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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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I'm Rob.
I'm here, as always, with Court, court.

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We took a not a break, just alittle extended week off.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah we had some paid time off from the studio,
obviously.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, and then of course, when we do that, um, all
of the news happens and all thetrailers happen and just
boatloads of stuff to talk about.
So I mean, we were, we weregoing to talk about agatha
anyway, um, and I got all along.
That's what we're going to talkabout yeah, we're going to talk
about that, um, we're going totalk about that and penguin, um,
so we will talk about thosethings still, just probably a

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little bit more of an abridgedum version towards the end of
their respective news segments,because we are pretty much just
going to talk about a bunch ofnews and a bunch of trailers
this week, um, starting of whicha a bit of a bummer once again.
Yeah, um.
So dame maggie smith passedaway, um a couple days ago at
the age of 89, 89.

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So great, great life, greatcareer, obviously for maggie Um,
most notable you know to topeople my age, as professor
McGonigal in the Harry Pottermovies, which she played
spectacularly, um, one of thebest, one of the best parts of
that of those movies was her Um.
And then I I'm obviously DowntonAbbey, I mean I, I could, we

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could do a whole episode on onthe things that she was in and
in and things that she was greatin.
And, yeah, just another longcareer, long life.
You know it's obviously sadwhen these things happen, but
you know, 89, she was stilldoing her thing.
Even up until now she was stillkind of doing her thing.

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So, yeah, just wanted tocelebrate the life and legacy of
Maggie Smith to start thisepisode.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yep, I mean funny enough.
She's always in my head forSister Act Sure.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
A staple of my household, will always be in my
head for Sister Act the toughexterior, soft interior.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
and no better way to sum up uh, the beauty and the
grace that was maggie smith yeah, that's kind of like you know a
through line of a lot of hermost you know kind of famous
roles too.
Was was that, I mean mcgonagall, was that?
In the harry potter movie?
She, she starts, you know, insorcerer's stone.
You think she's like this, just, you know, just uppity, like
just uptight, strict, and thenyou know she, she's the one that

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ultimately really comes to carefor all those kids right down
to the final movie.
Just, incredible, incrediblecareer Two Academy Awards, five
BAFTA Awards, four Emmys, threeGolden Globes, a Tony Award.
She's one of the few actors toearn the triple crown of acting.
Career started in 1952 on thestage, stage, so she was acting

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for almost 70 years, um, andit's hard to have have a career
more accomplished than that youcan only hope to have a career
that exactly a fraction of thecareer that maggie smith had.
So, um, yeah, I mean, it's just,you know it sucks.
You know, losing these, thesejust figures, these figure heads
, these very, you know, wetalked about james earl jones,

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um, last episode, and now maggiesmith, and it's just like man,
you know it's tough.
It's tough, um, so, yeah, um,transitioning out of that.
Never easy, of course, but wedo have some other things to
talk about, starting with some,starting with some films.
You can't see me, but I'mputting my, putting my hands up.
What time is it on the podcast?
It's courts cinema corner time.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yes, um, it's catching on two weeks in a row,
two weeks in a row, startingwith the sinners trailer.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
so this is the movie that we've kind of talked about
in passing here and there.
Um, as people have been addedto the cast, obviously, the
synopsis uh, this is the ryancoogler movie starring, of
course, michael b B Jordan, hisLeo DiCaprio, michael B Jordan's
in this.
Haley Steinfeld is also in this.
This is Ryan Coogler's periodpiece vampire monster movie and

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it looks properly spooky andunsettling.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I mean you want to talk personnel wise?
I mean Ryan's back and I wasjust talking to somebody about
this.
This is his fifth feature.
I know we talk about this allthe time with him the trust from
a studio, especially a studiolike warner brothers, to say,
ryan, here's the keys, here'sthis amount of money, go make
something original and new, andit's it felt so vintage in that
way.
To me it felt so.

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It's funny that we're sayingthat in a way that like a film
that's an original idea, becausethe immediate reaction I got
from this trailer is this thishas cult classic potential like
this has potential to be one ofthose movies that people revisit
, like when this movie comes outI believe this is a march 7th
release when this movie comesout, people are going to be
talking about this for a while.
It's going to be one of thosethings in the head.
I mean, trailer wise, this isone of the stronger trailers

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I've seen in a while as well,too.
This is such a strong.
I mean we're going to talkabout several strong trailers,
but for a an original idea filmthat's coming out as well too, I
mean I couldn't be happier withthe result.
I mean michael b jordan isheavily carrying that main
character energy as well too.
This cast is absolutely stackedas to.
Stacked as well.
I mean michael b jordan, yougot delroy lindo, you have

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hailey steinfeld, amongst others.
I mean mean this is really wellconstructed, but narratively I
don't know anything and it'strusting us to be like that's
okay, you don't need to knoweverything now.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
I think Coogler's getting that kind of gravitas at
this point where he's becomingone of those guys that he makes
a movie and you're like I gotta,I gotta be there.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I will say the, the way that directors have been
evolving over the last couple ofyears, and it's, it's not
evolving, it's just the it isevolving.
It's just like it's just thenew age directors, it's.
I was just having thisconversation with somebody as
well the other day about, likeyou know when, and you know I
love Martin Scorsese, I loveTarantino.

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Spielberg and hitchcock arereally the two, and kubrick were
the ones that were like my nameis on this film.
People will go watch this filmand then in the in, like the
blockbuster era, once youstarted to hit the late 70s, the
80s, spielberg's name was likespielberg's names on this thing.
And then, you know, you get tolike zemeckis throws his name on
the thing, like it's thefilmmaker's name.
That's really getting thismovie sold.

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I feel like we're getting backto that era a little bit where
you know you have yourdenisville news.
I mean jordan peele.
We talked about a lot how hereally is our modern day
hitchcock.
He really is the one where ifhe's dropping something,
everybody stops to go see it.
Denise, denise becoming thatway as well too.
Or denis drops something, yougo to see that thing so and

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we're going to talk aboutanother director who, after a
couple Oscar wins in 2019, hasthat same level.
So I'm just over the moon aboutthis trailer.
I think this film is going tobe incredible horror for Brian.
Coogler I think is awesome too.
I just like that he put his pento paper and kind of let it
sing for himself.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I think his if this movie is as good as I believe it
will be he's putting togethernot just an incredible resume,
but an incredibly versatileresume, and what did he just
turn?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
40?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Not even, yeah, I don't even think he's.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Him and Damien Chazelle are around the same age
and I mean same thing forDamien Chazelle.
Damien has four features underhis belt.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I mean ryan has five yeah, you just look at these
five movies and and besides theobviously black panther and
black panther, wakanda, forever,these, you know, I guess we
consider them four franchises orfour, four movies, like we'll
consider black panther kind ofone, for, like you know, the
greater point I'm going to makehere.
So, like fruitvale station, youhave your contemporary you know
right drama piece, you havecreed, which is this kind of

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elevated boxing sports movieright um, you have black panther
, obviously, which is in thesuperhero genre, and now you
have sinners, which is thishorror movie like.
The versatility is outrageousyeah, and it's.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
It's why narrative is so important.
It's always also why personnelis so important.
I mean he bought autumn, uh,dar Archipel who shot Loki.
She shot Black Panther 2.
And I mean we talked about, youknow, in terms of the MCU,
Black Panther 2 is in like thetop three most gorgeous movies
that that studio has ever done.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yep, I feel like a lot of people locked that movie
away too, just because of thesubject matter.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, yep, I was thinking about that.
That movie is still incredible.
That's still an incrediblepiece.
It is really, and I told youthe other day I watched and I
was like I, I can't, I can't doit.
I truly can't just go back andwatch that movie and enjoy it
because it's too much pain.
But that movie is so well made,yeah, um, and it's so tight.
So I'm so glad that she's backas well too.
Um, because I think this is thesecond piece they've worked on

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as well together too.
So obviously that's acinematographer name that people
need to kind of throw in theirback pocket as well too, because
the way she shoots, I thinkthey were using the same they
were.
They were using the samecameras that Oppenheimer is
using.
I know this is shot all on allon film as well too, so I mean
just that opening shot in thetrailer.
You, you know you're in goodhands.
You know there's trust behindthis as well, so I am over the

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moon.
I think this is going to be anincredible piece and, like I
said, this has true cult classicpotential.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Um, you did mention anotherdirector that is having another
movie come out, and that wouldbe Bong Joon-ho.
Yes, Um, so the director ofparasite is coming out with a
another movie book, the book,the 2022 novel, mickey 7, it is
called.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
This is called mickey 17, um, and it looks properly
wacky yeah, and what I love, too, is expectation, expectation
subversion as well, too.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I think that's something to to remember because
, yeah, I mean, it's a littleweird for a mickey mouse movie.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
No, no, and you know I thought where's mickey rourke
in this mickey 17 movie?
where's mickey mantle, right,mickey mantle.
Space yeah, I thought this wasa baseball, a space baseball
movie with Mickey Mouse, alljokes aside, I mean, obviously
and this is what I love aboutthe ideology of what tone is
Tone so often gets misconstruedfor dark light.

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It's not necessarily the thing,and we always talk about tone
can be a lot of different things.
Just don't forget what yourtone is throughout.
And this trailer, I think, is alesson in tone and, again to my
point, a lesson in subversion.
I mean, you're going in andyou're hearing all the rubblings
.
Bong Joon-ho is making his bigreturn back to cinema.
Everybody apparently lovesRobert Pattinson now, even

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though they hated him a coupleyears ago.
And you put the two of themtogether and you're thinking,
all right, this is going to bethis dark and gritty, just like
Parasite, and you're like nope,this actually looks like a
boatload of dark fun.
It looks.
How does this look?
How do I explain?
You made a good point.
This to me feels like ifSnowpiercer and an episode of
Fallout had a baby, yeah, sir,and an episode of fallout had a

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baby yeah, and bong joon-ho, thegreatness of bong joon-ho,
directed it with the you know,the absolute versatility of of
robert pattinson in front ofthere yeah, I'm super keen to
see, to see what this movie'sabout.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I mean, and kind of like to the point you were
making earlier about, you know,directors getting kind of more
notoriety, I think it's awesome,specifically for him, um, you
know, coming off of parasite.
And this is one of thoseinstances, like with the oscars,
where, like winning that oscarlike got people to recognize him
and like kind of pay attentionto like where his career

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trajectory is going.
So, like now, like you can puthis name on the marquee being,
like you know, directed by bongjoon-ho, and people are
intrigued, right, like becauseof parasite.
Like I said, it's like it's,it's bong joon-.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
It's like Greta Gerwig directs a movie.
Now.
Jordan Peele, obviously RyanCoogler.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Zack Snyder what?

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Maybe for better or for worse.
You are right.
You are actually right aboutthat too, but I just think
that's the coolest thing in theworld where you know these
people that are spending so andnot that everybody doesn't work
extremely hard on a movie, butthe person behind the camera
with the vision.
It's just great that they'rekind of getting the notoriety to
be like studios are comfortableselling the movie on their

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behalf.
I think that's something that'sreally awesome.
That's got to make you feelgreat as well, too.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Then you had a third movie youwanted to mention.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yes, I did have a third movie I wanted to mention
and I am very upset that youjust kind of kicked it to the
side as well too so A Real Pain,starring Jesse Eisenberg and
Kieran Culkin.
This just looks like your, youknow, this just looks like your
award season going to hit youright in the heart.
Obviously, narratively, this isinfinitely different than

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Holdovers, but I kind of getthat feel that this is where
it's going to kind of strike,like that, you know that dramedy
that has a lot of heartencapsulated into it as well too
.
I just I love again, I lovewhen, like these, you know
somewhat comedic or you knowmore comedic leading actors take
this swing and like they getinto this genre, like I don't
know why 20th Century Woman justpopped into my head.

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They get into this genre.
I don't know why 20th CenturyWoman just popped into my head.
But movies like that, whereagain the holdovers, like I was
saying, movies like that whereyou kind of feel like you know
what you're going to get andthen it gives you that absolute
gut punch, holdovers a couple oftimes, to the point.
But no, I'm just super keen tocheck this one out, I hope, from
what I've been hearing, hearingthe two of them have been

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pulling a little bit of oscarnam talk out of that as well too
.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
So yeah, and I mean in you know, in eisenberg's case
he's yeah, he's been kind ofnot gone, but he's been kind of
like under the radar yeah, yeah,I mean since really since
zombie land, to be honest yeah,I mean, he got he, he.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
I can't remember if he directed the art of
self-defense that he was in aswell too, but I feel like he's
somebody that loves the game ofwhich cinema is like, how
filmmaking is like a sport, ifyou want to use that terminology
.
Sure Him.

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Dano does the same thing, like,but I can't wait to check this
one out.
I feel like this is going to bemy tearjerker of the year.
This is going to be the onethat's like Even more than the
Andrew Garfield Florence Pughmovie.
No, that one might.
They're a little different.
I feel like this one's going tohave a little bit more
relatability.
I can't wait.
I can't wait.

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I can't wait.
I saw this trailer a few like,I think, two weeks ago and I was
like, oh, or like last week,and I was like this is gonna
hurt.
This is gonna properly like,make me laugh, love and hurt.
Yeah, um, I also want to throwSean Baker's Anora in there,
because that movie is gettingthe most critical of acclaim
that you can get, and I meanOscar nominee Sean Baker, whose
first feature film was shot inan iPhone.
Sean Sean Baker is, you know, isgetting just absolute, just

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acclaim for what he's doing.
I can't wait for that movie.
It's I think it's sitting at a98%.
I think it's one of the highestof the year so far too.
Um, I forget what her name is.
That's the main character inthe movie.
Um, she was in the screen moviemovies lately as well too, but
apparently what?
What I've been hearing is she'sborderline a lock for the best
actress at this point too, whichI think is awesome.
So I just love Sean Baker'sstyle.

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I mean, if you've seen FloridaProject, you know it's that same
concept.
It's like just this real worldfeeling films that he puts
together that just have so muchstyle but so much heart behind
them as well too.
So, sean Baker, I hope he turns.
I mean, in my opinion, he's inmy heart, he's a household name,
but I hope he gets there, andthis might be the film to help
him get there as well, too Cool.

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And then my last thing is we'redipping into the TV cinema
corner, but, uh, bill Hader'sback.
Yes, you want to talk aboutsomebody that you know is loves
the game of which we callfilmmaking and film.
I mean, just listen to any ofhis criterion collection
interviews they're always uh,they're always amazing, but I

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mean I love bill hater, I meanbarry.
That show means so, so, so muchto me as well, too.
So it's one of those thingsit's like from a tv lens and
it's funny.
I I was just having thisconversation about um because
I'm, because I was talking aboutTrue Detective and I said, if
we really want to get into it,mcconaughey was one of the first
ones when streaming showsstarted becoming big.

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Obviously, it was coming out onHBO itself, but once you hit
into the 2016, 2017s, and actorswere these movie actors were
going into television and how.
He was one of the.
The.
Him and Woody Harrelson weretwo of the trailblazers to get
there as well too.
So I just think that's awesomeand whatever his vision is for

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this new project, I'm all in.
I mean, he is somebody that'sgoing to be, in my opinion, one
of the staples and important tothe idea of what streaming shows
can and should be.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, I'm always super keen to see staples and
important to the idea of whatstreaming shows can and should
be.
Yeah, yeah, I'm always, I'malways super keen to see
anything that Bill Hader does.
Yes, his mind is justphenomenal.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
It is, it's he is one of the best.
It's almost like the idea oflike psychological warfare of
the mind, but also in a waywhere, like it's just a regular
guy that's just going throughsome stuff.
Yeah, and that's what sellsBarry so well.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yes, 100%.
Got some video game news?
Yeah, we do.
So Sony had a state of play.
People were kind of, you know,sony's PlayStation has taken a
bit of a beating over the lastcouple of weeks.
I have a point for that too.
You know, they have been kindof spinning their wheels a

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little bit.
They've been I mean, quoteunquote the console wars.
They've been winning it prettyhandily.
But I just feel, I do feel likeover the last couple years
things have gotten a littlewheel spinny.
You know why.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
I was thinking about this, I was thinking heavily
about this, because I thought tomyself I said, yeah, people
were, people were really notliking the state of play.
And I said because, when you,when you get to that point where
spider-man last of us, ghost oftsushima, um, what else do they
have?
um final fantasy 7 final fantasy7 um, not far cry um.
Horizon the horizon series.
Like we're not even naming all.

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Final Fantasy VII, finalFantasy VII, not Far Cry.
Horizon, the Horizon series.
We're not even naming all ofthem.
I feel like I'm missing one Godof War.
God of War, yeah, yeah, you'retalking these massive video game
IPs that run and we talkedabout on here when we talked
about Fallout and the Last of Uson here and how it started to
shift.
When we were kids it was likeshooter, shooter.

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But now it's like narrative.
Narrative, like we need there,like narrative, is the thing
that's going to sell the gamesat this point.
So, when you were so strong forso long, and there's that
little bit of the low, anythingbesides.
Here's the last of us threetrailer.
Here's the spider-man threetrailer.
Here's the here's.
I mean, we did get one at theend.
Here's the god of war, whateverthe new people are gonna be
like.
Well, this wasn't for nothingit was.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
I mean, it was kind of in a way it was was kind of
brilliant the way that they,they, they kind of capstone this
thing, so, like they did.
Basically they did the big ps5pro sizzle reel.
Which gorgeous it's gorgeous,dude.
I I so badly want to be likedon't support, you know,
consumerism, that type of shit.
But there is probably going tocome a time where I'm going to

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get one.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
That console is that 30th anniversary.
I just need the controller.
That controller is gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
That thing does look like it's going to make things
run a lot smoother.
I mean for the longest time.
When the PS5 came out, peoplewere like you know, I think it's
only a handful of games.
I think really Spider-Man, forthe most part, and Ghost of
Tsushima, when they remasteredit are the only games right now
that can support a 4K 60 framesthing, and now the PS5 Pro will
be able to do that.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
And also I think we talked about this off the pod,
but we were talking.
I guarantee you some studiosare waiting, they're waiting it
out until it's like we canactually get the absolute
maximum of what we're going togive the system before it's like
, before it's too much to handle.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, I mean I've seen, you know they showed.
They showed a bunch of gamesoff that are essentially going
to be like not remastered, butlike redesigned and patched for
the PS5 Pro.
And I mean I saw Final Fantasy7 Rebirth and it looks People
were like it looks the same.
It doesn't look the same.
If you put the PS5, current PS5version of Rebirth, which
already looks incredible, andput it next to what they're

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showing off in the PS5 Pro, itlooks amazing.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
I think Druckmann's waiting for it as well too.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
So they did the PS5 Pro thing.
Then they did the Horizon ZeroDawn PS5 remaster, which people
were groaning over.
But that game is gorgeous, man.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
It was gorgeous to begin with.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
It was one of the best-looking PS4 games into PS5
games, I mean when they patchedit originally for PS5, and then
I mean Horizon Forbidden West.
I still think is thebest-looking PlayStation 5 game
that's come out to this point.
It's probably that and Ghost ofTsushima are the two.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Don't sleep on the Last of Us, part 2.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
No, yeah, people were groaning about the Horizon
remaster, but it is going to be$9.99.
If you have Horizon Zero Dawnalready, it will be $9.99.
You can still get it for prettycheap on the PlayStation Store
now.
If you want, get it now so youcan get the upgraded version.
I mean, I'm keen to go backinto horizon when that comes out
, and then you think that's howthe state of play is going to

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end.
And then they just drop a, ablack and white.
Black and white japaneselandscape.
Um, like a shock drop trailerat the end, like but here's one
more thing.
Um, black and white japaneselandscape, voiceover, and then
the screen goes black.
The sucker punch logo comes up,crowd goes wild.

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Um, it is the ghost ghostsequel, but, um, a lot of
differences, a lot of thingschanging, and I really enjoy the
direction that this is going.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I mean too I'm, I'm into it and the big thing that
they said.
So this game is called theGhost of Yotai.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
No Jin Sakai in this game.
This is a completely new story.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
It takes place 200 years after Ghost of Tsushima.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
They should do that every time.
Every time they make another200 years Until they get to 2003
.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
And then you show off the new, uh, new protagonist,
um, new mechanics.
I think it's.
I think it's great, um, for amultitude of reasons.
First and foremost, the firstreason I think it's great is it
addresses the problem A lot ofpeople have with Spider-Man two,
um, in which it's it's just NewYork again, um, it addresses

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that cause.
It's going to take place on awhole new area, um, I think
that's with a big mountain, abig, big visual mountain, um,
and I think that's a brilliantmove because, like I said, it
addresses it.
It allows them to toconceivably and believably do
more with the engine that theyalready have, because,
hypothetically, if they werejust going to do Ghost of

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Tsushima 2 and it was going tocontinue Jin's story, I mean,
where do you go?
You're kind of limited by themechanics of the time period in
which Jin exists.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
It's not only the mechanics and I mean, this is
the big thing that dictates.
It should dictate everything.
In my opinion, it's the story.
Where do you go?
Like, what a way to end Jin'sstory, something that people you
know, and you had two optionsto end Jin's story on top, yeah,
so how, how much further canyou take it to to give somebody
and give a new protagonist aname and a life?
Because Jin.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
A lot of people are, are being like, are mad because
I mean, I know why people aremad there's that, there's that
part of it, but there's also thepart of it of saying, like
Jin's story wasn't finished,like what about him going
toe-to-toe with the shogun?
But like that wasn't the point,no of ghost, of tsushima, no,
it was.
It was the inner struggle ofjin honor versus doing what the
right, doing what's necessary tosave your people.

(23:13):
Right, and he came to that.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
He came to that, like that story reached its
conclusion right, and then, whata perfect antagonist to throw
his uncle like.
That ended in the most poeticway.
Whichever, whichever way, youchose it in the most poetic way
possible.
So the prospect of you retoolthe engine, you, you maximize it
as best you can for the ps5 proand you give us a new

(23:36):
protagonist to learn, learn fromand learn with, I think that's
a.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I think that's a stellar idea and the idea of
keeping the ghost name makingthe ghost name as the thing that
keeps the series.
It props up Jin even more?
Yeah, because like, do youreally think they're going to go
through this game and not haveallusions to him Give?

Speaker 1 (23:54):
your point.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Give your point.
Well, he's going to be.
He could conceivably be theguiding wind.
Yeah, like Jin could be theguiding wind.
Or, you know, you unlock ghoststance by fighting jinn, some
type of mythical thing where heshows up.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
I said it when we talked about ghost of tsushima.
I wonder if this game's gonnadive into the mythical aspect of
what the online gameplay waswas kind of alluding to as well
yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
So this idea that jinn is just gonna be
non-existent I think is farcical, like I.
There's the.
The reason the game is calledthe ghost of yotei is because
and the reason it takes place200 years after, in my opinion,
is that it's jinn has becomethis batman-esque figure in
japan where, like his, thelegend of the ghost is.
He became the legend.

(24:38):
He becomes the legends that youlearn about in ghost of
tsushima.
He he's that now, which I thinkis super freaking cool and I
think that's such a great way topay homage to the character.
And it does leave the door open, like if you wanted to do Ghost
of Yotei now, you could doGhost of Tsushima 2 after this
yeah, you could If you wanted to, you really could do that.

(24:59):
So I think it's super cool.
Obviously, the visuals aresecond to none.
I mean, I think like super cool.
Um, obviously, the visuals areare second to none.
I mean, I think, like I said,along with gorilla games who
made horizon, I think suckerpunch has maximized the
potential of the play station 5better than maybe any studio,
and that's honestly because theonly reason I would not say
naughty dog is because theyhaven't technically developed

(25:20):
anything for the ps5 yet.
So, um, I mean, we'll see whathappens with them down the road.
Um, I think square enix hasdone a masterful job, um, with
their stuff but marvel's theavengers nope um she has a gun
in this game she has a gun.
I'm all for that she has dual,dual blades.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yes, how are you not in like yeah, what more do you
want, what more do you?

Speaker 2 (25:42):
want.
That's the coolest.
There could be a wolf companionbased off this trailer.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
It looks like yeah, I upgraded my fox to a wolf Like
what are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, and, like I said, the visuals look insane,
so I'm all for that.
And then other video game newsEA has confirmed that the Jedi
Survivor sequel third game willbe the final game in the Jedi
line, so it will probably be thelast we see of Cal Kessis in
video game form.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
yes, because we got another point in a second yeah,
I feel like this is gearing himup for some type of live action
thing yeah, I mean, wasn't itconfirmed by Variety I can't
remember who confirmed it, itmight have been the Hollywood
Reporter Variety that CameronMonaghan is going to come to
live action at some point.
It's something that he talkedabout, that he was yeah, he

(26:28):
talked about you to youpersonally.
Yeah, he said it to mepersonally yeah, he did, he said
when you met cameron monaghan acouple weeks ago.
He said hey, rob, I would loveto be a live action cal kestis,
I'm just waiting for the phonecall.
And then rob dialed the phoneto his other friend, bryce
dallas howard, and he also metand said Bryce boy, do I have
the movie for you?
Redheads unite, Redheads unite,Like let's get this movie
rolling.

(26:48):
Um, I think that makes totalsense Would that not be the
coolest thing.
A Bryce house.
Bryce Dallas Howard directedCal Kestis show.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I would watch.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
I would watch that.
Throw all the characters inthere Several times over.
Get all the people Wait.
Oh, there's one person we can'thave in there, master Cordova.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Your favorite character he does nothing.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
My friend, my friend, you're not my friend.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
My friend Find the thing, find the thing no.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Man when I pulled up in the second game and he was
alive, I've never wanted to hitsomebody so bad.
What did you make me do allthat crap?
For what do you mean?
You're alive.
That was wild, but no, I think atrilogy for these jedi games
makes total sense I mean, it'sthe crowning thing that star
wars games has right now, andyou know I love when games get
innovative and that opening thatnot, it's not only opening that

(27:35):
world up, it's the perspectiveview that the narrative took.
It took the god of war approachin the narrative as well too,
just kind of the you're, you'redoing your, your one-shot take
for the entire game essentiallytoo, which is really awesome.
There are some great set pieces, but I mean, character-wise,
cal Kestis is one of my favoritevideo game characters now he's
he's and one of my favorite StarWars characters.

(27:55):
He's, truthfully, one of themost complex Star Wars
characters that we've had in awhile too.
And I mean, that second gamedoes really what you know second
parts of trilogies does well,and it beats the crap out of Cal
a bit, it'd be.
It really knocks them down abit and kind of deconstructs
them even further than what thefirst game did.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah and uh.
You know we talked.
We talked about Jedi survivoron here and I loved the approach
they took, even with thebeginning of the game where,
like, you have all the stuff andnow here's more stuff.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
You know one thing that game could probably add if
because that second game addedlike the most.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
So much, it added so much.
You know what.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
the third game should add right, flying.
He flies now.
He flies now.
A Jedi with a jetpack.
No, not like that.
I mean like he has like you, dolike you, that'd be cool.
Space missions.
I mean Star Wars Outlaws hasthat.
Yeah, get him an X-Wing orsomething.
Yeah, one X-Wing, we're saved.
It's Cal Kestis Fuck Gina.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Carano, gina Carano, and then kind of transitioning
from video games to video gameadjacent, we got a Last of Us
trailer on Last of Us Day.
Oh God, this felt like a like,a like y'all must have forgot
trailer to me because it feelslike people were like people do
this with the last of us.
You can't see what I'm doing.

(29:12):
I'm doing like a, I'm doing awave motion with my arms right
now.
That's how he's actually breakdancing.
That's that's how people arewith the last of us.
It's it's like this thing is thebest thing I've ever seen.
And then it's like actuallyit's bad, actually we hate this.
And then it's like wait, no,this is actually really really
good.
And then it's like we actuallyhate this and the show is
suffering from the same thing.
Like I feel like I feel likethe show came out and people
were like this is like the bestthing I've ever seen.

(29:33):
And then, like some time passedand we're like, actually we're
sick of the last of us.
And then the first trailer forthe second season came out and
we are like I actually know thisis actually really good
television that we're probablyabout to get.
It's not going to get any lesscrazy over time.

(29:53):
People are going to be madabout stuff, but I thought this
trailer looked spectacular.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Unfortunately, this is one of the best trailers that
I've seen.
Unfortunately, I mean this isone of the best trailers that
I've seen.
Unfortunately, I mean this.
I mean this is do I bold stateclaim this is my favorite?
Like franchise narrative.
Like I love the Last of Us morethan conceivably possible.
Like I love this story sofreaking much.

(30:20):
And I mean, again, you haveDruckmann's original story and
you get the adaptation, but thefact that craig mazen is just
kind of adding the last layer oflike finality to it is what
makes the show truthfullyincredible.
I mean, the show operates inkind of plausible realism, but
also the fantasy is the ideologythat hope exists in a universe

(30:43):
like this, and it keeps getting.
You know, craig Mason alwaysmakes the point of like theme
isn't a thing, theme is aquestion.
So, like you know it's it'spart of one of the score pieces
that, uh, gustavo Santolalo putin for the last of us.
Part two score like allowed tobe happier.
Like are you allowed to behappy?
And I like are you allowed tobe happy?
And I mean the way theystructure this is by and with a
brand new character is Joel'stherapist is essentially like

(31:06):
what did you do?
Like you're not telling mesomething, like something.
You're not telling me something.
And what's the line she gives?
She says the first like pieceto healing is by saying it out
loud, like and it's from thelast trailer, or the last piece
of the trailer from the HBOseason reel where he's like I
saved her.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Jesus Christ, joel.
But they frame it.
I like the way they framed itin this in the sense of like,
not a question of like, it's notwhat did you do?
In the sense of like Tommyasking him in the game of like,
what did you do?
Like, oh god, like, how bad isit?
Like the way the therapistframes it is like tell me what
happened.
Like, just tell me what you did.
And you know, I kind of likethe idea that they switched it

(31:46):
from him having the conversationwith tommy to having this
conversation with this, withthis therapist.
Like, imagine, just, first ofall, just imagine a therapist in
this post-apocalyptic world.
First of all, that's abrilliant idea.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
It's such a brilliant idea and it's also it's a
brilliant idea because of thecommodity like oh, I got some
points.
We might have to spoilersection off this part when we
talk yeah.
Because some game things aregoing to be talked about.
Yeah, you can't not Right.
I mean final non-spoilerthoughts on this trailer.
I mean just it looks physicallyphenomenal.

(32:18):
I mean the work they're puttinginto the show.
You can tell that HBO knows howimportant this is.
They pumped some extra moneyinto the season.
You know that hbo said this isthis might be our staple at this
point.
This might be the one thatreally sells our network.
I mean house of the dragons.
I'm gonna be on break like this, them taking that january slot.
It's the first thing of theyear.
This rolls right into theoscars where people are already

(32:40):
in like, uh, I need some highcinema things.
Like it's the perfect place toput it.
And I mean just, god dang, thistrailer just looks great, like
I can't say much more beyondthat without getting into
spoilers.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, yeah, and I mean you know we did see, we saw
some new faces.
Finally, in this trailer we sawDina, we saw Jesse, we saw Abby
, we saw Jeffrey Wright.
Obviously he's back as isaac,which personally me, I'm the
most excited, hopefully that hegets kind of like an expanded
role.
For those of you don't know,jeffrey wright is in the last of

(33:12):
us, part two um, as isaac andhe kind of he's there, he's
there, but he's kind of, uh,he's kind of a tertiary
antagonist for, for a for for alater bit, but he, I might I say
jeff, say Jeffrey Wright islooking phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I don't know how old Jeffrey Wright is, but that
guy's keeping in shape, gettingOscar noms.
He's awesome.
But we do Channel favoriteJeffrey Wright.
We love Jeffrey Wright here.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
We do have to dive into some spoiler stuff.
I mean, we've spoiled this gameon previous episodes.
Yeah, we got our first reallook at caitlin devere as abby
and the first thought I had wasman, she looks a lot like abby,
it's?

Speaker 1 (33:51):
almost like they made a great pick, and I mean
something you're doing withcaitlin devere's as well, too is
understanding where she comesfrom for her acting career.
I mean, she's really well liked, in my opinion too.
I think a lot of people likeher, which is good, um, and we
and we talked about it.
I mean one thing that I I'mstill going to hold claim until
we find out who it is, or maybeit's somebody that you know is
not really well known, but Istill think throw an actor in

(34:13):
that in the role of her father,like throw it, throw an actor in
there that people love.
I'm still holding strong on myPaul Rudd one.
Like people love Paul Rudd.
What if Pedro Pascal murderedPaul Rudd?
The world?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
would be up in arms.
Yeah, I told you they have to.
You know not that I'm tellingthese professionals how to make
a TV show, but I think they haveto do something that the game
didn't do and make Abby not.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Don't make her this unknown, make her this known
that you want to root for beforethe horrible thing happens, and
the easiest way to do that isjust show loss, like show what
she's lost, like show she lost.
It's just this girl that all weknow is she lost her father and
she's trying to just keep thismilitaristic community that they
have afloat while they're atthis endless war with these

(35:00):
fanatics.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Essentially, Because the conflict within the viewer
or the player doesn't come withabby.
It doesn't come to way waylater in the game when you kind
of unpack all that like becausethe game obviously opts for this
, the shock value thing thatcomes in the first.
You know the first hour or twoof the game, right with what,
what happens with joel.
But I think for the tv show tobe effective you can't do that,

(35:25):
you gotta.
If Abby's going to be one ofyour POV characters, you have to
.
You have to make her feel like,you have to make it seem like
the actions that she's doing arejustified, because they are.
They are justified, but youhave to present it that way as
well.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Right and I mean obviously the the massive big
question is when is it going tohappen?

Speaker 2 (35:43):
When is it going to happen?

Speaker 1 (35:44):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
And it's going to happen.
It's going to happen Based onthese trailers.
It's going to happen and it'sgoing to happen this season.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
I think it would be a disservice to not have it
happen this season as well too.
I mean, ultimately, what's goingto happen is he's going to come
back in later seasons, in theflashbacks, In the flashbacks,
yeah, and that's where you canreally gut punch, because I
think they know, and I thinkPedro Pascal's team and him know
that you know how fruitful thiscan be for him and like how
much people love Joel and that'sjust the gaming community like

(36:15):
One of the biggest things fromthe end.
You know it's funny.
I know what's going to happenon Sunday that you're going to
send me on Sunday Happy birthday, kiddo.
It's going to happen.
And I mean, like that's what Ithink, like what I'm
rationalizing how I feel thestructure of this whole thing is
going to be.
Like I keep imagining like whatif you bring them back for that
scene in season three?
And you're like, oh, and thenyou have the tommy uh, the tommy

(36:38):
joel and ellie scene.
Where they're, he teaches herhow to use the cypher, like woof
, like, and you keep sprinklingpedro pascal back and you're
like, and again it drives homethe point, because I don't think
we're gonna, we're not gettingto any of the santa barbara
stuff till season three, likethat is, that is dedicated
season three and he said amazing, said like this is gonna need,
said like this is going to needfour seasons, like this will at

(37:01):
least need four season.
I still am of the accord thatwe're going to get the last of
us part three and the last of uspart three will be season four,
cause I think the second gameyou split into two seasons.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
I have a swing they're going tokill them in the first episode,
but they're going to tell thestory nonlinearly throughout the
whole season.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Oof man?
That would be crazy.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
For somebody that's as smart and that gives so much
back to the writing communitythat Craig Mazin does.
This is his biggest challengehe's ever done in his career,
because obviously season one isgoing to—it's weird to say,
because how complex season onewas and how incredibly executed
season one was it's gonna soundlike dumb to say this but like

(37:45):
it's a little easier than thisseason and season three.
Like this is might be in termsof like we're not naive, like
the gaming community is full ofcertain types of people.
Like yeah, you have possiblythe most difficult task you can
ask as a creative.
Like make everybody happy likethat's gonna be one of the most

(38:06):
difficult things he's gonna havein his head.
Like how do I keep everybodyhappy?
And like you can do the podcastafter each episode as much as
you want.
Like people's knee-jerkreaction is gonna be people's
knee-jerk reaction.
Yeah, I think ultimately that'swhy-jerk reaction.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, I think ultimately that's why I think
you know kind of to dissuadefrom your point is, I think
they're going to hold it off onit for at least till mid-season,
if not till later in the season.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
I think it's too easy to do it in the season finale,
because I think it and againwe've talked about the Last of
Us, part II, and you my stanceon the whole thought process
that that's the whole point.
Like it's not supposed to feelgood that he's dead.
That's the point.
Like that's why they did it inthe beginning of the game.
Like this sucks, like this I,and it's both ways.

(38:52):
It's allegorical Cause, likeyou know, Ellie lost her father
figure, but like we lost ourpoint of view, character and
like.
And then you start asking thegrief questions Like where are
they?
What could we have done?
Like you can't, there's, youdon't have any power over this.
It's done, it's over.
And now you have to sit withthat pain, like I think Mason's
smart enough to understand.
Like the earlier you do givesthe, the audience like abuse

(39:19):
them, like an abuser characters.
Like abuse them, like get themreally in a horrible place
before you can give them anymore any sort of emotional
catharsis.
After that.
I feel like I just feel likehe's too good, like he, like I
said, this is his biggestchallenge, but it could be his
biggest triumph on top of thatyeah, yeah, I'm just, I'm super,
you know, it's like the thosewho know, those who don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
But like.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
I can't wait to see people that have never played
the game's reaction to all this.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I cannot wait yeah, and I mean hopefully they've
been able to stay away from yeahstuff you know um the ballerina
trailer the book from the bookof john wick.
They should have called it thebook of john all the movies are
chapter one, chapter two,chapter three.
Why did you not call this theBook of John Wick?
I don't understand.
But anyway, we did get theballerina trailer and Darmus is

(40:05):
in her action bag Again.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
That's something we talked about when we were
talking about no Time to Die,like how she was such a bright
spot in that movie too.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yeah, she's getting one in this trailer and it looks
very John Wick-ish.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
And at this point in the John Wick universe, that's
exactly what you need to go for.
You understand the assignment.
Yeah, they did a.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Dragon Ball beam struggle with a flamethrower and
a fire hose, but then also theaction's super tight.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
The action's still super tight, the action's great.
Rip to Lance Reddick.
This is his last role that hehas.
Um, I mean, the big thing, thebig needle drop, is that keanu
reeves is back.
Yep keanu.
Reeves said his end arm is inthis movie and they said yes, he
said I will be in this moviethen takes place between three
and four.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
So all you don wick, for he survived at the end.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Truthers we'll have to wait.
Yeah, relax um, give it alittle bit.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
He did survive, but anyway he definitely did um, it
is.
Yeah, it looks great.
I'm super excited for this.
Um, in terms of spinoff stuff,everything gets a spinoff now,
but I think this is a universeand a lore that has been built
up well enough.
Um, after four john wick films,that it deserves.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
It deserves a spinoff and I think the lore of this
world is very interesting yeah,and I mean after four we talked
about how technically sound that4 was as well too Like this
John Wick series is such astaple of Hollywood at this
point, and like the idea ofmodern action kind of runs
through John Wick, so you know,more power to them.
I think that Ando Armis lookslike she's having a boatload of

(41:33):
fun with this as well too, and Ithink that's awesome.
So as long as the action'stight, you give me some sort of
narrative that's like all right,then I'll be fine.
Like I don't need every movieto be goodfellas, but I mean,
like I said, after no Time toDie with this.
Like this might be somethingthat end to Armis.
Like this might be her bag.
Like this action, because shelooks somewhat believable Not

(41:55):
somewhat.
She looks pretty dangbelievable and, dare I say,
comfortable in this action roleas well too, agreed, agreed,
yeah, I'm super excited for it.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Um, then, the only miscellaneous thing I got,
netflix came out with a bunch ofstuff.
Um, black mirror got a littleteaser trailer.
Um, which you know I'm, blackmirror is like one of those old
hat netflix shows.
At this point it's like the old, it's like old yeller, it's
like one of the old yeller showsof netflix, which I think is
cool that it's still kickingaround.
Um, and then a bunch ofanimation stuff.
So arcane got a new trailer,which that show is phenomenal.

(42:27):
Um, and then two, uh two videogame adaptations got animated
trailers.
Splinter cell um, got ananimated trailer which if you've
never played the splinter Cellgames, I highly recommend you
track them down because they aregreat.
And Devil May Cry, which Ithink if again, I love this idea
that this is how malleable andwhy I love video game

(42:48):
adaptations so much they're somalleable.
Like you can do the Last of Usand have it be live action.
Like you've got to tailor thething you're adapting to the
medium and I think you can't doDevil May Cry in live action.
You can try, but it will comeoff looking really cheap and
really dumb.
In my opinion, devil May Cry isripe for an anime-style thing.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Now you're the anime guy here, I'm the high cinema
guy here.
I'm excited for that, for DevilMay Cry, for one reason, and
his name's Johnny YoungboshJohnny.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Youngbosh.
Yes, johnny Youngbosh isvoicing Dante Devil May Cry.
Fans will also know JohnnyYoungbosh as Nero in the Devil
May Cry, in Devil May Cry 4 and5 and I just learned that 20
minutes ago, which is funny, heis.
Nero is Dante's nephew, he'sVirgil's son, and, and so Johnny
Youngbash is going to end andpeople were like why Dante's had
three different voice actorsover the course of the Devil May

(43:40):
Cry games.
So I think Johnny and the lastDante voice actor quit acting.
So, yeah, johnny Youngbash,he's great.
He's a great voice actor.
He's done a ton of great voicework and I'm just excited to see
when the season inevitably endsand they tease Virgil at the
end, because that's essential.
That's exactly what they'regonna do.
Um, because people are like,where's virgil?

(44:01):
He's gonna show up at the endof the season.
You, you just watch, um, marvel, marvel stuff, thunderbolts
trailer.
Yeah, um, we talked about thisa while back because it got
leaked, um, so we watched it onour grainy little, grainy little
secondhand cams and we talkedabout a little bit, and now
we've actually seen it and, um,all the things that we said
about this trailer and thismovie beforehand still stand.

(44:25):
I think this movie is going tobe quite good it just looks.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
It looks like the age of ultron days of the way that
they were shooting these movies.
But it's also got a.
Really.
I mean, dare I say it, becauseI'm thinking of fc.
I won't say the name becauseit's high cinema court.
I won't say the name of themovie because you never talk
about FC, but it's got thatfinish to it, like it's got that
action, it's got that early2000s action.
Little bit of finish on top ofit too.

(44:50):
This movie's color graded.
I was surprised.
I said wait a minute, wait aminute.
This looks like there's a colorfinish on top of this too.
But I mean, you want to talkcharacter-wise.
This is kind of how you have tofocus on this as well too,
before we get nerdy.
I mean, this movie looks likeit's going to be a boatload of

(45:14):
fun, but also, you know, gritty,grungy and like a much-needed
piece, I think, in the modernday of Marvel, because this is a
big piece we've been missingfor a little bit.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Something like this, yep, yeah, yeah, I agree, and I
think you know we talked aboutit when the trailer was kind of
leaked online, basically, youknow, confirming that Yelena is
going to be kind of like the POVcharacter, which I think is
brilliant.
Um, it's nice, obviously, thatwe're going to have like an
ensemble cast, but even inensemble cast, and I think
having it be Yelena is great.
I mean, my only otheralternative would have been John

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Walker.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yeah, and we've talked about how great of a
character we think and how muchpotential he has in this
universe as John Walker, and youknow, I think I talked to you
One character I would have lovedto see them, but this is a
hindsight's 2020, because hethought his movie was getting
made.
I feel like, especiallypost-Secret Invasion, don
Cheadle would have been perfectfor somebody like that, for

(46:00):
something like this, like, putyou know, you have a Captain
America, you have an Iron man,like put them all in this movie
and then have it, you know,because I still think this is
going to turn out to them allbeing the Dark Avengers.
This is what it's going to.
They're in Avengers Tower inthis.
Yeah, you get the world's youknow, most perfect,
quote-unquote, most perfectsuper soldier out of all this
too.
So this trailer introduces Bob,which, for all my friends inside

(46:25):
baseball, you're Century fromthe Marvel comics, aren't you?
Mm-hmm.
Lewis Pullman from Bob Pullman?
Shout out.
So what do you think the dealis?
What's the deal?
What's the deal with theThunderbolts?
I'm going to call it now.
I'm going to.
Is I?
What's the deal?
What's the deal with thethunder?
I'm gonna call it now.
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna get my, my nerdtheory.
I think that they're gonna mixthe extremis with the, with the

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super soldiers with erskine'ssuper, like the perfected
version of erskine serum.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
So you're telling me there's a chance that extreme
biote could be no, no, not to.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
we're not doing this two weeks around, absolutely not
.
You're telling me there's achance.
I think what's gonna happen isearth's kind serum mixed with
the extremists, like they'regonna mix all the super soldier
serums from around the universe,and what's gonna happen is
pretty good, it's gonna have thereaction that's a never ending
reaction that mimics the uh,that mimics the power of a

(47:14):
thousand exploding suns.
Wait, you're century for marvelcomics, aren't you?
Oh, no, he's, he's the Void now, yeah, and it's going to split
Bob Psyche in two and then we'regoing to I don't, they're not
going to take the swing where,like, he goes to Doctor Strange
because obviously he can't go toRebirth.
No, no, no, no, don't startthis.

(47:34):
Yeah, battle of New York.
He was everywhere, don't?
start this, why not?

Speaker 2 (47:39):
We got enough of that in Agatha all along.
We don't need to be doing thisnow with the Thunderbolts.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
But we were right.
In Agatha, they did the thingin Agatha, all along, they did
do the thing, they did the thing.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
But no, this trailer looks super cool.
Super interesting things arehappening.
I like that because one of thecomplaints about this when it
was announced was like all thesecharacters kind of do the same
stuff and in this trailer we'vewe come to, we come to learn
that they definitely do not doall the same stuff.
They all have a very particularset of skills.
To quote a great movie takenfrom liam neeson, they all have

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a very particular set of skills,um, the best of which I think
might be ghost.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I told you before we hopped on.
I said I'm most keen to seeGhost out of everybody in this
trailer because also I thinkthat her character is fun as
heck.
I think she's going to do agreat job.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Made me retroactively angry at Peyton Reed.
I still don't think that'sPeyton Reed's fault.
Where was this cool stuff inthe Ant-Man movie that this
character was doing?
Maybe he didn't have it yet.
They threw a knife at her.
She phased through the knife,caught the knife on the other
end.
I'm like, whoa, is she cool now, is she?

Speaker 1 (48:41):
yeah, she might lock in the heat check performance of
the whole movie.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah, it's not gonna be taskmaster I'll tell you that
right now it might betaskmaster in the first 15
minutes, like they did in thesuicide swabs um red guardians
in this yeah, david harbour'shaving a bunch of drunk fun and
he might die.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
I mean, I wouldn't see him surviving after this too
, and I feel like you know who Ithink he's gonna have an
interesting relationship with.
It's gonna be john walker,because he didn't get his due
with steve rogers.
So john walker's the next thinghe's like yeah, you're a
disappointment.
And john walker's, like I knowum bucky going after them.
Yeah, well, I mean obviously,what's the thing?
Bucky's a senator now.

(49:21):
Well, he's not.
Bucky's doing the old Americanthing where I don't care that
you're a politician, you're alsogoing to lead the army, he's
definitely doing some WinterSoldier-esque brooding at the
end of the trailer.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
He's got the Winter Soldier gun again.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
He's got the Winter Soldier hair.
He's got the Winter Soldierhair.
He's back.
He's never been more back.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
He's never been more back.
He's shooting the Thunderboltscar.
Yeah, interesting.
Yeah, is he like?
What's the deal there?

Speaker 1 (49:45):
They're going to punch for it.
Well, he's going to.
The government's going to sendhim after the Thunderbolts, who
are obviously on the run, andthen Bucky, heck, bob.
They probably take bob.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
They're like we're not just gonna murder this, this
innocent man and, of course,like they would send bucky and
it's kind of that is kind of aninteresting turn for bucky too,
like he went from being thehydra's weapon to being the us
government and he can't escapeit and this movie, a big thing
is self-identity, in my opinion,and then obviously the biggest
surrogate for that is bob, butit trickles throughout.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Everybody, and I mean you go to John and Yolanda
talks about it in the trailerit's purpose.
Like what's my purpose, they'regoing on the Richie from the
bear season 2 arc.
Like what's my purpose, cuzlike what's what is my purpose?
I think it's a super good ideaand especially for these
characters, and it's such asmart way to do it, and you can
tell they carefully pick thisteam as well, too.
Yep, that's apparent, and, likeI said, this is why I would

(50:38):
have loved to see Rhodey in thismovie too.
Again, especially after SecretInvasion, what a better time to
talk about what his purpose is.
He did not have control overhimself for how many?
We don't know how long.
We don't know how long it wasfor.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
But I digress on that point.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
But I mean, this trailer looks tight.
It looks sharp.
I wasn't expecting it to lookthis technically sound as well
too, so I'm really invested.
I'm really invested in thesecharacters.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I hope it maintains it and, taskmaster, I hope it
maintains it.
Man, I hope it maintains it andI hope it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
I hope the third act doesn't unravel this movie.
Yeah, I thought the same exactthing and again there's a big
needle drop in this moviesomewhere, because we don't.
Apparently we're supposed toknow what this?
Asterisk means yeah, they'regoing to be the dark avengers.
They're just going to be thegovernment's avengers, or dallas
avengers, specifically yeah, Imean, that makes a.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
That makes a lot of sense, I think.
Um, ghost rider got got some,got some buzz in the last couple
weeks.
Um, apparently marvel studios,or at least someone at marvel
studios, has been pitching aghost rider disney plus series
that would follow danny ketch,the danny ketch version of ghost
rider.
No, why, yeah, why would youpick?
Why would you pick the third,the third best ghost rider out

(51:50):
of three to adapt?
I mean, I understand they'vedone johnny blaze, they've done.
Um, why is the other robbie ray, as they've done, but Robbie
Reyes?
incredibly, well, I might sayjust do one of those again.
Don't do Danny Catch, just do.
If you're gonna do Ghost Rider,do one of those would be, would
be my, my ask um.

(52:10):
Danny Catch also hashilariously the worst looking
Ghost Rider costume yeah, it's,it's not great, I must say so
don't do that, marvel, if you'regoing to do Ghost Rider Also.
we're going to talk about Agathanow, but the mystical stuff
I've been saying over the lastcouple weeks my refrain has been
their mystical stuff is themost kind of consistent that
they've been doing.

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So let's talk about Agatha allalong briefly.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Just overall thoughts on the first three episodes now
I mean you, you want to talkabout the cell of this being the
second part of the trilogy,which is the the wandavision
trilogy.
It's, it's, it's an incredible,it's incredible bridge piece,
and I mean it's down to payinghomage to the narrative
structure of what wandavision isit lets?

Speaker 2 (52:53):
katherine han flex is like oh, I'm not the hero of
this thing, like I'm stillAgatha, I love that they're not
doing like oh, here's thisridiculous, I'm a good guy now I
suck, I suck and I know I suck,I know I'm not a good person on
top of that too, but theremight be someone else in this
show that sucks more yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Aubrey.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Plaza, she's her.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Actually I'm impressed.
Aubrey Plaza.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Yeah, she's her.
Yeah, actually, yeah, yeah, Imean.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
I, I'm impressed.
I'm actually decently impressed.
I mean, again, we keep sayingit all the time, but this show's
tone is tight.
They know exactly what type ofshow this is and there's no
variation that they're having.
We saw the third and usuallynotoriously the disney plus
third episodes are the one wherethey start to fall moon night,
probably sun moon night, and onemarvel, miss marvel, the cat

(53:47):
falcon and the winter soldierdoes it as well too.
Like the third episode isalways where these shows
structure starts to bleed alittle bit.
Because you don't, becauseyou're in your head, you're like
all right, right, we have fourweeks, we have three weeks after
this, but how can we keep thisgoing?
But how are we already halfwaythrough but we only have three
weeks left?
Like, it's not necessarilyimmediately understandable, but

(54:08):
this is a solid third episodeand this is six, right, this is
six or seven.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
It's got to be more than that.
No, it has to be seven right.
I think it's eight, becausethey're doing two the last week,
like they're starting the week.
They're starting with two andthen ending with two.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
They're ending with two, and that's going to be what
On Halloween or the day it'snine.
It's nine.
Oh, they are doing nineepisodes.
So I mean let's just get intospecifics.
So I mean this is legitimatelyWandaVision 2.0, because what
they do is they structure itlike the mayor of East Town.
She's essentially, you know,down to like this is a Philly
suburb, down to the accents inthere.

(54:46):
I love her accent.
I love her accent.
I love also how crass she is ontop of it.
She's very crass.
And then just the little detailthat I think is so freaking
good is when she gets up to thepolice tape and Herb's there,
because she's the only one nowleft under the under the
impression, so everybody else isjust normal.
So she gets up to the policetape, but she, she can't.

(55:10):
She never crosses the tapebecause that's Herb's fence.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
So he's like, hey, neighbor, and it's like you
don't think twice about it untilshe goes and they frame it
exactly when she goes backoutside, you're like yep, oh,
wait, yeah, she's still trappedin here yeah, I, almost it made
me I understand why they onlydid it for part of the first
episode, but like it did make mewish, like they did kind of do
a little wandavision stuff forlike maybe two episodes of like
her being trapped in this inthis thing.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
But then I understand , like you're retreading
familiar ground and again Idon't want to do, and it was the
last part of like televisionhistory that we didn't get to.
We didn't get to the streamingera, through all of that which I
thought, it was in my opinion.
I thought that was a coollittle Easter egg for myself of
like this was the last part oftelevision that we didn't reach,
yeah, and it's like it's kindof oxymoronic as well,

(56:00):
encapsulated inside of a pieceof streaming content.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
On top of that too, yeah, and you know, eventually,
you know, rio inserts herselfinto this equation, as does the
teen.
They were smashing right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, um.
And you realize, agatha wakesup, um, from her, from her, from
her long, long nightmare,realizing that she's been under
the spell of the Scarlet Witchfor three years, three years.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yeah, that kind of gave me a what the.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Yeah, wanda Dang, dude, she knows how to hold a
grudge.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Did I ever talk about my Marvel theory, Like my
Marvel conspiracy theory, Aboutwhat Like after?
The pandemic theory that likethey've purposely been doing
weird stuff to catch, wait forit to catch up and it's finally
catching, and now it's literallyabout to be 2025 and most of
those projects were taking placein 2023 so agatha, basically,

(56:51):
um, she's gonna form a coven,yes, and she forms that coven.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
She does form that coven who's in?

Speaker 1 (56:56):
who's in that coven?

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Who's in?

Speaker 1 (56:57):
that coven.
The teen, the teen, who's theteen?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
He's Wiccan.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
He's Wiccan.
He's Wiccan, but he's.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Billy Kaplan.
I don't know how they're goingto relate this back to Wanda as
well too.
What's the thought process here?
What are we doing?
Is this he's just Billy Kaplanto beat Billy Kaplan, or is?
Do you think that Wanda somehow, before the Hex was over, she
was powerful enough to get Billyand Tommy's consciousness out
and, like, get them into theworld so they can go into
somebody else's body?

(57:25):
Oh, I definitely think she'spowerful enough to do that.
Yeah, something's interesting.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
I mean, I think it's.
I think it's interesting thefact that I, I I do have a thing
, I do, I am, as the show goesforward, I do think she's going
to show up.
I still don't think so.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
But what they could do and man retroactively, if I
was writing the show because Ican't help myself, because, as
much as I like to call peopleout for it, I am a little nerd
as well too know, the two peoplefrom the commercials were her
actual parents and then in jamesrobinson's scarlet witch run
where she go that's the firstappearance of the witch's road
like she sees her mother on thewitch's road.
Like, instead of seeing thescarlet witch, you see the
mother of the scarlet witch.
That would have beeninteresting.

(58:11):
And also the mother of thescarlet witch is somebody that
agatha knew all along.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Ah, ah, um, but yeah, I mean we get, we get a bunch
of different, bunch of differentuh characters in this, um, so
obviously we have.
So we have teen I talked abouthim who's definitely wiccan he's
I think joe lock's doing apretty solid job too.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
I'm actually enjoying his character quite a bit me
too.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Um, deborah joe rup comes back as mrs davis slash.
Mrs heart, I love the idea, Ilove the turn that that
character took Like when youthought like, is she secretly a
witch?
No, she was just a long-filledrod.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I actually like the see, I like the, I like the
little bit of ambiguity of like,because and you know what they
do well as well too they talkabout it early, where they're
like well, there's this amountof witches in this amount of
space per like square, whatever,like this, how many witches
could live in the space?
So you're like, wait a minute,because she couldn't be a actual
witch.

(59:04):
That just isn't, because wandadidn't know she was a witch,
like she couldn't be a witch.
That just didn't know she was awitch.
And then they did the.
Well, she's the green witch andshe's just like, I know how to
plant, I know, I know how togarden you're like surely she
couldn't just be a witch thatdidn't know right, she wasn't,
she was just a lovely lady.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
We get Shazir Zamata as Jen.
Great job Fantastic.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
She's the potions witch.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Yeah, which is great Alian as Alice Wu Gulliver.
She's the witch with legacy Yep, the witch with legacy yep, and
then the great Patti LuPone asLillia.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
She actually might be my favorite out of this whole
thing.
She's been phenomenal thiswhole series so far too.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
She's the Divination Witch, which is Foresight, yep.
And then, obviously, aubreyPlaza as the Green Witch, as Rio
Vidal, who, I mean, she's deathright, maybe, I don't know,
maybe I mean, I feel like that'scoming.
So what's the thing?
What's?

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
the whole thing.
What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
The Salem Seven are coming after Agatha in the only
way she can escape them.
Proper horror at the end ofepisode two, the only way she
can escape them is to get herpowers back and go down the
witch's road.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Yeah, that was some proper horror that they pulled
out in there too, that was someproper horror.
I was not expecting that onebit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Yeah, so I mean they got me.
After three episodes that's allI can say I was getting, you
know, ever more optimistic aboutthe show, like with the
trailers and everything.
And now that I've seen thesethree, I'm in.
I'm in.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
I'm very in.
I mean, it's a great way tostructure the first two episodes
and then you hit three and thisis, you know, this is nine
episodes.
Like understanding, like let'sdo the trial, like we're
actually going to do the trialeach episode.
So episode three was a verygood.
Episode three was the.
It was water, right, what is it?
It's elemental.

(01:00:55):
I forget how this works.
It was explained.
I forget how this works.
It was explained.
I forget how this whole thingworks.
But, um, next week subsequentlywould be fire.
No, yeah and then you keep goingso I mean I'm, I'm just in
these, I'm actually kind ofinterested.
What they're doing is leading,leaving little breadcrumbs for
all these characters as well too, which I think has been pretty,
pretty well done.
Yep, so I'm, I'm, I'm actually,I like at first you had my

(01:01:19):
curiosity, but now you have myattention.
I truthfully am like this islike that Marvel week to week.
I'm actually like what's goingto go down next week?
I'm actually in, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I told you the mystical, magical side of this
Marvel Cinematic Universe.
They really got a handle on it.
Whether it's the Doctor Strangemovies, whether it's
WandaVision, whether it'sWerewolf by Night, they really
got a handle on it.
Whether it's the doctor strangemovies, whether it's
wandavision, whether it'swerewolf by night, um, they
really got a handle on it andI'm super, super excited.
It seems like that's the most,it seems like that's where they
have the most fun, yes, on thatside of, on that side of marvel.
So, um, super excited to keepgoing with agatha.

(01:01:52):
Um, and then we'll just finishup with some dz news.
So, first and foremost, we gotsome lanterns casting.
After much speculation, it doesappear that Kyle Chandler will
be Hal Jordan.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
What a pick that you're like those are my
favorites, where you're like youdidn't even think of the person
and then the person gets castand you're like, oh shoot,
that's actually incredible.
It's pretty good, dude, I don'tknow.
I love this freaking self forthe show.
That, how jordan is old likethis is because I think we
talked about it.
Off off the pod too, they'redoing I think james is trying to

(01:02:24):
build the justice leagueunlimited roster, because
superman, batman, wonder woman,flash, martian man, hunter, hawk
girl and green lantern, johnstork, green lantern like yep,
you can easily get that teamtogether inside this universe.
And if you want this whole ideaof gods and monsters, I feel

(01:02:44):
like Martian Manhunter is acharacter in live action that
hasn't had his due yet outsideof Supergirl.
A good place to put him in themovie, that would be pretty cool
.
So, no, I'm really, I'mtruthfully invested.
I just love this idea of whathe's doing.
We'll talk about the BaneDeathstroke thing, because
that's my only question.

(01:03:05):
Yeah, I, I don't have anyreason not to trust James Gunn.
And I mean I, I just know, whenthat first trailer for Superman
comes out, I'm gonna be like,yeah, yep, yep he understands,
yeah, yeah, he truthfullyunderstands it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
But um, yeah, so we got Kyleyle chandler's hal
jordan and then it is appears tonow be behind.
Be between aaron pierre andstefan james for the john seward
role.
And I mean, I think, beforeaaron pierre shout out to you,
was one of the names that youthrew out there and I knew it in
a weird way.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
It was it.
We've had it over the last,like Austin Butler, jonathan
Majors and a channel favorite.
Why can't I remember, why am Iforgetting my favorite cinema
actor right now of the moment?

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Timothy Chalamet no Glenn.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Powell, where we were like over the course of this
pod, these people had like, allright, we're here.
We're here.
Moments Like we're truthfullyhere.
Moments like aaron pierre justhad he visit, he just had his
like three weeks ago, whererebel ridge came out on netflix
and everybody was like you needto see this movie on netflix.
Rebel ridge like this movie haspotential to be like we might

(01:04:13):
be seeing like a big time actionstar evolve amongst our eyes,
and I think that's the truth.
I think as soon as that moviecame out, both Marvel and DC
picked up the phone and we werelike we need to speak to his
agents.
A, s, a, p, we I don't carewhat the project is, we need him
in the universe, and I meanimagine he is the main John
Stewart for those movies.
Not bad to have him locked downfor for a number of years too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Yeah locked down for a number of years too.
Yeah yeah, I think both ofthose casting choices would be
great.
I think the Aaron Pierre pickis probably where you want to go
.
I think that's great.
I would be super keen to seesome live-action Green Lantern
stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Yeah, and I mean again, the sell of this show is
so awesome, this truedetective-esque like.
I don't know man, I just thinkthat's so cool.
This older john store or thisolder hal jordan, that's like he
already did everything, he'salready passed everything.
Like he's already, like I did,I did the emerald midnight, like
I did, like I just like Ihelped destroy, I already did

(01:05:13):
parallax, like all those thingsalready happened to me.
And again, what that's gonnahelp in this universe is
superman.
Like.
When superman shows up in thislived in universe, people are
gonna be like, oh, that's,that's what the hero is supposed
to look like.
Yeah, so, and we already haveanother green like.
So you know there's alreadygreen lanterns floating around
in this universe as well too.
So, and guy gardner, he's olderas well too.

(01:05:35):
Guy gardner's also older inthis because he's nathan fillion
, who's in his 50s, right, early50s.
Like you know, this universe hasbeen lived in for a little bit,
but man, what a pick kylechandler is.
That's such a pick where Ididn't even think about it and I
was just like, oh, yeah, he'sgot the voice too.
Yeah, like he's got this veryhal jordan like, I think is how
jordan's gonna be like I used tobe that cocky fly boy that like

(01:05:56):
was super arrogant, and then Igot humbled and then I got evil
and then I saved myself.
Like John, I can, I can teachyou a thing or two.
And John's going to be like youcan't teach me anything.
And if you guys, I I told you Ithink they're going to do
blackest night I think that'sthe conspiracy Like they're
going to find a dead body andlike the Guardian's going to be
like can you guys, do you guysmind checking that out?

(01:06:17):
Like is that a big key?
You guys should see what that?
Because we don't.
We don't think this thing'sgoing to do anything.
He said the Guardians are likeall right, 50-50, y'all One.
This is just a murder.
B.
The whole universe is about toend.
I just think you guys shouldjust check that out real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
I think you guys should take a look.
Real.
I'm super excited to see it.
So the Hollywood Reporter hasreported that there is a green
light for a Bane and Deathstrokefilm that will be penned by the
writer of Captain America.
Brave New World, and that's aninteresting pairing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
That's a very interesting pairing, unless
they're trying to do theSinister Six.
Nope, nope, I think they'retrying to do a League of
Supervillains thing.
They're just trying to get alltheir ducks in a row to make
sure that happens.
I just what a sell.
I mean, bane and Deathstrokeare essentially two super
soldiers in their own right.

(01:07:10):
I just don't know what wouldcross them paths, unless this is
something that's going to be aprerequisite to a Batman movie.
That's going to be aprerequisite to a Batman movie,
because I don't know if James isgoing to take an amalgamation
of the.
Who was writing Batman when allthis stuff happened?
I forget, I think it was.
Who was writing Batman.
I forget who was writing Batmanat the time, but it's one of
the newer iterations of Batmanwhere it's the city of Bane,

(01:07:32):
like I wonder if he's going totry to do something like that
and like make Bane, like crossbetween Nolan's Bane and comic
Bane somewhere in the middle ofthat, and then, finally,
deathstroke gets his live actiondue.
Titans, you did it, we know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Joe Manganiello was Deathstroke, don't forget Go, he
was Joe Manganiello in onepost-credit scene.
We're going to find a league ofour own.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Whoa whoa.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Hold on, wait a minute.
Hold on Zack Snyder in your 50trillion post-credit scenes.
Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Is this play about us ?
Huh, I'm so.
Oh, oh, no, don't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
And, by the way, Some call me Martian Manhunter.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Ben Affleck's, like I'm so done.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
All Ben Affleck's like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I'm so done, alright, ben.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Affleck's like get me off this set man, I don't know
what's happening yeah, I mean, Ithink to your point like Bane
and Deathstroke.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
They don't immediately come to mind as like
let's be buddies, let's be pals.
It would be funny though Bane,deathstroke, buddy cop against
who?

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
who would be the funniest DC character?
Mr Mixapitalic, mr Terrific, mr.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Terrific, mr Terrific , mr Terrific, mr Terrific is
just being pranked by Bane andDeathstroke for two hours.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
No, guy Gardner, nathan Fillion's Guy Gardner,
jay Garrick, Jay Garrick.
No, I don't know man.
I don't know what the sell ofthis is, unless it's like Bane,
pre-serum Bane.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
and he's just a smart guy, A smart tactician guy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Yeah, a smart tactician guy that while
Deathstroke's on a mission isjust like you could be good at
this.
One day, Come with me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Here's some super steroids.
Yeah, have fun.
And now he's a giant human.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
You got to.
I mean, I guess not.
I was going to say you callBatista for Bane.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
People have been kicking him around for Hugo
Strange and I'm like you knowwhat it's not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
It's actually really great yeah, especially after
Blade Runner 2.
After Blade Runner 2049, I candefinitely see him as a Hugo
Strange.
He's an actor now.
Yeah, he is.
He's not just a big muscle guyanymore.
No, he's a high cinema actor.
Show some respect.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Do you just oh Deeb, I know you want like, do you
just have Joe Manganiello comeback?

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
You probably, you probably get the conversation
going with him.
You say like, hey, this is yourchance.
This is going to be separateLike, let's take a swing, he's
got a great look.
Oh, a hundred percent for Bane.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Oh for Deathstroke.
Oh for I'm sorry ForDeathstroke, oh heck.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
yeah, suit was also great Suit was great.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
There's it's a hard suit not to get.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
No, I mean there's days where I still wish Ben
Affleck got like Ben Affleckversus Joe Manganiello for
J-Lo's heart Like what a film.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Yeah, I think it's super interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
I'm trying to think casting right now, like who do
you get to play?
Like who's somebody that canplay a good Deathstroke, like I
feel like Batista would be goodfor Bane, somebody that Gunn's
familiar with as well too.
I wonder who's going to directthis movie on top of that too.
So I'm really, I'm really likeI'm really thinking you know

(01:10:41):
what's the funniest one?
George Clooney for Deathstroke,for Deathstroke.
Yeah, who do you pick to playDeathstroke?

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
I don't know, I mean yeah, I mean you know it's funny
Like play to play deathstroke.
I don't know, I mean yeah, Imean you know it's funny like he
hasn't gotten a lot of playinglive action but like everyone
that's been casted emma's hasbeen pretty good.
Um, like manu bennett did anoutstanding job on arrow.
Um, I quite like the guy whoplayed him on titans.
I thought he was, yeah, he wasa proper menace.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
He was, and that's the point he was.
And they took the teen titansoriginal show concept of like.
Obviously it's from the comic,but like from the Judas Contract
which the Titans did adapt.
But it's like yeah, deathstrokehates these, he hates them, he
properly hates them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Saw Stephen Lang for one for a good Deathstroke
casting Look you'll never tellme no, you'll never get me to
say no to Stephen Lang.
I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
It would be fun it would be a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Keanu reeves um.
I don't think he's acting.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Fifth deathstroke immediately no, I don't think.
Call brolin, call brolin, he'snot doing.
He's not doing lanterns anymore.
Call brolin.
Oh, that's interesting.
Also, glenn powell is playinghe's Gold.
No, because you saw his hair.
He was at some event, yeah, andhis hair was bright blonde.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Yeah, um yeah, yeah, I could see, I could see.
Um Brolin is a good TimothyOliphant.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Oliphant probably would be fun too.
I feel like a little bit ofdrama added on to him as well
too.
Give Walter Goggins a littlering.
Tell him to hit the weight roomfor a couple weeks He'd have to
hit the weight room, we'll getyou swole.
Oh, andrew Lincoln would be afun one too.
To play Deathstroke oh, he'sgot the build for it 100%.
He does Give him a villain role.

(01:12:27):
On top of that too, I feel likehe would have a ball with that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Just do Andrew Lincoln and Deathstroke and do
Bernthal as Bane, just for thememes.
Who's so?
We're lost.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
We're lost Bane.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
We're lost.
We're lost in Africa Bane.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Jared Padalecki.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Too young.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
No, not that he's too young Too pretty.
Yeah, he's too handsome, I meanfor he's too young Too pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Yeah, he's too handsome For Deathstroke.
Jensen Hackles yeah, dude, Ireally like that Kyle Chandler
pick for Hal Jordan.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
It's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
I really like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Yeah, super News, superman and Supergirl News.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Yeah, alan Tudyk has been cast in a mystery add him
to a new channel favorite, alantudyk.
We like alan tudyk.
We like alan tudyk when heplays a robot fella.
Yeah, he's great as right.
All I'm saying is he's done itlike three times.
And why have you done it threetimes, alan tudyk?
You're either a weird monsterguy.
He might be doing it a fourthtime, yeah depending on who he
is in super, no, he's notplaying red tornado.
make him red tornado, cut it out.

(01:13:29):
Make Make him a Mezo.
No, no, don't take mine.
I told you, what if he played aMezo?
So he just keeps playing arobot Like a morally no.
If he's Red Tornado, he's amorally ambiguous android again.
Yeah, I love iRobot.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
James Gunn's, like I love iRobot, that'd be great.
I don't know they.
Hey, look, it's Alan Tudyk forfive seconds in a scene, and
that's it, or he's.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
I don't know, maybe he's Batman.
John John Jor-El.
John DC Comics.
John Superman.
You're John Superman fromcomics.
He's Superman's dad.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
No, no, no, no, he couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
No, no, I think you're right.
He couldn't do it.
No, no, I think you're right.
I just think he's, I just thinkTudyk's like a fun guy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
So they just throw him in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
And then Matthias.
Oh boy, skonerts, skonerts,shonerts.
I don't know Matthias.
Hmm, I don't know Matthias.
Hmm, it's a name.
I don't know what this guy'sbeen in.

(01:14:39):
I've Googled him and I have notseen anything that he's been in
.
Good, Good.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
I think that's a little bit of a good thing
sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
He will be the villain in the Supergirl movie.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Which this movie I mean.
We talked about how excited weare for this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
I think this movie is going to be particularly
incredible.
Who's directing this movieagain?
Um oh oh.
I knew this and now I don'tknow it anymore.
No, not the 1984 film.
God damn it.
If you find it before I do, letme know oh, craig gillespie oh,
yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Starring another channelfavorite, millie alcock.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Yes, um which I think was the right, like overall.
That's one of those thingswhere it's like it's the you
know, I feel like bella ramseyimmediately comes to mind where
it's like you got to get theperson that has the most edge
and grit to a character likesupergirl or a character
especially the Supergirl Womanof Tomorrow storyline.
So my promise is I'm going toread that whole storyline by the

(01:15:37):
time that movie comes out so Ican be an expert on it, because
I know he's playing creme fromthat storyline.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Filmography he was in .
Hmm, nothing that I've seen.
Bullhead, Rust and Bone,Chimpanzee, the Danish Girl.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Oh, the Danish Girl.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
He wasn't the Danish Girl.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
That got some play.
I think that was an.
Oscar-nominated movie.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
The Mustang.
He was nominated for anIndependent Spirit Award for
Best Male Lead Nice.
Yeah, rust and Bone appears tobe what he was nominated for the
most awards for okay sick.
Um, television, a bunch of stufffrom belgium, all right.

(01:16:23):
So he's he's relatively unknownbut he's been working for a
long time.
Um, he is 46 and has beenacting since 1992.
He received critical acclaimfor his portrayal of an
ex-soldier suffering from PTSDand disorder and for his
performance as an inmatetraining a wild horse in the
Mustang.
And he will be the main villainin Supergirl.
So that's super cool, probablyplaying Krem.

(01:16:44):
Yeah, I guess we can justfinish up talking about the
Penguin a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Not bad, pretty good.
Is he Tony Soprano DC?

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Yes, yup, we knew that going in we knew that going
in, that this was just this DCSopranos and it's pretty, pretty
good.
Um, mark Strong as a recastedCarmine Falcone.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
That's fine.
Yeah, everybody, mark Strong'sone of those guys where it's
like oh, that's Mark Strong,yeah, mark.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Strong's one of those guys where it's like, oh,
that's Mark Strong, Look what'shis name.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
John Turturro did a great job in the Batman, but I
was like dang Mark Strong in theBatman would have been pretty
good.
I still love the gravitas andthe grandeur that obviously John
Turturro brings, but obviouslyit was scheduling you couldn't
get him back, which I still havea point about what I think
they're gonna do with with, withour, with our best pal, batman,
in the show, um, but I mean,obviously colin farrell is great
, oh my gosh, he's so incredible, he's so smooth as well, too,

(01:17:42):
in this role.
Like I know they have to puthim in all that makeup, but he's
so, he's so quick, yeah, um,which I think is something
that's super important for arole like that too.
Like you gotta get us sold, andthat's the thing about these
like, especially.
Like not from a marvel front,where they're already known from
it, from a dc front, like, andthen it's not the mainline dc
that we're getting or that we'resupposed to get, like this is

(01:18:03):
from a movie that obviously alot of people think is great.
And like let's spin off thischaracter that, like people
easily could have been like whyam I watching this?
Like who cares about a Penguinshow?
All right, we'll let thenarrative sing, and I mean what
they do is they give youcompelling characters out of the
great.
They make your main charactersomeone to weirdly root for.
They give him a Robin in thefirst episode, they do.

(01:18:26):
They do the exact Robinplotline that Jason Todd has.
They do.
What's the freaking theoriesthat people are saying that his
name's Victor?
I saw a better one, but one ofthem is that he's Victor Freeze.
No, the better one I saw isthat he's Victor Zsasz.
Now, that would be kind ofinteresting.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
I'm going off of Gotham, but Victor Zsasz and the
Penguin do have a relationshipin Gotham.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
I think that would be quite interesting if he did
develop into Vixor's ass.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
I think the I mean I guess the real, not the real
standout, because Colin Farrellis great, but Kristen Miloti, as
Sofia Falcone, has been just arevelation.
She's incredible in the firstepisode, like just she is
properly unhinged in, like injust a tremendous way.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Yeah, she she is like you said, she's properly
unhinged, she's having, she'shaving a ball, she's just.
She looks like she'sunderstanding.
Like you know, they look likethey did a lot of research
research into the comics as well, and kind of like but also made
it the Sopranos on top of thatin the best possible way.
They were like we know ourNorth Star shows that we're

(01:19:40):
trying to pull from and let'sjust have a spot of fun.
Like is that okay?

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
Like that we have a tinge of fun to go along with
this kind of gritty gothic storythat they're telling on top of
it kind of gritty gothic storythat they're telling on top of
it and to your batman point likethis like I think that the, the
kind of the, the main, at leastthis first episode, like the
main through line of the show isenticing enough to me that like
I don't even need batman inthis to have a good time.
Like you know what I mean.

(01:20:06):
Like you watch some of theseshows, like especially the
marvel shows, you're like I justkind of want that one big thing
to happen.
Wandavision's a perfect example.
This is nice, but when's theone big thing going to happen?
Right, when's Reed Richardsshowing up?
When's Mephisto going to showup?
Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
They name-dropped him .
In the third episode theyname-dropped Mephisto.
We didn't even talk about it.
We can't believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
It finally happened.
But this I'm enjoying, just theYou're right the Sopranos-ness
of it all.
Clancy Brown, I love ClancyBrown.
He's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Even though he's not.
Is it bothering you that he'snot Italian enough?
I mean, yeah, kind of A littlebit.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
He's just I don't know.
He's Salvatore Moroni In theshow.
In the show he's just he'sdoing what Denzel's gonna do in
Gladiator 2.
He's like I'm Clancy Brown,you're getting Clancy Brown,
you're not getting a character,you're just getting me, and
that's good enough.
I like Clancy Brown a lot in alot of things.
Yeah, he's a dick general inthe flash also yeah, that's

(01:21:19):
right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
That's right.
They really got clancy brown tobe in season one of the flash.
Yeah, dolph lundgren was inseason five of arrow.
That was different.
Arrow had juice.
Then dolph lundgren, that waswild, that was crazy.
What a pull that was.
I know you think dolph lundgrenwas like watching tv and like
he scrolled to arrow and he sawrussians in like season three

(01:21:41):
and he's like I'm back, I'm back.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
He's not even russian , he's swedish.
Yeah, that's the funniest it'shilarious.
Um, but yeah, I this show is.
We have not seen the secondepisode yet.
Um, but yeah, I mean, thesopranos comp was was well
placed and you know that's aconversation that they had as
well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Yes, as much as people might hate me saying that
, like shows, think about that.
They literally think aboutthese ideas of like, and movies
do the same thing of like.
Yeah, what's our?
The sopranos was good.
What's our thing, what's thething that we're trying to pull
from and pull inspiration from?
And the Sopranos obviously isthe idea.
That's the thing that they'regoing to think about and we
haven't had a good mob TV thingsince the Sopranos and that's

(01:22:25):
the thing, and it's funny thatthis Batman universe and the
Penguin keeps doing it you takethe name from the comic
character away.
In the comic modern age ofputting the fandom on top of it.
This is just a fun.
This is a good mob show.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
This is a good mob show.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
The Batman is an incredible you know film noir on
top of that, like, yeah, batmanjust so happens to be in that
and the Penguin just so happensto be in it, and exactly, I love
Oz's character in this too.
Yes, me too.
Um, I love kind of the the bitsthat like the themes that
they're touching on as well too.
Um, but, like you said, the thebest one of the shining spots
of this show not only is colinfarrell, but um, sophia falcone
is just wolf.
She is incredible.
Yeah, so I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Yeah, what a properly great villain to throw in this
show too yeah, just like oz is acrime boss, but sofia is a
proper psycho and I feel like ozis always like he thinks
everyone else is a psycho, likehe thinks batman's a psycho.
Yeah, he's like, I'm justtrying to get by, like I'm just.
I'm just doing my, I'm just aguy that grew up poor.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
Yeah, finally he's got a little money and I'm
surrounded by psychopaths.
He really, truthfully, is, Imean oh, the best thing this
show does spoilers, spoilers,ready, three, two, one best
thing that this show do doesmurder alberto falcone in the
first five minutes of the firstepisode.
Because, like, even in yourmind, you're like all right,

(01:23:49):
well, we're gonna have the son,you're gonna have the son,
alberto, alberto falcone.
He's gonna be at odds with ozand then sofia.
That's gonna be like a brothersister.
No, no, he murders him straightup.
And then what it does, too islike show like this universe
knows no bounds of.
Like this character's safe.
No, no, no, that doesn't worklike that.
Like you can be murdered at anypoint here.
Like this still has that levelof like undeniable realism to it

(01:24:11):
.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Yeah, so I'm super keen on it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
I can't believe they gave him the Jason Todd Robin
origin in the show.
It's the funniest thing thatthis show has ever done.
Yeah, that Dolly Parton 9 to 5needle drop also was incredibly
done.
Yep, because then I thoughtabout it.
I was like he is just a guyjust trying to do his job.
He's a mentor now he's just agood guy.

(01:24:35):
Yep, no, he's not Um that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
We're done here.
Yeah, that was fun, that wasfun.
Next week might not be as fun.
Hmm, it's again.
We can talk about the Last ofUs rollercoaster.
I feel like Joker is also onthis rollercoaster.
I feel like Joker is also onthis rollercoaster.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
I feel like you're not supposed to like the first
Joker.
You can't publicly like thefirst Joker movie.
You can like it.
I'll say this I love JoaquinPhoenix and I'll leave it at
that, so I don't get cancelled.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Yeah, so we're going to talk about Joker 2 next week.
It's finally here, and I'vegrown the opposite of the Agatha
thing.
I got the thing.
I've grown less and lessoptimistic the more I've, the
more I've heard and seen of thismovie, cause I'm just like did
you guys, did you guys lose theplot?
Like did you guys not expect tomake a sequel?

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
And then you were just like oh no, we have to make
a sequel and unfortunately thissequel still has potential and
I think you know getting likegetting Lady Gaga, as as as
Harley Quinn, it still does.
You know who should have playedHarley Quinn if they wanted to
do a normal version of thismovie, non-musical?
You get Rooney Mara, becausethat's already his wife and she

(01:25:43):
probably properly could probablyplay an incredible Harley Quinn
on top of that too.
Yeah, I don't know I just themore time has went on, I've been
like I'm getting a, I'm nervous.
I did love her rendition ofthat's Life that she sang in the
one trailer.
I was like wait, this is whyI'm still intrigued.
That's still Lady Gaga.

(01:26:03):
It's not a musical, though.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Says Todd Phillips Says the guy who made the movie
A musical, I don't know, man, Ijust feel like they woke up one
day and they were like make me aJoker sequel, todd Phillips.
And he's like, oh no, I didn'texpect to do this.
It's kind of like the Ghost ofTsushima thing.
You could have left Arthur inthat mental asylum and never
seen him again, and I feel likethat would have been fine, yeah,
and you just leave it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
I mean, the guy won an Oscar for the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
You, just as one of those higher cinema movies, put
it in the shelf and that's it.
Now you're doing this.
At the very least, it'll giveus something to talk about,
which is always good.
Maybe it'll be one of thoseepisodes.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Don't put this in the Morbius category.
It might end up there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
I'm not ruling it out , but yeah, we're going to talk
about Joker next week.
Don't owe it.
I don't know, we'll see um, butthat's it.
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Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
There it is.
He brought that joke back.
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Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Next week, like I said, we are going to talk about
Joker 2.
I am not going to Fully adieu,say the full name.
I'm not.
I'm not doing it.
We speak American, we speakAmerican.
We speak American here.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
I'm going to make it a point to only call it
Jokerfolia do anytime I say thename, even if I'm just talking
about him narratively.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Joker 2, joker Joker's back.
You're John Jokerfolia do.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
John the Joker You're John Jack Nicholson's Joker.
Jack the Joker You're JackNichol Joker.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
Joker 2, joker Joking , joking around, still joking.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
To Joe To S, to Er, to Er.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
He's still joking around.
He's still joking around.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Favorite Joker.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
I'm always going to be partial to the Mark Hamill
Joker.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
Just say Heath Ledger .
Am I allowed to say Jerome fromGotham Because of Cameron
Moynihan's stand?
What I would have given to givehim a full-fledged, objectively
it's Heath Ledger, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
We're just not, we can't bat around it.
If we're taking him out of it,mark Hamill, for me, is always
he's the Joker, in the same waythat Kevin Conroy is going to be
Batman for me.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Yeah, it's tough.
It's tough not to agree, jaredLeto.
No, we gotta go, man.
I can't wait for Jeffrey Wrightto break that line out in the
Last of Us, part II Open youreyes.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
Open your eyes.
He's not going to say that hemight Do me a favor and shut
your mouth Is Jeffrey Wright thegreatest ever.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
I love Jeffrey Wright .

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
No habla espanol, fellas.
That's when I knew thatuniverse had something and they
say that movie's not funny.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
He said it's because you took the Hippocratic Oath.
Hippocratic Oath, HippocraticOath.
Okay, I was like, wait a minute, this movie's incredible,
World's Greatest Detectives.
Best part of that movie is whenhe opens the door and he's just
like get out of here, bats.
He didn't say bats, but itwould have been funnier if he
said bats.
He's like get out of here,freak, Before that suit gets all
full of blood.
He's like mine are yours.

(01:29:30):
I was like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Yeah, this is good yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
I was like, yeah, this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
From me from the.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
You gotta be real careful man, do I?
Yeah, don't give me Isaac.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
I wasn't gonna give you Isaac.
From the Ghost of Yota, theGhost of Yota of the podcast.
From the Mickey 17 of thepodcast yes, which Mickey am I?

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Mickey Mantle, no.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
I wanted Mickey Rourke, the Mickey, the Mickey
Mantle, of the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Yes, put shit in Yankee Legend.
What are you looking forward to, man huh, what are you looking
forward to?

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
I don't know this Joker, this Joker movie not the
Titans nah, I thought we'll loveus through an interception.
Pete Rose died, by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Pete Rose passed away .
Dikembe Mutombo passed away.
Bad day for sports.
Bad day for sports, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Will Love Us.
Threw another interception, yep, and he's out of the game Is he
?

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Yeah, thank God, my goat's in the game.
Former Steelers legend's in thebench.
I think you got both both atthe same time.
You're hurt, well, I'm not.
You're hurt well.
Okay, get into the blue tent.
You think that's what denzelsaid to will smith during the
oscar slot.
You're hurt, well, you're hurt.

(01:30:47):
Well, get in the blue tent.
Well, um, I pulled wilson aside.
I said the devil's gonna comefor you.
Whatever, dead self.
The coolest human being onplanet earth you will be my
instrument, paul bell's.

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
Just I don't want to slap chris rock all right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
I can't wait for the gladiator.
That movie has the potential toeither be the craziest.
I didn't even talk aboutmealopolis in my cinema corner.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
You talked about Megalopolis last week.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
Oh, I did it's unhinged.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
I can't wait.
I can't wait for Joker 2.
Still joking.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
What a move, what a time.
Joker 3 still joking Stilljoking Joker 3.
Joker 3, still joking Joker.
4.
These jokes don't writethemselves.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
These jokes don't write themselves Joker 5 jokes
on you.
Joker 5 home for the ha-haholidays Come on man, they're
doing a holiday special.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
We got a holiday special before Schneider got a
second Justice League movie.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Home for the ha-ha holidays.
I'm leaving it at that.
Yeah, we'll see you next weekfor joker six loves a joke
life's a joke, and then you diethe biggie special.
Oh, come on man.
All right, we, we gotta go manwe're going we're going until

(01:32:10):
then, goodbye peace.

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