May 27, 2025 • 52 mins
Finding your authentic voice as a content creator can be challenging, but Dan Woerheide's journey offers valuable insights. After launching several podcasts since 2019, he discovered his true calling after recognizing that speaking was easier for him than writing. Overcoming the discomfort of hearing his own voice, Dan built confidence and learned that consistency is more important than perfection.
His transition from seeking external validation to finding internal alignment was crucial. A turning point came during a sunrise walk when he understood that his military background enriches his coaching message without restricting his audience. This clarity inspired The Unbreakable Mission, which he describes as "a community disguised as a podcast."
Dan's philosophy challenges industry norms. He believes in "okay for now with steady improvement," allowing creators to move past perfectionism. As he says, "If I can positively impact one life, that's exciting."
Ready to conquer your content creation fears? Take Dan's advice: ignore the noise, hit record, and focus on improvement. Your audience is eager to hear your unique voice.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It always brings me so much joy whenever I can
spotlight members of thiscommunity and today is no
different.
I am so excited to have DanWarheide on the podcast today.
Dan has been someone that hascontributed so positively to our
Podcasters Connect communityand we've been friends a long
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time Like I'm just going to goahead and call it out.
We were actually talking aboutit in the interview, like how
long have we known each other?
And it's been a minute.
So we have seen each other'sjourneys go up down all around
and I am so grateful to Dansaying yes to coming on the show
and sharing all about hisjourney of starting multiple
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podcasts, pivoting in verydifferent ways and settling on
what he's doing today and thedecisions that he made to get
there, because I know y'all lovea good story and you'll love it
when we break down thosepractical and tactical things
that you can do on your contentjourney.
But a little bit more about Dan.
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Dan helps entrepreneurs, coachesand leaders push past fear,
build resilience and execute ata higher level.
He created the UnbreakableMission, his newest podcast.
For those ready to embraceextreme ownership,
challenge-based growth.
For those ready to embraceextreme ownership,
challenge-based growth andrelentless execution no more
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excuses, just realaccountability and
high-performance strategies tohelp you step up and own your
mission.
So are you ready?
Let's get right to it.
Welcome to the Profit Podcast,where we teach you how to start,
launch and market your contentwith confidence.
I'm your host, crystal Prophet,and I'm so excited that you're
here.
Thanks for hanging out with metoday, because if you've been
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trying to figure out the worldof content creation, this is the
show that will help be yourtime-saving shortcut.
So let's get right to it, shallwe All right, everybody, I'm so
happy for today's guest.
Welcome to the show, dan.
How are you today?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Crystal, thank you so much.
I'm excited and I'm doing great.
I can't complain.
I live at the beach.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Right, I mean like so tell everybody where you're
located.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm in Cape Canaveral , florida, and if that doesn't
sound familiar, it's right nextdoor to the world famous Cocoa
Beach.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Awesome, awesome.
Yeah, I mean a Friday, so we'rerecording this on a Friday too,
so it's a Friday at a greattime of year near the beach.
I'm jealous.
I'm just going to say I'mjealous.
I wish I could go to the beachright after we're done recording
this, because that soundsincredible.
I'm going to take the dogs fora walk to the beach right after
we're done recording this,because that sounds incredible.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I'm gonna take the dogs for a walk to the beach
right after this, so there yougo so now you're just rubbing it
in a bad foot, dan.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Come on, come on.
Well, if you can't tell, danand I, we go way back.
Uh, I was trying to rememberwhen.
When did we first kind of crosspaths?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
yeah, it was like the latter part of 2019 if I was
thinking about that this morning, so yeah, yeah, so we've.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
We've crossed paths in a few, a few different ways
and it's been really cool to seeyour journey unfold as a
podcaster.
And I mean, as we sit heretoday, dan has launched not one
but two, but multiple podcastsand you know figuring out what
it means to be a podcaster andreally hone in on your message
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and your strategy, and so that'swhy I wanted Dan to come on
today and share his story.
He's a member of our PodcastersConnect community and I put a
poll out in the group and I waslike, hey, you may want to come
on the podcast and severalpeople responded.
I'm so grateful that Dan is avalued member of our community,
but I want to give you a chanceto introduce yourself.
(03:52):
Can you tell us a little bitabout your podcast journey, how
it started and where it is today?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, absolutely I'd love to share and I appreciate
the opportunity.
So, like you said, 2019, youknow is when we were sort of
first introduced and at themoment I was hearing all the
buzz about podcasting and, ofcourse, all the experts were
saying you should have a podcastand okay, great, let me see
what that's about.
(04:18):
And you know, you don't knowwhat you don't know.
That's probably the first thingI would say, and I still feel I
had this this morning actuallywith with another group, and you
might think, after four shows,that I have some idea, and maybe
I do, but I still feel likethere's so much I don't know and
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that's kind of where it allstarted is.
I was like, ok, I don't knowwhat all is required for this
podcasting thing, and so Istarted digging into that, and
that's when I came across yourcontent and what I loved about
that, what connected me to yourcontent in the first place, was
just how simple you made thewhole thing.
I love tech and so even for meit was like, ok, I don't know
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what all goes to what.
It was a bit intimidating and Ididn't want to spend the time
to figure it all out by myself.
You made it super simple tofigure it out and like plug and
play, almost.
So my mission then is differentthan now, but then it was.
I wanted to create a podcast inconjunction with my business.
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That gave me a voice, to buildan audience.
You know all the thingsmarketing speak that we could
talk about, and I don't knowthat that's particularly
important.
I think what's important wasjust how challenging it felt and
, in the end, at the end of theday, how simple it really was to
just hit record.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, thank you so much forsharing that and I mean I'm just
I'm so grateful to be like asmall piece of your journey and
to you know, you have kind ofbeen brought into the fold and
hung out with us and I'm againjust grateful to be part of your
journey.
But I actually want to go backto a question that I don't know
that we really talked aboutbefore, but a lot of questions
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that I get asked today, whichyou know 2019 was a different,
you know, like environment ofhow, like technologies come so
far in just a few years and howI think it's easier than ever to
start a podcast in 2025 than itwas in 2019.
But did you ever, along the way, ask yourself should I start a
blog?
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Should I start a podcast?
Should I start a YouTubechannel, because I still get
this question all the time orshould I just have social media?
Should I just have an emaillist?
Is that something that was adecision you made on your
journey?
Or you were like, oh, I think Ishould have a podcast, I'm just
going to start a podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
You know it's so funny because I think we connect
on that particular topic.
I've heard your story before.
I won't steal your thunder, ofcourse, but I had been trying to
figure out blogging.
Like I knew what blogging was,I knew how to do the technical
aspects of blogging.
That was actually pretty simpleto figure out.
What was hard to figure out wasputting my words in writing,
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and so what attracted me topodcasting and I think this is
where it ties back to your storyis the ability to use my voice
instead of my writing, and thatjust that created a whole
different set of problems.
I'll just throw that out therenow we can talk about it.
But you know that it seemedmuch easier than sitting down to
write on a blank page.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And it's.
I love that you share this,because we do have that in
common, 100%.
I was like, oh my gosh, I couldjust talk.
This is I can just hit recordand start talking.
This is incredible, but I was.
I was recently.
I just wrote today's newsletterabout this too.
I mean, this is coming out waylater than when we're recording
today, but I was just talking tosomeone about this.
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I would love to hear what thoseother challenges were, because I
hear this all the time when itcomes to someone who is just
recording their very firstpodcast episode.
And they're like Crystal, I'vespoken on stages, I've been on
all these different platformsspeaking in front of people,
like with physical people in theroom, like looking at me,
staring at me.
Yeah, I'm sweating, but I didit and it's amazing.
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But why, when I sit in myoffice or my room or in my
closet to record with just amicrophone, why do I feel so
anxious, so awkward, like mypalms are sweating and I'm like?
I'm just like.
Why is it such a thing?
So I would love to know yourtake on some of those challenges
you had when you first startedtrying to record yourself.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, let me caveat that a little bit and say that I
had previously done interviewsin person, and so when I started
, I started a little bitopposite of what many people I
hear start out, and I wentstraight interview based,
because that made it easy for meto talk to people and record it
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.
And now what stopped me or whatgave me chills or made my palms
sweaty wasn't anything to dowith that or the process.
It was hearing my own voice ona recording.
I couldn't stand it.
What I've learned, you know,talking to many other people, is
that there's a large percentageof the population that, if they
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record their voice, experiencethat same feeling, and so that
that was probably one ofexperience, that same feeling,
and so that was probably one ofthe biggest challenges up front.
The next one was, of course,solo.
Content was intimidating to me,probably for the same reasons
that writing was intimidating tome.
It was okay, well, what am Igoing to write about?
Okay, now what am I going to?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
talk about.
I'm sitting here thinking aboutwhat it's like to edit your own
podcast and exactly what you'resaying.
It's like you're listening toit, even if it's an interview,
and we are so gracious to ourguests.
We're like oh my gosh, they'recrushing it.
This is incredible.
They sound amazing.
And then, the minute it turnsto our own voice, we're like oh,
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you sound like an idiot.
Why did you say um?
Seven times?
Like, we just turn into our ownworst critic immediately.
So thank you for sharing that,because I think that that is
where a lot of people do,because, like you said, a great
amount of the population, Ibelieve, suffers from that, and
I think it's one of those thingsthat we should talk about more
that you're not alone.
Like, if you don't like yourvoice, it's okay, I didn't like
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my voice, dan didn't like hisvoice.
Like, you're in good companyhere.
Like, just hang out with us andwe'll help you push through
that.
Because how do you feel today?
Like, so now you've hadmultiple podcasts, you've
recorded a lot, do you stilledit your own podcast, or is
that something that yououtsource?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
No, I still edit all of my own and I'll tell you a
secret, crystal you might like,this is I do very little editing
and I say that on purposebecause I think I've seen so
many people in differentcommunities talking about this
topic and how many hours theyinvest in editing and it's like
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I don't want to do that and if Iget to that point I'll
absolutely outsource it.
But I do very little editingand I've learned just to be
comfortable with what I put out.
There is okay for now and Icontinue to work on steady
improvement.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, and we're in the same boat, like we're 100%
in the same boat.
You taught me that, yeah, butthat's the thing it's like.
I don't think you would besitting here today having how
many episodes do you thinkhundreds of episodes under your
belt that you've recorded overthe years.
What would be your guess?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, I'm at least close to 500 overall.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, and I think about if you hadn't just started
or gotten so caught up with itlike you might still be, like so
many of our dear listeners,like I love y'all.
This is my tough love to you isyou're sitting there so hard on
yourself, or you're so anxiousthat you know your voice doesn't
sound great, or I hate thesound of my voice and you
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continue to not publish thethings that you're recording and
it just breaks my heart because, man, if you could just get it
out there, get it out into theworld, dan, and I can promise
you like it gets so much easier,so much easier.
So, with such a milestone, likewhat was the one where you
finally felt like, oh, I'm apodcaster or, oh, I found my
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stride, is there a specificmilestone that you hit that
you're like, okay, I got this,like I can do this?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
You know that is such a great question and I don't
have a specific episode or aspecific time period.
It's been actually fairlyrecently.
I went through this journey ofself-discovery and I was dead
set on doing a bunch of thingsagainst the grain, but it was on
purpose.
So I'll share briefly.
I started a podcast.
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The intent was simply to be asolo podcast because I wanted to
challenge myself in thatcreative space that I had
struggled with, and I also didit intentionally, not to grow it
, intentionally not to do all ofthe things that you might hear
people telling you you have todo or should do with a podcast.
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My only focus for the podcastwas to intentionally
continuously be in touch withthe creative process, produce
and publish, and if it benefitedsomebody, that was wonderful.
Well, that led me to where I'mat now and so that, I would say,
was more of a catalyst thananything for actually feeling
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like I'm a podcaster and I'mdoing something with intention
that is, a creative product,whereas before it felt businessy
, it felt like I was doingthings but not for the right
reasons, and so I would say thatit wasn't really aligned with
me from that perspective.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah Well, I love that we're getting into the
nitty gritty of this, becausethat actually makes me think
about there's a lot of peoplelistening that do have a
business component tied to theirpodcast and they constantly ask
me how do you bridge that gapwhere it doesn't feel so salesy
or you're not making a pitch inevery single episode but you're
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making deeper connections withyour audience?
Is there a happy balance thatyou found in your episodes?
Are you still just showing upand you know, recording with
intention and just saying what'son your heart, like how does
your podcast play into yourlarger business model?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So that's a great question.
I'm I'm a coach and I coach byinvitation and referral
Typically.
You know that doesn't mean thatI wouldn't like creating new
connections and I look at mypodcast and everything else that
I do is an opportunity tocreate potential connections and
you know you never anopportunity to create potential
connections and you know younever know where those
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conversations may lead.
So that's my focus for all ofthe things that I'm doing, to
include the podcast.
And the distinction here is,before I was actually doing a
lot of things focused on theexternal potential, like I need
to create sales or want tocreate sales, or I want to
create a client from this, andit just well, like I said, it
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never felt aligned.
And so this, this is more inalignment with what I'm doing
and why I'm doing all of them.
So what I really want to do isspeak from where I'm at and
what's on my heart and mind, toshare and be happy with what I'm
putting out there myself firstand just show up as who I am and
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who it is that well, I want youto see me for and I'm careful
how I say that because I'm notfaking it this is who I am.
This is what you get If youdecide to hire me as your coach.
This is who you get.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, and do you find it's easier to record your
content to coming at it fromthat capacity?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
So much easier just to sit down and hit record and,
and we'll call it get into thatflow Right and, and I I have to
have it.
I used to do a lot of free flowstuff without a script, without
the bullet points.
I had my talking points in myhead, I knew what I wanted to
communicate and I would just hitrecord and talk.
(16:15):
Well, now I have to be reallycareful, so I at least have
bullet points.
Sometimes I script certainthings and that's just to keep
me on track script certainthings, and that's just to keep
me on track.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I hear that, and I think that
if I look back over my journey,I think that there was a time
where it was like two bulletpoints, and then there was time
where it was like fully scripted.
And now I have like it's funnybecause I have a very detailed
script, but I only like work offof some of it Sorry, not a
script, a bullet point verydetailed list of bullet points.
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But even then, like I'm lookingat it and I'm like can tell in
the moment, like that doesn'tfeel right, like I just skipped
over things.
So I don't know if it's theformat of it.
It's kind of like a safetyblanket.
It's like, well, it's there incase I need it.
But I'm just really going offof that important message that
I'm trying to communicate and itsounds like that's probably
what you do, that's exactly, andI've gone through all of those
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iterations as well.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I've you know, I've tried it all just to find here.
Here's right.
What comes out of all that forme is you're talking is the
biggest thing is find out whatworks for me.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, and so now you have is your current show.
Well, first of all, tell us thename of your current show,
because I know you just launchedit.
As of us recording this, itjust launched recently, so tell
us what the name of your show isand how often you're producing
it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, that's a great question and this is perfectly
timed, I think, and here I amholding myself accountable.
Now Watch this.
So it's called the UnbreakableMission and it's designed to.
Well, my focus is to helpentrepreneurs, coaches, leaders
build resilience and eliminateexcuses so that they can focus
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on, you know, execution.
And right now it's a weeklyshow.
I publish on Tuesdays, but asof this morning, I have recorded
a batch of episodes I'm goingto publish as bonus episodes.
That will be a dailyfive-minute, maybe three-minute
segment.
It's kind of a mindsetkickstart for the day.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I love it, I love it, and so those are your daily
episodes, or five minutes?
How long are your currentepisodes that you're doing?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So right now they're between like 10 and 20 minutes.
I did an interview with a goodfriend of mine who's a Navy SEAL
two weeks ago roughly from atthe time of this recording it
was about two weeks ago and thatone was about 45 minutes.
The interviews will be a littlelonger.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Okay, okay.
And so this is what I reallywant to hone in on, because I
get this question a lot, that Ithink people get so wrapped up
and like I have to just hit thatrecord button and talk for X
amount of minutes, and I thinkthat it's really constricting
and confining of like, okay, Ihave to just talk, it doesn't
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matter if it's good or bad, Ijust have to.
It's almost like a.
I think some people think ofpodcasts as like radio shows.
Right, because some of thesebigger shows are produced in
that manner where it's like it'sgoing to be 30 minutes long,
like from zero seconds to 29, 99, like you know whatever, 59, I
guess there's not 99.
There's not a hundred secondsin a minute.
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Crystal, you should know this.
But you get what I'm saying,like people just like they hit
record and they're looking atthat clock and they're just like
, oh my gosh, like I have tojust talk for 30 minutes and I
think it's so important for usto talk about that you don't
have to have this like reallydead set amount.
So I'm curious for you, like inthe different podcast formats
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that you've recorded, like, howdid you settle on what?
What's going to be like theaverage show length for you.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I don't know that I have settled Crystal, I think
that's great, that's great,that's even better.
What do I have to say today?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Okay, I love it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
And how long is that going to take me?
Now, the three to five minutesegments I've intentionally set
that to be something that'squickly and easily consumable in
conjunction with the regularcontent that comes out weekly
the regular content that comesout weekly.
So, uh, and interviews, I mean,I would tell you my experience
has led me to.
I love to do interviews andhear these stories from people,
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so those tend to go longer and30 minutes for me was a good
number to shoot for.
Often I go over that and I'mokay with it.
It's there's no set time.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, I love this.
I love it and I want to we're.
I feel like I'm experimentingwith your show now, Dan, cause
I'm like I want to know all thethings.
I'm like doing deep, my deepdive research on this, because
I'm sitting here thinking aboutokay, we've talked about, you
know, solo.
We talked about time, we'vetalked about interviews, and I'm
so curious because we actuallyhad to do this, like I had.
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I don't even remember whathappened when we we had to
reschedule our initial call andI was like I'm so sorry, I need
to reschedule, and it's one ofthose things that I don't think
a lot of people that sign up tohave an interview show really
think through or think aboutthat.
When you do interview shows,you are at the mercy of your
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guest's calendar.
If they have an emergency thatpops up, they have to reschedule
.
Maybe when they reschedule it'smonths in advance and sometimes
that can really throw off, kindof, maybe what you had planned,
or now it's like, oh my gosh,now I don't have you know like
all these weird things happen.
So I'm curious on your journey,have you run into some of those
things and do you have anypersonal stories to tell about?
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Maybe interview scheduling gonewrong?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I don't want to say interviews gone wrong, because
I'm sure all of your interviewshave been fantastic, but yeah, I
would like to say that all ofmy interviews have gone
fantastic and I think, generallyspeaking, that's a safe bet.
But you know that I'm not theone that gets to decide that
right, it's the people thatlisten to those interviews and
they get to determine forthemselves.
But have I gone to badexperiences?
(22:12):
No, I don't know that.
I had any interview schedulingstories to share per se.
I will say something you justsaid and I don't want to, you
know, challenge you too much onyour own show.
But what I have learned for meis it's very good to protect our
boundary, and so if there is aconflict in scheduling as far as
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getting a guest, that I andI'll make exceptions.
Let me just put that up front,right, Especially depending on
who the guest is.
And you know, if there's adream guest that I'm having the
opportunity to bring on to theshow, I'm probably going to
allow my boundaries to flex alot, Right, but I like to set
the boundary that, hey, here'sthe times that I'm available and
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I give people options, but Idon't want to record at night, I
don't want to record on theweekend.
I have other commitments andpriorities in my life and if
that's not going to work for myguests, then I have accepted
that that may not be an idealguest at that time.
Again, there's some exceptions,right?
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If you know, I would say youknow, I don't know, I'll just
leave that one that's great.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
No, this is great, and I don't think that we've
really talked too much aboutthis on the show, but everything
you know, everything that we'retalking about here in this
conversation is again from twofriends have known each other
for a long time and have seenall the different ins and outs
of podcasting, but it's reallyalso the the pieces that I think
that we should talk about,because I do hear so many people
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man, I just hear this communityof podcasters being so hard on
themselves, and that's why Ireally wanted you to come on,
dan, because I think that you dosuch a good job.
One, you're a great cheerleader,like cheering other people and
motivating others in ourcommunity, so thank you so much
for that.
This is my opportunity just tohave a brag fest on you.
Thank you so much for doing.
This is my opportunity just tohave a brag fest on you.
(24:06):
Thank you so much for doingthat and championing others'
journeys.
But the other piece is I thinkyou're very practical in how you
don't let some of the nuancesand probably because you're a
coach and you've had all thistraining and like really looking
at problems from a differentperspective, and I think that if
you're to talk to Dan from 2019.
That was just getting startedand, knowing the things that you
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know today, what kind of advicewould you give yourself?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I would say you know, don't get wrapped up in all of
the what could be and all thefancy tools.
That's honestly.
That's the one thing that'skept me excited about.
It is, I have not allowedmyself to get wrapped up in all
that.
Now I love tech and I loveautomations and I love technical
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problem solving.
In fact, at that time, that'swhat my business was based
around, was problem solving techstuff, and it's really easy for
me to go down that rabbit hole.
But it's also really easy toget stopped in your tracks when
you allow yourself to go downthose rabbit holes.
So my advice to me then wouldbe don't get trapped in those
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cycles of here's what everybodyelse is saying you're supposed
to do.
Yeah, I'll give you a greatexample.
Can I do that?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
For sure, we love examples.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, so right now and you may be, I'm sure you're
familiar there is a a bigcontroversy in the podcasting
world about what is a podcast.
In fact, I just listened to ashort mini series on that, which
I'll share in our community, inyour community.
But uh, it's fascinating, Videoor audio, and is it still a
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podcast?
It doesn't matter where you siton that topic.
What's most important is what'scomfortable for you.
Where are you at in thisjourney?
And just because everybody elseis doing it, for me, this is
how I live my life.
If everyone else is doing it,then do I really want to do it?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I think that leaves opportunity.
You know, if everyone else isgoing to video, everyone is
probably a strong word, butthere's a lot of people moving
to video or video first, andthere's nothing wrong with that.
But that leaves plenty ofopportunity for audio only.
Yeah, so I'm staying at themoment with audio only.
Now I'm been reflecting on thatfor a bit and I'm going to be
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producing video, but not inconjunction.
It's not going to be simulcast.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, yeah, okay, this is so good Cause that was
actually going to be my nextquestion.
So you, you beat me to it, youcheated.
Dan.
You looked at my paper and yousaw that I was going to ask you
are you doing video and audio?
But I mean, you just answeredso audio only.
And I love this, and this iswhere I actually was recording
something recently, and it wasjust audio and I was like I miss
(26:54):
these days.
I literally had that feeling,because now, when I'm recording,
it's a totally differentmonster.
I mean, even while we'rerecording here, I'm like Crystal
, look down the barrel of thecamera so people can see your
eyes when you're talking andmake sure you have your light.
Exactly, make sure you haveyour light, make sure you know
no one forgets to like likethere's just like weird cloud
(27:15):
coverage or something going on,like there's all these extra
elements of tech, of environmentthat you have to think about
when you're on video.
And I'll be really honest forthose of you that are watching
the video of this yeah, exactly,dan, just turned off the lights
.
I thought like a blue light wasabout to come on and you're
going to have all these funstickers on your walls or
something.
(27:36):
But I have this calendar rightbehind me and it's so funny, so
I'm going to call this out justbecause this is, you know, for
those of you on audio only,sorry, you're going to have to
go to YouTube to see this, but Ihave.
This is my actual, like workingyearly calendar and I put it up
and almost immediately was likeoh, it's kind of ugly it's.
(27:57):
It's not great, but for me it'sfunctional and it's practical
and I don't want to have to turnthe camera to like I'm
comfortable.
So back to the you do you andwhat's comfortable for you.
Like I'm sorry if my calendarbehind me offends someone and it
isn't the perfect likeinfluencer setup to record a
podcast, but Dan and I are onthe same page, like whenever it
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comes to what a definition of apodcast is or what it should be.
I'm totally on the same page.
As like do what works best foryou, do where you feel the most
comfortable, because then you'regoing to be more likely to show
up and, on that note, like thiswas a perfect segue showing up.
Have you had, in all of youryears of trials and tribulations
(28:44):
with all your differentpodcasts?
Has there been a time whereyou're like oh, I don't know
that I'm cut out for this, ormaybe you felt burned out or you
kind of stepped away for alittle bit and then came back.
Is there anything that you havethere to relate to?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
We could spend the rest of the day talking about
that Crystal Perfect, by the way.
I meant to say thank you forthe compliments earlier and I
failed to do that.
So I'm thanking you and forwhat you've done for podcasters
as a whole and the message youcontinue to share.
So it's been a great journeyand that's probably the biggest
(29:24):
takeaway is it is a journey andyou know when you can embrace it
as that and it doesn't havethese external rewards which I
mentioned earlier that you haveto receive in order to be
comfortable and happy with whatyou're doing, then it can go all
kinds of ways.
But yes, to answer yourquestion, in my business, in my
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podcasting, in all of it, I havequit a number of times and said
that's it.
I don't think I'm cut out forthis and you know, have moved on
.
Like I took two years out oflots of things and I still had
podcasting.
I was doing, but I took a goodbit of time off of that too,
almost two years off, because Iwas doing.
But I took a good bit of timeoff of that too, almost two
years off, because I was justfed up and it felt like it
(30:09):
wasn't for me and then I cameback because everything I do
continues to circle me back tothe two things that I have found
I really enjoy, and it'steaching, coaching, training,
mentoring.
We'll wrap that up in onelittle umbrella.
And then, how can I deliverthat in a way that allows me to
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share what's on my heart andmind without having to go travel
around the world every day anddo that every day?
It's a podcast.
A podcast is an easy way to dothat, and video content whatever
is comfortable for you, andeven I'll tell you there's one.
So video let's talk about videoin particular.
This is not podcast specific,but I did.
(30:54):
I don't remember it was 2018,2019 time frame, and I had
decided I want to do more video,I want to learn to be
comfortable doing video, or morecomfortable anyway, and so I
set out to do a series of livedaily, like daily live streams,
and I started showing up everymorning at the same time and
(31:15):
gosh, I did not know what I wasgoing to talk about at first and
I was that talk about palmsweaty when you first click
record on or go live on.
The time it was Facebook andthat was intimidating, but I
showed up anyway.
And then a week went by and Idon't think anybody had shown up
.
I didn't get any real tractionfrom it, and that's the moment
(31:39):
that I can remember going wow,maybe I can just stop here, this
isn't for me, and I justdecided then to keep going.
Wow, maybe I can just stop here, this isn't for me, and I just
decided then to keep going totry it anyway.
And it's so fascinating whathappened.
I started coming up with thingsto talk about in the moment,
without any real thoughtbeforehand or any planning, any
of those things that you mightthink of and it became much
(32:02):
easier to show up and I can'tsay I'm good at video by any
means, but it certainly felt alot better each day that I
showed up, and when peoplestarted to engage, it made it
even better.
So hopefully that matches.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yes, that's no.
This is so good.
And, again, this is why Iwanted you to come on the show
and share about your journey,because I was listening to a
stat the other day and they weretalking about the amount of
people that you know what,because you and I are in this
podcasting space and everyonelistening is probably, if
they're not already in thisspace, they're curious about
(32:41):
creating content in somecapacity.
And they were saying that youknow, of all the influencers,
all the podcasters, all theYouTubers, it's still only a
really small portion of theworld's population that are
willing to put themselves outthere.
And I'm happy to say that youknow you and I are, and our
listeners, like they, are inthat population that are willing
(33:04):
to take that risk and putthemselves out there.
And I think that once you do itand you realize, oh okay, like I
didn't die, you know I didn'tdie, like going live didn't kill
me, you know going putting,hitting, publish on my podcast,
like I'm still here today, andso I think it's super
encouraging to think about.
You know, the ability that wehave to do what we do in our day
(33:26):
and age and connect with peoplein such a meaningful way.
So, with.
That being said, I want tothink about your podcast and you
know just kind of your journeyas a coach and how you've
connected with people over time.
I want to hear has there beenlike an instance maybe you could
share a story of maybe somegreat feedback that you got on a
(33:48):
specific episode, or maybe anemail that you received from
someone like because I don'tthink that we talk enough about
that.
I think people feel if theyshare that on their own show,
sometimes they're being braggyor whatever, and I'm like no, no
, no, no, no.
I want y'all to champion yourown content, and so I just want
(34:09):
to kind of give you the floor tobrag on yourself a little bit,
dan.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I want to hear some good stories.
Yeah Well, it's so again.
How timely is that question inthat we have this today?
Because actually just lastnight I received probably the
best accolade for my podcastthat I could have received and
it did open my eyes to somethings I want to be intentional
about.
So I don't have it in front ofme, but I got a message last
(34:32):
night from a young lady who weconnected and it was kind of
funny how we connected.
We connected over on LinkedInand I had put something out
there and she immediately sentme a connection request that I
couldn't deny because of what Ihad posted something out there
and she immediately sent me aconnection request that I
couldn't deny because of what Ihad posted.
It was like, hey, I want toconnect or something to that
effect.
But anyway, she admitted inthis message that at first she
(34:54):
was very hesitant to listen orfeel like she would even connect
with me because I use the wordextreme ownership.
But then she said she did goahead and listen to my episode
and was pleasantly surprisedthat I was very approachable in
(35:16):
my delivery of the message andshe even listened to an
interview that I had just talkedabout earlier and said she felt
the same thing resonating inthose episodes, that it wasn't
extreme ownership in the Gary Vstyle of hustle and grind until
you can't take anything elseanymore, and that's not good for
(35:38):
your health, it's not good foryour mind, it's not good for
your body or soul, and I don'twant to communicate that message
, but I wanted you know.
She said exactly what I'm tryingto communicate, which was the
best message I could havereceived, and it was something
to the effect of it's aboutowning who you are and owning
(36:00):
self-love in order to be able todo the things that you most
want to do.
And when you can get thealignment on that, the excuses
go away, they're eliminated, theresilience starts building,
like you hoped it would or likeyou want it to, and the
execution becomes so much easierbecause now you're focused on
(36:20):
what's most important in yourlife, in your business, in your
purpose, and it's not aboutgrinding until you can't move
anymore.
And so that message was justyesterday, as we're recording
this, and that's been the bestexperience.
Now I will say two other things, if it's all right.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
The first thing I would say would be if you've
done it, is it really bragging?
And I know that's probablydebatable, but I've started to
adopt that as a philosophy ofsorts.
Right, if I've done it, thenit's up to me whether I share it
or not.
And if I don't share it, whatam I hiding from?
(37:03):
And it's my perception of whatother people may think, but I
want to be proud of the thingsthat I've done.
Those wins mean a lot to me.
Why wouldn't I want to sharethat with other people?
So that's the first one.
And then I heard somethingyesterday actually, and it was.
And then I heard somethingyesterday actually, and it was
(37:24):
yesterday was a good day.
But yesterday I heard you know,assume that everybody wants
what you have.
And I really liked hearing thatfor so many different reasons,
because that allows me, when I'mquestioning myself, to just
(37:46):
show up and with that assumption, even if it's wrong, if I can
show up with that assumption, itchanges how things are
delivered, how things might beperceived, and we can feel good
about what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, I mean I'm sitting here thinking about
you're living close to the beach, dan Like I mean it's full
circle.
Back to what we said earlier.
I'm like it's and it's so true,like it's it's so such great
wisdom in, uh, in a way thatagain is like it's very
grounding, it's very humble, andI think that you are so
deserving.
I think about you know, theyoung woman that you said that
(38:17):
had sent this message to you.
I feel like she probably almostgave you back the message that
you had put out.
You know, through your content,and I'm sure that's very
validating that maybe I'm on theright track Is that is that
kind of how it felt for you.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Oh yeah, even above and beyond that, it was just
incredible.
That was again.
That's probably the bestmessage I could have ever
received and I've receivedaccolades and you know I've
gotten a few reviews over timeand I do a good job of trying to
share that, you know, publiclyrecognizing and thanking people
(38:53):
for leaving that review, becausethat does mean a lot.
It means that I'm sayingsomething that someone else can
benefit from, right, and itdoesn't matter to me you might
have heard me say this before,crystal, but whether it's one
person or a thousand people, ifI can positively impact the life
of one other person, thenthat's exciting.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome, that's awesome.
Oh my gosh, dan, I feel like wecould talk about all of these
topics and just your show andyour journey like forever.
But this has been so incredible, before we move into our rapid
fire questions that we like toask everybody I'm just so
curious with because I knowrecently, you know in our
community we had gone through anaudit and you know we were kind
(39:35):
of looking at your show and allthe new things that you're
going to do.
How do you feel about thispodcast today versus previous
ones?
Do you feel like it's mostaligned with what you really
want to do?
What specifically about it areyou most excited about?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Well, the answer is yes.
The answer is yes first of alland I'll say this one has been
interesting because it waswalking on the beach and it was
only feels like only a few weeksago.
It's probably been almost twomonths now since this started
developing, but you know, for along time I've been in the
(40:12):
coaching space.
I've been coaching since 2010,.
Technically and gosh, I'm oldbut I have often been challenged
.
Dan, you're a military veteran.
You have a natural ability toconnect with people, which took
me a long time to accept, also,by the way but beyond that, you
(40:33):
have a natural ability, or atleast an in, if you will, with
military veterans.
Why aren't you focusing on them?
And I had every excuse, andlots of them.
The truth is, it just neverfelt right to me, and I kind of
go with a little bit ofknowledge and a little bit of
gut instinct.
If it doesn't feel right, thenI'm not in alignment somewhere,
I'm not doing it, and so I tryto find that balance.
(40:57):
So I was walking on the beachabout two months ago.
I like to go and watch thesunset in the morning.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
That's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Dan Sunrise in the mornings and just think that's a
great place to clear and groundand reset for the day and all
the things.
One of those culmination-stylepodcasts with different
motivational speeches, and Iheard a gentleman named David
(41:27):
Goggins.
He's a Navy SEAL, he's anextreme athlete.
He said something profound thatresonated with me anyway, and
it was this idea that all of thestrength that he experienced in
training with the SEAL teamswas found in that shared
struggle, the common strugglethat bonded these people in
(41:48):
training.
For some reason, that stuck outto me and I went over to my
friend, chat GPT, and I pluggedit in there and said how can I
bring more of that feeling to mycoaching?
Because that's what I'd beensearching for.
I felt like I'd been searchingfor a long time and that was the
connect the dots piece for mewas that military experience,
(42:10):
without specifically looking towork with military veterans.
I won't turn them away, butthat's not my.
I don't just specifically lookfor military veterans to work
with.
They have some of the rightthings, but there's other pieces
that come into who I most wantto work with.
And anyway, long story short,that piece is what resonated
(42:31):
with me, that's what allowed meto connect the dots and start
building this mission.
Disguised as a podcast it'sactually, I said to you before
we recorded this more like acommunity disguised as a podcast
, and there's much more to comein my mind and in what I've
envisioned for this, but themessage is really honing in on
(42:57):
what's most aligned for me andhow I can bring more of those
experiences that I kind of feellike I'd been hiding from the
public.
So that's what this is aboutnow and, combining all those
pieces, it definitely feels morealigned than anything else I've
done and it's much more funbecause of the intentional
experiences that I've chosen,like the solo podcast, and it
(43:22):
didn't fuel specifically like itwas the thing when I was doing
it, but I was intent on doing itand what I learned from it has
been rewarding, because now I'mfocused on how can I make sure
that this is fun, how can I makesure this is something I can
sustain, and if it's not theexternal pieces that I talked
about earlier, it's the missionthat I'm driven by.
(43:46):
That's what's going to keep me.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I love this and I love the community disguised as
a podcast.
Like I love it, I'm not goingto steal it.
Dan, I want to steal it.
I'm not going to steal itbecause I'm just like, oh, it's
so good, like it's one of thosethat it just it hits right and
it just feels really awesome.
So I am so excited about yournext journey and again, we're
gonna have links to Dan's newpodcast.
(44:13):
It's the Unbreakable Missionand I'm super excited to see you
know what the update will be inthe next six to 12 months of
where the show goes.
So that's gonna be so much fun.
But we are going to transitionnow into our rapid fire
questions.
So are you ready for these?
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I don't know, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
We'll see, we'll see, we'll see.
Okay, so the first one is whatpiece of advice would you give
to a brand new podcaster orcontent creator?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Tune out all the noise, just hit record, publish
it and work on steadyimprovement.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Oh, I love it.
Succinct to the point.
So good, so good.
Okay, the next one's a two-partquestion, and it is what is the
dream podcast you would love tobe on and who is your dream
podcast guest you would love tointerview?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
I have heard this question so many times and I
have thought about it and you'renot prepared.
No, that's a really hard onefor me because I mean I have
learned.
I'll share this, crystal, Ihope it's okay.
I have learned that anythingI've ever wanted if I learn to
(45:23):
ask and ask the right peoplethrough relationships or
whatever right, those thingscome to fruition, yeah.
And so it's really hard for meto say, well, that's my dream
podcast, because if it were, I'dprobably already be there.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
That said, I'd love to just sit down and pick the
brains of some people Like Idon't know, I don't, I've never
watched his show, I'm just maybethat's terrible.
Joe Rogan, he's very.
Why does he have such a popularpodcast?
So I'd love to sit down withhim and ask him that question.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah, yeah, I love it , I love it.
Okay, my last question is doyou consider yourself a
perfectionist?
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Ooh, I would say I'm more of a recovering
perfectionist.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
In good company, very much in good company around
here.
Dan knows that too.
I am so grateful to have you onthe show and to share so much
about all the incredible thingsthat you're doing.
Where can people learn moreabout you and hang out with you
and listen to your show?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Well, you can find me on social media.
I think we can manage to getsome links out there, but, dan
Warheide, I won't spell it,we'll make sure it's where it's
supposed to be.
But you can find me on social.
You can find the show atpodcastunbreakablemissioncom and
through that, of course, youcan find out all the other ways
(46:50):
that you can connect with me,and I'd love to have you in
community with me.
I'd love to be connected, soabsolutely feel free to reach
out.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Yeah, and if you're part of our Podcasters Connect
community, make sure you pingDan there If you have questions
or you're interested in coaching, like reach out to him.
He's available on the platformthere too and you can.
I'm saying this hopefullyyou're okay with that, dan, but
I'm like reach out to him there,send him a DM, say where's your
application.
I want to coach with you andreach out to Dan that way.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, absolutely.
I'd love to say, Crystal, I'mso excited for the work that you
do for people.
I love to be in community and Idon't think we mentioned it,
but I remember at one point Iwas like the token male in your
community.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Yes, yes, yes you are .
You are again been around for awhile and I remember at one
point you were just like am Ithe only guy here at all?
Speaker 2 (47:45):
remember at one point you were just like am I the
only guy here at all?
Which is completely fine,because I was learning.
You were teaching great.
You're an outstanding teacherand have been a wonderful
resource over the years, whichis why I am definitely still
here and I'll be submitting thisnew show for review soon.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
So perfect, awesome, awesome.
Well, likewise, dan, like I'mso grateful to have you as part
of our community.
Everyone, please go check outDan's new show and connect with
him, and thank you so much forbeing here with me today, dan.
This was so much fun.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Absolutely my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Well, I hope that that felt like you were just
sitting in on a coffee talk withold friends, because that's
exactly how it felt.
I am so grateful for Dan comingon the show today and sharing
about his journey and sharingthose pieces that I know are
going to help so many of youunderstand a little bit more
about the journey.
When you're stuck in thosedecisions of you know, should I
(48:39):
pivot left or go right, likewhat's the next phase of my
journey gonna look like?
And I just so much appreciateDan sharing his story and his
journey.
But if this is your first timetuning in, make sure you hit
that follow or subscribe buttonwherever you are listening and
watching today and, as always,remember, keep it up.
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We all have to start somewhere.
It always brings me so much joy whenever I can
spotlight members of thiscommunity and today is no
different.
I am so excited to have DanWarheide on the podcast today.
Dan has been someone that hascontributed so positively to our
Podcasters Connect communityand we've been friends a long
(00:24):
time Like I'm just going to goahead and call it out.
We were actually talking aboutit in the interview, like how
long have we known each other?
And it's been a minute.
So we have seen each other'sjourneys go up down all around
and I am so grateful to Dansaying yes to coming on the show
and sharing all about hisjourney of starting multiple
(00:47):
podcasts, pivoting in verydifferent ways and settling on
what he's doing today and thedecisions that he made to get
there, because I know y'all lovea good story and you'll love it
when we break down thosepractical and tactical things
that you can do on your contentjourney.
But a little bit more about Dan.
(01:09):
Dan helps entrepreneurs, coachesand leaders push past fear,
build resilience and execute ata higher level.
He created the UnbreakableMission, his newest podcast.
For those ready to embraceextreme ownership,
challenge-based growth.
For those ready to embraceextreme ownership,
challenge-based growth andrelentless execution no more
(01:29):
excuses, just realaccountability and
high-performance strategies tohelp you step up and own your
mission.
So are you ready?
Let's get right to it.
Welcome to the Profit Podcast,where we teach you how to start,
launch and market your contentwith confidence.
I'm your host, crystal Prophet,and I'm so excited that you're
here.
Thanks for hanging out with metoday, because if you've been
(01:51):
trying to figure out the worldof content creation, this is the
show that will help be yourtime-saving shortcut.
So let's get right to it, shallwe All right, everybody, I'm so
happy for today's guest.
Welcome to the show, dan.
How are you today?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Crystal, thank you so much.
I'm excited and I'm doing great.
I can't complain.
I live at the beach.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Right, I mean like so tell everybody where you're
located.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm in Cape Canaveral , florida, and if that doesn't
sound familiar, it's right nextdoor to the world famous Cocoa
Beach.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Awesome, awesome.
Yeah, I mean a Friday, so we'rerecording this on a Friday too,
so it's a Friday at a greattime of year near the beach.
I'm jealous.
I'm just going to say I'mjealous.
I wish I could go to the beachright after we're done recording
this, because that soundsincredible.
I'm going to take the dogs fora walk to the beach right after
we're done recording this,because that sounds incredible.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I'm gonna take the dogs for a walk to the beach
right after this, so there yougo so now you're just rubbing it
in a bad foot, dan.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Come on, come on.
Well, if you can't tell, danand I, we go way back.
Uh, I was trying to rememberwhen.
When did we first kind of crosspaths?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
yeah, it was like the latter part of 2019 if I was
thinking about that this morning, so yeah, yeah, so we've.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
We've crossed paths in a few, a few different ways
and it's been really cool to seeyour journey unfold as a
podcaster.
And I mean, as we sit heretoday, dan has launched not one
but two, but multiple podcastsand you know figuring out what
it means to be a podcaster andreally hone in on your message
(03:31):
and your strategy, and so that'swhy I wanted Dan to come on
today and share his story.
He's a member of our PodcastersConnect community and I put a
poll out in the group and I waslike, hey, you may want to come
on the podcast and severalpeople responded.
I'm so grateful that Dan is avalued member of our community,
but I want to give you a chanceto introduce yourself.
(03:52):
Can you tell us a little bitabout your podcast journey, how
it started and where it is today?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, absolutely I'd love to share and I appreciate
the opportunity.
So, like you said, 2019, youknow is when we were sort of
first introduced and at themoment I was hearing all the
buzz about podcasting and, ofcourse, all the experts were
saying you should have a podcastand okay, great, let me see
what that's about.
(04:18):
And you know, you don't knowwhat you don't know.
That's probably the first thingI would say, and I still feel I
had this this morning actuallywith with another group, and you
might think, after four shows,that I have some idea, and maybe
I do, but I still feel likethere's so much I don't know and
(04:40):
that's kind of where it allstarted is.
I was like, ok, I don't knowwhat all is required for this
podcasting thing, and so Istarted digging into that, and
that's when I came across yourcontent and what I loved about
that, what connected me to yourcontent in the first place, was
just how simple you made thewhole thing.
I love tech and so even for meit was like, ok, I don't know
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what all goes to what.
It was a bit intimidating and Ididn't want to spend the time
to figure it all out by myself.
You made it super simple tofigure it out and like plug and
play, almost.
So my mission then is differentthan now, but then it was.
I wanted to create a podcast inconjunction with my business.
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That gave me a voice, to buildan audience.
You know all the thingsmarketing speak that we could
talk about, and I don't knowthat that's particularly
important.
I think what's important wasjust how challenging it felt and
, in the end, at the end of theday, how simple it really was to
just hit record.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, thank you so much forsharing that and I mean I'm just
I'm so grateful to be like asmall piece of your journey and
to you know, you have kind ofbeen brought into the fold and
hung out with us and I'm againjust grateful to be part of your
journey.
But I actually want to go backto a question that I don't know
that we really talked aboutbefore, but a lot of questions
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that I get asked today, whichyou know 2019 was a different,
you know, like environment ofhow, like technologies come so
far in just a few years and howI think it's easier than ever to
start a podcast in 2025 than itwas in 2019.
But did you ever, along the way, ask yourself should I start a
blog?
(06:28):
Should I start a podcast?
Should I start a YouTubechannel, because I still get
this question all the time orshould I just have social media?
Should I just have an emaillist?
Is that something that was adecision you made on your
journey?
Or you were like, oh, I think Ishould have a podcast, I'm just
going to start a podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
You know it's so funny because I think we connect
on that particular topic.
I've heard your story before.
I won't steal your thunder, ofcourse, but I had been trying to
figure out blogging.
Like I knew what blogging was,I knew how to do the technical
aspects of blogging.
That was actually pretty simpleto figure out.
What was hard to figure out wasputting my words in writing,
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and so what attracted me topodcasting and I think this is
where it ties back to your storyis the ability to use my voice
instead of my writing, and thatjust that created a whole
different set of problems.
I'll just throw that out therenow we can talk about it.
But you know that it seemedmuch easier than sitting down to
write on a blank page.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And it's.
I love that you share this,because we do have that in
common, 100%.
I was like, oh my gosh, I couldjust talk.
This is I can just hit recordand start talking.
This is incredible, but I was.
I was recently.
I just wrote today's newsletterabout this too.
I mean, this is coming out waylater than when we're recording
today, but I was just talking tosomeone about this.
(07:54):
I would love to hear what thoseother challenges were, because I
hear this all the time when itcomes to someone who is just
recording their very firstpodcast episode.
And they're like Crystal, I'vespoken on stages, I've been on
all these different platformsspeaking in front of people,
like with physical people in theroom, like looking at me,
staring at me.
Yeah, I'm sweating, but I didit and it's amazing.
(08:15):
But why, when I sit in myoffice or my room or in my
closet to record with just amicrophone, why do I feel so
anxious, so awkward, like mypalms are sweating and I'm like?
I'm just like.
Why is it such a thing?
So I would love to know yourtake on some of those challenges
you had when you first startedtrying to record yourself.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, let me caveat that a little bit and say that I
had previously done interviewsin person, and so when I started
, I started a little bitopposite of what many people I
hear start out, and I wentstraight interview based,
because that made it easy for meto talk to people and record it
(08:58):
.
And now what stopped me or whatgave me chills or made my palms
sweaty wasn't anything to dowith that or the process.
It was hearing my own voice ona recording.
I couldn't stand it.
What I've learned, you know,talking to many other people, is
that there's a large percentageof the population that, if they
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record their voice, experiencethat same feeling, and so that
that was probably one ofexperience, that same feeling,
and so that was probably one ofthe biggest challenges up front.
The next one was, of course,solo.
Content was intimidating to me,probably for the same reasons
that writing was intimidating tome.
It was okay, well, what am Igoing to write about?
Okay, now what am I going to?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
talk about.
I'm sitting here thinking aboutwhat it's like to edit your own
podcast and exactly what you'resaying.
It's like you're listening toit, even if it's an interview,
and we are so gracious to ourguests.
We're like oh my gosh, they'recrushing it.
This is incredible.
They sound amazing.
And then, the minute it turnsto our own voice, we're like oh,
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you sound like an idiot.
Why did you say um?
Seven times?
Like, we just turn into our ownworst critic immediately.
So thank you for sharing that,because I think that that is
where a lot of people do,because, like you said, a great
amount of the population, Ibelieve, suffers from that, and
I think it's one of those thingsthat we should talk about more
that you're not alone.
Like, if you don't like yourvoice, it's okay, I didn't like
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my voice, dan didn't like hisvoice.
Like, you're in good companyhere.
Like, just hang out with us andwe'll help you push through
that.
Because how do you feel today?
Like, so now you've hadmultiple podcasts, you've
recorded a lot, do you stilledit your own podcast, or is
that something that yououtsource?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
No, I still edit all of my own and I'll tell you a
secret, crystal you might like,this is I do very little editing
and I say that on purposebecause I think I've seen so
many people in differentcommunities talking about this
topic and how many hours theyinvest in editing and it's like
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I don't want to do that and if Iget to that point I'll
absolutely outsource it.
But I do very little editingand I've learned just to be
comfortable with what I put out.
There is okay for now and Icontinue to work on steady
improvement.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, and we're in the same boat, like we're 100%
in the same boat.
You taught me that, yeah, butthat's the thing it's like.
I don't think you would besitting here today having how
many episodes do you thinkhundreds of episodes under your
belt that you've recorded overthe years.
What would be your guess?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, I'm at least close to 500 overall.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, and I think about if you hadn't just started
or gotten so caught up with itlike you might still be, like so
many of our dear listeners,like I love y'all.
This is my tough love to you isyou're sitting there so hard on
yourself, or you're so anxiousthat you know your voice doesn't
sound great, or I hate thesound of my voice and you
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continue to not publish thethings that you're recording and
it just breaks my heart because, man, if you could just get it
out there, get it out into theworld, dan, and I can promise
you like it gets so much easier,so much easier.
So, with such a milestone, likewhat was the one where you
finally felt like, oh, I'm apodcaster or, oh, I found my
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stride, is there a specificmilestone that you hit that
you're like, okay, I got this,like I can do this?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
You know that is such a great question and I don't
have a specific episode or aspecific time period.
It's been actually fairlyrecently.
I went through this journey ofself-discovery and I was dead
set on doing a bunch of thingsagainst the grain, but it was on
purpose.
So I'll share briefly.
I started a podcast.
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The intent was simply to be asolo podcast because I wanted to
challenge myself in thatcreative space that I had
struggled with, and I also didit intentionally, not to grow it
, intentionally not to do all ofthe things that you might hear
people telling you you have todo or should do with a podcast.
(13:07):
My only focus for the podcastwas to intentionally
continuously be in touch withthe creative process, produce
and publish, and if it benefitedsomebody, that was wonderful.
Well, that led me to where I'mat now and so that, I would say,
was more of a catalyst thananything for actually feeling
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like I'm a podcaster and I'mdoing something with intention
that is, a creative product,whereas before it felt businessy
, it felt like I was doingthings but not for the right
reasons, and so I would say thatit wasn't really aligned with
me from that perspective.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah Well, I love that we're getting into the
nitty gritty of this, becausethat actually makes me think
about there's a lot of peoplelistening that do have a
business component tied to theirpodcast and they constantly ask
me how do you bridge that gapwhere it doesn't feel so salesy
or you're not making a pitch inevery single episode but you're
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making deeper connections withyour audience?
Is there a happy balance thatyou found in your episodes?
Are you still just showing upand you know, recording with
intention and just saying what'son your heart, like how does
your podcast play into yourlarger business model?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So that's a great question.
I'm I'm a coach and I coach byinvitation and referral
Typically.
You know that doesn't mean thatI wouldn't like creating new
connections and I look at mypodcast and everything else that
I do is an opportunity tocreate potential connections and
you know you never anopportunity to create potential
connections and you know younever know where those
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conversations may lead.
So that's my focus for all ofthe things that I'm doing, to
include the podcast.
And the distinction here is,before I was actually doing a
lot of things focused on theexternal potential, like I need
to create sales or want tocreate sales, or I want to
create a client from this, andit just well, like I said, it
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never felt aligned.
And so this, this is more inalignment with what I'm doing
and why I'm doing all of them.
So what I really want to do isspeak from where I'm at and
what's on my heart and mind, toshare and be happy with what I'm
putting out there myself firstand just show up as who I am and
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who it is that well, I want youto see me for and I'm careful
how I say that because I'm notfaking it this is who I am.
This is what you get If youdecide to hire me as your coach.
This is who you get.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, and do you find it's easier to record your
content to coming at it fromthat capacity?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
So much easier just to sit down and hit record and,
and we'll call it get into thatflow Right and, and I I have to
have it.
I used to do a lot of free flowstuff without a script, without
the bullet points.
I had my talking points in myhead, I knew what I wanted to
communicate and I would just hitrecord and talk.
(16:15):
Well, now I have to be reallycareful, so I at least have
bullet points.
Sometimes I script certainthings and that's just to keep
me on track script certainthings, and that's just to keep
me on track.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I hear that, and I think that
if I look back over my journey,I think that there was a time
where it was like two bulletpoints, and then there was time
where it was like fully scripted.
And now I have like it's funnybecause I have a very detailed
script, but I only like work offof some of it Sorry, not a
script, a bullet point verydetailed list of bullet points.
(16:49):
But even then, like I'm lookingat it and I'm like can tell in
the moment, like that doesn'tfeel right, like I just skipped
over things.
So I don't know if it's theformat of it.
It's kind of like a safetyblanket.
It's like, well, it's there incase I need it.
But I'm just really going offof that important message that
I'm trying to communicate and itsounds like that's probably
what you do, that's exactly, andI've gone through all of those
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iterations as well.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I've you know, I've tried it all just to find here.
Here's right.
What comes out of all that forme is you're talking is the
biggest thing is find out whatworks for me.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, and so now you have is your current show.
Well, first of all, tell us thename of your current show,
because I know you just launchedit.
As of us recording this, itjust launched recently, so tell
us what the name of your show isand how often you're producing
it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, that's a great question and this is perfectly
timed, I think, and here I amholding myself accountable.
Now Watch this.
So it's called the UnbreakableMission and it's designed to.
Well, my focus is to helpentrepreneurs, coaches, leaders
build resilience and eliminateexcuses so that they can focus
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on, you know, execution.
And right now it's a weeklyshow.
I publish on Tuesdays, but asof this morning, I have recorded
a batch of episodes I'm goingto publish as bonus episodes.
That will be a dailyfive-minute, maybe three-minute
segment.
It's kind of a mindsetkickstart for the day.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I love it, I love it, and so those are your daily
episodes, or five minutes?
How long are your currentepisodes that you're doing?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So right now they're between like 10 and 20 minutes.
I did an interview with a goodfriend of mine who's a Navy SEAL
two weeks ago roughly from atthe time of this recording it
was about two weeks ago and thatone was about 45 minutes.
The interviews will be a littlelonger.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Okay, okay.
And so this is what I reallywant to hone in on, because I
get this question a lot, that Ithink people get so wrapped up
and like I have to just hit thatrecord button and talk for X
amount of minutes, and I thinkthat it's really constricting
and confining of like, okay, Ihave to just talk, it doesn't
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matter if it's good or bad, Ijust have to.
It's almost like a.
I think some people think ofpodcasts as like radio shows.
Right, because some of thesebigger shows are produced in
that manner where it's like it'sgoing to be 30 minutes long,
like from zero seconds to 29, 99, like you know whatever, 59, I
guess there's not 99.
There's not a hundred secondsin a minute.
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Crystal, you should know this.
But you get what I'm saying,like people just like they hit
record and they're looking atthat clock and they're just like
, oh my gosh, like I have tojust talk for 30 minutes and I
think it's so important for usto talk about that you don't
have to have this like reallydead set amount.
So I'm curious for you, like inthe different podcast formats
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that you've recorded, like, howdid you settle on what?
What's going to be like theaverage show length for you.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I don't know that I have settled Crystal, I think
that's great, that's great,that's even better.
What do I have to say today?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Okay, I love it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
And how long is that going to take me?
Now, the three to five minutesegments I've intentionally set
that to be something that'squickly and easily consumable in
conjunction with the regularcontent that comes out weekly
the regular content that comesout weekly.
So, uh, and interviews, I mean,I would tell you my experience
has led me to.
I love to do interviews andhear these stories from people,
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so those tend to go longer and30 minutes for me was a good
number to shoot for.
Often I go over that and I'mokay with it.
It's there's no set time.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, I love this.
I love it and I want to we're.
I feel like I'm experimentingwith your show now, Dan, cause
I'm like I want to know all thethings.
I'm like doing deep, my deepdive research on this, because
I'm sitting here thinking aboutokay, we've talked about, you
know, solo.
We talked about time, we'vetalked about interviews, and I'm
so curious because we actuallyhad to do this, like I had.
(21:04):
I don't even remember whathappened when we we had to
reschedule our initial call andI was like I'm so sorry, I need
to reschedule, and it's one ofthose things that I don't think
a lot of people that sign up tohave an interview show really
think through or think aboutthat.
When you do interview shows,you are at the mercy of your
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guest's calendar.
If they have an emergency thatpops up, they have to reschedule
.
Maybe when they reschedule it'smonths in advance and sometimes
that can really throw off, kindof, maybe what you had planned,
or now it's like, oh my gosh,now I don't have you know like
all these weird things happen.
So I'm curious on your journey,have you run into some of those
things and do you have anypersonal stories to tell about?
(21:47):
Maybe interview scheduling gonewrong?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I don't want to say interviews gone wrong, because
I'm sure all of your interviewshave been fantastic, but yeah, I
would like to say that all ofmy interviews have gone
fantastic and I think, generallyspeaking, that's a safe bet.
But you know that I'm not theone that gets to decide that
right, it's the people thatlisten to those interviews and
they get to determine forthemselves.
But have I gone to badexperiences?
(22:12):
No, I don't know that.
I had any interview schedulingstories to share per se.
I will say something you justsaid and I don't want to, you
know, challenge you too much onyour own show.
But what I have learned for meis it's very good to protect our
boundary, and so if there is aconflict in scheduling as far as
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getting a guest, that I andI'll make exceptions.
Let me just put that up front,right, Especially depending on
who the guest is.
And you know, if there's adream guest that I'm having the
opportunity to bring on to theshow, I'm probably going to
allow my boundaries to flex alot, Right, but I like to set
the boundary that, hey, here'sthe times that I'm available and
(22:57):
I give people options, but Idon't want to record at night, I
don't want to record on theweekend.
I have other commitments andpriorities in my life and if
that's not going to work for myguests, then I have accepted
that that may not be an idealguest at that time.
Again, there's some exceptions,right?
(23:17):
If you know, I would say youknow, I don't know, I'll just
leave that one that's great.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
No, this is great, and I don't think that we've
really talked too much aboutthis on the show, but everything
you know, everything that we'retalking about here in this
conversation is again from twofriends have known each other
for a long time and have seenall the different ins and outs
of podcasting, but it's reallyalso the the pieces that I think
that we should talk about,because I do hear so many people
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man, I just hear this communityof podcasters being so hard on
themselves, and that's why Ireally wanted you to come on,
dan, because I think that you dosuch a good job.
One, you're a great cheerleader,like cheering other people and
motivating others in ourcommunity, so thank you so much
for that.
This is my opportunity just tohave a brag fest on you.
Thank you so much for doing.
This is my opportunity just tohave a brag fest on you.
(24:06):
Thank you so much for doingthat and championing others'
journeys.
But the other piece is I thinkyou're very practical in how you
don't let some of the nuancesand probably because you're a
coach and you've had all thistraining and like really looking
at problems from a differentperspective, and I think that if
you're to talk to Dan from 2019.
That was just getting startedand, knowing the things that you
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know today, what kind of advicewould you give yourself?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I would say you know, don't get wrapped up in all of
the what could be and all thefancy tools.
That's honestly.
That's the one thing that'skept me excited about.
It is, I have not allowedmyself to get wrapped up in all
that.
Now I love tech and I loveautomations and I love technical
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problem solving.
In fact, at that time, that'swhat my business was based
around, was problem solving techstuff, and it's really easy for
me to go down that rabbit hole.
But it's also really easy toget stopped in your tracks when
you allow yourself to go downthose rabbit holes.
So my advice to me then wouldbe don't get trapped in those
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cycles of here's what everybodyelse is saying you're supposed
to do.
Yeah, I'll give you a greatexample.
Can I do that?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
For sure, we love examples.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, so right now and you may be, I'm sure you're
familiar there is a a bigcontroversy in the podcasting
world about what is a podcast.
In fact, I just listened to ashort mini series on that, which
I'll share in our community, inyour community.
But uh, it's fascinating, Videoor audio, and is it still a
(25:46):
podcast?
It doesn't matter where you siton that topic.
What's most important is what'scomfortable for you.
Where are you at in thisjourney?
And just because everybody elseis doing it, for me, this is
how I live my life.
If everyone else is doing it,then do I really want to do it?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I think that leaves opportunity.
You know, if everyone else isgoing to video, everyone is
probably a strong word, butthere's a lot of people moving
to video or video first, andthere's nothing wrong with that.
But that leaves plenty ofopportunity for audio only.
Yeah, so I'm staying at themoment with audio only.
Now I'm been reflecting on thatfor a bit and I'm going to be
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producing video, but not inconjunction.
It's not going to be simulcast.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, yeah, okay, this is so good Cause that was
actually going to be my nextquestion.
So you, you beat me to it, youcheated.
Dan.
You looked at my paper and yousaw that I was going to ask you
are you doing video and audio?
But I mean, you just answeredso audio only.
And I love this, and this iswhere I actually was recording
something recently, and it wasjust audio and I was like I miss
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these days.
I literally had that feeling,because now, when I'm recording,
it's a totally differentmonster.
I mean, even while we'rerecording here, I'm like Crystal
, look down the barrel of thecamera so people can see your
eyes when you're talking andmake sure you have your light.
Exactly, make sure you haveyour light, make sure you know
no one forgets to like likethere's just like weird cloud
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coverage or something going on,like there's all these extra
elements of tech, of environmentthat you have to think about
when you're on video.
And I'll be really honest forthose of you that are watching
the video of this yeah, exactly,dan, just turned off the lights
.
I thought like a blue light wasabout to come on and you're
going to have all these funstickers on your walls or
something.
(27:36):
But I have this calendar rightbehind me and it's so funny, so
I'm going to call this out justbecause this is, you know, for
those of you on audio only,sorry, you're going to have to
go to YouTube to see this, but Ihave.
This is my actual, like workingyearly calendar and I put it up
and almost immediately was likeoh, it's kind of ugly it's.
(27:57):
It's not great, but for me it'sfunctional and it's practical
and I don't want to have to turnthe camera to like I'm
comfortable.
So back to the you do you andwhat's comfortable for you.
Like I'm sorry if my calendarbehind me offends someone and it
isn't the perfect likeinfluencer setup to record a
podcast, but Dan and I are onthe same page, like whenever it
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comes to what a definition of apodcast is or what it should be.
I'm totally on the same page.
As like do what works best foryou, do where you feel the most
comfortable, because then you'regoing to be more likely to show
up and, on that note, like thiswas a perfect segue showing up.
Have you had, in all of youryears of trials and tribulations
(28:44):
with all your differentpodcasts?
Has there been a time whereyou're like oh, I don't know
that I'm cut out for this, ormaybe you felt burned out or you
kind of stepped away for alittle bit and then came back.
Is there anything that you havethere to relate to?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
We could spend the rest of the day talking about
that Crystal Perfect, by the way.
I meant to say thank you forthe compliments earlier and I
failed to do that.
So I'm thanking you and forwhat you've done for podcasters
as a whole and the message youcontinue to share.
So it's been a great journeyand that's probably the biggest
(29:24):
takeaway is it is a journey andyou know when you can embrace it
as that and it doesn't havethese external rewards which I
mentioned earlier that you haveto receive in order to be
comfortable and happy with whatyou're doing, then it can go all
kinds of ways.
But yes, to answer yourquestion, in my business, in my
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podcasting, in all of it, I havequit a number of times and said
that's it.
I don't think I'm cut out forthis and you know, have moved on
.
Like I took two years out oflots of things and I still had
podcasting.
I was doing, but I took a goodbit of time off of that too,
almost two years off, because Iwas doing.
But I took a good bit of timeoff of that too, almost two
years off, because I was justfed up and it felt like it
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wasn't for me and then I cameback because everything I do
continues to circle me back tothe two things that I have found
I really enjoy, and it'steaching, coaching, training,
mentoring.
We'll wrap that up in onelittle umbrella.
And then, how can I deliverthat in a way that allows me to
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share what's on my heart andmind without having to go travel
around the world every day anddo that every day?
It's a podcast.
A podcast is an easy way to dothat, and video content whatever
is comfortable for you, andeven I'll tell you there's one.
So video let's talk about videoin particular.
This is not podcast specific,but I did.
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I don't remember it was 2018,2019 time frame, and I had
decided I want to do more video,I want to learn to be
comfortable doing video, or morecomfortable anyway, and so I
set out to do a series of livedaily, like daily live streams,
and I started showing up everymorning at the same time and
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gosh, I did not know what I wasgoing to talk about at first and
I was that talk about palmsweaty when you first click
record on or go live on.
The time it was Facebook andthat was intimidating, but I
showed up anyway.
And then a week went by and Idon't think anybody had shown up
.
I didn't get any real tractionfrom it, and that's the moment
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that I can remember going wow,maybe I can just stop here, this
isn't for me, and I justdecided then to keep going.
Wow, maybe I can just stop here, this isn't for me, and I just
decided then to keep going totry it anyway.
And it's so fascinating whathappened.
I started coming up with thingsto talk about in the moment,
without any real thoughtbeforehand or any planning, any
of those things that you mightthink of and it became much
(32:02):
easier to show up and I can'tsay I'm good at video by any
means, but it certainly felt alot better each day that I
showed up, and when peoplestarted to engage, it made it
even better.
So hopefully that matches.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yes, that's no.
This is so good.
And, again, this is why Iwanted you to come on the show
and share about your journey,because I was listening to a
stat the other day and they weretalking about the amount of
people that you know what,because you and I are in this
podcasting space and everyonelistening is probably, if
they're not already in thisspace, they're curious about
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creating content in somecapacity.
And they were saying that youknow, of all the influencers,
all the podcasters, all theYouTubers, it's still only a
really small portion of theworld's population that are
willing to put themselves outthere.
And I'm happy to say that youknow you and I are, and our
listeners, like they, are inthat population that are willing
(33:04):
to take that risk and putthemselves out there.
And I think that once you do itand you realize, oh okay, like I
didn't die, you know I didn'tdie, like going live didn't kill
me, you know going putting,hitting, publish on my podcast,
like I'm still here today, andso I think it's super
encouraging to think about.
You know, the ability that wehave to do what we do in our day
(33:26):
and age and connect with peoplein such a meaningful way.
So, with.
That being said, I want tothink about your podcast and you
know just kind of your journeyas a coach and how you've
connected with people over time.
I want to hear has there beenlike an instance maybe you could
share a story of maybe somegreat feedback that you got on a
(33:48):
specific episode, or maybe anemail that you received from
someone like because I don'tthink that we talk enough about
that.
I think people feel if theyshare that on their own show,
sometimes they're being braggyor whatever, and I'm like no, no
, no, no, no.
I want y'all to champion yourown content, and so I just want
(34:09):
to kind of give you the floor tobrag on yourself a little bit,
dan.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I want to hear some good stories.
Yeah Well, it's so again.
How timely is that question inthat we have this today?
Because actually just lastnight I received probably the
best accolade for my podcastthat I could have received and
it did open my eyes to somethings I want to be intentional
about.
So I don't have it in front ofme, but I got a message last
(34:32):
night from a young lady who weconnected and it was kind of
funny how we connected.
We connected over on LinkedInand I had put something out
there and she immediately sentme a connection request that I
couldn't deny because of what Ihad posted something out there
and she immediately sent me aconnection request that I
couldn't deny because of what Ihad posted.
It was like, hey, I want toconnect or something to that
effect.
But anyway, she admitted inthis message that at first she
(34:54):
was very hesitant to listen orfeel like she would even connect
with me because I use the wordextreme ownership.
But then she said she did goahead and listen to my episode
and was pleasantly surprisedthat I was very approachable in
(35:16):
my delivery of the message andshe even listened to an
interview that I had just talkedabout earlier and said she felt
the same thing resonating inthose episodes, that it wasn't
extreme ownership in the Gary Vstyle of hustle and grind until
you can't take anything elseanymore, and that's not good for
(35:38):
your health, it's not good foryour mind, it's not good for
your body or soul, and I don'twant to communicate that message
, but I wanted you know.
She said exactly what I'm tryingto communicate, which was the
best message I could havereceived, and it was something
to the effect of it's aboutowning who you are and owning
(36:00):
self-love in order to be able todo the things that you most
want to do.
And when you can get thealignment on that, the excuses
go away, they're eliminated, theresilience starts building,
like you hoped it would or likeyou want it to, and the
execution becomes so much easierbecause now you're focused on
(36:20):
what's most important in yourlife, in your business, in your
purpose, and it's not aboutgrinding until you can't move
anymore.
And so that message was justyesterday, as we're recording
this, and that's been the bestexperience.
Now I will say two other things, if it's all right.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
The first thing I would say would be if you've
done it, is it really bragging?
And I know that's probablydebatable, but I've started to
adopt that as a philosophy ofsorts.
Right, if I've done it, thenit's up to me whether I share it
or not.
And if I don't share it, whatam I hiding from?
(37:03):
And it's my perception of whatother people may think, but I
want to be proud of the thingsthat I've done.
Those wins mean a lot to me.
Why wouldn't I want to sharethat with other people?
So that's the first one.
And then I heard somethingyesterday actually, and it was.
And then I heard somethingyesterday actually, and it was
(37:24):
yesterday was a good day.
But yesterday I heard you know,assume that everybody wants
what you have.
And I really liked hearing thatfor so many different reasons,
because that allows me, when I'mquestioning myself, to just
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show up and with that assumption, even if it's wrong, if I can
show up with that assumption, itchanges how things are
delivered, how things might beperceived, and we can feel good
about what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, I mean I'm sitting here thinking about
you're living close to the beach, dan Like I mean it's full
circle.
Back to what we said earlier.
I'm like it's and it's so true,like it's it's so such great
wisdom in, uh, in a way thatagain is like it's very
grounding, it's very humble, andI think that you are so
deserving.
I think about you know, theyoung woman that you said that
(38:17):
had sent this message to you.
I feel like she probably almostgave you back the message that
you had put out.
You know, through your content,and I'm sure that's very
validating that maybe I'm on theright track Is that is that
kind of how it felt for you.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Oh yeah, even above and beyond that, it was just
incredible.
That was again.
That's probably the bestmessage I could have ever
received and I've receivedaccolades and you know I've
gotten a few reviews over timeand I do a good job of trying to
share that, you know, publiclyrecognizing and thanking people
(38:53):
for leaving that review, becausethat does mean a lot.
It means that I'm sayingsomething that someone else can
benefit from, right, and itdoesn't matter to me you might
have heard me say this before,crystal, but whether it's one
person or a thousand people, ifI can positively impact the life
of one other person, thenthat's exciting.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome, that's awesome.
Oh my gosh, dan, I feel like wecould talk about all of these
topics and just your show andyour journey like forever.
But this has been so incredible, before we move into our rapid
fire questions that we like toask everybody I'm just so
curious with because I knowrecently, you know in our
community we had gone through anaudit and you know we were kind
(39:35):
of looking at your show and allthe new things that you're
going to do.
How do you feel about thispodcast today versus previous
ones?
Do you feel like it's mostaligned with what you really
want to do?
What specifically about it areyou most excited about?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Well, the answer is yes.
The answer is yes first of alland I'll say this one has been
interesting because it waswalking on the beach and it was
only feels like only a few weeksago.
It's probably been almost twomonths now since this started
developing, but you know, for along time I've been in the
(40:12):
coaching space.
I've been coaching since 2010,.
Technically and gosh, I'm oldbut I have often been challenged
.
Dan, you're a military veteran.
You have a natural ability toconnect with people, which took
me a long time to accept, also,by the way but beyond that, you
(40:33):
have a natural ability, or atleast an in, if you will, with
military veterans.
Why aren't you focusing on them?
And I had every excuse, andlots of them.
The truth is, it just neverfelt right to me, and I kind of
go with a little bit ofknowledge and a little bit of
gut instinct.
If it doesn't feel right, thenI'm not in alignment somewhere,
I'm not doing it, and so I tryto find that balance.
(40:57):
So I was walking on the beachabout two months ago.
I like to go and watch thesunset in the morning.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
That's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Dan Sunrise in the mornings and just think that's a
great place to clear and groundand reset for the day and all
the things.
One of those culmination-stylepodcasts with different
motivational speeches, and Iheard a gentleman named David
(41:27):
Goggins.
He's a Navy SEAL, he's anextreme athlete.
He said something profound thatresonated with me anyway, and
it was this idea that all of thestrength that he experienced in
training with the SEAL teamswas found in that shared
struggle, the common strugglethat bonded these people in
(41:48):
training.
For some reason, that stuck outto me and I went over to my
friend, chat GPT, and I pluggedit in there and said how can I
bring more of that feeling to mycoaching?
Because that's what I'd beensearching for.
I felt like I'd been searchingfor a long time and that was the
connect the dots piece for mewas that military experience,
(42:10):
without specifically looking towork with military veterans.
I won't turn them away, butthat's not my.
I don't just specifically lookfor military veterans to work
with.
They have some of the rightthings, but there's other pieces
that come into who I most wantto work with.
And anyway, long story short,that piece is what resonated
(42:31):
with me, that's what allowed meto connect the dots and start
building this mission.
Disguised as a podcast it'sactually, I said to you before
we recorded this more like acommunity disguised as a podcast
, and there's much more to comein my mind and in what I've
envisioned for this, but themessage is really honing in on
(42:57):
what's most aligned for me andhow I can bring more of those
experiences that I kind of feellike I'd been hiding from the
public.
So that's what this is aboutnow and, combining all those
pieces, it definitely feels morealigned than anything else I've
done and it's much more funbecause of the intentional
experiences that I've chosen,like the solo podcast, and it
(43:22):
didn't fuel specifically like itwas the thing when I was doing
it, but I was intent on doing itand what I learned from it has
been rewarding, because now I'mfocused on how can I make sure
that this is fun, how can I makesure this is something I can
sustain, and if it's not theexternal pieces that I talked
about earlier, it's the missionthat I'm driven by.
(43:46):
That's what's going to keep me.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I love this and I love the community disguised as
a podcast.
Like I love it, I'm not goingto steal it.
Dan, I want to steal it.
I'm not going to steal itbecause I'm just like, oh, it's
so good, like it's one of thosethat it just it hits right and
it just feels really awesome.
So I am so excited about yournext journey and again, we're
gonna have links to Dan's newpodcast.
(44:13):
It's the Unbreakable Missionand I'm super excited to see you
know what the update will be inthe next six to 12 months of
where the show goes.
So that's gonna be so much fun.
But we are going to transitionnow into our rapid fire
questions.
So are you ready for these?
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I don't know, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
We'll see, we'll see, we'll see.
Okay, so the first one is whatpiece of advice would you give
to a brand new podcaster orcontent creator?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Tune out all the noise, just hit record, publish
it and work on steadyimprovement.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Oh, I love it.
Succinct to the point.
So good, so good.
Okay, the next one's a two-partquestion, and it is what is the
dream podcast you would love tobe on and who is your dream
podcast guest you would love tointerview?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
I have heard this question so many times and I
have thought about it and you'renot prepared.
No, that's a really hard onefor me because I mean I have
learned.
I'll share this, crystal, Ihope it's okay.
I have learned that anythingI've ever wanted if I learn to
(45:23):
ask and ask the right peoplethrough relationships or
whatever right, those thingscome to fruition, yeah.
And so it's really hard for meto say, well, that's my dream
podcast, because if it were, I'dprobably already be there.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
That said, I'd love to just sit down and pick the
brains of some people Like Idon't know, I don't, I've never
watched his show, I'm just maybethat's terrible.
Joe Rogan, he's very.
Why does he have such a popularpodcast?
So I'd love to sit down withhim and ask him that question.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah, yeah, I love it , I love it.
Okay, my last question is doyou consider yourself a
perfectionist?
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Ooh, I would say I'm more of a recovering
perfectionist.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
In good company, very much in good company around
here.
Dan knows that too.
I am so grateful to have you onthe show and to share so much
about all the incredible thingsthat you're doing.
Where can people learn moreabout you and hang out with you
and listen to your show?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Well, you can find me on social media.
I think we can manage to getsome links out there, but, dan
Warheide, I won't spell it,we'll make sure it's where it's
supposed to be.
But you can find me on social.
You can find the show atpodcastunbreakablemissioncom and
through that, of course, youcan find out all the other ways
(46:50):
that you can connect with me,and I'd love to have you in
community with me.
I'd love to be connected, soabsolutely feel free to reach
out.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Yeah, and if you're part of our Podcasters Connect
community, make sure you pingDan there If you have questions
or you're interested in coaching, like reach out to him.
He's available on the platformthere too and you can.
I'm saying this hopefullyyou're okay with that, dan, but
I'm like reach out to him there,send him a DM, say where's your
application.
I want to coach with you andreach out to Dan that way.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, absolutely.
I'd love to say, Crystal, I'mso excited for the work that you
do for people.
I love to be in community and Idon't think we mentioned it,
but I remember at one point Iwas like the token male in your
community.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Yes, yes, yes you are .
You are again been around for awhile and I remember at one
point you were just like am Ithe only guy here at all?
Speaker 2 (47:45):
remember at one point you were just like am I the
only guy here at all?
Which is completely fine,because I was learning.
You were teaching great.
You're an outstanding teacherand have been a wonderful
resource over the years, whichis why I am definitely still
here and I'll be submitting thisnew show for review soon.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
So perfect, awesome, awesome.
Well, likewise, dan, like I'mso grateful to have you as part
of our community.
Everyone, please go check outDan's new show and connect with
him, and thank you so much forbeing here with me today, dan.
This was so much fun.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Absolutely my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Well, I hope that that felt like you were just
sitting in on a coffee talk withold friends, because that's
exactly how it felt.
I am so grateful for Dan comingon the show today and sharing
about his journey and sharingthose pieces that I know are
going to help so many of youunderstand a little bit more
about the journey.
When you're stuck in thosedecisions of you know, should I
(48:39):
pivot left or go right, likewhat's the next phase of my
journey gonna look like?
And I just so much appreciateDan sharing his story and his
journey.
But if this is your first timetuning in, make sure you hit
that follow or subscribe buttonwherever you are listening and
watching today and, as always,remember, keep it up.
(49:01):
We all have to start somewhere.
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