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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, so let's unpack
a challenge that I think well,
a lot of us probably face.
Picture this it's Mondaymorning, you've just got your
laptop open Maybe the coffeehasn't quite kicked in yet and
boom, you're clicking throughlike endless tabs One for email
campaigns, Okay, another forcustomer records, maybe a third
one for invoicing.
Before you even realize it,you're not really managing your
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business anymore.
You're spending your timemanaging this huge stack of
software, and that's really thestruggle we want to explore
today.
You know, getting bogged downby all these disconnected tools.
Our mission really is to figureout why this happens, what it
actually costs businesses, andthen look at ways to well,
simplify things, help you getback your time and focus.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, it's such a
real scenario and what's
fascinating, I think, is justhow universal this whole Monday
problem really is.
It doesn't matter if you run asmall shop or you're leading a
team in a bigger company.
You've likely felt thatfrustration right, Juggling too
many systems and look, it's notjust about convenience, is it?
It has this really profound,tangible impact on your time,
your team's energy and, yeah,ultimately your company's growth
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potential.
It's a critical issue and itoften just creeps up on
businesses.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Oh, absolutely.
I think we've all been there.
It starts small, doesn't it?
You find this one tool.
Maybe it promises better socialmedia scheduling or a slicker
way to track leads.
It seems affordable, looks easyenough, solves an immediate
pain point, so you sign up.
Then another need comes up.
You find another app for thatand suddenly-.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
They multiply.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Exactly.
They just multiply and each onehas its own login, its own fee
every month, its own learningcurve.
It starts to feel like the techthat was supposed to save time
is actually creating moreconfusion.
It's draining energy and,honestly, often costing more
than you thought.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And that feeling it's
not just in your head.
There are some well hard factsbacking this up.
Research actually points tobusinesses losing a pretty
significant chunk of revenueeach year just from
inefficiencies tied to managingmultiple disconnected systems.
Some studies they put thatnumber as high as, like, 30
percent annually.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Wow, 30 percent,
that's huge.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It really is.
Think about it For a companydoing, say, a million dollars a
year, that could mean $300,000just disappearing because
operational friction you couldactually avoid.
But how does that loss actuallyhappen?
It's not like cash just fliesout the window, no, it's because
, well, customer responses getdelayed because messages are all
over the place.
The extra labor for manual dataentry, teams wasting hours
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copying info from system A tosystem B.
It's missing cross-sellingchances because sales data isn't
connected to marketing data.
And there's also that subtlething the impact on team morale
Focus.
If you look at the biggerpicture, you're not just losing
money, you're losing focus onwhat really drives the business
Serving customers, innovating,growing.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
That's such a
powerful point and it makes you
think about your own day,doesn't it Like?
Are you constantly switchingtabs just to get one simple task
done?
Do you find yourself typing thesame data into two different
places because, I don't know,your CRM doesn't automatically
talk to your email tool, ormaybe you're chasing down
missing info, like a customernote from a support chat that
somehow never made it to theirmain profile?
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If any of that sounds familiar,well, you're definitely not
alone, and the cost, as you'resaying, it's way more than just
the money.
It's missed opportunities, lostmomentum and, honestly, it's
worn out frustrated teams.
It can even lead to peopleleaving right Just because
they're tired of fighting clunkysystems day in, day out.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Absolutely that
frustration is a major factor.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Okay, so we get the
Monday problem.
It's real, it's costly, butwhat?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
have businesses
typically done about this
fragmentation?
What are the usual approaches?
Right?
So historically, there havebeen a few main ways people have
tried to tackle this.
One really common strategy iswhat you might call a
best-of-breed approach.
This is where a company decidesokay, we're going to pick the
absolute best tool for eachspecific job the top rated CRM,
the leading marketing automationplatform, the most robust
accounting software, and so on.
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The thinking is, you getspecialized tools that are
really really good at their onething.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
OK, makes sense on
the surface.
Get the best tool for the job.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Exactly, and the
benefit is that you get highly
optimized functionality in eacharea.
But the downside, it oftencomes down to complexity big
time, because now you have tosomehow make all these different
systems talk to each other,integrate them.
That might mean test anddevelopment work using something
called middleware or relyingheavily on APIs, those
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connection points betweensoftware and all that adds
layers of cost, ongoingmaintenance and, frankly, more
places where things can break.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, that sounds
like a lot of heavy lifting and
potentially expensive.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
It definitely can be.
Then there's another approach,which is more about process
reengineering, basically tryingto change how people work to fit
the tools they already have.
But let's be honest, that oftenfeels like trying to fit a
square peg into a round hole.
It can create friction too.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Hmm, forcing people
to adapt to the tools rather
than the other way around.
What about building somethingfrom scratch?
Custom solutions.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Custom solutions are
another path.
Yep Businesses build their ownsoftware perfectly tailored to
the unique needs.
This gives you, like theultimate flexibility, a perfect
fit for how you work.
However, it's usually the mostexpensive option.
It takes the most time, needsthe most resources.
You're suddenly in the softwaredevelopment business
responsible for everythingbuilding it, maintaining it,
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updating it.
That can quickly becomeoverwhelming, especially for
smaller businesses.
It pulls critical resourcesaway from you.
Know their actual core mission.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Right.
So, given all thosecomplexities, the integration
headaches of best of breed, theinflexibility of process changes
, the cost of custom builds, itseems like many are looking for
a simpler way.
And well, that kind of bringsus to what we've seen with
Pinnacle.
It seems positioned as a directanswer to that frustration,
right to managing that scatteredtech stack.
It feels like it's designedspecifically to bring clarity
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back, an approach focused onsimplifying, not adding more
moving parts.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's precisely the
idea.
Pinnacle's core designphilosophy is pretty
straightforward, really.
It's built as one clear system.
It combines sales, marketingand customer management all
within a single unified platform, and the key thing here, I
think, is that it consciouslyavoids what many people call the
nickel and dime approach.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
The add-ons.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Exactly.
You know those platforms.
They look cheap up front lowbase price but then they charge
extra for things you actuallyneed More users, more storage.
Sometimes even basicintegrations cost extra.
So your costs becomeunpredictable.
They keep climbing as yourbusiness grows.
Pinnacle was built from theground up to be comprehensive,
to bundle those key functionstogether without all the hidden
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charges.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And what I find
really interesting there
especially if you've ever beenhit by surprise bills or those
constant upgrade now pop-ups iswhat Pinnacle includes right
from the start.
You mentioned unlimited users.
That's huge right.
Your whole team can collaboratewithout the cost jumping up
every time you hire someone, andit combines CRM and marketing
automation directly, so thosetwo things finally work together
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smoothly out of the box, whichmeans like your marketing
campaigns can pull real-timecustomer groups straight from
your CRM data for superpersonalized messages, and then
every interaction email open awebsite visit instantly updates
that customer's profile in theCRM, giving your sales team the
full picture without any manualdata entry or syncing delays.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Exactly right.
And those AI-powered helpersyou mentioned, they're not just
fluff.
For example, pinnacle's AImight automatically score
incoming leads based on criteriayou set, or suggest the best
times to reach out based on pastengagement.
It could even help draftinitial replies to common
customer questions stuff thatreally cuts down on the routine
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admin grind.
Freeing up your team for youknow, more strategic work yes,
crucially.
No hitting fees, no confusinglimits.
It's designed forpredictability all included.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Let's make this
really concrete.
Let's look at a real lifeexample.
We heard about Maya who owns ashop down in Charlotte Super
smart, really motivated, lovesher customers, but just felt
constantly behind schedule.
She talked about being burdenedby all these different
subscription fees and just theendless task of learning new
software all the time.
She actually said and I'mquoting her here why does it
feel like I'm working twice ashard just to keep up?
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I'm quoting her here why doesit feel like I'm working twice
as hard just to keep up?
I'm tired of switching betweenfive different apps just to send
an email or check on a lead.
I bet a lot of people listeningcan really relate to that
feeling.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Oh, absolutely.
It's a classic complaint and itperfectly captures that
fragmentation we've been talkingabout.
So, for Maya moving to aunified system like Pinnacle,
well, it was a prettysignificant shift, a
transformation, really.
She got the single, intuitivedashboard that pulled everything
together.
Now her team handles customerrecords, sends out marketing
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campaigns, tracks sales,responds to messages all inside
one system.
Sure, there was probably a bitof a learning curve initially,
like with any new system, butlearning one unified platform
that was much faster than tryingto master five separate,
disconnected tools.
And it really brings up animportant question, doesn't it?
How much time could you save ifeverything was just in one
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place, working together smoothly, instead of constantly trying
to bridge the gaps betweendifferent systems?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And the result from
Maya was pretty clear Less
stress, definitely fewermistakes because data wasn't
being manually moved orduplicated, and, most
importantly, more valuable timeback, time she could actually
spend with her customers,focusing on building her
business, building thoserelationships.
It made a real tangibledifference in her day-to-day
work and her business growth.
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Okay, so that brings up aninteresting point about
different ways platforms handleintegration.
How does Pinnacle's all-in-oneapproach really set it apart
from other solutions?
You might see out there.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, that's a really
critical difference to grasp.
Many other platforms, as wetouched on, often follow that
best-of-breed model.
So you'll find one tool that'sjust a CRM, another that's just
for marketing automation, maybea third for invoicing or project
management, and while that cangive you really deep features in
one specific area, it usuallymeans more integrations you have
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to set up and manage yourself,higher costs because you're
paying multiple monthly bills,and, honestly, just way more
complexity for your team.
You're constantly checking iftool A is properly syncing with
tool B, often needing priceyconnectors or even custom coding
to make it work.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
The integration tax
essentially.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You could call it
that.
Pinnacle, on the other hand,was designed from the very
beginning as an inherentlyunified solution.
They built these core functionsCRM, marketing, sales
management together under onedigital roof, so to speak.
This means the different partsare deeply interconnected by
design.
You skip the headaches ofmanaging multiple vendors,
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multiple logins and thatconstant battle to keep separate
systems in sync.
It's all about providing robust, connected functionality
without dumping the integrationburden back onto you.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
That core simplicity
sounds incredibly valuable One
login to remember, one plan, onebill, much cleaner and you also
mentioned, it's mobile-friendly.
That seems pretty essentialnowadays.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Absolutely.
Being able to manage leads,check customer history or
respond to inquiries from yourphone keeps you connected when
you're not at your desk.
It fits how business oftenworks today.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Okay, let's drill
down on a specific task,
something really common thatoften highlights this difference
.
Let's say, sending a targetedmarketing campaign to your past
customers.
How does Pinnacle simplify thatspecific process compared to
the old way?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Great example.
Let's walk through the contrast.
So the old way.
In many traditional setups it'susually a multi-step kind of
tedious process, right?
First you'd probably export alist of past customers from your
CRM.
You have to make sure youfilter it correctly.
Then you need to import thatlist into your separate email
marketing tool.
Hope the columns match up.
After that you set up theactual campaign, write the email
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, schedule it and then you haveto manually track the responses
Maybe checking the emailplatform for opens and clicks,
checking your inbox for replies,maybe checking the CRM to see
if anyone bought something.
That whole dance can easily eatup hours, pulling you and your
team away from other importantstuff.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, I can see how
that adds up Lots of potential
places for errors too.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Exactly Now.
Compare that to the Pinnacleway, because everything's
unified.
It's fundamentally different.
You just filter your contactlist right there inside the
system using the live customerdata already in your CRM.
Then you write your message,maybe use a template, and send
it all from the same platform.
When customers reply, thosemessages land straight into your
unified inbox, automaticallylinked back to their customer
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profile.
No searching around Any newleads the campaign generates.
They flow immediately into yoursales pipeline with all the
context attached.
So what used to take hours andwas kind of error prone now
takes minutes.
It streamlines the wholeworkflow dramatically and
ensures nothing important fallsthrough the cracks.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
That really paints a
clear picture the difference
between a truly integratedworkflow and a well fragmented
one.
So, thinking about businessesweighing their options right now
, what does this all boil downto?
It really feels like a choice,doesn't it, between sticking
with the status quo or making achange.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
It absolutely is a
choice and the risk of inaction,
of just sticking with thosedisconnected systems.
It's quite clear and it's notjust some vague threat You'll
keep wasting valuable hours onbusy work, stuff that doesn't
actually move the needle foryour business, your team.
They'll likely stay frustrated,spending mental energy just
navigating systems instead offeeling focused and productive.
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And eventually customers donotice when things slip
fragmented communication, missedfollow-ups.
It erodes loyalty and thatfeeling of growth.
It just always feels harderthan it needs to be, like you're
constantly rowing upstream,fighting your own tools.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Right Constantly
fighting fires instead of
building.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Precisely.
But the alternative, the biggerbenefit of moving to a unified
approach.
It's genuinely transformative.
With a unified platform, yourbusiness can finally start to
feel like a well-oiled machineSmooth, efficient.
Instead of that constantjuggling and context switching,
you and your team can actuallyfocus on the work that matters
most Serving your customersreally well, closing deals more
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effectively, building thosestrong long-term relationships.
That operational clarity, thatsmoothness that's what creates
real momentum.
It drives genuine sustainablegrowth.
It lets you innovate and expandwithout being dragged down by
the complexity of your tools.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
It really brings it
home.
Running a business doesn't haveto feel like this constant,
exhausting balancing act tryingto keep too many plates spinning
at once.
The right system, it seems, cangenuinely simplify your day.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
That's exactly right.
Unified platforms like Pinnacleoffer that.
One clear system designed togrow with you.
The whole point is to be simple, steady and, frankly, less
stressful, empowering you tofocus on your mission, your
customers, not just managingsoftware.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
So maybe a final
thought for everyone listening
to consider, Think about yourown day-to-day work, your own
personal Monday problem.
What part of your businessoperations right now could feel
simpler, more connected, moreefficient if you had just one
clear, unified system pulling itall together?
If you're feeling ready toexplore what that kind of system
could actually do for yourbusiness, you can book a demo
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today over at getpinnacleai.