October 28, 2025 • 42 mins
What if the most familiar symbols in healthcare point to a story far older—and more spiritual—than we realize? We open the vault on pharmakeia, tracing a line from Greek temples and serpent emblems to today’s medical branding, and ask what those roots mean for followers of Jesus navigating modern care. This isn’t a takedown of doctors or a denial of emergency medicine. It’s an invitation to discernment: learn the history, weigh the language, and test the spirits behind the practices that promise healing but can foster dependence.
We unpack the caduceus and the staff of Asclepius, meet Hygieia and Panacea, and consider why serpents show up across ancient cultures. With Genesis 6 as a guide, we explore how myths about “gods” may reflect the Nephilim narrative, adding depth to the Bible’s warnings about sorcery and deception. Along the way, we name the conditioning that trains us to mute symptoms and move on—when pain might be a God-given signal to find the root cause. Instead of fear, we advocate a God-centered approach to health: prayer, wise counsel, lifestyle stewardship, and careful use of tools that align with design.
You’ll also hear about upcoming conversations with practitioners who champion partnering with God for health and a preview of where we’re headed next: Western medicine’s industrial pivot and how funding, research, and incentives reshaped the marketplace. The aim is clarity, not cynicism; hope, not hype. We honor the good within medicine while shining light on the stories behind its symbols.
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Rebecca Twomey (00:32):
Hello, and welcome to the Radiant Mission
Podcast.
My name is Rebecca Twomey, andI'm here with my lovely co-host
and sister Rachel Smith.
Hey! We're on a mission toencourage and inspire others as
they navigate through this lifeand their relationship with
Christ.
Last week we talked about thebiblical use of the word
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pharmacia and its use inreference to sorcery and
witchcraft fun topics.
And then we discussed how thisworld evolved and its use to
describe the pharmaceuticalindustry today.
After wrapping last week'sepisode, we really felt like
there was a lot more to talkabout.
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There was a lot more we wantedto touch on.
And we did have a guestscheduled to come talk on this
topic, but unfortunately, therehave been some scheduling
conflicts that have prevented usfrom getting a chance to record
with her.
So today we're going to diveinto a couple of things.
And some of this we did learnfrom her.
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And so I want to make sure togive her credit on some of the
things that she kind of broughtto light for me personally.
I know Rachel was kind ofalready on this track, but um, I
had some good conversations.
So you can find Casey Byrum onInstagram at the period byram
(01:57):
periodboys.
She's an RN, so she's beenworking in the medical industry
for quite some time and has hadher eyes opened about a lot of
things.
And she loves to share truthson her page and what she's
discovered working in medicine.
So definitely go follow her.
She's a great resource.
And hopefully, we're going toget her on the show to talk
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about this topic.
But until then, we wanted tomake sure that we continued to
talk about and really divedeeper into pharmacia, the word,
the roots, and all this stuff,because the whole point is
education, right?
Ray, we're we're here todiscuss.
We're not here, first of all,this isn't medical advice.
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Nothing that we're saying everis medical advice, but I always
have to give that warning.
You know, a lot of what we'refinding and what we're coming to
might even come across asopinion, and some of it is, and
that's okay.
But more than anything, youknow, we just feel convicted to
share what we're learningbecause we know how important it
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is as we're entering these endtime times.
And as deception is more andmore prevalent in the end of
times, as the birth pains aregetting closer, I think it it
sticks close to my heart that Idon't want anyone to be
deceived.
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And when it comes to far thepharmaceutical industry, there
are many deceptions that aretaking place.
And again, some of this is myopinion, but some of this is
what I've discovered inresearching different aspects of
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the medical industry, and sothere's a lot of truth here,
too, guys.
And um, anyway, the whole goalhere is that we want you to be
thinking about it too, prayingabout it, asking the Lord to
guide you and show you andconvict you and open your eyes
and heart to his way and what isright.
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So that's our big goal.
We are gonna have a guestshortly in a couple of weeks.
His name is Dr.
Vaughn, and he talks about alot of this stuff.
And he's gonna talk about a lotof this stuff in those episodes
about partnering with God forour health and a really
Yahweh-centered approach tohealthful living.
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I think that's gonna be reallyhelpful if you're interested in
this mini-series on health.
Definitely keep listeningthrough.
This is kind of the backgroundthat's gonna bring us to today
and how what we can do with ourbodies and our lives today.
So, all that said, today isabout pharmacia, and we're going
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to hone in specifically on itsroots in Greek mythology, the
Nephilim and symbolism.
And this is gonna tie us to howWestern medicine got to where
it is today, and we'll keepgoing from there.
Rachel Smith (05:04):
So, yeah, it sounds great.
I think we got into we touchedon some of these things a little
bit the last episode.
Actually, interestingly enough,the last episode we did on
PharmaKea that we recorded, youknow, we mentioned a little bit
of these things, and then thevery next day, I saw Casey
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talking about the same exactthing on her Instagram stories,
and that's what kind of reallysparked you and I of like, we
need to go into this evendeeper.
We need to go deeper down therabbit hole.
You're scratching the surface,so now we're like, let's make
this a six-part series.
Rebecca Twomey (05:49):
I mean, it it could be that's the thing with
health, is and this idea ofpharmacy and pharmaceuticals and
all that good stuff.
Is it literally could be 20episodes, yeah, or it could be a
whole podcast, it could be ourwhole podcast, but I don't well
some people do have it as theirwhole podcast.
Rachel Smith (06:11):
Well, like like Dell Big Tree's the high wire,
like that's yeah, prettypopular.
Rebecca Twomey (06:16):
The high wire I find kind of exciting, but yeah,
he he's pretty exciting, but hecan be kind of like
sensational, like yeah, yeah,that's true.
He has some good stuff, butit's the kind of thing, you
know.
He brings on good guests,really.
It you're not always gonna betuning in necessarily all the
time because when you're livingin that what is the word for it?
(06:37):
Yeah, uh, you would probablyknow better than me because I
feel like it impacts you a lot,like mentally and physically,
when you're constantly beingberated with negative type of
content.
Yes, yeah, and it's not to saythat Belt Del Bigtree is not
negative, he's revealing a lotof truth, but he likes only
talks about negative things,yeah.
Yeah, it's very it you can'talways be listening to the heavy
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stuff all the time.
Rachel Smith (07:01):
Yeah, I I am sensitive to that.
That if I get surrounded bythat too much, it starts to just
consume me too much.
Rebecca Twomey (07:11):
All right, so let's jump into symbolism
because something that we didnot address last week was the
symbolism of pharmacia that'spresented to us even today in
the medical world.
There is a there are manysymbols used for medicine, and
they all have the same insignia,but the most popular symbol
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used in medicine today is calledthe catechus.
And all of us have seen thisbecause it's again, it's all
over the place.
It is a staff with snakescoiled around it, and it's the
official insignia of the UnitedStates Medical Corps, the Navy
Pharmacy Division, and thePublic Health Service.
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The catechus is also the magicwand carried by Hermes, and the
Romans knew him as Mercury, themessenger of the gods.
So, um, if you want to knowmore about this, you can find
out about this by simplyGoogling.
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I am not sharing anything thatis uh you actually have to dig
to find.
It's common knowledge that thisthis symbol comes from Greek
mythology.
And uh actually, in an articlethe Mayo Clinic put out, they
break down the roots of theemblem that is all about
mythology.
And the most standout part ofthis article, I had to I had to
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share this in this episode todaybecause it really stood out to
me.
So here's what it says in thearticle to understand the
association of the wingedcatechists and the healing arts,
one must consider two earlyforms of worship adoration of
serpents and of the sun.
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Serpent and sun worship arefound to be universally
associated.
The serpent was worshipped as asymbol of life and regenerative
power by primitive humans whoalso associated sunshine with
the blessings of life andhealth.
The establishment of the seal,the establishment of the seat of
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serpent worship in northernEgypt in the dominion of the sun
god Ra led to the associationof the sun and the serpent.
So this is MayoClinic.comarticle explaining the
catechist.
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And as a Christian, when I readthat, it gave me the
heebie-jeebies.
Rachel Smith (09:52):
You know what that reminded me of is people
consider him controversial, butare you familiar with Graham
Hancock?
So Graham Hancock is ajournalist, but he's taken up
his career for the past 20 or 30years, essentially covering
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ancient archaeology.
And so Egyptologists, a lot ofmainstream Egyptologists and
archaeologists really hate himbecause he has developed in
putting puzzle pieces togetherfrom all kinds of different
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historical sites and evidenceall over the world, a idea that
advanced civilizations are olderthan mainstream history has
told us they are.
Rebecca Twomey (10:58):
Okay.
Rachel Smith (10:59):
But he just came out with a documentary on
Netflix called AncientApocalypse.
And I watched the whole thing.
And while there's some thingsthat, you know, there's nobody
that I think I would ever agreewith 100%, he's coming from a
secular worldview and arguing ofa global catastrophe, most
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likely a global flood thathappened about 10,000 years ago,
and he travels all over theworld at different sites, like
pulling from their umarchaeological evidence for it.
But one common thread he notesin every single archaeological
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site is the depiction ofserpents going as far back as
the most ancient archaeologicaltemple worship sites.
Um, I'm I'm pretty sure it wasin Turkey.
And they're dating it now to bealmost 15,000 years old, which
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is um older than anything thatthey've ever thought that humans
could build, because thismainstream history puts humans
at like, you know, hunters andgatherers at the time, not
people who could build veryadvanced sites, but there are
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serpents, and they'respecifically oriented with the
rising sun on a specific day.
So the one that comes to mymind that really changed his
career is I might pronounce itwrong, but gigliotepi, I believe
it is, and this is in Turkey,I'm pretty sure.
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And then only like 30 milesaway is another site that they
believe might even be older, andit had this whole, and they
believe it was a religious site,and it had all of these really
disturbing looking phallicmassive pillars all over, like
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dozens of them, and in thecenter is this creepy humanoid
snake face.
And on I believe it was eitherthe summer solstice or the
winter solstice.
I'm going off my memory ofwatching this documentary one
time, the sun shines rightthrough the serpent's mouth.
So he notates that this thistype of serpent and sun worship
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is also in sites in China andMexico and Brazil and islands
and the Middle East, it'severywhere.
And these people, you know, youknow, how would they have had
any communication with eachother?
We're talking 10,000 plus yearsago.
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So I just couldn't help butthink about that.
That when you're reading thisfrom the Maya Clinic website
about the what was it called,the catechist, the symbol.
Yeah, is that they're onlydating it to Egyptians, but this
really is as old as time.
Rebecca Twomey (14:24):
Just like sure.
They're mentioning they mentionthe Egyptians, but I believe
Greek mythology, and when we getinto that, it is gonna date us
to pre-flood, yeah, becausethat's gonna date us to the
Nephilim, which is right aninteresting part of this
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conversation.
Something I do want to noteabout just a reminder about
anything to do with science.
This is my own personalopinion, is that anything that
we ever hear about dating, wejust have to be super duper, I
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don't know what the word isquestion questioning, skeptical,
skeptical, yeah, because thetruth is that we don't know and
we never will know when it comesto the dates of things.
Uh we talked when we talkedabout the calendar, we know uh
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our calendars have been changedand stuff like that.
But I think if anybody ever wasfamiliar with Kent Hovind, who
was a Christian scientist, thatwas one of the things that he's
a Christian who's a scientist.
Rachel Smith (15:42):
If you say Christian scientist, that's like
its own religion.
Rebecca Twomey (15:47):
Yeah, he is a creationist.
Yes, there you go.
Yeah, actually.
So he believes in the creationstory, and his whole thing was
debunking all of thesescientists that were dating
things, you know, a millionyears old or this many years old
or whatever.
Yeah, because he would go anddo things behind them and say,
This doesn't make any sense, andhere's why.
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Of course, you know, thecommunities put him down and
painted him as being this crazyperson just to you know take
away any of his credibility,which is what happens to anybody
that speaks truth.
Rachel Smith (16:20):
That's what that's the same.
That's Graham Hancock is almostlike the secular version of him
because the same thing ishappening to him.
Oh, interesting.
Because he's saying thingsaren't old enough, or no, not
actually.
He's saying things are olderthan we're told.
Essentially, the point you'regetting at it's not aligning
with the the mainstream,exactly.
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So the point you're getting at,I completely agree with is take
everything with a grain ofsalt.
Rebecca Twomey (16:46):
Yeah, like take what we say with a grain of
salt, too.
I mean, that's probably prettyclear, yeah.
Rachel Smith (16:52):
Exactly.
But yeah, the the way thatespecially mainstream science
and history and archaeology andgeology, like the way that
everything is dated, you know,I'm not gonna pretend that I'm a
scientist here, but it doesn'talways quite add up.
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So to me, I just takeeverything back to the word of
God, and you know, some thereare some God-fearing Christians
who are scientists who dobelieve that there's a biblical
argument for the earth beinghundreds of thousands, maybe
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even millions of years old.
And that comes from somethingcalled this is kind of getting
in a tangent, something calledthe gap theory, that between
verses one, Genesis one, one andGenesis one, two, there's time
that is not in there that it'snot accounted for.
And I'm not really gonnacomment on that either way,
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other than I feel like it's kindof a stretch and taking
everything back to the word ofGod, it doesn't we just don't
know, we're not given the exactnumbers.
If you add up the you know, thegenealogy of humans, we get
about six thousand-ish years,but we just don't know for sure.
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And kind of like we've talkedabout in some of our past
episodes, you know, Yahweh is agod of order and detail, and
he's given us a lot of detail,and you know, he I feel like
mainstream science, especiallysecular science, and this is
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part of what we're gonna getinto today, is one of the
objectives is to try to devalueGod's word and what he said and
what he's done, and try to bringconfusion into that.
And you know, this goes for umtime as well, is the more things
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can become convoluted andpeople are trusting in science,
then the less reason they havefor a creator, exactly.
Rebecca Twomey (19:10):
Yeah, maybe one day we'll talk about dinosaurs
and then we can really get intothis.
Because that conversation,which is very close knit to the
evolution conversation, yeah,goes right along hand in hand
with that idea and the conceptof taking Christ off of taking
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Yahweh off of the throne as thecreator and making it about
other things.
So anyway, exactly.
Let's get back to Pharmacia.
So let's talk about this quoteand the emblem of Western
medicine being rooted in serpentworship.
Yeah, who do we think came upwith this idea?
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It sounds to me like somethinga serpent himself would come up
with, no, like it.
You know, Satan is an imitator,he has created nothing, and he
wants nothing more than to ruinGod's beautiful creation.
This is opinion, but whatbetter way to do this than
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through pharmacia, aka sorcery,aka the evolution of that being
modern day pharmaceuticals thatgive the promise of we'll fix
your problem, but really createother problems that then put you
into a cycle of sickness thatdon't actually heal you, which
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to me is exactly as they definedit.
The healing arts what you callit an art, healing arts, because
it's not actually uh healing.
Rachel Smith (20:57):
Well, kind of like they they also say practicing
medicine because it's justpractice, it's just practice.
Rebecca Twomey (21:03):
Now, here's the thing the if the Lord created
herbs and plants and animals andthe sun and you know, positive
loving relationships to helpheal us, it would only make
sense to me that the enemy wouldattack those things.
Yeah, why use an herb or aplant to heal your body when
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someone can say, Oh, here, justtake this little pill, put it in
front of you, and it's gonnasolve your problems.
It's the illusion of healingright in front of us when the
truth is that pharmaceuticals,as they were designed, keep us
entrapped in the medical system,dependent on it, and in its
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cycle.
Yeah, we're gonna talk moreabout what I'm even talking
about with this and what we'retalking about with this as it
relates to Western medicine andthe roots of it next episode,
because it's it's its own topic.
So please don't think I'm justbeing dramatic when I say these
things, and also please do nottake what I'm saying as judgment
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or any sort of like, oh, you'retaking a pharmaceutical, you
know, I'm judging you.
That's not what I'm trying tosay.
I'm trying to point out thehistory of this so that we can
all understand it together, andthen we can all make decisions
for our own health on what we'regonna do.
Rachel Smith (22:34):
Right.
And the history goes backthousands of years, it does,
goes back and back and back.
Rebecca Twomey (22:40):
So let's go back, let's talk about
mythology.
I'm using air quotes because Idon't want to miss us to miss
how commonplace this was inother religions, you know, what
we would call pagan religions.
Rachel Smith (22:55):
Yeah.
Rebecca Twomey (22:56):
So just as this is a point to remind you guys,
to remind you listeners, if youhave not listened to episodes
three through six of thispodcast on spiritual warfare,
you're gonna want to go back andlisten.
In episode four and five, wedove into Genesis six and the
Nephilim, which is gonna giveyou a lot more context into this
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topic.
You know, we don't want torehash everything here, so
definitely go listen to that.
We're gonna explain a littlebit about it, but said briefly,
this is a very quick summary.
Yeah, the Greek quote gods ordemigods or whatever you want to
call them were likely not amyth, they were likely the
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offspring of the fallen angelsas described in Genesis 6.
They're also known as theWatchers or the Nephilim.
These fallen angels mated withhuman women, and if we look at
the story of one Greek quote godcalled Asclepius, we will see
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his father is Apollo, and hismother was a mortal human.
Sounds a little bit like thedescription of the Nephilim.
So I'm actually going to readGenesis 6, verse 4.
It states The Nephilim were onthe earth in those days, and
also afterward, when the sons ofGod came in to the daughters of
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men, and they bore children tothem.
Those were the mighty men whowere of old men renowned.
Now, this is stated in otherareas.
We also in the past episodes ummention this instance in the in
this instance and explanationin the book of Enoch, which
corroborates um a lot of this.
So again, listen back.
Rachel Smith (24:49):
Right.
But listen And just to just toclarify real quick there, the
Watchers, in reference to thatverse you just read, were the
sons of God, and the Nephilimare their offspring, are their
offspring of humans.
Rebecca Twomey (25:05):
Yes, yeah, sorry, I I combined it in the
same sentence there.
Rachel Smith (25:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's uh fine.
I just wanted to clarify afteryou reading that verse that the
watchers and the Nephilim aredifferent entities, but
technically the watchers are thefallen fallen angels or sons of
God.
Rebecca Twomey (25:23):
So thank you for the clarification.
So who is Asclepius in quoteGreek mythology, aka likely a
child of a fallen angel, right?
So likely Nephilim.
He was the god of medicine,healing, rejuvenation, and
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physicians.
In depictions of Asclepius, heis shown with a staff with a
coiled snake.
And to the Greeks, snakes weresacred, beings of wisdom,
healing, and resurrection.
Interesting that they wouldworship a serpent.
Rachel Smith (26:05):
Yeah.
Rebecca Twomey (26:06):
So now let's keep going.
Asclepius, he had children.
His daughters were named HygieHyg Hygia and Pansea.
Hygia was the goddess ofhealth, cleanliness, and
hygiene, as I'm sure you couldprobably get from the base of
that word.
And Pansea was the goddess ofuniversal health.
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She is typically portrayed witha potion which she used to heal
the sick.
And there is another image, thecup with the snake, that is
known as the bowl of hygiene.
It is the symbol for pharmacyin most parts of the Western
world where pharmacies arelocated.
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So a similar kind of word thatanother word is used that a lot
of people use is the mortal andpestle is based in this hygiene
imagery that dates all the wayback to these Greek quote
demi-goddesses or whatever theyare.
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So if you look at the logo forlike Walgreens pharmacy, or even
the pharmacies at stores likeWalmart and Rite Aid, the
symbolism is still there.
It's still the same symbol,just you know, they had to
patent their own logos, so theyhad to change it around a little
bit.
Yeah.
But let's back up even further.
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Let's go back to Asclepius,whose father was Apollo, as I
mentioned.
Apollo's father was Zeus, andhe had a brother named Hermes.
And what is Hermes holding?
The Catechus, which is the twosnakes winding up the winged
staff.
It is said that Hermes was thegod of commerce and market, also
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the god of thieves, and alsothe guide for the dead, because
he was said to have traveledbetween worlds, the spiritual
and physical.
He was also known as Mercury into the Romans, I believe it
was.
Rachel Smith (28:10):
Right, yeah.
Rebecca Twomey (28:12):
So he is found holding the catechist, and some
refer to this as it's alsocalled the Azoth, and it is said
to symbolize trade,negotiation, alchemy, and
wisdom.
So the whole point inmentioning this symbolism is to
emphasize the roots of pharmaciaand where it began, where it
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started off, and the fact thatit's still very much the same
today.
The Bible tells us to stay awayfrom sorcery, which is also
something the Nephilim are knownfor creating.
But the cowardly, theunbelieving, the vile, the
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murderers, the sexually immoral,those who practice magic arts,
also referred to as sorcerers insome translations, the
idolaters and liar, all liars,they will be consigned to the
fiery lake of burning sulfur.
This is the second death.
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So Yahweh does not take lightlyto sorcery and richcraft.
Yeah.
And my goal here is not to tryto guilt trip you or make you
feel bad or anyone.
I'm just trying to say that I'mnot trying to say that everyone
involved in the medicalinstrument industry is a
sorcerer that's sitting aroundmaking.
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Magic potions.
The reason we're talking aboutit is just to talk about it, you
know, to shed light on thisconversation because it needs to
be had.
The Lord, He didn't create ourbodies haphazardly, He created
them in His own image.
Rachel Smith (30:14):
Yeah.
Rebecca Twomey (30:15):
You know, He didn't create, we're not lemons.
He didn't create pieces ofjunk.
We're created in the image ofGod.
So with this conversation, Ijust really want to challenge,
and I think you do too, thatthis idea that we need sorcery
made by man, right?
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Likely taught by the Nephilimin order to heal our ailments.
The Bible clearly says inRevelation that during the end
times, all nations will bedeceived by the whore of Great
Babylon with her sorceries.
Sorcery is the Greek word forpharmacia.
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And pharmacia is connected toadministering drugs, poison,
sorcery, the magic arts,deception, and to idolatry.
So what's going on in our worldtoday?
You know, the medical industryhas really been deeply
infiltrated and controlled bysome evil sorcerers.
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Again, not everybody, but thereare some that are guided by the
enemy that are not guided bythe Lord.
But it is a tool that theenemy, as far as I can see, is
using.
Rachel Smith (31:37):
Yeah, absolutely.
I think one of the things thatI'm kind of sticking out to me
in this picture that we'repainting is that this is not
something that has just comeabout in the past hundred years.
Yes, exactly.
This has been woven intohumanity for thousands and
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thousands of years.
That's the whole reason we'regoing back to the Greeks and
even the pre-flood world of theNephilim and why books like the
Book of Enoch can be a usefulresource because it references
this is where these sins ofwitchcraft started.
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And through all of that, youknow, the enemy has been weaving
his schemes, but Yahweh God isgreater than all of these false
gods.
He's greater than the serpentof old, as Revelation describes
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him, Satan.
And he's he's greater than thethe schemes of of men today.
Because, like you said, noteveryone who works in the
medical field is a sorcerer.
Yeah.
It's just we're we're trying toshine a little light on the
history and right.
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The history of where this stuffcame from.
It doesn't make every personwho does anything with it bad,
because the fact of the matteris, is herbs and natural
substances can also be used forsorcery.
Rebecca Twomey (33:23):
Sure.
A lot of things can be used fornegative and for bad.
The goal here is really justfor us to kind of root out what
is of God and what is not.
And again, I mentioned Dr.
Bond earlier, but definitelystay tuned for his episodes
because he he gave me a newperspective and some new
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thoughts and ideas about thisidea of partnering with God and
our health and what that lookslike and what that means and how
to trust him through things.
And one thing that he sharedwith me that was really standout
was he said that we are sotaught conditioned and trained
to think that symptoms, when wehave a headache, for example,
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we're trained because we have TVcommercials, right, to go get a
pain reliever, to go get, youknow, an N said pain reliever
and like use it to get rid ofthe headache.
But really, God is so smart andso wise that He created our
bodies to experience pain.
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And that pain is an indicatorthat something is not in
alignment.
And instead of suppressing thesymptom, when we get an
alignment with God and ourbodies, then we can get to the
root cause of what's going onand we can solve the problem.
Right.
And this a lot of this goesback to like you mentioned that
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this has been going on forthousands of years.
It's thousands of years ofconditioning.
And I actually do think weshould do an episode on what it
means to be conditioned orprogrammed.
Yeah.
I think you know, we've usedthat term a lot, and most people
probably know what that means,but it might be helpful to kind
of understand how frequentlythis is done to us by our own
(35:19):
G-O-V institutions.
You know what I'm saying?
Without me saying it out loud.
But, you know, the media, weare we are taught and controlled
in certain ways.
And this is one of those waysthat for a very long time,
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especially anybody that's alivein this generation has grown up
with televisions, withcommercials, where
pharmaceutical ads, a few ofthem in America, at least, most
especially, are allowed to runon air every five milliseconds.
Rachel Smith (35:58):
Yeah.
Rebecca Twomey (35:59):
This is how we've been conditioned to think.
And if you see it enough andyou hear it enough, then you
believe it.
So that's actually what we'regoing to talk about next episode
is Western medicine, how we gotto where we are today.
It's kind of the history offrom you know the late 1800s
through the early 1900s as wetransition into this kind of new
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marketplace with drugs.
And you know, drugs are old,but they're new too.
So I'm excited for us to talkabout that.
So definitely stay tuned.
Rachel, is there anything thatyou wanted to tie up in this
episode?
Rachel Smith (36:39):
No, I think that's a good place to transition us
out for the you know, our firstepisode, we wanted to kind of
scratch the surface, and then wedecided we wanted to go back
further and expound on some ofthose little things that we
mentioned.
And then our our hope is tokind of weave this together with
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how this ain't you know, theancient pharmacia developed into
what we might recognize more inthe past several hundred years.
And one thing I did want to sayis, and you and I were talking
about it before we wererecording, is like you said,
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we're not here to give anyoneany kind of medical advice or
any ideas or judge anyone in anyway whatsoever.
All we really want to do isjust kind of throw out some
little nuggets out there so thatpeople can dig in and do more
of their own research and cometo their own conclusions.
(37:50):
There's so much informationthat even you know, we're
touching on things that spanthousands and thousands of
years.
And so putting all the piecestogether takes a long time.
It took, you know, both of us along time, and using resources
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that we've gotten from eachother.
So that can be really helpfulwhen you're trying to make sense
of these, you know, just thisone industry, and it's
all-encompassing.
And like we'll discuss nextepisode, it it touches a lot
more than just the medicalfield.
So yeah, yeah, just absolutelybear with us and hopefully you
(38:36):
you know connect with somethingwe say, or it puts some pieces
together for you that you canpray on and look into more on
your own.
Rebecca Twomey (38:46):
Definitely.
Yeah, use your own discernment.
As Rachel mentioned, it's takenus a lot of years.
And honestly, it's taken us alot of our own painful
experiences with the medicalsystem to even look into this.
You know, if we didn't have thenegative experiences that we
had, we may not be having thisconversation.
(39:08):
And I think that that is, youknow, that's honestly just as a
kind of side note.
Like when I see moms thatalready see birth for what it is
and the truth about it and howindustrialized it's become and
it's their first baby, I am soproud.
I like I can't, I can't evenalmost fathom it.
(39:29):
I'm like, how did you figurethis out?
Yeah, because it took me makingthe mistakes in order to get it
figured out.
Right.
And so if you're one of thosepeople that hasn't gotten um,
you know, hasn't had a problemper se from the medical system,
but you're still very curiousabout it, good for you.
Yeah, it took learning the hardway for me, and I know for
(39:53):
Rachel too, in a lot ofdifferent situations to get to
where we are, but that's okay,right?
We are living these lives, andyou know, our experiences are
what shape us.
So we're all going to be in adifferent place.
And I hope that this just getsyou thinking and praying and
using discernment and look it upfor yourself.
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Look into Greek mythology, lookup the catechists, and uh look
for those images of the Greekand Roman gods and the serpent.
So we are going to dive intoWestern medicine, roots of it,
and Mr.
Rockefeller next week.
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For you were once darkness, butnow you are light in God.
Live as children of light.
For the fruit of the lightconsists in all goodness,
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And find out what pleases theLord.
Have nothing to do with thefruitless deeds of darkness, but
rather expose them.
It is shameful even to mentionwhat the disobedient do in
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But everything exposed by thelight becomes visible, and
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This is why it is said, wakeup, sleeper, rise from the dead,
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My name is Rebecca Twomey, andI'm here with my lovely co-host
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Christ.
Last week we talked about thebiblical use of the word
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pharmacia and its use inreference to sorcery and
witchcraft fun topics.
And then we discussed how thisworld evolved and its use to
describe the pharmaceuticalindustry today.
After wrapping last week'sepisode, we really felt like
there was a lot more to talkabout.
(01:15):
There was a lot more we wantedto touch on.
And we did have a guestscheduled to come talk on this
topic, but unfortunately, therehave been some scheduling
conflicts that have prevented usfrom getting a chance to record
with her.
So today we're going to diveinto a couple of things.
And some of this we did learnfrom her.
(01:36):
And so I want to make sure togive her credit on some of the
things that she kind of broughtto light for me personally.
I know Rachel was kind ofalready on this track, but um, I
had some good conversations.
So you can find Casey Byrum onInstagram at the period byram
(01:57):
periodboys.
She's an RN, so she's beenworking in the medical industry
for quite some time and has hadher eyes opened about a lot of
things.
And she loves to share truthson her page and what she's
discovered working in medicine.
So definitely go follow her.
She's a great resource.
And hopefully, we're going toget her on the show to talk
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about this topic.
But until then, we wanted tomake sure that we continued to
talk about and really divedeeper into pharmacia, the word,
the roots, and all this stuff,because the whole point is
education, right?
Ray, we're we're here todiscuss.
We're not here, first of all,this isn't medical advice.
(02:39):
Nothing that we're saying everis medical advice, but I always
have to give that warning.
You know, a lot of what we'refinding and what we're coming to
might even come across asopinion, and some of it is, and
that's okay.
But more than anything, youknow, we just feel convicted to
share what we're learningbecause we know how important it
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is as we're entering these endtime times.
And as deception is more andmore prevalent in the end of
times, as the birth pains aregetting closer, I think it it
sticks close to my heart that Idon't want anyone to be
deceived.
(03:23):
And when it comes to far thepharmaceutical industry, there
are many deceptions that aretaking place.
And again, some of this is myopinion, but some of this is
what I've discovered inresearching different aspects of
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the medical industry, and sothere's a lot of truth here,
too, guys.
And um, anyway, the whole goalhere is that we want you to be
thinking about it too, prayingabout it, asking the Lord to
guide you and show you andconvict you and open your eyes
and heart to his way and what isright.
(04:05):
So that's our big goal.
We are gonna have a guestshortly in a couple of weeks.
His name is Dr.
Vaughn, and he talks about alot of this stuff.
And he's gonna talk about a lotof this stuff in those episodes
about partnering with God forour health and a really
Yahweh-centered approach tohealthful living.
(04:26):
I think that's gonna be reallyhelpful if you're interested in
this mini-series on health.
Definitely keep listeningthrough.
This is kind of the backgroundthat's gonna bring us to today
and how what we can do with ourbodies and our lives today.
So, all that said, today isabout pharmacia, and we're going
(04:49):
to hone in specifically on itsroots in Greek mythology, the
Nephilim and symbolism.
And this is gonna tie us to howWestern medicine got to where
it is today, and we'll keepgoing from there.
Rachel Smith (05:04):
So, yeah, it sounds great.
I think we got into we touchedon some of these things a little
bit the last episode.
Actually, interestingly enough,the last episode we did on
PharmaKea that we recorded, youknow, we mentioned a little bit
of these things, and then thevery next day, I saw Casey
(05:26):
talking about the same exactthing on her Instagram stories,
and that's what kind of reallysparked you and I of like, we
need to go into this evendeeper.
We need to go deeper down therabbit hole.
You're scratching the surface,so now we're like, let's make
this a six-part series.
Rebecca Twomey (05:49):
I mean, it it could be that's the thing with
health, is and this idea ofpharmacy and pharmaceuticals and
all that good stuff.
Is it literally could be 20episodes, yeah, or it could be a
whole podcast, it could be ourwhole podcast, but I don't well
some people do have it as theirwhole podcast.
Rachel Smith (06:11):
Well, like like Dell Big Tree's the high wire,
like that's yeah, prettypopular.
Rebecca Twomey (06:16):
The high wire I find kind of exciting, but yeah,
he he's pretty exciting, but hecan be kind of like
sensational, like yeah, yeah,that's true.
He has some good stuff, butit's the kind of thing, you
know.
He brings on good guests,really.
It you're not always gonna betuning in necessarily all the
time because when you're livingin that what is the word for it?
(06:37):
Yeah, uh, you would probablyknow better than me because I
feel like it impacts you a lot,like mentally and physically,
when you're constantly beingberated with negative type of
content.
Yes, yeah, and it's not to saythat Belt Del Bigtree is not
negative, he's revealing a lotof truth, but he likes only
talks about negative things,yeah.
Yeah, it's very it you can'talways be listening to the heavy
(07:00):
stuff all the time.
Rachel Smith (07:01):
Yeah, I I am sensitive to that.
That if I get surrounded bythat too much, it starts to just
consume me too much.
Rebecca Twomey (07:11):
All right, so let's jump into symbolism
because something that we didnot address last week was the
symbolism of pharmacia that'spresented to us even today in
the medical world.
There is a there are manysymbols used for medicine, and
they all have the same insignia,but the most popular symbol
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used in medicine today is calledthe catechus.
And all of us have seen thisbecause it's again, it's all
over the place.
It is a staff with snakescoiled around it, and it's the
official insignia of the UnitedStates Medical Corps, the Navy
Pharmacy Division, and thePublic Health Service.
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The catechus is also the magicwand carried by Hermes, and the
Romans knew him as Mercury, themessenger of the gods.
So, um, if you want to knowmore about this, you can find
out about this by simplyGoogling.
(08:17):
I am not sharing anything thatis uh you actually have to dig
to find.
It's common knowledge that thisthis symbol comes from Greek
mythology.
And uh actually, in an articlethe Mayo Clinic put out, they
break down the roots of theemblem that is all about
mythology.
And the most standout part ofthis article, I had to I had to
(08:42):
share this in this episode todaybecause it really stood out to
me.
So here's what it says in thearticle to understand the
association of the wingedcatechists and the healing arts,
one must consider two earlyforms of worship adoration of
serpents and of the sun.
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Serpent and sun worship arefound to be universally
associated.
The serpent was worshipped as asymbol of life and regenerative
power by primitive humans whoalso associated sunshine with
the blessings of life andhealth.
The establishment of the seal,the establishment of the seat of
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serpent worship in northernEgypt in the dominion of the sun
god Ra led to the associationof the sun and the serpent.
So this is MayoClinic.comarticle explaining the
catechist.
(09:47):
And as a Christian, when I readthat, it gave me the
heebie-jeebies.
Rachel Smith (09:52):
You know what that reminded me of is people
consider him controversial, butare you familiar with Graham
Hancock?
So Graham Hancock is ajournalist, but he's taken up
his career for the past 20 or 30years, essentially covering
(10:13):
ancient archaeology.
And so Egyptologists, a lot ofmainstream Egyptologists and
archaeologists really hate himbecause he has developed in
putting puzzle pieces togetherfrom all kinds of different
(10:33):
historical sites and evidenceall over the world, a idea that
advanced civilizations are olderthan mainstream history has
told us they are.
Rebecca Twomey (10:58):
Okay.
Rachel Smith (10:59):
But he just came out with a documentary on
Netflix called AncientApocalypse.
And I watched the whole thing.
And while there's some thingsthat, you know, there's nobody
that I think I would ever agreewith 100%, he's coming from a
secular worldview and arguing ofa global catastrophe, most
(11:24):
likely a global flood thathappened about 10,000 years ago,
and he travels all over theworld at different sites, like
pulling from their umarchaeological evidence for it.
But one common thread he notesin every single archaeological
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site is the depiction ofserpents going as far back as
the most ancient archaeologicaltemple worship sites.
Um, I'm I'm pretty sure it wasin Turkey.
And they're dating it now to bealmost 15,000 years old, which
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is um older than anything thatthey've ever thought that humans
could build, because thismainstream history puts humans
at like, you know, hunters andgatherers at the time, not
people who could build veryadvanced sites, but there are
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serpents, and they'respecifically oriented with the
rising sun on a specific day.
So the one that comes to mymind that really changed his
career is I might pronounce itwrong, but gigliotepi, I believe
it is, and this is in Turkey,I'm pretty sure.
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And then only like 30 milesaway is another site that they
believe might even be older, andit had this whole, and they
believe it was a religious site,and it had all of these really
disturbing looking phallicmassive pillars all over, like
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dozens of them, and in thecenter is this creepy humanoid
snake face.
And on I believe it was eitherthe summer solstice or the
winter solstice.
I'm going off my memory ofwatching this documentary one
time, the sun shines rightthrough the serpent's mouth.
So he notates that this thistype of serpent and sun worship
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is also in sites in China andMexico and Brazil and islands
and the Middle East, it'severywhere.
And these people, you know, youknow, how would they have had
any communication with eachother?
We're talking 10,000 plus yearsago.
(14:02):
So I just couldn't help butthink about that.
That when you're reading thisfrom the Maya Clinic website
about the what was it called,the catechist, the symbol.
Yeah, is that they're onlydating it to Egyptians, but this
really is as old as time.
Rebecca Twomey (14:24):
Just like sure.
They're mentioning they mentionthe Egyptians, but I believe
Greek mythology, and when we getinto that, it is gonna date us
to pre-flood, yeah, becausethat's gonna date us to the
Nephilim, which is right aninteresting part of this
(14:46):
conversation.
Something I do want to noteabout just a reminder about
anything to do with science.
This is my own personalopinion, is that anything that
we ever hear about dating, wejust have to be super duper, I
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don't know what the word isquestion questioning, skeptical,
skeptical, yeah, because thetruth is that we don't know and
we never will know when it comesto the dates of things.
Uh we talked when we talkedabout the calendar, we know uh
(15:27):
our calendars have been changedand stuff like that.
But I think if anybody ever wasfamiliar with Kent Hovind, who
was a Christian scientist, thatwas one of the things that he's
a Christian who's a scientist.
Rachel Smith (15:42):
If you say Christian scientist, that's like
its own religion.
Rebecca Twomey (15:47):
Yeah, he is a creationist.
Yes, there you go.
Yeah, actually.
So he believes in the creationstory, and his whole thing was
debunking all of thesescientists that were dating
things, you know, a millionyears old or this many years old
or whatever.
Yeah, because he would go anddo things behind them and say,
This doesn't make any sense, andhere's why.
(16:08):
Of course, you know, thecommunities put him down and
painted him as being this crazyperson just to you know take
away any of his credibility,which is what happens to anybody
that speaks truth.
Rachel Smith (16:20):
That's what that's the same.
That's Graham Hancock is almostlike the secular version of him
because the same thing ishappening to him.
Oh, interesting.
Because he's saying thingsaren't old enough, or no, not
actually.
He's saying things are olderthan we're told.
Essentially, the point you'regetting at it's not aligning
with the the mainstream,exactly.
(16:42):
So the point you're getting at,I completely agree with is take
everything with a grain ofsalt.
Rebecca Twomey (16:46):
Yeah, like take what we say with a grain of
salt, too.
I mean, that's probably prettyclear, yeah.
Rachel Smith (16:52):
Exactly.
But yeah, the the way thatespecially mainstream science
and history and archaeology andgeology, like the way that
everything is dated, you know,I'm not gonna pretend that I'm a
scientist here, but it doesn'talways quite add up.
(17:13):
So to me, I just takeeverything back to the word of
God, and you know, some thereare some God-fearing Christians
who are scientists who dobelieve that there's a biblical
argument for the earth beinghundreds of thousands, maybe
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even millions of years old.
And that comes from somethingcalled this is kind of getting
in a tangent, something calledthe gap theory, that between
verses one, Genesis one, one andGenesis one, two, there's time
that is not in there that it'snot accounted for.
And I'm not really gonnacomment on that either way,
(17:56):
other than I feel like it's kindof a stretch and taking
everything back to the word ofGod, it doesn't we just don't
know, we're not given the exactnumbers.
If you add up the you know, thegenealogy of humans, we get
about six thousand-ish years,but we just don't know for sure.
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And kind of like we've talkedabout in some of our past
episodes, you know, Yahweh is agod of order and detail, and
he's given us a lot of detail,and you know, he I feel like
mainstream science, especiallysecular science, and this is
(18:38):
part of what we're gonna getinto today, is one of the
objectives is to try to devalueGod's word and what he said and
what he's done, and try to bringconfusion into that.
And you know, this goes for umtime as well, is the more things
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can become convoluted andpeople are trusting in science,
then the less reason they havefor a creator, exactly.
Rebecca Twomey (19:10):
Yeah, maybe one day we'll talk about dinosaurs
and then we can really get intothis.
Because that conversation,which is very close knit to the
evolution conversation, yeah,goes right along hand in hand
with that idea and the conceptof taking Christ off of taking
(19:32):
Yahweh off of the throne as thecreator and making it about
other things.
So anyway, exactly.
Let's get back to Pharmacia.
So let's talk about this quoteand the emblem of Western
medicine being rooted in serpentworship.
Yeah, who do we think came upwith this idea?
(19:56):
It sounds to me like somethinga serpent himself would come up
with, no, like it.
You know, Satan is an imitator,he has created nothing, and he
wants nothing more than to ruinGod's beautiful creation.
This is opinion, but whatbetter way to do this than
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through pharmacia, aka sorcery,aka the evolution of that being
modern day pharmaceuticals thatgive the promise of we'll fix
your problem, but really createother problems that then put you
into a cycle of sickness thatdon't actually heal you, which
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to me is exactly as they definedit.
The healing arts what you callit an art, healing arts, because
it's not actually uh healing.
Rachel Smith (20:57):
Well, kind of like they they also say practicing
medicine because it's justpractice, it's just practice.
Rebecca Twomey (21:03):
Now, here's the thing the if the Lord created
herbs and plants and animals andthe sun and you know, positive
loving relationships to helpheal us, it would only make
sense to me that the enemy wouldattack those things.
Yeah, why use an herb or aplant to heal your body when
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someone can say, Oh, here, justtake this little pill, put it in
front of you, and it's gonnasolve your problems.
It's the illusion of healingright in front of us when the
truth is that pharmaceuticals,as they were designed, keep us
entrapped in the medical system,dependent on it, and in its
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cycle.
Yeah, we're gonna talk moreabout what I'm even talking
about with this and what we'retalking about with this as it
relates to Western medicine andthe roots of it next episode,
because it's it's its own topic.
So please don't think I'm justbeing dramatic when I say these
things, and also please do nottake what I'm saying as judgment
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or any sort of like, oh, you'retaking a pharmaceutical, you
know, I'm judging you.
That's not what I'm trying tosay.
I'm trying to point out thehistory of this so that we can
all understand it together, andthen we can all make decisions
for our own health on what we'regonna do.
Rachel Smith (22:34):
Right.
And the history goes backthousands of years, it does,
goes back and back and back.
Rebecca Twomey (22:40):
So let's go back, let's talk about
mythology.
I'm using air quotes because Idon't want to miss us to miss
how commonplace this was inother religions, you know, what
we would call pagan religions.
Rachel Smith (22:55):
Yeah.
Rebecca Twomey (22:56):
So just as this is a point to remind you guys,
to remind you listeners, if youhave not listened to episodes
three through six of thispodcast on spiritual warfare,
you're gonna want to go back andlisten.
In episode four and five, wedove into Genesis six and the
Nephilim, which is gonna giveyou a lot more context into this
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topic.
You know, we don't want torehash everything here, so
definitely go listen to that.
We're gonna explain a littlebit about it, but said briefly,
this is a very quick summary.
Yeah, the Greek quote gods ordemigods or whatever you want to
call them were likely not amyth, they were likely the
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offspring of the fallen angelsas described in Genesis 6.
They're also known as theWatchers or the Nephilim.
These fallen angels mated withhuman women, and if we look at
the story of one Greek quote godcalled Asclepius, we will see
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his father is Apollo, and hismother was a mortal human.
Sounds a little bit like thedescription of the Nephilim.
So I'm actually going to readGenesis 6, verse 4.
It states The Nephilim were onthe earth in those days, and
also afterward, when the sons ofGod came in to the daughters of
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men, and they bore children tothem.
Those were the mighty men whowere of old men renowned.
Now, this is stated in otherareas.
We also in the past episodes ummention this instance in the in
this instance and explanationin the book of Enoch, which
corroborates um a lot of this.
So again, listen back.
Rachel Smith (24:49):
Right.
But listen And just to just toclarify real quick there, the
Watchers, in reference to thatverse you just read, were the
sons of God, and the Nephilimare their offspring, are their
offspring of humans.
Rebecca Twomey (25:05):
Yes, yeah, sorry, I I combined it in the
same sentence there.
Rachel Smith (25:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's uh fine.
I just wanted to clarify afteryou reading that verse that the
watchers and the Nephilim aredifferent entities, but
technically the watchers are thefallen fallen angels or sons of
God.
Rebecca Twomey (25:23):
So thank you for the clarification.
So who is Asclepius in quoteGreek mythology, aka likely a
child of a fallen angel, right?
So likely Nephilim.
He was the god of medicine,healing, rejuvenation, and
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physicians.
In depictions of Asclepius, heis shown with a staff with a
coiled snake.
And to the Greeks, snakes weresacred, beings of wisdom,
healing, and resurrection.
Interesting that they wouldworship a serpent.
Rachel Smith (26:05):
Yeah.
Rebecca Twomey (26:06):
So now let's keep going.
Asclepius, he had children.
His daughters were named HygieHyg Hygia and Pansea.
Hygia was the goddess ofhealth, cleanliness, and
hygiene, as I'm sure you couldprobably get from the base of
that word.
And Pansea was the goddess ofuniversal health.
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She is typically portrayed witha potion which she used to heal
the sick.
And there is another image, thecup with the snake, that is
known as the bowl of hygiene.
It is the symbol for pharmacyin most parts of the Western
world where pharmacies arelocated.
(26:50):
So a similar kind of word thatanother word is used that a lot
of people use is the mortal andpestle is based in this hygiene
imagery that dates all the wayback to these Greek quote
demi-goddesses or whatever theyare.
(27:11):
So if you look at the logo forlike Walgreens pharmacy, or even
the pharmacies at stores likeWalmart and Rite Aid, the
symbolism is still there.
It's still the same symbol,just you know, they had to
patent their own logos, so theyhad to change it around a little
bit.
Yeah.
But let's back up even further.
(27:32):
Let's go back to Asclepius,whose father was Apollo, as I
mentioned.
Apollo's father was Zeus, andhe had a brother named Hermes.
And what is Hermes holding?
The Catechus, which is the twosnakes winding up the winged
staff.
It is said that Hermes was thegod of commerce and market, also
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the god of thieves, and alsothe guide for the dead, because
he was said to have traveledbetween worlds, the spiritual
and physical.
He was also known as Mercury into the Romans, I believe it
was.
Rachel Smith (28:10):
Right, yeah.
Rebecca Twomey (28:12):
So he is found holding the catechist, and some
refer to this as it's alsocalled the Azoth, and it is said
to symbolize trade,negotiation, alchemy, and
wisdom.
So the whole point inmentioning this symbolism is to
emphasize the roots of pharmaciaand where it began, where it
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started off, and the fact thatit's still very much the same
today.
The Bible tells us to stay awayfrom sorcery, which is also
something the Nephilim are knownfor creating.
But the cowardly, theunbelieving, the vile, the
(29:18):
murderers, the sexually immoral,those who practice magic arts,
also referred to as sorcerers insome translations, the
idolaters and liar, all liars,they will be consigned to the
fiery lake of burning sulfur.
This is the second death.
(29:38):
So Yahweh does not take lightlyto sorcery and richcraft.
Yeah.
And my goal here is not to tryto guilt trip you or make you
feel bad or anyone.
I'm just trying to say that I'mnot trying to say that everyone
involved in the medicalinstrument industry is a
sorcerer that's sitting aroundmaking.
(29:59):
Magic potions.
The reason we're talking aboutit is just to talk about it, you
know, to shed light on thisconversation because it needs to
be had.
The Lord, He didn't create ourbodies haphazardly, He created
them in His own image.
Rachel Smith (30:14):
Yeah.
Rebecca Twomey (30:15):
You know, He didn't create, we're not lemons.
He didn't create pieces ofjunk.
We're created in the image ofGod.
So with this conversation, Ijust really want to challenge,
and I think you do too, thatthis idea that we need sorcery
made by man, right?
(30:36):
Likely taught by the Nephilimin order to heal our ailments.
The Bible clearly says inRevelation that during the end
times, all nations will bedeceived by the whore of Great
Babylon with her sorceries.
Sorcery is the Greek word forpharmacia.
(30:57):
And pharmacia is connected toadministering drugs, poison,
sorcery, the magic arts,deception, and to idolatry.
So what's going on in our worldtoday?
You know, the medical industryhas really been deeply
infiltrated and controlled bysome evil sorcerers.
(31:20):
Again, not everybody, but thereare some that are guided by the
enemy that are not guided bythe Lord.
But it is a tool that theenemy, as far as I can see, is
using.
Rachel Smith (31:37):
Yeah, absolutely.
I think one of the things thatI'm kind of sticking out to me
in this picture that we'repainting is that this is not
something that has just comeabout in the past hundred years.
Yes, exactly.
This has been woven intohumanity for thousands and
(32:00):
thousands of years.
That's the whole reason we'regoing back to the Greeks and
even the pre-flood world of theNephilim and why books like the
Book of Enoch can be a usefulresource because it references
this is where these sins ofwitchcraft started.
(32:26):
And through all of that, youknow, the enemy has been weaving
his schemes, but Yahweh God isgreater than all of these false
gods.
He's greater than the serpentof old, as Revelation describes
(32:47):
him, Satan.
And he's he's greater than thethe schemes of of men today.
Because, like you said, noteveryone who works in the
medical field is a sorcerer.
Yeah.
It's just we're we're trying toshine a little light on the
history and right.
(33:07):
The history of where this stuffcame from.
It doesn't make every personwho does anything with it bad,
because the fact of the matteris, is herbs and natural
substances can also be used forsorcery.
Rebecca Twomey (33:23):
Sure.
A lot of things can be used fornegative and for bad.
The goal here is really justfor us to kind of root out what
is of God and what is not.
And again, I mentioned Dr.
Bond earlier, but definitelystay tuned for his episodes
because he he gave me a newperspective and some new
(33:47):
thoughts and ideas about thisidea of partnering with God and
our health and what that lookslike and what that means and how
to trust him through things.
And one thing that he sharedwith me that was really standout
was he said that we are sotaught conditioned and trained
to think that symptoms, when wehave a headache, for example,
(34:08):
we're trained because we have TVcommercials, right, to go get a
pain reliever, to go get, youknow, an N said pain reliever
and like use it to get rid ofthe headache.
But really, God is so smart andso wise that He created our
bodies to experience pain.
(34:31):
And that pain is an indicatorthat something is not in
alignment.
And instead of suppressing thesymptom, when we get an
alignment with God and ourbodies, then we can get to the
root cause of what's going onand we can solve the problem.
Right.
And this a lot of this goesback to like you mentioned that
(34:54):
this has been going on forthousands of years.
It's thousands of years ofconditioning.
And I actually do think weshould do an episode on what it
means to be conditioned orprogrammed.
Yeah.
I think you know, we've usedthat term a lot, and most people
probably know what that means,but it might be helpful to kind
of understand how frequentlythis is done to us by our own
(35:19):
G-O-V institutions.
You know what I'm saying?
Without me saying it out loud.
But, you know, the media, weare we are taught and controlled
in certain ways.
And this is one of those waysthat for a very long time,
(35:40):
especially anybody that's alivein this generation has grown up
with televisions, withcommercials, where
pharmaceutical ads, a few ofthem in America, at least, most
especially, are allowed to runon air every five milliseconds.
Rachel Smith (35:58):
Yeah.
Rebecca Twomey (35:59):
This is how we've been conditioned to think.
And if you see it enough andyou hear it enough, then you
believe it.
So that's actually what we'regoing to talk about next episode
is Western medicine, how we gotto where we are today.
It's kind of the history offrom you know the late 1800s
through the early 1900s as wetransition into this kind of new
(36:23):
marketplace with drugs.
And you know, drugs are old,but they're new too.
So I'm excited for us to talkabout that.
So definitely stay tuned.
Rachel, is there anything thatyou wanted to tie up in this
episode?
Rachel Smith (36:39):
No, I think that's a good place to transition us
out for the you know, our firstepisode, we wanted to kind of
scratch the surface, and then wedecided we wanted to go back
further and expound on some ofthose little things that we
mentioned.
And then our our hope is tokind of weave this together with
(37:02):
how this ain't you know, theancient pharmacia developed into
what we might recognize more inthe past several hundred years.
And one thing I did want to sayis, and you and I were talking
about it before we wererecording, is like you said,
(37:27):
we're not here to give anyoneany kind of medical advice or
any ideas or judge anyone in anyway whatsoever.
All we really want to do isjust kind of throw out some
little nuggets out there so thatpeople can dig in and do more
of their own research and cometo their own conclusions.
(37:50):
There's so much informationthat even you know, we're
touching on things that spanthousands and thousands of
years.
And so putting all the piecestogether takes a long time.
It took, you know, both of us along time, and using resources
(38:10):
that we've gotten from eachother.
So that can be really helpfulwhen you're trying to make sense
of these, you know, just thisone industry, and it's
all-encompassing.
And like we'll discuss nextepisode, it it touches a lot
more than just the medicalfield.
So yeah, yeah, just absolutelybear with us and hopefully you
(38:36):
you know connect with somethingwe say, or it puts some pieces
together for you that you canpray on and look into more on
your own.
Rebecca Twomey (38:46):
Definitely.
Yeah, use your own discernment.
As Rachel mentioned, it's takenus a lot of years.
And honestly, it's taken us alot of our own painful
experiences with the medicalsystem to even look into this.
You know, if we didn't have thenegative experiences that we
had, we may not be having thisconversation.
(39:08):
And I think that that is, youknow, that's honestly just as a
kind of side note.
Like when I see moms thatalready see birth for what it is
and the truth about it and howindustrialized it's become and
it's their first baby, I am soproud.
I like I can't, I can't evenalmost fathom it.
(39:29):
I'm like, how did you figurethis out?
Yeah, because it took me makingthe mistakes in order to get it
figured out.
Right.
And so if you're one of thosepeople that hasn't gotten um,
you know, hasn't had a problemper se from the medical system,
but you're still very curiousabout it, good for you.
Yeah, it took learning the hardway for me, and I know for
(39:53):
Rachel too, in a lot ofdifferent situations to get to
where we are, but that's okay,right?
We are living these lives, andyou know, our experiences are
what shape us.
So we're all going to be in adifferent place.
And I hope that this just getsyou thinking and praying and
using discernment and look it upfor yourself.
(40:13):
Look into Greek mythology, lookup the catechists, and uh look
for those images of the Greekand Roman gods and the serpent.
So we are going to dive intoWestern medicine, roots of it,
and Mr.
Rockefeller next week.
(40:34):
So stay tuned.
Join us if you want to know thehistory of how the heck we got
to where we are today.
And thank you for tuning in andbeing on this journey with us.
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Share this with somebody thatis into this stuff too.
We'd really appreciate it.
And today we're going to closewith Ephesians 5, verses 8
through 16.
For you were once darkness, butnow you are light in God.
Live as children of light.
For the fruit of the lightconsists in all goodness,
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righteousness, and truth.
And find out what pleases theLord.
Have nothing to do with thefruitless deeds of darkness, but
rather expose them.
It is shameful even to mentionwhat the disobedient do in
secret.
But everything exposed by thelight becomes visible, and
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everything that is illuminatedbecomes a light.
This is why it is said, wakeup, sleeper, rise from the dead,
and Christ will shine on you.
Be very careful then how youlive, not as unwise, but as
wise.
Making the most of everyopportunity because the days are
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evil.
And we're wishing you a radiantweek.
We'll see you next time.
Bye, everyone.
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