February 19, 2025 • 50 mins
The episode dives into the critical health issues facing our dogs, particularly those stemming from kibble diets, while advocating for the benefits of raw feeding. A central theme emerges—dismantling the myths and marketing that keep pet owners from understanding what's truly best for their canine companions.
• Exploring the epidemic of overweight pets and its implications
• Discussing the dangers of kibble and processed foods
• Challenging the fears surrounding raw feeding, like bird flu
• Debunking myths around disease transmission and raw diets
• Advocating for informed choices and community support
• Encouraging dialogue about the health of pets and misinformation
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh snap.
Well, hello, raw Feeders.
I'm Deedee Mercer-Muffet, ceoof Raw Dog Food Company.
Well, your pet's health is ourbusiness and we're friends, like
my friend Dr Judy Jasik.
Well, she's out there helpingall the dogs in the world not
eat kibble, or at least you try.
Right, dr Jasik?
We do the best we can.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
All we can do is educate.
You know, and we just tellpeople.
People sometimes slip back down.
You know raw is too expensive,or what about the bird flu?
Or what about this, what aboutthat.
But you know all we can do isis tell people.
And you know like after allthese years you know just like
you Dee, you see the results andthe benefits of feeding raw for
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so many years.
Like there's just no questionin my mind.
It's, it's the best.
Some dogs have, you know,issues.
They've come to us, they'vebeen on lots of drugs, lots of
medications, lots of antibiotics, so their guts kind of messed
up and it's a little harder toget them to transition.
But now there's no question,it's the best diet.
So we we keep trying.
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It'd be a heck of a lot easier.
Just recommend kibble right,like if we're in the kibble
business, we could retire well,they're gazillion billionaires.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I mean you know what I'm saying and um, it's, I mean,
it's marketing again, and welove to look at all the crazy
marketing that's out there,right?
I still I got to rant aboutthis a little bit more.
There's so many fat dogs.
I just, you know, it pains me,dr Jasek, when I am seeing these
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fat dogs and I'm sorry, I'mgoing to fat shame.
I'm fat shaming these dogsbecause it is so incredibly
negligible on the pet parent'spart when you, you know, here's
what I would say.
And it came to me the other daywhen one of our neighbors here
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had a sack of grapefruits andshe said take as many as you
want.
So I took two grapefruits Now,these are just two and I put
them in my sweatshirt and I wascarrying them.
Now, that couldn't have been.
I don't know, maybe was thateven a pound, I don't know.
But it was bothersome to evencarry that much weight right
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there in the front pockets of mysweatshirt and I was thinking
how bothersome, how tragic is itthat a dog is carrying around
15, 20 pounds?
And I'm not kidding you that.
I see these labs and thesegoldens.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And these goldens, they are waddling, waddling like
a duck I see that here too, andso, so, so sad.
And even, like you know, one ofour neighbors that we know
pretty well and she kind ofunderstands and they're kind of
a little more, you know,health-oriented, and talked to
her about raw and you know Isent her information on you guys
, oh, that's just too expensiveand their dogs probably 30
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pounds overweight, you know,just really really heavy.
She's the same thing.
Oh, she's sore, she's gotarthritis.
The dog doesn't want to do youand they walk a little bit like
just lay down, because not onlyare they overweight and that's
hard on their joints, but thentheir joints are all inflamed
from, you know, from the kibbleand it's.
It really is tragic, it's thesame.
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I just, it just breaks my heartto see all these plus plus.
Lots of them are overvaccinated.
I'm fleeing tick and all thisother stuff and they're just in
such poor health and it's such apoor quality of life.
It's really sad to see.
You know, I was going to say Ithink last week you mentioned
how people also like dress theirdogs up there.
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Maybe it's to hide the fat.
Do they use vertical stripesand stuff to make them look
slimmer?
I like these leggings that havea stripe down the side because
they do.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
They make my it look slimmer.
I like these leggings that havethe stripes down the side,
because they do they make mylegs look slimmer.
I saw Adobe, so I was walkingyesterday.
Now you have to understand, I'mcurrently in Arizona.
Okay, I'm in the Scottsdalearea and it is not cold here.
So I'm not in Colorado rightnow where it is, uh, where it is
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dumping snow and it is supercold.
Even in Oklahoma it's supercold.
So I get it If you want to puta jacket on your dog or even
booties on your dog right whenyou're out in the snow.
But it is not cold here, noteven in the mornings Is it cold.
And I was walking yesterdaymorning and this Dobie, this
Doberman Pinscher's, got thisbig old jacket on and I'm like
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you just don't look scary in abig jacket.
Dog's probably like I am so hot, take this coat off me.
No kidding.
But the ones that really botherme are the little Yorkies that
have hats and sunglasses on.
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I'm just like I don't, you know, a dog's eyes are made to, you
know, see things in a certainway, and I'm like how do those
glasses affect their vision?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
That is so like anthropomorphizing, isn't it?
Like people like to wear theirsunglasses, so I've got to put
sunglasses on my dog.
Yeah, I mean, it's got to bereally uncomfortable for him.
I can't imagine.
You know, when I have littledogs I had little chihuahuas for
years I never dressed them up,even if it was really cold, and
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they didn't even like wearingclothes, like I would get little
coats because they didn't likethe cold.
So when it was really cold I'dput a little coat on them to go
outside.
But like they hated them my onelittle five pounder, you know,
I put a sweater on her and she'djust stand there and stare at
me Like take this thing off, youknow.
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So I'm like fine, just gooutside.
They'd go outside, go potty andjust come right back in.
They're content just hangingout inside.
If the weather was cold, theyjust didn't stay outside.
But they didn't like beingdressed up.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I don't, you know, I don't know well, you know, it's
always worrisome because, um,the only way that dogs can cool
themselves down is, you know,they got a pant through their
mouth and their feet right, andso it's like come on, peeps.
But whatever I mean, you know,I'm ragging on, I'm ragging on,
I'm ragging on some people andthey're like, but I'm dressing
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up my dog, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well then, at least feed them raw, you know, because
if they at least got some ofthat weight off, they won't be
so hot in all those clothes.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You know I was, I was looking at um, ozempic, okay,
and and I'm going to, I'm goingto connect these two because I
was, I was looking about.
You know, there's a lot ofthings that come out about
Ozempic and then included inthose articles are why being
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overweight is so unhealthy,Right?
Those articles are why beingoverweight is so unhealthy,
right?
So if you know that beingoverweight causes arthritis, it
causes inflammation, it causesall types of things to go wrong
in the body, right, they saythat for people, when you're
carrying around excessive, youknow belly fat, that you are
susceptible to cancer, right?
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So think about this, dr Jason,we have an epidemic of fat dogs
and we have an epidemic ofcancer in dogs as well.
And then people want to say rawis too expensive.
And I'm thinking well, well,I'm certain that these
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overweight dogs have problems.
Right, they're going to havesome type of problem.
Whether that is going to be, um, gut problems, joint problems,
um, they're just going to haveall types of issues.
I'm sure there's medicationsthat are being spent on that.
Oh yeah, we had a guy stop usthe other day, cause you know,
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we have the raw dog food truck.
Our, our truck is, has a wrapon it, and and, and.
That's what he said.
He said, well, it was expensive.
And we said how much do youlove your dog?
Yeah, what's your?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
dog.
What's your dog's?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
health worth, right.
And he was like, okay, nowyou're getting me.
And I just said, well, I, I Idon't know how, how to define it
any better than if you're in indecent health.
Do you want your health todecline because you're eating
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pop tarts and you're eating, youknow, cheerarts and you're
eating Cheerios?
And so people may say, no, I'meating the Lovebirds or the
Magic Mike's cereal.
Right, that's still processedfoods.
It may be a step up, but it'sstill processed foods.
Right, it's not real food.
And when we talk about realfood, we're talking about things
that haven't been concocted ina lab to make it something that
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you can eat.
Right, real food, things thatyou know chicken, duck, turkey
pork, beef, um, andunfortunately, the dadgum bird
flu is, uh causing problems.
I just got this from from brian.
He said you know, there was araw pet food company that
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they're going after, uh, becausethey said that it was a source
of infection to house cats.
Okay, here we go back with thecats again, dr jaycey, they're
sure picking on the poor cats,aren't they?
right, but here's, here's thepart of this that everybody
needs to know.
Brian says that the test cameback as non-negative.
(09:49):
Non-negative and apparentlythat's a term that defines a
test result as neitherconclusively positive or
conclusively negative.
He goes what the hell does thatmean?
Well, I don't know, brian,because I think that's senseless
.
I mean, it's like this meansthat it means absolutely nothing
(10:10):
.
And then they're like oh, youknow, I see these weren't.
Don't feed, you know your cat,you know duck or turkey or
chicken or whatever.
You know, dr jaycey, here's thething these farmers, the avian
flu um is identified, thesebirds are not going to be able
to fly.
(10:31):
They're going to be laying outon the floor, right?
So they know right.
Let's just say, even if thereis this thing I think it's
probably more they're in crampedplaces and you know right, um.
The other thing I was thinkingabout is this if, if avian flu
is so widespread, do you see alot of dead birds, like on your
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property anywhere?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
no, just the ones our cats kill, right?
Oh my gosh, they're gonna getbird flu.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I better tell them to quit killing birds you know
we're gonna be deemednon-serious and we're going to
be deemed whatever.
But I'm just like, I'm justshow me the proof this
non-negative, non-conclusive andnon-negative.
I mean non-positive,non-negative.
What the hell is that it'snonsensical is what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And even if so, I don't believe this birth losing
even exists, but just say it didand say that this food that the
cats ate truly had truly testedpositive for it.
There's still no.
That still doesn't prove thatthat's what they died from.
It shows that this food testedpositive for something, whatever
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that is.
And yes, we have a dead cat,supposedly.
Does that mean that that thingin the food killed the cat, that
it had anything to do?
Maybe the cat at antifreeze orsomething else?
You know, people don't thinkthrough the lack of logic and
just fall for this nonsensicalpropaganda.
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And then a test like that.
And even though something likethat comes out, people are still
going to be afraid of itbecause they hear the word.
You know, it's this programminggot to be afraid, afraid of the
bird flu.
I mean, I have clients ask meall the time about it and I used
to say that I tell them what Ijust said, that there's no proof
, there's no direct proof thatanything in that food killed
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those cats.
If there even was a dead cat,there's nothing that's
definitively proven any of that.
But people don't seem to thinkcritically, they just jump right
on the fear bandwagon.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Would that even get?
Let's just say it was in acourt of law okay, in a court of
law.
And you had to really have theevidence.
Okay, like a person.
Okay, so say a person is you'vegot a dead person.
Like a person, okay.
So say a person is you've got adead person.
And you've got a bowl ofporridge, okay, oatmeal.
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In today's world we'd sayoatmeal.
And you say, well, I think thatthis wife poisoned this husband
with the oatmeal.
Well, you have to prove that.
And how do you prove this?
So it's like that's whatthey're saying with this bird
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flu.
They're like well, I tested itand it has this non-negative,
non-positive thing in it.
Therefore, you're going toprison for the rest of your life
.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I mean you would never get that through a court
of law, right?
And the other thing has anybodyever proven that bird flu
survives stomach acid?
So most quote, unquote, viruses, you know you like breathe them
in.
And you know I can see chickensgetting sick in confinement,
where I mean these chickens arejust cramped in these little
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cages and it's dusty and dirtyand they're breathing in all
kinds of crap all the time,which is what makes them sick.
Probably not viruses.
So-called virus could evensurvive the stomach acid.
That's why dogs and cats havesuch, you know, a high acid
content.
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Such a low pH is so that theycan eat all this stuff with all
this bacteria and everything onit and if there's something in
there that that we don't want intheir body, that that acid will
eliminate it.
You know, has anybody looked atthat?
It's like they just put out thepropaganda that it's gonna fit
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their narrative and they want tomake.
They've been trying to getpeople, make people afraid of
raw feeding for a long time andnow they're just using this.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
They're using this to do it and it's working and then
you say, oh well, it's jumpedfrom, it's not just in the
chicken, it's in the beef,because we got to get rid of the
beef.
And you know, the other thingthat I did here, right, and I
heard about this three years agonow, about these electronic
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collars for the cattle.
I heard about it up in Craig,colorado, from a farmer out
there and he was all on boardabout this.
He was like you know, we'regoing to be able to get rid of
the cowboys, we don't have tohave fencing, we're going to put
these electronic collars onthese cattle and you come up
into sort of the geosphere andwe're able to track them that
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way, right, and so, yeah, what Iwas listening to, they were
saying one of the things thathad to happen in order to get
this bill passed through forthese electronic callers was
there had to be this fear, right.
And they were saying the birdflu is exactly what needed to
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happen in order to get thisthing passed through.
Remember, if you're going to dosomething that you would never
do otherwise, it has to comefrom a space that we are doing
it to help your grandmother live.
Right, we're helping.
It's for the good of all.
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It's for the good of all, andprobably not sure I mean I don't
.
The COVID narrative is stillout there, dr jacek.
I think that a lot of peoplehave woken up to it because did
that make any sense at all?
That you're going toincentivize someone to be deemed
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a covid patient?
That doesn't even make anysense and that should be
frightening as hell.
If you have a doctor thatactually took the money and was
was okay with being incentivizedto determine that you were a
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covid patient, that isfrightening oh yeah, you know, I
mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I guess, because of the stuff I listen to, I've
heard this many times from manypeople how much more a hospital
got paid just for the diagnosis,just for that COVID, and why?
Because they want to keep thefear going, because there
weren't any cases, there weren'tpeople dying, there was no
increased death, not until afterthey came up with the shots.
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So they had to create apandemic of testing, of positive
tests, not of an actual disease.
They had to, you know, keepthis narrative going.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
so how did they?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
do that well, they pay him and it was exorbitant.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I I don't like.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Something like 30,000 or something reached COVID
diagnosis.
I mean it was astronomical howmuch money hospitals made for
the diagnosis or putting peopleon the ventilator and basically
killing them.
They'd make like a hundredgrand to diagnose somebody with
COVID and and kill them and like, yeah, how scary is that.
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How, how could, how would youever trust a doctor again After
that?
I mean you have to be reallyreally careful or you have to be
sure you're carefullyscrutinizing your doctors.
You just don't blindly trustthem.
I'm sure there's some out therethat are trustworthy, but a lot
of them fell for thisshenanigans and all the interest
of money or keeping their job,and that really is frightening
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how indoctrinated the medicaldoctors have become.
It's the same with veterinarianstoo, by the way, I almost think
they're worse.
I actually got an email from aclient I don't know for sure if
she's a customer of yours or not, but she basically said you
know, are there anyveterinarians like banding
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together to speak out againstthis bird flu narrative?
Because she sees, she says thiscould be really devastating.
They could start taking pets,they could start euthanizing
pets in the interest ofpreventing the spread of bird
flu.
And she said during COVID, youknow, there were some doctors
that stepped outside the box andstarted speaking out.
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And she said Are there any, anyother vets like yourself doing
that?
You know, speaking to me and Isaid, sadly, none that I'm aware
of that all fall into the kindof virus narrative narrative.
Maybe some are talking, notquite as strong on the fear, but
I I don't know any, becausemost of any that's because most
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holistic vets are not veryholistic anyway.
So I and I think so, I think theveterinary profession is more
in the box than even humanmedicine is.
It's pretty sad.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Well, we've been doing this podcast for many,
many years and we've talked andtalked and talked about flea and
tick, we've talked aboutheartworm, we've talked about
the dangers, the absolutedangers of kibble, and that
doesn't shake anybody in theirboots.
They're like well, my dog, youknow I, you know it's like the
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Soresto commercial.
I want to protect him of thebig scary, you know, ticks and
all that kind of stuff.
I was talking to a lady theother day.
There's a, there's a woman hereand she's very, very holistic
and she said I've never done anyflea and tick, I've never done
heartworm, I've never done therabies, and she had the cats too
.
She had cats and the otherwoman was standing there.
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She goes well, what do you doabout mosquitoes?
And she said well, we don'teven have mosquitoes here.
You're in freaking Arizona.
Yeah, she was like we don't havemosquitoes here fewer
mosquitoes there than inColorado, than we're training in
Colorado right and she was like, oh, okay, and you know, I said
you could do garlic and andagain the whole garlic.
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Well, you can't give dogsgarlic.
And I said you can.
You know I get it's part of theonion family, but we're not
talking about bushels of it,we're talking about appropriate
amounts and um but isn't thatironic.
They're worried about thetoxicity of garlic garlic, but
not these medications right andbecause medications have become,
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they have desensitized us, tous they have.
They have said these are goingto be the thing that heals you.
Right, these are the thingsthat heal you, and I get it that
we do need Western medicine.
I'm not saying that we don't,but I'm saying that these just
in case things right.
Or your dog is ill and you lookat the food because you think
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it might be the bird flu.
I'm like, honestly, people lookaround you how many dogs?
And I don't know if there'sbeen a dog, why is it the cats?
You know, maybe the cat hadrenal kidney failure.
I mean, who knows how many catsdo we see?
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With that, right?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
and there's no information.
These cats that supposedly diedthere's are there medical
records, any other testing?
Did they test for anything else?
They?
They there supposedly is a deadcat and then the food tested
positive.
Nothing, nothing else.
There's no evidence.
You know.
People are like oh well, youknow, we need research studies
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and we need proof that this youknow, raw food is safe.
Well, there's no proof thatthese cats died of anything from
that food.
But no, that's the narrative.
It's like people.
They want a narrative thatthey're comfortable with for
some reason.
So they're comfortablebelieving that they don't want
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to be one of these weirdos thatsays raw food's good and healthy
because their vet doesn'tsupport that and most other
people think that they're crazyand that it's too expensive, so
they'd rather.
Just it's like they're lookingfor a reason to make raw food
bad.
Oh, now they got the bird flu,so now they can make raw food
bad because of that.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, and and again they're coming out with this.
Okay, so they're going to saythat raw pet food identified as
a source of bird flu infectionto house cats.
Now, I don't understand whythis, would you know be the case
?
And I will say that they weresaying you know, there's no
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human infections have beenidentified with those handling
raw pet food.
And I, you know, look, we getthe calls.
We have something on ourwebsite.
If you want to see whatstrenuous effort raw pet food
companies have to go through inorder to get the product to
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consumer, it's right there onthe website.
But again, dr Jasek, it's sortof like that dilated
cardiomyopathy bs that we had tofight for how many years before
the truth came out right.
But you know, you, you as ketopets identified, it costs sales
and it will take some raw petfood companies out.
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And then what are you going tofeed your dogs?
Then what are you going to do?
right, you better go get some ofthose um cattle with those
collars on them and stuff,because you're going to be
making your own you know, whenthere's so many factors to
health and again, you're rightthat I would love to see the
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medical records the other factoris for any dog or cat that's
sick, and I would like to seethe medical records for the last
five years, right.
What's been accumulating?
What have you done?
The other thing that we don'tknow is what?
What else are you putting inyour pet's body?
That we cannot know.
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But what we do know is thisthere is a big body of evidence,
right, that says there is onedog that is supposedly got this
diarrhea, one dog that hassupposedly got this diarrhea,
right Out of all of this, theseanimals that are eating it.
You have one dog.
You have one call, right?
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You remember when Purina hadits last issue, I think it was
Hills.
Was it Hills that had it?
Or Purina, where there were somany people talking about sick
dogs and dying dogs andeverything?
Look, the word gets out right.
You have a massive amount ofpeople at the same time feeding
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the same food, calling andsaying something is wrong.
When you have one that is justloose poops, or even maybe they
regurgitated their food, thatdoesn't mean the dog has the
bird flu or the dog is sick orthat sick word drives me insane.
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It means that something in theenvironment, something in the
food, something in the routinedid not agree with your dog at
that moment in time.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Right.
I look at diarrhea and I saylook, isn't that fabulous.
The body's identified somethingthat shouldn't be in there, so
get rid of it.
Isn't that wonderful?
Like just if the dog vomits upa little piece of bone.
You know, little piece of bonesit in the stomach a little too
long.
Look at that dog didn't wantthat piece of bone in the
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stomach.
It got a wonderful way ofgetting rid of it isn't that
wonderful, but most people likeoh my god, my dog vomited a
piece of bone, so that's bad.
So now the bone made the dogvomit, so then bone must be bad.
Oh, isn't bad.
Just a piece sits in there alittle too long.
They're going to regurgitate.
It's not bad.
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I mean, like mother wolves they.
They regurgitate food for theirpups.
Right, they go eating beforethe, as the pups are starting to
get mean, you know they, theadults, come back and they
regurgitate for them.
So it's not, it's, it's not abad thing.
People just think, oh, we'vegot these symptoms, so then
that's sick and that's a disease, and there must be some bad
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thing in there causing it.
Like, how about it's just partof the body staying healthy,
because the body knows how howto stay healthy, and but it, but
it gets recognized as as aproblem or as a disease, not as
a good thing.
And and unfortunately you knowpeople okay, dog's got diarrhea,
got to run right in.
Then what they're going to getput on antibiotics and and some
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sort of anti diarrheal somethingor other.
So then they're on more drugsand then the diarrhea will get
better.
And then people say, oh, itmust've been that medicine I got
.
Well, I would say they probablygot better in spite of the
medicine, not because of it,because what ends up happening
is in those bouts of diarrheakeep coming back sooner and
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sooner, or more and morefrequently because you're
trashing the gut with all theall the medications, instead of
just letting nature run itscourse yeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
It's a tough business , right, because it's so easily
targeted.
If you're in the kibblebusiness, they don't even
respond until there are manydead that's not just dead
animals, right, and they havethe money to just keep going.
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I mean, you don't see heelsbeing pulled from the market.
If you have ever read the bookReading Dogs from Dr Connor
Brady, there's a section inthere where he shows all of the
recalls from the kibblecompanies.
But you can create thisnarrative that says real food,
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bad, processed food, safe.
People will feed the processedfood.
They will be overweight, theywill have arthritis, they will
have joint pain, dogs the same.
And they won't make thatconnection.
They just won't because thetruth in the mind is that is
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safe.
I mean, you know what I just?
Here's the thing there are notnutritionists sitting in
anywhere for these kibblecompanies.
There are marketers.
And you look at what is the fearand how do we give a solution
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to that fear?
It doesn't have to be true,it's marketing, right?
Think about what we saw overthe last four years, right, and
I'm going to put out onepolitical thing and then I'm not
going to say anything.
But remember, the laptop wasnever real.
(30:38):
The laptop was never real.
However, he was pardoned by hisfather for a laptop that was
never real Does that make anysense?
And if you look at all thenonsensical stuff and I would
(31:03):
say, don't let your mind betotally eroded away with
nonsensical stuff, just likewhat Brian said Okay, it's
non-negative.
What does that mean, dr Jason?
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Does that mean positive?
It's non-negative, but thenit's neither conclusively
positive, right, did they getthat from the word salad lady?
No, evidently.
I mean I'm like, come on, itmakes no sense.
It's neither conclusivelypositive or negative.
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So how would a pet parent eventhink about that?
And how could you force arecall, dr?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
recall, dr jacek, on something like that well, I
guess, I guess they you know thefda has their magical powers so
they can go in and do it, evenif it doesn't make any sense, in
the name of public safety andand these smaller companies,
they can't fight it.
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The big companies they gotmoney, they got power.
They're owned by even biggercorporations, so the you can't
touch them.
And they got so much money itdoesn't matter.
I mean, is anybody watching ifhills had a recall?
Is anybody watching?
Make sure they even get rid ofthat food.
They're gonna probably justrepackaging it and selling it
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again.
You know who's watching them.
They got so much power.
They're part of these big, hugecorporate conglomerates that,
no, they can just do what theywant.
No, they're going to go afterthe little guys because they
have an agenda.
They want to take out the rawpet food industry.
They don't want that.
I don't want that out there.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
If they're so smart, dr Jasek, why is there recall
after recall after recall ontheir kibble products?
Why?
Why?
I mean seriously, you don'tknow what's causing the problem.
Maybe it's the 60 differentingredients you have in there,
maybe it's the way you formulateit, maybe it's the way you
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package it, but, honestly, thekibble companies outpace the raw
companies by miles on theirrecalls.
Yeah, you just don't see it.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Right and they just stay in business.
So they get a recall.
You'll see it in the news andthen, oh, it was another recall.
They, you know, fixed whateverthe problem is and you can just
keep buying their food.
It's not this whole oh kibble'sbad now, which is what should
be being said.
You know, it's like the rawfood, but one little thing, one
little bit of propaganda againstraw and like then everybody
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jumps on on that band right.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
So what did they do, what?
What steps have they taken toto move you further away from
raw?
They said, all right, well,let's do cooked, let's do ollie,
let's do farmer's dog, let's doall of this stuff that is
cooked food.
Let me ask you a question, guyslistening, if if you eat food
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void of nutrition, I mean why, Imean what happens?
Is that what you want?
Do you think about it whenyou're eating?
What kind of nutrition?
What am I ensuring that I'mgoing to get out of this food?
Right, is there anything goodin this food?
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Or is it just my body having tobreak it down and poop it out?
The sphincter?
I mean, right?
So what is this cooked fooddoing for your dog?
And in these commercials, youknow, I'm like'm like.
What is all that?
Is that like quinoa?
Is that like rice?
It's?
You know, there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
They put, they put tons of starches in them, that's
how they can afford to makethem actually and make them so
that they they cost less and youknow why are they doing it?
well, they know people areinterested in a fresher food.
People are starting to hearmaybe kibble isn't so good, so
they need to get a product outthere.
But to do a really good, youknow raw product with, you know
(35:35):
that's just meat based, that's.
It costs money.
It's expensive, right, it doescost money to do this, well.
And so how do they cut costs?
Well, they just put a bunch ofrice or keema or some kind of
starch potato, just those cheapfillers in there.
But then they market it.
They call it fresh, they evencall it raw.
I think I sent you a thing.
There was this company it wascalled raws, like r-a-w-z and it
(36:00):
wasn't at all raw, it was allcooked, but they called it that.
I mean, that's just themarketing, that's oh, people are
gonna think, think, oh, I'mbuying raw food, like no you're
not.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
It's like people say oh.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I feed raw.
Well, what do you?
Because I always ask exactlywhat they're feeding and it'd be
like these raw coated kibblesor something like that.
Oh, I feed, I feed this, youknow, raw coated kibble.
Okay, it says raw on the labelbecause they want you to think
it's fresher, but it's stillit's, it's kibble.
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It's like Froot Loops withyogurt on it or something
healthier.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, they're like well, it's, it's freeze, dried.
Well, that's not raw.
Right, they're like, well, airdried, no, that's still not raw.
Raw is you?
It's frozen and you leave itout.
And if you leave it out for youknow a certain amount of time,
it's going to go bad.
Right, it's got, just like it'shamburger meat, chicken thighs,
(37:00):
that sort of thing at yourgrocery store.
That stuff is raw, right?
Yeah, we've just talked aboutit at nauseam, but I can't.
I just, you know, dr jayzik,sometimes I just I fail to to be
able to explain it and I I justhave to say, hey, if you're
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that afraid, okay, you probablygot to do something different.
You probably got to dosomething different.
You probably got to dosomething different because it's
going to just scare the bejesusout of you.
It's not going to be a goodexperience for your dog, it's
not going to be a goodexperience for you.
Um, and yeah, I mean, we, wereally do want you to have the
(37:41):
healthiest dog possible.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Um, but that fear man , whoo, it's big so go ahead and
feed what you need to feed andI'm very sorry that your dog's
probably gonna you know, maybeyou know cancer in a few years.
And why don't you just keepvaccinating too?
Just do the whole do the wholenight.
I actually had a client ask methis a couple weeks ago, said,
(38:05):
what do I use to clean my dog'sbeard?
And I said, what do you meanclean your dog's beard?
He says, well, it's raw and itgets stuck in there.
And I got to get it all cleanedout.
I got to clean its beard everytime after it eats because it's
got like it's the food stuckthere.
I'm like you got too much timeon your hands.
(38:28):
It's not what I said get a lifeum, but water wipes.
Water wipes are just fine, yeahlike I'm like I guess, just
whatever you feel like you needto do to clean your dog's beard.
I was just kind of stunned inthe moment, like really asking
this we're really afraid ofthese little food particles
(38:49):
getting stuck in there, becauseyou don't ever get kibble crumbs
stuck in there and like that'sperfectly fine.
Oh my gosh, raw food that'sladen with all this horrible
bacteria and all this stuff.
You know.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, it's nuts, but you know, let's just real quick,
quick.
I want to touch on the canineinfluenza.
Okay, um, and I got thisarticle from dogs, naturally,
and they were talking about what, what is the agenda for the
canine influenza?
Because, they say, even theAmerican Veterinary Medical
(39:23):
Association, the ABMA, sayscanine influenza virus is not
widespread in the dog populationand many dogs have never been
exposed to the virus.
And even they say, look, a doggets a mild case.
Again, I would have to contend,how did we even figure out that
(39:44):
it was this virus?
But, um, they, they said theywant you to buy their vaccine.
Yeah, uh, so they said, as wellas the scary at break map.
So there was this map, you know, it said where is, where is the
, the, the influence of, youknow?
And they would put up theseheaders dog flu knows no
(40:06):
boundaries.
And and they said, but keep inmind that there, there, there
really hasn't been a huge deathrate.
I mean, the AVMA said that fromthe influenza, okay, that it was
10% um of dogs, but that, uh,dr jean dodge, you guys know dr
(40:29):
jean dodge, she estimated thereal fatality rate was more like
two percent, right, um, and shesaid that the 10 percent number
that the avma used was olderdata.
That's not relevant to today'sviruses and I know Dr Dodds is
still on the virus train, butshe said the death rate in
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groups of greyhounds whodeveloped hemorrhagic pneumonia
during earlier outbreaks werehigher and that that was from
this virus.
Right, um, and the cdc had evensaid our friends at the cdc
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that percentage of dogs infectedwith this canine influenza
disease was very, very small.
So you've got that narrativeand then you have the narrative
that they put out there Dog fluknows no boundaries.
So what do you need to do?
Get in here and get yourvaccine.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Right, exactly, and then compounding, that is.
Then you know your daycares andyour boarding kennels and
trainers and all that.
They jump on the fear bandwagonand while they don't want this
bird flu or dog flu goingthrough their kennel, you know
if they've got a bunch of dogsthere.
So then they start requiring itand then people are in a bind.
(41:54):
Well, if they need to boardtheir dog or they like to take
their dog to daycare, thenthey're required to do all these
, all these extra vaccines.
You know another thing that Ithink it's important to keep in
mind.
You mentioned the greyhounds.
Well, you have to look at whatcircumstances are dogs being
kept under.
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You know, if they're looking atracing greyhounds, that's a
really stressful life.
These dogs are kept in cages,I'm sure they're not fed good
diets and they're they're reallystressed.
They're just pushed to run.
They're just.
They're a fed good diets andthey're they're really stressed.
They're just pushed to run.
They're just, they're a moneymaking utility.
They don't live a good dog lifeby any means.
So they're very, very stressed.
So they're going to be moresusceptible to illness, whether
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it's the supposed dog flu orsomething else.
But if you're going to look ata population like that.
That is not going to berepresentative of your well
cared for, you know pet dog.
That's in a good home andeating a good diet.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Well, and then they say, look, here's your side
effects of the flu vaccinations,right, for dogs fatigue, fever,
vomiting, diarrhea, respiratorydistress, facial swelling, pale
gums and anaphylaxis.
And then they go on to say andthey aren't really very
effective, even they, you know,because they say look, the flu
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is constantly changing.
Every year they're going tomutate.
Right Now you and I may look atthat and say is it chemtrails?
And people could say thatchemtrails are a conspiracy
theory.
They are not.
But you know, if the body doesdetox which you and I believe
that it does in dogs and people,right then we have this
beautiful mechanism that says Igot to get this crap out of my
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body Every year.
Are they changing the thingsthat are in the environment?
And therefore it feels like,wow, this year the flu is coming
on really hard.
It really hit me hard becauseyour body's got to detox even
more stuff out.
Or maybe it's a strongersomething or other, maybe it's
(44:01):
too much plastic, maybe it's too.
You know who knows?
But it's so easy to just runwith these narratives and, yeah,
it's frightening.
It's frightening to me thatit's so easy If I think that
(44:23):
John F Kennedy or Bobby KennedyJr is going to be able to do
anything with the FDA and someof this crazy stuff or the CDC.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
I mean, there's a lot to it so we'll see, but at
least maybe, like I mean, I know, once these guys are in there,
like it's hard to affect changessometimes because there's a lot
of resistance but even justraising awareness or even just
(44:52):
starting to break the narrative,just saying the having somebody
up there instead of just beinglike the you know, fauci, or
whatever, just perpetuating thesame old narrative that there's
viruses and you need vaccinesand you know we got to be afraid
of all these things If thenarrative can start to crack
(45:14):
even a little bit, I thinkthat'll help.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yeah, dr Jean Dodds had said back in 2015, when,
when they had this big, you know, supposed canine influenza.
Here was her statement.
She said in regards toinfluenza, you probably should
allow nature to run its course.
Since the symptoms aregenerally mild and the fatality
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rate is extremely low.
Your pet will be more thanlikely fine and develop natural
immunity that will keep, willhelp protect against further
adaptations to any similar virus.
Um, so she was saying it's abad trade-off.
It's a bad trade-off, um, whenyou look at what are the risks
(46:00):
and the side effects ofvaccinations versus just letting
your dog deal with it, if, infact, it is that 2% that has to
deal with it.
So, and I, I, I think that shewould probably say the same
thing today.
I don't know, but this issomething that we do need to
think about.
(46:20):
But again, what can you guys do?
I think that you should becontacting, you know, your
representatives and and talkingto them about how do you help
protect the raw dog foodindustry?
Right, you want to be able toprotect the industry because you
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need to protect your dogs anddon't get caught up in the
narrative, but I think thatthere are things that people can
do, dr Jasek, they need tospeak out and say where is the
actual proof.
And I would be very concernedthat if all raw companies are
(47:03):
taken down and all you are leftwith is kibble, how healthy is
your pet going to be?
Speaker 2 (47:10):
It's going to be, that's going to be.
That would be awful.
That'd be devastating for forpets for sure.
But then a lot of people willjust say, see, I knew it wasn't
healthy.
That's what.
That's what people think, likeyou know.
Thank God the news finally gotout instead of, like you said,
standing your ground.
You know the people that haveseen the transformation in their
(47:32):
pets.
I'm gonna hear that all thetime.
You know I started on that rawfood and holy smokes.
You know I like a whole new dog.
They look great and they'velost weight and their coat's
great and they got great andthey and they actually enjoy
eating.
That's one thing I hear overand over again.
Like people, I actually talkedto a client last week and he
said I can't remember exactlywhat he's feeding before robin.
(47:52):
He said I used to.
I had to hand feed my dog.
I could not get my dog to eatbecause I just hand feed it and
and that was the only way Icould get it to eat and he says
now I put that wrong the dishand it just gobbles it up like
how, because he's eaten whatit's, you know what it's what
it's meant to eat.
So for those of you that haveseen that transformation in your
pet, you know, speak out aboutit.
(48:15):
You know you kind of have tostep outside your comfort zone
and ask the questions Is thereany real proof of this?
Because, look, I see theevidence in my own dog that my
dog just is so much healthier onit.
Yeah, if you really want tokeep this industry going, you're
gonna have to, you know, speakout against this narrative.
(48:35):
And it's, yeah, it'suncomfortable because it's a
little easier to go with theflow sometimes, but you know you
have to be an advocate for yourpet right?
Speaker 1 (48:43):
well, we are an advocate for your pet here at
raw dog food and company, and drjacek is as well.
So if you have any questionsabout raw feeding, vaccinations,
uh, any other kind of medicalprotocols that you're just kind
of questioning, I would get overto a h a vetcom, a h a vetcom,
(49:04):
and her will help you.
I think a second opinion forsomebody who is outside of the
narrative, outside of themainstream, is always good to
have.
Right, you need options and, um, we have a big history, that
that uh of animals, uh, uh, abig body of evidence that you
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guys don't have.
You just are looking at your,your one animal.
So sometimes it gets a littledaunting.
So get over to ahavetcom.
They'll help you understandwhat we've seen, um, in this new
paradigm of health.
Right, that's not kibble, okay?
So get over torawdogfoodandcompanycom.
Remember, brian can help you.
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Speaker 2 (50:14):
Your friends don't let friends feed, kibble y'all.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
That's right, we'll see you soon, everybody, bye-bye
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Oh snap.
Well, hello, raw Feeders.
I'm Deedee Mercer-Muffet, ceoof Raw Dog Food Company.
Well, your pet's health is ourbusiness and we're friends, like
my friend Dr Judy Jasik.
Well, she's out there helpingall the dogs in the world not
eat kibble, or at least you try.
Right, dr Jasik?
We do the best we can.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
All we can do is educate.
You know, and we just tellpeople.
People sometimes slip back down.
You know raw is too expensive,or what about the bird flu?
Or what about this, what aboutthat.
But you know all we can do isis tell people.
And you know like after allthese years you know just like
you Dee, you see the results andthe benefits of feeding raw for
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so many years.
Like there's just no questionin my mind.
It's, it's the best.
Some dogs have, you know,issues.
They've come to us, they'vebeen on lots of drugs, lots of
medications, lots of antibiotics, so their guts kind of messed
up and it's a little harder toget them to transition.
But now there's no question,it's the best diet.
So we we keep trying.
(01:07):
It'd be a heck of a lot easier.
Just recommend kibble right,like if we're in the kibble
business, we could retire well,they're gazillion billionaires.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I mean you know what I'm saying and um, it's, I mean,
it's marketing again, and welove to look at all the crazy
marketing that's out there,right?
I still I got to rant aboutthis a little bit more.
There's so many fat dogs.
I just, you know, it pains me,dr Jasek, when I am seeing these
(01:43):
fat dogs and I'm sorry, I'mgoing to fat shame.
I'm fat shaming these dogsbecause it is so incredibly
negligible on the pet parent'spart when you, you know, here's
what I would say.
And it came to me the other daywhen one of our neighbors here
(02:04):
had a sack of grapefruits andshe said take as many as you
want.
So I took two grapefruits Now,these are just two and I put
them in my sweatshirt and I wascarrying them.
Now, that couldn't have been.
I don't know, maybe was thateven a pound, I don't know.
But it was bothersome to evencarry that much weight right
(02:25):
there in the front pockets of mysweatshirt and I was thinking
how bothersome, how tragic is itthat a dog is carrying around
15, 20 pounds?
And I'm not kidding you that.
I see these labs and thesegoldens.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And these goldens, they are waddling, waddling like
a duck I see that here too, andso, so, so sad.
And even, like you know, one ofour neighbors that we know
pretty well and she kind ofunderstands and they're kind of
a little more, you know,health-oriented, and talked to
her about raw and you know Isent her information on you guys
, oh, that's just too expensiveand their dogs probably 30
(03:11):
pounds overweight, you know,just really really heavy.
She's the same thing.
Oh, she's sore, she's gotarthritis.
The dog doesn't want to do youand they walk a little bit like
just lay down, because not onlyare they overweight and that's
hard on their joints, but thentheir joints are all inflamed
from, you know, from the kibbleand it's.
It really is tragic, it's thesame.
(03:33):
I just, it just breaks my heartto see all these plus plus.
Lots of them are overvaccinated.
I'm fleeing tick and all thisother stuff and they're just in
such poor health and it's such apoor quality of life.
It's really sad to see.
You know, I was going to say Ithink last week you mentioned
how people also like dress theirdogs up there.
(03:53):
Maybe it's to hide the fat.
Do they use vertical stripesand stuff to make them look
slimmer?
I like these leggings that havea stripe down the side because
they do.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
They make my it look slimmer.
I like these leggings that havethe stripes down the side,
because they do they make mylegs look slimmer.
I saw Adobe, so I was walkingyesterday.
Now you have to understand, I'mcurrently in Arizona.
Okay, I'm in the Scottsdalearea and it is not cold here.
So I'm not in Colorado rightnow where it is, uh, where it is
(04:24):
dumping snow and it is supercold.
Even in Oklahoma it's supercold.
So I get it If you want to puta jacket on your dog or even
booties on your dog right whenyou're out in the snow.
But it is not cold here, noteven in the mornings Is it cold.
And I was walking yesterdaymorning and this Dobie, this
Doberman Pinscher's, got thisbig old jacket on and I'm like
(04:52):
you just don't look scary in abig jacket.
Dog's probably like I am so hot, take this coat off me.
No kidding.
But the ones that really botherme are the little Yorkies that
have hats and sunglasses on.
(05:12):
I'm just like I don't, you know, a dog's eyes are made to, you
know, see things in a certainway, and I'm like how do those
glasses affect their vision?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
That is so like anthropomorphizing, isn't it?
Like people like to wear theirsunglasses, so I've got to put
sunglasses on my dog.
Yeah, I mean, it's got to bereally uncomfortable for him.
I can't imagine.
You know, when I have littledogs I had little chihuahuas for
years I never dressed them up,even if it was really cold, and
(05:46):
they didn't even like wearingclothes, like I would get little
coats because they didn't likethe cold.
So when it was really cold I'dput a little coat on them to go
outside.
But like they hated them my onelittle five pounder, you know,
I put a sweater on her and she'djust stand there and stare at
me Like take this thing off, youknow.
(06:06):
So I'm like fine, just gooutside.
They'd go outside, go potty andjust come right back in.
They're content just hangingout inside.
If the weather was cold, theyjust didn't stay outside.
But they didn't like beingdressed up.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I don't, you know, I don't know well, you know, it's
always worrisome because, um,the only way that dogs can cool
themselves down is, you know,they got a pant through their
mouth and their feet right, andso it's like come on, peeps.
But whatever I mean, you know,I'm ragging on, I'm ragging on,
I'm ragging on some people andthey're like, but I'm dressing
(06:34):
up my dog, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well then, at least feed them raw, you know, because
if they at least got some ofthat weight off, they won't be
so hot in all those clothes.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You know I was, I was looking at um, ozempic, okay,
and and I'm going to, I'm goingto connect these two because I
was, I was looking about.
You know, there's a lot ofthings that come out about
Ozempic and then included inthose articles are why being
(07:05):
overweight is so unhealthy,Right?
Those articles are why beingoverweight is so unhealthy,
right?
So if you know that beingoverweight causes arthritis, it
causes inflammation, it causesall types of things to go wrong
in the body, right, they saythat for people, when you're
carrying around excessive, youknow belly fat, that you are
susceptible to cancer, right?
(07:26):
So think about this, dr Jason,we have an epidemic of fat dogs
and we have an epidemic ofcancer in dogs as well.
And then people want to say rawis too expensive.
And I'm thinking well, well,I'm certain that these
(07:47):
overweight dogs have problems.
Right, they're going to havesome type of problem.
Whether that is going to be, um, gut problems, joint problems,
um, they're just going to haveall types of issues.
I'm sure there's medicationsthat are being spent on that.
Oh yeah, we had a guy stop usthe other day, cause you know,
(08:07):
we have the raw dog food truck.
Our, our truck is, has a wrapon it, and and, and.
That's what he said.
He said, well, it was expensive.
And we said how much do youlove your dog?
Yeah, what's your?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
dog.
What's your dog's?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
health worth, right.
And he was like, okay, nowyou're getting me.
And I just said, well, I, I Idon't know how, how to define it
any better than if you're in indecent health.
Do you want your health todecline because you're eating
(08:40):
pop tarts and you're eating, youknow, cheerarts and you're
eating Cheerios?
And so people may say, no, I'meating the Lovebirds or the
Magic Mike's cereal.
Right, that's still processedfoods.
It may be a step up, but it'sstill processed foods.
Right, it's not real food.
And when we talk about realfood, we're talking about things
that haven't been concocted ina lab to make it something that
(09:04):
you can eat.
Right, real food, things thatyou know chicken, duck, turkey
pork, beef, um, andunfortunately, the dadgum bird
flu is, uh causing problems.
I just got this from from brian.
He said you know, there was araw pet food company that
(09:24):
they're going after, uh, becausethey said that it was a source
of infection to house cats.
Okay, here we go back with thecats again, dr jaycey, they're
sure picking on the poor cats,aren't they?
right, but here's, here's thepart of this that everybody
needs to know.
Brian says that the test cameback as non-negative.
(09:49):
Non-negative and apparentlythat's a term that defines a
test result as neitherconclusively positive or
conclusively negative.
He goes what the hell does thatmean?
Well, I don't know, brian,because I think that's senseless
.
I mean, it's like this meansthat it means absolutely nothing
(10:10):
.
And then they're like oh, youknow, I see these weren't.
Don't feed, you know your cat,you know duck or turkey or
chicken or whatever.
You know, dr jaycey, here's thething these farmers, the avian
flu um is identified, thesebirds are not going to be able
to fly.
(10:31):
They're going to be laying outon the floor, right?
So they know right.
Let's just say, even if thereis this thing I think it's
probably more they're in crampedplaces and you know right, um.
The other thing I was thinkingabout is this if, if avian flu
is so widespread, do you see alot of dead birds, like on your
(10:53):
property anywhere?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
no, just the ones our cats kill, right?
Oh my gosh, they're gonna getbird flu.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I better tell them to quit killing birds you know
we're gonna be deemednon-serious and we're going to
be deemed whatever.
But I'm just like, I'm justshow me the proof this
non-negative, non-conclusive andnon-negative.
I mean non-positive,non-negative.
What the hell is that it'snonsensical is what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And even if so, I don't believe this birth losing
even exists, but just say it didand say that this food that the
cats ate truly had truly testedpositive for it.
There's still no.
That still doesn't prove thatthat's what they died from.
It shows that this food testedpositive for something, whatever
(11:50):
that is.
And yes, we have a dead cat,supposedly.
Does that mean that that thingin the food killed the cat, that
it had anything to do?
Maybe the cat at antifreeze orsomething else?
You know, people don't thinkthrough the lack of logic and
just fall for this nonsensicalpropaganda.
(12:11):
And then a test like that.
And even though something likethat comes out, people are still
going to be afraid of itbecause they hear the word.
You know, it's this programminggot to be afraid, afraid of the
bird flu.
I mean, I have clients ask meall the time about it and I used
to say that I tell them what Ijust said, that there's no proof
, there's no direct proof thatanything in that food killed
(12:36):
those cats.
If there even was a dead cat,there's nothing that's
definitively proven any of that.
But people don't seem to thinkcritically, they just jump right
on the fear bandwagon.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Would that even get?
Let's just say it was in acourt of law okay, in a court of
law.
And you had to really have theevidence.
Okay, like a person.
Okay, so say a person is you'vegot a dead person.
Like a person, okay.
So say a person is you've got adead person.
And you've got a bowl ofporridge, okay, oatmeal.
(13:13):
In today's world we'd sayoatmeal.
And you say, well, I think thatthis wife poisoned this husband
with the oatmeal.
Well, you have to prove that.
And how do you prove this?
So it's like that's whatthey're saying with this bird
(13:33):
flu.
They're like well, I tested itand it has this non-negative,
non-positive thing in it.
Therefore, you're going toprison for the rest of your life
.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I mean you would never get that through a court
of law, right?
And the other thing has anybodyever proven that bird flu
survives stomach acid?
So most quote, unquote, viruses, you know you like breathe them
in.
And you know I can see chickensgetting sick in confinement,
where I mean these chickens arejust cramped in these little
(14:07):
cages and it's dusty and dirtyand they're breathing in all
kinds of crap all the time,which is what makes them sick.
Probably not viruses.
So-called virus could evensurvive the stomach acid.
That's why dogs and cats havesuch, you know, a high acid
content.
(14:27):
Such a low pH is so that theycan eat all this stuff with all
this bacteria and everything onit and if there's something in
there that that we don't want intheir body, that that acid will
eliminate it.
You know, has anybody looked atthat?
It's like they just put out thepropaganda that it's gonna fit
(14:48):
their narrative and they want tomake.
They've been trying to getpeople, make people afraid of
raw feeding for a long time andnow they're just using this.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
They're using this to do it and it's working and then
you say, oh well, it's jumpedfrom, it's not just in the
chicken, it's in the beef,because we got to get rid of the
beef.
And you know, the other thingthat I did here, right, and I
heard about this three years agonow, about these electronic
(15:22):
collars for the cattle.
I heard about it up in Craig,colorado, from a farmer out
there and he was all on boardabout this.
He was like you know, we'regoing to be able to get rid of
the cowboys, we don't have tohave fencing, we're going to put
these electronic collars onthese cattle and you come up
into sort of the geosphere andwe're able to track them that
(15:45):
way, right, and so, yeah, what Iwas listening to, they were
saying one of the things thathad to happen in order to get
this bill passed through forthese electronic callers was
there had to be this fear, right.
And they were saying the birdflu is exactly what needed to
(16:07):
happen in order to get thisthing passed through.
Remember, if you're going to dosomething that you would never
do otherwise, it has to comefrom a space that we are doing
it to help your grandmother live.
Right, we're helping.
It's for the good of all.
(16:27):
It's for the good of all, andprobably not sure I mean I don't
.
The COVID narrative is stillout there, dr jacek.
I think that a lot of peoplehave woken up to it because did
that make any sense at all?
That you're going toincentivize someone to be deemed
(16:48):
a covid patient?
That doesn't even make anysense and that should be
frightening as hell.
If you have a doctor thatactually took the money and was
was okay with being incentivizedto determine that you were a
(17:08):
covid patient, that isfrightening oh yeah, you know, I
mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I guess, because of the stuff I listen to, I've
heard this many times from manypeople how much more a hospital
got paid just for the diagnosis,just for that COVID, and why?
Because they want to keep thefear going, because there
weren't any cases, there weren'tpeople dying, there was no
increased death, not until afterthey came up with the shots.
(17:36):
So they had to create apandemic of testing, of positive
tests, not of an actual disease.
They had to, you know, keepthis narrative going.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
so how did they?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
do that well, they pay him and it was exorbitant.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I I don't like.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Something like 30,000 or something reached COVID
diagnosis.
I mean it was astronomical howmuch money hospitals made for
the diagnosis or putting peopleon the ventilator and basically
killing them.
They'd make like a hundredgrand to diagnose somebody with
COVID and and kill them and like, yeah, how scary is that.
(18:13):
How, how could, how would youever trust a doctor again After
that?
I mean you have to be reallyreally careful or you have to be
sure you're carefullyscrutinizing your doctors.
You just don't blindly trustthem.
I'm sure there's some out therethat are trustworthy, but a lot
of them fell for thisshenanigans and all the interest
of money or keeping their job,and that really is frightening
(18:38):
how indoctrinated the medicaldoctors have become.
It's the same with veterinarianstoo, by the way, I almost think
they're worse.
I actually got an email from aclient I don't know for sure if
she's a customer of yours or not, but she basically said you
know, are there anyveterinarians like banding
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together to speak out againstthis bird flu narrative?
Because she sees, she says thiscould be really devastating.
They could start taking pets,they could start euthanizing
pets in the interest ofpreventing the spread of bird
flu.
And she said during COVID, youknow, there were some doctors
that stepped outside the box andstarted speaking out.
(19:22):
And she said Are there any, anyother vets like yourself doing
that?
You know, speaking to me and Isaid, sadly, none that I'm aware
of that all fall into the kindof virus narrative narrative.
Maybe some are talking, notquite as strong on the fear, but
I I don't know any, becausemost of any that's because most
(19:46):
holistic vets are not veryholistic anyway.
So I and I think so, I think theveterinary profession is more
in the box than even humanmedicine is.
It's pretty sad.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Well, we've been doing this podcast for many,
many years and we've talked andtalked and talked about flea and
tick, we've talked aboutheartworm, we've talked about
the dangers, the absolutedangers of kibble, and that
doesn't shake anybody in theirboots.
They're like well, my dog, youknow I, you know it's like the
(20:28):
Soresto commercial.
I want to protect him of thebig scary, you know, ticks and
all that kind of stuff.
I was talking to a lady theother day.
There's a, there's a woman hereand she's very, very holistic
and she said I've never done anyflea and tick, I've never done
heartworm, I've never done therabies, and she had the cats too
.
She had cats and the otherwoman was standing there.
(20:50):
She goes well, what do you doabout mosquitoes?
And she said well, we don'teven have mosquitoes here.
You're in freaking Arizona.
Yeah, she was like we don't havemosquitoes here fewer
mosquitoes there than inColorado, than we're training in
Colorado right and she was like, oh, okay, and you know, I said
you could do garlic and andagain the whole garlic.
(21:12):
Well, you can't give dogsgarlic.
And I said you can.
You know I get it's part of theonion family, but we're not
talking about bushels of it,we're talking about appropriate
amounts and um but isn't thatironic.
They're worried about thetoxicity of garlic garlic, but
not these medications right andbecause medications have become,
(21:35):
they have desensitized us, tous they have.
They have said these are goingto be the thing that heals you.
Right, these are the thingsthat heal you, and I get it that
we do need Western medicine.
I'm not saying that we don't,but I'm saying that these just
in case things right.
Or your dog is ill and you lookat the food because you think
(22:00):
it might be the bird flu.
I'm like, honestly, people lookaround you how many dogs?
And I don't know if there'sbeen a dog, why is it the cats?
You know, maybe the cat hadrenal kidney failure.
I mean, who knows how many catsdo we see?
(22:22):
With that, right?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
and there's no information.
These cats that supposedly diedthere's are there medical
records, any other testing?
Did they test for anything else?
They?
They there supposedly is a deadcat and then the food tested
positive.
Nothing, nothing else.
There's no evidence.
You know.
People are like oh well, youknow, we need research studies
(22:46):
and we need proof that this youknow, raw food is safe.
Well, there's no proof thatthese cats died of anything from
that food.
But no, that's the narrative.
It's like people.
They want a narrative thatthey're comfortable with for
some reason.
So they're comfortablebelieving that they don't want
(23:06):
to be one of these weirdos thatsays raw food's good and healthy
because their vet doesn'tsupport that and most other
people think that they're crazyand that it's too expensive, so
they'd rather.
Just it's like they're lookingfor a reason to make raw food
bad.
Oh, now they got the bird flu,so now they can make raw food
bad because of that.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, and and again they're coming out with this.
Okay, so they're going to saythat raw pet food identified as
a source of bird flu infectionto house cats.
Now, I don't understand whythis, would you know be the case
?
And I will say that they weresaying you know, there's no
(23:49):
human infections have beenidentified with those handling
raw pet food.
And I, you know, look, we getthe calls.
We have something on ourwebsite.
If you want to see whatstrenuous effort raw pet food
companies have to go through inorder to get the product to
(24:09):
consumer, it's right there onthe website.
But again, dr Jasek, it's sortof like that dilated
cardiomyopathy bs that we had tofight for how many years before
the truth came out right.
But you know, you, you as ketopets identified, it costs sales
and it will take some raw petfood companies out.
(24:34):
And then what are you going tofeed your dogs?
Then what are you going to do?
right, you better go get some ofthose um cattle with those
collars on them and stuff,because you're going to be
making your own you know, whenthere's so many factors to
health and again, you're rightthat I would love to see the
(25:00):
medical records the other factoris for any dog or cat that's
sick, and I would like to seethe medical records for the last
five years, right.
What's been accumulating?
What have you done?
The other thing that we don'tknow is what?
What else are you putting inyour pet's body?
That we cannot know.
(25:22):
But what we do know is thisthere is a big body of evidence,
right, that says there is onedog that is supposedly got this
diarrhea, one dog that hassupposedly got this diarrhea,
right Out of all of this, theseanimals that are eating it.
You have one dog.
You have one call, right?
(25:43):
You remember when Purina hadits last issue, I think it was
Hills.
Was it Hills that had it?
Or Purina, where there were somany people talking about sick
dogs and dying dogs andeverything?
Look, the word gets out right.
You have a massive amount ofpeople at the same time feeding
(26:05):
the same food, calling andsaying something is wrong.
When you have one that is justloose poops, or even maybe they
regurgitated their food, thatdoesn't mean the dog has the
bird flu or the dog is sick orthat sick word drives me insane.
(26:29):
It means that something in theenvironment, something in the
food, something in the routinedid not agree with your dog at
that moment in time.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Right.
I look at diarrhea and I saylook, isn't that fabulous.
The body's identified somethingthat shouldn't be in there, so
get rid of it.
Isn't that wonderful?
Like just if the dog vomits upa little piece of bone.
You know, little piece of bonesit in the stomach a little too
long.
Look at that dog didn't wantthat piece of bone in the
(27:01):
stomach.
It got a wonderful way ofgetting rid of it isn't that
wonderful, but most people likeoh my god, my dog vomited a
piece of bone, so that's bad.
So now the bone made the dogvomit, so then bone must be bad.
Oh, isn't bad.
Just a piece sits in there alittle too long.
They're going to regurgitate.
It's not bad.
(27:22):
I mean, like mother wolves they.
They regurgitate food for theirpups.
Right, they go eating beforethe, as the pups are starting to
get mean, you know they, theadults, come back and they
regurgitate for them.
So it's not, it's, it's not abad thing.
People just think, oh, we'vegot these symptoms, so then
that's sick and that's a disease, and there must be some bad
(27:48):
thing in there causing it.
Like, how about it's just partof the body staying healthy,
because the body knows how howto stay healthy, and but it, but
it gets recognized as as aproblem or as a disease, not as
a good thing.
And and unfortunately you knowpeople okay, dog's got diarrhea,
got to run right in.
Then what they're going to getput on antibiotics and and some
(28:12):
sort of anti diarrheal somethingor other.
So then they're on more drugsand then the diarrhea will get
better.
And then people say, oh, itmust've been that medicine I got
.
Well, I would say they probablygot better in spite of the
medicine, not because of it,because what ends up happening
is in those bouts of diarrheakeep coming back sooner and
(28:32):
sooner, or more and morefrequently because you're
trashing the gut with all theall the medications, instead of
just letting nature run itscourse yeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
It's a tough business , right, because it's so easily
targeted.
If you're in the kibblebusiness, they don't even
respond until there are manydead that's not just dead
animals, right, and they havethe money to just keep going.
(29:05):
I mean, you don't see heelsbeing pulled from the market.
If you have ever read the bookReading Dogs from Dr Connor
Brady, there's a section inthere where he shows all of the
recalls from the kibblecompanies.
But you can create thisnarrative that says real food,
(29:28):
bad, processed food, safe.
People will feed the processedfood.
They will be overweight, theywill have arthritis, they will
have joint pain, dogs the same.
And they won't make thatconnection.
They just won't because thetruth in the mind is that is
(29:54):
safe.
I mean, you know what I just?
Here's the thing there are notnutritionists sitting in
anywhere for these kibblecompanies.
There are marketers.
And you look at what is the fearand how do we give a solution
(30:18):
to that fear?
It doesn't have to be true,it's marketing, right?
Think about what we saw overthe last four years, right, and
I'm going to put out onepolitical thing and then I'm not
going to say anything.
But remember, the laptop wasnever real.
(30:38):
The laptop was never real.
However, he was pardoned by hisfather for a laptop that was
never real Does that make anysense?
And if you look at all thenonsensical stuff and I would
(31:03):
say, don't let your mind betotally eroded away with
nonsensical stuff, just likewhat Brian said Okay, it's
non-negative.
What does that mean, dr Jason?
(31:26):
Does that mean positive?
It's non-negative, but thenit's neither conclusively
positive, right, did they getthat from the word salad lady?
No, evidently.
I mean I'm like, come on, itmakes no sense.
It's neither conclusivelypositive or negative.
(31:53):
So how would a pet parent eventhink about that?
And how could you force arecall, dr?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
recall, dr jacek, on something like that well, I
guess, I guess they you know thefda has their magical powers so
they can go in and do it, evenif it doesn't make any sense, in
the name of public safety andand these smaller companies,
they can't fight it.
(32:24):
The big companies they gotmoney, they got power.
They're owned by even biggercorporations, so the you can't
touch them.
And they got so much money itdoesn't matter.
I mean, is anybody watching ifhills had a recall?
Is anybody watching?
Make sure they even get rid ofthat food.
They're gonna probably justrepackaging it and selling it
(32:46):
again.
You know who's watching them.
They got so much power.
They're part of these big, hugecorporate conglomerates that,
no, they can just do what theywant.
No, they're going to go afterthe little guys because they
have an agenda.
They want to take out the rawpet food industry.
They don't want that.
I don't want that out there.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
If they're so smart, dr Jasek, why is there recall
after recall after recall ontheir kibble products?
Why?
Why?
I mean seriously, you don'tknow what's causing the problem.
Maybe it's the 60 differentingredients you have in there,
maybe it's the way you formulateit, maybe it's the way you
(33:27):
package it, but, honestly, thekibble companies outpace the raw
companies by miles on theirrecalls.
Yeah, you just don't see it.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Right and they just stay in business.
So they get a recall.
You'll see it in the news andthen, oh, it was another recall.
They, you know, fixed whateverthe problem is and you can just
keep buying their food.
It's not this whole oh kibble'sbad now, which is what should
be being said.
You know, it's like the rawfood, but one little thing, one
little bit of propaganda againstraw and like then everybody
(34:04):
jumps on on that band right.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
So what did they do, what?
What steps have they taken toto move you further away from
raw?
They said, all right, well,let's do cooked, let's do ollie,
let's do farmer's dog, let's doall of this stuff that is
cooked food.
Let me ask you a question, guyslistening, if if you eat food
(34:29):
void of nutrition, I mean why, Imean what happens?
Is that what you want?
Do you think about it whenyou're eating?
What kind of nutrition?
What am I ensuring that I'mgoing to get out of this food?
Right, is there anything goodin this food?
(34:50):
Or is it just my body having tobreak it down and poop it out?
The sphincter?
I mean, right?
So what is this cooked fooddoing for your dog?
And in these commercials, youknow, I'm like'm like.
What is all that?
Is that like quinoa?
Is that like rice?
It's?
You know, there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
They put, they put tons of starches in them, that's
how they can afford to makethem actually and make them so
that they they cost less and youknow why are they doing it?
well, they know people areinterested in a fresher food.
People are starting to hearmaybe kibble isn't so good, so
they need to get a product outthere.
But to do a really good, youknow raw product with, you know
(35:35):
that's just meat based, that's.
It costs money.
It's expensive, right, it doescost money to do this, well.
And so how do they cut costs?
Well, they just put a bunch ofrice or keema or some kind of
starch potato, just those cheapfillers in there.
But then they market it.
They call it fresh, they evencall it raw.
I think I sent you a thing.
There was this company it wascalled raws, like r-a-w-z and it
(36:00):
wasn't at all raw, it was allcooked, but they called it that.
I mean, that's just themarketing, that's oh, people are
gonna think, think, oh, I'mbuying raw food, like no you're
not.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
It's like people say oh.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I feed raw.
Well, what do you?
Because I always ask exactlywhat they're feeding and it'd be
like these raw coated kibblesor something like that.
Oh, I feed, I feed this, youknow, raw coated kibble.
Okay, it says raw on the labelbecause they want you to think
it's fresher, but it's stillit's, it's kibble.
(36:31):
It's like Froot Loops withyogurt on it or something
healthier.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, they're like well, it's, it's freeze, dried.
Well, that's not raw.
Right, they're like, well, airdried, no, that's still not raw.
Raw is you?
It's frozen and you leave itout.
And if you leave it out for youknow a certain amount of time,
it's going to go bad.
Right, it's got, just like it'shamburger meat, chicken thighs,
(37:00):
that sort of thing at yourgrocery store.
That stuff is raw, right?
Yeah, we've just talked aboutit at nauseam, but I can't.
I just, you know, dr jayzik,sometimes I just I fail to to be
able to explain it and I I justhave to say, hey, if you're
(37:20):
that afraid, okay, you probablygot to do something different.
You probably got to dosomething different.
You probably got to dosomething different because it's
going to just scare the bejesusout of you.
It's not going to be a goodexperience for your dog, it's
not going to be a goodexperience for you.
Um, and yeah, I mean, we, wereally do want you to have the
(37:41):
healthiest dog possible.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Um, but that fear man , whoo, it's big so go ahead and
feed what you need to feed andI'm very sorry that your dog's
probably gonna you know, maybeyou know cancer in a few years.
And why don't you just keepvaccinating too?
Just do the whole do the wholenight.
I actually had a client ask methis a couple weeks ago, said,
(38:05):
what do I use to clean my dog'sbeard?
And I said, what do you meanclean your dog's beard?
He says, well, it's raw and itgets stuck in there.
And I got to get it all cleanedout.
I got to clean its beard everytime after it eats because it's
got like it's the food stuckthere.
I'm like you got too much timeon your hands.
(38:28):
It's not what I said get a lifeum, but water wipes.
Water wipes are just fine, yeahlike I'm like I guess, just
whatever you feel like you needto do to clean your dog's beard.
I was just kind of stunned inthe moment, like really asking
this we're really afraid ofthese little food particles
(38:49):
getting stuck in there, becauseyou don't ever get kibble crumbs
stuck in there and like that'sperfectly fine.
Oh my gosh, raw food that'sladen with all this horrible
bacteria and all this stuff.
You know.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, it's nuts, but you know, let's just real quick,
quick.
I want to touch on the canineinfluenza.
Okay, um, and I got thisarticle from dogs, naturally,
and they were talking about what, what is the agenda for the
canine influenza?
Because, they say, even theAmerican Veterinary Medical
(39:23):
Association, the ABMA, sayscanine influenza virus is not
widespread in the dog populationand many dogs have never been
exposed to the virus.
And even they say, look, a doggets a mild case.
Again, I would have to contend,how did we even figure out that
(39:44):
it was this virus?
But, um, they, they said theywant you to buy their vaccine.
Yeah, uh, so they said, as wellas the scary at break map.
So there was this map, you know, it said where is, where is the
, the, the influence of, youknow?
And they would put up theseheaders dog flu knows no
(40:06):
boundaries.
And and they said, but keep inmind that there, there, there
really hasn't been a huge deathrate.
I mean, the AVMA said that fromthe influenza, okay, that it was
10% um of dogs, but that, uh,dr jean dodge, you guys know dr
(40:29):
jean dodge, she estimated thereal fatality rate was more like
two percent, right, um, and shesaid that the 10 percent number
that the avma used was olderdata.
That's not relevant to today'sviruses and I know Dr Dodds is
still on the virus train, butshe said the death rate in
(40:51):
groups of greyhounds whodeveloped hemorrhagic pneumonia
during earlier outbreaks werehigher and that that was from
this virus.
Right, um, and the cdc had evensaid our friends at the cdc
(41:12):
that percentage of dogs infectedwith this canine influenza
disease was very, very small.
So you've got that narrativeand then you have the narrative
that they put out there Dog fluknows no boundaries.
So what do you need to do?
Get in here and get yourvaccine.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Right, exactly, and then compounding, that is.
Then you know your daycares andyour boarding kennels and
trainers and all that.
They jump on the fear bandwagonand while they don't want this
bird flu or dog flu goingthrough their kennel, you know
if they've got a bunch of dogsthere.
So then they start requiring itand then people are in a bind.
(41:54):
Well, if they need to boardtheir dog or they like to take
their dog to daycare, thenthey're required to do all these
, all these extra vaccines.
You know another thing that Ithink it's important to keep in
mind.
You mentioned the greyhounds.
Well, you have to look at whatcircumstances are dogs being
kept under.
(42:14):
You know, if they're looking atracing greyhounds, that's a
really stressful life.
These dogs are kept in cages,I'm sure they're not fed good
diets and they're they're reallystressed.
They're just pushed to run.
They're just.
They're a fed good diets andthey're they're really stressed.
They're just pushed to run.
They're just, they're a moneymaking utility.
They don't live a good dog lifeby any means.
So they're very, very stressed.
So they're going to be moresusceptible to illness, whether
(42:37):
it's the supposed dog flu orsomething else.
But if you're going to look ata population like that.
That is not going to berepresentative of your well
cared for, you know pet dog.
That's in a good home andeating a good diet.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Well, and then they say, look, here's your side
effects of the flu vaccinations,right, for dogs fatigue, fever,
vomiting, diarrhea, respiratorydistress, facial swelling, pale
gums and anaphylaxis.
And then they go on to say andthey aren't really very
effective, even they, you know,because they say look, the flu
(43:16):
is constantly changing.
Every year they're going tomutate.
Right Now you and I may look atthat and say is it chemtrails?
And people could say thatchemtrails are a conspiracy
theory.
They are not.
But you know, if the body doesdetox which you and I believe
that it does in dogs and people,right then we have this
beautiful mechanism that says Igot to get this crap out of my
(43:39):
body Every year.
Are they changing the thingsthat are in the environment?
And therefore it feels like,wow, this year the flu is coming
on really hard.
It really hit me hard becauseyour body's got to detox even
more stuff out.
Or maybe it's a strongersomething or other, maybe it's
(44:01):
too much plastic, maybe it's too.
You know who knows?
But it's so easy to just runwith these narratives and, yeah,
it's frightening.
It's frightening to me thatit's so easy If I think that
(44:23):
John F Kennedy or Bobby KennedyJr is going to be able to do
anything with the FDA and someof this crazy stuff or the CDC.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
I mean, there's a lot to it so we'll see, but at
least maybe, like I mean, I know, once these guys are in there,
like it's hard to affect changessometimes because there's a lot
of resistance but even justraising awareness or even just
(44:52):
starting to break the narrative,just saying the having somebody
up there instead of just beinglike the you know, fauci, or
whatever, just perpetuating thesame old narrative that there's
viruses and you need vaccinesand you know we got to be afraid
of all these things If thenarrative can start to crack
(45:14):
even a little bit, I thinkthat'll help.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yeah, dr Jean Dodds had said back in 2015, when,
when they had this big, you know, supposed canine influenza.
Here was her statement.
She said in regards toinfluenza, you probably should
allow nature to run its course.
Since the symptoms aregenerally mild and the fatality
(45:37):
rate is extremely low.
Your pet will be more thanlikely fine and develop natural
immunity that will keep, willhelp protect against further
adaptations to any similar virus.
Um, so she was saying it's abad trade-off.
It's a bad trade-off, um, whenyou look at what are the risks
(46:00):
and the side effects ofvaccinations versus just letting
your dog deal with it, if, infact, it is that 2% that has to
deal with it.
So, and I, I, I think that shewould probably say the same
thing today.
I don't know, but this issomething that we do need to
think about.
(46:20):
But again, what can you guys do?
I think that you should becontacting, you know, your
representatives and and talkingto them about how do you help
protect the raw dog foodindustry?
Right, you want to be able toprotect the industry because you
(46:41):
need to protect your dogs anddon't get caught up in the
narrative, but I think thatthere are things that people can
do, dr Jasek, they need tospeak out and say where is the
actual proof.
And I would be very concernedthat if all raw companies are
(47:03):
taken down and all you are leftwith is kibble, how healthy is
your pet going to be?
Speaker 2 (47:10):
It's going to be, that's going to be.
That would be awful.
That'd be devastating for forpets for sure.
But then a lot of people willjust say, see, I knew it wasn't
healthy.
That's what.
That's what people think, likeyou know.
Thank God the news finally gotout instead of, like you said,
standing your ground.
You know the people that haveseen the transformation in their
(47:32):
pets.
I'm gonna hear that all thetime.
You know I started on that rawfood and holy smokes.
You know I like a whole new dog.
They look great and they'velost weight and their coat's
great and they got great andthey and they actually enjoy
eating.
That's one thing I hear overand over again.
Like people, I actually talkedto a client last week and he
said I can't remember exactlywhat he's feeding before robin.
(47:52):
He said I used to.
I had to hand feed my dog.
I could not get my dog to eatbecause I just hand feed it and
and that was the only way Icould get it to eat and he says
now I put that wrong the dishand it just gobbles it up like
how, because he's eaten whatit's, you know what it's what
it's meant to eat.
So for those of you that haveseen that transformation in your
pet, you know, speak out aboutit.
(48:15):
You know you kind of have tostep outside your comfort zone
and ask the questions Is thereany real proof of this?
Because, look, I see theevidence in my own dog that my
dog just is so much healthier onit.
Yeah, if you really want tokeep this industry going, you're
gonna have to, you know, speakout against this narrative.
(48:35):
And it's, yeah, it'suncomfortable because it's a
little easier to go with theflow sometimes, but you know you
have to be an advocate for yourpet right?
Speaker 1 (48:43):
well, we are an advocate for your pet here at
raw dog food and company, and drjacek is as well.
So if you have any questionsabout raw feeding, vaccinations,
uh, any other kind of medicalprotocols that you're just kind
of questioning, I would get overto a h a vetcom, a h a vetcom,
(49:04):
and her will help you.
I think a second opinion forsomebody who is outside of the
narrative, outside of themainstream, is always good to
have.
Right, you need options and, um, we have a big history, that
that uh of animals, uh, uh, abig body of evidence that you
(49:26):
guys don't have.
You just are looking at your,your one animal.
So sometimes it gets a littledaunting.
So get over to ahavetcom.
They'll help you understandwhat we've seen, um, in this new
paradigm of health.
Right, that's not kibble, okay?
So get over torawdogfoodandcompanycom.
Remember, brian can help you.
All you gotta do is sign up fora free 20-minute consult.
(49:48):
We also have a chat.
You pop into the chat.
It's not 24 7, but you will getan answer.
You can text us on our mainline.
Every wednesday we have ouryappy hour.
So get over to our sell pagefrom 6 pm to midnight every
wednesday, where we're going tohave lots of great things.
It's food, treats, treats,supplements and bones.
We've got it all right therefor you at
(50:08):
rawdogfoodandcompanycom, whereyour pet's health is our
business, and what Dr Jacek.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Your friends don't let friends feed, kibble y'all.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
That's right, we'll see you soon, everybody, bye-bye
, bye.
Find out how you can start yourdog on the road to health and
longevity go torawdogfoodandcompanycom, where
friends don't let friends feedkibble, and where your pet's
health is our business.
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