Behind the Scenes of Greg Floyd’s Interview: Son Admits Killing Parents on Camera

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Greg Floyd (00:05):
What happened to your parents?
So, did you kill your parentsto as a mercy killing to put
them out of their misery?
I want to hear from you.
What did you do to yourparents?

Lorenz Kraus (00:14):
I buried them in their property.

Greg Floyd (00:16):
You suffocated them.
You suffocated your parents.

Yeah.

Greg Floyd (00:21):
That was the best way to take their lives through
suffocation.

Basically, you're a good question.

Molly McPherson (00:28):
Hey there, welcome to the PR Breakdown
Podcast.
This is an interesting episodebecause we are mid-viral story.
Joining me is the guy who's allover the news this week, Greg
Floyd.

Greg Floyd (00:42):
Hi Molly.

Who I said on social media this week, my guy,
Greg Floyd, and so many peoplein the comments said, Oh, that's
so great for your colleague.
And I thought, people must notbe following me.
We are colleagues.
I guess we are colleagues.
Yeah, so we are mid-peak ofthis viral story that you were a
part of.
Talk about the intersection ofour lives just from a new story,

(01:04):
but also how it's covered, buthow it intersected with us too,
how it came up.
So on this edition of thepodcast, I had to bring you in
to have a conversation to bringyou back to the podcast to talk
about the story of the headlineis the son who admitted he
killed his parents to atelevision journalist.

(01:24):
And you are that televisionjournalist.
It's viral, it's everywhere.
And now you are here with me totalk about that story because
it's a crazy story.
Now, anyone can find it online.
It's on the WRGB website, it'son YouTube, it's everywhere.
But this podcast episode is adifferent angle.
One, certainly the privateangle of you and I working on it

(01:46):
together.
But I wanted to ask you aboutthe angle coming from a
journalist on the other side ofit, because I think it's
interesting.
How the story came together,how you got this interview, how
you got him to admit that hekilled and buried his parents,
then how it became a nationalstory, and also if it's okay,
how you're grappling with it.

Greg Floyd (02:07):
Sure.
Okay.
That's a lot to unpack.

It's a lot, and we're gonna get through all of
this.
So let's go back to thebeginning, which I consider was
it Monday when the storystarted?
It was on Tuesday.

Greg Floyd (02:18):
The story you want me to take you through this.
Yeah.
On Tuesday, basically onTuesday, mid-morning, a large
array of police vehicles andofficial vehicles descended on
Crestwood Court in Albany.
Nice residential neighborhoodin the city of Albany.
The news media all found outabout that.
We all went to the scene, andsomething was happening.
All that the police would saywas that it was a financial

(02:39):
crimes investigation.
It quickly became clear that itwas a social security fraud
investigation.
And then it became more clearas the hours went by, something
strange had happened at thathome.

And you knew, and I'm saying this because I
know, because you told me, youknew that this was a big news
story.

Greg Floyd (02:57):
It was obvious that they are calling it a financial
crime story, but there's digginggoing on in the backyard.
They weren't digging forfinancial records.

Okay, so from a newsroom point of view, do you
remember the time of day whenthis happened?
Because at this time, you'vehad a number of people out at
your station, so you're doing alot of the newscasts.
Did you find this out duringthe day?

Greg Floyd (03:15):
Yeah, it was late morning.
Okay.

And then did you report it that evening on
the five and the six?

Greg Floyd (03:20):
We did, but again, it was with circumspect, but we
handled it carefully because weweren't sure exactly what was
happening.
And we didn't want to give thewrong information.
We wanted to give lessinformation but correct
information.

Yes.
And so now to get into theprivate aspect of our
relationship, every day I askyou about your news stories,
right?
You do.
Yes.
And I always want to know whatyou're reporting on, what story
you're doing, and what's the bignews.
And sometimes I definitelywatch you on the newscast.

Greg Floyd (03:48):
Sometimes you're ahead of me.
You're on the computer, you'refinding out what's happening
Albany before I do it.

This is true, because I'm on Albany Reddit.
So I hear about things ahead oftime too.
But you mentioned the story,you know, about the guy.
We didn't know the guy's nameyet.
And now I remember it the nextmorning on your way to work.
What morning was that you toldme?

Greg Floyd (04:04):
It would be Wednesday morning.

Okay, so Wednesday morning, did they find
bodies at that point?

Greg Floyd (04:08):
No, they had not found a body yet on Wednesday
morning.

But you suspected that they would,
right?

Greg Floyd (04:13):
Yes.

Okay.
And then I asked you thatmorning, where's the sun?

Greg Floyd (04:17):
Because you knew that it was a sun involved.

And but and you said right away.

Greg Floyd (04:21):
It is a sun.
It is a sun.
The name of yeah.

And you knew the name.
And so as soon as I getanything, Greg, what do I do
with it?

Greg Floyd (04:28):
Down the rabbit hole.
Yep.

I immediately start typing.
I start looking.
First place, I think I went toReddit.
I went to Google, obviously, isI think I did AI as well.
But where I struck gold was onLinkedIn because he had a
LinkedIn profile.
He made a lot of comments, andhe had even commented a week
prior, which I wasn't expectingthat.
And when I looked at thecommentary, I was telling you

(04:52):
because you were driving intowork, I said, I see crypto,
China, anti-Semitic things,capitalism, and then the
Philippines.
So I said, Greg, I think he'snutty.
And this was really the firstyou were hearing about what kind
of person he was.

Greg Floyd (05:07):
That's it, all started unfolding then.
And then later that day, morethings unfolded.

Yeah, and you also, I remember you asking me,
because I can tell when you turnon your journalist too, because
then you were asking me, okay,where did he go to school?
When you really wanted that biothing.
So here's a question I have foryou.
Are you someone, do you put biopoints together and build a
story just even from that?

Greg Floyd (05:27):
At least you're planning on building a story.
Yes.
You want to give peoplewhatever you can give them about
what's going on.
So yeah.
Okay.
A person's background is partof that, sure.

Okay.
So now I really want to getinto more about how the story
grew.
So from that point, that day, Ididn't speak to you all day.
What happened next?

Greg Floyd (05:44):
That day, Wednesday, is when they found the first
set of human remains in thebackyard of this home.
And that was widely reportedthat night, Wednesday night on
our station, other TV stations,other media outlets.
And the story was growing bythe minute or by the hour.

And it was a pretty competitive story in the
market, obviously.
Oh, of course, yeah.
Yeah.
And I was following along onReddit, and a lot of people were
asking questions about it aswell.
So now Thursday morning, whatwas happening on Thursday
morning?

Greg Floyd (06:11):
Late Wednesday, they found the human remains of one
person.
By Thursday morning, they hadfound a second set of human
remains, believed to be theparents, Franz and Teresa
Krauss, who lived there, notofficially identified even
still.
But now they have two sets ofhuman remains.
So the police hold a newsconference to announce that.
And that was at two o'clock onThursday afternoon.

Okay.
And then what happened then?

Greg Floyd (06:34):
After that news conference, the son, Lawrence
Krauss, contacted us.
I believe he contacted othermedia outlets as well.
He sent us an email requestingthat we publish his two-page
statement that he had come upwith.
Nothing to do with the thingsthat were happening at that
home, at that family home, butagain, more of what you had seen

(06:55):
online, his thoughtspolitically and globally and how
the country should be run andthings like that.

Who did he contact?
Is it like a general newsline?
Like news?

Greg Floyd (07:03):
He emailed it to our news email address, yes.

Okay.
Okay, so then from there, and Ididn't even ask you this yet.
It comes in.
Who tells you?
So what time is it?
And who tells you what'shappening?

Greg Floyd (07:14):
That's well after two o'clock, well after three
o'clock, even.
And our news director, StoneGrissom, who had the email in
his hands, had, I don't know ifit was on there or not, but he
got his phone number.
And he called him and he gotthrough to him and said, Listen,
we will grant your request.
We will publish this two-pagemanifesto if you will come over
here and do an interview.

(07:34):
And Mr.
Krause said, okay.
He acquiesced and said, sure,I'll do that.
And the next thing we know, hetells us he's driving toward our
station.

I didn't ask you this.
So when he sent the emailasking for the manifesto, he
didn't call it that.
He just But a statement.
A statement to be published.
What did he want from it?
What was transactional?

Greg Floyd (07:53):
Yeah, he wanted his thoughts out there.
I think he saw this is hischance.
Gosh, I'm in the news now.
Here's my chance to get mytheories out there.

So at this point, was the police already
saying his name in connectionwith it?

Greg Floyd (08:07):
Or he did he just know the gig was up and that's
why I I just think he knew thathe was in the limelight, so he
wanted to capture that limelightand have a chance, have a
vehicle to get his thoughts outthat he thought were important
to him and important for peopleto hear.

Okay.
And here's the reason why I'masking it is because when you
interviewed him, it did notappear to be a guy who wanted to
admit or confess to killing hisparents.

Greg Floyd (08:32):
He did not.
Made that clear to our newsdirector, Stone.
He said, I'm taking the fifthon anything about what happened
with my parents.

I know he said that in the in interview with
you, but he said that to Oh, hedid.

Greg Floyd (08:42):
So we knew when he was coming over that he was not
coming over to confess.
He was coming over to talkabout his statement.

Okay.
So, Greg, so now you have, Iknow it was reported that you
had 10 minutes to prepare, but Iremember when you were telling
me about it at the time, you hadno time to prepare.

Greg Floyd (08:58):
I think it was probably last time, yes, because
he was about to walk in thedoor any minute.
My news director had just runto my office and said, Are you
up for doing this?
Can you do this?
And I said, Of course.
And it was basically justthrowing my jacket on and
getting down to the lobby wherewe were setting up for the
interview.

Okay, so let's get into the broadcast
news-esque part of this.
You need to run down and dothis interview, but you're also
doing a broadcast interview.
And did you know at that timeit was going to be a big video
interview?
Like technically, you weredoing an interview.

Greg Floyd (09:26):
Yes, I knew it was going to be on video and
important, sure.

Okay, because the aspect, and there are a lot
of questions on Reddit, not alot of people made a comment,
but a couple on Facebook andReddit, people noticing that you
did not have socks on.

Greg Floyd (09:38):
And full disclosure, I had knee replacement surgery
recently, so I've been wearingsneakers with my suit, and I did
not want to go on camera withsneakers on, so I got up to my
car quickly and got on a pair ofcomfortable black shoes at
least.
And yes, I it's not trivial.

I know.
But let me tell you why it'simportant.
Okay.
And I because I mentionedbroadcast news, which of course
is one of my favorite movies ofall time.
It's one of yours.
Why does broadcast news themovie sing?
It's because people love thebehind the scenes.
They love that.
God, who was Albert Brooks init?
What was his name?
Anthony.
We're sweating, that's true forsure.
No, I can't remember what hisname is.

(10:13):
I don't remember either.
Oh, it's AA, it's alliterative.
It will come to me in threehours.
But I I think it is interestingbecause it shows news is
happening.
You have to make a choice.
You're a news anchor, you'regonna be on camera, juggling a
lot of stuff at at once.
And so you had to sacrifice nothaving the socks.

Greg Floyd (10:30):
Well, it was virtually no time at all to get
that done.
And I'm thinking about thingsas I'm doing it.
But again, I believe that goinginto that interview with no
time to prepare, to no time towrite out questions, no time to
start researching what I didn't,didn't know, but not going in
with prepared questions, I thinkis what made the interview
successful.
Because we sat down, the camerawent on, and we just started

(10:52):
talking.

And I'll say this from knowing you you are
the most prepared person I know.
You prepare for everything.
I do.
Nothing.
And when I'm not prepared, youknow it.
You're very patient with mebecause I am not at the level of
you.

Greg Floyd (11:08):
I generally do stories about government waste
and politicians and have toconfront them, and I want to
have the facts straight.
And yes, I go in very prepared.

Yeah.
So when I was watching yourinterview, I don't think I told
you this, but it's funny.
I saw you sitting down becauseI have to look at you first as
my boyfriend.
Like, how does he look?
And then I immediately noticedyou don't have socks on.
But I know why.
I'm not judging you because Iknow you don't.

Greg Floyd (11:29):
Are we close to the part of the podcast where we
stop talking about the lack ofsocks?

No, what I noticed is like all those black
shoes.

Greg Floyd (11:36):
Remember what you I just don't want to trivialize.
No, we're not.

But what I'm saying is because this is a
viral story and we're nottrivializing it, but it's
comments online.
People care about it, whatpeople notice because I am in
that world.
I look at these things.
So I'm not diminishing theweight of the story and how
important it is.
And I'm not criticizing you,but I'm just saying from the
personal point of view, whatit's like to be inside our

(12:01):
relationship is one, I cannotbelieve what I'm watching.
Like just knowing that we weretalking about this guy,
researching this guy.
I went down the rabbit hole inthis guy as well.
And then knowing when you saidto me that he came in to
confess, I'm like, this guy.

Greg Floyd (12:15):
He didn't come in to confess, he came in and he
confessed.

No, yes, but that wasn't the intention, but
you told me you'll neverbelieve, you know, what
happened.
But it actually shows howquickly, though, I knew you had
to put it together.
That's what I could tell.
Because you hadn't told me youhad no time to put it together.
When I saw the video for thefirst time, I had zero
expectation, none.
And when I saw you on air, I'mlike, damn, this guy put this

(12:37):
together like this.
And even in the beginning, whenyou're sitting down as you were
getting ready to talk, I waswatching you, noticing, I'm
like, this is fascinatingbecause I know you so well.
You normally have notes out,you have your notepad, and
you're so prepared and you're sorehearsed, but your interview
had a different cadence.
And that's what it was, isbecause it really was fluid

(12:59):
because you weren't prepared.

Greg Floyd (13:01):
Exactly.
I just introduced him, and Ithink the first question was,
let's go back to August of 2017.
Tell me what happened.
And we spent eight minutesgoing back and forth, and he had
no intention of confessing andmentioned the Fifth Amendment a
few times.

So, did you know that right away when you
were sitting down with him?
Did it even occur to you thatyou were sitting across from a
killer?

Greg Floyd (13:21):
Yes.

It did occur to you.

Greg Floyd (13:22):
Yes.

Were you ever worried about your safety?

Greg Floyd (13:25):
No.
Because I got caught up in themoment and I was laser focused
on talking with him, making himfeel comfortable, and taking him
where I thought he wanted togo.

Okay, so pace with me on this very slowly,
because this is interesting tome, because you and I didn't
even talk about this.
How tall of a guy is this guy?

Greg Floyd (13:41):
Oh, he's probably uh six feet.
You're taller than five,eleven, six feet.

Okay.
Now, this is gonna sound silly,but is part of the reason why
you weren't concerned about yoursafety is because you're taller
than him?
No.
It just never occurred to you.
It never occurred, no.
Okay, and then what about didanybody worry about?
I think I read in an articlethat he did get patted down?

Greg Floyd (13:58):
He was patted down by my news director who just
wanted to make sure everyone wassafe.

Okay.
So then when he was sittingthere talking to you, like
before when you started inthere, tell me what was going on
in your head.
You as a reporter, are youalready putting the story
together?
Or are you in this case is itdifferent?

Greg Floyd (14:14):
It was somewhere between the two.
Yeah.
Oftentimes, as I'm doinginterviews, I'm thinking, am I
getting what I need out of theinterview?
Am I getting the rightinformation, the information
that's going to help our viewerhelp the story move along?
Here, I knew I had to get toone place.
I knew that I had to get to theplace where he admitted killing
his parents, would tell us howhe killed his parents, why he
killed his parents, and thenwhat happened after.

And then this manifest or the statement.
Did you didn't have time toread it?

Greg Floyd (14:39):
I whipped through it quickly.
I didn't care.
I the statement meant nothingto me and means nothing to
anyone in Albany.
But did the story is whathappened in that house on
Crestwood Court eight years ago.

But did the statement do anything to say
what his state of mind was?
Like that you were dealing withthe same person or an insane
person?

Greg Floyd (14:56):
An interesting, different person.
I'm not a doctor.
I don't know.
I did ask him at one point inthe interview if he was on any
medication, if he felt he was ofsound mind.

Yeah, you did.

Greg Floyd (15:04):
He answered that he was not on medication, that he
was of sound mind, and clearlyhe's a bright individual.
He's a very bright individual.
But again, I felt that hewanted to tell the truth at some
point.
It's been all these years.
He's clearly hidden whathappened all these years.
It was coming to light now.
Let it come fully to light.

Do you think it was more about telling the
truth or getting it off hischest?

Greg Floyd (15:26):
Combination of the two.

Yeah.

And you know what's interesting today as well
is you and I were watching CBSSunday morning.
They did the story about TedKaczynski and Ted Kaczynski's
brother who turned him in.
And the story just intersectedwith this guy in a way.

Greg Floyd (15:41):
In a way, yeah.
Beautifully told story on CBS.

It was an incredible story.
But going back in time to whatTed Kaczynski did, he was the
Unabomber, which I don'tremember Unabomber being
university and airline.
Did you remember that?

Greg Floyd (15:54):
I do, yeah.

You do because you're a journalist.

Greg Floyd (15:56):
It's also a big story in Albany because David
Kaczy, the brother, was workingin Albany at the time that he
turned his brother in.

But the intersection of it, because
Lawrence Krause was anintelligent person.
And he graduated, if I remembercorrectly, at the top of his
class at Siena.
You're a smart guy.
So it does have that kind ofelement, though he didn't hurt
other people different than TedKaczynski.
His crime was literally at homewith his parents.

(16:22):
So now, as he was telling hisstory, could you tell right away
that he was dodging, that hedidn't want to tell the truth,
or did he want to get there?

Greg Floyd (16:30):
Anytime that I got anywhere near what happened,
yes, it was dodging, and I don'twant to talk about that.
He invoked the Fifth Amendmenta couple times.

I have to plead my Fifth Amendment rights until I
can disclose it with mystatement there.
I have to protect my FifthAmendment rights on this.

Greg Floyd (16:42):
But I said, you understand I'm not an officer of
the law, I'm not an officer ofthe court.
I'm a journalist.
So you can tell me whathappened.

Which I thought was very good when I was
watching it.
So it when it aired.
So were you just sitting in thestudio when it aired?

Greg Floyd (16:55):
Yeah, I saw it for the obviously I lived through
it, but I saw it for the firsttime on our six o'clock
broadcast.
We just put a brief portion onat five o'clock, and then we
devoted our entire half hour atsix to running a 24-minute
version of the interview, thefirst 24 minutes of the
interview.
And then I sat transfixed likeI think many other people did.

Okay, I didn't ask you this question before,
but there were a number ofpeople on Reddit, on Facebook,
under the comments andeverything asking, is Greg Floyd
okay?
That was one.

Greg Floyd (17:20):
I appreciate it that people asked that.
Yeah.
Yeah.

They understood the gravity of it.
And I never asked you thisquestion.
I'm asking you now.
You were obviously at theanchor desk, watching it back,
right?
What were you thinking?
What was happening to you atthat moment?

Greg Floyd (17:34):
Like with any interview, you don't remember
the entire interview, evensomething of this magnitude and
nature.
First thing I do after doing aninterview, if it's for one of
my political stories, is I gothrough the tape.
I go through the video andstart making notes and pulling
out sound bites.
And for me, in essence, thatwas what this was, my first
chance of really seeing it.
Because when you're in it, youdon't remember everything you
said, everything he said.

(17:55):
I was not taking any notes, asI often do in other stories.
You might take notes as you goalong.
I was not taking notes becauseI was laser focused on him and
what he was saying and what Icould say in reaction to what he
was saying.

Were you understanding when you were
watching it from a news coveragepoint of view?
Did you think this is adifferent story?
This story has a lot of weight.
Are you is your brain evengoing there yet?

Greg Floyd (18:18):
It was not.
It was not.
My brain was going, I need tofind out what happened in that
house.
As I've told other people, twopeople died, two elderly people
who their son described aschildren of World War II passed
away.
And I just, it still affectsme.
It hits me.
As I think about this, I thinkabout the parents constantly.

When I was watching it, of course I'm
watching it for you naturally.
I'm watching how you're doing.
I'm predicting what you'regonna say.
And a couple times I told youthis.
Like I predicted what yourquestion was gonna be.
I think I know you so well.
Because you are such a goodjournalist, and I'm not saying
this as your girlfriend, I'msaying this.
You really are.
I think you're an exceptionaljournalist, and I knew that you

(18:56):
were gonna handle it well.
And it's not to make the wholeordeal trivial, but I'm watching
it from a viewer point of view,and I'm also watching it from
the news coverage point of view.
In my mind, I'm thinking, doesthis story go viral?
Does this story go national?
And then I'm listening forsound bites, and then I'm also

(19:19):
listening for strategy from you.
I'm watching, where is Greggoing with this?
Because this was a longinterview.
It was like 37 minutes,something like that.

Greg Floyd (19:28):
I mean, it took me eight or nine minutes to get to
the point where he admitted hiscrime.

Yeah, and from the beginning, like he said, one
of the quotes is I did my dutyto my parents.

I did my duty to my parents.
I did my duty to them as a son.
They don't have the same kindof sense of duty to their
parents as I did.

He kept talking about duty, and I felt like he
wanted to justify euthanasia insome sort.
What did you think he wanted todo at that time with sitting
down and talking to you?

Greg Floyd (19:58):
I think initially he just wanted to talk about his
political views in hisstatement, and I never let him
go there.

You never let him go there, no?

Greg Floyd (20:04):
We weren't going there.
But then at some point, Ibelieve that he did want to get
this out, that he knew that it'sdone, that his time is up, that
we're gonna find out whathappened.
So why not come forth and tellus what happened?
And I phrased it that way a fewtimes.
But to answer your questionbefore, or your thought process
before, I wasn't thinking thiswas gonna go viral.

(20:25):
I had no interest in that.
This is not a victory lab.
This is we're justdeconstructing what happened
because there's a lot ofinterest in it out there.
But yes, at some point, Ibelieved he wanted to go there
and that I had to take himthere.

Yeah, but the whole point of this episode and
what you and I have been talkingabout too is naturally this is
my point of view of it.
That's how I'm looking at it.
I'm not the journalist sittingthere trying to get the story
out.
I'm the viewer who's transfixedby this story, and then also
the girlfriend.
But also, I'm in issuesmanagement.
I'm looking at him wondering, Isee what this guy's trying to

(21:02):
do.
I thought it was fascinatingwatching the strategy behind
what he was doing, but watchingthe strategy behind what you
were doing as well.
That is what was mostinteresting to me, is I felt
that he was trying to deflect,like he never wanted to confess
to killing his parents.
He wanted to be the son who wasdutiful and helped his parents.

Greg Floyd (21:24):
And he was setting that up.
He was talking about uh what hesaw as them being growing more
and more infirm, deteriorating.
The examples he gave didn'tsound like examples of people
who were near death.
It sounded like people who,yes, were deteriorating, but not
to the point where their livesneeded to be taken.
Not that their lives evershould be needed to be taken,
but that a son could justify thetaking of their lives bec out

(21:47):
of his love for them in amerciful setting.
It just didn't seem like theywere at that point.
Uh obviously they didn'tdeserve to die, and that's
something that motivated me too,is that I just felt like we
need to to get justice for thesepeople.

Okay.
And I I didn't ask you thisbefore, but I felt watching you
that you were becoming the voiceof the parents.
Like that you were the guardianof the parents in a way.

Greg Floyd (22:09):
Maybe a little bit.

Yeah.
And I think now, just the lastfew days of you processing this.
Do you think that's what'sweighing on you is the parents?

Greg Floyd (22:17):
I that's I do think about that, yes.

You think about them, don't you?
Yeah.

Greg Floyd (22:21):
Yeah, I do.

And without getting it.

Greg Floyd (22:22):
And I'm glad that the world is thinking about
that.

Yeah.
They're getting their they'regetting their justice.
It was what, seven and a halfyears that he eight years, yeah.
Eight years that he got awaywith this.
And what really didn't come upfrom him at all is there was no
justification between I neededto get my parents out of their
misery, but also cashing checksfor almost eight years.

Greg Floyd (22:44):
Yeah.
I'm no expert and I haven'tstudied this yet since then.
But my general feeling is thatwhen they're when mercy killings
do occur, that they are notcovered up, that the killer
believes that they actedcorrectly and they go to the
authorities and tell them whathappened.
My parent was near death, and Iwasn't going to let him or her
suffer another minute, and Itook their life.
And they're often treated withsome degree of compassion.

(23:06):
When obviously this is a debatethat goes on in this country
and other countries all thetime.
But that just didn't seem to bethe case here.
It seemed more cold-blooded tome.
But what I was saying is thathe never turned himself in.
He committed this supposed, inhis mind, mercy killing, but
didn't turn himself in.
Covered up his actions, buriedthem in the backyard, kept
cashing the checks.

(23:26):
He said he was giving thechecks to charity in the
Philippines.
We don't know if that's wedon't know if that's true.
But he clearly knew, and Iasked him, we we talked about it
a little bit, but didn't get asfar as I wanted to go with
that.
If he knew what he did waswrong and he said he didn't feel
it was wrong, but he obviouslyknew it was wrong in the sense
that it legally it was wrongbecause he was covering it up.

And because you are an accountability
journalist, you're known inAlbany for your series.
You paid for it.
You paid for it.
I think that's what you weredoing in this interview.
But you were doing it on behalfof that parent.

Greg Floyd (23:59):
Well, sure, we were holding him accountable.

Holding him accountable.
So as I mentioned, when I waswatching the interview, okay,
I'm listening to sound bites.
I am listening to sound bites,and honestly, I'm thinking,
okay, this is an incrediblestory.
These are the types of storiesthat go viral.
While I'm also watching you,and then for a short part of it,
I was videoing my reaction towatching you for the first time
because I thought, and I said,Greg, this is incredible.

(24:21):
I really thought this was thepinnacle of your career.
It's incredible.
It's not reported a lot, but alot of people on Reddit and
locally in Albany know you'reretiring soon.

Greg Floyd (24:29):
At the end of the year, I am.

Yeah, it's incredible.
But I don't think you canretire until there's some
resolution there because theseparents got to you.
That's true.
They got to you.
So here's one of the about thesound bites.
Like when you would saysomething, I said, This is
what's gonna go viral.
Quote When your parents died,did they know what was happening
to them?

Greg Floyd (24:47):
When your parents died, did they know it was
happening to them?

Right.
And do you remember what he wassaying there?

Greg Floyd (24:52):
He said they did.

Yeah.
And then this is the quote thatwent everywhere.
Like I think every news articlethat I've read that you've been
in, where they've captured it,they said from you, and they
knew it was at your hand.
When I heard you say that, Ithought, okay, remarkable,
because I felt, and tell me ifI'm right or wrong about this,
you didn't want to be harsh andsay, Did you kill him?

(25:15):
Did you strangle?
Like you didn't use those hardwords.
You were coming up with softerversions to get him there.
Am I accurate with that?

Greg Floyd (25:22):
I think you're accurate.
I was trying to be polite tohim and have a civil discourse.
And yes, and at that point too,I didn't know.
I was in the dark, I didn'tknow how he killed them.
So I I guess that it was eitherwith some kind of drug or
poison or a suffocation.
I was envisioning possiblyusing a pillow to just suffocate
them if they were so infirm.

That would be you and I never talked about
this.
This point of it is that when Iwas watching you, I thought,
does he know how he did it?
We were watching you think inreal time.

Greg Floyd (25:50):
That's right.

Trying to figure out how he did it.

Greg Floyd (25:53):
And when I I think I said No, was that your hand?
Well, yes, no one else.

That was the confession.
Greg, that was unbelievablycompelling video, watching that.
That was incredible when hesaid that.
I said there's he justconfessed.
You got him to confess.

Greg Floyd (26:12):
And I think then after that, I asked him how he
did it.

Yes.

Greg Floyd (26:15):
I said, because I've only watched this once.
Uh I did not want to watch it.
I will watch it again, but Ihave not watched it again since.
So every line is not fresh inmy head.
But I believe then I said, Didyou use some sort of poison or
drugs?
And he said, No.
And I said, Did you suffocatethem?
And he just put his head backand went, Were there drugs
involved?
Was there a suffocation?
Was there you suffocated them.

Yeah.
My gosh, Greg, that part ofthat interview was astounding.
People don't normally hearpeople for the first time say it
out loud.
I think that's what it was.
That was the first time heconfessed it.
And also when you were bringinghim there to explain what he
did, he said my father mighthand if I'm a mother a rope.

So he as he put it, he denied them oxygen.

My father died very quickly, like surprisingly
quickly.

You know, I think my father uh died very quickly,
uh surprisingly quickly,quickly.
And he also He said after thatthat the mother then put her
head on his chest.
Um my father, and he after hedied, my mother put her head on
his chest.

I I think that's the part that got you
there.
That's when it started to sinkin with you.

Greg Floyd (27:19):
The next line is the one that really got me.
And I said, Then did you killher?
And he said, Not for a fewhours later.
I finished her.

She was there for a few hours and then um I
finished her.
It was that line.
I finished her.

It but Greg, that's why this interview is so
and I know you at a much deeperlevel than most people know you.
And I know how you want toreport stories.
You always want to get to thetruth of the matter.
And I knew you wanted to getthere's no way he was leaving
without confessing to what hedid.
But watching it, that's when Inoticed I thought it's those
parents are getting to you.

(27:53):
It's that I think that was likealmost in a way, it was like
driving you to get justice forthem, too.
Have this guy takeaccountability for it.
Okay.
So then did you know at thatpoint when he admitted it?
What did you think?

Greg Floyd (28:05):
I thought I've got to keep getting more
information.
Really?
It wasn't like, okay, you'veadmitted it, interview over.
No.
I when we kept talking.
I keep going back to I I wantedto know when did you bury them?
How long were they in thehouse?
They were in the house for daysbefore he buried them.
How long was it before youburied them?
Um approximately.
Two or three days, actually.
And why did he how did hechoose to do that and how did he

(28:27):
do it?
And he talked about that, andwe covered that ground.
And I thought it was importantto hear more details about that.
I remember thinking, especiallyas soon as it was over, did I
ask enough questions?
Did I go to enough places?
Did I get enough background onhim, enough background on his
parents?
But people seem to think thatwe got just what we needed.

Aaron Powell It really was.
And the fact that it was 37minutes, but you also did now I
did a social media post aboutthat afterwards, and I think one
of the reasons why that videoworked so well, why the
interview works so is you lethim speak, you let him go when
he was talking about hisparents, but whenever he wanted
to talk about the statement, youallowed him a beat or two to

(29:06):
keep him involved, but youwouldn't let him go much
further.
You cut it.
It's like you had no time forthe statement.
And then also you said, nowherehere in the statement does it
say that you admit to killinganything.
Like you you were cornering himand pressuring him.
It really is incredible.
Do you feel like you broughtjustice to the parents?

Greg Floyd (29:23):
Partial justice.
Obviously, the courts will dothat.
So, yes, in some way, yes.
Do you feel any guilt?
In some ways, yes.
What?
It's still obviously I don'thave any doubt in my mind that
he killed them in cold blood andthey didn't deserve to die.
But I still have I've donestories before with politicians
who have done bad things withmoney, who have cheated the
taxpayer out of money, and havegone to prison as a result.

(29:44):
But they didn't go directly toprison after my interviews.
That was part of the process.
And there were in this case, hewas arrested in our parking lot
the minute he left me.
And I think about that thatthis man is now behind bars
right after he told me what hedid.
And I don't want to sound LikeI'm soft or anything, but I
think about that.
He's in the right place, he'swhere he should be, no doubt

(30:05):
about it.

So a man went to jail at your hand, and that
makes you feel guilty for hisfate.

Greg Floyd (30:11):
Doesn't make me feel guilty.
It just makes me think.

Makes you think that someone's life, the
trajectory changed because ofsomething that you did in life.

Greg Floyd (30:19):
Well, you know what?
It changed because of what hedid.
Not what I did.
It changed because of what hedid.

And he was going to jail regardless.

Greg Floyd (30:24):
At some point.

Yeah.
Now, what about the arrest atthe station?
Now, did you know that wasgoing to happen as soon as he
left the station?

Greg Floyd (30:31):
I did not know, but we were aware that he was being
followed and surveilled and thatthe police knew he was at our
station.

How did the police know he was at your
station?

Greg Floyd (30:40):
Because they were following him.

Oh, because they were following him in the
car anyway.

Greg Floyd (30:44):
Yes.
And our news director had didtalk with the police because he
wanted to make sure everyone wassafe and that we didn't do
anything to jeopardize what thepolice were doing.

Did you know he was going to get arrested as
soon as he walked out the door?

Greg Floyd (30:56):
I did not, but I looked out the door and I saw
quite a few officers out thereand I put two and two together.

Were you shocked?
No.

Greg Floyd (31:02):
Weren't at that point.

Okay, so what time was he rested?
What time?

Greg Floyd (31:07):
It was about 4 35 or so.

And you went on the air at five.
So someone in your newsroom hadto turn, like a producer had to
turn that around?

Greg Floyd (31:15):
Yes.
And it which is also a littletough with our system.
You had to get the whole 35minutes into the system and then
turn it around.
I'm on the news desk at 458,459, and the producer's talking
to my air and saying, It's notthere yet, it's not there yet,
it's not there yet.
And I'm thinking, oh my god.

Broadcast news, Aaron.

Greg Floyd (31:33):
But it got there.

Yes.
Okay.
But really, this is straightout of broadcast news.
When Joan Cusack is running thetape down and everything.
So when you went on the air atfive, you knew that you had the
tape.
And they at five, they just dida clip of it, right?

Greg Floyd (31:45):
We did a couple of minutes of it.

Yeah.
And then did you know then atsix you were going to run the
entire interview?

Greg Floyd (31:50):
Yes.

Okay.
So then that night it it hits.
So what is your newsroom likeas soon as you get off the air
from Anchoring?

Greg Floyd (31:57):
Everyone was astounded.
I found out that something wasgoing on, that something was
happening with this intervieworganically and virally, right
away at six o'clock.
My phone started blowing up.
And people are writing to meand saying, wow, my jaw is on
the floor.
I just I can't believe what Ijust saw.
I'm hearing that over and overfrom people from all walks of
life, friends, acquaintances,the politicians who I confront

(32:17):
at the Capitol.
As I told you, I was up untilwell after midnight because I
was just trying to be polite andanswer all these nice emails
and texts that I was getting.
Yes.
And that's when I said, there'sthis is more than just a news
story.

And you never really thought about the story
itself from the coverage pieceof it.
That's that was me.
That's what I was doing.
And I noticed too when ithappened, I thought this is
going to be a national story,but I was curious how long does
it take?
Because a headline, SonConfesses to Killing Parents to
a Television Journalist, is oncamera.

(32:55):
That's an incredibly compellingstory.
And even the New York Times, sonow fast forward Friday morning
was the next morning.
I think the first place wherewe saw it was it went to other
affiliates.
They picked it up.
The New York Post picked it upand went, ah, there's the first
viral hit that I saw.
But then on Saturday, you and Iwere driving, and that's when I

(33:18):
had you listen to the New YorkTimes article.
We found out it made the NewYork Times.
And you loved this.

Greg Floyd (33:24):
I just thought their first line was very
descriptive.
That's all.
I just thought it was a goodpiece of writing.

Yeah, but the reason why the New York Times
story was so good is that it setthe scene.

Greg Floyd (33:33):
Right.

You know, that it's just two people sitting
there in two chairs.
Yeah, that they even picked upthat details as well.
Now talk to me quickly aboutthe jailhouse interview.

Greg Floyd (33:43):
That came out of the So on Friday, he was arraigned
in Albany City Court, where hepleaded not guilty as you
basically must do at that point.
And he was sent to the AlbanyCounty jail.
So I immediately texted thesheriff of the Albany County
Jail to say, listen, is he thereyet?
And if he is, can you ask himif he'll do an interview?
And I got a response back veryquickly saying interviews ago.

(34:03):
So we were you shocked?
I was.

Now, did other news outlets do the same thing?

Greg Floyd (34:08):
I had a feeling they would.
And so we race over there as weare walking in.
There's another news outletpulling in behind us.
So I was the first one there.
And we set up in the room wherefamilies get to meet with
inmates, you know, in a heavilycontrolled situation.
The guards were there.
Hold on.

Have you ever done a jailhouse interview
before?

Greg Floyd (34:26):
Not in a long time.
Okay.
In a long time.

Okay.

Greg Floyd (34:28):
So we're set up.
As I was setting up, I saw aman in a suit walk out of a room
that's set aside for lawyers tomeet with their clients.
And he was meeting with a youngwoman who was an inmate at the
jail.
And when he walked out, he gaveme a wave and a nod, and I gave
him one back.
And we get set up for theinterview.
And I see out of the corner ofmy eye, that man in a suit is
standing there.
I didn't know why.

(34:49):
I ask Mr.
Krause one question, maybe two,and all of a sudden I hear
that's it.
The interview's over.

Was it a loving relationship you had with your
defender's office?
Um not in a loving I wouldn'tcharacterize it as loving.

Greg Floyd (35:03):
And I said, turn around and said respectfully, I
thought that the woman who waswith him in court this morning
was his lawyer.
And he said, We work togetherin the public defender's office.
The office is his lawyer, and Iam ending this interview.
And I say to Lawrence, Do youwant to end the interview?
And he said, No, I can keeptalking.
So I just went right back intotalking as if the lawyer was.

Why did you know to push back on that?

Greg Floyd (35:24):
Because I'm sitting there with him and and I didn't
feel good that this man wasreally his lawyer, to be honest.
Yeah, okay.

All right.
You were pushing it.

Greg Floyd (35:32):
It worked, and we kept talking.
And we I asked probably six orseven or eight more questions.
And then I asked him somethingagain, very specific about the
crime.
And the lawyer basically said,I'm not quoting him exactly
correctly.
He said, That's it.
This interview's over.
Lawrence, stand up right nowand walk out with me.
And at that point, Lawrencedid.
And Lawrence, again, as he wastalking a couple of times,

(35:52):
referred to the lawyer, lookedover at him and said, I don't
feel right answering with him.
And I said, You don't dowhatever you feel, but I'm going
to keep asking you questions.
And so we finished thatinterview.
It was a much shorterinterview.
And yeah.
But what came out of thatinterview was that we talked
about his relationship with hisparents.
Yes.
And he told me that it was aharsh relationship.

(36:13):
And I asked him if it was aloving relationship, and he said
no, it was not.

Was it a loving relationship you had with your
parents?
Um not in a loving I I Iwouldn't characterize it as
loving.

That was the part of that interview that I
thought was astounding becauseyou were again, you were going
back to the parents, you weregoing back to the family life.
Also, what drove you to askthat question?

Greg Floyd (36:33):
Because I just wanted to know more about his
parents.
And he gave me very perfunctoryanswers about his dad was uh he
worked at GE and his mom triedto be a teacher, but that didn't
always work out.
But I just heard something theway he was talking.
It just didn't sound like theway a person talks about their
parents.
So I asked him about the I justasked about the relationship.
He may have been offeredsomething at first, and then I

(36:53):
just went with it.
I don't remember for sure.

Yeah, the jailhouse interview was just as
interesting to me.
You said, this is to Lawrence,since you told me yesterday that
you killed your parents, do youfeel a sense of relief today?
And this answer surprised me.
Not any extra relief.
No, not at all.

Greg Floyd (37:09):
Aaron Ross Powell But then I asked him again, and
he said there was some relief.

But the first time though, he said no, that
surprised me.

Greg Floyd (37:14):
Yeah, it surprised me too.
That's why I asked the questiona second time.
Really?

Oh, see, now that's just good journalism
there.
And that's also when he startedto go down the rabbit hole.
He said, I appeal to ancientGerman law.
I'm making the claim that I'mthe initial trustee of the New
York State Board of Trustees.
And that's why I'm thinking inyour head when I'm watching,
going, you don't care about anyof this.

Greg Floyd (37:34):
I think my response to him he said, I'm pleading to
be tried through that board oftrustees as a and I said, that's
not gonna happen.

No, and again, and I know you're a journalist,
you do not let emotions come in.
You don't.
But I th these parents got toyou when you said this.
Quote, but who are you todecide other than being their
son?
Can you play God?
You did not, it's as if thisarrogance of him and what he did
to those parents sat so poorlywith you.

(38:03):
You were not letting him getaway with that.

Greg Floyd (38:05):
Yeah, and I wanted to ask, and that right around
there is where the lawyer cut itoff, somewhere around there.
Because I wanted to ask morespecifically, how does a person
know that end of life is nearand that if I allow them to live
another day, they're gonna bein horrible pain?
Or I guess I never believedthat they were any not that I
believe a mercy killing, that'sa whole different thing.
And it's not for me to say ifit's good or bad.

(38:26):
But I just don't think this isanywhere near the level of where
your typical mercy killingmight be, if that makes any
sense.
And I don't want to say thewrong thing here, but I know you
don't.

I don't want to say it's a personal story to
you, but there's a personalaspect to you, to the story that
you're processing as you do it.
Wouldn't you agree that I'veknown you a long time, you've
done a lot of stories.
This one has affected you in away that most stories really
don't.
You just get to the truth ofthe matter.

Greg Floyd (38:51):
Most stories don't have this subject matter.

Yeah.

Greg Floyd (38:54):
It's it's those parents and also And sitting
face to face with the person whodid it.
A killer.

Yeah.

Greg Floyd (38:59):
I should be saying as a journalist and alleged
killer, but he told me he didit.

And now the DA is involved.
Governor Kathy Hokel spokeabout it on her statement.
Quote, this is so beyond thepale to contemplate the hatred
in someone's heart.
Now that so what's the nextphase of the story?

Greg Floyd (39:16):
There's still forensic evidence to be gathered
or analyzed.
Autopsies have to be done.
We don't know the condition ofthe remains, what they'll be
able to determine.
And then the legal process willhave to play out.
I don't want to get intoanything about whether this will
be used as part of the legalprocess.
I don't know.
I don't know what he has saidto authorities since I talked to

(39:38):
him twice.
They could have been meetingwith him all weekend.
We'll find out more on Monday.
But it's a legal process toplay out, and we'll have to see.
Apparently he doesn't havemoney.
That's why the public defender,at least for now, is defending
him because he claims he gavehis money, the money that he was
getting from Social Security atleast, away.
There'll be a lot to play outhere.
But the legal process, it's aslow process, and it'll take
some time, and let's just hopethey get it right.

I think you did an outstanding job.
I watching it from the viewerpoint of view, I think Lawrence
knew what he was doing.
I think it's a financial crime.
I think he's into crypto.
I think he knew what he wasdoing.
I think he was sane minded.
I don't think he had a goodrelationship with his parents.

Greg Floyd (40:15):
And you're not going to make it on the jury.

No, they will not be calling me to be on the
jury at all.
But you and I were talkingabout it on Saturday.
We were having a nice docksidelunch.
Or decompression.
Yeah, decompression, goingthrough reading all the articles
and talking about it.
And I thought, if anyone waslistening to us right now,
they're thinking, what are thesetwo people talking about?
But we were reading thedifferent articles, and what sat

(40:38):
with us, because like you, theparents, it just feels like
these parents clearly did notdeserve to die.
And his narrative is that theywere infirmed and they were
almost already, I was takingthem out of their misery, but it
was the tomatoes.
The New York Times brought upthe tomatoes.
What was it about the tomatoesthat got to us?

Greg Floyd (40:57):
It's thinking if a person is planting tomatoes,
they're certainly capable ofliving in a fairly rich life.
They're not at the end of life.

Exactly.
They have plans.
They have plans for tomatoes,don't grow overnight, they go
through the season and they'reand he said that his parents
were implying that they wantedit to be over.
No.

Greg Floyd (41:16):
You don't plant tomatoes when you want your life
to be over.

I know.
And then when we were buyingtomatoes at the farmer's market
today, honestly, I was thinking.
And I didn't want to bring itup because this morning you had
this dream, like this guiltdream.
But it's like, I don't know,that you're doing your job and
you always do your job.
You are the best journalist Iknow.
But I think these parents, youwant accountability for these
parents.

Greg Floyd (41:37):
And we'll see what happens.

Yeah.
All right, Gregory.
Let me do a journalistic trick,if you will.
Is there anything else you'dlike to add?

Greg Floyd (41:45):
No, I think we covered it pretty well.
You can see the interview onour YouTube page, our CBS Six
Albany YouTube page.
Because I I think after hearingthis podcast, that if people
haven't seen it, it mightbehoove them to check it out.

And we're going to be talking about basically.
Yeah, absolutely.
And tomorrow you're scheduled,we don't know if it's going to
happen, but you're scheduled todo an interview with CBS
Morning.

Correct.

Yeah, so they're going to do a story
about that.
And I think there are a lot ofcomments on social media.
One, some asking if you wereokay, many saying that you're an
incredible interrogator, thatyou should go into police work
after this.
That's what I thinkoverwhelming most people said.
Some people question theinvolvement of a journalist, and
now none of this is admissiblein court because he pled the

(42:29):
fifth and you were asking himquestions.
But this is where I give youcredit, like that you were
juggling this entire interviewand you said, I'm not.
What were your words?

Greg Floyd (42:37):
I think I said I'm not an officer of the law.
I'm not an officer of thecourt.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm just a journalist.

Yeah, that was good.
And Greg, I am going to singwith the chorus of everyone
else.
That was an incredibleinterview.
And I so it's one thing towatch it as a viewer and someone
who watches news and followsnews and tracks it, especially
viral news, but also as yourpartner in life.
I was so proud of you.

Greg Floyd (43:02):
Thank you.
But again, it's important to methat this is not seen like you
and I talking about this oranything I do when I talk to
people, it's not a victory lab.

I know.
You won't take it as one.

Greg Floyd (43:11):
Because it shouldn't be, because the stakes are too
high here.
Again, it's the deaths of twopeople who went through a lot in
life and just I don't thinkdeserve to have their lives
ended at that point.
And I just don't think we canforget that.
That this we can't revel in anyway about this interview
because of what brought it on.

No, but what we can point out, which is what I
wanted to point out in thisepisode, is from a journalistic
point of view.
And also there are news editorsright now who are likely
showing this interview to youngreporters.
This was, it's an overusedword, but it really was a master

(43:48):
class in reporting, inuncovering a story, in finding,
trying to find accountabilitythrough asking questions.
And Greg, I appreciate whatyou're saying and I understand,
but I will say it on yourbehalf, even though I know you
don't want it.
It was astounding journalism towatch it happen in real time.
It really was.

Greg Floyd (44:09):
And if people can learn from that, I'm fine with
that.
That's great.
I just don't want it to be acase where we're taking credit.

I don't think anyone is.
And your station isn't, andyou're you definitely are not.
I can say that from the behindthe scenes.
It's weighing on you, but alsoI think you're just happy that
when it's journalism done theright way.
Would you agree?
Sure.
I'll go with that.
Yeah.
And also, these were two peoplewho it's some people were
curious about them and wonderingabout them, but for almost
eight years nothing was done forthese people, and now there is

(44:38):
justice for them.

Greg Floyd (44:39):
I also wonder if it might make people think, and I
know you want to wrap up here,and I thank you for giving me
the time, but I also wonder ifit might make people think about
keeping a closer eye on theirneighbors.

Yes.

Greg Floyd (44:49):
And not that anyone on that street did anything
wrong, but the this couple wasthere one day and gone the next.
And I don't want to criticizeany neighbors.
And I believe that Mr.
Krause had told them that hisparents moved back to Germany,
but it might not have hurt tocontact authorities then.
Not that that would havestopped the killings.
But I just think it's a goodidea.
I just think it's a goodreminder to keep track of your

(45:09):
neighbors, to keep track of theelderly, of seniors.
But just that, yeah, we are allin this together.
And if you can keep track ofpeople and be a good neighbor,
maybe that's a lesson learnedhere.

Yeah, and you're not spending a lot of
time in the comments, I am, onsocial media.
I think you're right.
It there's that story that'sthere, because a lot of people
talked about that.
And the New York Times didreally good reporting, and your
station did as well,interviewing the neighbors.
Neighbors knew, but theythought it was odd.
But then again, in societytoday, not everybody gets into
people's.

Greg Floyd (45:37):
You don't want to stick your nose in other
people's business.
Exactly.
But maybe a little stickingyour nose in a little bit of the
business might not be.

When it concerns you, but Greg, here's
another little narrative thatcame up in the commentary.
So many people talking, kids,sandwich generation, as
caregivers.
What it's like to be acaregiver to parents at that
stage.
And so many are saying how hardit is.

Greg Floyd (46:00):
But what he did is not the answer.
Find your help.

Yes.
But I think what people didwhen they watched it, and so
many people, let's say this inthe comments, they watched every
minute of that interview.
Watched it.
And I read a lot of thecomments about people who were
taking care of elderly parents.
And they all said the samething.
Yes, it's hard work.
Yes, it's hard on the soul,it's hard on the body.
But obviously, you would neverdo that to your parents.

(46:25):
But that's where they felt thathe was so culpable of guilt
because there's just a differentamount of care, even though it
is a burden to kids, there'sstill so much care there.
You you would never even think,you know, of that.
And I think that's what But Iwould stress there's help out
there.

Greg Floyd (46:38):
Yeah.
And you have to find it.

So thank you for sharing your side of the
story with me.
But also in this podcast, thatyou could bring in the kind of
inside perspective, insidebaseball, from a journalist's
point of view.
It's a hard story, it's a heavystory, but it's still just a
news story, too, right?
It is, yes.
Yeah.
And I appreciate you letting mebring the private side out as
well.

Greg Floyd (46:59):
That's okay.
We're a team.

Yes, exactly.
All right.
So, Greg, where can people findthis full interview?
I know I have it in the shownotes, but where is it also?

Greg Floyd (47:08):
It's on the CBS 6 Albany YouTube page and on our
CBS6 Albany website, uh, on ourFacebook page as well.
So it's out there in quite afew places.
But there's, I think, a24-minute version and a
30-something minute version aswell.

And there's also the jailhouse interview as
well.
Right.
Yeah, both of them together.

Greg Floyd (47:25):
So if you're and our full coverage too, other
stories that we've did leadingup to it and that we've done
since.

Yeah, so this isn't the end of the story.
I think it will definitely havea life at your station, but
it's also going to have a lifein true crime.
I think that other people aregoing to highlight the story in
the future.
So you did a good job, Greg.

Greg Floyd (47:42):
Thank you for the help.

All right.
That's all for this edition ofthe PR Breakdown podcast.
Thanks so much for listening.
Bye for now.

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