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Speaker 1 (00:01):
On this episode of the Powerspoint Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
With school ending and the temperatures rising,

(00:29):
we're thinking about one thingSummer 2025, powers Point
Podcast, season 5, episode 20.
This episode should be calledthe Boys Are Back in Town
because it's been a few weeks.
This episode should be calledthe Boys Are Back in Town
because it's been a few weeks.
The last podcast you guys heardis Keith pulling off a solo

(00:53):
Kiss album and knocking one outjust to get us content.
So it sounded good, People digit and they appreciate the sound
effects and the swearing thatyou bleeped out, because he made
like a bouncing ball.
You know, like every time thathe would swear, he would censor

(01:15):
himself and he edited the show.
So all I had to do is upload it, man.
So that was a great touch.
But I missed you guys, man.
And before I get to you guys,I'm Scott Powers, and if you're
joining us for the first time,see, it's been so long since
we've done it, man, I'm all outof whack.
But if you're joining us forthe first time, hey, we

(01:37):
appreciate it and welcome to thefamily.
And for those that are tuningin and following us and
listening every week, we stillappreciate you and tell your
friends about us and let's getmore family members in With me.
As always, we got Jim Banks,howdy, howdy, howdy and Keith

(02:00):
Mackey.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
It's good to have the boys back Seeking in the void.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
All right guys.
What have you been up to, bothof you?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I've been recording podcasts by myself.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
You're sounding sad and echoey.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Correct and no other than that.
You see, we got us a brand newaddition to the family.
We brought Lord Julius into thefamily and, uh, we brought uh
lord julius into the family,who's a beautiful little teacup.
Chihuahua, little girl boy thelittle man.
He's gonna rule the house even,even, uh dally's getting used
to him the reign of julius hasbegun yeah, that's right, that's

(02:41):
right if you think leaders arebad elsewhere, where do you see
julius?
Yeah, he's already dictating,that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Better not be breaking no treats man, he's
going to be suing you.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I told him that he should have named the dog
Biggest Dickest from the life ofBrian, but that would have been
good too, and Keith got him ona whim.
Right, it's totally on plan.
You just threw that dog, uh,the little cute dog's picture,

(03:13):
up on the thing and I was likewhoa, that's not dally yeah, so
yeah at the top of the hour, wedidn't know he existed.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
At the top of the next hour, he was in the house
oh my gosh, yeah, and, and heknew that you're like what's
that stuck in my shoe?

Speaker 2 (03:28):
oh, it's a dog yeah, and he knew that if, uh, if he
told me about it and theyweren't going to get it, I would
have swapped up in toledo areaand grabbed it wow, yeah, so we
knew he was.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
He was either way.
I kind of feel like, uh, juliusgot the short end of the stick
staying here.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Aw, he should be somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Right, we'll show him pictures later, but here's
where you could have wound up.
Bud Chihuahua happened, but nowyou're here.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
So, as Jim said before, the intro temperature's
rising grills are smoking Grills, not girls.
Oh, and they are too.
They are too, If you're.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
One that's beaking currently.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, so we got all that going.
We got the grass cutting.
That's like two times a weekfor me lately.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
And it's I don't know Karen likes keeping it pristine
, so I I go out there and cutthe fronts and uh, yeah, well,
you gotta do what you can do so.
We'll be talking about thatafter the commercial.
But come on, guys, it's beenweeks.
What else have you guys been upto man so far?

(04:45):
Jimmy, almost out of school.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, he's only got Monday and Tuesday next week,
that's it.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
See, why not finish on a Monday.
I always hated that, and youknow you've already turned your
books in and you just go thereand sit there and BS or watch a
movie.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Well, they had, like, what was that recently?
This whole last 10 days they'vebeen doing like special days,
like bring a stuffed animal day,or camping day or beach day, or
like teach the teacher day.
Like he just had, wednesday wasTeach the Teacher Day and he

(05:27):
brought, he wanted to teach herabout the periodic table.
So he had a poster with theperiodic table, a book to show
her what they look like.
And he brought, like he hasthis plexiglass, this rectangle,
and it has all the elements inthere that you can have at home.
They're literally in there.

(05:51):
Yeah, there's little, tiny,little bit of everything.
Wow, that is cool.
It was a trust thing because itcosts so much money.
And I'm like, dude, do not lose.
This, cost so much money.
And I'm like, dude, do not losethis, because this is going to
help him, like, uh, take stepsto getting a uh what's it called
?
A uh cell phone in a coupleyears or whatever okay.

(06:13):
I'm like this is a trust thing.
You can't just say I don't knowwhat happened to it because
this thing costs like a hundredor more dollars.
I'm like this is dude, youcan't lose this thing right then
, that's good, that's.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
That's's at least starting to teach the
responsibility.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Here's what it looks like.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Okay, I don't die.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
And it's got the little bit, little bits of
elements inside it.
It's like see-through.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, that is cool.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
But he was so happy and they were impressed that you
know he was.
He's that passionate about theperiodic table and like hydrogen
and copper and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, that's killer man.
You think he's going to go intosome form of like chemistry or
something?

Speaker 1 (06:55):
He wants to, but then again he hates like schoolwork
and stuff.
So I'm like dude, you got to doa lot of work to get into that
stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, you know that's still.
Though that's awesome man, younever know, maybe go into like
pharmaceuticals or somethinglike that.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Something.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
So we're going to take a quick commercial when we
come back.
We're going to lighten up themood, lighten up the grill.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
We're going to talk about things we like to do in
the summertime, things we wantto do in the summertime, and
maybe other stuff deals withsummer, so stay tuned, we'll be
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Speaker 2 (09:02):
You know being guys.
Uh, summertime's here, man.
We like to pull out the grills,like to have fun, like to put
the tunes on, like to go toplaces.
What's your guys' idea ofsummer, man?
What are you guys wanting to do?
And if you guys are stayinghome, what do you got on the
grill?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
My dad's burger on the grill probably has to be my
favorite burger that I believeI've ever had.
He's in because he makes them.
They're so big.
You know, you remember wheneddie murphy described the
burger was like the big meatball.
Yeah, that's kind of what mydad makes, but man, they are
delicious nice, you eat thesesides with it or you just eat

(09:42):
the burger I guess that I don'tknow.
I got they like, they like cornon the cob and uh, you know all
that stuff and I guess the um wedo a lot of macaroni and cheese
oh man, I love it, I love themac.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
What, uh, what do you got on a burger?

Speaker 3 (09:59):
uh me, I like, I guess.
Uh, the fancy sauce.
I usually I'm not a mayonnaiseeater but I do like, like a, a
skim of mayonnaise with someketchup on it every now and then
I have a pickle on, you know,on that so.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
So, basically, plain with a skim of mayonnaise pretty
simple.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, pretty simple, pretty plain, just because I
don't know, I just I'm not intovegetable matter that much.
I never really my taste neverreally matured like that you
know right how.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
About you, jim, you, jim, what do you got on the
grill man?

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Pretty much just cheeseburgers, hot dogs,
sausages, maybe some grilledveggies, that's about it.
Like peppers and stuff, nothinglike crazy.
Not like lamb or like T-bonesteaks or nothing.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, pop folks can get one of those big griddles.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, that's what we want to get too.
Yeah, possible to get one ofthose big griddles?
Yeah, that's what we want toget too.
Yeah, our, I'm tired of thegrill, uh, the grill with the uh
grate, and then the stuff fallsthrough it.
Right, we pretty much decidedin about a couple weeks we're
going to get one of those uhflat griddles at my work and
stuff and just okay, those okaysee like, like I got the grill

(11:03):
that has the propane and thecharcoal and then the smokers on
the other side.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
But then Karen got me for Christmas, uh, the 32 inch
electric griddle and uh, theydon't like the smell of bacon in
the house.
So on the weekends, man, I goout at like four, 35 o'clock in
the morning, fire up the griddle, sit in the it's like a hot box
in here, dude, Like cause Idon't, I leave the door shut and

(11:30):
everything.
So it's like nothing but baconsmell.
Man, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
That'd be heaven.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Oh, dude.
And then I start makingpancakes and then I start
sending Keith pictures of thebacon, like super early in the
morning.
Man like look, and it's like,oh, it's bacon, you know like uh
, but yeah, jim, get that man,because it's amazing man, you
can make omelets, you can makeuh, like great scrambled eggs on
there and as long as it haslittle walls and stuff on the

(11:59):
side and and it's got the thedrain on the back, uh, just, it
drips down into the grease pan,but, like for the blackstone, it
has a uh, nonstick area.
So, like you can make pancakes,I don't even take it upstairs to

(12:19):
wash, I just wipe it down witha rag and it's back to normal.
That's awesome.
Yeah, what do you get on there?
What the uh grill the burgersand cheeseburgers when you when
they're when they're eatingtheir burger, when they're
eating like a burger man, whatdo you put about it?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
just, we all, we all, three of us like cheese on ours
and then just, uh, pretty muchthe condiments, like we talked
in that one episode, like abarbecue sauce, uh uh, ground
mustard, stone ground mustard onone side, then the barbecue on
the other, and then, um, likerelish or cheese in the middle.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Oh man, oh, that's, that's a construction there,
that's the, uh, that's theinstitute.
A1 is also delicious on aburger.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Oh yeah, If you like.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
I feel like I don't go to a one route enough, If you
like.
I feel like I don't go the A1route enough.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
If you blend that in with like ground ground beef man
and make patties and the A1s init, ah, pretty dang good man.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Does the burden taste like A1?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, it's like I got to put like a big thick slice
of onion on mine, tomato, mayo,sometimes no lettuce, I hate
when lettuce wilts.
It's just like, yeah, it'sgross, and then uh like garlic
pickles and then uh.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
You like dragging it through the garden.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
I do man, I do the rabbits.
They fall behind.
They know they'll go on thegrill next.
But for like, if I'm smokingman, because I always try, I'm
not an expert smoker man.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
I am.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
It's kind of clear there right now, man, I don't
see no smoke rising up.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
No, not this time though.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
But we got a.
I like trying to smoke ribs orlike some kind of.
Sometimes we smoke cream cheese.
We'll put the cream cheese inthe smoker for like an hour with
.
It stays solid man.
But if you put like this, yeah,I was going to ask that.
If you put like seasoning on it, man it blends in.
Seasoning on it, man it blendsin, like if you put like a

(14:39):
garlic herb seasoning on it andthen uh, after like, the hour.
It's like a spreadable man oncrackers.
Man, oh, it's so good, it's sogood.
You know, when I first heardthat smoke, I'm like that shit's
gonna melt, you know, and itstays solid, man, uh, it's
pretty good.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Now do you?

Speaker 2 (14:59):
guys have a garden at the house.
No, no, I just started an herbgarden at the house.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
You know, we got sweet basil, regular basil,
italian seasoning chives.
We got a couple other thingsthat are growing outside.
So if I want to fancy somethingweird, I'll pick something off
of that and see what I can do.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, we have stuff that my mom planted years ago
that's like annuals, that keepscoming back, but we have a
groundhog that pretty much eatsit.
Yeah, now my mother-in-law shehas an amazing garden like, uh,
it's, it's, it's has likecolumns and uh, like an archway,
like all that you know.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I mean, it's, it's decked out, pretty, pretty
amazing we need to get like afence for our yard.
That way I can uh, becausethere we have the bike trail
right behind us and if I putanything in our yard we're gonna
have people like wanderingright to us and we don't know
you know for the people thatthat take all that time and they
got like all these like bellpeppers and tomatoes and

(16:07):
cucumber awesome and amazing.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Man, I like envy them .
Guys like keeping the rodentsout from eating the stuff you
know, like like everything'sperfectly lined up.
I can't make a line.
If my life depended on it, man,I can't see straight.
But, uh, what else are you guyslooking forward to this summer?
Any plans for vacations or ifthe finances are great.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
That's our whole thing.
We had like last summer we hadplans and then, uh, merlene had
the hospital thing there's a lotthis spring and stuff so that
we were, and then we're startingto get the bills now from
chicago university and we'relike, uh man, I don't know what
uh summer we're to.
If we planned it, we wanted togo to Tennessee.
They have this in Chattanooga.

(16:59):
They have this huge aquariumthat has like saltwater and
freshwater animals.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, Because Jimmy loves aquariums and we wanted to
go there.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
But we have a badass aquarium here, yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
It's also right down the street from Lookout Mountain
, so if you like Civil War man,that's like a huge part of the.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Civil War.
Like I said, with the financeswe might not be able to go to
Tennessee this summer.
So we'll be looking for likesmall local attractions or like
an hour or two radius from us,like if something on a weekend
or something, because I don'tknow if we'll have time off and
stuff with her.
We took a lot of the time forher uh hospital stay.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Jim, have you ever been to the blueberry fest?
When I was a little kid, we didyou check it out now, man, it's
in plymouth, it's free to getin.
Man, uh, lots of vendors, womenlike it, lots of food, guys
like it and lots of things forlike kids to do that's all free,
like amusement park rides andit's, it's on now uh, it starts

(18:07):
in uh on labor day weekend, soit's kind of like the end of uh
summer, but that's like a hugething and turning no damn
blueberries there man.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Doesn't your family go to?
Like a lot of the events aroundhere for the summer and that?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
We go to like a lot of festivals like Lynn and all,
we jump in the car and gosomewhere.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
You got to send me a list of that stuff, because I
really want to do that stuffthis year.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, there's actually a website, man, man,
that shows like all thefestivals in indiana and like
the prices to get in and uh, youknow like there's ways to get
around.
Like the county fairs man, yougot the free before three.
Uh, yeah, so like you dip inand uh, how are you guys like

(18:55):
liking festivals and dealingwith like crowds of people and
my wife's hand.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
She, my wife, hates crowds.
But I mean I, with the way Igrew up with my family doing all
that stuff, I mean I don't mindcrowds.
And then I'm the one that'll goout to big places and a crowded
area and I don't, I don'treally mind, but her, she, like
it, drives her nuts yeah see, Isay I don't like a crowd until
I'm in one.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
You guys have seen me in a crowd yeah why you could
see I I'm not bad in a crowd, Ijust I don't.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I always say I don't like a crowd, but I guess I'm
okay, you know it's probablythat when you're, when you're in
it and you're thinking about ohmy God, I'm in a crowd, then
you start in your head, startswirling and going out of
control.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
But if you just talk to somebody and you're not
really focusing on it, yeah,Like you can see, obviously,
when we come to the back raker,I pretty much am holding court
wherever I'm at.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, yeah, it's man.
A lot of people ask.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Like Krogie Fest a couple years ago when Jimmy was
little.
And where's that?
At in downtown, the Whiting,whiting.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
And it was pretty much like thousands of people in
the road where you're likesardines just going down the
road trying to get to the sideand we had to push a stroller
around and she was in livinghell.
She was just like freaking thehell out and I'm like oh my god,
calm down.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, have you know any uh dutch accident house?
That's like about?
I think it's about an hour awayfrom you guys.
We stopped there on the way upthe last time.
That place is pretty cool and Iknow it's.
It's uh, it's free to go there.
Obviously they have stuff thatyou can pay for while you're
there, but it's a it's a prettycool place.
They got like horses and Ithink it's like an amish kind of
thing not this.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Oh, we got uh ship shawana, we got napanee okay big
amish places, man, and uh,there's some good places.
If you like food, you know Iget shook around amish, oh yeah
yeah, okay, I've met many.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
They give me the eyeball man oh, everybody gives
you the eyeball they do, don'tthey?
Why is that?
I see them.
It was always at the trainstation too.
When I take the parents to thetrain station, there'd be the
amish and I'd give like the, youknow, the, the how you doing,
not the how he's doing, and theywould just like stare, you know
, stare at me, fucking tough guybehind their beards they could

(21:16):
sell evil you see it, I, I seena motorhome, a motorhome pull up
man and and when the dooropened, man, all the amish just
came piling off man and and likethe teens that they didn't have
shoes on.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
And then they went into the truck stop and they're
like no shoes, no shirt, noservice, you know, and and I
almost, I almost didn't get that, you know.
And then they're still tryingto buy stuff and the jag behind
the counter is like no shoes,you know, it's like just just
let them go, man, they're notsupposed to be in a v8 goal.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
And there they go, you know see, that makes me
wonder is, uh, them beingfriendly a stereotype?
You know I mean, was I, was Iraised, you know, raised on a
lie that they were all supposedto be friendly, when they're,
just, you know, regular people?
If you go to any normal placein east toledo and you start
fucking saying hello toeverybody is eventually
somebody's gonna stare at youthe wrong way yeah, especially

(22:11):
curry gun.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
he's okay everywhere, it?
You know, everybody gets badreputations everywhere, right?
Why are people not?
They're supposed to be outevery year, right?
Hey, I mean everybody.
We all know that we're allgetting screwed.
So I mean, we're all getting itequally.
So let's just, you know,everybody calm down.
Yeah it's definitely.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
He's the assholes.
Right when you can disarmsomebody by giving them the, the
friendly gesture or whatever,and they're like oh okay, this,
yeah, this dude's not giving methe eyeball.
Fuck, come on, we'reMidwesterners.
Come on, I'll ball on that one.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Oh, man, uh.
So we got festivals, uh, andthere's always a ton in the area
.
You got county fairs every week, starting in like June, yeah,
and you can actually follow thefair people around.
Holy cow, it is tomorrow, man.
That's crazy.
Wow, worst time gone, man.

(23:06):
This is only the 20th episode.
I'm like way behind.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
It's quality, not quantity, right.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
We'll keep them coming.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
What, uh, what tunes you guys got playing on the
cookouts man.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Oh geez For summertime.
You got to go with Van Halen,right.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, you got.
Uh, I made a list, I made aSpotify playlist.
I called it dad bod, Okay, andit's a dad bod playlist and
pretty much it's like classicrock and uh, hair metal for guys
grilling and stuff right and,like I said, ran halen and
zaplin right.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Like zaplin is good summer, has it too some ccr or
something on there oh yeah, yeah.
And of course, the cars yeah,yeah, there's some good stuff,
man uh.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, there's some good stuff, man Uh, I got like
the tragically hit plan.
I got, uh, I don't think.
I don't think I have anythingover the eighties other than the
other than the hip plan.
Okay, and you know, just kickback grill, Cause most of the

(24:14):
time everybody's just in thehouse waiting for you to cook
all the food.
While they're having fun,You're out there working over
the smoke.
Yeah, so we got that, butwhat's like your number one
summer song?

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Oh jeez, I'd have to say Summer Madness by I believe
it's the Commodores.
It's a mostly instrumental song.
It's real mellow.
That might be my favoritesummer song.
They kind of do a knockoff ofthat song in the first Rocky
movie.
You know where he comes in inthe beginning after his first
fight and he turns the radio onand he's talking to his turtles.

(24:53):
Yeah, first fight, and he turnsthe the radio on and he's
talking to his turtles.
Yeah, it's that.
It's like.
It's kind of a uh like, uh, uh,that song is kind of like a
knockoff of, uh, summer madnessI don't know what summer song
I'd like.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, how about eddie cochran's summertime blues?

Speaker 3 (25:07):
summertime blues is great.
Yeah, uh, summertime rolls byjane's addiction.
That's a great one, in myopinion.
That's one of my favorites, forsure.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I haven't heard Jane's Addiction in a long time.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Oh yeah, Summertime Sadness.
Lana Del Rey, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, some good stuff , mm-hmm.
What else you guys do thissummer?

Speaker 3 (25:29):
I'm hoping to do some swimming this year.
I love swimming, I missswimming, I miss swimming.
I haven't gone swimming since Ihad a membership at the YMCA
and I've been going because whenI go in the morning to try and
get laps, all the 70-year-oldswould be lined up butt fucking
naked in the locker room waiting.
You know what I mean crowdingthe door so they can get a lane

(25:53):
in the lap lane.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
And it's like ridiculous.
They're all like.
I kid you not.
These dudes are standing.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Swimming around.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
One guy's sitting down, the other guy's standing
up with his dick hanging aboutthree inches from the other
guy's face, while they're justdiscussing each other's lives
and vacations and stuff likethat, I'm like, all right, maybe
the 5 am crowd at the Y ain'tfor me.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Is this like an old person porn?
What's going on around here?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Oh, man why You're sitting on a bench drying off
man.
You got your towel like cleandrying your hair off and the
dude kicks his leg up on thebench.
Man, he's like powdering hisballs.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
And it's I'm working here Getting the undercarriage
there.
You tough Get a good dusting onthe undercarriage.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
It's hotter.
I've heard the balls is likedrifting your way and it's just
not as balls.
He long fell to somewhere else.
Oh, fuck man.
You can always come swim withthe dogs here.
Man, they got like three orfour pools in the yard.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Oh wow, we have a dog pool.
We swim with the dogs here.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
man, they got like three or four pools in the yard.
Oh wow, we have a dog pool.
We have one that like kind offolds open that's like this,
this real thick vinyl, that badboy is pretty cool.
I gotta take jimmy to the beachevery time I help.
Oh man, yeah, because we?
I don't think he ever wasswimming.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I used to love swimming at like, uh, in the
lake, but, dude, I'm just riptides man, rip currents man,
like scared the shit out of me.
Yeah, you know, because you youhear too many stories, man, and
I've had a few friends theydon't know how to like get out
of that damn current man whenyou switch you out right, uh,

(27:29):
now, jim, are you talking thedunes like in in the up?

Speaker 3 (27:32):
indiana all the dunes in ind, the UP Indiana.
Oh, the dunes in Indiana, heels, heels.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Right on the bottom lip there the Chesterton and
Gary we don't know the Gary onewe go to like Chesterton area
and around there Michigan City.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Oh wow, I didn't know there was dunes in Indiana.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, a couple years ago, man, a kid ran up this
place called Mount Baldy, whichis like a really steep dune, man
, and it's really big, it's overfive feet.
And dude, it was like a sinkholeman and the kid fell in through
the sinkhole and the sand cameover him, and a lot of sand.

(28:14):
But the thing that saved him isbecause the sand, uh, when it
blew up over the trees you know,is it over the the centuries
that they was sitting there, youknow, like the trees like kind
of like overhang, they gave himbreathing space.
But, my god, now they don'twant you on mount baldy, because
I can see why.

(28:35):
Damn, like, the kid just gotswallowed, like, uh, the pit and
return of the jedi man oh,could you imagine that shit?

Speaker 3 (28:43):
oh, my god, jesus do you remember the baldies from
the wanders?
You'll see that movie, thewanders not in a long time and
wall and like, uh, I can'tremember who else is in it, but
yeah, damn that'd be messed up.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, it's funny so make sure you tie a rope around
Jimmy as he's going up the dunesand banging around his wet face
.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Well, it's gonna be funny because he's gonna be like
he's gonna be walking with usthe dune trails and he's gonna
be like I can't do it.
I'm like come on, man, I didthis as a kid, just keep walking
did uh, and he's going to belike I can't do it.
I'm like come on, man, I didthis as a kid.
Just keep walking.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
When's the last time you've been to the dunes?
Oh God, it was the 90s orsomething.
They got a wooden board on allthe trails.
They have a wooden boardwalkaround all the trails now.
So now you can walk in the sand.
Yeah, you're not even walkingin sand.
Walking in sand, yeah, you'renot even walking in sand.
And they have a uh in, uh in,uh.
The chesterton area, man, theyhave like a preserve, a wildlife
preserve, and it's got likesnakes in there, like a little

(29:42):
zoo.
Uh, it's like a building, it'slike a learning center.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
So you might like that, you know my aunt used to
take us, me and my cousins allto the dunes.
We would just dressed up incamouflage and we would just be
walking the dunes forever, go tothe beach and stuff wow, like
you still like uh greencamouflage, or like the desert
camouflage green oh okay, yeah,that well, that was plenty.
Yeah, back in the 80s.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Oh yeah, there's a lot of, there's a lot of forest.
Been on the dunes too, you know, and it's it's really nice man
like really nice indiana dun andit's really nice man like
really nice Indiana Dunes, andit's our state park, one of the
state parks here.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
And if you didn't like?
In the 80s they only had greencamouflage, unless your parent
was like part of a desertcamouflage.
They never sold that desertcamouflage or anything else
besides green when we were kids,so we just all dressed in green
.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Oh, I got plenty of that yeah, I grew up with an
army surplus store about twoblocks away or about I don't
know about, but about half amile away that's actually still
there.
They got some great deals on it.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Scott would go nuts, I'm sure well, dude, they got a
bunch of uh.
Well, they don't have as muchas they used to, but there's a
two or three in the area that Ilike to go to.
Man, I just love the smell ofthe inside of it.
Man, it's like musty.
They all sound the same.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Smells like freedom.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
There you go.
That's the name of the episode.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Smells like freedom.
Summer smells like freedom.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Summer smells like freedom.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
There we go man, go man.
Summer, summer 2025.
What about our dream, our goal,dream vacations?

Speaker 3 (31:23):
you know where I could take the dogs that would
have would have to be at thispoint yeah, they still.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
They're starting to get the ground ready to build
that dog park right at the endof our block.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Oh wow, there's one about an hour away from here up
in Michigan, that was likereally nice, and we tried to
take Dally there last year, butit was cold and rainy and it was
nasty as shit.
And then we, you know he hadn'tbeen with us that long, so when
we got him out it was like hewasn't going for it.
And then when other dogsstarted walking by, he really
wasn't going for.
It was like all right, this isa bad idea.

(31:57):
It's cold and so let's go wellwith this new guy.
I mean, he's so small, youprobably could have four bushes
and it could be like a forestfor him oh yeah, well, he fits
in pocket, you know, I meanbecause he sleeps on my wife's
chest, more or less inside hercleavage, and I always say that
that little guy's living mydream.
I've always won, I've alwayswanted to do that and I've been
very vocal about expressing that.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
She knows hey, buddy, save some for me, man, I think
my road trip for the summer.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
I'm trying.
I'm gonna drive back up tocanada.
Uh, probably in august because,okay, if, if Natalie kicks off
at the movie, I'm definitelygoing to be up there.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, you'll be an alien.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Well, after what you're going through, you
deserve to go up there and be ina movie.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Well see, then I would feel guilty because my
dad's not to get back into that.
You know, like if somethinghappened to him then I got to
come right back home.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, but how long are you going to him?
Then I got to come right backhome.
Yeah, but how long are yougoing to be gone, really up
there, like a week maybe DudeRight, you did it outside 24
hours before.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
My time, my time is is like 24 to 48 hours.
I'm back in.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Make that record.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
I'm sure he could be on his best behavior and stuff
for 48 hours.
For the sake of you, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
You just tell Natalie to be waiting on the side of
the road with your hand out fora handshake.
You just drive by, shake herhand a bit, just turn around and
go home Like oh, broke therecord dude I, I did, man.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
It was almost 1400 miles in less than 24 hours yeah
I drove and then mytransmission went out on me when
I got back, that's iron man'sup right there now everything's
rebuilt so, uh, it should beready to go.
I'm all ready to go back up, man.
And then my dad's like man, Iwish I can go with you.

(33:50):
And I was like, dude, you got apassport right.
He's like somewhere.
I'm like man, you know, butwith his medical I don't know
all the pills and everything hetakes.
It's like, yeah, I don't know.
It's just, I don't know I Ikind of like a little road trip
by myself, man, or with a friendman, just listen to some tunes,
kick back, go to places thatwe've never been.

(34:14):
You know I stay in the shadiestass hotels because I don't, I
don't plan on sleeping today.
You know like I like to go outand experience.
But you know like when me, kadeand, uh, brintley alexander
dawson, we went, went toTennessee to wrestle, you know I

(34:34):
booked us in a hotel and everyhotel room had a hooker standing
outside a door.
Oh my God, it was good times,man, I bet.
But that's my ideal man.
I just love driving up there.
It's like calm.
You know, I do do what I want todo.

(34:55):
I tell the wife when I'm comingback and she don't believe me.
And the next thing, you know, Iwalk in two minutes late from
the time that I send and I getthe business.
Oh, too many, yeah, but atleast you had a good time.
But you know, like I couldspend, spend 300 on a hotel, but

(35:18):
when I I could, you know, but Idon't plan on being there.
So if I can get a 30 hotel, itlooks the same when my eyes are
closed, man, you know.
I mean I just make sure all myclothes and bags are like up in
the air hanging.
Oh my God, I don't want.
No, and if the bathroom's clean, I'm cool man.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Scott's Roach Motel.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah, I know $300 will get you one night at the
Bellamere Inn and if you'venever heard of it, maybe you
should look it up.
Bellamere Suites is inPerrysburg, ohio.
There's one in Perrysburg and Ithink there's only one other in
the States.
It's an adult-only hotel thatmy wife and I have gone to I
think four times.
They have pools inside the roomand all that.

(36:01):
It's some of the you know asfar as, like a couple thing,
it's one of the nicest placesI've ever been.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Dude $300.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, popped right up man.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Well, get dude $300.
Yeah, popped right up, man.
Well, get you more.
In canada, too, $300.
Get you a poutine special andI'm not talking about food.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Hooker is up there yeah, nothing wrong with that
man.
Uh, so what else, guys?
What else you guys get excitedabout summer.
I know, being a father of likeyoung kids like Kaylee, kylie
and Jimmy, I mean you get tokind of see summer through their

(36:40):
eyes as well, you know.
So I can only imagine you canreminisce like oh, back in my
day, and then it starts soundingold.
What else is like the wholefamily like really like looking
forward to?

Speaker 3 (36:54):
um, uh, kylie might be a bad example because she's
one of them today's kids whereshe lives for her, uh, her, uh,
what do you call it?

Speaker 1 (37:03):
her tablet yeah, her tablet exactly yeah, he's
watching youtube every second.
I gotta get him off there andwe're gonna start putting.
The summer is gonna be likerestrictions and stuff and it's
a great idea he loves doingcrafty stuff, though that's what
, that's what it is.
I mean, if you take it awayfrom him or it's broke, he's
like all right, and he juststarts doing craft stuff.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
But I I agree with that and I believe, uh, my
daughter is that way due to, uh,my, you know that's that's my
fault.
In that case, it, for exactlythe same reasons, I haven't um
come up with enough reasons tokeep her stimulated in other
places, so that's what she woundup, you know I mean resorting
to so it's.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
It's.
It's weird because the thenewer generation, it seems like
for our generation, you couldleave us.
Our parents did, leave us aloneand we had to figure out and
imagine and and create stuff ourown and we didn't whine to them
every second, saying I'm bored,I'm bored, I'm bored, play with
me, play with me, right.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Just never said that like for me, for me, me and like
my friends.
We'd always disappear in thewoods, man, we'd build forts.
We'd be climbing trees you know,just yeah, sports.
But I was more of a.
I'm hanging out in the woodsall day and I don't care.
That was pretty army days, sono wonder why I went in uh

(38:22):
little scotty's building a bomb.
We used to play like war gamesin the back and riding bikes.
Dude, just having fun hittingthe trails on the bikes, going
down hills real fast, buildingreally shady, flimsy ramps and
jumping them, or taking yourbike to the top of a slide a
really high slide and riding itdown and you got a bunny hop at

(38:46):
the very bottom right before youhit the edge.
Otherwise it goes like anglesdown and you rack your balls on
the handlebars.
Not fun, oh my God.
But but it's God, man, justthinking of, like, how the
generation is nowadays to thegeneration that we came from and
how much more unsupervised funwe had and things that we did

(39:13):
that we look back on and be likedamn, we survived that yeah,
and I mean summers.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Back then they we would get on our bikes, me and
my brother, and we'd go drive todowntown area and our parents
did not know where we were.
We had a quarter in our pocketto call for a phone call.
That was it.
Yeah, we just drove, drovearound on our bikes downtown.
That is unheard of nowadays.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah the distance from my high school in junior
high school to where I lived wassomething crazy and through
nothing but like, uh, you knowdeep dark parts of, of, uh,
fucking east toledo, oh my god.
Yeah, so I could only imagine asthe kids you know I've asked my
parents, as I could onlyimagine as a kid, you know.
I've asked my parents.
I said could you imagineputting Kylie, you know, at the

(39:55):
corner, like where I used tohave to catch the bus and
fucking have it, you know walk?
I'm like no, that would be soscary, whereas I did it every
day.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
I would tell my parents that I was going to my
friends down the street.
Then, uh, I knew this was goingto be a long adventure, but for
my parents house, I'd jump onthe bike and go to this place in
downtown hobert, not too farfrom jim.
It was called a friendlyfrank's comic store and, dude, I
used to hang out in the comicbook store and I'd always come

(40:26):
home with comics because theywere pretty cheap back then, you
know, and then it was like awhole different world.
Man, kids got to use theirimagination.
We used our imagination, youknow.
Sure, video games were out, buta lot of people couldn't afford
them.
But it's like when it was playtime to go outside, we came home

(40:47):
, you know, we did our thingfrom school and then we
disappeared.
So it's just.
And then there was nothing.
We didn't carry cameras.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
That's worrying about selfies and and well, mainly
thing you know, you didn't nagyour parents.
You didn't nag them at all.
You would have got, you knowsmacked or something, if we're
you know screamed at, if youwould have said what are you
doing, I'm bored?
I'm bored and they're like no,shut the hell, you know, get
away from me right, right, justbe home before the street lights
kick on and now I got stuff todo in my house and yard and all

(41:20):
that stuff and I can't do itbecause I got him going.
I want to do something, I don'tdo something.
You don't take me.
You know what?
I'll freaking throw you in asecond here, right?

Speaker 2 (41:28):
and then I mean it's like power is shifted and then
you see a kid.
Uh, the kid gets takensomewhere and they're on their
tablet and after they justbothered you to get out of the
house and then they just go tothe tablet.
Yeah, you know, or they're toobusy taking pictures instead of
like enjoying the moment right.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
have you ever seen that comedy?
It was like a comedy sketchwhere somebody robbed a bank and
they got away with it becausenobody saw him do it, cause they
were all looking at theirtelephones.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
That's hilarious, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
I can't remember where I saw that.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
So this is like our summer episode smells like
freedom and uh guys, gotanything else for the summer
plans or are we wrapping this upand uh and uh well if, if you
know, we make do with what yougot.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
You know, don't worry about other people bragging
online that they're going hereor there, you know, rome or
wherever Right, just I.
All I could say is just do whatyou can do for what you can
afford and enjoy the food on thegrill.
That's it.
And how does it guarantee beingaway from home is a good time a

(42:41):
lot of times it's not right.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
A lot of times it isn't huh.
A lot of times it's like youcan't wait to get home.
There's been, and I've been inin really fun shit.
Be like all right, this is cool, but I'm I'm ready to go home.
I'm sick of this shit.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
I really wish I would have had better options for
when we were buying houses.
I would have loved to havewoods and stuff in the backyard
and that.
Yeah, so you can go.
You want a vacation?
Go out there.
They're saying what's up there?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
My parents live across the street from the
railroad railroad line.
We used to jump on the trainnot not them, but me and my
friends, you know because theywould kind of like drive slow.
And so you just jump on thetrain, man, and then, uh, wow,
it takes you a couple miles downthe road, jump off, then wait
for the train to come backwhere's scott?

Speaker 1 (43:30):
he'd be in a he he's pretending to be a hobo.
He's gone.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
But most of the time he should train to go to the
woods.
But that's all I got, man forthis episode.
And, like Jim said, man, justyou know, like, don't try to
keep up with the Joneses, man,do what you can afford, because
a lot of times things are free,man, and you can have just as
much fun.
You know, when you drop a lotof money on places, you might

(43:55):
not have fun, like Keith said.
So you'll feel like you wastedthat money.
So that's why I don't stay nomore like too long.
Man, one day is good enough forme.
I'm bending out, I don't carehow far I got to drive, but, Jim
, before we leave, man, what doyou got for the quote which

(44:16):
Keith gave you a tribute theother day on the podcast?

Speaker 1 (44:19):
That was real nice.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Oh, that's, all right .

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Okay, here's the quote Be strong, you never know
who you are inspiring.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
That one, that one hits me hard, me hard, man, from
what we talked about just alittle while ago, man that's
what I was planning sir.
No, that's, it's you know.
That's why I like these quotes,man, because sometimes, just
sometimes, you know, likewhether it's from you or you
might hear a quote from somebodyelse on TV and it's like

(44:51):
talking directly to you, so thatone talked directly to me.
So we're good, so, but we thankeverybody for joining us.
We hope you had fun with theSmells Like Freedom Tour here,
and I know you guys aren't goingto, but, mo, I know you will
and I know you will uh, tell uswhat you got planned for the

(45:14):
summer, man, and and uh and mo,you know you got to come on the
show soon.
So, uh, that's all I got, guys,and with that from keith, jim
and myself, man, we hopeeverybody has a good week.
Hopefully we'll be back nextweek.
I'll talk to you guys later.
See you everybody.
Bye, thank you you.
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