May 7, 2024 • 36 mins
We want to hear from you! Send us a question or comment.
This episode we embark on an invigorating discussion about the trials of technology, the liberation of releasing grudges, and the transformative power of gratitude. Our conversation with Adams Pritchard, one of the visionarys behind Impact Recovery, takes center stage as we explore his remarkable journey from the depths of addiction to the creation of a haven for healing. Adams's story is a beacon of hope, illuminating the importance of personalized care in addiction recovery and the profound impact of family involvement.
This episode offers an unvarnished look at the gritty reality of addiction and the often-overlooked struggle with untreated alcoholism and drug addiction. We hear a powerful account from a former mortgage loan originator whose life was upended by addiction, only to find redemption through a commitment to recovery. Together, we dissect the unique approach of Impact Recovery, where the steadfast principles of the 12 steps meet deep clinical work, and the game-changing Impactful Families program aligns loved ones with the recovery journey.
Their innovative work in Birmingham and Atlanta sets a new precedent in addiction treatment, focusing on individualized care and community-driven support. The positive response to their clinical services marks a departure from traditional methods, underscoring the importance of authenticity in the healing process. Join us as we revel in the gratitude of our guest's contributions and the unwavering support of our listeners, encouraging everyone to remain connected and empowered on their own paths to recovery.
Join us Every Sunday at 8:00 PM PST and Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday Night at 8:00 PM EST/5:00PST for a FREE family support group. Register at the following link to get the zoom information sent to you: Family Support Meeting
About our sponsor(s):
Intervention on Call is on online platform that allows families and support systems to get immediate coaching and direction from a professional interventionist. While a professional intervention can be a powerful experience for change, not every family needs a professionally led intervention. For families who either don't need or can't afford a professional intervention, we can help. Hour sessions are $150.
Therapy is a very important way to take care of your mental health. This can happen from the comfort of your own home or office. If you need therapy and want to get a discount on your first month of services please try Better Help.
If you want to know more about the host's private practice please visit:
Matt Brown: Freedom Interventions
Follow the host on TikTok
Matt: @mattbrowninterventionist
If you have a question that we can answer on the show, please email us at matt@partywreckers.com
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you don't mind, I will begin at the beginning.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Life too short, man.
You don't want to hold nogrudge.
Man, I thought maybe you'regoing to let little bygones be
bygones.
Man, I couldn't believe thatson of a bitch had the balls to
say that.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Who are you?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm Jordan Rivers, and these here are the Soggy
Bottom Boys out of Cottonelia.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Mississippi.
We hear that you pay good moneyto sing into a can.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Welcome to the Party Wreckers podcast, hosted by
professional interventionistsMatt Brown and Sam Davis.
This is a podcast for familiesor individuals with loved ones
who are struggling withaddiction or alcoholism and are
reluctant to get the help thatthey need.
We hope to educate andentertain you while removing the
(00:52):
fear from the conversation.
Stay with us and we'll get youthrough it, please welcome the
party wreckers, matt Brown andSam Davis.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Welcome back everyone .
Welcome back, sam, and I are soglad you've joined us.
Sam, how are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Man, I'm pretty good in spite of myself, just went
down and embraced the racket andthe scam of buying a new cell
phone, which is always pleasant,but you know, still got some
gratitude, that on a Monday.
I mean here it is on a Mondayand this old crackhead has
enough, you know ability to godown there and do that.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
So I got to look at the gratitude and everything.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
It's so funny.
We were talking about this alittle bit before we started
recording, but just about howthere's a racket about iPhones.
How often are you switchingyour iPhone out?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Every couple of years , and it's usually always the
charging port.
Charging port, get the walletout and and then I'm wasting,
you know, 10-15 minutes a nightstanding there in my underwear
by my bed trying to get my phoneto charge for the evening, you
know have you gotten the new oneyet?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
did you get the new one today, the 15?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
just ordered it.
I'm out and you know the boonie, so they had to order it.
It'll be here probablywednesday or th, but the one
terabyte of, because all thevideo content I do and all of
that I got to have it.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Well, they switched the charger on this new one.
I don't know if you know that,but it's a USB-C charger now, so
it's universal across prettymuch everything.
Apple doesn't have aproprietary charger anymore.
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
All right.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Hopefully that'll solve our problems.
Okay, all right, but let's getback, sam.
There was a couple of thingsfrom the last episode that I
wanted to make sure that I hiton.
The first one was you went andlistened to Brene Brown speak,
and this was your first timegetting a chance to listen to
her.
I don't think you've read anyof her books yet, have you?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
an article here or there, but I haven't read a
single solitary entire book ofhers, but I'll tell you what I'm
gonna, because it was awonderful event.
Yeah, it was very inspiring,all truth.
You could just see the sunlightof the spirit kind of circling
around that woman man.
She's helped a lot of peopleand she's had quite a journey.
So it was good to be down inHouston, texas, and look,
houston, not just Houston, butjust Texas in general.
(03:27):
Man, there you go to anetworking event or something
that they put on in the state ofTexas.
I mean, it blows anything we'redoing here in Virginia away.
I mean seriously, they go allout with the, with the people
that you know are attending andyou know it's quite a thing the
people that you know areattending and you know it's
(03:48):
quite a thing.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Well, I think Texas has a pretty good hub of
recovery, and we'll talk abouttheir neighbors over in Alabama
here in just a minute.
But yeah, it's, texas is ahotspot for good recovery, I
think.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I think so.
You know, that was where I wasreborn, that's for sure.
Well, speaking of Alabama, whydon't you introduce our guest
Sam?
I know you were just out therevisiting him and his program.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, man, there's this guy that we all know, Jaime
, who's been around quite awhile, and he reached out to me
because I, like you, know goodtreatment, good quality
treatment.
I like the small mom and popwhere the owner puts their blood
, sweat and tears into thisthing.
(04:32):
You know it's going to begenuine, you know their heart's
in it, where the owner knowseach patient.
That's good care to me.
And look, they're providingquality care.
And he said look, man, you needto come down here to Birmingham,
Alabama, and check out out Adam, Adam Pritchard, Adams
Pritchard's, Adams, AdamsPritchard's place.
(04:55):
Don't worry, Sam, I'll editthat out.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I'll edit that out, don't worry.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
He's not, he's not going to edit it out, but it's.
But uh, that's a tough one tosay, man.
He said, man, you got to comedown here and see it.
He said, man, they're doingsome really cool stuff down here
and it's right up your alleywith what you like and so, man,
you know.
Birmingham.
I got to be honest, the lasttime I was in Birmingham before,
just the other day, you know Iwas smoking crack.
(05:20):
You know I'd gone through on myway to working offshore and you
know, stopped at the gasstation there in Birmingham and
you know there was one of thosefellas with the you know big
rims and the tinted windows andthe boom, boom, boom speakers
and he was getting gas and I wasgetting gas and he nodded at me
and I nodded at him and thenext thing, you know, I was down
(05:41):
in the hood of Birminghamsmoking crack.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
It was just the unspoken language of a drug deal
.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Sure was man.
I mean, like I didn't evenfinish filling up my truck
before it was the deal was made,you know.
And so you know that was acompletely different experience
than what I had this time.
But I went down to Birminghamjust last week, you know, this
time, and saw Impact Recoveryand it's owned by Adams
Pritchard, and I said, man, wegot to get you on.
(06:09):
People need to hear about whatyou're doing and your heart
behind this thing, because hisheart's in it, like his heart is
110 percent in it, and we needmore folks like him out here.
And he's got a cool story too.
So we're not going to make thisall about, you know.
You know endorsing treatment,or we're not going to do all of
(06:29):
that.
We're going to talk about theprogram, but we want to keep it
interesting and hear aboutwhat's behind the program,
what's behind Mr Adams, you know.
So welcome everybody to AdamsPritchett.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Thanks Sam, thanks Matt.
I've never done this before.
It's a new, eye-openingexperience.
And thanks for everything yousaid, Sam.
I enjoy getting connected topeople like y'all that have the
same beliefs and are on the samepath, and I guess I can kind of
(07:01):
tell you a little bit about mypath and how God set the ball
rolling for all this to happen.
I really don't believe thisplace is mine.
I think that God wanted thisplace here and he picked some
dipshits to set it up for them.
He picked Chad and I and Sarahto get that ball rolling.
Anyway, I'm from Birmingham.
(07:22):
I lived all over, but I'm fromhere and I went to.
I was a you know, a hardcorealcoholic and drug addict.
I went to treatment 17different treatment centers,
eight different states, andthere were a lot of other
detoxes and sober livings alongthe way.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
What happened?
What changed?
What like?
What was your experience likegoing to all these treatment
centers?
Like what would happen when yougot out?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, I would go to these, you know, and I'm not,
I'm not knocking them, but likethe, the highest in you know
best, I would believe, like thedrugs and alcohol are the
problem, if I can, just if I canjust get off the sauce, I can
go.
(08:08):
I can go back and kick some ass, and every time I would,
especially towards the end, Iwould believe that every time I
go in there, and you know, theyreally would just take away my
anesthetic to life, um, and I'dgo back out into the world
without a true solution and Iwould continue to fall on my
face.
And I was even doing aftercarestuff.
(08:29):
I was going to sober livingsand IOPs and I was getting
sponsors and I was going to abunch of meetings and really
just what I experienced wasmainstream treatment in middle
of the road fellowships.
I came to find that out later.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Let me ask you, adams , from the, how old were you
when you went to your firsttreatment center and and the set
you know, the 17th time laterwhen you finally I assume that
you stayed sober after that 17thtime?
How, how much time lapsed inbetween those two events, the
first time you went to treatmentand then the 17th time?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So it was about seven years, um going in and out of
them.
Um, I had my first drugoverdose, and I was 17 years old
and had some like not notinpatient interventions
implemented at that time, butthen I uh, you know, I made it.
I made it.
I graduated from college, uh,somehow started a career, um,
(09:23):
where I was making enough money,where people left me alone
before I really kind of startedgoing back back down the road
the in and out road, you know,but you know.
So, eventually, what happenedwas I was, I guess, um, I kind
of tell you two stories, okay,because I think this one kind of
(09:46):
describes, like sets up for,what ended up happening.
So I had never sought outtreatment on my own Every time.
It was more like you're pushedto go, and it was great stuff.
One time, though, I was livingand working in Birmingham and I
was doing I was actually apretty good mortgage loan
(10:06):
originator and, kind of, like Isaid before, the heat was off my
back because I was makingenough money.
I was not doing well, but Iwasn't asking anybody for shit,
and they're like let's see if hecould figure it out, this will
work.
So this one day I was drivingin to my office over in the
South side of downtownBirmingham and I'm coming up
over the top of the mountain.
(10:27):
It's this beautiful morning,the sun was coming up and I had
this wave of emotions hit methat I had never experienced
before in my life.
I pulled over on the side ofthe road and I started bawling,
crying, and I had thisrealization for the first time
that I could not live withalcohol and drugs, but I also
couldn't live without them.
And, um, I was like you know, Iwas thinking of all these people
(10:49):
that I was close to in life andtheir trajectories were
starting to look a lot differentthan mine and I was just kind
of falling off a cliff.
And so, you know, I had.
I was like but man, I've triedthat treatment shit, I've tried
the recovery stuff.
I've, I've been into the roomsand like that shit just did not
work.
Like what the fuck is?
What's wrong with me?
I don't know if I can say thaton here, you can say whatever
you like man.
Okay.
(11:10):
So you know, I was like I'mgoing to go.
I went.
I mean, like this was soforeign.
I went in to my office, I gotplugged up with the HR people
and I asked for for a leave ofabsence.
I'd never done that before.
I was like I got some mentalhealth stuff.
Man, I got to go take care ofthis.
(11:30):
And they gave me some time.
I went up somewhere to thisreally high-end bougie
mind-body-spirit place.
I'm not going to say where Idon't want to, they're good
people, it's just not, you knowanyways.
So I went up there, I did that,got separated.
After about 17 days they got meoff the alcohol, the benzos, the
cocaine and the heroin.
And after about 17 days,physically I started feeling
(11:53):
better.
I started sleeping, I startedeating, I started exercising, I
started hitting on girls and Iwas like my body's coming back.
But I couldn't figure out why Ichose to go that time, wanted
to get better.
But all I could think about wasgoing back to Birmingham and
getting a fix.
Like that is all I could thinkabout.
And I was like man, what?
(12:13):
Where's the magic?
You know what I mean?
Like something's not right.
So I listened to every singlething they told me to do when I
left.
I came back to Birmingham, Iwent to a sober living, I got a
sponsor and I enrolled in thisIOP and it's just all the
(12:34):
mainstream stuff that's outthere.
And in treatment and in thefellowships that I was
experiencing, nobody showed mewhat really what alcoholism and
drug addiction is, what wasgoing on with me and how to
recover.
And so I was really confusedbecause I was really really
trying, like really trying thattime, and it wasn't clicking.
And the day came where it wastime for me to go back to work.
(12:55):
And I'll never forget I feltworse that morning driving back
into the office than I did alittle less than two months ago
when I had my little meltdown.
That was the catalyst for thisattempt, and all I was
experiencing was untreatedalcoholism, untreated drug
(13:16):
addiction.
I didn't know what that was andI remember it was like I'm
going through the door and I wasso full of fear I was such an
emotional train wreck I couldnot even I was having a hard
time holding it together to runin to my cubicle to go sit down.
I had this whole team of peoplecovering my origination pipeline
while I was gone.
All I had to do in theory tokeep the money coming in was
(13:41):
reach back out, make contactwith all these people, and I get
the.
You know, I get the originationcredit but like I was so in it,
I couldn't send an email.
I couldn't pick up the phoneand call anybody.
I couldn't send a text message.
I didn't even want to get outof my cubicle and go go take a
piss because I was like I cannotsee or talk to anyone in this
office.
You know what I mean, and sothat was.
(14:01):
You know.
Come to find out now.
I was in untreated alcoholism.
I had no power.
I was plugged up to no powerand I couldn't do that.
So I called my drug dealer, hadhim meet me across the street
at the gas station and while I'mwaiting on him I'm in a suit
chugging a tall boy behind adumpster and then I go get the
drop, go in through the backdoor, snort a couple different
(14:21):
colors of lines of powder, and Iwent and sit back down at my
desk and, like in Bill's story,he's talking about something
similar to this on page four, inthe first full paragraph, when
he's talking about October 1929,when hell broke loose in New
York stock exchange and he waskind of in a dry state but he
had some booze in his office andhe drank it and like, while
(14:42):
people are jumping out of thewindow, he's like man, that old
fierce determination when cameback I'm good, I'm gonna go make
, I'm gonna go do some shit,make some money, I'm gonna be
all right.
And like that old fiercedetermination to win came back.
Second, I walked out of thatbathroom after doing all that
stuff.
You know I sat back down in my.
You know, matt, sam, how's life, you know how are the kids Like
, you know, I've got to haveLyme disease.
(15:09):
It was awful, but like, I'mback, let's go make some money.
You know, so good to see y'allLike and so I was I was fixed in
that moment and um, Well, letme, let me jump in here real
quick.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Adams, listening to this, that are going to be able
to see a lot of similaritiesbetween what you're describing
and what's going on in theirloved one.
There's I'm sure there'sfamilies that are going to
listen to this that have hadtheir loved one in multiple
programs.
And when you say I just got outof treatment and I'm driving
back and I'm suffering fromuntreated alcoholism, what does
that mean?
So families understand that,like you just finished treatment
(15:43):
, how do you have untreatedalcoholism?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
So, you know, I, I, the drugs and alcohol were out
of my system, right.
So I have no sauce in my system, but I also hadn't yet been
through a process to recover.
So, you know, in that that'sthe most dangerous place for me
to be, because I'm, you know,I'm having problems on personal
relationships.
I can't control my emotionalnature.
(16:06):
I'm afraid of misogynistoppression, I'm full of fucking
fear.
I feel kind of useless.
I'm just super restless,irritable, discontent, just like
.
I can't do that Because in thatstate drugs and alcohol aren't
the problem, they're thesolution, right.
So when I go back to them, thatfirst time it fixes it.
But then, of course, becausethis thing's progressive, like
(16:30):
that, relief didn't last verylong and the wheels fell off the
train pretty quick, and youknow, and it kept rolling until
it didn't.
And then I, I was intervened on, you know, and I ended up
bouncing.
I went to a couple of places inthe bank I was working for.
They were like, hey, look,we're opening up a branch out in
Texas and we think it'd begreat for you to go out there
and like restart your, your lifeand your career.
(16:50):
And I was like man, sign me up.
Um, I was down in Florida.
At that time I was like I'mtelling me when to go, I'll be
there, um, so I was.
I was still on an FMLA leave,like still doing all the
treatment stuff.
I ended up out there.
I even went to a sober livingand stuff, but like I wasn't
doing shit, nobody was showingme what to do.
Um, and once again I'm doingstuff I think is going to fix
(17:11):
this thing and I, uh, I startedback working and I held it
together out there for, uh, foralmost a year.
Um, and it was real dark, realfast got intervened on again and
I ended up going to a differentstyle of treatment than I had
ever been to.
Unfortunately, that place isnot really.
(17:33):
It's not really there anymore,but it was where, you know, I
was able to get separated fromthe drugs and alcohol.
And then you know, work, theauthentic 12 steps, which to me
was I had never been presentedwith that and you know, keep in
mind I had had 11 differentsponsors at that point and I'd
(17:53):
probably been to 500 AA meetingsand so I was able to to start
that work, did not get that farinto it, but got enough of a
taste while doing, you know,some clinical stuff to where it.
It fired me up and um and Isought that out, you know hard
um leaving and it changed mylife and um, as I.
(18:15):
That was in 2015.
From from then on, I stayedreally close to um a few people.
One, you know who, who saved mylife is you know it's life is
my partner, chad Lynch.
He was one of the main guysrunning that place at that time.
As I was out there, I went back, I did some mortgage stuff.
(18:36):
I stopped.
I drove Jimmy John's deliveredUber for a little while, just
trying and sponsoring a ton ofpeople doing this stuff.
God showed me what to do.
I worked in treatment for alittle while and ended up coming
back to Birmingham and threw ina men's.
I made you know this.
This opportunity was kind ofthere.
You know, enough people sawthis and they were like you
(18:58):
should, you should opensomething up here.
And I'd always kind of had thatin mind and I had always kind
of been talking to Chad aboutlike hey, you know, and I had
always kind of been talking toChad about like hey, you know,
this stuff, that stuff out therein Texas is great, but it has
changed a lot since then it'sstill, if we're going to send
people places besides us, wesend them out there.
But you know it's not the sameas it was back then.
(19:19):
So we were kind of like, youknow, racking our head how can
we do something and keep it pure, keep it small, keep the magic
going and do it a little bitdifferent?
And that's what ended uphappening.
Chad said you open it, I'll come, and he did, and we partnered
up and you know, we opened thisplace where you know we've
(19:43):
cleaned up enough of the BS thatI've described to, where we've
got this magic little bubble,that when these guys can come in
here and they can, they canwork all 12 steps, you know,
this old school, authentic,uncut way and start to have an
experience and have enough of ashift to wake up to be able to
(20:04):
really do some, some deep,individualized clinical work.
And doing those two things inconjunction, you know, really is
just super effective.
And the third thing that we'vereally kind of come a long way
with in the last year is we'veset up this program called
Impactful Families so that thefamilies can work out on 12
(20:28):
steps, get a bunch of coachingand some stuff with each
client's therapist andspecialist, bunch of coaching
and some stuff with um, witheach client's therapist and
specialist, so they can get, geton the same path and get on the
same same plane as their lovedone, so that when they you know,
when they leave, like the wholeunit, they're ready to go plug
and play and do this instead offigure it all out Um, and you
know it's just um, I can't, I've, I've never seen or experienced
(20:53):
anything like what's going onup there right now.
You know, uh, 90% of ourclients have been to other
treatments before.
They've, you know, they've,they've been exposed to some
recovery stuff before.
And they come in here and, um,you know, their mind is blown.
They get excited about thisstuff, they start to get some
relief, they get fired up andthey, they walk out, they walk
(21:15):
out the door to go recreatetheir lives and they realize
this is not a struggle.
You're not always going to berecovering and I think it's a
gift to have this gene to be analcoholic or a drug addict, and
most of them get to experiencethat calling too.
I think that we were wired toneed power and once we plug up
(21:35):
into it, there's just somereally cool shit for us to go do
, cause I just I don't thinkmany of us should still be
breathing.
You know, I really think andthis is the way we all do over
here Is it like?
This is kind of like the bonusround, you know, and if we're
we're really in that bonus round, living on borrowed time, it's
(21:56):
because there's something for usall to go do, some kind of
purpose.
And if we can do this work andget plugged up with that, go out
there and do it, you just youlose fear of everything and
things change, and so you know,that's just kind of like that's
what's going on in theresidential phase.
But you know, it's just it'sour whole intent when we opened
impact was to impact treatmentand impact the fellowships at
the same time, and I would say,like that's happening, but also
(22:20):
the impact on the families isreally starting to, you know,
have a have a pretty strongripple effect so that more
people out there understand what, what this is, what the
solution is, and then all the,all the problems that are out
there right now.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
It's not really rocket science, is it?
It's really no rocket scienceis it.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I mean, they were doing this shit a hundred years
ago and it worked.
And then people, all we foundout all this new shit, we're
gonna do all this other stuffand fuck it all up, you know.
And now everybody hates eachother and they all want to argue
and like, dude, we just we'renot trying to make enemies, we
just we're glad, we're gladthere's all kinds of stuff out
there, but we just want to wantto help people and and and do
(23:08):
some have fun at the same time.
And I don't know anybody on ourteam that doesn't like, for the
95% time is waking up, likeexcited to go up there, cause
there's just an energy.
It's palpable, you know, youcan feel it and it's it's fun,
you know.
I think we're all doing whatwe're supposed to be doing and
it's it's starting to transformand and we're, we're, we're
(23:29):
growing a little, a little bitin some other ways.
We're not like adding a ton ofbeds, we're just we've opened a
transition phase in Birmingham,we're opening up a little
transition in Atlanta and we'rejust going to have these small
little pockets of enthusiasm andwhere they're supposed to be,
they'll end up and, um, you know, uh, it's just, that's kind of
I guess how many men can you,can you take care of at a time?
(23:52):
So we can take 14 in ourresidential phase and right now
we have 12 in the transitionphase in Birmingham, but we're
about to add another 12 to thatin Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
And it is men only right.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Right yeah, men only Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Go ahead, Tim.
Sorry Matt, no, you're good.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I didn't mean to jump in there, but I'll tell you
what you, I'll tell you what.
Sorry Matt, I didn't mean toeverybody go to this group today
and everybody do this you know,it's truly.
I don't know if I've everexperienced truly individualized
care, truly, and that is.
It was like it was 14, well, Ithink it was.
(24:47):
Was it 14 guys in there thatday?
I came?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
14.
And so there were the group yousat in on.
Because that was a fun day forme, I got to go sit in one of
Chad's groups I'm usuallyrunning one but uh, so there
were four guys on step four, butthat guy that the group we were
sitting in on, he was on thesex inventory.
The other guys were on just thethird column of the um, of the
regular traditional inventory.
(25:09):
So there were two split groupsin the fourth step.
But that's just kind of how weoperate, like, even in the same
step you can have multiple,multiple groups, um, and it's,
it's fun, man and our, we likeit, they like it, um, it's not
monotonous.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Now you're gonna get some old crusty folks who heard
this and hear you talking aboutyou know, know, step work group
and things like that.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Oh he's selling AA.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
He's selling 12 steps , but it's not.
It's really not.
You got clinicians there andthey're all working together.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I mean we just, if there weren't so many problems
out there in AA, you know, likemaybe something like this
wouldn't, wouldn't have the samething.
But, um, you know, we're not,we're not affiliated with any 12
step fellowship.
We're just using the, the oldschool, you know original
process with the treatment stuff, with with the individualized
(26:04):
clinical care and with thefamily component, and putting it
all in there together.
Um, you know, I really kind oflook at it back, like, you know,
back and it's all over thedoctor's opinion, like when
these, when these guys saw thatlike they could get people
separated, right, but, and thenthey could do all they wanted
with the psychiatric andclinical stuff, but they were
still having these issues untilthey saw that 12 step movement
(26:28):
get born in front of their eyesand then they kind of, you know,
pieced, itced it all together.
We just, instead of having todo it all out there in the free
world, we just, uh, sorry, we uh, instead of doing it out there
piecemeal in the free world, wejust put together this bubble
where it's all there, you know,all inclusive, um, and you can
(26:48):
do it with the, with the noisesilenced, and have have an
experience due to heavy liftingin there and then walk out and
plug and play.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Well, and so many families that I know.
Sam, you probably have thisexperience too, and, and Adams,
I'm guessing you hear this, ifyou are talking to families on
the front end, like they're sofocused on, well, how often are
they going to have individualtherapy?
How often do they get to see atherapist?
And and I think that's missingthe mark by by so much,
especially on the individualfront how often are they seeing
(27:19):
a therapist with you guys?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
So at least twice a week, but, but some of them more
than that.
And then the families are areseeing them too.
But, like I was telling Samthis, I don't remember how it
came up, but I get to speak alot of places and I love it.
And I was doing a talk at thistreatment center and it's a good
(27:43):
treatment center.
I like the people there, theydo good work.
And while I was waiting for thegroup to start, there were a
couple of guys that were early,which was a shocker to me.
But anyways, there was a newguy there and he said hey,
what's the difference between atech and a therapist?
And he said the tech is the guythat shows you where to go to
(28:04):
group and the therapist is theone that you meet once a week
and go over your treatment plan.
And I was just like my God.
So the difference with whatwe're doing because we're not
taking insurance is all thatclinical work is like what,
what's going on with you?
You know it's not.
They're not doing all thatstuff that they have to do.
You know like true, true, justclinical places which I'm not
(28:32):
knocking, I know there's a lotof good ones and they say like
I've gotten better clinical workhere than anywhere else I've
been before.
It's just different.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
You know Matt and I, you know we don't take insurance
, we don't work with insurance.
But you know he and I weredoing some work at a program
around their programming andtraining some people and it
really blew me away that all ofthe documentation and the time
(29:02):
wasted that is required byinsurance companies in order for
the facility to get paid.
It's a huge waste of time ofall the documentation and the
note keeping.
It takes hours a day from theclinician of actually doing the
work and you know a lot ofpeople are and you hear this,
(29:23):
I'll say a lot of people youhear this quite a bit of.
You know typical 30 daytreatment insurance driven
program is garbage.
I mean really, you hear thatright, I mean that's and for the
most part it's true.
Yeah, it is.
It's true.
It's insurance driven right, soinsurance is dictating what
they do and what they can't do.
And I don't care what the owneris, the owner could go in there
(29:45):
with all the best intentions inthe world, but you're going to
do what that insurance companytells you to do in order for you
to get paid, in order for themto keep their doors open, and
you have chosen.
You said to hell with that.
You're a good lord, you're agood rebel man, you're like out
of hell with that.
I'm not doing that.
Everybody told us we were crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
But you know it, it worked and uh, it's working
really well.
But I don't know, and I'm sureI'm sure that there was chatter.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I'm sure before you opened the doors you heard a lot
of chatter.
And I'm sure that there waschatter.
I'm sure before you opened thedoors you heard a lot of chatter
.
And I'm sure that you did nothear a lot of chatter.
That was actually going onright before you opened the
doors, of people saying, well,that's never going to work,
that's not going to work,they're not going to stay open,
they're not going to stay open.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
It's just noise and what we really try to work like.
If you just don't identify withthe noise, you can continue to
get carried with whatever it iswe're supposed to do and then
identify with the noise.
It's just a waste of time andenergy and you know everybody
falls in that every once in awhile, but just not enough time
for that.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
There you go, there you go.
Background noise.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yeah, yeah, it can be with what you guys are doing
with family, cause I don't wantto neglect that, I want to.
I want to get into that alittle bit before we wrap up
with what you're doing withfamilies when you're so you're
taking them through the Al-Anonstep work.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Right.
So we have, we have threemasters level therapists that
are actually all in Al-Anon, andso we kept brainstorming this
way because I mean, y'all knowthis too just how there's
problems in our fellowships,there's a lot of problems in
Al-Anon.
A lot of people you go in thereall they do is talk about their
qualifier.
There's nobody in there workingthe steps, and so we kept
(31:29):
sending people to all theseAl-Anon groups and they're like
I feel, worse, not better.
So we set up this little dealwe have five Al-Anon groups at a
time, like five Al-Anon groupsa week.
There's four for the familiesthat have loved ones in there
and one for alumni, and they getto work the Al-Anon 12 steps.
(31:52):
In these small groups we haveone of our.
For most of them, one of ourstaff member gets on there and
breaks down the step from ourside for a second, and then you
know our, uh, our three magicalwomen do their thing, and then
you know it rolls and they use,um, they use, uh, some good
Al-Anon workbooks along withthat and they, they do the stuff
(32:16):
, um and uh.
You know, it's just.
I I didn't think it waspossible and it was a lot when
we were kind of tweaking it out,but for really, since about
September, october of 2023, itkind of clicked and now you know
they've got a system and itworks.
So the families do that.
(32:37):
And then they have a weeklylike kind of it's more of a
coaching call with each client'srecovery specialist, where
they're really giving them, youknow, coaching, guidance and
insight into all this stuffwhich they're doing so that they
get it more too.
And then the third thing iseach, each client's therapist
(32:59):
kind of like, with the weeklyupdate calls or whatever you
want to call them, they're kindof more given like homework for
the families to start doing soafter their loved one does their
fifth step.
They can do either, you know,an in-person or virtual family
session.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Um, you, know you said that about the al-anon.
Um, and nothing against that.
Look, my mama went to al-anonand you know I'm here today.
My mama went to Al-Anon, andyou know I'm here today, because
it drove her to get some morework done.
And then, you know, my days ofaddiction were numbered when she
entered the doors of that.
But I did an interventionyesterday and the family was
sitting around afterwards andshe's like you know, I really
(33:40):
want some more support formyself.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
She's I really don't know.
She said I went to.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Al-Anon.
She said, but it just seemedreally I was very confused.
She said I was very confused,it didn't, I didn't hear
anything about a solution.
I didn't.
It was just.
It was really.
It felt really off.
She said and then I went toy'all's, which was IOC's family
support group, on Thursday night.
She said my daughter and I wentto that and she said it was
(34:05):
totally different.
And I'm like, yeah, I meanbecause we're going to keep it
in the solution, like you don'tneed a group to sit around and
talk about the problem.
You know I can go down to thedonut shop down here and talk
about the problem.
You know I can do that any timeof day.
But this was is about solution,that I can do that any time of
day, but this is about solution.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
It sounds like that's what y'all got going on with
that.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
What do you do, Adams ?
What do you do if a familyisn't willing to engage in their
own recovery while their lovedone's with you?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
It happens.
It happens about 10% of thetime, about 10% of the time, and
so we try to do more with themin those calls than we would
somebody else.
And you know, thank God that.
(34:56):
You know we can get wellregardless of another person.
And that's just some people'sjourney, you know, thank God,
because those people can, canhelp the ones that that, um, you
know are similar to them.
They would have a differentexperience than somebody's
family being all in.
I mean, I, I have two parents,you know, thank God.
(35:17):
They're amazing, Um, but likemy mom does this stuff, my dad
doesn't, doesn't matter.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
It's just how it is Well.
Adams Pritchard, thank you somuch for being our guest today.
For those of you that areinterested in finding out more
about Adams's program, can yougive us your website?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, it's impactrecoverycenternet.
If you just Google us and it'llpop up.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
I'll put it in the show notes as well.
If families want to go there,there'll be a link that they can
click on through and reach outto you guys if they feel like
you're the right spot for theirloved one.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Thank you all for having me.
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
You bet.
Thanks for being here.
We'll see you again soon.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah, thanks for being on here, man Love.
Yeah, thanks for being on here,man love seeing you again.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Y'all have a good one .
Thanks again for listening tothe Party Wreckers.
If you liked what you heard,please leave us a rating and a
review.
This helps us get the word outto more people, to learn more or
to ask us a question we cananswer in a future episode.
Please visit us atPartyWreckerscom and remember
(36:29):
don't enable addiction ever.
On behalf of the Party Wreckers, matt Brown and Sam Davis.
Let's talk again soon.
If you don't mind, I will begin at the beginning.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Life too short, man.
You don't want to hold nogrudge.
Man, I thought maybe you'regoing to let little bygones be
bygones.
Man, I couldn't believe thatson of a bitch had the balls to
say that.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Who are you?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm Jordan Rivers, and these here are the Soggy
Bottom Boys out of Cottonelia.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Mississippi.
We hear that you pay good moneyto sing into a can.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Welcome to the Party Wreckers podcast, hosted by
professional interventionistsMatt Brown and Sam Davis.
This is a podcast for familiesor individuals with loved ones
who are struggling withaddiction or alcoholism and are
reluctant to get the help thatthey need.
We hope to educate andentertain you while removing the
(00:52):
fear from the conversation.
Stay with us and we'll get youthrough it, please welcome the
party wreckers, matt Brown andSam Davis.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Welcome back everyone .
Welcome back, sam, and I are soglad you've joined us.
Sam, how are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Man, I'm pretty good in spite of myself, just went
down and embraced the racket andthe scam of buying a new cell
phone, which is always pleasant,but you know, still got some
gratitude, that on a Monday.
I mean here it is on a Mondayand this old crackhead has
enough, you know ability to godown there and do that.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
So I got to look at the gratitude and everything.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
It's so funny.
We were talking about this alittle bit before we started
recording, but just about howthere's a racket about iPhones.
How often are you switchingyour iPhone out?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Every couple of years , and it's usually always the
charging port.
Charging port, get the walletout and and then I'm wasting,
you know, 10-15 minutes a nightstanding there in my underwear
by my bed trying to get my phoneto charge for the evening, you
know have you gotten the new oneyet?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
did you get the new one today, the 15?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
just ordered it.
I'm out and you know the boonie, so they had to order it.
It'll be here probablywednesday or th, but the one
terabyte of, because all thevideo content I do and all of
that I got to have it.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Well, they switched the charger on this new one.
I don't know if you know that,but it's a USB-C charger now, so
it's universal across prettymuch everything.
Apple doesn't have aproprietary charger anymore.
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
All right.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Hopefully that'll solve our problems.
Okay, all right, but let's getback, sam.
There was a couple of thingsfrom the last episode that I
wanted to make sure that I hiton.
The first one was you went andlistened to Brene Brown speak,
and this was your first timegetting a chance to listen to
her.
I don't think you've read anyof her books yet, have you?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
an article here or there, but I haven't read a
single solitary entire book ofhers, but I'll tell you what I'm
gonna, because it was awonderful event.
Yeah, it was very inspiring,all truth.
You could just see the sunlightof the spirit kind of circling
around that woman man.
She's helped a lot of peopleand she's had quite a journey.
So it was good to be down inHouston, texas, and look,
houston, not just Houston, butjust Texas in general.
(03:27):
Man, there you go to anetworking event or something
that they put on in the state ofTexas.
I mean, it blows anything we'redoing here in Virginia away.
I mean seriously, they go allout with the, with the people
that you know are attending andyou know it's quite a thing the
people that you know areattending and you know it's
(03:48):
quite a thing.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Well, I think Texas has a pretty good hub of
recovery, and we'll talk abouttheir neighbors over in Alabama
here in just a minute.
But yeah, it's, texas is ahotspot for good recovery, I
think.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I think so.
You know, that was where I wasreborn, that's for sure.
Well, speaking of Alabama, whydon't you introduce our guest
Sam?
I know you were just out therevisiting him and his program.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, man, there's this guy that we all know, Jaime
, who's been around quite awhile, and he reached out to me
because I, like you, know goodtreatment, good quality
treatment.
I like the small mom and popwhere the owner puts their blood
, sweat and tears into thisthing.
(04:32):
You know it's going to begenuine, you know their heart's
in it, where the owner knowseach patient.
That's good care to me.
And look, they're providingquality care.
And he said look, man, you needto come down here to Birmingham,
Alabama, and check out out Adam, Adam Pritchard, Adams
Pritchard's, Adams, AdamsPritchard's place.
(04:55):
Don't worry, Sam, I'll editthat out.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I'll edit that out, don't worry.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
He's not, he's not going to edit it out, but it's.
But uh, that's a tough one tosay, man.
He said, man, you got to comedown here and see it.
He said, man, they're doingsome really cool stuff down here
and it's right up your alleywith what you like and so, man,
you know.
Birmingham.
I got to be honest, the lasttime I was in Birmingham before,
just the other day, you know Iwas smoking crack.
(05:20):
You know I'd gone through on myway to working offshore and you
know, stopped at the gasstation there in Birmingham and
you know there was one of thosefellas with the you know big
rims and the tinted windows andthe boom, boom, boom speakers
and he was getting gas and I wasgetting gas and he nodded at me
and I nodded at him and thenext thing, you know, I was down
(05:41):
in the hood of Birminghamsmoking crack.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
It was just the unspoken language of a drug deal
.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Sure was man.
I mean, like I didn't evenfinish filling up my truck
before it was the deal was made,you know.
And so you know that was acompletely different experience
than what I had this time.
But I went down to Birminghamjust last week, you know, this
time, and saw Impact Recoveryand it's owned by Adams
Pritchard, and I said, man, wegot to get you on.
(06:09):
People need to hear about whatyou're doing and your heart
behind this thing, because hisheart's in it, like his heart is
110 percent in it, and we needmore folks like him out here.
And he's got a cool story too.
So we're not going to make thisall about, you know.
You know endorsing treatment,or we're not going to do all of
(06:29):
that.
We're going to talk about theprogram, but we want to keep it
interesting and hear aboutwhat's behind the program,
what's behind Mr Adams, you know.
So welcome everybody to AdamsPritchett.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Thanks Sam, thanks Matt.
I've never done this before.
It's a new, eye-openingexperience.
And thanks for everything yousaid, Sam.
I enjoy getting connected topeople like y'all that have the
same beliefs and are on the samepath, and I guess I can kind of
(07:01):
tell you a little bit about mypath and how God set the ball
rolling for all this to happen.
I really don't believe thisplace is mine.
I think that God wanted thisplace here and he picked some
dipshits to set it up for them.
He picked Chad and I and Sarahto get that ball rolling.
Anyway, I'm from Birmingham.
(07:22):
I lived all over, but I'm fromhere and I went to.
I was a you know, a hardcorealcoholic and drug addict.
I went to treatment 17different treatment centers,
eight different states, andthere were a lot of other
detoxes and sober livings alongthe way.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
What happened?
What changed?
What like?
What was your experience likegoing to all these treatment
centers?
Like what would happen when yougot out?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, I would go to these, you know, and I'm not,
I'm not knocking them, but likethe, the highest in you know
best, I would believe, like thedrugs and alcohol are the
problem, if I can, just if I canjust get off the sauce, I can
go.
(08:08):
I can go back and kick some ass, and every time I would,
especially towards the end, Iwould believe that every time I
go in there, and you know, theyreally would just take away my
anesthetic to life, um, and I'dgo back out into the world
without a true solution and Iwould continue to fall on my
face.
And I was even doing aftercarestuff.
(08:29):
I was going to sober livingsand IOPs and I was getting
sponsors and I was going to abunch of meetings and really
just what I experienced wasmainstream treatment in middle
of the road fellowships.
I came to find that out later.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Let me ask you, adams , from the, how old were you
when you went to your firsttreatment center and and the set
you know, the 17th time laterwhen you finally I assume that
you stayed sober after that 17thtime?
How, how much time lapsed inbetween those two events, the
first time you went to treatmentand then the 17th time?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So it was about seven years, um going in and out of
them.
Um, I had my first drugoverdose, and I was 17 years old
and had some like not notinpatient interventions
implemented at that time, butthen I uh, you know, I made it.
I made it.
I graduated from college, uh,somehow started a career, um,
(09:23):
where I was making enough money,where people left me alone
before I really kind of startedgoing back back down the road
the in and out road, you know,but you know.
So, eventually, what happenedwas I was, I guess, um, I kind
of tell you two stories, okay,because I think this one kind of
(09:46):
describes, like sets up for,what ended up happening.
So I had never sought outtreatment on my own Every time.
It was more like you're pushedto go, and it was great stuff.
One time, though, I was livingand working in Birmingham and I
was doing I was actually apretty good mortgage loan
(10:06):
originator and, kind of, like Isaid before, the heat was off my
back because I was makingenough money.
I was not doing well, but Iwasn't asking anybody for shit,
and they're like let's see if hecould figure it out, this will
work.
So this one day I was drivingin to my office over in the
South side of downtownBirmingham and I'm coming up
over the top of the mountain.
(10:27):
It's this beautiful morning,the sun was coming up and I had
this wave of emotions hit methat I had never experienced
before in my life.
I pulled over on the side ofthe road and I started bawling,
crying, and I had thisrealization for the first time
that I could not live withalcohol and drugs, but I also
couldn't live without them.
And, um, I was like you know, Iwas thinking of all these people
(10:49):
that I was close to in life andtheir trajectories were
starting to look a lot differentthan mine and I was just kind
of falling off a cliff.
And so, you know, I had.
I was like but man, I've triedthat treatment shit, I've tried
the recovery stuff.
I've, I've been into the roomsand like that shit just did not
work.
Like what the fuck is?
What's wrong with me?
I don't know if I can say thaton here, you can say whatever
you like man.
Okay.
(11:10):
So you know, I was like I'mgoing to go.
I went.
I mean, like this was soforeign.
I went in to my office, I gotplugged up with the HR people
and I asked for for a leave ofabsence.
I'd never done that before.
I was like I got some mentalhealth stuff.
Man, I got to go take care ofthis.
(11:30):
And they gave me some time.
I went up somewhere to thisreally high-end bougie
mind-body-spirit place.
I'm not going to say where Idon't want to, they're good
people, it's just not, you knowanyways.
So I went up there, I did that,got separated.
After about 17 days they got meoff the alcohol, the benzos, the
cocaine and the heroin.
And after about 17 days,physically I started feeling
(11:53):
better.
I started sleeping, I startedeating, I started exercising, I
started hitting on girls and Iwas like my body's coming back.
But I couldn't figure out why Ichose to go that time, wanted
to get better.
But all I could think about wasgoing back to Birmingham and
getting a fix.
Like that is all I could thinkabout.
And I was like man, what?
(12:13):
Where's the magic?
You know what I mean?
Like something's not right.
So I listened to every singlething they told me to do when I
left.
I came back to Birmingham, Iwent to a sober living, I got a
sponsor and I enrolled in thisIOP and it's just all the
(12:34):
mainstream stuff that's outthere.
And in treatment and in thefellowships that I was
experiencing, nobody showed mewhat really what alcoholism and
drug addiction is, what wasgoing on with me and how to
recover.
And so I was really confusedbecause I was really really
trying, like really trying thattime, and it wasn't clicking.
And the day came where it wastime for me to go back to work.
(12:55):
And I'll never forget I feltworse that morning driving back
into the office than I did alittle less than two months ago
when I had my little meltdown.
That was the catalyst for thisattempt, and all I was
experiencing was untreatedalcoholism, untreated drug
(13:16):
addiction.
I didn't know what that was andI remember it was like I'm
going through the door and I wasso full of fear I was such an
emotional train wreck I couldnot even I was having a hard
time holding it together to runin to my cubicle to go sit down.
I had this whole team of peoplecovering my origination pipeline
while I was gone.
All I had to do in theory tokeep the money coming in was
(13:41):
reach back out, make contactwith all these people, and I get
the.
You know, I get the originationcredit but like I was so in it,
I couldn't send an email.
I couldn't pick up the phoneand call anybody.
I couldn't send a text message.
I didn't even want to get outof my cubicle and go go take a
piss because I was like I cannotsee or talk to anyone in this
office.
You know what I mean, and sothat was.
(14:01):
You know.
Come to find out now.
I was in untreated alcoholism.
I had no power.
I was plugged up to no powerand I couldn't do that.
So I called my drug dealer, hadhim meet me across the street
at the gas station and while I'mwaiting on him I'm in a suit
chugging a tall boy behind adumpster and then I go get the
drop, go in through the backdoor, snort a couple different
(14:21):
colors of lines of powder, and Iwent and sit back down at my
desk and, like in Bill's story,he's talking about something
similar to this on page four, inthe first full paragraph, when
he's talking about October 1929,when hell broke loose in New
York stock exchange and he waskind of in a dry state but he
had some booze in his office andhe drank it and like, while
(14:42):
people are jumping out of thewindow, he's like man, that old
fierce determination when cameback I'm good, I'm gonna go make
, I'm gonna go do some shit,make some money, I'm gonna be
all right.
And like that old fiercedetermination to win came back.
Second, I walked out of thatbathroom after doing all that
stuff.
You know I sat back down in my.
You know, matt, sam, how's life, you know how are the kids Like
, you know, I've got to haveLyme disease.
(15:09):
It was awful, but like, I'mback, let's go make some money.
You know, so good to see y'allLike and so I was I was fixed in
that moment and um, Well, letme, let me jump in here real
quick.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Adams, listening to this, that are going to be able
to see a lot of similaritiesbetween what you're describing
and what's going on in theirloved one.
There's I'm sure there'sfamilies that are going to
listen to this that have hadtheir loved one in multiple
programs.
And when you say I just got outof treatment and I'm driving
back and I'm suffering fromuntreated alcoholism, what does
that mean?
So families understand that,like you just finished treatment
(15:43):
, how do you have untreatedalcoholism?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
So, you know, I, I, the drugs and alcohol were out
of my system, right.
So I have no sauce in my system, but I also hadn't yet been
through a process to recover.
So, you know, in that that'sthe most dangerous place for me
to be, because I'm, you know,I'm having problems on personal
relationships.
I can't control my emotionalnature.
(16:06):
I'm afraid of misogynistoppression, I'm full of fucking
fear.
I feel kind of useless.
I'm just super restless,irritable, discontent, just like
.
I can't do that Because in thatstate drugs and alcohol aren't
the problem, they're thesolution, right.
So when I go back to them, thatfirst time it fixes it.
But then, of course, becausethis thing's progressive, like
(16:30):
that, relief didn't last verylong and the wheels fell off the
train pretty quick, and youknow, and it kept rolling until
it didn't.
And then I, I was intervened on, you know, and I ended up
bouncing.
I went to a couple of places inthe bank I was working for.
They were like, hey, look,we're opening up a branch out in
Texas and we think it'd begreat for you to go out there
and like restart your, your lifeand your career.
(16:50):
And I was like man, sign me up.
Um, I was down in Florida.
At that time I was like I'mtelling me when to go, I'll be
there, um, so I was.
I was still on an FMLA leave,like still doing all the
treatment stuff.
I ended up out there.
I even went to a sober livingand stuff, but like I wasn't
doing shit, nobody was showingme what to do.
Um, and once again I'm doingstuff I think is going to fix
(17:11):
this thing and I, uh, I startedback working and I held it
together out there for, uh, foralmost a year.
Um, and it was real dark, realfast got intervened on again and
I ended up going to a differentstyle of treatment than I had
ever been to.
Unfortunately, that place isnot really.
(17:33):
It's not really there anymore,but it was where, you know, I
was able to get separated fromthe drugs and alcohol.
And then you know, work, theauthentic 12 steps, which to me
was I had never been presentedwith that and you know, keep in
mind I had had 11 differentsponsors at that point and I'd
(17:53):
probably been to 500 AA meetingsand so I was able to to start
that work, did not get that farinto it, but got enough of a
taste while doing, you know,some clinical stuff to where it.
It fired me up and um and Isought that out, you know hard
um leaving and it changed mylife and um, as I.
(18:15):
That was in 2015.
From from then on, I stayedreally close to um a few people.
One, you know who, who saved mylife is you know it's life is
my partner, chad Lynch.
He was one of the main guysrunning that place at that time.
As I was out there, I went back, I did some mortgage stuff.
(18:36):
I stopped.
I drove Jimmy John's deliveredUber for a little while, just
trying and sponsoring a ton ofpeople doing this stuff.
God showed me what to do.
I worked in treatment for alittle while and ended up coming
back to Birmingham and threw ina men's.
I made you know this.
This opportunity was kind ofthere.
You know, enough people sawthis and they were like you
(18:58):
should, you should opensomething up here.
And I'd always kind of had thatin mind and I had always kind
of been talking to Chad aboutlike hey, you know, and I had
always kind of been talking toChad about like hey, you know,
this stuff, that stuff out therein Texas is great, but it has
changed a lot since then it'sstill, if we're going to send
people places besides us, wesend them out there.
But you know it's not the sameas it was back then.
(19:19):
So we were kind of like, youknow, racking our head how can
we do something and keep it pure, keep it small, keep the magic
going and do it a little bitdifferent?
And that's what ended uphappening.
Chad said you open it, I'll come, and he did, and we partnered
up and you know, we opened thisplace where you know we've
(19:43):
cleaned up enough of the BS thatI've described to, where we've
got this magic little bubble,that when these guys can come in
here and they can, they canwork all 12 steps, you know,
this old school, authentic,uncut way and start to have an
experience and have enough of ashift to wake up to be able to
(20:04):
really do some, some deep,individualized clinical work.
And doing those two things inconjunction, you know, really is
just super effective.
And the third thing that we'vereally kind of come a long way
with in the last year is we'veset up this program called
Impactful Families so that thefamilies can work out on 12
(20:28):
steps, get a bunch of coachingand some stuff with each
client's therapist andspecialist, bunch of coaching
and some stuff with um, witheach client's therapist and
specialist, so they can get, geton the same path and get on the
same same plane as their lovedone, so that when they you know,
when they leave, like the wholeunit, they're ready to go plug
and play and do this instead offigure it all out Um, and you
know it's just um, I can't, I've, I've never seen or experienced
(20:53):
anything like what's going onup there right now.
You know, uh, 90% of ourclients have been to other
treatments before.
They've, you know, they've,they've been exposed to some
recovery stuff before.
And they come in here and, um,you know, their mind is blown.
They get excited about thisstuff, they start to get some
relief, they get fired up andthey, they walk out, they walk
(21:15):
out the door to go recreatetheir lives and they realize
this is not a struggle.
You're not always going to berecovering and I think it's a
gift to have this gene to be analcoholic or a drug addict, and
most of them get to experiencethat calling too.
I think that we were wired toneed power and once we plug up
(21:35):
into it, there's just somereally cool shit for us to go do
, cause I just I don't thinkmany of us should still be
breathing.
You know, I really think andthis is the way we all do over
here Is it like?
This is kind of like the bonusround, you know, and if we're
we're really in that bonus round, living on borrowed time, it's
(21:56):
because there's something for usall to go do, some kind of
purpose.
And if we can do this work andget plugged up with that, go out
there and do it, you just youlose fear of everything and
things change, and so you know,that's just kind of like that's
what's going on in theresidential phase.
But you know, it's just it'sour whole intent when we opened
impact was to impact treatmentand impact the fellowships at
the same time, and I would say,like that's happening, but also
(22:20):
the impact on the families isreally starting to, you know,
have a have a pretty strongripple effect so that more
people out there understand what, what this is, what the
solution is, and then all the,all the problems that are out
there right now.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
It's not really rocket science, is it?
It's really no rocket scienceis it.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I mean, they were doing this shit a hundred years
ago and it worked.
And then people, all we foundout all this new shit, we're
gonna do all this other stuffand fuck it all up, you know.
And now everybody hates eachother and they all want to argue
and like, dude, we just we'renot trying to make enemies, we
just we're glad, we're gladthere's all kinds of stuff out
there, but we just want to wantto help people and and and do
(23:08):
some have fun at the same time.
And I don't know anybody on ourteam that doesn't like, for the
95% time is waking up, likeexcited to go up there, cause
there's just an energy.
It's palpable, you know, youcan feel it and it's it's fun,
you know.
I think we're all doing whatwe're supposed to be doing and
it's it's starting to transformand and we're, we're, we're
(23:29):
growing a little, a little bitin some other ways.
We're not like adding a ton ofbeds, we're just we've opened a
transition phase in Birmingham,we're opening up a little
transition in Atlanta and we'rejust going to have these small
little pockets of enthusiasm andwhere they're supposed to be,
they'll end up and, um, you know, uh, it's just, that's kind of
I guess how many men can you,can you take care of at a time?
(23:52):
So we can take 14 in ourresidential phase and right now
we have 12 in the transitionphase in Birmingham, but we're
about to add another 12 to thatin Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
And it is men only right.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Right yeah, men only Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Go ahead, Tim.
Sorry Matt, no, you're good.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I didn't mean to jump in there, but I'll tell you
what you, I'll tell you what.
Sorry Matt, I didn't mean toeverybody go to this group today
and everybody do this you know,it's truly.
I don't know if I've everexperienced truly individualized
care, truly, and that is.
It was like it was 14, well, Ithink it was.
(24:47):
Was it 14 guys in there thatday?
I came?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
14.
And so there were the group yousat in on.
Because that was a fun day forme, I got to go sit in one of
Chad's groups I'm usuallyrunning one but uh, so there
were four guys on step four, butthat guy that the group we were
sitting in on, he was on thesex inventory.
The other guys were on just thethird column of the um, of the
regular traditional inventory.
(25:09):
So there were two split groupsin the fourth step.
But that's just kind of how weoperate, like, even in the same
step you can have multiple,multiple groups, um, and it's,
it's fun, man and our, we likeit, they like it, um, it's not
monotonous.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Now you're gonna get some old crusty folks who heard
this and hear you talking aboutyou know, know, step work group
and things like that.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Oh he's selling AA.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
He's selling 12 steps , but it's not.
It's really not.
You got clinicians there andthey're all working together.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I mean we just, if there weren't so many problems
out there in AA, you know, likemaybe something like this
wouldn't, wouldn't have the samething.
But, um, you know, we're not,we're not affiliated with any 12
step fellowship.
We're just using the, the oldschool, you know original
process with the treatment stuff, with with the individualized
(26:04):
clinical care and with thefamily component, and putting it
all in there together.
Um, you know, I really kind oflook at it back, like, you know,
back and it's all over thedoctor's opinion, like when
these, when these guys saw thatlike they could get people
separated, right, but, and thenthey could do all they wanted
with the psychiatric andclinical stuff, but they were
still having these issues untilthey saw that 12 step movement
(26:28):
get born in front of their eyesand then they kind of, you know,
pieced, itced it all together.
We just, instead of having todo it all out there in the free
world, we just, uh, sorry, we uh, instead of doing it out there
piecemeal in the free world, wejust put together this bubble
where it's all there, you know,all inclusive, um, and you can
(26:48):
do it with the, with the noisesilenced, and have have an
experience due to heavy liftingin there and then walk out and
plug and play.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Well, and so many families that I know.
Sam, you probably have thisexperience too, and, and Adams,
I'm guessing you hear this, ifyou are talking to families on
the front end, like they're sofocused on, well, how often are
they going to have individualtherapy?
How often do they get to see atherapist?
And and I think that's missingthe mark by by so much,
especially on the individualfront how often are they seeing
(27:19):
a therapist with you guys?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
So at least twice a week, but, but some of them more
than that.
And then the families are areseeing them too.
But, like I was telling Samthis, I don't remember how it
came up, but I get to speak alot of places and I love it.
And I was doing a talk at thistreatment center and it's a good
(27:43):
treatment center.
I like the people there, theydo good work.
And while I was waiting for thegroup to start, there were a
couple of guys that were early,which was a shocker to me.
But anyways, there was a newguy there and he said hey,
what's the difference between atech and a therapist?
And he said the tech is the guythat shows you where to go to
(28:04):
group and the therapist is theone that you meet once a week
and go over your treatment plan.
And I was just like my God.
So the difference with whatwe're doing because we're not
taking insurance is all thatclinical work is like what,
what's going on with you?
You know it's not.
They're not doing all thatstuff that they have to do.
You know like true, true, justclinical places which I'm not
(28:32):
knocking, I know there's a lotof good ones and they say like
I've gotten better clinical workhere than anywhere else I've
been before.
It's just different.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
You know Matt and I, you know we don't take insurance
, we don't work with insurance.
But you know he and I weredoing some work at a program
around their programming andtraining some people and it
really blew me away that all ofthe documentation and the time
(29:02):
wasted that is required byinsurance companies in order for
the facility to get paid.
It's a huge waste of time ofall the documentation and the
note keeping.
It takes hours a day from theclinician of actually doing the
work and you know a lot ofpeople are and you hear this,
(29:23):
I'll say a lot of people youhear this quite a bit of.
You know typical 30 daytreatment insurance driven
program is garbage.
I mean really, you hear thatright, I mean that's and for the
most part it's true.
Yeah, it is.
It's true.
It's insurance driven right, soinsurance is dictating what
they do and what they can't do.
And I don't care what the owneris, the owner could go in there
(29:45):
with all the best intentions inthe world, but you're going to
do what that insurance companytells you to do in order for you
to get paid, in order for themto keep their doors open, and
you have chosen.
You said to hell with that.
You're a good lord, you're agood rebel man, you're like out
of hell with that.
I'm not doing that.
Everybody told us we were crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
But you know it, it worked and uh, it's working
really well.
But I don't know, and I'm sureI'm sure that there was chatter.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
I'm sure before you opened the doors you heard a lot
of chatter.
And I'm sure that there waschatter.
I'm sure before you opened thedoors you heard a lot of chatter
.
And I'm sure that you did nothear a lot of chatter.
That was actually going onright before you opened the
doors, of people saying, well,that's never going to work,
that's not going to work,they're not going to stay open,
they're not going to stay open.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
It's just noise and what we really try to work like.
If you just don't identify withthe noise, you can continue to
get carried with whatever it iswe're supposed to do and then
identify with the noise.
It's just a waste of time andenergy and you know everybody
falls in that every once in awhile, but just not enough time
for that.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
There you go, there you go.
Background noise.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yeah, yeah, it can be with what you guys are doing
with family, cause I don't wantto neglect that, I want to.
I want to get into that alittle bit before we wrap up
with what you're doing withfamilies when you're so you're
taking them through the Al-Anonstep work.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Right.
So we have, we have threemasters level therapists that
are actually all in Al-Anon, andso we kept brainstorming this
way because I mean, y'all knowthis too just how there's
problems in our fellowships,there's a lot of problems in
Al-Anon.
A lot of people you go in thereall they do is talk about their
qualifier.
There's nobody in there workingthe steps, and so we kept
(31:29):
sending people to all theseAl-Anon groups and they're like
I feel, worse, not better.
So we set up this little dealwe have five Al-Anon groups at a
time, like five Al-Anon groupsa week.
There's four for the familiesthat have loved ones in there
and one for alumni, and they getto work the Al-Anon 12 steps.
(31:52):
In these small groups we haveone of our.
For most of them, one of ourstaff member gets on there and
breaks down the step from ourside for a second, and then you
know our, uh, our three magicalwomen do their thing, and then
you know it rolls and they use,um, they use, uh, some good
Al-Anon workbooks along withthat and they, they do the stuff
(32:16):
, um and uh.
You know, it's just.
I I didn't think it waspossible and it was a lot when
we were kind of tweaking it out,but for really, since about
September, october of 2023, itkind of clicked and now you know
they've got a system and itworks.
So the families do that.
(32:37):
And then they have a weeklylike kind of it's more of a
coaching call with each client'srecovery specialist, where
they're really giving them, youknow, coaching, guidance and
insight into all this stuffwhich they're doing so that they
get it more too.
And then the third thing iseach, each client's therapist
(32:59):
kind of like, with the weeklyupdate calls or whatever you
want to call them, they're kindof more given like homework for
the families to start doing soafter their loved one does their
fifth step.
They can do either, you know,an in-person or virtual family
session.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Um, you, know you said that about the al-anon.
Um, and nothing against that.
Look, my mama went to al-anonand you know I'm here today.
My mama went to Al-Anon, andyou know I'm here today, because
it drove her to get some morework done.
And then, you know, my days ofaddiction were numbered when she
entered the doors of that.
But I did an interventionyesterday and the family was
sitting around afterwards andshe's like you know, I really
(33:40):
want some more support formyself.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
She's I really don't know.
She said I went to.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Al-Anon.
She said, but it just seemedreally I was very confused.
She said I was very confused,it didn't, I didn't hear
anything about a solution.
I didn't.
It was just.
It was really.
It felt really off.
She said and then I went toy'all's, which was IOC's family
support group, on Thursday night.
She said my daughter and I wentto that and she said it was
(34:05):
totally different.
And I'm like, yeah, I meanbecause we're going to keep it
in the solution, like you don'tneed a group to sit around and
talk about the problem.
You know I can go down to thedonut shop down here and talk
about the problem.
You know I can do that any timeof day.
But this was is about solution,that I can do that any time of
day, but this is about solution.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
It sounds like that's what y'all got going on with
that.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
What do you do, Adams ?
What do you do if a familyisn't willing to engage in their
own recovery while their lovedone's with you?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
It happens.
It happens about 10% of thetime, about 10% of the time, and
so we try to do more with themin those calls than we would
somebody else.
And you know, thank God that.
(34:56):
You know we can get wellregardless of another person.
And that's just some people'sjourney, you know, thank God,
because those people can, canhelp the ones that that, um, you
know are similar to them.
They would have a differentexperience than somebody's
family being all in.
I mean, I, I have two parents,you know, thank God.
(35:17):
They're amazing, Um, but likemy mom does this stuff, my dad
doesn't, doesn't matter.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
It's just how it is Well.
Adams Pritchard, thank you somuch for being our guest today.
For those of you that areinterested in finding out more
about Adams's program, can yougive us your website?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, it's impactrecoverycenternet.
If you just Google us and it'llpop up.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
I'll put it in the show notes as well.
If families want to go there,there'll be a link that they can
click on through and reach outto you guys if they feel like
you're the right spot for theirloved one.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Thank you all for having me.
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
You bet.
Thanks for being here.
We'll see you again soon.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah, thanks for being on here, man Love.
Yeah, thanks for being on here,man love seeing you again.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Y'all have a good one .
Thanks again for listening tothe Party Wreckers.
If you liked what you heard,please leave us a rating and a
review.
This helps us get the word outto more people, to learn more or
to ask us a question we cananswer in a future episode.
Please visit us atPartyWreckerscom and remember
(36:29):
don't enable addiction ever.
On behalf of the Party Wreckers, matt Brown and Sam Davis.
Let's talk again soon.
Popular Podcasts
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.