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January 11, 2024 51 mins

You're an animal. Don't believe me? Just ask Candy Whirley. In her book, "It Takes 4 to Tango," (that's right...4, not 2!) Candy brilliantly lays out the 4 personality types based on animals - the chameleon, lion, lamb and owl...which are you? Also...which are the people you live and work with? Knowing what "animal" they are can also help you serve and care for them at the highest level.

And by the way...this episode is a BLAST! I mean, what else would you expect from a former Chiefs Chiefette?

Candy, a seasoned motivational speaker, also opens up about the challenges of generational communication, particularly in professional settings. She enlightens us with practical approaches to bridging the generational gap. Venturing deeper, we delve into the world of emotional intelligence and how it intertwines with the practice of yoga. Candy, a certified yoga instructor, shares how this ancient practice has transformed her approach to emotional intelligence and even guides us through a simple chair yoga move and breathing exercise.

We draw the episode to a close by shedding light on the significance of self-care. Candy shares her personal rule of taking one day off every week and the huge positive impact it has had on her life. Don't miss the chance to keep asking, "what else is possible?" and open yourself to new possibilities as you strive for growth and improvement. This episode is loaded with inspiration, practical advice, and thought-provoking discussions designed to ignite your desire to explore the endless possibilities in your life. Tune in and let's explore together!

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Guest Website: https://www.candywhirley.com/

It Takes 4 to Tango (Candy’s book): https://www.candywhirley.com/candy-store.html

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Alright, what's up everybody.
Welcome to the possibilitymindset podcast.
I'm Devin Henderson, I'm yourhost and I believe that
something greater is alwayspossible for you.
I'm guessing you agree withthat too.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
You can jump on board with that theory.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Maybe never in those words before, but it makes sense
.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
It does Okay, good Awesome.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, I'm excited to introduce our amazing guest for
today, but first of all, I justwant to say thank you to etc.
Shawnee for providing the spaceand providing us with breakfast
.
So you drove a long way to gethere today.
I didn't know you had to driveso far, but like an hour and a
half Hour and a half.
Wow, this is Candy.
That's the informalintroduction Candy you drove all

(00:51):
this way.
I appreciate it.
Was the breakfast alone worththe?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
hour and a half drive .
Truly, truly, I'm going to gowith the avocado toast.
Avocado toast yeah, incredible,it looks good it had that fresh
mozzarella on top of the toastand I was like hey, you want to
trade?
I was thinking it, I wasn'tgoing to be like, come on, let's
trade.
It was, it was so good, awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
So thank you, etc.
Shawnee, also, before we jumpin, can I just talk about
something that they might beinterested in?
Yep, okay, awesome, I'll savethe best for last Candy.
That's what we're doing.
So I'm day 23 off coffee.
I didn't tell you that yet.
Yeah, I've been a huge coffeedrinker for years now and it's
been my daily ritual.
But I've always struggled withsleep.

(01:33):
So as a kid and even intoadulthood, pop like soda coke,
whatever you want to call it wasmy big thing.
So I've always had a highcaffeine intake.
So then I quit pop cold turkey,like eight or nine years ago.
But then I quit pop then and Iwent to coffee.
So coffee became my new ritual.
I knew I need this every day.
I love this, but I've alwaysstruggled with sleep and I've

(01:56):
always struggled with energy allday long.
So I was like I need to make achange.
So I'm 23 days off coffee, justto kind of detox and see is
this going to affect me at all?
So I don't know.
I'll get back to you exactly onhow that's working.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Okay, I know what I know.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
But something that I discovered a couple years ago
was something called mud water,which is why I want to tell you
guests about it's a coffeealternative.
It's mushroom based and itcaught my attention because it's
only about 35 milligrams ofcaffeine per cup, where coffee
is more like a hundred.
And so I thought, man, Isometimes I drink three or four
cups of coffee a day.
I could drink like three cupsof mud water one day, and that's

(02:30):
about the equivalent of one cupof coffee in terms of caffeine.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
My girlfriend started it too.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Did she really?
It loves it.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Loves it.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Awesome, awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
And it helps more than sleep?
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
It boosts immunity, helps your energy and gives you
focus, and I'm finding that tobe true, and I was actually
doing kind of a mud water coffeecombination before I went cold
turkey with coffee.
I've been here recently here,but now that I'm like it's all
mud water and I am finding thatmy sleep has been improving and
that my energy is.
I'm having more of it and morefocus throughout the day, just a

(03:03):
little.
I've noticed a little bit of adifference, which is huge when
you've been struggling withsomething for years.
So just want to let you knowabout mud water.
Try it out.
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There's lion's mane,fermentable performance.
There's Cordyceps If I'm sayingthat right for physical
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There's Rishi for recovery,immunity.
Chagra for overall health,turmeric for inflammation, cacao

(03:25):
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It's good that Cacao gives itthe chocolate flavor and I put
honey in it.
It tastes like hot chocolate.
It's amazing.
It's actually what I'm drinkingright now.
So check it out, give it achance.
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Slash Devin.
Okay so mudwater isM-U-D-W-T-Rcom.

(03:48):
They just took the vowels outof the word water, not sure why,
but it looks cool and it'sshorter right.
So that is mudwaterM-U-D-W-T-Rcom slash Devin.
Now, this is going to come outlater.
Right now, this is November.
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This is coming out in January.
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(04:11):
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Speaker 2 (04:19):
I'm going to try it.
You're going to do it Well,because here's the thing the
girlfriend that I just told youabout, devin, has fibromyalgia.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Oh, yeah, and it has helped with that.
Really.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
It has helped with her sleep.
Yeah, it is, so that's great.
Well, thanks for that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I mean because maybe there's someone on here
struggling with fibromyalgia andthere you go yeah, it could
help.
So that's great.
You know, it's really funnybecause last week I pitched a
product about a certain kind ofshoe and the guy was totally on
board with the whole barefootmentality.
So I just God's working thisout.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Whether the right guests are coming on with the
right product.
This was not planned.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
No, because you didn't even tell me.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
No, I didn't tell you .
So that's awesome.
So, but, yeah, speaking ofwhich, this is like this is the
last day of November.
So, no shave, november almostover, people almost over.
You want to put this image formuch longer.
So, anyway, that, yeah, and itmakes me think, like, where will
the chiefs be come January,when this comes out?

(05:17):
Because just now, they lost tothe Eagles and then they won
against, yeah, the Raiders, andI'm supporting my chiefs today
for a specific reason.
It has to do with the guests.
You're about to find out, but Iwant to blow the surprise yet.
So, so, candy, what I want todo is I want to go ahead and, by
the way, all the links that wesay will be in the footer, so

(05:39):
that mudwater link will be inthere.
If you just check it out, ifyou're listening, make sure to
get the full experience here,because candy is a very fun,
lively, visual expressive person.
If you want to get the fullexperience, go to YouTube at
Devin Henderson speaker for thatfull experience.
Don't forget to subscribe andlike and share.
We want to extend our reach.
So also, you know, comment onApple Spotify.
We'd love all that.

(06:00):
Okay, all right, it is now timefor the best part, where we get
to introduce our wonderfulguests.
So candy Worley is a CSP, whichis a certified speaking
professional.
I like to think of CSP like theblack belt of public speaking.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's how I describe it.
It was hard, it was hard, it is.
It's a process, isn't it?
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
She's a producer of several books and training
programs and has spoken in all50 states, as well as several
other countries Canada, korea.
You're in Seoul, seoul Korea.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
I said Seoul, oh boy, seoul Korea.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
I just was reading it .
And in Africa.
And she is a certified yogateacher, which I want to hear
more about too.
Okay, cause I know that's sortof a new development in your.
By the way, I have a job.
It's a joke when peopleintroduce me I have not spoken
in all 50 states.
I've spoken in like.
Well, the introduction is Devinhas spoken in all 50 states
except Hawaii and Alaska, andlike 17 others.
So that's, that's the joke.

(06:55):
So I don't want to speak in all50 states cause I can't say
that anymore.
Yeah, okay.
So candy's been married for 36years Congratulations, that's
incredible.
Business owner for 22 years,grammy for 16 years and four
months.
Grammy meaning grandma.
When I first read that I waslike Grammy award, yeah, but she
does have the Grammy award,right, she's an incredible

(07:16):
grandma.
And here we go.
Here's the chief's connection.
Are you ready?
She was a Kansas city chief'schief fat for three years, yeah,
yeah.
And then you read the last lineoh, that's eight.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
These are her words A long time ago Was that in the
galaxy far, far away?

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
No, I love it.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I think I recently got to perform again.
We did Like last season.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
And it was this, it was at this time, cause all my
Facebook memories were coming up.
It was this time last year theyasked all of the alum to come
back.
There were 300 of us.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Wow, and we got to perform at halftime.
Wow, how cool is that.
What did that feel like?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Oh my gosh, I couldn't believe it.
I almost started crying.
I was just like oh my gosh, Ibet as soon as our group came
out, because, believe it or not,I'm 61.
I wasn't the oldest.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't believe it.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
And so we all had different dances, okay.
And as soon as we came out onthe field 50 yard line, I was
like, oh my gosh, I'm back, I'mback.
I felt like I was 18 years oldagain.
Yeah, I feel like it just wasyesterday.
It was.
It just did this last year.
Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
That's so cool that they did that.
So that's amazing.
Awesome.
She's got her red on, so we areall chiefs today baby yes, and
so I want to use this as ourlaunching pad too.
She's the author of the book ittakes four to tango.
Now I know the answer to thisquestion, but I'm going to ask
it because they won't know theanswer yet.
It takes four to tango.
I thought it just took two totango Candy.

(08:54):
What does four mean?

Speaker 2 (08:55):
What is that all about?
You know what it's the fourpersonalities Everybody has
taken this is what I usuallytell them in my speaking.
Everybody has taken some kindof a strengths and weaknesses
test.
Disc D-I-S-C true colorsthere's a self, there's
Myers-Briggs.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well, I just and Enneagram is the big one I'm
hearing about now, right, yes,yeah, there's all kinds of these
.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
And so I just studied all this information and made
it fun.
And so I've got fourpersonalities who people can
relate to, who people get rightaway.
I've had people come up to meafterwards and say, oh my gosh,
I've taken all those tests.
I really get it now.
So that's.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
I can vouch for it.
Okay, I said that I knew theanswer to the question because I
know her concept.
Candy and I have showcasedtogether a few, three or four
times maybe, and I've seen thiswhole message.
Here's the book.
It takes four to tango.
Check it out.
You got to.
You know what we'll do.
Can they buy this, like throughAmazon?
They?

Speaker 2 (09:59):
can go to my site or Amazon.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Okay, you know, we'll link the Amazon link to Candy's
book.
Okay, you got some others here.
Just touch on those.
Should we get to this one orsave that one?
Let's save it.
Let's save it.
Okay, awesome, so it takes fourto tango Now.
So you do this in your, in yourkeynote presentation, and I can
vouch for everything you justsaid.
Cause, when you think aboutokay, personality test,
strengths test, strengths findertest, they're great, right,

(10:23):
it's not like we're dissing onthem.
We're not dissing on this.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Oh gosh, you know he does it good?
Not at all.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
But sometimes it's like a lengthy process to find
it out.
Candy's keynote is about hey,let's take a real quick test.
You can assess it in just a fewminutes.
You're going to know exactlywhat you are.
And she starts to unpack thefour personalities.
You see people lighting up,laughing, nudging each other,
because they can very quicklyidentify themselves into one of

(10:50):
these four categories.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
And judging each other, and judging each other,
and I'll tell you when I startedtelling people.
That's going to lead right tothis.
When I started telling peopleyou know here's what I don't.
At the beginning, when I startgoing through the
characteristics, I tell them notto judge their neighbor.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Because they do.
They want to say, oh, that'syou, that's you.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Well, and then I started thinking about no, you
know what?
I do want people to judge eachother, especially when they go
back to work, because I tellthem people aren't difficult,
they're just different.
I want you to figure out.
I want you to judge who peopleare.
So that's when the developmentof pull that out.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
there the development of this postcard.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
All right check this out, if you're listening, you'll
have to watch on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
You have to watch on YouTube the four personalities
right there.
I have the four animals, I havethe four animals.
And I have theircharacteristics?
Yeah, I love this.
I love to hear which one I am.
Just from the last showcase wedid like a month ago.
Oh, yeah, I was like, yeah, I'mthe lamb, I'll just give it away
, but I'm excited about knowingwhat I am, so take us through,

(12:00):
and I love that part about youknow we're different, and so
this in a minute, whenever's thetime, tell us why we need to
know that about the other people.
Why is it important to knowthat we're all different?
Why does it make a differencein the workplace?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
in other words, Because it's about connection.
Yeah, and that is my bottomline.
That is what I'm hired for isreconnecting people.
Reconnecting people, because wesit there and we get upset at
people because they don't thinklike we do, they don't talk like
we do, they don't communicatelike we do, and it's like wait a

(12:34):
second, you know, let's learnthose characteristics, learn how
to communicate so we can learnhow to adapt.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
And I tell people don't, I don't want you turning
into another animal, anotherpersonality but, I, want you to
learn to adapt and respect thosedifferences Because we tend to
treat people the way we think wewant to be treated.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
But it's like that whole thing.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Don't treat people the way you want to be treated.
Treat people the way they wantto be treated.
Because they're going torespond better to their
coworkers, to their leaders, totheir managers, if you
understand the chemical makeupof their body, which this you
know.
It comes down to it, so that Ican give you the kind of love
and nurturing and guidance thatyou're going to accept and
perform the best way possible,right, so okay.
So the four animals take methrough them.

(13:18):
Candy, what do we have here?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Okay, okay, all right , so we have the chameleon.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
And think about this as you hear this go ahead.
No, you're doing the same thing, I know this is the fun part of
this Think about which one youare.
Okay, and then think also aboutthe people around you your
spouse, your significant other,your coworkers and like oh, this
might shed a little light onhelp understanding them better
and your own children, your ownchildren, they're all different.

(13:43):
They're all of your girls.
They're so different.
Yes, yes, yes, they are.
It's crazy, all right.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
So, in a nutshell, we're not you know, don't have
time to give you everything, butin a nutshell, chameleon, think
about chameleon.
What happens when a chameleongets on you?
It changes.
Chameleons love change, theylove, they're very flexible,
they can go this way, they cango that way.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, and they can talk you into anything.
And they have a saying they'relike oh, I'm a car salesman.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Oh right, yes, I mean , hey, that's not a dig, that's
a skill.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I know, and in the book I do have a section on
here's the job you are probablyin oh yeah, or here's the job
you should probably look into.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
You need to move too.
Yeah.
So you tell your audience justhey, everybody quit your jobs,
go do something else.
I understand, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's why I don't bring it up at my conferences,
okay, and so that, and they likeappreciation, they like the
paths on the map.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
So then we have a lion.
A lion likes to be in chargeBottom line.
They like results.
When you're talking to them.
They're the ones that just getto the point.
Okay, Stop messing around.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Stop beating around the bush.
Yeah, I do have someone in myfamily like this.
Yes, I don't mean that a badway, but immediately I'm like
yes.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yes, yes, because I'm going to tell you, if you, if,
if anybody decides to get thebook, this is a great game for
Christmas.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Oh, it's a family game For Christmas 2024.
Oh, that's right.
Oh, it's going to be in January.
It's a great Valentine's Daygame.
Yeah, it's a great Valentine'sDay game.
It's a great Valentine's Daygame.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, it's a great.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Valentine's Day.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
But anyway, okay, okay.
So the Lions have a saying andit's get it done.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Bottom line All right , lambs Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Lambs are your peacemakers, the peacemakers of
work, the peacemakers in youroffice, the peacemakers at home.
They're great listeners, theylove to work in teams and
they're saying is get along, soyou're a lamb.
I am a lamb, have you been alamb all the times you've seen
me.
I've changed, I believe so Idon't think I've changed that

(15:39):
much, but sometimes I do.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Let me ask you this before you get onto the next one
Are there sometimes?
Do we have overlap between?
Like I have a piece of the line, because I would say the part
of the lamb that it doesn'tresonate with me is the last
thing you said, which was likingto work in teams.
I prefer to work alone, but I'mvery much that peacemaker,
empathetic, good listener typeperson, but that's.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
these two have that in common.
Okay, so you have a little bitof Al in you?

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, and we'll talk about that.
A little bit of wisdom in there.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yes, so lamb Tell me more.
You need your glasses.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
I need my glasses.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, Lambs, they're saying, is get along.
We said that Al Al.
Think about it.
Why is Al?
They're the analyticles theylike the data, the research.
They'd rather work alone.
Okay, yeah, yeah and they'resaying is get it right.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
And so, if you think about the chameleons and the
lions, because I always telleverybody we have a primary, we
have a secondary.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yes, okay.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
So the chameleons and the lions?
They take the lead.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
When there's a project, they take the lead, but
I always tell them you can'tget anything done without the
lambs and the al's, they're thedoers.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Oh, thanks everyone, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
So you might feel like you're one of those.
One of those.
Okay, chameleons and lambs arevery people oriented.
They love people, they like towork with people.
Lions and al's are very taskoriented.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
So give me the task Now.
Here's the hard part, and youguys are getting you're getting
my keynote in a blink.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
There you go For free , For free.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
The opposite, your polar opposite.
Who drives you?
Your lamb?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Who drives you the craziest Cause you like peace.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
You?
Yeah, probably the chameleon.
The chameleon, you know I'm notso flexible Like when someone's
like let's go on a last minuteroad trip.
I'm like I haven't gotten toplan this for two months yet
Right.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
So I'm kind of like See that's where, but here's the
thing.
That's where your al kind ofcomes in because you're at the
planning part yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
I'm not about spreadsheets and data, but there
is, yeah, a flavor of the alcoming in.
I can see that now there needsto be a plan.
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Well, so the opposites, the polar opposites.
Usually let's just jump rightinto it.
The chameleons and the al's areusually polar opposite.
Okay, I'm going to tell theaudience right now.
That's probably who you'remarried to, or your significant
other.
Polar opposite.
What did?

Speaker 1 (18:09):
they say Opposites attract, opposites attract.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Because, chameleons, we want to go like this.
Because I'm a chameleon andal's.
Nope, we've got a list, we'vegot it.
And then, polar opposite, lionand a lamb.
Get to the bottom line Lambs.
Oh, can we just talk about it.
Can we figure this out.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Okay, does that make sense?
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
So think about the people I want to tell the
audience, tell you, think aboutthe people who drive you crazy,
and it is, it's probably yourpolar opposite, but look at
their strengths and in my talkthat's what I go through.
What are your strengths?

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
How do we communicate with you?
What are perceived negatives?

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
So can you tell, I like this Excellent.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
No, that's.
I mean it makes.
Now I can see why you crush itup.
There's so much on the stageBecause when she gets up and
does this and I mean, if youthink this is fun, which is very
, imagine her in front of, likeyou know, your audience of you
know 100, 300, 500, 1,000 peopleshe's able to facilitate this
and bring it right home topeople.
In the moment you get up people, when the ground size is the

(19:15):
right size, you get them up andmove them.
to the four corners of the roomyou have the posters of the
animal pictures.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
And it's so fun and they're all relating, and I mean
humans.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
We're so complicated, We'd love for it to just be one
animal for everybody.
No, it's four animals.
Well, not just that, Everyanimal has its like polar
opposite, or, yeah, Enneagramcalls it a wing.
You've got a tendency towardsyou know you're on the six, but
I might have like a wing seven,and so this is.
You're covering that, but invery simple, relatable terms.

(19:45):
That can be done very quicklyand very effectively.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
And I'm telling you In the setting like this.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
It's so cool.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
And relatable no matter where.
Because you talked about soul,I got to speak for the million
dollar round table.
It's awesome and soul Korean.
There were 4,000 from sevendifferent countries and they got
it yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
They got it.
I remember seeing some promofootage from that yes, and you
can tell they were getting it.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
I mean, that's yeah, now I didn't get them in the
four corners, but what.
I did is just like what you saw.
You know, I gave them thecharacteristics and then, if
you're a chameleon, stand upplease.
And then I gave them their darksides which was so funny.
Because your dark sides arereally come out under pressure,
under stress.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
So yeah, Well, so a call to action on the takes four
to tango thing in the comments.
You know, let us know.
Which animal are you?
Okay Again, are you thechameleon, the lion, the lamb or
the owl?
And and expand on that you know, which one are you married to?
Is it the polar opposite?
Do you have like a flavor ofone of the other animals mixed
in with that?
And who are people around you,without starting a fight, who

(20:51):
are people around you that yousee?
Oh, this person's this.
I need to handle themdifferently.
You don't have to name names,but it just be fun.
Go to the comments, let us know.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
And it's okay.
I want to tell you what's goingto happen.
You're going to, we're going tosee.
Comments are going oh my gosh,I'm a lion and I'm married to a
lion.
What's going to happen?

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, what, what, what is going to happen?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Everything works out.
It's okay and I tell them gohome, share this information
with your people, with yourpeople at work, with your people
at home.
So you just get each other.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, you get each other.
You're married about half aslong as you have.
But even I know, and so you canmaybe vouch for me on this
marriage is difficult, it'smessy, it takes work.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
And my wife and I are always communicating about.
Okay, how does this make youfeel?
You know when I said that we'llanalyze conversations, not not
to judge and to bring upunnecessary dirt, but to learn
from it and say how can I serveyou better, more effectively.
And I think I want to take this, can I take this card?

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, because it's perspective.
We have different perspectives,totally.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
And I think I know which one she is.
But I want to ask her which oneshe thinks she is and which one
she thinks I am, because Ithink that'll be a fun launchpad
for a conversation for us, fora day and night.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
What do you think she is?

Speaker 1 (22:02):
She's not going to say this on your life, yeah, no
yeah, I think she's a well again, I think she's a chameleon,
mostly because she's veryflexible, adaptable.
As a mother of seven you haveto be constantly changing.
She's not so much a risk taker.
So I would say that's the onething and the chameleon that I'm
like.
Hmm, you know, there's got tobe something else.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
But I think she's.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
I think, yeah, and I think she's a chameleon with a
little bit of lamb kind of thatempathy like that team player.
Let's do this together.
So so I love this.
This will be very, a lot of funfor us to do.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
We haven't done that yet, so awesome Okay.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
So, and then there's there's so many other places we
could go, candy, and I see theother book which I didn't know
you had a second book.
Can we talk about that?
Yes, okay, what's it called?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
We called it.
It takes four generations toTango.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
We're staying with the theme of the four.
Okay, I like that.
I like that, yes.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Actually and you can talk you probably talked to a
lot of speakers we call it ourCOVID book you know, because all
of our businesses shut down andI had been collecting data from
my participants for three yearsand it was like perfect timing.
So with my generations it's.

(23:20):
I'm glad we just talked aboutTango because it's very similar.
But I break them up into theirgenerations.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
So the boomers talk to the boomers, the Xers talk to
the Xers.
Millennials and Zs now I havelots of Zs.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Sounds juicy, it is so juicy.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Well, the whole book and I ask them questions and
they get to answer the questionsout loud.
Well, at the very end I allowthem to write a burning question
on a poster to any generationand that generation has to
answer it.
So I know, like boomers,they'll put boomers.

(24:02):
We want to know millennials.
Why do you feel so entitled?
It's the question of the hour.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Let us know in the comments why do you feel so
entitled?

Speaker 2 (24:12):
I know they're going to go what?

Speaker 1 (24:14):
I was almost a millennial.
I was born in 79, which makesme a Y, I think, if that's right
.
And then my wife.
Well, she was 80.
How old are you?
Not 44,?
But she was born in 80.
Am I a millennial?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
You're a millennial.
Really, millennials are 46.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Oh, okay, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Here's the thing when you do research, yes, and let
me say this when you do.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
It makes sense now.
I know myself now.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
So, um, when you do research, when I did research
for my book, for my talk, bridgethe Gap, the researchers vary
one to two years with the age,with the breakdown, okay, okay,
okay, I do.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
You see what I'm saying, so you might look up
another researcher and you're anex.
Okay.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
But the ones that I found the most.
You're a millennial.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Okay, okay, that's good to know.
Yeah, I don't know, it's just afun time.
I'm a millennial.
Yeah, there you go.
I gotta consider my audiencewhen I say that, though.
Right, like, who am I talkingto?
Yay, all right, all right.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
And so or another question would be from the
millennials, or even the Z'swill ask the boomers why do you
hate change?
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, you know, okay,that's a good question, and so
I tell my groups, I come in andI stir the pot, I open up the
conversation of what's buggingyou the most, and then I get to

(25:37):
leave, and so they get to figureit out.
Well, what I did.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Put it in your boxing gloves I'm gone, I'm gone, yeah
.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I gathered all those posters Devin for three years,
yeah, yeah.
And that's what this book is.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
They wrote the book for you.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
They wrote the book for me.
It is all their questions.
Wow, I even have.
I even took pictures because Iwanted people to believe.
I even took pictures of some ofthe posters.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Oh nice, Uh-huh, Let me hold that up.
Yeah, let's just okay, let'scheck this out, let's put the
camera here, so it is all of thequestions.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I believe you can see that, all of the answers that
were given around the country.
Oh yeah, so that's what thatbook?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
is Gen Z.
What do you truly care about?
Wow, yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
It's juicy, it gets real.
It's the generation that getsreal juicy.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I'm just I'm thinking , I'm sure.
I'm sure I'm thinking aboutsomething.
Where do these like?
Do these overlap?
There has to be, because in thedifferent generations you're
gonna have differentpersonalities.
Is that just too dirty to tryto get into in a keynote?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I've been asked.
I know, but I've been asked.
I've been asked hey, is thereany research?
I haven't found it yet.
Am I gonna do it?

Speaker 1 (26:44):
No, yeah, good for you.
Good for you, I mean, this isenough to take in.
I'm the kind of guy I'm like.
I have to explore every singlething you know and I think too
much.
That's why that's probably mysleep problem.
I just never turn it off.
So, no, that's so great.
Well, that's amazing Candy.
So then, question you, talkabout these you have you speak

(27:05):
on.
I think you mentioned one ofthe topics.
Emotional intelligence,Emotional intelligence.
Tell me about that.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
So that I stick with my four.
I talk about the fourcomponents of emotional
intelligence and I you know whatand that, and that is the one
that goes hand in hand with yoga.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Okay.
It worked out beautifully.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Because emotional intelligence is about looking at
your emotions during change,during hard times, and I give
them tools and techniques, howto communicate better, how to
stay calm in those times, and Itell them hey, we're humans, I'm
not telling you not to be mad,not to be sad, not to be glad,

(27:51):
but there's a time for that.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Okay, there's a space for that, so that, that one.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I tease my audiences because I am so interactive and
I use so much humor.
But this talk I still use humor, but I get a little bit serious
on.
What are you hanging on to?
That's causing you to beemotional.
So that's what that is.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, well, candy it's.
I mean, I've known you, I don'tknow how long now since I
started speaking, which has been13, 14 years, something like
that I'm just gonna say.
It's middle-wide and I've we'venever gotten to really go real
deep with, like you know,personal I like, I'm like, why
is Candy so happy, so bubbly?
So it's just part of who she is.
It's natural that she becamelike a chief's chief at.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
You know, you just had the.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
You're always smiling .
You've got that energy thatlike I could see a stadium you
know jumping on board with andthat's contagious.
But take me back just a littlebit.
Like were you into dance andcheer when you were a kid?
How did you?
How did you grow into that?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
I was.
I was.
I had started taking dancing inelementary school, so I had
danced clear up until then.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
And I was on my palm squad at school.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
And when I was a chief at you could be in high
school.
See, you have to be 21 now.
Oh, okay, yeah, so I was on mypalm squad and a chief at for
two years at the same time.
You were busy, I was busy.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
I was super busy.
What did that feel like whenyou were on the chief squad and
then come back to your highschool?
You were the only one, I'massuming.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
No, there was one other there.
What?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
were you guys just like the goddesses?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
of the palm palm and were like oh my gosh.
Saw you on TV, candy, and thenhe was like I'm gonna take a
writer, because I just told mygrandsons this.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
I have three grandsons.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I just told them this because they go to my high
school.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Oh cool, they go to my high school.
Now, what?
Where are you from?
What high school is thatWinnitonka, winnitonka,
winnitonka, which is in Missouri?
Okay, yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay, and so yes, I was a chief at, but then I would
be the palmie, the palm and Iwould do half time and pre-game,
before the basketball games.
I was the varsity basketballteam statistician.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
You brought some owl into it, right.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Like a little bit of stats.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Can you believe it?
I can't believe it, I know.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
I lettered, I know, I know I'm trying to picture you
all of a sudden likewhoo-hoo-hoo-hoo.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
OK, let's get this spreadsheet going here with the
stats.
I don't see that crossing over.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I finally gave something Devon didn't know
about me.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, you blew my mind just now, for sure, I know.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
I know.
So I would have my little Pommyuniform on and I would be
sitting behind the guys.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
And my girlfriend did it too, and I was the
statistician that had to.
Every basket that they made Ihad to circle and put their
number.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Sure sure, Wow.
What was that?
How did you get that gig?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
I T8 for the coach.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
OK, ok, and he's like listen.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I need it and I traveled with him.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Wow, that's crazy, so I lettered in Boy's basketball.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
So out when I talk at , this is getting weirder by the
minute.
Out when I talk and I noticedthey finally did it.
Don't tell me that you actuallyplayed for the team also OK all
right.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
I was like I don't know where this is going, so
anything could happen now.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
And they had.
They used to.
Everybody that lettered hadtheir pictures up on the wall
with their letter.
And Mary and I were the onlytwo girls on the boy's side.
Yeah, cool.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
So Mama.
So what else about you?
Are you part?

Speaker 2 (31:29):
of the CIA.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I'm a rebel, I'm a rebel, I'm a rebel, I'm a CIA
agent, I don't know what else.
No, that's so cool.
So I mean, you have thisbackground like cheer, so it
makes so much sense that youwent into motivational speaking.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
You're cheering people on in life is what you're
doing, right and I ride thatand I told them I'll ride it
till the day I die.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Because, you know, we teach them the cheer.
What's the cheer?
Yeah, we need to do the cheer.
It's a snap clap woohoo, theydo a cheer Snap, clap, woohoo,
all right.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
And the thing is, I've taught, I've spoke in front
of all engineers before and I'mlike OK, how are you feeling
about the cheer to my client?

Speaker 1 (32:07):
How do you feel?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
about the cheer.
He said you do that cheer.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Nice.
You make them do that cheer,get them uncomfortable, right I
mean?
So the cheer like.
What is that a symbol of?
Is that about like we need tocelebrate more.
We need to cheer each other on?
What's the purpose of the snap?
Clap, woohoo.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Well, two reasons.
It goes with the cheerleaderthing, Because my introduction
is about she was a chief'scheerleader.
So and I tell them, just likeyou said, I'm here to cheer you
through life and I want you tocheer for each other.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Because I don't use PowerPoint.
And.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I tell them that right up front and I said but
we're going to be interactive,we're going to be working in
teams and I want you to cheerfor each other.
That's the cheer, and thatgives them it's back to being
brain-brained.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Well, it's what these opening and closing keynotes
need, right?
It's just energy, fun and youbring that and you get everybody
involved and just from theget-go with the woohoo, I mean
that's awesome.
So then we'll kind of fastforward through.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Now you're a yoga instructor right, I am, which to
me is when I'm not speaking.
Yeah, so tell me about.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
How did you get into?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
that.
What's that mean for you rightnow?
Let's go back to COVID.
I, you know, all of ourbusinesses Devin, all of our
businesses shut down.
So I thought, OK, I can't sitaround, so wrote the second book
and then I started working onmy retirement plan, and my

(33:36):
retirement plan was always.
I've been practicing yoga forprobably about 15 to 18 years
already.
Ok, and so my retirement plan,when I'm done speaking, was to
teach yoga, and then I alwayswanted to be a substitute
teacher.
That was my in my brain when Iwas a young kid.

(33:56):
I always thought I'd be ateacher.
Well, I am.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, I am there, you go, there, you go yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
And so that's what I started working on.
So I got certified as a yogainstructor.
I have a, we have a yoga studioit's not my yoga studio, dear,
oh.
These sweet guys have a yogastudio called North Star
Wellness and I teach for themonce a week.
One of them's had emergencyappendectomy, so I've been
substituting, substituting forhim, but eventually, when I

(34:26):
they're ready for me, when Iretire, to start teaching full
time.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Wow, that's great.
And so if someone's listening,they happen to be in your area.
Like what if you say, hey, ifyou're in this area, come check
out Kansas.
Do you want to plug it?
It's a small town.
I know it's a small town, it's.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Richmond, missouri, richmond, missouri, which is
close to Lexington, it's east ofKansas City.
Richmond's actually just 40minutes east of Kansas City, 30
minutes east of Liberty.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
From the highway that goes right by World's of Fun
right.
Yes, 210.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yes, yeah, 210.
It's 210.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, ok.
So if you're in the RichmondMissouri area, hey, look it up.
What's the name of your yoga?

Speaker 2 (35:03):
It's North Star Wellness.
And I do restorative yoga.
So you have blankets andbolsters and blocks and oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, so who's your clientele mainly?

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Right now, you know what it's right down the middle
I still have 30s and 40s, but Ialso, on my Mondays, I have 70s
to 80s.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
OK, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Oh, yoga, I can't talk enough about it, and now
people are starting to, I'll goahead, and when I'm working with
clients I'll go ahead and say,hey, if you got emotional
intelligence, yeah, we reallylike that.
When I said I teach chair yoga,they're like, oh my gosh, we've
got to have that.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
What does that look like in a corporate setting?
Is it like, hey, we're gettingup at 7 one morning to do some
chair yoga with Candy Whirly?
Our speaker Is that what youmean.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
No.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
No, OK, OK.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
They'll hire me for a conference as an opening or a
closing.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
OK.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Or an opening and a breakout you know how we do
breakouts, yeah.
And I teach.
It's a big conference, so Iteach them 15, 20 minutes of
chair yoga that they can takeback and do while they're
working.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
So you do this in a keynote setting.
You're teaching this yoga chairthing that's they're sitting in
chairs.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
They're sitting in chairs.
I've done it in keynotes.
I've done it in breakouts.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Wow, and then we love it.
That's so cool, especially as aclosing.
Well, we're in chairs right now.
I'm putting you on the spot.
Is there one move that we couldteach the audience that will
help them.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Absolutely.
Can they see us, can they seeyou?
They can really see our feet.
Is there anything you can do,sort of like you know waist up
that we could show them yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
All right, let's do it here we go.
If you're listening, you've gotto go to YouTube to check this
one out.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
So we're going to do a twist.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
A twist.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
all right, Because when we're sitting, we're like
this yeah, yeah, yeah, hunchedover typing.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
If you're listening, yes, yes, so we're just setting
straight up OK.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
And you're going to take your hands.
I hope they can see this.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
We're going to take our arms straight up in the air.
Ok, arms are coming straight up, straight up in the air.
Yep, like a touchdown symbol.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Now go to the right.
Go to the right and you'regoing to twist, look over that
right shoulder, ok.
Ok, looking over my rightshoulder, bring your arms back
up, take a deep breath in.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
As I turn, I'm bringing my arms back up, uh-huh
, and you're breathing in Deepbreath in.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
And your arms are straight over your head.
I'm just not doing it becausemy heart yes, I'm going straight
up.
Yes, here we go.
Here we go, because my ponchois coming up over my head.
I don't want to do it.
Ok, now you go to the left.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Go to the left with my arms straight out in front of
me.
Over your left shoulder OK.
Bring your arms straight backup, Straight back up.
Breathe in maybe.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
And back down.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
OK, all right, there is some breathing.
Do you want to do a quickbreathing?
Yeah, let's do some breathing,ok.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
So we can take.
It's called square breathing.
It's parasympathetic breathing.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
I've heard of the square breathing yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
And it's good for anxiety.
If people have anxiety, alittle stress.
That's why it's great foremotional intelligence.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
OK.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
So I usually have people close their eyes.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
We're not going to close our eyes.
All right, can I close my eyesAll?

Speaker 2 (38:07):
right, it's so good, I know All right.
So you're setting up straightYep, you're going to take a deep
breath in and I'm going tocount.
It's a three count Then youpause.
Then a three count down, ExhaleThen you pause.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
OK.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
So deep breath in One , two, three pause.
One exhale, open your mouth,one, two, three pause.
And I do that about see, I meanit's.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Is it weird that I feel wonderful right now?
It's already, I'm telling youit's working, because here's the
thing.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
When things get up, when this is what I talk about
emotional intelligence Devinwhen we get that upset and that
emotional, we stop breathing.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
So oxygen's not getting to our blood, blood's
not getting to our brain.
This is something you could doquickly.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yes, quickly, quickly , wow.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
So I haven't do that like three or four times.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Crazy.
It's just like yeah and you cansee the audience just like
releasing, I'm sure as they dothat and it's back to.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
I get finished.
Oh my gosh, your voice is so,and here's the hard part.
Here's the hard part.
You hear me and I'm like, hey,you what the cheerleader?

Speaker 1 (39:20):
And then when?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
they hire me for yoga .
I have to do it.
It's hard.
Oh, yes, I mean.
I do, you wear tie dye, I hadto, I should, and a little piece
there.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
I need it and it is.
It's hard as a speaker.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Just speaker to speaker it is hard to lower your
voice, oh sure.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Sure Calm down.
But so now they're saying oh mygosh, do you have a CD?
Do you have a CD?
I love your voice.
Can I tell you it's one of thevery first things I did 22 years
ago.
I made a guided meditation.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Really, do you still have it?
I have it and do you sell it tothe people who ask for a fan?

Speaker 2 (40:04):
What I want to do is and this kind of disk, because,
remember, I just startedteaching yoga.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Sure Sure.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
I want to do it downloadable.
Nobody has CDs in their house.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Right, right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, so how?

Speaker 2 (40:16):
funny is that that just happened.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
That is crazy.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Uh-huh, it's like oh by the way, I do have something
Well it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
I knew it was going to be fun with you.
I knew you were going to giveus some information.
I feel like we're getting morethan the cost of admission here.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
You know, it's like.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Candy is bringing it today.
Oh, my god, this is the recordone that went Well, I know,
because that's what your lifeand your career has been like.
In a good way, you're just likeare you a chameleon?
I'm a chameleon, ok.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Total chameleon.
I have a little bit of linebecause we're business owners,
so we have to have that line.
Sure, total chameleon.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, because I mean risk taker, flexible change.
I mean with COVID, like yousaid.
You know, think, shut down.
You're like, well, I'll write abook, I'll become a certified
yoga instructor.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
This is so cool.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
So then, yeah, what do you like to do then in your
free time?
Like, well, let's say, likeyou're not teaching yoga today,
you're not speaking, you're notwriting.
What's an ideal day, look likefor Candy.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
We live on 35 acres in a log cabin and we have a
lake.
And my husband just built adock last summer, and so I love
to walk and I love nature and Isit on my dock and just have

(41:40):
peace, and I do that everyWednesday.
Now, when the weather's nasty,we have a screened in porch.
That's what my husband didduring COVID he screened in our
back porch so we could be yearround.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Your husband sounds like a stud building all these
things.
I do not work with my hands, ohreally.
Oh, he can do anything.
He can do anything.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
So I take every Wednesday off.
Everybody knows Wednesday is myday off.
I try not to work.
Unless I have a client call, Itry not to work and it's just my
day for me to do things that Ilove to watch trash TV and just

(42:28):
enjoy nature.
And I have cats and we have adog now, and so I just that's
what I love, that's what I do.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Well, usually I think when I ask that question,
usually it's a hypotheticalquestion, Like, let's just say
you had a day to yourself andpeople are like, oh man, if I
only had that, you've baked itinto your weekly schedule.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
It's part of my schedule.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
How long have you been taking a day off?

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Probably, since, I would have to say since we've
moved to the country which hasbeen.
It's been seven years and it'smy day of no yoga, it's my day
of no travel, it's my day unless, again, unless I'm speaking,
but it's probably seven years.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah, in a way it's like you're Sabbath, you're just
turning everything offunplugging as much as possible
Totally Excuse me, while I pourmyself some more mud water.
Mudwatercom slash Devon.
So what did that do for yourmind in your life once you

(43:36):
started taking that break on aregular basis?
Did you see some kind ofdifference In your mood or
anything?
More peace, ok, more peace.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
I'm very spiritual.
It's a very prayerful day for metoo, and so just more peace,
because running a business itcan be so stressful.
And we're going, we're workingon future, we're working on now,
we're working on thank yous,and so I don't think people and

(44:09):
I feel like I help people andI'm starting to do that more in
emotional intelligence isteaching people how to give
themselves grace and how to givethemselves a little bit more
love, even if you just take ahalf a day, so it's lovely.

(44:30):
But I'm older and I say thatyou've still got young kids.
My kids are grown and gone.
Now I get to be Grammy.
And my daughter just had a newbaby.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Two weeks Congratulations.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Brando the last brando.
That's a cool name, brando theynamed him after the dads and
Pablo the dad, her fiance.
His dad's not alive, but theynamed it because my husband's
name's Bradley.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
And his dad is Fernando Nice Brando.
How cool is that the meaning?
And it's just a cool nameanyway.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
And you know, my daughter I've met.
Yeah, I have met her.
She did not want to have kidsand the last thing she said this
a week after, she said I can'tbelieve that I almost deprived
myself of this journey.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Wow, that's so great.
Yeah, what's it like being agrandma?
I mean, what's the best part?

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Heaven, you get to just play with them and fill
them up and love on them andspoil them and give them back.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Your mom's a dad or mom and dad Say the same thing,
exactly, exactly.
Well, ok, as we wind down,candy, is there anything like
any other big surprises?
You know things that likebecause you've had so many fun
facts and interesting thingsabout you.
Is there any?
And I'm sure you know, lateryou'll be like, oh, I could have
mentioned that, but is thereanything else you want to

(46:06):
surprise us with?
I don't have anything in mind,I really don't.
I'm just curious, like, whatelse could there be?
You know?

Speaker 2 (46:14):
You know what I would just love for people to,
because, like I said, I'm 61 andthe older you get, the more
stuff doesn't matter and and andI think, as I get older, it's
just I'm just looking, I'mseeing, I'm seeing more of the

(46:37):
blessings Again, why?
I take that that Wednesday offis to remind me of of our
blessing and and all of God'smiracles and I don't know.
I just feel like I'm just.
As you get older, you justbecome more at peace and I hope,
instead of people saying oh,I'm getting older, it's like I'm

(47:02):
getting older.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
This is yeah this is I'm.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
I'm living my best life right now.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Wow, that's amazing.
Yeah Well, it's so cool just tokind of get the the bird's eye
view of how you're, how you'veprogressed professionally,
personally, relationally.
Like you, you don't like.
You're kind of like you're justgoing to take what comes your
way and make the best of it,even with the challenges, right,
and then and then what's coolabout your career, too, is
you've been able to take thethings you've learned and just

(47:30):
give them freely to people,without forcing some kind of
message, which I've been guiltyof in the past.
I'm like, let me, I got toforce some message out of myself
.
You've just it's just come outof you in natural ways that that
really benefit people that arereally fun, which, in big part,
explains your success.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I see, and I've never thought of it like that, but it
does.
But does that make sense?
Do you see what I'm saying?
It does.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Like.
I don't feel like you forcedanything in your life.
It's just been a natural comingout from who you are.
So, yeah, thanks for joining ustoday.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
This has been a blessing.
Thank you, this was fun.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yeah, and you get to have lunch later with one of our
mutual friends right, yes, yeahso that's great, that's awesome
.
Well, tell her I said hi, sothat's good, okay, awesome.
Well, I have two finalquestions for you that are kind
of.
One puts you on the spot in agood way, in a fun way, it's not
, it's, it's, it's good.
I ask every guest the question.
But before we say, before wesay goodbye, we will link

(48:19):
Candy's book, the Amazon link,in the footnotes of the show.
So be sure and get, get onthere, get that book,
themudwatercom slash Dev, andget yourself some.
Just give it a try, see if ithelps you with your mood, your
energy, your sleep.
And also one last shout outtoday to, et cetera, shawnee for
providing us breakfast and thisplace to me.

(48:40):
So thank you for that.
Okay, candy, what's the bestway people can connect with you?

Speaker 2 (48:45):
I would go to my website because all of my
information is on my website.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
And that's just candy .
C-a-n-d-y, wurly,w-h-i-r-l-e-ycom.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Awesome, candywurlycom.
We'll put a link in there too,with that.
One thing I've always lovedabout your website and I noticed
this a long time ago is thatyou have some merch on there,
and what do you call it?
What's the name of the merchpage?
The candy store, the candystore, isn't that so cool.
I was like I want to change myname to Candy because that is so
dang clever Did you think ofthat?
Yes, yes, I did, I love it.

(49:17):
Okay, okay, Awesome.
Okay, here's the last question.
That was question one.
Here's question two.
Okay, just one piece of advicefor my daughters Anything you
have.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Oh, you're going to make me cry.
Watch your blessings and don'ttake life too serious.
And find your joy.
And my saying is do not settlefor what your heart is calling.
Don't settle for less than whatyour heart is calling you to

(49:54):
become.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Don't settle for less than what your heart is calling
you to become.
Wow, that sounds like you'velived that out.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
I have that's first-hand experience.
I absolutely have.
That's great, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Well, awesome.
Hey, this has been great, candy, thanks again.
Hey, please, please, comment.
Let us know what impacted youthe most.
What could you apply from today?
From Candy, whether it'sbreathing, twisting, reading, it
takes four to tango.
Counting your blessings, let usknow.
All right, so that's great.
Give us a rating, comments,share this with people that you

(50:28):
think need it.
And the way that I like to endthe episode is with the question
that I inspire my audience iswith, which is what else is
possible, which is the questionyou ask when you embrace the
possibility mindset.
So I always say what else inthe audience finishes is
possible.
So, we'll finish.
I'll say what else all you haveto say is possible.

(50:48):
So thank you so much forjoining us and remember, never
stop asking the question whatelse?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
is possible.
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