What if the key to true freedom, joy, and resilience wasn’t about pushing harder but about strengthening what’s inside? In this special episode of The Power Transformation Podcast, I have the absolute honor of sitting down with someone who has not only inspired me from afar but has also poured into me personally: My dear mentor, Tina Lifford.
While Tina is an esteemed powerhouse Hollywood actress, playwright, and bestselling author, beyond the screen she’s leading a global movement called The Inner Fitness Project to help people stop merely surviving and start thriving through the practice of strengthening our emotions, beliefs, and mindset just like we do our bodies.
In our conversation, Tina opens up about her own journey, how we can break free from limiting beliefs, and why small, intentional shifts in our thinking can lead to radical transformation. Moreover, she gives us an exclusive look into her upcoming book, The Inner Fitness Revolution, releasing March 11, 2025.
This episode is packed with heart, wisdom, and the kind of deep soul work that changes lives. If you’ve ever felt stuck in fear or self-doubt, this conversation is exactly what you need. So, listen in, soak up Tina’s brilliance, and don’t forget to pre-order her book. You will thank yourself later!
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Alethea Felton (00:07):
I am interviewing one of my mentors
today and I couldn't be moreexcited.
Tina Lifford is our veryspecial guest today on the Power
Transformation podcast.
She is a Hollywood actress, sheis founder of the Inner Fitness
Project, she is a best-sellingauthor and so much more, and she
(00:34):
has a new book being releasedMarch 11th the Inner Fitness
Revolution and this is what ourtalk is all about today.
I have been a part of the innerfitness community for a few
years now, and it is aclose-knit group of us who are
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intentional about practicing andnurturing our mental, emotional
and spiritual well-being justas we would do our physical body
.
And Tina Lifford is one of themost humble, giving,
kind-hearted, wise women that Ihave ever encountered in my life
(01:16):
, and she has truly made adifference in my life, and I am
excited to jump into thisinterview with her today.
So welcome to the PowerTransformation Podcast.
I am your host, alethea Felton,and I also have some wonderful
news the Power TransformationPodcast is now on YouTube.
(01:37):
Yes, it's been a long timecoming, and it is because of you
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It is truly transformational.
As customary here, we alwayslike to begin with a positive
(02:28):
affirmation.
I'm going to say theaffirmation once, and then you
repeat it and we will get rightinto this interview with Tina
Lifford.
I am more than enough, andenough in every way.
I cannot begin to tell you allwhat an honor it is to have this
guest on the PowerTransformation podcast.
(02:50):
She is an incredible humanbeing in my life and I would
like to welcome Tina Lifford.
Welcome, tina.
Tina Lifford (03:00):
Hey there, alethea , how are you?
Alethea Felton (03:03):
I'm doing.
Well, this is going to be anice conversation because we
already know each other and I'mtelling you, you all, if you
don't know about Tina now, youwill know after this interview,
because she is changing the faceand the course of the world
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through the work that she does.
And so let's just go ahead andfirst start with a fun,
lighthearted, icebreakerquestion.
And, tina, this is the questionfor you.
Suppose you had a day where youhad no appointments, no
schedules, no Zooms, calls oranything.
What would the perfect, idealday look like for you?
Tina Lifford (03:47):
Wow, it's going to sound crazy, but I live a lot
of ideal days because I like tojust I like to just contemplate
my navel, I like to think aboutthe universe, I like to think
(04:12):
about limitations and how tomove beyond them.
You know how you lay on thebeach sometimes and just let
your mind drift.
I had some experiences when Iwas younger that let me know
that there's so much more thanwhat we can see disappear from
(04:42):
my habits and my limited ways ofthinking and find myself in a
whole new, more expanded being.
Alethea Felton (04:56):
Think about that all the time.
Yeah, I like when you say yourexpanded way of being, because I
think that sometimes peopleonly think of themselves as this
one aspect.
But I have come to know that weare multi-layered,
multi-faceted individuals, andthat leads me to asking you a
(05:20):
question that may seem complex,but you can answer it in any way
that you like.
Who is Tina Lifford?
Tina Lifford (05:51):
Oh, that's a fantastic.
Rooted to a universalconsciousness.
I'm going to say it again I aman idea in the mind of universal
consciousness, given the giftof form this body and operating
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from the body, but rooted tosomething greater.
That's who I am.
Alethea Felton (06:30):
So then a person could ask well, does that
something greater mean?
It's a physical God, or is itenergy, or is it spirit?
How would you respond to that?
Tina Lifford (06:40):
I would say that there is clearly and undeniably
an intelligence that backs thisentire world.
You know, and I can't even sayworld as we know it.
(07:02):
I can say as we know it becausewhat we know about it is
minuscule compared to what it is.
And so the intelligence thatallows this to operate as it
does with such precision, suchintentionality, that is what I'm
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speaking of, and to Indeed, andI will tell you that science
says and I'm not a person whoemphasizes science as though the
it's the be all or the bottomline, because science is a work
(07:54):
in progress.
Science is only as scientificas the minds that have been able
to contemplate or understand upuntil now.
You, know that's why when westarted with Newtonian science,
you know we didn't know anythingabout quantum science or
(08:16):
quantum physics.
So we're all in this state ofexpanding into an understanding.
Infinitely, yes, because whatwe are in is an infinite
consciousness, or intelligence,or being, however you want to
(08:39):
call it.
And I would say, alethea, thatone of my growing superpowers is
that I about who I am and whatis so and what is right.
Alethea Felton (09:13):
Wow, and those limiting ideas.
Now I want to start to dig alittle bit deeper here, because
I know what that means.
Deeper here, because I knowwhat that means because I'm a
part of a huge portion of thework you do, based on what I've
learned from you.
But let's break this down evenmore.
(09:35):
You have been on a missionpractically for over four
decades, tina, to make somethingcalled inner fitness as
understood and actionable asphysical fitness.
I think in our society,physical fitness and working out
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and looking great has beenemphasized, which is good.
However, inner fitness is atrue game changer, and so tell
us briefly what exactly is innerfitness?
And then, when was the momentthat made you realize that this
(10:18):
work about inner fitnessactually needed to be a
revolution?
Tina Lifford (10:24):
Yeah, great question, thank you.
So inner fitness is?
It's the inverse of physicalfitness, where we strengthen the
body.
Inner fitness exercises andstrengthens the inner self our
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thoughts, feelings and beliefswhich drives our actions and
reactions.
And inner fitness is, you know,it talks about having a mental
and emotional resilience, ittalks about having self-agency
and it talks about beingself-aware, which is an ongoing
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process.
Inner fitness and I so love howyou set it up fitness, and I so
love how you set it up we havebeen taught to externalize our
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sense of self.
Our sense of self starts outthere, with the people we know,
or the external achievements oraccomplishments, or the success,
the money, the fame, thewhatever we get identified by
that stuff.
Inner fitness is shifting theconversation from the external
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to the internal.
It acknowledges that all ofthose external things exist and
have their place and areimportant.
But what inner fitness does?
It actually acknowledges thatbefore there's all of that stuff
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, there is an inner self andthat inner self drives all of
that stuff out there.
That inner self is our thoughts, our feelings and our beliefs
and how they run through ourbody.
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And if we don't have anunderstanding and a empowering
understanding of ourselves, wewind up living lives that
default to worry, doubt, fearand survival instincts survival
instincts.
But the truth is, when we payattention and become aware of
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who we are inside, as you saidat the very beginning, we
discover that there's thismulti-layered, very expansive
being within us.
Expansive being within us, andwe get to learn that within that
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range we have a surviving self,a thriving self, and the part
of us that knows and leans intoits connection to this infinite
field, and that's what sciencecalls it, this underlying field
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that connects everything.
Alethea Felton (13:53):
And you had a book that was very highly
successful, the little book ofbig lies, but in terms of inner
fitness, that's an entirecommunity.
It's a project, it's so muchmore.
But what led you, tina, toreally saying I want to take
(14:14):
this concept of inner fitnessgreater and I want to
revolutionize it?
When did that aha, come to you?
Tina Lifford (14:23):
Yeah yeah.
Fantastic question, Gosh.
I would say that some versionof this impulse has been in me
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as early as my teens.
I am very grateful that therewas a part of me that was
connected enough to somethinginside that I could listen.
(15:13):
You know, we all have littleurges, we all have desires or
little visions about who we wantto become or what we want to do
.
And mine, mine, had to do withacting.
And why did I wanna act?
Because I wanted to tell peoplestories, right.
(15:34):
And then wanting to tell peoplestories also meant wanting to
really understand people so thatI could tell their stories, and
that morphed into reallywanting to understand myself.
(15:57):
And in the fifth grade I sharein both my books show and I mean
people knew me at school but Ididn't consider myself a popular
person.
Ah okay, but I, you know, I wasin the space you know, I showed
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up so up, so I showed up.
You know I showed up wherever Iwas Right.
And on the day of the firsttime I knew what the order was.
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And when I looked at that pieceof paper and saw that my name
was first on the list, I went.
oh with fear and, unbeknownst tome, that was fear.
And because I didn't know itwas fear, because I didn't know
(17:11):
how to release it, that fear gotstuck inside of me when I
actually stepped on the stage.
There was these pieces of methat were worried about the
(17:31):
experience, that were in somelevel of worried out and fear,
without me even really beingconscious of it.
There was just a I just Iwanted to go second or, you know
, third or whatever, Right.
So by the time I stepped on thestage, Alethea, I didn't know
(17:57):
it, but I was in full blown fear.
So I started to sing Old manRiver.
I got out.
Old man river.
I got out oh man River.
Alethea Felton (18:12):
Never said another word.
Tina Lifford (18:16):
Literally frozen.
Frozen to the point thateverything was black.
Yes, we were in an auditoriumand the lights were down, but
everything was black except forthis beaming white light that
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was, you know, the spotlight.
Alethea Felton (18:39):
The spotlight, yeah, Like yeah.
Tina Lifford (18:42):
And I was so frozen that I could hear the
pianist trying to help me, andultimately, my teacher had to
come to center stage, pick me upand take me off, you know, to
(19:03):
the wings.
And I knew in the second gradethat I wanted to be an actress.
And so here I am with thisexperience and all of this
unrecognized, stuck energy,stuck fear inside of me.
Fear inside of me.
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And what we know about the bodytoday is that fear, or all
emotions, have a chemicalequivalent and all emotions, if
they are working properly, theycome in, they do their job of
alerting us or expanding us orhealing us, and then they get
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excreted.
Those chemicals get excreted orunprocessed chemicals.
Those chemicals lay dormant inour body, in our consciousness,
in our sense of self.
(20:14):
And so I didn't know that I hadbeen traumatized.
Yeah, had been traumatized,yeah, but years later, in the
midst of forging my career, inthe midst of being successful, I
had one moment that triggeredthat fifth grade moment.
(20:38):
And when it triggered the fifthgrade moment, I literally went
through more than a decade,probably two decades, being in a
struggle with regulation orhaving self-agency when it came
(21:03):
to auditions, and I could alwayswill myself through it, I could
get through it and I could keepbooking jobs, but it was will,
which means that that fear thatwas already stuck inside was
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only getting more and more suck.
More and more energy was beingfunneled into it, because
everything that I was doing, Iwas doing from fear.
I was doing from white knuckles, I was doing in a in a, from
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the energy of survival.
Alethea Felton (21:57):
I'm just sitting here processing all of that, in
that I think about even timesin my life.
And for the, for the premisesof the podcast, I will say we
and our but yes, yes, yes.
It's kind of a inside thing thatin the inner fitness community
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we take ownership for everything, so we use I language.
But what I'd like to say isjust the envisioning even when
you describe it, of you standingin that spotlight and just
being frozen.
It makes me think of how manyof us, on a day-to-day basis or
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at some point in our life, staystuck and frozen and paralyzed
when we already have what'sinside of us and the capability
of doing it, certain roadblocksand confronting barriers within
ourselves is that you've spokenabout written, about how we can
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sometimes disconnect fromourselves in terms of
self-judgment, giving ourselvesaway to others.
Sometimes we get into thatwhole comparison trap.
But what is one way, especiallyas you've written this book and
your research, and just withyour experiences of working with
(23:30):
so many people as well asyourself, tina?
What is a way that people canunconsciously block their own
well-being and how can theyshift out of it?
Tina Lifford (23:44):
Yeah, beautiful question.
The blocking part is we takeone moment in our lives and we
turn it into a mountain, we turnit into who we are, we ruminate
on it, we replay it, we hate it, we try to avoid it, we run
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from it, we let it tell us weare broken that one moment.
My experience on that stage wasprobably, you know, less than
three minutes, five at the most,and it has used decades of my
(24:38):
life.
Now I'm going to get back tothat at the end, because now I'm
I'm grateful for that right,yeah right.
So so that's how we get there.
We get to this, this frozen,disconnected place, because we
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take one moment and we give itso much energy to live, so much
attention, time, heart, all ofthat, and we make it, we help it
literally breathe, and we dothat, which is why the
revolution is so important.
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We do that out of ignorance.
We do that because that's howour nervous system has been
wired.
If you think about us, not justin terms of who you see in the
(25:42):
mirror now, but we have withinus the journey of evolution.
The entire journey of evolutionis encoded in our DNA and
within that journey, long beforewe became human beings, life
(26:03):
had to be super smart and inbeing super smart, life had to
look for danger and avert it,avoid it.
Ways that fight, fight orfreeze that they talk about,
(26:47):
that your enemy doesn't see youand attack you Right, I fight,
or you can run.
That's right.
You can run and this is thefirst time that I've thought
about this but literally fight,flight or freeze is not just
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what we have learned to do fromthis evolutionary perspective,
but it's what we are doinginside with ourselves.
Where those traumas areconcerned, that's true, we are
fighting them, we are runningfrom them and they are, and when
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we can't take it anymore, weliterally are paralyzed.
Alethea Felton (27:42):
Yeah.
Tina Lifford (27:43):
Wow, I know about that before right.
Alethea Felton (27:46):
Yeah, and that is a revelation even to me,
because there are certain things, even though I've done, and I'm
doing the work and thepractices, I'm even thinking
about certain things, I'mfreezing on that.
I need to just move past.
And the only reason is me, andit's from that fear living in
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that surviving self, and it'sthe fear of what if this
actually turns out to be reallygood, and I'm like, oh, I got to
stop doing that.
But it makes me really reallythink.
And so, when you were goingthrough this process of writing
the inner fitness revolution,suppose someone cause a lot of
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readers.
This is going to be their firsttime even encountering this
work.
What do you want people to getthe most out of from this book?
Tina Lifford (28:44):
Yeah, yeah, it's a great question, because the our
default to survival is soingrained that we call it normal
.
We don't even, we don't evenknow that that's what we're
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doing, right, because it's sonormal, it's normalized, it's
the only thing that we've known.
Heck, it's what our ancestors,ancestors, ancestors did, right,
it's what life was doing tosurvive before it became you
(29:28):
know it, it, it adapted and wentdown the branch of, you know,
humanness, humanness, uh-huh,right, yeah, uh-huh.
So that means we live with avery narrow idea of self, that
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it includes all of the powerthat comes from the thriving and
the infinite range in us, and Idon't have to convince you of
this power.
There's evidence of iteverywhere.
Movement on the planet that isdriven by a small number of
people in comparison, it wasable to root itself and gain
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traction.
Why?
Because the thriving part of us, the infinite part of us, the
thriving part, if worried out infear, sort of, gives us context
for the surviving self.
Then hope, possibility and asense of a future, sense of
being, of having meaning, allowsus to confront those more
limited ideas of ourselves.
Yeah, and so the first thingthat the revolution is doing is
it's expanding our sense of self.
You are more than you'reworried out in fear.
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You are more than the bills.
You are more than thenegativity that courses through
your mind and tries to defineyou.
You are more.
That is the smallest part ofyou, but it is the most
practiced.
Alethea Felton (31:48):
Yes, and with you saying this word practiced I
wanted to bring that up.
I said earlier I have and I ampracticing, and you use this
term practiced and throughoutthe book and you use this term
practice and throughout the bookyou talk about the practices
for inner health and well-beingand there are 14 practices.
(32:10):
I don't want you to share allof those practices because
people, we're going to tell youhow to buy this book, how to
support it and how to get it.
But let's shift briefly andtalk about the importance of
being practiced.
And I say that, tina, becausethere's a quote I love and it
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says don't judge my story basedon the chapter you walked in on,
meaning that sometimes peoplecan see a person and think they
have it all together and oh mygoodness, they're so this and
that, without really knowing thehealth and well-being.
What does it take for a personto even begin their journey of
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inner fitness toward beingpracticed so that they are aware
of themselves even more?
Tina Lifford (33:23):
Yeah, beautiful.
So you know, one of the thingsthat is our goal at the Inner
Fitness Project is to make thisstuff understandable, practical
and actionable.
So I try to keep it reallysimple and my simple answer is
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anytime you feel some kind ofyour you know, crawl up into
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your head and into your heart,just say I am more than this.
I am more than this because wehave to remind ourselves that
there's more to us than thishabit of surviving.
Yes.
So we just say I'm more thanthis, I'm more than this.
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And every single time you sayI'm more than this, if you pay
attention, you will feelsomething in your heart that
feels like a yes, I am more thanthis, yes, I'm more than this.
Yeah, say it again, I am morethan this.
(34:52):
Right, In fact, I invite yourlisteners to say right, this
moment, I am more than this, andexperience for yourself the
subtle expansion or hope or yesthat you feel in your body.
And then, because we are nowsaying you are more than this,
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now we want to give you astrategy for connecting to the
more that you are Right.
So, if you are more than this,then what are you?
And if you're more than thisand saying I'm more than this
feels good.
How do we keep that goodfeeling going and expand it,
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that good feeling going andexpand it?
And so the Inner FitnessProject has lots of prompts,
tools, practices, actions,workshops, etc.
But the 14 practices that youmentioned, which are at the core
of the book the Inner FitnessRevolution, each one of those
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practices ultimately connectsyou to the idea that you are
more.
Alethea Felton (36:14):
It certainly does, you know.
Tina Lifford (36:16):
Yes, and that's the whole point.
If you go to a gym, you do thesame exercises over and over and
over again and you don't reallytire of them because they are
doing their job.
Those exercises are helping youhave that muscle strength that
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you want, that endurance thatyou want, that stamina that you
want, that physique that youwant, and so the repetition
becomes a gift.
The repetition is thecelebration.
Right, I'm going to go do myreps today, because my reps are
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giving me that experience that Imost want, which is the
experience of my physical formin these ways that I value.
And so we are doing the samething at Inner Fitness.
Truth is truth and it doesn'tjump around.
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And if the truth is that youare more and that that feeling,
in and of itself amplified,actually creates more space
inside of you for healing, morespace inside of you for
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understanding yourself andhaving love and compassion for
yourself, if the feeling thatgoes with I am more has all of
that power in it, then we wantto practice these practices as
often as necessary to keep togrow that experience and keep it
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expanding.
Alethea Felton (38:13):
Indeed, and the more that you practice them,
they become a way of living, away of being.
They just happen without evenreally thinking about them.
And I can say this you all andthis is not Tina at all, this is
all me.
(38:33):
Nowadays, in 2025, from whatI've seen, we hear all of these
people and experts saying knowyour worth and love yourself.
That's great, that's absolutelywonderful with the work they're
doing.
But the point I want you all toreally understand Tina was
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doing this work even before itbecame trendy, and there is
something to it where I can saypersonally, although I grew up
in the church, I love God.
All of that.
This is no disrespect and nottaking away from anything.
What makes this interview sospecial is because I am a part
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of this community and I knowfirsthand that these principles
and practices Tina writes in herbook work if you practice them
and you apply them.
Ever since I joined InnerFitness, my life has transformed
exponentially, and it's nohocus pocus, it's no quick fix.
(39:41):
No, I had to come true tomyself and who I am, and so this
question for you, tina, is ifyou could put into your own
words for someone who reads theinner fitness revolution,
applies the practices and beginsto transform.
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How could life look differentfor them on the other side?
A?
Tina Lifford (40:07):
sense of self that knows you're worthy.
A sense of self that empowersyour right to show up as your
(40:34):
authentic self, so you don'thave to dance and juggle and do
whatever is necessary to beacceptable to the world out
there.
You begin to understand thatbeing yourself is you fulfilling
the purpose of you and thenleaning into the idea that you
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have innate purpose and worth.
It's being able to haveself-agency, to say this is who
I am, this is what I want tohave the resilience, the ability
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to encounter life lifing and tonot take it personally Ever.
Ever that's big, ever that's bigTo meet up with people whose
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agendas are nefarious, whoseintentions are devilish, and to
feel like you have a personalpower and connection that gives
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you the strength necessary tonot just be in that space but to
be in that space and to let itgrow you into more of your power
, inner fitness.
You know, I had a conversationwith someone earlier before this
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call, and they were dealingwith a difficult marriage.
Were dealing with a difficultmarriage, and she said something
like you know, I'm having a lotof difficulty managing my
marriage.
And I said to her what if youstarted managing your joy?
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You started managing your joy.
What if you sat down with apiece of paper and you
identified what kind of marriagewould make you joyful?
What are you doing and who areyou being in the marriage?
(43:18):
How are the two of youcommunicating what happens when
you find yourself, you know, ata crossroads or a conflict in
your you know, imagined scenario, your best possible imagined
scenario?
What happens when you findyourself in these very natural
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and human circumstances withyour mate?
Yes, get clear about that andthen use your voice and your
intention and work with yourpartner to create the joy that
you both want.
That's right.
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And if he's not interested orshe's not interested in being in
a joyous relationship whereeach person gets to show up as
they are and you all don'texpect perfection from one
another, from one another.
(44:27):
You just seek the freedom andself-agency and self-love to be
able to show up in the momentand speak to your needs or
communicate and resolve.
You know, at least in thesharing you know you feel heard
and seen and safe.
So inner fitness gives you aconnection to yourself that
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allows you to dare to be morejoyous, be more free, to be as
connected to the world that'sright as the world allows you to
be.
Some people aren't going to wantto have.
You have a voice and you get tomake a choice about that.
(45:17):
Make a choice about that.
But when you have a visionabout what freedom and joy are
for you, then you can bring thatvision and self-agency.
You bring that vision with you.
You talk about that vision withothers.
(45:37):
You share yourself freely,courageously.
That's right.
Alethea Felton (45:44):
Yeah, it's so empowering.
It is empowering work, becauseI know that for me, the
empowerment piece came, that Idon't have to sit around and
wait for anybody else.
I can do this on my own.
It's my life, and I think thatsometimes I have encountered
(46:07):
others who wait around forchange to happen yes, and don't
realize the magnitude of thepower that they have to truly
transform themselves.
Tina Lifford (46:22):
They don't realize that they are the change.
Alethea Felton (46:25):
Yes.
Tina Lifford (46:26):
Yes, we can't.
The only way we can get overthere is by us moving ourselves
there.
Alethea Felton (46:39):
No matter what's happening to us, around us,
whatever.
That is what is so empowering.
And we're about to wrap up soon.
I just have a couple of morequestions, but let's just take a
pause here to say okay, thebook's coming out.
I want to say March 11thcorrect me if I'm wrong right,
(46:59):
march 11th.
How can people pre-order thebook and place orders?
Could you give us thatinformation please?
Tina Lifford (47:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you can pre-order the book at
any bookseller, at anybookseller.
So you know Barnes and NoblesAmazon book anywhere.
Alethea Felton (47:24):
Yeah.
Tina Lifford (47:26):
Okay, If if you go to our website, which is the
inner fitness projectcom.
Alethea Felton (47:34):
Yes, and I'll put the links Okay.
Tina Lifford (47:37):
And hit book.
Then you can, you can pre-orderthrough our page and you will
also get a seven card deck,called the Seven Laws of Self,
of the tools in this book thathelp you to understand the
(48:03):
relationship with yourself thatyou are aiming for Right, it
helps you stay in alignment withhonoring and elevating yourself
.
And yeah, so that's's, that'show you, and I do encourage you
(48:23):
to preorder, because those sevencards you can, you can download
them onto your computer andjust randomly say OK, so which
of the laws am I going to walkwith today and pull a card in
there.
Alethea Felton (48:44):
Yes, exactly, exactly.
And let me also say you all toanyone listening or watching,
because I have male and femalesubscribers and just people in
general who are going to be newto this show or inner fitness
(49:06):
this work is genderless, okay.
It is not based on agegenderless, genderless, raceless
, socioeconomic, everythingRight, meaning that as long as
you are a human being breathingand living in this existence,
inner fitness is, for you, okay,and I say that with the most
(49:31):
respect.
Do not think that, oh, this isjust women's work or this is no,
this is a human, human workthat we are doing.
And, tina, if someone right nowlistening or watching this in
this moment, they're hearingthis and say this sounds great
(49:52):
and all, but I'm stuck, I'mbroken, I'm uncertain as to
where to even begin.
I want to get your book, I will, but I don't think this is
going to work.
What is one thing that they cando today, even before reading
(50:12):
the book, in order to starttheir own journey toward inner
fitness?
Tina Lifford (50:17):
Yeah, that's a beautiful question.
I'm going to offer two things.
One I've already offered Justsay to yourself I'm more than
this, and you won't.
You might not feel, if you'vebeen stuck for a long time, you
might not feel that you weremore than this, but one of our
(50:38):
favorite prompts is up until nowand from this point forward and
I guarantee you that if youtake this sentence, up until now
I have felt stuck or I havebeen stuck, but from this point
forward that can change for thebetter.
(51:00):
If you take whatever yoursticking point is, wherever your
doubt is, whatever your hurt is, and you insert it into up
until now this thing and youinsert your thing, but from this
point forward it can change forthe better you will feel the
(51:35):
truth of that statement.
There will be a part of yourbody, your spirit, that awakens.
Look for it.
Alethea Felton (51:40):
You will feel it .
Tina Lifford (51:41):
It'll be an impulse, it'll be a little, a
little elevation, and that saysthat you have just told yourself
the truth.
And if that truth can make itsway into your stuck space and
(52:02):
you can feel a tiny bit ofelevation, imagine what would
happen in an environment that iscompletely and utterly focused
on supporting people in havingmore and more of those elevated
(52:26):
experiences based upon the truthabout the power that lives
inside of them.
Alethea Felton (52:33):
That's right.
Tina Lifford (52:35):
And you know you, you said aletheia, um, you said
that this is genderless and andageless and raceless, and bottom
line is just think aboutphysical fitness yeah, there are
no, there are no limits, limits.
(52:56):
You know, there are no limitsto who physical fitness is for,
and there's no limits to who anawakened sense of self is for.
A strengthened sense of self isfor.
Alethea Felton (53:21):
Closing question .
Tina Lifford (53:25):
I love your questions, by the way.
Alethea Felton (53:26):
Thank you Thank.
You See, I'm just always.
Tina Lifford (53:29):
They're so good.
Alethea Felton (53:30):
This is a beautiful conversation, the
closing question for one one,because there's many, but what
is one of the greatest ways thatinner fitness, although you
created it, founded it, etcetera?
(53:50):
What is one of the greatestways inner fitness has
transformed your life?
Tina Lifford (53:57):
Oh, it transforms my life daily and almost moment
to moment.
Because I followed this thing,you know, this desire to expand
out of my own challenges.
(54:19):
I prioritized trying to figurethat out long before we had the
benefits of neuroscience to thedegree that we do now.
I put in enormous effort and inthe coming book I use effort as
(54:42):
an acronym and it's extractingfreedom from our restricted
thinking.
So when I see all these peoplein the community loving
(55:03):
themselves, not putting me on apedestal, because that's not the
kind of community theInterfaith Project is.
It is built so that each personcan discover themselves, their
own purposefulness and an innatevalue, and flower, literally
(55:31):
expand into who they are.
See someone in the communitymove from a restricted space
into a more expanded space andthen again into a more expanded
space and again into a moreexpanded space, I feel honored.
(55:58):
But I also am grateful that Ihad the stamina to do the work
to get us here.
Alethea Felton (56:14):
And I, too am so glad that you did.
It has truly changed my lifeand it has been an honor having
you today, and I'm so glad thatthat little girl who froze on
stage did not freeze in life,but rather chose to continue to
move forward and not just toshift her world, but to shift,
(56:36):
expand and change the lives ofso many others.
Tina Liffer, or Miss Tina, as Iaffectionately call you, it has
been an honor having you on thePower Transformation podcast
and, please you all, the InnerFitness Revolution released
March 11, 2025.
(56:58):
You have time to get itPre-order, pre-orderorder, and
get more than one copy, butthank you again for being on our
show today.
It has been truly my pleasure.
Tina Lifford (57:10):
It has been my pleasure, alethea, thank you so
much for having me.
Alethea Felton (57:13):
Thank you for tuning in to this episode of the
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(57:36):
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Until next time, keep bouncingback, keep rising and be good to
yourself and to others.
I am interviewing one of my mentors
today and I couldn't be moreexcited.
Tina Lifford is our veryspecial guest today on the Power
Transformation podcast.
She is a Hollywood actress, sheis founder of the Inner Fitness
Project, she is a best-sellingauthor and so much more, and she
(00:34):
has a new book being releasedMarch 11th the Inner Fitness
Revolution and this is what ourtalk is all about today.
I have been a part of the innerfitness community for a few
years now, and it is aclose-knit group of us who are
(00:55):
intentional about practicing andnurturing our mental, emotional
and spiritual well-being justas we would do our physical body
.
And Tina Lifford is one of themost humble, giving,
kind-hearted, wise women that Ihave ever encountered in my life
(01:16):
, and she has truly made adifference in my life, and I am
excited to jump into thisinterview with her today.
So welcome to the PowerTransformation Podcast.
I am your host, alethea Felton,and I also have some wonderful
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It is truly transformational.
As customary here, we alwayslike to begin with a positive
(02:28):
affirmation.
I'm going to say theaffirmation once, and then you
repeat it and we will get rightinto this interview with Tina
Lifford.
I am more than enough, andenough in every way.
I cannot begin to tell you allwhat an honor it is to have this
guest on the PowerTransformation podcast.
(02:50):
She is an incredible humanbeing in my life and I would
like to welcome Tina Lifford.
Welcome, tina.
Tina Lifford (03:00):
Hey there, alethea , how are you?
Alethea Felton (03:03):
I'm doing.
Well, this is going to be anice conversation because we
already know each other and I'mtelling you, you all, if you
don't know about Tina now, youwill know after this interview,
because she is changing the faceand the course of the world
(03:23):
through the work that she does.
And so let's just go ahead andfirst start with a fun,
lighthearted, icebreakerquestion.
And, tina, this is the questionfor you.
Suppose you had a day where youhad no appointments, no
schedules, no Zooms, calls oranything.
What would the perfect, idealday look like for you?
Tina Lifford (03:47):
Wow, it's going to sound crazy, but I live a lot
of ideal days because I like tojust I like to just contemplate
my navel, I like to think aboutthe universe, I like to think
(04:12):
about limitations and how tomove beyond them.
You know how you lay on thebeach sometimes and just let
your mind drift.
I had some experiences when Iwas younger that let me know
that there's so much more thanwhat we can see disappear from
(04:42):
my habits and my limited ways ofthinking and find myself in a
whole new, more expanded being.
Alethea Felton (04:56):
Think about that all the time.
Yeah, I like when you say yourexpanded way of being, because I
think that sometimes peopleonly think of themselves as this
one aspect.
But I have come to know that weare multi-layered,
multi-faceted individuals, andthat leads me to asking you a
(05:20):
question that may seem complex,but you can answer it in any way
that you like.
Who is Tina Lifford?
Tina Lifford (05:51):
Oh, that's a fantastic.
Rooted to a universalconsciousness.
I'm going to say it again I aman idea in the mind of universal
consciousness, given the giftof form this body and operating
(06:20):
from the body, but rooted tosomething greater.
That's who I am.
Alethea Felton (06:30):
So then a person could ask well, does that
something greater mean?
It's a physical God, or is itenergy, or is it spirit?
How would you respond to that?
Tina Lifford (06:40):
I would say that there is clearly and undeniably
an intelligence that backs thisentire world.
You know, and I can't even sayworld as we know it.
(07:02):
I can say as we know it becausewhat we know about it is
minuscule compared to what it is.
And so the intelligence thatallows this to operate as it
does with such precision, suchintentionality, that is what I'm
(07:33):
speaking of, and to Indeed, andI will tell you that science
says and I'm not a person whoemphasizes science as though the
it's the be all or the bottomline, because science is a work
(07:54):
in progress.
Science is only as scientificas the minds that have been able
to contemplate or understand upuntil now.
You, know that's why when westarted with Newtonian science,
you know we didn't know anythingabout quantum science or
(08:16):
quantum physics.
So we're all in this state ofexpanding into an understanding.
Infinitely, yes, because whatwe are in is an infinite
consciousness, or intelligence,or being, however you want to
(08:39):
call it.
And I would say, alethea, thatone of my growing superpowers is
that I about who I am and whatis so and what is right.
Alethea Felton (09:13):
Wow, and those limiting ideas.
Now I want to start to dig alittle bit deeper here, because
I know what that means.
Deeper here, because I knowwhat that means because I'm a
part of a huge portion of thework you do, based on what I've
learned from you.
But let's break this down evenmore.
(09:35):
You have been on a missionpractically for over four
decades, tina, to make somethingcalled inner fitness as
understood and actionable asphysical fitness.
I think in our society,physical fitness and working out
(09:56):
and looking great has beenemphasized, which is good.
However, inner fitness is atrue game changer, and so tell
us briefly what exactly is innerfitness?
And then, when was the momentthat made you realize that this
(10:18):
work about inner fitnessactually needed to be a
revolution?
Tina Lifford (10:24):
Yeah, great question, thank you.
So inner fitness is?
It's the inverse of physicalfitness, where we strengthen the
body.
Inner fitness exercises andstrengthens the inner self our
(10:49):
thoughts, feelings and beliefswhich drives our actions and
reactions.
And inner fitness is, you know,it talks about having a mental
and emotional resilience, ittalks about having self-agency
and it talks about beingself-aware, which is an ongoing
(11:14):
process.
Inner fitness and I so love howyou set it up fitness, and I so
love how you set it up we havebeen taught to externalize our
(11:35):
sense of self.
Our sense of self starts outthere, with the people we know,
or the external achievements oraccomplishments, or the success,
the money, the fame, thewhatever we get identified by
that stuff.
Inner fitness is shifting theconversation from the external
(12:02):
to the internal.
It acknowledges that all ofthose external things exist and
have their place and areimportant.
But what inner fitness does?
It actually acknowledges thatbefore there's all of that stuff
(12:23):
, there is an inner self andthat inner self drives all of
that stuff out there.
That inner self is our thoughts, our feelings and our beliefs
and how they run through ourbody.
(12:43):
And if we don't have anunderstanding and a empowering
understanding of ourselves, wewind up living lives that
default to worry, doubt, fearand survival instincts survival
instincts.
But the truth is, when we payattention and become aware of
(13:09):
who we are inside, as you saidat the very beginning, we
discover that there's thismulti-layered, very expansive
being within us.
Expansive being within us, andwe get to learn that within that
(13:29):
range we have a surviving self,a thriving self, and the part
of us that knows and leans intoits connection to this infinite
field, and that's what sciencecalls it, this underlying field
(13:50):
that connects everything.
Alethea Felton (13:53):
And you had a book that was very highly
successful, the little book ofbig lies, but in terms of inner
fitness, that's an entirecommunity.
It's a project, it's so muchmore.
But what led you, tina, toreally saying I want to take
(14:14):
this concept of inner fitnessgreater and I want to
revolutionize it?
When did that aha, come to you?
Tina Lifford (14:23):
Yeah yeah.
Fantastic question, Gosh.
I would say that some versionof this impulse has been in me
(14:49):
as early as my teens.
I am very grateful that therewas a part of me that was
connected enough to somethinginside that I could listen.
(15:13):
You know, we all have littleurges, we all have desires or
little visions about who we wantto become or what we want to do
.
And mine, mine, had to do withacting.
And why did I wanna act?
Because I wanted to tell peoplestories, right.
(15:34):
And then wanting to tell peoplestories also meant wanting to
really understand people so thatI could tell their stories, and
that morphed into reallywanting to understand myself.
(15:57):
And in the fifth grade I sharein both my books show and I mean
people knew me at school but Ididn't consider myself a popular
person.
Ah okay, but I, you know, I wasin the space you know, I showed
(16:24):
up so up, so I showed up.
You know I showed up wherever Iwas Right.
And on the day of the firsttime I knew what the order was.
(16:48):
And when I looked at that pieceof paper and saw that my name
was first on the list, I went.
oh with fear and, unbeknownst tome, that was fear.
And because I didn't know itwas fear, because I didn't know
(17:11):
how to release it, that fear gotstuck inside of me when I
actually stepped on the stage.
There was these pieces of methat were worried about the
(17:31):
experience, that were in somelevel of worried out and fear,
without me even really beingconscious of it.
There was just a I just Iwanted to go second or, you know
, third or whatever, Right.
So by the time I stepped on thestage, Alethea, I didn't know
(17:57):
it, but I was in full blown fear.
So I started to sing Old manRiver.
I got out.
Old man river.
I got out oh man River.
Alethea Felton (18:12):
Never said another word.
Tina Lifford (18:16):
Literally frozen.
Frozen to the point thateverything was black.
Yes, we were in an auditoriumand the lights were down, but
everything was black except forthis beaming white light that
(18:36):
was, you know, the spotlight.
Alethea Felton (18:39):
The spotlight, yeah, Like yeah.
Tina Lifford (18:42):
And I was so frozen that I could hear the
pianist trying to help me, andultimately, my teacher had to
come to center stage, pick me upand take me off, you know, to
(19:03):
the wings.
And I knew in the second gradethat I wanted to be an actress.
And so here I am with thisexperience and all of this
unrecognized, stuck energy,stuck fear inside of me.
Fear inside of me.
(19:30):
And what we know about the bodytoday is that fear, or all
emotions, have a chemicalequivalent and all emotions, if
they are working properly, theycome in, they do their job of
alerting us or expanding us orhealing us, and then they get
(19:52):
excreted.
Those chemicals get excreted orunprocessed chemicals.
Those chemicals lay dormant inour body, in our consciousness,
in our sense of self.
(20:14):
And so I didn't know that I hadbeen traumatized.
Yeah, had been traumatized,yeah, but years later, in the
midst of forging my career, inthe midst of being successful, I
had one moment that triggeredthat fifth grade moment.
(20:38):
And when it triggered the fifthgrade moment, I literally went
through more than a decade,probably two decades, being in a
struggle with regulation orhaving self-agency when it came
(21:03):
to auditions, and I could alwayswill myself through it, I could
get through it and I could keepbooking jobs, but it was will,
which means that that fear thatwas already stuck inside was
(21:24):
only getting more and more suck.
More and more energy was beingfunneled into it, because
everything that I was doing, Iwas doing from fear.
I was doing from white knuckles, I was doing in a in a, from
(21:50):
the energy of survival.
Alethea Felton (21:57):
I'm just sitting here processing all of that, in
that I think about even timesin my life.
And for the, for the premisesof the podcast, I will say we
and our but yes, yes, yes.
It's kind of a inside thing thatin the inner fitness community
(22:22):
we take ownership for everything, so we use I language.
But what I'd like to say isjust the envisioning even when
you describe it, of you standingin that spotlight and just
being frozen.
It makes me think of how manyof us, on a day-to-day basis or
(22:45):
at some point in our life, staystuck and frozen and paralyzed
when we already have what'sinside of us and the capability
of doing it, certain roadblocksand confronting barriers within
ourselves is that you've spokenabout written, about how we can
(23:09):
sometimes disconnect fromourselves in terms of
self-judgment, giving ourselvesaway to others.
Sometimes we get into thatwhole comparison trap.
But what is one way, especiallyas you've written this book and
your research, and just withyour experiences of working with
(23:30):
so many people as well asyourself, tina?
What is a way that people canunconsciously block their own
well-being and how can theyshift out of it?
Tina Lifford (23:44):
Yeah, beautiful question.
The blocking part is we takeone moment in our lives and we
turn it into a mountain, we turnit into who we are, we ruminate
on it, we replay it, we hate it, we try to avoid it, we run
(24:11):
from it, we let it tell us weare broken that one moment.
My experience on that stage wasprobably, you know, less than
three minutes, five at the most,and it has used decades of my
(24:38):
life.
Now I'm going to get back tothat at the end, because now I'm
I'm grateful for that right,yeah right.
So so that's how we get there.
We get to this, this frozen,disconnected place, because we
(25:01):
take one moment and we give itso much energy to live, so much
attention, time, heart, all ofthat, and we make it, we help it
literally breathe, and we dothat, which is why the
revolution is so important.
(25:22):
We do that out of ignorance.
We do that because that's howour nervous system has been
wired.
If you think about us, not justin terms of who you see in the
(25:42):
mirror now, but we have withinus the journey of evolution.
The entire journey of evolutionis encoded in our DNA and
within that journey, long beforewe became human beings, life
(26:03):
had to be super smart and inbeing super smart, life had to
look for danger and avert it,avoid it.
Ways that fight, fight orfreeze that they talk about,
(26:47):
that your enemy doesn't see youand attack you Right, I fight,
or you can run.
That's right.
You can run and this is thefirst time that I've thought
about this but literally fight,flight or freeze is not just
(27:11):
what we have learned to do fromthis evolutionary perspective,
but it's what we are doinginside with ourselves.
Where those traumas areconcerned, that's true, we are
fighting them, we are runningfrom them and they are, and when
(27:37):
we can't take it anymore, weliterally are paralyzed.
Alethea Felton (27:42):
Yeah.
Tina Lifford (27:43):
Wow, I know about that before right.
Alethea Felton (27:46):
Yeah, and that is a revelation even to me,
because there are certain things, even though I've done, and I'm
doing the work and thepractices, I'm even thinking
about certain things, I'mfreezing on that.
I need to just move past.
And the only reason is me, andit's from that fear living in
(28:10):
that surviving self, and it'sthe fear of what if this
actually turns out to be reallygood, and I'm like, oh, I got to
stop doing that.
But it makes me really reallythink.
And so, when you were goingthrough this process of writing
the inner fitness revolution,suppose someone cause a lot of
(28:33):
readers.
This is going to be their firsttime even encountering this
work.
What do you want people to getthe most out of from this book?
Tina Lifford (28:44):
Yeah, yeah, it's a great question, because the our
default to survival is soingrained that we call it normal
.
We don't even, we don't evenknow that that's what we're
(29:07):
doing, right, because it's sonormal, it's normalized, it's
the only thing that we've known.
Heck, it's what our ancestors,ancestors, ancestors did, right,
it's what life was doing tosurvive before it became you
(29:28):
know it, it, it adapted and wentdown the branch of, you know,
humanness, humanness, uh-huh,right, yeah, uh-huh.
So that means we live with avery narrow idea of self, that
(30:09):
it includes all of the powerthat comes from the thriving and
the infinite range in us, and Idon't have to convince you of
this power.
There's evidence of iteverywhere.
Movement on the planet that isdriven by a small number of
people in comparison, it wasable to root itself and gain
(31:05):
traction.
Why?
Because the thriving part of us, the infinite part of us, the
thriving part, if worried out infear, sort of, gives us context
for the surviving self.
Then hope, possibility and asense of a future, sense of
being, of having meaning, allowsus to confront those more
limited ideas of ourselves.
Yeah, and so the first thingthat the revolution is doing is
it's expanding our sense of self.
You are more than you'reworried out in fear.
(31:28):
You are more than the bills.
You are more than thenegativity that courses through
your mind and tries to defineyou.
You are more.
That is the smallest part ofyou, but it is the most
practiced.
Alethea Felton (31:48):
Yes, and with you saying this word practiced I
wanted to bring that up.
I said earlier I have and I ampracticing, and you use this
term practiced and throughoutthe book and you use this term
practice and throughout the bookyou talk about the practices
for inner health and well-beingand there are 14 practices.
(32:10):
I don't want you to share allof those practices because
people, we're going to tell youhow to buy this book, how to
support it and how to get it.
But let's shift briefly andtalk about the importance of
being practiced.
And I say that, tina, becausethere's a quote I love and it
(32:34):
says don't judge my story basedon the chapter you walked in on,
meaning that sometimes peoplecan see a person and think they
have it all together and oh mygoodness, they're so this and
that, without really knowing thehealth and well-being.
What does it take for a personto even begin their journey of
(33:14):
inner fitness toward beingpracticed so that they are aware
of themselves even more?
Tina Lifford (33:23):
Yeah, beautiful.
So you know, one of the thingsthat is our goal at the Inner
Fitness Project is to make thisstuff understandable, practical
and actionable.
So I try to keep it reallysimple and my simple answer is
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anytime you feel some kind ofyour you know, crawl up into
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your head and into your heart,just say I am more than this.
I am more than this because wehave to remind ourselves that
there's more to us than thishabit of surviving.
Yes.
So we just say I'm more thanthis, I'm more than this.
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And every single time you sayI'm more than this, if you pay
attention, you will feelsomething in your heart that
feels like a yes, I am more thanthis, yes, I'm more than this.
Yeah, say it again, I am morethan this.
(34:52):
Right, In fact, I invite yourlisteners to say right, this
moment, I am more than this, andexperience for yourself the
subtle expansion or hope or yesthat you feel in your body.
And then, because we are nowsaying you are more than this,
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now we want to give you astrategy for connecting to the
more that you are Right.
So, if you are more than this,then what are you?
And if you're more than thisand saying I'm more than this
feels good.
How do we keep that goodfeeling going and expand it,
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that good feeling going andexpand it?
And so the Inner FitnessProject has lots of prompts,
tools, practices, actions,workshops, etc.
But the 14 practices that youmentioned, which are at the core
of the book the Inner FitnessRevolution, each one of those
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practices ultimately connectsyou to the idea that you are
more.
Alethea Felton (36:14):
It certainly does, you know.
Tina Lifford (36:16):
Yes, and that's the whole point.
If you go to a gym, you do thesame exercises over and over and
over again and you don't reallytire of them because they are
doing their job.
Those exercises are helping youhave that muscle strength that
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you want, that endurance thatyou want, that stamina that you
want, that physique that youwant, and so the repetition
becomes a gift.
The repetition is thecelebration.
Right, I'm going to go do myreps today, because my reps are
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giving me that experience that Imost want, which is the
experience of my physical formin these ways that I value.
And so we are doing the samething at Inner Fitness.
Truth is truth and it doesn'tjump around.
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And if the truth is that youare more and that that feeling,
in and of itself amplified,actually creates more space
inside of you for healing, morespace inside of you for
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understanding yourself andhaving love and compassion for
yourself, if the feeling thatgoes with I am more has all of
that power in it, then we wantto practice these practices as
often as necessary to keep togrow that experience and keep it
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expanding.
Alethea Felton (38:13):
Indeed, and the more that you practice them,
they become a way of living, away of being.
They just happen without evenreally thinking about them.
And I can say this you all andthis is not Tina at all, this is
all me.
(38:33):
Nowadays, in 2025, from whatI've seen, we hear all of these
people and experts saying knowyour worth and love yourself.
That's great, that's absolutelywonderful with the work they're
doing.
But the point I want you all toreally understand Tina was
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doing this work even before itbecame trendy, and there is
something to it where I can saypersonally, although I grew up
in the church, I love God.
All of that.
This is no disrespect and nottaking away from anything.
What makes this interview sospecial is because I am a part
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of this community and I knowfirsthand that these principles
and practices Tina writes in herbook work if you practice them
and you apply them.
Ever since I joined InnerFitness, my life has transformed
exponentially, and it's nohocus pocus, it's no quick fix.
(39:41):
No, I had to come true tomyself and who I am, and so this
question for you, tina, is ifyou could put into your own
words for someone who reads theinner fitness revolution,
applies the practices and beginsto transform.
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How could life look differentfor them on the other side?
A?
Tina Lifford (40:07):
sense of self that knows you're worthy.
A sense of self that empowersyour right to show up as your
(40:34):
authentic self, so you don'thave to dance and juggle and do
whatever is necessary to beacceptable to the world out
there.
You begin to understand thatbeing yourself is you fulfilling
the purpose of you and thenleaning into the idea that you
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have innate purpose and worth.
It's being able to haveself-agency, to say this is who
I am, this is what I want tohave the resilience, the ability
(41:21):
to encounter life lifing and tonot take it personally Ever.
Ever that's big, ever that's bigTo meet up with people whose
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agendas are nefarious, whoseintentions are devilish, and to
feel like you have a personalpower and connection that gives
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you the strength necessary tonot just be in that space but to
be in that space and to let itgrow you into more of your power
, inner fitness.
You know, I had a conversationwith someone earlier before this
(42:33):
call, and they were dealingwith a difficult marriage.
Were dealing with a difficultmarriage, and she said something
like you know, I'm having a lotof difficulty managing my
marriage.
And I said to her what if youstarted managing your joy?
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You started managing your joy.
What if you sat down with apiece of paper and you
identified what kind of marriagewould make you joyful?
What are you doing and who areyou being in the marriage?
(43:18):
How are the two of youcommunicating what happens when
you find yourself, you know, ata crossroads or a conflict in
your you know, imagined scenario, your best possible imagined
scenario?
What happens when you findyourself in these very natural
(43:40):
and human circumstances withyour mate?
Yes, get clear about that andthen use your voice and your
intention and work with yourpartner to create the joy that
you both want.
That's right.
(44:00):
And if he's not interested orshe's not interested in being in
a joyous relationship whereeach person gets to show up as
they are and you all don'texpect perfection from one
another, from one another.
(44:27):
You just seek the freedom andself-agency and self-love to be
able to show up in the momentand speak to your needs or
communicate and resolve.
You know, at least in thesharing you know you feel heard
and seen and safe.
So inner fitness gives you aconnection to yourself that
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allows you to dare to be morejoyous, be more free, to be as
connected to the world that'sright as the world allows you to
be.
Some people aren't going to wantto have.
You have a voice and you get tomake a choice about that.
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Make a choice about that.
But when you have a visionabout what freedom and joy are
for you, then you can bring thatvision and self-agency.
You bring that vision with you.
You talk about that vision withothers.
(45:37):
You share yourself freely,courageously.
That's right.
Alethea Felton (45:44):
Yeah, it's so empowering.
It is empowering work, becauseI know that for me, the
empowerment piece came, that Idon't have to sit around and
wait for anybody else.
I can do this on my own.
It's my life, and I think thatsometimes I have encountered
(46:07):
others who wait around forchange to happen yes, and don't
realize the magnitude of thepower that they have to truly
transform themselves.
Tina Lifford (46:22):
They don't realize that they are the change.
Alethea Felton (46:25):
Yes.
Tina Lifford (46:26):
Yes, we can't.
The only way we can get overthere is by us moving ourselves
there.
Alethea Felton (46:39):
No matter what's happening to us, around us,
whatever.
That is what is so empowering.
And we're about to wrap up soon.
I just have a couple of morequestions, but let's just take a
pause here to say okay, thebook's coming out.
I want to say March 11thcorrect me if I'm wrong right,
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march 11th.
How can people pre-order thebook and place orders?
Could you give us thatinformation please?
Tina Lifford (47:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you can pre-order the book at
any bookseller, at anybookseller.
So you know Barnes and NoblesAmazon book anywhere.
Alethea Felton (47:24):
Yeah.
Tina Lifford (47:26):
Okay, If if you go to our website, which is the
inner fitness projectcom.
Alethea Felton (47:34):
Yes, and I'll put the links Okay.
Tina Lifford (47:37):
And hit book.
Then you can, you can pre-orderthrough our page and you will
also get a seven card deck,called the Seven Laws of Self,
of the tools in this book thathelp you to understand the
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relationship with yourself thatyou are aiming for Right, it
helps you stay in alignment withhonoring and elevating yourself
.
And yeah, so that's's, that'show you, and I do encourage you
(48:23):
to preorder, because those sevencards you can, you can download
them onto your computer andjust randomly say OK, so which
of the laws am I going to walkwith today and pull a card in
there.
Alethea Felton (48:44):
Yes, exactly, exactly.
And let me also say you all toanyone listening or watching,
because I have male and femalesubscribers and just people in
general who are going to be newto this show or inner fitness
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this work is genderless, okay.
It is not based on agegenderless, genderless, raceless
, socioeconomic, everythingRight, meaning that as long as
you are a human being breathingand living in this existence,
inner fitness is, for you, okay,and I say that with the most
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respect.
Do not think that, oh, this isjust women's work or this is no,
this is a human, human workthat we are doing.
And, tina, if someone right nowlistening or watching this in
this moment, they're hearingthis and say this sounds great
(49:52):
and all, but I'm stuck, I'mbroken, I'm uncertain as to
where to even begin.
I want to get your book, I will, but I don't think this is
going to work.
What is one thing that they cando today, even before reading
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the book, in order to starttheir own journey toward inner
fitness?
Tina Lifford (50:17):
Yeah, that's a beautiful question.
I'm going to offer two things.
One I've already offered Justsay to yourself I'm more than
this, and you won't.
You might not feel, if you'vebeen stuck for a long time, you
might not feel that you weremore than this, but one of our
(50:38):
favorite prompts is up until nowand from this point forward and
I guarantee you that if youtake this sentence, up until now
I have felt stuck or I havebeen stuck, but from this point
forward that can change for thebetter.
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If you take whatever yoursticking point is, wherever your
doubt is, whatever your hurt is, and you insert it into up
until now this thing and youinsert your thing, but from this
point forward it can change forthe better you will feel the
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truth of that statement.
There will be a part of yourbody, your spirit, that awakens.
Look for it.
Alethea Felton (51:40):
You will feel it .
Tina Lifford (51:41):
It'll be an impulse, it'll be a little, a
little elevation, and that saysthat you have just told yourself
the truth.
And if that truth can make itsway into your stuck space and
(52:02):
you can feel a tiny bit ofelevation, imagine what would
happen in an environment that iscompletely and utterly focused
on supporting people in havingmore and more of those elevated
(52:26):
experiences based upon the truthabout the power that lives
inside of them.
Alethea Felton (52:33):
That's right.
Tina Lifford (52:35):
And you know you, you said aletheia, um, you said
that this is genderless and andageless and raceless, and bottom
line is just think aboutphysical fitness yeah, there are
no, there are no limits, limits.
(52:56):
You know, there are no limitsto who physical fitness is for,
and there's no limits to who anawakened sense of self is for.
A strengthened sense of self isfor.
Alethea Felton (53:21):
Closing question .
Tina Lifford (53:25):
I love your questions, by the way.
Alethea Felton (53:26):
Thank you Thank.
You See, I'm just always.
Tina Lifford (53:29):
They're so good.
Alethea Felton (53:30):
This is a beautiful conversation, the
closing question for one one,because there's many, but what
is one of the greatest ways thatinner fitness, although you
created it, founded it, etcetera?
(53:50):
What is one of the greatestways inner fitness has
transformed your life?
Tina Lifford (53:57):
Oh, it transforms my life daily and almost moment
to moment.
Because I followed this thing,you know, this desire to expand
out of my own challenges.
(54:19):
I prioritized trying to figurethat out long before we had the
benefits of neuroscience to thedegree that we do now.
I put in enormous effort and inthe coming book I use effort as
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an acronym and it's extractingfreedom from our restricted
thinking.
So when I see all these peoplein the community loving
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themselves, not putting me on apedestal, because that's not the
kind of community theInterfaith Project is.
It is built so that each personcan discover themselves, their
own purposefulness and an innatevalue, and flower, literally
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expand into who they are.
See someone in the communitymove from a restricted space
into a more expanded space andthen again into a more expanded
space and again into a moreexpanded space, I feel honored.
(55:58):
But I also am grateful that Ihad the stamina to do the work
to get us here.
Alethea Felton (56:14):
And I, too am so glad that you did.
It has truly changed my lifeand it has been an honor having
you today, and I'm so glad thatthat little girl who froze on
stage did not freeze in life,but rather chose to continue to
move forward and not just toshift her world, but to shift,
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expand and change the lives ofso many others.
Tina Liffer, or Miss Tina, as Iaffectionately call you, it has
been an honor having you on thePower Transformation podcast
and, please you all, the InnerFitness Revolution released
March 11, 2025.
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You have time to get itPre-order, pre-orderorder, and
get more than one copy, butthank you again for being on our
show today.
It has been truly my pleasure.
Tina Lifford (57:10):
It has been my pleasure, alethea, thank you so
much for having me.
Alethea Felton (57:13):
Thank you for tuning in to this episode of the
Power Transformation Podcast.
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Until next time, keep bouncingback, keep rising and be good to
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