November 5, 2025 • 48 mins
Windham & Steve weigh the moments that launched rock into the mainstream, from Elvis and the Beatles on TV to Woodstock, Michael Jackson’s moonwalk, and the rise of digital streaming. Then we stress-test rock mythology with the “couch test,” deciding which bands would make good house guests.
• Elvis and the Beatles making TV a rock megaphone
• Woodstock as the festival blueprint and its lasting imprint
• MJ’s Motown 25 moonwalk and live spectacle escalation
• Digital music’s access vs ritual tradeoffs
• Bad Company tribute highlights and cover craft
• New supergroup buzz featuring Rucker, Mills, and more
• The couch test for bands: chaos vs courtesy
• From Motley Crue to Hootie: who gets a yes
• KISS side-roads, nostalgia, and pinball lore
• Tease: building the perfect album side of 2011
One idea. Six songs. Infinite possibilities...
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SPEAKER_03 (00:00):
Yeah, there there would be a motorcycle and a goat
(00:02):
in your living room, and youwouldn't know which one it was
okay to ride.
SPEAKER_00 (00:07):
Welcome to the perfect album side.
One idea, six songs, infinitepossibilities.
SPEAKER_02 (00:35):
My name is Steve.
His name is Windham.
I say this a lot on this, butwe're back.
SPEAKER_01 (00:41):
We're back.
We are so back right now.
I miss that.
I missed the opening.
I miss the fervor and thepassion.
Fervor.
Glad to be back.
SPEAKER_03 (00:50):
Nice 25 cent word, fervor.
You know, it occurred to me thatalthough every time we uh we
record an episode of the PerfectDown Baside podcast, it's often,
you know, sometimes we domultiple a week, and then
sometimes we go two months andwe haven't done one, and then we
but we always say, We're back,and oh, it's good to see you,
and talking all this stuff.
But for the majority of ourlisteners, from what I have
(01:11):
deduced, is that most of themget on a run, like you do with
any podcast.
You start listening and you justlisten to them back to back to
back.
So they're just hearing us dayafter day.
They listen to an episode onMonday, they listen to an
episode on Tuesday, onWednesday.
There aren't weeks or monthsthat have passed since they've
last heard our voices.
So we always were like, hey,yay, we're back, and also like,
but to them, we for the mostpart, we've never missed a day
(01:32):
for most of our listeners.
SPEAKER_01 (01:34):
Well uh thoughts, yeah.
There's so many things I loveabout this episode, so many
things I love about ourlisteners, the global reach.
But I think one of the pieces ofour episode of our podcast is
that it's benjible.
SPEAKER_03 (01:47):
Benjible, what a bengeable another great word,
fervor and benjable.
SPEAKER_01 (01:51):
Oh, I I'm just getting started.
Goodness gracious.
But you know what I mean?
Like this is I I think whatwe've built uh together is
something that people can listento more than once, and they can
they can listen to two or threeepisodes at a time, and they
hear one and they're like, Oh, Igotta hear the next one.
And you know, we have ourlisteners to thank for that.
SPEAKER_03 (02:12):
We recently got a piece of fan mail from a
listener who said that hestumbled onto our podcast by
accident and then he he liked itso much that he he he just
downloaded all 89 episodes.
Speaking of which, happy 90thepisode to you, my friend.
SPEAKER_01 (02:25):
Oh, that means so much.
Uh my I think 90, what 90thanniversary?
What's that?
The paper mache anniversary, theparticle board?
SPEAKER_03 (02:34):
The the ash, ashy residue, ash, some sort of
resin.
Yeah.
Some sort of liquid.
Uh yeah, happy 90th episode,which which reminds me, you
know, we we're coming up on ouron our 100th, our century
episode, uh, which is going tobe very special.
A lot of big things coming withthat one that we'll get into
later.
Um, but for today, this is athis is a perfect album side
(02:56):
single.
This is a side A, side B.
We're not building a perfectalbum side, but we got topics to
talk about.
We got a on this single, we gota side A, which is brought to
you by Window Bridgeon, and wegot a side B brought to you by
myself and uh and I and neitherone of us know what those topics
are.
SPEAKER_01 (03:10):
So much mystery going into whether it's always
the the full EP, yeah, uh, orthe full record perfect album
side, or if it's one of oursingles episodes, there's so
much mystery intrigue.
SPEAKER_03 (03:23):
These these these episodes scare me because I'm
always concerned that you'regonna bring up a topic which I
know nothing about, and I'lljust sit here in silence for
eight minutes.
SPEAKER_01 (03:31):
I I today's topic, and we'll get to it in just a
minute, uh, on my side A, is I'mgonna lead you a little bit.
I'm not gonna, I'm not justgonna throw something out there
and expect you to you know chatGPT it.
Um uh chat scs it stone coldSteve.
Oh nice.
(03:51):
So yeah, I I I'm gonna help youout with this one because this
is a big one.
But uh yeah, I I love it.
Well, love it.
SPEAKER_03 (03:57):
Before we get before we before we do, before we do,
uh you and I have both gotteninto uh a record in the last
week or so.
I really think in the last fewdays, correct uh this is uh the
the the the the bad companytrivia record uh can't get
enough.
Um and uh I'll play a little bitof it while we're talking about
it, but um I'm uh so far I'mloving this record.
(04:19):
What do you think?
Tell us about it.
SPEAKER_01 (04:21):
Yeah, I I absolutely love it.
I was a bad company fan growingup.
Um I I don't know anyone growingup that didn't have 10 from 6,
which is their greatest hitsrecord, their 10 hits from 6
records.
Yeah.
Um as you and I talked aboutbefore, bad company.
I mean, do you still hear I meanjust on this record one of the
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30 records?
There's eight there's ten totalstopped.
Eight of the one of them is notbad company, but it's all up
there is right now.
But eight of the nine badcompany stopped on this record
still get an incredible amountof radio play.
That's pretty amazing.
SPEAKER_03 (05:00):
Yeah, I mean these phones are almost 50 years old,
I would think.
SPEAKER_01 (05:05):
Uh uh Call of Fame is not the shirt.
SPEAKER_03 (05:09):
So if you guys haven't heard uh this record, uh
it's called um I don't know ifthe name is called it, can't get
enough attribute to bad company,and it's got uh Hailstorm,
Hardy, uh Splash, and MilesKennedy and the conspirators,
Blackberry Smoke, or HarryDestrut, Charlie Crockett, Dirty
Honey, uh Blackstone Cherry,Death Leopard, and and the
(05:31):
pretty reckless all uhcontributing songs to this
record.
And I'll tell you, if you don'tyou talked about how these songs
still get airplay on the radionow, the cool thing is hearing
these done by different bands,like any tribute album, the
songs are so good.
I mean, they're just so wellwritten, such great songs,
catchy melodies, awesome stuff.
And to hear somebody else's takeon a band that I like, um just a
(05:52):
really good record.
I would I would recommend it.
It gets my stamp of approval,but I think yours.
It it totally does.
SPEAKER_01 (05:58):
I love listening to this.
Now, a lot of the songs on thistribute record sound like the
black like the bad companyversion.
And I'll I'm a huge BlackberrySmoke fan, I know you are too,
but run with the pack runningwith the pack, run with the pack
as it's on this record, it'sthat's got a bad company feel to
it, right?
But other versions, shootingstar by Hailstorm, I think is a
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little bit different than thethe shooting star we're used to
hearing from uh the straightshooter record.
So I think they mix it up alittle bit.
Um, I like the Pretty Reckless,that's a band that I've recently
listened to a little bit.
SPEAKER_03 (06:32):
But I thought Def Leppard's version of Seagull was
crazy good.
And I was I was really as Ilooked at the the the track
lifting, I was like, oh, DefLeppard doing seagull, that's
not gonna be great.
I was wrong.
It's fantastic.
SPEAKER_01 (06:44):
I think it's the best one on here.
Yeah, I I think I agree withyou.
And Joe Elliott sounds great.
Now, I don't know what uhproduction and recording studio
tricks are being in play.
Maybe none, but he soundsphenomenal on that song, and I
was really impressed with it.
He really does.
SPEAKER_03 (07:00):
Uh yeah, I'm sure there's a one-armed drummer joke
in there somewhere, but I'm notgonna use it.
Oh, Steve.
Too soon?
I maybe, probably.
It's been 40 years.
Maybe we could let it go.
Let's talk about side A oftoday's.
SPEAKER_01 (07:13):
I think we have one more thing to talk about.
Oh, talk to me.
What do you got, man?
Well, I I think you and Istumbled upon by accident.
There's that phrase again, thatwe are both gonna be seeing a
relatively new band, nottogether and not in the same
venue, but two, but uh the oneday after the other.
Um and that's that's this bandcalled Owl, owl, owl, owl, owl,
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owl.
Can't say that.
Owl, owl, owl.
That's a hard one to say that.
And this is a uh kind of a asuper group of sorts.
It's got uh dairy cructor, hookyin the blue fish.
SPEAKER_03 (07:49):
The throatie of hoodie in the blue fish.
I know he hates that, but that'swhat it's called.
Dairy's crupper.
SPEAKER_01 (07:54):
Mike Mill of Riemann.
Fantastic.
And Steve Corner, the originaldrummer for the Black Cross and
Stereophonic.
And Stereophonic of the originaland Trigger 50.
SPEAKER_03 (08:05):
That's the trick.
Talked about yesterday.
I mean, this this band righthere, Howl Owl, Howl, combines
REM, your favorite, the BlackCrows, my favorite, and then of
course Hootie, everyone'sfavorite, everyone's favorite,
or 19 million Americans'favorite, you know?
SPEAKER_01 (08:19):
Yeah, I'm excited to see this show.
You mentioned, uh, I think alittle bit ago, that you were
gonna see them in Athens on uhFriday night, and then just a
few days ago, uh, we got invitedto go see them in Atlanta the
next night.
Fantastic.
So I cannot wait to see thisshow.
To me, I'll tell you why I'mexcited.
You and I saw a show that Ithought was still one of the
(08:41):
best shows I've seen.
It was the Black Crows Chris andRich Robinson tribute to REM's
initial record, very firstrecord called Chronic Town.
It was the 50th anniversary or40th anniversary, excuse me.
SPEAKER_03 (08:54):
I'm not 40th anniversary of Chronic Town,
correct.
SPEAKER_01 (08:56):
And and there was a bunch of famous faces that
played REM music all night.
And one of those was DariusRucker.
He played I Believe off uhLife's Rich Pageant.
And uh so you we we kind of sawsomething getting started a
little bit.
Like, wait a minute, this is toogood just to be a one-night
thing.
Uh, and now we're seeing maybethe outcome of that is hey,
(09:18):
well, let's let's try to dosomething, let's have some fun
with this.
SPEAKER_03 (09:21):
It's amazing how much uh of the music that we
like is incestuous.
The players.
Yeah.
You know, they all kind of hangin the same circles and end up
playing on records together.
And um, that's a cool thingabout music, and I dig it.
Me too.
All right, now, now, yes, can wedo that?
All right, you said you broughtside A.
I have no idea what's about tocome out of your head, but I'm
(09:43):
very excited.
Give me side A of the perfectalbum side single for today.
SPEAKER_01 (09:47):
Oh, by the way, before we get to that, it was we
we'll never do, we'll never doside A.
SPEAKER_03 (09:51):
Let's we're not getting to this episode, but
today is the 70th anniversary ofuh Marty McFly arriving uh to
Doc's house.
You asking about the fluxcapacitor.
Magnificent bastard.
Wow, what a poll.
November 5th, 1955, 70 years agotoday.
So hats off to uh to Doc Brownand Marty McFly.
(10:14):
And the whole crew at Back tothe Future.
Um, that was today.
SPEAKER_01 (10:18):
So I wonder what I wanted to let me say on behalf
of all of our listeners aroundthe world, hashtag save the
clock tower.
Yeah, absolutely.
Um well that's enough of that.
What do you got?
That's amazing.
Great poll, folks.
He's not the best in thebusiness for nothing.
Um, we're gonna be talkingtoday, and I said this, I want
to give you my topic, myquestion, and I'm interested in
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hearing.
Uh I'm gonna give you a couplechoices too.
This is gonna be multiplechoice.
Oh boy, but I'm talking aboutmost impactful moment in rock
music.
I'm gonna give you some choicesbecause that's a big topic just
to throw out there.
I know how you like to convinceit.
Yep.
And you can either say, hey, oneof these things is correct.
(11:04):
I think I'm gonna ride thattrain, or you can say, hey,
here's one that you didn'tconsider.
And I want to talk about it alittle bit.
And I have an idea of what oneis.
All right, but um it and so acouple of things to get you
thinking here.
Uh, and I'm talking transcendingmoments that took this idea of
rock music that hadn't existedand moved it to something else.
(11:26):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (11:26):
Okay, I've got a few I've got a few events in my
head.
I'm not sure.
Hit me, hit me.
No, no, I want they might beyour multiple choices.
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01 (11:32):
Okay, well, no cheating, like, oh yeah, I was
gonna say that one.
SPEAKER_03 (11:35):
I'm not cheating.
I mean, I like the fact thatyou've accused me of cheating
three seconds into the topic,but okay.
SPEAKER_01 (11:41):
It's like that the uh Chris Farley episode of
Sarant Live where the teacherwas like, Does anybody know who
the Germans were fighting inWorld War II?
And the teacher goes, France,and Chris Farley raises his
hand, was like, I'm gonna I wasgonna say France.
I was gonna say France.
Uh I got us off chopping topicthere.
Let's impact for a moment.
Here, here's some things to getsome the mental juices going.
(12:03):
I'm ready.
Beatles on Ed Sullivan.
Sure.
Uh Nirvana, nevermind, slashgrunge movement of the early
90s.
Okay.
Next.
Woodstock.
Yeah.
Uh Rock and Roll Death.
Hendricks, Cobain, Morrison.
(12:26):
Now, that's not one single timeperiod.
I get that, but you know what Imean.
Uh, and the rise of digitalmusic.
Um how am I doing so far?
Any am I in the orbit of whatyou're doing?
SPEAKER_03 (12:39):
Are you looking for me to to uh to say one of those
things is the most impactfulthing on rock and roll music?
SPEAKER_01 (12:45):
Yeah, I'd like to see if if one of those stands
out as being a transcendingmoment of rock music more than
more than another one.
Like, for instance, I'll say thefact that the Beatles went on Ed
Sullivan and spotlighted rockand roll and put rock and roll
in a celebrity moment.
I would say that's about as biga deal for music and rock music
(13:08):
specifically.
SPEAKER_03 (13:09):
I I I would think, um, I mean, you know, some of
those those deaths, I you know,I don't count that.
I don't think that that thegrunge, I mean, that's just a
that's a movement.
To me, it's no bigger than discoor glam music.
It's just a movement within rockand roll.
Uh the the grunge movement.
So I I I would go back evenfurther than the Beatles,
though, and and think ElvisPresley uh being on television
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and only being filmed from thewaist up.
I mean, I think that that thoseevents really put rock and roll
truly on the map is ElvisPresley.
Okay.
Um Elvis Presley, Chuck Barry,uh Little Richard, uh Great
Balls of Fire.
I can't think of his name.
Jerry Lewis.
Jerry Lee Lewis.
I mean, those guys uh appearingon television in 1955, uh, to me
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is is really the what took itfrom you know a birth of rock
and roll to oh my god, rock androll is the biggest thing in the
world.
And then with the Britishinvasion and the Beatles coming
over, yeah, that those thingsare what put rock music on the
map.
And my does that answer yourquestion?
Is that what you're asking me?
Yeah, I mean Can I phone afriend?
Can we eliminate two of them?
SPEAKER_01 (14:17):
Um I I think I think you're right.
I I think I think we're saying Ithink we're saying a lot of the
same thing.
I you know, I I think I thinkthe Beatles and the reaction of
the Beatles, I think Elvis, Ithink he was on Ed Sullivan.
We talked about this uh on oneof our episodes, where I think
it was what in the 50s?
I think 55.
(14:37):
Okay.
I think that to me, I think thatcaught everybody off guard.
Like, what am I looking at?
Hip shaking, yeah, uh, very uhvery enticing.
Whatever what there's a wordthere, I can't remember what it
is, very flirting.
Gyrating, gyrating, gyration?
Hip gyration, caught the worldby storm, a lot like the
internet.
(14:58):
Uh, but I think by the time theBeatles came around, I think
that opened to me, it opened upthe eyes to America, like, okay,
there's something else out therethat we don't know about, and
it's this just the reaction ofeverybody, the girls coming off
the plane, even uh, but but thatEd Sullivan moment was okay, we
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are in an entirely new worldwhere artists, musicians were
considered maybe sex symbols,right?
It put the element of rock musiccelebritizing musicians on TV,
uh almost in a worship typesetting.
To me, I look at the Beatles andsaid that change that was a
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trans the most transcendingmoment in rock music.
Um now, digital would be upthere too.
Now, I'm not discounting thatbecause I think from an
accessibility standpoint, uheverybody's downloading music,
everybody's streaming music,everybody's got however many
songs.
Uh I can't tell you how manytimes you and I have been on a
(16:04):
podcast and you've put a song onyour on your record, perfect
album side, and I've said, Ineed to download that just like
that.
The instantaneous access ofdigital music, I think, has been
a big deal as well.
SPEAKER_03 (16:17):
No doubt about it.
Uh, from Napster to LimeWire tostreaming music now, I mean, the
instant accessibility.
Uh, that being said, I don'tmean to sound old, but it to me
it's also taken away a lot ofthe the romantic aspect.
And I don't mean uh male-femaleromance, I just mean the the
romance of going to a recordstore and flipping through
records and buying one andbringing it home and looking at
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the artwork and reading thelyrics and taking the vinyl out
or the cassette out of the CDout for the first time.
I I loved that experience.
And you know, in some ways Imissed that, and I'm glad that
vinyl is back.
Uh, because I still do that.
For example, my eight-year-olddaughter, there's nothing she
wanted more in the world than uha vinyl copy of Taylor Swift's
new album.
Now we don't ever listen to iton vinyl, we always stream it,
(17:00):
but she wanted the physicalcopy, and so I have it.
I have it in my house and I digthat and I and I get it.
Um I'll tell you one I thinkthat we're overlooking.
Um, obviously, Ed Sullivan andand and Elvis uh on um excuse
me, the Beatles and Elvis on EdSullivan.
Uh I I think Michael Jackson onMotown 25 is right up there with
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everyone in the world who wasalive at that moment was paying
attention.
And everything changed themoment that dude did the
moonwalk that night.
SPEAKER_01 (17:35):
Yeah, that's a big deal.
That's something we've talkedabout before.
I don't disagree.
I think to me, you know, forMichael Jackson, I think uh that
was a moment where he basicallyseparated himself from the
adolescent position he had inthe Jackson 5.
Yeah.
I to me, that's when everybodysaid, okay, he's not the lead,
(17:59):
he's not the little cute kidfrom the Jackson 5 anymore.
This guy's his own artist.
I think what he just put themoonwalk on display, that was
about as big a deal as I canremember, also.
And I think it's along the samelines.
It it accentuated the rock androll talent.
It accentuated this guy as acelebrity, a mus a musician, but
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a celebrity.
Of course, this thriller recordhelped with that too.
And he was such a mysteriousguy, he was so quiet, he was so
to himself.
Um yeah, I think that's right onthere.
That's a great call.
SPEAKER_03 (18:32):
You brought up one you brought up one earlier that
you know we're still talkingabout Woodstock 60 years later.
Um to me, that's you know, it'smore than 60 years.
Uh that's insane.
Like, you know, it was it's agood concert, no doubt about it.
But I mean, we still talk aboutit to this day.
SPEAKER_01 (18:51):
Uh we totally do.
And that's let's look at the theuh imitation is the best form of
flattery, right?
How many we I know there's beenat least one other Woodstock
they tried to put together.
How about all the otherfestivals?
SPEAKER_03 (19:04):
Yeah, I was gonna say every music festival you can
think of is is uh that's what Imean, Woodstock was the first.
SPEAKER_01 (19:09):
Yep.
And I'm thinking uh down in yourneck of the woods, panic just
widespread panic just playedlast weekend in Savannah.
Yes, if you've been to a panicshow or a fish show uh or a dead
show, you see remnants of whatWoodstock was uh in those
concerts as well, those one-offuh I almost said single sign-on,
(19:29):
those one-off concerts thataren't festivals.
So Woodstock has had a huge,huge impact and influence that's
still very, very visible evensix almost 60 years later.
SPEAKER_03 (19:42):
Yeah, and you know, every single music festival I've
ever been, I've ever been tokind of ends the same way.
Uh, you know, you can't youcan't get enough drinks or
drugs, there's a lot of mud.
Uh, you know, you're justwandering around trying to find
your friends, somebody's dead.
Like it's it's all the samething over and over again.
Very little personal hygiene.
It's a really good time, though.
It's very fun.
I don't I don't do it as muchnow, but back in the day, you
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know?
SPEAKER_01 (20:03):
It's awesome.
Uh Music Midtown, I mean, that'sthat that didn't quite have.
I mean, it did.
It was a huge show, but itdidn't quite have, and it's it's
still going on, but it didn'thave quite the the impact and
the the celebrity shine to itthat say La Lapalooza had or
Little Affair or all theseothers, but that's another one.
(20:24):
Same kind of thing.
Go ahead.
I was gonna say, you seeWoodstock even today.
It may not be Woodstock, it maynot be the you know, in well, it
is in the middle of I mean,Coachella, Bonaroo, Bonaroo's
literally in a f at a farm.
SPEAKER_03 (20:40):
Yeah, it's all the same.
Um yeah, I mean, look to all theperfect album siders out there
that are listening.
If is there's something thatwe're forgetting, because we're
we're doing this off the cuff.
Are there huge events in thehistory of rock music that that
really catapulted rock into uhour conscience for lack of a
better word?
(21:00):
That we are forgetting.
Uh on Twitter or X, we're atperfect album Sid, uh, let us
know.
Uh, or shoot us an email,whatever you got to do.
But I'm sure there's a few thatwe're forgetting.
Or call Steve at home.
He loves that.
I'll give you my especially lateat night Eastern.
My kids like that.
SPEAKER_01 (21:15):
Side B.
Oh, now I'm nervous.
Side B.
All the cards until just now.
SPEAKER_03 (21:20):
I want you to go back about 30 or 40 episodes,
and we were doing a uh we did anepisode on the music of Athens,
Georgia.
Speaking of Athens, Georgiaagain, uh, and we had a
gentleman by the name of MikeWinger on the show, who was the
lead singer of Dayroom.
Do you remember this?
And he talked about playing, youknow, 250 nights a year uh while
(21:41):
on tour.
But he said, you know, for allthe years that they played
together, he's like, you know,we probably only stayed in a
hotel 25 times.
They always ended up onsomebody's couch or staying at
somebody's house and whereverthey were playing.
And so I started thinking aboutthat.
And I'm like, okay, wend them.
I want you to look back atmusic, you know, rock, rock
bands, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s,whatever.
(22:03):
And I'm gonna throw out somebands, and you let me know.
Number one, would they be goodhouse guests?
Would you allow them to stay atyour house?
You've got a wife, you havechildren, as do I.
Can this band crash at yourhouse the night of the gig?
SPEAKER_01 (22:18):
Well, I before I I love this.
I'm really excited and kind ofrelieved that you weren't asking
me to like, you know, dochemical equations or something.
SPEAKER_03 (22:27):
Uh nothing like that.
SPEAKER_01 (22:28):
You simply have to make a decision.
But I can't use I have to becareful about whether I'm going
heart or head on this becauseyou may say X band, and I may
say, of course, they're they'reone of my favorite bands ever.
Of course I'm gonna let them in.
Right?
I like I'm staying away fromthat.
I don't know.
I mean uh anything goes.
SPEAKER_03 (22:46):
Okay, look, that's all you had to say.
Oh okay, Motley Crue.
Does Motley Crue get to stay atWyndham's house?
Okay, and they're and we'retalking heyday.
Yeah, yeah, we're talking MotleyCrue 1986.
Okay, no Theater of Pain tour.
SPEAKER_01 (23:01):
Nope.
They uh because I would probablyneed to bunk with them starting
the next day because my wifewould kick me out.
SPEAKER_03 (23:08):
Yeah, there would be a motorcycle and a goat in your
living room, and you wouldn'tknow which one it was okay to
ride.
I mean, like shit would getweird.
You know what I'm saying?
unknown (23:17):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (23:18):
Uh yeah, no, I wouldn't I I I love their music
and I love the that's a goodthing.
The Eagles, yes.
SPEAKER_03 (23:24):
The Eagles, I think so.
I mean, there would be a lot offighting.
It'd be tame.
I mean, Henry would all be ableto do it.
Their own couch, you know, theywouldn't share anything, they
wouldn't talk, at least not toeach other.
Don Henley would demand themaster bedroom.
Yeah, that's that this is thekind of thing that we gotta
think about.
So the Eagles, they they get tostay at your house, although it
might be uncomfortable for a lotof us.
SPEAKER_01 (23:43):
Yeah, so it's one, it's the score is one to one.
Motley Crue, no, Eagles, yes.
SPEAKER_03 (23:47):
Okay, well, let's talk about some of your favorite
bands.
Led Zeppelin.
SPEAKER_01 (23:50):
In their payday, 1973, Led Zeppelin.
Yes.
I I'd I'd pay I'd pay the price.
And I I yes.
SPEAKER_03 (24:00):
I'm not interested in having hobbits and live
animals and candles and no,thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah, that's that's with bigsleeves.
That's that's not gonna happenat my house.
Okay, I'm in on that one.
Okay.
I I think that one's hard open.
You said anything goes, so yeah.
I mean, I I just think you'reyou're you're really thinking
with heart, not head.
I there's no way you let uh 1973led Zeppelin into your house.
(24:22):
There's no way.
None.
I disagree.
SPEAKER_01 (24:25):
I think the door, I think we are we're a house of
inclusion.
We are a house that the door isalways open.
Um we'd have to have a seriousfamily meeting before they
before they they knocked on thedoor andor kicked it over or
drove through it.
SPEAKER_03 (24:39):
One of the things that we're gonna do is not
speaking of knocking on thedoor, guns and roses.
Uh 1988, 1988, appetite fordestruction, 87.
SPEAKER_01 (24:50):
Yeah, they're fine.
Guns and roses.
Each of them just got theirfirst multi-million dollar
check.
SPEAKER_03 (24:56):
Um, no, the answer is no.
Of course you wouldn't.
I mean, the the the amount ofheroin and Axel wouldn't show up
until you know one in themorning anyway.
It's just it's it's a no-go.
SPEAKER_01 (25:09):
I I'm waiting for the Burt Baccarac, uh, Liberace,
um, Barry Manilo portion of yoursuggestions to that's not nearly
as fun.
SPEAKER_03 (25:19):
Z Z Top.
SPEAKER_01 (25:20):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (25:21):
The three men from Z Z Top.
Yes.
Can you imagine the amount ofhair that would be in your
shower drain?
Think about those beards.
My God.
SPEAKER_01 (25:31):
And I I I'll tell you, it's a curiosity thing.
Do they sleep in sunglasses?
Beautiful.
SPEAKER_03 (25:38):
Do they braid their beards at night?
We don't know.
Yeah, do they wear hairnets?
Do they poison?
SPEAKER_01 (25:44):
Uh yeah.
I'm okay with that.
Um, heyday, I know BrettMichaels was wild.
Um CC Deville.
Uh yes, a lot of drug use, a lotof drugs.
SPEAKER_03 (25:56):
I I I I take that risk regardless.
I mean, there's gonna be a lotof scantily clad women in your
house that come along with them.
That probably just happens at apoison concert, I would assume.
Is is is the Mizes gonna be okaywith this?
SPEAKER_01 (26:07):
And ironically, it happens at my house all the
time.
Wow.
So wow, that's that'soutstanding.
Yeah, I mean, yes, I'd go poisonbecause I feel like I'm saying
no to a lot.
SPEAKER_03 (26:18):
Um I mean, you're a grown man, of course you say no
a lot.
You have children.
Yeah, you can't just let rockstars into your house.
The the amount of Aqua Nethairspray would be dangerous.
I mean, the housekeeper.
SPEAKER_01 (26:29):
Foundation and rouge and lipstick and mascara, uh,
yes, all of that.
They would take over thebathroom.
SPEAKER_03 (26:38):
Yes.
It'd be a little it'd be alittle weird, but they'd
probably clean up afterthemselves and say thank you.
I'm guessing.
SPEAKER_01 (26:45):
Yes, we'd there'd be a lot of poetry talk.
A lot of recycling.
A lot of recycling.
Oh, tons of recycling.
There's a positive, a lot ofOgden Nash.
SPEAKER_03 (26:53):
There'd probably be some political signs in your
front yard, a lot of blue ones.
Yeah, totally.
Um how about Nirvana?
SPEAKER_01 (27:02):
Yes.
I think I'd be a very quietevening.
I think they would sit aroundlooking around, like, where am
I?
There'd be a lot of where am Ifaces on Nirvana in my house.
How did I get here?
SPEAKER_03 (27:16):
Yeah, that would be uh that's a tough one for me.
I don't know about Nirvana.
Would they smoke indoors?
Of course.
I mean, I think they bring theirhabits.
Whatever they do backstage iscoming back to the house.
Okay.
No weapons, of course.
No weapons.
No weapons.
Our lives are not in danger.
The red hot chili peppers.
Uh RHCP, the layman.
No.
(27:36):
Because that really would getweird.
I think that'd be that'd befunky.
How about nickelback?
SPEAKER_01 (27:41):
Uh I I oh boy, I know there's only two possible
answers, but I'm right in themiddle, like, eh, I I could it
doesn't really matter.
I could go either way.
Cold play.
Oh yes.
The black keys.
SPEAKER_03 (27:54):
Yes.
Pearl Jam.
Yes.
Yeah, I guess I have no problemwith Pearl Jam.
I mean, they they would probablyhave a nice dark roast Seattle
coffee.
Oh, totally.
They'd bring their own blankets,I'm guessing.
SPEAKER_01 (28:07):
I think I think it'd be very conversational.
I think it'd be a very affableevening.
Um I don't think it would beanything wild.
I don't I don't see I don't seePearl Jam as being wild and
crazy big noisemakers whenthey're not playing music.
SPEAKER_03 (28:24):
How about the Foo Fighters?
You said yes to Nirvana.
Do you still say yes to the FooFighters?
Yes, I do.
Probably probably the nicestband in rock and roll.
Yes, I do.
Yeah.
Um Nirvana would have to comefirst.
I think so.
SPEAKER_01 (28:37):
Sure.
Weezer?
Um, yeah.
I feel I put them in the samecategory personality-wise,
affability-wise, as Pearl Jamand Foo Fighters.
Maybe Nirvana.
So I got no I got no problemwith that.
SPEAKER_03 (28:53):
I already know the answer to this one before I get
started.
But uh Tom Petty and theHeartbreakers.
100% yes.
That'd be a lot of fun, I bet.
They'd they'd bring a six-packof beer that'd help you fix your
fence.
You know, they would do somemanual tasks around the house, I
think.
SPEAKER_01 (29:07):
I to yes, I think so.
Uh I I think there'd be somemaybe some Georgia Florida talk,
some cocktail party talk.
SPEAKER_03 (29:16):
I recently attended that cocktail party.
Good times were having.
Recently.
Recently, I was just there.
SPEAKER_01 (29:22):
Yeah.
Yeah.
You saw Goodwin, Good Game.
SPEAKER_03 (29:25):
I did.
Uh Metallica.
Uh no.
Bruce Springsteen and the EStreet Band.
Yes.
Cheryl Crow.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (29:37):
Notice we didn't do a lot of female-led bands in
this extra.
SPEAKER_03 (29:40):
Well, that that poses problems.
You know, you you can't you youjust can't let females in the
house.
You know, you're married.
That's right.
SPEAKER_01 (29:49):
They have no place here.
SPEAKER_03 (29:50):
Uh the black crows.
Let's talk about that.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (29:53):
I don't know if they'd want to stay at my house
because I live about ten minutesfrom where they grew up.
SPEAKER_03 (29:57):
There's probably not enough incense or scars.
In your house to really satisfythem.
SPEAKER_01 (30:02):
Yeah.
Um I wish I could remember theline from hotel ill illness.
Uh well you think that business.
SPEAKER_03 (30:11):
Uh how about Van Halen?
Uh circa David Lee Roth.
SPEAKER_01 (30:16):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (30:17):
Yeah, that would be Van Halen circa Sammy Hagar.
Uh yeah.
Van Halen circa Gary Sharone.
No, no.
Just out of principle.
Yeah, I think so too.
Uh Def Leppard?
Yes.
Okay.
Um, how about John Mayer?
Yes.
I bet that'd be a good time.
He'd bring his own bottle ofwine.
unknown (30:38):
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (30:39):
Yeah, he'd ride something romantic for you.
AC DC.
Do you have enough electricityin your house?
I don't.
And I would say no.
You two.
SPEAKER_01 (30:48):
Yes.
Bono's a weird dude.
I think it'd be an interestingevening.
The killers?
I don't know enough about them.
I would have to say I'm sorry.
Who are you?
Yeah.
I got it, honey.
Honey, I got it.
I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03 (31:03):
There's some guys on the front porch wearing suits.
SPEAKER_01 (31:06):
I don't know what the door barely opens, you know.
Like yes.
SPEAKER_03 (31:10):
I mean, Oasis is on tour right now with their big
comeback tour.
Uh, do you let the brotherssleep on your couch?
SPEAKER_01 (31:17):
No, I don't.
I'll tell you why, because Ifigure I feel that none of us,
no one else in the house wouldsleep.
There'd be too much arguing.
SPEAKER_03 (31:23):
I I yeah, I think that the you would need a
restraining order of some kind.
But you know, based on everyvideo I've seen over the last
few months, there things aregoing great with those two.
So I don't think I would allowOasis circa 1996, but I'd allow
current Oasis, I think.
They seem to be happy.
SPEAKER_01 (31:42):
We'll see.
SPEAKER_03 (31:43):
Uh, since we talked about them earlier, we've
mentioned REM, we've mentionedthe Black Rose.
Uh, I mean, could there be abetter house guest than Hootie
and the Blowfish?
Um, I think it would bewonderful.
I think that would be a reallygood time.
You wouldn't get into too muchtrouble.
You'd probably play a round ofgolf.
There'd be some very pleasant.
We could talk sports.
There'd be some Nickelobe Ultrashanded around.
(32:04):
Um, I think it'd probably be agood time.
I think it'd be a wonderfultime.
SPEAKER_01 (32:08):
Actually, that would be the easiest yes that I've
given.
SPEAKER_03 (32:11):
You'd probably have to watch the South Carolina
Clemson game, but other thanthat, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (32:16):
We'd have to talk about the greatest moments in
South Carolina football history,starting with the coach getting
mayonnaise dumped on his head.
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (32:24):
Uh I didn't think that would come up today, but
here we are.
Um Nora Jones.
Yes.
Very peaceful, very slow, quietevening.
I was gonna say she'd probablyfall asleep on the couch early
with some meal tea.
SPEAKER_01 (32:39):
We would all fall asleep listening to her music
because it's just pleasant, it'seasy, it's great, it's
wonderful.
SPEAKER_03 (32:46):
Uh Jimmy Buffett and the Coral Reefer band.
SPEAKER_01 (32:50):
Yes, plenty of plenty of corona in the cooler,
plenty of lime.
SPEAKER_03 (32:55):
Uh last my last but not least, uh may God have mercy
on his soul.
Uh Ozzie Osbourne.
No.
SPEAKER_01 (33:03):
Heyday, Ozzie Osbourne.
I don't think so.
We we we do a pretty good job ofmanaging pests and ants around
our home.
I don't think there would beenough for him to snort on my
back patio.
SPEAKER_03 (33:15):
Yeah, that's that's a fine point.
Well, I'll tell you what, thatwas my side B.
I wanted to list as many rockbands as I could, see who would
be allowed to stay on yourcouch.
Um, it is funny that some ofthose bands are coming to
Atlanta very soon, and some ofthem could use a place to stay.
I'll give them your number.
Much like you're gonna give theperfect album insiders my
number.
Yeah, I will be giving REMs yourphone number.
(33:36):
I wonder, I wonder how I scoredthere.
I think I did more yes thanno's, which you did a lot more
yes than I was expecting.
Um, you know, maybe I'm just aprivate person.
I I don't want all these peoplein my home.
I barely want my own friends inmy home, yet alone members of
Oasis.
I don't feel like you want me inyour home.
So yeah.
I got here's a true story foreverybody listening.
(33:57):
I've never once stepped footinto Wyndham's house.
Not once in all the years I haveknown you.
Have you ever said, hey, whydon't you come on in and take a
look at my living room?
Never happened.
SPEAKER_01 (34:08):
I need to do that.
I we're not the most hospitablepeople.
You've been to multiple of myhomes.
I have been to multiple of yourhomes.
SPEAKER_03 (34:18):
I've been to your I've been to other members of
your family's homes.
That's what I'm saying.
What what is it that you're Imean, you would be willing to
let the guys from Weezer in, butI'm not allowed in.
SPEAKER_01 (34:29):
And I don't mind.
Oh my god.
Like they did in Seattle.
SPEAKER_03 (34:36):
How about fish?
You mentioned fish, a differentkind of fish.
PH asking about yes, yeah, a lotof drugs.
Uh Dave Matthews band wouldprobably be a pretty good time.
SPEAKER_01 (34:45):
Um, I have played Spy Hunter video game with uh
Carter Beaufort, so yeah, I knowthat doesn't count, but I would
say yes.
Okay.
I know his wife's family, sowe'd have we'd have some common
ground to talk about.
SPEAKER_03 (34:57):
Uh dream so real.
SPEAKER_01 (35:00):
Yes, they played my birthday party.
SPEAKER_03 (35:02):
Yeah, I remember.
Look, that's all I had.
I just wanted to see uh how openyou would be to rock stars in
your house, and it sounds likeyou're a fairly open person, and
I commend you on that.
I am looking forward to my owninvitation, uh, as I will be
coming to Atlanta for theholidays a few times.
I'd expect a spot on your couch.
Knowing full well that you willlet you know Jack White sleep on
your couch and his girlfriendslash sister.
SPEAKER_01 (35:24):
Yes, I you you're knowing full well that I would
let Guar uh sleep on my couchbefore I would uh allow them.
Uh before I would allow you onmy couch.
Southern Wind, which was uh myband.
Yes, they've slept on my couch.
SPEAKER_03 (35:41):
Uh I played in a band called the Well Drinkers,
and uh, we weren't even allowedin our own home, and we all
lived together.
It was it was debauchery at itsfinest.
Uh question for you.
Not even a question so much asit is.
Are you gonna be ready for ournext episode of the perfect
album side podcast where wediscuss the music, the perfect
album side?
We build, we create, we sculptthe perfect album side of the
(36:05):
year 2011.
I will be ready.
When the bell rings, I'm ready.
You know that.
I know, I know.
Can you can you name a singlesong right now from the year
2011 off the top of your head?
I can't.
SPEAKER_01 (36:19):
Um uh Adele.
SPEAKER_03 (36:22):
Uh, is that right?
Uh Rolling in the Deep?
Is that is that 2011?
We think so.
I think so.
I'm thinking business fornothing, kids.
SPEAKER_01 (36:32):
Forget you, CeeLo Green.
Oh was around there.
SPEAKER_03 (36:36):
That sounds right.
Okay.
Um I promise you, I'm I'd bewilling to bet all the money in
my wallet, which is about$26,uh, that one of those two songs
makes it on the perfect albumside.
SPEAKER_01 (36:50):
Oh, I think you're I think you're right.
CeeLo Green.
CeeLo Green.
Yeah, I knew it.
There's I think there's somegood ones.
Uh I need to do some research.
I have those.
I hope I'm right with those.
I may not be right, but I'm Ican't be that far off.
SPEAKER_03 (37:04):
Probably not.
All right, we got some goodthings happening.
The the perfect album side of2011 will be our next episode.
I I think like a week out, orfor those of you that are
binging, tomorrow, if you knowwhat I mean.
Uh we've got our our hundredthepisode coming up, and I don't
know, 2027 was probably the timewe'll get to that one.
And then uh speaking of KISS, Idon't want to give too much
(37:26):
away, but I think there'ssomething on the horizon uh with
KISS.
I think we're gonna rock androll all night.
Oh my god.
Uh Beth, I hear you calling.
That's a good one.
Can't get home right now.
Uh hey, man, great to see you.
You didn't ask me if KISS wouldbe welcome in my home.
Would please, if Kiss isn'twelcome in your home, uh, we got
(37:46):
problems.
Of course they're welcome inyour home.
SPEAKER_01 (37:48):
They're welcome in my home.
I would have them sign mybrother's vinyl copy of
Destroyer, which is thescariest, speaking of Halloween,
which we weren't, but recentlyHalloween, scariest album cover
in history.
SPEAKER_03 (37:59):
You know, I I you know how much I love pinball
machines.
I would like to play the KISSpinball machine with the boys
from Kiss.
Oh, that would be amazing.
Do you still have those pinballmachines?
No, no.
Long story.
We can't talk about it.
SPEAKER_01 (38:13):
I do remember you.
Speaking of KISS, uh, shit.
Um New York Groove, man.
New York Groove, give that alisten.
Uh yeah, I mean, what a legend.
Uh just uh uh, yeah.
It's sad.
SPEAKER_03 (38:30):
I feel like every time that you know, because we
go for a few weeks or a month orsomething without doing an
episode of the perfect albumside podcast, we get back on.
Somebody big has died.
And it's like every time now.
And I like this show to turninto the obituary section.
You turn to the perfect albumside to find out who died.
Let's not have that happen.
SPEAKER_01 (38:47):
Rock and roll obituary.
That's a good podcast, rightthere.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Um, who is you've got fouroriginal members of KISS.
I know we're trying to get we'retrying to get out of here.
You've got four originalmembers, Ace, Peter, Chris, Gene
Simmons, Paul Stanley.
Nice.
Who are who are number one?
Who's your favorite makeup KISSguy?
(39:08):
Who's got the best makeup?
SPEAKER_03 (39:10):
Uh Paul Stanley, of course.
Starman.
SPEAKER_01 (39:12):
Oh, really?
Just the okay.
I liked Peter Chris, the cat.
I'm not a cat guy, but I likethe spaceman Ace Freely.
I thought that was cool.
Gene Simmons was the scariest,please.
Everyone knows that.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (39:22):
Ace Freely with the with the pyrotechnics coming out
of the the end of the guitar.
I mean, nothing is cooler thanthat.
SPEAKER_01 (39:27):
Nothing is cooler.
SPEAKER_03 (39:28):
Who's the most underrated member of that band?
Well, I mean, the the three thatwe've talked about, uh, Paul,
Gene, uh, and and Ace Freely.
I mean, those guys are on adifferent level, so it has to be
Peter Chris.
SPEAKER_01 (39:41):
Are you saying that because you're a drummer?
SPEAKER_03 (39:43):
No.
None of them are overrated.
I mean, or you know, underrated.
They're all it's fucking kiss.
I mean, there's four of them.
That's it.
SPEAKER_01 (39:52):
Well, they shout, they shouted out loud.
Uh I always thought Gene Simmonswas the guy that got the most
attention.
I thought Paul Stanley wasprobably the most consistent.
You know, he Paul Stanley's thesame guy today as he was in
1975.
SPEAKER_03 (40:07):
Well, remember, remember what we talked about in
episode 23, the the uh theFolgers Crystals uh coffee
commercial with Paul Stanley,where he turns into What are you
doing this?
I mean, good God almighty.
That is the most bizarrecommercial I've ever seen.
SPEAKER_01 (40:22):
You know, he's in those, he's in those workday
commercials.
Great, great.
SPEAKER_03 (40:26):
Uh I'll tell you what, I'm gonna I'm gonna go.
SPEAKER_01 (40:28):
I I think we're just dragging it on that one.
SPEAKER_03 (40:30):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go.
Uh look, I have enjoyed thisgood perfect album side single,
uh, side a monumental momentsthat that uh catalyst uh rock
music into the the forefront ofour consciousness.
And who would you let sleep onyour couch?
Good topics today.
SPEAKER_01 (40:46):
If you had told me, hey, my I'm just gonna give you
a heads up.
My my topic, my side B is gonnabe who who would you let sleep
on your couch?
I would have been like, what areyou talking about?
No, I got it right.
SPEAKER_03 (40:56):
We got it right.
We got it right.
We always do.
Episode 90.
It's not our first time, kids.
Uh, let's put the X in stacks.
Good to see you, my man.
SPEAKER_01 (41:06):
Okay, let's not do that, but great to see you.
Yeah, there there would be a motorcycle and a goat
(00:02):
in your living room, and youwouldn't know which one it was
okay to ride.
SPEAKER_00 (00:07):
Welcome to the perfect album side.
One idea, six songs, infinitepossibilities.
SPEAKER_02 (00:35):
My name is Steve.
His name is Windham.
I say this a lot on this, butwe're back.
SPEAKER_01 (00:41):
We're back.
We are so back right now.
I miss that.
I missed the opening.
I miss the fervor and thepassion.
Fervor.
Glad to be back.
SPEAKER_03 (00:50):
Nice 25 cent word, fervor.
You know, it occurred to me thatalthough every time we uh we
record an episode of the PerfectDown Baside podcast, it's often,
you know, sometimes we domultiple a week, and then
sometimes we go two months andwe haven't done one, and then we
but we always say, We're back,and oh, it's good to see you,
and talking all this stuff.
But for the majority of ourlisteners, from what I have
(01:11):
deduced, is that most of themget on a run, like you do with
any podcast.
You start listening and you justlisten to them back to back to
back.
So they're just hearing us dayafter day.
They listen to an episode onMonday, they listen to an
episode on Tuesday, onWednesday.
There aren't weeks or monthsthat have passed since they've
last heard our voices.
So we always were like, hey,yay, we're back, and also like,
but to them, we for the mostpart, we've never missed a day
(01:32):
for most of our listeners.
SPEAKER_01 (01:34):
Well uh thoughts, yeah.
There's so many things I loveabout this episode, so many
things I love about ourlisteners, the global reach.
But I think one of the pieces ofour episode of our podcast is
that it's benjible.
SPEAKER_03 (01:47):
Benjible, what a bengeable another great word,
fervor and benjable.
SPEAKER_01 (01:51):
Oh, I I'm just getting started.
Goodness gracious.
But you know what I mean?
Like this is I I think whatwe've built uh together is
something that people can listento more than once, and they can
they can listen to two or threeepisodes at a time, and they
hear one and they're like, Oh, Igotta hear the next one.
And you know, we have ourlisteners to thank for that.
SPEAKER_03 (02:12):
We recently got a piece of fan mail from a
listener who said that hestumbled onto our podcast by
accident and then he he liked itso much that he he he just
downloaded all 89 episodes.
Speaking of which, happy 90thepisode to you, my friend.
SPEAKER_01 (02:25):
Oh, that means so much.
Uh my I think 90, what 90thanniversary?
What's that?
The paper mache anniversary, theparticle board?
SPEAKER_03 (02:34):
The the ash, ashy residue, ash, some sort of
resin.
Yeah.
Some sort of liquid.
Uh yeah, happy 90th episode,which which reminds me, you
know, we we're coming up on ouron our 100th, our century
episode, uh, which is going tobe very special.
A lot of big things coming withthat one that we'll get into
later.
Um, but for today, this is athis is a perfect album side
(02:56):
single.
This is a side A, side B.
We're not building a perfectalbum side, but we got topics to
talk about.
We got a on this single, we gota side A, which is brought to
you by Window Bridgeon, and wegot a side B brought to you by
myself and uh and I and neitherone of us know what those topics
are.
SPEAKER_01 (03:10):
So much mystery going into whether it's always
the the full EP, yeah, uh, orthe full record perfect album
side, or if it's one of oursingles episodes, there's so
much mystery intrigue.
SPEAKER_03 (03:23):
These these these episodes scare me because I'm
always concerned that you'regonna bring up a topic which I
know nothing about, and I'lljust sit here in silence for
eight minutes.
SPEAKER_01 (03:31):
I I today's topic, and we'll get to it in just a
minute, uh, on my side A, is I'mgonna lead you a little bit.
I'm not gonna, I'm not justgonna throw something out there
and expect you to you know chatGPT it.
Um uh chat scs it stone coldSteve.
Oh nice.
(03:51):
So yeah, I I I'm gonna help youout with this one because this
is a big one.
But uh yeah, I I love it.
Well, love it.
SPEAKER_03 (03:57):
Before we get before we before we do, before we do,
uh you and I have both gotteninto uh a record in the last
week or so.
I really think in the last fewdays, correct uh this is uh the
the the the the bad companytrivia record uh can't get
enough.
Um and uh I'll play a little bitof it while we're talking about
it, but um I'm uh so far I'mloving this record.
(04:19):
What do you think?
Tell us about it.
SPEAKER_01 (04:21):
Yeah, I I absolutely love it.
I was a bad company fan growingup.
Um I I don't know anyone growingup that didn't have 10 from 6,
which is their greatest hitsrecord, their 10 hits from 6
records.
Yeah.
Um as you and I talked aboutbefore, bad company.
I mean, do you still hear I meanjust on this record one of the
(04:44):
30 records?
There's eight there's ten totalstopped.
Eight of the one of them is notbad company, but it's all up
there is right now.
But eight of the nine badcompany stopped on this record
still get an incredible amountof radio play.
That's pretty amazing.
SPEAKER_03 (05:00):
Yeah, I mean these phones are almost 50 years old,
I would think.
SPEAKER_01 (05:05):
Uh uh Call of Fame is not the shirt.
SPEAKER_03 (05:09):
So if you guys haven't heard uh this record, uh
it's called um I don't know ifthe name is called it, can't get
enough attribute to bad company,and it's got uh Hailstorm,
Hardy, uh Splash, and MilesKennedy and the conspirators,
Blackberry Smoke, or HarryDestrut, Charlie Crockett, Dirty
Honey, uh Blackstone Cherry,Death Leopard, and and the
(05:31):
pretty reckless all uhcontributing songs to this
record.
And I'll tell you, if you don'tyou talked about how these songs
still get airplay on the radionow, the cool thing is hearing
these done by different bands,like any tribute album, the
songs are so good.
I mean, they're just so wellwritten, such great songs,
catchy melodies, awesome stuff.
And to hear somebody else's takeon a band that I like, um just a
(05:52):
really good record.
I would I would recommend it.
It gets my stamp of approval,but I think yours.
It it totally does.
SPEAKER_01 (05:58):
I love listening to this.
Now, a lot of the songs on thistribute record sound like the
black like the bad companyversion.
And I'll I'm a huge BlackberrySmoke fan, I know you are too,
but run with the pack runningwith the pack, run with the pack
as it's on this record, it'sthat's got a bad company feel to
it, right?
But other versions, shootingstar by Hailstorm, I think is a
(06:19):
little bit different than thethe shooting star we're used to
hearing from uh the straightshooter record.
So I think they mix it up alittle bit.
Um, I like the Pretty Reckless,that's a band that I've recently
listened to a little bit.
SPEAKER_03 (06:32):
But I thought Def Leppard's version of Seagull was
crazy good.
And I was I was really as Ilooked at the the the track
lifting, I was like, oh, DefLeppard doing seagull, that's
not gonna be great.
I was wrong.
It's fantastic.
SPEAKER_01 (06:44):
I think it's the best one on here.
Yeah, I I think I agree withyou.
And Joe Elliott sounds great.
Now, I don't know what uhproduction and recording studio
tricks are being in play.
Maybe none, but he soundsphenomenal on that song, and I
was really impressed with it.
He really does.
SPEAKER_03 (07:00):
Uh yeah, I'm sure there's a one-armed drummer joke
in there somewhere, but I'm notgonna use it.
Oh, Steve.
Too soon?
I maybe, probably.
It's been 40 years.
Maybe we could let it go.
Let's talk about side A oftoday's.
SPEAKER_01 (07:13):
I think we have one more thing to talk about.
Oh, talk to me.
What do you got, man?
Well, I I think you and Istumbled upon by accident.
There's that phrase again, thatwe are both gonna be seeing a
relatively new band, nottogether and not in the same
venue, but two, but uh the oneday after the other.
Um and that's that's this bandcalled Owl, owl, owl, owl, owl,
(07:36):
owl.
Can't say that.
Owl, owl, owl.
That's a hard one to say that.
And this is a uh kind of a asuper group of sorts.
It's got uh dairy cructor, hookyin the blue fish.
SPEAKER_03 (07:49):
The throatie of hoodie in the blue fish.
I know he hates that, but that'swhat it's called.
Dairy's crupper.
SPEAKER_01 (07:54):
Mike Mill of Riemann.
Fantastic.
And Steve Corner, the originaldrummer for the Black Cross and
Stereophonic.
And Stereophonic of the originaland Trigger 50.
SPEAKER_03 (08:05):
That's the trick.
Talked about yesterday.
I mean, this this band righthere, Howl Owl, Howl, combines
REM, your favorite, the BlackCrows, my favorite, and then of
course Hootie, everyone'sfavorite, everyone's favorite,
or 19 million Americans'favorite, you know?
SPEAKER_01 (08:19):
Yeah, I'm excited to see this show.
You mentioned, uh, I think alittle bit ago, that you were
gonna see them in Athens on uhFriday night, and then just a
few days ago, uh, we got invitedto go see them in Atlanta the
next night.
Fantastic.
So I cannot wait to see thisshow.
To me, I'll tell you why I'mexcited.
You and I saw a show that Ithought was still one of the
(08:41):
best shows I've seen.
It was the Black Crows Chris andRich Robinson tribute to REM's
initial record, very firstrecord called Chronic Town.
It was the 50th anniversary or40th anniversary, excuse me.
SPEAKER_03 (08:54):
I'm not 40th anniversary of Chronic Town,
correct.
SPEAKER_01 (08:56):
And and there was a bunch of famous faces that
played REM music all night.
And one of those was DariusRucker.
He played I Believe off uhLife's Rich Pageant.
And uh so you we we kind of sawsomething getting started a
little bit.
Like, wait a minute, this is toogood just to be a one-night
thing.
Uh, and now we're seeing maybethe outcome of that is hey,
(09:18):
well, let's let's try to dosomething, let's have some fun
with this.
SPEAKER_03 (09:21):
It's amazing how much uh of the music that we
like is incestuous.
The players.
Yeah.
You know, they all kind of hangin the same circles and end up
playing on records together.
And um, that's a cool thingabout music, and I dig it.
Me too.
All right, now, now, yes, can wedo that?
All right, you said you broughtside A.
I have no idea what's about tocome out of your head, but I'm
(09:43):
very excited.
Give me side A of the perfectalbum side single for today.
SPEAKER_01 (09:47):
Oh, by the way, before we get to that, it was we
we'll never do, we'll never doside A.
SPEAKER_03 (09:51):
Let's we're not getting to this episode, but
today is the 70th anniversary ofuh Marty McFly arriving uh to
Doc's house.
You asking about the fluxcapacitor.
Magnificent bastard.
Wow, what a poll.
November 5th, 1955, 70 years agotoday.
So hats off to uh to Doc Brownand Marty McFly.
(10:14):
And the whole crew at Back tothe Future.
Um, that was today.
SPEAKER_01 (10:18):
So I wonder what I wanted to let me say on behalf
of all of our listeners aroundthe world, hashtag save the
clock tower.
Yeah, absolutely.
Um well that's enough of that.
What do you got?
That's amazing.
Great poll, folks.
He's not the best in thebusiness for nothing.
Um, we're gonna be talkingtoday, and I said this, I want
to give you my topic, myquestion, and I'm interested in
(10:41):
hearing.
Uh I'm gonna give you a couplechoices too.
This is gonna be multiplechoice.
Oh boy, but I'm talking aboutmost impactful moment in rock
music.
I'm gonna give you some choicesbecause that's a big topic just
to throw out there.
I know how you like to convinceit.
Yep.
And you can either say, hey, oneof these things is correct.
(11:04):
I think I'm gonna ride thattrain, or you can say, hey,
here's one that you didn'tconsider.
And I want to talk about it alittle bit.
And I have an idea of what oneis.
All right, but um it and so acouple of things to get you
thinking here.
Uh, and I'm talking transcendingmoments that took this idea of
rock music that hadn't existedand moved it to something else.
(11:26):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (11:26):
Okay, I've got a few I've got a few events in my
head.
I'm not sure.
Hit me, hit me.
No, no, I want they might beyour multiple choices.
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01 (11:32):
Okay, well, no cheating, like, oh yeah, I was
gonna say that one.
SPEAKER_03 (11:35):
I'm not cheating.
I mean, I like the fact thatyou've accused me of cheating
three seconds into the topic,but okay.
SPEAKER_01 (11:41):
It's like that the uh Chris Farley episode of
Sarant Live where the teacherwas like, Does anybody know who
the Germans were fighting inWorld War II?
And the teacher goes, France,and Chris Farley raises his
hand, was like, I'm gonna I wasgonna say France.
I was gonna say France.
Uh I got us off chopping topicthere.
Let's impact for a moment.
Here, here's some things to getsome the mental juices going.
(12:03):
I'm ready.
Beatles on Ed Sullivan.
Sure.
Uh Nirvana, nevermind, slashgrunge movement of the early
90s.
Okay.
Next.
Woodstock.
Yeah.
Uh Rock and Roll Death.
Hendricks, Cobain, Morrison.
(12:26):
Now, that's not one single timeperiod.
I get that, but you know what Imean.
Uh, and the rise of digitalmusic.
Um how am I doing so far?
Any am I in the orbit of whatyou're doing?
SPEAKER_03 (12:39):
Are you looking for me to to uh to say one of those
things is the most impactfulthing on rock and roll music?
SPEAKER_01 (12:45):
Yeah, I'd like to see if if one of those stands
out as being a transcendingmoment of rock music more than
more than another one.
Like, for instance, I'll say thefact that the Beatles went on Ed
Sullivan and spotlighted rockand roll and put rock and roll
in a celebrity moment.
I would say that's about as biga deal for music and rock music
(13:08):
specifically.
SPEAKER_03 (13:09):
I I I would think, um, I mean, you know, some of
those those deaths, I you know,I don't count that.
I don't think that that thegrunge, I mean, that's just a
that's a movement.
To me, it's no bigger than discoor glam music.
It's just a movement within rockand roll.
Uh the the grunge movement.
So I I I would go back evenfurther than the Beatles,
though, and and think ElvisPresley uh being on television
(13:33):
and only being filmed from thewaist up.
I mean, I think that that thoseevents really put rock and roll
truly on the map is ElvisPresley.
Okay.
Um Elvis Presley, Chuck Barry,uh Little Richard, uh Great
Balls of Fire.
I can't think of his name.
Jerry Lewis.
Jerry Lee Lewis.
I mean, those guys uh appearingon television in 1955, uh, to me
(13:58):
is is really the what took itfrom you know a birth of rock
and roll to oh my god, rock androll is the biggest thing in the
world.
And then with the Britishinvasion and the Beatles coming
over, yeah, that those thingsare what put rock music on the
map.
And my does that answer yourquestion?
Is that what you're asking me?
Yeah, I mean Can I phone afriend?
Can we eliminate two of them?
SPEAKER_01 (14:17):
Um I I think I think you're right.
I I think I think we're saying Ithink we're saying a lot of the
same thing.
I you know, I I think I thinkthe Beatles and the reaction of
the Beatles, I think Elvis, Ithink he was on Ed Sullivan.
We talked about this uh on oneof our episodes, where I think
it was what in the 50s?
I think 55.
(14:37):
Okay.
I think that to me, I think thatcaught everybody off guard.
Like, what am I looking at?
Hip shaking, yeah, uh, very uhvery enticing.
Whatever what there's a wordthere, I can't remember what it
is, very flirting.
Gyrating, gyrating, gyration?
Hip gyration, caught the worldby storm, a lot like the
internet.
(14:58):
Uh, but I think by the time theBeatles came around, I think
that opened to me, it opened upthe eyes to America, like, okay,
there's something else out therethat we don't know about, and
it's this just the reaction ofeverybody, the girls coming off
the plane, even uh, but but thatEd Sullivan moment was okay, we
(15:21):
are in an entirely new worldwhere artists, musicians were
considered maybe sex symbols,right?
It put the element of rock musiccelebritizing musicians on TV,
uh almost in a worship typesetting.
To me, I look at the Beatles andsaid that change that was a
(15:43):
trans the most transcendingmoment in rock music.
Um now, digital would be upthere too.
Now, I'm not discounting thatbecause I think from an
accessibility standpoint, uheverybody's downloading music,
everybody's streaming music,everybody's got however many
songs.
Uh I can't tell you how manytimes you and I have been on a
(16:04):
podcast and you've put a song onyour on your record, perfect
album side, and I've said, Ineed to download that just like
that.
The instantaneous access ofdigital music, I think, has been
a big deal as well.
SPEAKER_03 (16:17):
No doubt about it.
Uh, from Napster to LimeWire tostreaming music now, I mean, the
instant accessibility.
Uh, that being said, I don'tmean to sound old, but it to me
it's also taken away a lot ofthe the romantic aspect.
And I don't mean uh male-femaleromance, I just mean the the
romance of going to a recordstore and flipping through
records and buying one andbringing it home and looking at
(16:39):
the artwork and reading thelyrics and taking the vinyl out
or the cassette out of the CDout for the first time.
I I loved that experience.
And you know, in some ways Imissed that, and I'm glad that
vinyl is back.
Uh, because I still do that.
For example, my eight-year-olddaughter, there's nothing she
wanted more in the world than uha vinyl copy of Taylor Swift's
new album.
Now we don't ever listen to iton vinyl, we always stream it,
(17:00):
but she wanted the physicalcopy, and so I have it.
I have it in my house and I digthat and I and I get it.
Um I'll tell you one I thinkthat we're overlooking.
Um, obviously, Ed Sullivan andand and Elvis uh on um excuse
me, the Beatles and Elvis on EdSullivan.
Uh I I think Michael Jackson onMotown 25 is right up there with
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everyone in the world who wasalive at that moment was paying
attention.
And everything changed themoment that dude did the
moonwalk that night.
SPEAKER_01 (17:35):
Yeah, that's a big deal.
That's something we've talkedabout before.
I don't disagree.
I think to me, you know, forMichael Jackson, I think uh that
was a moment where he basicallyseparated himself from the
adolescent position he had inthe Jackson 5.
Yeah.
I to me, that's when everybodysaid, okay, he's not the lead,
(17:59):
he's not the little cute kidfrom the Jackson 5 anymore.
This guy's his own artist.
I think what he just put themoonwalk on display, that was
about as big a deal as I canremember, also.
And I think it's along the samelines.
It it accentuated the rock androll talent.
It accentuated this guy as acelebrity, a mus a musician, but
(18:21):
a celebrity.
Of course, this thriller recordhelped with that too.
And he was such a mysteriousguy, he was so quiet, he was so
to himself.
Um yeah, I think that's right onthere.
That's a great call.
SPEAKER_03 (18:32):
You brought up one you brought up one earlier that
you know we're still talkingabout Woodstock 60 years later.
Um to me, that's you know, it'smore than 60 years.
Uh that's insane.
Like, you know, it was it's agood concert, no doubt about it.
But I mean, we still talk aboutit to this day.
SPEAKER_01 (18:51):
Uh we totally do.
And that's let's look at the theuh imitation is the best form of
flattery, right?
How many we I know there's beenat least one other Woodstock
they tried to put together.
How about all the otherfestivals?
SPEAKER_03 (19:04):
Yeah, I was gonna say every music festival you can
think of is is uh that's what Imean, Woodstock was the first.
SPEAKER_01 (19:09):
Yep.
And I'm thinking uh down in yourneck of the woods, panic just
widespread panic just playedlast weekend in Savannah.
Yes, if you've been to a panicshow or a fish show uh or a dead
show, you see remnants of whatWoodstock was uh in those
concerts as well, those one-offuh I almost said single sign-on,
(19:29):
those one-off concerts thataren't festivals.
So Woodstock has had a huge,huge impact and influence that's
still very, very visible evensix almost 60 years later.
SPEAKER_03 (19:42):
Yeah, and you know, every single music festival I've
ever been, I've ever been tokind of ends the same way.
Uh, you know, you can't youcan't get enough drinks or
drugs, there's a lot of mud.
Uh, you know, you're justwandering around trying to find
your friends, somebody's dead.
Like it's it's all the samething over and over again.
Very little personal hygiene.
It's a really good time, though.
It's very fun.
I don't I don't do it as muchnow, but back in the day, you
(20:03):
know?
SPEAKER_01 (20:03):
It's awesome.
Uh Music Midtown, I mean, that'sthat that didn't quite have.
I mean, it did.
It was a huge show, but itdidn't quite have, and it's it's
still going on, but it didn'thave quite the the impact and
the the celebrity shine to itthat say La Lapalooza had or
Little Affair or all theseothers, but that's another one.
(20:24):
Same kind of thing.
Go ahead.
I was gonna say, you seeWoodstock even today.
It may not be Woodstock, it maynot be the you know, in well, it
is in the middle of I mean,Coachella, Bonaroo, Bonaroo's
literally in a f at a farm.
SPEAKER_03 (20:40):
Yeah, it's all the same.
Um yeah, I mean, look to all theperfect album siders out there
that are listening.
If is there's something thatwe're forgetting, because we're
we're doing this off the cuff.
Are there huge events in thehistory of rock music that that
really catapulted rock into uhour conscience for lack of a
better word?
(21:00):
That we are forgetting.
Uh on Twitter or X, we're atperfect album Sid, uh, let us
know.
Uh, or shoot us an email,whatever you got to do.
But I'm sure there's a few thatwe're forgetting.
Or call Steve at home.
He loves that.
I'll give you my especially lateat night Eastern.
My kids like that.
SPEAKER_01 (21:15):
Side B.
Oh, now I'm nervous.
Side B.
All the cards until just now.
SPEAKER_03 (21:20):
I want you to go back about 30 or 40 episodes,
and we were doing a uh we did anepisode on the music of Athens,
Georgia.
Speaking of Athens, Georgiaagain, uh, and we had a
gentleman by the name of MikeWinger on the show, who was the
lead singer of Dayroom.
Do you remember this?
And he talked about playing, youknow, 250 nights a year uh while
(21:41):
on tour.
But he said, you know, for allthe years that they played
together, he's like, you know,we probably only stayed in a
hotel 25 times.
They always ended up onsomebody's couch or staying at
somebody's house and whereverthey were playing.
And so I started thinking aboutthat.
And I'm like, okay, wend them.
I want you to look back atmusic, you know, rock, rock
bands, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s,whatever.
(22:03):
And I'm gonna throw out somebands, and you let me know.
Number one, would they be goodhouse guests?
Would you allow them to stay atyour house?
You've got a wife, you havechildren, as do I.
Can this band crash at yourhouse the night of the gig?
SPEAKER_01 (22:18):
Well, I before I I love this.
I'm really excited and kind ofrelieved that you weren't asking
me to like, you know, dochemical equations or something.
SPEAKER_03 (22:27):
Uh nothing like that.
SPEAKER_01 (22:28):
You simply have to make a decision.
But I can't use I have to becareful about whether I'm going
heart or head on this becauseyou may say X band, and I may
say, of course, they're they'reone of my favorite bands ever.
Of course I'm gonna let them in.
Right?
I like I'm staying away fromthat.
I don't know.
I mean uh anything goes.
SPEAKER_03 (22:46):
Okay, look, that's all you had to say.
Oh okay, Motley Crue.
Does Motley Crue get to stay atWyndham's house?
Okay, and they're and we'retalking heyday.
Yeah, yeah, we're talking MotleyCrue 1986.
Okay, no Theater of Pain tour.
SPEAKER_01 (23:01):
Nope.
They uh because I would probablyneed to bunk with them starting
the next day because my wifewould kick me out.
SPEAKER_03 (23:08):
Yeah, there would be a motorcycle and a goat in your
living room, and you wouldn'tknow which one it was okay to
ride.
I mean, like shit would getweird.
You know what I'm saying?
unknown (23:17):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (23:18):
Uh yeah, no, I wouldn't I I I love their music
and I love the that's a goodthing.
The Eagles, yes.
SPEAKER_03 (23:24):
The Eagles, I think so.
I mean, there would be a lot offighting.
It'd be tame.
I mean, Henry would all be ableto do it.
Their own couch, you know, theywouldn't share anything, they
wouldn't talk, at least not toeach other.
Don Henley would demand themaster bedroom.
Yeah, that's that this is thekind of thing that we gotta
think about.
So the Eagles, they they get tostay at your house, although it
might be uncomfortable for a lotof us.
SPEAKER_01 (23:43):
Yeah, so it's one, it's the score is one to one.
Motley Crue, no, Eagles, yes.
SPEAKER_03 (23:47):
Okay, well, let's talk about some of your favorite
bands.
Led Zeppelin.
SPEAKER_01 (23:50):
In their payday, 1973, Led Zeppelin.
Yes.
I I'd I'd pay I'd pay the price.
And I I yes.
SPEAKER_03 (24:00):
I'm not interested in having hobbits and live
animals and candles and no,thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah, that's that's with bigsleeves.
That's that's not gonna happenat my house.
Okay, I'm in on that one.
Okay.
I I think that one's hard open.
You said anything goes, so yeah.
I mean, I I just think you'reyou're you're really thinking
with heart, not head.
I there's no way you let uh 1973led Zeppelin into your house.
(24:22):
There's no way.
None.
I disagree.
SPEAKER_01 (24:25):
I think the door, I think we are we're a house of
inclusion.
We are a house that the door isalways open.
Um we'd have to have a seriousfamily meeting before they
before they they knocked on thedoor andor kicked it over or
drove through it.
SPEAKER_03 (24:39):
One of the things that we're gonna do is not
speaking of knocking on thedoor, guns and roses.
Uh 1988, 1988, appetite fordestruction, 87.
SPEAKER_01 (24:50):
Yeah, they're fine.
Guns and roses.
Each of them just got theirfirst multi-million dollar
check.
SPEAKER_03 (24:56):
Um, no, the answer is no.
Of course you wouldn't.
I mean, the the the amount ofheroin and Axel wouldn't show up
until you know one in themorning anyway.
It's just it's it's a no-go.
SPEAKER_01 (25:09):
I I'm waiting for the Burt Baccarac, uh, Liberace,
um, Barry Manilo portion of yoursuggestions to that's not nearly
as fun.
SPEAKER_03 (25:19):
Z Z Top.
SPEAKER_01 (25:20):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (25:21):
The three men from Z Z Top.
Yes.
Can you imagine the amount ofhair that would be in your
shower drain?
Think about those beards.
My God.
SPEAKER_01 (25:31):
And I I I'll tell you, it's a curiosity thing.
Do they sleep in sunglasses?
Beautiful.
SPEAKER_03 (25:38):
Do they braid their beards at night?
We don't know.
Yeah, do they wear hairnets?
Do they poison?
SPEAKER_01 (25:44):
Uh yeah.
I'm okay with that.
Um, heyday, I know BrettMichaels was wild.
Um CC Deville.
Uh yes, a lot of drug use, a lotof drugs.
SPEAKER_03 (25:56):
I I I I take that risk regardless.
I mean, there's gonna be a lotof scantily clad women in your
house that come along with them.
That probably just happens at apoison concert, I would assume.
Is is is the Mizes gonna be okaywith this?
SPEAKER_01 (26:07):
And ironically, it happens at my house all the
time.
Wow.
So wow, that's that'soutstanding.
Yeah, I mean, yes, I'd go poisonbecause I feel like I'm saying
no to a lot.
SPEAKER_03 (26:18):
Um I mean, you're a grown man, of course you say no
a lot.
You have children.
Yeah, you can't just let rockstars into your house.
The the amount of Aqua Nethairspray would be dangerous.
I mean, the housekeeper.
SPEAKER_01 (26:29):
Foundation and rouge and lipstick and mascara, uh,
yes, all of that.
They would take over thebathroom.
SPEAKER_03 (26:38):
Yes.
It'd be a little it'd be alittle weird, but they'd
probably clean up afterthemselves and say thank you.
I'm guessing.
SPEAKER_01 (26:45):
Yes, we'd there'd be a lot of poetry talk.
A lot of recycling.
A lot of recycling.
Oh, tons of recycling.
There's a positive, a lot ofOgden Nash.
SPEAKER_03 (26:53):
There'd probably be some political signs in your
front yard, a lot of blue ones.
Yeah, totally.
Um how about Nirvana?
SPEAKER_01 (27:02):
Yes.
I think I'd be a very quietevening.
I think they would sit aroundlooking around, like, where am
I?
There'd be a lot of where am Ifaces on Nirvana in my house.
How did I get here?
SPEAKER_03 (27:16):
Yeah, that would be uh that's a tough one for me.
I don't know about Nirvana.
Would they smoke indoors?
Of course.
I mean, I think they bring theirhabits.
Whatever they do backstage iscoming back to the house.
Okay.
No weapons, of course.
No weapons.
No weapons.
Our lives are not in danger.
The red hot chili peppers.
Uh RHCP, the layman.
No.
(27:36):
Because that really would getweird.
I think that'd be that'd befunky.
How about nickelback?
SPEAKER_01 (27:41):
Uh I I oh boy, I know there's only two possible
answers, but I'm right in themiddle, like, eh, I I could it
doesn't really matter.
I could go either way.
Cold play.
Oh yes.
The black keys.
SPEAKER_03 (27:54):
Yes.
Pearl Jam.
Yes.
Yeah, I guess I have no problemwith Pearl Jam.
I mean, they they would probablyhave a nice dark roast Seattle
coffee.
Oh, totally.
They'd bring their own blankets,I'm guessing.
SPEAKER_01 (28:07):
I think I think it'd be very conversational.
I think it'd be a very affableevening.
Um I don't think it would beanything wild.
I don't I don't see I don't seePearl Jam as being wild and
crazy big noisemakers whenthey're not playing music.
SPEAKER_03 (28:24):
How about the Foo Fighters?
You said yes to Nirvana.
Do you still say yes to the FooFighters?
Yes, I do.
Probably probably the nicestband in rock and roll.
Yes, I do.
Yeah.
Um Nirvana would have to comefirst.
I think so.
SPEAKER_01 (28:37):
Sure.
Weezer?
Um, yeah.
I feel I put them in the samecategory personality-wise,
affability-wise, as Pearl Jamand Foo Fighters.
Maybe Nirvana.
So I got no I got no problemwith that.
SPEAKER_03 (28:53):
I already know the answer to this one before I get
started.
But uh Tom Petty and theHeartbreakers.
100% yes.
That'd be a lot of fun, I bet.
They'd they'd bring a six-packof beer that'd help you fix your
fence.
You know, they would do somemanual tasks around the house, I
think.
SPEAKER_01 (29:07):
I to yes, I think so.
Uh I I think there'd be somemaybe some Georgia Florida talk,
some cocktail party talk.
SPEAKER_03 (29:16):
I recently attended that cocktail party.
Good times were having.
Recently.
Recently, I was just there.
SPEAKER_01 (29:22):
Yeah.
Yeah.
You saw Goodwin, Good Game.
SPEAKER_03 (29:25):
I did.
Uh Metallica.
Uh no.
Bruce Springsteen and the EStreet Band.
Yes.
Cheryl Crow.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (29:37):
Notice we didn't do a lot of female-led bands in
this extra.
SPEAKER_03 (29:40):
Well, that that poses problems.
You know, you you can't you youjust can't let females in the
house.
You know, you're married.
That's right.
SPEAKER_01 (29:49):
They have no place here.
SPEAKER_03 (29:50):
Uh the black crows.
Let's talk about that.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (29:53):
I don't know if they'd want to stay at my house
because I live about ten minutesfrom where they grew up.
SPEAKER_03 (29:57):
There's probably not enough incense or scars.
In your house to really satisfythem.
SPEAKER_01 (30:02):
Yeah.
Um I wish I could remember theline from hotel ill illness.
Uh well you think that business.
SPEAKER_03 (30:11):
Uh how about Van Halen?
Uh circa David Lee Roth.
SPEAKER_01 (30:16):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (30:17):
Yeah, that would be Van Halen circa Sammy Hagar.
Uh yeah.
Van Halen circa Gary Sharone.
No, no.
Just out of principle.
Yeah, I think so too.
Uh Def Leppard?
Yes.
Okay.
Um, how about John Mayer?
Yes.
I bet that'd be a good time.
He'd bring his own bottle ofwine.
unknown (30:38):
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (30:39):
Yeah, he'd ride something romantic for you.
AC DC.
Do you have enough electricityin your house?
I don't.
And I would say no.
You two.
SPEAKER_01 (30:48):
Yes.
Bono's a weird dude.
I think it'd be an interestingevening.
The killers?
I don't know enough about them.
I would have to say I'm sorry.
Who are you?
Yeah.
I got it, honey.
Honey, I got it.
I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03 (31:03):
There's some guys on the front porch wearing suits.
SPEAKER_01 (31:06):
I don't know what the door barely opens, you know.
Like yes.
SPEAKER_03 (31:10):
I mean, Oasis is on tour right now with their big
comeback tour.
Uh, do you let the brotherssleep on your couch?
SPEAKER_01 (31:17):
No, I don't.
I'll tell you why, because Ifigure I feel that none of us,
no one else in the house wouldsleep.
There'd be too much arguing.
SPEAKER_03 (31:23):
I I yeah, I think that the you would need a
restraining order of some kind.
But you know, based on everyvideo I've seen over the last
few months, there things aregoing great with those two.
So I don't think I would allowOasis circa 1996, but I'd allow
current Oasis, I think.
They seem to be happy.
SPEAKER_01 (31:42):
We'll see.
SPEAKER_03 (31:43):
Uh, since we talked about them earlier, we've
mentioned REM, we've mentionedthe Black Rose.
Uh, I mean, could there be abetter house guest than Hootie
and the Blowfish?
Um, I think it would bewonderful.
I think that would be a reallygood time.
You wouldn't get into too muchtrouble.
You'd probably play a round ofgolf.
There'd be some very pleasant.
We could talk sports.
There'd be some Nickelobe Ultrashanded around.
(32:04):
Um, I think it'd probably be agood time.
I think it'd be a wonderfultime.
SPEAKER_01 (32:08):
Actually, that would be the easiest yes that I've
given.
SPEAKER_03 (32:11):
You'd probably have to watch the South Carolina
Clemson game, but other thanthat, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (32:16):
We'd have to talk about the greatest moments in
South Carolina football history,starting with the coach getting
mayonnaise dumped on his head.
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (32:24):
Uh I didn't think that would come up today, but
here we are.
Um Nora Jones.
Yes.
Very peaceful, very slow, quietevening.
I was gonna say she'd probablyfall asleep on the couch early
with some meal tea.
SPEAKER_01 (32:39):
We would all fall asleep listening to her music
because it's just pleasant, it'seasy, it's great, it's
wonderful.
SPEAKER_03 (32:46):
Uh Jimmy Buffett and the Coral Reefer band.
SPEAKER_01 (32:50):
Yes, plenty of plenty of corona in the cooler,
plenty of lime.
SPEAKER_03 (32:55):
Uh last my last but not least, uh may God have mercy
on his soul.
Uh Ozzie Osbourne.
No.
SPEAKER_01 (33:03):
Heyday, Ozzie Osbourne.
I don't think so.
We we we do a pretty good job ofmanaging pests and ants around
our home.
I don't think there would beenough for him to snort on my
back patio.
SPEAKER_03 (33:15):
Yeah, that's that's a fine point.
Well, I'll tell you what, thatwas my side B.
I wanted to list as many rockbands as I could, see who would
be allowed to stay on yourcouch.
Um, it is funny that some ofthose bands are coming to
Atlanta very soon, and some ofthem could use a place to stay.
I'll give them your number.
Much like you're gonna give theperfect album insiders my
number.
Yeah, I will be giving REMs yourphone number.
(33:36):
I wonder, I wonder how I scoredthere.
I think I did more yes thanno's, which you did a lot more
yes than I was expecting.
Um, you know, maybe I'm just aprivate person.
I I don't want all these peoplein my home.
I barely want my own friends inmy home, yet alone members of
Oasis.
I don't feel like you want me inyour home.
So yeah.
I got here's a true story foreverybody listening.
(33:57):
I've never once stepped footinto Wyndham's house.
Not once in all the years I haveknown you.
Have you ever said, hey, whydon't you come on in and take a
look at my living room?
Never happened.
SPEAKER_01 (34:08):
I need to do that.
I we're not the most hospitablepeople.
You've been to multiple of myhomes.
I have been to multiple of yourhomes.
SPEAKER_03 (34:18):
I've been to your I've been to other members of
your family's homes.
That's what I'm saying.
What what is it that you're Imean, you would be willing to
let the guys from Weezer in, butI'm not allowed in.
SPEAKER_01 (34:29):
And I don't mind.
Oh my god.
Like they did in Seattle.
SPEAKER_03 (34:36):
How about fish?
You mentioned fish, a differentkind of fish.
PH asking about yes, yeah, a lotof drugs.
Uh Dave Matthews band wouldprobably be a pretty good time.
SPEAKER_01 (34:45):
Um, I have played Spy Hunter video game with uh
Carter Beaufort, so yeah, I knowthat doesn't count, but I would
say yes.
Okay.
I know his wife's family, sowe'd have we'd have some common
ground to talk about.
SPEAKER_03 (34:57):
Uh dream so real.
SPEAKER_01 (35:00):
Yes, they played my birthday party.
SPEAKER_03 (35:02):
Yeah, I remember.
Look, that's all I had.
I just wanted to see uh how openyou would be to rock stars in
your house, and it sounds likeyou're a fairly open person, and
I commend you on that.
I am looking forward to my owninvitation, uh, as I will be
coming to Atlanta for theholidays a few times.
I'd expect a spot on your couch.
Knowing full well that you willlet you know Jack White sleep on
your couch and his girlfriendslash sister.
SPEAKER_01 (35:24):
Yes, I you you're knowing full well that I would
let Guar uh sleep on my couchbefore I would uh allow them.
Uh before I would allow you onmy couch.
Southern Wind, which was uh myband.
Yes, they've slept on my couch.
SPEAKER_03 (35:41):
Uh I played in a band called the Well Drinkers,
and uh, we weren't even allowedin our own home, and we all
lived together.
It was it was debauchery at itsfinest.
Uh question for you.
Not even a question so much asit is.
Are you gonna be ready for ournext episode of the perfect
album side podcast where wediscuss the music, the perfect
album side?
We build, we create, we sculptthe perfect album side of the
(36:05):
year 2011.
I will be ready.
When the bell rings, I'm ready.
You know that.
I know, I know.
Can you can you name a singlesong right now from the year
2011 off the top of your head?
I can't.
SPEAKER_01 (36:19):
Um uh Adele.
SPEAKER_03 (36:22):
Uh, is that right?
Uh Rolling in the Deep?
Is that is that 2011?
We think so.
I think so.
I'm thinking business fornothing, kids.
SPEAKER_01 (36:32):
Forget you, CeeLo Green.
Oh was around there.
SPEAKER_03 (36:36):
That sounds right.
Okay.
Um I promise you, I'm I'd bewilling to bet all the money in
my wallet, which is about$26,uh, that one of those two songs
makes it on the perfect albumside.
SPEAKER_01 (36:50):
Oh, I think you're I think you're right.
CeeLo Green.
CeeLo Green.
Yeah, I knew it.
There's I think there's somegood ones.
Uh I need to do some research.
I have those.
I hope I'm right with those.
I may not be right, but I'm Ican't be that far off.
SPEAKER_03 (37:04):
Probably not.
All right, we got some goodthings happening.
The the perfect album side of2011 will be our next episode.
I I think like a week out, orfor those of you that are
binging, tomorrow, if you knowwhat I mean.
Uh we've got our our hundredthepisode coming up, and I don't
know, 2027 was probably the timewe'll get to that one.
And then uh speaking of KISS, Idon't want to give too much
(37:26):
away, but I think there'ssomething on the horizon uh with
KISS.
I think we're gonna rock androll all night.
Oh my god.
Uh Beth, I hear you calling.
That's a good one.
Can't get home right now.
Uh hey, man, great to see you.
You didn't ask me if KISS wouldbe welcome in my home.
Would please, if Kiss isn'twelcome in your home, uh, we got
(37:46):
problems.
Of course they're welcome inyour home.
SPEAKER_01 (37:48):
They're welcome in my home.
I would have them sign mybrother's vinyl copy of
Destroyer, which is thescariest, speaking of Halloween,
which we weren't, but recentlyHalloween, scariest album cover
in history.
SPEAKER_03 (37:59):
You know, I I you know how much I love pinball
machines.
I would like to play the KISSpinball machine with the boys
from Kiss.
Oh, that would be amazing.
Do you still have those pinballmachines?
No, no.
Long story.
We can't talk about it.
SPEAKER_01 (38:13):
I do remember you.
Speaking of KISS, uh, shit.
Um New York Groove, man.
New York Groove, give that alisten.
Uh yeah, I mean, what a legend.
Uh just uh uh, yeah.
It's sad.
SPEAKER_03 (38:30):
I feel like every time that you know, because we
go for a few weeks or a month orsomething without doing an
episode of the perfect albumside podcast, we get back on.
Somebody big has died.
And it's like every time now.
And I like this show to turninto the obituary section.
You turn to the perfect albumside to find out who died.
Let's not have that happen.
SPEAKER_01 (38:47):
Rock and roll obituary.
That's a good podcast, rightthere.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Um, who is you've got fouroriginal members of KISS.
I know we're trying to get we'retrying to get out of here.
You've got four originalmembers, Ace, Peter, Chris, Gene
Simmons, Paul Stanley.
Nice.
Who are who are number one?
Who's your favorite makeup KISSguy?
(39:08):
Who's got the best makeup?
SPEAKER_03 (39:10):
Uh Paul Stanley, of course.
Starman.
SPEAKER_01 (39:12):
Oh, really?
Just the okay.
I liked Peter Chris, the cat.
I'm not a cat guy, but I likethe spaceman Ace Freely.
I thought that was cool.
Gene Simmons was the scariest,please.
Everyone knows that.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (39:22):
Ace Freely with the with the pyrotechnics coming out
of the the end of the guitar.
I mean, nothing is cooler thanthat.
SPEAKER_01 (39:27):
Nothing is cooler.
SPEAKER_03 (39:28):
Who's the most underrated member of that band?
Well, I mean, the the three thatwe've talked about, uh, Paul,
Gene, uh, and and Ace Freely.
I mean, those guys are on adifferent level, so it has to be
Peter Chris.
SPEAKER_01 (39:41):
Are you saying that because you're a drummer?
SPEAKER_03 (39:43):
No.
None of them are overrated.
I mean, or you know, underrated.
They're all it's fucking kiss.
I mean, there's four of them.
That's it.
SPEAKER_01 (39:52):
Well, they shout, they shouted out loud.
Uh I always thought Gene Simmonswas the guy that got the most
attention.
I thought Paul Stanley wasprobably the most consistent.
You know, he Paul Stanley's thesame guy today as he was in
1975.
SPEAKER_03 (40:07):
Well, remember, remember what we talked about in
episode 23, the the uh theFolgers Crystals uh coffee
commercial with Paul Stanley,where he turns into What are you
doing this?
I mean, good God almighty.
That is the most bizarrecommercial I've ever seen.
SPEAKER_01 (40:22):
You know, he's in those, he's in those workday
commercials.
Great, great.
SPEAKER_03 (40:26):
Uh I'll tell you what, I'm gonna I'm gonna go.
SPEAKER_01 (40:28):
I I think we're just dragging it on that one.
SPEAKER_03 (40:30):
I'm gonna I'm gonna go.
Uh look, I have enjoyed thisgood perfect album side single,
uh, side a monumental momentsthat that uh catalyst uh rock
music into the the forefront ofour consciousness.
And who would you let sleep onyour couch?
Good topics today.
SPEAKER_01 (40:46):
If you had told me, hey, my I'm just gonna give you
a heads up.
My my topic, my side B is gonnabe who who would you let sleep
on your couch?
I would have been like, what areyou talking about?
No, I got it right.
SPEAKER_03 (40:56):
We got it right.
We got it right.
We always do.
Episode 90.
It's not our first time, kids.
Uh, let's put the X in stacks.
Good to see you, my man.
SPEAKER_01 (41:06):
Okay, let's not do that, but great to see you.
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