June 18, 2025 • 38 mins
Ever wonder why the pet food industry makes feeding your dog or cat seem so complicated? This eye-opening conversation between DeDe Murcer-Moffett and Dr. Judy Jasek cuts through the noise to reveal a simple truth: your pet was designed to eat raw, unprocessed food.
We dive into the everyday toxins potentially harming your pet that most owners never consider. From chlorinated tap water causing skin issues to chemical pest treatments slowly poisoning your furry companions, these hidden dangers deserve your attention. Dr. Jasek shares her personal approach to creating a healthier environment, including whole-house water filtration systems and natural alternatives to chemical herbicides that actually improve soil health rather than destroy it.
The most provocative portion of our discussion challenges the fundamental contradictions in conventional veterinary nutrition advice. How can highly processed foods with unpronounceable ingredients possibly be healthier than the diet dogs and cats evolved to eat over thousands of years? We address the common concern about bacteria in raw food with a simple observation: dogs regularly engage in behaviors like coprophagia (eating feces) without issue, yet we're meant to believe clean, properly handled raw meat poses a danger to them?
Raw feeding doesn't require complicated recipes or precise calculations. The natural simplicity of meat, bones, and organs from varied species provides exactly what your carnivorous companions need. When veterinarians make claims against species-appropriate nutrition, we encourage you to keep asking questions until you get satisfactory answers - or revealing non-answers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, snap, snap.
Well, hello, raw Feeders.
I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, ceoof a Raw Dog Food and Company
where your pet's health is ourbusiness, and we're friends,
like my friend, dr Judy Jasik,just like friends feed kibble,
but you're still friends withthem.
You know we talked about this.
We don't like, dislike you.
(00:23):
We're gonna give you theinformation.
What you do with that, it'syour business, right, dr Jasek?
That's right.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I mean, we can't make people feed a certain thing.
If they don't want to feed it,we can just tell them what's
going to happen when they don'tfeed their pets good, good diet.
But if they want to feed it andfall for all the marketing
things, well that's.
That's all we can do, becauseit's just a lot.
(00:51):
It's.
It's.
It's hard.
Well, you can't really convincepeople, but we spend a lot of
time putting this informationout there and when you're just
keep saying this stuff to peoplethat really aren't going to
change what they're doing anyway, it's a waste of our energy, so
I look at it as somebody whoreally wants to learn, truly
learn, Like I want to feed mypet, just that I'll talk to them
(01:15):
for however long it takes hoursbecause they really want to do
it and it's about what keepstheir pet being healthy and it's
about what keeps their petbeing healthy.
But when I, you know, realizethat somebody that there's
always when there's always areason why raw won't work, and
they haven't even really triedit, they're not going to feed
raw Right, so we're wasting ourtime and energy.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Great Cakes, cookies and chemicals, I don't know.
Sounds like a good diet for adog to me.
All right, hey.
On that serious note for a dogto me, all right.
Hey, we.
We did get a question, though,about the herbicide that you
talked about last week, and it'scalled fire hawk guys, fire
(01:57):
hawk bio herbicide.
Okay, and I'm going to get someof this too, dr Jacek, and you
were saying that it's safe forpets and it causes these weeds
to sort of just dehydrate, andwithout chemicals, so I like it.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, it's like it's some sort of organic acid, of
organic acid that is not toxicand it it just.
It like removes, like the waxycoating on the leaves, so that
the plants, that the plantsactually dehydrate.
And I think on the websitethere's a lot of information
about it and and they and theyactually tested the soil.
(02:42):
The other thing that's cool.
So a lot of your herbicidesalso destroy the microbiome in
the soil.
So to have healthy plants, youwant a good microbiome in the
soil, just like in us.
A good microbiome is importantand a lot of these chemicals
actually destroy that.
But this because it basicallyis just killing the plants
naturally because it'sdehydrating them.
(03:02):
The plants still decompose it,so it actually improves soil
health.
So, yeah, I got some.
We're in the process of movingso I haven't tried it yet, but
when we get to our next placeI'm definitely going to be
trying it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
So you're on the road again.
Now you're moving to anotherplace, which is awesome, awesome
.
You know, guys, here's thething If some place doesn't work
for you in life, you got tomove on, right?
There's a lot of people thatkind of hang out and do the same
thing over and over again.
They don't like what they do.
That's not us, right, we'regoing to.
We're going to move on, butyou're going to.
(03:35):
You're moving to another partof Tennessee, and that's awesome
.
We've also talked about that.
You're looking at reallyproviding some holistic options
for folks out there, so theyshould stay tuned to that.
I think this is so nice if youopen up some facilities where
(03:57):
people can actually go get bloodwork, get a lot of things done
that they can't get done intraditional veterinary medicine,
so that's going to be veryexciting.
I think you're going to besuper busy.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Maybe more busy than than I want to be, but but it's
going to be, um, you know, justisolated things that I think we
can do, um, that that peoplereally need that will really
benefit pets, that they don'thave to, you know, obviously get
a vaccine or something you knowto come in for.
Because I think, yeah, we weretalking about pet health is
(04:33):
really about wellness you feedthem right, you stop poisoning
them, and if you know they couldget some there without it
mandating, you know, withouthaving vaccines mandated, then
you know they could get somebasic care.
And again, I think it's theeducation.
I think people just need toknow what to do to keep their
pet healthy and then they, youknow, have the option of doing
(04:57):
that.
If people don't do what werecommend, well, and that's
their business.
But I think a lot of times.
There's so much confusinginformation out there that
people aren't sure what to do tokeep their pet healthy and they
just need a little support thatsay, yes, this is the right way
to go.
So, because the body knows howto be healthy our bodies and our
(05:19):
pets bodies we just have tostop poisoning them and give
them the right nutritional toolsto stay healthy.
And it's really that simple.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
You know I what is it about?
I mean, I get it.
People are like I don't wantfleas, I don't want even one
flea.
But you know what, dr Jasek?
I mean I get it, but you don'twant to be poisoning your pet.
(05:49):
You just don't want to be doingthat.
And I don't know how in theworld you're going to be able to
not poison your pet if you usethe standard stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
How are you going to do that If you use the standard
stuff, how are you going to dothat?
No, you can't.
And the natural stuff it's.
It's more of a process, youknow, because natural things
don't kill things veryefficiently.
So if you've got an issue withfleas in particular, you know
you've got to do stuff for for awhile.
You know the essential oilsprays and you got to repeat
(06:24):
them or put diatomaceous eartharound your house and I think
there are, like natural, whatthey call bombs for your house.
We have fog on fog your house.
I think there's some naturalones that use.
They don't use a lot ofchemicals, they use more of the
essential oil sprays and stuffto help get the fleas out.
But you have to do more stuffto get rid of them.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I remember I had fleas in my house.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
This was quite a few years ago, maybe 15 or more
years ago and um, I startedfinding fleas.
I figured just came in with thewildlife and there was just no
way I was going to use thosechemicals.
And so I did essential oils andI mean, I feel them in my hair,
I'd be in bed and I'd feel itNot, not, not, not fun, but like
(07:12):
there's just no way I'm usingthose chemicals.
So I'd spray down my pillow withthe essential oil sprays and
spray around the house and keepwashing the bedding and you just
keep after it.
I mean, it probably took acouple of months to completely
get rid of them, but but I did.
So you just have to kind ofstay after.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You just have to decide that it's worth being a
little inconvenienced to notpoison your pet.
Come on now.
You know, is it really thatdangerous to poison your pet?
Is it?
Is it, dr Daisy?
Come on now.
Is it just a little bit ofpoison, okay?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
is it, dr jason?
Come on now.
Is it just a little bit ofpoison?
Okay, I wouldn't want to poisonmy pet a little bit, I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I wouldn't want to poison myself even just a little
bit, so you wouldn't you know,I was listening to who's I
listened to the other day andthey were talking about maybe it
was dr paul saladino and he wastalking about these pesticides
on golf courses.
And he was talking about thesepesticides on golf courses and
he was saying you know what?
What he believes and what someof the research is showing is
(08:11):
that it's getting in the water.
Right, it's getting in in thewater, some people are drinking
the water.
And he was saying what'sinteresting is that these
golfers aren't necessarilygetting sick, but that's why you
should not drink like citywater, right, oh yeah, and and
that sort of thing.
But I thought that was veryinteresting.
And and do people realize, a lotof times when they're filling
(08:35):
up the water bowl, they're doingit from the spout Right, and
their dogs are drinking allthese chemicals?
Certainly, we don't.
We get, we get our waterdelivered in glass and um, but I
, I just you.
You gotta really be consciousof what is going in your dog.
So if you're doing flea andtick and doing heartworm, these
(08:57):
are two toxins right there, twopoisons, and then you're, you're
having them drink city water orwater.
Let's say you're, you knowthese different places that put
water out for dogs.
Yeah, where's that water comingfrom?
I think it's you gotta beconscious of it.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, and like the outside, you know, host pickets
and stuff.
People have a dish outside,pools for dogs, a lot of people
have swimming pools, like allthat stuff that comes out of
your house.
If your house is on city waterunless you've got your own, well
, all your hoses and everythingthat's all um, that's all
contaminated with who knows what, what chemicals we actually
(09:37):
haven't.
We'll do this be one of thefirst things we do.
In our new house.
We put in a whole house filterand they're a little expensive,
but I just feel that stronglyabout our health and it's
important that.
Like you know bathing.
So if any of you like for usshowering, you know you let all
those chemicals get loose in thesteam in your shower and then
(09:59):
your pores open up as it's warmand it's absorbed through your
skin.
And then the same thing withyour pet, if you're.
If you're bathing your pet.
I've actually seen pets likeitchy skin get better when they
were bathed in water that wasfiltered so it had no chlorine
in it.
I know, I'm really sensitive tochlorine, like I can't stand
smelling it or I mean it justreally bothers my skin and stuff
(10:22):
, and I think that can be a bigcontributing factor.
So, yeah, we will put a wholehouse filter on our house so
that our showers and everythingis filtered, and then our
drinking water.
We filter it again, so we doreverse osmosis, so we make sure
our drinking water is reallyclean and then out, like in my
garden, um, cause that comes in,you know, through the city,
(10:47):
city water too, but it's nothooked up to the house.
I, you can buy these filters.
They use them in RVs,recreational vehicles and this,
just this filter.
You just screw right into yourhose and it filters the water as
it goes to the hose before itwaters your plants, cause you
don't want to be watering theplants in your garden with
chlorine and fluoride andantidepressants and antibiotics
(11:08):
and all this stuff right, orpeople are peeing out.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
you know, I know it's it's just, it's just crazy.
But we can drive ourselvescrazy with all of this stuff.
But I think if you take the bigsteps right, like what are you
eating?
Are you eating processed foods?
Right, I don't think that youeat processed foods, dr Jasek.
So what is a processed food,guys?
(11:32):
Anything that's been changedfrom its natural, natural origin
, right.
So bread, right, is processed,and cupcakes, cookies, cereals,
all of that kind of stuff isjust so processed.
And I don't understand how theveterinary world can sell that
(11:59):
extremely processed food andthen put a name like
prescription on it.
I mean, it is totally andcompletely false advertising.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Absolutely Anything.
You don't know what I mean.
Read the actual ingredients,not the marketing, not just
because it says it's natural orit's good for joint health and
it gives a healthy, you know,shiny coat, but read the actual
ingredients.
If there's anything in there,you don't know what it is like.
Soy lecithin, I don't know whatsoy lecithin is, something
(12:35):
processed out of soy, evidently,but I don't know what it is
Corn gluten meal, hydrolyzed soyprotein.
I mean, if you don't know whatthat stuff is, if you don't know
what any of those ingredientsare, they're processed and you
shouldn't feed them.
It should say beef and liverand heart and kidney and spleen
(12:57):
and bone.
Everybody knows what those are,right.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, and, and you know the biggest thing,
obviously the biggest questionthat comes up is can my dog get
sick from eating raw meat?
Right, and the question is whatkind of sickness are we talking
about?
Is it harmful bacteria?
Okay, what is harmful bacteria?
(13:24):
And where is the documentationthat right?
So people are going to worryabout salmonella, and you know a
dog and a cat's digestivesystem is created to handle
(13:46):
bacteria with this.
You know intestinal flora, thehigh acidic stomach, the natural
enzymes.
It's going to help them processthe food that they were created
to eat.
So how is it that you knowthese dogs were created, or cats
(14:09):
are created, to eat raw, notcooked, dr Jasek, not cooked,
not freeze, dried, in reality,and certainly not processed?
How is it that they are goingto get sick from the food that
(14:30):
they are physically created toeat?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And especially when it's so clean, coming from these
companies.
I mean, dr Scavengers, theycould find roadkill and eat it
and probably be fine.
I was listening to this podcast.
This woman that's she's done allthis wilderness survival
training and stuff and sheteaches like what she calls
(14:58):
human skills, but it's likeliving off the land kind of
stuff.
She picks up roadkill andbrings it home and prepares it
for her family.
And at first that kind of tookme back and she's like, but
she's like, no, really Like, ifI see a deer get hit on the road
or she knows enough, she knowshow to check it.
If it's still warm she'll takeit home.
(15:19):
And she said one Christmas shelike found a deer right before
Christmas and she made sausageand like, like that was part of
her Christmas gifts foreverybody.
This roadkill killed deersausage.
But she's like, why are weletting that food go to waste?
She's like you know, all myfriends go to the grocery store
(15:40):
and buy so-called meat and theydon't even know what they're
getting.
I know what I'm eating.
It's a deer and she knows howto.
You know, you got to know howto process it properly.
But, could you imagine?
I mean, what do you think yourcustomers would say if you said
you put roadkill?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
They totally freak.
Do you know that in Coloradoand I don't know if it's this
way everywhere, because Ihaven't looked at it, but you
cannot?
Ok, let's just say, becausethere's tons of elk where I live
and I'm talking about, it willstop traffic and hundreds of
them will walk across the street.
Obviously, some of them get hitright, because they'll get out
(16:21):
there at night and people don'tsee them.
You can't just, even if I thinkyou're the one that hits it,
you cannot unless you have a tag.
You have some sort of a legalway that you can say yeah, a
(16:42):
hunting tag.
Let's just say that you can'tjust stop on the side of the
road and take it.
The police will get you, isn't?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
that silly.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
And I don't know yeah , and I don't know yeah, and
lots of laws that don't makesense yeah, and I don't know if
it's that everything is carriedso far out because somebody who
has no sense does somethingstupid.
I don't know if it's becausethey're like, hey, I don't want
(17:13):
somebody just hitting an animalon purpose so they can go out
and feed it to their family.
I don't know if that's why theydo it, but clearly, if an
animal has been hit on the road,should you as a human being get
in trouble for going andpulling it off the road and
(17:39):
seems like it would be doing aservice and getting it off the
side of the road.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's not otherwise, you just lay there and rot.
I mean, here it feeds thevultures.
We have so many vultures here,but you know they clean up the
roadkill.
Yeah, yeah, that's what they do.
But like why?
It's just from a practicalitystandpoint, why not?
I mean, an animal just lost itslife.
You know, to me it's honoringthe animal if it's, if its life
(18:03):
has some purpose and the meatgets eaten.
I mean, in nature, like youknow, it goes to there probably
be other critters come up andeat it, like the vultures or
foxes or coyotes or whatever.
But yeah, what's wrong withwe're're so far removed?
I think.
I think part of it too is likewe're so far removed from where
where food comes from.
(18:24):
Like the hamburgers don't comefrom McDonald's or the grocery
store, you know they come from acow.
That cow has to get killed, youknow, and and processed in a
processing plant for it to showup as hamburger at McDonald's or
in the grocery store.
I think people are so farremoved from where their food
(18:45):
actually comes from.
They just like's rummy, right,but you know I think.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I think a lot of this comes from people who need
something to talk about that'sand and need to assert their
authority, and what I mean bythat is people in our industry
make up this stuff about oh you,you, you can't feed your dog
this and you can't feed your dogthat, right in our, in our
(19:25):
world, in the raw world.
Think about these recipes, drJC, that are coming from some of
the superstars right in the inthe raw feeding industry.
Do you really need thesecomplicated recipes that make no
sense?
It's really super simple Meat,bones, organ and fat, different
(19:50):
species, turkey duck chickenpork yeah.
And and make sure that you'vegot that species bones and that
species organs and that speciesmeat Right and move it around.
Don't get hung up just onturkey or chicken.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Feed the brains and the testicles, and all that
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Right, right, right, but this industry, people want
recipes and it's like what, what, what?
What are we trying to do here?
And that goes back to themicromanaging of the vitamins
and minerals, right?
Well, first of all, if you'regoing to micromanage them,
(20:40):
micromanage them.
Do you know all of the vitamins, minerals, every single one of
them, that are in meat, bones,organ and fat?
Do you know which ones your dogis lacking?
Do you know, if you combinethis and this, how that's going
to synergistically work?
I mean, there's so much of itthat you cannot know.
We don't even know it about ourown food.
How can you know it about a dog?
(21:01):
What we replicate why this dietcame about, was because we know
they're descendants, they'rethe ancestors of the wolf and
the dingo, and neither one ofthose species eat cooked.
(21:21):
They don't eat freeze-dried andthey don't worry about all
these little different vitaminsand minerals.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
They have trouble building fires because they
don't have opposable thumbs tocook their food.
You know they can't build thefires to cook their food.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Right, right, right.
So I get it that some peoplewant to make it really
complicated, but what I thinkabout that complication?
It causes them to go back to aninferior product, which is
kibble.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I think there's a lot of anthropomorphizing, because,
you know, when humans cook,they typically go to a cookbook
and get a recipe you know, andthen they follow all the
instructions on the recipe.
I think they're used to thatand I think, like what you were
saying about, like we don't knowwhat's actually like, what are
(22:14):
all the vitamins and mineralsand nutrients in meat?
People don't know.
Because what people will say tome well, like, how is the diet
complete if I'm just feedingmeat?
Like I think they think it'sjust protein.
I think what people sometimesthink is like, well, I'm just
feeding, and they they'll saythis, even though they're
feeding a blend like yours Well,if I'm just feeding meat, then
(22:36):
all I'm feeding is protein, likeit has no other nutritional
value.
And so then I'll say, well,first of all, it's got these
organs in there and it's got thebone and all that, so that's
adding nutrition.
And even the muscle meat has awhole host of nutrients.
Even the muscle meat has awhole host of nutrients.
It's not just protein, becausepeople, how can a diet that's a
(23:00):
hundred percent protein behealthy?
It's like, wow, it's notprotein, you know.
So I think you're like you saidpeople have no idea what the
actual nutrient content in meatis yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
And yes, we need bones, yes, we need organs, yes,
we need variety.
And other than that, guys, it'sreally super simple.
It's just simple, and I wouldsay keep it simple so that you
don't get frustrated and you'renot tempted to go back to
feeding cakes, cookies andchemicals.
(23:36):
Right, we have a choice whetherwe're going to eat cakes,
cookies and chemicals or not.
Right, if you go down and youget you some cupcakes and those
cookies, even if you're buyingthem at Sprouts, it's still
chemicals and processing.
We do have a choice.
(23:58):
Our dogs don't have a choice,because we are the one paying
for that and bringing it home,putting it in their bowl.
So I'm hoping that we can honorwhat these animals are and if
anyone says they have evolved toeat processed foods, please ask
(24:21):
them to explain that and thengive that explanation to us.
We would love to hear it.
Tell us how.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's literally impossible, I mean really, for
any species to evolve to eatprocessed food, because it's not
a natural food.
Our natural foods have to comefrom nature.
You know, how does, how doeshow does any species, how could
it adapt to a processed food?
I mean, there's just, there'sjust no way, because it's so
(24:50):
unnatural.
The only foods that are naturalfor any species come from
nature.
For cows and horses it's grass,and for us it's more of the
only foods that are natural forany species come from nature.
For cows and horses it's grass,and for us it's more of a mix,
because we're more omnivores,and for dogs and cats it's meat,
bones and organs.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And I would say it like this they haven't evolved
to eat processed foods.
They've been pushed.
They haven't been given achoice, like you said yeah, and
you know, I like I go back tothat little vet tech who said
(25:28):
this to me and she said not alldogs can eat raw.
And my question is why?
Well, because their guts justcan't take it.
And my question is why?
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
because they've been poisoned with all of your drugs
that you're giving think aboutthis.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
They're, they're eating, they're that when they
when they're suckling on theirmom's teeth.
That's not processed, that'sreal food.
So we're going to come off themom's teeth and then we're going
to go to a processed foodthat's been fortified, that's
been created.
And has it been created?
(26:09):
If you look at the test andwhat's in it and then how they
do the feeding trials, it's beencreated.
Number one it's just not real.
But how did we test it to makesure that this created synthetic
cake cookies and chemicals isgood for the dog, right?
How did we come to that, or can?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
you even like.
Can they even absorb thosenutrients?
They give this list, thismultivitamin.
That's like vitamin spray theyput on these foods.
Got this nice list of nutrientsbut how do you know any of
that's even getting into thetissues?
It just looks pretty on thepaper but you have no idea that
if it's even getting in thereand benefiting the dog and I
would contend that it's not,because that's why we see dogs
(26:53):
get so much healthier when theychange from a processed food to
to a raw food diet.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
You know, I just, I just love the the ladder of
questions, right?
So if you just keep asking thequestion well, how is that
determined?
How did you come to that?
How did you figure that out?
Where are the tests that showthat?
Right, that they will getfrustrated.
The veterinary industry willget frustrated before they will
(27:21):
answer your question, will getfrustrated before they will
answer your question.
How did, how is it that a dietthat has these ingredients,
right, just take, go go, grabyou a bag off the internet.
Don't grab it and take it home,but look at the ingredients,
look up what those ingredientsare and you're going to see that
(27:43):
they're not something that youranimals should have in their
body.
And the next time that a vetsays, hey, your dog has kidney
issues, it needs to eat this,you want to ask the question how
is it that these syntheticsthat the kidneys have to process
(28:03):
are good for them?
How did that come to be?
Why wouldn't a dog or cat be ona highly highest digestibility
factor in food Moisture?
Food moisture rich, nosynthetics.
(28:24):
How is it that?
That is scary.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
And bad.
It's going to make kidneydisease worse and liver disease
makes everything worse.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, how did that come to be?
So we have to snap out of it,we have to think, we have to ask
the questions and don't letthem get by with the non-answers
.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Good, keep asking questions.
I love it.
I tell people that all the time, just keep asking them so that
when they say, well, I think theraw food is making your dog
sick, well, why?
Oh, because of the bacteria.
Well, which bacteria?
And how do you know that?
That that those bacteria a werein the food I fed my dog?
Because you haven't tested it.
And how do you know that thatthat bacteria is making my dog
(29:12):
sick?
Cause, if you test it to see ifthat's the same bacteria, if
you keep asking questions, itmakes absolutely no sense and it
will back them in a corner andthey won't.
They won't like it.
But I think it's kind of afunny exercise.
I sometimes like to just gointo one of these vet clinics
and ask questions.
You know just somebody thatdoesn't know me asking questions
.
I think it'd be kind of fun.
(29:32):
You should start a show.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I think it would be so funny undercover vet, you
know, and and just it would behilarious, especially if you
could have some sort of likecreative people that change your
nose, give you a wig so thatyou know you look different
every time, and I but you wouldhave to pay so much money just
(29:57):
to go in and and I don't know ifthey would even talk to you
unless you walked in with thepet, but it would be hilarious.
It would be hilarious.
See, there I'm coming up withideas for you.
There's my next business model,right, right, I would.
I would love to do that.
I think that that that this youknow, they've got the like
(30:20):
cheaters the cheater shows andall this kind of stuff.
Got the like, uh, cheaters, thecheater shows and all this kind
of stuff, and it would be sofunny to really be able to go in
um and question them and watchthem squirm yeah, like you see
what my pet to have a rabiesshot have you had your rabies?
Shot, you know when did youhave your last rabies shot?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
like if the rabies shots are so good, why, why, why
does my pet have to have them?
Because?
If you've got ears and they'reso great, you should be
protected, right.
You know, and then and then,okay, so you want to give this
rabies shot, but you might goand get that package insert and
I'd like to sit down and go overit with you and see if there's
any health risks to my pet thatyou have not informed me of.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh my gosh, I mean, I had so much fun doing that.
Yeah, it is crazy.
It is crazy.
Well, you guys, it's super easyto feed a raw diet.
Okay, don't let it getcomplicated.
I get it that sometimes dogsget into things.
Maybe they have loose stools,maybe they need more bone, but
(31:25):
it is a simple tweak.
Right, it is a simple tweak.
I'm not sure where the idea camefrom that these pure raw diets
have excessive amounts ofbacteria in them when your dog
licks their butts and so manydogs have chlorophagia where
(31:46):
they just eat crap all the time,right, and somebody was telling
me the other day they were likeI literally have to run outside
and pick up my other dog's poopbefore my other dog runs over
to eat it.
Okay, now they this, thisparticular dog has been doing
that his entire life and yet andwe have many dogs that do that
(32:09):
you know whether they're boredor whether it's just they like
it.
I have no idea, right, butthey're not dead, they're not
sick and they're eating poop.
So how is it that they can'teat a diet that they were meant
to eat?
What is so scary about it?
What is so dirty?
(32:31):
What is so bacteria filled?
And, dr Jasek, if you get thatname.
What's the name of the podcastthat this woman teaches people
how to get roadkill?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
teaches people how to get roadkill.
Oh, it's on it's on.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Alex Zach you know, alex Zach the way forward.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
The way forward it's like the last one I can't think
of her name but it's like thevery last interview that he did.
So it's like the last issue ofhis podcast that I've been
listening to.
It's, it's very good.
I I'll send you the link.
You can post it if you want,but it's, it's really
interesting.
I'm just like partway into it.
Cause it's interesting?
Cause she said she started out,you know, seeing what's going on
in the world and wanting to beprepared for her family.
(33:13):
So she started doing the like,you know, survival meals.
So you buy these, you knowthese freeze dried foods and
stuff that she goes, oh, bunchof process crap, you know, I
mean, okay, we'd keep you aliveif you couldn't go to the
grocery store, but it's stillnot a lot of healthy stuff in
some of those freeze-dried meals.
So she decided that, well, andthen she got to a point in her
(33:36):
life where she had lost her joband she didn't have a lot of
money and she said, you know, Icould learn.
And she met a guy that taughther to fish and she's like I can
learn to live off the land andthat sort of became her passion.
So she knows how to forage forplants.
I think she does.
I haven't finished listening tohim.
I think she does some stuffwith herbs, fishing, hunting,
(33:59):
you know she's like, if you knowhow to live off the land, you
can survive anywhere, you know.
So it's, it's prettyinteresting, interesting concept
.
But yeah, I'll send you thelink.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Make sure you don't feed death cap mushrooms.
You know it's so funny.
Neely and I did a podcast yearsago on death cap mushrooms and
now there's a podcast out aboutthis woman named Erin Peterson.
Now there's a podcast out aboutthis woman named Erin Peterson,
who she's in Australia, Ibelieve, and she killed like
(34:35):
three people in her family, orallegedly, but it's because she
got these death cap mushroomsand put it in their food,
invited them all to lunch.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
And she was really.
She knew, she knew she waspoisoning them.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Well, you have to listen to the entire story.
It does appear that she knewthat because she called them to
lunch under false pretenses,right Like, oh, I have cancer.
She never had cancer, she nevereven had it diagnosed, and just
all these things that she did.
I think next week it's actuallygoing to, you know it's it's
(35:11):
going to be in the jury's handsand they're going to decide
whether she actually but it washer.
She was separated from herhusband, was mad at him.
They have these texts that havederogatory remarks about his
family and I think it was BeefWellington that she put it in,
but it's just.
All of this evidence reallylooks against her.
(35:34):
Three people Three people Ibelieve died because it was her
the father, the ex-husband'sparents and somebody else.
(35:56):
Or death cap mushrooms.
Avoid those.
Yeah, yeah, we want to avoidthose and I think they have a
yellow tinge to them.
But I remember we were talkingabout can you feed your dogs
mushrooms?
And Neely said, not death capmushrooms, and you know you want
to make sure what kind ofmushrooms are growing outside
because some of them are verypoisonous.
But, yeah, it's, if you guyslook up this podcast, it's it's
like there's several like themushroom cook and the mushroom
(36:20):
diary, but the person's name isAaron Peterson and, yeah, death
cap mushrooms Interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I'd like to learn more about like feeling good
about identifying them, becausesome of them even the really
poisonous ones and the okay onesthey look pretty similar.
You gotta know what you'redoing, so, but we have mushrooms
gone all over the place here inTennessee because it's so humid
, and so I'd love to know, learnmore about that.
You know, maybe, maybe, once weget moved in our new house,
I'll I'll find somebody to youknow, teach me more about that,
(36:52):
or find a class or something, orgrow my own.
You just buy the spores and theninoculate it into logs or
sawdust or something like that.
They're supposed to be prettyeasy.
Yeah, mush, yeah, mushroomproduction.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
And then there you go .
There you go.
Not the poisonous kind, okay,all right, everybody, thanks so
much for listening to the rawdog food truth.
Remember that we have yappyhour every week and that's where
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You just hit our sale page andyou can get that.
Also, remember, brian is theregoing to give you a free
consultation if you need someadvice on why you shouldn't cook
or you want to move from acooked product over to a species
(37:46):
appropriate.
I think you're going to seegreat, great things happen when
you actually feed your dog andcat what they were created to
eat.
It's a novel concept, dr Jasek.
It's the one that we've beendoing for about 25 years, so
anyway, You'd think it'd becommon sense.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
But would Mark Twain say, common sense is not so
common.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I think we've seen thatin today's world.
So if you want to work with DrJasek's team, it's easy, just go
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And companycom, where yourpet's health is our business.
And what Dr BASIC, wherefriends don't let friends feed,
(38:29):
kibble y'all.
That's right.
We'll see you soon, everybody.
Bye, bye.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Oh snap.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Find out how you can start your dog on the road to
health and longevity.
Go to raw dog food andcompanycom, where friends don't
let friends feed kibble andwhere your pets health is our
business.
Oh, snap, snap.
Well, hello, raw Feeders.
I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, ceoof a Raw Dog Food and Company
where your pet's health is ourbusiness, and we're friends,
like my friend, dr Judy Jasik,just like friends feed kibble,
but you're still friends withthem.
You know we talked about this.
We don't like, dislike you.
(00:23):
We're gonna give you theinformation.
What you do with that, it'syour business, right, dr Jasek?
That's right.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I mean, we can't make people feed a certain thing.
If they don't want to feed it,we can just tell them what's
going to happen when they don'tfeed their pets good, good diet.
But if they want to feed it andfall for all the marketing
things, well that's.
That's all we can do, becauseit's just a lot.
(00:51):
It's.
It's.
It's hard.
Well, you can't really convincepeople, but we spend a lot of
time putting this informationout there and when you're just
keep saying this stuff to peoplethat really aren't going to
change what they're doing anyway, it's a waste of our energy, so
I look at it as somebody whoreally wants to learn, truly
learn, Like I want to feed mypet, just that I'll talk to them
(01:15):
for however long it takes hoursbecause they really want to do
it and it's about what keepstheir pet being healthy and it's
about what keeps their petbeing healthy.
But when I, you know, realizethat somebody that there's
always when there's always areason why raw won't work, and
they haven't even really triedit, they're not going to feed
raw Right, so we're wasting ourtime and energy.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Great Cakes, cookies and chemicals, I don't know.
Sounds like a good diet for adog to me.
All right, hey.
On that serious note for a dogto me, all right.
Hey, we.
We did get a question, though,about the herbicide that you
talked about last week, and it'scalled fire hawk guys, fire
(01:57):
hawk bio herbicide.
Okay, and I'm going to get someof this too, dr Jacek, and you
were saying that it's safe forpets and it causes these weeds
to sort of just dehydrate, andwithout chemicals, so I like it.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, it's like it's some sort of organic acid, of
organic acid that is not toxicand it it just.
It like removes, like the waxycoating on the leaves, so that
the plants, that the plantsactually dehydrate.
And I think on the websitethere's a lot of information
about it and and they and theyactually tested the soil.
(02:42):
The other thing that's cool.
So a lot of your herbicidesalso destroy the microbiome in
the soil.
So to have healthy plants, youwant a good microbiome in the
soil, just like in us.
A good microbiome is importantand a lot of these chemicals
actually destroy that.
But this because it basicallyis just killing the plants
naturally because it'sdehydrating them.
(03:02):
The plants still decompose it,so it actually improves soil
health.
So, yeah, I got some.
We're in the process of movingso I haven't tried it yet, but
when we get to our next placeI'm definitely going to be
trying it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
So you're on the road again.
Now you're moving to anotherplace, which is awesome, awesome
.
You know, guys, here's thething If some place doesn't work
for you in life, you got tomove on, right?
There's a lot of people thatkind of hang out and do the same
thing over and over again.
They don't like what they do.
That's not us, right, we'regoing to.
We're going to move on, butyou're going to.
(03:35):
You're moving to another partof Tennessee, and that's awesome
.
We've also talked about that.
You're looking at reallyproviding some holistic options
for folks out there, so theyshould stay tuned to that.
I think this is so nice if youopen up some facilities where
(03:57):
people can actually go get bloodwork, get a lot of things done
that they can't get done intraditional veterinary medicine,
so that's going to be veryexciting.
I think you're going to besuper busy.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Maybe more busy than than I want to be, but but it's
going to be, um, you know, justisolated things that I think we
can do, um, that that peoplereally need that will really
benefit pets, that they don'thave to, you know, obviously get
a vaccine or something you knowto come in for.
Because I think, yeah, we weretalking about pet health is
(04:33):
really about wellness you feedthem right, you stop poisoning
them, and if you know they couldget some there without it
mandating, you know, withouthaving vaccines mandated, then
you know they could get somebasic care.
And again, I think it's theeducation.
I think people just need toknow what to do to keep their
pet healthy and then they, youknow, have the option of doing
(04:57):
that.
If people don't do what werecommend, well, and that's
their business.
But I think a lot of times.
There's so much confusinginformation out there that
people aren't sure what to do tokeep their pet healthy and they
just need a little support thatsay, yes, this is the right way
to go.
So, because the body knows howto be healthy our bodies and our
(05:19):
pets bodies we just have tostop poisoning them and give
them the right nutritional toolsto stay healthy.
And it's really that simple.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
You know I what is it about?
I mean, I get it.
People are like I don't wantfleas, I don't want even one
flea.
But you know what, dr Jasek?
I mean I get it, but you don'twant to be poisoning your pet.
(05:49):
You just don't want to be doingthat.
And I don't know how in theworld you're going to be able to
not poison your pet if you usethe standard stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
How are you going to do that If you use the standard
stuff, how are you going to dothat?
No, you can't.
And the natural stuff it's.
It's more of a process, youknow, because natural things
don't kill things veryefficiently.
So if you've got an issue withfleas in particular, you know
you've got to do stuff for for awhile.
You know the essential oilsprays and you got to repeat
(06:24):
them or put diatomaceous eartharound your house and I think
there are, like natural, whatthey call bombs for your house.
We have fog on fog your house.
I think there's some naturalones that use.
They don't use a lot ofchemicals, they use more of the
essential oil sprays and stuffto help get the fleas out.
But you have to do more stuffto get rid of them.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I remember I had fleas in my house.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
This was quite a few years ago, maybe 15 or more
years ago and um, I startedfinding fleas.
I figured just came in with thewildlife and there was just no
way I was going to use thosechemicals.
And so I did essential oils andI mean, I feel them in my hair,
I'd be in bed and I'd feel itNot, not, not, not fun, but like
(07:12):
there's just no way I'm usingthose chemicals.
So I'd spray down my pillow withthe essential oil sprays and
spray around the house and keepwashing the bedding and you just
keep after it.
I mean, it probably took acouple of months to completely
get rid of them, but but I did.
So you just have to kind ofstay after.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You just have to decide that it's worth being a
little inconvenienced to notpoison your pet.
Come on now.
You know, is it really thatdangerous to poison your pet?
Is it?
Is it, dr Daisy?
Come on now.
Is it just a little bit ofpoison, okay?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
is it, dr jason?
Come on now.
Is it just a little bit ofpoison?
Okay, I wouldn't want to poisonmy pet a little bit, I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I wouldn't want to poison myself even just a little
bit, so you wouldn't you know,I was listening to who's I
listened to the other day andthey were talking about maybe it
was dr paul saladino and he wastalking about these pesticides
on golf courses.
And he was talking about thesepesticides on golf courses and
he was saying you know what?
What he believes and what someof the research is showing is
(08:11):
that it's getting in the water.
Right, it's getting in in thewater, some people are drinking
the water.
And he was saying what'sinteresting is that these
golfers aren't necessarilygetting sick, but that's why you
should not drink like citywater, right, oh yeah, and and
that sort of thing.
But I thought that was veryinteresting.
And and do people realize, a lotof times when they're filling
(08:35):
up the water bowl, they're doingit from the spout Right, and
their dogs are drinking allthese chemicals?
Certainly, we don't.
We get, we get our waterdelivered in glass and um, but I
, I just you.
You gotta really be consciousof what is going in your dog.
So if you're doing flea andtick and doing heartworm, these
(08:57):
are two toxins right there, twopoisons, and then you're, you're
having them drink city water orwater.
Let's say you're, you knowthese different places that put
water out for dogs.
Yeah, where's that water comingfrom?
I think it's you gotta beconscious of it.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, and like the outside, you know, host pickets
and stuff.
People have a dish outside,pools for dogs, a lot of people
have swimming pools, like allthat stuff that comes out of
your house.
If your house is on city waterunless you've got your own, well
, all your hoses and everythingthat's all um, that's all
contaminated with who knows what, what chemicals we actually
(09:37):
haven't.
We'll do this be one of thefirst things we do.
In our new house.
We put in a whole house filterand they're a little expensive,
but I just feel that stronglyabout our health and it's
important that.
Like you know bathing.
So if any of you like for usshowering, you know you let all
those chemicals get loose in thesteam in your shower and then
(09:59):
your pores open up as it's warmand it's absorbed through your
skin.
And then the same thing withyour pet, if you're.
If you're bathing your pet.
I've actually seen pets likeitchy skin get better when they
were bathed in water that wasfiltered so it had no chlorine
in it.
I know, I'm really sensitive tochlorine, like I can't stand
smelling it or I mean it justreally bothers my skin and stuff
(10:22):
, and I think that can be a bigcontributing factor.
So, yeah, we will put a wholehouse filter on our house so
that our showers and everythingis filtered, and then our
drinking water.
We filter it again, so we doreverse osmosis, so we make sure
our drinking water is reallyclean and then out, like in my
garden, um, cause that comes in,you know, through the city,
(10:47):
city water too, but it's nothooked up to the house.
I, you can buy these filters.
They use them in RVs,recreational vehicles and this,
just this filter.
You just screw right into yourhose and it filters the water as
it goes to the hose before itwaters your plants, cause you
don't want to be watering theplants in your garden with
chlorine and fluoride andantidepressants and antibiotics
(11:08):
and all this stuff right, orpeople are peeing out.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
you know, I know it's it's just, it's just crazy.
But we can drive ourselvescrazy with all of this stuff.
But I think if you take the bigsteps right, like what are you
eating?
Are you eating processed foods?
Right, I don't think that youeat processed foods, dr Jasek.
So what is a processed food,guys?
(11:32):
Anything that's been changedfrom its natural, natural origin
, right.
So bread, right, is processed,and cupcakes, cookies, cereals,
all of that kind of stuff isjust so processed.
And I don't understand how theveterinary world can sell that
(11:59):
extremely processed food andthen put a name like
prescription on it.
I mean, it is totally andcompletely false advertising.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Absolutely Anything.
You don't know what I mean.
Read the actual ingredients,not the marketing, not just
because it says it's natural orit's good for joint health and
it gives a healthy, you know,shiny coat, but read the actual
ingredients.
If there's anything in there,you don't know what it is like.
Soy lecithin, I don't know whatsoy lecithin is, something
(12:35):
processed out of soy, evidently,but I don't know what it is
Corn gluten meal, hydrolyzed soyprotein.
I mean, if you don't know whatthat stuff is, if you don't know
what any of those ingredientsare, they're processed and you
shouldn't feed them.
It should say beef and liverand heart and kidney and spleen
(12:57):
and bone.
Everybody knows what those are,right.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, and, and you know the biggest thing,
obviously the biggest questionthat comes up is can my dog get
sick from eating raw meat?
Right, and the question is whatkind of sickness are we talking
about?
Is it harmful bacteria?
Okay, what is harmful bacteria?
(13:24):
And where is the documentationthat right?
So people are going to worryabout salmonella, and you know a
dog and a cat's digestivesystem is created to handle
(13:46):
bacteria with this.
You know intestinal flora, thehigh acidic stomach, the natural
enzymes.
It's going to help them processthe food that they were created
to eat.
So how is it that you knowthese dogs were created, or cats
(14:09):
are created, to eat raw, notcooked, dr Jasek, not cooked,
not freeze, dried, in reality,and certainly not processed?
How is it that they are goingto get sick from the food that
(14:30):
they are physically created toeat?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And especially when it's so clean, coming from these
companies.
I mean, dr Scavengers, theycould find roadkill and eat it
and probably be fine.
I was listening to this podcast.
This woman that's she's done allthis wilderness survival
training and stuff and sheteaches like what she calls
(14:58):
human skills, but it's likeliving off the land kind of
stuff.
She picks up roadkill andbrings it home and prepares it
for her family.
And at first that kind of tookme back and she's like, but
she's like, no, really Like, ifI see a deer get hit on the road
or she knows enough, she knowshow to check it.
If it's still warm she'll takeit home.
(15:19):
And she said one Christmas shelike found a deer right before
Christmas and she made sausageand like, like that was part of
her Christmas gifts foreverybody.
This roadkill killed deersausage.
But she's like, why are weletting that food go to waste?
She's like you know, all myfriends go to the grocery store
(15:40):
and buy so-called meat and theydon't even know what they're
getting.
I know what I'm eating.
It's a deer and she knows howto.
You know, you got to know howto process it properly.
But, could you imagine?
I mean, what do you think yourcustomers would say if you said
you put roadkill?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
They totally freak.
Do you know that in Coloradoand I don't know if it's this
way everywhere, because Ihaven't looked at it, but you
cannot?
Ok, let's just say, becausethere's tons of elk where I live
and I'm talking about, it willstop traffic and hundreds of
them will walk across the street.
Obviously, some of them get hitright, because they'll get out
(16:21):
there at night and people don'tsee them.
You can't just, even if I thinkyou're the one that hits it,
you cannot unless you have a tag.
You have some sort of a legalway that you can say yeah, a
(16:42):
hunting tag.
Let's just say that you can'tjust stop on the side of the
road and take it.
The police will get you, isn't?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
that silly.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
And I don't know yeah , and I don't know yeah, and
lots of laws that don't makesense yeah, and I don't know if
it's that everything is carriedso far out because somebody who
has no sense does somethingstupid.
I don't know if it's becausethey're like, hey, I don't want
(17:13):
somebody just hitting an animalon purpose so they can go out
and feed it to their family.
I don't know if that's why theydo it, but clearly, if an
animal has been hit on the road,should you as a human being get
in trouble for going andpulling it off the road and
(17:39):
seems like it would be doing aservice and getting it off the
side of the road.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's not otherwise, you just lay there and rot.
I mean, here it feeds thevultures.
We have so many vultures here,but you know they clean up the
roadkill.
Yeah, yeah, that's what they do.
But like why?
It's just from a practicalitystandpoint, why not?
I mean, an animal just lost itslife.
You know, to me it's honoringthe animal if it's, if its life
(18:03):
has some purpose and the meatgets eaten.
I mean, in nature, like youknow, it goes to there probably
be other critters come up andeat it, like the vultures or
foxes or coyotes or whatever.
But yeah, what's wrong withwe're're so far removed?
I think.
I think part of it too is likewe're so far removed from where
where food comes from.
(18:24):
Like the hamburgers don't comefrom McDonald's or the grocery
store, you know they come from acow.
That cow has to get killed, youknow, and and processed in a
processing plant for it to showup as hamburger at McDonald's or
in the grocery store.
I think people are so farremoved from where their food
(18:45):
actually comes from.
They just like's rummy, right,but you know I think.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I think a lot of this comes from people who need
something to talk about that'sand and need to assert their
authority, and what I mean bythat is people in our industry
make up this stuff about oh you,you, you can't feed your dog
this and you can't feed your dogthat, right in our, in our
(19:25):
world, in the raw world.
Think about these recipes, drJC, that are coming from some of
the superstars right in the inthe raw feeding industry.
Do you really need thesecomplicated recipes that make no
sense?
It's really super simple Meat,bones, organ and fat, different
(19:50):
species, turkey duck chickenpork yeah.
And and make sure that you'vegot that species bones and that
species organs and that speciesmeat Right and move it around.
Don't get hung up just onturkey or chicken.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Feed the brains and the testicles, and all that
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Right, right, right, but this industry, people want
recipes and it's like what, what, what?
What are we trying to do here?
And that goes back to themicromanaging of the vitamins
and minerals, right?
Well, first of all, if you'regoing to micromanage them,
(20:40):
micromanage them.
Do you know all of the vitamins, minerals, every single one of
them, that are in meat, bones,organ and fat?
Do you know which ones your dogis lacking?
Do you know, if you combinethis and this, how that's going
to synergistically work?
I mean, there's so much of itthat you cannot know.
We don't even know it about ourown food.
How can you know it about a dog?
(21:01):
What we replicate why this dietcame about, was because we know
they're descendants, they'rethe ancestors of the wolf and
the dingo, and neither one ofthose species eat cooked.
(21:21):
They don't eat freeze-dried andthey don't worry about all
these little different vitaminsand minerals.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
They have trouble building fires because they
don't have opposable thumbs tocook their food.
You know they can't build thefires to cook their food.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Right, right, right.
So I get it that some peoplewant to make it really
complicated, but what I thinkabout that complication?
It causes them to go back to aninferior product, which is
kibble.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I think there's a lot of anthropomorphizing, because,
you know, when humans cook,they typically go to a cookbook
and get a recipe you know, andthen they follow all the
instructions on the recipe.
I think they're used to thatand I think, like what you were
saying about, like we don't knowwhat's actually like, what are
(22:14):
all the vitamins and mineralsand nutrients in meat?
People don't know.
Because what people will say tome well, like, how is the diet
complete if I'm just feedingmeat?
Like I think they think it'sjust protein.
I think what people sometimesthink is like, well, I'm just
feeding, and they they'll saythis, even though they're
feeding a blend like yours Well,if I'm just feeding meat, then
(22:36):
all I'm feeding is protein, likeit has no other nutritional
value.
And so then I'll say, well,first of all, it's got these
organs in there and it's got thebone and all that, so that's
adding nutrition.
And even the muscle meat has awhole host of nutrients.
Even the muscle meat has awhole host of nutrients.
It's not just protein, becausepeople, how can a diet that's a
(23:00):
hundred percent protein behealthy?
It's like, wow, it's notprotein, you know.
So I think you're like you saidpeople have no idea what the
actual nutrient content in meatis yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
And yes, we need bones, yes, we need organs, yes,
we need variety.
And other than that, guys, it'sreally super simple.
It's just simple, and I wouldsay keep it simple so that you
don't get frustrated and you'renot tempted to go back to
feeding cakes, cookies andchemicals.
(23:36):
Right, we have a choice whetherwe're going to eat cakes,
cookies and chemicals or not.
Right, if you go down and youget you some cupcakes and those
cookies, even if you're buyingthem at Sprouts, it's still
chemicals and processing.
We do have a choice.
(23:58):
Our dogs don't have a choice,because we are the one paying
for that and bringing it home,putting it in their bowl.
So I'm hoping that we can honorwhat these animals are and if
anyone says they have evolved toeat processed foods, please ask
(24:21):
them to explain that and thengive that explanation to us.
We would love to hear it.
Tell us how.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's literally impossible, I mean really, for
any species to evolve to eatprocessed food, because it's not
a natural food.
Our natural foods have to comefrom nature.
You know, how does, how doeshow does any species, how could
it adapt to a processed food?
I mean, there's just, there'sjust no way, because it's so
(24:50):
unnatural.
The only foods that are naturalfor any species come from
nature.
For cows and horses it's grass,and for us it's more of the
only foods that are natural forany species come from nature.
For cows and horses it's grass,and for us it's more of a mix,
because we're more omnivores,and for dogs and cats it's meat,
bones and organs.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
And I would say it like this they haven't evolved
to eat processed foods.
They've been pushed.
They haven't been given achoice, like you said yeah, and
you know, I like I go back tothat little vet tech who said
(25:28):
this to me and she said not alldogs can eat raw.
And my question is why?
Well, because their guts justcan't take it.
And my question is why?
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
because they've been poisoned with all of your drugs
that you're giving think aboutthis.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
They're, they're eating, they're that when they
when they're suckling on theirmom's teeth.
That's not processed, that'sreal food.
So we're going to come off themom's teeth and then we're going
to go to a processed foodthat's been fortified, that's
been created.
And has it been created?
(26:09):
If you look at the test andwhat's in it and then how they
do the feeding trials, it's beencreated.
Number one it's just not real.
But how did we test it to makesure that this created synthetic
cake cookies and chemicals isgood for the dog, right?
How did we come to that, or can?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
you even like.
Can they even absorb thosenutrients?
They give this list, thismultivitamin.
That's like vitamin spray theyput on these foods.
Got this nice list of nutrientsbut how do you know any of
that's even getting into thetissues?
It just looks pretty on thepaper but you have no idea that
if it's even getting in thereand benefiting the dog and I
would contend that it's not,because that's why we see dogs
(26:53):
get so much healthier when theychange from a processed food to
to a raw food diet.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
You know, I just, I just love the the ladder of
questions, right?
So if you just keep asking thequestion well, how is that
determined?
How did you come to that?
How did you figure that out?
Where are the tests that showthat?
Right, that they will getfrustrated.
The veterinary industry willget frustrated before they will
(27:21):
answer your question, will getfrustrated before they will
answer your question.
How did, how is it that a dietthat has these ingredients,
right, just take, go go, grabyou a bag off the internet.
Don't grab it and take it home,but look at the ingredients,
look up what those ingredientsare and you're going to see that
(27:43):
they're not something that youranimals should have in their
body.
And the next time that a vetsays, hey, your dog has kidney
issues, it needs to eat this,you want to ask the question how
is it that these syntheticsthat the kidneys have to process
(28:03):
are good for them?
How did that come to be?
Why wouldn't a dog or cat be ona highly highest digestibility
factor in food Moisture?
Food moisture rich, nosynthetics.
(28:24):
How is it that?
That is scary.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
And bad.
It's going to make kidneydisease worse and liver disease
makes everything worse.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, how did that come to be?
So we have to snap out of it,we have to think, we have to ask
the questions and don't letthem get by with the non-answers
.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Good, keep asking questions.
I love it.
I tell people that all the time, just keep asking them so that
when they say, well, I think theraw food is making your dog
sick, well, why?
Oh, because of the bacteria.
Well, which bacteria?
And how do you know that?
That that those bacteria a werein the food I fed my dog?
Because you haven't tested it.
And how do you know that thatthat bacteria is making my dog
(29:12):
sick?
Cause, if you test it to see ifthat's the same bacteria, if
you keep asking questions, itmakes absolutely no sense and it
will back them in a corner andthey won't.
They won't like it.
But I think it's kind of afunny exercise.
I sometimes like to just gointo one of these vet clinics
and ask questions.
You know just somebody thatdoesn't know me asking questions
.
I think it'd be kind of fun.
(29:32):
You should start a show.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I think it would be so funny undercover vet, you
know, and and just it would behilarious, especially if you
could have some sort of likecreative people that change your
nose, give you a wig so thatyou know you look different
every time, and I but you wouldhave to pay so much money just
(29:57):
to go in and and I don't know ifthey would even talk to you
unless you walked in with thepet, but it would be hilarious.
It would be hilarious.
See, there I'm coming up withideas for you.
There's my next business model,right, right, I would.
I would love to do that.
I think that that that this youknow, they've got the like
(30:20):
cheaters the cheater shows andall this kind of stuff.
Got the like, uh, cheaters, thecheater shows and all this kind
of stuff, and it would be sofunny to really be able to go in
um and question them and watchthem squirm yeah, like you see
what my pet to have a rabiesshot have you had your rabies?
Shot, you know when did youhave your last rabies shot?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
like if the rabies shots are so good, why, why, why
does my pet have to have them?
Because?
If you've got ears and they'reso great, you should be
protected, right.
You know, and then and then,okay, so you want to give this
rabies shot, but you might goand get that package insert and
I'd like to sit down and go overit with you and see if there's
any health risks to my pet thatyou have not informed me of.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh my gosh, I mean, I had so much fun doing that.
Yeah, it is crazy.
It is crazy.
Well, you guys, it's super easyto feed a raw diet.
Okay, don't let it getcomplicated.
I get it that sometimes dogsget into things.
Maybe they have loose stools,maybe they need more bone, but
(31:25):
it is a simple tweak.
Right, it is a simple tweak.
I'm not sure where the idea camefrom that these pure raw diets
have excessive amounts ofbacteria in them when your dog
licks their butts and so manydogs have chlorophagia where
(31:46):
they just eat crap all the time,right, and somebody was telling
me the other day they were likeI literally have to run outside
and pick up my other dog's poopbefore my other dog runs over
to eat it.
Okay, now they this, thisparticular dog has been doing
that his entire life and yet andwe have many dogs that do that
(32:09):
you know whether they're boredor whether it's just they like
it.
I have no idea, right, butthey're not dead, they're not
sick and they're eating poop.
So how is it that they can'teat a diet that they were meant
to eat?
What is so scary about it?
What is so dirty?
(32:31):
What is so bacteria filled?
And, dr Jasek, if you get thatname.
What's the name of the podcastthat this woman teaches people
how to get roadkill?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
teaches people how to get roadkill.
Oh, it's on it's on.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Alex Zach you know, alex Zach the way forward.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
The way forward it's like the last one I can't think
of her name but it's like thevery last interview that he did.
So it's like the last issue ofhis podcast that I've been
listening to.
It's, it's very good.
I I'll send you the link.
You can post it if you want,but it's, it's really
interesting.
I'm just like partway into it.
Cause it's interesting?
Cause she said she started out,you know, seeing what's going on
in the world and wanting to beprepared for her family.
(33:13):
So she started doing the like,you know, survival meals.
So you buy these, you knowthese freeze dried foods and
stuff that she goes, oh, bunchof process crap, you know, I
mean, okay, we'd keep you aliveif you couldn't go to the
grocery store, but it's stillnot a lot of healthy stuff in
some of those freeze-dried meals.
So she decided that, well, andthen she got to a point in her
(33:36):
life where she had lost her joband she didn't have a lot of
money and she said, you know, Icould learn.
And she met a guy that taughther to fish and she's like I can
learn to live off the land andthat sort of became her passion.
So she knows how to forage forplants.
I think she does.
I haven't finished listening tohim.
I think she does some stuffwith herbs, fishing, hunting,
(33:59):
you know she's like, if you knowhow to live off the land, you
can survive anywhere, you know.
So it's, it's prettyinteresting, interesting concept
.
But yeah, I'll send you thelink.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Make sure you don't feed death cap mushrooms.
You know it's so funny.
Neely and I did a podcast yearsago on death cap mushrooms and
now there's a podcast out aboutthis woman named Erin Peterson.
Now there's a podcast out aboutthis woman named Erin Peterson,
who she's in Australia, Ibelieve, and she killed like
(34:35):
three people in her family, orallegedly, but it's because she
got these death cap mushroomsand put it in their food,
invited them all to lunch.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
And she was really.
She knew, she knew she waspoisoning them.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Well, you have to listen to the entire story.
It does appear that she knewthat because she called them to
lunch under false pretenses,right Like, oh, I have cancer.
She never had cancer, she nevereven had it diagnosed, and just
all these things that she did.
I think next week it's actuallygoing to, you know it's it's
(35:11):
going to be in the jury's handsand they're going to decide
whether she actually but it washer.
She was separated from herhusband, was mad at him.
They have these texts that havederogatory remarks about his
family and I think it was BeefWellington that she put it in,
but it's just.
All of this evidence reallylooks against her.
(35:34):
Three people Three people Ibelieve died because it was her
the father, the ex-husband'sparents and somebody else.
(35:56):
Or death cap mushrooms.
Avoid those.
Yeah, yeah, we want to avoidthose and I think they have a
yellow tinge to them.
But I remember we were talkingabout can you feed your dogs
mushrooms?
And Neely said, not death capmushrooms, and you know you want
to make sure what kind ofmushrooms are growing outside
because some of them are verypoisonous.
But, yeah, it's, if you guyslook up this podcast, it's it's
like there's several like themushroom cook and the mushroom
(36:20):
diary, but the person's name isAaron Peterson and, yeah, death
cap mushrooms Interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I'd like to learn more about like feeling good
about identifying them, becausesome of them even the really
poisonous ones and the okay onesthey look pretty similar.
You gotta know what you'redoing, so, but we have mushrooms
gone all over the place here inTennessee because it's so humid
, and so I'd love to know, learnmore about that.
You know, maybe, maybe, once weget moved in our new house,
I'll I'll find somebody to youknow, teach me more about that,
(36:52):
or find a class or something, orgrow my own.
You just buy the spores and theninoculate it into logs or
sawdust or something like that.
They're supposed to be prettyeasy.
Yeah, mush, yeah, mushroomproduction.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
And then there you go .
There you go.
Not the poisonous kind, okay,all right, everybody, thanks so
much for listening to the rawdog food truth.
Remember that we have yappyhour every week and that's where
we put a lot of things on salebecause, you know, we just like
to give you guys the opportunityto get more of the good stuff
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You just hit our sale page andyou can get that.
Also, remember, brian is theregoing to give you a free
consultation if you need someadvice on why you shouldn't cook
or you want to move from acooked product over to a species
(37:46):
appropriate.
I think you're going to seegreat, great things happen when
you actually feed your dog andcat what they were created to
eat.
It's a novel concept, dr Jasek.
It's the one that we've beendoing for about 25 years, so
anyway, You'd think it'd becommon sense.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
But would Mark Twain say, common sense is not so
common.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I think we've seen thatin today's world.
So if you want to work with DrJasek's team, it's easy, just go
to ahavetcom.
Ahavetcom, all right, everybody, get over to Raw Dog Food.
And companycom, where yourpet's health is our business.
And what Dr BASIC, wherefriends don't let friends feed,
(38:29):
kibble y'all.
That's right.
We'll see you soon, everybody.
Bye, bye.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Oh snap.
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