Struggling to learn JavaScript in 2025? You're not alone—and it's not your fault. In this episode of The Programming Podcast, Leon Noel and Danny Thompson break down the real strategies for mastering JavaScript (and TypeScript) in today’s dev landscape. From avoiding tutorial hell to embracing project-based learning, we cover everything you need to finally make progress.
Whether you're just starting out or restarting your coding journey, this episode is packed with hard truths, practical tools, and motivational gems to keep you going—even when it gets tough.
We talk about:
Learning strategies that actually work
Why visual wins matter
When to start learning TypeScript
Why floats still get taught?!
How to avoid false expectations (aka thinking you’re job-ready after one birdhouse)
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⏱️ Chapters:
0:00 – Intro: Two kinds of projects
0:50 – Learning how to learn: Dr. Barbara Oakley
4:15 – Active recall & spaced repetition
7:30 – Building through pain (the right kind)
10:00 – Why JavaScript feels hard
12:00 – JavaScript vs HTML/CSS: Mental shift
13:10 – Should you start with TypeScript in 2025?
16:00 – Project-based learning: The underrated MVP
18:30 – Learning through fumbling: Leon’s take on floats
21:00 – The ES6/legacy debate: Var vs Let/Const
25:00 – Principles over implementation in the AI age
28:00 – Starting with early wins and momentum
31:00 – Why visual feedback is addictive for beginners
34:00 – Learning from different teachers
36:00 – Debunking "learning styles"?
40:00 – Why some formats (like video) just don’t work for everyone
42:30 – Must-know JavaScript resources in 2025
47:00 – FreeCodeCamp, HeroDev, The Odin Project, Full Stack Open
50:00 – Freelancing and the 100-Hour Project
52:30 – Aligning effort with expectations
54:00 – Birdhouses and burnout: Understanding trade-offs
57:30 – Build your learning identity
59:00 – Ask Danny & Leon: Should I travel 3 hours for a first-round interview?
1:05:00 – How to ask for help (and not sound rude)
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