May 28, 2025 • 31 mins
Steve and Wyndham delve into the legacy of iconic rock pianists, debating which legends deserve a place on the Mount Rushmore of keyboard players who shaped rock history.
• Tribute to recently departed Rick Derringer, known for "Hang On Sloopy," "Rock and Roll Hoochie Coo," Hulk Hogan's entrance music, and his work with Weird Al Yankovic
• Discussion of a recent classic rock countdown that surprisingly placed Metallica's "Enter Sandman" at #1 over traditional classics
• Billy Joel and Elton John considered piano rock royalty with both hosts ultimately choosing Billy Joel for Mount Rushmore status
• Little Richard unanimously selected as a foundational figure who "started it all" for rock piano
• Heated debate between Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder for the final spot on the piano Mount Rushmore
• Brief consideration of other influential pianists including Chuck Lavelle, Jerry Lee Lewis, and Freddie Mercury
• Announcement of next week's episode focusing on iconic opening bass riffs titled "All the Way to the Base"
Join us next week for "All the Way to the Base" - an exploration of the most iconic opening bass riffs in rock history!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm honestly, I'm afraid to speak, I'm afraid to
say anything, for I be prey toyour shame and mockery welcome
to the perfect album side.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
one idea, six songs, infinite possibilities.
This is the Perfect Album SidePodcast.
(00:36):
My name is Steve, his name isWyndham.
We are here, let us begin now.
I'm going to start adding thatto the intro.
We begin here.
Let us begin now.
I'm going to start adding thatto the intro.
We begin now.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Wyndham hello, as a bassist, that's you, and I'm
trying to keep up with thedrummer and your foot, so to
speak, yeah, yeah, my right foot, and that's why I'm waiting for
you to get us started before Ijump in.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, here we are.
My name is Steve, his name isWyndham.
Welcome to the podcast, wyndham.
How are you, sir?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I'm doing really great.
What's new?
What's new?
Oh gosh, what's new.
Life is just going, going andgoing.
Kids are getting older.
Life is happening.
Don't blink, Stone Cold, I knowyour kids are younger than mine
.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Don't blink, I'm telling you that's a I know.
I know I'm going to be 95 yearsold before I know it, so I'll
be dead soon.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Is this happening Are ?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
we recording this, we are, we'll continue, we're not
perfect.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
We're just really good.
The album sides are, but we'renot Far from it, Boy.
That's good content.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What did we talk about on our last episode?
Let me bring this back whole.
First of all, this is a perfectalbum side single.
We got a side A from Mr Wyndham, we got a side B from me.
But on our last full episode,which was like a week ago or two
weeks ago, I don't rememberwhat did we even talk about?
Vocals only?
Oh, yes, a lot of boy bands.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
A lot of boy bands, a lot of Motown, some Destiny's
Child, yes, and I think we coulddo an entire episode on just
vocals, only Motown vocals, only90s.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
There's a lot of different ways that could have
gone but that was the mostin-depth we've gone with boy
bands and I think that'sprobably as far as we're going
to go with that.
But I can do a whole Motownthing.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I think the best part about it, it was just
unintentional.
The episode wasn't boy bands,no, we had Destiny's Child.
We could have had TLC in there.
We've talked a lot about TLC alot lately.
We had a lot of Motown.
The Supremes, give me a break.
They started it all.
Man 12 number one hits.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
All right, that was last week.
Today, you've brought side A,I've brought side B.
I don't know what side A is,you don't know what side B is,
so we're off the cuff here asthey say Now real quick, before
we jump into this we had alittle pregame going on.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
just a minute ago, we talked about a musical death.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
That's true, we did.
We lost a gentleman by the nameof Rick Derringer.
Rick Derringer famous formultiple things, probably the
most famous for being in a bandcalled the McCoys.
In the 60s they had a huge songcalled Hang On Sloopy, which
I'm sure all of our listenersare familiar with.
But if not, go listen to HangOn Sloopy.
But also equally as importantas his work with the McCoys was
his work with Weird Al Yankovic,who, friend of the podcast.
(03:23):
Weird Al lost his longtimeguitarist and that was sad.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So yes, sad about Rick Derringer.
Now there's two otherconnections I want to bring up
real quick about Rick Derringer.
He also was famous for the songwhich I think to me is a little
more famous and well-known thanHang On Sloopy, which is Rock
and Roll Hoochie Coo.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Rock and Roll hoochie .
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Coo, rock and roll hoochie coo, yes, I forgot how
he is.
He wrote that, so he did.
I forgot that too.
Now the pinnacle of his careercame it wasn't rock and roll,
hoochie coo oh, hang on, sloopy,or it was, it was when my weird
owl, all those would make themere mortal very famous yeah not
in this case.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
He also is responsible for the song real
american, which is best known ashulk hogan's ring entrance song
I did not know that and my mindis blown and now I feel like
the world really has lost amusical icon.
I, uh, you know, I didn't knowrick derringer personally and I
only knew him kind of, you know,just out there on the side.
(04:27):
But that brings it all homeright there.
I'm a real American the.
Hulk Hogan the yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
When you think about, when you think about what you
know, what you tell yourgrandkids.
We talk about legacy andsignificance.
Well, imagine being able to sayyeah, I was responsible for
Hang.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
On Sloopy.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Rock and Roll, Hoochie Coo.
I was the guitarist and theproducer for Weird Al Yankovic's
debut record and other songs.
Oh, and I also wrote the songthat Hulk Hogan, the most famous
wrestler in history, enteredthe ring to.
That's not a bad career, StoneCold.
That's Hall of Fame worthy ifyou ask me.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, I was kind of thinking this was just a side
note, but rick derringer, mygoodness, I mean a musical icon.
Uh, I mean, if you write thetheme music for thunder lips,
you've had a good career,thunder being the rocky, rocky
three hulk cogan character.
Yes, let us get to today'sepisode, otherwise we're going
to do a whole episode on rickderringer, and what a fine
(05:26):
episode it would be.
And our average listeners perepisode, numbers will plummet
well, the derringer family wouldlisten, I'm sure of it.
They're nice people, not beingsaid sorry for you have brought
side a, which I am unfamiliarwith.
Uh, I have brought side b,which you are unfamiliar with.
Uh, drop that needle, mr manman, on Side A, please.
(05:48):
What do we got, yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
we're going to have some fun with this today.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
We don't know.
We like to do lists, oh boy.
And we count down.
Sure, countdown is big in 2025.
But, as most, most rock androll stations talk about classic
rock now.
But as most rock and rollstations talk about classic rock
now, as most classic rockstations around America will do
on the All-American holidays,memorial Day, labor Day, july
4th a lot of them will have atop X number of rock and roll
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songs in history.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Z93, the top 500 songs of all time.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
That type of thing.
Exactly, you got the call signwrong, but everything else in
that is perfect.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
KJ-103, Oklahoma City's own, the top 1,000 songs
of rock history.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Something like that, culminating next August, yeah,
right.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Okay, I follow, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah.
So I just wanted to kind ofhave some fun with this.
It was a little bit of adifferent number one and these
are so arbitrary, right, likethey can mask it by saying oh
yeah, our voters vote Ourlisteners rather voted on this.
We kind of get some out of apickle if there's a weird
selection, like at some point Iheard more than a feeling was at
(06:57):
number 116 and Orange Crush byREM was number 115.
How is that possible?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
It's not Makes no sense, makes no sense, makes no
sense.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Here's what I wanted to ask you.
Give me we're going right offthe cuff here give me side A top
five classic rock songs inhistory and I'm going to tell
you if they made this particularAtlanta classic rock stations
top five.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
You want me to give you the five biggest rock songs
of all time.
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
basically, uh, biggest okay, biggest best, yeah
, somewhere in there.
Wow, that that's all.
These lists end the same.
I mean, there's only a group ofsongs that are going to end up
being in everyone's top five,except this particular list had
a surprise.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Well if I just look at Perfect Album Side nominees
and songs that have won thePerfect Album Side Award
multiple times.
I would think hey Jude by theBeatles is up there.
That's one of my guesses.
Okay, I would then look to theRolling Stones and I would think
(08:06):
probably Satisfaction gets upthere.
I would think the who, babaO'Reilly, is in the top 10 or so
I would think 16.
Okay, van Halen, jump by VanHalen or Panama by Van Halen
(08:27):
Probably up there.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Panama number 22.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Panama.
Okay, I'm at least in the top25.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
You're doing great.
Rolling Stones, satisfaction 29.
Just to address that one.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Pink Floyd.
The Wall has got to be up there.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Okay, another brick in the wall, or is that?
That's what I meant?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
yeah, 26 what did I say the wall?
I mean another brick that'sokay, same album.
You got it uh who, uh, jeezlouise, I'm just, I mean,
there's some big ones that youhaven't named, but yeah, I'm
sure there are, but but what doyou?
What I could go, I'll give youdays.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I know, I know, and it's hard for something like
this because there's so manysongs to choose from Back in
black ACDC.
Number eight.
That's your highest rated oneso far.
So so far, so good.
I'll give you the top six.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Well, hold on, before you give me the top six, have I
named any bands or artists thatare in the top 10 so far?
You've said, oh, no, wow, what?
Okay?
I mean, are we going as farback as you know the 50s?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
and and elvis and or does this elvis?
Elvis wouldn't be considered onthis list, no okay, okay, uh
led zeppelin stairway to heaven.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Uh, that's probably in the top one, that's number
two number two, okay, number oneis a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I wasn't prepared for number one uh, imagine by john
lennon uh, on here somewhere II'm scrolling and I don't see it
, so it's not in the top 50, butokay, hang on sloopy by the
mccoys and rock and roll hoochiecoo by rick derringer three and
four.
I knew it I knew.
He's not the best in thebusiness for nothing, folks.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, okay, I'm doing , okay.
I'm sure I'm leaving out somehuge bands and songs that I'm
just not thinking of.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
No, you're doing great.
And here's I'll go ahead andkind of break the suspense.
I know everybody's pulled overon the side of the road so they
don't aren't distracted whilethey're driving.
Yeah, but here it is stone cold.
A couple of these songs cameout while you and I were in high
school okay smells like teenspirit by nirvana uh,
(10:36):
heart-shaped box by nirvana wasnumber 14.
okay, um, I'm sure nirvanasmells like teen spirit is
number 53.
There it is, right behind badcompany, bad company and right
in front of cars Just what Ineeded.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Okay, Um does Pearl Jam get in the top 25?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I haven't.
Pearl Jam is not in the top 25.
I've not seen them listed atall.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So we still haven't named the number one song which
I mean.
I assume that it's my morningsong by the black crows, but I
don't know I, I would saydescending, but you're, you're
close, yes, all right, uh gunsand freaking roses uh, welcome
to the jungle is in the top 10it is not in the top 10.
Sweet child of mine is number11, okay, um.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So I mean we there's 500 songs on here, we could
literally take all day talkingabout this not on the list at
all.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Stop, please no, okay , uh, knock it on heaven's door.
Bob dylan and guns and rosesnot on the list at all blast not
in the top 100.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
This list not in the top 100.
This, this list is nonsensicaluh, pearl, jam number 80 with
jeremy.
Okay, all right.
So uh, black betty by ram, jamnumber 69 uh, what I?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
what am I forgetting number one?
How am I?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
all right, help me out.
Okay, I'm gonna start.
I'm gonna give you the top 10,um, and number 10 will probably
tell you another top five song.
Wake me up before you go go, Iwant to sex you up, number 10.
I told you Sweet Child of Minewas number 11.
Number 10, lynyrd Skynyrd,sweet Home Alabama, sweet Home
Alabama, top 10.
(12:17):
Wow, okay, number nine BobSeger Night Moves Turn the page
no Night Moves is much better.
But alright, continue.
This is a weird list.
Number 8 ACDC, back in Black.
You got that.
One Journey number comes in atnumber 7 don't stop believing
you nailed it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Here's one give me the artist, I'll tell you the
song Def Leppard pour some sugaron me.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You got it okay.
Now we're in the top 5.
If I gave you the artistseriously, hotel california,
hotel california stupid no, Iwas just waiting for you to say
I'm totally joking, it's hotelcalifornia.
Hotel california, correct,number four leonard skinner.
(12:58):
Sweet home alabama.
We just did that right.
Nope, what song is it you wantto hear tonight?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
oh, free bird yep.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Number three queen, we will rock you.
Nope, bohemian rhapsody, yougot it.
Number two led zeppelin stair.
You got that one.
Now here's number one.
This song came out when I was ajunior in high school and now
it's on classic rock countdowns,that is, metallica.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Enter Sandman.
Of course that's right, Wow.
That's the number one, that'sweird.
I mean it.
That's weird is.
I mean, it's a great song.
It is a great song occasionallyand there was just a video they
just played.
I think it was, uh, I want tosay south america.
They just played a show, uh,within the last month down in
south america, I think it fuck,it could have been connecticut
for all I know, doesn't matterthey just played a show, uh, in
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a big stadium and there wasthere was a great youtube video
of them playing inner sandmanand the whole crowd, I mean, you
know, 60 000 people bouncing inunison um, it's a really,
really good song.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
It is a good song and they're playing in atlanta, uh,
next next tuesday night, Ibelieve on the third of june.
Wow, uh, stone cold.
That is just some highlights ofthe memorial day Top 500
Classic Rock Countdown.
Do you want to flip this record?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I got it.
I got side B, which I don'tthink is terribly far from side
A.
I wanted to talk to you today.
You know I like to build MountRushmores.
Yep, today's no different.
I want to build a MountRushmore.
This is going to be hard.
This is going to make you wantto pull your hair out.
Clearly, you can see I have nohair.
I've already been working onthis.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Well, I'm I'm getting really vulnerable in this
perimeter here.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah for those of you that cannot see at home, if
you're not watching on onyoutube.
And why?
Why would you?
Because we don't put this onyoutube.
But if you were, you would seethat he is pointing to a male
pattern, barb baldness, the, thegeorge costanza pattern that is
really developing on boy leftside of the temple Boy.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
No one has really put it so harshly Male pattern bar.
I was just going to say I'vehad the same receding hairline
since I was 15.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But no, now we found out it's a bigger problem.
Typical horseshoe patternYou've got.
You know, I'd say three to sixmonths Live damn it.
Live Okay.
Side B is all about the MountRushmore of the most iconic and
influential rock and rollpianists.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Oh gosh.
Rock and roll pianists Okay,but you're not talking.
Iconic and influential Okay.
You are not talking aboutartists that play piano.
You're talking.
Are you talking aboutinstrumentalists that play in a
band and play piano?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I am talking about the most iconic rock and roll
piano players of all time theycould have been.
You know, they probably, inmost cases, are singers too.
Okay, but not always Okay.
I mean, there are a few outthere that I think deserve to be
talked about that maybe are notsingers, but most of them, if
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they're iconic and influentialrock piano players, uh, they are
probably front men, in myopinion.
Uh, give me the top one or twothat come to your mind.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
oh, I, I mean easily Elton John and Billy Joel.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
The Piano man and the Piano Lady.
Captain Fantastic, sorry, thatwas inappropriate.
You know I love Elton John,captain Fantastic.
Captain Fantastic, you knowhere's something interesting.
I just played CaptainFantastic's pinball game from
1974 or 5, like over the weekend.
I played Captain Fantasticpinball like a dozen times.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Can you tell me how many pinball machines you have
in your house at current?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Currently I have zero .
I have had multiple in the past.
I don't have any pinballmachines in my house currently,
but I used to have several as I.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I really liked that.
That's criminal.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You were one of the all-time great pinball
connoisseurs I recently, uh andby that I mean over the weekend,
which is where I played captain, fantastic pinball uh attended
a pinball museum, attended,visited a pinball museum which
was just like a hundred pinballmachines line, where it was
awesome, in asheville northcarolina oh, fantastic I've been
(17:12):
there and there's a bunch ofarcade games.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I played all of them.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Defenders.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Zaxxon Joust.
It was great, so that's goingto be.
As soon as we're done with thispodcast, I'm going to dedicate
my life to opening up a newpinball slash arcade here in
South Carolina.
I have dropped a lot of coin inthat place and and I'll tell you
this I was a little upsetbecause a lot of the ones I
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wanted to play weren't working.
But you know we've gotten toofar off the Mount Rushmore side.
We are not talking about theMount Rushmore of video games
and pinball machines, whichwould be a fine side B in the
future.
Right now we're talking aboutthe most influential and iconic
rock and roll piano players ofall time.
You have thrown out two verygood answers in William Joel and
Elton John.
Reginald Dwight Reginald Dwight, yes, as he was better known.
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Can I give you one?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
that I was thinking of.
Yeah, hit me with it.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
The first one, Little Richard.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Oh gosh, that's a great one.
Yeah, that's a great one.
He started it all.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
He started everything I mean.
Rock and roll doesn't existwithout Little Richard.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You saw.
I think I think you finished itby now, but you said you only
watched the first half.
You still would have seen thispart Becoming.
Led Zeppelin has a feature onLittle Richard and it's
absolutely phenomenal to watch.
It really shows off his talent.
I'm not old enough to rememberthankfully old enough to
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remember him at his prime.
I remembered him when he wasprobably past his prime.
But that segment of that moviewas what it's about and where
they got their influence and howbig a deal it was.
That is incredible.
That's a great pull.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Obviously, we talked about Billy Joel, elton John,
little Richard.
Then there's a whole bunch ofother could-bes, and I'm not so
sure that I'm married to any ofthem at this point.
There are two guys that come tomind, both blind, oh Ray.
Charles, that we should bethinking of and Stevie Wonder
and Mickey Gilley no, not Mickeybe thinking of and stevie
(19:16):
wonder, mickey gilly no not, notmickey gilly stevie wonder and
ray charles, I don't think wasmickey gilly blind, I don't know
.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Okay, you know what?
Let's stick with your choices.
Um, I both of them are amazing.
Uh, stevie wonder, one of thegreatest musicians, I think, of
all times um.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
He played like every instrument on half of his albums
.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I think he did, uh, so I think that's incredible,
that both of those are reallyreally good.
Um, now you got me thinking upand down.
All right, let me go back.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Okay, there's another one.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Goodness gracious, great balls of fire yeah, jerry
lee lewis, and I immediatelythought of, immediately thought
of Jerry Lee Lewis.
When you said Little Richard,yeah, I don't think you, I think
he's in the conversation, to me, to me, I don't think Jerry Lee
Lewis outshines, I mean, greatballs of fire was amazing.
(20:08):
I don't think he outshinesLittle Richard, certainly not
Ray Charles, certainly notStevie and not Elton or Billy
Joel.
If you just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
All right, how about Chuck Lavelle?
Not a front man?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
but yes, uh, I will say this I don't think Chuck
Lavelle got nearly the credit,nearly the credit he deserved.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Let me go back to Little Richard for a second.
You mentioned the Making LedZeppelin documentary and yes,
that is what that's.
What gave me.
The idea for this topic waswatching that and talking about
Little Richard.
So that's number one.
Chuck Lavelle, I mean, heshaped the Allman Brothers band,
he shaped the Rolling Stones.
He's played on a billion rockrecords.
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I don't think he makes theMount Rushmore of rock pianists,
but he's certainly in thediscussion.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, I think he could be for sure in the
discussion.
His body of work warrants it.
Rolling Stones, allman Brothersthat's another great
documentary on Chuck Lavelle.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Do we consider a Freddie Mercury?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I don't.
He's responsible for two andmaybe more, at least two amazing
piano riffs, but I don't think,since that was not his natural
instrument and he didn't play iton every song yeah, I would
agree with you.
I just you don't have a raycharles song without him playing
piano.
You don't have billy joel, andmaybe there is one.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I can't think of it, but well, so we've we've
narrowed it down to six or sevenand cutting it down to four.
I mean we're gonna put theseguys on stone, in stone, on the
side of a mountain.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well, what if we went down a different path as well?
On this, talk to me Like aDavid Bryan.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Piano keyboard of Bon .
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Jovi.
I mean longevity hits.
I mean the opening to you GiveLove a Bad Name.
The opening to Living on aPrayer.
Those are him, now it'skeyboard.
I a Prayer.
Those are him, now it'skeyboard.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I don't know if that counts.
Does it have black and whitekeys?
Yes, it counts.
I mean Stevie Wonder.
I mean he kind of introduced alot of the synthesizers to rock
and roll, but I still think hecounts.
You know, we didn't really talkabout Ray Charles.
We mentioned his name.
But Ray Charles, I mean it'shard to rule these guys out.
Um, let me ask you this If youcould only pick one between
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Billy Joel and Elton John,because there's so many
similarities between those twoguys it came up in the same time
, they're both piano virtuosos.
You know similar pop rock hitsif you could only pick one to
sit on that?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
mount rushmore, I mean these guys toured together
yeah, uh, billy joel, with somerecent health news, of course
yeah, but he's not.
He's going to keep going, whichis awesome.
Same with me.
I also decided today not toretire.
I make that decision everymorning and it's a deliberation.
(23:23):
Let me tell you, I go, billyJoel, I do too.
And you know what Heart versushead.
We talk about this all the time.
Don't choose something becauseyou like something better.
I'm probably doing a little bitof that, but I do think body of
work, billy Joel, it's up anddown right.
He's got his softer side.
You'll always be a woman to me,just the way you are, but he's
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also got you may be right allthe uptown girl a little bit
harder stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I mean he's the piano man.
I mean that's his name and thenpianoiano man he's going to.
I mean he wrote a song calledPiano man.
He is the Piano man he makes it.
I think you know Billy Joel.
I think we can agree he's onthe mountain.
Do we agree on Little Richard?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Have to have to.
There is no argument againstLittle Richard being on that
Mount.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Rushmore.
So is it Jerry Lee Lewis,stevie Wonder, ray Charles,
elton John In our next spot, orChuck Lavelle or David Bryan.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I don't know if Chuck Lavelle is going to pass the
mustard, and I'll say it againfor emphasis he should be.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Did you say pass the mustard?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, you never heard that.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Well, I've heard the phrase pass muster, which is an
actual phrase, as opposed topass the mustard, which is a
nonsensical phrase.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
You keep saying nonsensical.
Is that the word of the day?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I think you should stop what you're doing right now
.
Maybe we should pause recordingand look that up.
Pass muster, not pass themustard.
You realize that there arepeople all over the country and
all over the world right nowthat are laughing in our general
direction because of pass themustard.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And those infidels would be wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Pass you kidding me, pass the mustard.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Come up to expectations, reach the required
standard.
I didn't pass the mustard as ahockey player, that wasn't me
saying it.
That was the example they gave.
Okay, miriam Webster, muster ormustered, which gets a pass.
Do you say something thatpasses muster or that it passes
mustard?
And if that something is up tosnuff, would you say, cuts the
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mustard?
Good news is that theappropriate choice of words to
precede muster and mustard isvery clear.
One passes muster, okay.
Cuts the mustard, okay.
You know what it is more commonto say pass the mustard.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I've never heard anybody say that in my whole
life.
Take it up with Merriam-Webster.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I mean, I think they've got the credibility here
.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Well, the people of the Oxford Dictionary would say
pass muster.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Oh, you would be an Oxford guy.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
For those of you that are listening at home and want
to weigh in on this discussion,I suggest that you find at
Wyndham, pridgen or at PerfectAlbum Sid and let us know past
muster or past the mustard.
It's the same debate that we'vehad in the past about of all
time or of all times.
You and I come from differentbackgrounds.
We speak differently, clearly.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
We grew up five minutes from each other.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Well, okay, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Little Richard, billy Joel, going on too long?
What are we doing?
What day is it?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Little Richard, Billy Joel are on the mountain.
Who else?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Give me one.
Go Honestly, I'm afraid tospeak, I'm afraid to say
anything, for I be prey to yourshame and mockery.
I think whoever you put upthere will pass muster.
Okay, I've got to get my mindaround this again.
Yeah, I mean, billy powellwould be another one.
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I know we're not taking newnames leonard skinner, the
aforementioned free bird, um,and it's not just one song, it's
a body of work.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Right, that's what we have to go off of yeah,
otherwise the guy that playspiano for just because I said we
, you know, billy joel versuselton john doesn't mean they
both can't be on there.
I think Elton John is on there,okay.
So Elton John, billy Joel,little Richard, we got room for
one more.
It's going to be Stevie, it'sgoing to be Ray who else am I?
(27:30):
Forgetting.
That's not fair.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Jerry Lee Lewis.
Nope, not him.
It's between Ray or Stevie, andcan you give me the first three
?
We said Billy Joel, elton John,little Richard.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, and now I think we got an error down from Ray
Charles.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Stevie Wonder.
Is there enough granite upthere to just this once, just
one time?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
we get a pass on five .
Well, we did it with femalechicks that rock as opposed to
male chicks that rock.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
We did it with chicks that rock.
One of them was with the samegroup.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, with sisters Okay, we could do five.
I mean, it's our show, it's ourmountain.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I don't think you can choose between Ray Charles,
especially being a Georgia guy.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Georgia on my mind First of all, I can choose
between Ray Charles and StevieWonder.
I have that ability.
I've already chosen in my mind.
Okay, who is it?
It's Ray Charles.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I don't think it's as easy as you say it is.
I say we go both of them.
If I had to choose, I would sayStevie Wonder.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Okay, well then we'll have to agree to disagree.
Maybe we'll put a poll out onthe Twitter Stevie versus Ray
Charles for the last spot on thePerfect Album side.
Mount Rushmore of pianists butwe got Little Richard on there,
we got the Piano man, we gotEltonton john, and then we're
gonna arm wrestle or fight over,uh, ray charles versus stevie
wonder for the final spot on theperfect album.
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So we'll put a poll out thereand see what happens.
What do you think of that idea?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I'm all for a poll always there's a joke in there.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Somewhere there's a joke in there somewhere he's
always for.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I've taken enough abuse today.
Take it easy.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
The next perfect Side podcast, one week from today, I
think.
I think we are going to createthe Perfect Album Side.
Well, wyndham, this is right upyour alley.
This is all you, man.
This is your episode, the oneyou've been waiting for For
almost 90 episodes.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Finally I've been waiting this long, so patiently,
letting other people have theirtime in the sun Tell us what
it's about.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Tell us what it's about.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Go ahead, it's titled All the Way to the Base.
All the Way to the Base, andthis is iconic opening bass
riffs.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Iconic opening bass riffs.
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Oh, this is going to be great, and I'm looking at my
basses as we speak just thinkinghow great this is going to be
and I have got.
When this topic first came up,I came I had a a full page of
songs that I could make a legitcase for, but I've only got room
for six stone cold they say,yeah, uh, it's gonna be a good
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episode.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Iconic bass intro riffs next week on the perfect
album side.
Uh, I'm sorry, we went throughthat whole past the mustard,
past mustard thing.
I hope.
I hope your feelings aren't toohurt no, I'll be back when it
counts.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
When the bell rings, you know, I'll be ready to
answer and cut the mustard allthe way to the base all the way
to the base.
There's a great story there.
I don't know if we can say thatstory on air, but it's really
funny and if you know, you know.
But I think this is going to beour best episode.
I think this is going to be ourmost prominent moment and it's
all because of the instrumentgood, perfect doms.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Have a man.
Good singles later, dude see yathis has been the perfect album
side.
See you next time.
I'm honestly, I'm afraid to speak, I'm afraid to
say anything, for I be prey toyour shame and mockery welcome
to the perfect album side.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
one idea, six songs, infinite possibilities.
This is the Perfect Album SidePodcast.
(00:36):
My name is Steve, his name isWyndham.
We are here, let us begin now.
I'm going to start adding thatto the intro.
We begin here.
Let us begin now.
I'm going to start adding thatto the intro.
We begin now.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Wyndham hello, as a bassist, that's you, and I'm
trying to keep up with thedrummer and your foot, so to
speak, yeah, yeah, my right foot, and that's why I'm waiting for
you to get us started before Ijump in.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, here we are.
My name is Steve, his name isWyndham.
Welcome to the podcast, wyndham.
How are you, sir?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I'm doing really great.
What's new?
What's new?
Oh gosh, what's new.
Life is just going, going andgoing.
Kids are getting older.
Life is happening.
Don't blink, Stone Cold, I knowyour kids are younger than mine
.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Don't blink, I'm telling you that's a I know.
I know I'm going to be 95 yearsold before I know it, so I'll
be dead soon.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Is this happening Are ?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
we recording this, we are, we'll continue, we're not
perfect.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
We're just really good.
The album sides are, but we'renot Far from it, Boy.
That's good content.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What did we talk about on our last episode?
Let me bring this back whole.
First of all, this is a perfectalbum side single.
We got a side A from Mr Wyndham, we got a side B from me.
But on our last full episode,which was like a week ago or two
weeks ago, I don't rememberwhat did we even talk about?
Vocals only?
Oh, yes, a lot of boy bands.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
A lot of boy bands, a lot of Motown, some Destiny's
Child, yes, and I think we coulddo an entire episode on just
vocals, only Motown vocals, only90s.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
There's a lot of different ways that could have
gone but that was the mostin-depth we've gone with boy
bands and I think that'sprobably as far as we're going
to go with that.
But I can do a whole Motownthing.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I think the best part about it, it was just
unintentional.
The episode wasn't boy bands,no, we had Destiny's Child.
We could have had TLC in there.
We've talked a lot about TLC alot lately.
We had a lot of Motown.
The Supremes, give me a break.
They started it all.
Man 12 number one hits.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
All right, that was last week.
Today, you've brought side A,I've brought side B.
I don't know what side A is,you don't know what side B is,
so we're off the cuff here asthey say Now real quick, before
we jump into this we had alittle pregame going on.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
just a minute ago, we talked about a musical death.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
That's true, we did.
We lost a gentleman by the nameof Rick Derringer.
Rick Derringer famous formultiple things, probably the
most famous for being in a bandcalled the McCoys.
In the 60s they had a huge songcalled Hang On Sloopy, which
I'm sure all of our listenersare familiar with.
But if not, go listen to HangOn Sloopy.
But also equally as importantas his work with the McCoys was
his work with Weird Al Yankovic,who, friend of the podcast.
(03:23):
Weird Al lost his longtimeguitarist and that was sad.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So yes, sad about Rick Derringer.
Now there's two otherconnections I want to bring up
real quick about Rick Derringer.
He also was famous for the songwhich I think to me is a little
more famous and well-known thanHang On Sloopy, which is Rock
and Roll Hoochie Coo.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Rock and Roll hoochie .
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Coo, rock and roll hoochie coo, yes, I forgot how
he is.
He wrote that, so he did.
I forgot that too.
Now the pinnacle of his careercame it wasn't rock and roll,
hoochie coo oh, hang on, sloopy,or it was, it was when my weird
owl, all those would make themere mortal very famous yeah not
in this case.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
He also is responsible for the song real
american, which is best known ashulk hogan's ring entrance song
I did not know that and my mindis blown and now I feel like
the world really has lost amusical icon.
I, uh, you know, I didn't knowrick derringer personally and I
only knew him kind of, you know,just out there on the side.
(04:27):
But that brings it all homeright there.
I'm a real American the.
Hulk Hogan the yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
When you think about, when you think about what you
know, what you tell yourgrandkids.
We talk about legacy andsignificance.
Well, imagine being able to sayyeah, I was responsible for
Hang.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
On Sloopy.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Rock and Roll, Hoochie Coo.
I was the guitarist and theproducer for Weird Al Yankovic's
debut record and other songs.
Oh, and I also wrote the songthat Hulk Hogan, the most famous
wrestler in history, enteredthe ring to.
That's not a bad career, StoneCold.
That's Hall of Fame worthy ifyou ask me.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, I was kind of thinking this was just a side
note, but rick derringer, mygoodness, I mean a musical icon.
Uh, I mean, if you write thetheme music for thunder lips,
you've had a good career,thunder being the rocky, rocky
three hulk cogan character.
Yes, let us get to today'sepisode, otherwise we're going
to do a whole episode on rickderringer, and what a fine
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episode it would be.
And our average listeners perepisode, numbers will plummet
well, the derringer family wouldlisten, I'm sure of it.
They're nice people, not beingsaid sorry for you have brought
side a, which I am unfamiliarwith.
Uh, I have brought side b,which you are unfamiliar with.
Uh, drop that needle, mr manman, on Side A, please.
(05:48):
What do we got, yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
we're going to have some fun with this today.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
We don't know.
We like to do lists, oh boy.
And we count down.
Sure, countdown is big in 2025.
But, as most, most rock androll stations talk about classic
rock now.
But as most rock and rollstations talk about classic rock
now, as most classic rockstations around America will do
on the All-American holidays,memorial Day, labor Day, july
4th a lot of them will have atop X number of rock and roll
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songs in history.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Z93, the top 500 songs of all time.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
That type of thing.
Exactly, you got the call signwrong, but everything else in
that is perfect.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
KJ-103, Oklahoma City's own, the top 1,000 songs
of rock history.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Something like that, culminating next August, yeah,
right.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Okay, I follow, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah.
So I just wanted to kind ofhave some fun with this.
It was a little bit of adifferent number one and these
are so arbitrary, right, likethey can mask it by saying oh
yeah, our voters vote Ourlisteners rather voted on this.
We kind of get some out of apickle if there's a weird
selection, like at some point Iheard more than a feeling was at
(06:57):
number 116 and Orange Crush byREM was number 115.
How is that possible?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
It's not Makes no sense, makes no sense, makes no
sense.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Here's what I wanted to ask you.
Give me we're going right offthe cuff here give me side A top
five classic rock songs inhistory and I'm going to tell
you if they made this particularAtlanta classic rock stations
top five.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
You want me to give you the five biggest rock songs
of all time.
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
basically, uh, biggest okay, biggest best, yeah
, somewhere in there.
Wow, that that's all.
These lists end the same.
I mean, there's only a group ofsongs that are going to end up
being in everyone's top five,except this particular list had
a surprise.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Well if I just look at Perfect Album Side nominees
and songs that have won thePerfect Album Side Award
multiple times.
I would think hey Jude by theBeatles is up there.
That's one of my guesses.
Okay, I would then look to theRolling Stones and I would think
(08:06):
probably Satisfaction gets upthere.
I would think the who, babaO'Reilly, is in the top 10 or so
I would think 16.
Okay, van Halen, jump by VanHalen or Panama by Van Halen
(08:27):
Probably up there.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Panama number 22.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Panama.
Okay, I'm at least in the top25.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
You're doing great.
Rolling Stones, satisfaction 29.
Just to address that one.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Pink Floyd.
The Wall has got to be up there.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Okay, another brick in the wall, or is that?
That's what I meant?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
yeah, 26 what did I say the wall?
I mean another brick that'sokay, same album.
You got it uh who, uh, jeezlouise, I'm just, I mean,
there's some big ones that youhaven't named, but yeah, I'm
sure there are, but but what doyou?
What I could go, I'll give youdays.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I know, I know, and it's hard for something like
this because there's so manysongs to choose from Back in
black ACDC.
Number eight.
That's your highest rated oneso far.
So so far, so good.
I'll give you the top six.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Well, hold on, before you give me the top six, have I
named any bands or artists thatare in the top 10 so far?
You've said, oh, no, wow, what?
Okay?
I mean, are we going as farback as you know the 50s?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
and and elvis and or does this elvis?
Elvis wouldn't be considered onthis list, no okay, okay, uh
led zeppelin stairway to heaven.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Uh, that's probably in the top one, that's number
two number two, okay, number oneis a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I wasn't prepared for number one uh, imagine by john
lennon uh, on here somewhere II'm scrolling and I don't see it
, so it's not in the top 50, butokay, hang on sloopy by the
mccoys and rock and roll hoochiecoo by rick derringer three and
four.
I knew it I knew.
He's not the best in thebusiness for nothing, folks.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, okay, I'm doing , okay.
I'm sure I'm leaving out somehuge bands and songs that I'm
just not thinking of.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
No, you're doing great.
And here's I'll go ahead andkind of break the suspense.
I know everybody's pulled overon the side of the road so they
don't aren't distracted whilethey're driving.
Yeah, but here it is stone cold.
A couple of these songs cameout while you and I were in high
school okay smells like teenspirit by nirvana uh,
(10:36):
heart-shaped box by nirvana wasnumber 14.
okay, um, I'm sure nirvanasmells like teen spirit is
number 53.
There it is, right behind badcompany, bad company and right
in front of cars Just what Ineeded.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Okay, Um does Pearl Jam get in the top 25?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I haven't.
Pearl Jam is not in the top 25.
I've not seen them listed atall.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So we still haven't named the number one song which
I mean.
I assume that it's my morningsong by the black crows, but I
don't know I, I would saydescending, but you're, you're
close, yes, all right, uh gunsand freaking roses uh, welcome
to the jungle is in the top 10it is not in the top 10.
Sweet child of mine is number11, okay, um.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So I mean we there's 500 songs on here, we could
literally take all day talkingabout this not on the list at
all.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Stop, please no, okay , uh, knock it on heaven's door.
Bob dylan and guns and rosesnot on the list at all blast not
in the top 100.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
This list not in the top 100.
This, this list is nonsensicaluh, pearl, jam number 80 with
jeremy.
Okay, all right.
So uh, black betty by ram, jamnumber 69 uh, what I?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
what am I forgetting number one?
How am I?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
all right, help me out.
Okay, I'm gonna start.
I'm gonna give you the top 10,um, and number 10 will probably
tell you another top five song.
Wake me up before you go go, Iwant to sex you up, number 10.
I told you Sweet Child of Minewas number 11.
Number 10, lynyrd Skynyrd,sweet Home Alabama, sweet Home
Alabama, top 10.
(12:17):
Wow, okay, number nine BobSeger Night Moves Turn the page
no Night Moves is much better.
But alright, continue.
This is a weird list.
Number 8 ACDC, back in Black.
You got that.
One Journey number comes in atnumber 7 don't stop believing
you nailed it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Here's one give me the artist, I'll tell you the
song Def Leppard pour some sugaron me.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You got it okay.
Now we're in the top 5.
If I gave you the artistseriously, hotel california,
hotel california stupid no, Iwas just waiting for you to say
I'm totally joking, it's hotelcalifornia.
Hotel california, correct,number four leonard skinner.
(12:58):
Sweet home alabama.
We just did that right.
Nope, what song is it you wantto hear tonight?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
oh, free bird yep.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Number three queen, we will rock you.
Nope, bohemian rhapsody, yougot it.
Number two led zeppelin stair.
You got that one.
Now here's number one.
This song came out when I was ajunior in high school and now
it's on classic rock countdowns,that is, metallica.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Enter Sandman.
Of course that's right, Wow.
That's the number one, that'sweird.
I mean it.
That's weird is.
I mean, it's a great song.
It is a great song occasionallyand there was just a video they
just played.
I think it was, uh, I want tosay south america.
They just played a show, uh,within the last month down in
south america, I think it fuck,it could have been connecticut
for all I know, doesn't matterthey just played a show, uh, in
(13:47):
a big stadium and there wasthere was a great youtube video
of them playing inner sandmanand the whole crowd, I mean, you
know, 60 000 people bouncing inunison um, it's a really,
really good song.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
It is a good song and they're playing in atlanta, uh,
next next tuesday night, Ibelieve on the third of june.
Wow, uh, stone cold.
That is just some highlights ofthe memorial day Top 500
Classic Rock Countdown.
Do you want to flip this record?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I got it.
I got side B, which I don'tthink is terribly far from side
A.
I wanted to talk to you today.
You know I like to build MountRushmores.
Yep, today's no different.
I want to build a MountRushmore.
This is going to be hard.
This is going to make you wantto pull your hair out.
Clearly, you can see I have nohair.
I've already been working onthis.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Well, I'm I'm getting really vulnerable in this
perimeter here.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah for those of you that cannot see at home, if
you're not watching on onyoutube.
And why?
Why would you?
Because we don't put this onyoutube.
But if you were, you would seethat he is pointing to a male
pattern, barb baldness, the, thegeorge costanza pattern that is
really developing on boy leftside of the temple Boy.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
No one has really put it so harshly Male pattern bar.
I was just going to say I'vehad the same receding hairline
since I was 15.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But no, now we found out it's a bigger problem.
Typical horseshoe patternYou've got.
You know, I'd say three to sixmonths Live damn it.
Live Okay.
Side B is all about the MountRushmore of the most iconic and
influential rock and rollpianists.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Oh gosh.
Rock and roll pianists Okay,but you're not talking.
Iconic and influential Okay.
You are not talking aboutartists that play piano.
You're talking.
Are you talking aboutinstrumentalists that play in a
band and play piano?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I am talking about the most iconic rock and roll
piano players of all time theycould have been.
You know, they probably, inmost cases, are singers too.
Okay, but not always Okay.
I mean, there are a few outthere that I think deserve to be
talked about that maybe are notsingers, but most of them, if
(16:00):
they're iconic and influentialrock piano players, uh, they are
probably front men, in myopinion.
Uh, give me the top one or twothat come to your mind.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
oh, I, I mean easily Elton John and Billy Joel.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
The Piano man and the Piano Lady.
Captain Fantastic, sorry, thatwas inappropriate.
You know I love Elton John,captain Fantastic.
Captain Fantastic, you knowhere's something interesting.
I just played CaptainFantastic's pinball game from
1974 or 5, like over the weekend.
I played Captain Fantasticpinball like a dozen times.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Can you tell me how many pinball machines you have
in your house at current?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Currently I have zero .
I have had multiple in the past.
I don't have any pinballmachines in my house currently,
but I used to have several as I.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I really liked that.
That's criminal.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You were one of the all-time great pinball
connoisseurs I recently, uh andby that I mean over the weekend,
which is where I played captain, fantastic pinball uh attended
a pinball museum, attended,visited a pinball museum which
was just like a hundred pinballmachines line, where it was
awesome, in asheville northcarolina oh, fantastic I've been
(17:12):
there and there's a bunch ofarcade games.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I played all of them.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Defenders.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Zaxxon Joust.
It was great, so that's goingto be.
As soon as we're done with thispodcast, I'm going to dedicate
my life to opening up a newpinball slash arcade here in
South Carolina.
I have dropped a lot of coin inthat place and and I'll tell you
this I was a little upsetbecause a lot of the ones I
(17:37):
wanted to play weren't working.
But you know we've gotten toofar off the Mount Rushmore side.
We are not talking about theMount Rushmore of video games
and pinball machines, whichwould be a fine side B in the
future.
Right now we're talking aboutthe most influential and iconic
rock and roll piano players ofall time.
You have thrown out two verygood answers in William Joel and
Elton John.
Reginald Dwight Reginald Dwight, yes, as he was better known.
(17:57):
Can I give you one?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
that I was thinking of.
Yeah, hit me with it.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
The first one, Little Richard.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Oh gosh, that's a great one.
Yeah, that's a great one.
He started it all.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
He started everything I mean.
Rock and roll doesn't existwithout Little Richard.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You saw.
I think I think you finished itby now, but you said you only
watched the first half.
You still would have seen thispart Becoming.
Led Zeppelin has a feature onLittle Richard and it's
absolutely phenomenal to watch.
It really shows off his talent.
I'm not old enough to rememberthankfully old enough to
(18:39):
remember him at his prime.
I remembered him when he wasprobably past his prime.
But that segment of that moviewas what it's about and where
they got their influence and howbig a deal it was.
That is incredible.
That's a great pull.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Obviously, we talked about Billy Joel, elton John,
little Richard.
Then there's a whole bunch ofother could-bes, and I'm not so
sure that I'm married to any ofthem at this point.
There are two guys that come tomind, both blind, oh Ray.
Charles, that we should bethinking of and Stevie Wonder
and Mickey Gilley no, not Mickeybe thinking of and stevie
(19:16):
wonder, mickey gilly no not, notmickey gilly stevie wonder and
ray charles, I don't think wasmickey gilly blind, I don't know
.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Okay, you know what?
Let's stick with your choices.
Um, I both of them are amazing.
Uh, stevie wonder, one of thegreatest musicians, I think, of
all times um.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
He played like every instrument on half of his albums
.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I think he did, uh, so I think that's incredible,
that both of those are reallyreally good.
Um, now you got me thinking upand down.
All right, let me go back.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Okay, there's another one.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Goodness gracious, great balls of fire yeah, jerry
lee lewis, and I immediatelythought of, immediately thought
of Jerry Lee Lewis.
When you said Little Richard,yeah, I don't think you, I think
he's in the conversation, to me, to me, I don't think Jerry Lee
Lewis outshines, I mean, greatballs of fire was amazing.
(20:08):
I don't think he outshinesLittle Richard, certainly not
Ray Charles, certainly notStevie and not Elton or Billy
Joel.
If you just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
All right, how about Chuck Lavelle?
Not a front man?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
but yes, uh, I will say this I don't think Chuck
Lavelle got nearly the credit,nearly the credit he deserved.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Let me go back to Little Richard for a second.
You mentioned the Making LedZeppelin documentary and yes,
that is what that's.
What gave me.
The idea for this topic waswatching that and talking about
Little Richard.
So that's number one.
Chuck Lavelle, I mean, heshaped the Allman Brothers band,
he shaped the Rolling Stones.
He's played on a billion rockrecords.
(20:58):
I don't think he makes theMount Rushmore of rock pianists,
but he's certainly in thediscussion.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, I think he could be for sure in the
discussion.
His body of work warrants it.
Rolling Stones, allman Brothersthat's another great
documentary on Chuck Lavelle.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Do we consider a Freddie Mercury?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I don't.
He's responsible for two andmaybe more, at least two amazing
piano riffs, but I don't think,since that was not his natural
instrument and he didn't play iton every song yeah, I would
agree with you.
I just you don't have a raycharles song without him playing
piano.
You don't have billy joel, andmaybe there is one.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I can't think of it, but well, so we've we've
narrowed it down to six or sevenand cutting it down to four.
I mean we're gonna put theseguys on stone, in stone, on the
side of a mountain.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Well, what if we went down a different path as well?
On this, talk to me Like aDavid Bryan.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Piano keyboard of Bon .
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Jovi.
I mean longevity hits.
I mean the opening to you GiveLove a Bad Name.
The opening to Living on aPrayer.
Those are him, now it'skeyboard.
I a Prayer.
Those are him, now it'skeyboard.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I don't know if that counts.
Does it have black and whitekeys?
Yes, it counts.
I mean Stevie Wonder.
I mean he kind of introduced alot of the synthesizers to rock
and roll, but I still think hecounts.
You know, we didn't really talkabout Ray Charles.
We mentioned his name.
But Ray Charles, I mean it'shard to rule these guys out.
Um, let me ask you this If youcould only pick one between
(22:41):
Billy Joel and Elton John,because there's so many
similarities between those twoguys it came up in the same time
, they're both piano virtuosos.
You know similar pop rock hitsif you could only pick one to
sit on that?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
mount rushmore, I mean these guys toured together
yeah, uh, billy joel, with somerecent health news, of course
yeah, but he's not.
He's going to keep going, whichis awesome.
Same with me.
I also decided today not toretire.
I make that decision everymorning and it's a deliberation.
(23:23):
Let me tell you, I go, billyJoel, I do too.
And you know what Heart versushead.
We talk about this all the time.
Don't choose something becauseyou like something better.
I'm probably doing a little bitof that, but I do think body of
work, billy Joel, it's up anddown right.
He's got his softer side.
You'll always be a woman to me,just the way you are, but he's
(23:46):
also got you may be right allthe uptown girl a little bit
harder stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I mean he's the piano man.
I mean that's his name and thenpianoiano man he's going to.
I mean he wrote a song calledPiano man.
He is the Piano man he makes it.
I think you know Billy Joel.
I think we can agree he's onthe mountain.
Do we agree on Little Richard?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Have to have to.
There is no argument againstLittle Richard being on that
Mount.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Rushmore.
So is it Jerry Lee Lewis,stevie Wonder, ray Charles,
elton John In our next spot, orChuck Lavelle or David Bryan.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I don't know if Chuck Lavelle is going to pass the
mustard, and I'll say it againfor emphasis he should be.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Did you say pass the mustard?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, you never heard that.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Well, I've heard the phrase pass muster, which is an
actual phrase, as opposed topass the mustard, which is a
nonsensical phrase.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
You keep saying nonsensical.
Is that the word of the day?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I think you should stop what you're doing right now
.
Maybe we should pause recordingand look that up.
Pass muster, not pass themustard.
You realize that there arepeople all over the country and
all over the world right nowthat are laughing in our general
direction because of pass themustard.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And those infidels would be wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Pass you kidding me, pass the mustard.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Come up to expectations, reach the required
standard.
I didn't pass the mustard as ahockey player, that wasn't me
saying it.
That was the example they gave.
Okay, miriam Webster, muster ormustered, which gets a pass.
Do you say something thatpasses muster or that it passes
mustard?
And if that something is up tosnuff, would you say, cuts the
(25:39):
mustard?
Good news is that theappropriate choice of words to
precede muster and mustard isvery clear.
One passes muster, okay.
Cuts the mustard, okay.
You know what it is more commonto say pass the mustard.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I've never heard anybody say that in my whole
life.
Take it up with Merriam-Webster.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I mean, I think they've got the credibility here
.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Well, the people of the Oxford Dictionary would say
pass muster.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Oh, you would be an Oxford guy.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
For those of you that are listening at home and want
to weigh in on this discussion,I suggest that you find at
Wyndham, pridgen or at PerfectAlbum Sid and let us know past
muster or past the mustard.
It's the same debate that we'vehad in the past about of all
time or of all times.
You and I come from differentbackgrounds.
We speak differently, clearly.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
We grew up five minutes from each other.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Well, okay, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Little Richard, billy Joel, going on too long?
What are we doing?
What day is it?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Little Richard, Billy Joel are on the mountain.
Who else?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Give me one.
Go Honestly, I'm afraid tospeak, I'm afraid to say
anything, for I be prey to yourshame and mockery.
I think whoever you put upthere will pass muster.
Okay, I've got to get my mindaround this again.
Yeah, I mean, billy powellwould be another one.
(27:02):
I know we're not taking newnames leonard skinner, the
aforementioned free bird, um,and it's not just one song, it's
a body of work.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Right, that's what we have to go off of yeah,
otherwise the guy that playspiano for just because I said we
, you know, billy joel versuselton john doesn't mean they
both can't be on there.
I think Elton John is on there,okay.
So Elton John, billy Joel,little Richard, we got room for
one more.
It's going to be Stevie, it'sgoing to be Ray who else am I?
(27:30):
Forgetting.
That's not fair.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Jerry Lee Lewis.
Nope, not him.
It's between Ray or Stevie, andcan you give me the first three
?
We said Billy Joel, elton John,little Richard.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, and now I think we got an error down from Ray
Charles.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Stevie Wonder.
Is there enough granite upthere to just this once, just
one time?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
we get a pass on five .
Well, we did it with femalechicks that rock as opposed to
male chicks that rock.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
We did it with chicks that rock.
One of them was with the samegroup.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, with sisters Okay, we could do five.
I mean, it's our show, it's ourmountain.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I don't think you can choose between Ray Charles,
especially being a Georgia guy.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Georgia on my mind First of all, I can choose
between Ray Charles and StevieWonder.
I have that ability.
I've already chosen in my mind.
Okay, who is it?
It's Ray Charles.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I don't think it's as easy as you say it is.
I say we go both of them.
If I had to choose, I would sayStevie Wonder.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Okay, well then we'll have to agree to disagree.
Maybe we'll put a poll out onthe Twitter Stevie versus Ray
Charles for the last spot on thePerfect Album side.
Mount Rushmore of pianists butwe got Little Richard on there,
we got the Piano man, we gotEltonton john, and then we're
gonna arm wrestle or fight over,uh, ray charles versus stevie
wonder for the final spot on theperfect album.
(29:02):
So we'll put a poll out thereand see what happens.
What do you think of that idea?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I'm all for a poll always there's a joke in there.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Somewhere there's a joke in there somewhere he's
always for.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I've taken enough abuse today.
Take it easy.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
The next perfect Side podcast, one week from today, I
think.
I think we are going to createthe Perfect Album Side.
Well, wyndham, this is right upyour alley.
This is all you, man.
This is your episode, the oneyou've been waiting for For
almost 90 episodes.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Finally I've been waiting this long, so patiently,
letting other people have theirtime in the sun Tell us what
it's about.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Tell us what it's about.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Go ahead, it's titled All the Way to the Base.
All the Way to the Base, andthis is iconic opening bass
riffs.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Iconic opening bass riffs.
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Oh, this is going to be great, and I'm looking at my
basses as we speak just thinkinghow great this is going to be
and I have got.
When this topic first came up,I came I had a a full page of
songs that I could make a legitcase for, but I've only got room
for six stone cold they say,yeah, uh, it's gonna be a good
(30:16):
episode.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Iconic bass intro riffs next week on the perfect
album side.
Uh, I'm sorry, we went throughthat whole past the mustard,
past mustard thing.
I hope.
I hope your feelings aren't toohurt no, I'll be back when it
counts.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
When the bell rings, you know, I'll be ready to
answer and cut the mustard allthe way to the base all the way
to the base.
There's a great story there.
I don't know if we can say thatstory on air, but it's really
funny and if you know, you know.
But I think this is going to beour best episode.
I think this is going to be ourmost prominent moment and it's
all because of the instrumentgood, perfect doms.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Have a man.
Good singles later, dude see yathis has been the perfect album
side.
See you next time.
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