The Profitable Property Management Podcast

The Profitable Property Management Podcast

Welcome closers! The Profitable Property Management Podcast is the show for property management entrepreneurs who don’t settle for average results. Your host Jordan Muela, Co-Founder of LeadSimple, interviews a new world-class property management entrepreneur or industry expert every week and gets them to share actionable insights to help you grow your property management empire. Whether you manage 100 units or 1000, this is the show that's going to help you see the big picture and give you the tools and tactics that you need to achieve your goals. So, if you're tired of hearing the same recycled strategies and content everybody else is talking about, this is going to be a fresh take to help you take your business to the next level.

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August 14, 2025 44 mins


Welcome to this episode of the Profitable Property Management podcast, where host Jordan Muela welcomes Grant Drzyzga, Founder and CEO of Revela, to discuss how his PropTech software is transforming property management through innovation and strategic growth. Grant shares how he bootstrapped and scaled Revela from a college apartment startup to serving over 200,000 units, all while solving real-world pain points. They ...

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In this episode of the Profitable Property Management podcast, host Jordan Muela welcomes Rodd Schifferdecker, seasoned property management leader and President at Specialized 247 Property Management, about his journey scaling a 1,300-door operation and navigating a successful exit. Rodd shares practical insights on growing profitably, knowing when to sell, and how technology, especially AI tools like RentFinder, is tr...

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In this episode of the Profitable Property Management podcast, host Jordan Muela was joined by Justin Clements, co-founder of Pest Share, to discuss how pest control can evolve from a cost burden into a value-adding amenity. Justin shares how PestShare’s resident-driven, data-powered approach is reshaping property operations, reducing maintenance requests, improving tenant satisfaction, and driving NOI. 

The conversatio...

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In this episode of the Profitable Property Management podcast, host Jordan Muela sits down with Graham Robinson, President of Evernest, to explore how the company scaled from managing 3,000 to 14,000 doors across 30 markets, all while maintaining service quality. Graham shares key strategies around building custom tech tools, balancing institutional and individual clients, and leveraging content marketing for organic g...

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What if your property management company wasn’t just paying the bills and sustaining your lifestyle, but actually building your wealth?

Jordan sits down with Shawn Johnson, a former CEO and Property Manager who scaled from 0 to 1,200 units, stopped trading time for money, and built a real estate portfolio that generated lasting wealth & financial freedom.

Now, he’s teaching other property managers how to break free fro...

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Welcome, Closers! In this episode of the Profitable Property Management Podcast, Jordan sits down with Nicholas Cook, President of Sleep Sound Property Management Inc, to discuss property management challenges in a tough regulatory market, rebuilding a cohesive team post-COVID, refining hiring strategies, navigating regulatory hurdles, and scaling into new markets.

Nick’s motto? Success is in the people! So what would Nick...

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Breaking news! 🚨 Jordan sits down with Ray Hespen, CEO & Co-Founder of Property Meld, to discuss their recent acquisition of Mezo, an AI-powered intake and triage software. What does this mean for the industry and Meld customers? How does this impact resident satisfaction, vendor efficiency, and Net Operating Income? Ray shares his vision for the future of maintenance and how property management operations data is dri...

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Welcome, Closers! In this episode, Jordan sits down with Kevin Ortner, CEO of Renters Warehouse, to dive into the incredible journey of scaling to +20,000 doors, launching +30 franchises, and leading transformative mergers and acquisitions. Kevin shares how bold risks with innovative tech, smart pricing strategies, and a focus on the NOI metric drove success. He also discusses challenges in high-density markets, the import...

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Welcome, Closers! Jordan is back with another episode of the Profitable Property Management Podcast. Join him and Marco Nelson, Co-founder and CEO of RentCheck, as they they explore topics, including how resident-led inspections are reshaping the industry, the AI tech that could 10x your ROI, strategies for creating entrepreneurial value, tips for new founders on scaling and venture capital, and Marco’s personal approach t...

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Welcome Closers! Jordan’s back with another episode of the Profitable Property Management Podcast. Join him & Bob Hansen, VP of Sales at VeriFast as they dive into a variety of topics, including **Bob’s transition from operations to sales, dealing with ‘false pains’ in the sales process, and the differences between selling to single-family vs. multi-family properties. Plus, Bob shares his top tips for becoming a top-ti...

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Welcome Closers! Jordan’s back with another episode of the Profitable Property Management Podcast. Join him & Dave Borden, CEO of RentVine, as they discuss the evolution of Rentvine, the process of raising capital, how data sharing is disrupting incumbents, the successful mindset of an entrepreneur, and the state of the property management software ecosystem.

“Its not three years ago, but if you have a great business yo...

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Welcome Closers! Jordan’s back with another episode of the Profitable Property Management Podcast. Join him & Jeremy Pound, CEO of RentScale + publisher of Strategic PM, as they dive into a variety of topics, including: setting & aiming at specific goals to grow your business, leadership & coaching, two exciting events happening in Austin, TX the first week of December - LeadSimple University and RentScale Sale...

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Welcome Closers! In this engaging episode of the Profitable Property Management Podcast. Jordan interviews Tiffany Rosenbaum, Co-Founder of Rosenbaum Realty Group. Dive into Tiffany's inspiring journey through the property management industry, from the inception of her company in the heart of Phoenix Metroplex to managing an impressive portfolio of 500 doors. Tiffany shares her passion for real estate, the critical role of...

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In this episode, Jordan interviews Sarah Hatch, the Founder and Owner of Hatch Property Management and Sales. Sarah shares her journey into property management, from construction & hands-on work to owning & operating her own business. She discusses her experience in commercial property management and her transition to residential property management after having her first child. Sarah also talks...

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Welcome Closers! In the 200th episode, Jordan and special guest Daniel Craig, Chief Strategy Officer at ProfitCoach, dive into the evolution of the property management industry & discuss their journey together from inception of ProfitCoach to today.

They run it back to 2017, sharing the challenges of data standardization in property management and the development of the national benchmarking study, known as the NARPM Ac...

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Welcome Closers! This episode dives into the strategic advantages that deep local ties and expertise can provide in the property management business. Hear how Mike Mefferd, CEO of Bridgestream Property Management, and his team leverage relationships to better serve owners during difficult times like COVID. Explore their purposeful approach focused on enhancing lives and raising industry standards.

00:00:27 - Company Mission...

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In this insightful episode of the Profitable Property Management Podcast, host Jordan Muela sits down with property management entrepreneur Gwenn Aspen, CEO Of Anequim, to discuss her journey from creating a property management company to pioneering remote professional services.

Gwenn shares her experiences, the challenges she faced transitioning from corporate America to entrepreneurship, and her innovative...

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In this insightful episode of the Profitable Property Management Podcast, Jordan interviews Taylor Haas, the current Director of Operations at leading property management company Colorado Realty & Property Management. Taylor shares her journey from starting as a receptionist to climbing the ranks to a top leadership position, overcoming challenges, and driving innovation and growth within the company.

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Join us in this insightful episode of the Profitable Property Management Podcast as host Jordan Muela speaks with Allison DiSarro from Enterprise Bank & Trust. Dive deep into the significance of building connections in banking, how Allison's unique approach to property management banking sets her apart, and the impact of empathy on client relationships in business.

00:00:00 - Introduction to Allison ...

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In this insightful episode, host Jordan Muela talks with Mike Lautensack, the brains behind Del Val Realty and Property Management. Mike shares his journey from the early days of his business to its current success, discussing challenges, strategies, and insights into the property management industry.

[00:00:00] Intro
[00:00:43] Mike's Business Evolution and Growth

[00:02:00] Best and Worst Parts of Proper...

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