September 3, 2024 • 35 mins
What if setbacks could actually fuel your success? This week on The Rant Podcast, we kick off season three with the extraordinary Tim Storey, a global thought leader and life strategist known for his transformative impact. We unravel the complexities of the mental health crisis in higher education and provide valuable insights for college students navigating obstacles. Tim underscores the significance of community and partnership, warning against the pitfalls of isolation. Plus, we explore how educators can foster mutual growth by sharing their experiences and creating a collaborative learning environment.
Ever wondered how a mindset shift can change your life? Tim introduces us to his 'Miracle Mentality' philosophy and shares inspiring stories from his journey as a life coach to over 300 entertainers. Growing up in Compton, Tim's exposure to broader horizons ignited his growth mindset. His humanitarian efforts and unique connections with celebrities and athletes reveal a multifaceted role dedicated to positive global impact. Learn the criteria for choosing a qualified life coach and why honoring everyone's unique journey is essential.
Imagine overcoming setbacks with resilience and a supportive community. In our final discussion, Tim provides actionable strategies for students to balance recovery from past traumas with new opportunities. Addressing the mental health effects of the pandemic, we emphasize the importance of reconnecting with the world outside. For educators, Tim advocates creating a platform where students can voice their struggles and feel supported. We wrap up with a heartfelt conversation on living fully in the moment and appreciating the present, showcasing the profound influence of a positive mindset.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, I'm Eloy Ortiz-Oakley and this is the
Rant Podcast, a podcast thatpulls back the curtain and
breaks down the people, thepolicies and the politics of our
higher education system.
Welcome to season three of theRant Podcast.
I'm excited about what we havelined up for season three and we
begin with a great guest tokick things off.
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He is a global celebrity andhis name is Tim Story.
Tim is an acclaimed pop culturethought leader.
He's an author, a speaker, alife strategist and a
humanitarian.
He's been called the coach tothe stars.
In his recent book, the MiracleMentality has Been Improving
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Lives Around the World byChanging Setbacks to comebacks.
He is a frequent guest onnational outlets like CNN, good
Morning America and the TodayShow.
Tim and I sat down on thecampus of the University of
California, irvine, to talkabout his book his amazing life.
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Talk about his book, hisamazing life and how college
students can overcome setbacksand develop a strong mindset to
get through the challenges ofthe mental health crisis growing
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I hope you enjoy myconversation with Tim Story on
the campus of the University ofCalifornia Irvine.
Go Anteaters.
Tim Story, great to see you.
Welcome to the Rant Podcast.
(03:11):
We're here on the campus of theUniversity of California Irvine
.
Yes, great to see you, and.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I think you got some degrees here, didn't you?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I've got a few degrees here, yes, and it's a
great campus and everyone shouldattend the University of
California Irvine.
Go Anteaters.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Well, thanks for being here on the rant Wonderful
to see you and thanks fortaking time out of your hugely
busy schedule.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You're very, very welcome, so I'm loving this
discussion that we've beenhaving, and we were talking a
little bit about playing hurt,yes, and I think that, whether
you're a student or faculty,there's times in life you wake
up and things aren't perfect,but we were saying that that's
OK, because we all go throughrecovery and discovery at the
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same time, bring their pain towherever they're going.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Students here at the University of California Irvine,
like many campuses throughoutthe country, we see a lot of
first-generation students,students who are still
questioning whether they belongon a college campus.
You know they've been throughsome really tough situations in
their families, in theircommunities, so what advice do
you have to them?
How do they deal with theirpain, but also tap into that
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pain when they show up on acollege campus?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I would say one of the main things is the power of
partnership Is that when youcome on to a campus, whether you
live on the campus or outsideof the campus, it's very, very
important to look for community,because the community can
really be a strength for someone.
(04:49):
Isolation is just not good, andso, for any student that is
coming in, you will go throughups and downs through that
semester.
The pressure of the workloadthat you have maybe you're
working a job, but if you havepeople around you that are just
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strengthening you andstrengthening your mindset and
even doing positive thingssocially is a key.
The power of partnership isessential.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
And what advice do you have to the faculty members,
the administrators, who want toensure that these individuals
succeed on their collegecampuses?
How should they think aboutsupporting them but also sharing
their own life experience?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, I think the beauty of life experience is
that you know you've beenthrough something and you have
an understanding of it, and thatyou could share it with someone
and it could really be a changein another person's life.
(05:58):
I see that many times wheremaybe I'll talk to somebody
that's struggling with addictionand I'll say well, in my case
I've never had addiction todrugs or alcohol, but I come
from it, from you know my father, or maybe they're dealing with
anxiety or depression, andbecause I work in that field, as
(06:20):
we talked about earlier, I canreference that, and so I think
the beauty of the way I see theinstructor, the mentor and also
the person that is learning, thestudent in this case, is we're
all people at different stagesof our life and we can both grow
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from each other.
And I think you've seen thatobviously in your own life
because you are an instructorand you learn from the students
as well.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I can't tell you how much I value just being around
students, younger people I mean.
I have my perspective that wassort of created based on my life
experience, yeah, andparticularly in the point in
time that I grew up.
But just hearing the lifeexperience of my own kids, of
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young people that I interactwith students, on college way
that they view life is so muchmore expansive than the way I
viewed life as a young person.
The openness that they have toother people's life experience
is much different than the way Iwas taught, so I think it's a
great advantage for anybody.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, and I just want to say this for those that
follow me that are new to whatyou are doing your scope is vast
.
You help oversee so manystudents all over the state of
California and I appreciate whatyou're doing to help change
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people's lives.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Well, it's great to have people like you are some of
our previous guests who justgive so much to improving the
lives of young people.
So let's talk a little bitabout some of the fun stuff that
you do.
You are known as the coach tothe stars.
There's some clients of yoursthat I know many people would
know people like Charlie Sheen,Robert Downey Jr.
(08:28):
Even people like me wouldremember stars like Charlton
Heston and you've interactedwith all of those and many more.
What is that experience like,and how did you actually get
involved with all of thesecelebrities?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Again, it was a forced gut moment.
I was minding my own businessspeaking somewhere, and one of
my friends, diane Cannon, whowas married to Cary Grant.
She said I'm going to do thisgathering at my house in
Brentwood.
Just one of your friends, yeah,and the people that were there
was kind of blowed my mind.
(09:04):
Just one of your friends, yeah,and the people that were there
was kind of blowed my mind.
And so we started this groupthat we just wanted to grow.
It just kept expanding, got sobig and she says, tim, it's so
big we got to take it somewhere.
So we went to a hotel on SunsetBoulevard and the next thing,
you know, you would look out,you'd see Leigh Iacocca there,
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you'd see Quincy Jones there,then you would see Jessica
Simpson there when she was only15.
And you look over here andthere was Jared Leto and there's
Robert Downey Jr and there'sKanye West.
So it wasn't who came, it waswho didn't come.
I mean, we literally drew thebiggest stars in the world for
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about 25 years and I did it oncea month.
So I continue to life coach over300 entertainers.
I work with the best of thebest and it's a privilege and, I
think, one reason I get to doit is because I honor people.
I know a lot of people quicklywant to just say you know,
everybody's just a person.
(10:10):
You know what?
Everybody is a person.
But we should give honor topeople, whether they're a school
teacher, a janitor, the guythat delivers the mail or the
lady that delivers the mail,honor them.
And so, in the case of thosethat are entertainers, I've
always honored and I enjoy doingwhat I do.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So you talked about being a life coach.
Yes, a lot of people are sortof looking for somebody to help
them navigate life, bounce ideasoff of.
So in your mind, what is a lifecoach?
And for somebody in theaudience who's looking for help,
how does one find a life coach?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, I think that number one you should be careful
with which life coach youchoose, because in the past it
was more like clergy it was yourrabbi, your priest, your pastor
, and then also it could be yourtherapist, your counselor, your
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psychiatrist.
Life coaching started to becomea little more popular in the
70s.
I use my education of going toschool for about seven years to
learn what I've learned, to beable to instruct people.
I do think that someone can gothrough a life coaching
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certification program and dowell, but I think it takes time.
But also it's important for themotives to be correct, right
Cause we're, we're, we'reworking with people's lives,
right.
And so I think if you're lookingfor a life coach, make sure you
do a background check on themand see, uh, what other clients
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have said and what life coachingreally is is now and what's
next, where therapy is more pastand now.
So life coaching is now andnext.
Therapy is past and now, and sothe life coaching side is
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phenomenal.
If you could get the right lifecoach, that could help you
navigate things.
Watch out, I mean, and that'sthe beauty of my life I get to
life coach people that winAcademy Awards and they say
things like Tim.
I'm thinking about quitting thisreally is one person that won
Academy Award that I lifecoached within the last three
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that had said to me I'm thinkingof quitting.
It's not working the way Ithought it was going to work and
then to see them win theAcademy Award is amazing.
So I love seeing people'sdreams come true and I love to
see what's inside of them unfold.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
So your latest book, the Miracle Mentality yes, I've
had a chance to look through it.
A lot of great stuff in thisbook, but it's really about your
experiences.
It really starts out with yourown personal experiences.
So what inspired you to developthis concept that you call the
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miracle mentality, and how dopeople benefit from your
experience, your story and thismiracle mentality?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, I think.
Number one, that people learnthree primarily ways education,
conversation and observation.
So as a young guy in Compton,california, the education was
good.
I learned a lot and then latermoved to a place called Whittier
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, california.
Conversation was fair, it wasmainly around classmates and my
siblings.
But observation changed my life.
I went to Disneyland when I wassix and I went with my cousin,
esther, and some other people,and Esther was a little older
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than me, so we were able to runaround to these different lands.
They had this tomorrow land,frontier land, and when I saw
and observed this life that wasbigger than me, I thought, wow,
there's a lot more possible thanwhat I see, and so I see that
as the miracle.
Mentality of a miracle issomething extraordinary,
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uncommon and not normal.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
How did your life experiences sort of position you
to where you are right now?
What do you carry forward fromall those experiences?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
as a young person, I really believe that the fact
that people continue to exposeme to more than I was living is
a key to what I've been able toaccomplish in life, and what I
mean by that is by people havingme read books.
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I remember reading a book aboutthe life of Michelangelo
written by Irving Stone I wasonly in sixth grade and my mind
just went to another place andthen having conversations with
people who did well, and thenthey would explain to me how
they did well.
I was only 12 years of age, soI think, again, going back to
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the education conversation,observation.
Back to the educationconversation observation put me
into, as Carol Dweck talks abouta growth mindset than a fixed
mindset.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
So you are described as a life coach.
You're a well-known speaker,you're an author.
You interact with a lot ofcelebrities, helping them
improve their lives.
When people come up to you andthey meet you for the first time
, how do you describe what youdo?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I tell them I'm a humanitarian because I think
that's first and foremost what Ido.
I went to seminary and then Igot a doctorate in world
religion and a master's incounseling therapy.
Master's in counseling therapy.
I've been to 81 countries ofthe world helping people in
education, but also inhumanitarian efforts of finding
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ways to aid people anywhere fromfood and water resources.
So I am a humanitarian firstresources.
So I am a humanitarian first.
The idea of the situation withworking with athletes and then
entertainers after that wasalmost like a Forrest Gump
moment.
(16:53):
I was just minding my ownbusiness, doing some inner city
work in Florida.
I was only 22.
I created my own curriculum andsome stars in the NFL had found
out about this guy, tim Story,that was really making waves and
helping inner cities.
They approached me afterwatching me and one who was very
(17:14):
well-known said I have moneyand you have a gift, let's go.
And it was amazing because thisparticular gentleman who's very
well-known.
And it was amazing because thisparticular gentleman who's very
well known connected me toeight all pros.
I think probably six of themare in the Hall of Fame now and
they just started to back me upfinancially.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
And it just took off from the age of 22.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
So you began your work, working in the inner
cities.
Yes, and obviously, growing upin Compton, you faced many of
the same challenges that lots ofpeople growing up in inner
cities are faced with.
Matter of fact, you grew up nottoo far away from where I grew
up in Southeast LA, so peopletalk a lot about resilience and
(18:04):
think about who actuallysurvives those experiences.
What role do you thinkresilience plays in overcoming
setbacks you talk a lot about?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
setbacks.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
So what role does resilience play In your
experience?
How do people actually overcomethose setbacks?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Resilience is one of the biggest things in order to
come back.
So when you have a setbacknumber one you have to become
awake to get out of it.
You have to wake up.
Secondly, you have to takeinventory and say how much am I
injured from this setback that Ijust either created or happened
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to me?
Thirdly, you have to partnerwith the right people, and that
is a key.
We definitely need people topartner with that can help us
walk through our difficulties.
Fourth would be the principles.
We need the right principles toget to the right place.
Out of the principles comes aplan, and then the next step is
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the resilience, and I think thatthe resilience for people like
me and you is something that welearned by constantly having to
get back up again.
Right, and I remember I wastalking to Magic Johnson one
time.
He was going through adifficult time in his life and
he said to me Tim, people don'trealize what people like us have
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been through already.
Of course, we're going to getback up, so it was just a given
because we have been throughthings before, but the
resilience is such a key you gotto bounce back.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
So we're here on a university campus University of
California, irvine.
Yes, and my background has beenworking on many college
campuses, working with some ofthe most challenged individuals
trying to get an opportunitythrough post-secondary education
, and most of our audience isinvolved with that opportunity,
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giving people that opportunity.
So many of the students thatI've seen come through the doors
of the institutions that I'veworked at have had multiple
setbacks.
I mean, they grew up in asetback, as you've described in
your book.
What advice do you have tostudents who are approaching
this opportunity of getting intoa college, going to a
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university, trying to make it,given everything that they've
experienced, all the obstaclesthat they've experienced thus
far?
What advice do you have forindividuals like that to
overcome those obstacles andmost of them are internal, yes,
self-create.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
So what I would say to them and I do work with a lot
of students is we all gothrough recovery and discovery
at the same time.
Recovery is pain from our pastand challenges from our past and
then challenges from ourpresent.
So the recovery is the healingprocess that we go through.
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But if you're not careful,you'll get so caught up in the
recovery zone of just working onyour healing that you'll miss
the discovery zone.
The discovery is the unfoldingof something, and this is a
beautiful thing that you don'thave to become perfect until
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things start to work for you.
And it's important to note thatwe will always be slightly
undone.
I get to work with the best inthe world I'm 81 countries deep.
I get to meet with governmentofficials, presidents, kings of
countries, the greatest soccerplayers, football players in the
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world, entertainers Everybody'sundone, and so if you're a
19-year-old and you'restruggling with anxiety, you
know what.
You're slightly undone.
But I got my own challenges,everybody's got their own
challenges.
So let's go to recovery anddiscovery at the same time.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
You obviously experienced the pandemic, like
all of us, as an educator.
We saw some really troublingsigns leading into the pandemic.
A lot of students werereporting mental health concerns
yes, pressures that they werefeeling.
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And then the pandemic hit andthey were isolated.
How do you talk to young people, young adults, who went through
that and really see a muchdarker world today than they did
before and are challenged toget through those mental health
issues that they might have?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I would agree with you in that that particular time
of the pandemic and isolationreally worked harder on people
than people realize.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I agree.
It's easy to say I felt it.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, it's easy to say.
Like you know, we're notwearing masks as much, because
some people still do.
We're not six feet apart.
But you're right, the traumathat it hit people with has been
difficult for people to comeout and play again, and a lot of
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people have gone inward.
But here's what I find in lifewhen you're doing well, you go
outward.
It's like little kids whenthey're happy, they want to go
out and play.
If they're going throughsomething, they go inward.
So I think that we have tochallenge ourselves to go
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outward again, and that is toget back out into nature.
To get back out hiking, walkingon the beach, taking a drive,
even if you're not in the mood.
So even for a person likemyself, where I do therapy with
a lot of people one-on-one, it'sa lot.
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I'm hearing a lot of thingsthat are pretty overwhelming.
I walk seven days a week andit's out of necessity.
It's not just something likehey, I'm in the best mood to
walk, right, I need to getoutside and breathe, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Many of the students that I've worked with over the
years and that many of ourcolleges, universities who cater
to students of color, to firstgeneration students, I mean.
They're bringing a lot of painand personal experiences to the
table when they first arrive andin many cases it's hard for
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them to get a hold of atherapist.
Yeah, what advice do you havefor people who are working with
these young people collegeadministrators, people who are
trying to help them get throughtheir education, faculty members
who are trying to help them getthrough their education,
faculty members what advice doyou have for them in terms of
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how to best help theseindividuals who bring a lot of
trauma forward into theclassroom?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I think the thing that they need the most is one
of the most challenging thingsfor people to do, and that is
people need to be heard to do.
And that is people need to beheard.
And because so many of thementors, teachers, instructors
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are so busy and they're pulledin so many different directions,
sometimes it's difficult totake the time to hear the
stories.
So that's why I think thatcommunities that we would form,
where we could then have a formin which people feel like they
can talk, they can dialogue,it's a safe place within that
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community.
It's essential.
It is essential Because I worka lot in the rehab business drug
addiction, alcohol addictionand in the mental health space
and the last thing a personneeds, as I said prior, is
isolation, but one of the mainthings they need is they need to
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be able to converse withsomeone who understands.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Right.
Well, I think that's keySomeone who understands somebody
, who understands the lifeexperience of that young person.
That's why there's such a hugeemphasis.
I know this is in some placesacross this country.
It's a dirty word to talk aboutequity or diversity, but what
I've found is, if I'm hiringfaculty who come from
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communities, who come fromplaces where they understand the
life experience of those youngpeople, they can relate a lot
better.
They have much greater empathyregarding the life experience
that that person had and they'rejust better able to communicate
.
So obviously you have that lifeexperience.
So is that something that youuse when you're talking to
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people in therapy, bringingforward your life experience?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I really do type of clients that I work with is
because I work with a lot ofpeople who the world would see
as doing extremely well and Idon't really have some of that
in common with.
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They were maybe raised inBeverly Hills or they were
raised in the Hamptons.
So many times these guys willsay you know how we were raised,
thinking I was raised inBeverly Hills or somewhere like
the Hamptons.
So many times these guys willsay you know how we were raised,
thinking I was raised inBeverly Hills or somewhere like
the Hamptons or Palm Beach.
But what I do understand ispain.
I understand pain.
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My father passed away when Iwas only 10 in a car accident.
He was going to get my motherfood.
He was going through a greenlight, a person ran a red light
and my father passed.
And now my mother had to raisefive children working at a place
called Winchell's Donut Shop.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I know Winchell's well.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yes, and they still have good donuts.
But you know that kind ofimpact when you're 10 years of
age.
That kind of impact for mymother and the other four kids
because we had five total was sodeep that I still carry the
weight of part of it.
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But I'm okay with that becauseit's turning your test into a
testimony.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Right, that's how I see it.
People in leadership positionswho experience that pain.
Yes, how do you talk to themabout what to do with that pain?
Should they just ignore thepain?
Should they bring it forwardinto their life's work?
How do you talk to people aboutactually tapping into that pain
?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
That is a phenomenal question, because as a leader,
you do not want to overshareeither.
So I think that there could bea college professor or leader
who's maybe going to a divorce,Right, and you don't want to
come to the whole class and sayeverything you're going through.
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Sometimes you have to speak inparables and only tell people
parts of what you're goingthrough and maybe just saying
you know, I'm going through abit of a difficult time.
If you see that my mood is notthe same, just know that I'm
challenged.
I think that's enough.
Just to tell people you know,today is not a perfect day.
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I'll give an example Inmarriage counseling, when I'm
counseling a couple that'smarried or living together, I'll
say you know, you guys aregoing through something right
now.
Do me a favor, post it when youwake up in the morning and once
you have your coffee or tea orwhatever, give yourself about 30
(30:32):
minutes and then, either on themirror in the bathroom or like
on the refrigerator, post yourmood on a scale of one to 10,
how you're feeling.
So maybe the lady will postlike I'm at a five and then
he'll post I'm at an eight.
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So you know what.
Now we know how to deal witheach other, because she's not
feeling his eight and he's notfeeling her five.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I'm going to have to use that one.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
It's really a powerful thing.
It really is, and I think thesame as an instructor.
Right, there's times likecoming up.
In just a couple days I'llspeak to 4200 people.
Uh, in these conferences, we dothese conferences and we have
anywhere from kevin hard and Ijust did one with a rod, alex
(31:25):
rodriguez, right, you know, wetravel around Stephen A Smith,
the guy's from Shark Tank andthe one I just did in Madison
Square Garden.
A guy came up to me and he saidyou seem quiet, you seem a
little down.
I said no, I'm not down, butI'm quiet.
He goes how come you're quiet?
And I said because I was uplate last night helping this kid
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that's incarcerated.
And I said so I kind of havethat on my mind.
And he said are you going to beokay to speak?
And I said just watch, becauselisten after a while you get
good at playing hurt.
Right, but what I did, thoughit was nice of him to ask
because he saw that, uh, Iwasn't like laughing as much as
(32:15):
normal, but I think it's good tosometimes tell somebody I'm,
I'm at a five right, but I'mokay, that's great advice, so
let me ask you a couple of lastquestions as we begin to wrap up
.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yes so first of all, you know, in addition to being
an author and writing yourlatest book, the Miracle
Mentality, you also have sort ofthis network of people across
the country.
Yes, it's called World Shakers.
Tell us about that, and how didyou get this community started?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Okay, so you don't know this, but I brag about you
already.
So to quite a few of my friendsI've already bragged about you
because you're smart and I likethe way you think you care about
people.
So let's say I was talking toRoger Clemens like I just
interviewed him two days ago whoused to be this great baseball
(33:11):
pitcher.
Right, I may say to Roger oh, Iwas just with Deion Sanders the
other day and we were workingon something, and then I'd say,
well, how well do you know Deion?
Oh, I know Deion well enough,we play golf together.
So what I started to do isrealize, man, I know a lot of
really cool guys from around theworld.
Why don't I put together acommunity where we meet on Zoom?
(33:37):
So we have these Zoom callsfour times a month every other
Saturday, okay, and then everyother Tuesday night, okay, and
then every other tuesday night.
It's 104 men.
We've had 900 try to get in,but we've only chosen 104
because I'm looking for motiveslike why do you want to get in?
(33:59):
And so it is an amazingcommunity that we talk about
family, we talk about mindset,obstacles, guys cry, grown men,
and there's a lot of men thathave done well, but there's also
a lot of men that have donewell and lost everything, and so
(34:23):
it's not just a bougie crowdthat I choose.
I'm just looking for men whoare wanting to guide their
family and guard their family.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
So what's next for Tim Story?
I mean, it seems like you'realways stretching yourself,
getting out there, trying toreach more people.
What's on the horizon for TimStory?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I would say this that where I'm at right now is I'm
just in the moment.
When we had lunch recently Ihad so much fun.
I'm in the moment.
Obviously, our projects thatare coming up that most people
would think are pretty exciting,but I'm just in the moment.
I'm fully present, fullyfeeling, fully alive.
(35:07):
I'm so thankful that I know you.
I'm excited about some projectswe may do together with
students, but right now I'm justin the moment and very thankful
that I get to live the lifethat I'm living.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Well, and I'm thankful that you took time out
of your busy schedule to sitdown with us, to be here on the
Rant podcast, to share yourstory and to share the work that
you're doing and specificallyto talk about the miracle
mentality.
Thanks for being with us, Tim.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
All right everybody.
Thanks for joining us here onthe Rant podcast.
It's been my pleasure tointerview Tim Story His book is
the Miracle Mentality and doinggreat work all across the
country, so please check him out.
Thanks for being with us,everybody.
See you soon.
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I hope you enjoy myconversation with Tim Story on
the campus of the University ofCalifornia Irvine.
Go Anteaters.
Tim Story, great to see you.
Welcome to the Rant Podcast.
(03:11):
We're here on the campus of theUniversity of California Irvine
.
Yes, great to see you, and.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I think you got some degrees here, didn't you?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I've got a few degrees here, yes, and it's a
great campus and everyone shouldattend the University of
California Irvine.
Go Anteaters.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Well, thanks for being here on the rant Wonderful
to see you and thanks fortaking time out of your hugely
busy schedule.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You're very, very welcome, so I'm loving this
discussion that we've beenhaving, and we were talking a
little bit about playing hurt,yes, and I think that, whether
you're a student or faculty,there's times in life you wake
up and things aren't perfect,but we were saying that that's
OK, because we all go throughrecovery and discovery at the
(03:54):
same time, bring their pain towherever they're going.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Students here at the University of California Irvine,
like many campuses throughoutthe country, we see a lot of
first-generation students,students who are still
questioning whether they belongon a college campus.
You know they've been throughsome really tough situations in
their families, in theircommunities, so what advice do
you have to them?
How do they deal with theirpain, but also tap into that
(04:25):
pain when they show up on acollege campus?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I would say one of the main things is the power of
partnership Is that when youcome on to a campus, whether you
live on the campus or outsideof the campus, it's very, very
important to look for community,because the community can
really be a strength for someone.
(04:49):
Isolation is just not good, andso, for any student that is
coming in, you will go throughups and downs through that
semester.
The pressure of the workloadthat you have maybe you're
working a job, but if you havepeople around you that are just
(05:12):
strengthening you andstrengthening your mindset and
even doing positive thingssocially is a key.
The power of partnership isessential.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
And what advice do you have to the faculty members,
the administrators, who want toensure that these individuals
succeed on their collegecampuses?
How should they think aboutsupporting them but also sharing
their own life experience?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, I think the beauty of life experience is
that you know you've beenthrough something and you have
an understanding of it, and thatyou could share it with someone
and it could really be a changein another person's life.
(05:58):
I see that many times wheremaybe I'll talk to somebody
that's struggling with addictionand I'll say well, in my case
I've never had addiction todrugs or alcohol, but I come
from it, from you know my father, or maybe they're dealing with
anxiety or depression, andbecause I work in that field, as
(06:20):
we talked about earlier, I canreference that, and so I think
the beauty of the way I see theinstructor, the mentor and also
the person that is learning, thestudent in this case, is we're
all people at different stagesof our life and we can both grow
(06:44):
from each other.
And I think you've seen thatobviously in your own life
because you are an instructorand you learn from the students
as well.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I can't tell you how much I value just being around
students, younger people I mean.
I have my perspective that wassort of created based on my life
experience, yeah, andparticularly in the point in
time that I grew up.
But just hearing the lifeexperience of my own kids, of
(07:29):
young people that I interactwith students, on college way
that they view life is so muchmore expansive than the way I
viewed life as a young person.
The openness that they have toother people's life experience
is much different than the way Iwas taught, so I think it's a
great advantage for anybody.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, and I just want to say this for those that
follow me that are new to whatyou are doing your scope is vast
.
You help oversee so manystudents all over the state of
California and I appreciate whatyou're doing to help change
(08:05):
people's lives.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Well, it's great to have people like you are some of
our previous guests who justgive so much to improving the
lives of young people.
So let's talk a little bitabout some of the fun stuff that
you do.
You are known as the coach tothe stars.
There's some clients of yoursthat I know many people would
know people like Charlie Sheen,Robert Downey Jr.
(08:28):
Even people like me wouldremember stars like Charlton
Heston and you've interactedwith all of those and many more.
What is that experience like,and how did you actually get
involved with all of thesecelebrities?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Again, it was a forced gut moment.
I was minding my own businessspeaking somewhere, and one of
my friends, diane Cannon, whowas married to Cary Grant.
She said I'm going to do thisgathering at my house in
Brentwood.
Just one of your friends, yeah,and the people that were there
was kind of blowed my mind.
(09:04):
Just one of your friends, yeah,and the people that were there
was kind of blowed my mind.
And so we started this groupthat we just wanted to grow.
It just kept expanding, got sobig and she says, tim, it's so
big we got to take it somewhere.
So we went to a hotel on SunsetBoulevard and the next thing,
you know, you would look out,you'd see Leigh Iacocca there,
(09:25):
you'd see Quincy Jones there,then you would see Jessica
Simpson there when she was only15.
And you look over here andthere was Jared Leto and there's
Robert Downey Jr and there'sKanye West.
So it wasn't who came, it waswho didn't come.
I mean, we literally drew thebiggest stars in the world for
(09:50):
about 25 years and I did it oncea month.
So I continue to life coach over300 entertainers.
I work with the best of thebest and it's a privilege and, I
think, one reason I get to doit is because I honor people.
I know a lot of people quicklywant to just say you know,
everybody's just a person.
(10:10):
You know what?
Everybody is a person.
But we should give honor topeople, whether they're a school
teacher, a janitor, the guythat delivers the mail or the
lady that delivers the mail,honor them.
And so, in the case of thosethat are entertainers, I've
always honored and I enjoy doingwhat I do.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So you talked about being a life coach.
Yes, a lot of people are sortof looking for somebody to help
them navigate life, bounce ideasoff of.
So in your mind, what is a lifecoach?
And for somebody in theaudience who's looking for help,
how does one find a life coach?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, I think that number one you should be careful
with which life coach youchoose, because in the past it
was more like clergy it was yourrabbi, your priest, your pastor
, and then also it could be yourtherapist, your counselor, your
(11:14):
psychiatrist.
Life coaching started to becomea little more popular in the
70s.
I use my education of going toschool for about seven years to
learn what I've learned, to beable to instruct people.
I do think that someone can gothrough a life coaching
(11:37):
certification program and dowell, but I think it takes time.
But also it's important for themotives to be correct, right
Cause we're, we're, we'reworking with people's lives,
right.
And so I think if you're lookingfor a life coach, make sure you
do a background check on themand see, uh, what other clients
(11:58):
have said and what life coachingreally is is now and what's
next, where therapy is more pastand now.
So life coaching is now andnext.
Therapy is past and now, and sothe life coaching side is
(12:21):
phenomenal.
If you could get the right lifecoach, that could help you
navigate things.
Watch out, I mean, and that'sthe beauty of my life I get to
life coach people that winAcademy Awards and they say
things like Tim.
I'm thinking about quitting thisreally is one person that won
Academy Award that I lifecoached within the last three
(12:42):
that had said to me I'm thinkingof quitting.
It's not working the way Ithought it was going to work and
then to see them win theAcademy Award is amazing.
So I love seeing people'sdreams come true and I love to
see what's inside of them unfold.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
So your latest book, the Miracle Mentality yes, I've
had a chance to look through it.
A lot of great stuff in thisbook, but it's really about your
experiences.
It really starts out with yourown personal experiences.
So what inspired you to developthis concept that you call the
(13:23):
miracle mentality, and how dopeople benefit from your
experience, your story and thismiracle mentality?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, I think.
Number one, that people learnthree primarily ways education,
conversation and observation.
So as a young guy in Compton,california, the education was
good.
I learned a lot and then latermoved to a place called Whittier
(13:56):
, california.
Conversation was fair, it wasmainly around classmates and my
siblings.
But observation changed my life.
I went to Disneyland when I wassix and I went with my cousin,
esther, and some other people,and Esther was a little older
(14:19):
than me, so we were able to runaround to these different lands.
They had this tomorrow land,frontier land, and when I saw
and observed this life that wasbigger than me, I thought, wow,
there's a lot more possible thanwhat I see, and so I see that
as the miracle.
Mentality of a miracle issomething extraordinary,
(14:42):
uncommon and not normal.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
How did your life experiences sort of position you
to where you are right now?
What do you carry forward fromall those experiences?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
as a young person, I really believe that the fact
that people continue to exposeme to more than I was living is
a key to what I've been able toaccomplish in life, and what I
mean by that is by people havingme read books.
(15:16):
I remember reading a book aboutthe life of Michelangelo
written by Irving Stone I wasonly in sixth grade and my mind
just went to another place andthen having conversations with
people who did well, and thenthey would explain to me how
they did well.
I was only 12 years of age, soI think, again, going back to
(15:39):
the education conversation,observation.
Back to the educationconversation observation put me
into, as Carol Dweck talks abouta growth mindset than a fixed
mindset.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
So you are described as a life coach.
You're a well-known speaker,you're an author.
You interact with a lot ofcelebrities, helping them
improve their lives.
When people come up to you andthey meet you for the first time
, how do you describe what youdo?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I tell them I'm a humanitarian because I think
that's first and foremost what Ido.
I went to seminary and then Igot a doctorate in world
religion and a master's incounseling therapy.
Master's in counseling therapy.
I've been to 81 countries ofthe world helping people in
education, but also inhumanitarian efforts of finding
(16:32):
ways to aid people anywhere fromfood and water resources.
So I am a humanitarian firstresources.
So I am a humanitarian first.
The idea of the situation withworking with athletes and then
entertainers after that wasalmost like a Forrest Gump
moment.
(16:53):
I was just minding my ownbusiness, doing some inner city
work in Florida.
I was only 22.
I created my own curriculum andsome stars in the NFL had found
out about this guy, tim Story,that was really making waves and
helping inner cities.
They approached me afterwatching me and one who was very
(17:14):
well-known said I have moneyand you have a gift, let's go.
And it was amazing because thisparticular gentleman who's very
well-known.
And it was amazing because thisparticular gentleman who's very
well known connected me toeight all pros.
I think probably six of themare in the Hall of Fame now and
they just started to back me upfinancially.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
And it just took off from the age of 22.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
So you began your work, working in the inner
cities.
Yes, and obviously, growing upin Compton, you faced many of
the same challenges that lots ofpeople growing up in inner
cities are faced with.
Matter of fact, you grew up nottoo far away from where I grew
up in Southeast LA, so peopletalk a lot about resilience and
(18:04):
think about who actuallysurvives those experiences.
What role do you thinkresilience plays in overcoming
setbacks you talk a lot about?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
setbacks.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
So what role does resilience play In your
experience?
How do people actually overcomethose setbacks?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Resilience is one of the biggest things in order to
come back.
So when you have a setbacknumber one you have to become
awake to get out of it.
You have to wake up.
Secondly, you have to takeinventory and say how much am I
injured from this setback that Ijust either created or happened
(18:46):
to me?
Thirdly, you have to partnerwith the right people, and that
is a key.
We definitely need people topartner with that can help us
walk through our difficulties.
Fourth would be the principles.
We need the right principles toget to the right place.
Out of the principles comes aplan, and then the next step is
(19:11):
the resilience, and I think thatthe resilience for people like
me and you is something that welearned by constantly having to
get back up again.
Right, and I remember I wastalking to Magic Johnson one
time.
He was going through adifficult time in his life and
he said to me Tim, people don'trealize what people like us have
(19:36):
been through already.
Of course, we're going to getback up, so it was just a given
because we have been throughthings before, but the
resilience is such a key you gotto bounce back.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
So we're here on a university campus University of
California, irvine.
Yes, and my background has beenworking on many college
campuses, working with some ofthe most challenged individuals
trying to get an opportunitythrough post-secondary education
, and most of our audience isinvolved with that opportunity,
(20:15):
giving people that opportunity.
So many of the students thatI've seen come through the doors
of the institutions that I'veworked at have had multiple
setbacks.
I mean, they grew up in asetback, as you've described in
your book.
What advice do you have tostudents who are approaching
this opportunity of getting intoa college, going to a
(20:38):
university, trying to make it,given everything that they've
experienced, all the obstaclesthat they've experienced thus
far?
What advice do you have forindividuals like that to
overcome those obstacles andmost of them are internal, yes,
self-create.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
So what I would say to them and I do work with a lot
of students is we all gothrough recovery and discovery
at the same time.
Recovery is pain from our pastand challenges from our past and
then challenges from ourpresent.
So the recovery is the healingprocess that we go through.
(21:17):
But if you're not careful,you'll get so caught up in the
recovery zone of just working onyour healing that you'll miss
the discovery zone.
The discovery is the unfoldingof something, and this is a
beautiful thing that you don'thave to become perfect until
(21:37):
things start to work for you.
And it's important to note thatwe will always be slightly
undone.
I get to work with the best inthe world I'm 81 countries deep.
I get to meet with governmentofficials, presidents, kings of
countries, the greatest soccerplayers, football players in the
(22:01):
world, entertainers Everybody'sundone, and so if you're a
19-year-old and you'restruggling with anxiety, you
know what.
You're slightly undone.
But I got my own challenges,everybody's got their own
challenges.
So let's go to recovery anddiscovery at the same time.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
You obviously experienced the pandemic, like
all of us, as an educator.
We saw some really troublingsigns leading into the pandemic.
A lot of students werereporting mental health concerns
yes, pressures that they werefeeling.
(22:49):
And then the pandemic hit andthey were isolated.
How do you talk to young people, young adults, who went through
that and really see a muchdarker world today than they did
before and are challenged toget through those mental health
issues that they might have?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I would agree with you in that that particular time
of the pandemic and isolationreally worked harder on people
than people realize.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I agree.
It's easy to say I felt it.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, it's easy to say.
Like you know, we're notwearing masks as much, because
some people still do.
We're not six feet apart.
But you're right, the traumathat it hit people with has been
difficult for people to comeout and play again, and a lot of
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people have gone inward.
But here's what I find in lifewhen you're doing well, you go
outward.
It's like little kids whenthey're happy, they want to go
out and play.
If they're going throughsomething, they go inward.
So I think that we have tochallenge ourselves to go
(24:09):
outward again, and that is toget back out into nature.
To get back out hiking, walkingon the beach, taking a drive,
even if you're not in the mood.
So even for a person likemyself, where I do therapy with
a lot of people one-on-one, it'sa lot.
(24:31):
I'm hearing a lot of thingsthat are pretty overwhelming.
I walk seven days a week andit's out of necessity.
It's not just something likehey, I'm in the best mood to
walk, right, I need to getoutside and breathe, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Many of the students that I've worked with over the
years and that many of ourcolleges, universities who cater
to students of color, to firstgeneration students, I mean.
They're bringing a lot of painand personal experiences to the
table when they first arrive andin many cases it's hard for
(25:13):
them to get a hold of atherapist.
Yeah, what advice do you havefor people who are working with
these young people collegeadministrators, people who are
trying to help them get throughtheir education, faculty members
who are trying to help them getthrough their education,
faculty members what advice doyou have for them in terms of
(25:33):
how to best help theseindividuals who bring a lot of
trauma forward into theclassroom?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I think the thing that they need the most is one
of the most challenging thingsfor people to do, and that is
people need to be heard to do.
And that is people need to beheard.
And because so many of thementors, teachers, instructors
(25:58):
are so busy and they're pulledin so many different directions,
sometimes it's difficult totake the time to hear the
stories.
So that's why I think thatcommunities that we would form,
where we could then have a formin which people feel like they
can talk, they can dialogue,it's a safe place within that
(26:20):
community.
It's essential.
It is essential Because I worka lot in the rehab business drug
addiction, alcohol addictionand in the mental health space
and the last thing a personneeds, as I said prior, is
isolation, but one of the mainthings they need is they need to
(26:45):
be able to converse withsomeone who understands.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Right.
Well, I think that's keySomeone who understands somebody
, who understands the lifeexperience of that young person.
That's why there's such a hugeemphasis.
I know this is in some placesacross this country.
It's a dirty word to talk aboutequity or diversity, but what
I've found is, if I'm hiringfaculty who come from
(27:11):
communities, who come fromplaces where they understand the
life experience of those youngpeople, they can relate a lot
better.
They have much greater empathyregarding the life experience
that that person had and they'rejust better able to communicate
.
So obviously you have that lifeexperience.
So is that something that youuse when you're talking to
(27:34):
people in therapy, bringingforward your life experience?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I really do type of clients that I work with is
because I work with a lot ofpeople who the world would see
as doing extremely well and Idon't really have some of that
in common with.
(27:59):
They were maybe raised inBeverly Hills or they were
raised in the Hamptons.
So many times these guys willsay you know how we were raised,
thinking I was raised inBeverly Hills or somewhere like
the Hamptons.
So many times these guys willsay you know how we were raised,
thinking I was raised inBeverly Hills or somewhere like
the Hamptons or Palm Beach.
But what I do understand ispain.
I understand pain.
(28:19):
My father passed away when Iwas only 10 in a car accident.
He was going to get my motherfood.
He was going through a greenlight, a person ran a red light
and my father passed.
And now my mother had to raisefive children working at a place
called Winchell's Donut Shop.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I know Winchell's well.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yes, and they still have good donuts.
But you know that kind ofimpact when you're 10 years of
age.
That kind of impact for mymother and the other four kids
because we had five total was sodeep that I still carry the
weight of part of it.
(29:02):
But I'm okay with that becauseit's turning your test into a
testimony.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Right, that's how I see it.
People in leadership positionswho experience that pain.
Yes, how do you talk to themabout what to do with that pain?
Should they just ignore thepain?
Should they bring it forwardinto their life's work?
How do you talk to people aboutactually tapping into that pain
?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
That is a phenomenal question, because as a leader,
you do not want to overshareeither.
So I think that there could bea college professor or leader
who's maybe going to a divorce,Right, and you don't want to
come to the whole class and sayeverything you're going through.
(29:49):
Sometimes you have to speak inparables and only tell people
parts of what you're goingthrough and maybe just saying
you know, I'm going through abit of a difficult time.
If you see that my mood is notthe same, just know that I'm
challenged.
I think that's enough.
Just to tell people you know,today is not a perfect day.
(30:11):
I'll give an example Inmarriage counseling, when I'm
counseling a couple that'smarried or living together, I'll
say you know, you guys aregoing through something right
now.
Do me a favor, post it when youwake up in the morning and once
you have your coffee or tea orwhatever, give yourself about 30
(30:32):
minutes and then, either on themirror in the bathroom or like
on the refrigerator, post yourmood on a scale of one to 10,
how you're feeling.
So maybe the lady will postlike I'm at a five and then
he'll post I'm at an eight.
(30:54):
So you know what.
Now we know how to deal witheach other, because she's not
feeling his eight and he's notfeeling her five.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I'm going to have to use that one.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
It's really a powerful thing.
It really is, and I think thesame as an instructor.
Right, there's times likecoming up.
In just a couple days I'llspeak to 4200 people.
Uh, in these conferences, we dothese conferences and we have
anywhere from kevin hard and Ijust did one with a rod, alex
(31:25):
rodriguez, right, you know, wetravel around Stephen A Smith,
the guy's from Shark Tank andthe one I just did in Madison
Square Garden.
A guy came up to me and he saidyou seem quiet, you seem a
little down.
I said no, I'm not down, butI'm quiet.
He goes how come you're quiet?
And I said because I was uplate last night helping this kid
(31:52):
that's incarcerated.
And I said so I kind of havethat on my mind.
And he said are you going to beokay to speak?
And I said just watch, becauselisten after a while you get
good at playing hurt.
Right, but what I did, thoughit was nice of him to ask
because he saw that, uh, Iwasn't like laughing as much as
(32:15):
normal, but I think it's good tosometimes tell somebody I'm,
I'm at a five right, but I'mokay, that's great advice, so
let me ask you a couple of lastquestions as we begin to wrap up
.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yes so first of all, you know, in addition to being
an author and writing yourlatest book, the Miracle
Mentality, you also have sort ofthis network of people across
the country.
Yes, it's called World Shakers.
Tell us about that, and how didyou get this community started?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Okay, so you don't know this, but I brag about you
already.
So to quite a few of my friendsI've already bragged about you
because you're smart and I likethe way you think you care about
people.
So let's say I was talking toRoger Clemens like I just
interviewed him two days ago whoused to be this great baseball
(33:11):
pitcher.
Right, I may say to Roger oh, Iwas just with Deion Sanders the
other day and we were workingon something, and then I'd say,
well, how well do you know Deion?
Oh, I know Deion well enough,we play golf together.
So what I started to do isrealize, man, I know a lot of
really cool guys from around theworld.
Why don't I put together acommunity where we meet on Zoom?
(33:37):
So we have these Zoom callsfour times a month every other
Saturday, okay, and then everyother Tuesday night, okay, and
then every other tuesday night.
It's 104 men.
We've had 900 try to get in,but we've only chosen 104
because I'm looking for motiveslike why do you want to get in?
(33:59):
And so it is an amazingcommunity that we talk about
family, we talk about mindset,obstacles, guys cry, grown men,
and there's a lot of men thathave done well, but there's also
a lot of men that have donewell and lost everything, and so
(34:23):
it's not just a bougie crowdthat I choose.
I'm just looking for men whoare wanting to guide their
family and guard their family.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
So what's next for Tim Story?
I mean, it seems like you'realways stretching yourself,
getting out there, trying toreach more people.
What's on the horizon for TimStory?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I would say this that where I'm at right now is I'm
just in the moment.
When we had lunch recently Ihad so much fun.
I'm in the moment.
Obviously, our projects thatare coming up that most people
would think are pretty exciting,but I'm just in the moment.
I'm fully present, fullyfeeling, fully alive.
(35:07):
I'm so thankful that I know you.
I'm excited about some projectswe may do together with
students, but right now I'm justin the moment and very thankful
that I get to live the lifethat I'm living.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Well, and I'm thankful that you took time out
of your busy schedule to sitdown with us, to be here on the
Rant podcast, to share yourstory and to share the work that
you're doing and specificallyto talk about the miracle
mentality.
Thanks for being with us, Tim.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
All right everybody.
Thanks for joining us here onthe Rant podcast.
It's been my pleasure tointerview Tim Story His book is
the Miracle Mentality and doinggreat work all across the
country, so please check him out.
Thanks for being with us,everybody.
See you soon.
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