Decoding Brainwaves: The Power of Light, Sound, and Neuroplasticity

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Doctor Patrick Porter, Wekay podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Thank you, Paul. It's great to be here.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Great to have you all the way from North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, I sound a little bit like you, right, So
that's the way.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's what's your givear, lest there's a sort of a
sense of your background, just the kind of one page
here if you like.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Sure. Well, I started out actually working with my dad,
who was a silver instructor the Silver method back in
the seventies and eighties. He got help with his alcoholism,
so we got doing seminars. So I grew up doing
seminars and working with the brain and teaching people to
go to what they call level, which was alpha. And
then I went to school for electronics. That's why I
have a device I created. But when I went to
school for electronics, then I kept working with my dad,

(00:54):
and then I got a job with a company called
Light and Sound Research, and we invented the very first
portable light and saw machine back in eight nine and
got the best New Gadget of the year at the
Consumer Electronics Show.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
But is this the MC two, Yeah, the MC square.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
We call it. Yeah, think of it. So what we're
what we're showing is, you know, basically wanted to show
people it makes them makes you smarter, like the Mozart effect.
When you listen to bro classical music, your brain just
works better. The hemisphere synchronized the energy and the brain
increases and you just are smarter. So I wasn't the
one who invented it all. I was one of six people.

(01:28):
But I'm the one who carried on them, the last
one alive, I should say, So everybody else is gone,
and I keep carrying the torch. And I do believe.
My first book is called Awake in the Genie. I've
written ten books, but now eleven that's coming out. But
the first book was called Awaken the Genius because I
believe everybody is imbued with genius, but they're thinking about
it wrong. So listeners just understand this. In Roman mythology,

(01:49):
they had a word. They said, every one of us
has a genie, and if we tap into that genie
to use our talents and skills, we're called genius.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I think people are into their talents and skills.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
So most people think of genius as somebody who's smart
at math or science.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
The reality is everybody has their.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Own genius, and I believe we have to show up
and really let our brain and body work together to
create our genius experience.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
So it all comes genius comes from genie from Roman mythology. Yeah,
I know that that's pretty cold. And so let's talk
and let's give our listeners. That's just assume that they're
completely uninitiated in this area. Right, Let's talk about the
basics of brainwave patterns. Give us the sort of three two,

(02:33):
three minute one oh one on brainwave patterns.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Sure, there's five primary brain waves that we go through
all day long. The secret is to go through them all.
If you get stuck in sympathetic drive, you're only in beta,
which creates every one of these brain waves triggers neurotransmitter activity.
So when people say we have a mental health crisis
in the world today, I tell them, no, we have
a physiological crisis in the world today. People are sitting

(02:56):
too much. They're not getting exposed to different environments. So
our rain almost like a humming pigeon or something you know,
or some a bird that's flying north to south every year.
How does it know how to do that? It's because
our brain has certain frequencies. Nature has a frequency. If
we are by a body of water. It's ten hurtz frequency.
Our brain has an evoque potential for ten hertz. Anything

(03:17):
from zero point five to eighty eight, our brain will follow.
They call it frequency following response. This is the science.
And so when somebody does a nature's walk, let's say
they get out and ground themselves. What they're doing is
they're getting into alpha. This is a very powerful brain
wave state because it unlocks the nervous system from the
stress that we're experiencing, and we have a propensity to
look for things that get us out of stress. It

(03:37):
can get us in trouble too, because we might look
for a dopamine hit, you know, in an addiction that
doesn't give us what our brain needs. What we found
is that also we can give stimulus like theta. If
we go to a mountaintop and we're sitting in a
mountain top, that mountain top experience happens because our brain
creates gabba during theta.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Now, gaba is a precursor to DMT.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
So all these people doing psychedelics, You've done so many
studies on psychedelics that we show that it's not the
psychedelic that's doing it. It's the brain's reaction to the
psychedelic So we can get stimulus like lights on and
vibration and the body can make that same experience happens. Yes,
you have DMT in every cell. So basically think of

(04:18):
your brain. We have an energy equation for health for
your brain. Especially when we were born, we both had
a brain at eighteen point one volts. It could learn things, languages,
it could learn how to walk, it could do I mean,
we take something that knows nothing and two years later
is walking around like a little adult, you know. And
now as we age that brain voltage goes down. Well,

(04:38):
we know with frequency if you're exposed to different environments.
And this is something that the listeners probably heard that
we had mapped the human genome, but they told us
we only have one percent genes that they know about
ninety nine percent is junk. Well, in twenty eighteen they
actually discovered technology that told us that that ninety nine percent.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Is not junk.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
It's not junk.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, every forty seconds, that DNA changes, and that DNA
that's in your body, Paul, in my body, if I
took the DNA of yours and stuck it to the floor,
it would stretch to Pluto. Now that DNA, they now
know this is science. Now it's not make believe or metaphysics.
It's actually absorbing codes from your environment and beating those

(05:18):
codes out into your body. And that's where your body.
Let's say you look at life as a pessimist, then
your body's going to downregulate because of fear. But if
you're an optimist, it's going to upregulate and help you
face the challenge. So that's why mindset. Everybody talks about mindset,
it's really because it's changing your epigenetic expression.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
So we have to train the brain to do that
and get into environments.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
That's why doing things like even cold plunges, if you
look at it as a challenge, it's going to be
good for our nervous system. We've measured we've measured people
going in cold plunged and they get a negative response
to it because they feared it. They weren't looking at
as it. So that's really important. So when we think
about brain frequencies, we have to go. Sleep is most important.
We can talk about that later because that's where we
combate our superpowers, but we go the sleep cycle is

(06:01):
going through these different brainwave patterns but if we get
stuck in any of them, we don't make the neuro
transmitters we need. And then the next day and usually
lasts about four hours. Most people they run out of
neurotransmitters and they're basically borrowing against tomorrow because they haven't
done the work. First thing in the morning, they go
out and they have a cup of coffee first thing

(06:21):
in the morning. That's the number one worst thing you
can do for brain function because it kills your cortisol
troth when you should have a good night's sleep. Now
you can have coffee two hours after awakening, but if
you have it right at the time you awaken, the
brain goes. The brain is inherently lazy. It says, Wow,
you're going to dump a chemical into my system. You're
going to stimulate dopamine cortisol in THEA for nephron. I

(06:43):
don't need to make that anymore.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
So if you take coffee first thing in the morning,
it's also going to compete with cortisol docking on the
A danisine receptor.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Right, And yes, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, but that's sorry, But I think we need to
give a clear introduction to.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Okay, let me talk about SI matters. So where we're
at right now speaking, we should be primarily in beta,
but nobody's in just one brain weight state. We call
it a symphony of brain weight. So if we could
get forty five, if we could magically type into a
computer and have forty five percent beta, that'd be perfect.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Thirty percent alpha. Now, beta is your reactionary mind.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
We need that.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
It's not a villain.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
If we didn't have the reactionary mind, if we're playing
sports or driving an automobile, we wouldn't be able to react.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
To the situations.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
The problem is people get too much of that and
then they turn on too much cortisol inu per neferit
in dopamine when they don't want it. And dopamine is
never never gives you a payoff. But beta is where
dopamine is made. If you don't have high beta, you
won't make as much dopamine, you won't have addictions, you'll
be in more of a flow state. So when you
drop into alpha alpha, think of it as your intuitive mind.

(07:51):
This is where the answers to all your problems are.
And we don't know everything at every moment in time,
but our brain retrieves information from our learning experience is
as we need it because if you remembered everything at
one time, we'd be able to walk, you know. So
we have this and this is the recall network. That's
why this brainwave is responsible for creativity, expression, also language.

(08:13):
That's why within the old days, when they said the
biggest fear is public speaking, it was because when you're
high stressed, you lose alpha. If you have autistic child,
I can tell you, I can guarantee you they have
low alpha. In our studies, when we got the autistic
child up to twenty three percent alpha, ninety percent of
them starts speaking because it has to do a speech.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Now, think of these brain waves like Wi Fi networks.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
If you open up your phone right now, you probably
have ten Wi Fi networks you can't get into because
your neighbors have you don't have the password, so you
have to change your state to get into these networks,
or you have to expose yourself to environments to do it.
When we drop into theta, Theta is very difficult to
get into, but we pass through it every day during
sleep and hopefully a good experience.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Think of Theta as the inventive mind.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Every great inventor on Earth had a sleep protocol where
you read about them. They had this, like Edison and Einstein,
even Tesla, they would have thought experiments. They would go
into a sleep state and as soon as they hit
deep sleep, they would drop a fork or a ball
or whatever they were holding. When the body gave up
all of its ghost Now the solutions came into the mind,
because we're almost locked out of those solutions. As long

(09:18):
as we have we have our own thinking, we can't
get into creative thinking. That's why the mind works best
like a parachute right when open. So we have to
keep our brain open now when we drop into delta.
Delta's sleep. The importance of delta is to really reorganize
the body. Most people don't realize that during sleep you
do more neurological activity than you do in you're awake.

(09:39):
You also are organizing your day, and sleep is something
that we need to learn to do better. We can
get into that a little bit more later, but Delta.
You don't learn in delta. That's what amazes me. There's
people out there that are trying to teach people how
to go to delta and learn delta. You're not there
anymore when you're into right del Yeah. Yeah, it's like

(09:59):
why you teaching somebody in delta. In Delta, you know everything.
You're in a dream like state. You don't need to
learn anything. So and this is where the gleolymphatic system
kicks on, which we can talk about a little later.
So now gamma is something that's been relatively new the
last fifteen years. And I didn't even know. I mean,
if you'd asked me fifteen years ago, don't go to gamma,
it's dangerous, blah blah blah. But what we found was

(10:21):
when people were doing these we did a study in
Dallas with doctor Rosenthal with PTSD and they were doing
a psilocybin and we were going to be the integration tool.
They were going to do the a psilocybin to get
them to loosen up and get neuroplasticity, and then we
were going to use this to train their brains. But
we had some some of the some of the soldiers
did not want to use a psilocybin. And I said,

(10:43):
tell you what, the ones that want to use it,
let's map their brains with QEG. And what we noticed,
every one of them, not every one, I'm telling that
had these experiences of a psilocybin. They had a region
just to the left of the hippocampus that lit up
big time with gamma. So I created a series on
brain tap. We have over five hundred series now that
will create this experience because you have to have something
new and novel to get neuroplasticity. So getting some people

(11:05):
get stuck in their own brain waves because they do
the same thing every day. They basically the brain again
is very lazy. If you give it a pattern that
is easy to follow, it will happen. And then there's
three things that happen that the listener as they're listening
to us. One is, as when you were born, you
were the smartest you're ever going to be. You were
fully connected. But as you learn things, your brain did

(11:26):
something called neuropruning. You don't get smarter, you actually get dumber. Yes, yeah, yeah,
So you're unplugging. So that means those neuropathways are still there,
but they're not active. Then as we do new things,
novel things, we lift weights, we do things like creating
BDNF and all these kind of things. Now our brain
can do neurogenesis. We have to train the brain to

(11:49):
do neurogenesis takes energy. So if you're not eating right,
if you're not moving and breathing, if you're not doing
some kind of contemplation relaxation exercises, your brain will not
do that. And then we can have different experiences like
I'll just use exercise because I know I listened to
some of your podcasts and big on that when you exercise,
that is the best time for you to do neuroplasticity

(12:10):
because you have BD and F going. But the problem
is most people don't meditate afterwards. When we have people
who work out then meditate for five or ten minutes,
the neuroplastic change is exponential because if you go right
from one stressful event to the next stressful event like
driving your car or eating a candy bar or perching bar,
whatever you're doing, the body doesn't really.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Value that time.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
And I wrote an article for Mind Muscle magazine about
aceta coline when you get into meditation, that a seat
of coline binds at the muscle connection.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
You actually get more muscle when you meditate after exercising.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
It's been grooting it because it's really I never I've
never thought about it like that because I mean I
have often written about the exercise creates all the conditions
necessary for neuroplasticity, yes.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Bd n F, VGF and a whole host of growth
factors and just primes you for learning. And actually when
when my little girl, I say, little girl, she's nine nineteen,
but studying, I said, make sure you do some exercise
before you study, because it absolutely primes your brain for learning. Right.

(13:22):
But to come back to the brand wayves, just to
give people a sense of it, we'll be talked about beta.
So we're in beta now, I probably will primarily yes,
and high beta. When people are anxious, they're just in
very high beta, aren't they.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
And now in there don't have the oscillation of alpha
and theta. We should have about twenty percent alpha while
we're or thirty twenty to thirty percent. Then that think
of it like it's a dance. And if you're just
in high beta, you're dancing with yourself. There's no other actor.
But if you can get the up and theta, now
you have a partner now your brain because our brain

(13:59):
we're on harmonics. So these harmonics open up gateways in
our brain for energy and transformation. We're not learning the
way most people think. We know now that every cell
of your body is transmitting and receiving infra red light
and you're getting beamed codes from the sun, from the
universe everywhere. Everything in your environment is actually working with
those brain ways.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
But if you're in.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I just need to jump in there because some people
might be going, WHOA, that's some wacky shit here. But
the quantum biology, I've been digging into this a little
bit lately. Just the effect of light on your sales
at a quantum level is frigging mind boggling. And we

(14:47):
probably will I think we will talk about photo biomodulation,
which I've written about in my book. I'm sure you've
written about it. And it turns out that light and
different way of lengths of light actually communicate with ourselves
at in terms of the mitochondria, but also at a
quantum level, which is kind of spooky shit, right, Yeah.

(15:10):
I mean I think Einstein called quantum physics spooky action
at a distance, and it's happening in our bodies when
we're interacting with.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Right, And our Institute of Health actually has a page
on there that success the biosphere, and they say that
we have a sphere of energy around us. Now, some
people have measured the heart up to eighteen feet away
the heart rate, you know, because it's a magnetic pulse.
But they say, we have a three foot diameter light field.
And when you when you meet somebody in person, you're

(15:40):
not just meeting them on a physical level, you're meeting
them on a light level because you're transmitting and receiving
light all the time.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
So hot what we're transmitting as well.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yes, we're transmitting and receiving light all the time every cell.
Now when we include like photobiomodulation, the reason that they
have tuned light like six to fifteen animeter light to
eight ten light or eight fifty what they know is
that that speeds up something called ATP production. So if
we think of currency for the body, you know, like
in business, they say money takes care of a lot
of problems, and the body ATP takes care of a

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lot of problems. So it's like having a lot of money.
So when you're that's neuroplasticity at its finest. So a
lot of our environments, like when you think of the
EMF where you think of pain on the walls or mold,
basically our body has to fight those things. Just like
being in an airplane. Most people don't know. Every hour
in the air is like getting an X ray and
like most and when you go to the hospital you

(16:31):
get a CT scan. They can only do thirty of
those on your lifetime. So what is that doing to
your body?

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Now?

Speaker 2 (16:38):
It's good that you get the scan, but it's you.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Have to rebuild the cells after that because they've been
that's light energy, even though it's not it's not healthy light.
It's not like you know, the the pmfs that they
have out there and different technologies. But we are we're
photo beings. This is not science. This not metaphysics anymore.
I always tell people, don't believe me. This is its
belief is on Sunday morning. This is all science, faith.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Our solity depending on what you are right. So talk
to me about how we transmit light? Where where is
that coming from?

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Your mitochondria? Its whole job. And you can measure this now,
your mitochondria and by the way, your eyes absorb more
light than any other region of the body. And you
have more mitochondria in the eyes by square cinemeters than anywhere.
Of course the brain has most, but the So think
of your eyes, like that's where you're breathing in, because
that's where we see the danger we you know, we're

(17:36):
perceiving the world. So if if that's why morning sunlight
is so good and evening sunlight is so good, it
resets even the gut by home, you know. I mean,
I tell people a lot of people are concerned with
this brain between our ears that actually is the dumbest brain.
That's like a Google tablet. It simply receives and transmits information.
If you're not on the internet, it doesn't function. But

(17:56):
if you get a if you get a severed spine, right,
your body will function because you have this incredible gut
brain in this heart brain that are keeping the biological
system alive. This brain is only it can get us
in trouble or it can help us to achieve our goals.
So it's how do we train it? You know, what
are we focusing our attention on? And when we did
that light energy or you're around the right people, even

(18:18):
you're going to raise your energy level. That can be
actually measured. Now it's not in science, we can measure
these things. And we did a lot in India with
the All Indian Institute of Medical sciences and that we
became we got two years ago we were the Researcher
of the Year because we actually took some ancient traditions
in the Vedas and we showed them how we do
it with modern technology. And we measured things like praniama

(18:39):
breathing and other like how you move your body.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
What was going on during proniama breathing and did you
measure Brian way of patterns saying that presumably there was
a big chunk of alpha and a bit of beaten,
maybe some gamma going almost What.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
They found was you would go through almost the stairs
that you would increase your alpha, you get a little theta,
and then if you're really into it, you then start
to increase your gamma gamma. Most people only have less
than three percent of gamma while they're away, but think
of gamma as the bass drum. You know, if you
don't have gamma, your brain will defrag and you won't
be able to function.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
And there was an interesting paper I read recently on
the neural anatomy of an aha moment and the aha
moment there's a when, and they did it cleverly with
solving problems and stuff like that, and looking at brainwath
patterns and that aha moment that you get is a

(19:36):
burst of gamma. But what they found is that you
have to be an alpha before the gamma kicks in.
So in terms of creativity, I think one big take.
When you're stressed or in the workplace, if it's a
stressful workplace, forget about creativity, right, because everybody's in bloody
high beta. Right.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
That's why we showed we did a study with Google
and Microsoft after COVID. You know, they all returned to
work and Julie aren't who there's actually a Ted talk
where she did about this. She was our researcher and
they asked us, how can we stop burnout? And I said,
at two o'clock in the afternoon, we have a biological low.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
We lose two degrees.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
This is all set by the light from the sun.
That sun is also beaming codes to our body. They
call it the circadian rhythm. Our body absorbs it through
the DNA, transmits it through the body, and instructs our
body what to do.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
That's why at ten o'clock.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
At night we get more melatonin and if we don't
get to bed by eleven, we don't clean our liver.
This is all controlled by light. And so what we
at first these programmers said, there's no way we can
do that. We can't take twenty minutes off. But what
we showed them by using brain to have twenty minutes
a day for two weeks, we showed them they got
twenty six percent more work done because in the afternoon,

(20:48):
even though.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
They thought they were working, the brain was slower.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Didn't have the interview. But when we said, and that's
why we wrote the new book, is because we need
to change the way we do business. Our brain was
not created for the world we live in.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Patrick I. We are in violent agreement. I often say
to corporates when I'm doing talks. They'll say, who here
has fallen into the trap of being so busy that
they work all the way through lunch and they go
flat chat all day and all the hands generally go up.
And I say to them, if I was to design
the least productive working day, it would look exactly like that, right, Yeah,

(21:25):
because we're not designed that. We have all trarian rhythms
as well as circadian rhythms, as you will know. But
talk to us a little bit more about that. That
mid afternoon, the deer or dip, and how that's driven
by the by the sun, and what people can do
about it.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
So in the morning when you wake up, you should
have that high court as all right, it should be going,
but it's going to that trough is going to go down.
By about two o'clock, it's going to bottom out. We're
designed to take a nap. These brains were designed for
the Serengetti. Nothing happens at two o'clock in the Serengeti.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
But we literally it right, okay.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
So now what we do, of course, is we stimulate chemically.
That's the worst thing, because we have our sympathetic, we
have our parasympathetic, we have a neuro honomonal system. That
neural hoomonal system is like our backup generator. It should
only be used in emergencies, but people are using that
every day. So then when they have an emergency, they
have a break they have a breakdown instead of a breakthrough.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Now, if they have the energy like you're saying, they
have outpha.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Going in that those aha moments, that's a breakthrough if
you can if you can look at a breakthrough and
then your brain it's more energy, but it doesn't make
sense to.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
A lot of people.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
But it's more energy, but it's in the form of
light energy, not the form of solid food or beverages. Now,
we absolutely need water with light with salt in it
because our brain's like a battery, you know. We need
that kind of thing. So I'm not excusing all those things.
But what we know is that the sun, no matter
where you're at in the world, that dip happens. And

(22:52):
people that some people just do this naturally. They say,
I do a little catnap. And if you're really going
at doing catnaps, you're doing exactly what you want to do.
Is think of your car. You just put in the clutch.
You know, you're just kind of cruising. Now your brain,
you're the motor of the brain, can slow down regularly
because that neurological activity I was talking about at night,
we are we are bombarded with so much information every

(23:13):
day that more than our brain can handle.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
That's why we need these breaks.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
And some people might need two or three breaks, smaller
breaks during the day just to keep their brain functioning. Right.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yeah, Look, look, I completely agree around this and taking
regular breaks and I call them tactical resets. And yeah,
because we're just not designed to run hard consistently. So
let's let's talk now about highlight and signed effect the

(23:44):
brain and affect brain way of patterns and particularly and
will be a nice segue into the stuff that that
you have developed with brain shat. But but give us
the give us the kind of overview. First of all,
maybe let's talk about signed and I'll I think we'll
get into bironal baits.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
So with sound, what we do think of every cell
has a little chroma form, right, the little battery every
cell does, and it's absorbing light energy, sound energy, and vibration.
It's part of our emergency network. It tells us when
we're in an area like our because the sense of
smell is the most powerful, is the first criminal nerve developed.
It when you're in fetal, you're being born, you know

(24:23):
when you're being developed. So these sense cases, these senses
are all happening without our awareness. It's the other than
conscious mind doing it, not your conscious mind. So what
we know is we can present and the best way
I can explain it is, let's say you go to
a party. You didn't want to go to it, but
you get there and they start playing all your favorite music.
What's going to happen that sound. You're gonna start tapping
your foot, You're gonna start dancing, and your friend's gonna

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go I didn't think you wanted to come here. Well,
they're playing all my favorite music. But that tuned into
the cells in the memory of the positive memories, and
the cells started to fill up with ATP again. The
science is called actually frequency following response. Our body responds
to it. So when you think about where we we
respond to the frequencies, and that's happening. By the way,

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the DNA they now say every forty seconds, so every pair,
so everybody listening you are a different person here. You're
not only fifty millions sells per second or changing, but
every DNA pair has changed every forty seconds to adapt
to the information you're receiving, the food you consume, the
room you're in. This is all being done mostly by vibration,

(25:24):
so sound is really important. So binurobeats, when you think
about binor beats have been around a long time.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Think of the ancient times. They use singing.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Bowls and they would find somebody that wasn't maybe they're
a little crazy in the tribe and they said, what's
going on.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Well, somebody figured out, let's put one bowl on this.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Side of the head, one bowl on that side of
the head, and then the person became well. And then
of course that went on to the eight hundreds to
people found out, hey, we could present a sound. We
can use tuning forks, we can now we can use
technology and just do it through recordings, you know, and
just do it.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
We don't have to be there present.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
But what happens is, let's say I present a two
hundred inarch frequency in one year and two hundred and
twenty herd spequency in the other. The brain is not
going to hear two hundred or two hundred and twenty.
It's gonna hear twenty hurts frequency because the brain hears
a phantom sound. And the most bizarre part about this, Paul,
is we're doing this all the time. That's why for
people who have never heard themselves recorded, and then then

(26:19):
when they hear themselves recorded, they go, that doesn't sound
like me. But if you listen to it for a while,
then it does become sounding like you. But you're not
used to hearing it that way because you're used to
hearing it in a binaural environment. Yeah, and so now
not everybody has perfect hearing. So in the sound place,
there's a lot of ways to use sound and frequency.

(26:40):
But there's also something and this is what doctor I mean,
Jose Silva did in my dad's training when we used
to I grew up doing these seminars with my dad
and he would play this sound in the back of
the room called the Silva sound. Now, we didn't know
what that was in the seventies. Nobody talked about it.
But what it was it was an isochronic tone. So
when you think about isochronic tone, every cell of your

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body right now is singing.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
So's watch an isa chronic tone.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
That's a mono signal that has a beat frequency. We
might go on one, one five, one, one six. It
has different frequencies that it's it's hitting you at. But
it can be done mono. You don't have to be
in stereo. Like for binaural beats to work, you have
to have them separated in one and one in each right,
So we like when we go to the schools and
we do what we call brain prep. They usually do

(27:27):
some physical workout like they might do tai chi or yoga.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Then they do a brain tap session before they start
the school.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
We do this like ten different schools in India and
we have to do it across the speakers because we
don't have you know, one hundred and sixty headsets there.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
So so so.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Now, the thing is that the Earth itself is an
isochronic tone generator. So if we if you and I
walk along the ocean or walk along a river, that
it has an evoked potential. And what they know is
that every cell of your body is singing, it's singing
back to you.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
It's a tone.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
You have a tone. In fact, there's a book called
The Crystal Planet by doctor Jackman where it's hard to
get that book. I've been trying to find more for people.
But in that book he said that they put a
satellite up into space because they know everybody's frequency. I mean,
they have a way that they can point it at you.
And you have a frequency. You are making a sound,
you're making a song, and it's not a metaphysical thing.

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Your body is humming and it's the harmonics to keep
you together. And they pointed it back at Earth. And
the scary part was, and this was in the seventies, is.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
This frequency generated. Are we talking about atoms and generation
or is it sales or is it the atoms within
the sales that are giving us a particular vibrational frequency
because all atoms vibrate, right.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yes, all atoms vibrate, but they also make a tone.
They have an evoked potential, they call it. So in
like when we walk by water, we know that bodies
of water, like the ocean or river, moving water more
than anything else, it has a ten hertz evil potential.
Now that's why in ancient times when we were hunting
and gathering, we go by a river and maybe we'd

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stop get a drink, we were exposed to alpha. We
go into the mountains. The mountains have seven points frequency
they called the Humann frequency. So this is the frequency
of theta. So when we walk through a forest bait,
they call it when we're walking through the forest, that's
actually ten hertz frequency. So they're mostly all about the
state in alpha. Now when we get and.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Is this why Patrick, Sorry to jump in, but is
this why spending time in nature? So forest b I
think you mentioned the Japanese have done a lot of
studies on this that it can it just there's just
crazy stuff that happens, and inflammation drops down changes your
brain wave patterns. It has effects at a cellular level

(29:48):
when we're actually in forests or around nature. And is
this why it's due to the frequencies then interacting with
Brian patterns.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yes, And also so if you can go another step
further and do it barefoot or do it with some
grounding shoes.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
When I first read about grinding, I thought this is
woo woo horseshit, and then I started digging into it.
It is not woo woo horseshit. There's a heape of
randomized clinical control trials showing that putting your fate or
your body in contact with the surfaces of the years
actually changes your physiology. Can you tell our listeners why

(30:28):
that is?

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, Well, you're also you're a transducer, so you conduct electricity.
So if you're not grounded, like you're wearing rubber shoes,
you're not touching the earth. And what I tell people
is get a volt homemeter, go to a home good store,
ask them that you want to measure your body, put
the right in the left on, and here you're going
to find that you probably have three vaults of energy.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Coursing through your body.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Now take your shoes off, go outside with that same voltometer,
you'll have zero.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
You should be zero point.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
So I tell people it's like you have your body
has all this raging information, and it's.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Like startic electricity. It gets discharged when you contact with
v R. That's my kind of basic understanding.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
So like me right here while I'm speaking, I have
a grounding mat under my keyboard. All I have to
do is every once in a while to touch that
grounding mat in this computer information.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
And we did this with we did a study with people.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
There are people that are EMF sensitive that actually will
pass out when they go buy a five G tower
because the brain is trying to figure out everything is pulsing.
So let's say that we're used to zero point five
to eighty eight. That would be the brain waves we're
talking about. Those are in those frequency dan right now.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Then that's the entire range of gamma all the way
through to the top of beta.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Unless you're a Buddhist monk and you're up there in
the three hundreds. But most people will be between eight
hundred and in zero. It seems like gamma's infinite. You know,
they've had these people doing it, but these brain waves
are what we're used to and they're telling ourselves what
to do. So now we get bombarded by an EMF signal.
That's five G. That's fifty million impulses per second. In
the scope of our existence on Earth. The human body

(32:05):
has never experienced that. It doesn't know what to do
with that information, so it grounds it. But if we
can't ground it, it circulates in us and the body
is trying to figure.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Out what's that trying to tell me.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Because if we took the spectrum of all light, sound,
and vibration frequencies and made it just the computer you're
looking at, we don't even take up a hairspread of it,
but all those other frequencies are there. So what we
know is that we need to stay clear. We need
to be around environments that are because the nice thing
is you can do this with your mind. You can
you can learn to train your brain to do these things,

(32:38):
but if you're in the environment, you don't have to
do that.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
The body knows how to do it.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
So you know, even if you have some people, I
tell get a waterfall for your office. So every once
in a while you just hear that running water, your
brain will sink to alpha. You know, there's a reason
these things have been proven to be true. Change your lighting.
If you have fluorescent lights, that could you know, get
what they call that light's full spectrum lights, because you
can be getting those those you can be getting that

(33:04):
information all that and Jada back in the seventies he
said that then I think William's cousin, the Doctor Cousins,
said the most underprescribed nutrient on Earth is light.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
You know, that's I've written extensively in my new book
about light and just the crazy shit that's going on.
But let's not let's let's bring this in. So we've
talked about we've talked about signed, we've talked about light.
Let's not talk about how you put them together with
this brilliant trap. So so explain our listeners have never

(33:37):
heard of it ractally, and what the device is, and
see what it's sending into your brain and what the
effects tend to be.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Sure, most people can't meditate, and the main reason is
that when you close your eyes with no stimulus, you
are shutting down thirty percent of your brain and that
turns on the monkey mind or the default mode.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
Dept.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, what's the Dalai Lama called monkey mind?

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Right? Monkey mind? So that's why they and we've measured
about thirty thousand brains here in the last ten years.
We only have four people that can actually meditate. The
others were actually stressing themselves out because they're going into
this state of relaxation. But they're not in relaxation mode.
They're hearing all this messaging. So you've probably heard the
expression my kids are too tired of sleep. Well, most
people are too tired to sleep and meditate. So what

(34:26):
we're gonna do is we're going to present light into
the eyes. This is how we started. Now your eyelids
are closed because it's using photobiomodulation, which means when the
cells fill up with the energy, they actually share that
energy with the cell nextit. It's very different than the
human condition. It doesn't go get a storage unit and
store the energy. It says, use it right now. Because
our body is very cyclic. It wants to know what's
going on today. The neurotransmitters you need today are being

(34:49):
made by you today and then in they're yours, they're
not somebody else's, so your body's using them. So what
we did is we started saying, if we can do
this with binural beads. LED's just came out and we
did a we did research with candles and they call
it the gyot meditation.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
So when you look at a candle.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
And that candle is flickering at ten herds frequency, like
if you and I go to a campfire, a lot
of people get mesangized by the campfire. Yes, that's because
that campfire is actually doing two things really important for
our body. Number One, it's crackling at ten herds frequency.
So that in ancient times, that's how we'd calmed down.
I mean we were just in the food chain. Now
we're going back home. So now we're in front of
the fire, we're calming down. That fire is actually emitting

(35:28):
infra red light. It's actually beating yourselves, giving you energy
to go to sleep. Unlike watching television where they say, oh,
the next show flips on because you're watching Netflix or whatever.
You know, when that log burns down, we go to sleep.
Nobody goes go get a few more logs. I want
to binge watch these logs. That doesn't happen, so that

(35:48):
we know that that works. So what we said is
when LEDs came out. You can't change the flickering of
a fire. It's going to be ten herds frequency every time.
So but with LEDs we could get the same lumen
lumines and as a candle we only use eight LED's.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
It's very low level light.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
And what we do is we're actually connecting with the
cranial nerve too. And what we're doing is this is
something that when you were when we were in ancient times,
when the sun came up, we were up because we're
part of the food chain. So that flash of light
when the sun came up, right, we're not laying there,
you know, waiting to get the snooze.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Mooning, moning over and putting the eyemasks down. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah, so so we're up. So what we're doing is,
let's say we flash the light in the right eye,
the left brain's gonna wake up. If we flash the
light in the left eye, the other it's going to be.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
So then realize, Patrick, that the light coming into your
right eye crosses over to the other side of the
brain and vice versa. Right.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, that's why when people have some brain injuries they
can't see xs because when you see, you see an X,
you're actually breaking the laws of physics. You can't have
a line cross in space and time, but every person
usually does that every day. That's because our creative brain.
But if somebody has a brain injury, they don't see
access all sorts of things. So we we take for
granted what we're we're creating this reality, not not we're

(37:07):
not creating the reality. We're creating our perception of the reality.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
So you know, still not I need to jump in
with a little diversion. What I often say to people
is that your brain is creating a personalized hallucination of.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
That's perfect, that's what you're doing, and it's faced on.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
It's just God, yep, absolutely, I can't.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, so what we That's why if you get discretionary
access to it, you can figure out what are you
programming for yourself? Keep the things that work for you,
but begin to visual I have a saying that is
you get what you rehearse in life.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Now what you intend.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
You can have great intention, but when stress, emotion drives behavior.
So if you have high stress, you're going to forget
about all your intentions and you're going to get out
of pain and suffering.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Because we like to run from from fear and anxiety.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
But if we can learn to face those with a
challenge mindset, we overcome them.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
We get a superpower.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
You know that those don't You know there are some
people that handle stress at high levels and doesn't seem
to bother them. Then other people get a little bit
of stress and they crumble because we have to free
ourselves to do that.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
So with this light what it does. We didn't know
all the things.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
That light does when we started in the eighties, we
didn't have There wasn't even the technology to do eg.
We were looking at our skin, skin temperature, respiration, heart rate.
We were usually a biofeedback markers, and we were doing
it to alter the brain to get people into pain
free states. Because everyone listening, pain does not happen in
the body. Pain only happens in the beta brain waves,

(38:37):
the signal to the body. That's why I've worked with
a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
On Pain's just that that that pathway being continually switched on. Right.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yes, like when I worked with people who have phantom limbs,
but they have pain in them. There's no limb there
to have pain, but we have to turn it off
at the brain level. Not at the and usually that
happens when you do a visualization of that event and
and get the brain to disassociate from it, then the
brain knows how to fix it. One thing about our brain,
it's designed to heal itself. But we have to get

(39:07):
in the right brain state. We have to feed it
the right You can't all think of bad diet. So
you got to eat right, you know, and you've got
to move and breathe. If you're not moving and breathing
and you're doing all these other things for your brain,
it's not going to work because we're designed to move
and breathe. Movement is life. So what we do is
we're moving. We're moving those brain frequencies every three to
four seconds.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
It's not like we're light all through the light on
the song.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
They're coordinated, so the sound whatever's happening in the right
ear is happening in the left eye, and vice versa.
Because we want to activate. And what we showed is
for the first three minutes. Have you ever seen the
on YouTube. You go there and you put in synchronizing
metronomes where a guy starts two hundred metronomes and when
he does that, it takes about three minutes for the
for every metronome to sink.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
They don't know why this happens.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
But if you've got two hundred metronomes, you started one
of them, they would all go through and they would sink,
and then about three minutes later, about three minutes later,
one of them would go out of sync and then
one would follow it. It would go through a cycle.
This is just something in the universe. It also happens
with with grandfather clocks. Well, every cell of your body
is like that metronome. But we found it takes about

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seven minutes to synchronize the hemispheres, right.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
So this is the hemispheric This is hemispheric synchronization. So
let's take a step back at puject for the listeners
because just to understand what's going on, so sore they
have some sort of glasses of peril that is then
transmitting light through LEDs and their wearing headphones at the

(40:38):
same time.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
The headphones have light.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
The headphones have light to go through the ears. Now
that that's that's interesting with that that goes directly into
the briin right.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Well, yeah, if we could we do some things with
the nose. But we found people didn't like to use
the you know, it was just but the the ears.
All the blood in your body goes through the years
every three to five minutes. Now, if we remember, we're
blood doping, So we're putting light energy in and that
light energy is being absorbed by the hemoglobin. It goes
into the cells. And imagine a little guy at your

(41:12):
cell level that's like a clock and every time he
reaches twelve o'clock it spits out an atp. Well, when
you add light energy, those cells actually spin around up
to thirty two times and we can measure that as
energy in the brain. So if we want to get you,
you can't get that by eating food. You can't even
get that by movement. Light is the best sory.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Let me get my head around this. You're saying that
that transmitting light into the years, and that light gets
into the hemoglobin in the red blood cells and.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Then it turns and it circulates. And what the way
the body works, it's always looking for that cell that's
about to die, that apoptosis to happen, and if you
can get there beforehand, it absorbs that light energy and
restarts the cred cycle. And the incredible thing they found
in science is the cell remembers what it was, it's
no longer ana cell, it's a new cell and creates neurogenesis.
That's what creates neuroplasticity. So this happens in sunlight if

(42:06):
we can get out and do it, but it's intensified
because we can now get more light energy then you
can get from the sun because we can now intensify
that light. So science is showing what we do naturally,
but it's adding to it if you want to, like
when we score people in the brain, we have a
zero to one hundred score that we do on the
energy of the brain, and our device measures that. If

(42:27):
they're below thirty on that measurement, it doesn't matter what
I do. The brain's not going to change until I
get it over thirty. So we actually have a light
helmet that they wear. We have a light bed that
has eighteen thousand LEDs. We have light pads they might wear.
We need to get more light into the system.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
And what's the freak with what's the wave length of
the light that's going in.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Well, we use four seventy nanimeter and six fifteen animeter
light and then but the.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Help we use exactly being red.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Blue is seventy And what we're doing is we try
to get.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
The mix of sunrise and sunset, so that mix.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
But if you if you are new units, at some
point we're going to be adding more infra red because
our light cap that we use, we're going to have
a strap for the brain tap where it gives you
in for red light because in order to get through
the skull, as.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
For our listeners to understand the length of the way
of length and the terms of the light determines how
far it's going to penetrate. So red light very very
good for the skin. If you've got teenagers with acne,
red light devices can do wonders for acne. Red light
is used for burns, it's used for wound healing, all

(43:39):
of that stuff. Where is near infra red light because
it's got a longer wave length penetrates through the skin,
can even penetrate through the bone, activates the mitochondria cytochrome
c oxides, which as you said earlier, generates a TP
and your mitochondria in yourselves and people might be thinking,
what the fuck are these two talking about? Is real?

(44:01):
Thecey is real, and we're now seeing and with using
near infrared light in the brain improvements and symptoms in
Alzheimer's disease and Parkinson's disease and because of the stimulation
of the mitochondria just through light that we can't see right.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
We have a big study going on right now at
Semino College in Florida that's based on a book that's
called Saving Your Brain, where we did a pilot's study.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Everybody in the study was off the.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Dementia series within six weeks, and then now when you
add in exercise and diet, it's even faster. So what
we're doing is now Seminal College is doing it with
one hundred people. We've had over eighty people go through
the protocol and it's very easy to do. You just
do brain tap three times a day and it increases
your brain voltage and every day it gets a little
bit better because every seventy two hours the nervous system

(44:53):
is going to try to reset. But if you can
interrupt that pattern, give it more energy, then it doesn't
ever go back to the old pattern. And it's like
riding a bike. Once you get up to speed, it's
not going to fall over. You know, we need to
get the brain up to speed. In this case, it's energy.
So what we're showing is now most people their brain
is toxic because the foods are eating and their sedentdary,

(45:14):
and they think they're supposed to get old and die.
But I've never heard of ancient culture that said, I
keep all the wisdom of the tribe with the youngsters
the people with the elders, right, So the elders have it.
So we must be doing something wrong with our lifestyle,
right because the elders help the tribal knowledge. Now unfortunately,
our tribal knowledge is.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Take them in the old people's homes.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
That's yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
So Patrick, getting back to brain tap, So to use
brain tap, I'm gonna lie on. I'm gonna pict your
device on which it's got air air muffs and it's
got eyeglasses of some sort. It's transmitting light and signed
in there is there any music going on?

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yes, we have music. We also have visualization because we
know that language actually changes three thousand two ener gene expressions.
When Bruce Lifton wrote his book Biology Belief, he changed
the way people think about that. So we also we
can do it without the headset. We have one hundred
thousand users that don't use the headset.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
You're actually essentially what you're doing is you're priming the
brand to then be more open to meditation, and you're
doing guided meditations. I had the only experience I've had
with something like this, I think it's thirty years old
or something like that's called the Gateway experience, which uses

(46:35):
biurnal baits and guided meditations and it's actually really col
but you're then taking that that sort of thing to
another level by adding light into it. Correct.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Yeah, when you think about Gateway, that was Silver. That
was a spinoff of Silver. So that was my dad taught.
So somebody got a better idea and they just basically
used more sounds than Silver did. Sl have only had
one sound, So you know, they're still around a lot
of people do civil millions of people. But it's it's
really old technology, but it's good.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
I mean, if you.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Haven't done anything, it's better than nothing, you know. So,
and it's all about exposing you to different environments to
keep you your neuroplasticity up, to keep the energy in
the brain up. If you if you the brain again
will shut down without use. It's it's just not gonna
That's why sedendary people. If you're you know, mass, mass
at motion tends to stay up motion, right, so we

(47:25):
need to we need to keep the body moving like
I'm standing up. I usually stand up at least ninety
percent of the time when I'm at work because I
need to sit too much. Being a psychologist, you know
you're sitting on your butt talking to people.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Setting is the worst thing that you can do for
your brain and the sales of your body. Pretty long setting,
that is right, not not short stuff. But let's get
back to brain top land. So is everything a program
a guided meditation with the light and the we have
we just do it independently with without meditation.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Right, we have we have over a thousand sessions that
are just music only with like for instance, when I
did the gamma training, we have we use sophigio frequencies
with that because we also use vibration through the years
to trigger the vagus nerve, so that light is pulsing
with no J frequencies, and then there's an overlay of
sophigio frequencies. We also have right frequencies. So all these

(48:17):
frequencies married. And what we've done is it's a algorithm
that I created that I that the brain will follow.
So there's music only like when you get to the point.
Most people can't do that right now. Their own thoughts
would shock them, you know, they say the way we
talk to ourselves most people you'd never talk to anybody
like that. But we're reading, so we've got to change
that internal dialogue. I always tell people your best thinking

(48:39):
brought you here. We need to upgrade your best thinking.
So that means listen to some there's a when you
contemplate on positive information and positive words, you actually change
your brain. And that's why, like people were religious to
get into reading the Bible or any other spiritual text,
it changes us because our body wants to mirror that.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
It wants to mirror that expression. So but we have
we if.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
You put into our our headset, you go, I want
to do alpha because I want to do some alpha training.
You'll get returned back to you hundreds of sessions just
on alpha in there different links of time. So let's
say you have ten minutes or fifteen minutes. We have
gamma sessions. We have every brainwave whatever you want to
train SMR. There's six primary brainwaves we train to and
the way it works is you start with number one

(49:24):
and you move through the ten series. It's kind of
gave me experience. So there's ten with that.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Ah right, okay, so we actually run through a series
interesting and then presumably there's like that some of those
alpha things will be for people who struggle with sleep. Well,
go into bed, stick the brand top on for ten
minutes or whatever, and that's going to put you because
it is physiologically impossible to sleep if you're in beta.

(49:52):
Y simple that we have.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
A training for that. But sooner we can get somebody
to delta, then they start take.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Them take them out of betas through alpha, through theta
into delta.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
And what's so important about sleep that most people don't
know is just falling asleep as fast as possible is
not good for the brain. If you unwind the brain
like a motor, you know. And so that's why you
want to go through the different brain waves. Then you
get to delta, and then you're going to cycle back through.
Every time you hit delta, you're going to have that
deep sleep score, but you're also going to open up

(50:26):
the Glei emphatic system.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
This is what cleans the brain.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
And then as you go back up you're going to
build those neurotransmitters, you're gonna go back down. We need
at least one hour of deep sleep and two hours
of rim sleep to really maximize your sleep. And it's
not about time in bed. A lot of people think
about that. Actually, all the studies that talk about longevity,
six and a half hours is the average.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
But you have to sleep efficiently.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Let's talk about the glymphatic system in the Brian So
a lot of people will not even be aware of this,
and that the well, a lot of people are aware
that are lymphatic system cleans out the toxins, but the
brain doesn't have a lymphatic system. And they discovered, I
don't know in the last couple of decades fifteen.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Imagine in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Before twenty fifteen, every physiological book, every book on the planet,
the lymphatic system stopped at the neck. Yeah, and then
during a sleep study a doctor realized there was something
going on in the brain. Now we learn in physiology
that anywhere there's a blood vessel, there's a lymph vessel.
But for some reason they left out the brain because
it's protected. But when we hit love, think of level four.

(51:37):
Sleep is you're you're working for the Ford Motor Company
and you want to you want to clean the line.
You're not going to everybody working on the line. So
some people have experienced this state by they call it
sleep paralysis. If you ever woke up at night and
head sleep paralysis, you actually woke up during level four sleep.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
I had that as a kid, and often people get
it when they're a kid, right, I remember, Jesus, I
was terrified, so terrified.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Usually you're not present for that, You're gone, you know.
But then that's when you get this little burst in
their microburst of detoxing. So if you don't get those,
that's why sleep is one of the reasons sleep is
important because we have to detach the brain so during
the day and there's a lot of metabolism. It doesn't
even mean somebody's eating poorly, just having a good life.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
You're going to have toxins in the brain just for metabolism.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
What people don't realize, Patrick, is is that aerobic metabolism
using oxygen to create atp there's waste byproducts which the
sale has to dump out and we have to get
rid of that and we use the lymphatic system. But
the Brian doesn't have one. And then they discovered, as
you said, about ten years ago, this glymphatic system, which

(52:47):
my understanding is that it works down the outside of
the cardiovascular system. That's a two way highway in your brain.
But very cool shit, and you'll this will play into
what you guys would doing. They only discovered I think
it was three or four months ago that they understood
that in deep sleep that's when you're neuron shrink and

(53:09):
dump their toxic waste products in. But they didn't know
how does that waste product get from the extracellular matrix
to the glymphatic system. And then some genius discovered that
your glial cells in deep sleep all vibrate, getting back
to your point about vibration, they vibrate with a certain
frequency and it washes the stuff through the cerebral spinal fluid,

(53:33):
the toxins and hitches around on your glymphatic system, goes
to the blood brain through the blood brain barrier and
drops into the lymphatic system like that is crazy shit.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Skull is a bunch of plates and it breathes.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
If it doesn't work, great, that's the pump sot A hendry.
Now the brain can so that's why like people doing
sac you're cranial or doing some kind of massage or
using light there beyond the brain. It opens up those
sutures so the body can work. And that's why breathing
is so important. Most people don't realize the limp system
really doesn't have a heart right, so we have to

(54:10):
that's where breathing comes in, or exercise getting into that
heavy breathing, so we get that limp system to work,
and the brain does it. Like you said, I tell people,
think of the glia cells. Like you went to a
networking party. You're shaking hands with everybody. At the end
of that party, you're gonna want to wash your hands, right,
So those tell they need to be cleansed. And that's
what That's what I'm talking about all the neurological work
during sleep, because now it's going to take everything you

(54:31):
experienced during the day. It's going to start compartmentalizing, organizing it.
Is this useful for the future? Is this not useful?
Because and then we wake up in the morning, hopefully
with a plan. You know, we got this one hundred
billion nerve, a processor that's ready to work for us.
But most people they hit the alarm. That's the worst
thing you can do too. That's probably worse than caffeine

(54:52):
because as soon as you hit the alarm, you went
into stress response and you trigger it.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I say to speaking all the time. If you get
woken up by an alarm clock this morning, you started
the day with a shock to your cardiovascar system right
in a candy.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Bar because the liver dumped twenty five grams of bluca
gut into the system. Now the lips is now, the
body goes what the hell's going on? And the average
person in America hits it three times. They need breakfasts
before they got in bed. I don't know anyone who has.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
So you're saying that that shot, well, that makes sense
actually because because.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Your body doesn't know that you're not being chased by
the tiger.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
It's going to give you a spike of stress hormones,
which dump blood sugar into your system because the body
thinks that you need energy to run away.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
And then they now they get up in the you know,
a Blanta in a donut and they drink of coffee. Yeah,
now they're never going to win that. We call that
a glycemic nightmare. You know, you're never going to win,
you know, And then people go, I just can't handle
the mornings.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
No, you didn't give yourself a chance.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
That's right, you've got shittar. You can't handle the shitar
this morning that you're creating, right.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
I tell people, once you get your brain functioning, you
won't need an alarm clock. But until you do, you should
set your alarm or your phone across the room and
put it on some beautiful music to wake you up.
You should celebrate the morning.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
And set and set a mental alarm clock for five
minutes before your alarm clock, so that you wake up
in in rem state the brain will actually compress. So
tell me the because we are we are running a
little bit out of time to go on with this
all there, So with the with using the brilliant tap,
let's just stay on sleep. Have you shown is there

(56:35):
any data? I'm sure you've got lots of of of
people giving you feedback.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
But is there any We did a research, yeah, sleep, come, yeah,
we did a We did a project with Australian coal
miners Western Australia, Burnaby, Australia.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
And what we did was we we and this was
one of the graduate student I'm in the dean of
Brain based Medicine a quantum university, so it's quantum physics,
and we talked about from meta. But one of our
students was in he was working for the coal mine.
He's a PhD, but he was going for a natural
medicine degree, and he said, what can I do? I said,
let's do a test with coal miners. Because they go
to work in the dark. They work in the dark

(57:12):
and leave in the dark. There's no circadian rhythm. We
found the average coal miner before we started the study.
We did a two week washout study, and you know,
they were in bed for ten hours a night. The
average coal miner got one minute of deep sleep and
no rim so they didn't sleep. They were in bed
for ten hours, so don't think of time in bed
and sleep. So we taught them. We took half of

(57:32):
them got to use the headset and half of them
only used the app. The group that used the headset,
within three weeks on the sleep Petrigraphy watch, they were
over seventy percent sleep scores, which was beating most people
in the world. Three weeks before that, they weren't getting
any sleep, but we were training their brain.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Now, how did they do that.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
We had to do the morning session because the morning
session is just as important as the evening session. Think
if you want to take a boat across the lake
and you're ten degrees off when you leave, you're going
to be thirty degrees off at the end. So you
got to get your brain right. That's SMR training. Now
you can do that through breathing too. So I don't
want the listeners don't to have to get brain tap,
but if you can do like psychological breathing that's there
where you breathe in deeply and let it out with

(58:11):
a sigh. Yes, And then they did the afternoon session.
They let us set up our equipment right inside the
coal mine, so the people in the studies when they
took their break, they got a brain break, a twenty
minute reset.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
So now if you can't do that, then you go
out and do the box breathing. That's probably the one
to do. So that's going to reset your nervous system too.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
I always say it frequency breathing something some so on
slow control breathing ryeah.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
And then at night we had them go home and
listen to just the app because we didn't have the
headsets for everybody. So when they went home, they did
that right before they went to sleep. Within six weeks,
every one of them in the study was getting above
eighty percent sleep scores and they didn't do anything else. Now,
if we'd have changed their diet would have been better,
if they got them exercising, it would have been better.

(58:55):
But of course when you're doing a study, you just
show now we published that paper. Okay, so almost all
of our studies, when we have thirty published papers, we
have twelve other published papers that don't have to do
with brain tap. They just have to do with using
our neurocheck to measure things. But every one of the studies,
the biggest thing they show is sleep improves.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Interesting and what other Because we all run out of
time here, Patrick, But what other use cases are there
for brilliant tap other than sleep, relaxation?

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Learning?

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Learning is a big one.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Like in Similar College, that's where we started with them,
with their golf team. The sports in America, almost every
sports team uses brain tap.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Actually in New Zealand, I worked with the team for netball.
It was the first time they ever beat the Australians.
I worked with them and I didn't know what netball was.
It was a crazy game they're telling me about, you know,
but they didn't they Now the team was using brain
tap at that time. It was called zin frames. It
was over ten years ago. But the sports teams use
it because your mindset is so important and your energy.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
You know.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
We showed that that the reason that professional sports, the
home team has an advantages. When you're in an airplane
for an hour, it's like being getting an X ray.
We showed them how it costs you energy to fly there. Now,
how are you You know, some of these guys don't
even know how to eat.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
They don't know what to do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
So they're they're feeling down and they go into candy
bar or something. You know it's gonna So sports is
a big thing for us, but learning. We've shown that
those teams, like the golf team and the softball team,
the basketball team, they have the highest GP in the
school using brain tap. So we've we have a we
have a school wide program going now and we have
probably twelve universities using it in school like Duke University

(01:00:37):
has something called Healthy Duke, which we created for their
students to help them become the anxiety at college and
things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
That's pretty cool shit. So what what are you excited
about for the future, what's on the horizon, what do
you think the potential is and and what other things
we got in the pipeline developments or additions.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Yeah, well we have, we have. We're always improving upon
brain tap, making it simple and easier to use, and
we're right now we just use blue light, but we
have we have in the lab RGB, which means we
can have full spectrum light because the frequencies of the
brain actually can be mirrored in color. So we're going
to add that piece to it. We also have a
skull brain skull cap with light. That's one of the

(01:01:19):
big things we're doing. But the biggest thing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Is that going to be near infra red.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Yes, right, so we get more brain energy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
You know, ours is very low energy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I mean it's ours is like microdosing. But if you
use one of these brain caps, it's like you're getting
the full dose and you know it. You should only
do it every four hours because you want the neuroplastic
change and then it's ready for the next one. So
but we do it usually. We recommend at least once
a day for people. You know, but I think that
the And we also do a lot with partnering with
other technologies, like if you came to our lab here

(01:01:50):
in New Bern, North Carolina, we have six thousand square
feet of biohacking equipment and we show how when you
when you integrate the brain with it, all that technology
works back.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
So you've done anything with heartrate variability.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Yes, that's that's the neurocheck. We we have heart rate
variability on steroids. What we did is because we partnered
with the person who has the patent one heart rate
variability in Russia. That's our partner. We're coming out with
an app that it would look like this, this little
thing here, something like this. We created our own little

(01:02:26):
pad like this, and now we have one professional use
it's four thousand dollars, but we're coming out with one
of these. It's only going to be three hundred dollars.
We can measure nine parameters of the nervous system in
five minutes and then.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
What is that place? Does that place somewhere on the check.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Your thumbs on it were most people they like or
ring and these kind of things.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
They're only sixty percent accurate.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
We've tested them in the lab against like the Shiva
machine and all sorts of big technologies that ours is
ninety percent. Our big unit that we have for clinical
use is one hundred percent. We've matched it with everything
out there, and but you're getting it from the heart
rate in between that r R function. Your body is
telling you sending codes to all the different parts of
your body and the Russians. I didn't invent it. All

(01:03:09):
I did was create some graphics that made it, that
made it nice. So when somebody sees the graphics, they
can see pre and post activities. Like if you want
to know if something's helping you, somebody tells me they
have a piece of equipment that's helping them. I said, well,
we can measure that like PMF for instance. It's not immediate.
It's like working out. After a workout, your heart reber

(01:03:29):
Billy goes down, but four hours later it's maximized. Right,
So we can tell people you're not going to get
the like brain deps right away. You get improvement. But
most of these biohacks, your body's got to reregulate because
of the stress, which is good stress. Stress is metic stress.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Right, Yeah, cool, Padrick, this has been awesome. More to
people more to people go to find out about your
the books that you've written and if they want to
get a brillant top device to presumably you have distribution
into Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Or hopefully oh yeah, yeah where distribute into all over
the world. We're in one hundred and six countries with
they can go to brain tap dot com and they
can see this. There's a fourteen day free trial, so
even before they buy the equipment, they can download the app.
Most people ninety percent people report back they have better
sleep than three nights.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
So that's one way to try test it on yourself,
and then of course you can buy the headset there.
It's available. If they want to follow me, just go
to Dr Patrick Porter. I'm on social media channels. I
have a lot of videos about it. And for books,
just go to Amazon or wherever you buy books from.
This is the new book that I have. It's called
brain Fitness Blueprint. It's coming out on October twenty first.
If they go to Brainfitness Blueprint dot com and buy

(01:04:38):
it from there, like from Amazon or wherever, then they
can get access to one thousand dollars free. I also
have a university called the Integrated Wellbeing Institute where we
teach doctors how to integrate not just brain tap, at
all different technologies. And there's a course there that I'm
going to give them for free that's well help them
to dive deeper into brain fitness and learn more about it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Very cool, awesome, Drick. This has been a turi force
around vibration and frequencies and light and all of that stuff.
So thank you very much, and hopefully I think probably
listeners will probably have to play this two or three
times to get their head around it, because there's a
lot of stuff in this, but very cool stuff. Be
it and keep doing what you're doing, as I'm sure

(01:05:19):
you will.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Yeah, thank you. That would be

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