**SATURDAY SPOTLIGHT** Philosophy, Politics, and the Pursuit of Liberty/ Guest: Colonel Mathias Mueller (Ep. 61) - The Podcast with Joe Rooz

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Alright. Now that it's just us here over on Rumble, and we have everybody else gone,
I'm gonna take a sip of my cup I I and I'm hoping that our our guest has some coffee because I know it's early early morning over there. Are you with us there, Matthias? I'm I'm with you. I'm with you. Can you hear me? Yes, I do. Very well. Very well. Perfect. Perfect. Yeah. Alright. So, So, thanks for having me. Cheers to you, my friend. Cheers to you. Thank you.

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So I didn't give him a proper intro here, but,
sitting with us across the way, and when I say across the way, I'm talking about on the other side of the cut of the world.
Broad, you're in Switzerland. Right? I'm in Switzerland. He's in Switzerland. Alright. So we have, and I'm gonna use your your title here. Alright? Because I'm very impressed by this. Alright? I I I love I love I love folks that serve in the military. We have,

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Colonel
Matthias Mueller. Correct?
That's correct. Alright. Colonel Matthias Mueller of the of the Swiss Army is joining us tonight. This is great. I have been looking forward to this since we first made contact
on, on PodMatch. This is I've been looking forward to this because, you know, I have a lot of respect for the folks that serve in the military wherever it is. You know, it takes a very special person to be able to do that. I tried to do it myself, I I wasn't able to,

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and I regret it, and and I and I wish I was able to to serve my country
in that in that capacity,
but,
I, I I I hold I hold anybody who could who could dedicate their lives
to serving their country,
it's it's just it to me, it's it's the greatest form of sacrifice and service you can do.

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And so, thank you for your service, and I don't know if they do that Thank you. Over there in Switzerland, but I know here in The United States it's a very big thing. Thank you again for your service, sir. Really do appreciate it.
So I was looking over your profile,
and
a couple of things kind of jumped out at me.
The stoic pirate?

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What is a stoic pirate?
Tell us about that.
Well, the stoic pirate is my, my synonym. I have a podcast a podcast as well. It's actually well, I have it in German. There it's called Der Stoj Shipira, but it's a stoic pirate. I have also a website already, the stoic pirate. So I like the name. But, the stoic pirate is
is a guy who's like,

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on his
quest for to look for the better life or a good life. And it's a it's in my podcast, I'm talking about philosophy. I'm talking about
politics and talking about,
psychology, leadership.
Everything that's kinda like, I think comes together if you look at the, you know, at the zeitgeist.

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You know, what's going on? And and there's so much
there's more than just, like, pure politics. It's I think it's a lot of psychology, a lot of philosophy.
And,
and so so that's that's what I'm talking about. And don't know why the name? Well, first, I like the stoic philosophy.
I think stoicism is one of

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the most hands on practical
philosoph philosophy
that we can,
have. And then the pirate, well, the pirates are
very interesting,
very interesting group of people. And I'm talking about the pirates of the golden age. The golden age was, mid seventeenth century till about,

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the until the beginning of the eighteenth century.
And
I real and and they're very misunderstood
in most people totally misunderstand the pirates. They see them as criminals, as
rapists,
pill they rape, they pillage, whatever. Mhmm. But they were actually
people who were searching for a better society. They were people who escaped from

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tyranny
to try to build up a better
society and they
had a lot of love inventions stated
that, are very impressive, I think.
Well, as So that's why the stoic pirate. Yeah. Okay. Well, as you see, I have your, your website up here Yes. Up on the screen. And,
I was on your website earlier. I did sign up over here and,

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but,
yeah. I don't I'm not sure if I did it correctly because it's in is that German? German. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So
I don't speak German. I do some in English sometimes. Like, I do and I am actually trying I'm thinking of doing a second podcast where I'm just talking in English, and I'm just having English, guests. And I was also looking at your book

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Yep. Up here. Do you have an English version of it?
Not yet, but I could. I mean, it's Okay. I could translate it. I I was actually asked a couple times already. Yeah. Okay. Well, you're gonna be asked a third time. So, Okay.
Because I would love to get a copy of it, but I it, you know, it would have helped if I could understand it. So Yeah.
Alright.
But, but this this your website's great. I I I went through it earlier today, and, I actually clicked on a couple of the of the shows that you have posted here. Again, mostly in German, so I didn't really understand it, but I got an idea and a sense of where you were going with the show, and I think I think you do a a really, really good program.

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And I would recommend anybody to go check it out.
It's, muellermathias.ch,
and, let me see if I can translate it.
I think it does. It does, but it's it's saying the page couldn't be translated right now. So Okay. Alright. No no big deal. No big deal. I'll I'll try it out my own time. I won't I won't take up your time because I know you're tired. So

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No. No. It's okay. This This probably reminds you of the days when you were serving actually in active duty. Right? Getting up early in the morning. Well, yes. Well, I I'm actually still I'm I'm still active. Oh, you are? I'm still a colonel. Yeah. I am. I'm, I'm you know, in Switzerland, the the military is,
we have a conscript service, system. So
most of our guys are

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are citizen soldiers. Mhmm. There is a few like me who are professionals Right. Who I'm I'm
I enter the military. Every able man has to enter the military at nineteen twenty. It's a mandatory service. It's it's mandatory in Switzerland.
So you do your mandatory
service. It's like you do a four months period, and then you do for six years, a three week period.

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And that's and then you're till 32, you're in as a reservist.
And and then there are guys like me, I, when I was you you can go up the ranks also as a a conscript, as a
as a, we call it we call it actually militia.
Okay.
A lot of guys people don't understand what it means if you should say militia, but it's so so I go I went up to captain, and then I entered as a as a professional,

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soldier. There's only about two, three thousand professionals
in Switzerland.
And now I'm a I'm a colonel in the actually in the yeah.
So you're still still working. We we we have to work till we're 65.
Like, that's not like in other countries where you're, like, after twenty five serve years of service, you can leave and have a great pension. Well, yeah. It it depends here though. Like like, I worked I worked for New York City,

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in law enforcement. I I
I served,
for twenty five years
in overall my city service. I worked at another city agency prior to the agency I retired from. I I worked in in uniform law enforcement. I also worked in as an investigator for my agency.
I ended my career in in department operations.
I also worked for a year for the, US Department of State and Diplomatic Security Service in uniform branch.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you get the twenty five years of service,
but you really can't, like, I can't I'm 50 I'm 54 now.
I still can't collect my pension
Okay. From the my city service because I don't have the age yet. I had the time in service, but I don't have the age to collect. The age to start collecting is, I think they bumped it up now to 60.

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So I have to wait another six years before I can collect my pension.
Yeah. Otherwise, I could have stayed working for the city.
But, but I opted out, and I moved down here to Texas, and, I've been loving it
ever since. So it's been great. But an interesting thing you said, talking about how people don't understand what a militia is.
Same thing here in this country. There there is there is so much debate over what the militia is,

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especially around our second amendment, which I'm you're familiar with, I'm sure. Yes.
So,
and and that's and that's where a lot of the gun grabbing here in The United States comes from. You know, they don't understand that the militia is actually the citizenry.
Exactly. You know, and the well trained militia
is is people who take it upon themselves to to learn how to handle firearms

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and to, to act in in accordance with the rules of engagement.
So,
so it's very interesting. It it it really is. And and I think that I I actually think because it because Switzerland and The United States at the very outset of or the birth of The United States
had a very
close relationship.
Yep. And I think a lot of a lot of what The United States pulled from was from

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the Swiss form of government, as well as, of course, English government, English common law, and so on and so forth.
So it it was
so so there is a lot of similarities
in in how we Yes. How we do things.
I'm very I'm very surprised,
impressed, actually. You're one of the first Americans who know that who knows that. Well You know, I was I lived one year. I was in 02/2006. I was in Fort Benning in the US army. Mhmm. I was, I spent a year there.

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And, so I know
so I I'm impressed because, not many people know that.
We are actually called Sister Republics. Yes.
And and the founding fathers
actually took a lot of they they were they were like two fractions I I read. Like some they were like pro Swiss and they were like the more anti Swiss. The more anti Swiss were more British oriented, I think. Yes. And the pros and then they were the pro Swiss.

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And there was a lot of stuff that was taken from our style of government That's right. That entered in the in The US in The US, ideas in the in the in the idea of the state of The United Of The United States. And That's correct. One of them was the citizen soldier.
Yes. That, the soldier is like a a farmer,
whatever,
a carpenter, whatever. But I mean, when time needs it, he he takes his rifle from that he has at home That's correct. And he defends his country. That's correct. And so we still do have that.

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Like, we still have that and we have also and a lot of Americans are very surprised and also other
Canadians and whatever.
When when we say that The fifty first date. Yeah.
When
when every household in Switzerland has at least one gun. Yeah.
And and it's a it's an assault rifle. And it's handed by the government to the people who serve it. You can keep it. That's right. Yeah. So you so so this is a I think it's a a beautiful thing.

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Not because I'm a gun nut, but I think it's the it's the respect for or, like, the the government who trusts the people.
It's a sign of trust also. And it that's how it has to be. It's not the people who have to trust the government. Like, it's well, it's like the government
is still serving
the people. Yeah. And it's the other way around. Yeah. And it's and that's a great thing. And and and what I like also is, like, we have, like, the lowest crime rate

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in whole Europe. You know? There's, like, no shootings, nothing.
Okay. It's in some ways, we also have no
not much crime. It's on the rise too because of migration and all that. But but,
but, yeah, you you don't really burglar somebody in Switzerland because you know they have an assault rifle at home and plus they know how to shoot. That's correct. And it's and it's interesting too, like, because because because here in Texas, for example, right, Texas,

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we have,
you have your your permitted carry. You had your you have you also have your constitutional carry where, you know, you don't necessarily have to have a a physical permit to do it. There are and that's a misconception by the way here, and so if any of my listeners, you know, don't understand that.
But constitutional carry is a great thing, but there are limitations to the constitutional carry. You're better off getting your license. Okay?

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First of all, it makes it a lot easier to purchase, a firearm because you don't have to go through the background check as, rigorously as you do if you didn't have a have your license because it's already there. It's already done.
But, you're also, under constitutional carry, you're limited to bringing your firearm into certain locations and areas at certain days and times and so on and so forth. But the the beautiful thing about living in Texas is it's very similar to what you're describing as where where you are, is that,

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people here,
you can carry concealed,
you can carry open.
That's why crime rate yeah. Again, like you say,
it's increasing because of the migration issue.
You know, unfortunately, that's the case, but, I just realized why it was so dark in here. There we go.
Okay.

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Yes, because of the migration issue for sure. Yeah. There's an increase in where I live particularly. I live in Eagle Pass, which is right on the border with Mexico.
You know, you yeah. You see that increase in that that uptick in in in crime,
but
on the whole,
violent crime
is really not bad at all because

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people carry here. You know. It's it's I carry every day. I I I don't leave my house without,
you know, I I have my I have my my Glock 19 that I carry with me everywhere I go. I have I have a I have I have a a sig that I sleep with. I go so it's under it's it's in my nightstand right next to the pillow. You know, I I I have it. And I'll tell you an interesting story. So,

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where I live right now,
my studio, like, I call it the asylum. This is in my house. I actually I took one bedroom in my house, and I just gutted the whole thing out and made a studio.
So I've been living here for just a oh, maybe, I don't know, maybe two months, three months.
And, at at 06:00 on a Saturday morning, there's a my knocking on my door.

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And, so I my dog started freaking out, and, so we, you know, the three of us go over to the door to see what it is, and of course, now I have my my pistol right there.
And, I open it up, and it's somebody I perceived to be a migrant
asking me if I was interested in renting my house to them
for cash.
And I was like,
no.

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And shit. And then he offered me more money,
But the whole time that he's talking to me, he's kinda like, you know, craning, like
Yeah. Wanting to see what's behind me. So when he when he when I saw that, you know, my law enforcement angst thing kinda kicked in a little bit more, like, you know, the you know, the spider sense, you know, spider man, you know, spider sense started tingling. You know, I just I just reached over and I and I and I pulled the pistol out and I I stood there at the door holding it like this in front of me, and he just said excuse me and he walked away.

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You know?
So it's just it was probably that's probably the most harrowing experience I've had living here in Texas.
But,
but, yes, and you're and you're absolutely right. There is there is a definite connection between Yeah. The government, the formation of government. There's a lot in our in our constitution, in the constitution of the of The United States as a whole, because each state has its own constitution as well. But the constitution of United States as as a whole

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borrowed a lot from other
European countries.
Yeah. And that's what put put it all together. So so it there is definite there's a a huge connection between,
the Swiss government,
and other European governments, and The United States. And it's something that, you know, that that that's
that I'm surprised well, I I really can't say I'm surprised that a lot of people more people don't know about it because

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the the the government education or the the government indoctrination
programs here in the in The United States,
you know, they don't really teach civics anymore. They don't teach
American history. The the only American history they teach is the negative aspects of American history. You know? But that's a little bit the same here. Oh, it's really?
In Europe, it's just a little bit Switzerland's maybe a little bit better, but it's, like, it's a little bit similar what you say. It's, like, it's all negative what Europe did. It's all negative with the

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with the, yeah, the Western world did, and we have to celebrate all the other stuff.
So yeah. But, you know, I also one an interesting thing maybe, you talked about the constitution.
And you The US took a lot of ideas from European countries. Mhmm. And Switzerland actually because we didn't have a constitution till, like, 1850.

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Like, it's really like we were we are we're still considered a confederation.
Okay. Like like, do you think we're the only one in the world, like, still more or less a confederation?
Also with every state, we call it the canton, has its own rights. Like, they're they there's a lot of there's more and more federalized,
more centralized,
but there's still a lot of power in the in the state. Mhmm. So we're a confederation. And we we actually took

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the American constitution
one to one and just translate it. Really? So our our Constitution is based on the American Constitution. Of course, in the meantime, it changed a lot. Sure. Because,
what what, we have is,
we have semi semi direct democracy

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that is,
which is also very unique, I think, in the world. Like, we vote about everything. Mhmm. Like, it's not it's not the parliament who just can decide. We can decide everything.
And, we also, if you, as a citizen, you can
you collect 100,000
signatures,
and you we vote about it. Whatever funny idea you have. It can be a good idea. It can be like, we had a guy who was collecting,

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we had to vote about that. It's no joke.
He didn't want that farmers cut the horns of the cows.
Okay. So he found enough people who signed that, and so we voted about that. He lost,
And the farmers can still cut the horns. But, just to say, like, the people have a lot to say here. We and and that's something

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so the the constitution changed, of course, in the in the last, hundred fifty, hundred seventy years. For sure.
But,
I often say to my American friends, this
we are more American
today than The US. Yes. Like like, if you if you look at the found like, at the idea of the founding fathers. Yeah. So we have it's not perfect here at all. There's a lot of

(31:01):
yeah. Well, there is no perfect there is no perfect system of government, you know. But the I mean That's true.
I
I I well, there actually is
a perfect
system of government, but if I say what it is without explaining it, people are gonna freak out.
Okay?
The but you so so I'm I'm gonna go on a whim here. I'm gonna just I'm gonna say it, you know, at the risk of of freaking people out, and I'll explain it if I need to.

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The the the perfect form of government is actually a dictatorship.
But, here's the caveat to that.
You have to have the right dictator, and the only right dictator you're gonna ever have that's gonna be perfect is the Lord Jesus Christ.
I I am a bible believing Christian, you know, born again Christian, you know,

(31:53):
so that's the direction that I take it. But, you know, I don't I don't like, I don't expect people to understand that. That's why I say, and then with the caveat that people are gonna freak out when I say it, you know, but that's what it is. But,
the,
the the the next best one down the list, if you wanna go that way, if you wanna term it that way, it would be a constitutional republic,

(32:16):
you know, and because a direct democracy is just mob rule that you you you're talking, you know, the the the 50 plus one.
So it's,
you know, but
putting
how how am I gonna put it?
The United States, when when when okay. Let me back up this way. When when The United States was first

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founded or or was born out of out of revolution,
it wasn't a central
powerful government. It wasn't an it wasn't that, you know, you hear the the one nation under God thing. It wasn't one nation.
It was 13
individual
sovereign countries.

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Sovereign states, which is the same thing, synonymous, state and country, same thing. Right? We talk about the state of Israel. We talk about the state of North Korea. We talk about, you know, the the state of this.
That doesn't mean they're part of The United States.
Right? They're a separate individual sovereign country.
So the 13 original states

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were individual
countries
that compacted together or confederated together
for very specific things. And among those was mutual defense
and and common trade.
Over the years, as as The United States grew, as more states became in,

(33:45):
and I wanna say this carefully,
voluntarily
joined the union of states,
more and more power was ceded to a centralized government,
which
slowly but surely, and it's this is across all parties. I'm not just talking about the liberals and the concern.

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All parties
are involved in this.
Little by little,
states
ceded their authority
to the central government,
which is why The United States right now finds itself in the situation that it's in, with a very powerful
oligarchic
type of

(34:26):
authority, authoritarian type of a state right now.
And I don't know if you know this or not, but did you know that that that right now
in The United States, there are 25 states
that have secession
legislation working its way through the legislative process?
I I heard about it. I I don't know how strong they are. I heard that they're getting stronger. Yes.

(34:50):
As here in Texas, I, I don't know if you saw the the cup, you know, hashtag Texas. Yes. Okay. So and I have my I have my Texit. My Texit. Independent state. Yeah. Texas independence flag back here, you know, and people said, well, you're not really a Texan, you know, you you you transplant.
Listen, I'm a Texan. I I I in spirit, I'm a Texan. I may not be a Texan by blood, but I'm a Texan by spirit.

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So, and actually, I am part of an organization. I am the I'm the deputy county coordinator
for the Texas Nationalist Movement,
which is a political action committee
that is seeking to
see a free and independent Texas.
So
right now, this particular organization that I'm a part of

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is 700,000
people strong
within this state. Yeah. And
in the last,
statewide election,
the there are more
Texas first
representatives
in this Texas state house
at this time than there ever has been

(36:00):
in the history of the organization.
So
there are more
Texas state representatives
who have signed on to the Texas
first pledge
than in any other time
in the history of the organization.
So the reality of the state of Texas
Now if Texas left The United States, Texas itself would become the eighth largest economy

(36:24):
in the world
in the world. The eighth in the in the entire world. That that's amazing when you think about it. Amazing. Yeah. You know,
right now, 40 I think it's 41%
or 42%
of the entire United States military
are Texans. Texas. Yeah. Right? So you think

(36:47):
all of those purse all those personnel
get recalled back to Texas.
Now, one of the big questions that people ask a lot is, well, okay. Well, you know, so if Texas leaves the Texas leaves, you know, they they they commit treason, they leave, and,
you know,
what happens to like all of the military

(37:08):
installations that, you know, Texas got to build all these military bases. No.
Because
all the military installations that are here in Texas
are leased
to the federal government.
They're not owned by the federal government. They're leased.
So they leave,

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they automatically become
part of the Texas military department,
which we already have. We already have our own military department. We already have our own state guard. We already have the infrastructure in place to stand alone.
We don't need the rest of the Texas
has an independent power grid.

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We're not part of the entire United States national power grid.
We stand alone.
We have all the natural resources at our disposal. We have all the all the,
we have all the the oil you need, all the all the all the shale, we have the coal, we have
plenty of open farmland,
ranches,

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we have warm water seaports,
we have everything that you need
to stand alone.
And I personally believe it's gonna happen within my lifetime that Texas is going to eventually
separate from The United States and stand up by itself.
But other states too, like, believe it or not, California

(38:31):
has CalExit.
They have the the and it's growing. It's it's growing in movement.
Louisiana,
Missouri,
most of the Southern states
have these,
these separation movements. I don't wanna say secession because it's a here it's a it's a very negative connotation to it. You know, people think, you know, well, they're gonna see, you know, as soon as they leave, they're gonna institute slavery again. No. That's so stupid, you know. Why? You know, people are just so freaking ignorant sometimes.

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But, I have to censor myself, so, you know. But, but but it's a reality, and it's something that's actually coming down the road. So,
it it's a very interesting time that we're living in. I think we kind of gotten a a little bit of a reprieve
with,
with president Trump coming back into office,
because he is working to, you know, well, one of the big gripes, of course, was, especially where I live in Eagle Pass. I mean, I'm right here at the border. I could walk into Mexico from here, From where I live, I'm like not even two minutes

(39:33):
drive from the Mexico border.
So,
you know,
this is where the standoff was between the federal government and the state of Texas. Right? Was was five minutes away from me at Shelby Park. Okay.
You know, so
this is like the hub of it all.
As a matter of fact, just, last week, I think it was, they they,

(39:55):
the local police, the Eagle Pass Police Department arrested two peep two,
migrants
that were fully equipped. They they were wearing,
wet suits,
and they had, they had snorkel gear, and they had those those high powered,
I forgot what I forgot what they're called, but you you hold on to them and and it powers you through the water.

(40:18):
It's almost like a jet ski, but you're underwater. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. You know,
you know, coming across, and I think that's insane.
But but this is where it's this is where it all is. This is where it's all happening.
And,
you know, under the Biden administration, the previous administration, that that, you know, there was a lot of,
you know, there there were a lot of pissed off people here.

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As a matter of fact,
this region
voted
Republican for the first time.
Really? For the first time, and I think like fifty years,
it went majority red.
So it was it's it was a very interesting time, but now, of course, you know, Trump comes in, he secures the he locks the border down. I think border crossings are are down 95%

(41:06):
now.
You're not getting that that mad people are actually self deporting. They're actually leaving the country on their own.
So there's a little bit of reprieve there.
But the tent but but the sentiment that, you know, the federal system is broken,
and and it needs to be completely torn down and redone.

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Is that gonna happen? Probably not.
Probably not. There there there are just too many, you know, the the the global
influence
is just too strong, and and
what's gonna end up happening is is it's gonna
the the the union of states.
See, you know, have you have the European Union. I call it the American Union.

(41:50):
The American Union's gonna eventually collapse.
You know? And I'm not saying I want that I don't wanna see that happen. I love I love the country that that
America
was and can be again.
I love the idea of what America is. America is not The United States. The America
is that independence,

(42:11):
that that that self serving. The only thing that I the only thing that I want the government to do,
the only thing that I want the government to do, I mean,
is to is to protect
and preserve
my right
to take care of myself. Yeah. I don't want them telling me that you can only have 1.5 gallons to flush in your toilet. No. I I don't need that. I don't need my life micromanaged by government.

(42:41):
You know?
The state governments
work better because they're closer to the people.
Like you were saying, you know, the people have more say.
I know it's a long roundabout way to get back to what you were saying. I'm sorry. It's true. But the state governments are closer to the people, so the people have more control over what goes on in the states. I've always advocated

(43:03):
that I don't really care what Washington is doing.
I care what's going on in my state.
Because I have Actually,
you you care what's not only in your state, you care what's going on where you live. Correct. Yeah. So it's Yeah. It all trickles down. I think it all trickles down. And I think we have to decentralize
and we had

(43:23):
the the most possible, the most important unity is the family.
I think that's where you that's that's the most important. Preach your brother. Your neighborhood. And then you then there's,
your your village or your town, and then you're you're reaching it, and and then it's the state. And only then comes your country. Mhmm. And I think we had in the last

(43:43):
since the fall of the Berlin Wall. That's my theory. Since the fall fall of the Berlin Wall, since the the end of the Cold War,
The the Western world was just going globalizing
everything. We said they thought, like, oh, it's gonna be growth,
nonstop
growth, every and we can, like and and and we have to there was also the European Union that was created, which is a I tell you, it's a big failure Mhmm. Because it's it's not a it's it's a basically, it's dictatorship from from Brussels.

(44:14):
We're the we're not part, which I'm very proud. Yeah. We had a movement, in the nineties that we were, like, never we're not gonna
join. People told us in the nineteen nineties when we voted against it, because the politicians, the government, they wanted to join. They said, oh, of course, we have to join the European Union. Oh, we wanna be part of it. And they told us,

(44:35):
listen. In twenty, thirty years, if we don't join, Switzerland, we'd be on the bottom. We will be a country
with, like, no GDP. We will be poor and anything.
The contrary happens. The European Union is, like, going down. We are still going up. And,
so I think we really have to decentralize
as much as possible. Mhmm. And I I like the idea of The United States Of America because it was, as you said before, you know, it was independent states together. It's the same in Switzerland. They

(45:05):
when Switzerland was founded in 12/1991,
there were three regions together.
And all day went, they said, let's work together against this Habsburg in that was the Austrian,
the biggest power world power back then.
We have to fight them. Why? Because they come collect taxes. So it's it's a very interesting visit to The USA.

(45:25):
It started about taxes. It started here also about taxes because the the aristocrats from Austria A 2¢ tax on. Right.
They they they came and said, oh, let's you guys have to pay taxes. And our farmers said, you know what? Leave us the hell alone.
We have nothing to do with your Reich with your,
whatever. We are we don't pay, but we don't pay. And that's all we protect you. We say, we don't need your protection.

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So three got together, and the funny thing is they
they they beat the world power back then.
Farmers beat the world power because why? The the
the the they came the knights came on horses with their old with their armor, and the farmers came on foot with, like, long sticks, and they they were much more agile. They threw rocks on them and everything. Right. So at the end, there were three, four, five battles, and,

(46:15):
we had our independence. What we never had in Switzerland,
we never had a president, we never had we never had a monarch.
And that's an interesting thing too. And I think
that's something
you said before a good dictator, and I get that. The good dictator,
I there were like five, six in history that you can say,
emperors or so that were good. Right.

(46:37):
That they were, but and there were also some dictators that started good, but they
power corrupts, and they turned
psycho after a while. What's that quote? It's it's it's absolute power corrupts absolutely or something like that? Yeah. It's something like that. Yes. Yes. Exactly. And it is true. It is true. It's you see it. Like, it's not good to have too much power. And that's

(47:00):
why in Switzerland, and that is something I really like, we don't give absolute power. Mhmm. So we don't have a president.
We have seven ministers.
They share together
the power,
and it's the Department of Defense, Department of Economy, Department of Justice,
and so together,
they have to find and they're what's interesting is it's the three biggest parties

(47:23):
that are represented.
Mhmm. It's my party is in there. There is
four parties in. There's four most
in the biggest the strongest fourth strongest party
have the seven seats.
So they have to go in not it's not a choke. They go in a little chamber.
Nobody can go in. They talk about all the stuff, and they have to come out with one opinion.

(47:47):
They have to find a solution, and then they stand for and you and my like, there's two, ministers from my party in there.
Sometimes they have to say
something that is not for that we, the party, don't like, but it's them together. They they said that's how we send. And they're and that's I I kinda like that because it takes the power away from everybody.

(48:10):
It's like, there's not one guy who can just dictate and say, I'll do this and that. It's like, that doesn't go. Right. Makes the system a little bit slow.
It but it's,
but it's we I always say we're not as fast
progressing maybe like others, but is progress really that good always?
So That's a good point. A very good point. So so,

(48:31):
so we also make much less quick mistakes.
We we walk steady forward, but but slower than others. And others, they run forward and then they have to step back again. So Right. And and and and what you said made me think of all of these executive orders that that our our government comes up with. Right? So and that brings a lot of instability also because it's not something that's actually legislative.

(48:53):
It's not something that that the the the House of Representatives
voted on, this is the will of the people, this is what we want, these are executive orders, executive actions,
and it's like, well, just just think about the last the last few administrations here in The United States. You had okay. So you had Barack Obama.
Alright. He came in, bunch of executive orders.

(49:15):
Donald Trump comes in, undoes all of his executive orders with his own executive orders,
then Biden comes
in, undoes all of Trump's executive orders, and puts his own executive orders in,
and then Trump comes back, and he undoes all of Biden's executive orders, puts his own executive orders in.
That's what
that's what too big of a government

(49:35):
becomes.
And it it borders on becoming that type of,
almost like a dictatorship in a way. Yes. You know, because, you know, out here, I'm I'm I'm ruling by executive fiat. I'm telling you that this is what we're gonna do, this is how we're gonna go about it. Yep. The people had no say in it.
Yep. So, I mean, and then you I mean, you could argue the point, well, well, you know, you know, you you know, he's the president of The United States, he was he was he received the most votes. He received the most he won the electoral college.

(50:07):
He won, which I think was absolute genius
that our founding generation put in the electoral college, and that's another discussion. But absolute genius.
And then you have well, you know, like like for Donald Trump, this this year, this this election cycle, he won, obviously the electoral college, but he also won the popular vote. First time the Republican won a popular vote in since I think,

(50:33):
fifty years. Well, since Reagan, though. Reagan. Yes. Yes. Reagan. So
you so you you I I lost my train of thought.
So you have you have
the point is the executive orders are becoming
so pervasive,
and all it does is bring instability.
Yep. You know, okay, so for the next three or four years, I'm gonna have I know this is gonna happen. What's gonna happen after that?

(50:58):
Nothing is legislated,
and that's that's a big part, and that's what happens when you have too big of a government. It becomes ruling by executive fiat,
not the not the decision of the people's representatives at the house.
And that's why I I really do believe that there there's a great book,
it it was called it's called,

(51:19):
Redefining the American Union for the twenty first century.
Alright. I don't know if it's still in print. I I was looking for it not too long ago, and I couldn't really find it anywhere. I even looked on Amazon. I I could all I saw was, like, digital copies of it, but I like to hold a physical book in my hand. I don't like digital Yeah. Books. But,
it's a series of essays
talking about

(51:39):
how
the time has come for the American Union to break up into smaller okay. Here's a dirty word now.
Confederacies.
Yep. Smaller confederacies,
because
it brings the government closer to the people
who is the actual authority
in any government. The people are the authority. Yes. You know, when you have when you have a government that's afraid of the people, you have freedom.

(52:06):
Yes. When you have it the other way around, where the people are afraid of the government, you have tyranny.
Absolutely. And that's what that's
unfortunately,
that's where I see The United States going.
Little by little,
slowly,
step by step, it's falling into that globalist
tyranny. You look look at what happened with Yeah. You know, you think about look what happened with COVID. Right? You had an organization, the World Health Organization, not

(52:35):
not an elected body
by anybody.
No. Dictating policy
Yeah. That affected you, that affected me, that affected this part, that part, you know, part. You can't leave your house between these hours. You have to wear a mask in this place and that place, all directed by the World Health Organization. You have to take you have to take, a vaccine,

(52:56):
and I use that word loosely because it's really not a vaccine, it's a gene therapy.
You have to take this, otherwise, you're you're not gonna be allowed to go here, you're not gonna be allowed to go there, you can't do this, you can't you can't work. At
I work in healthcare.
Alright? The Biden administration said, anybody who works in the healthcare industry has to have the has to have the shot Yeah. By a certain date, otherwise,

(53:20):
you're out of a job.
Bro, I'm gonna tell you honestly, I held out,
and not just my other people too, I'm sure, but I held out.
My my regional boss called me up one, and he's like, did you get it? No.
Dude, you have to take it. I'm not taking it.
Alright. Well then, if you don't take it by if you don't take it by the end of the week, don't come to work Monday. Alright. Fine. I won't come to work Monday.

(53:44):
No problem.
You know, and
at the end of the day, on that Friday,
they called and said, okay, they lifted the the requirement, you don't have to take a shot. Oh, good. Great. I'll see you Monday.
You know, but
that's but that's the that's that's what happens. These unelected
bureaucrats
Yep.
End up getting control. And that's and that's their, unfortunately, the direction that that the world is going.

(54:09):
Yeah. No. Absolutely. And I think I think actually the idea behind this,
the goal, I think, is to have once a world government. Absolutely. Yeah. One world government, one world currency.
Yes. One current exactly. One currency, and and it's a digital currency, of course. So we can control, we can all do all that stuff. So there's it started with the World Health Organization.

(54:32):
You see the whole climate
change
stuff. Mhmm. It's also they also say, look. This is something
a country cannot solve alone. We have to do it together. Its climate is global.
So it's a ghost it's the same narrative. Mhmm. Exactly. Everything
is a is a global threat. So we and we have to work together. And so since people are too stupid to handle their own their problems, we need a a body, like, we need a government who tells to tell us what we have to do. That's right. And I think it goes all in this direction. And I think

(55:04):
they
they exaggerated so much in the last thirty years
that that's what you said with about The USA. I think The USA stopped being The USA. Like, you know, it's like Yeah. Like, what what the idea of the founding fathers was, which is a a role model for the whole world, I think. And and it stopped being that, which started with it started with the Bush administration, I think. It's it's it went on with Obama. It became more and more centralized, more and more,

(55:32):
dictating from Washington. In Europe, it's more and more dictating from Brussels. I mean, they make laws that are ridiculous
that are ridiculous, you know, like like in
in in in European Union, they have laws where they they decide how how,
how the size of a cucumber.
You know, like We laugh, but it's true though. That's that's true. No. But it's true. It's like it's like, you know, like, it's ridiculous how they wanna dictate

(55:56):
our lives, how they wanna regulate everything.
And
and now the latest is and I'm the Trump administration, I'm glad about that, that he said he doesn't want a digital currency right now, central bank digital currency. European Union wants to introduce a digital currency
from October
year on, 02/2025.

(56:17):
Mhmm. Now there is pause there are there are ideas behind
that money will have an expiration date.
Wow. You have to imagine that. There are such ideas. I don't say I'm I'm not saying it's coming. Right. It's but it's floating. But there Yeah. There's it's floating. They say, you know,
because money it's not good if people save money. You know, that's Keynes.

(56:39):
You know, it's
just if you have to spend money. So Right. Let's say you you earn you earn your monthly salary
that is has an expiration date till the end of the month because you get something. You know, you don't need more.
You know, you shall spend it. So what do you do?
You know, it's like you you will not in an end you don't owe you the you heard about that. You will own anything, nothing, but you will still be happy. Yeah. Agenda 2030.

(57:04):
Exactly. That goes exactly in this direction. You'll own nothing in life. You cannot.
Exactly. You can have everything because you can spend it. You know you can buy your phone on on on then you pay it down the next twenty months. You buy your everything is down payments,
but you never will own it. You will lease it. And then the other idea they have is to program

(57:25):
the money.
So they could tell you, hey, Joe. Listen. For the climate for the good of the
the the greater good and for the global,
climate,
your money, you're only allowed to buy one kilo of meat a month. Mhmm. And if you wanna buy more meat,
it's it's not gonna go because your money is programmed. Right. And I think it goes it it you see all this, like,

(57:48):
this it all goes in the direction of a globe like, a global
government
and all regulated,
controlled,
dictated
by one body.
And,
and that's why I think also that this movements, like you your the Texas Nationals movement, there's more and more like that. Because people feel that. Mhmm. These sovereignists

(58:08):
movements that are coming up like that. I like that.
And, yeah, it's just like and I think there's more and more like that. And,
I mean,
it's like
as we said before,
the best for the world I think would
be the more decentralized,
the more the smaller
entities we have. We were born as when well, not we were born, but we were when we were hunter gatherers. We didn't we lived in in in tribes of a hundred to a 50 people probably because that's that we were able to govern, and everybody looked out for each other. We don't there you don't even need

(58:45):
a a government because you can decide together.
You know, it's like government is only needed the bigger the bigger the
the society gets Mhmm. The bigger the bureaucracy, the bigger the the administration.
That's right.
And and then the it is also the power of the administration, the power of bureaucracy that comes in. And the individual voice

(59:06):
becomes diluted
and then event and then not only diluted, but then eventually muted.
Exactly. And that's what is that? That is socialism.
Yep. It's the collective above the individual. That's right. See, each according to his need from each according to his ability. Exactly. Exactly. So that's the I think that's the direction we're going, we're heading. Mhmm. And,

(59:29):
but I'm still hopeful. I to be honest, I'm still I'm I'm hopeful, and I think, especially if I talk with young you know what I you talk with young people, with 20 year olds and 19 year olds, they're much more common sense than
people our age, I have to feeling. That's interesting you said that because I was actually I was talking to to a to a buddy of mine about that, and and it was about an article that I had seen, and I I can't pull it up right now because I can't remember exactly where I saw it. But

(59:55):
this generation coming up,
at least here in The United States,
is the most conservative generation Yes.
Since Gen x.
Yeah. My generation, the seventies, you know, the sixties, seventies. Yeah. So
which is
in which is crazy because the just the generation prior is the most liberal
Yes. Which which it it blows you away. And you think about it. How did that where did that come from? And I I just think that

(01:00:24):
people are starting to the the veil is starting to come off. I think the whole thing with COVID,
on on, you know, remove the scales off a lot of people's eyes to what exactly is coming down the road. Look, you have the World Economic Forum telling you, you're gonna eat bugs and you're gonna like it.
Right? But yet they can eat all the meat and all the chicken. All all

(01:00:45):
all the stuff that they wanna have, but you,
the plebe,
are gonna have to eat the bugs.
And then they they send out these these marketing campaigns like, well, who what what was that actress? It was,
was it Cameron Diaz? Or no. No. It was,
Nicole Kidman.
Nicole Kidman goes on TV with a plate of bugs,

(01:01:06):
and she's sitting there eating, she goes, oh, I love this, and she's, you know, popping these these these roasted cockroaches in her mouth. Well, good. I'm glad you like it. Eat them.
Alright. Be free. Yeah. Help yourself. You know, there's plenty for you. You know? I'll have my steak,
you know, and Yes. You could you could
have your your your

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your your bloodworm
barbecue. I don't care. Do what you want.
But,
but that, you know, that you're gonna eat your bugs, you're gonna like your bugs. We're gonna so you said the World Economic Forum, then you have the International Monetary Fund telling you,
with the digital currencies like you were talking. This the systems and then you have already had the governing body in the United Nations.

(01:01:49):
Yes.
You know, so that there's your legislative
branch, and you have your Monetary Fund, your IMF, then you have your World Health Organization, the World Finance, the World Economic Forum,
you know, telling you that,
you know, we're gonna regulate your money, like, and like you were saying, which is very interesting, your money's gonna expire at the end of the month, you know, so on and so forth, or or that or that's this is what they're talking about.

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But it's not only that,
you know,
Matt, if they don't like what you say
Exactly. They can shut off your bank account. Yes. Yeah. In Canada, they did that. Yes. I mean Yeah. You you saw a glimpse of that with truck drivers. Yeah. Absolutely.
You know, they they they're trying to I don't know if you I don't know if you follow precious metals, like gold, silver, purchase.

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You know, there's there's,
there's a there's
a dwindling supply
right now because Yes. Governments
are buying China has been buying up gold and silver like like like crazy.
Yeah. You know? And
they know why. Of course they do. Because they they don't want the they don't want the common person to have it because with those Yeah. Because those precious metals will never lose value.

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Yeah. And they can't control that.
They can't take that away from you. If you have your own supply of gold, and silver, and bronze, and copper, whatever Yep. You have your own economy right there. You don't need them. You don't need their digital currencies. You can do all this buying and trading, you know,
outside of them, and they can't control that. So the governments, and if you look who's doing it, China, Communist,

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you know,
you know, I think Russia also. I know Russia is technically not a communist country right now, but they do still do have their their leanings,
you know. They're buying up, you know, and it's and it's becoming a dwindling supply,
and and they're doing that. I I believe, again, my opinion,
you can disagree, you know. I'm not saying you'd personally, but I'm saying anybody listening. You can disagree with me, drop a note in the comments if you want to. You know,

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they're doing that
to limit your freedom.
Yes.
And that's the direction we're going. You know, eventually, there will be a one world government. Eventually, there will be a one world,
monetary system. And and eventually, there will be a one world religion.
And it's not gonna be Christianity. It's not gonna be Islam like a lot of people talk about.

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It's gonna be secularism.
Yeah. It's gonna be Yeah. The government is gonna be your God.
Yeah. There was a movie that came out years ago. It was, George Lucas put it out. It was his it was one of his first movies. It came out long before he did Star Wars and all that stuff. It's called I don't I don't know. Maybe you've seen it, maybe you've heard of it, or if you haven't, you should check it out. It's called t h x eleven thirty six.

(01:04:36):
Oh, yes. Okay. And and the basic premise of the movie is is is this dystopian
society
where everyone is the same, you all wear the same clothes,
you're all shaved bald,
you go where the government tells you to go, you can't you can't procreate
unless the government unless you get government permission to do it.

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They they pump you full of drugs
to keep you sedate and calm,
and then when you need that sense of,
of something bigger than yourself, they have these booths
that you can go into, and you have the government representative on the screen
telling you,
you're valuable, you're you're you're necessary,

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you're needed, the government is your answer, We will take care of you. You know, all that that it's it's terrifying
because it's coming. You see it coming
step by step.
It's not gonna come in in in in a in a mad rush.
Then little by little, they're eroding their freedoms. They're taking that away from you. They're taking away your individuality,

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and they're trying to instill in you this this sense of,
what's the word?
Help me out here. Not individuality
that you're trying to Call. The collectivism.
The collectivism. The collective. Yeah. They're trying to instill that collective personality
in you. Yep. Oh, man. I love these conversations, man. These are great. And

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I and and and you're talking about
religion. I don't know if you just heard just recently, I think, like, couple days ago or so, in England,
a woman was arrested because she was praying in her head. Yes. Yes. She was she was outside. I don't know if she was outside an abortion clinic or whatever, but she was praying, and she was arrested for praying. She didn't she was just standing there. Mhmm.

(01:06:27):
And she was praying in her head. She was not loud. Nothing.
And they arrest her. And I think you're absolutely right. And if you look at history,
it's it's an interesting discussion I had right lately once recently once with some, actually, some libertarian guys, and and we were talking about
religion. And and there are some atheists and, you know, in this in the libertarian circles and so.

(01:06:50):
And I was I was asking them, why are you why do you think are you
why do you are you atheist? And they say, well, you know, it's,
religions, they cause war.
So we went we went to look at that. Mhmm. We talked about that. And it's like, actually, the biggest wars,
the most mass murders
in the last in the twentieth century

(01:07:11):
were all done by governments that were atheist. That's right.
Yeah. If you look Pol Pot in in, Cambodia, you look at,
the Soviet Union. Lenin? You look
at Lenin. You look at Nazi Germany.
I mean, Hitler was he hated religion. His father hated religion. So
he he Even though he was a Catholic, by the way.

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He was a Catholic, but he was he he he was also very he he really liked Islam because he said that. So, you know, and he was he didn't like religion, but he realized I cannot.
He wanted to form a state religion, but he realized it doesn't it didn't really go. So he kinda like,
but he was never for religion. That's why he also got allotted to the the the mysticism

(01:07:55):
or the mystical religions, the occult and and things like that. He was searching
he was searching for a religion that would be That fit to the to the Nazi ideology. To the ethos of of of the of the of Nazism and something that would be palatable.
Yes. To the mass of people.
Exactly. And that's what governments will do. They will try to find some religion because they realize people need something. So they will try to create something like, something,

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whatever religion is, coexist religion or whatever they will call it. Take a little bit something from everyone,
and, of course, God will be government. Right. It's funny how all the coexist people are the ones that have to burning Teslas right now. Yes.
Yeah.
No. It's it's that's another story. Yeah. I know. I know. Why is the left so hateful?

(01:08:45):
Why are they so hate and they're violent. They're hateful. They're like, why is it? You know? Because,
and
I know that subsets people when I say it, but, you know, because liberalism is a mental disorder.
Yeah. I think so too. Yeah. I understand. To be honest, I think you I I think
you're absolutely right. I I'm a I studied psychology, and I I I

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think you could
analyze it, and you will probably find out that people that are not happy in life
or that they have some problems or something, they're miserable,
they lean
towards liberalism or socialism.
Mhmm. The people who have a stronger mind, who are, like, happier, who are have a positive outlook of of life, they tend to be conservative or libertarian

(01:09:32):
because they think I can do it. I believe in myself. And the others are like victims
and they're Right. And envious. You know, there's envious. There's just always envy about everybody else while the and I think it comes down to diff two different type of personality. It it does. It it does very I agree with you. And and I'm I'm also gonna add this to it as well.

(01:09:53):
If you ever really
spent time with somebody who's liberal,
the maj the vast majority
of liberals
are very emotional people.
Mhmm. They they they
everything is is an emotional response.
Okay?

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Recently, we had, we had an MS thirteen gang member that was deported,
but he was he wasn't
the left here is trying to say that, you know, well, you know, he's a father, and he has children, and his children have,
disabilities,
and he's been in the country for so many years, and he's he's not here. He he doesn't break any laws. Well, first of all, yeah, you're a criminal because you got into The United States illegally.

(01:10:42):
You're still not a citizen.
You're not in a protected status,
and you aren't on a non deportatable
list. Mhmm. Okay?
So
the left here is trying to play the heartstrings,
but he has children. And it was a mistake, and it was a clerical error. He shouldn't have been deported. You gotta bring him back. But yet, this guy is a rapist.

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He's a murderer.
He's part of the one of the most ruthless,
terrorist gangs
in the world,
hiding behind
a family and hiding behind, you know, the the the the the stable disabled children and so on and so forth. But that's the that's how the left here is is playing it out. Now I said that because

(01:11:29):
when you talk to people who are more on the right side of things, like conservatives or libertarian,
they're more factual based, fact based. There's there, the the the go term around the states right now is transactional.
You know, they look at it like spreadsheets.
This is what it is.
There's no emotions behind it. There's no feeling behind it. This is what it says.

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This is how you respond to it.
It's not playing with the heart. You know, like, one of the issues I think that liberals have with a a man like Donald Trump is that he is a transactional
man. He is a factual
man. He looks at the numbers and says, okay,
this is what's gonna benefit the country.

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This is where we're going. I don't care how it affects that person over there in in Timbuktu. I don't care how it affects this person over here in China.
It's what's it's what the spreadsheet says.
And I think that's a that's a that's something that needs to be taken into consideration when you look at liberals and and and conservatives, libertarians.
See, I look at myself, I'm a conservatarian.

(01:12:34):
Okay? Is it? You know what I mean? So, you know, I I I have very strong conservative
beliefs. I don't I I I don't really say I'm a Republican,
as far as, like, the big r Republicans. I'm a small r Republican.
I believe in Republican form of government.
I think that's the best that you're gonna get.
You know, I believe in in in that aspect of it, but I'm not like the big party Republican.

(01:12:59):
I I have my conservative leanings, but I have libertarian leanings in a lot of ways as well.
And,
you know, so
so I look at it like,
alright, I'm a factual person. I I look at I look at the facts of a situation, and that's how I handle it. And again, liberals look at the the play the heartstrings, the emotional side of it, and that's I think that's why a lot of them are so miserable and upset and and and and and lash out the way they do because their their

(01:13:26):
their their whole mindset is, well, this is the way I'm supposed to be. I'm supposed to do that. I have to do this, you know,
which is which is nonsense.
Step I think it has to do a lot with maturity level. Yes. If you look at it,
children are very emotional. Mhmm. They cry right away. They're angry if if if toys take they somebody takes the toy away, they get angry, they they use violence to get the toy back and everything. So they're very

(01:13:54):
irrational. It's it's part of maturing.
And and I think it's
and that's what what I have a feeling. If you look at a lot of these liberals, how they behave, it's very immature.
Mhmm. And and they don't argue.
They don't they they they they scream. They they they use violence. They they start hitting or whatever, destroying stuff. Mhmm. But they don't use arguments.

(01:14:19):
And I think not that people misunderstand us, but I think it's it's important to have emotions. It's important to be able to control your emotions. That's the key. Like, that that's the key. If you if you have no emotions, you become cold and you're too factual. Like, you know what I mean? It's like you do then you can take AI or you can take,

(01:14:39):
an algorithm and that's it. You know? Like, but
humans are emotional,
and we have to know we're emotion. We have to also learn to deal with emotions
and be able to be rational and say, like, look and and look at the at the spreadsheet at the same time Mhmm. And then make it make a decision. But just I feel like this,
and that's why it's so the world has to be, like, I like it because that's how I feel. If I'm Right. I want to be a horse and everybody has to accept me as a horse. It's like what the hell, you know. It's like, you can be a horse, you can be a dog at home, you can bark or whatever.

(01:15:13):
That's
why we should have you, that's why we have privacy. Right. You can do whatever you want to with yourself, like.
Exactly. Look, if you if you if you wanna walk around and and say like you said like I'm a dog. Because you know you see these people that, you know, they put the dog mask on. And I I saw a video the other day that that in New York City on the subway that that this

(01:15:35):
this this this lady walking around walking a guy around
on all fours wearing a dog mask, and he had and I I don't mean to be crude, but
he actually had one of those plugs,
if you know what I mean, that looked like a dog tail
on in public on a New York sun on the New York City subway.

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And and they and they and they expect you to say, oh, okay.
And and, you know, that's the hypocritical thing also. So that we have to accept. But if somebody's praying or if somebody has an opinion,
that doesn't fit the narrative, that we have to oh, no. That doesn't go. Well, their narrative. Feeling. Yeah. Yes. In their role. So

(01:16:17):
it's like, I think,
we should have, like,
we have to have freedom of speech,
and everybody can say what they they what they want. But if you behave a certain way, you always have to be respectful
towards the other people too. And and it's also a part of my freedom to not be bothered. I mean, you know, in my in the town where I live, we have,

(01:16:40):
there was a an international
well, it was about ten years ago now. International
Naked Festival.
So
so there's artists this is a whole artist movement. It's not a joke. You can Google that.
Worldwide,
they meet and they walk around naked and perform. And performing is like doing weird, like dancing or whatever. They're all naked. And they do that in the streets. They they walk through the city

(01:17:05):
and and and they're supposed to oppose it. And most of them are like seven 70 years old, 60 years old. Yes. Yes. And and it's not really, you know, it's not really what you wanna look at. It's like it's like, you're like, okay. And
and I was opposing it, and then they were telling me, yeah. You're typical conservative. You're like so prude and blah blah. And so I'm like, no. It's like, first, I don't care. They can walk around naked wherever they want, but I have also the freedom to not have to see that. And I don't want to be too.

(01:17:33):
Yeah. I don't wanna take another route just to go to work, not to see them.
It's like, that's my freedom. And so we have to go it has to go together for me. If you want, you can
take apart, like, a park or something, and you say this park for the next two days, whatever.
They walk around naked, so the people wanna go see it. They can go. And one thing's for sure, I don't wanna pay my, I don't want my tax dollars going to that. But, but that's the thing. We we need to I think there's a lot of people who have

(01:18:02):
they don't know what freedom means or what it that with freedom comes also responsibility. That's great. Yeah.
Your freedom to be you
necessarily includes my freedom to be free from you.
Exactly. Said somebody much wiser than I. But Yes. But it's but it's applicable. Absolutely applicable. You know? Yeah. And I'll I'll say it again, just anybody who missed it. Your freedom to your your your freedom to be you necessarily includes my freedom to be free from you. I don't need to see what you're doing. I don't need to know what you're doing. You wanna do that? Go right ahead. That's between you,

(01:18:38):
the person that you're doing it with
Yep. And your God, whoever that might be. Yeah. I don't care. Exactly. Do it. Have fun. Knock yourself out.
You know?
I I don't need my children seeing it. I don't need them No. To be exposed to that stuff. That's my job to teach my children about these particular matters and these particular things, you know? And, thank God, I I have two children that they're both

(01:19:02):
stable, mature adults
At this point, my my daughter, you know, she's married. Three kids. You know, she's doing great. I'm very proud of her. And, you know, she worked really hard and and,
you know, didn't get a handout from anybody. You know, she worked her way through school. She graduated
with her, her MBA,
a year and a half ago. Her master's in business administration, and she graduated with honors while she was pregnant with her second child.

(01:19:30):
I I am incredibly proud of her. My son is is is working really hard. He's doing a great job. He's he works for I'm not gonna say the company he works for, but you know, he's working his way through the management chain, and I am incredibly proud of him, you know. And, I but is that the thing is is that I raised them.
Yes. With conservative
principle.

(01:19:51):
Yes. You know? I instructed them in the ways of liberty and freedom, individuality.
Mhmm. You know, to work hard. I showed them the work ethic. You know, there was a time where, when I was working for the city that I, you know, I didn't have a lot of money, and I was trying to buy a house, and I worked two jobs. I I worked overnights

(01:20:11):
from 10PM to 6AM,
and then at 7AM, I got picked up,
and I went out and cut grass Wow. And did landscaping work until 03:00 in the afternoon.
Went home, slept, ate,
got up, went back to work again, and I did that for three years.
I worked hard. I wanted to make sure that my children had something.

(01:20:34):
You know, I wasn't relying on the government. I could have very easily gone, you know, to to to the government, gotten food stamps and,
you know, all kind of government assistance and health care. No. Why am I gonna do that?
I don't want I I no.
I I taught my children how to how to do for themselves.
And,

(01:20:54):
unfortunately,
people who grow up liberal don't understand. They look for the handout.
And the interesting thing too is that most of the most of the folks that that are,
I'm thinking about what's his name's daughter, Tim, Tim Walls, the guy who ran for vice ran for vice president.
His daughter is now, you know, privileged,

(01:21:15):
you know, wealthy,
is is
refusing now to go to grad school because she doesn't because
grads
the the the education system is not protecting protesters,
you know, on on the college campus. Well,
okay.
You know?
Go grandstand
if you want. That's that's fine. You know, that that's that's great. You know, I I just I

(01:21:40):
liberal I'm I'm telling you, man. Liberalism is a mental is a mental illness. It it truly truly is. And unfortunately,
it's it's spreading.
Unfortunately, it's spreading. You know, one one thing I have to tell you as you as an American,
you know, we talk about liberalism. Mhmm. And and that is something,
just a wording,

(01:22:01):
that the
socialist, the Marxist, the leftist, were are very good at. Mhmm. Is liberalism
is a good word.
Truly, it is. The classical the classical liberals were I mean, founding fathers were a lot of them were classic liberals. Jefferson was a classic liberal. Yes. Yes. And the and the left

(01:22:22):
managed
to hitchhike
that term that was a positive term Mhmm. And grab it for them. And it's it's it's ridiculous because liberalism means basically
freedom, individualism,
and they kidnapped it. They have it now, and they and everybody thinks it's so basically, it's a positive word for socialism. And I think

(01:22:44):
I think we have to be as conservatives and libertarians, we have to start using
their tactics
and start
using
be more aware also
about the words we use. Yes. And you have to call it what it is. They're socialist. They're Marxist. They're communist. Mhmm. And, you know, the same thing is with the Antifa.
Yes. Antifascist.

(01:23:04):
I mean, this is who isn't antifascist?
I mean, only the fascists are pro fascist. But Right. But we are all I mean, as a conservative, as a libertarian,
you are against fascism. Fascism is a is
is is socialism in another kinda like a a sister of socialism. Yeah. So we hate that. Very
very slight differences between fascism and socialism.

(01:23:26):
Very very slight differences.
There's only slight difference, but they call it we're anti fascist. So that sounds positive. Mhmm. But they're nothing else than than communists,
Marxists.
They're they and that's what they are. And I think we have to be
they're very good at that,
at the narrative,
how they use it. They are good at the words, and we are not so good at that, I think. Yeah. We call it. Getting better.

(01:23:51):
Yeah. We're getting better. It's like because what's interesting, I think, is when you look at the term woke, was it positive? And now it turned negative, which is there we managed kinda like to that we took over the Oh, the left is great at that. They're they're great at They're great. At co opting. They're great at the whole marketing thing. They they really are. Yes. You know, it's like,

(01:24:11):
there was a what was the example I was I was just thinking of? Like, they take, like, the the the the term Nazi.
Right? Yeah. They love to call conservatives Nazis, but
the Nazis
were the left.
Yes. You know? National Socialists. Socialists. Yes. Yes. So

(01:24:31):
the irony of the whole thing of of these National Socialists here calling the right
Yep. The conservatives,
the libertarians,
Nazis,
to me it's it's hysterical. They don't they don't understand it. Or or maybe that they do understand it, but, again, they're trying to co opt it
Yes. To make it fit their narrative.

(01:24:56):
To to take the focus away from them.
Absolutely. And you said the the the word Nazi.
You know, it was that that term
was used by
the socialist since the end of the well, it was used the whole time because when you say Nazi, you don't need to say the word socialist. Mhmm.
I always use the word national socialist.

(01:25:18):
I always tell them it's like, or socialist with nationalistic,
ideals.
It's what's the difference? It's they're national socialist. The other are international socialist, but they're still socialist.
But if you if you say Nazi, at the end, you're like,
yeah. This that's some some
some stupid ideology, mean ideology. You see Hitler.

(01:25:39):
But if you use the word socialist, national socialist,
you get people become aware. And that's why they only only use the word Nazi.
They don't wanna say socialist. Mhmm. And, and I think they're that's something they're very good at. And then we come again to the dystopian.
We were talking before with the world government. Look at,
George Orwell,

(01:25:59):
Newspeak Yep. Speech and all that stuff. It's it's exactly the correct thing. Yeah. Wrong thing, you know? It's exactly what where we're heading. And the then and the interesting thing is, like, see, you and I, we can have this conversation,
and we could talk about these things, and these ideas, and these ideals, and these
George Orwell, you know, wrong thing, you know, you know, newspeak.

(01:26:22):
We understand it.
They don't.
No. They don't really they don't read these things. They don't see those things. And if they did, they would agree with them, which is the scary part,
which is really cool. Think they read, Marx, to be honest. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I'm sure most of them didn't. No. I don't think so. I I but what they get

(01:26:43):
through the public indoctrination systems,
public schooling,
is they get fed Marxism
piece by piece, little by little, from first grade,
kindergarten,
maybe even younger Yep. All the way up through. And then by the time they get to high school, college,
they're fully indoctrinated

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Marxist, and they don't even know it.
They don't see it that way.
They think they're being
liberal.
Yeah. They're being liberal with other people's money and other people's freedoms and other people's stuff. They're being very liberal with that. Yeah. But, you
know,
oh my gosh.
No. It's I'm telling you, man, we we

(01:27:23):
so how do you feel? You okay? You you still awake? I'm fine. You good? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm fine. It's getting morning now. It's like it's it's what is it now? Four
04:38.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, yeah. It's it's getting yeah. Wow. I can't believe that. It's just
but brother, I gotta tell you, I'm really enjoying the conversation. I I really am, you know. Me too. Thanks. Usually usually what I like to do is before before we do a show, I like to, like, talk to the person, you know, beforehand.

(01:27:51):
We didn't have that opportunity really. We just sent a couple of messages back and forth,
and and,
but I knew we were a good fit
when you commented on the shirt that I was wearing, and my profile pic. So I purposely wore it for you. Yeah. I saw it. I I saw that you wore it. Purposely did that for you tonight. I was gonna wear my podcast shirt and all that mess and, you know, but I was like, ah, no. Let me let me let me let me screw them a little bit, you know. Let me throw that thing on there. But it was great. But, what I am I am gonna let you go though soon, brother, because I know it's like I said, it's getting late and you gotta get some sleep and and I have a bottle of $17.92 bourbon sitting out there waiting for me. Nice.

(01:28:28):
I have one question though. Yes, sir. One question I still have. And it it is like, what do you think now you as a conservative
or like leading libertarian also a little bit? Conservative. To to it's a conservative.
What what do you think about the tariffs
now that, I think they're a great idea. I I I do. I think I think they're a great idea.

(01:28:48):
You know,
every country in the world puts a tariff on other countries.
You know,
and from what I've looked at as far as the as the plan that that that the current administration put through as far as what they wanna do in reciprocal tariffs, all they're really doing is, if you're charging us 10% on something, we're gonna charge you 10%. If you're charging us 90%, we're gonna charge you 90%.

(01:29:14):
You know, as opposed to like like Canada, for example. Canada
imposes a 350%
tariff on American dairy products coming into Canada.
Yeah. I read that. Yeah. That's ridiculous.
You know, that is that that hurts the American
farmer, the American dairy producer,

(01:29:35):
incredibly. Alright? Plus, it also drives prices crazy.
You know, why
the Canadians are stomping their feet and holding their breath, and the Liberals of course, you know, they're stomping their feet, they're holding their breath, you know. Oh, you're gonna hit us with tariffs. We're gonna increase tariffs, and we're gonna cut the electricity off to you. That's why I'm glad Texas is party, you know, isn't part of the rest of the, you know, state. So,

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I think it's I think it's more than fair. I I think that a lot of countries have taken advantage of The United States, and,
and this is this is not
a Democrat
issue. This is not a Republican issue.
There's been mistakes made on both sides
as far as trade agreements go. There there's

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plenty of fault to be spread around to everybody else.
But I think the time has come where we have to level the playing field.
I think,
I think,
president Trump is right in
levying
tariffs
equal to what's being levied on us.

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And
and I understand his his ultimate goal is now, I don't know if you've heard this or not, but
his ultimate goal is is that there to eliminate
federal income tax.
Yeah. That's what that I heard. Yeah. You know, and I I I think his ultimate goal is to eliminate it altogether,

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but right now with the levying of of tariffs,
we'll be able to fund
a reduced government, which is what they're doing right now with Doge, and they've already cut, I think, over a trillion dollars,
in wasteful spending, fraud, waste, and abuse, which is another thing that I find very, very interesting is as

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all of the objections
of these,
I'm sorry, morons
out there with their Nazis, get rid of Doge, get rid of kill Elon Musk, you know, you know, he's stealing our money.
No. He's not stealing your money.
He's saving your money from the politicians
stealing your money.

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Yeah. So, all these people are out there screaming their heads off about that. Yeah.
I think ultimately the goal I I know Donald Trump said that, you know, he's looking to or at least, his, treasury secretary said that
his plan is to eliminate federal income tax on anybody making a hundred and 50 mil a hundred and $50,000
a year or less,

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which is fine, you know, and that's great.
I definitely fall into that, but that's fantastic.
Personally speaking, I think taxation is immoral. I think it's theft. Yeah.
I I I think, you know, The United States prior to the passing of the sixteenth amendment, which really didn't pass,

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you needed 38 states to ratify it. Only 35 states ratified it, but yet they still put it yet they still
signed it into law.
The United States was the wealthiest
before they had a federal income tax,
and and and did a direct tax, which the constitution says they're not supposed to do, you know, supposed to directly tax the individual citizen,

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uprooted by the sixteenth amendment,
which was not properly ratified in the first place.
The United States was its wealthiest
prior to the federal income tax being instituted,
and how do we get how do we generate revenue through tariffs?
Now I know a lot of people say, well, you know, it's a different world now than it was in 1913.

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I I understand that, so, you know,
you make adjustments.
You know? I I'm I'm just not sure because I was, you know, I I agree with,
with the point that, you know, the European Union as an example, they they they put tariffs on on cars and all that stuff and,
that you level that out, I agree. But now

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I was still surprised at the list he made
and the calculation
how he did. Because
he said also, you know, like like, an example I take now, like, or Vietnam as an example or Singapore
or Switzerland.
We had, like, basically no we had no tariffs. We actually abolished them, and now he puts more tariffs on us than on on the European Union. And I'm like,

(01:33:55):
what? And then the the the the explanation was, well, we have
The US imports more
from Switzerland than we from The US. But it's like, well, duh, you have 350,000,000
people. We have 9,000,000.
If 350,000,000
people buy one chocolate bar from Switzerland,

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we only buy 9,000,000 maybe. Yeah. No. I mean, yeah. And and and I I don't know. And my I'm not because
that was really weird, and I'm not sure, but I don't know if you what you your ideas about that. I have the feeling he's putting out,
a whole
just
the he arranges everything now to make

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to reorganize
everything. Like, this is not the the final word. No. I think it's, like, just now now out there, it's like the the according to his book, the art of the deal kinda like like, let's go out and do something crazy, and now everybody starts we will talk about everything. Because Yeah. If not not I think
if that's not the case, if he really wants to go through,

(01:34:59):
it could hurt The US. I Sure. Because, you know, if you if if you if you put tariffs on,
like, on countries, like, who who
who who do, like, the shirts and jeans and all that stuff, you know, like and suddenly your the jeans are getting more expensive
for you,
or your t shirts getting more expensive, then that's hurting the people. Well, sure. That's if those people are are would are gonna continue to buy those because that's gonna force people to buy more American More American. That I could I agree. You know? That is that I agree. And I think also

(01:35:33):
he's using the tariffs as a negotiating tool. That's what I think. Yeah. And so it so maybe maybe the Swiss government will say, hey, wait a second,
and let's look at our trade agreements
Yeah. And let's see where we could make some adjustments here or there. Yeah.
So I I think I think he has a multi pronged attack on this whole thing.

(01:35:54):
I can't say I know what he's thinking exactly. I I don't I only know what I what I can pick up, you know, on from trustworthy, you know, news sources, which are far and few between. But, you know, going back to what what you said about his book, you know, the art of the deal. Yeah. Yeah. You throw you throw stuff out there. You you I mean, look what he did, you know, prior to the, you know, prior to liberation day, as as they called it. Right?

(01:36:19):
Canada said, you know, he said, we're gonna put a tariff on Canada for this, this, this, and this. Canada said, okay. Well, let's talk about this first. And they renegotiated a few things. And then he said, well, we're gonna put a tariff on here and
oh, oh, oh, oh, hold on a second. Let's let's talk about this and then they negotiated,
you know. And then with with Mexico, the same thing, you know, we're gonna put a tariff on. And then she came back with, with, well, we're gonna put a tariff on you. Okay. Fine. Then you do that, then we're gonna put a tariff back. We're gonna increase the tariff on you by this amount and all that stuff. And back and forth, back and forth, back and forth until the deal is made. He's a deal maker. That's exactly what he is. You know, he's a business That's what I think also. Yeah. He's a businessman. He's not a politician.

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Although, he's gotten much more politically savvy
Than the last time. Than the previous,
his previous term for sure. Yep. You know, and he definitely has that,
with, you know, the the they call it the the FAFO
attitude right now. You know? Yeah. You know, the the f around and find out.
But,

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And it's all I I saw a clip, and I I didn't I had I had the article saved. I was gonna read it later, but,
where basically the attitude around the White House right now was, I don't give a you know? Yeah.
So,
you know, it's like, I I think that, you know, he's he's a businessman.
That's what you I think you need to run

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a government the size of
the American government. Oh, absolutely.
Definitely more politically savvy than he was the first term,
but he's still a businessman at heart, and he's looking for the best deal possible. So I think that the tariffs may look punitive right now,

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but I think what we don't know are the conversations that are taking place That's
you know, on the golf course, so to speak. Yeah. You know what I mean? No. That's what that's what I think. I think it's just playing out live live like,
planning the playing field. Yep. For negotiation, and I think that's what it is. Because
because in long term, I think it's like, you know, tariffs are not much different than taxes. They are. That's all they are. It's

(01:38:24):
and that and that's the thing. And it's like, and taxes
for me, I think taxes are not good either individuals
or countries or, you know, free market. Let the market drain. Like, I'm Yeah. I'm so convinced. You know? I agree. No. I agree with you. You know, free market's the way the Yeah. Yeah. And the more the government intervenes,
the more it screws it up. You know? And then, like Absolutely. Tariffs are also an intervention.

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But I know I I know because in 02/2018,
Trump offered the European Union to have no tariffs at all.
And the European Union agreed, but they said, but we still keep the,
for the car, like, for in the car industry. So
so I was surprised because for in in 02/2018, he offered no tariffs, and now it's so I think he's really playing and he's much more behind than what we read, as you said, in the mainstream,

(01:39:14):
medias, which I don't read, actually. Yeah. I try to stay away from it as much as I can. I I like I like to look for the alternative sources,
and, and I I know people laugh. They roll their eyes when I say this, and I'm not saying it because I have an affiliate with with Alex Jones, but, you know,
I I've been watching Alex Jones
for, I wanna say fifteen years or so. I mean, I know he's been on a lot longer than that, but Yeah. I found him maybe fifteen years ago, and,

(01:39:40):
man, I I gotta say, you know, he's been right more than he's been wrong on a lot of things, And,
you know,
that's where I get a lot of my information from. I I I just pay attention to what he's talking about, you know. I think he's sometimes I think he's a little bit off on the deep end, you know. But,
but he's more he's more right than wrong. And,

(01:40:00):
as a matter of fact, I have a t shirt that says Alex Jones with Alex Jones was right, changed my mind.
You know,
I wore that one day. I was I was walking around the supermarket over here, and I got a bunch of weird looks.
I imagine.
But, and I was surprised too because I'm like, you know, I live in, like, Little Mexico here. I mean,

(01:40:21):
do they do they do they know who Alex Jones is? I mean,
you know?
But,
but no. I I I I that's how it's I go I go to him. I go to other sources like that for for for for the information. Every once in a while, I'll look at, like, like a Fox News thing just to see
where they're lining up with what some of the lesser known media,

(01:40:43):
like there's there's a great site is called the daily fetched.
I I just You know that. Yeah. I just recently found it. It's really pretty good.
You know, they they
give it they they it's like it's like hit it's like little hits, you know. It's that, and
John Solomon has a website called Just the News.
Yep. Which is pretty unbiased. He like he he takes his swipes left and right, you know, he's he's he's pretty pretty solid

(01:41:11):
so far, like from what I've seen, you know, in in New York's I've looked at. So I I so that's that's kind of where I go to for a lot of stuff.
And believe it or not, x.
You know, I get I get a lot of information from x, and and if and if you really wanna know what this administration's doing,
get a Truth Social account.
Can you get that over there? Yeah. No. That's the thing. I tried, and I think you cannot get it yet. Okay. I don't know if they will, but,

(01:41:38):
but I tried, and I cannot download the app. It's like it's I think in Europe, you cannot get it. And you can't you can't even, like, access it through the web? No. Wow. No. I don't think so.
But I have to but I don't know why. Well, truth social again. Because what what Yeah. Because, you know, that that's that's Donald Trump's organization. So Yes. Anything that he's doing, he's posting on truth social first way before

(01:42:01):
any of the other platforms.
So I go there too to get a lot of information about what he's up to, and, that's where I get a lot of clips and things like that for the show. So so those are some some of the resources that I use, but, just get to get back to the tariff thing, I know we kinda got off a little bit there, but I I I really do think it's it's a negotiation thing, and,
I know he put up some charts that that he was showing, like, we we talked about. And,

(01:42:24):
honestly, I had a little hard time understanding where he was going with the charts because, you know, they were saying reciprocal taxes, and like it said on one, it's like, like a 34%
tariff, and then on
the adjusted side was,
like, like, a 20 something percent tariffs above. Yeah. If it's reciprocal, then it should be the same, but I so I I'm this Yeah. So I was having a a hard time trying to reconcile that, but

(01:42:46):
but,
the
but again, I I just I think it's all a negotiation tactic. I think, you know I think so too. Yeah. He he let everybody know
this is what I wanna do. I'm gonna do it. And this is the deadline. Get in line or we're hitting you with this stuff. Yeah. But I don't think
I don't think that's the end all be all. I think that if if they come to the table and they try to and they wanna sit down and talk about these things,

(01:43:10):
it'll it'll
it'll level itself out. But ultimately, the goal is, and I would love to see it this way, is to eliminate the federal income tax, get rid of the IRS. Oh, of course. You know, because you you think about it,
and you look at what Doge
has uncovered.
All That's incredible. All of this money
getting funneled out to these NGOs,

(01:43:33):
who then,
like, the these,
well, first it went to USAID.
Right? Yep. I hate saying USAID because it really wasn't Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. USAID. It's again it's again using a word, like, you know, to Yeah. To give a meaning that is not there. Like Exactly. So the money goes to USAID.
USAID

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then
gives the money to these NGOs
that are established by most of the politicians'
family and friends
Yeah. And connections.
And then they set up these funds and these these,
these,
like, what what what are they? Like, these, these

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tax exempt organizations and
and where they'd actually do absolutely nothing, but they have all of these
politicians, family members, and and whatnot all set up in these positions, and they're getting paid
through the money that the organization is getting through USAID,
which is coming from the American taxpayer,

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Which is why you see all of the liberal
left
national socialists
freaking out in congress here, because
they're cutting off the funds. They're cutting off the money. Of course. And they're trying to convince people that they're stealing your money. No. They're not stealing your money. You're stealing the money. Yeah. What Nice. And what they don't also tell you is is is well, when they

(01:45:02):
when when, when Doge recovers this money, where is it going?
They're telling people that, you know, Elon Musk is getting rich off of your tax dollars. He's getting, you know, it's go all going into the treasury,
and it's going to pay down the debt
that is so that that is so horrendously
large that we will never be able to pay it back unless

(01:45:24):
we No. That's gut the government. It's incredible. And the other thing too is that a lot of what a lot of people don't know and and they don't get
by listening to the mainstream media is that
Bill Clinton, who was the darling of the Democrat party here in in The States. Mhmm.
He cut the federal government down
more

(01:45:44):
than what Donald Trump has done.
Oh, I didn't know that. He reduced he reduced the federal workforce more than what Donald Trump has done so far.
Remember, Donald Trump hasn't even been in office a hundred days yet. Yes.
You know, so
he's not even there three months yet.
So it's getting close. I think it's like eighty something days now.

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But
Bill Clinton reduced the government more,
you know, back in I think it was February,
I know Obama was president, so I forget what the year it was. But but he appointed Joe Biden to oversee
the federal office that
became Doge
in order to in order to to find the fraud, waste, and abuse. That was a huge talking point

(01:46:31):
under Obama's administration's second term. It was a huge talking about of cutting back on the federal waste and fraud and abuse and all these different government programs.
And and they were all behind it then,
but
now because it's Donald Trump or because it's a Republican, it's it's a conservative
government,

(01:46:51):
This is the worst thing ever. This is fascistic. This is Nazism. This is, you know, all that stuff that get, you know. And
And you know, there I've never seen a, I don't know in history, okay, there were only one or two Nazi,
states. But did you ever hear an of a Nas national socialist state who cuts down government? No. Like, this is this is ridiculous.

(01:47:13):
Like, it's it's the contrary. They build up strong states. They wanna have a powerful state. It's communism, socialism. They always want that. Right. So to call that it's fascistic is fascism is big state.
It is big state. It's like like, since when did fascists and national socialist
cut down government? It's never done. So there you see again, like, they just throw around words Yeah. Just to

(01:47:38):
to bad mouth other people. Like, it's no. It's They co they co opt the language and they make it in this.
They twist and then it's because
excuse
me. Sorry.
I swallowed I took a gulp of water and went down the wrong way.

(01:48:01):
Because, again, going back
to public indoctrination,
the electorate, for the most part, really is ignorant.
Mhmm. They really are.
They don't under they don't really know
what government is supposed to be. Like I said,
early on in the conversation, they don't teach civics anymore. Yeah.

(01:48:24):
You'd be surprised like,
you'd be surprised. I talk to some people, you know,
in my church, some of the some of the young young folks in in the in the church that I go to, and some young folks that I meet, you know, throughout my days and and whatnot.
They don't understand
what the role of government is really supposed to be. They don't understand

(01:48:47):
that the Constitution is not and the Bill of Rights especially,
is not a limit on what
you do.
It's a limit on what government can do. Yes.
You know, and the bill of rights is there to codify

(01:49:08):
your
God given
freedoms
and protections.
You know, the freedom of speech.
You know, it says,
the government will not establish a religion. Well that doesn't mean that
I don't have the freedom to worship. Doesn't mean that I don't have the freedom to worship as I see fit.

(01:49:29):
It's saying that the government will not establish a national
government, like the Church of England,
you know,
a national government, like the the the the Russian Orthodox Church,
you know,
that's what that's all about. You know, the freedom of the press,
the freedom to to speech. You can you can talk about whatever you need to talk about, express yourself. There is no limitation of what you can say or do. Now I know people are gonna throw it, well, you know, you can't go into a crowded theater and yell fire.

(01:49:59):
Well, yeah, unless there's a fire. You know, you know,
you know, I I get that. I understand that, but
it's not a limitation on you. It's a limitation on what government can do. Yes. You know, the second amendment,
the the right to bear arms, it's not a restriction on
you. No. That's a restriction on government. Yeah.

(01:50:21):
And without the second amendment, there wouldn't be a first amendment.
Yeah. And that's that's very important thing to learn, you know. Search and seizure. They don't understand what that is. They don't understand what the Fifth Amendment really is. They don't you know, I joke around sometimes people ask me a question, and I'll say, well, you know, at this time I'd like to assert my Fifth Amendment privileges guaranteed by the Constitution of The United States.

(01:50:44):
You know,
I say that joking around, but but you know how many times I'll say that and I'll be like, what's the fifth amendment?
Yeah.
Really?
It's so basic.
Yeah. You know, and I'm That's the thing. And I'll be very honest. What is that? I'll be I'll be very honest. You know, I I went through the public education system,

(01:51:04):
and
I had an awakening,
I wanna say in in
early two thousand
two thousand one, somewhere around there,
when I I I was listening to a talk show,
and the guy just went completely nuts on the air,
And he just went into American history,

(01:51:26):
and he started with the founding generation, and he and every single show he did for like a year, two years almost, was all about
the founding of this country.
And like, he did special, like like
like, he he did made movies and and,
you know, like animated movies and things like that. And I listened to this and I was like, you know, I never heard that before.

(01:51:50):
You know, and then and then he would recommend books like, by like John McCullough wrote a book on John Adams and George Washington, and
he meant I went out and bought those books, and I had never seen that stuff. I had never read the letters that the founding generation had written
talking about
why they're doing what they're doing, what they're preserving,

(01:52:11):
what rights
we have,
you know, that our rights are not
gifts
from government. Our rights are in doubt by us, by our creator.
You know, we are just because we are born, we have these in in these inherent rights
that no government can take from you, that no one can take from you,

(01:52:33):
but yet governments try.
Yes. And try and try and try, and that's that that and that was like what our founding generation here in the in The States called
the American experiment
of self rule. Now, okay. That's another thing too people don't understand.
When it's when it talks about self government and self rule, do you know what they're talking about?

(01:52:57):
Because I didn't because I didn't understand it.
What I see wait. It was it's it's what it means.
Self government.
It's like the people are the government. But it's goes beyond but it goes beyond that. It's that. Yes. But it goes beyond that.
It's
governing governing
you.

(01:53:18):
You. Yeah. You.
Yep.
You are not go I'm I am not gonna go and kill someone today.
Yep. I am not gonna go rob somebody today. I am not gonna go do this horrible thing to somebody today.
Self
government, self rule. Because when

(01:53:38):
you control yourself
and you govern yourself, you don't need a government Need. Yes. Exactly. To tell you how to live and how to act and how to be.
Yep. You see? That's what people don't and and and when that when I learned when I understood that, finally, man, that opened my eyes.
Yep. You know? And I fell in love and I fell in love with my founding generation.

(01:54:01):
You know? And I don't mean this disrespectfully to to the those men and that that served in World War two, and and gave those ultimate sacrifices, but you know something? We always say that that's the greatest generation.
I'm sorry. No.
No.
Great generation?
Yes.
Absolutely.
A brave generation?

(01:54:22):
Yes. Absolutely.
The greatest generation
was our founding generation.
These were men who
most of them were wealthy, yes. Most of them had
were had lucrative businesses, like they were attorneys, they were lawyers, they they worked for the for the for the crown.
Like John Adams, you know,

(01:54:42):
he was offered positions with the crown that he rejected.
At one point George Washington served the crown.
He was a colonel in in in, in the militia. Yeah.
You know, and these men sacrificed,
like it says in the Declaration of Independence,

(01:55:02):
our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor
to forge a nation,
and I hate using that word, because it's really not a nation. Yeah. But but to form a country,
to to form a union of states
that holds on to freedom and liberty

(01:55:24):
as the foundation of
everything else,
and how far we have fallen from that.
Yeah. But you ask any
any kid
in this country
today
what the declaration of independence says.
Ask them today, how many grievances were listed in the declaration of independence against the crown?

(01:55:49):
And you know something, I was looking at Not too long ago, I was looking at that I was because I because
It's gonna sound weird, I know, but every July 4.
And I really And I I don't
And I and I do it on the July 4 just for tradition because really it was July 2
that
the the 13 states declared independence.

(01:56:11):
It was actually July 2.
July fourth was when I started signing it, and they didn't all come together in one big room,
like like the painting is. No. They were running for their lives.
They were traveling. They were going all over the place. They whenever they could, they got there, they signed it. You know?
It wasn't like this big grand thing, like like that's that's so, like,

(01:56:35):
I mean,
beautiful paintings. Yes. Absolutely. You know, immortalized forever in those grand moments, but it's not what it was. These men were running in and out of Philadelphia
terrified because the British were here. They were there. They were looking for them. They were gonna hang them. They're gonna kill them, kill their families. How many of these men lost their homes, their families, their their their fortunes, everything they had died destitute,

(01:56:57):
died sick, on the run, in prison, hiding out for their lives because they were being hunted down by the British.
That is the greatest generation right there because they gave you this country and you're fucking it up.
Excuse my language. You know one I'm sorry. You know
and one thing I always say, what I really like, you know, if I mean, the famous life, liberty,

(01:57:18):
and the pursuit of happiness. Mhmm. Look at once look at the generations today.
They don't think they
they don't realize it's the right
to pursuit
happiness. Right. They think they have a right for happiness. To happiness. Yes. To happiness. Yep. And that's what I what what is a big difference. You have you can do with your life what you want. You can you

(01:57:39):
can pursuit your happiness. There's no guarantee you will find it. Exactly right. But people nowadays, they're like, oh, the government, they have to I'm entitled.
I'm entitled to be a happy person. I'm entitled to have everything. And the government has to look by redistribution,
taking from this mean rich people and give it to me because I have I'm entitled for it. I deserve it. I think that's Yeah. I deserve it. Exactly. I deserve it. We have all these people who think they deserve it. It's like Mhmm. And, and I think that's something

(01:58:10):
also this mindset has to change. If not, it's it's gonna ruin
The US. It's gonna ruin the Western world. Europe, it is ruining right now. Europe, you've,
yeah. If if
and unfortunately when
The United States falls,
the world is gonna fall with it.
Yeah. You know, and what I was just really quick, because go back to what I was gonna say about the declaration is, you know, you you look at those you look at those list of grievances, 13 grievances. Right? Mhmm. You look at those, you could

(01:58:42):
point
to everything that the current government is doing right now is listed right there in that document.
And what does that document say? It is the right of the people
to abolish
Mhmm. The government and reestablish
a new government. Yes.
But nobody I don't know. None of this generation knows that. They don't understand that. They're told that that document is misogynistic.

(01:59:08):
They're told that document is racist. That's Racist. Whatever. Yeah. All all those ists.
You know? Yes.
And then then you look at the you look at the constitution of The United States.
The constitution of The United States
only has I'm sorry. It was 20 it was 20 something,

(01:59:30):
grievances they were listed. But there were only 13
enumerated powers
delegated to the central government, or as what the founding generation called the general government. Yeah. There were only 13
powers
delegated to the general government. Everything else was the states.
Mhmm. Now

(01:59:52):
the states, both right and left,
have ceded so much of authority
to the to the general government
that if our founding generation were able to come out of their graves today and see what we did here,
there will be public executions right now
at the capitol. They'd be hanging all of these people. Yeah. You know, this unfortunately, that's the way it is. And I'm not advocating that by the way to anybody listening that's gonna clip this. You know, I'm not saying that.

(02:00:20):
It's exactly what you said. It's like that now the states have less and less power. Mhmm.
And that's why and that's exactly it's everywhere in the world like that. It's more it's going always as you said before, it goes to centralized
power with the goal for a world government.
And I think that's exactly where we have to come in
and have this sovereignist

(02:00:41):
movement like you guys have. Like, we have to break it down. The smaller, the better. That's what I think. Let's come back with what I said.
First is the family.
Your your family you don't need a government for your family to run. You are the government.
You are the government. You know? And then it's your neighborhood. It's like you're whatever. And it's like

(02:01:01):
the bigger
the the the the bigger the the the societies you will try to govern, the more bureaucracy you need, the more administration you need.
And so that's that's not good. So we have to cut it down to and give more power to the to the individual
and more power to
the to the region, to the towns, to the states.

(02:01:22):
And and the government has, like
the the the state, the nation has its defense,
and that's what it was for once,
to defend against foreign enemies That's right. To help each other out. It was a defense union. That's it. And that's what it is. And it was never, oh, we need a a public,
or we need
a education

(02:01:42):
that
education all over the this the country with the same education plans. We don't it was never for that. No. You can't. Because, and you you and I know that and you could probably point to examples in in the European Union and and even in in Switzerland.
Same thing here.
The values of New York City
are not the values of Eagle Pass, Texas.

(02:02:04):
That's the thing. It's completely different.
Yes. And so And that's okay. Exactly. And that's what makes It's okay. It's okay. And that's what makes
the country so good.
Yes. That difference, you know? And Yep.
You know, California should not tell Florida how they should be doing their business. Exactly. You know, whatever it is. You know, whether it's legitimate business or governmental business, it you know,

(02:02:27):
the governor of California should have no say in that. You know?
Washington DC, like, our founding generation
used to say that the affairs of the general government
should go largely unnoticed by the general population. Mhmm.
Because it should be that small and that insignificant.
The whole purpose of the general government was to

(02:02:47):
mutual defense. I'm just summarizing it. I'm not, you know. Yeah.
Mutual defense,
regulate commerce,
and conduct international
trade.
Yeah. That's it.
That's it.
Everything else was the state because the state Yes. Was the government. The federal go and and something I like to tell people all the time is you remember, the states created the federal government, not the other way around. Mhmm. Yeah. You know?

(02:03:15):
The the federal the general government is based on the formation of the state governments.
Yep. You know, state governments had the bicameral,
set up
just like
the the the general government does. Yes. So,
the idea came from The States, which of course they got from Rome,

(02:03:35):
you know. So,
it it's it
I don't know. Brother, we can go on for for hours about this stuff, man. I'm telling you, I this is this is my wheelhouse. I love these conversations,
you know. I don't know. It's like it's it's hard to it's hard to have this type of
talk when you're doing a show by yourself all the time. Yeah. You know?

(02:03:56):
So to to be able to talk to somebody and and, you know, have this this connection through it, even though you are on the other side of the world,
is just amazing. You know, we have that that that, that kinship there because of the things that we believe in and that's that's an amazing thing. Well, my brother, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you go here so you can get some rest. I'm gonna Yes. Shut all this stuff down. If you wanna hang out until I close out the show, you can do that. I don't mind.

(02:04:20):
And thanks for having me. It was cool. It's my pleasure. So folks, this is
Colonel.
I forgot I forgot your rank for a second. Colonel Matthias Mueller
from Switzerland.
Give us all your information. Let us know where we can find you, your website,
any socials that you have, so we can all make sure we follow you. And then, when you have a chance, just email it to me, or or or send it to me on on PodMatch, so I can put it in all of the show show notes. Okay. Let us have it. Yeah. Well, you'll find me on the MuellerMatthias.ch.

(02:04:51):
Mueller is m u e l l e r m a t h I a s dot c h.
You know what c h stands for? I was gonna ask you actually. Actually off the air. Yeah. But go ahead. It's it's
a c h is like, is the is the official,
abbreviation of Switzerland. It means Confederate Helfet Confederatio

(02:05:12):
Helfetica.
The Helfetic Confederation. Oh, wow. So we still that so that's y c h. I like that. That's awesome. And and on, the social medias, you find me on,
on Instagram,
on under Der Stojsepirot,
but also the stoic pirate. You give in the stoic pirate, you find it. Okay. And,
and on x you find me. I'm not JanEx on Facebook, everything. Put in stoic pirates, stoic shepherd in German or English. You should find me, and I give you my, handles and you can publish it. Yes. Yes, sir. Alright. Outstanding. So if you wanna hang out, that's fine. If if you have if you wanna run, that's that's okay too. I know you're I know it's it's late for you. So

(02:05:51):
Early.
Early. Yeah. Well, depending on your perspective, I guess. Yes. Alright. So folks, before we Thanks. Before we show, before we,
shut everything down for the weekend and resume again on Monday, just our usual shout outs to our executive producers, Wayne and Rosanna Rankin. Thank you so much for your support. We really do appreciate it. Also, I wanna say thank you to the folks that are listening on the modern podcast platforms like Podcast Guru and Fountain.fm. Thank you so much for listening there, and thank you to the folks that have been streaming sets to us as boosts on those apps. Thank you so much. If you wanna find out those apps, just head over to modernpodcastapps.com,

(02:06:27):
podcast index Org. Folks, I hope that you enjoyed that conversation. That was just absolutely great. I really enjoyed that, and, I I I we could have gone on for hours. I really we really could have, and it was, it was a real blessing, and I hope you guys enjoyed it very very much. And as you heard, we talked about the Texas,
in the Texas nationalist movement and independent independence movements, and I love that term that he uses, sovereignty movements. Those of that's beaut I love that because I love that word sovereignty,

(02:06:56):
and sovereign. I think those are so much more powerful words, but if you wanna get involved in in shaping an independent Texas,
and the future of an independent Texas, head over to the website joeroos.com/tandm,
and scan the QR codes, register your support, become a member, make a donation.
No matter how you go about it, just get involved, especially if you're living here in Texas. You wanna do that. Alright. Well, I think that does it for me tonight. I am absolutely

(02:07:24):
fried, and it's time to say goodnight. Alright, folks. So,
hey, listen. Great week. Thank you so much for being with us all this week. Thank you to everybody that's been involved, and, we will see you,
hopefully, Lord willing,
on Monday. Good night, folks.

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