May 15, 2025 • 55 mins
What shapes us as fathers? For Kyle Rampy, Vice President, Central Region, at Tier 4 Group and father of four children under ten, the answer lies in embracing the light and shadow of his past.
In this heartfelt conversation, Kyle takes us through his journey from a childhood fractured by divorce at age four to building a stable, values-driven home for his family. With remarkable vulnerability, he shares how moving between his mother in Kansas and father in Texas shaped his understanding of family dynamics, including a pivotal moment in third grade when missing over a month of school led to a custody change that would alter the trajectory of his life.
Rather than glossing over difficult topics, Kyle dives deep into how his mother's struggles with depression impacted him, and his ongoing work toward forgiveness while she battles cancer today. "There's forgiveness there, even though there's been hurt," Kyle reflects, showing how breaking generational patterns often begins with healing our own wounds first.
The conversation shifts to Kyle's parenting philosophy, built around three core values: leading with love, maintaining strong faith, and demonstrating unwavering integrity. His practical approach to emotional regulation stands out—instead of escalating tension when his children become upset, he's learned to get down on their level and ask curious questions. "What's causing you to have this reaction or emotion?" This simple shift has created not only a more peaceful home but also deeper connections with his children.
We also explore Kyle's professional journey in staffing, his work at Tier 4, and his passion for supporting Women in Technology initiatives. His values inform his leadership style, you will see firsthand during this episode. The episode concludes with a lightning round revealing everything from his favorite comedy movies (Billy Madison or Happy Gilmore) to who would play him in a movie (Ryan Reynolds).
Whether you're navigating a complicated family history or simply wanting to lead your home with greater purpose, Kyle's story reminds us that our greatest parenting challenges often become our greatest gifts—if we're willing to do the inner work first. Subscribe now and join our community of dads committed to breaking cycles and building stronger families.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, hey everybody, it's Casey Jaycox with the
Quarterback Dadcast.
We're in season six and theseguests just keep on ramping up.
Y'all, that's my accent.
The tease, for our next guest,who sits in Texas and he was a
client of mine, still is aclient of mine.
He's become a friend of mine.
His name is Kyle Rampey.
He is the vice president of thecentral region of a fantastic
(00:23):
company called Tier 4.
Is the vice president of thecentral region of a fantastic
company called Tier 4.
It's a company I got introducedto by the one and only Robert
Bouchard, who I worked with foryears at K-Force, and then he
introduced me to the one andonly Betsy Robinson, who is a
fantastic CEO.
And I met Kyle, and Kyle isknown as the, I'd say, the
tattoo or the Pele of staffing.
He's a Hardin-Simmons, hardenedSimmons cowboy, a soccer
(00:47):
machine.
But that's not why we're havingKyle on today.
We're gonna have all Kyle on tohow, so we can learn how he's
working hard to become thatultimate quarterback or leader
of his household.
So, without further ado, mrRampey, welcome to the
quarterback dad cast thank you,mr Jaycox.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'm happy to be here.
I'll be, honest.
You've had professionalathletes on the on.
You've had titans of industry.
What am I doing here?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well, I lost my contact for Hookup on Caps and
I'm hoping that this episodereally gets me that discount I
always wanted back.
Love it, love it.
No.
Joking aside, everybody, we'realready off to a great start.
Kyle everybody is someone Ireally enjoyed getting to know.
(01:35):
I think from a valuesperspective.
One of the things we talk aboutin this podcast is humility,
vulnerability and curiosity, andI think Kyle leads with those,
at least the Kyle that I know,which I think it's the Kyle that
everybody else knows.
But before we dive in too farbrother, tell me what are you
most grateful for as a dad today?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Lots of things, lots of little things, not to be too
cliche but just thankful to wakeup and have breath in my lungs
this morning.
Number one grateful to God thatI have this life that I've been
given with my wonderful wifeand our family, four beautiful
(02:15):
children that we've been blessedwith and get to do life with
great friends and family aroundus as well.
So those are the main thingsI'm grateful for today
especially on a good Friday.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
A hundred percent, I don't.
I don't think it's cliche atall.
I think it's why I always likestarting out episodes of
gratitude is to to slow peopledown, to remember these little
things Like you're notguaranteed the breath tomorrow,
you're not guaranteed our health, and so I think when we sit in
gratitude to start meetings orstart the day, it's amazing what
it does to your mindset and itchanges the way you're kind of
(02:50):
your outlook, and so I wouldencourage people, if you're not
starting with gratitude, do it.
See what happens.
And I've been doing gratitudework in my journal for four
years now and I literally haveretrained my brain.
I can't start the day withoutdoing it and I'm addicted to it
now.
But what I'm grateful for todayis I'm going to give a shout
(03:14):
out to both my kids.
One I've had to continue justto.
Seeing my son's growth as afreshman in college has been
blowing my mind every day.
I feel like there's justanother level of maturity I'm
seeing.
So I'm grateful for that andthose conversations.
And I'm grateful, then, for mydaughter Riley.
Um, uh, just uh, she got.
I got home yesterday.
I was at a work event and I gothome and she was studying for a
(03:35):
test.
And sometimes you know theteenage daughter you can go in.
Your dad's dad jumps in hey,right, I.
Sometimes you get the face oflike hey, beat it, nerd.
Uh, but luckily I, she was likehey dad, what's up?
How was golf?
You know what?
What'd you shoot?
What did you have fun?
And uh, just I'm grateful forthose little moments that, like,
you get to spend with your kidwhen and if they, if they give
(03:57):
you a little, just like in sales, like ask more questions and
watch what happens.
And the next thing, though, weI was studying for a big
chemistry test, but it was atleast 15 minutes that I'm
grateful for that.
Like, soon she'll be out of thehouse too, and I know I'm just
trying to really enjoy thosemoments because they're they're
going too fast, brother.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, you are.
You're on the opposite end ofthe spectrum than I am, my, my,
my days are longer than theyears are shorter right now, you
know, we have four that are 10and under at this point.
It is going by fast.
It seems like the time speedsup on us as we go, but yeah,
enjoying every moment and got afew years left on the runway.
(04:37):
But I know it's going to goquick.
I've been told that by numerouspeople.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
So true?
Well, you teased us with a fewmembers of the squad, and so the
theme of playing quarterbackbring us into the rampy huddle
and tell us how you and yourwife met, and then tell us about
each member of the squad.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, my wife and I met during my time out in the
big metropolis known as Abilene,texas, which, if you know
anything about West Texas, it isnot a big metropolis, there's
barely anything out there.
But yeah, we met while I wasout there my sophomore year at
Hardin-Simmons.
We actually were not dating atthe time, we were just friends.
(05:17):
We were each dating otherpeople at the time, ironically,
but we stayed in touch and yearslater, when we had both moved
back to the Dallas area, aboutfive years later, after I
graduated, we we met back up andthe rest, as they say, is
history.
We met back up.
I actually had an alumni eventthat I attended for for our
(05:39):
soccer program.
Some of the old soccer buddiesgot together and she ended up
showing up with my old collegeco-captain and, uh, I guess it
was.
It was written in the starsbecause, uh, or at least
somebody was watching over us,because, uh, very, very random,
random meetup back then.
But uh, yeah, we enjoy tellingpeople that story because, uh,
(05:59):
it's a little little off kilter.
But yeah, I think uh, it was,it was there was definitely a
plan there.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Serendipity.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, absolutely Uh.
Great restaurant in New York.
By the way, I actually saw KobeBryant there one time.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
If you can believe it .
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, we'll tell.
We'll tell that story foranother day.
Um, but we, uh, we ended upgetting married in December of
2012.
So we're going on 13 years now,12 and a half years, and in
that time had four beautifulkids Landon is my oldest, at 10
years old.
Tenley is our eight-year-old.
(06:38):
Got Micah, who's mysix-year-old and is a ball full
of energy.
And Quinn, who rules the roostaround here.
She's our four-year-old and isa ball full of energy.
And, uh, and quinn who, whorules the roost around here,
she's our four-year-old okay anduh, you being a soccer beast?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
um, he's wearing shin guards right now.
Everybody, um, but being asoccer beast, are all the kids
into soccer?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
uh, two of them are.
My two boys are big into it Fortheir age groups.
They're both at a competitivelevel already and obviously that
warms my heart and love to seeit.
I've never pushed the sport onthem.
I introduced it to them, but Ialways want them to do what they
(07:22):
love and what they'repassionate about and you know
what.
They were introduced to it andthey've just taken it on with
gusto and they've done reallywell.
I'm proud of them.
They're my source of constantentertainment both on the field
and off the field.
But extremely proud of them andmy daughters.
(07:43):
My oldest just got intovolleyball and does some
tumbling on the side, somegymnastics.
Then we introduced ourfour-year-old to gymnastics as
well.
They were actually watching alittle bit of the NCAA
championships going on thisweekend here in Fort Worth on
the TV last night.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
There you go.
The on the tv last night.
There you go.
I'd say, man, when my daughterwas in gymnastics as a young, it
was the most stressful thingwatching gymnastics,
specifically when they have themclimb the rope for the first
time.
Oh, yeah I'm like is is it meor is there a lack of common
sense with this rope idea?
It's like, hey, let's have afive-year-old climb a rope 30
feet in the air with no net.
(08:22):
Like what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
but in this little, in this little, you know little
little girl that's gonna be downthere catching them right.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, I'm like maybe, maybe I'm the idiot here
everybody, but maybe there's agymnastics people out there you
can help me, like, learn what mywhat?
I might be off on that one, butthankfully my daughter got into
basketball, successful.
Okay, it's time to flexcapacitor, turn back the you
(08:50):
know, the back of the future.
I want you to go back in timethere, mr Rampey, and I want to
learn about what was life likegrowing up for you and talk
about the impact that yourparents had on you.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Now that you're a dad , oh man, I don't know if we
have enough time on this show togo through everything.
Uh, so I was born in uh in FortWorth here in Texas.
Uh spent my my early childhoodyears here in the kind of the
mid cities area over in uh,hearst and and Colleyville.
(09:22):
Over in that area and my mother, whose name is Cassie, and my
father, troy, were married for afew years before I was born and
actually my dad was able toadopt my older brother and older
sister, who were from anothermarriage that my mother had
(09:43):
previously, who were fromanother marriage that my mother
had previously, and so we allwere living together in
Colleyville during my earlyyears and they ended up
divorcing around.
I was between four and fiveyears old at that time and ended
up moving with my mother up toKansas and that's why you don't
hear the Southern drawl so much.
(10:03):
Got a lot of Midwestern roots inmy family.
My dad's from Kansas't hear theSouthern drawl so much.
Got a lot of Midwestern rootsin my family.
My dad's from Kansas.
I have a lot of extended familyfrom that area and from
Missouri Lake, of the Ozarksarea, and my mother's from
Kansas as well, so I spent acouple of years up there, and
then my dad was able to gaincustody of us kids a couple of
(10:23):
years later and transitioned usback to the back to the DFW area
, and that's where I spent themajority of my youth.
Growing up was in the DFW area.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Okay, so curiosity alarms are going off here, sir,
so we share that in common.
My parents got divorced when Iwas in college.
It wasn't easy to go through.
My dad passed away now, inDecember 29th 2021.
But I see I definitely saw theimpact of it having.
I think it was harder on mysister than me, but I end up.
(10:56):
I don't think I don't know if Ishared with you, but me and my
wife ended up taking care of mydad later in life before he
passed away.
But as you think about that,the divorce impact for you at a
young age, was it something youremember at all?
Was it a challenging time?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
That's a great question.
You know, there are bits andpieces of my childhood that I
remember, and some that I don'tremember, I think subconsciously
, maybe, block some things out.
To be honest with you, I don'tremember my biological parents
being together that much, justbecause I was so young.
(11:34):
I do remember some of thestrife afterwards and the
transition to my dad gettingremarried and have a great
relationship with my stepmom,who I call my mom to this day.
Her name is Sherry and um, andwe had a great upbringing and uh
but yeah it doesn't comewithout its challenges.
There are.
There are generational rippleeffects to divorce.
(11:57):
And that is something that mywife and I have have talked
about even before we got marriedthat the uh, the D word it that
the D word, it's not an option,you know, not an option in our
house, and we're looking tobreak generational curses and to
create new habits and create,you know, not have the same
habits and hangups and hurtsthat have gotten us to this
(12:20):
point.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I love it, dude.
My wife and I said the samething.
We just had 26 years,congratulations.
Yeah, hard to believe, dude.
My wife and I said the samething we just had 26 years,
congratulations.
Yeah, hard to believe, dude.
I mean it's not hard to believe, but sometimes it's like, wow,
um, but as I, because I comeclose to the ripe old age of 50,
when I can't wait for the AARPdiscount and if you're looking
for, okay, so mom, so dadremarried, our mom and dad still
(12:45):
with mom, or biological mom,stepmom and dad still with us.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Still all with us.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yes, Okay, and what did?
What did everybody do for a job, out of curiosity?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
That's a great question.
Mother bounced around anddifferent things throughout her
career in customer service andretail and even working in some
restaurants and diners and thosethings.
And then my father was actuallyin the mortgage business for
gosh more than 40 years, startedoff in banking and then got
(13:20):
into mortgage banking andworking in the mortgage
insurance industry with a coupleof different companies, but
ended up retiring a few yearsago and had a very, very
successful career.
He ended up being a regionalvice president for a large
mortgage company mortgageinsurance company here in the US
.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Solid.
Do we have brothers and sisters?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
We do.
Yes, I've got none of them arefull blooded all half brothers
and sisters and one adoptedbrother.
Don't don't see them that way,I see them as just brother and
sister.
But just to give you a littlebit of background, I've got an
older brother and Jason, oldersister and Amy, younger brother
and Tyler, and another youngeradopted brother and Tanner.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And are they all in Texas area?
They're not.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
No Oldest brother is in Kansas.
Amy is here in Texas out inLubbock, Go Texas Tech Guns up
and my younger brother, Tyler Iactually don't know where he's
at these days.
I believe he's still up in theMidwest somewhere.
And then my youngest brother,Tanner, is here in the DFW area.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Very cool when you were growing up?
Did you ever stop and think itwas different than any other of
your buddies?
Or was it something like youknow, this is our family and
this is our, our, our normal.
We're going to make it normal,or was that ever a challenge?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, a little bit of both, uh, just because I did
travel back and forth to see mymother from Texas to Kansas and
back quite a bit, um.
And then obviously, uh, mystepmother uh came into the
marriage with my father with nochildren, and so you know that
had a little bit of a differentdynamic.
(15:10):
And then obviously we adoptedmy younger brother, tanner at
birth, brought him home at theage of 12.
So yeah, there was a unquote,as you would imagine, but it
(15:31):
didn't come without itschallenges.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
What were some of the hardest parts.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
If you feel comfortable sharing, yeah, I
think for me, the transitionfrom my mother and father being
married to divorced and thentransitioning from Kansas to
Texas, that was an interestingtransition and we can delve more
(15:57):
into my time in Kansas duringthat time period, maybe a little
bit, which will help set thestage.
But yeah, my older brother andsister were adopted by my father
.
They have no blood relation tomy father, to be honest with you
, but took on his last name.
He ended up gaining fullcustody of them and there were
(16:19):
some roadblocks that we had tonavigate when my father and my
stepmother got married and theydid the best that they could at
that time you know they were myolder brother and older sister
were navigating their feelingsabout what was going on with my
mom at the time and in the newmarriage between my dad and our
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stepmom.
And and, uh, and and that andall of that.
And then, um, I was, I was kindof the middle child or the
youngest child at that point uh,just taking it all in and
watching how things were playingout.
Um, so that I think that shapedwho I am a little bit.
It shaped the leader that I amtoday.
And and, uh, how I try to be alead with, with empathy and
(17:01):
understanding, uh, rather than,you know, being a heavy handed
dad or a heavy handed leader andum, so, yeah it it.
It had its road, its road bumps, uh, throughout that time, but
uh, but ultimately I think itshaped the man I am today and
helped me be a little bit moreunderstanding of of different
situations and different waysthat people grow up.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
That's great man.
It's good to reflect andsometimes you know, a lot of
times the guests I've had Kyle,they don't some reflect more
often than not, some don'treflect more often than not, and
so sometimes we have theseconversations.
It's like, wow, I haven'tthought about this in a while.
You mentioned, you know, someof the challenges that might
(17:45):
shed some more light.
Maybe I'd love to go into thatfor what you feel comfortable
sharing, like about the time inKansas and living with mom and
as you reflect back as a dad andthen moving back to Dallas,
like maybe talk about maybe somestories that really shaped you
as a young guy.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, you know that time period.
You know, as I stated, I kind ofgo in and out of different
memories here and there, but onething that really has stuck
with me during that time is mymother was going through some
really tough times in depression, navigated that.
(18:16):
It was very difficult for herhaving to move back home and to
transition into a new way oflife and actually during that
time period it was about mythird grade year I didn't go to
school for probably more than amonth, had a, had a tough time
(18:37):
getting me to school and uh,that that kind of kicked things
off to where, uh, you know,custody battle started to ensue
from that point and uh, and wasable to transition back to Texas
where I had a very caringteacher uh, mrs Mrs Carleen King
If she ever hears this she's uh, she made a huge impact on my
(18:57):
life at that time and uh, stillconnected to her to this day.
She's like another mom to me.
But, yeah, that was a difficulttime Not being able to see my
mother go through that struggleand then transitioning back to
quote unquote some more of anormal life during that time,
(19:18):
moving back to Texas.
So how?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
how did your dad and stepmom become aware that, hey,
kyle's living the life?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
he's watching Price is Right and Different Strokes,
and this third grade year is thebest ever.
Yeah, I think you know, theytraveled up to Kansas every so
often and there's one where Iwas living at the time and I
show up to the game and again,I'm about 10 years old at this
(20:12):
time, riding my bike to the gameby myself, and they said
where's your mother?
I said, well, she's at home.
She's not here.
I said you rode your bike allthe way to the game on your own.
I said, yeah, and so I playedthe game.
They were there.
It was great.
I remember them being there andthen, from that point forward, I
think it moved pretty quicklyto where the custody process got
(20:39):
kicked off and then started toplay out.
And so, yeah, you know, throughthrough that instance, but also
just through conversations thatI think my dad had with me at
the time about what's going on,you know how's how's school
going and being.
Even though he wasn't therephysically, he was still present
and having those conversationswith me at that time and, yeah,
(21:00):
it was just that that was, uh,that was a God thing that they
had come up from Texas to comesee me play that day, uh, and
noticed that that I was at thegame by myself.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, my dad, um, when he was alive, he struggled
with depression for years and soI learned a lot about it and it
was one of the hardest partsfor me to you know, I was a mid
twenties.
The hardest part aboutunderstanding depression was I
didn't understand it.
I was more of a hey, let's gosnap out of it, like, and I
(21:37):
learned a lot about empathyabout that.
Wow, you know, I'm verygrateful that I I I'm so far
have not had to deal withdepression.
I mean, I've downed asia, like,just like anybody.
But when my dad would go down,he would go down, and I mean, I
had to take him to psychiatricwards and you want to talk about
some scary environments, um,and just his confidence was just
done like rocked, and then he'dcome out of it, um, so, uh, you
(22:02):
know, at the end of his life,before he passed away, it was
like it was, you know, thedementia kicked in, but it was a
freaking brutal journey, butlike, but I don't know.
I just share that with youbecause I, I I've had experience
going through a parent withdementia, I mean, sorry, with
depression.
And, um, is mom better now?
Is she still facing some ofthese challenges, or is she?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It's a good.
It's a good question.
You know I you're you'rehitting on a nerve right now and
you're you're good at that,casey.
Um, yeah, I have.
You know I talked about hurtsand hangups and habits.
Um, I have a lot of hangups andhurts with, with mom, and those
are things that I'm actuallyworking through right now is, I
(22:45):
think there's a little bit ofunderlying anger with, you know,
lack of mom being there for themajority of my life, and those
are things that I'm having towork through.
She's going through cancertreatment currently and not
being there for that is a littleunsettling.
But yeah, uh, but yeah, she'sstill with us.
Uh, those are, those are thingsthat are on my agenda and, uh,
(23:05):
I will I'm not going to use aswear word I will uh be getting,
you know, be getting with herto talk through some of those
things, especially, you know,god forbid she, she passes, you
know, in the in the near future.
I would hate to leave thingsunsaid and let her know that
there's forgiveness there, eventhough there's been hurt.
(23:25):
There's forgiveness there and.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I know that I need that as well, Wow dude, I did
not know that and I appreciateyou sharing.
A couple of things came to mindStories as you said that I read
a book on forgiveness by a guynamed Rich Case that was
introduced to me by one of myformer executives I think it's
by Rich Case in my late 30s andI learned that forgiveness takes
(23:48):
me, reconciliation takes youand me.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
And it was a really powerful lesson I learned for me
.
I'm not saying it's going to befor everybody, but um, uh, you
know, and I, and then I thinkabout when, my when I was really
, really frustrated with my dadand the dementia, and I mean my
dad accused me of stealing allof his money to build my house
at one point.
Well, you know, and that didnot never happened to everybody,
(24:13):
it was a dementia talking, butlike having to like forgive and
realize that that this is thedisease that has taken him, not
my dad.
And I remember there's a guynamed tony davis who I
interviewed.
Um, he's a coach locally in ourcommunity.
His mom had dementia too.
I remember one day he challengedme he goes, he's in there
somewhere and it was just like apunch in the face.
(24:35):
I was like, god dang it, whydid you say that?
And I felt guilty.
And then I was like, but he'sright.
And so then I I went from forme, changing my perspective and
mindset.
I'm that I don't, I don't haveto go see my dad, I go, I get to
see my dad.
And that's like the last, likeI'd say, six weeks of his life.
I saw him probably five days aweek.
Um, this was like during theheight of covid.
(24:57):
So, like you know, it'lldifferent, different times
because like we're masks andcraziness and all this crap, but
, um, it's, it's, it was what Ineeded to do.
But I think, like if I didn'tgo through the challenges before
, I wouldn't have been where I'mat now with him.
That's right, you know.
And so I think, like everything, like she pointed god's plan
god does have a plan.
I totally believe that you know.
(25:19):
It's the journey you're on.
So I'm, I'll pray for you guys,that I hope that you can.
You can get to that forgivenessspot and your mom can get to
the spot and hopefully she canforgive herself.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And I appreciate that not to get too religious on the
show, but you know, I believein a God who is forgiving and
you know, who am I not to beforgiving of the person who gave
me life, and so, yeah, it'ssomething that is a personal
battle and a struggle, but it'spart of who I am.
It's it shaped how I parent andand actually the type of spouse
(25:51):
that I am as well, and I'mthankful for it, I'm grateful
for it, I'm grateful for her.
But, yeah, there's there's somethings on my on to-do list for
sure.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, well, um, and I , yeah, don't, don't sweat, I
would say this show we've gotspiritual more than religious.
I don't want to open aPandora's box, but I think I'm
definitely a spiritual guy thanan organized religion.
Actually.
And not to get too off track,and this is going to put the
other way.
Have you seen the righteousgemstones?
And not to get too off track,and this is going to put the
other way.
Have you seen the righteousgemstones?
(26:21):
I have not.
Have you heard about it?
I have.
It is fricking hilarious.
And so there's.
I probably just offended half ofmy audience by saying this, but
you have a little bit of.
You have a common like, have alittle bit of sense of humor,
it's.
It definitely is kind of pushthe envelope on some things, but
it is.
It is.
I don't know.
I'm like laughing my ass off.
My wife and I are like laughing.
Now it doesn't impact myrelationship with God or
(26:42):
spirituality I have.
I still pray every morning, Istill do Bible scripture every
morning, I still sometimes Idon't know what the hell they
mean, but sometimes I do, andbut anyway, I digress.
Okay, wow, that was a lot, dude.
So I'd love to to go, I'd loveto understand.
Like you know you are from whatI've got to know you, you're
(27:03):
very hands-on dad, um, uh,obviously, solid marriage, um,
good communicator, uh.
But you went through some rockytimes.
Like, have you ever thoughtback like, wow, where where did
that come from?
Is there a story?
Or like the values maybe yourmom and stepdad or dad and
(27:23):
stepdad mom taught you that youcan think of that rally.
When I was growing up, I reallylearned that boom.
These three things thatimpacted me now as a dad.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I uh, you know, came,came to know the Lord when I was
uh eight and and that wasactually something that was
driven by not only my dad butreally my stepmom was to get our
family into church and I'mgrateful to both of them and
specifically to her for that,for introducing that into our
(27:53):
family, into our life.
And you know, that was aturning point in my life at that
time and you know, obviouslyyou have your ups and downs even
from that point.
But yeah, that was the, that wasthe turning point was was when
my, when my dad and my stepmomgained full custody and and kind
(28:14):
of provided a little bit morenormalcy and stability in my
life, and you know that thathelped shape a lot of who I am
today and and how I parent.
Um, there are always thingsthat that need to be improved
upon.
Uh, you know, I, I would sayI'm a decent communicator, but
uh, my, my wife will be thefirst to tell you that there are
things that need to be brushedup on, for sure.
(28:35):
Um, but yeah, it's, it's, it'sbeen quite the journey it's.
But yeah, when I, when Itransitioned to move in with my
dad and my and my step-mom, thatthat was kind of the turning
point in my life and and I don'tI don't want to say it and put
me on the complete straight andnarrow but it's, it's shaped a
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lot of who I am today.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
So, besides faith being a value and obviously
something that really impactedyou, what, what were other some
core values that dad taught youand step mom and maybe mom
taught you that that were likehey, in the rampy household.
These are the must haves You'regoing to be good at A and B.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Absolutely Well.
Number one is you know, you,you let your yes be yes and your
no be no, and there's no,there's no in between.
If you say you're going to dosomething, you do it and you
lead with with integrity.
You, you follow through.
And what your commitments are,uh, no matter what.
And um and you and you and youshow your true character.
Um and uh, my dad worked reallyhard, traveled a lot, um and uh
(29:37):
, my dad worked really hard,traveled a lot, um, but you know
, when he was, when he waspresent, he was, he was the
greatest dad I could have askedfor.
Uh, same goes for my mom.
She, she, uh, put a lot of workinto our household.
Uh, the laundry was always keptup with, the house was always
clean, um, but you know, sheinstilled a lot of hard work in
(30:01):
us as well.
And you know my dad always ledby example.
And that was another big keytrait that he always said was
don't just lead by your words,lead by example and let people
know who you are by the way thatyou act, by the way that you
treat them, and and not just bywords.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Can you think of a story of how he did that?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Oh gosh, um, you know I don't know that I have a
specific one that comes off thetop of my head right now, but
just seeing the amount of workthat my dad put in, not only you
know, to his, to his job, butjust, you know, traveling back
in from from business trips toget back to my ball games and
(30:49):
and to be a, to be a coach, tobe involved on a daily and
weekly basis, to consistentlyget us to church every week and
just the day in, day out,investment of being the leader
of the household, was theexample that I remember and
(31:10):
there are plenty of times that Ican remember that my dad was
just there.
I mean, he just you know.
I think back to my senior yearin high school.
Uh, when we were we werefighting for a state
championship in in soccer and uh, you know, my dad was there for
the last game and uh, actuallycame down on the field when we
(31:32):
lost.
I was actually one of thepenalty takers that missed that
day and I was gutted and my dadcame out of the stands and came
out onto the field and just puthis arms around me and said I'm
proud of you and walked off thefield with me, and those are the
types of things that I rememberjust being being present and
(31:54):
making sure that he knows thatyou know that he's proud of me,
no matter what, and that's thetype of type of dad that I that
I seek to be.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, that's cool, that's you know.
There's the episode that cameout this week.
It's like his dad reminded meTim, glennie, shout out to Tim.
He's like your parent, yourkids are always watching.
And I mean, the one thing thatwe as dads have in common is
we're all flawed, we're so farfrom perfect.
But I think just like beingpresent to know, like when you
do mess up, you own it orthere's things you want to get
(32:27):
better at, you ask for help, butthere's the vulnerability, but
just sometimes showing up is ishalf the battle, and just
knowing that you're there andeven if you don't know what to
say, say I love you, give him ahug.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
That's one thing that I've been trying to uh to
implement as a dad here recentlyis instead of uh you know, not
to be a pun intended here butinstead of ramping up the uh,
the energy and the and the umyou know, if my kids get upset,
then I'm getting upset and mywife's getting upset instead of,
(33:03):
instead of ramping up thatenergy, getting down on their
level and instead of coming downon them, asking them and being
curious and saying, well, what'sgoing on?
You know what.
What's going on, what's causingyou to have this reaction or to
have this emotion?
I've really been trying tofocus on that lately.
Both my wife and I have beendoing that, and it's created a
(33:25):
more peaceful home, but it'salso allowed us to get to know
our kids on a more of anemotional level about what
they're dealing with, and Ithink that's super key.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, there's the great Will Ferrell in the movie
Old School, when he's in histighty-whities in the locker
room banging his locker and he'syelling.
I'm going to keep our composureLike that usually does not
bring peace for people right, asmuch as it's funny and gets a
giggle out of us.
And you know my, my wife, is alot more calm at times than I am
.
Same and you know, being thecompetitive and sometimes
(34:00):
impatient person which I think,interviewing over 300 dads and I
think actually you're going tobe episode 300.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Oh my goodness, wow, I feel so privileged.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, you get a free t-shirt and a bowl of soup.
I'll make sure that's sent toyou.
I'll hold you to it.
I will hold you to it.
I know you will, um, but it's,it's, uh, it's, it's a reminder.
I tell a lot of people who Iinterview with, like you don't
need a podcast to have theseconversations, you just need a
little bit of time and call abuddy, call their dad, saying
hey, dude, if you're you'restruggling with this, or how did
(34:32):
you deal when you did this?
And and realize that none of ushave it figured out?
And, uh, what, we're trying toget better, we're trying to be a
best version of ourselves, andif you're freaking, have a bad
day, then don't let one bad daylead to two bad days, and two
bad days lead to a bad week.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It's funny you say that Cause you know we, you know
this, but we recently wentthrough the book what's it Like
to Be on the Other Side of Me,from Ryan Leak Asking those
questions of your spouse andeven of your kids and of your
close friends what's it like tobe my son?
What's it like to be my wife?
You'll be surprised at theanswers that you, that you get
and when you truly hold up amirror to who you are as a dad
and as a friend and as a spouse.
(35:16):
It's.
I think it's a good practice togo through.
It keeps you humble, keeps youhonest.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
If you feel comfortable sharing.
What was the biggest thing thatsurprised you about what your
kids said and then what yourwife said.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Oh gosh, my kids said that that I was a fun dad and
that I'm always there, andthat's obviously what I want to
hear.
I'd love to hear that.
My wife said that sometimesit's difficult to be on the
other side of me because of,maybe, some lack of
(35:51):
communication.
I'm a, I'm a big guy.
We went through disc profilesyesterday.
I don't know if you're familiarwith this, but I'm a.
I'm a heavy on the D side.
Obviously, being, uh, being ina leadership role, uh, as well
as an eye and uh, you know,communicating is comes, comes
difficult to me sometimes, justbecause I'm I'm the type of
person that's thinking ahead ina conversation.
(36:12):
I want somebody to get to thepoint faster, and I do that with
my wife a lot and she noticesthat.
So she brought that up andthat's something that I'm
working on.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
So very interesting.
Yeah, Actually I saw ProfessorPaul Yep.
Professor Paul Paul and I usedto work together at K-Force.
He said that yeah, please tellhim hi.
He's such a good dude, he'ssuch a good guy.
I think it's important.
So what Kyle's talking about,though, we saw a speaker at a I
(36:47):
think it was TechServe event.
Ryan Leak spoke, fantasticspeaker.
He has a book called what's itlike to be on the other side of
me.
Is that the book?
It's called yep, yeah, and justa question to ask.
It's like we really want toknow hey, how are we being?
Are we going to check our ego?
Are we going to ask, um, our,maybe our parents, our friends,
our employees, our kids, ourwife, and sometimes that the
(37:10):
truth.
We might not want to hear it,but it's sometimes you do want
to hear it If you really want towork on yourself and be a
better version of yourself andbe a better dad and better
husband and better um.
You know, actually a story Idon't know if I've shared you
this, kyle like when I first gotinto this coaching speaking
podcast journey, you know, Ithink I didn't realize, like I'd
(37:31):
never, I don't think myidentity was so tied to my time
at k-force.
Um, I tried to be remove myselffrom that, but like when I,
when I left and then I wrote thebook started the podcast that
became my new identity.
I was so excited about, I wasso excited to tell people about
it and it was so fun tointerview with people and I was
so excited to like, oh, you guys, you know, sharing episodes and
.
And then when I the coachingjourney found me and I didn't
(37:52):
mean to get into this journeyand I truly believe it's a
calling um, yeah it, 100 it is.
And I remember one time Istarted like coaching my wife
and my kids without knowing it,and uh, I, I.
At times I remember like someof my friends were like almost
like not treating me differently, but I could saw like it just
(38:13):
seemed off.
And I remember talking to mywife and she's like can I give
you some feedback?
And I'm like sure, I said Iknow that you're excited about
what you're doing, but we wantCasey back.
And I was like, wait what?
And she's like we don't want tobe coached, we want you to be
our dad, our husband, our friend.
And I'm like, oh, I didn'trealize I was doing it.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
You know, like my wife and I have had those same
discussions.
You know, hey, I'm, I'm notyour employee.
I might you know our kids arenot your employees.
Like we need, we need dad, weneed, we need.
You know, I need my husband andI need you to be supportive and
to be loving and and all ofthose things.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
And yeah, yeah, I've had those discussions too I
think that's why I like if I'mgoing to be, you know,
encouraging people to bevulnerable, encouraging people
to be humble, and that's like I.
I always like the opportunitywhen I get a lead by example and
air myself out and say likelisten, just because I'm the
host doesn't mean I got.
I got issues too, you know, andI'm very grateful that my wife
(39:11):
had the you know courage to tellme that.
And there's times I've done thesame thing to her.
But, like it's just, I wouldremind dads when we go through
those times.
It's not always easy to hearbecause sometimes that hits our
ego.
But keep that thing checked.
It's amazing the growth you canhave when you keep that thing
checked.
Okay, what you can have whenyou keep that thing checked,
(39:36):
okay.
So, as we think about your busylife with soccer and gymnastics
and tumbling and work and allthis crazy stuff, like good
stuff, but as you and your wifethink about for you, you guys,
as you're raising these kids,what are the values that are
like, if we had to think aboutthat, you know that when people
think of the ramp is they'regoing to think of these, these
(39:57):
three things that come to reallymind.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Uh, great question.
So for me it's, it's leading.
Everything that we do should bedone in love.
You know that that our actionsand our words, um, come from a
loving place.
Uh, even Even in times ofdisagreement, even in times
where we may not see eye to eye,you know that person that's on
(40:21):
the other side of thatconversation still knows that
you love them, that you'recoming from a good place.
And that's number one.
Number two obviously you knowfaith is big for us,
spirituality is big for us.
Number two obviously faith isbig for us, spirituality is big
for us.
You know that's.
(40:49):
That's obviously what I wantpeople to remember me, for is
someone that that loved God,loved his family and seek to be
a servant rather than to beserved.
And the third is, like I saidearlier, leading with integrity,
doing what we're saying we'regoing to do, we're going to
follow through on ourcommitments and we're going to
be the people that other peopleare curious about.
What's different about Kyle,what's different about Danielle,
what's different about Nandenand Timley and Micah and Quinn?
(41:13):
There's something unique aboutthem.
That's what I want for ourfamily.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Love it.
Those are solid dude, solid tothink about, solid to lead with,
and you do those three thingswell.
It's going to be positivecultures, no matter where they
end up.
So how does someone get intothe wide world of staffing?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
I think I've asked that question a hundred times
throughout my career and I'vebeen asked that question.
That's a good question.
I got into the mortgagebusiness after I got out of
school in the early 2000s.
2005 was when I got myundergraduate degree and my dad
(42:01):
was in the mortgage business fora long time.
So I said I think I'll try thatout.
And I tried that out for a fewyears.
It was great.
I worked for a regional mortgagebank down here in Texas by the
name of Cornerstone, which isnow Cornerstone Home Lending
Great people, and then spentsome time on the wholesale side
with Chase selling to brokercustomers in Colorado and
(42:24):
California, which, in 2008, wasa great time to be in that
business, but was actually oneof our top salespeople but ended
up getting caught in areduction of force at that time
due to the market and I had afriend that was was in the
business and said hey, you need,you need to come over here and
(42:44):
check out this, this staffingthing.
I was like staffing, what?
What do you?
What do you mean?
He said, well, you know, we're,I'm working for a company
called Technisource,technisource.
Okay, and I ended up gettingintroduced to my main man,
justin Thomason, who brought meinto the industry, spent many
(43:05):
years with him at Matrixactually, which is no longer
Matrix but got into the world ofIT staffing back in 2008,
october of 2008, and ended upperforming well in our national
recruiting center here in Dallas, which, technosaurus, ended up
becoming Ronstad which if youknow anything about staffing,
(43:27):
it's one of the big gorillas onthe block and from there went
and had a great 12-year run atMatrix as a recruiter and
account exec and moved intorecruiting management and then
leading a fairly large team ofstaff and professionals for our
(43:48):
central region there at Matrixfor a few years and then now
here in 2024, landed at Tier 4Group.
Similar to you, you knowrelationship with Robert
Bouchard, who's our COO.
I worked together for quite afew years at Matrix and
introduced me to the great BetsyRobinson and you know it's been
(44:11):
a great ride over the last goshalmost nine months here Just
getting again ramped up andgetting to know people here and
our clients and the landscape ofthings here in the Midwest and
the Southwest for us.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
So for people who've never heard of Tier four,
they're like connect for likevideo, like the game, like no,
no, not connect for tier four.
So if, if people want to learnmore about tier four, they want
to learn more about Kyle or theteam like share, share with our
audience.
I mean, I know what you guys do, but I want to hear you say it
Like tell, tell us a little bitabout Tier 4.
How can people learn more aboutways to support you, whether
(44:56):
you're a candidate looking for ajob or a client looking to
bring on great talent?
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Yeah, you can visit us at tier4groupcom.
Read up on us there.
We have a very big and growingpresence out there on LinkedIn
as well.
We're big on the social sellingaspect and being out in front
of our clients, but alsovolunteering in the community.
We're big on the social sellingaspect and being out in front
of our clients, but alsovolunteering in the community.
We're big on that.
We're big on women anddiversity and tech, which is a
(45:23):
big platform for us.
Obviously, betsy is boardpresident for WIT there in
Atlanta and, yeah, those are thetwo main platforms that you can
find us.
Me personally, you can reach meat kylerampy, at tier4groupcom,
and I love the team that I getthe privilege to lock arms with
(45:43):
every single day.
Just a great group of people.
They're relationship focused,focused on doing the right
things, treating people theright way and and ultimately,
you know, chasing chasingrelationships and not deals, as
as Casey would say.
So you know we're we're more ofa boutique firm, but we're
growing and we've got big growthplans over the next few years.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Love it Real quick, just cause I want to make sure
you said I love the work youguys do from a community
perspective, which is spot on.
If people don't know what WITis in Atlanta, tell us a little
bit about WIT.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, it's Women in Technology.
So, as you may or may not know,women are an underserved
community in tech still even tothis day, and so a big focus for
us is to get more women intotechnology roles, into
technology leadership roles,serving on more boards.
(46:40):
That's a big gap in ourindustry, and something we're
really committed to and focusedon is the diversity piece in
tech, so it's a big platform forus.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Love it.
I'm going to make sure women intechnology is tagged when this
comes out so that we give themsome love and hopefully more
people can go specifically dadsor daughters or if dads have you
know spouse out there thatwants to get back into
technology and encourage them tolearn more about that
organization.
I know I know Betsy's, I think,on the board of WIT.
That's right.
She's a lead by example.
(47:15):
Besides LinkedIn being a spotyou are very active on, is there
another social platform that ifanybody wants to connect with
you, you might be, or isLinkedIn the best one?
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, linkedin would be the best one.
I know you're a big proponentof connecting all platforms and
I'm moving in that direction,but I'm out there on Instagram.
You can find me at KGR9, Ibelieve is my tag out there, and
you'll see a lot more personalthan business out there.
But most of what I put outthere is tied to our kids and
(47:53):
what they're involved in.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
So cool, All right.
Well, my man, it's now time togo into the lightning round,
where I go random Again, like Ishare with all my guests.
This is where I show you thenegative hits.
I've taken too many hits incollege not bong hits, but
football hits.
It's your job to answer thesequestions as quickly as you can.
It's my job to try to get agiggle out of you and me.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Okay, I'm ready, true or false.
You were the only HardenSimmons soccer player to score
on a bicycle kick from midfield.
Completely false.
Okay, true or false.
You're the only Harden Simmonsplayer to score seven goals in a
game and then streak aftercelebration.
(48:37):
How did you hear about that?
Speaker 2 (48:40):
No, just kidding, Completely false.
I was on the record books forbeing one of the top assist men
of all time.
I don't know if I'm still onthat list or not, but I was at
one point within the last six toeight years or so.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
So you're the John Stockton of soccer.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
That's right.
That's a great reference.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
If we went into your phone right now, what would be
the one genre of music thatwould completely surprise your
team?
You listen to.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
I don't know if it would surprise them, but we're
real big on Forrest Frank aroundhere.
He's a Christian kind of R&Brapper rapper artist and we're
taking the kids to go see himfor the second time next month
here in Fort Worth, so we'relooking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
There we go.
Tell me the last book you read.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
There we go.
Tell me the last book you read.
Last book I read.
Well, I delve in and out ofyours quite a bit when the
relationship not the deal.
So I was reading that on theplane a couple of weeks ago.
I think the last book that Ithat I read before that was was
the Ryan Leak book, and thenanother great leadership book
that I've read is Turn the ShipAround.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
David Marquette.
Yep, David Marquette.
I have his second book I'mgoing to read here Once I finish
.
I'm reading a book by JohnFeinstein.
Rest in peace, John Feinstein,Great and a former guest on the
podcast.
But if I came to your house fordinner tonight, what would we
have?
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Probably leftovers.
We just finished up pork chopsand we've got some leftover
spaghetti.
I've got in-laws coming in towntonight so we I don't know we
might be ordering in orsomething.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Sounds good, favorite comedy movie.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
It's got to be either Billy Madison or Happy Gilmore.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Okay, you and your wife are taking a vacation right
now.
No kids, where are we going?
Speaker 2 (50:43):
My wife would want to go back to New York.
She's a big fan of New YorkCity.
I can take about 48 hours of it.
If it were up to me, I'd begoing to the mountains.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Okay, blue Ridge Mountains, west Virginia.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
No, we'd be going to Colorado.
We'd probably be going to Vailor Breckenridge something like
that Sunshine State.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Okay, now, if there was to be a book written about
your life, tell me the title.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Work in progress.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Okay, I've actually other people have said that,
which I love.
Okay, now, kyle.
Work in progress.
Amazon can't print enoughcopies.
Barnes and Noble sold out,airports are sold out.
This fricking thing's frickingselling like hotcakes.
Everybody wants to read.
Work in progress.
So now Netflix is going to makea movie, but so my HBO, so my
paramount, they're all fightingfor it.
You're the casting director.
Who's going to star the one?
(51:42):
And only Kyle Rampey Can't beyou.
But who's going to start usingthis critically acclaimed, hit
new movie?
It's going to rock Ryan.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Reynolds minus the curse words.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Okay, ryan.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Reynolds.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Okay, and then last, the most important question Tell
me two words that woulddescribe your wife.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Oh, beautiful inside and out and true servant.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
We're going to call those hyphenated words.
That was five words, but we'regoing to give you a pass.
Lightning round is over.
We both giggled.
We'll call it a tie, but maybeI'll give you the nod because I
laughed first in my own joke.
Brother, it's been awesomegetting to know you.
I always tell everybody thatthe script is blank and, as you
can see, we have a full page ofnotes.
(52:31):
It's been really, really,really fun learning about you.
I'm I'll be thinking positivethoughts for you and and your
mom as she battles um cancer andand I and I hope that you guys
both can do can get to a spot offorgiveness and um wish you
nothing but the best.
I'm grateful our paths havecrossed and I think you and your
team at tier four havesomething special building and I
(52:51):
know you guys will continue tobuild.
But, um, it's really beenreally fun getting you know as a
dad and just talking life as adad, and I know that I hope that
your episode will positivelyimpact many other dads out there
just working hard to become theultimate quarterback or leader
of their home.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
So buddy same here, brother.
I appreciate the opportunity tobe on here and to to share some
of my story and and I lookforward to future conversations
with you awesome dude.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
Have a great weekend all right.
Well, hey everybody, it's Casey Jaycox with the
Quarterback Dadcast.
We're in season six and theseguests just keep on ramping up.
Y'all, that's my accent.
The tease, for our next guest,who sits in Texas and he was a
client of mine, still is aclient of mine.
He's become a friend of mine.
His name is Kyle Rampey.
He is the vice president of thecentral region of a fantastic
(00:23):
company called Tier 4.
Is the vice president of thecentral region of a fantastic
company called Tier 4.
It's a company I got introducedto by the one and only Robert
Bouchard, who I worked with foryears at K-Force, and then he
introduced me to the one andonly Betsy Robinson, who is a
fantastic CEO.
And I met Kyle, and Kyle isknown as the, I'd say, the
tattoo or the Pele of staffing.
He's a Hardin-Simmons, hardenedSimmons cowboy, a soccer
(00:47):
machine.
But that's not why we're havingKyle on today.
We're gonna have all Kyle on tohow, so we can learn how he's
working hard to become thatultimate quarterback or leader
of his household.
So, without further ado, mrRampey, welcome to the
quarterback dad cast thank you,mr Jaycox.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'm happy to be here.
I'll be, honest.
You've had professionalathletes on the on.
You've had titans of industry.
What am I doing here?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Well, I lost my contact for Hookup on Caps and
I'm hoping that this episodereally gets me that discount I
always wanted back.
Love it, love it.
No.
Joking aside, everybody, we'realready off to a great start.
Kyle everybody is someone Ireally enjoyed getting to know.
(01:35):
I think from a valuesperspective.
One of the things we talk aboutin this podcast is humility,
vulnerability and curiosity, andI think Kyle leads with those,
at least the Kyle that I know,which I think it's the Kyle that
everybody else knows.
But before we dive in too farbrother, tell me what are you
most grateful for as a dad today?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Lots of things, lots of little things, not to be too
cliche but just thankful to wakeup and have breath in my lungs
this morning.
Number one grateful to God thatI have this life that I've been
given with my wonderful wifeand our family, four beautiful
(02:15):
children that we've been blessedwith and get to do life with
great friends and family aroundus as well.
So those are the main thingsI'm grateful for today
especially on a good Friday.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
A hundred percent, I don't.
I don't think it's cliche atall.
I think it's why I always likestarting out episodes of
gratitude is to to slow peopledown, to remember these little
things Like you're notguaranteed the breath tomorrow,
you're not guaranteed our health, and so I think when we sit in
gratitude to start meetings orstart the day, it's amazing what
it does to your mindset and itchanges the way you're kind of
(02:50):
your outlook, and so I wouldencourage people, if you're not
starting with gratitude, do it.
See what happens.
And I've been doing gratitudework in my journal for four
years now and I literally haveretrained my brain.
I can't start the day withoutdoing it and I'm addicted to it
now.
But what I'm grateful for todayis I'm going to give a shout
(03:14):
out to both my kids.
One I've had to continue justto.
Seeing my son's growth as afreshman in college has been
blowing my mind every day.
I feel like there's justanother level of maturity I'm
seeing.
So I'm grateful for that andthose conversations.
And I'm grateful, then, for mydaughter Riley.
Um, uh, just uh, she got.
I got home yesterday.
I was at a work event and I gothome and she was studying for a
(03:35):
test.
And sometimes you know theteenage daughter you can go in.
Your dad's dad jumps in hey,right, I.
Sometimes you get the face oflike hey, beat it, nerd.
Uh, but luckily I, she was likehey dad, what's up?
How was golf?
You know what?
What'd you shoot?
What did you have fun?
And uh, just I'm grateful forthose little moments that, like,
you get to spend with your kidwhen and if they, if they give
(03:57):
you a little, just like in sales, like ask more questions and
watch what happens.
And the next thing, though, weI was studying for a big
chemistry test, but it was atleast 15 minutes that I'm
grateful for that.
Like, soon she'll be out of thehouse too, and I know I'm just
trying to really enjoy thosemoments because they're they're
going too fast, brother.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, you are.
You're on the opposite end ofthe spectrum than I am, my, my,
my days are longer than theyears are shorter right now, you
know, we have four that are 10and under at this point.
It is going by fast.
It seems like the time speedsup on us as we go, but yeah,
enjoying every moment and got afew years left on the runway.
(04:37):
But I know it's going to goquick.
I've been told that by numerouspeople.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
So true?
Well, you teased us with a fewmembers of the squad, and so the
theme of playing quarterbackbring us into the rampy huddle
and tell us how you and yourwife met, and then tell us about
each member of the squad.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, my wife and I met during my time out in the
big metropolis known as Abilene,texas, which, if you know
anything about West Texas, it isnot a big metropolis, there's
barely anything out there.
But yeah, we met while I wasout there my sophomore year at
Hardin-Simmons.
We actually were not dating atthe time, we were just friends.
(05:17):
We were each dating otherpeople at the time, ironically,
but we stayed in touch and yearslater, when we had both moved
back to the Dallas area, aboutfive years later, after I
graduated, we we met back up andthe rest, as they say, is
history.
We met back up.
I actually had an alumni eventthat I attended for for our
(05:39):
soccer program.
Some of the old soccer buddiesgot together and she ended up
showing up with my old collegeco-captain and, uh, I guess it
was.
It was written in the starsbecause, uh, or at least
somebody was watching over us,because, uh, very, very random,
random meetup back then.
But uh, yeah, we enjoy tellingpeople that story because, uh,
(05:59):
it's a little little off kilter.
But yeah, I think uh, it was,it was there was definitely a
plan there.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Serendipity.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, absolutely Uh.
Great restaurant in New York.
By the way, I actually saw KobeBryant there one time.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
If you can believe it .
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, we'll tell.
We'll tell that story foranother day.
Um, but we, uh, we ended upgetting married in December of
2012.
So we're going on 13 years now,12 and a half years, and in
that time had four beautifulkids Landon is my oldest, at 10
years old.
Tenley is our eight-year-old.
(06:38):
Got Micah, who's mysix-year-old and is a ball full
of energy.
And Quinn, who rules the roostaround here.
She's our four-year-old and isa ball full of energy.
And, uh, and quinn who, whorules the roost around here,
she's our four-year-old okay anduh, you being a soccer beast?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
um, he's wearing shin guards right now.
Everybody, um, but being asoccer beast, are all the kids
into soccer?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
uh, two of them are.
My two boys are big into it Fortheir age groups.
They're both at a competitivelevel already and obviously that
warms my heart and love to seeit.
I've never pushed the sport onthem.
I introduced it to them, but Ialways want them to do what they
(07:22):
love and what they'repassionate about and you know
what.
They were introduced to it andthey've just taken it on with
gusto and they've done reallywell.
I'm proud of them.
They're my source of constantentertainment both on the field
and off the field.
But extremely proud of them andmy daughters.
(07:43):
My oldest just got intovolleyball and does some
tumbling on the side, somegymnastics.
Then we introduced ourfour-year-old to gymnastics as
well.
They were actually watching alittle bit of the NCAA
championships going on thisweekend here in Fort Worth on
the TV last night.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
There you go.
The on the tv last night.
There you go.
I'd say, man, when my daughterwas in gymnastics as a young, it
was the most stressful thingwatching gymnastics,
specifically when they have themclimb the rope for the first
time.
Oh, yeah I'm like is is it meor is there a lack of common
sense with this rope idea?
It's like, hey, let's have afive-year-old climb a rope 30
feet in the air with no net.
(08:22):
Like what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
but in this little, in this little, you know little
little girl that's gonna be downthere catching them right.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, I'm like maybe, maybe I'm the idiot here
everybody, but maybe there's agymnastics people out there you
can help me, like, learn what mywhat?
I might be off on that one, butthankfully my daughter got into
basketball, successful.
Okay, it's time to flexcapacitor, turn back the you
(08:50):
know, the back of the future.
I want you to go back in timethere, mr Rampey, and I want to
learn about what was life likegrowing up for you and talk
about the impact that yourparents had on you.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Now that you're a dad , oh man, I don't know if we
have enough time on this show togo through everything.
Uh, so I was born in uh in FortWorth here in Texas.
Uh spent my my early childhoodyears here in the kind of the
mid cities area over in uh,hearst and and Colleyville.
(09:22):
Over in that area and my mother, whose name is Cassie, and my
father, troy, were married for afew years before I was born and
actually my dad was able toadopt my older brother and older
sister, who were from anothermarriage that my mother had
(09:43):
previously, who were fromanother marriage that my mother
had previously, and so we allwere living together in
Colleyville during my earlyyears and they ended up
divorcing around.
I was between four and fiveyears old at that time and ended
up moving with my mother up toKansas and that's why you don't
hear the Southern drawl so much.
(10:03):
Got a lot of Midwestern roots inmy family.
My dad's from Kansas't hear theSouthern drawl so much.
Got a lot of Midwestern rootsin my family.
My dad's from Kansas.
I have a lot of extended familyfrom that area and from
Missouri Lake, of the Ozarksarea, and my mother's from
Kansas as well, so I spent acouple of years up there, and
then my dad was able to gaincustody of us kids a couple of
(10:23):
years later and transitioned usback to the back to the DFW area
, and that's where I spent themajority of my youth.
Growing up was in the DFW area.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Okay, so curiosity alarms are going off here, sir,
so we share that in common.
My parents got divorced when Iwas in college.
It wasn't easy to go through.
My dad passed away now, inDecember 29th 2021.
But I see I definitely saw theimpact of it having.
I think it was harder on mysister than me, but I end up.
(10:56):
I don't think I don't know if Ishared with you, but me and my
wife ended up taking care of mydad later in life before he
passed away.
But as you think about that,the divorce impact for you at a
young age, was it something youremember at all?
Was it a challenging time?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
That's a great question.
You know, there are bits andpieces of my childhood that I
remember, and some that I don'tremember, I think subconsciously
, maybe, block some things out.
To be honest with you, I don'tremember my biological parents
being together that much, justbecause I was so young.
(11:34):
I do remember some of thestrife afterwards and the
transition to my dad gettingremarried and have a great
relationship with my stepmom,who I call my mom to this day.
Her name is Sherry and um, andwe had a great upbringing and uh
but yeah it doesn't comewithout its challenges.
There are.
There are generational rippleeffects to divorce.
(11:57):
And that is something that mywife and I have have talked
about even before we got marriedthat the uh, the D word it that
the D word, it's not an option,you know, not an option in our
house, and we're looking tobreak generational curses and to
create new habits and create,you know, not have the same
habits and hangups and hurtsthat have gotten us to this
(12:20):
point.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I love it, dude.
My wife and I said the samething.
We just had 26 years,congratulations.
Yeah, hard to believe, dude.
My wife and I said the samething we just had 26 years,
congratulations.
Yeah, hard to believe, dude.
I mean it's not hard to believe, but sometimes it's like, wow,
um, but as I, because I comeclose to the ripe old age of 50,
when I can't wait for the AARPdiscount and if you're looking
for, okay, so mom, so dadremarried, our mom and dad still
(12:45):
with mom, or biological mom,stepmom and dad still with us.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Still all with us.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yes, Okay, and what did?
What did everybody do for a job, out of curiosity?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
That's a great question.
Mother bounced around anddifferent things throughout her
career in customer service andretail and even working in some
restaurants and diners and thosethings.
And then my father was actuallyin the mortgage business for
gosh more than 40 years, startedoff in banking and then got
(13:20):
into mortgage banking andworking in the mortgage
insurance industry with a coupleof different companies, but
ended up retiring a few yearsago and had a very, very
successful career.
He ended up being a regionalvice president for a large
mortgage company mortgageinsurance company here in the US
.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Solid.
Do we have brothers and sisters?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
We do.
Yes, I've got none of them arefull blooded all half brothers
and sisters and one adoptedbrother.
Don't don't see them that way,I see them as just brother and
sister.
But just to give you a littlebit of background, I've got an
older brother and Jason, oldersister and Amy, younger brother
and Tyler, and another youngeradopted brother and Tanner.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And are they all in Texas area?
They're not.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
No Oldest brother is in Kansas.
Amy is here in Texas out inLubbock, Go Texas Tech Guns up
and my younger brother, Tyler Iactually don't know where he's
at these days.
I believe he's still up in theMidwest somewhere.
And then my youngest brother,Tanner, is here in the DFW area.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Very cool when you were growing up?
Did you ever stop and think itwas different than any other of
your buddies?
Or was it something like youknow, this is our family and
this is our, our, our normal.
We're going to make it normal,or was that ever a challenge?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, a little bit of both, uh, just because I did
travel back and forth to see mymother from Texas to Kansas and
back quite a bit, um.
And then obviously, uh, mystepmother uh came into the
marriage with my father with nochildren, and so you know that
had a little bit of a differentdynamic.
(15:10):
And then obviously we adoptedmy younger brother, tanner at
birth, brought him home at theage of 12.
So yeah, there was a unquote,as you would imagine, but it
(15:31):
didn't come without itschallenges.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
What were some of the hardest parts.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
If you feel comfortable sharing, yeah, I
think for me, the transitionfrom my mother and father being
married to divorced and thentransitioning from Kansas to
Texas, that was an interestingtransition and we can delve more
(15:57):
into my time in Kansas duringthat time period, maybe a little
bit, which will help set thestage.
But yeah, my older brother andsister were adopted by my father
.
They have no blood relation tomy father, to be honest with you
, but took on his last name.
He ended up gaining fullcustody of them and there were
(16:19):
some roadblocks that we had tonavigate when my father and my
stepmother got married and theydid the best that they could at
that time you know they were myolder brother and older sister
were navigating their feelingsabout what was going on with my
mom at the time and in the newmarriage between my dad and our
(16:40):
stepmom.
And and, uh, and and that andall of that.
And then, um, I was, I was kindof the middle child or the
youngest child at that point uh,just taking it all in and
watching how things were playingout.
Um, so that I think that shapedwho I am a little bit.
It shaped the leader that I amtoday.
And and, uh, how I try to be alead with, with empathy and
(17:01):
understanding, uh, rather than,you know, being a heavy handed
dad or a heavy handed leader andum, so, yeah it it.
It had its road, its road bumps, uh, throughout that time, but
uh, but ultimately I think itshaped the man I am today and
helped me be a little bit moreunderstanding of of different
situations and different waysthat people grow up.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
That's great man.
It's good to reflect andsometimes you know, a lot of
times the guests I've had Kyle,they don't some reflect more
often than not, some don'treflect more often than not, and
so sometimes we have theseconversations.
It's like, wow, I haven'tthought about this in a while.
You mentioned, you know, someof the challenges that might
(17:45):
shed some more light.
Maybe I'd love to go into thatfor what you feel comfortable
sharing, like about the time inKansas and living with mom and
as you reflect back as a dad andthen moving back to Dallas,
like maybe talk about maybe somestories that really shaped you
as a young guy.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, you know that time period.
You know, as I stated, I kind ofgo in and out of different
memories here and there, but onething that really has stuck
with me during that time is mymother was going through some
really tough times in depression, navigated that.
(18:16):
It was very difficult for herhaving to move back home and to
transition into a new way oflife and actually during that
time period it was about mythird grade year I didn't go to
school for probably more than amonth, had a, had a tough time
(18:37):
getting me to school and uh,that that kind of kicked things
off to where, uh, you know,custody battle started to ensue
from that point and uh, and wasable to transition back to Texas
where I had a very caringteacher uh, mrs Mrs Carleen King
If she ever hears this she's uh, she made a huge impact on my
(18:57):
life at that time and uh, stillconnected to her to this day.
She's like another mom to me.
But, yeah, that was a difficulttime Not being able to see my
mother go through that struggleand then transitioning back to
quote unquote some more of anormal life during that time,
(19:18):
moving back to Texas.
So how?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
how did your dad and stepmom become aware that, hey,
kyle's living the life?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
he's watching Price is Right and Different Strokes,
and this third grade year is thebest ever.
Yeah, I think you know, theytraveled up to Kansas every so
often and there's one where Iwas living at the time and I
show up to the game and again,I'm about 10 years old at this
(20:12):
time, riding my bike to the gameby myself, and they said
where's your mother?
I said, well, she's at home.
She's not here.
I said you rode your bike allthe way to the game on your own.
I said, yeah, and so I playedthe game.
They were there.
It was great.
I remember them being there andthen, from that point forward, I
think it moved pretty quicklyto where the custody process got
(20:39):
kicked off and then started toplay out.
And so, yeah, you know, throughthrough that instance, but also
just through conversations thatI think my dad had with me at
the time about what's going on,you know how's how's school
going and being.
Even though he wasn't therephysically, he was still present
and having those conversationswith me at that time and, yeah,
(21:00):
it was just that that was, uh,that was a God thing that they
had come up from Texas to comesee me play that day, uh, and
noticed that that I was at thegame by myself.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, my dad, um, when he was alive, he struggled
with depression for years and soI learned a lot about it and it
was one of the hardest partsfor me to you know, I was a mid
twenties.
The hardest part aboutunderstanding depression was I
didn't understand it.
I was more of a hey, let's gosnap out of it, like, and I
(21:37):
learned a lot about empathyabout that.
Wow, you know, I'm verygrateful that I I I'm so far
have not had to deal withdepression.
I mean, I've downed asia, like,just like anybody.
But when my dad would go down,he would go down, and I mean, I
had to take him to psychiatricwards and you want to talk about
some scary environments, um,and just his confidence was just
done like rocked, and then he'dcome out of it, um, so, uh, you
(22:02):
know, at the end of his life,before he passed away, it was
like it was, you know, thedementia kicked in, but it was a
freaking brutal journey, butlike, but I don't know.
I just share that with youbecause I, I I've had experience
going through a parent withdementia, I mean, sorry, with
depression.
And, um, is mom better now?
Is she still facing some ofthese challenges, or is she?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
It's a good.
It's a good question.
You know I you're you'rehitting on a nerve right now and
you're you're good at that,casey.
Um, yeah, I have.
You know I talked about hurtsand hangups and habits.
Um, I have a lot of hangups andhurts with, with mom, and those
are things that I'm actuallyworking through right now is, I
(22:45):
think there's a little bit ofunderlying anger with, you know,
lack of mom being there for themajority of my life, and those
are things that I'm having towork through.
She's going through cancertreatment currently and not
being there for that is a littleunsettling.
But yeah, uh, but yeah, she'sstill with us.
Uh, those are, those are thingsthat are on my agenda and, uh,
(23:05):
I will I'm not going to use aswear word I will uh be getting,
you know, be getting with herto talk through some of those
things, especially, you know,god forbid she, she passes, you
know, in the in the near future.
I would hate to leave thingsunsaid and let her know that
there's forgiveness there, eventhough there's been hurt.
(23:25):
There's forgiveness there and.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I know that I need that as well, Wow dude, I did
not know that and I appreciateyou sharing.
A couple of things came to mindStories as you said that I read
a book on forgiveness by a guynamed Rich Case that was
introduced to me by one of myformer executives I think it's
by Rich Case in my late 30s andI learned that forgiveness takes
(23:48):
me, reconciliation takes youand me.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
And it was a really powerful lesson I learned for me
.
I'm not saying it's going to befor everybody, but um, uh, you
know, and I, and then I thinkabout when, my when I was really
, really frustrated with my dadand the dementia, and I mean my
dad accused me of stealing allof his money to build my house
at one point.
Well, you know, and that didnot never happened to everybody,
(24:13):
it was a dementia talking, butlike having to like forgive and
realize that that this is thedisease that has taken him, not
my dad.
And I remember there's a guynamed tony davis who I
interviewed.
Um, he's a coach locally in ourcommunity.
His mom had dementia too.
I remember one day he challengedme he goes, he's in there
somewhere and it was just like apunch in the face.
(24:35):
I was like, god dang it, whydid you say that?
And I felt guilty.
And then I was like, but he'sright.
And so then I I went from forme, changing my perspective and
mindset.
I'm that I don't, I don't haveto go see my dad, I go, I get to
see my dad.
And that's like the last, likeI'd say, six weeks of his life.
I saw him probably five days aweek.
Um, this was like during theheight of covid.
(24:57):
So, like you know, it'lldifferent, different times
because like we're masks andcraziness and all this crap, but
, um, it's, it's, it was what Ineeded to do.
But I think, like if I didn'tgo through the challenges before
, I wouldn't have been where I'mat now with him.
That's right, you know.
And so I think, like everything, like she pointed god's plan
god does have a plan.
I totally believe that you know.
(25:19):
It's the journey you're on.
So I'm, I'll pray for you guys,that I hope that you can.
You can get to that forgivenessspot and your mom can get to
the spot and hopefully she canforgive herself.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
And I appreciate that not to get too religious on the
show, but you know, I believein a God who is forgiving and
you know, who am I not to beforgiving of the person who gave
me life, and so, yeah, it'ssomething that is a personal
battle and a struggle, but it'spart of who I am.
It's it shaped how I parent andand actually the type of spouse
(25:51):
that I am as well, and I'mthankful for it, I'm grateful
for it, I'm grateful for her.
But, yeah, there's there's somethings on my on to-do list for
sure.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, well, um, and I , yeah, don't, don't sweat, I
would say this show we've gotspiritual more than religious.
I don't want to open aPandora's box, but I think I'm
definitely a spiritual guy thanan organized religion.
Actually.
And not to get too off track,and this is going to put the
other way.
Have you seen the righteousgemstones?
And not to get too off track,and this is going to put the
other way.
Have you seen the righteousgemstones?
(26:21):
I have not.
Have you heard about it?
I have.
It is fricking hilarious.
And so there's.
I probably just offended half ofmy audience by saying this, but
you have a little bit of.
You have a common like, have alittle bit of sense of humor,
it's.
It definitely is kind of pushthe envelope on some things, but
it is.
It is.
I don't know.
I'm like laughing my ass off.
My wife and I are like laughing.
Now it doesn't impact myrelationship with God or
(26:42):
spirituality I have.
I still pray every morning, Istill do Bible scripture every
morning, I still sometimes Idon't know what the hell they
mean, but sometimes I do, andbut anyway, I digress.
Okay, wow, that was a lot, dude.
So I'd love to to go, I'd loveto understand.
Like you know you are from whatI've got to know you, you're
(27:03):
very hands-on dad, um, uh,obviously, solid marriage, um,
good communicator, uh.
But you went through some rockytimes.
Like, have you ever thoughtback like, wow, where where did
that come from?
Is there a story?
Or like the values maybe yourmom and stepdad or dad and
(27:23):
stepdad mom taught you that youcan think of that rally.
When I was growing up, I reallylearned that boom.
These three things thatimpacted me now as a dad.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I uh, you know, came,came to know the Lord when I was
uh eight and and that wasactually something that was
driven by not only my dad butreally my stepmom was to get our
family into church and I'mgrateful to both of them and
specifically to her for that,for introducing that into our
(27:53):
family, into our life.
And you know, that was aturning point in my life at that
time and you know, obviouslyyou have your ups and downs even
from that point.
But yeah, that was the, that wasthe turning point was was when
my, when my dad and my stepmomgained full custody and and kind
(28:14):
of provided a little bit morenormalcy and stability in my
life, and you know that thathelped shape a lot of who I am
today and and how I parent.
Um, there are always thingsthat that need to be improved
upon.
Uh, you know, I, I would sayI'm a decent communicator, but
uh, my, my wife will be thefirst to tell you that there are
things that need to be brushedup on, for sure.
(28:35):
Um, but yeah, it's, it's, it'sbeen quite the journey it's.
But yeah, when I, when Itransitioned to move in with my
dad and my and my step-mom, thatthat was kind of the turning
point in my life and and I don'tI don't want to say it and put
me on the complete straight andnarrow but it's, it's shaped a
(28:55):
lot of who I am today.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
So, besides faith being a value and obviously
something that really impactedyou, what, what were other some
core values that dad taught youand step mom and maybe mom
taught you that that were likehey, in the rampy household.
These are the must haves You'regoing to be good at A and B.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Absolutely Well.
Number one is you know, you,you let your yes be yes and your
no be no, and there's no,there's no in between.
If you say you're going to dosomething, you do it and you
lead with with integrity.
You, you follow through.
And what your commitments are,uh, no matter what.
And um and you and you and youshow your true character.
Um and uh, my dad worked reallyhard, traveled a lot, um and uh
(29:37):
, my dad worked really hard,traveled a lot, um, but you know
, when he was, when he waspresent, he was, he was the
greatest dad I could have askedfor.
Uh, same goes for my mom.
She, she, uh, put a lot of workinto our household.
Uh, the laundry was always keptup with, the house was always
clean, um, but you know, sheinstilled a lot of hard work in
(30:01):
us as well.
And you know my dad always ledby example.
And that was another big keytrait that he always said was
don't just lead by your words,lead by example and let people
know who you are by the way thatyou act, by the way that you
treat them, and and not just bywords.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Can you think of a story of how he did that?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Oh gosh, um, you know I don't know that I have a
specific one that comes off thetop of my head right now, but
just seeing the amount of workthat my dad put in, not only you
know, to his, to his job, butjust, you know, traveling back
in from from business trips toget back to my ball games and
(30:49):
and to be a, to be a coach, tobe involved on a daily and
weekly basis, to consistentlyget us to church every week and
just the day in, day out,investment of being the leader
of the household, was theexample that I remember and
(31:10):
there are plenty of times that Ican remember that my dad was
just there.
I mean, he just you know.
I think back to my senior yearin high school.
Uh, when we were we werefighting for a state
championship in in soccer and uh, you know, my dad was there for
the last game and uh, actuallycame down on the field when we
(31:32):
lost.
I was actually one of thepenalty takers that missed that
day and I was gutted and my dadcame out of the stands and came
out onto the field and just puthis arms around me and said I'm
proud of you and walked off thefield with me, and those are the
types of things that I rememberjust being being present and
(31:54):
making sure that he knows thatyou know that he's proud of me,
no matter what, and that's thetype of type of dad that I that
I seek to be.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, that's cool, that's you know.
There's the episode that cameout this week.
It's like his dad reminded meTim, glennie, shout out to Tim.
He's like your parent, yourkids are always watching.
And I mean, the one thing thatwe as dads have in common is
we're all flawed, we're so farfrom perfect.
But I think just like beingpresent to know, like when you
do mess up, you own it orthere's things you want to get
(32:27):
better at, you ask for help, butthere's the vulnerability, but
just sometimes showing up is ishalf the battle, and just
knowing that you're there andeven if you don't know what to
say, say I love you, give him ahug.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
That's one thing that I've been trying to uh to
implement as a dad here recentlyis instead of uh you know, not
to be a pun intended here butinstead of ramping up the uh,
the energy and the and the umyou know, if my kids get upset,
then I'm getting upset and mywife's getting upset instead of,
(33:03):
instead of ramping up thatenergy, getting down on their
level and instead of coming downon them, asking them and being
curious and saying, well, what'sgoing on?
You know what.
What's going on, what's causingyou to have this reaction or to
have this emotion?
I've really been trying tofocus on that lately.
Both my wife and I have beendoing that, and it's created a
(33:25):
more peaceful home, but it'salso allowed us to get to know
our kids on a more of anemotional level about what
they're dealing with, and Ithink that's super key.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, there's the great Will Ferrell in the movie
Old School, when he's in histighty-whities in the locker
room banging his locker and he'syelling.
I'm going to keep our composureLike that usually does not
bring peace for people right, asmuch as it's funny and gets a
giggle out of us.
And you know my, my wife, is alot more calm at times than I am
.
Same and you know, being thecompetitive and sometimes
(34:00):
impatient person which I think,interviewing over 300 dads and I
think actually you're going tobe episode 300.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Oh my goodness, wow, I feel so privileged.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, you get a free t-shirt and a bowl of soup.
I'll make sure that's sent toyou.
I'll hold you to it.
I will hold you to it.
I know you will, um, but it's,it's, uh, it's, it's a reminder.
I tell a lot of people who Iinterview with, like you don't
need a podcast to have theseconversations, you just need a
little bit of time and call abuddy, call their dad, saying
hey, dude, if you're you'restruggling with this, or how did
(34:32):
you deal when you did this?
And and realize that none of ushave it figured out?
And, uh, what, we're trying toget better, we're trying to be a
best version of ourselves, andif you're freaking, have a bad
day, then don't let one bad daylead to two bad days, and two
bad days lead to a bad week.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It's funny you say that Cause you know we, you know
this, but we recently wentthrough the book what's it Like
to Be on the Other Side of Me,from Ryan Leak Asking those
questions of your spouse andeven of your kids and of your
close friends what's it like tobe my son?
What's it like to be my wife?
You'll be surprised at theanswers that you, that you get
and when you truly hold up amirror to who you are as a dad
and as a friend and as a spouse.
(35:16):
It's.
I think it's a good practice togo through.
It keeps you humble, keeps youhonest.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
If you feel comfortable sharing.
What was the biggest thing thatsurprised you about what your
kids said and then what yourwife said.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Oh gosh, my kids said that that I was a fun dad and
that I'm always there, andthat's obviously what I want to
hear.
I'd love to hear that.
My wife said that sometimesit's difficult to be on the
other side of me because of,maybe, some lack of
(35:51):
communication.
I'm a, I'm a big guy.
We went through disc profilesyesterday.
I don't know if you're familiarwith this, but I'm a.
I'm a heavy on the D side.
Obviously, being, uh, being ina leadership role, uh, as well
as an eye and uh, you know,communicating is comes, comes
difficult to me sometimes, justbecause I'm I'm the type of
person that's thinking ahead ina conversation.
(36:12):
I want somebody to get to thepoint faster, and I do that with
my wife a lot and she noticesthat.
So she brought that up andthat's something that I'm
working on.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
So very interesting.
Yeah, Actually I saw ProfessorPaul Yep.
Professor Paul Paul and I usedto work together at K-Force.
He said that yeah, please tellhim hi.
He's such a good dude, he'ssuch a good guy.
I think it's important.
So what Kyle's talking about,though, we saw a speaker at a I
(36:47):
think it was TechServe event.
Ryan Leak spoke, fantasticspeaker.
He has a book called what's itlike to be on the other side of
me.
Is that the book?
It's called yep, yeah, and justa question to ask.
It's like we really want toknow hey, how are we being?
Are we going to check our ego?
Are we going to ask, um, our,maybe our parents, our friends,
our employees, our kids, ourwife, and sometimes that the
(37:10):
truth.
We might not want to hear it,but it's sometimes you do want
to hear it If you really want towork on yourself and be a
better version of yourself andbe a better dad and better
husband and better um.
You know, actually a story Idon't know if I've shared you
this, kyle like when I first gotinto this coaching speaking
podcast journey, you know, Ithink I didn't realize, like I'd
(37:31):
never, I don't think myidentity was so tied to my time
at k-force.
Um, I tried to be remove myselffrom that, but like when I,
when I left and then I wrote thebook started the podcast that
became my new identity.
I was so excited about, I wasso excited to tell people about
it and it was so fun tointerview with people and I was
so excited to like, oh, you guys, you know, sharing episodes and
.
And then when I the coachingjourney found me and I didn't
(37:52):
mean to get into this journeyand I truly believe it's a
calling um, yeah it, 100 it is.
And I remember one time Istarted like coaching my wife
and my kids without knowing it,and uh, I, I.
At times I remember like someof my friends were like almost
like not treating me differently, but I could saw like it just
(38:13):
seemed off.
And I remember talking to mywife and she's like can I give
you some feedback?
And I'm like sure, I said Iknow that you're excited about
what you're doing, but we wantCasey back.
And I was like, wait what?
And she's like we don't want tobe coached, we want you to be
our dad, our husband, our friend.
And I'm like, oh, I didn'trealize I was doing it.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
You know, like my wife and I have had those same
discussions.
You know, hey, I'm, I'm notyour employee.
I might you know our kids arenot your employees.
Like we need, we need dad, weneed, we need.
You know, I need my husband andI need you to be supportive and
to be loving and and all ofthose things.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
And yeah, yeah, I've had those discussions too I
think that's why I like if I'mgoing to be, you know,
encouraging people to bevulnerable, encouraging people
to be humble, and that's like I.
I always like the opportunitywhen I get a lead by example and
air myself out and say likelisten, just because I'm the
host doesn't mean I got.
I got issues too, you know, andI'm very grateful that my wife
(39:11):
had the you know courage to tellme that.
And there's times I've done thesame thing to her.
But, like it's just, I wouldremind dads when we go through
those times.
It's not always easy to hearbecause sometimes that hits our
ego.
But keep that thing checked.
It's amazing the growth you canhave when you keep that thing
checked.
Okay, what you can have whenyou keep that thing checked,
(39:36):
okay.
So, as we think about your busylife with soccer and gymnastics
and tumbling and work and allthis crazy stuff, like good
stuff, but as you and your wifethink about for you, you guys,
as you're raising these kids,what are the values that are
like, if we had to think aboutthat, you know that when people
think of the ramp is they'regoing to think of these, these
(39:57):
three things that come to reallymind.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Uh, great question.
So for me it's, it's leading.
Everything that we do should bedone in love.
You know that that our actionsand our words, um, come from a
loving place.
Uh, even Even in times ofdisagreement, even in times
where we may not see eye to eye,you know that person that's on
(40:21):
the other side of thatconversation still knows that
you love them, that you'recoming from a good place.
And that's number one.
Number two obviously you knowfaith is big for us,
spirituality is big for us.
Number two obviously faith isbig for us, spirituality is big
for us.
You know that's.
(40:49):
That's obviously what I wantpeople to remember me, for is
someone that that loved God,loved his family and seek to be
a servant rather than to beserved.
And the third is, like I saidearlier, leading with integrity,
doing what we're saying we'regoing to do, we're going to
follow through on ourcommitments and we're going to
be the people that other peopleare curious about.
What's different about Kyle,what's different about Danielle,
what's different about Nandenand Timley and Micah and Quinn?
(41:13):
There's something unique aboutthem.
That's what I want for ourfamily.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Love it.
Those are solid dude, solid tothink about, solid to lead with,
and you do those three thingswell.
It's going to be positivecultures, no matter where they
end up.
So how does someone get intothe wide world of staffing?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
I think I've asked that question a hundred times
throughout my career and I'vebeen asked that question.
That's a good question.
I got into the mortgagebusiness after I got out of
school in the early 2000s.
2005 was when I got myundergraduate degree and my dad
(42:01):
was in the mortgage business fora long time.
So I said I think I'll try thatout.
And I tried that out for a fewyears.
It was great.
I worked for a regional mortgagebank down here in Texas by the
name of Cornerstone, which isnow Cornerstone Home Lending
Great people, and then spentsome time on the wholesale side
with Chase selling to brokercustomers in Colorado and
(42:24):
California, which, in 2008, wasa great time to be in that
business, but was actually oneof our top salespeople but ended
up getting caught in areduction of force at that time
due to the market and I had afriend that was was in the
business and said hey, you need,you need to come over here and
(42:44):
check out this, this staffingthing.
I was like staffing, what?
What do you?
What do you mean?
He said, well, you know, we're,I'm working for a company
called Technisource,technisource.
Okay, and I ended up gettingintroduced to my main man,
justin Thomason, who brought meinto the industry, spent many
(43:05):
years with him at Matrixactually, which is no longer
Matrix but got into the world ofIT staffing back in 2008,
october of 2008, and ended upperforming well in our national
recruiting center here in Dallas, which, technosaurus, ended up
becoming Ronstad which if youknow anything about staffing,
(43:27):
it's one of the big gorillas onthe block and from there went
and had a great 12-year run atMatrix as a recruiter and
account exec and moved intorecruiting management and then
leading a fairly large team ofstaff and professionals for our
(43:48):
central region there at Matrixfor a few years and then now
here in 2024, landed at Tier 4Group.
Similar to you, you knowrelationship with Robert
Bouchard, who's our COO.
I worked together for quite afew years at Matrix and
introduced me to the great BetsyRobinson and you know it's been
(44:11):
a great ride over the last goshalmost nine months here Just
getting again ramped up andgetting to know people here and
our clients and the landscape ofthings here in the Midwest and
the Southwest for us.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
So for people who've never heard of Tier four,
they're like connect for likevideo, like the game, like no,
no, not connect for tier four.
So if, if people want to learnmore about tier four, they want
to learn more about Kyle or theteam like share, share with our
audience.
I mean, I know what you guys do, but I want to hear you say it
Like tell, tell us a little bitabout Tier 4.
How can people learn more aboutways to support you, whether
(44:56):
you're a candidate looking for ajob or a client looking to
bring on great talent?
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Yeah, you can visit us at tier4groupcom.
Read up on us there.
We have a very big and growingpresence out there on LinkedIn
as well.
We're big on the social sellingaspect and being out in front
of our clients, but alsovolunteering in the community.
We're big on the social sellingaspect and being out in front
of our clients, but alsovolunteering in the community.
We're big on that.
We're big on women anddiversity and tech, which is a
(45:23):
big platform for us.
Obviously, betsy is boardpresident for WIT there in
Atlanta and, yeah, those are thetwo main platforms that you can
find us.
Me personally, you can reach meat kylerampy, at tier4groupcom,
and I love the team that I getthe privilege to lock arms with
(45:43):
every single day.
Just a great group of people.
They're relationship focused,focused on doing the right
things, treating people theright way and and ultimately,
you know, chasing chasingrelationships and not deals, as
as Casey would say.
So you know we're we're more ofa boutique firm, but we're
growing and we've got big growthplans over the next few years.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Love it Real quick, just cause I want to make sure
you said I love the work youguys do from a community
perspective, which is spot on.
If people don't know what WITis in Atlanta, tell us a little
bit about WIT.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, it's Women in Technology.
So, as you may or may not know,women are an underserved
community in tech still even tothis day, and so a big focus for
us is to get more women intotechnology roles, into
technology leadership roles,serving on more boards.
(46:40):
That's a big gap in ourindustry, and something we're
really committed to and focusedon is the diversity piece in
tech, so it's a big platform forus.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Love it.
I'm going to make sure women intechnology is tagged when this
comes out so that we give themsome love and hopefully more
people can go specifically dadsor daughters or if dads have you
know spouse out there thatwants to get back into
technology and encourage them tolearn more about that
organization.
I know I know Betsy's, I think,on the board of WIT.
That's right.
She's a lead by example.
(47:15):
Besides LinkedIn being a spotyou are very active on, is there
another social platform that ifanybody wants to connect with
you, you might be, or isLinkedIn the best one?
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, linkedin would be the best one.
I know you're a big proponentof connecting all platforms and
I'm moving in that direction,but I'm out there on Instagram.
You can find me at KGR9, Ibelieve is my tag out there, and
you'll see a lot more personalthan business out there.
But most of what I put outthere is tied to our kids and
(47:53):
what they're involved in.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
So cool, All right.
Well, my man, it's now time togo into the lightning round,
where I go random Again, like Ishare with all my guests.
This is where I show you thenegative hits.
I've taken too many hits incollege not bong hits, but
football hits.
It's your job to answer thesequestions as quickly as you can.
It's my job to try to get agiggle out of you and me.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Okay, I'm ready, true or false.
You were the only HardenSimmons soccer player to score
on a bicycle kick from midfield.
Completely false.
Okay, true or false.
You're the only Harden Simmonsplayer to score seven goals in a
game and then streak aftercelebration.
(48:37):
How did you hear about that?
Speaker 2 (48:40):
No, just kidding, Completely false.
I was on the record books forbeing one of the top assist men
of all time.
I don't know if I'm still onthat list or not, but I was at
one point within the last six toeight years or so.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
So you're the John Stockton of soccer.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
That's right.
That's a great reference.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
If we went into your phone right now, what would be
the one genre of music thatwould completely surprise your
team?
You listen to.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
I don't know if it would surprise them, but we're
real big on Forrest Frank aroundhere.
He's a Christian kind of R&Brapper rapper artist and we're
taking the kids to go see himfor the second time next month
here in Fort Worth, so we'relooking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
There we go.
Tell me the last book you read.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
There we go.
Tell me the last book you read.
Last book I read.
Well, I delve in and out ofyours quite a bit when the
relationship not the deal.
So I was reading that on theplane a couple of weeks ago.
I think the last book that Ithat I read before that was was
the Ryan Leak book, and thenanother great leadership book
that I've read is Turn the ShipAround.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
David Marquette.
Yep, David Marquette.
I have his second book I'mgoing to read here Once I finish
.
I'm reading a book by JohnFeinstein.
Rest in peace, John Feinstein,Great and a former guest on the
podcast.
But if I came to your house fordinner tonight, what would we
have?
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Probably leftovers.
We just finished up pork chopsand we've got some leftover
spaghetti.
I've got in-laws coming in towntonight so we I don't know we
might be ordering in orsomething.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Sounds good, favorite comedy movie.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
It's got to be either Billy Madison or Happy Gilmore.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
Okay, you and your wife are taking a vacation right
now.
No kids, where are we going?
Speaker 2 (50:43):
My wife would want to go back to New York.
She's a big fan of New YorkCity.
I can take about 48 hours of it.
If it were up to me, I'd begoing to the mountains.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Okay, blue Ridge Mountains, west Virginia.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
No, we'd be going to Colorado.
We'd probably be going to Vailor Breckenridge something like
that Sunshine State.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Okay, now, if there was to be a book written about
your life, tell me the title.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Work in progress.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Okay, I've actually other people have said that,
which I love.
Okay, now, kyle.
Work in progress.
Amazon can't print enoughcopies.
Barnes and Noble sold out,airports are sold out.
This fricking thing's frickingselling like hotcakes.
Everybody wants to read.
Work in progress.
So now Netflix is going to makea movie, but so my HBO, so my
paramount, they're all fightingfor it.
You're the casting director.
Who's going to star the one?
(51:42):
And only Kyle Rampey Can't beyou.
But who's going to start usingthis critically acclaimed, hit
new movie?
It's going to rock Ryan.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Reynolds minus the curse words.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Okay, ryan.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Reynolds.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Okay, and then last, the most important question Tell
me two words that woulddescribe your wife.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Oh, beautiful inside and out and true servant.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
We're going to call those hyphenated words.
That was five words, but we'regoing to give you a pass.
Lightning round is over.
We both giggled.
We'll call it a tie, but maybeI'll give you the nod because I
laughed first in my own joke.
Brother, it's been awesomegetting to know you.
I always tell everybody thatthe script is blank and, as you
can see, we have a full page ofnotes.
(52:31):
It's been really, really,really fun learning about you.
I'm I'll be thinking positivethoughts for you and and your
mom as she battles um cancer andand I and I hope that you guys
both can do can get to a spot offorgiveness and um wish you
nothing but the best.
I'm grateful our paths havecrossed and I think you and your
team at tier four havesomething special building and I
(52:51):
know you guys will continue tobuild.
But, um, it's really beenreally fun getting you know as a
dad and just talking life as adad, and I know that I hope that
your episode will positivelyimpact many other dads out there
just working hard to become theultimate quarterback or leader
of their home.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
So buddy same here, brother.
I appreciate the opportunity tobe on here and to to share some
of my story and and I lookforward to future conversations
with you awesome dude.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
Have a great weekend all right.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
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