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January 23, 2025 44 mins

Listen in as Kristine and Joseph discuss:

  • What avocado toast has to do with narrative change
  • Who’s worthy of investment and what we lose when we don’t realize it
  • How to center and insist on joy
  • Somersaulting as a management tool
  • Why work in cities is powerful
  • The vision of Living Cities that everyone in an American city can live an abundant, economically sustainable, thriving, connected and healthy life 


Key Takeaways:

  • We need to have the means, the hope, and the will to see and invest in each other and our shared future
  • Narratives change all the time. It’s subtle, it’s powerful, and it’s our responsibility to see and affect the change
  • By 2045, the US is going to be a “minority majority” country. Investing in different groups, people, communities is not charity, it’s not doing anyone a favor. It’s the only way we will realize the full potential of who we are as a country.
  • Local stories matter. Language stories matter. The narratives of people in our communities matter, where they came from, where they’re at, and where they’re going in the future.



"I find that when you bring people together around joy, when you bring people together around culture, food, the stories of our families, of our communities, those things that make us smile, those things that give us pride, those things that make us feel connected, very quickly we go beyond the barriers." — Joseph Scantlebury

About Joseph Scantlebury: Joe Scantlebury is the President and CEO of Living Cities, a collaborative of prominent foundations and financial institutions working together to close racial income and wealth gaps in U.S. cities. In this role, Joe leads the design and execution of innovative solutions in homeownership and entrepreneurship as wealth-building strategies.

Prior to joining Living Cities, Joe served as vice president for program strategy at the W.K. Kellogg Foundation where he designed, led and implemented strategic programming efforts to improve the lives of vulnerable children and families in the Foundation’s priority places. As senior program officer at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation in Washington, D.C., he led state policy advocacy within a subset of priority Northeast and Mid-South states, as well as civil rights and equity work. He also served as a staff attorney at the Youth Law Center in Washington, where he advocated and litigated nationally to reduce disproportionate minority confinement and addressed conditions within the juvenile justice system.


Joe received a Bachelor of Science from Cornell University’s New York State School of Industrial & Labor Relations. He holds a Juris Doctor from New York University School of Law.


Connect with Joseph: 

Website: https://livingcities.org/ 

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