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George Janko Podcast with Zachary Levi - Full Episode

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In this thought-provoking episode of the Radio Coffee House, Clint Armitage takes us on a journey of self-discovery and love, inspired by the insights of actor Zachary Levi. Broadcasting from the serene Wandering Caboose Ranch in Banning, California, Clint reflects on the vital importance of self-love and how it intertwines with our understanding of God's love for us.

Clint begins by sharing a powerful segment from a podcast featuring Zachary Levi, where the actor candidly discusses his struggles with self-worth and the transformative impact of therapy. Levi's revelation that self-love is essential for personal happiness resonates deeply, prompting Clint to explore this theme further. He emphasizes the need to identify toxic self-talk and the lies we often believe about ourselves, which can hinder our ability to embrace God's unconditional love.

Throughout the episode, Clint outlines five actionable steps to cultivate self-love: identifying the lies we tell ourselves, repenting for believing those lies, rejecting them, breaking their power, and ultimately replacing them with the truth of God's love. He encourages listeners to engage in self-reflection and prayer, reminding us that we are all worthy of love and deserving of a fulfilling life.

Tune in to this enlightening episode of the Radio Coffee House to discover how to break free from negative self-perceptions and embrace the truth of God's love. Learn how to foster a healthier relationship with yourself, allowing that love to flow into your interactions with others and enriching your life in profound ways.
 
 🗣️ Quotes from the show
 "Self-love is not selfish; it's essential for understanding how much God loves us."
 "We must identify the lies we tell ourselves and replace them with God's truth."
 "You are worthy of love because you are an extension of God's love." 

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>> Clint Armitage (00:01):
Welcome to another edition of the Radio Coffeeh House
show, where Jesus meets coffee meets talk
radio. And the next one starts right
now.
Hey, how's it going, everybody? Clint Armitage with the Radio Coffee
House. Thanks for coming back and thanks for listening in.
We're back again doing another road show.

(00:23):
Now we're going toa be doing the format just a little
bit differently from here on out, least until God
tells me something different, because God has kind of come back to me
with how he would like it
done. At least this is what I'm sensing here. So I'm
changing up the format just a little bit, but
for the most part, we're just going to be talking about Jesus

(00:43):
and how he needs to come
in. We need to allow him in and then allow him
to change our lives.
So we're going to start off this episode
with an actor. His name is
Zachary Levi. Now, what I did
was I went ahead and caught a podcast from
George Jankco and Zachary Levi. Watch the whole thing.

(01:04):
It'like two hours and something minutes. But what we're gonna
do is we're gonna listen to the last,
you know, like six minutes of the last
portion of, uh, the podcast.
And this is where Zachary Levi, you know,
the actor from Shazam and all that,
talks about love and are we worthy
of God's love and do we have self love?

(01:26):
And he explains it so eloquently. And then we'ren toa break it down
and get in deeper, a little bit further. But let's
go ahead and listen to what he has to say. Let's start with
that.
All right, everybody, so let's get into this podcast here.
So I'm gonna play Zachary Levi. He's getting
the last question that George Jank was asking

(01:47):
him, trying to help other people. So let's
listen to that, and then I'm gonna give you my comments and we'll talk about a little
bit more and get a little bit deeper into it.

>> George Janko (01:55):
Okay, let's play it before we land this plane on this
podcast.

>> Zachary Levi (01:58):
Yes.

>> George Janko (01:59):
I just have one question for you. Just, um, so
people can have an amazing takeaway and learn from you.
You're in the same field that you were when you were not
truly feeling yourself and you weren't in a happy place, and now
you're here and you're conquering. Thank God. What
advice would you give somebody who's
really hurt, confused, lost,
broken, but knows they should be in this

(02:22):
space? What advice would you give them to, like, get to
a place of happiness quicker?

>> Zachary Levi (02:30):
Well,
I think I think almost all of it comes down to are you
loving yourself?
Um, I had kind of made mention to it earlier
but so I,
I went m almost all of my adult life. I mean I'm
44 now, but at 37 I was a grown ass man and

(02:51):
I had a complete mental breakdown and I didn't want to live and I didn't know
why. And I was blessed enough to have the finances to
go away to like this super intensive
life changing, life saving therapy.
And while I was there I learned
that I didn't love myself. And that
blew my m. Mind because I had heard people

(03:11):
talk about self love and stuff prior to that and I didn't feel
like I ever actively hated myself. Like
I never, you know, I was like, I think I like myself. Like I
go play basketball and play video game, do hang out with my friends and
whatever it is. Um,
but it's, it was really um,
jarring when I realized that my self talk

(03:32):
again was so toxic.
Like if I ever screwed up or I wasn't
accomplishing what I thought I was supposed to accomplish or
you know, was failing or whatever, like the amount of
the, the way I would destroy myself in my own
words, in my own mind and in my own heart

(03:53):
was um, just outrageous. And when I was at
this therapy I would, you know, they, one of the therapists that asked
me when I had this breakthrough, they're like, you know, how
do you talk to yourself when you think you're failing,
whatever? And I told them, you idiot. Ah,
basically a lot of the same things that I was hearing from my
parents when I was growing up and they're

(04:13):
like, okay, do you ever use those words
with anybody? Like people that you love,
like your friends and family was like, God no. Like I wouldn't. Like
uh, not that I was some perfect saint or whatever, but I would never be like,
you idiot. Like, you know the ways in which I would
talk to myself. Like of course not. They go, so why do
you do that to yourself? Wouldn't that

(04:33):
be indicative of that? You aren't actually, you don't
actually love yourself. And it was like this
total life. It seems so simple. But
it was, but it was something I had never put together
and, and many other things by the way
that I learned there. But I really do think that at the,
at the, at the bottom of it all, right, like
you can do all kinds of work on yourself, but if you don't think

(04:56):
you're deserving of that work, if you don't
think that you, you're Deserving of a better
life, of a healthier, happier
you. Then none of that's going to stick. None of it's going to mean
anything. You're going to go nowhere. You've got to start at the root of it.
And the root of it is you are. You are
not just capable, you are worthy.

(05:16):
We are all worthy of
love. We are all worthy because I believe
we are. We are all
love. Like we are extensions
of God's love, whether we like it or not. Some people
are not great representations of that. Some people are much
better representations of that. But God uses anything and

(05:37):
everything, like the Force in Star wars, in and through all things.
And the sooner you recognize that, oh my gosh,
I'm an extension of God.
Like this miracle of a life, this
meat mech suit that I get to walk around in, right, is just an
encapsulation of my soul, which is piloting this
thing. This, this isn't me. This is, this is this cool

(05:57):
thing, but it's not me. Once this passes away, my
soul is not attached to this thing. My soul will,
you know, hopefully go on to be with God
in perpetuity. And so to
recognize the divine in
ourselves and other people, to see that God's fingerprints are
upon you and that, oh, my gosh, of course, then

(06:17):
therefore you are worthy of that love. Of course you
are. And by the way, so is
everyone else. And so is everyone else,
even heads, even the people that we
go, who and why is this person and why do they do what
they're doing? I wish they would stop. Absolutely, I
agree with you. But even they are still,

(06:37):
uh, an extension of God's power
and reach and touch. And so.
And then one might ask, well, how do you go about loving
yourself? Right? That's, that's the hard part.
But I think that starts with capturing your
thoughts when you start. And I do this to this day,
when I start to really just gang up on

(06:58):
myself, when I start to beat up on myself, when I start to.
I. You know, the Bible talks about it, like, taking
your thoughts captive, like, do not give them a foothold.
Dud. That's the enemy. That's the darkness. The darkness wants you to
believe that you are worthless, that you are not loved,
that, that you're, uh, by the way, by yourself, that
nobody is an idiot like you, Nobody'suffering like
you. Like you shouldn't talk to anybody about it because it's only going to make

(07:21):
worse. That is the lies of the
darkness. And so we have got to be able to,
to filter that and say, no, no, no, no, no.
I know that I am beloved. I'm beloved by my Creator.
I was fearfully and wonderfully created, knit together in my mother's
womb. This I know, which means I'm
deserving of that love.

(07:42):
And apply that to yourself and that and the grace and
the forgiveness and the empathy and the mercy and all of the things
that come along with that in doing
that, when you really start to soften to yourself and
then you can, then you can start to really, you know, like, oh,
that I think I can'apply. That. I can apply eating better to
myself. I can apply getting up and moving my body
more. I can apply these because you know what I'm worthy of, that I

(08:05):
don't need to keep O, uh, you idiot, then I'm not going
to start because I'm a piece of. I'm not'm not worthy of it. No,
you are. Go live that life. Go live that best life and
loving yourself and loving others.

>> Clint Armitage (08:16):
Okay. I loved the way
he listed that out because for the
most part, most of us can't really
identify us not loving ourselves, right?
We're pretty selfish beings, right, as humans. So
it's a little bit tougher to understand that some people know
full well that they don't like themselves, they don't love
themselves. And you see them acted out. You

(08:38):
know, there's all different reasons why people don't love
themselves. And what I want to talk about
today is, uh, getting past that and looking at
the fact that, hey, maybe we have to take a
deeper look. Maybe we have to take inventory or an
assessment of how we feel about ourselves.
Because that's the first thing I thought about was, hey, do I really
love myself? Then when Zachary Levi brought

(09:01):
up the fact that he would call himself
names when he made mistakes or did something
wrong or whatever, he actually
brought to light the same thing I do. I
noticed because then I started thinking about it. I'm like, hey, you know
what? I actually
do call myself names, you know, like
idiot and dork and why'd you do that?

(09:22):
And you're so dumb, that kind of thing. And
I thought, oh, it's nothing. I'm not really meaning it.
But, you know, technically, if it's coming out
of my mouth, then it's an overflow of the heart.
Just like Jesus says, right out of the mouth is
the overflow of the heart. So it is coming out of my mouth. So
I started thinking about this and I said, wait a minute, how many
people are having this type of issue?

(09:45):
They may think they don't have a problem with loving themselves.
But then when you actually look at the words that are
coming out of our mouths speaking
about ourselves, it makes sense that, hey, maybe
we should love ourselves more. Now, I'm not talking about super
self love, like being, uh, a narcissist. We're not talking
about that. What we're talking about is understanding how much

(10:05):
God loves each and every one of us and then taking that
love and also
injecting it into our thinking and
our heart and our mind so that we understand
that we can love ourselves even
more. And then ll we'll understand God's love
for us. And that way it will exude

(10:25):
and the stuff that comes out of our mouth and the stuff that comes out of
our actions will actually exude God's
love, like Zachary Levi is s talking about here in the
podcast.
Okay, so now I'm going to bring
up a few different things so five
different things that we can look at on how to
reflect on this and actually change

(10:46):
the way we think about ourselves if we're having
problems really loving ourselves,
truly loving ourselves the way God loves us.
Okay, so number one, the first thing we need to do
is identify the lie. And for me, it happened when
I watched that podcast, when I actually heard
Zachary Levi talk about himself and how he. He
literally cussed at himself. Now, I don't cuss at

(11:07):
myself, but I do call myself names sometimes,
like I said, like idiot. Sometimes I'll say that to
myself. And, uh, that's
when I really realized, hey, wait a minute. Those are
words that are not self loving. And I really
have to understand that in every aspect of my life
in order for me to not only take it in, absorb it,

(11:28):
live it, but then actually let it flow from
me so I can show God's love to other people. There is no way I
can show God's love to other people if I have a problem loving
myself. And I didn't even realize it until I identified it.
And that podcast actually helped. So thanks, George
Janko, and thanks Zachary Levi.
So that's number one, identify the lie.

(11:48):
Now number two, we have to repent
for believing the lie. So I asked God
for forgiveness and understanding
and for him to show me to clarify
what his love is, how his love has
enveloped me and what he has done so that I
can understand how to love myself

(12:09):
better, how to love me like she loves me.
Because if we do that, then we'll be able to
really capture, really embrace
God's love for us. So we have to repent
for it. Now, it's simple. That's what I
did. I just said, lord, I am sorry for thinking the way I
think about myself. I said, lord, help me to

(12:30):
see better ways to love myself. Help me to
identify more of these lies. Help me to change my
thinking about myself so that I
can understand how you love me. And that's how I want
to look at myself, how you do. And so I
did that. I repented for believing that lie. So
that's number two. So number one, identifying the lie. Number

(12:50):
two, repent for believing the lie. And now number
three, we need to reject the lie. We need to
understand it's a lie. It's a lie either
coming from ourselves, from Satan,
or from the world. Because remember,
everything in the world is against
Christianity. That means everything in the world is against
God. Which means everything in the world is against

(13:12):
you trying to live your best life
in God. So you cannot live your
best life in and through God in
this world if you accept what the world tells
you because it lies to
you. It tells you you're not good enough.
It tells you you're nevernna make it. It tells
you you can't. And God

(13:35):
says, no, you can
do whatever I want you to do. You
can be whoever I want you to be. I
love you so much. I died for
you. I need you to understand that that's what
God is telling you right now. So number three,
we reject the lie.
Algh, so we got 1, 2, 3.

(13:56):
Let's go to number four now. Number four, we need to
break the power of the lie. And
this is what I've kind of, uh, recognized over this time of
me kind of figuring this stuff out or at least
allowing the Lord to kind of show me about
these lies is breaking the power of
the lie doesn't happen overnight.
Sometimes, sometimes it takes multiple

(14:19):
times for me to come to the Lord and say, lord, please
take this from me. Please take these thoughts. Please
take this way of seeing things and understanding
things and loving things. I don't get it
yet. And so I couldn't give it over because I didn't understand
it fully. But every day that I went
to the Lord and I repented and then I asked

(14:40):
for help, each day became easier and easier and
easier. And now it's so much easier for me to look at myself
and say, I love myself because
God loves me, not because I'm anything.
It's because God is everything. And so
I have to break the power of the lie. Some
lies are so huge because they're so embedded

(15:00):
in our brain and in our heart and in our thoughts and in
our makeup. Because they came to us when we were
kids. The power of those lives came
to us sometimes when we were kids, either from our
parents, another person, a, um, guardian, a,
uh, relative, brother's sister, cousin, friend,
who knows where that lifeie came from.

(15:21):
Because if you think about it, that non
self loving lie a lot of the times
goes way back to your childhood. You aren't
good enough, you can't make it, you can't
do this, you can't, can't, can't. And then
we start believing it, and then we start limiting
ourselves. And then we have fear and then we have

(15:41):
doubt. And then we don't do things that the Lord
is asking us to do because we are doubting ourselves,
we are doubting God and we're not trusting
him to love us to the fullest,
even though he does. It's because of all
the self hatred we have.
And it could have been from someone else, it could have started from

(16:01):
someone else. And you could have had things happen to you when
you're a kid, really bad things. And
that creates lies. And then there's this
power that holds on to you, this power that
holds on to us. And then we don't want to let it go because we're
fearful that if we let it go, something else
is gonna happen. And then we're vulnerable and we're

(16:22):
open and we don't trust it.
And that ultimately comes down to not trusting God. So
we have to break the power of this lie. And not
only that, not only do we have to break the power
of the lie once, we may have to do it multiple
times, we may have to come back to him multiple times
on our knees and asking for help and asking for the

(16:42):
Lord's strength, asking for the Lord's courage and asking
for faith, our faith to be
increased. Like the father in
Mark 9 when he asked
Jesus to increase his faith,
maybe that's something we need to do. Maybe we have to do it
multiple times. Maybe we have
to get by ourselves and just sit with

(17:04):
God and be quiet and be
still and ask him to reveal
the areas in our life that are
lies, that we are believing and that
we are allowing to limit us to get closer to
him and to do things that he wants us to do
and to get on that path that he wants us to be on.

(17:24):
So we may have to break the power of that lie multiple
times. And then finally, number five,
we have to replace the lie with
the truth. We can't Just remove the lie.
Because then there's a void. And if there's a void,
something's going to fill it. And we don't want another lie or
the same lie to fill it. That's the way you're going to be

(17:44):
able to repeatedly win this
battle is by replacing the lie
with the truth. What's the
truth? The truth is God loves
you. The truth is you can do
whatever God has ordained you to
do. The truth is you are
as beautiful as God says you are. The truth

(18:06):
is you're as lovely as God says you
are. The truth is you're his
child and he will never leave you
or forsake you. And you don't have to be
fearful, you don't have to doubt. You don't have
to have any negativity towards yourself,
your surroundings, your environment or your
future, because God is with

(18:27):
you. So
we have to have that metanoia. Remember, I've talked about metanoia
multiple times. Except this time we have to
keep that metanoia going. It's necessary
that metanoia has to be constant, right? We
have to keep on having a fundamental change
of thinking and then staying on that path.

(18:48):
Metanoia, the Greek word for a fundamental change of
thinking. That's where repent comes from. So repenting
is not this total, uh, groveling. Now
you're sorry for what you did and you're convicted and you
move towards being forgiven,
but you have a fundamental change of thinking. A
metanoia. But this time we have to keep it
constant because the evil one'going to always come back

(19:09):
in. He's going to try to steal back what you have
already given to the Lord. And that's why sometimes
we have to break that power of the light over and over and
over and over. And in order to do that,
we help ourselves by replacing the lie with
the truth and repeat it as
necessary. We have to keep on repeating it until

(19:30):
we have absorbed it, we have captured it. We have totally
understood and embraced the fact that
God loves us and
nothing, nothing can take us out of his
hand. There's some relationships
that started this whole lie when you were
kids. Like I spoke about earlier,
there's some relationships that started these

(19:53):
lives when you're a teenager, when you're an
adult just last year,
who knows how current it is? But
we have to break the lie and then replace it with
the truth. And we put that truth on God. We place
everything on God. Now, not all
relationships can be reconciled. And that's one of the
problems. Sometimes we think we need to

(20:15):
reconcile every relationship. But remember, you
can only do what you can do. You do what God is
calling you to do. And then you wait,
be still and let God be God. If
they don't reconcile with you,
then you can't do anything about it. Don't go
past the point of where you're supposed to go. Don't

(20:36):
cross over that line because then you're getting into
an area that isn't about you, you, it's
about them. And if you start going over the
line, you actually begin to enable them,
which doesn't change the situation for you.
It actually continues. This
lie and the relationship that's going to hurt
you and them continuously.

(20:59):
You have to replace the lie with the
truth. And the truth is sometimes you can't
reconcile every relationship. So you have
to understand that. Do what God tells you to do and go up
to that line that he has set for you
and stay there and wait. And
hopefully with prayer, with love,
that person will reconcile with you.

(21:22):
You just have to be obedient, but you also
have to be okay with what you are called to
do. Your end of the
relationship. And ask God, lord
God, am I doing my part? Am
I doing what I am supposed to do?
These three words came to me from the Lord when I was
having trouble in a relationship that I had

(21:44):
been in. And these three words
have helped me so much
because I can only do what I'm supposed to do,
do what only God has called me to do, and then stop
there and allow the other person to do their
part for us to fully reconcile.
And these are the three words he gave me. He said,
time, space,

(22:07):
love, those three
things. Implement those three things.
Time, space, love.
And the Lord said, that's all you can do. So that's what you
do. And then you be still and know that I'm
God. And then God will take care of whatever
he needs to take care of in his time, in their

(22:27):
time, in the timeline, uh, that you're not a part of
necessarily because you've already done your part.
Okay, so there's the five things to
help us to get to that self love place.
But we have to get kind of, kind of unroot
some things here. And so Zachary Levi talks about this
self love and how he had an epiphany during some

(22:48):
therapy and that I had an epiphany while watching
him explain his therapy. And then hopefully you
have an epiphany from how I'm explaining
how you can get to a place of loving yourself better
and recognizing that you do love
yourself or you don't love yourself as much as you think you
do. And so I'm going to recap those five
things one more time. Number one,

(23:10):
identify the lie. Think about it. Sit
quiet and think about the lie. And it probably goes way
back and you'll recognize that lie.
There's probably more than one lie, but there's one major
one. Identify the lie. Number
two, repent for believing the lie.
Ask God to help you identify it, understand
it, repent for it. Because you were believing it all

(23:33):
these years and it's not true.
God says it is not true.
Number three, reject the lie.
Don't allow the lie
to permeate any longer. You need to
reject it full stop. Reject it.
Number four, break the power of the lie.

(23:55):
Don't believe it. And then don't allow it to have this
power over you. Give it to God.
Let it go. Do not let it have the power. Don't let
it suck you back in. And number
five, once you've removed that lie, you have to
replace the lie with the truth
and go back to the Bible and look through

(24:15):
all the verses that God
says. He loves you, he cares about you.
He will never leave you. He will never forsake you.
He died for you. He is for you.
And who can be against you? So there's the five
things that you can do to help yourself.
Love yourself better. Just like Zachary Levi
said. Wow. Thank you so much for listening.

(24:38):
My name is Clint Armitage and I appreciate your time
and coming back to the Radio Coffee House. And today's
podcast was actually done in Banning,
California, at a campsite called the
Wandering Caboose Ranch. And the campsite I'm at,
it's a beautiful campsite with a beautiful
view. You can check our X, uh,
Twitter X page that we kind of

(25:00):
just started putting info on. And, uh,
we'll put some photos and videos and stuff like that up on
there in the future here. So check that out. And
our handle over there is
RCH show
on X. Until next time, stay
safe and God loves you.

(25:26):
Thanks for joining us for another episode of the Radio Coffee
House show where we're all, uh, about Jesus, coffee and
radio. We'll see you next time.
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