October 19, 2023 • 50 mins
Will Severns is the Co-founder of Streamline Books, a specialized service that helps speakers, influencers and thought-leaders publish their books. But what about you? Have you ever thought about writing a book? Do you have a compelling story to tell? After you listen to this episode, you might just find yourself starting a new “chapter” in your life!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hey everybody, welcome to the possibility
mindset podcast.
I'm Devin Henderson, your host.
This is my man, Will.
How's it going, guys?
And we believe that somethinggreater is always possible for
you.
So what's up, Will?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Devin man, thank you so much for having me.
We're here, we're doing it, etcetera.
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
So I'm going to give you an immediate professional
introduction that I have otherpeople Because I want to get to
it.
Man so Will is the co-founderat Streamline Books.
You can learn more atmybookscom Books, not book,
because he's like hey, you gotmore than one in you.
We're just going to keep writingthose books.
Man Repeat customers.
I love that part of it.
(00:48):
So, in short, he helps peoplelike me, like speakers and
beyond speakers write their ownbooks.
So the Streamline BooksLinkedIn business page you have
a book in you, we'll bring it tolife.
Is that right Will?
Is that how that works?
So with that, give us justinitially a quick bird's-eye
view of what you all do atStreamline Books.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, it's so fun and a blessing of what we get to do
, of helping people bring theirbook to life.
You know individuals who areout there going man, I've had it
for five, 10 years.
People tell me you should writeyour book.
You've got it in you, you justdon't know the next step to take
.
And so essentially we are aturnkey publishing service and
so from start to finish peoplethat don't know the next step we
(01:33):
say, hey, we would love to comealongside you, whether you are
starting from scratch and blankpage or if you've got a few
pages written.
Yeah, we get to do it kind ofin one of two options.
Our option one is essentiallythe author leads the way,
writing, and we trail you, wecoach, we development, a let it
from a high level standpoint,and then kind of our option to
(01:53):
offering is ghostwriting, and sothat is someone going, hey,
it's all up here.
What I don't have is the timeor skill set to sit in front of
my computer and hammer out.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
And he was telling me about the minute ago and I was
like that's me.
Yeah, no time.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, yeah, you know, and some people are going oh,
would that be weird using aghostwriter, and it's like no,
we love the term of aghostwriter's job is to get the
clay to the table.
So coming alongside youconducting a series of five, 60
to 90 minute interviews.
Those calls are recorded, weproduce a transcription and then
it's our ghostwriter writingfrom those transcriptions to
(02:28):
stay as close to your voice,your tone, as possible.
You're in the document with us,so you can obviously tweak or
say things.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That's Sonia.
No, you've never gotten to me.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Sonia audience, that's her.
She's amazing, she's awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So you get these interviews and yeah, that's the.
I love that process and, by theway, I ain't afraid no ghost.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, you shouldn't.
You shouldn't be one of theshirts.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Right, I ain't afraid no ghost.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah, we throw around the ghost emoji in our
chat and we utilize projectmanagement software and you have
your project manager to keepyou on task, to say, hey, if
you've had this thing for 10years that you know you've had a
right.
It's like don't go 11.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
We can do it.
I like it.
Yeah, we can do it for you.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
We love that a book makes your message portable.
You know it has for thousandsof years.
Yeah, this book as a medium.
We love it because it's notgoing anywhere.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
No pun intended the medium thing, but the ghost.
Okay anyway, like a ghost, likea medium.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, totally, I'm a dad.
Dad jokes yeah, it happens onthis podcast, but you're a cool
dad.
Oh yeah, you've got the flatbill.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I do.
Look at this.
Look at this.
So I'm also the king ofinterruptions Worst podcast host
ever.
But check this out, I wastrying to like get me into the
flat bill style, so you guyshave to let me know can I rock
this or not?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Well, I already can't Well hold on.
It's stiff.
Okay, so a little bit of a bendand go backwards with it.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Oh, you want me to go backwards?
That's right, you can mentionthat.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Tell me, this guy wasn't born for that.
Look right there.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
This is what it's all about right now.
I rock that hat, I agree.
I rock that hat more backwardsthan I do front.
Is that right?
It's kind of like Well, when Ifirst saw you the other day, you
were in a backwards hat.
I think you had a cheese hat on, or was it?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So there's Sandlot goods.
Those guys in Kansas City aredoing amazing work.
We got streamlined hats donethrough Sandlot.
You're rocking the Henley, Idefinitely go on that, you're
just a good looking dad man andso I said, of course she's going
to rock this flat bill.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Nice man, but okay.
So I didn't mean to derail youfrom the process, but the medium
and yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
A book makes your message portable.
We love the line of you knowthe root word of authority is
author.
And so individuals that foryears you know you're an expert
in your field, You've done it,You've logged the miles in any
of your you know any particularindustry.
A lot of our kind of targetmarket is individuals kind of in
(04:53):
middle, middle to later age,where they've done it, you know
they are skilled, they areexperts and they are now looking
to get it down on paper andshare it with the world.
And so we love coming alongsidethose people because it gives
them such a fun new endeavor,kind of in the second half of
their life, to speak on thesetopics.
We work with a lot of speakerswho are looking to either get
(05:15):
into more speaking or increasetheir speaking fees.
What have you, yeah, and soit's, it's so far, or just a
legacy piece.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
You know, and people are going, guys, if this is for
my kids, my grandkids, my greatgrandkids, you just cover one of
my questions because because,here's the thing, like you might
be thinking like why, whydoesn't it bring on, like you
know, a book publishing type guy?
Because, like, maybe a portionof the audience is like totally
like, oh, that's me, I want towrite a book.
But there might be some likewho, who?
(05:44):
You know, I've never evenconsidered writing a book.
Well, a couple of things.
First of all, this is thepossibility mindset podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
And this dude just hails from an awesome family and
so I know that he can justspeak to us today about how he's
embraced the possibilitymindset in his life, but also
just with the whole book writingjourney.
Maybe there's some people whothe books in you will bring it
to life.
So even if you don't even knowthere's a book, or recognize the
awesomeness or the book that'sthere, this is available to you
now.
Anyone can do this.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And I love that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
And that was my question, like, should everyone
write a book?
Well, maybe, because if youwant to leave a legacy, leave
something to your kids.
I know my dad wrote just like alittle kind of a manuscript,
and that's something we treasure.
It was just about his hometowngrowing up.
You know it was never sold orprofessionally published, but it
was just like stories.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah.
And it's just about yourhometown stories you know
Exactly and that's why you say,should everyone write a book?
I'm saying more so, everyonehas a story you know, and what
you choose to do with that story.
Absolutely you can do a podcastif that's you or it's.
There are different ways toconvey your expertise and your
stories that you have inside ofyou.
But again, a book as a medium,as someone to you know,
(06:49):
something to hand down, you know, to a family, from a legacy
perspective, or again, to shareyour wisdom, your expertise and
your stories with the world.
And yeah, man, we love it.
We think it's very thetechnology and in the publishing
industry and the way that youdon't have to have this huge
(07:11):
platform anymore to do it RightIn traditional publishing.
It's not like we'reanti-traditional publishing,
it's like, hey, if you can goout and get a $500,000 book deal
, sure go do it butunfortunately.
You know you have kind of likethe big five publishers.
They're looking for people whocan move X amount of units upon
release date, and that's notmost of us.
(07:33):
But when you go to conferenceafter conference and you see
many of the same people beinginvited up on stage, that's cool
.
But think of the wisdom that'ssitting in the audience and
think of the people you know inyour life.
You're going Well.
My mentor is one of thesmartest guys that I know and of
course he's not getting broughtup, as you know, in these
(07:53):
people.
They're going well.
I'm not a Bob Goff or a TonyRobbins or John A Cuff or Brene
Brown, and we're saying youdon't have to be your Devin
Henderson man.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, Well that's.
I love that because we wetalked about you know I was
talking about okay, when you,when you start a podcast and
you're following it and growingas quickly as you want and you
talked about how there's there'slies that infiltrate.
I didn't cover this in ourconversation, but in my keynote
I addressed that very topicbecause I've dealt with it so
deeply myself.
(08:22):
Yeah, I've dealt with it withthe Jefferson imposter syndrome,
like feeling like I'm I'm notqualified to be up here and to
speak these things to thesepeople.
I call it the illusion of, uh,insignificance, meaning that
since someone else is furtheralong than you, then what you're
doing is meaningless, right?
So we feel like, oh they're,they're crushing it in that
space.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I just need to give up and quit.
And if you give into thatillusion or that lie, you might
give up, right, but the way thatI help people come over, it's
like you know that person'sbetter than me.
And if you're thinking that,just complete the thought with
at being who, they are right,because what if your goal wasn't
to always be the best?
but to be your best and thenwhat if your best is the best to
the people that you're meant toserve?
(09:02):
And that's what you're saying.
Like, you know, Tony Robbinscan't reach everybody, you know,
because he's maybe not going toconnect with some people, or he
just can't speak on everysingle stage in the world at one
time.
So it's like they need theDevin Henderson's, the world who
, or the people listening to hispodcast, to come out and share
their story and whatever theirplatform is and it might just be
a book.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Exactly, and you know it plastered on the top of our
website the world needs yourbook.
Yeah, people are going reallyand we'll say, you know, 7
billion people?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
probably not you know , but there is a world closer to
home that does need your storyand your expertise, and they do.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
They care about you more than you know the big name,
and so there is a lot ofreframing alongside our authors
and kind of coaching and helpingthem think through that,
because there's there is selfdoubt, there is what anyone want
to read.
It say are you kidding me?
You know Drew and I, my brother, who this is a fun note we
haven't mentioned- yeah, yeah,I've got a whole thing.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, okay, but you go ahead, maybe we'll get to it.
No, no, no, I can always, youknow Well.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Drew and I, before we get into the connection between
us and how we got connected, welove.
The line of someone you haveyet to meet is counting on you
to get better today.
And that means that, dude, thisconversation has weight and
when we talk to prospectiveauthors, we say there is someone
out there who is counting onthis book in their hands.
And we just get to take thesteps necessary.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I love that man.
It's that way of just being aparent.
Yes, you know what I mean.
It's like that two year old athome right now is someday when
she's I hate to even think aboutthis 18, needs me to be growing
right now for that moment,Exactly, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I mean, I'm not gonna say anything else of man if I
don't have to be the best.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
what you're kind of getting at is RY which is
important, and you hear that inbusiness, you know what's your Y
and if you're going streamlined, what's your Y?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
RY Devin is reframing author success and the more my
co-founder, alex Dimchec, who'san awesome speaker and writer in
his own right.
He and our co-founders We'llget him on here too at some
point.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, Alex needs to sit at this table and do it with
you.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And the more Alex and I got into this publishing
space, the more we realized, man, there is a lot of verbiage
around bestseller, you know?
Yeah.
New York Times bestsellingauthor.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I honestly don't even really know what that means,
not many people do I kind of getit.
But it seems like so manypeople are.
I'm like how many bestsellingauthors can there be, exactly?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
and man, there's ways and Amazon you can manipulate.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
You can just lie it, you can just put it on your
website, right, you know?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
and different companies, some similar to ours
of hey, we'll help you write abestseller, We'll teach you how
to write a bestseller, and Alexand I just started going.
Man, what if there's a deeperreason why someone wants to do
this thing in the first place?
And we know that it is one ofthe best things we can do for
our authors on the back end ofthe process is help set
realistic expectations for themon the front end.
(11:49):
Because when people get to theend and we hit publish and we
celebrate and we do your launchand you're out into the world.
People aren't hurt because wetold them they were gonna be
something that they didn't endup becoming.
And when you can start and justsay, if my book can impact one
person, then it was worth it,and we say, yes, that is the
mindset you need to have,because anything beyond that is
(12:12):
gravy.
Yeah, start with that oneperson that needs to read your
book and your story.
Everything beyond that.
And we've just found that ourauthors really appreciate that
and now we are forming a authorcommunity of past, present,
future authors, authors servingauthors.
Hey, this works for me.
What's working for you?
Many of our streamlined authorswho they meet up, they swap
(12:35):
ideas.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
It's so fun, man, it's so great you know, and what
you're saying is profoundbecause the marketplace is
saturated with podcasters andauthors and speakers, and so,
like we mentioned this too, likeyou know, like there's
companies that are like, hey,we'll turn your podcast into
viral clips.
You know, and it's like ifyou're trying to think, best
seller viral clips, if that'sthe why and that's the goal,
(12:57):
you're probably gonna be prettydisappointed.
But if you're thinking, hey,who's the one person listening
to this conversation right nowthat maybe they're gonna go
write a book now or maybesomething we said that Trilethu
with.
Oh, I do need to like work onmy family life, you know what I
mean.
If we can just think, startsmall, like I like to say, start
small and big.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Like don't try to like think big first and then
you know, because you're justyou're trying to work backwards,
but not in a good way.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
You're spot on man and we'rejust.
We're living in this day andage and we love the line of with
Streamline.
We're after less news and morestories Because our culture is
quick and tweet after tweet andheadline after headline and
we're stepping into 2024.
It's just like it's so crazywhere we're at.
And one of my friends, chrisMartin, who I went to school
(13:43):
with, he has an awesome blog andhe speaks on social media and
tech and he talks about thedifference between producing
content and producing art andhow many content creators and
quick hits, sound bites, yada,yada, all this stuff.
But when we focus on art andwhat our God-given mission is to
bring to the world, that's nota quick fix, that is not an
(14:04):
overnight thing.
And so our team and our process, we know it's not quick, we
know it's not overnight, becauseyour story and words matter,
and so we handle it with care,because we are in the business
of stewarding other people'sstories for the sake of, again,
their family, their friends,their careers, their legacies,
(14:26):
and we don't take that lightlyAwesome man Dude.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So good to have you here.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
This is great man.
Yeah, this is a blast.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
So you know it's the possibility mindset podcast is.
I always like to remind peopleand so I do wanna.
You know I love how we'retalking about books, authors and
more, but also at some pointhere I wanna jump in with, like
the backstory you have, youembrace the possibility mindset
in your life, because I know youhave.
You know some people who havepoured into you.
So, before we move on, justwanna say thanks to our sponsor,
our pseudo sponsor, I'm notsure how that works, but et
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Speaker 2 (15:00):
I've just lucked out she's been.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I was like are you here like every day?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
She's like no, you just get me every time, so I
just get lucky.
She only works on Fridays,that's right, right.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And then Shannon, the manager, and then we got
Michael, we got Chris, we gotTony, we got Lorenzo, we Phyllis
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We just got an awesome teamhere.
So thank you so much, et cetera.
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How was the Ranchero skillet,by the way?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Dude, it's as good as this podcast.
Any good thing I say comes fromthe combination of potatoes and
chorizo is just Sonia did it.
Awesome man.
She did it, man, good, okay,good.
So if I were to, say how's thispodcast?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
She'll be like as good as the Ranchero skillet.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah.
Like okay now we got the gauge.
Yeah, food is fuel.
Man, I love that Food is fuel.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Cool man, the way that Will and I met.
So you know we'll talk aboutthat.
We have some connections, but Iwe connected on LinkedIn
through some mutual friends andthen we were at this family fall
fest a couple of weekends agoand I saw you and you know, when
you have, when you seesomeone's like LinkedIn or
Instagram profile picture andthen you see them in person,
you're like is that them?
(16:09):
And you had the back, you wererocking the backwards hat and
you were with your family.
You were playing percussioninstruments because there was,
like this, table set up withtambourines and stuff.
And I was like, is that him?
And I was?
I kept wanting to see somethingyou know, and you started
walking away in front of thereyou go, hey, severns, and I
imagine later that probablysounded like somebody wanted to
fight you.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, you know, hey Severns, and you're like oh no,
here we go again.
It's happened before.
Yeah, who am I beating up thistime?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And you turn around.
I'm like, hey man, and so itwas really fun, I got to meet
his wife and his kids and sothat was cool.
It was just a cool run man.
But you know, I was looking onyour LinkedIn profile.
I love this part.
You said I met my best when Isurround myself with wise people
, and you were blessed to bejust naturally surrounded by
wise people.
His dad.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Bill Severns, who I met before you, or Drew?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I heard him speak somewhere and he was, like you
know, did his baseball thenKeepers of the Sandlot is his
whole book about helping parentslearn to enjoy little league
growing up, not yelling at thekids, not setting the bar too
high, not yelling at the umpsand like just chill out, let the
kids play baseball.
It was the whole message I gotfrom that.
(17:16):
I'll never forget him standingup there in front of the room
with his bat and he was tellingsome story and holding that bat
and I was like that dude isholding that bat like a pro.
I just remember being impressedwith just his presence in that
room and that message and I gotone of his books and that stuck
with me, man, so that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Your dad, he played for the was it the Brewer's.
He played in the Brewer'ssystem.
So Ned Yost and their goodfriends.
So those years with the Royalswere a blast man.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
With Ned and his wife , more family, friends and, yeah
, my dad's one of the smartest,wisest dudes I know because he
gets it on a relational level atthe core, soaking up the time
that your kids have to play thegame and all those things
through Keepers of the Sandlot.
But as a dad, absolutely it'sactually a factor.
It's a little bit into the bookpiece this many years later.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I was wondering.
I was like, well, you have bookwriting and family history, and
I didn't think much about ithonestly as Alex and I were
starting Streamline.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
But eventually it hit me of like man.
I did get kind of this frontrow seat.
My dad published Keepers of theSandlot when I think I was a
freshman or sophomore in highschool and since then, man, just
the life that that book andthat message has given alongside
his full-time job.
He's got his passion on theside with the book and what he
gets to do Kind of like Imentioned that middle to older,
it's like my dad's done it.
(18:34):
He has the years of expertiseand this is his passion Right,
and now I get to help otherpeople do essentially what my
dad kind of said.
Yeah, that's awesome man, sokind of a cool link.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I bet he wishes he would have had you at that time.
It might have made his life abit of a dis-process.
He's mentioned it, but I neededyou years ago because, he had a
great editor alongside him.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
The reason we love this terminology of we're a
turnkey publishing service isbecause we're kind of more of a
holistic writing, editing,interior cover design, and I
think that one-stop shop wouldhave been nice for someone like
my dad, but now he gets to do itfor others.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
He went through the grind, he did the real thing.
Yeah, he's like from that goodstock.
Yeah, he piece-mealed it.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And so, yeah, my dad's great, yeah, three older
siblings who all live and workin the area, man, which is fun,
because, you're right, like I dofeel blessed the youngest.
I'm sure it'll be the same withyour youngest man, who gets to
have other people go before you.
They made all the mistakes andso I just got to learn from them
, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
And so then the other one I've met is Drew, your
older brother Drew, is the ownerof Chick-fil-A in Lenexa,
kansas, here, and my oldestdaughter, claire, has worked
there for over two years now andloves it.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Drew is a stud just like his brother here and is
operating an awesome store.
But you know, the reason I'm sofixated on that is because
Claire has just had such anamazing experience and I think
it really just speaks to you.
The family, your dad, drew, Imean all of it, that's just
these wise people around you.
You guys are just doing awesomethings.
It's impacted Claire and she'slearned so many awesome
(20:06):
leadership skills and has beenshepherded in giving grace in so
many ways.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It just ways you wouldn't get other places, you
know.
So it's been a blessing.
Yeah, well, it's cool man andthis is also some.
It gets Billy back into the mix.
But I think my dad tells thestory of one guy who kind of
recognized him and even his namefrom his playing days.
I think this was at the gymyears ago for my dad.
(20:31):
And this guy goes hey, aren'tyou Bill Severns?
And my dad goes well, I used tobe.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And and it's funny.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
And you know, I think he goes on to tell this guy but
when my kids are born, it's.
You know, now I'm Matthew's dadand I'm Sarah's dad.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, yeah, oh, for sure, and it's.
I was thinking this yesterday.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
It's a cool line, man , because what's funny is first
time I think I heard your namethrough shout out.
I think one of Shawnee's bestkept secrets Justin Pickens, it
was an awesome, awesome guy.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, it was gonna be good.
Yeah, Justin, I haven't gottento meet him in a while.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, you know and Justin's going, will, there's
Devon, he's in town, he's aspeaker, magish, all these
things.
I'm like, well, we gotta meetthis guy.
But then when I, we made theconnection eventually with Clare
, that was it.
For me it was, oh, it's Clare'sdad.
Because, dude, for me, havingnot met you or Lynn or the other
kids, it's like before knowingI knew Clare.
And if I knew Clare I'm going,oh my gosh, well, that family
(21:24):
must be, you know, on it.
And legit, because, dude, Ihaven't ever seen that girl have
like a bad day at the cornerduring.
I call Chick-fil-A the next tothe corner, cause it's such a
fun vibe and an energy thatthey've created and cultivated
over there.
And you think, of course youknow Chick-fil-A, sure, I mean,
I've been in some Chick-fil-As.
That's like, oh, you know,maybe not as great a vibe, maybe
(21:45):
I'm biased, but it's so fun.
The team that Drew has set upover there and Clare's leading
the charge man.
So kudos to you and Lynn,because if a girl like Clare is
setting the charge for hersisters, Drew, drew, thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Thank you.
Drew texted me yesterday.
I just gotta share this.
I don't think he'd mind.
He just said your daughter justdid her thing with Oscar
Shepard, head of selection forall of Chick-fil-A.
Can't wait till that girl is myboss someday.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Well, it's so true.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, and then I was like thanks, dude, that's
awesome he goes.
My goal is to keep putting heron until she puts in her two
weeks for a support center role.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
So I'm like, oh, that's awesome man.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It's just like it's cool that he, like, gives me
that feedback, as things arehappening, you know.
Yeah, he's very good he knows welove our kids, he gets it and
he understands it goes beyondjust the workers.
We're impacting families,communities and the world.
I mean, you know, it's true,it's so awesome man.
So, yeah, very cool man.
So the thing you know on yourside also, you know, along with
(22:46):
being surrounded by wise peopleis that you said I am at my best
when I have other speak lifeinto me and when I step out and
speak life into others, so as Ifill our coffee cups, are you?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, well, let's do this, man, Please, man, more
Colombian or as, yeah, whateverit is, Potomol or foldiers, or
you know.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
But can you think of a time or a specific person, or
just someone who has, like,spoken into your life in a way
doesn't have to be recent, anytime this may be helped.
You embrace a possibility.
Mindset meaning always pursuingnext level, greatness in
yourself, championing others todo that kind of thing.
Any story or yeah, totally.
I didn't prepare you.
(23:24):
I'm totally putting you on thespot with this question no, it's
great.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Well, I think the most appropriate answer is the
person who spoke those wordsover me, which is a mentor of
mine.
His name is JR Briggs and hehas been a leadership coach of
mine and many others in theministry.
But leadership space, I mean JRworks alongside multiple
Chick-fil-A operators and JR andI went to the same college, so
(23:46):
Taylor University in about anhour north of Indianapolis up on
Indian.
It's small.
That's where all three of mysiblings and I went.
I don't know if you know.
I do know of Taylor or have youNot a whole lot of that yeah,
some know of Indian Westland asanother a little bit bigger of a
school just right down the road, and so I went to Taylor.
Jr went to Taylor about 12 or13 years before me, so he was
(24:10):
actually there when my olderbrother was there.
Jr Briggs is the person.
Yeah, if you're gonna LinkedIn,stock me, devon, I'll give you
the lowdown on some of thoseprinciples.
He goes Will you help move?
You move stories forward.
And he said that and that waskind of the first in a list of
(24:31):
three or four things.
He spoke over me as we weredoing this leadership coaching
and when he goes, you're at yourbest.
I would never speak truth intoyou and life in you, and when
you're speaking truth intoothers, it was just like oh my
gosh, when someone can.
I think that's the benefit ofleadership coaching or coming
alongside a coach.
People are going do I need acoach in my life?
Well, what you can do alongsidea good coach is enhance your
(24:56):
own personality.
Mindset possibilities, it'slike in about three to five
years can sometimes be condenseddown to six to 12 months.
I feel that Does that makesense?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I think that coach has done the same thing for me.
They see things in you that youdidn't see.
They see the value there You'retoo close to it.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
You need someone who's outside going.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Don't you realize how incredible this part of you is?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Really.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I just felt normal.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Absolutely so.
Jr is someone who quiteliterally those lines.
Another person may be closer tohome Jeanette Thomas is another
leadership coach.
She lives in Kansas City andJeanette is just brilliant.
Many people know her as JT, soshe's in town.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
When JR shared that with you.
About that you move storiesforward.
Was this pre-streamline books?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Was this part of what made the vision of it was a
little bit of both, and so thisis, and possibilities for me go
back to April of 2019.
I was working at a marketingfirm in Kansas City.
I was pulled in my boss'soffice one day and he told me
that I was being let go, andthat moment for me, Devon, I
(26:03):
felt just an immense peace, andthere's a multitude of factors.
I was like I don't know if thisis the best fit me at this
marketing firm.
Right right, marketing firms canbe tough.
There's turnover and so I gotit.
From a business standpoint it'slike, hey, this isn't this
guy's fault.
It's like running a business ishard, but that's still a shock
to the system.
And in that moment I had apiece about me that said, well,
(26:26):
now's your piece.
If you want to say anything,get it off your chest.
I was like, guys, I'm good.
I was just able to walk out ofthere with my head held high
because I knew it wasn't myidentity, this work doesn't
define me.
And I didn't know what was next.
But that was kind of, hey,let's go.
I met up with Drew thatafternoon.
Lauren Quincinilly was out oftown, and so Drew and Julie had
(26:48):
me over to their house.
We had celebration stakes thatnight and he said, hey, I don't
know what's coming next, but,dude, let's see what God has in
store.
And so that led to what are yougoing to?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
say Well, I was just thinking, I have a follow up
question for that, so keep goingand I'll plug it in Long story
short.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I mean I sent out an email the next day to about 30
or 40 leaders.
If I'd known you then you wouldhave been on that email.
Hey, here's my situation.
Here's what just happened, ifyou can keep an ear to the
ground.
And from that came my first twoto three freelance marketing
clients.
They're going hey, will we needsome marketing help?
And that kind of got us started.
Lorne and I formed our limitedpartnership that summer Quill
(27:29):
Creative.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
So we did Quill, which is super like the spelling
and everything.
Yeah, it was fun, man.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
We brainstormed Drew, julie, lorne and I.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
And this fell Q-W-I-L-L with Will in there
Exactly, so we did Quill Somepeople.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
They're going Q-Will.
And I'm like no, it's kind oflike if you remember, do that
thing, or what's the movie, thatthing, you do the Wonders, and
they spell it O-N-E and peoplewould call them the Onetus.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Oh gosh, and they're like no, we're the Wonders, and
so.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
And anyway so.
Quill was a blast man and whatbecame?
You know, it was two to threeclients to start.
I got up to about nine or 10clients I was working with and
kind of started to feel pressedor banned with.
Around that time is when Istarted ghostwriting LinkedIn
articles, blog posts.
And around summer of 2020 iswhen some people are going hey,
(28:23):
will have you ever thoughthelping others tell a story in
book form?
Maybe two or three individuals?
I said no, but it's superintriguing to me.
And so around that time, jr andhis organization, kairos
Partnerships, was one of myQuill clients.
So that's how we were workingin close capacity.
He's going well, will you movestories forward, either through
(28:44):
Quill or now this ghostwriting?
And he was like, oh man, that'sgood.
Yeah, because it is something Iam passionate about man, people
that are wrestling with theirstory.
Is anyone in the world care orwant to hear it?
It's like, absolutely.
I see that in you and justinviting me onto this podcast
and other people that you've had, I can see that in you as well.
You're passionate about some ofthe same things and speaking
(29:04):
life into other people.
So, as that offering, I mean,I'd say, ramped up.
That's around the time Ipartnered with Alex and we said
let's try it with an author thiswhole book story thing.
That was author one, colinHolba, nfl long snapper, and
July of 2021 is when wepublished Colin and we have run
(29:25):
this play now with about 87authors.
It's awesome and just gettingstarted and we know that's a
drop in the bucket compared tohow many people out there.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Well, by the way, that if I were 88, if I were the
88th one, because we've beentalking about there's kind of a
magic number for me my first carwas an 88 Honda Accord, and
then my dad was 88 years oldwhen he passed away, and then 88
miles per hour, and then theflux capacitor which makes time
travel possible.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
So it was like the 88 kind of has this cool nut.
So anyway, maybe it's meant tobe, I don't know.
Tony Gonzalez man.
Yeah, Tony Gonzalez, yeah, Allthree of the ball back in the
end zone.
You dunk it over the field goalpost.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So the reason I was kind of laughing, sparking in
your story, it wasn't becauseanything was funny, it was just
because, like I mean that wholeprocess right there was just a
great reflection of thepossibility mindset, because I
always in my keynote I have theaudience.
I say I'm gonna say what elseyou say is possible.
Because that's the questionwhat else is possible?
(30:25):
So I say what else is possible,what else is possible?
Over and over again.
Because that's the one thing Iwant them to remember, because
when you got let go from thatjob immediately, you were
already thinking what else ispossible.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
You really got to fast, you bounce back.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Listen to the wise people in your life.
Got withdrew in Julie.
That day, you know, surroundyourself with love, with wise
people, with stakes you knowcelebration stakes.
And then you moved on and itwas just like man.
You just kept asking what elseis possible, and for you, you
like that fly, that's my buddy,fred the fly.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I was gonna say I've never seen a podcast that
utilizes.
Well, it's he, my buddy.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
He's like hey, buddy, how you doing?
He likes to tip me your faceevery once in a while, so he's
gotta get used to it.
But yeah, dude, I mean it'sjust like what else is possible
so many people, when they didn'twant to ask that question, they
spiral out and you're like.
This is the end, and I alwayssay failure, if I can use that.
I use that term loosely right.
Failure, whether it's like, youfeel like a failure, or it's
(31:19):
perceived failure or it wasfailure.
You know, it's not a dead end.
It's a fork in the road and youhave a choice.
You know you're gonna choosethe path of growth or the path
of giving up.
And you chose the path ofgrowth.
And look at you now, man, and Iknow you would never.
You're not prideful about it,but I want to be prideful for
you and just in the sense thatit's like now you're like living
out your true passion right byletting that thing go, even
(31:43):
though it wasn't your decision.
It was like that freed you upto do what you're doing and
because of you, just knowthere's next level greatness for
you and in your impact, likeyou're helping people move
stories forward, you know Likethis is your calling right.
So that's why I was smiling likemy gosh, like this is like
you're kind of giving my keynote, like you're giving me stories,
I can tell you know.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
So I'm just gonna talk about your story.
I'll come out there.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, so that's man.
That's so great, okay.
So yeah, I'm checking offquestions from my list because I
had so many things I want toask you, but I don't really have
time for that.
So take me back to so now thatwas your story about coming
through.
You know, I had a question,though, about the Quill Creative
(32:27):
.
It sounded like that just cameout of nowhere.
That was the other question Ihad.
You're like, so I quit this job, and then Quill Creative.
I was like whoa, whoa, whoa,Like where had that been an idea
already?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Or where did that come from?
No great question.
And cause I almost dropped thisline earlier, there was a lot
surrounding Quill that was kindof necessity is the mother of
invention.
And when you get axed and youwalk home and your wife and
Lauren so supportive from dayone, you know, and she when I
(33:00):
told her.
But then you're looking at yoursix month old and you're going
all right, family's got to eat,you know.
And and dude I would have.
I would have done anything youknow it's I would have.
I would have come here, I wouldhave, you know, flipped
griddles and you know to providefor your family.
But for me it was like man,this is an opportunity,
(33:23):
especially, like you said, whenyou create.
It's kind of like the you knowharder you work, the luck you
get, or whatever you want tocall it, when you send out that
email, what's the worst that canhappen?
Well, for me, I got two tothree responses out of 30 emails
that I sent out and that led tothis deal.
So Quill was never the fullplan, obviously To me.
(33:44):
I look at it as God's grace inmy life because I don't know if
I would have had the courage todo it on my own.
I don't know if I would havehad the courage to walk out of
that office on my own and quit.
Oh right Instead it was hey, youget the boot.
And I think that's oneinteresting thing about today's
day and age.
You see a lot I mean big techlayoffs right, you'll see, you
know, salesforce or whoever,lays off three or 4,000
(34:05):
employees, and each time now Ican sympathize with these people
who all of a sudden and I'msecretly, I'm like this is your
chance.
Yeah, this is your opportunity,this is where possibility is
born and you know, when you areliving a life that is
essentially in one person'shands, like you are one
conversation away.
It's like no, seize it.
(34:26):
What about this day and age Arewe so conditioned of?
Like?
This is just the way it's meantto be.
I'm meant to work for this oneperson and my destiny and my
income and all these things, andnow I'm like but it's easier
from where I sit.
Three or four years.
It is hard work, oh, right,right, it is a grind, and that's
where you and I can sit now.
But there's a great, I think,Soren Kierkegaard quote where he
(34:49):
says life must be lived forward, but it is only understood in
reverse.
And you and I couldn't have hadthis conversation in 2020,
because 2020 I'm going.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Quill's been going for a year.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
And what do I do with my clients?
And I've got this roster, buthaving tough conversations with
them, do they keep me on?
It's like all of these things,man.
But again it's made us closeras a family.
Lauren and I are that much moreof a team.
We've become better friends indoing the journey together.
It's been a blessing man.
So Quill still exists.
(35:24):
It's just a little bit more onthe back burner as we've gotten
streamlined going.
Quill is how we funnel Dude.
I don't know if we've evertalked about MIM bands.
Yeah well, bro, I'm about togive you your first one.
After I graduated from TaylorUniversity I found in MIM bands,
which is a mnemonic deviceaiding others in scripture
memory.
So in high school we would do arubber band with a Sharpie.
(35:45):
You would do the first letterof each word in a verse on top
of the band so for God, so lovethe world.
It'd be like FGSL.
And in college I had this ideafor the first letter on top of a
band and you flip it underneath, you have the full verse
written out.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Okay, reference, I think I've seen these, like I've
seen that before so we did oneat Chick-fil-A.
Did you okay, so maybe that'swhere maybe Claire's worn.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, you invented this, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, which is fun.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
So now we can do customize membands where we can
do your color your logo, yourverse or Remind me to ask you
about this, absolutely, man.
Yeah, it's so fun this siliconewristwear that's been around
for years.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, that's yours, man, so that has our streamlined
company.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Verse cool for for for books and publishing which
is Proverbs 31, 8 and 9?
Yeah, and that that versestarts out open your mouth for
the mute.
And we just think there's somany people out there, man,
they're on mute doesn't meanthey don't have a voice.
They just need someone to helpthem convey their voice in a
digestible manner, and so I'vegot so many ideas already oh
yeah, dude, I mean seriouslywhether it's.
(36:49):
Wwjd or Livestronger.
I'm second.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
It's like my stuff is like, yeah, my stuff's like
pick up the ball, yeah, you know, ask what else is possible.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
It's just, oh yeah, and it's amazing, the goal here
is to get it off your wrist.
Once you hide that word in yourheart, you don't need the band
anymore.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, someone else does.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
So membands kind of like wear, learn, share.
Yeah, that's so good, yeah, soso membands is through quill,
it's kind of sitting but man.
I think, as the year levels outhere, kind of at least goal for
me.
You know, hey, will, what doyou want to do moving forward?
Last year or two, that whereit's been getting stuff set up.
Man, I'm excited to share moreabout streamline.
(37:26):
Yeah, good, more about membands,you know I'm a speaker as well.
I just don't do it as much, youknow, as someone like you or
Alex, and so I'm just continueto explore those opportunities
because, nice, because I love it, man, it's fun to to speak life
into people from the stage andyou get that, yeah well, I saw
also, as I was LinkedIn stalkingyou, that you worked at
(37:47):
Chick-fil-A at one point.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Or is you like to call it chick?
Yeah, the other day he droppedand he said chick, and I was
okay.
I got a quickly changed bylingo stay with the coolness of
the environment.
So I called it chicks.
So now it's chick to me, but soit chick-fil-a.
You learned this, just apersonal thing.
You learned it's all about thecustomer.
Yeah, right, so is that?
How has that kind of bled overinto streamline books for you
(38:08):
and Alex?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, that's great.
And you know, chick, I guessI've never even thought of it
that I shorten it.
So, dude, you go, chick, youget the flat bill.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah you gotta stay cool.
Yeah, you drink a hoodie withstrings, next man Hoodie
columbian, hang out it, etc.
You know that is the formulafor cool and Anyone that I see
now.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
That's why, like when I look behind that counter and
I see a Claire, I see theseother people, I'm like let's go.
You get to start off yourcareer with this foundation of
XYZ.
You know from Truett Cathy ondown what he did and what he
built and the way thatchick-fil-a is now centered
around instilling joy andrespect for the cut.
You know Good food, it's goodservice.
(38:55):
You know foods number one, ithas to be the best quality
product.
You know all of that stuff isintegral for what we do now.
And it's funny, you, youcorrelate chick-fil-a and
streamline because you know,maybe a year, year and a half
ago, we've talked about thisStreamline.
We're kind of operating alittle bit and I don't want this
to make it to Any sort ofcorporate off of it.
(39:17):
We're kind of operating.
You know Popeyes a little bit.
You know it's like, okay, it'sdecent.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Maybe six to 12 months ago we're kind of
thinking on the fact that mypodcast following isn't huge at
this point.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I don't want to get an email from the CEO.
Popeyes but maybe six to 12months ago.
You know, we're kind of KFC.
Hey, we're making gains, we'vegot KFC famous bowls, but moving
forward, we've talked about howwe would love to be seen as
kind of the chick-fil-a of thepublishing space.
Yeah, to where I, you're, inand out you know, you.
You know what to expect.
(39:50):
It's amazing quality.
You're working with good people, and Integrated into all of
that is this idea of andsometimes we talk about with our
authors.
There's a lot of weight inregard to most of our authors.
It's like they don't know whatthey don't know because they've
never done it before.
Right, right, and some Somepublishing companies,
(40:11):
unfortunately, it's like theywill take that man and they will
misuse it and you know, or evenkind of like we said, it's like
hey, you'll be a best-seller,like that is.
That starts a veering to just alittle bit more exploitative.
It's like you and we do notwant that to be our mission and
vision.
It's like we want to.
It's one of our core values iswe speak truth.
(40:32):
We speak truth, we build trustis another one of our five core
values, and those are integralbecause they're humans, human
souls, human stories and wecan't take that lightly.
And so, while we are very much,you know, high-ticket offering
all these things chick-fil-a,you're in and out From from our
(40:56):
offering to chick-fil-a, it'sthe same thing.
It's treating people withquality, precision, speed, smile
.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, that's great man.
I mean, I was getting thechick-fil-a vibe from you.
Well, I mean from the momentI've met you and I mean that,
like you've got you, just haveit.
You know, you have that thingthat shows me as the reason your
brother opened a store.
I mean, you guys have that inyour blood just the Ability to
immediately connect with someoneand feel, and make them feel
like they're the only person inthe world.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
You know, like all the attention's here.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah, that's why it's like I'm so interested in
everything you have to offer.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, you just immediately.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
That means that's just who you are.
Yeah, you know, you reallytaught this and I said you learn
things along the way, but man.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
No, thank you.
Hey, it's amazing.
Good parents help and and youand Leonard doing it.
Man, it's funny.
You know, and I'm thebeneficiary.
You know Bill and SuzanneSeverns and my dad growing up.
He would use this line.
He'd say buddy, you know,Everyone communicates if you
connect and I just alwaysthought that was like the
coolest line man and I would usethat and I'll never forget.
(41:57):
One day in college I think I wasin our library and I looked up
and I saw this book on the shelfand it said Everyone
communicates, few connect, byJohn Maxwell.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
And I just remember that moment.
All comes back to Maxwell andit's all Maxwell, but that's
there's something to be saidthere.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
It's like hey, there's nothing new under the
sun.
You know, millions of bookshave been written, yes, but your
story hasn't you know yourspecific angle and your specific
take.
It's like man yet to be writtenso good.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Hey, thanks for meeting today.
Man appreciate it, and I knowwe're gonna talk more, and I
mean this I'd love to have youback on sometime.
Yeah, I love to have Alex onhere.
Maybe get you and Justin andAlex all at the same time.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Oh, that would be so fun.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
You share stories and whatnot, but yeah, as we kind
of wrap up Um, what's the bestway to connect?
No, we've got right.
My books calm.
Is that just the place to go?
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, or LinkedIn.
You know also, if you're to digenough, like me.
The book, yes, you knoweverything.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
I know more about you than you.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, the first book that the book that I wrote that
kind of, was a segue into thisoffering.
For me it was like, if I'mgonna help other people with
this, I wanna know myself iscalled Gouch, and yeah, I don't
know you missed that one.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, yeah, so Gouch is on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
It's about my story of honestly, of deleting social
media and man that's a whole lot, yeah, a whole podcast.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
We'll read the book, but here I am trying to make
more social media projects.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah, and you know and man, there was never a goal
to make this huge marketing push.
It was largely a means to anend.
You know Well, it's actuallywhat led Alex to reaching out.
He goes.
Will I read Gouch?
He goes.
You should help other people dothis.
I was like, well, that's kindaso, dude, it's crazy kind of
this web that's woven Well, Ikept LinkedIn.
That's the one kind of socialplatform, that's the one I
(43:54):
didn't struggle the most with.
And I had told some people inthe year I'd been off social
media for a year up until thatpoint.
I'd told some people it was theclosest I had felt to the
Goucher I-Outverse.
You know which.
I go back and it's Matthew 529,you know, and I just think so
many people, man, they grow thisplatform, this following, and
(44:15):
they kinda almost view the worldthrough this third eye.
You know and sure, maybe deletethe app off your phone for Lint
, you know, or a few weeks at atime, but you can't imagine
actually deleting your profile.
For me, when I pulled that plug, my life became my marriage.
And so Gouch is.
I think I got on that because Ikept LinkedIn.
(44:36):
Linkedin is probably the mostI'm active.
I think LinkedIn's great andit's fun.
I'm not like a huge apollot,but yeah, I'd love to connect on
LinkedIn or totally throughStreamline If you or someone you
know you're going oh my gosh,my uncle's had it for years.
It's like, yeah, we'd love toget connected.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Okay, awesome, the Gouch thing now has me, because
I'm social media and I'm someonewho deletes the apps off my
phone and someone else posts forme a lot of the time and so I
try not to be on there.
But I wanna influence thatspace because that's where
people hang out.
But the power of it's kindalike when you finally cut up
your credit card.
It's like there's not even thatsafety net, so I have to find
(45:13):
another way.
I imagine it's the same kind offreedom, right.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
and I would say it's not that I'm anti-social media.
Social media's amazing.
It connects people millions.
But it's kinda the point ofGouch.
It's like only you know whatyou need to Gouch in your life.
Totally.
This isn't me saying deleteyour social media.
It's saying if you can't handleit like I couldn't.
It's like it's not worth it,Get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Well, that's the great thing about sharing a
story.
It's not like, hey, my storyhas to be your story, but learn
from this story, take from itwhat you can and apply it to
your life Exactly, but edit itright as you put it in your life
.
I love it, man.
It's so great, okay, awesome.
So connect with Will.
And thanks again to EcceteraShawnee.
We also have the link for therestaurant.
If you're local, if you're inKansas City, especially like
(45:54):
Shawnee Linux Overland Park,come on by.
It's really good.
Just one last question Is thatcool before we wrap for you?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, all right, just one piece of advice for my
daughters, and it's you know,just you know yeah, you have
kids.
You know, what would you wantyour kids to know while they're
young, as they're growing up?
Man, Just one thing.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Man.
One thing that's a great, greatquestion Is I think about.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
And don't just quote Maxwell.
Yeah, or you can Shoot Dude,let's just wrap it up.
Let's just wrap up the pod,that's all you have.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, man, for your daughters is I think about?
You know our son and ourdaughter.
You know they're coming out ofthis infancy and toddler, so we
haven't gotten to you.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
We have some of those too.
Yes, you got toddlers.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
I would just say to so cool you were mentioning
earlier a breakfast reading, Imean, cultivate a love for the
written word and reading andgoing on adventures, be it
(47:14):
through.
You know.
You mentioned your love forfiction, and in what fiction?
I'm a bit, I love fiction, andwhat fiction can tell you and
teach you about real life, yeah,and so I would, I guess, just
say keep doing what you're doing.
You know, don't lose that lovefor reading and what your
parents have instilled in you,be it adventures on the page or
adventures as a family.
(47:34):
And I think I actually heardone cool thing on a podcast.
I'm blinking on the author'sname.
He wrote a book called Habitsof the Household.
I don't know if you've heard ofit, I bet you would love it.
And James Early, I think, and hejust wrote another book on
friendship and the importance ofsiblings as friends.
(47:57):
And for your girls I would say,hey, y'all stay tight, you
seven.
And he said something on thispodcast of sometimes in life we
find ourselves of there's beautyin making friends, of family
and family.
Or he says our goal should beto turn our closest friends into
(48:25):
family and our family intofriends.
Wow, that's it.
Family's hard man and I can'timagine you know just the
different relational dynamics asyour girls get older.
But stay tight, Because whenthey're in their teens and their
20s and their 30s, if they cankeep that connection, how do you
keep the connection going?
(48:46):
Trips with each other, you know, and it doesn't have to be to
call her out every time it canbe, but you know, hey, once a
month, you know, bring them inhere, you know, and we're gonna,
so stay friends.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
That's great.
I love that that's been.
I tell people this all the time.
That's one of the things Ireally hope for them is to be
friends later in life.
So this just reinforces that,and so I know they'll hear this
someday at some point in sometime.
So thank you for that.
And I know that they value thattoo, and there are weird
dynamics with the different agesand personalities.
But you hope that over timethat'll just kind of balance out
(49:20):
the way it's supposed to andthat they'll.
I just want those seven girls tobe best friends for life.
Man, that's great.
And then your other piece ofadvice read.
I love it.
It comes back to the brandPeople.
You have it straight from themouth of Will Severin's write
books and read books.
Yeah, readers and leaders.
There it is.
Readers and leaders, awesome,hey, thank you so much Thanks
for being here.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
I love you too.
I love you too.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Seriously man.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Yeah, sounds like gouges and maybe a segway.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
That's right, okay, awesome, Well, hey thank you all
so much for joining.
This has been so much fun.
And remember to never stopasking the question.
What else is possible?
Mm-hmm MUSIC.
Hey everybody, welcome to the possibility
mindset podcast.
I'm Devin Henderson, your host.
This is my man, Will.
How's it going, guys?
And we believe that somethinggreater is always possible for
you.
So what's up, Will?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Devin man, thank you so much for having me.
We're here, we're doing it, etcetera.
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
So I'm going to give you an immediate professional
introduction that I have otherpeople Because I want to get to
it.
Man so Will is the co-founderat Streamline Books.
You can learn more atmybookscom Books, not book,
because he's like hey, you gotmore than one in you.
We're just going to keep writingthose books.
Man Repeat customers.
I love that part of it.
(00:48):
So, in short, he helps peoplelike me, like speakers and
beyond speakers write their ownbooks.
So the Streamline BooksLinkedIn business page you have
a book in you, we'll bring it tolife.
Is that right Will?
Is that how that works?
So with that, give us justinitially a quick bird's-eye
view of what you all do atStreamline Books.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, it's so fun and a blessing of what we get to do
, of helping people bring theirbook to life.
You know individuals who areout there going man, I've had it
for five, 10 years.
People tell me you should writeyour book.
You've got it in you, you justdon't know the next step to take
.
And so essentially we are aturnkey publishing service and
so from start to finish peoplethat don't know the next step we
(01:33):
say, hey, we would love to comealongside you, whether you are
starting from scratch and blankpage or if you've got a few
pages written.
Yeah, we get to do it kind ofin one of two options.
Our option one is essentiallythe author leads the way,
writing, and we trail you, wecoach, we development, a let it
from a high level standpoint,and then kind of our option to
(01:53):
offering is ghostwriting, and sothat is someone going, hey,
it's all up here.
What I don't have is the timeor skill set to sit in front of
my computer and hammer out.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
And he was telling me about the minute ago and I was
like that's me.
Yeah, no time.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, yeah, you know, and some people are going oh,
would that be weird using aghostwriter, and it's like no,
we love the term of aghostwriter's job is to get the
clay to the table.
So coming alongside youconducting a series of five, 60
to 90 minute interviews.
Those calls are recorded, weproduce a transcription and then
it's our ghostwriter writingfrom those transcriptions to
(02:28):
stay as close to your voice,your tone, as possible.
You're in the document with us,so you can obviously tweak or
say things.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That's Sonia.
No, you've never gotten to me.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Sonia audience, that's her.
She's amazing, she's awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So you get these interviews and yeah, that's the.
I love that process and, by theway, I ain't afraid no ghost.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, you shouldn't.
You shouldn't be one of theshirts.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Right, I ain't afraid no ghost.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah, we throw around the ghost emoji in our
chat and we utilize projectmanagement software and you have
your project manager to keepyou on task, to say, hey, if
you've had this thing for 10years that you know you've had a
right.
It's like don't go 11.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
We can do it.
I like it.
Yeah, we can do it for you.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
We love that a book makes your message portable.
You know it has for thousandsof years.
Yeah, this book as a medium.
We love it because it's notgoing anywhere.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
No pun intended the medium thing, but the ghost.
Okay anyway, like a ghost, likea medium.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, totally, I'm a dad.
Dad jokes yeah, it happens onthis podcast, but you're a cool
dad.
Oh yeah, you've got the flatbill.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I do.
Look at this.
Look at this.
So I'm also the king ofinterruptions Worst podcast host
ever.
But check this out, I wastrying to like get me into the
flat bill style, so you guyshave to let me know can I rock
this or not?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Well, I already can't Well hold on.
It's stiff.
Okay, so a little bit of a bendand go backwards with it.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Oh, you want me to go backwards?
That's right, you can mentionthat.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Tell me, this guy wasn't born for that.
Look right there.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
This is what it's all about right now.
I rock that hat, I agree.
I rock that hat more backwardsthan I do front.
Is that right?
It's kind of like Well, when Ifirst saw you the other day, you
were in a backwards hat.
I think you had a cheese hat on, or was it?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So there's Sandlot goods.
Those guys in Kansas City aredoing amazing work.
We got streamlined hats donethrough Sandlot.
You're rocking the Henley, Idefinitely go on that, you're
just a good looking dad man andso I said, of course she's going
to rock this flat bill.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Nice man, but okay.
So I didn't mean to derail youfrom the process, but the medium
and yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
A book makes your message portable.
We love the line of you knowthe root word of authority is
author.
And so individuals that foryears you know you're an expert
in your field, You've done it,You've logged the miles in any
of your you know any particularindustry.
A lot of our kind of targetmarket is individuals kind of in
(04:53):
middle, middle to later age,where they've done it, you know
they are skilled, they areexperts and they are now looking
to get it down on paper andshare it with the world.
And so we love coming alongsidethose people because it gives
them such a fun new endeavor,kind of in the second half of
their life, to speak on thesetopics.
We work with a lot of speakerswho are looking to either get
(05:15):
into more speaking or increasetheir speaking fees.
What have you, yeah, and soit's, it's so far, or just a
legacy piece.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
You know, and people are going, guys, if this is for
my kids, my grandkids, my greatgrandkids, you just cover one of
my questions because because,here's the thing, like you might
be thinking like why, whydoesn't it bring on, like you
know, a book publishing type guy?
Because, like, maybe a portionof the audience is like totally
like, oh, that's me, I want towrite a book.
But there might be some likewho, who?
(05:44):
You know, I've never evenconsidered writing a book.
Well, a couple of things.
First of all, this is thepossibility mindset podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
And this dude just hails from an awesome family and
so I know that he can justspeak to us today about how he's
embraced the possibilitymindset in his life, but also
just with the whole book writingjourney.
Maybe there's some people whothe books in you will bring it
to life.
So even if you don't even knowthere's a book, or recognize the
awesomeness or the book that'sthere, this is available to you
now.
Anyone can do this.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And I love that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
And that was my question, like, should everyone
write a book?
Well, maybe, because if youwant to leave a legacy, leave
something to your kids.
I know my dad wrote just like alittle kind of a manuscript,
and that's something we treasure.
It was just about his hometowngrowing up.
You know it was never sold orprofessionally published, but it
was just like stories.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah.
And it's just about yourhometown stories you know
Exactly and that's why you say,should everyone write a book?
I'm saying more so, everyonehas a story you know, and what
you choose to do with that story.
Absolutely you can do a podcastif that's you or it's.
There are different ways toconvey your expertise and your
stories that you have inside ofyou.
But again, a book as a medium,as someone to you know,
(06:49):
something to hand down, you know, to a family, from a legacy
perspective, or again, to shareyour wisdom, your expertise and
your stories with the world.
And yeah, man, we love it.
We think it's very thetechnology and in the publishing
industry and the way that youdon't have to have this huge
(07:11):
platform anymore to do it RightIn traditional publishing.
It's not like we'reanti-traditional publishing,
it's like, hey, if you can goout and get a $500,000 book deal
, sure go do it butunfortunately.
You know you have kind of likethe big five publishers.
They're looking for people whocan move X amount of units upon
release date, and that's notmost of us.
(07:33):
But when you go to conferenceafter conference and you see
many of the same people beinginvited up on stage, that's cool
.
But think of the wisdom that'ssitting in the audience and
think of the people you know inyour life.
You're going Well.
My mentor is one of thesmartest guys that I know and of
course he's not getting broughtup, as you know, in these
(07:53):
people.
They're going well.
I'm not a Bob Goff or a TonyRobbins or John A Cuff or Brene
Brown, and we're saying youdon't have to be your Devin
Henderson man.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, Well that's.
I love that because we wetalked about you know I was
talking about okay, when you,when you start a podcast and
you're following it and growingas quickly as you want and you
talked about how there's there'slies that infiltrate.
I didn't cover this in ourconversation, but in my keynote
I addressed that very topicbecause I've dealt with it so
deeply myself.
(08:22):
Yeah, I've dealt with it withthe Jefferson imposter syndrome,
like feeling like I'm I'm notqualified to be up here and to
speak these things to thesepeople.
I call it the illusion of, uh,insignificance, meaning that
since someone else is furtheralong than you, then what you're
doing is meaningless, right?
So we feel like, oh they're,they're crushing it in that
space.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I just need to give up and quit.
And if you give into thatillusion or that lie, you might
give up, right, but the way thatI help people come over, it's
like you know that person'sbetter than me.
And if you're thinking that,just complete the thought with
at being who, they are right,because what if your goal wasn't
to always be the best?
but to be your best and thenwhat if your best is the best to
the people that you're meant toserve?
(09:02):
And that's what you're saying.
Like, you know, Tony Robbinscan't reach everybody, you know,
because he's maybe not going toconnect with some people, or he
just can't speak on everysingle stage in the world at one
time.
So it's like they need theDevin Henderson's, the world who
, or the people listening to hispodcast, to come out and share
their story and whatever theirplatform is and it might just be
a book.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Exactly, and you know it plastered on the top of our
website the world needs yourbook.
Yeah, people are going reallyand we'll say, you know, 7
billion people?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
probably not you know , but there is a world closer to
home that does need your storyand your expertise, and they do.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
They care about you more than you know the big name,
and so there is a lot ofreframing alongside our authors
and kind of coaching and helpingthem think through that,
because there's there is selfdoubt, there is what anyone want
to read.
It say are you kidding me?
You know Drew and I, my brother, who this is a fun note we
haven't mentioned- yeah, yeah,I've got a whole thing.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, okay, but you go ahead, maybe we'll get to it.
No, no, no, I can always, youknow Well.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Drew and I, before we get into the connection between
us and how we got connected, welove.
The line of someone you haveyet to meet is counting on you
to get better today.
And that means that, dude, thisconversation has weight and
when we talk to prospectiveauthors, we say there is someone
out there who is counting onthis book in their hands.
And we just get to take thesteps necessary.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I love that man.
It's that way of just being aparent.
Yes, you know what I mean.
It's like that two year old athome right now is someday when
she's I hate to even think aboutthis 18, needs me to be growing
right now for that moment,Exactly, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I mean, I'm not gonna say anything else of man if I
don't have to be the best.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
what you're kind of getting at is RY which is
important, and you hear that inbusiness, you know what's your Y
and if you're going streamlined, what's your Y?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
RY Devin is reframing author success and the more my
co-founder, alex Dimchec, who'san awesome speaker and writer in
his own right.
He and our co-founders We'llget him on here too at some
point.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, Alex needs to sit at this table and do it with
you.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And the more Alex and I got into this publishing
space, the more we realized, man, there is a lot of verbiage
around bestseller, you know?
Yeah.
New York Times bestsellingauthor.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I honestly don't even really know what that means,
not many people do I kind of getit.
But it seems like so manypeople are.
I'm like how many bestsellingauthors can there be, exactly?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
and man, there's ways and Amazon you can manipulate.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
You can just lie it, you can just put it on your
website, right, you know?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
and different companies, some similar to ours
of hey, we'll help you write abestseller, We'll teach you how
to write a bestseller, and Alexand I just started going.
Man, what if there's a deeperreason why someone wants to do
this thing in the first place?
And we know that it is one ofthe best things we can do for
our authors on the back end ofthe process is help set
realistic expectations for themon the front end.
(11:49):
Because when people get to theend and we hit publish and we
celebrate and we do your launchand you're out into the world.
People aren't hurt because wetold them they were gonna be
something that they didn't endup becoming.
And when you can start and justsay, if my book can impact one
person, then it was worth it,and we say, yes, that is the
mindset you need to have,because anything beyond that is
(12:12):
gravy.
Yeah, start with that oneperson that needs to read your
book and your story.
Everything beyond that.
And we've just found that ourauthors really appreciate that
and now we are forming a authorcommunity of past, present,
future authors, authors servingauthors.
Hey, this works for me.
What's working for you?
Many of our streamlined authorswho they meet up, they swap
(12:35):
ideas.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
It's so fun, man, it's so great you know, and what
you're saying is profoundbecause the marketplace is
saturated with podcasters andauthors and speakers, and so,
like we mentioned this too, likeyou know, like there's
companies that are like, hey,we'll turn your podcast into
viral clips.
You know, and it's like ifyou're trying to think, best
seller viral clips, if that'sthe why and that's the goal,
(12:57):
you're probably gonna be prettydisappointed.
But if you're thinking, hey,who's the one person listening
to this conversation right nowthat maybe they're gonna go
write a book now or maybesomething we said that Trilethu
with.
Oh, I do need to like work onmy family life, you know what I
mean.
If we can just think, startsmall, like I like to say, start
small and big.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Like don't try to like think big first and then
you know, because you're justyou're trying to work backwards,
but not in a good way.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
You're spot on man and we'rejust.
We're living in this day andage and we love the line of with
Streamline.
We're after less news and morestories Because our culture is
quick and tweet after tweet andheadline after headline and
we're stepping into 2024.
It's just like it's so crazywhere we're at.
And one of my friends, chrisMartin, who I went to school
(13:43):
with, he has an awesome blog andhe speaks on social media and
tech and he talks about thedifference between producing
content and producing art andhow many content creators and
quick hits, sound bites, yada,yada, all this stuff.
But when we focus on art andwhat our God-given mission is to
bring to the world, that's nota quick fix, that is not an
(14:04):
overnight thing.
And so our team and our process, we know it's not quick, we
know it's not overnight, becauseyour story and words matter,
and so we handle it with care,because we are in the business
of stewarding other people'sstories for the sake of, again,
their family, their friends,their careers, their legacies,
(14:26):
and we don't take that lightlyAwesome man Dude.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So good to have you here.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
This is great man.
Yeah, this is a blast.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
So you know it's the possibility mindset podcast is.
I always like to remind peopleand so I do wanna.
You know I love how we'retalking about books, authors and
more, but also at some pointhere I wanna jump in with, like
the backstory you have, youembrace the possibility mindset
in your life, because I know youhave.
You know some people who havepoured into you.
So, before we move on, justwanna say thanks to our sponsor,
our pseudo sponsor, I'm notsure how that works, but et
(14:55):
cetera.
Yes, here in Shawnee, and wegot Sonia that you just met
serving us.
She's the best.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I've just lucked out she's been.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I was like are you here like every day?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
She's like no, you just get me every time, so I
just get lucky.
She only works on Fridays,that's right, right.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And then Shannon, the manager, and then we got
Michael, we got Chris, we gotTony, we got Lorenzo, we Phyllis
.
We just got an awesome teamhere.
So thank you so much, et cetera.
Go to the website.
It's in the.
We put the link below in thepodcast description.
How was the Ranchero skillet,by the way?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Dude, it's as good as this podcast.
Any good thing I say comes fromthe combination of potatoes and
chorizo is just Sonia did it.
Awesome man.
She did it, man, good, okay,good.
So if I were to, say how's thispodcast?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
She'll be like as good as the Ranchero skillet.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah.
Like okay now we got the gauge.
Yeah, food is fuel.
Man, I love that Food is fuel.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Cool man, the way that Will and I met.
So you know we'll talk aboutthat.
We have some connections, but Iwe connected on LinkedIn
through some mutual friends andthen we were at this family fall
fest a couple of weekends agoand I saw you and you know, when
you have, when you seesomeone's like LinkedIn or
Instagram profile picture andthen you see them in person,
you're like is that them?
(16:09):
And you had the back, you wererocking the backwards hat and
you were with your family.
You were playing percussioninstruments because there was,
like this, table set up withtambourines and stuff.
And I was like, is that him?
And I was?
I kept wanting to see somethingyou know, and you started
walking away in front of thereyou go, hey, severns, and I
imagine later that probablysounded like somebody wanted to
fight you.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, you know, hey Severns, and you're like oh no,
here we go again.
It's happened before.
Yeah, who am I beating up thistime?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And you turn around.
I'm like, hey man, and so itwas really fun, I got to meet
his wife and his kids and sothat was cool.
It was just a cool run man.
But you know, I was looking onyour LinkedIn profile.
I love this part.
You said I met my best when Isurround myself with wise people
, and you were blessed to bejust naturally surrounded by
wise people.
His dad.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Bill Severns, who I met before you, or Drew?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I heard him speak somewhere and he was, like you
know, did his baseball thenKeepers of the Sandlot is his
whole book about helping parentslearn to enjoy little league
growing up, not yelling at thekids, not setting the bar too
high, not yelling at the umpsand like just chill out, let the
kids play baseball.
It was the whole message I gotfrom that.
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I'll never forget him standingup there in front of the room
with his bat and he was tellingsome story and holding that bat
and I was like that dude isholding that bat like a pro.
I just remember being impressedwith just his presence in that
room and that message and I gotone of his books and that stuck
with me, man, so that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Your dad, he played for the was it the Brewer's.
He played in the Brewer'ssystem.
So Ned Yost and their goodfriends.
So those years with the Royalswere a blast man.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
With Ned and his wife , more family, friends and, yeah
, my dad's one of the smartest,wisest dudes I know because he
gets it on a relational level atthe core, soaking up the time
that your kids have to play thegame and all those things
through Keepers of the Sandlot.
But as a dad, absolutely it'sactually a factor.
It's a little bit into the bookpiece this many years later.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I was wondering.
I was like, well, you have bookwriting and family history, and
I didn't think much about ithonestly as Alex and I were
starting Streamline.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
But eventually it hit me of like man.
I did get kind of this frontrow seat.
My dad published Keepers of theSandlot when I think I was a
freshman or sophomore in highschool and since then, man, just
the life that that book andthat message has given alongside
his full-time job.
He's got his passion on theside with the book and what he
gets to do Kind of like Imentioned that middle to older,
it's like my dad's done it.
(18:34):
He has the years of expertiseand this is his passion Right,
and now I get to help otherpeople do essentially what my
dad kind of said.
Yeah, that's awesome man, sokind of a cool link.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I bet he wishes he would have had you at that time.
It might have made his life abit of a dis-process.
He's mentioned it, but I neededyou years ago because, he had a
great editor alongside him.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
The reason we love this terminology of we're a
turnkey publishing service isbecause we're kind of more of a
holistic writing, editing,interior cover design, and I
think that one-stop shop wouldhave been nice for someone like
my dad, but now he gets to do itfor others.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
He went through the grind, he did the real thing.
Yeah, he's like from that goodstock.
Yeah, he piece-mealed it.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And so, yeah, my dad's great, yeah, three older
siblings who all live and workin the area, man, which is fun,
because, you're right, like I dofeel blessed the youngest.
I'm sure it'll be the same withyour youngest man, who gets to
have other people go before you.
They made all the mistakes andso I just got to learn from them
, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
And so then the other one I've met is Drew, your
older brother Drew, is the ownerof Chick-fil-A in Lenexa,
kansas, here, and my oldestdaughter, claire, has worked
there for over two years now andloves it.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Drew is a stud just like his brother here and is
operating an awesome store.
But you know, the reason I'm sofixated on that is because
Claire has just had such anamazing experience and I think
it really just speaks to you.
The family, your dad, drew, Imean all of it, that's just
these wise people around you.
You guys are just doing awesomethings.
It's impacted Claire and she'slearned so many awesome
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leadership skills and has beenshepherded in giving grace in so
many ways.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It just ways you wouldn't get other places, you
know.
So it's been a blessing.
Yeah, well, it's cool man andthis is also some.
It gets Billy back into the mix.
But I think my dad tells thestory of one guy who kind of
recognized him and even his namefrom his playing days.
I think this was at the gymyears ago for my dad.
(20:31):
And this guy goes hey, aren'tyou Bill Severns?
And my dad goes well, I used tobe.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And and it's funny.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
And you know, I think he goes on to tell this guy but
when my kids are born, it's.
You know, now I'm Matthew's dadand I'm Sarah's dad.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, yeah, oh, for sure, and it's.
I was thinking this yesterday.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
It's a cool line, man , because what's funny is first
time I think I heard your namethrough shout out.
I think one of Shawnee's bestkept secrets Justin Pickens, it
was an awesome, awesome guy.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, it was gonna be good.
Yeah, Justin, I haven't gottento meet him in a while.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, you know and Justin's going, will, there's
Devon, he's in town, he's aspeaker, magish, all these
things.
I'm like, well, we gotta meetthis guy.
But then when I, we made theconnection eventually with Clare
, that was it.
For me it was, oh, it's Clare'sdad.
Because, dude, for me, havingnot met you or Lynn or the other
kids, it's like before knowingI knew Clare.
And if I knew Clare I'm going,oh my gosh, well, that family
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must be, you know, on it.
And legit, because, dude, Ihaven't ever seen that girl have
like a bad day at the cornerduring.
I call Chick-fil-A the next tothe corner, cause it's such a
fun vibe and an energy thatthey've created and cultivated
over there.
And you think, of course youknow Chick-fil-A, sure, I mean,
I've been in some Chick-fil-As.
That's like, oh, you know,maybe not as great a vibe, maybe
(21:45):
I'm biased, but it's so fun.
The team that Drew has set upover there and Clare's leading
the charge man.
So kudos to you and Lynn,because if a girl like Clare is
setting the charge for hersisters, Drew, drew, thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Thank you.
Drew texted me yesterday.
I just gotta share this.
I don't think he'd mind.
He just said your daughter justdid her thing with Oscar
Shepard, head of selection forall of Chick-fil-A.
Can't wait till that girl is myboss someday.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Well, it's so true.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, and then I was like thanks, dude, that's
awesome he goes.
My goal is to keep putting heron until she puts in her two
weeks for a support center role.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
So I'm like, oh, that's awesome man.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It's just like it's cool that he, like, gives me
that feedback, as things arehappening, you know.
Yeah, he's very good he knows welove our kids, he gets it and
he understands it goes beyondjust the workers.
We're impacting families,communities and the world.
I mean, you know, it's true,it's so awesome man.
So, yeah, very cool man.
So the thing you know on yourside also, you know, along with
(22:46):
being surrounded by wise peopleis that you said I am at my best
when I have other speak lifeinto me and when I step out and
speak life into others, so as Ifill our coffee cups, are you?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, well, let's do this, man, Please, man, more
Colombian or as, yeah, whateverit is, Potomol or foldiers, or
you know.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
But can you think of a time or a specific person, or
just someone who has, like,spoken into your life in a way
doesn't have to be recent, anytime this may be helped.
You embrace a possibility.
Mindset meaning always pursuingnext level, greatness in
yourself, championing others todo that kind of thing.
Any story or yeah, totally.
I didn't prepare you.
(23:24):
I'm totally putting you on thespot with this question no, it's
great.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Well, I think the most appropriate answer is the
person who spoke those wordsover me, which is a mentor of
mine.
His name is JR Briggs and hehas been a leadership coach of
mine and many others in theministry.
But leadership space, I mean JRworks alongside multiple
Chick-fil-A operators and JR andI went to the same college, so
(23:46):
Taylor University in about anhour north of Indianapolis up on
Indian.
It's small.
That's where all three of mysiblings and I went.
I don't know if you know.
I do know of Taylor or have youNot a whole lot of that yeah,
some know of Indian Westland asanother a little bit bigger of a
school just right down the road, and so I went to Taylor.
Jr went to Taylor about 12 or13 years before me, so he was
(24:10):
actually there when my olderbrother was there.
Jr Briggs is the person.
Yeah, if you're gonna LinkedIn,stock me, devon, I'll give you
the lowdown on some of thoseprinciples.
He goes Will you help move?
You move stories forward.
And he said that and that waskind of the first in a list of
(24:31):
three or four things.
He spoke over me as we weredoing this leadership coaching
and when he goes, you're at yourbest.
I would never speak truth intoyou and life in you, and when
you're speaking truth intoothers, it was just like oh my
gosh, when someone can.
I think that's the benefit ofleadership coaching or coming
alongside a coach.
People are going do I need acoach in my life?
Well, what you can do alongsidea good coach is enhance your
(24:56):
own personality.
Mindset possibilities, it'slike in about three to five
years can sometimes be condenseddown to six to 12 months.
I feel that Does that makesense?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I think that coach has done the same thing for me.
They see things in you that youdidn't see.
They see the value there You'retoo close to it.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
You need someone who's outside going.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Don't you realize how incredible this part of you is?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Really.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I just felt normal.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Absolutely so.
Jr is someone who quiteliterally those lines.
Another person may be closer tohome Jeanette Thomas is another
leadership coach.
She lives in Kansas City andJeanette is just brilliant.
Many people know her as JT, soshe's in town.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
When JR shared that with you.
About that you move storiesforward.
Was this pre-streamline books?
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Was this part of what made the vision of it was a
little bit of both, and so thisis, and possibilities for me go
back to April of 2019.
I was working at a marketingfirm in Kansas City.
I was pulled in my boss'soffice one day and he told me
that I was being let go, andthat moment for me, Devon, I
(26:03):
felt just an immense peace, andthere's a multitude of factors.
I was like I don't know if thisis the best fit me at this
marketing firm.
Right right, marketing firms canbe tough.
There's turnover and so I gotit.
From a business standpoint it'slike, hey, this isn't this
guy's fault.
It's like running a business ishard, but that's still a shock
to the system.
And in that moment I had apiece about me that said, well,
(26:26):
now's your piece.
If you want to say anything,get it off your chest.
I was like, guys, I'm good.
I was just able to walk out ofthere with my head held high
because I knew it wasn't myidentity, this work doesn't
define me.
And I didn't know what was next.
But that was kind of, hey,let's go.
I met up with Drew thatafternoon.
Lauren Quincinilly was out oftown, and so Drew and Julie had
(26:48):
me over to their house.
We had celebration stakes thatnight and he said, hey, I don't
know what's coming next, but,dude, let's see what God has in
store.
And so that led to what are yougoing to?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
say Well, I was just thinking, I have a follow up
question for that, so keep goingand I'll plug it in Long story
short.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I mean I sent out an email the next day to about 30
or 40 leaders.
If I'd known you then you wouldhave been on that email.
Hey, here's my situation.
Here's what just happened, ifyou can keep an ear to the
ground.
And from that came my first twoto three freelance marketing
clients.
They're going hey, will we needsome marketing help?
And that kind of got us started.
Lorne and I formed our limitedpartnership that summer Quill
(27:29):
Creative.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
So we did Quill, which is super like the spelling
and everything.
Yeah, it was fun, man.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
We brainstormed Drew, julie, lorne and I.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
And this fell Q-W-I-L-L with Will in there
Exactly, so we did Quill Somepeople.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
They're going Q-Will.
And I'm like no, it's kind oflike if you remember, do that
thing, or what's the movie, thatthing, you do the Wonders, and
they spell it O-N-E and peoplewould call them the Onetus.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Oh gosh, and they're like no, we're the Wonders, and
so.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
And anyway so.
Quill was a blast man and whatbecame?
You know, it was two to threeclients to start.
I got up to about nine or 10clients I was working with and
kind of started to feel pressedor banned with.
Around that time is when Istarted ghostwriting LinkedIn
articles, blog posts.
And around summer of 2020 iswhen some people are going hey,
(28:23):
will have you ever thoughthelping others tell a story in
book form?
Maybe two or three individuals?
I said no, but it's superintriguing to me.
And so around that time, jr andhis organization, kairos
Partnerships, was one of myQuill clients.
So that's how we were workingin close capacity.
He's going well, will you movestories forward, either through
(28:44):
Quill or now this ghostwriting?
And he was like, oh man, that'sgood.
Yeah, because it is something Iam passionate about man, people
that are wrestling with theirstory.
Is anyone in the world care orwant to hear it?
It's like, absolutely.
I see that in you and justinviting me onto this podcast
and other people that you've had, I can see that in you as well.
You're passionate about some ofthe same things and speaking
(29:04):
life into other people.
So, as that offering, I mean,I'd say, ramped up.
That's around the time Ipartnered with Alex and we said
let's try it with an author thiswhole book story thing.
That was author one, colinHolba, nfl long snapper, and
July of 2021 is when wepublished Colin and we have run
(29:25):
this play now with about 87authors.
It's awesome and just gettingstarted and we know that's a
drop in the bucket compared tohow many people out there.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Well, by the way, that if I were 88, if I were the
88th one, because we've beentalking about there's kind of a
magic number for me my first carwas an 88 Honda Accord, and
then my dad was 88 years oldwhen he passed away, and then 88
miles per hour, and then theflux capacitor which makes time
travel possible.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
So it was like the 88 kind of has this cool nut.
So anyway, maybe it's meant tobe, I don't know.
Tony Gonzalez man.
Yeah, Tony Gonzalez, yeah, Allthree of the ball back in the
end zone.
You dunk it over the field goalpost.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So the reason I was kind of laughing, sparking in
your story, it wasn't becauseanything was funny, it was just
because, like I mean that wholeprocess right there was just a
great reflection of thepossibility mindset, because I
always in my keynote I have theaudience.
I say I'm gonna say what elseyou say is possible.
Because that's the questionwhat else is possible?
(30:25):
So I say what else is possible,what else is possible?
Over and over again.
Because that's the one thing Iwant them to remember, because
when you got let go from thatjob immediately, you were
already thinking what else ispossible.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
You really got to fast, you bounce back.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Listen to the wise people in your life.
Got withdrew in Julie.
That day, you know, surroundyourself with love, with wise
people, with stakes you knowcelebration stakes.
And then you moved on and itwas just like man.
You just kept asking what elseis possible, and for you, you
like that fly, that's my buddy,fred the fly.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I was gonna say I've never seen a podcast that
utilizes.
Well, it's he, my buddy.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
He's like hey, buddy, how you doing?
He likes to tip me your faceevery once in a while, so he's
gotta get used to it.
But yeah, dude, I mean it'sjust like what else is possible
so many people, when they didn'twant to ask that question, they
spiral out and you're like.
This is the end, and I alwayssay failure, if I can use that.
I use that term loosely right.
Failure, whether it's like, youfeel like a failure, or it's
(31:19):
perceived failure or it wasfailure.
You know, it's not a dead end.
It's a fork in the road and youhave a choice.
You know you're gonna choosethe path of growth or the path
of giving up.
And you chose the path ofgrowth.
And look at you now, man, and Iknow you would never.
You're not prideful about it,but I want to be prideful for
you and just in the sense thatit's like now you're like living
out your true passion right byletting that thing go, even
(31:43):
though it wasn't your decision.
It was like that freed you upto do what you're doing and
because of you, just knowthere's next level greatness for
you and in your impact, likeyou're helping people move
stories forward, you know Likethis is your calling right.
So that's why I was smiling likemy gosh, like this is like
you're kind of giving my keynote, like you're giving me stories,
I can tell you know.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
So I'm just gonna talk about your story.
I'll come out there.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, so that's man.
That's so great, okay.
So yeah, I'm checking offquestions from my list because I
had so many things I want toask you, but I don't really have
time for that.
So take me back to so now thatwas your story about coming
through.
You know, I had a question,though, about the Quill Creative
(32:27):
.
It sounded like that just cameout of nowhere.
That was the other question Ihad.
You're like, so I quit this job, and then Quill Creative.
I was like whoa, whoa, whoa,Like where had that been an idea
already?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Or where did that come from?
No great question.
And cause I almost dropped thisline earlier, there was a lot
surrounding Quill that was kindof necessity is the mother of
invention.
And when you get axed and youwalk home and your wife and
Lauren so supportive from dayone, you know, and she when I
(33:00):
told her.
But then you're looking at yoursix month old and you're going
all right, family's got to eat,you know.
And and dude I would have.
I would have done anything youknow it's I would have.
I would have come here, I wouldhave, you know, flipped
griddles and you know to providefor your family.
But for me it was like man,this is an opportunity,
(33:23):
especially, like you said, whenyou create.
It's kind of like the you knowharder you work, the luck you
get, or whatever you want tocall it, when you send out that
email, what's the worst that canhappen?
Well, for me, I got two tothree responses out of 30 emails
that I sent out and that led tothis deal.
So Quill was never the fullplan, obviously To me.
(33:44):
I look at it as God's grace inmy life because I don't know if
I would have had the courage todo it on my own.
I don't know if I would havehad the courage to walk out of
that office on my own and quit.
Oh right Instead it was hey, youget the boot.
And I think that's oneinteresting thing about today's
day and age.
You see a lot I mean big techlayoffs right, you'll see, you
know, salesforce or whoever,lays off three or 4,000
(34:05):
employees, and each time now Ican sympathize with these people
who all of a sudden and I'msecretly, I'm like this is your
chance.
Yeah, this is your opportunity,this is where possibility is
born and you know, when you areliving a life that is
essentially in one person'shands, like you are one
conversation away.
It's like no, seize it.
(34:26):
What about this day and age Arewe so conditioned of?
Like?
This is just the way it's meantto be.
I'm meant to work for this oneperson and my destiny and my
income and all these things, andnow I'm like but it's easier
from where I sit.
Three or four years.
It is hard work, oh, right,right, it is a grind, and that's
where you and I can sit now.
But there's a great, I think,Soren Kierkegaard quote where he
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says life must be lived forward, but it is only understood in
reverse.
And you and I couldn't have hadthis conversation in 2020,
because 2020 I'm going.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Quill's been going for a year.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
And what do I do with my clients?
And I've got this roster, buthaving tough conversations with
them, do they keep me on?
It's like all of these things,man.
But again it's made us closeras a family.
Lauren and I are that much moreof a team.
We've become better friends indoing the journey together.
It's been a blessing man.
So Quill still exists.
(35:24):
It's just a little bit more onthe back burner as we've gotten
streamlined going.
Quill is how we funnel Dude.
I don't know if we've evertalked about MIM bands.
Yeah well, bro, I'm about togive you your first one.
After I graduated from TaylorUniversity I found in MIM bands,
which is a mnemonic deviceaiding others in scripture
memory.
So in high school we would do arubber band with a Sharpie.
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You would do the first letterof each word in a verse on top
of the band so for God, so lovethe world.
It'd be like FGSL.
And in college I had this ideafor the first letter on top of a
band and you flip it underneath, you have the full verse
written out.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Okay, reference, I think I've seen these, like I've
seen that before so we did oneat Chick-fil-A.
Did you okay, so maybe that'swhere maybe Claire's worn.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, you invented this, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, which is fun.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
So now we can do customize membands where we can
do your color your logo, yourverse or Remind me to ask you
about this, absolutely, man.
Yeah, it's so fun this siliconewristwear that's been around
for years.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, that's yours, man, so that has our streamlined
company.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Verse cool for for for books and publishing which
is Proverbs 31, 8 and 9?
Yeah, and that that versestarts out open your mouth for
the mute.
And we just think there's somany people out there, man,
they're on mute doesn't meanthey don't have a voice.
They just need someone to helpthem convey their voice in a
digestible manner, and so I'vegot so many ideas already oh
yeah, dude, I mean seriouslywhether it's.
(36:49):
Wwjd or Livestronger.
I'm second.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
It's like my stuff is like, yeah, my stuff's like
pick up the ball, yeah, you know, ask what else is possible.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
It's just, oh yeah, and it's amazing, the goal here
is to get it off your wrist.
Once you hide that word in yourheart, you don't need the band
anymore.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, someone else does.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
So membands kind of like wear, learn, share.
Yeah, that's so good, yeah, soso membands is through quill,
it's kind of sitting but man.
I think, as the year levels outhere, kind of at least goal for
me.
You know, hey, will, what doyou want to do moving forward?
Last year or two, that whereit's been getting stuff set up.
Man, I'm excited to share moreabout streamline.
(37:26):
Yeah, good, more about membands,you know I'm a speaker as well.
I just don't do it as much, youknow, as someone like you or
Alex, and so I'm just continueto explore those opportunities
because, nice, because I love it, man, it's fun to to speak life
into people from the stage andyou get that, yeah well, I saw
also, as I was LinkedIn stalkingyou, that you worked at
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Chick-fil-A at one point.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Or is you like to call it chick?
Yeah, the other day he droppedand he said chick, and I was
okay.
I got a quickly changed bylingo stay with the coolness of
the environment.
So I called it chicks.
So now it's chick to me, but soit chick-fil-a.
You learned this, just apersonal thing.
You learned it's all about thecustomer.
Yeah, right, so is that?
How has that kind of bled overinto streamline books for you
(38:08):
and Alex?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, that's great.
And you know, chick, I guessI've never even thought of it
that I shorten it.
So, dude, you go, chick, youget the flat bill.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah you gotta stay cool.
Yeah, you drink a hoodie withstrings, next man Hoodie
columbian, hang out it, etc.
You know that is the formulafor cool and Anyone that I see
now.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
That's why, like when I look behind that counter and
I see a Claire, I see theseother people, I'm like let's go.
You get to start off yourcareer with this foundation of
XYZ.
You know from Truett Cathy ondown what he did and what he
built and the way thatchick-fil-a is now centered
around instilling joy andrespect for the cut.
You know Good food, it's goodservice.
(38:55):
You know foods number one, ithas to be the best quality
product.
You know all of that stuff isintegral for what we do now.
And it's funny, you, youcorrelate chick-fil-a and
streamline because you know,maybe a year, year and a half
ago, we've talked about thisStreamline.
We're kind of operating alittle bit and I don't want this
to make it to Any sort ofcorporate off of it.
(39:17):
We're kind of operating.
You know Popeyes a little bit.
You know it's like, okay, it'sdecent.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Maybe six to 12 months ago we're kind of
thinking on the fact that mypodcast following isn't huge at
this point.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I don't want to get an email from the CEO.
Popeyes but maybe six to 12months ago.
You know, we're kind of KFC.
Hey, we're making gains, we'vegot KFC famous bowls, but moving
forward, we've talked about howwe would love to be seen as
kind of the chick-fil-a of thepublishing space.
Yeah, to where I, you're, inand out you know, you.
You know what to expect.
(39:50):
It's amazing quality.
You're working with good people, and Integrated into all of
that is this idea of andsometimes we talk about with our
authors.
There's a lot of weight inregard to most of our authors.
It's like they don't know whatthey don't know because they've
never done it before.
Right, right, and some Somepublishing companies,
(40:11):
unfortunately, it's like theywill take that man and they will
misuse it and you know, or evenkind of like we said, it's like
hey, you'll be a best-seller,like that is.
That starts a veering to just alittle bit more exploitative.
It's like you and we do notwant that to be our mission and
vision.
It's like we want to.
It's one of our core values iswe speak truth.
(40:32):
We speak truth, we build trustis another one of our five core
values, and those are integralbecause they're humans, human
souls, human stories and wecan't take that lightly.
And so, while we are very much,you know, high-ticket offering
all these things chick-fil-a,you're in and out From from our
(40:56):
offering to chick-fil-a, it'sthe same thing.
It's treating people withquality, precision, speed, smile
.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, that's great man.
I mean, I was getting thechick-fil-a vibe from you.
Well, I mean from the momentI've met you and I mean that,
like you've got you, just haveit.
You know, you have that thingthat shows me as the reason your
brother opened a store.
I mean, you guys have that inyour blood just the Ability to
immediately connect with someoneand feel, and make them feel
like they're the only person inthe world.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
You know, like all the attention's here.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah, that's why it's like I'm so interested in
everything you have to offer.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah, you just immediately.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
That means that's just who you are.
Yeah, you know, you reallytaught this and I said you learn
things along the way, but man.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
No, thank you.
Hey, it's amazing.
Good parents help and and youand Leonard doing it.
Man, it's funny.
You know, and I'm thebeneficiary.
You know Bill and SuzanneSeverns and my dad growing up.
He would use this line.
He'd say buddy, you know,Everyone communicates if you
connect and I just alwaysthought that was like the
coolest line man and I would usethat and I'll never forget.
(41:57):
One day in college I think I wasin our library and I looked up
and I saw this book on the shelfand it said Everyone
communicates, few connect, byJohn Maxwell.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
And I just remember that moment.
All comes back to Maxwell andit's all Maxwell, but that's
there's something to be saidthere.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
It's like hey, there's nothing new under the
sun.
You know, millions of bookshave been written, yes, but your
story hasn't you know yourspecific angle and your specific
take.
It's like man yet to be writtenso good.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Hey, thanks for meeting today.
Man appreciate it, and I knowwe're gonna talk more, and I
mean this I'd love to have youback on sometime.
Yeah, I love to have Alex onhere.
Maybe get you and Justin andAlex all at the same time.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Oh, that would be so fun.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
You share stories and whatnot, but yeah, as we kind
of wrap up Um, what's the bestway to connect?
No, we've got right.
My books calm.
Is that just the place to go?
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, or LinkedIn.
You know also, if you're to digenough, like me.
The book, yes, you knoweverything.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
I know more about you than you.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, the first book that the book that I wrote that
kind of, was a segue into thisoffering.
For me it was like, if I'mgonna help other people with
this, I wanna know myself iscalled Gouch, and yeah, I don't
know you missed that one.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, yeah, so Gouch is on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
It's about my story of honestly, of deleting social
media and man that's a whole lot, yeah, a whole podcast.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
We'll read the book, but here I am trying to make
more social media projects.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah, and you know and man, there was never a goal
to make this huge marketing push.
It was largely a means to anend.
You know Well, it's actuallywhat led Alex to reaching out.
He goes.
Will I read Gouch?
He goes.
You should help other people dothis.
I was like, well, that's kindaso, dude, it's crazy kind of
this web that's woven Well, Ikept LinkedIn.
That's the one kind of socialplatform, that's the one I
(43:54):
didn't struggle the most with.
And I had told some people inthe year I'd been off social
media for a year up until thatpoint.
I'd told some people it was theclosest I had felt to the
Goucher I-Outverse.
You know which.
I go back and it's Matthew 529,you know, and I just think so
many people, man, they grow thisplatform, this following, and
(44:15):
they kinda almost view the worldthrough this third eye.
You know and sure, maybe deletethe app off your phone for Lint
, you know, or a few weeks at atime, but you can't imagine
actually deleting your profile.
For me, when I pulled that plug, my life became my marriage.
And so Gouch is.
I think I got on that because Ikept LinkedIn.
(44:36):
Linkedin is probably the mostI'm active.
I think LinkedIn's great andit's fun.
I'm not like a huge apollot,but yeah, I'd love to connect on
LinkedIn or totally throughStreamline If you or someone you
know you're going oh my gosh,my uncle's had it for years.
It's like, yeah, we'd love toget connected.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Okay, awesome, the Gouch thing now has me, because
I'm social media and I'm someonewho deletes the apps off my
phone and someone else posts forme a lot of the time and so I
try not to be on there.
But I wanna influence thatspace because that's where
people hang out.
But the power of it's kindalike when you finally cut up
your credit card.
It's like there's not even thatsafety net, so I have to find
(45:13):
another way.
I imagine it's the same kind offreedom, right.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
and I would say it's not that I'm anti-social media.
Social media's amazing.
It connects people millions.
But it's kinda the point ofGouch.
It's like only you know whatyou need to Gouch in your life.
Totally.
This isn't me saying deleteyour social media.
It's saying if you can't handleit like I couldn't.
It's like it's not worth it,Get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Well, that's the great thing about sharing a
story.
It's not like, hey, my storyhas to be your story, but learn
from this story, take from itwhat you can and apply it to
your life Exactly, but edit itright as you put it in your life
.
I love it, man.
It's so great, okay, awesome.
So connect with Will.
And thanks again to EcceteraShawnee.
We also have the link for therestaurant.
If you're local, if you're inKansas City, especially like
(45:54):
Shawnee Linux Overland Park,come on by.
It's really good.
Just one last question Is thatcool before we wrap for you?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, all right, just one piece of advice for my
daughters, and it's you know,just you know yeah, you have
kids.
You know, what would you wantyour kids to know while they're
young, as they're growing up?
Man, Just one thing.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Man.
One thing that's a great, greatquestion Is I think about.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
And don't just quote Maxwell.
Yeah, or you can Shoot Dude,let's just wrap it up.
Let's just wrap up the pod,that's all you have.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, man, for your daughters is I think about?
You know our son and ourdaughter.
You know they're coming out ofthis infancy and toddler, so we
haven't gotten to you.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
We have some of those too.
Yes, you got toddlers.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
I would just say to so cool you were mentioning
earlier a breakfast reading, Imean, cultivate a love for the
written word and reading andgoing on adventures, be it
(47:14):
through.
You know.
You mentioned your love forfiction, and in what fiction?
I'm a bit, I love fiction, andwhat fiction can tell you and
teach you about real life, yeah,and so I would, I guess, just
say keep doing what you're doing.
You know, don't lose that lovefor reading and what your
parents have instilled in you,be it adventures on the page or
adventures as a family.
(47:34):
And I think I actually heardone cool thing on a podcast.
I'm blinking on the author'sname.
He wrote a book called Habitsof the Household.
I don't know if you've heard ofit, I bet you would love it.
And James Early, I think, and hejust wrote another book on
friendship and the importance ofsiblings as friends.
(47:57):
And for your girls I would say,hey, y'all stay tight, you
seven.
And he said something on thispodcast of sometimes in life we
find ourselves of there's beautyin making friends, of family
and family.
Or he says our goal should beto turn our closest friends into
(48:25):
family and our family intofriends.
Wow, that's it.
Family's hard man and I can'timagine you know just the
different relational dynamics asyour girls get older.
But stay tight, Because whenthey're in their teens and their
20s and their 30s, if they cankeep that connection, how do you
keep the connection going?
(48:46):
Trips with each other, you know, and it doesn't have to be to
call her out every time it canbe, but you know, hey, once a
month, you know, bring them inhere, you know, and we're gonna,
so stay friends.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
That's great.
I love that that's been.
I tell people this all the time.
That's one of the things Ireally hope for them is to be
friends later in life.
So this just reinforces that,and so I know they'll hear this
someday at some point in sometime.
So thank you for that.
And I know that they value thattoo, and there are weird
dynamics with the different agesand personalities.
But you hope that over timethat'll just kind of balance out
(49:20):
the way it's supposed to andthat they'll.
I just want those seven girls tobe best friends for life.
Man, that's great.
And then your other piece ofadvice read.
I love it.
It comes back to the brandPeople.
You have it straight from themouth of Will Severin's write
books and read books.
Yeah, readers and leaders.
There it is.
Readers and leaders, awesome,hey, thank you so much Thanks
for being here.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
I love you too.
I love you too.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Seriously man.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Yeah, sounds like gouges and maybe a segway.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
That's right, okay, awesome, Well, hey thank you all
so much for joining.
This has been so much fun.
And remember to never stopasking the question.
What else is possible?
Mm-hmm MUSIC.
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