May 13, 2024 • 53 mins
When you lead with significance, success will follow naturally.
In this thought-provoking episode, Devin is joined by Lauren Schieffer, daughter of an Air Force Officer, keynote speaker and author whose “kernels” of wisdom have earned her international renown.
Tune in as they explore why it matters to choose impact over accolades, the value of respect and Lauren’s nine essentials to making all things possible.
If you have an influence on someone else - and don’t we all? - this is one you don’t want to miss. Listen now, available wherever you get your podcasts!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey everybody, welcome to the Possibility
Mindset podcast.
I'm Devin Henderson, I'm yourhost and I truly believe that
something greater is alwayspossible for you.
Well, hello, Lauren Schieffer.
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I am terrific Good.
It's great to have you heretoday.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, I can't do that without pointing at the camera.
This time I did do somethingdifferent.
I didn't snap before I pointed.
I usually snap and point, soI'm trying to like it's fun to
have sort of like a regularopening so people like, when
it's episodic, people are like,oh it's the music, I know it's
the opening that I know.
So you like to have itconsistent, but at the same time
(00:45):
sometimes it's fun to vary itup so you don't feel like a
robot or something.
Well, before we jump intointroducing exactly who my
friend Lauren is, let me justlet you know about Mudwater.
All right, lauren, do you wantto guess how many days off
coffee I am at this point?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
A week.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I like how I got the gasp from you, because I noticed
that one of the things you do,you drink in your words, too
much coffee, sometimes right,which I can relate.
That's why I've taken a break.
Are you ready for this?
Tell me, I'm 143 days offcoffee, so like 20 weeks plus
Wow, I know, I know I'm just.
The listeners know They've beenfollowing me.
(01:25):
They're on the edge of theirseats with is he finally going
to come back and say he wentback to coffee?
Uh, I'm just trying to see if Ican reset my body and, um, get
my energy back, you know, get myfocus back, get, start sleeping
well.
So, uh, mudwater is something.
Uh, I want to tell you aboutMudwatercom, slash Devin.
It just has a fraction of thecaffeine that coffee has, about
(01:46):
a third, and it's supposed toinduce alertness, not dependency
.
Improves mental capacity andfunction, physical stamina,
performance, immunity, overallhealth.
So it's mushroom-based.
It has lion's mane, cordyceps,reishi, chaga, turmeric, cacao
for taste.
I put honey in mine.
I drink it daily.
I forgot it today.
I was halfway here and I waslike forgot my mud water and I
(02:09):
never forget my mud water.
So, anyway, I'm on the journeyand I miss coffee, I miss the
smell of it, I miss the ritual,but mud water is sort of that
replacement to see if it's likeperhaps healthier.
So I endorse this kind of like.
I hate to say halfheartedly,not wholeheartedly, but since
I'm, I don't want to be likeit's the best Cause it's like
(02:31):
I'm still in it.
I'm still in trying as ajourney.
So I'm inviting the listenershey, do you want to go on this
journey with me?
Do you feel like coffee isowning you?
Do you feel like you're gettinglike the afternoon caffeine
crash?
Jump on board with me for thisexperimental journey and let's
see if it happens.
So you can try it.
Just go to the show notes.
The link is there.
It also helps support the show.
Mudwater that's mud.
W-t-r no vowels in water.
(02:52):
Mudwaterwithoutthevowelscom.
Slash Devin.
The code is Devin if you'reasked for it.
So there it is.
That's Mudwater.
I'm guessing, with being thecoffee drinker you are.
What are you thinking?
Is that all appeal to you?
Or do you feel like coffee isgood for you?
Maybe you don't even think it'sbad.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I don't know.
Well, no, there's no questionthat I have a caffeine addiction
and it started with soda.
Oh yeah, hey, all right.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Speaking of, and hold that, because I forgot to do it
last time.
I you said soda, how was thesoda here at, etc.
Oh, it's awesome, it's good,it's awesome.
Okay, thank you, etc.
For breakfast zach ate with ustoday.
We had.
It was like this whole fun.
It was, I feel, likethanksgiving breakfast wise.
Don't laugh like it is, it'snot true, um, but it was really
nice.
So thank you.
Excited for the space for thebreakfast.
(03:43):
Uh, for lauren's soda.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It was really nice, so, thank you, exota, for the
space for the breakfast for.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Lauren's soda.
It was excellent.
Yeah, so thank you.
Okay, so back to you and thesoda.
It started with soda, huh.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So when I was pregnant with my daughter.
Now, let's be honest, there's aconvenience store in the
southwest.
It's called Circle K and theyhave something called a Big Gulp
which is 44 ounces.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I thought Big Gulp was like exclusively a 7-Eleven
thing.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Well, at that time it was Circle.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
K.
Okay, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
In the desert Southwest that we were living.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Because isn't that dumb and dumb where he's like
hey guys, big Gulps, huh.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Well, see you later.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So I would stop on my way to work in the morning and
get a Big Gulp.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I would go out at lunch and get a Big Gulp, and I
grabbed one on my way home.
Okay 44 ounces times three.
What is that?
That's a lot of caffeine.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
You're asking the wrong guy.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That's a lot of caffeine and so.
So my doctor said I really needyou to cut back on caffeine.
And because I never do anything, halfway I told myself I had to
cut it out completely.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, I'm the same way.
Like Billy Joel, I always go toextremes.
Yes, right, yes.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So that was three weeks worth of just crushing
headaches.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Wow, the wise woman would have stayed off of
caffeine.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Mm-hmm, but by the time I got pregnant with my son,
I was back on the big gulps.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And I had to kick it again.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
The wise woman would have stayed off of it.
But the wise woman is notsitting across from you.
So and then you know, myhusband had always said we'd
been married for a long time andhe'd always say, well, you have
to drink coffee, everybodydrinks coffee.
I said I don't have to doanything.
No, he's like really you haveto drink coffee.
And I had a really dear friendHer name was Mary Beth, and she
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did what my husband could neverdo, and that was get me hooked
on coffee.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
But it was the sweet I thought you were going to say
you slapped him across the face.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
No, no, no no, no, no , it was the sweet fancy coffees
.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Ah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And so I've been drinking coffee ever since.
Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And it's kind of owned you somewhat.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
No, I mean I don't, it's not like oh, okay, I have
to have my coffee.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
No, I'm messing with you Again.
That's mudwatercom.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
slash Devin all right for you addicts out there, but
if I go, you know, till threeo'clock in the afternoon and I
haven't had a cup of coffee, myheadache will tell me so.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
That's really weird, because the first day that I
quit I felt really like sick tomy stomach that night and I
can't remember if I had aheadache or not, I really don't
remember.
But it was just one day, it wasnot three weeks.
So I grew up on pop.
You say soda, I say pop and um,and so yeah, and so then I
switched to coffee, likesomewhere in my young adult life
(06:41):
.
So I never was really likefully off that heavy dosage,
daily dosage of caffeine.
So like this is green tea, youknow.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So oh, because I was.
I was gonna make a snide remarkabout the fact you're drinking
yeah, it looks like I'm right,right.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, I know but it's herbal it's well.
Green tea, I don't think, istechnically herbal.
I'm not a connoisseur, but uh,it's about, I think, the same
amount of caffeine that you getin mud water, about 35
milligrams, where coffee is like100, right, so you have three
of these.
It's like one coffee and for meI was drinking like three, four
cups a day easily.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh, I don't do that no problem Really.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Like before gigs, like before speaking gigs, I'd
wake up early kind of, startgetting in the zone, drink my
first cup, and then they havecoffee down.
Drink my first cup, I want one.
Then they have coffee down atthe.
There's a coffee station, it'sfree.
You're like, oh, this is easy,and I just keep taking it
because it was just like, it wasjust fun.
I just liked having that warmcup of hot roasted beanage in my
hand.
I was like this is nice.
(07:38):
It was not like if I was like Ineed to wake up, maybe that was
like the first one or two cupsand then it was just like this
is fun to drink this.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, I drink it more for the flavor than anything
else.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yes, it's the warmth and the flavor yeah, that ritual
part of it, yeah, I don't eventhink about the caffeine jolt.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I mean, I'm sure I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, and I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I miss it if it's not there, but I love the flavor.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Which is weird because when, I was little.
It tasted like motor oil to me.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Oh, I know, I know, isn't that funny how that
switches over.
Yeah, this is the CoffeeAddicts podcast, in case you're
just tuning in.
Well, awesome.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Lauren?
And how much sweetener do youput in your coffee?
Don't even ask me, because Ihave people that raise their
eyebrows at me.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, let us know in the chat how often.
Oh wait, that's a virtual gig,all right.
Lauren Schieffer grew up in theAir Force.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Being uprooted and relocated every couple of years.
The lessons she learned fromthe Colonel in quotes and you'll
learn more about that havehelped her make smart decisions
and overcome adversity withhumility and a sense of humor,
of course.
Since stepping away fromcorporate America to work for
herself, she has spoken in sevencountries.
That's more than I've done too,so bam, but I am international,
(08:49):
all right, but she's spoken inseven countries too Associations
, organizations, federal, stateand local governments, as well
as Fortune 500 companies,helping them improve the
effectiveness of theircommunication, reduce
unnecessary conflict and helpthem lead Helping, lead them out
of drama.
I almost I read that earlier andI was like oh, that's cool.
And I almost said help, helpingthem lead out of a drama, which
(09:13):
sounds like you're leading froma place of drama, but you're
leading them out of drama.
So my wording had to choosethat very carefully and make
sure I read it word for word.
So I have daughters, so I'm allabout let's lead people out of
drama, right, mainly me.
I'm the biggest drama queen inour family.
(09:33):
Anyway, when she's not speaking, working with clients or
consuming way too much coffee,she loves adorning the back of
her husband's motorcycle andsinging Broadway show tunes.
All right, so here it is,lauren Schieffer.
So many questions have poppedup during our breakfast
conversation and out of this bio, and I feel like our
interactions have always justbeen hey, how you doing?
(09:54):
Hey, we're at NSA conventionsand there's not a lot of time to
sit down and get to know eachother.
So this is really fun to kindof like dive in a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
So I had the privilege of seeing a mutual
friend of ours recently that Ihadn't seen him forever.
Dorinda, dorinda, nichols, ohyeah, and.
And she threw her arms in theair and she said Fender fluff.
And she's the only one thatgets away with calling me that,
(10:23):
besides myself.
But I am, I am Fender Fluff,that's funny you are and you own
it oh.
I had T-shirts made.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Nice, I had T-shirts made.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The front says Fender Fluff and on the back it says I
make his bike look good oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
So tell me about these Broadway show tunes.
How did that start?
Is it constant from stop tofinish?
Is it just like you break outinto it and startle him and he
kind of shakes the bike likewhoa, she's doing the show tunes
thing?
How does that pop in there?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, it's not always simultaneous.
I'm not always on the bike whenI'm singing Broadway show tunes
.
Often I'm in the shower.
I spent a lot of my life in thetheater and doing musical
theater, musical comedy, and Idon't quite have the chops that
I used to.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Okay, because Put over the roar of a motorcycle or
the gentle water of a shower.
See, that's the great thing.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's the great thing about being on the back of
the motorcycle, because, forsomeone who is inherently a
control freak, uh-huh, yes, I am.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I own it, you're in good company today.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, it's the only time that I have the opportunity
to really just let go ofcontrol, because if a passenger
tries to control anything on amotorcycle, it's dangerous.
You have to just let go and letthe driver ride Wow.
So I have my helmet on and Ihave nothing to control, nothing
(11:51):
to do, and I just start singing.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
He probably doesn't even hear you.
I just realized that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Sometimes it depends on how fast we're going and
whether we have the mics hookedup.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Oh, okay, because we have mics in our helmet.
You do have a mic system.
All right, nice yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
But when we get to speed, sometimes it's like so
garbled, it's like yeah honey, Idon't know what you're saying.
Sitting on a porch swinglistening to the light rain.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You know, I don't know.
If you're ever like annoyedwith him, do you just turn your
mic off Like it's not working?
I can't Sorry.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
And you just turn it off is not a show tune.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Okay, all right, what's your favorite song?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It's it's an old carpenter song.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Okay, top of the world, okay, nice.
Do you know that?
No, give me a little bit of it.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I'm on the top of the world and looking down on
creation.
I'm.
The only explanation I can findIs the love.
Okay, that's enough.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, no, I recognize it.
I didn't recognize it by name,but yeah, I've heard that one.
Okay, great, wow, that'sawesome.
Another fun fact, because wewant to jump into something
about significance here in amoment, because that's kind of
where we're going with this.
But you told me right as we putthe headphones on and started
talking to the microphones thatyou were the last recorded voice
for something for the fordmotor company back in 84 to my
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knowledge and give me that voiceyour door is a jar and did that
go into?
like many cars, like I mean,you're too young to know that
there was a time when that waswhat you heard.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Please turn off your blinker.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Okay, wow.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
There was a time.
Now you get ding, ding, dingding ding, ding.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Okay, I see, I see Many of you are probably hearing
that voice and you're like ohmy gosh that's her.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Wow, did you do more voice talent than that?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I did a lot of voice talent.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
yeah, Did you really Wow, okay, that's crazy.
See, I did not know this aboutyou.
That's fun.
Lauren's actually from here inKansas City, from Bonner Springs
, which is really close toShawnee, where I live, and
Bonner is where Zach is from aswell.
Go Braves, yeah, all it is highschool mascot.
(14:15):
Shout out right, that's awesome.
Um, so so she's part of the nsakansas city family, the
national speakers association,our local chapter.
That's mainly our, our normal,our original connection.
Right, candy worley was on thepodcast a few months ago.
She's another part of thefamily and I was telling candy
that when I would go toconvention and we would always
have like an nsa kansas citysort of like a dinner.
It really fun.
It felt like this is my family.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
It just I don't know.
It was always kind of like okay, these are like the people that
I just feel safe andcomfortable around, like, oh,
familiar people amidst all thesepeople that I, you know, I
hardly know.
So it was really nice.
So it's kind of like havingfamily back.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, back here.
So that's great, and one of mybest stories about an NSA
convention is a story about you.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Oh, really, yeah, no way, it's embarrassing for you.
Oh, it's embarrassing for me.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh yeah, okay, cool yeah because my very first
convention, which we now callInfluence right.
Nobody told me that there wasthis big gala event at the end
and that it was a dress up.
You know we call it NSA, promright.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Right, right right.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I didn't know that, and so I hadn't come prepared,
so I had to throw somethingtogether.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah and.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I pulled all my hair up and I, you know, and I had
flowers in and I walked in andyou-.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I remember exactly what I said you started to walk
past me and I said Devin, andyou said oh, I didn't recognize
you.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You look good, that's what he said and I said I'm not
quite sure how to take that.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, yeah, I was like that was like two thoughts
that got thrown together andmade it sound very bad, like, oh
, typically yes, but now it's,you know, yeah, it was like two
different thoughts that, whenthrown together, that did not
come across well.
So I think the next time I sawyou I was like, let me try this.
So hey, you look great, yeah,and I know exactly who you are.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
From the moment I walked into the room.
Lauren, that's awesome.
Okay, so let's jump in now.
Tell me the difference betweensignificance and success.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Most of us are programmed from a very young age
to chase success.
Success is about me.
It's about how much money Imake and what my title is and
what my accolades are and wheremy parking spot is.
There's nothing wrong withsuccess.
(16:44):
There's nothing wrong withmaking good money for what you
do, and I don't want to bemisunderstood about that.
But significance is different.
Significance has nothingwhatsoever to do with how much
money I have or make.
It's about how many lives Itouch and the manner in which I
choose to impact them.
(17:04):
Because how we impact others isa choice, and the colonel
always said anyone can besuccessful, kiddo.
Choose to be significant.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
So from a very young age, I was taught to chase
significance instead.
That resonates with me deeply,right, because you know we're in
the same industry no-transcript, so many listeners and I want
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that.
But it's about what?
What significance am I havingfor in people's lives?
You know so when they listen tothis, when they listen to a
guest like you, it's not aboutwell, let me go see how many
people listen to that a weekfrom now, or you know how many
people downloaded it.
It's like how has how is mebringing Lauren on here changed,
changed the people and made asignificant difference in their
(18:23):
lives, right?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
So it's not about numbers and success.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
It's just about, hey, we're improving the quality of
people's life and work.
But when I get caught up in thesuccess race then it is about
numbers, money, all that kind ofstuff and it's superficial, it
doesn't bring lasting joy.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But the significance does.
Here's the thing I believe thatwhen we focus on significance
and truly that's where we'releading from our heart and our
soul Success follows.
It follows naturally.
And I was having a conversationwith some colleagues the other
day and she has the opportunityto have a really amazing
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exposure nationally.
And I just kind of saidoffhandedly well, you know, I'm
never going to be a nationalmedia sensation, but I serve a
lot of people from thebackground and I had not meant
that as disparaging to myself.
And, of course, because we'rein the industry, we're in
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they're like now.
Don't say that you know youcould blow up tomorrow and be a
national name.
I'm not fooling myself.
You know the people that I'mintended to touch I will touch
and nothing can change that andnothing can stop that, and I
don't have to be a national nameto do it.
(19:56):
But when I focus onsignificance, success naturally
follows.
When anyone focuses onsignificance, success naturally
follows.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Well, you're a professional speaker, you've
been doing it a while and you'rea master storyteller.
So I know you get on stage andright now this is resonating, it
seems like, with your clients,with your audiences this concept
of significance first, and thensuccess follows.
So how are you doing that fromthe stage and how can you?
Even today, I'm putting you onthe spot Is there a story you'd
like to share, whether it's fromyour keynote or something that
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the listeners could go?
Oh, because for me, like I waslike, it resonates deeply.
Maybe someone else, maybe theyneed a story or something to you
know.
Is there I know I'm putting youon the spot big time Well, and
maybe not a story maybe justgoing a little deeper with how
Professional speakers alwayshave a story, yeah, ready.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
The question is, how can I narrow it down?
So my father the colonel had ahabit of saying he would stop in
the middle of a sentence and hewould say pay attention, kid.
This is a road sign in yourlife.
You need to decide if you'regoing to follow it or not.
So one of the stories that Itell from stage is about the
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fact that my because my fatherwas a handyman and a mechanic
our cars were always breakingdown.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Always.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And long before cell phones.
And you know, roadside service.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And Ford voices in your car saying hey, your door
is ajar my father would stop tohelp every time because people
had stopped to help us.
At that point in history, whenyou're stranded on the side of
the road, you know dad wouldpull out his magic toolbox.
But if it was something thatthe magic toolbox couldn't fix,
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we'd have to wait until someonestopped that the magic toolbox
couldn't fix.
We'd have to wait till someonestopped, and so my father
stopped to help it was part ofthe DNA of our family and I
remember one time we stopped tohelp a family broken down on the
side of the road outside ofQuemado, new Mexico.
Now, just in case you don'tknow, Okay, I don't.
(22:12):
Quemado.
New Mexico is halfway betweenGod's nowhere and never heard of
it.
New, Mexico.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Oh, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
The family was Hispanic and spoke very little
English.
They had three small childrenand one very much on the way.
And my father had beenstationed in uh at Torajone,
first base outside of um Madrid,so he had a little bit of
Spanish.
So I watched dad pull out hismagic toolbox Between halting
(22:49):
English, halting Spanish andsign language.
Dad and the stranded fatherwent to work.
Now, my sister and I were alltoo familiar with this, so we
pulled out our box of toys and abag of snacks, sat down with
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the three kids to keep themcompany.
Morning turned into afternoonand still they tinkered, still
they toyed.
Afternoon turned into lateafternoon and the father got
into the car to try one moretime and the engine sputtered
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and then roared to life.
All right and the colonelbellowed in victory and he was
covered in grease from ear toear and the stranded mother
started to cry and all of thekids ran over and threw their
arms around my father's legs.
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And the dad reached a greasyhand and he said Vaya con Dios,
mi amigo.
And as we watched them driveoff into the sunset, dad started
to shake.
He said Pay attention, kid,this is a road sign.
We were significant today andI've carried that with me.
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You know, we gave up a day, afull day, standing on the side
of the road.
But without us, who knows whowould have stopped for that
family?
Because at that time in historypeople who didn't speak.
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English in.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
America were less common.
Wow, yeah, that is significance.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Having significance.
That's amazing.
So tell me more.
Yeah, then, thank you for that.
And I think, with the listeners, I mean it's kind of like they
can draw their own conclusionfrom that, right?
Well, what does that mean forme, you know, it's like how can
I give up a day, give up a fewhours, give up five minutes,
right?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, it doesn't have to be a day To work for
significance, right?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Sometimes it might be , but sometimes it's just about
paying attention and going outof your way to open the door for
someone or say hi, it can bethat small to have a moment of
significance, right.
So when you start, I'm guessingyou would agree that if they
start thinking with asignificance mindset in their
day-to-day, they're just goingto impact their family, their
lives, their clients, theircustomers, everyone they serve,
their community in such biggerways and you start seeing things
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that you'd never seen before,because you're watching for it
right, watching for moments ofwhere can I have significance?
Oh, I love that.
That's great.
So this sounds like this is anidea that came from the colonel,
your father, yeah, so tell memore about the colonel, because
this has become not just a partof who you are.
This is like part of your brandnow, your speaking brand, and
it's where you've learned a lotof your lessons, where you've
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learned a lot of your lessons.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
It is my brand, and it wasn't originally, though.
Okay.
So my father was a career AirForce officer, okay, and he was
an imposing figure.
He stood six feet six and ahalf inches tall.
He was 285 pounds on his veryleanest day, wow, and he had a
personality that entered theroom five minutes before he did.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
That's a big man.
I didn't know the Colonel wasthat ginormous.
He was a big man.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And so much of what I know, I believe I teach.
I either learned directly fromthe Colonel or I learned from
people I had the privilege ofknowing and learning from
because of who he was and whathe did for the Air Force.
(26:41):
Just a couple of examples myfather's best friend or one of
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my father's dear friends, wasshot down over Laos and ended up
being in the Hanoi Hilton withJohn McCain.
They came home on the sametransport, which is how my of
knowing John McCain and Iactually worked on his very
first campaign forrepresentative for Arizona.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Oh really, so that's how I got to know him.
Wasn't John McCain also in thesame POW camp in Vietnam as
Charlie Plum?
Captain Charlie Plum, yes, okay, yes, all right.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah.
So also when I was in juniorhigh school, my father was the
division chief for the flightdynamics laboratory at
Wright-Patterson and they had atake your child to work day,
yeah.
So I went with daddy to workNice and there was a visiting
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officer there who was visitingto consult with my father from
the Washington School of War.
I was not aware that there wasa Washington School of War.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
You didn't know that, right, we talk about it like
all the time, all the time.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, so he happened to be there to consult with my
father on the same day that Ihappened to be there.
So I sat at lunch with Daddy onone side and on the other was,
at that point, lieutenantColonel Colin Powell.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
And he asked me questions about me and my life
and what I enjoyed and what Iloved, and he listened like it
really mattered to him and talkabout being significant and
making someone, a little girl,feel significant and I was
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certain certain we were going tobe best friends for life.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Mm-hmm, you and Colin yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I had the privilege.
Of course, I never had theopportunity to be in his
presence again, okay, butbecause we were besties, I
followed everything about himTotally.
And read everything he's everwritten and have learned from
him.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Now I've learned from other people as well.
You can't study leadership andnot learn from John C Maxwell.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
And I've learned a lot from Mary Kay Ash from the
years that I spent in Mary Kay,but it started with dad and the
book series oh segue.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, here we go, let's jump into the book.
By the way, those are someserious names you just dropped
McCain, powell.
I'm excited to see who else isgoing to pop up here Elton John.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yes, I learned leadership lessons.
And then Brad Pitt popped inand was like let me tell you
about significance.
I learned the Broadway showtunes from Elton.
Okay the book, yeah the bookseries.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Let's talk about the new, because you have a new book
.
I do, but before we do that,okay, you have a thousand books.
I think you've written right, Iknow Something like that.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
The new one is number four, okay, Four, number two
and number three are a calledKernels of Wisdom.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
And every day, on all of my social media channels and
everything I drop, a dailyKernel of Wisdom.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
That's such a brilliant name.
Thank you, c-o-l-o-n-e-l.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Kernel of Wisdom.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yes, that's so great.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I love wordplay like that.
I'm a sucker for it.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
You know, and when the brand came together, it all
fell in place like that.
I was like this is perfect.
It's entirely who I am.
Oh, totally as a human being.
That's great.
So, Colonels of Wisdom, the twobooks are quotes from my dad.
Okay, and then I flesh it out.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
The titles of the books are quotes from your dad.
Is that what you?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
mean oh, the whole book, the whole book, oh, the
whole book.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Wow, that's a lot of quotes to fill up a book.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Well, each book has 52.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And I did that intentionally.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Still a lot.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
So that you could, if you chose, use it as a study
once a week for a year.
So there's a quote from my dadand then I flesh it out.
What's the story behind thequote?
What did it mean to me?
What might it mean to you andyour business?
Volume one is on leadership andvolume two is on significance.
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Volume three coming soon willbe on accountability and
personal ownership.
Nice, so I quote my dad all thetime.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Which makes me wonder is every colonel this wise?
You know what I mean that theycould basically have someone
write a book off the things theysay?
I mean, I know he's a militarycolonel.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
He was a very human human being.
Lots of people are like oh,your father was amazing.
Yes, he was amazing, he was agreat, he was a human being.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
But enough of what was really good about him stuck
with me.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
So and the two that I that have defined who I am as a
human being, the two quotes isthe significance quote Anyone
can be successful.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Choose to be significant, and the other one
has forged my belief in treatingall people with respect.
Whether or not I like what youthink, say or do, I don't have
to respect you.
I do have to treat you withrespect, because dad used to say
you don't have to respecteveryone.
Lauren Ann, you have no rightto disrespect anyone young lady.
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Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Do you think that your fatheractively knew he was imparting
this wisdom?
In a way that was going to growyour character.
It was just like what came outof him.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I think growing our character was important to him.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
He had no idea that I would take it and blossom with
it.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
As a matter of fact, I think, in hindsight, I think
he would be just a littleembarrassed by the way I have
grown.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Put that on display.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah, I want to say the way I've used him Right,
right, right.
Yeah, He'd have been like oh,this is ridiculous, Lauren Ann.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
But ultimately I would imagine now that him,
knowing the impact that it'shaving on people it's having
which is why you're doing sowell with speaking and writing
that it's like I think if he sawthe significance it was making,
he would probably change hismind and say oh yeah, that's
good.
I'm glad you're using it.
You know, I'm glad it's makinga difference for people, because
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that's the kind of person hewas.
He would like that that'shappening.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, you know.
So that's great.
He liked making a differencefor people.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, way to take it and run with it.
That's amazing.
You know that you just have allthis.
I think A lot of us dosometimes have more wisdom
that's been imparted to us orlife experiences that we don't
know.
We can use this to leverage ourrelationships and help other
people, or you can just useourselves.
We forget the awesome thingswe've learned, so that's good.
Anything else about the newbook?
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The new book Do you want totell us?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah yeah, this one came out not quite a year ago.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
And it is based on my nine essentials of significant
leadership, which is theplatform that I have.
I've taken everything that I'veever taught about leadership
and steeped it into nine coreessentials that are a 40,000
foot view of significantleadership.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
And my experience has shown me, Is that purpose?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
the Air Force thing, the look down on it, is that
purposeful?
I'm just curious because I knowhow you're clever, so I'm
thinking the 40,000 foot view,you know.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Well boy, I wish I could say yes it is now.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It is now, it is now.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
No, it's just that some people will look at the
nine essentials and say, well,that's pretty simple.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
And it could be.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
But my experience has shown me that the day-to-day
deliverables of leadership theseare going to be increased
productivity, profitability,increased customer service,
market share, employeeengagement, reduced attrition.
All of those will fall in line,naturally, if the leader
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functions.
Everything they do through thelens of the nine essentials,
okay, through the lens of thenine essentials, okay, and so
the book is basically my nineessentials in a book form.
So part one of, and the otherthing that I love about this
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book is the title and the latestbook is called Help Others Grow
First.
How Smart Leaders Attract andRetain Great Employees.
And that came about because Ihave a colleague in the NSA
circle.
And during one of his sessionsat Winter Conference he
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challenged the audience todecide what we wanted written on
our epitaph and you know, hegave us like 10 minutes to
figure it out and I didn't needthe 10 minutes because I knew
what it was immediately.
And that was help others growfirst, because when we are
significant, our success follows, so if I'm helping others, and
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that concept is not original.
I think it was Zig Ziglar thatsaid if you help enough people
achieve what you want out oflife, you will achieve what you
want out of life.
So that's the title of the bookHelp Others Grow First.
How Smart Leaders Attract andRetain Great Employees.
So part one highlights theproblem of the revolving door
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syndrome that is happeningpretty consistently since the
pandemic.
Part two is the nine essentialsand how they relate to fixing
that problem.
And then part three is a casestudy of a corporation that I
have worked for that shallrename nameless, because my
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consulting clients always remainnameless.
But the nine essentials areworking for him.
I'm working well for him.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, nice.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
And so that's what that book is.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
And would it make sense now to give us the nine
essentials Like, is it too muchto?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
just— oh, what you want to know what they are.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
No, yeah, I mean, do you just—I mean I'm like, oh,
let's hear them, let's know whatthey are.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, no, they're actually very simple, very
simple, okay, Essential numberone is understand your own value
.
Okay, I cannot treat otherpeople with respect if I don't
respect myself.
Number two is treat all peoplewith respect.
I don't have to respect you.
There's a difference betweenrespect for and respect to, so
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respect to all people.
Treat all people with respect.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Number three is act with integrity at all times.
Number four is open your mindto new possibilities.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
And this is where we are the Possibility Mindset
Podcast.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
There you go, here it is, we're on brand Nice.
A closed mind cannot grow and aclosed mind cannot lead, and a
closed mind cannot lead.
Number five cast a vision.
But for significant leaders,because casting a vision is kind
of leadership 101 stuff.
But for significant leaders itgoes so much deeper than that,
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Because I can create a visionfor the company, but if it's not
resonating with people who I'mleading in that company, it's a
flat vision.
So a significant leader has tofigure out what that vision is
going to look like for eachindividual person.
What's it going to look like,feel like, smell like, be like
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when we together get where we'regoing?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I like that.
Why does it matter to you?
What's the name of that one?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Cast a vision.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Cast a vision.
That's good.
That's number five, I like thatbecause everyone is different,
right?
It's got to be almost likecustomized to each person.
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Essential number six communicate respectfully, and
respectful communication is ahigher standard than assertive
communication.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Okay, say that one more time Assertive.
And the other one wasRespectful, respectful.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
What's the difference ?
So I again.
My experience has shown me thatrespectful communication, by
its very nature, is assertive.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Okay, not all assertive communication is A
calm.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
nature is assertive.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Okay, not all assertive communication is A
calm, healthy assertive right?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yes, yeah, but not all assertive communication is
necessarily respectful.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
So one of the things that is the core to what I teach
is our objective ascommunicators.
My objective as a communicatoris, first, all people feel safe
and treated with respect in mypresence.
So that's physically safe,emotionally safe, intellectually
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safe and treated with respectin my presence.
Because if I don't feel safe orI feel disrespected, I'm not
really anxious to have aconversation with you.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
So that's got to be number one.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Number two.
I can see why this helpssupport that whole how smart
leaders attract and retain greatemployees.
This communication, part ofit's huge, it's huge Right.
It's the first thing they knowis how do they communicate here?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, so if the nine essentials were to be like in a
circle, it's like the core.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Sure Number six is the core Totally.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I'm feeling that so all people feel safe and treated
with respect in my presencewhile I stand my own ground and.
I get my message across.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
And it's a little backward from the way most
people teach communication.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Because most people well-beloved and respected
colleagues will tell you thatthe most important thing is to
be clear to be understood.
I've encountered a great manypeople that are very clear in
their communication and theyleave dead bodies behind them as
they do business.
That's why I have to approachit from the way I do so.
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Number six communicaterespectfully, yeah.
Number seven lead by example.
Again, seemingly leadership 101material.
There are three ways to lead,three and only three.
By example day everywhere andall things.
Because your employees, yourteam, is watching you all the
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time.
They're watching you when theyrun into you in the grocery
store to see how you're treatingthe cashier or the bus person
at the restaurant.
They're watching you to seewhere that candy wrapper drops
out of your hand Is it on thesidewalk or is it in?
the rubbish bin.
They're watching you all thetime.
You have to lead by example.
It's an incredibly.
(42:26):
When you really think about it,it's an incredibly high
standard, oh yeah, I think aboutthat all the time.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
I think about even in my home.
I don't always know whenthere's a kid in the next room,
you know, and so it's like, oh,and I hate that.
That motivates Because there's.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
In your home there's always a kid in the next room.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I know there's always someone somewhere, but I would
hope that my faith would be thething that really gives me the
best motivator for being on mybest behavior and living in a
way of integrity all the time.
But you know I'm human the time.
But you know I'm human, I'msinful, I have thoughts and I'll
say things, and things thataren't you know necessarily
always things I'm proud of youknow.
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So, like I always think, okay,who's watching?
There's cameras, so be careful,there's kids.
Or when you're giving a keynoteand you're in a hotel where all
the other attendees are, okay,best behavior.
And it's like man, I want to goback further and think always,
even when I'm alone, what am Ithinking, what am I saying to
myself out loud, what are mythoughts, so that I don't have
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to worry about who's watching,because that's who I am.
So then it's kind of like thatIf you just are a person of
integrity, then you will lead byexample, because it's just
going to come out of you.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
And for us and, I believe, for significant leaders
.
But I'm not because you and Iare both people of faith and so
to say, there's no one watching.
Well, there's always someonewatching.
And even if someone doesn'tbelieve in a higher power as we
do, their own, subconscious iswatching.
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There's always someone watching.
So lead by example at all times.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Number where am I?
Eight?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Number eight is celebrate the results of others.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Significant leaders do not look for accolades.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
They look to give accolades.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Wow, which is one big way to help others grow first,
right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
And number nine is work for your replacement.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
As leaders.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Our number one responsibility is to replace
ourselves, and that's wheresignificant leadership varies
from servant leadership.
Servant leadership is atremendous standard, but, at its
heart, servant leadershipdoesn't ask for anything in
return, which is noble.
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Significant leadership does.
Significant leadership asks,and more so expects, that this
that I breathe into you, youwill take and breathe into
others.
I am replacing myself withother significant leaders, who
will replace themselves withsignificant leaders and before
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we know it, like ripples in apond, the world is populated
with significant leaders.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Pay it forward.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yep, work for your replacement.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Oh, that's so great.
I love this.
This is all.
I can see why your audience isand why your buyers are going.
Our people need this.
I mean, this can completelytransform a culture.
Right, by the way, if you'reone of those people out there
looking for speakers, now youknow why people use Lauren, so,
of course, her website andeverything will be linked in the
show notes.
Check her out, give her a call,bring her in, because these are
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the lessons that she teaches.
Significance is her hottesttopic right now.
Who doesn't want to attract andretain greater quality talent
these days Harder now than it'sever been?
And you can help them with that.
I will tell you that as westart to close here.
Lauren, just the title of yourbook, just that first part Help
Others Grow First resonates withme deeply.
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I just shared this with someoneover coffee two days ago.
There's a verse, a Bible verse,something about loving your
enemies and pray for those whopersecute you.
Well, my competitors are not myenemies, but if I were to apply
that whole love others and prayfor them then I would be doing
that for my competitors, andwhere I'm going with this is
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like I used to be afraid of myclients knowing about my
competitors, like, don't knowabout them because you want to
hire only me.
You know I can talk aboutanything and next year bring me
back and I'll think of somethingelse to talk about, because I
want your money and I want tokeep getting booked and I didn't
want them to.
This was true when I was amagician and when I became a
speaker.
This is kind of like a when Ilacked maturity and didn't
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understand about helping othersgrow first, and what I've
learned over time is it's thatwhole concept of light someone
else's candle.
It takes nothing away fromyours.
And if I start to champion youand Joel Goldberg and Cam
Awesome and Mark Mayfield all ofour NSA friends that are
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speakers if I start to championthem, pray for them, and then
it's kind of like that, then I'mhaving significance because I'm
helping them.
I'm connecting people to peoplewho need them.
It's like, hey, go to Lauren,she talks about this.
I'm connecting people to peoplewho need them.
You know it's like, hey, go toLauren, she talks about this.
I don't necessarily talkspecifically about these.
You know specifics ofsignificance and she does, and
so for me, the podcast has beena healthy way for me to like
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champion other people and getout of the way of myself and not
worry about Devin Devin.
Devin Devin you know, and sothat's why your book I'm like
but I'm growing.
There's still sometimes thatfear factor in me that wants to
protect my brand and my businessand my checkbook, and you know
what I mean.
But it's like when I releasethat and just give it over to
God and pray for people andchampion them.
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Like this, like your book talksabout, I live more free, I'm
living with more fulfillment,more joy, and guess what?
I can feel that I'm living withmore significance.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, and that growth it comes with time, because I
used to be exactly the same way,and it also comes with
hyper-focus on knowing who youare, what your strengths are and
and what, um I present.
That is different and betterthan anyone else.
(48:23):
And and you know we weretalking about that over
breakfast Um and I've.
I've gotten to a point and thishas come out of my mouth a
couple of times.
The first time it was like, butnow I'm much more comfortable
with it and I've said to clientsso let's talk about leadership
training for your emergingleaders.
(48:45):
If you are looking for someonefor leadership training, for
someone to guide you through thestrategic path of where your
company is going over the nextfive to seven years, I know
somebody who does that that'sbetter than I am and I will
refer you.
If, in your mind, leadershiptraining is someone to walk you
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through where to move thefinancial pieces on your puzzle
for best sustainability andprofit, I know somebody that's
better at that than I am and Ican refer you.
But if you're looking forsomeone to train your leaders on
how to relate to, communicateand inspire the people they lead
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for a greater corporate culture, boy, I think there are very
few people that are better atthat than I am, and it took me a
while to be able to say that,but I sincerely believe that.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
And that's about knowing each other's strengths.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
For sure yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
And referring the best possible opportunity to my
clients.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
For sure, awesome.
Can they get your book throughthe website?
They can, okay, awesome.
So that's the newest book.
Help Others Grow First.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
They can get all of them.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Again, all of them on there.
You can do the whole saga, thewhole Lauren Schieffer saga.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
And they're also available on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Okay, get them on Amazon too.
Okay, perfect, okay, awesome,that's so great, hey, thanks for
being here today, thank you forhaving me.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
This has been so much fun.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah, I do have one ultimate last question for you
that we'll get to in one second.
First, let's just thankEtcetera one more time, woohoo.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Great food For being amazing.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
I was going to see if their logo was on.
It's on neither one of our cups, that's okay.
Thank you, etcetera, shawnee,for the breakfast and for the
space, and, and also remembermudwatercom, slash dev.
And if you want to join me onthis mudwater journey of no
coffee and seeing if lesscaffeine can significantly
improve the quality of your life, all right.
(50:45):
Last question you ready for it?
I think you're the perfectperson to ask this to.
I ask it to every guest.
Just, could you please give onepiece of advice to my daughters
?
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Yeah, don't worry about what other people think of
you, because what other peoplethink of you is really none of
your business.
You need to walk in who you areas a human being, do yourself.
You need to walk in who you areas a human being.
(51:22):
Do yourself and your parentsand your Lord proud.
When my kids were littleanytime I dropped them off
somewhere and they hated it.
But I would say make goodchoices and remember whose child
(51:42):
you are.
And I had someone say to meonce oh, because you don't want
her to make you look bad.
I said it's not about me at all.
She's a child of the king.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
She's a child of the king.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
So if your daughters make good choices and remember
whose child they are, then theywon't have to worry about what
other people say about them, andthey'll be fine, that's great,
thank you.
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
I really love the part about don't worry what
other people think about you.
That's none of your business,it's none of your business.
That's huge, because I'm a veryvain, prideful person who even
in my early to mid-40s still isconsumed with what people think
of me, and I think that's partof the entertainer in me, oh the
(52:34):
fact that I say it doesn't meanI've mastered it and so I'm
like, wow, that hits me just ashard as it could my kids right
now.
That's none of my business,don't worry about what they
think about me.
That doesn't mean it's like Idon't care about nothing.
You know I'm going to be rude.
That's not the whole motivation.
It's just like remember whosechild you are.
If you remember that, then theycan think what they want.
It's none of your business.
That's empowering.
Thank you for that.
(52:55):
That's great.
You're welcome.
Okay, awesome.
We're going to wrap it up nowwith the phrase that is a
question you always ask when youembrace the possibility mindset
, which is what else is possible?
So we're going to team up andask it.
I'm going to say what else yousay is possible Sound good?
Okay, all right, and rememberto never, ever stop asking the
(53:15):
question what else is possible?
See you next time.
Hey everybody, welcome to the Possibility
Mindset podcast.
I'm Devin Henderson, I'm yourhost and I truly believe that
something greater is alwayspossible for you.
Well, hello, Lauren Schieffer.
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I am terrific Good.
It's great to have you heretoday.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, I can't do that without pointing at the camera.
This time I did do somethingdifferent.
I didn't snap before I pointed.
I usually snap and point, soI'm trying to like it's fun to
have sort of like a regularopening so people like, when
it's episodic, people are like,oh it's the music, I know it's
the opening that I know.
So you like to have itconsistent, but at the same time
(00:45):
sometimes it's fun to vary itup so you don't feel like a
robot or something.
Well, before we jump intointroducing exactly who my
friend Lauren is, let me justlet you know about Mudwater.
All right, lauren, do you wantto guess how many days off
coffee I am at this point?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
A week.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I like how I got the gasp from you, because I noticed
that one of the things you do,you drink in your words, too
much coffee, sometimes right,which I can relate.
That's why I've taken a break.
Are you ready for this?
Tell me, I'm 143 days offcoffee, so like 20 weeks plus
Wow, I know, I know I'm just.
The listeners know They've beenfollowing me.
(01:25):
They're on the edge of theirseats with is he finally going
to come back and say he wentback to coffee?
Uh, I'm just trying to see if Ican reset my body and, um, get
my energy back, you know, get myfocus back, get, start sleeping
well.
So, uh, mudwater is something.
Uh, I want to tell you aboutMudwatercom, slash Devin.
It just has a fraction of thecaffeine that coffee has, about
(01:46):
a third, and it's supposed toinduce alertness, not dependency
.
Improves mental capacity andfunction, physical stamina,
performance, immunity, overallhealth.
So it's mushroom-based.
It has lion's mane, cordyceps,reishi, chaga, turmeric, cacao
for taste.
I put honey in mine.
I drink it daily.
I forgot it today.
I was halfway here and I waslike forgot my mud water and I
(02:09):
never forget my mud water.
So, anyway, I'm on the journeyand I miss coffee, I miss the
smell of it, I miss the ritual,but mud water is sort of that
replacement to see if it's likeperhaps healthier.
So I endorse this kind of like.
I hate to say halfheartedly,not wholeheartedly, but since
I'm, I don't want to be likeit's the best Cause it's like
(02:31):
I'm still in it.
I'm still in trying as ajourney.
So I'm inviting the listenershey, do you want to go on this
journey with me?
Do you feel like coffee isowning you?
Do you feel like you're gettinglike the afternoon caffeine
crash?
Jump on board with me for thisexperimental journey and let's
see if it happens.
So you can try it.
Just go to the show notes.
The link is there.
It also helps support the show.
Mudwater that's mud.
W-t-r no vowels in water.
(02:52):
Mudwaterwithoutthevowelscom.
Slash Devin.
The code is Devin if you'reasked for it.
So there it is.
That's Mudwater.
I'm guessing, with being thecoffee drinker you are.
What are you thinking?
Is that all appeal to you?
Or do you feel like coffee isgood for you?
Maybe you don't even think it'sbad.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I don't know.
Well, no, there's no questionthat I have a caffeine addiction
and it started with soda.
Oh yeah, hey, all right.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Speaking of, and hold that, because I forgot to do it
last time.
I you said soda, how was thesoda here at, etc.
Oh, it's awesome, it's good,it's awesome.
Okay, thank you, etc.
For breakfast zach ate with ustoday.
We had.
It was like this whole fun.
It was, I feel, likethanksgiving breakfast wise.
Don't laugh like it is, it'snot true, um, but it was really
nice.
So thank you.
Excited for the space for thebreakfast.
(03:43):
Uh, for lauren's soda.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It was really nice, so, thank you, exota, for the
space for the breakfast for.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Lauren's soda.
It was excellent.
Yeah, so thank you.
Okay, so back to you and thesoda.
It started with soda, huh.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So when I was pregnant with my daughter.
Now, let's be honest, there's aconvenience store in the
southwest.
It's called Circle K and theyhave something called a Big Gulp
which is 44 ounces.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I thought Big Gulp was like exclusively a 7-Eleven
thing.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Well, at that time it was Circle.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
K.
Okay, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
In the desert Southwest that we were living.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Because isn't that dumb and dumb where he's like
hey guys, big Gulps, huh.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Well, see you later.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So I would stop on my way to work in the morning and
get a Big Gulp.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I would go out at lunch and get a Big Gulp, and I
grabbed one on my way home.
Okay 44 ounces times three.
What is that?
That's a lot of caffeine.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
You're asking the wrong guy.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That's a lot of caffeine and so.
So my doctor said I really needyou to cut back on caffeine.
And because I never do anything, halfway I told myself I had to
cut it out completely.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, I'm the same way.
Like Billy Joel, I always go toextremes.
Yes, right, yes.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So that was three weeks worth of just crushing
headaches.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Wow, the wise woman would have stayed off of
caffeine.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Mm-hmm, but by the time I got pregnant with my son,
I was back on the big gulps.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And I had to kick it again.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
The wise woman would have stayed off of it.
But the wise woman is notsitting across from you.
So and then you know, myhusband had always said we'd
been married for a long time andhe'd always say, well, you have
to drink coffee, everybodydrinks coffee.
I said I don't have to doanything.
No, he's like really you haveto drink coffee.
And I had a really dear friendHer name was Mary Beth, and she
(05:40):
did what my husband could neverdo, and that was get me hooked
on coffee.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
But it was the sweet I thought you were going to say
you slapped him across the face.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
No, no, no no, no, no , it was the sweet fancy coffees
.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Ah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And so I've been drinking coffee ever since.
Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And it's kind of owned you somewhat.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
No, I mean I don't, it's not like oh, okay, I have
to have my coffee.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
No, I'm messing with you Again.
That's mudwatercom.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
slash Devin all right for you addicts out there, but
if I go, you know, till threeo'clock in the afternoon and I
haven't had a cup of coffee, myheadache will tell me so.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
That's really weird, because the first day that I
quit I felt really like sick tomy stomach that night and I
can't remember if I had aheadache or not, I really don't
remember.
But it was just one day, it wasnot three weeks.
So I grew up on pop.
You say soda, I say pop and um,and so yeah, and so then I
switched to coffee, likesomewhere in my young adult life
(06:41):
.
So I never was really likefully off that heavy dosage,
daily dosage of caffeine.
So like this is green tea, youknow.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So oh, because I was.
I was gonna make a snide remarkabout the fact you're drinking
yeah, it looks like I'm right,right.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, I know but it's herbal it's well.
Green tea, I don't think, istechnically herbal.
I'm not a connoisseur, but uh,it's about, I think, the same
amount of caffeine that you getin mud water, about 35
milligrams, where coffee is like100, right, so you have three
of these.
It's like one coffee and for meI was drinking like three, four
cups a day easily.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh, I don't do that no problem Really.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Like before gigs, like before speaking gigs, I'd
wake up early kind of, startgetting in the zone, drink my
first cup, and then they havecoffee down.
Drink my first cup, I want one.
Then they have coffee down atthe.
There's a coffee station, it'sfree.
You're like, oh, this is easy,and I just keep taking it
because it was just like, it wasjust fun.
I just liked having that warmcup of hot roasted beanage in my
hand.
I was like this is nice.
(07:38):
It was not like if I was like Ineed to wake up, maybe that was
like the first one or two cupsand then it was just like this
is fun to drink this.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, I drink it more for the flavor than anything
else.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yes, it's the warmth and the flavor yeah, that ritual
part of it, yeah, I don't eventhink about the caffeine jolt.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I mean, I'm sure I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, and I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I miss it if it's not there, but I love the flavor.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Which is weird because when, I was little.
It tasted like motor oil to me.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Oh, I know, I know, isn't that funny how that
switches over.
Yeah, this is the CoffeeAddicts podcast, in case you're
just tuning in.
Well, awesome.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Lauren?
And how much sweetener do youput in your coffee?
Don't even ask me, because Ihave people that raise their
eyebrows at me.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, let us know in the chat how often.
Oh wait, that's a virtual gig,all right.
Lauren Schieffer grew up in theAir Force.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Being uprooted and relocated every couple of years.
The lessons she learned fromthe Colonel in quotes and you'll
learn more about that havehelped her make smart decisions
and overcome adversity withhumility and a sense of humor,
of course.
Since stepping away fromcorporate America to work for
herself, she has spoken in sevencountries.
That's more than I've done too,so bam, but I am international,
(08:49):
all right, but she's spoken inseven countries too Associations
, organizations, federal, stateand local governments, as well
as Fortune 500 companies,helping them improve the
effectiveness of theircommunication, reduce
unnecessary conflict and helpthem lead Helping, lead them out
of drama.
I almost I read that earlier andI was like oh, that's cool.
And I almost said help, helpingthem lead out of a drama, which
(09:13):
sounds like you're leading froma place of drama, but you're
leading them out of drama.
So my wording had to choosethat very carefully and make
sure I read it word for word.
So I have daughters, so I'm allabout let's lead people out of
drama, right, mainly me.
I'm the biggest drama queen inour family.
(09:33):
Anyway, when she's not speaking, working with clients or
consuming way too much coffee,she loves adorning the back of
her husband's motorcycle andsinging Broadway show tunes.
All right, so here it is,lauren Schieffer.
So many questions have poppedup during our breakfast
conversation and out of this bio, and I feel like our
interactions have always justbeen hey, how you doing?
(09:54):
Hey, we're at NSA conventionsand there's not a lot of time to
sit down and get to know eachother.
So this is really fun to kindof like dive in a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
So I had the privilege of seeing a mutual
friend of ours recently that Ihadn't seen him forever.
Dorinda, dorinda, nichols, ohyeah, and.
And she threw her arms in theair and she said Fender fluff.
And she's the only one thatgets away with calling me that,
(10:23):
besides myself.
But I am, I am Fender Fluff,that's funny you are and you own
it oh.
I had T-shirts made.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Nice, I had T-shirts made.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
The front says Fender Fluff and on the back it says I
make his bike look good oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
So tell me about these Broadway show tunes.
How did that start?
Is it constant from stop tofinish?
Is it just like you break outinto it and startle him and he
kind of shakes the bike likewhoa, she's doing the show tunes
thing?
How does that pop in there?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, it's not always simultaneous.
I'm not always on the bike whenI'm singing Broadway show tunes
.
Often I'm in the shower.
I spent a lot of my life in thetheater and doing musical
theater, musical comedy, and Idon't quite have the chops that
I used to.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Okay, because Put over the roar of a motorcycle or
the gentle water of a shower.
See, that's the great thing.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's the great thing about being on the back of
the motorcycle, because, forsomeone who is inherently a
control freak, uh-huh, yes, I am.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I own it, you're in good company today.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, it's the only time that I have the opportunity
to really just let go ofcontrol, because if a passenger
tries to control anything on amotorcycle, it's dangerous.
You have to just let go and letthe driver ride Wow.
So I have my helmet on and Ihave nothing to control, nothing
(11:51):
to do, and I just start singing.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
He probably doesn't even hear you.
I just realized that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Sometimes it depends on how fast we're going and
whether we have the mics hookedup.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Oh, okay, because we have mics in our helmet.
You do have a mic system.
All right, nice yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
But when we get to speed, sometimes it's like so
garbled, it's like yeah honey, Idon't know what you're saying.
Sitting on a porch swinglistening to the light rain.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
You know, I don't know.
If you're ever like annoyedwith him, do you just turn your
mic off Like it's not working?
I can't Sorry.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
And you just turn it off is not a show tune.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Okay, all right, what's your favorite song?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It's it's an old carpenter song.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Okay, top of the world, okay, nice.
Do you know that?
No, give me a little bit of it.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I'm on the top of the world and looking down on
creation.
I'm.
The only explanation I can findIs the love.
Okay, that's enough.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, no, I recognize it.
I didn't recognize it by name,but yeah, I've heard that one.
Okay, great, wow, that'sawesome.
Another fun fact, because wewant to jump into something
about significance here in amoment, because that's kind of
where we're going with this.
But you told me right as we putthe headphones on and started
talking to the microphones thatyou were the last recorded voice
for something for the fordmotor company back in 84 to my
(13:21):
knowledge and give me that voiceyour door is a jar and did that
go into?
like many cars, like I mean,you're too young to know that
there was a time when that waswhat you heard.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Please turn off your blinker.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Okay, wow.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
There was a time.
Now you get ding, ding, dingding ding, ding.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Okay, I see, I see Many of you are probably hearing
that voice and you're like ohmy gosh that's her.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Wow, did you do more voice talent than that?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I did a lot of voice talent.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
yeah, Did you really Wow, okay, that's crazy.
See, I did not know this aboutyou.
That's fun.
Lauren's actually from here inKansas City, from Bonner Springs
, which is really close toShawnee, where I live, and
Bonner is where Zach is from aswell.
Go Braves, yeah, all it is highschool mascot.
(14:15):
Shout out right, that's awesome.
Um, so so she's part of the nsakansas city family, the
national speakers association,our local chapter.
That's mainly our, our normal,our original connection.
Right, candy worley was on thepodcast a few months ago.
She's another part of thefamily and I was telling candy
that when I would go toconvention and we would always
have like an nsa kansas citysort of like a dinner.
It really fun.
It felt like this is my family.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
It just I don't know.
It was always kind of like okay, these are like the people that
I just feel safe andcomfortable around, like, oh,
familiar people amidst all thesepeople that I, you know, I
hardly know.
So it was really nice.
So it's kind of like havingfamily back.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, back here.
So that's great, and one of mybest stories about an NSA
convention is a story about you.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Oh, really, yeah, no way, it's embarrassing for you.
Oh, it's embarrassing for me.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh yeah, okay, cool yeah because my very first
convention, which we now callInfluence right.
Nobody told me that there wasthis big gala event at the end
and that it was a dress up.
You know we call it NSA, promright.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Right, right right.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I didn't know that, and so I hadn't come prepared,
so I had to throw somethingtogether.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah and.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I pulled all my hair up and I, you know, and I had
flowers in and I walked in andyou-.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I remember exactly what I said you started to walk
past me and I said Devin, andyou said oh, I didn't recognize
you.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You look good, that's what he said and I said I'm not
quite sure how to take that.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, yeah, I was like that was like two thoughts
that got thrown together andmade it sound very bad, like, oh
, typically yes, but now it's,you know, yeah, it was like two
different thoughts that, whenthrown together, that did not
come across well.
So I think the next time I sawyou I was like, let me try this.
So hey, you look great, yeah,and I know exactly who you are.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
From the moment I walked into the room.
Lauren, that's awesome.
Okay, so let's jump in now.
Tell me the difference betweensignificance and success.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Most of us are programmed from a very young age
to chase success.
Success is about me.
It's about how much money Imake and what my title is and
what my accolades are and wheremy parking spot is.
There's nothing wrong withsuccess.
(16:44):
There's nothing wrong withmaking good money for what you
do, and I don't want to bemisunderstood about that.
But significance is different.
Significance has nothingwhatsoever to do with how much
money I have or make.
It's about how many lives Itouch and the manner in which I
choose to impact them.
(17:04):
Because how we impact others isa choice, and the colonel
always said anyone can besuccessful, kiddo.
Choose to be significant.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
So from a very young age, I was taught to chase
significance instead.
That resonates with me deeply,right, because you know we're in
the same industry no-transcript, so many listeners and I want
(18:03):
that.
But it's about what?
What significance am I havingfor in people's lives?
You know so when they listen tothis, when they listen to a
guest like you, it's not aboutwell, let me go see how many
people listen to that a weekfrom now, or you know how many
people downloaded it.
It's like how has how is mebringing Lauren on here changed,
changed the people and made asignificant difference in their
(18:23):
lives, right?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
So it's not about numbers and success.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
It's just about, hey, we're improving the quality of
people's life and work.
But when I get caught up in thesuccess race then it is about
numbers, money, all that kind ofstuff and it's superficial, it
doesn't bring lasting joy.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But the significance does.
Here's the thing I believe thatwhen we focus on significance
and truly that's where we'releading from our heart and our
soul Success follows.
It follows naturally.
And I was having a conversationwith some colleagues the other
day and she has the opportunityto have a really amazing
(19:11):
exposure nationally.
And I just kind of saidoffhandedly well, you know, I'm
never going to be a nationalmedia sensation, but I serve a
lot of people from thebackground and I had not meant
that as disparaging to myself.
And, of course, because we'rein the industry, we're in
(19:36):
they're like now.
Don't say that you know youcould blow up tomorrow and be a
national name.
I'm not fooling myself.
You know the people that I'mintended to touch I will touch
and nothing can change that andnothing can stop that, and I
don't have to be a national nameto do it.
(19:56):
But when I focus onsignificance, success naturally
follows.
When anyone focuses onsignificance, success naturally
follows.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Well, you're a professional speaker, you've
been doing it a while and you'rea master storyteller.
So I know you get on stage andright now this is resonating, it
seems like, with your clients,with your audiences this concept
of significance first, and thensuccess follows.
So how are you doing that fromthe stage and how can you?
Even today, I'm putting you onthe spot Is there a story you'd
like to share, whether it's fromyour keynote or something that
(20:29):
the listeners could go?
Oh, because for me, like I waslike, it resonates deeply.
Maybe someone else, maybe theyneed a story or something to you
know.
Is there I know I'm putting youon the spot big time Well, and
maybe not a story maybe justgoing a little deeper with how
Professional speakers alwayshave a story, yeah, ready.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
The question is, how can I narrow it down?
So my father the colonel had ahabit of saying he would stop in
the middle of a sentence and hewould say pay attention, kid.
This is a road sign in yourlife.
You need to decide if you'regoing to follow it or not.
So one of the stories that Itell from stage is about the
(21:13):
fact that my because my fatherwas a handyman and a mechanic
our cars were always breakingdown.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Always.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
And long before cell phones.
And you know, roadside service.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And Ford voices in your car saying hey, your door
is ajar my father would stop tohelp every time because people
had stopped to help us.
At that point in history, whenyou're stranded on the side of
the road, you know dad wouldpull out his magic toolbox.
But if it was something thatthe magic toolbox couldn't fix,
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we'd have to wait until someonestopped that the magic toolbox
couldn't fix.
We'd have to wait till someonestopped, and so my father
stopped to help it was part ofthe DNA of our family and I
remember one time we stopped tohelp a family broken down on the
side of the road outside ofQuemado, new Mexico.
Now, just in case you don'tknow, Okay, I don't.
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Quemado.
New Mexico is halfway betweenGod's nowhere and never heard of
it.
New, Mexico.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Oh, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
The family was Hispanic and spoke very little
English.
They had three small childrenand one very much on the way.
And my father had beenstationed in uh at Torajone,
first base outside of um Madrid,so he had a little bit of
Spanish.
So I watched dad pull out hismagic toolbox Between halting
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English, halting Spanish andsign language.
Dad and the stranded fatherwent to work.
Now, my sister and I were alltoo familiar with this, so we
pulled out our box of toys and abag of snacks, sat down with
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the three kids to keep themcompany.
Morning turned into afternoonand still they tinkered, still
they toyed.
Afternoon turned into lateafternoon and the father got
into the car to try one moretime and the engine sputtered
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and then roared to life.
All right and the colonelbellowed in victory and he was
covered in grease from ear toear and the stranded mother
started to cry and all of thekids ran over and threw their
arms around my father's legs.
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And the dad reached a greasyhand and he said Vaya con Dios,
mi amigo.
And as we watched them driveoff into the sunset, dad started
to shake.
He said Pay attention, kid,this is a road sign.
We were significant today andI've carried that with me.
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You know, we gave up a day, afull day, standing on the side
of the road.
But without us, who knows whowould have stopped for that
family?
Because at that time in historypeople who didn't speak.
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English in.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
America were less common.
Wow, yeah, that is significance.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Having significance.
That's amazing.
So tell me more.
Yeah, then, thank you for that.
And I think, with the listeners, I mean it's kind of like they
can draw their own conclusionfrom that, right?
Well, what does that mean forme, you know, it's like how can
I give up a day, give up a fewhours, give up five minutes,
right?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, it doesn't have to be a day To work for
significance, right?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Sometimes it might be , but sometimes it's just about
paying attention and going outof your way to open the door for
someone or say hi, it can bethat small to have a moment of
significance, right.
So when you start, I'm guessingyou would agree that if they
start thinking with asignificance mindset in their
day-to-day, they're just goingto impact their family, their
lives, their clients, theircustomers, everyone they serve,
their community in such biggerways and you start seeing things
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that you'd never seen before,because you're watching for it
right, watching for moments ofwhere can I have significance?
Oh, I love that.
That's great.
So this sounds like this is anidea that came from the colonel,
your father, yeah, so tell memore about the colonel, because
this has become not just a partof who you are.
This is like part of your brandnow, your speaking brand, and
it's where you've learned a lotof your lessons, where you've
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learned a lot of your lessons.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
It is my brand, and it wasn't originally, though.
Okay.
So my father was a career AirForce officer, okay, and he was
an imposing figure.
He stood six feet six and ahalf inches tall.
He was 285 pounds on his veryleanest day, wow, and he had a
personality that entered theroom five minutes before he did.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
That's a big man.
I didn't know the Colonel wasthat ginormous.
He was a big man.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And so much of what I know, I believe I teach.
I either learned directly fromthe Colonel or I learned from
people I had the privilege ofknowing and learning from
because of who he was and whathe did for the Air Force.
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Just a couple of examples myfather's best friend or one of
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my father's dear friends, wasshot down over Laos and ended up
being in the Hanoi Hilton withJohn McCain.
They came home on the sametransport, which is how my of
knowing John McCain and Iactually worked on his very
first campaign forrepresentative for Arizona.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Oh really, so that's how I got to know him.
Wasn't John McCain also in thesame POW camp in Vietnam as
Charlie Plum?
Captain Charlie Plum, yes, okay, yes, all right.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah.
So also when I was in juniorhigh school, my father was the
division chief for the flightdynamics laboratory at
Wright-Patterson and they had atake your child to work day,
yeah.
So I went with daddy to workNice and there was a visiting
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officer there who was visitingto consult with my father from
the Washington School of War.
I was not aware that there wasa Washington School of War.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
You didn't know that, right, we talk about it like
all the time, all the time.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, so he happened to be there to consult with my
father on the same day that Ihappened to be there.
So I sat at lunch with Daddy onone side and on the other was,
at that point, lieutenantColonel Colin Powell.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
And he asked me questions about me and my life
and what I enjoyed and what Iloved, and he listened like it
really mattered to him and talkabout being significant and
making someone, a little girl,feel significant and I was
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certain certain we were going tobe best friends for life.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Mm-hmm, you and Colin yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I had the privilege.
Of course, I never had theopportunity to be in his
presence again, okay, butbecause we were besties, I
followed everything about himTotally.
And read everything he's everwritten and have learned from
him.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Now I've learned from other people as well.
You can't study leadership andnot learn from John C Maxwell.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
And I've learned a lot from Mary Kay Ash from the
years that I spent in Mary Kay,but it started with dad and the
book series oh segue.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, here we go, let's jump into the book.
By the way, those are someserious names you just dropped
McCain, powell.
I'm excited to see who else isgoing to pop up here Elton John.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yes, I learned leadership lessons.
And then Brad Pitt popped inand was like let me tell you
about significance.
I learned the Broadway showtunes from Elton.
Okay the book, yeah the bookseries.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Let's talk about the new, because you have a new book
.
I do, but before we do that,okay, you have a thousand books.
I think you've written right, Iknow Something like that.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
The new one is number four, okay, Four, number two
and number three are a calledKernels of Wisdom.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
And every day, on all of my social media channels and
everything I drop, a dailyKernel of Wisdom.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
That's such a brilliant name.
Thank you, c-o-l-o-n-e-l.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Kernel of Wisdom.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yes, that's so great.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I love wordplay like that.
I'm a sucker for it.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
You know, and when the brand came together, it all
fell in place like that.
I was like this is perfect.
It's entirely who I am.
Oh, totally as a human being.
That's great.
So, Colonels of Wisdom, the twobooks are quotes from my dad.
Okay, and then I flesh it out.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
The titles of the books are quotes from your dad.
Is that what you?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
mean oh, the whole book, the whole book, oh, the
whole book.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Wow, that's a lot of quotes to fill up a book.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Well, each book has 52.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
And I did that intentionally.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Still a lot.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
So that you could, if you chose, use it as a study
once a week for a year.
So there's a quote from my dadand then I flesh it out.
What's the story behind thequote?
What did it mean to me?
What might it mean to you andyour business?
Volume one is on leadership andvolume two is on significance.
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Volume three coming soon willbe on accountability and
personal ownership.
Nice, so I quote my dad all thetime.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Which makes me wonder is every colonel this wise?
You know what I mean that theycould basically have someone
write a book off the things theysay?
I mean, I know he's a militarycolonel.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
He was a very human human being.
Lots of people are like oh,your father was amazing.
Yes, he was amazing, he was agreat, he was a human being.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
But enough of what was really good about him stuck
with me.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
So and the two that I that have defined who I am as a
human being, the two quotes isthe significance quote Anyone
can be successful.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Choose to be significant, and the other one
has forged my belief in treatingall people with respect.
Whether or not I like what youthink, say or do, I don't have
to respect you.
I do have to treat you withrespect, because dad used to say
you don't have to respecteveryone.
Lauren Ann, you have no rightto disrespect anyone young lady.
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Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Do you think that your fatheractively knew he was imparting
this wisdom?
In a way that was going to growyour character.
It was just like what came outof him.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I think growing our character was important to him.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
He had no idea that I would take it and blossom with
it.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
As a matter of fact, I think, in hindsight, I think
he would be just a littleembarrassed by the way I have
grown.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Put that on display.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah, I want to say the way I've used him Right,
right, right.
Yeah, He'd have been like oh,this is ridiculous, Lauren Ann.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
But ultimately I would imagine now that him,
knowing the impact that it'shaving on people it's having
which is why you're doing sowell with speaking and writing
that it's like I think if he sawthe significance it was making,
he would probably change hismind and say oh yeah, that's
good.
I'm glad you're using it.
You know, I'm glad it's makinga difference for people, because
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that's the kind of person hewas.
He would like that that'shappening.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, you know.
So that's great.
He liked making a differencefor people.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, way to take it and run with it.
That's amazing.
You know that you just have allthis.
I think A lot of us dosometimes have more wisdom
that's been imparted to us orlife experiences that we don't
know.
We can use this to leverage ourrelationships and help other
people, or you can just useourselves.
We forget the awesome thingswe've learned, so that's good.
Anything else about the newbook?
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The new book Do you want totell us?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah yeah, this one came out not quite a year ago.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
And it is based on my nine essentials of significant
leadership, which is theplatform that I have.
I've taken everything that I'veever taught about leadership
and steeped it into nine coreessentials that are a 40,000
foot view of significantleadership.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
And my experience has shown me, Is that purpose?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
the Air Force thing, the look down on it, is that
purposeful?
I'm just curious because I knowhow you're clever, so I'm
thinking the 40,000 foot view,you know.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Well boy, I wish I could say yes it is now.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It is now, it is now.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
No, it's just that some people will look at the
nine essentials and say, well,that's pretty simple.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
And it could be.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
But my experience has shown me that the day-to-day
deliverables of leadership theseare going to be increased
productivity, profitability,increased customer service,
market share, employeeengagement, reduced attrition.
All of those will fall in line,naturally, if the leader
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functions.
Everything they do through thelens of the nine essentials,
okay, through the lens of thenine essentials, okay, and so
the book is basically my nineessentials in a book form.
So part one of, and the otherthing that I love about this
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book is the title and the latestbook is called Help Others Grow
First.
How Smart Leaders Attract andRetain Great Employees.
And that came about because Ihave a colleague in the NSA
circle.
And during one of his sessionsat Winter Conference he
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challenged the audience todecide what we wanted written on
our epitaph and you know, hegave us like 10 minutes to
figure it out and I didn't needthe 10 minutes because I knew
what it was immediately.
And that was help others growfirst, because when we are
significant, our success follows, so if I'm helping others, and
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that concept is not original.
I think it was Zig Ziglar thatsaid if you help enough people
achieve what you want out oflife, you will achieve what you
want out of life.
So that's the title of the bookHelp Others Grow First.
How Smart Leaders Attract andRetain Great Employees.
So part one highlights theproblem of the revolving door
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syndrome that is happeningpretty consistently since the
pandemic.
Part two is the nine essentialsand how they relate to fixing
that problem.
And then part three is a casestudy of a corporation that I
have worked for that shallrename nameless, because my
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consulting clients always remainnameless.
But the nine essentials areworking for him.
I'm working well for him.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, nice.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
And so that's what that book is.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
And would it make sense now to give us the nine
essentials Like, is it too muchto?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
just— oh, what you want to know what they are.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
No, yeah, I mean, do you just—I mean I'm like, oh,
let's hear them, let's know whatthey are.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Yeah, no, they're actually very simple, very
simple, okay, Essential numberone is understand your own value
.
Okay, I cannot treat otherpeople with respect if I don't
respect myself.
Number two is treat all peoplewith respect.
I don't have to respect you.
There's a difference betweenrespect for and respect to, so
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respect to all people.
Treat all people with respect.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Number three is act with integrity at all times.
Number four is open your mindto new possibilities.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
And this is where we are the Possibility Mindset
Podcast.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
There you go, here it is, we're on brand Nice.
A closed mind cannot grow and aclosed mind cannot lead, and a
closed mind cannot lead.
Number five cast a vision.
But for significant leaders,because casting a vision is kind
of leadership 101 stuff.
But for significant leaders itgoes so much deeper than that,
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Because I can create a visionfor the company, but if it's not
resonating with people who I'mleading in that company, it's a
flat vision.
So a significant leader has tofigure out what that vision is
going to look like for eachindividual person.
What's it going to look like,feel like, smell like, be like
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when we together get where we'regoing?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I like that.
Why does it matter to you?
What's the name of that one?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Cast a vision.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Cast a vision.
That's good.
That's number five, I like thatbecause everyone is different,
right?
It's got to be almost likecustomized to each person.
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Essential number six communicate respectfully, and
respectful communication is ahigher standard than assertive
communication.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Okay, say that one more time Assertive.
And the other one wasRespectful, respectful.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
What's the difference ?
So I again.
My experience has shown me thatrespectful communication, by
its very nature, is assertive.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Okay, not all assertive communication is A
calm.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
nature is assertive.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Okay, not all assertive communication is A
calm, healthy assertive right?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yes, yeah, but not all assertive communication is
necessarily respectful.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
So one of the things that is the core to what I teach
is our objective ascommunicators.
My objective as a communicatoris, first, all people feel safe
and treated with respect in mypresence.
So that's physically safe,emotionally safe, intellectually
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safe and treated with respectin my presence.
Because if I don't feel safe orI feel disrespected, I'm not
really anxious to have aconversation with you.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
So that's got to be number one.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Number two.
I can see why this helpssupport that whole how smart
leaders attract and retain greatemployees.
This communication, part ofit's huge, it's huge Right.
It's the first thing they knowis how do they communicate here?
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, so if the nine essentials were to be like in a
circle, it's like the core.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Sure Number six is the core Totally.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
I'm feeling that so all people feel safe and treated
with respect in my presencewhile I stand my own ground and.
I get my message across.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
And it's a little backward from the way most
people teach communication.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Because most people well-beloved and respected
colleagues will tell you thatthe most important thing is to
be clear to be understood.
I've encountered a great manypeople that are very clear in
their communication and theyleave dead bodies behind them as
they do business.
That's why I have to approachit from the way I do so.
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Number six communicaterespectfully, yeah.
Number seven lead by example.
Again, seemingly leadership 101material.
There are three ways to lead,three and only three.
By example day everywhere andall things.
Because your employees, yourteam, is watching you all the
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time.
They're watching you when theyrun into you in the grocery
store to see how you're treatingthe cashier or the bus person
at the restaurant.
They're watching you to seewhere that candy wrapper drops
out of your hand Is it on thesidewalk or is it in?
the rubbish bin.
They're watching you all thetime.
You have to lead by example.
It's an incredibly.
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When you really think about it,it's an incredibly high
standard, oh yeah, I think aboutthat all the time.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
I think about even in my home.
I don't always know whenthere's a kid in the next room,
you know, and so it's like, oh,and I hate that.
That motivates Because there's.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
In your home there's always a kid in the next room.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
I know there's always someone somewhere, but I would
hope that my faith would be thething that really gives me the
best motivator for being on mybest behavior and living in a
way of integrity all the time.
But you know I'm human the time.
But you know I'm human, I'msinful, I have thoughts and I'll
say things, and things thataren't you know necessarily
always things I'm proud of youknow.
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So, like I always think, okay,who's watching?
There's cameras, so be careful,there's kids.
Or when you're giving a keynoteand you're in a hotel where all
the other attendees are, okay,best behavior.
And it's like man, I want to goback further and think always,
even when I'm alone, what am Ithinking, what am I saying to
myself out loud, what are mythoughts, so that I don't have
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to worry about who's watching,because that's who I am.
So then it's kind of like thatIf you just are a person of
integrity, then you will lead byexample, because it's just
going to come out of you.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
And for us and, I believe, for significant leaders
.
But I'm not because you and Iare both people of faith and so
to say, there's no one watching.
Well, there's always someonewatching.
And even if someone doesn'tbelieve in a higher power as we
do, their own, subconscious iswatching.
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There's always someone watching.
So lead by example at all times.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Number where am I?
Eight?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Number eight is celebrate the results of others.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Significant leaders do not look for accolades.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
They look to give accolades.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Wow, which is one big way to help others grow first,
right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
And number nine is work for your replacement.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
As leaders.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Our number one responsibility is to replace
ourselves, and that's wheresignificant leadership varies
from servant leadership.
Servant leadership is atremendous standard, but, at its
heart, servant leadershipdoesn't ask for anything in
return, which is noble.
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Significant leadership does.
Significant leadership asks,and more so expects, that this
that I breathe into you, youwill take and breathe into
others.
I am replacing myself withother significant leaders, who
will replace themselves withsignificant leaders and before
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we know it, like ripples in apond, the world is populated
with significant leaders.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Pay it forward.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yep, work for your replacement.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Oh, that's so great.
I love this.
This is all.
I can see why your audience isand why your buyers are going.
Our people need this.
I mean, this can completelytransform a culture.
Right, by the way, if you'reone of those people out there
looking for speakers, now youknow why people use Lauren, so,
of course, her website andeverything will be linked in the
show notes.
Check her out, give her a call,bring her in, because these are
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the lessons that she teaches.
Significance is her hottesttopic right now.
Who doesn't want to attract andretain greater quality talent
these days Harder now than it'sever been?
And you can help them with that.
I will tell you that as westart to close here.
Lauren, just the title of yourbook, just that first part Help
Others Grow First resonates withme deeply.
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I just shared this with someoneover coffee two days ago.
There's a verse, a Bible verse,something about loving your
enemies and pray for those whopersecute you.
Well, my competitors are not myenemies, but if I were to apply
that whole love others and prayfor them then I would be doing
that for my competitors, andwhere I'm going with this is
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like I used to be afraid of myclients knowing about my
competitors, like, don't knowabout them because you want to
hire only me.
You know I can talk aboutanything and next year bring me
back and I'll think of somethingelse to talk about, because I
want your money and I want tokeep getting booked and I didn't
want them to.
This was true when I was amagician and when I became a
speaker.
This is kind of like a when Ilacked maturity and didn't
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understand about helping othersgrow first, and what I've
learned over time is it's thatwhole concept of light someone
else's candle.
It takes nothing away fromyours.
And if I start to champion youand Joel Goldberg and Cam
Awesome and Mark Mayfield all ofour NSA friends that are
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speakers if I start to championthem, pray for them, and then
it's kind of like that, then I'mhaving significance because I'm
helping them.
I'm connecting people to peoplewho need them.
It's like, hey, go to Lauren,she talks about this.
I'm connecting people to peoplewho need them.
You know it's like, hey, go toLauren, she talks about this.
I don't necessarily talkspecifically about these.
You know specifics ofsignificance and she does, and
so for me, the podcast has beena healthy way for me to like
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champion other people and getout of the way of myself and not
worry about Devin Devin.
Devin Devin you know, and sothat's why your book I'm like
but I'm growing.
There's still sometimes thatfear factor in me that wants to
protect my brand and my businessand my checkbook, and you know
what I mean.
But it's like when I releasethat and just give it over to
God and pray for people andchampion them.
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Like this, like your book talksabout, I live more free, I'm
living with more fulfillment,more joy, and guess what?
I can feel that I'm living withmore significance.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, and that growth it comes with time, because I
used to be exactly the same way,and it also comes with
hyper-focus on knowing who youare, what your strengths are and
and what, um I present.
That is different and betterthan anyone else.
(48:23):
And and you know we weretalking about that over
breakfast Um and I've.
I've gotten to a point and thishas come out of my mouth a
couple of times.
The first time it was like, butnow I'm much more comfortable
with it and I've said to clientsso let's talk about leadership
training for your emergingleaders.
(48:45):
If you are looking for someonefor leadership training, for
someone to guide you through thestrategic path of where your
company is going over the nextfive to seven years, I know
somebody who does that that'sbetter than I am and I will
refer you.
If, in your mind, leadershiptraining is someone to walk you
(49:06):
through where to move thefinancial pieces on your puzzle
for best sustainability andprofit, I know somebody that's
better at that than I am and Ican refer you.
But if you're looking forsomeone to train your leaders on
how to relate to, communicateand inspire the people they lead
(49:27):
for a greater corporate culture, boy, I think there are very
few people that are better atthat than I am, and it took me a
while to be able to say that,but I sincerely believe that.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
And that's about knowing each other's strengths.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
For sure yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
And referring the best possible opportunity to my
clients.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
For sure, awesome.
Can they get your book throughthe website?
They can, okay, awesome.
So that's the newest book.
Help Others Grow First.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
They can get all of them.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Again, all of them on there.
You can do the whole saga, thewhole Lauren Schieffer saga.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
And they're also available on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Okay, get them on Amazon too.
Okay, perfect, okay, awesome,that's so great, hey, thanks for
being here today, thank you forhaving me.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
This has been so much fun.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah, I do have one ultimate last question for you
that we'll get to in one second.
First, let's just thankEtcetera one more time, woohoo.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Great food For being amazing.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
I was going to see if their logo was on.
It's on neither one of our cups, that's okay.
Thank you, etcetera, shawnee,for the breakfast and for the
space, and, and also remembermudwatercom, slash dev.
And if you want to join me onthis mudwater journey of no
coffee and seeing if lesscaffeine can significantly
improve the quality of your life, all right.
(50:45):
Last question you ready for it?
I think you're the perfectperson to ask this to.
I ask it to every guest.
Just, could you please give onepiece of advice to my daughters
?
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Yeah, don't worry about what other people think of
you, because what other peoplethink of you is really none of
your business.
You need to walk in who you areas a human being, do yourself.
You need to walk in who you areas a human being.
(51:22):
Do yourself and your parentsand your Lord proud.
When my kids were littleanytime I dropped them off
somewhere and they hated it.
But I would say make goodchoices and remember whose child
(51:42):
you are.
And I had someone say to meonce oh, because you don't want
her to make you look bad.
I said it's not about me at all.
She's a child of the king.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
She's a child of the king.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
So if your daughters make good choices and remember
whose child they are, then theywon't have to worry about what
other people say about them, andthey'll be fine, that's great,
thank you.
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
I really love the part about don't worry what
other people think about you.
That's none of your business,it's none of your business.
That's huge, because I'm a veryvain, prideful person who even
in my early to mid-40s still isconsumed with what people think
of me, and I think that's partof the entertainer in me, oh the
(52:34):
fact that I say it doesn't meanI've mastered it and so I'm
like, wow, that hits me just ashard as it could my kids right
now.
That's none of my business,don't worry about what they
think about me.
That doesn't mean it's like Idon't care about nothing.
You know I'm going to be rude.
That's not the whole motivation.
It's just like remember whosechild you are.
If you remember that, then theycan think what they want.
It's none of your business.
That's empowering.
Thank you for that.
(52:55):
That's great.
You're welcome.
Okay, awesome.
We're going to wrap it up nowwith the phrase that is a
question you always ask when youembrace the possibility mindset
, which is what else is possible?
So we're going to team up andask it.
I'm going to say what else yousay is possible Sound good?
Okay, all right, and rememberto never, ever stop asking the
(53:15):
question what else is possible?
See you next time.
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