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What if the secret to great parenting wasn't found in perfect discipline strategies or elaborate educational plans, but in simply showing up? Tyler White, BDR with Akkodis and host of the Timeout with Leaders podcast, brings a refreshingly authentic perspective to fatherhood that will make you rethink your approach to family leadership.

Growing up as the son of a high school football coach, Tyler learned early that commitments weren't optional—they were sacred. "The word commitment was like the real C-word in my family," he shares with a laugh. This foundation shaped him profoundly, but it's his two-and-a-half-year-old daughter Ella who's teaching him the most valuable lessons now. Watching her play with zero expectations has awakened his inner child and reminded him that sometimes the best leadership happens when we let go of control.

The conversation takes powerful turns as Tyler recounts meeting his wife in sixth-grade church group, losing touch for twenty years, and then reconnecting through Facebook to build a beautiful family together. He vulnerably shares his growth areas as a dad, particularly in fully appreciating the challenges his wife faces as a stay-at-home mom. "Really understanding how much effort and energy that takes out of somebody and always remembering that," he reflects, is his ongoing work.

Perhaps most compelling is Tyler's story about learning service from a colleague who drove twenty hours to help someone move without seeking recognition. "When you tell people about your serving, the grace is gone," the colleague explained—a principle that transformed Tyler's approach to both business and fatherhood. His three guiding principles—show up consistently, serve without expectations, and don't take yourself too seriously—offer a powerful framework for any dad looking to strengthen their family leadership.

Whether you're a new father finding your footing or a seasoned dad seeking renewed purpose, this conversation will inspire you to embrace the joy of fatherhood without the pressure of perfection. Subscribe now to hear more authentic conversations with dads who are working to become better quarterbacks of their homes.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, I'm Riley and I'm Ryder, and this is my dad show.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey everybody, it's Casey Jaycox with the
quarterback dad cast.
Welcome to season six, and Icould not be more excited to
have you join me for anotheryear of fantastic episodes and
conversations really unscriptedand raw and authentic
conversations with dads.
If you're new to this podcast,really it's simple.
It's a podcast where weinterview dads, we learn about
how they were raised, we learnabout the life lessons that were

(00:34):
important to them, we learnabout the values that are
important to them and really welearn about how we can work hard
to become a better quarterbackor leader of our home.
So let's sit back, relax andlisten to today's episode on the
Quarterback Dadcast.
Well, hey everybody, this isCasey Jaycox with the
Quarterback Dadcast.
We're continuing on season six.
Over 300 episodes.
That means that we have talkedto a lot of dads.

(00:55):
Everybody, I want to say thankyou so much for your continued
support and continued just waysyou engage with us on our social
channels.
It means the world to me and itmeans that we're impacting dads
at home to become, and helpthem become, better leaders at
our home.
So, with that said, our nextguest.
His name is Tyler White.
I got introduced to him by thefantastic Anne-Marie Anne-Marie,

(01:18):
thank you for the introduction.
He is in the wide world of ITservices, staffing, consulting a
company called a CODIS Uh, healso is the host of the timeout
with leaders podcast.
But more importantly, tyler's adad and we're going to learn
how he's working hard to becomethat ultimate quarterback leader
of his household without,before we open the smoke machine

(01:39):
, let him in.
He also is an ArkansasRazorback, so he might little do
some pig growls and some somehonking, and I'm sure what else
he's going to do.
But without that said, tyler,welcome to the Quarterback
Dadcast.
Casey thanks for having me, man.
I'm ready to get hog wild onthis thing.
Brother, I know you guys can'tsee us right now, everybody but
he is literally dressed like apig right now you wouldn't

(02:03):
believe it.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's amazing.
I would, if I could man.
Anytime I go into a home, goodsCasey, if I see a fluorescent
pig or a pig lamp, it's probablycoming out with me.
Man, let's go, let's go.
Yeah, that's just one thing themarket all you got to do is
throw pigs and home goods andeven Kroger.
We'll buy them, dude, we'll buythem.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Love it All right.
I always start out each episodewith gratitude, so tell me,
what are you most grateful foras a dad today?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Oh, dude, like, besides, like the health of my
baby, it's, it's learning, it'sbringing out that inner child in
me again, which is super, superimportant, I think, for for me,
me just to not take life soserious, like when I just see my

(02:53):
two and a half year old make upsome play out of nowhere and
not zero expectations, casey,like she has zero, like I'm not
being graded, I'm just being meand just the joy that I see has
made me like that.
And I was sort of like thatbefore, but it was a good
reminder for me to just bringout that inner child and just

(03:14):
live life with no expectations,with no angles on people show up
, see what kind of mess I canget into, just like her, and if
it works out, it works out.
If it doesn't, onto the, ontothe next game.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, you hit.
You hit a couple of my hotbuttons there, brother.
The word expectation issomething I'm very, very
passionate about.
Um, well, maybe we can go intothat in a second here and um,
and, and how can I how youdescribe that?
You made me realize it's like'stime, our most precious asset,
and too often many of us arejust going through emotions of
life, not even thinking aboutstuff, meeting the meeting.

(03:49):
Maybe we're late to some, maybewe're really just some, but we
just we let the day impact usinstead of us impacting the day.
And uh, then all of a sudden,10 years go by.
You're like god, why am I sostressed out, you know so.
Um, well, my gratitude is uh, Ijust got back from spending time
on the East coast with myfamily and my wife, still back

(04:11):
on the East coast.
We're recording this in inearly August, everybody that's
up.
So we'll come out, uh, in amonth or so.
But, uh, we flew home lateSunday night.
So I got me and my my going tobe sophomore in college son and
my senior to be in high schooldaughter, and so we got to have
some nice family time this week.
So I'm grateful for that andgrateful my wife gets to spend
time, um, get some mommy time onthe East coast and also just

(04:34):
spend time with some of hergirlfriends that she doesn't get
to see.
Uh, you know, see, see, for youknow, just year Cause we spend
time in a small island calledCuddy hunk Island, which is off
the coast of Boston and a reallycool spot.
So, okay, you said expectations.
Um, I think, as dads, um,that's something that creates a

(04:56):
lot of stress because we haveexpectations of how the day is
supposed to go, guilty, ascharged, and I was younger dad
and you, you wanted to beperfect and you wanted to go
exactly.
And then, all of a sudden, theoperation shit show starts, you
know, like, and then it justeither impacts you and you freak
out and you got like, you knowthat will fare we got to keep
our composure, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
But um, talk to me a little bit about that word for
you uh, I mean, it used tocreate stress for me, casey,
like I grew up in a household,like my dad, was like a Texas
high school football coach andcoached up in Arkansas, and so
much expectations was on winningbut not just winning dude.
It was like we're notcomfortable unless we're up by

(05:38):
like 55.
So I really was like that inevery aspect of my life and I
learned that even if when youwin, it's not like it's a little
underwhelming in business oreven being a dad, like the
journey, like you always hearthe journey is where it's at,

(05:58):
and I could not agree more, guys.
I know it's very cliche to say,but every time I win something
now like I'm 40, it doesn't likeit's, there's always something
else to go to.
So, like taking out theexpectation for me and like I'll
never forget Casey, like Ialways ask my dad's players like
like why, why do you like mydad so much?

(06:20):
Cause he was kind of scary athome, like he wouldn't do
violent or anything, but he waslike let's get whoopsie mad,
like power, all right, 44 wham,you know, is how we live our
life and I'll never forget everykid was like dude, your dad
makes this stuff fun and I waslike my dad does.
So that's really what I focuson, even before expectations.
And I think if I focus on howdo I wake up, figure out some

(06:45):
sort of just wild fun mess I canget into, whether it's with my
family, my clients, beforebusiness, right, and if I lead
with fun, it really takes thatexpectation meter way down.
And I think it helps others outtoo, because when you're with
me or meet me, there's no agenda, dude, it's like what, what do

(07:07):
you into and what are you like amaster of and what do you love
to do?
And can I try to do that withyou and even if I stink at it.
I even like when I stink atstuff, you know there's no like
like basketball.
The basketball court is mysanctuary.
That's where I played aau witheverybody like almost in college
, but but for some reason Istill take that semi seriously.

(07:29):
But, dude, you get me on like ajujitsu mat or on a golf course
or like on a gun range shootingclay stuff.
That I'm not good at it.
I I don't like mean to make ajoke of it, but it's almost like
a fun joke to me.
I'm like let's just see howmuch I can mess this up with no
expectations.
It's same like being a dad likeme thinking I could control my

(07:49):
two and a half year old'sschedule.
This is the first time I've hadto like cancel on people in my
life.
Like the word commitment waslike the real C word in my
family.
It was like you keep and that'shard to do, dude, keeping your
commitments.
And at first I felt so bad, dude, I was like cancel on people
left or right Cause Ella was nothaving it, you know.

(08:12):
But what was cool is like we'reinto like a group man.
People get it, get the get thatthe last minute cancellations
happens if they're a dad too.
So I feel like I'm in a part ofthis, this cool tribe, and it's
okay not to show up all thetime, even though I was like
just spoon fed showing up allthe time as a kid until I was
like 38 years old.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, well, I think it's.
That's the power of beingvulnerable and just being real
and honest with people likelisten, hey, I'm sorry I got my
my daughter's sick, she'sthrowing up.
I got to go, and if that clientwants to judge you and think
not the right client for you,let them go.
No, dude, no, let them go.
Okay, before I get going toofar, I want to go inside the
white huddle, so bring me inside.

(08:57):
You're playing quarterback.
I'm sure your wife's thegeneral manager, but talk about
each member of the squad andmaybe tell us then where you and
your wife met.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Man.
So I think the wife isdefinitely the G in here and I'm
the quarterback, you know,getting sacked all the time but
just not showing it.
You know she's a stay at homemom.
She's amazing man Just with ababy all day, day, every day.
At two and a half years old shegets to do that and I'm glad

(09:28):
she gets to do that.
It's pretty cool.
It's a lot different than wewere growing up, I think, kc um
with people, just how they theytreat their kids even um.
But me and my wife and ellaella's the the co-captain here
ella Ella Bliss White's her name, two and a half leading the
charge.
But my wife and I met in sixthgrade in Arkansas at a Wednesday

(09:53):
night church group.
And I just went there to hoopdude.
I was like the sweaty kidsinging songs after basketball
time.
I just sweat and I'll neverforget me and her.
In sixth grade you like hidunder this like picnic table by
the gym and just laugh.
You don't even know why,because you love to see people
like what bias and you justlaugh, um, best for it.

(10:17):
In eighth grade she moved toPensacola, florida, and then I
got in trouble withlong-distance phone calls from
my dad.
He came in.
He was like what is this?
I was like I'm in love.
And so of course we kind ofdrifted away in eighth grade,
being in Arkansas and in Florida, and 20 years later met back up

(10:41):
, got married and had a babydude.
And here we go.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Nice.
How did you guys reconnect?

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Just Facebook.
I said Jeannie, what are youdoing?
And she said what are you doing?
And I said I'm going out tomeet a buddy in Arizona this
weekend.
And then she came along and Iflew back to upstate New York at
the time and then she flew back, she was down in Texas and she
came up there and she was thesame genie.
I always remembered, dude, andI guess I was the same Tyler,

(11:12):
wow that's cool.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Well, I thought you were going to say you started
dating in eighth grade, becausethat's when me and my wife
started dating.
Eighth grade.
Yeah, dude, I'm almost 50.
And so that's like do the math.
That's like shoot, almost 38years, 37 years been together.
There's something about that.

(11:34):
I think, man, when I told mydad I was in love, dude, I
freaking meant it.
Man, dad, you know how you lovePower, right, 34 Blast.
I love my girl the same, oh boy.
Okay, let's talk about mom anddad.
Talk about what mom and dad did.
You said a football coach, butlet's go into a little bit more
depth and talk about what waslife like growing up for for
Todd, now that you're a dad?

Speaker 1 (11:56):
What was life like growing up?
It was.
It was awesome, man.
I thought we had everything.
You know my dad was a footballcoach back in the eighties and
nins.
You know probably dropped it,you know, pulling down like 37 a
year back in the day.
And my mom was like a libraryaid at the school, but I was.
I had every opportunity I couldimagine, whether it was
football, basketball, baseball.

(12:16):
My parents wanted me to be inorchestra, which I couldn't
stand at the time.
I was in a class with peoplethat played piano, like reading
notes was Greek, you know, andthen I got pretty good at it
over time.
But growing up was fun.
It was just.
I remember just playing sportsall the time, pretty competitive

(12:36):
atmosphere, but nothing overthe top.
Really Like the keeping yourcommitments, showing up even
when you don't want to, was likeseated in my brain Casey, and
and and it's still to this dayit, it yields it, it, it serves
me well, man.
Like, like people always saydude, tyler, you make things fun

(12:58):
and you show up, dude.
I'm like yeah where I'm from,like, like, so that was what it
was, man, um, you know, get yourgrades, behave, treat people
with respect was the big thing.
Um, and and, just like you know.
And then he was my freakingvice principal dude in like
ninth grade and he was likechewing ass all the time, like

(13:20):
to my friends.
So that was a little weird.
So very, very uh, don like tomy friends.
So that was a little weird.
So very, very uh, don't get introuble.
Type of um, grow upbringing um,but not not in the the, the bad
way.
Really, like in line, do theright thing, show up dude our
mom and dad still with us, ohyeah yeah, they're up in

(13:42):
arkansas, northwest arkansas,retired, and they're like my
dad's like dad's metal detecting.
He's always been quirky sellingstuff on eBay.
He got kicked off eBay seventimes when I was in junior high
because he was having histeachers bid on his John Deere
salt and pepper shakers.
Dude, he's a character man.
Yeah, that's what they're up tonow.

(14:05):
Is he still involved withfootball at all?
No, no, he's not.
He gave that torch up quite awhile ago, I think he said when
he couldn't match the kids'energy anymore.
It was kind of time.
Yeah, he knew all the X's andO's, him and the Gus Malzahns.
I can't remember the Browns oldcoach.

(14:27):
They're just good old Arkansasboys.
Very innovative with football,the no huddle stuff and very
early adopters.
I think Gus Malzahn was theadopter or the founder of that
pretty much, and my dad was just.
They were just buddies, justalways innovating things.
But yeah, he stepped away whenhe got a little older.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Man, Now you mentioned AAU, but did you play
football as well?

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, I played up until my junior year.
Okay, what position I wasoutside linebacker and tight end
and fullback.
I always call myself the lastera of the helmet-to-helmet era
and my dad coached our Pee Weeteam team.
I remember, and the coolestthing coach white could have
told you, casey, was that youdeserve a face mask like the

(15:10):
bigot.
The first big hit in practiceit was like the whistle blew.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
You looked casey, you deserve a face mask because you
used your head to hit somebody.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
So that was the era we grew up in man and I, and I
would never take it back yeah,this is uncle rico moment coming
.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
So I played quarterback in college back in
95.
Well, my playing playing I waslike started at 96, 97, 98, but
like that was back whenquarterbacks used to get blasted
and I mean I would release theball and if I didn't like step
into a throw, like legit stepinto the throw, I'd get like
ridiculed in film the next daylike why you, why are you, why

(15:48):
are you being a puss?
Or I'm like because I don'twant to die but I had to learn
to just to freaking take it.
And then, uh, you know I, butthere you release the ball, then
1001, 1002, then you still gethit and fricking like rowdy,
rowdy, piper DDT, you know just,and my, you know, like I said,
almost 50, like my back's stilla mess, but it's totally

(16:11):
different game now.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh, dude.
And just like the weight room,even like the four back in the
eighties and nineties, it wasjust like power cleaning.
It was like just get the weightup.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
You don't care about your form.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Stretch on your own time is what I got, a lot too.
You know, there's like nostretching, it was just like
just throwing it up and uh, it'sfunny how it's evolved.
You know there's actually somefinesse that that's an advantage
in football, rather than it'sjust a stupid oklahoma drill and
bash each other and yeah,freaking rate, it's like, yeah,
it's amazing that more peopledidn't freaking die in the

(16:48):
football field for how insane itwas.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
But again, it shaped us.
I don't, I don't.
No, were you a hooper more?

Speaker 1 (16:54):
than anything.
Yeah, yeah, that was, that wasmy sanctuary man.
I I was making like 300 to 500threes a day from like eighth
grade to 12th grade.
Just loved it and it calmed mymind.
Calmed my mind and I didn'teven know it.
You know, you hear about allthis stuff that nowadays if you
shoot at something, that's allyou think about.
Like all the outside noise goesaway, and that must have been

(17:15):
what drew it to me like and it's, it's more fun when you get
better at it too, like when theball's actually going in a lot.
That that's.
That's a lot easier to show upthe next day or the next hour.
But yeah, I just had my thekeys to my dad's gym and put on
some outcasts or jay-z or biggieback in the day and maybe a
little three, six mafia in ninthgrade and you know a little

(17:36):
southern rap and just that wasthat.
And I love the creativity ofbasketball too was the fun part,
like how you can move the courtwith your eyes and just
learning stuff from people thatwent to the league even and
asking them how the hell are youdoing that?
And getting tips like that.
And then coming back home afterAAU summer and people are like
where the hell have you been?
You're like playing with thebest of the best in the state

(17:59):
man for a reason.
So, yeah, that's definitely mysoft spot.
Were you a point guard?
Yeah, now I look like a righttackle dude.
I'm about 6, 2, 245, which andI'm a little bald, so it like
throws the kids off nowadays.
So, yeah, I was a point guardmy whole life and now I look
like I can pull.
You know, pull and hit thepancake.

(18:19):
A few cornerbacks love my.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
my daughter just finished her last year ever of
AAU.
We that's where we weretraveling.
So we were in Vegas twice,portland, sacramento we went to
and just went to Chicago.
But she's a.
She's a scrappy little pointguard shooting guard, loves
defense, but she can shoot therock too.
It's fun to watch, dude,awesome man.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah it it's.
You can learn a lot out there.
I think just like motivatingfor other people it was the
biggest thing for me because iteither goes like super south or
super good sometimes in certainsituations with different
cultures.
I learned from a young age itwas like I better get these
dudes rallying or some of themmight give up dude like and I'm
not even joking, so just justlearning how to, and I think

(19:06):
that translate a lot to being adad and and being in business.
I like like kind of welcomingchallenges is really fun, like
cause I know some people thatdon't or don't want to do that
they look for a way around itand it just kind of draws the
process out of pain man, or justjust annoying and man, I think
my like my goal right now isjust to sleep well at night.

(19:28):
You, know, and if I give itevery, and some people think
that's a stupid goal, but haveyou ever not slept well at night
for a season of your life, likeit's.
It's not too fun, casey, no so,but but the dude.
But going back to the dad, likethe balance is being that dude
wherever in the office, on thecourt, on the jujitsu mat,
whatever it is, and then beingthat dude at home.

(19:50):
Man is where the real landmineslay.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Well, as a matter of you know, I joke that.
You know the whole theme ofthis podcast when I started six
years ago was, like you know,quarterbacks on the lead on the
field.
So, as a dad, but I think aboutbeing a point guard the leader
in the field.
So, as a dad, but I think aboutbeing a point guard.
What I've learned aboutwatching other point guards,
even my daughter, is like youcan impact the game so much and
it won't ever show up in thestat book big time.
Like, whether it's a, you get atip, someone else gets the

(20:15):
steal, you die for loose ball,you, you.
You tie one up, you get anextra rebound, you box out
little things.
Same thing goes.
And, as a dad, maybe we comehome after a stressful day.
How many dads are looking tomaybe unload the dishwasher if
it needs to be done?
But you come in after astressful adult.
Do you ever say, hey, honey,how was your day?
Tell me, is there anything elseI need to help her through?
Okay, like, go out of your wayto serve her or serve the family

(20:38):
before you're so god, give me abeer, bitch, I need to take a.
You know, you know, like that's.
It's not the 1920s dads.
It's like time to step up andand be a teammate and and do the
little things.
Maybe we aren't always seeing,but when we can check our ego,
we can embrace the curiosity ofbuilding a better relationship,
embrace the humility of like hey, we're not perfect, and be

(21:01):
vulnerable to say hey, maybewhen you do need help, ask for
help.
So those are the other thingsthat are like really passionate
for me, tyler, that as I'vegrown now we get almost a half
century year old, which feelsweird to say.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
But yeah, insane, man , like coming home and serving
first, dude, is where it's at,and and I just, I, just I kind
of grew up.
You know I've been in a fewgroups in my life where it's all
about serving and the more youknow what I found out is like,
the more I started serving, themore I was understanding myself,
which is totally backwards ifyou would have told me that 15

(21:36):
years ago.
And I met some pretty keypeople in my life that just
lived that way.
But, man, yeah, I always say ashort prayer, like in the
driveway, you know, as soon as Iget home.
Just, you know, sure, I maybe,you know, ran the scoreboard up
out here today, but it's time torun the scoreboard up, you know
, in the household where itmatters.
You know in the household whereit matters because, dude, if

(21:59):
you, if I don't do that casey,if I go a little sideways, like
it impacts, like my, my gain inbusiness and everything else, I
just my gut does not feel rightif everything's not aligned.
You know at the house andeverybody feels perfect you know
there's been a few times I'veran out of the house without
giving the correct love and man,how much that impacted my day.

(22:20):
But that also gives me empathyfor other people, because
sometimes, when I'm aligned andI'm on life, sometimes I'm like
why aren't the people around mehave the same energy?
Well, hell, casey, theyprobably may have messed up at
home before they left the danghouse, just like I've done
before.
You know why didn't?
that gas station attendant tellme to have a good day.

(22:41):
When I told her to have a goodday, something may happen to her
.
Like it's just, it all connectsman and and it is, it's almost
nice when you're.
My day goes sideways every nowand then, just for that reminder
that other people's day mightnot be so dang cheery.
You know, cherry on top is mineright now.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Well, I think that goes back to being curious.
We either can re, you know,listen to respond, or react, or
listen to get curious and maybegive some benefit out, like, hey
, this person just told me to goF myself, but I didn't deserve
that.
But maybe something else isgoing on, like, maybe you say,
hey, man is everything okay, butI didn't deserve that.
But maybe something else isgoing on, like maybe you say,
hey, man is everything okay, oryeah.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Once you like.
Really get that in your chest,man.
Life is okay, dude, and it'salmost to the.
I know when it's like life isrocking and rolling being a dad,
being in business, being onwhatever sport I'm in when I
Thoroughly I wish that this lifewould never end.
I have that feeling in my chest, walking down the hall, going I

(23:44):
wish this will never end.
And not every day is like that.
I kid you not, man.
I think I have the recipesometimes for it.
And then some days I'm like letme just get through this damn
day.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
I have a little journal.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
What happened on July 28th, when I was thinking I
don't want this life to ever,ever end because there's so much
fruit to bear, man, there's somuch fun to get into.
I mean, when people tell methey're bored, I'm like man, you
got to try to just get intosome things Because when I'm in
that zone dude, dude.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
I don't want it to end you mentioned um some key
people in your life that had animpact on you.
Maybe, if can you, would you becomfortable sharing a story of
why that impact you as a person,maybe, and as a dad oh,
absolutely, man.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Um, a few of them were like in recovery that I
worked with from like alcoholismand I'll never forget was one
dude named bud.
One day at work when I was inArkansas, all I asked him was
like what are you doing tomorrow, man?
He was like going to helpsomeone move.
I was like, all right, I'm likefrom Bentonville to
Fayetteville.
And he's like no man, I'mhelping to move to Chicago.

(24:52):
I was like it's like a 10 hourdrive, right.
And I was like okay, you'regoing to drive 20 hour round
trip.
And he's like yeah, man, and Iwas like, and at that point in
my life I was like 22 orsomething.
I was like what are you gettingfor it?
He's like nothing, man.
But he was like so about it,dude.
I'll never forget he walked inthe day and a half later to the

(25:15):
office and didn't even tellanybody and I was like watch it,
I didn't say anything to anyone.
Walks into the office hey, bud,how you doing?
I'm doing good guys.
And just didn't even.
So he like seeing that servicethat he did and like he like
stopped like blooming fillers, Ican't remember where in
Illinois, on the way back totake a nap in his car or
something and just kept drivingand made it to work the

(25:36):
following two days later anddidn't even tell anyone.
Man, and that really struck me.
I was like dude, there's a guywho just helps someone move
which no one likes to move 20hours away, walking the office
and not even telling anyone.
So I asked him and he saidsomething about Tyler, when you
tell people about you're serving, you're serving up others.

(25:58):
He said something like on thelines like this it's not
spiritual anymore, the grace isgone, dude.
And I was like I'll neverforget that, I'll never forget
it.
The spirit's gone.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
And when you start bragging and telling folks what
you did, my quarterback coach incollege told me, casey, if you
ever have to tell me how goodyou are, you're not that good
when you're great, I'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Boom.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
I mean, that impacted me as a dad, impacted me as a.
You know, I spent 20 years inthe staffing industry,
consulting industry and, uh,fortunate to be around, some
great teammates, great.
But like that's, that's whatdrove me is when I would win an
award.
You know, I didn't want to gotell you, but I wanted them to
tell me.

(26:43):
It made me think of myquarterback coach.
It made me think about now.
It was about thanking mylineman, like the back office
people, the recruiting team, theAP, the janitor, the front desk
, for anybody.
I could think about gettingtheir name when I had a chance
to speak, because it was aboutthem and I wasn't doing it for
like, oh, I was doing it becausethat's, that's my chance to
thank them, cause they're notgetting thanked, they're doing

(27:04):
fricking, they're working justas hard.
I'm just playing quarterbackinside of the company, same
thing as dad.
So I'd love that.
I'd love that you shared thatstory no-transcript.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
He helped our sales and account teams really those
people on the front lines ofbuilding and developing client
relationships in so many ways.
Here are a few.
He helped us unlock the powerof curiosity.
For me it was a game changer.
I was personally learning allabout TED-based that's, tell,
explain, describe, questioningand that really resonated with

(28:00):
me.
We also learned about unlockingthe power of humility and
unlocking the power ofvulnerability.
Casey taught us to be a teamplayer, to embrace change, to
stay positive.
He is one of the most positivepeople I know.
He believes that optimism,resilience and a sense of humor
can go a long way in helpingpeople achieve their goals and

(28:23):
overcome obstacles.
And I agree Casey's book Win theRelationship, not the Deal.
It is a must read.
Listen.
Whether you're looking forcoaching and training or a
powerful speaker or keynote,casey is one of the people I
recommend when talking tocompanies.
The end result for us at leastas one of Casey's clients our

(28:46):
own clients would literallycommend our approach over all
other companies, from the way wewere prepared in advance of a
call to how we drove meetings tohow we follow up.
It sounds really basic, I know,but let me tell you it is a
standout approach that led tostronger relationships.
I encourage you to learn moreby going to CaseyJCoxcom.

(29:08):
You have nothing to lose byhaving a conversation and a lot
to gain.
Now let's get back to Casey'spodcast, the quarterback dad
cast.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
How about?
How about a story of um?
We'll actually help with this.
Tell me the values that weremost important to you and your
family growing up, that youbelieve you'll then teach Ella
Um.
Tell me what comes to mind andthen maybe, if you can, share a
story of how you learned thosemind and then maybe if you can

(29:39):
share a story of how you learnedthose dude it's.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I mean, it's pretty simple to me.
I like, like they'll the termthat the saying like do what you
say you're gonna do goes.
So I mean, and we've heard it amillion times and whatever.
Leave the shit books we've readand just maybe uneven
commercials, but like that.
That, because I ask peoplefeedback on me, a lot like why

(30:01):
did you?
Why am I in like the lexuslounge right now at toyota
headquarters like why did youpick me, dude?
And it's like dude, you showedup, you did what you said you
were gonna do.
You know, um, so that I I grewup with that being like number
one, like the commitment thingwas number one and building I

(30:23):
always heard build character andI didn't even know what that
meant.
I don't even I know what itmeans now.
I think it's still a littlegray right, or to me, um, but
but it's in the actions and notthe words.
You know, it's almost like, andthe say less, not more, and
what strikes me is like watchinglike an old Western movie and

(30:43):
like the badass cowboy likedoesn't say anything for like 45
minutes.
Casey, like, just so, I think.
Talking, talking less,listening, not oversharing, to
like in certain situations andbreathe, and what I learned is

(31:05):
that brings more curiosity toyou from other people, and so
just blabbing your mouth all thetime, but, yeah, doing what you
say you're going to do.
I mean, I remember going to theplays in third grade.
I was Harry Haddo in some DrSeuss play and I did not want to
do it.

(31:25):
And I did it though, and thenthe feeling afterwards was fun.
I was like I was like in thirdgrade.
I was like, okay, I get it.
I don't get it yet because I'min third grade, but I'm glad I
did something I didn't want todo because I committed to it.
My parents paid for it, which Ididn't even have a clue what
that meant at the time.
But showing up, man.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, it's, it's.
It's easy to do what we alwayswant to do.
But you know, I like toexercise still and I always tell
my kids or anybody I talk toI'm like find me a day you
worked out and like, god dang, Iwish I didn't do that.
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's not, itnever happens no.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
The effect it has for the rest of your day is amazing
.
Like if I hit the gym in themorning, there's probably a
great chance I'm not eating likea double bacon cheeseburger at
lunch or something and fries andlike a Coca-Cola there's
probably a 0% chance.
So it just like yields, likemore opportunity to be healthier
and it's just fun to like havethat energy to even do the

(32:27):
dishes or just energy alone.
It stinks when you overeat andit's like, oh, I gotta go play
with my two-year-old.
Like mentality or that nastyfeeling that I get sometimes.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yeah, a lot of it's mindset.
You don't have to go play, youget to go play.
You don't have to go make phonecalls, I get to make phone
calls.
I don't have to go to anetworking event, I get to go to
a networking event.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
So it's all your perspective, that's funny you
mentioned that dude, I, I had abuddy in that I've known since
like 10th, 10th grade, and I wasworking at like a steakhouse in
um in fayetteville, arkansas,in college and he, he said I
don't remember telling him this,but he said one day when I was
like I couldn't go out orsomething, his name's chase or
he's like hey, why, what are youdoing?

(33:10):
You have to, you have to go towork.
I said, or I get to go to work,this is so.
I'm on the same page and thatmindset is awesome.
Because do you remember when youhad like a blank calendar, dude
, when you first started out andlike I remember having one and
I remember like 10 years ago, Iprayed to God.
I was like God, I just want abusy, like I just want like

(33:31):
meetings on my calendar.
Dude, because, like my companywas like making me like cold
call, it just wasn't it, dude,because my company was making me
cold call, it just wasn't it,dude, it was not filling up my
calendar like it is now, butbeing able to work, to meet new

(33:52):
people it's fun, man.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
You don't have to do it, you get to do it.
Man, I'm on board, casey.
What so, of those values thatyou talked about, that are you
know, say, the commitment,feedback and others is there.
Can you think about a timegrowing up that's like man?
That's.
This is when I learned it.
Well, you mentioned the play,but is there a different?
Like a story that brings you tolike that aha moment, or that
maybe a laughter, or even likemore of a difficult moment?

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I think putting in the work, the consistent work in
basketball showed me a lot.
It taught me a lot and I'llnever forget I was like in
practice in Little Rock Central,down in Little Rock, and I got
to the point where I was likeshooting like 70, 80% from three

(34:44):
and like the aha moment to mewas like it almost brought a
tear to my eye.
I was like cause all the work Iput in with no one in the gym,
like and sometimes you startdoubting yourself cause you get
the yips.
Sometimes you know like whenyou do something too much, even
mlb players can't throw abaseball from here to that wall
sometimes mentally and I justnever forget when just the

(35:04):
success of that, just likeowning a craft but but, but
tracing the, the damn dottedlines back on what it took, and
I translated that to this day,Like even to this day I have
that mentality of every day awalk on.
You know, sometimes I have todo some account management, but
it's like I'm not getting in.

(35:26):
I just tell myself I'm notgetting myself into some crazy
fun mess right now with a humanbeing I haven't met yet.
So I think just the justunderstanding, the aha moment to
me was what it takes, becauseif the shortcuts, even if you do
get a handout, it doesn't feelgood.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
No, Tyler, tell me, where do you think that drive
came from?
Probably my parents.
But how?
How did they teach you to youknow?
I know, like I threw hundredsof footballs a day by myself
backyard I built a tire swinglegit, built tires.
My first paycheck at a hardwarestore.
I paid for it.

(36:04):
Um, my son's, he's got drive.
He's at the golf.
He's just left to go to golfcourse to grind.
My daughter's a hooper.
She shoots her ass off.
But like I don't know wherethat sometimes comes from, is it
innate?
Is it taught?
Is it?
Is it ignited like?
Tell me, where do you think youyou got yours, man to have the

(36:25):
drive.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
I think I had to have some sort of light, to see some
sort of light of success insome way, like while I was
driving, you know, with thatdrive.
But I think it's like winningwith other people.
Man, celebrating with yourteammates is so fun, especially
like in junior high football,right, it's like you're in ninth

(36:46):
grade.
You're like just that sheerexcitement of all the two-a-days
you went through but the drivelike other people impact that
for me.
I think I'm not just like a lonedriver of my life anymore.
You know I do my best toconnect with the higher power,

(37:07):
to not take it so seriously, andI saw some quote the other day.
It was like try less orsomething.
But like I don't know the drive, I think I was born with it.
Like I remember like I was in,like I had pneumonia in third
grade at a basketball game and Iwas on the sideline and I was
like the loudest one in thestadium.
Still like they're that's likenot taught like rooting your

(37:33):
team on with like water in yourlungs.
It was like a third graderCause we wanted to beat these
dudes.
So bad Like that's it had to beI think it was.
It's got to be genetics, almostman, like my dad was the same
way.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I think it is.
But I also think it's like, um,you got to go through
discomfort or pain, you got togo through some failure.
You got to go through somefailure, you got to go through
some doubt.
I think either someone doubtsyou or you have a struggle, or
something's taken away from you,um, and I think.
Or or someone asks you theright question or someone
believes in you that maybe outmay, and usually it's outside

(38:07):
the home, I think, cause mom anddad, obviously you're the best,
you're going to go.
Everyone, every kid's going,they're going, johnny's going
pro, um, but uh, I'm alwayscurious people's perspective on
that.
But when you can and that's, Ithink, our job as a dad is, you
know, I've done a lot ofepisodes on you know, don't live

(38:27):
vicariously through your kids.
Just because you're a Hooperdoesn't mean your daughter's
gonna be Hooper, like what Ithink I'm.
Probably one of the things I'mmost proud about my fatherhood
journey is my kids are better.
The sports they chose.
They were better than I was.
My son's a better golfer.
He plays college golf.
My daughter's really goodthree-point shooter Really good,
I mean she's I sucked at that.
I just we played a game of likea pig tournament.
I got embarrassed and I andagain I think it's fun Like hey,

(38:58):
you know, I mean like decentshooter, but like it was
atrocious, like I got bouncedquickly.
My daughter won the damn thing.
So uh it's.
It's so easy to like thingsthat we love, but you know deep
down, if Ellis chooses who,you're going to be a hell of a
coach.
If you said a coach because yougot that background, but it's
like how do we do it in a waythat it's their idea, not yours
or not ours?
You know that's the hard part.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
And I'm totally good with that, believe it or not.
Man, like I'm ready forwhatever she gets into and I
hope I'm just as bad as her whenshe starts.
You know, just to show somevulnerability, dude, but like,
but, but I'm really curious onthat drive thing, man, you got
me thinking like where does itcome from?
Just ask your parents.
All right, I'll ask my parentsGo homework, brother, yeah, I'll

(39:46):
ask them.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Let me know I will.
I will.
That's one of my goals too.
We interview, I talk to peoplelike these.
It's like you know, you don'tneed a podcast to have
conversations like these.
We've been talking for almost40 minutes and it's amazing when
we slow down.
Maybe meet a buddy for coffeeonce a week?
No, no agenda, just giveyourself 30 minutes.

(40:08):
Hey, bud, how's your day going?
How can I be a better friend?
Hey, what's what's?
What's what's going on in being?
You know struggles for you anddad.
Well, here's what I'm goingthrough.
Like imagine if everybody didthat, whether it's a, you know,
people sometimes have Biblestudies, they have prayer groups
, they got, or just maybe that'snot your thing, just like I
don't.
I don't go to church time, butI'm like a super spiritual dude.

(40:30):
I look at scripture everymorning.
Sometimes I have no idea.
Like today you made me thinkabout it.
Said, today's scripture was andlet us not grow weary of doing
good, for in due season we willreap if we do not give up.
Boom, what a powerful you know.
Like just reminds me just keepdoing good, dude, and whatever
you get today, be so gratefulfor it.
Like I played nine holes withmy son last night and I was

(40:52):
ahead of him.
Him and his buddy were behindme and I was ahead of him, him
and his buddy were behind me andI was just walking.
I was like, man, I am sofreaking grateful to be out here
.
I'm healthy, I'm walking, I hada beautiful night.
I don't even care what I shoot,I really don't.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
I'm just happy to be here and it's fun to be at that
place.
I had tears come to my eye lastweek just driving, being like
holy smokes.
Dude, this is the and the, the,the struggles, the failures you
know, trying to find your wayin life, and to me, man that's,
you know, of course, helpingpeople but like not worrying

(41:27):
about your bills, dude and stufflike that is such a dang
reliever.
I don't care what anyone says, Iagree and like I'm like driving
on the road with like freakingtears, I get on the bus.
I was like what's wrong withyou?
It's hard to explain this tosome people, right?

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Honey, I just watched the episode of the golden girls
and it really got to me.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, dude, but like I like tears man, like just
thinking, even six, seven yearsago, trying to figure it out.
Man Like, just like, like andknowing you got it.
But like you're in the wrongindustry or the wrong, you're
selling the wrong thing, dude,and like looking back on it,
that's what it was man I waslike, but like that's the

(42:08):
double-edged sword of like notgiving up and stuff.
Like because to me, like when Iwas into those ruts, I was like
I gotta figure out a way to sellthese stupid security sims.
Nowadays me, and like somecso's laugh at that job that I
had.
I was like I was never gonna dothat and they're like, yeah,
once every three years.

(42:28):
Maybe you know and I justunderstand where you come from
but man, the other day I wasliterally driving down the road
with that feeling of just like.
I hope this never ends.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah, that's awesome.
One question I love asking dadsis if you were to watch we're
going to watch some film ofTyler's dad game and if you were
to think about what's an areaof your dad game where you know,
man, I probably could getbetter.
That might relate to other dadsat home.
That, you know, is a gap, butyou're working hard to get
better because we all have them.

(42:59):
But if you feel comfortable,what would tell me what would be
an area of your dad game thatyou know might is not your best,
but you're looking to getbetter.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah, man, it's probably like really
understanding how tired my wifeis sometimes, like truly
understanding and knowing thatand like 90% of the time I do
like but some of the 10% of thetime I don't and do.
If I'm like one-on-one withElla for like two or three hours

(43:27):
, I'm like, oh my gosh, dude,this, this and like Whoa Like.
When people say I have a ton ofenergy, I'm like gosh, this is
like different, right.
So understand, like reallyreally, though, casey, like
really understanding how mucheffort and energy that takes out
of somebody and alwaysremembering that, no matter what
, always being the kind one,even if you know I probably act

(43:51):
a little crazy sometimes too.
If I was up at 345 last nightand and then I come home and I'm
like whatever, x, y and z.
I'm like I'm an idiot, yeah, andand shutting up and listening,
and even if, if, if my wife sayssomething back like that, she
doesn't mean to understand whereshe is.

(44:13):
Because guess what, casey,every time I just do a little
prayer inside, I get quiet, Ijust nod my head.
Guess what happens?
Like an hour or so later she'slike I am sorry that I said that
that way, I did not mean that,you know, and that's it, man,
that's if I can answer thatother 10% all the time down.

(44:36):
That's what I'm working on.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
One of the best pieces of advice I got in my
life that's not only impacted mein business for 30 years, but
it's also impacted me as a dadis when a leader asks me Casey,
what's more important, do youwant to be right or do you want
to get what you want?
You can't have both.
Yeah, and it's such an easyanswer.
If your ego is checked, you'regoing to want to get what you

(44:59):
want and sometimes like that'sthe way you just described it
perfectly it's like you could befrustrated with your day but
you got to realize your wife hadtwo hours sleep last night and
you had eight.
Give her some grace.
Or the other thing.

(45:20):
When you said that, you made merealize.
One thing I talk about a lotwith my clients is understanding
the difference betweenrecognition and appreciation.
Recognition takes moneysometimes, appreciation just
takes time.
So, whether that's threeseconds, the first thing you
walk in the door, dad's like hey, honey, thank you so much for
doing what you do.
I can't imagine I don't havethe skill set to do that.
I know if I had to I'd figureit out, but I'm so grateful that
you do what you do so I can bemy best version of me generate

(45:42):
money for our family.
Thank you, and sometimes yousay that once a week or what I
mean shit.
She'd be so happy.
I bet Amen Just takes a, justtakes a little bit of time and
appreciation.
So, um, all right, before wewrap up here, I want to learn
about how, in the wide world,you got at this company called

(46:04):
Acotis.
How'd you get into IT services,staffing, consulting, whatever
you're doing there?
And then after that, I want tohear about your podcast.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
All right, man.
Well, I was upstate New Yorktrying to sell security tools
for a living man and I kid younot, right above me in the same
building was like staffing andsolutions and I would literally
look up at my desk.
I would look up and I wouldscratch my head.
I'd be like dang, that soundslike way more up my alley, like

(46:35):
way up my alley, as opposed tolike talking about endpoint
protection, only all this stuff,man, I just wasn't it.
And a guy at a modus at the time, uh, he kept like sprinkling
little little seeds on me, man,he.
And one time he was like howlong does it take to close a
deal, dude?
I was like, oh man, six, nine,blah.

(46:55):
He's like how's like a weeksound sometimes?
And I was like that's not athing, dude.
So he got me over there and Ijust it's just fun, man, like
I've had, I'm like kind of likemy own boss.
You know, it's one of thoseplaces I finally never want to
move up at Like.
I don't want to be a leaderhere, I wanted to be a leader of

(47:19):
my family and myself at work,and I get that here.
They're like, dude, pump asmuch Tyler White in Dallas,
texas.
As you can dude, this is myonly guidance.
And then about five and a halfyears ago, on the podcast deal,
me and my co-hosts were inupstate new york thinking like
how the heck do we get c leaders?

(47:40):
Like how?

Speaker 3 (47:40):
do we know?

Speaker 1 (47:41):
them, or there's like we're just like two dudes, just
like call people and they don'tever answer their phone.
And what do we?
What would we even say to themif they did answer their phone?
You know, just that's not it.
So we started the podcast.
We sent out 15 emails.

(48:01):
We got just saying hey, do youwant to be on our podcast?
Local podcast in Rochester, newYork.
We didn't even have a name forit, we had nothing, nothing.
And we had nine people say yeahand we were like, okay, we got
to come up with a podcast nowand it was like on zoom dude,
and we would like meet eachother and like we would sit next

(48:22):
to each other like a coupledorks with like a whiteboard
behind us, with like a script,and that script got tossed like
episode four, you know.
And then it got to like episodelike 35 and I was like, dude,
leadership's kind of boring totalk about for an hour, like
Like we got to really dive inthe person.
So just the other day we hadlike the VP of IT at Pepsi and
it was like minute 53.

(48:42):
And she was like, isn't thissupposed to be about leadership?
And we were like, not, anymore,you can tie it in, because
there's only so much you canhear about leadership to make
something interesting in ourexperience doing it.
But now, yeah, we just getreferrals and we're booked until
2026 and we take december offand it's fun, man, and we all

(49:05):
also get like big groupstogether is the fun part.
I'm throwing an event in augustand it's like 50 to 60 it
leaders in dfw, with no panel,no business cards, just come
bring yourself, type thing, andthat's where it's led to, man,
and that's honestly why sometears came to my eye.
The other day too, I was likeI'm hosting an event with like

(49:27):
60 IT leaders around here.
Back in my day I couldn't get60 all year on my map, man, I
was just so grateful for theopportunities that are coming my
way and they're all basedaround fun.
The podcast is fun.
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Works fun and where can people find um the podcast
and where can people learn moreabout a CODIS?

Speaker 1 (49:52):
A podcast on Spotify, apple music, um, linkedin, we
post shorts on there and then acode so you can just go to our
website.
You know straight up, itconsulting and staffing.
There's a ton of us.
So I really don't like topromote.
I like to promote Tyler White alot more than that.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
It's kind of how I roll, man Love it Okay, Before
we get into what I call thelighting round, if you were to
summarize everything we'vetalked about today into maybe
three actionable nuggets ofTyler White wisdom from our
conversation that dads can taketo say man, I'm glad I listened
to the last 50 minutes or so ofthese two dudes.

(50:29):
I took these three things thatI can apply in my own life to be
a better quarterback or leaderof their home.
Tyler, tell me what comes tomind.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
I think I'll go back to showing up.
It's easy.
It's harder than it sounds.
Keeping your commitments harderthan it sounds.
Live your life.
Serving with no expectations isthe funnest part of life to me.
Man.
I just love like.
It just frees me up to no end.

(50:57):
Even if you fail, man like I, Ilisten to people that have
failed their way to success alot more than whatever the other
is, like I and the, the, thefailures is where the laughter
is, is what I like to say.
Like when me and my buddy, likewe conquer something in business
or whatever, even with myfamily, like the win isn't as

(51:19):
fun as the mess ups on the way,it's like the mess ups is what
we talk about.
It's like, hey, casey, rememberwhen you jacked that up, that
was awful, like true bellylaughs.
So, yeah, showing up, noexpectations, guys.
And I think rule 47 is you know, know, don't take yourself so
serious because no one else does.

(51:40):
Like there's something else incharge of this whole blue ball
we're floating on and realizethat and and grace man, you said
the word grace, that's the wordI was looking for earlier casey
, but that's the great words.
Yeah, man, my favorite words.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
All right, love it, dude all right, my favorite
words All right, love it, dude.
All right.
Now it's time to go to thelightning round, which I show
you the negative hits of takingtoo many hits in college Not
bong hits, but football hits.
Your job is to answer thesequestions as quickly as you can.
My job is to hopefully get agiggle out of you.
Okay, are you ready?
Fire them up, man?
Okay, true or false?

(52:15):
You once kicked a 57 yard fieldgoal at arkansas to win a
football game.
False, we almost got to giggleeverybody.
It was really close.
You fought it hard, though.
Um favorite music genre thatnone of your colleagues know is
oh man I would.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
I'm getting into some like edm stuff right now, some,
and then I like a good.
I like a good tearjerker.
Classical music too, likeFriday Night Lights soundtrack
man, just like the slower stuff.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
There we go, a little slow dance, snowball style.
I like it.
Favorite movie of all time is Iused to go.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
My go-to was Braveheart, that's a classic
William Wallace.
Yeah, man, you bled withWallace.
Now bleed with me, like I usedto listen to that one of his
speeches, like on my on a burnCD from Napster, like on my way
to school.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Yeah, man, that's gotta be it still nice if you
were to go on vacation right now, just you and your wife.
Sorry, ellie, you're stayinghome.
Tell me where we're going.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Oh man, we are going at this season in my life, dude,
we're going to some, just some,beach.
I'm going to use some genericanswer, but it's.
It's just a beach, somewherewhere I can just look at the
ocean.
It's just a beach, somewherewhere I can just look at the
ocean something more powerfulthan me and breathe and turn the

(53:44):
phone and laptop off for a week, that's it Sand, feel the earth
, feel powerless.
Would you rather make athree-point skyhook or a
three-point granny shot?
I'm going with the skyhook dude, yeah, bank or no bank, what's
that?

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Bank or no bank what's that?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Bank or no bank, I mean I would have.
I'd like to frustrate somepeople and bank it.
You know, no one likes a bankshot on the court.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
They almost don't even count it and specifically
the sky hook from three pointsreally going to catch them off
guard.
You know, yeah, posting a guyup, oh, dude, the hook man
Posting a guy up.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Oh dude man, it's a lost art.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
If there was to be a book written about your life
tell me the title.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Honestly, it would probably be my dad's favorite
play Power.
I write 44.
Wham would be the title of mybook.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Actually, I'm a football guy.
I can visualize this play.
You know I didn't know thatplaybook, but I can still see it
.
Okay, power book, but I canstill see it.
Okay, power, I write 44 Wham ontwo on two.
Now that play is going to bethat movie.
Pardon me that book.
Sorry, if I can speak it inEnglish, that book is going to
be turned into a movie.
Tyler Now, because everyairport this book sold out.

(54:50):
Amazon can't print enoughcopies, barnes and Noble can't.
This thing's coming like goingout hot like hotcakes.
So you are now the castingdirector.
You are in charge of casting.
Tyler White, it can't be.
You Tell me who's going to staryou in this critically
acclaimed hit new movie.
Bill Murray, dude, gunga, gunga, la Gunga.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Yeah, man, that's a simple one dude, bill Murray.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
One of my favorite Bill Murray movies ever is
Kingpin.
Oh yeah, I don't know if youremember the part when this is
again Uncle Rico moment, truestory.
Do you remember when he waspretending to be the dad that
come home from, he'd sleep overwith the wife and it was like
Some days Mr McCracken's alreadyin my house and I wake up.

(55:38):
I like to play catch withlittle Johnny Jonathan.
Run a fly pattern.
Tennessee, kentucky.
I did that play in a collegefootball practice.
I went to my, I went to mybuddies and I had all my hey
guys, cause our normal cadencewas like set 180, 180.
You know, ready, hutt, I saidwe're going to go on Kentucky.

(56:02):
When I go high pitch, do nottry not to laugh.
My coaches are like what in thehell is wrong with you?
I'm like coach, I'm having funGood talk.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Oh God Okay.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
I divert, but I just made that.
Now, most important question aswe wrap up, tell me two words
that would describe your wife.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Oh man, just intelligent, amazing.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Boom yeah, intelligent, amazing Lightning
rounds complete.
We both giggled.
I giggled at my own jokes,which that's what dads usually
do.
Tyler, this has been an awesome, awesome conversation and,
marie, thank you for introducingus.
I love learning more about you.
I love learning more about your.
Energy is infectious, so it'snot surprising why you've had
success in what you do, and I'llmake sure that your podcast is

(56:51):
linked, and we want to make surewe get more subscribers.
If you're an executive outthere, you want to share your
wisdom with Tyler, we'll makesure you guys can get connected
too.
Um, we'll make sure that.
Um, uh, we'll make sure that wesend this out to as many people
as we can.
But, thank you, I appreciateyou.
I hope our paths cross againsoon and, um, thanks for working
hard to become the ultimateno-transcript.
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