March 21, 2024 • 63 mins
WARNING: THIS PROGRAM CLAIMS TO BE SUPPORTED BY RUSSIAN ADVERTISING. Season 3 : Episode VII
- Streamed Live in front of an International audience on Monday, July 30th, 2018 Featuring Theodore Skye Stouber Special appearance by David Coppa Feel The Peasant Revolution Band Variety Hour with Host Jeff Dodge will bring some of the world’s greatest musical talent, local writers & artists, producers & programmers and just plain old regular folk to our planet Earth’s attention. Also with topical sketches, stand-up comedy and live music.
- 00:01 "The Magic of Doug Henning" Jeff Dodge as Doug Henning - Dan Palodichuk as David Coppa Feel
- 03:20 "Magic" written by Ric Ocasek 1984 22:35 Featured Guest - Theodore Skye Stouber BodyVox http://bodyvox.com/bios NW Dance Project http://nwdanceproject.org/education/adult-classes/
- Oregon Ballet Theater https://www.obt.org/ PDX Contemporary Dance http://www.pdxcb.com/#pdx-contemporary-ballet
- 29:07 Skye Stouber Live Performance! music inspired by Ólafur Arnalds "Hands, be still"
- 42:11 "Synchronicity II" written by Sting 1983
- 48:43 Jeff gets a Ballet Lesson from Skye
- 57:05 "A Whiter Shade of Pale" written by Gary Brooker, Keith Reid, and Matthew Fisher 1967
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Hello, hello and welcome to the illusion of magic.
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I'm Doug Henning and I'm here to do some magic tricks for you.
Hocus Pocus, Wocus Locust.
It's magic, it's all an illusion.
Let's see who we have on the telephone here.
I believe we have someone calling.
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Oh, oh.
Let's try that again.
Dan calling for a show.
It's magic, it's an illusion.
Let's see what he has to say now.
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David who?
David Copperfield.
David Copperfield?
Are you involved with magic?
Of course.
I've been on many television shows for the last 35 years.
I've never even heard of you.
Have you heard of me?
I am Doug Henning, the illusionist of magic.
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Perhaps I have.
Perhaps in a parallel world.
I heard you hang out with that old president of ours, George Bush Senior.
Yeah.
Yes.
How did you guys come to meet yourselves?
Let me see.
As an illusionist, I...
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You made his wife disappear I heard.
Yes, and replaced her with a sentinel.
A sentinel?
What would you replace a wife with a sentinel for?
So David, I heard you tell this joke to the president.
How does the joke go?
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What's the famous illusionist called?
Oh, it would be Doug Henning.
No, it's David Copperfield.
I'm really disgusted by that.
I'm deeply offended by that.
That's gross.
You tell that to people?
That's disgusting.
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I'm going to hang up right now.
This is...
Watch what you say.
Do you know who I am?
I'm Doug Henning.
I've been doing this for a long time.
I do illusions.
And I don't have time for this.
It's disgusting.
I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
I'm going to pull the disappearing act.
And I'm going to pull into a little new magic.
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This is the kind of magic I'm used to.
Hello, this is Carl Sagan.
Carl Sagan.
Carl Sagan?
No.
Carl Sagan, what do you want?
What could you possibly want, Carl Sagan?
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Why?
I feel sort of like we need something.
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I feel like we need something.
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I really do enjoy that flavor, taste, and the Saffron Brothers downtown blend.
Taste the city coffee.
It always hits the spot.
It is delicious.
I'm your host, Jeff Dodge, and what we like to do is we like to bring people from all
walks of life to join us in this sort of a television interview format, but it's different
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because we're streaming across the internet.
So it's not television and there's no FCC requirements as far as I know of right now.
Speaking of which, we have with us the commander on harmonica, the bassist, Steven Sibila,
and of course Rockin' Rich Reese at the drum set running the whole thing.
How are you, Rich?
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I'm great, Jeff.
I just, I can't say enough for how I'm doing right now.
I heard you've been traveling around the world.
Well not that far around the world.
We stayed in the western hemisphere and the northern hemisphere, actually.
Was that the Primus trip?
Oh, no.
Well, that, you know, that was all the way out to East County, or as my shrink likes
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to call it, East Jesus.
East Jesus?
Yeah, that was out at the little place, I don't know if you've been, it's called Edgefield.
Okay, really?
Yeah.
I've never been to the Edgefield show yet.
I had never, I had been to a concert there in well over a decade.
I can see why people who aren't from here just go absolutely nuts when they see a place
like that.
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Really?
So if you're from here, you don't go as nuts?
That's right.
I mean, do you ever go to Kennedy School and just pretend you're not from here?
Um, yes, every time, because the service would make me really frustrated if I was from there.
Sure.
But just, you know, imagine if you were in Indiana and you found a place like that.
You'd think it was fantastic, right?
I mean, here, you know, it's just this place, it's owned by these guys from Beaverton who
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are getting rich off the subsidies for the, you know, the vintage buildings.
So we just, you know, we don't allow ourselves to enjoy it.
But if you were from Phoenix or something and you stumbled across a place like that,
well I think, you know, you'd think it was pretty great.
Well, I don't really remember spending much time in Phoenix, but Jamila and I were just
traveling through, what was it, what was that town by Flagstaff or something?
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Oh.
I could see them really getting into the Kennedy School.
Yeah.
There was a John Wayne tribute they had at this one restaurant with the big steaks, remember
that?
Oh.
Kingman, that's what it was.
Kingman, Arizona would be a huge fan of the McMinn-Om's.
My mother, who was a guest recently, apparently went to school with the McMinn-Om brothers.
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Oh, I didn't know that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Grade school or something like that.
What I have heard is that they don't suffer from an excess of humility.
Yeah.
She apparently, her and her sister were staying at the Gearhart one and I guess one of them
was there and he got angry at them and was banging on the wall next to them.
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Oh.
And of course kept laughing and giggling and creating more chaos.
Certainly.
Which is where that comes from for me, if anyone's wondering.
Well maybe he got one of his own sort of skunky beers and that just pissed him off because
now he knows how half the customers feel.
Oh, that beer is, yes.
Ruby is not bad, but yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways, the McMinn-Om's is a great establishment and after McMinn-Om's and the-
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And if they're watching.
The old crazy farm, wasn't it?
Wasn't it?
Oh yeah, it was the old poor farm previously.
So like back before we had social security and stuff like that, that's where sound guys
would go to retire.
Okay, right.
Right.
It's such a bummer because we have nowhere to go now.
That's true.
It's like-
Yeah.
I mean I got a house for Scott.
Obviously I got room for him at my place.
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Well that would be very generous of you considering that would be your fourth or fifth time now.
Yeah, yeah.
I got a couple of people who are running on their third time.
Actually you know what?
Katie just moved in so I've got-
That is, how is that going?
That's okay.
Yeah, she's got this, you know what really turned the tables on this one is she got this
gig editing the new biography of Vicatia.
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And so-
Oh right, yes.
After that happened I ran her credit again and determined that she finally qualified
to actually move in.
A qualified renter.
Yep.
Now she's got local presence now.
You know, I'll be able to do due diligence.
No, absolutely.
You can't trust-
Gilella does a credit check on me every year.
Yeah.
So probably as Stu hand the schedule over and determine whether or not you need to put
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a deposit down again.
Well no, the thing I have with dad's a different deal.
I owe him some and I owe a few people things.
But you know, you go into debt to make these things happen like French Digger Productions.
And I think that's why we started doing this show, right?
That's right.
Was to kind of help you crawl out of some of that.
It was way cheaper to do this than to actually go to all the energy of bringing the music
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to people.
It's just bringing the people to the energy and it's all on the internet and things like
that.
We have a great show today, by the way.
But before I get into that, I did want to ask you about the real trip.
You were in Norway, is that right?
Yeah, I went over to Norway with some family and we drove around.
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Have you been there before?
I had not been there before.
You know, it is an immensely expensive place to exist.
Okay.
Jamila's Norwegian.
Oh, okay.
Well I'm like 12 fifths Norwegian, we've determined.
So of course, Reese is not Norwegian.
You guys should take a trip over there sometime.
We want to.
It's just fantastic.
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We wanted to do an Irish Viking kind of thing.
Okay.
But we've been watching the Vikings, a wonderful TV show out there.
Sure.
Have you seen that at all?
No, but I've heard it's a...
Ragnar Lothbrok.
Oh, sure, sure.
So I've heard about that.
It sounds like a tremendous show.
Is there a lot of Ragnar homages there?
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Not really.
You know, I mean, the most probably impressive thing and this coming, you know, as an Oregonian,
they have a lot of trees and they don't have as many clear cuts as we do.
You know, they're probably a few hundred years behind in evolutionary thinking that are...
Well, they're just doing all this oil extraction a little bit to the south.
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That's probably why they're not harvesting as many as maybe they could.
But you know...
Is it Ikea harvests a lot of wood?
Well, that's Sweden.
And I think they take it...
Oh, the Swedes.
They pull a lot of that from some less advantaged countries.
But driving around, you know, we went into Bergen and just started cruising around.
We wanted to go to these old places where the family members were from.
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And so we're driving around in the outskirts.
And my nephew and I both noticed the same thing, is that it's driving around there.
It's kind of like driving around Oregon, but on steroids.
So if you can imagine, like if you've ever driven from like...
In the groves?
Well, no, just like you've got...
So the fjords, you know, they all have roads along the sides of them and then all these
big hills.
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It's kind of like if you've ever driven on 126 from Eugene to Florence or even just like
if you go over to Tillamook on Highway 6 and you go up and through the hills and then you
come down and then you're in that valley where there's water and there's cows and all that
stuff.
It's like that, but everything's way, way bigger and grander.
And the roads are immaculate.
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Really?
Yeah.
And I know some of our viewers out there, I know we have some people who swing right
and they're going to say, well, I heard the tax rates a whole lot higher over there.
So the people are suffering.
I actually looked it up while I was over there.
I looked at the average versus median net worth of individuals in Norway.
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And it's kind of complex, but their average net worth is lower than ours, but their median
net worth is higher than ours, which means they have...
States or Oregon?
United States.
And so what that means is they have less to go around, but they do a better job of distributing
it.
Right.
So they don't have as much to give out to their people, but they give out more to their
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people.
And they're super rich, end up doing just fine.
I see.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
I've heard of things like that happening.
Not in this country, but there was this country that had this...
I think his name was Roosevelt or something like that.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Apparently they had a high tax system and it worked pretty good and took care of their
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people.
I can't remember what country that was.
Well, you got all these motherfuckers wearing crosses talking about the old days, the good
old days, like the fifties and stuff.
And it's like, well, okay, well, do you want to go back to the 90% tax rate on rich people?
Because that's what it took.
And they're like, no, we don't want to do that.
Like, well, do you want to go back to better schools?
No, we don't want to do that.
You know, like the higher union membership.
Turns out all they miss is segregated restaurants.
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That is what they're talking about for the good old days.
Because we evolved.
We learned that the private sector really does take care of everyone.
Yeah.
You just let the market sort it out and then you hide all the losers.
I'm ready for horse drawn carriages again.
Hey, that's not a terrible idea.
A horse drawn carriage.
You know, a great conservative once said, would you rather die of cancer at 80 or typhoid
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fever at nine from the horse drawn carriages?
And I think the way my life's gone, I probably could go from the typhoid at nine, but.
I'd split the difference like traumatic shock death at 33 or something.
You know who else died at 33?
It's this guy had some kind of weird ideas and long hair and wore sandals like a hippie
dude, right?
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Wouldn't even keep all the fish to himself.
Yeah.
And did great things with wine to make wine out of anything.
He used to he'd piss those bartenders off, though.
He'd show up and just ask for a glass of water.
Right.
And then went off.
I mean, that was, you know, yeah, I was taking a cut on that.
Paul or something like that.
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But Paul, according to my girlfriend's dissertation, it would be Paul to take the cut on that one.
He was the one that basically invented.
We're going to we have a wonderful show for you tonight.
Scott Stalber is our guest.
He comes to us with with great art in his heart and a performance to blow our minds
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because we're still working on the song here.
But hopefully he'll be able to perform to it.
And it should be really fun.
But first, let's get to know Sky.
We're going to take a quick commercial and bring out Sky Stalber right after this break.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Sky Stalber in the house.
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Wow.
What an exciting moment we have here.
Sky, why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself.
Who is Sky Stalber?
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I'm actually Theodore Sky Stalber, so I'll start off with that.
I'm a Portland native.
Ballet dancer.
Dancer extraordinaire.
What got you into dance?
My parents told me it would make me a better baseball player.
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So you started with baseball.
What ages were you doing that?
I started playing baseball when I was about six.
Little league, T-ball.
Then I started dancing when I was 12.
Six years of baseball and then you find dance come to you.
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What was the first musical kind of thing?
Was it a song or was it a performance or was it the whole spiel that said I want to do
that?
Well, I guess I always liked dancing.
My mom is Nicaraguan, so I grew up around a lot of Latin music, clave.
What is clave?
That's an instrument, right?
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It's an instrument, but also a rhythm.
It's pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa.
Samba?
Is that the same kind of thing?
Similar.
Okay.
Similar.
I also grew up on a lot of Andean folk music, believe it or not.
One of my favorite ballets was actually done to Inti Limani.
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Had your mom introduced a lot of this to you as a young child then?
This was always kind of around you?
It was always around.
I think I always liked music and always wanted to move my body, but I never really started
seriously or training until I was a little bit older.
What part of Portland did you grow up in?
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Southwest, Multnomah Village.
Okay, and I guess our bass player Steve knows you from some incidents.
He said Wilson maybe.
Wilson High School, is that correct?
Briefly.
Oh, where did you end up at?
Well, after my freshman year of high school I dropped out and I went to go to the Houston
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Ballet School and then the San Francisco Ballet School.
Oh, so you went pro leagues and then done with that, I have a great friend of mine,
Paul West.
Oh, Rich.
Just like Tonya Harding.
Tonya Harding, did she drop out of high school?
Oh yeah, yeah.
You know, Stu did sound for a Tonya Harding gig and met her mother.
Oh.
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And she yelled at him.
I bet she did.
But I think that's a sign.
Did you ever meet Tonya Harding?
Not yet.
There's still time.
She's still out there and just got a big movie.
Well okay, moving forward.
So what year was it you decided you were done with that and you wanted to step it up and
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follow this path?
Well, the big, there are big ballet companies all around the country, New York City, Seattle,
San Francisco, Houston, Chicago.
Every summer they have a big summer camp for all the kids to come to and then they recruit
you out of there.
Good friend of mine and I went up to Seattle, auditioned for all the biggest companies and
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got full scholarships to all of them, which we did not expect.
It kept happening and happening and we were like, okay, well I guess this is serious.
Went to New York City that summer, came back and wanted nothing to do with academics and
so I struggled through that one year of high school and then just got out.
Man, it took me eight years to figure that out.
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I was, that's another story.
So what were the early years like then?
When did you get out of, onto your own, about 18?
Do you go travel with a troupe at that point or what were some of those experiences early
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on?
Did you go on tours of the country and the world or just the country?
Well so starting off you just go into school.
It was a pre-professional program, 16, wake up, dance for eight hours a day and you dance
with the professional company.
Did that for a while but I actually only made it until I was 18 and I hurt my knee and I've
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only just started dancing again in the past year.
So no touring for me.
My first, I just signed my first professional contract at 23, which is a little later than
I had expected.
So you're actually 23 right now.
Oh, he's such a kid, such a kid.
This is great.
Well, you do a little dance for us if we try and play some pre-prepared music for you.
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We're going to go to commercial break and we're thinking we check out a routine if you're
into that.
Is that all right?
That sounds good to me.
Awesome, Skye.
Skye Stalber is going to perform for us as soon as we come back.
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Wow, fabulous.
Thank you.
Oh, oh, that's not sad.
Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Wow, that's not sad.
Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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Wow, that's not sad.
Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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Oh, and we're back.
We're back with Sky Stalver.
Wow, that was fantastic.
Thank you.
What kind of themes were you playing with for that performance?
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That was an excerpt of dance that I won't name for copyright purposes.
Your copyright?
Do you have some original dances that you're working on?
I do have one.
It's more of a video composition, but I haven't done too much of making my own work just yet.
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No.
Okay, so this was inspired by others.
More of a recreator or a canvas.
People tell me what to do and then I do it.
Who were some of the artists that have influenced your style?
Starting off, I was really into classical ballet.
You've got Baryshnikov, Nureyev, and Alicia Alonso, the old guard.
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More recently, it's been more modernist works.
I just discovered what postmodernism is.
Don't worry, I don't care for it.
Pino Bausch, Alejandro Cerudo, Yuri Kilian, European names.
Nice.
Okay, so this piece was a recreation of others, sort of an amalgam of things.
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Is there any of your mother's influence with the Nicaraguan background?
Did that come into this particular piece or do you use it in other elements?
Probably other elements.
I think it comes out whenever anyone asks me to dance what's in me.
It's buried very deep, so that's always there.
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Do you visit Nicaragua or have you gone there before?
I have been, not lately.
There's a little bit of unrest, a lot of unrest.
What do you know about that?
Because I remember growing up when I was a young kid and there was all this US stuff
going on.
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Is that still kind of part of the colonial thing going on?
Well, I believe the socialists overthrew the fascists, supported by the United States
government.
Is that Ortega, right?
It is Ortega, and it's still Ortega, that's the thing.
His wife is vice president.
They've been in power-
That's like 40 years?
Yeah, 40 years.
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My mom was actually growing up there during the Sandinistas and the Contras.
Very recently there's been a lot of violence, but up for a few years it was pretty cool.
There was a moment then.
When I was, because when I'm so old that they used to teach social studies before they realized
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that it'll create critical thinkers and they don't want that.
Back when I was young they had all this El Salvador and Nicaragua conflict going on and
sort of skirting around how we were exactly involved.
Did it start the conflict in El Salvador or did it start in Nicaragua?
I couldn't tell you my history on that.
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On the very beginnings of the conflict.
You were not born yet and I was a sixth grade getting going, what is this?
I want my Ranger Rick.
Okay, well we'll leave it at that.
So it's not so hot a spot to vacation right now, but you still have family there I take
it?
Yes, yes, a little bit, yeah.
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What is the, well so what are some of the musical and ballet, I remember Mexico had
ballet folklorica with the big dresses and that kind of dance.
Is there any of that kind of sense that affects Nicaraguan ballet?
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Well I think the ballet folklorica is, actually I don't know the etymology of it, but it doesn't
necessarily correlate with classical European ballet.
It's sort of a dance, a word to describe the dance.
You know I'm not terribly familiar with the classic style of dance in Nicaragua I think.
But there was a European influence there too, the Spanish.
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Yes I mean salsa, bachata, merengue, but I think bachata is a little more Mexican if
I'm not mistaken.
But yeah, cumbia and cha cha cha, sabor.
Great great, I love it.
Okay and well so now you're 23, that seems like it was only a few years ago.
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Here you are, you're making your comeback and what are you looking forward to in the
future as far as what kind of, is there any local Portland area troops you're working
with or interested in working with?
In two weeks I'll start with Oregon Ballet Theatre.
So it's basically the ballet company of Portland.
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We have a couple of, we've got like six or seven shows in our season, it runs through
next June.
I did a performance with them in Alice in Wonderland, it was pretty cool and trippy
in February, as I was telling your wife I missed a costume change and fell on my face
and they still hired me.
So I must have done something right.
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You fell on cue I guess.
No I fell on my knee that I'd injured actually.
Oh no, no.
Now with that knee injury what is it, was it a ACL or?
Patellar tendon, started off as tendonitis and then being the young kid that I was I
want to push through it and then it turned chronic and then it still hurts but you know.
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I can tell you if you've done the right things you can, it will get better.
It's after 40 that the gravity really sets in, that's my experience but you got tons
of years ahead of you kid, I swear.
Anyways, well have you, you're starting with them in a couple weeks then.
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Okay and what other kinds of hobbies are you into, cooking or what kind of cooking?
I used to cook when I was in school in San Francisco and I hurt myself originally.
I started cooking for my roommates.
I used to bake a lot of bread, experiment with Latin flavors, delved into a little light
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curing of meats.
I just recently bought a 12 pound jamon serrano.
What is that?
It's a cured pork leg and I gave it to my girlfriend for her birthday.
Oh nice.
And me for her birthday.
Yourself and the pork leg.
Yes.
We can't turn that down.
The charcuterie though, the charcuterie is the interest, can't get too much.
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Exactly, exactly.
Well I think we're kind of interested in maybe rifling through a tune here.
We could do that.
You know, do you like the police?
I mean the band, not the officers that serve this fine city but there was a band called
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the police probably a little before your time with this guy named Sting?
Did you have some comments about that David, Sting?
We might come back to that but Sting, Sting was this guy that you know he was a pretty
good singer but he's really good at tantric sex too.
E-O, break it up, E-O, Sting.
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E-O, Sting?
Yeah, no I mean E-O, E-O.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's also you know he's on Dire Straits tune Money For Nothing.
Well and I was going to say that song and that video when they came, when he came out
and did that at Live Aid, it was the first time I found out you could like do a song
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differently than was recorded.
I'd never heard of that before and I was like wow that's a totally different version.
It goes something like this.
I can't remember.
It's something like Money For Nothing.
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Oh, I want my, I want my MTV.
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Oh, oh, oh, oh.
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Oh, oh, oh, oh.
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Oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh.
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Oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh.
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Oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh.
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That was just like the record.
Just like the record.
Yeah, this is a tasty fish.
It's brined in like a brand name soy sauce and cheap white wine, cheap sugar, salt, little
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herbs in there.
And, you know, it's brined overnight.
You know, let it dry out and form a nice little pellicle, they call it in the biz.
It's got a nice sort of protective skin on the membrane and then we'll smoke it for hours
on end and just, you know, drink beer and wait.
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Line cod, barbless hook.
Smoking to dry it out and give it a little smoky flavor.
Door to door, boat to boat.
Free range, line cod, barbless hook.
Chinooki.
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Oh, we're back, we're back.
Oh, it's so fun.
We've got Sky in the house and he's going to, he's volunteered to show this old dog some
new tricks.
So, Sky, please show me what, what can I do to get into ballet shape?
Okay, well, first you got to start with a quick hamstring stretch.
Okay.
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I want to do an active stretch rather than a passive stretch.
I know you're a little warmed up, but ideally you want to stretch the muscles while you're
using them rather than using a static object.
So we're just going to bend down and touch our toes.
Okay.
Just to start because they are, your hamstrings are holding you up.
You can bend your knees.
Oh, no, your knees are straight.
Don't bend your knees.
Knees are straight and you just bend over and you just touch your toes.
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Oh my God.
Stick your head between your feet like that.
Geez.
I don't think I, between my.
No, that's, that's perfect.
Oh lordy.
I don't think I've done that since I was seven.
All right.
Now we'll go into a, another step called a passe.
It's a position.
It's a classical ballet position where you take one leg and you go to the side and you
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point your toe and you put it like this by your knee.
That's the passe.
I've seen that before.
This is the passe and then you come into first position.
Okay.
So you can hold my hand actually.
We have a bar for support so you can.
Oh.
There you go.
That's the passe.
I just do that.
There you go.
There it is.
And then you take your hands and you go like this and that's a passe in first position.
There you go.
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That's it.
With your hands down like this.
And then you might go to fifth position with your arms all the way.
David, are you getting this?
I'm doing fifth position right now.
Yes.
That's fifth position.
Oh, this is wonderful.
I think I can do this.
Okay.
So next thing we're going to do to work on our flexibility, you take your hand, take
your heel of your hand.
Okay.
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And your foot.
Same hand, same foot.
And you just take it all the way out here.
So you're just going to take your leg straight.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Do that again.
You're going to take it straight and you're going to straighten both legs.
I don't, isn't there an age limit on that?
All right, all right.
I'm going to try it.
I'm going to try it.
You probably need to take a little support there.
Yep.
I'm getting everything at this point.
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Goal!
Oh!
Oh!
Oh!
You know, you're right.
There wasn't an age limit on that one.
Actually, I forgot to mention.
I used to play some hoops.
I felt this before.
This is a groin pull, I think.
We're going to come right back.
We'll be right back.
Ow!
Oh my God.
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All right!
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Oh, and we're back. We're back. Sky, it has been a pleasure having you here. I was told
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by Steve that when we were, one of your earliest childhood memories involves the Portland Trail
Blazers. Do you want to describe that a little? Well, was it 99 and 2000? Steve? It was basically
91 to 2000. My recollects. The Kobe and Shaq beating the Blazers in the Western Conference
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Finals had a little dial TV. It was color, but there were only 12 channels on it. Watching
them beat the Blazers was one of the first things I remember. Wow. Yeah. That was, I
have two memories of the Blazers getting beaten by the Lakers. There was that horrible 2001,
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but there was also another one in 91. Do you fellas remember that? It was Magic Johnson's
team. Uncle Cliffy. And they, he finger rolled the ball out of bounds. Do you remember that?
And time went off the clock and they won and then they went on to give Chicago their first
title. But that was the year we would have had a home court. We had like 60 wins out
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here or something like that. Anyways, that's the first LA tragedy. But then the one you
remember is when they wouldn't, you know, they call it one way on sub bonus and just
let Shaq bowl them over. That final quarter is, I guess if you want to know more about
this, if you Google fourth quarter meltdown, this game will probably come up. I haven't
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Googled it myself, but I imagine if you did that it probably would. No, I have. It comes
right up. Comes right up. Who were your favorite players on that team? Arvita Subbonis. Scotty
Pippen didn't know he was a bowl. No one ever told me, but growing up he was one of my favorite
players. You're kidding me. You thought he was a blazer. Wow. Mike Piazza also thought
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he was a Met. Apparently he's a Dodger. I didn't know. I invited him to my Bar Mitzvah
actually. That's great. So you're Jewish and Nicaraguan. Jewspanic. Jewspanic. Now what
is that experience like? Is that come, were both your parents that way or is that one's
the other? And so that must be an exciting time for the families get together. Yeah.
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Yeah. My dad's from Brooklyn, Long Island. My mom's from Nicaragua. She let him raise
us Jewish. My Bar Mitzvah was the last time I actually ever went to a synagogue though.
I hear that's kind of normal. A lot of times Catholics that baptism is all we get. I was
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personally pronounced on the first confession, but you probably saw a little bit of that
on the Nicaraguan side, right? I think my mom was raised Baptist, but no religion ever
permeated that. But it actually turns out a hotbed of modern dances in Israel now. So
I'm considering rediscovering my faith. Can you do dual citizenship with that? Yeah, I'm
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pretty sure I can. Oh, I see an angle. That's great. That's great. Well, Sky, it has been
wonderful having you. Is there anything people should be looking forward to aside from you
joining the ballet in the next couple of weeks here? Is there any upcoming shows or events
you want to promote? Yeah, I'll just say a few. Body Box, Northwest Dance Project, Oregon
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Ballet Theater, PDX Contemporary Dance, all great local dance troupes to keep your eyes
out for. Cool. And we'll put some links that you recommend into this, into the syndicated
version as the word is syndicated broadcast. But as we wind things down here, this is kind
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of the time of the hour where we didn't really get to do this last month because I was too
busy thinking about the class of 1988, which is what I graduated from. And this is our
30th anniversary this year. And we didn't really have a party. You're looking at it.
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This is the party. We had a great 20th and we thought we'd leave it at that. But, you
know, I also like it this part of the show, like to kind of, you're talking about Ortegas
and how they run things. You know, this Wheeler guy that's our mayor right now, he kind of
reminds me of a young Danny Ortega, I have to say. He's got this pie in the sky image
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about how things are going to work. He's got this, oh, hey, it's my lovely wife, Jamila.
Hi honey, what's up?
Hey, say goodnight Jeff.
Oh, alright. Goodnight Jeff.
One, two, three, four.
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Good night.
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Good night.
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Good night.
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Good night.
Hello, hello and welcome to the illusion of magic.
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I'm Doug Henning and I'm here to do some magic tricks for you.
Hocus Pocus, Wocus Locust.
It's magic, it's all an illusion.
Let's see who we have on the telephone here.
I believe we have someone calling.
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Oh, oh.
Let's try that again.
Dan calling for a show.
It's magic, it's an illusion.
Let's see what he has to say now.
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David who?
David Copperfield.
David Copperfield?
Are you involved with magic?
Of course.
I've been on many television shows for the last 35 years.
I've never even heard of you.
Have you heard of me?
I am Doug Henning, the illusionist of magic.
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Perhaps I have.
Perhaps in a parallel world.
I heard you hang out with that old president of ours, George Bush Senior.
Yeah.
Yes.
How did you guys come to meet yourselves?
Let me see.
As an illusionist, I...
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You made his wife disappear I heard.
Yes, and replaced her with a sentinel.
A sentinel?
What would you replace a wife with a sentinel for?
So David, I heard you tell this joke to the president.
How does the joke go?
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What's the famous illusionist called?
Oh, it would be Doug Henning.
No, it's David Copperfield.
I'm really disgusted by that.
I'm deeply offended by that.
That's gross.
You tell that to people?
That's disgusting.
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I'm going to hang up right now.
This is...
Watch what you say.
Do you know who I am?
I'm Doug Henning.
I've been doing this for a long time.
I do illusions.
And I don't have time for this.
It's disgusting.
I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
I'm going to pull the disappearing act.
And I'm going to pull into a little new magic.
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This is the kind of magic I'm used to.
Hello, this is Carl Sagan.
Carl Sagan.
Carl Sagan?
No.
Carl Sagan, what do you want?
What could you possibly want, Carl Sagan?
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Why?
I feel sort of like we need something.
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I feel like we need something.
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I feel like we need something.
I feel like we need something.
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I feel like we need something.
I feel like we need something.
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I feel like we need something.
I feel like we need something.
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I feel like we need something.
I feel like we need something.
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I feel like we need something.
I feel like we need something.
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I feel like we need something.
I feel like we need something.
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I feel like we need something.
I feel like we need something.
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I feel like we need something.
I feel like we need something.
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I feel like we need something.
I feel like we need something.
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I feel like we need something.
I feel like we need something.
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I feel like we need something.
I feel like we need something.
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I feel like we need something.
I feel like we need something.
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I feel like we need something.
I feel like we need something.
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I really do enjoy that flavor, taste, and the Saffron Brothers downtown blend.
Taste the city coffee.
It always hits the spot.
It is delicious.
I'm your host, Jeff Dodge, and what we like to do is we like to bring people from all
walks of life to join us in this sort of a television interview format, but it's different
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because we're streaming across the internet.
So it's not television and there's no FCC requirements as far as I know of right now.
Speaking of which, we have with us the commander on harmonica, the bassist, Steven Sibila,
and of course Rockin' Rich Reese at the drum set running the whole thing.
How are you, Rich?
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I'm great, Jeff.
I just, I can't say enough for how I'm doing right now.
I heard you've been traveling around the world.
Well not that far around the world.
We stayed in the western hemisphere and the northern hemisphere, actually.
Was that the Primus trip?
Oh, no.
Well, that, you know, that was all the way out to East County, or as my shrink likes
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to call it, East Jesus.
East Jesus?
Yeah, that was out at the little place, I don't know if you've been, it's called Edgefield.
Okay, really?
Yeah.
I've never been to the Edgefield show yet.
I had never, I had been to a concert there in well over a decade.
I can see why people who aren't from here just go absolutely nuts when they see a place
like that.
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Really?
So if you're from here, you don't go as nuts?
That's right.
I mean, do you ever go to Kennedy School and just pretend you're not from here?
Um, yes, every time, because the service would make me really frustrated if I was from there.
Sure.
But just, you know, imagine if you were in Indiana and you found a place like that.
You'd think it was fantastic, right?
I mean, here, you know, it's just this place, it's owned by these guys from Beaverton who
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are getting rich off the subsidies for the, you know, the vintage buildings.
So we just, you know, we don't allow ourselves to enjoy it.
But if you were from Phoenix or something and you stumbled across a place like that,
well I think, you know, you'd think it was pretty great.
Well, I don't really remember spending much time in Phoenix, but Jamila and I were just
traveling through, what was it, what was that town by Flagstaff or something?
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Oh.
I could see them really getting into the Kennedy School.
Yeah.
There was a John Wayne tribute they had at this one restaurant with the big steaks, remember
that?
Oh.
Kingman, that's what it was.
Kingman, Arizona would be a huge fan of the McMinn-Om's.
My mother, who was a guest recently, apparently went to school with the McMinn-Om brothers.
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Oh, I didn't know that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Grade school or something like that.
What I have heard is that they don't suffer from an excess of humility.
Yeah.
She apparently, her and her sister were staying at the Gearhart one and I guess one of them
was there and he got angry at them and was banging on the wall next to them.
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Oh.
And of course kept laughing and giggling and creating more chaos.
Certainly.
Which is where that comes from for me, if anyone's wondering.
Well maybe he got one of his own sort of skunky beers and that just pissed him off because
now he knows how half the customers feel.
Oh, that beer is, yes.
Ruby is not bad, but yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways, the McMinn-Om's is a great establishment and after McMinn-Om's and the-
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And if they're watching.
The old crazy farm, wasn't it?
Wasn't it?
Oh yeah, it was the old poor farm previously.
So like back before we had social security and stuff like that, that's where sound guys
would go to retire.
Okay, right.
Right.
It's such a bummer because we have nowhere to go now.
That's true.
It's like-
Yeah.
I mean I got a house for Scott.
Obviously I got room for him at my place.
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Well that would be very generous of you considering that would be your fourth or fifth time now.
Yeah, yeah.
I got a couple of people who are running on their third time.
Actually you know what?
Katie just moved in so I've got-
That is, how is that going?
That's okay.
Yeah, she's got this, you know what really turned the tables on this one is she got this
gig editing the new biography of Vicatia.
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And so-
Oh right, yes.
After that happened I ran her credit again and determined that she finally qualified
to actually move in.
A qualified renter.
Yep.
Now she's got local presence now.
You know, I'll be able to do due diligence.
No, absolutely.
You can't trust-
Gilella does a credit check on me every year.
Yeah.
So probably as Stu hand the schedule over and determine whether or not you need to put
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a deposit down again.
Well no, the thing I have with dad's a different deal.
I owe him some and I owe a few people things.
But you know, you go into debt to make these things happen like French Digger Productions.
And I think that's why we started doing this show, right?
That's right.
Was to kind of help you crawl out of some of that.
It was way cheaper to do this than to actually go to all the energy of bringing the music
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to people.
It's just bringing the people to the energy and it's all on the internet and things like
that.
We have a great show today, by the way.
But before I get into that, I did want to ask you about the real trip.
You were in Norway, is that right?
Yeah, I went over to Norway with some family and we drove around.
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Have you been there before?
I had not been there before.
You know, it is an immensely expensive place to exist.
Okay.
Jamila's Norwegian.
Oh, okay.
Well I'm like 12 fifths Norwegian, we've determined.
So of course, Reese is not Norwegian.
You guys should take a trip over there sometime.
We want to.
It's just fantastic.
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We wanted to do an Irish Viking kind of thing.
Okay.
But we've been watching the Vikings, a wonderful TV show out there.
Sure.
Have you seen that at all?
No, but I've heard it's a...
Ragnar Lothbrok.
Oh, sure, sure.
So I've heard about that.
It sounds like a tremendous show.
Is there a lot of Ragnar homages there?
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Not really.
You know, I mean, the most probably impressive thing and this coming, you know, as an Oregonian,
they have a lot of trees and they don't have as many clear cuts as we do.
You know, they're probably a few hundred years behind in evolutionary thinking that are...
Well, they're just doing all this oil extraction a little bit to the south.
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That's probably why they're not harvesting as many as maybe they could.
But you know...
Is it Ikea harvests a lot of wood?
Well, that's Sweden.
And I think they take it...
Oh, the Swedes.
They pull a lot of that from some less advantaged countries.
But driving around, you know, we went into Bergen and just started cruising around.
We wanted to go to these old places where the family members were from.
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And so we're driving around in the outskirts.
And my nephew and I both noticed the same thing, is that it's driving around there.
It's kind of like driving around Oregon, but on steroids.
So if you can imagine, like if you've ever driven from like...
In the groves?
Well, no, just like you've got...
So the fjords, you know, they all have roads along the sides of them and then all these
big hills.
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It's kind of like if you've ever driven on 126 from Eugene to Florence or even just like
if you go over to Tillamook on Highway 6 and you go up and through the hills and then you
come down and then you're in that valley where there's water and there's cows and all that
stuff.
It's like that, but everything's way, way bigger and grander.
And the roads are immaculate.
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Really?
Yeah.
And I know some of our viewers out there, I know we have some people who swing right
and they're going to say, well, I heard the tax rates a whole lot higher over there.
So the people are suffering.
I actually looked it up while I was over there.
I looked at the average versus median net worth of individuals in Norway.
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And it's kind of complex, but their average net worth is lower than ours, but their median
net worth is higher than ours, which means they have...
States or Oregon?
United States.
And so what that means is they have less to go around, but they do a better job of distributing
it.
Right.
So they don't have as much to give out to their people, but they give out more to their
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people.
And they're super rich, end up doing just fine.
I see.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
I've heard of things like that happening.
Not in this country, but there was this country that had this...
I think his name was Roosevelt or something like that.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Apparently they had a high tax system and it worked pretty good and took care of their
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people.
I can't remember what country that was.
Well, you got all these motherfuckers wearing crosses talking about the old days, the good
old days, like the fifties and stuff.
And it's like, well, okay, well, do you want to go back to the 90% tax rate on rich people?
Because that's what it took.
And they're like, no, we don't want to do that.
Like, well, do you want to go back to better schools?
No, we don't want to do that.
You know, like the higher union membership.
Turns out all they miss is segregated restaurants.
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That is what they're talking about for the good old days.
Because we evolved.
We learned that the private sector really does take care of everyone.
Yeah.
You just let the market sort it out and then you hide all the losers.
I'm ready for horse drawn carriages again.
Hey, that's not a terrible idea.
A horse drawn carriage.
You know, a great conservative once said, would you rather die of cancer at 80 or typhoid
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fever at nine from the horse drawn carriages?
And I think the way my life's gone, I probably could go from the typhoid at nine, but.
I'd split the difference like traumatic shock death at 33 or something.
You know who else died at 33?
It's this guy had some kind of weird ideas and long hair and wore sandals like a hippie
dude, right?
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Wouldn't even keep all the fish to himself.
Yeah.
And did great things with wine to make wine out of anything.
He used to he'd piss those bartenders off, though.
He'd show up and just ask for a glass of water.
Right.
And then went off.
I mean, that was, you know, yeah, I was taking a cut on that.
Paul or something like that.
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But Paul, according to my girlfriend's dissertation, it would be Paul to take the cut on that one.
He was the one that basically invented.
We're going to we have a wonderful show for you tonight.
Scott Stalber is our guest.
He comes to us with with great art in his heart and a performance to blow our minds
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because we're still working on the song here.
But hopefully he'll be able to perform to it.
And it should be really fun.
But first, let's get to know Sky.
We're going to take a quick commercial and bring out Sky Stalber right after this break.
Stay tuned and don't miss the Peasant Revolution Band Variety Hour with Jeff Tosh.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Sky Stalber in the house.
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Wow.
What an exciting moment we have here.
Sky, why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself.
Who is Sky Stalber?
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I'm actually Theodore Sky Stalber, so I'll start off with that.
I'm a Portland native.
Ballet dancer.
Dancer extraordinaire.
What got you into dance?
My parents told me it would make me a better baseball player.
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So you started with baseball.
What ages were you doing that?
I started playing baseball when I was about six.
Little league, T-ball.
Then I started dancing when I was 12.
Six years of baseball and then you find dance come to you.
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What was the first musical kind of thing?
Was it a song or was it a performance or was it the whole spiel that said I want to do
that?
Well, I guess I always liked dancing.
My mom is Nicaraguan, so I grew up around a lot of Latin music, clave.
What is clave?
That's an instrument, right?
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It's an instrument, but also a rhythm.
It's pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa, pa.
Samba?
Is that the same kind of thing?
Similar.
Okay.
Similar.
I also grew up on a lot of Andean folk music, believe it or not.
One of my favorite ballets was actually done to Inti Limani.
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Had your mom introduced a lot of this to you as a young child then?
This was always kind of around you?
It was always around.
I think I always liked music and always wanted to move my body, but I never really started
seriously or training until I was a little bit older.
What part of Portland did you grow up in?
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Southwest, Multnomah Village.
Okay, and I guess our bass player Steve knows you from some incidents.
He said Wilson maybe.
Wilson High School, is that correct?
Briefly.
Oh, where did you end up at?
Well, after my freshman year of high school I dropped out and I went to go to the Houston
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Ballet School and then the San Francisco Ballet School.
Oh, so you went pro leagues and then done with that, I have a great friend of mine,
Paul West.
Oh, Rich.
Just like Tonya Harding.
Tonya Harding, did she drop out of high school?
Oh yeah, yeah.
You know, Stu did sound for a Tonya Harding gig and met her mother.
Oh.
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And she yelled at him.
I bet she did.
But I think that's a sign.
Did you ever meet Tonya Harding?
Not yet.
There's still time.
She's still out there and just got a big movie.
Well okay, moving forward.
So what year was it you decided you were done with that and you wanted to step it up and
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follow this path?
Well, the big, there are big ballet companies all around the country, New York City, Seattle,
San Francisco, Houston, Chicago.
Every summer they have a big summer camp for all the kids to come to and then they recruit
you out of there.
Good friend of mine and I went up to Seattle, auditioned for all the biggest companies and
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got full scholarships to all of them, which we did not expect.
It kept happening and happening and we were like, okay, well I guess this is serious.
Went to New York City that summer, came back and wanted nothing to do with academics and
so I struggled through that one year of high school and then just got out.
Man, it took me eight years to figure that out.
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I was, that's another story.
So what were the early years like then?
When did you get out of, onto your own, about 18?
Do you go travel with a troupe at that point or what were some of those experiences early
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on?
Did you go on tours of the country and the world or just the country?
Well so starting off you just go into school.
It was a pre-professional program, 16, wake up, dance for eight hours a day and you dance
with the professional company.
Did that for a while but I actually only made it until I was 18 and I hurt my knee and I've
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only just started dancing again in the past year.
So no touring for me.
My first, I just signed my first professional contract at 23, which is a little later than
I had expected.
So you're actually 23 right now.
Oh, he's such a kid, such a kid.
This is great.
Well, you do a little dance for us if we try and play some pre-prepared music for you.
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We're going to go to commercial break and we're thinking we check out a routine if you're
into that.
Is that all right?
That sounds good to me.
Awesome, Skye.
Skye Stalber is going to perform for us as soon as we come back.
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Oh, and we're back.
We're back with Sky Stalver.
Wow, that was fantastic.
Thank you.
What kind of themes were you playing with for that performance?
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That was an excerpt of dance that I won't name for copyright purposes.
Your copyright?
Do you have some original dances that you're working on?
I do have one.
It's more of a video composition, but I haven't done too much of making my own work just yet.
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No.
Okay, so this was inspired by others.
More of a recreator or a canvas.
People tell me what to do and then I do it.
Who were some of the artists that have influenced your style?
Starting off, I was really into classical ballet.
You've got Baryshnikov, Nureyev, and Alicia Alonso, the old guard.
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More recently, it's been more modernist works.
I just discovered what postmodernism is.
Don't worry, I don't care for it.
Pino Bausch, Alejandro Cerudo, Yuri Kilian, European names.
Nice.
Okay, so this piece was a recreation of others, sort of an amalgam of things.
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Is there any of your mother's influence with the Nicaraguan background?
Did that come into this particular piece or do you use it in other elements?
Probably other elements.
I think it comes out whenever anyone asks me to dance what's in me.
It's buried very deep, so that's always there.
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Do you visit Nicaragua or have you gone there before?
I have been, not lately.
There's a little bit of unrest, a lot of unrest.
What do you know about that?
Because I remember growing up when I was a young kid and there was all this US stuff
going on.
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Is that still kind of part of the colonial thing going on?
Well, I believe the socialists overthrew the fascists, supported by the United States
government.
Is that Ortega, right?
It is Ortega, and it's still Ortega, that's the thing.
His wife is vice president.
They've been in power-
That's like 40 years?
Yeah, 40 years.
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My mom was actually growing up there during the Sandinistas and the Contras.
Very recently there's been a lot of violence, but up for a few years it was pretty cool.
There was a moment then.
When I was, because when I'm so old that they used to teach social studies before they realized
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that it'll create critical thinkers and they don't want that.
Back when I was young they had all this El Salvador and Nicaragua conflict going on and
sort of skirting around how we were exactly involved.
Did it start the conflict in El Salvador or did it start in Nicaragua?
I couldn't tell you my history on that.
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On the very beginnings of the conflict.
You were not born yet and I was a sixth grade getting going, what is this?
I want my Ranger Rick.
Okay, well we'll leave it at that.
So it's not so hot a spot to vacation right now, but you still have family there I take
it?
Yes, yes, a little bit, yeah.
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What is the, well so what are some of the musical and ballet, I remember Mexico had
ballet folklorica with the big dresses and that kind of dance.
Is there any of that kind of sense that affects Nicaraguan ballet?
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Well I think the ballet folklorica is, actually I don't know the etymology of it, but it doesn't
necessarily correlate with classical European ballet.
It's sort of a dance, a word to describe the dance.
You know I'm not terribly familiar with the classic style of dance in Nicaragua I think.
But there was a European influence there too, the Spanish.
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Yes I mean salsa, bachata, merengue, but I think bachata is a little more Mexican if
I'm not mistaken.
But yeah, cumbia and cha cha cha, sabor.
Great great, I love it.
Okay and well so now you're 23, that seems like it was only a few years ago.
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Here you are, you're making your comeback and what are you looking forward to in the
future as far as what kind of, is there any local Portland area troops you're working
with or interested in working with?
In two weeks I'll start with Oregon Ballet Theatre.
So it's basically the ballet company of Portland.
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We have a couple of, we've got like six or seven shows in our season, it runs through
next June.
I did a performance with them in Alice in Wonderland, it was pretty cool and trippy
in February, as I was telling your wife I missed a costume change and fell on my face
and they still hired me.
So I must have done something right.
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You fell on cue I guess.
No I fell on my knee that I'd injured actually.
Oh no, no.
Now with that knee injury what is it, was it a ACL or?
Patellar tendon, started off as tendonitis and then being the young kid that I was I
want to push through it and then it turned chronic and then it still hurts but you know.
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I can tell you if you've done the right things you can, it will get better.
It's after 40 that the gravity really sets in, that's my experience but you got tons
of years ahead of you kid, I swear.
Anyways, well have you, you're starting with them in a couple weeks then.
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Okay and what other kinds of hobbies are you into, cooking or what kind of cooking?
I used to cook when I was in school in San Francisco and I hurt myself originally.
I started cooking for my roommates.
I used to bake a lot of bread, experiment with Latin flavors, delved into a little light
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curing of meats.
I just recently bought a 12 pound jamon serrano.
What is that?
It's a cured pork leg and I gave it to my girlfriend for her birthday.
Oh nice.
And me for her birthday.
Yourself and the pork leg.
Yes.
We can't turn that down.
The charcuterie though, the charcuterie is the interest, can't get too much.
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Exactly, exactly.
Well I think we're kind of interested in maybe rifling through a tune here.
We could do that.
You know, do you like the police?
I mean the band, not the officers that serve this fine city but there was a band called
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the police probably a little before your time with this guy named Sting?
Did you have some comments about that David, Sting?
We might come back to that but Sting, Sting was this guy that you know he was a pretty
good singer but he's really good at tantric sex too.
E-O, break it up, E-O, Sting.
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E-O, Sting?
Yeah, no I mean E-O, E-O.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's also you know he's on Dire Straits tune Money For Nothing.
Well and I was going to say that song and that video when they came, when he came out
and did that at Live Aid, it was the first time I found out you could like do a song
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differently than was recorded.
I'd never heard of that before and I was like wow that's a totally different version.
It goes something like this.
I can't remember.
It's something like Money For Nothing.
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Oh, I want my, I want my MTV.
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Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
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Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
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Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
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Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
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Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
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Oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh.
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Oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh.
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Oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh.
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Oh, oh, oh.
Oh, oh, oh.
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That was just like the record.
Just like the record.
Yeah, this is a tasty fish.
It's brined in like a brand name soy sauce and cheap white wine, cheap sugar, salt, little
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herbs in there.
And, you know, it's brined overnight.
You know, let it dry out and form a nice little pellicle, they call it in the biz.
It's got a nice sort of protective skin on the membrane and then we'll smoke it for hours
on end and just, you know, drink beer and wait.
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Line cod, barbless hook.
Smoking to dry it out and give it a little smoky flavor.
Door to door, boat to boat.
Free range, line cod, barbless hook.
Chinooki.
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Oh, we're back, we're back.
Oh, it's so fun.
We've got Sky in the house and he's going to, he's volunteered to show this old dog some
new tricks.
So, Sky, please show me what, what can I do to get into ballet shape?
Okay, well, first you got to start with a quick hamstring stretch.
Okay.
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I want to do an active stretch rather than a passive stretch.
I know you're a little warmed up, but ideally you want to stretch the muscles while you're
using them rather than using a static object.
So we're just going to bend down and touch our toes.
Okay.
Just to start because they are, your hamstrings are holding you up.
You can bend your knees.
Oh, no, your knees are straight.
Don't bend your knees.
Knees are straight and you just bend over and you just touch your toes.
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Oh my God.
Stick your head between your feet like that.
Geez.
I don't think I, between my.
No, that's, that's perfect.
Oh lordy.
I don't think I've done that since I was seven.
All right.
Now we'll go into a, another step called a passe.
It's a position.
It's a classical ballet position where you take one leg and you go to the side and you
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point your toe and you put it like this by your knee.
That's the passe.
I've seen that before.
This is the passe and then you come into first position.
Okay.
So you can hold my hand actually.
We have a bar for support so you can.
Oh.
There you go.
That's the passe.
I just do that.
There you go.
There it is.
And then you take your hands and you go like this and that's a passe in first position.
There you go.
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That's it.
With your hands down like this.
And then you might go to fifth position with your arms all the way.
David, are you getting this?
I'm doing fifth position right now.
Yes.
That's fifth position.
Oh, this is wonderful.
I think I can do this.
Okay.
So next thing we're going to do to work on our flexibility, you take your hand, take
your heel of your hand.
Okay.
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And your foot.
Same hand, same foot.
And you just take it all the way out here.
So you're just going to take your leg straight.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Do that again.
You're going to take it straight and you're going to straighten both legs.
I don't, isn't there an age limit on that?
All right, all right.
I'm going to try it.
I'm going to try it.
You probably need to take a little support there.
Yep.
I'm getting everything at this point.
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Goal!
Oh!
Oh!
Oh!
You know, you're right.
There wasn't an age limit on that one.
Actually, I forgot to mention.
I used to play some hoops.
I felt this before.
This is a groin pull, I think.
We're going to come right back.
We'll be right back.
Ow!
Oh my God.
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All right!
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Oh, and we're back. We're back. Sky, it has been a pleasure having you here. I was told
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by Steve that when we were, one of your earliest childhood memories involves the Portland Trail
Blazers. Do you want to describe that a little? Well, was it 99 and 2000? Steve? It was basically
91 to 2000. My recollects. The Kobe and Shaq beating the Blazers in the Western Conference
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Finals had a little dial TV. It was color, but there were only 12 channels on it. Watching
them beat the Blazers was one of the first things I remember. Wow. Yeah. That was, I
have two memories of the Blazers getting beaten by the Lakers. There was that horrible 2001,
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but there was also another one in 91. Do you fellas remember that? It was Magic Johnson's
team. Uncle Cliffy. And they, he finger rolled the ball out of bounds. Do you remember that?
And time went off the clock and they won and then they went on to give Chicago their first
title. But that was the year we would have had a home court. We had like 60 wins out
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here or something like that. Anyways, that's the first LA tragedy. But then the one you
remember is when they wouldn't, you know, they call it one way on sub bonus and just
let Shaq bowl them over. That final quarter is, I guess if you want to know more about
this, if you Google fourth quarter meltdown, this game will probably come up. I haven't
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Googled it myself, but I imagine if you did that it probably would. No, I have. It comes
right up. Comes right up. Who were your favorite players on that team? Arvita Subbonis. Scotty
Pippen didn't know he was a bowl. No one ever told me, but growing up he was one of my favorite
players. You're kidding me. You thought he was a blazer. Wow. Mike Piazza also thought
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he was a Met. Apparently he's a Dodger. I didn't know. I invited him to my Bar Mitzvah
actually. That's great. So you're Jewish and Nicaraguan. Jewspanic. Jewspanic. Now what
is that experience like? Is that come, were both your parents that way or is that one's
the other? And so that must be an exciting time for the families get together. Yeah.
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Yeah. My dad's from Brooklyn, Long Island. My mom's from Nicaragua. She let him raise
us Jewish. My Bar Mitzvah was the last time I actually ever went to a synagogue though.
I hear that's kind of normal. A lot of times Catholics that baptism is all we get. I was
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personally pronounced on the first confession, but you probably saw a little bit of that
on the Nicaraguan side, right? I think my mom was raised Baptist, but no religion ever
permeated that. But it actually turns out a hotbed of modern dances in Israel now. So
I'm considering rediscovering my faith. Can you do dual citizenship with that? Yeah, I'm
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pretty sure I can. Oh, I see an angle. That's great. That's great. Well, Sky, it has been
wonderful having you. Is there anything people should be looking forward to aside from you
joining the ballet in the next couple of weeks here? Is there any upcoming shows or events
you want to promote? Yeah, I'll just say a few. Body Box, Northwest Dance Project, Oregon
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Ballet Theater, PDX Contemporary Dance, all great local dance troupes to keep your eyes
out for. Cool. And we'll put some links that you recommend into this, into the syndicated
version as the word is syndicated broadcast. But as we wind things down here, this is kind
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of the time of the hour where we didn't really get to do this last month because I was too
busy thinking about the class of 1988, which is what I graduated from. And this is our
30th anniversary this year. And we didn't really have a party. You're looking at it.
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This is the party. We had a great 20th and we thought we'd leave it at that. But, you
know, I also like it this part of the show, like to kind of, you're talking about Ortegas
and how they run things. You know, this Wheeler guy that's our mayor right now, he kind of
reminds me of a young Danny Ortega, I have to say. He's got this pie in the sky image
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about how things are going to work. He's got this, oh, hey, it's my lovely wife, Jamila.
Hi honey, what's up?
Hey, say goodnight Jeff.
Oh, alright. Goodnight Jeff.
One, two, three, four.
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Good night.
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