February 26, 2025 • 36 mins
Unravel the truths behind dog nutrition with this engaging episode that cuts through the noise surrounding what's best for our pets. Have you ever wondered why your dog seems overweight or why they develop lumps? DeDe Murcer-Moffett and Dr. Judy Jasek, an experienced veterinarian, team up to shine a light on the critical connection between diet and your dog's overall health. They dissect the prominent issues with kibble and discuss the myriad benefits of switching to a raw diet, including improved health outcomes, weight management, and disease prevention.
Throughout the episode, listeners will gain a clearer understanding of how processed diets, laden with unhealthy ingredients, can lead to metabolic issues and make our pets more susceptible to conditions like lipomas and organ dysfunction. They confront common myths, provide actionable insights on transitioning to a raw diet, and discuss what to expect during the detoxification phase. This lively discussion is laced with humor, invaluable expert knowledge, and personal anecdotes, providing a relatable and educational experience for all dog owners.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh snap.
Well, hello World Feeders.
I'm Dede Mercer-Muffin, ceo ofa raw dog feeding company where
your pet's health is ourbusiness and we're friends, like
my friend Dr Judy Jasik out inTennessee.
Well, she doesn't let friendsfeed kibble.
Now do you, dr Jasik?
No way, no way, jose.
But you know what I have totell you this I get, we get so
(00:23):
many folks that come over andthey want to know why their
dog's fat, right, they want todiet.
They're like why is my dog fatand why do they have these
lymphomas, right, lymphomas?
And yet you, we have a sectionthat says what are you feeding?
Just doing, some milk bones,and we're just doing.
You know, know, a lot of peoplestill are feeding kibble and
(00:46):
I'm like I don't know why that'snot dawning on them.
It's like those things cakes,cookies and chemicals are
directly affecting your dog'sfatness and also those fatty
lymphomas.
They're just not making,they're just not, they're just
not making sense, not makingsense.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Right, right, because that sugar.
I mean basically they're allprocessed carbs, which basically
is sugar, like you said, cakesand cookies and sugar spikes,
insulin.
Because the insulin goes up,because the body needs to do
something with all this sugarand so the insulin helps drive
it into the cells.
But insulin is also fat storagehormone.
(01:29):
So when the insulin goes up andwhen the insulin is up high,
like for for a long time, likeyou're always eating sugary
things it's true in pets and inpeople the insulin stays up.
That's, the body is beingsignaled that we got way more
stuff than we need.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
What are we going to?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
do.
Oh, I know, we'll store it asfat.
That's why when pets are on alike meat diet, meat-based diet,
they um, they maintain thatlean body mass so much better
because you're not getting thoseinsulin spikes, the blood
sugars staying lower and morestable.
So there's a real sound, youknow, metabolic reason for that.
(02:10):
I've seen so many pets throughthose lipomas, those fatty lumps
.
Again a raw diet, and thelittle lumps go away because
they don't they get rid of thatfat.
And I think those lipomas a lotof times are storing toxins in
the fat from the food and theydon't need that anymore.
So they just, they just get ridof it.
I call it the kibble fluff.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, you definitely could see that.
Now.
Many people get worried, drJacek, because they find these
lumps on their dogs and they'reworried that they're cancerous.
But movability right Whetheryou can move them or not is is
really a big factor, whetherit's a benign fatty tumor or
(02:51):
something worse, correct?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
yeah, I think so I mean, that's you know, nothing's
a hundred percent.
But I, you know, I'm not one todo a knee jerk and just start
sticking needles into things.
But I can tell you fromactually earlier in my career,
having removed a lot of lipomasbecause I used to do that.
Lump shows up.
You want to take it off.
And the true fatty tumors, yes,they're very mobile, they're
(03:18):
usually just underneath the skinand they don't have any deep
attachment.
And the more cancer patients Istarted working with, they're
really aggressive, like sarcomas, the high, high grade
malignancies that are on theperiphery of the body.
Yeah, they got these deepattachments because they're
bringing in the body's bloodsupply and they like literally
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grow down into the tissue sothey're very firmly attached.
Now they can be like skin lumpslike your, like mast cell
tumors are actually in the skinso they move with the skin but,
like pulmons, are justunderneath the surface of the
skin.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
So I was.
I was looking at this articleand it was talking about you
know what causes these fattytumors in dogs?
Because I would tell you, drJacek, raw fed dogs that don't
have toxins put in their systemvery seldom you're going to see
a bunch of fatty tumors on dogs.
So when we get theseconsultations and people say my
(04:18):
dog's overweight and they havefatty tumors, I'm like, yeah,
they tend to go hand in hand.
Right Now, not that raw feddogs can't be overweight.
People love their dogs, theylove to see them eat, they love
to give them things, and so rawfed dogs can also be overweight.
But I'm telling you, if youkeep your dog slim, you're going
(04:39):
to help them and you're goingto help your pocketbook.
Okay, you don't have to feedthem so much that they are
overweight.
But in the simplistic of terms,lymphomas are a sign of body
congestion.
Okay, that's what this articlewas talking about.
It was saying that the energyisn't flowing well in the body.
(05:00):
It becomes trapped, so toxinsand fat get trapped and walled
off by the body's immune system.
Um, and so the other thing thatI want people to understand is
and it pointed it out in thisarticle it said fat in the food,
like raw animal fat, is not acontributing factor to fatty
(05:20):
tumors.
Okay, so we.
But it is the, the things, thetoxins, okay.
So what toxins contribute tolymphomas?
Lipomas, um, vaccines,glyphosates, pesticides,
herbicides, uh, chlorine in inyour water, fluoride in your
water, heavy metals,pharmaceuticals, flea and tick,
(05:43):
there it is.
And even grooming products thathave a lot of chemicals in the
shampoos.
But then it goes on to say thediet, kibble diets, guys, kibble
diets, and those bone, those,those, whatever those treats are
they you give the dogs?
Those are also toxins, right?
(06:05):
So the dog's liver, gallbladder, all that kind of stuff that
has to react.
It means it has to eitherrelease the enzymes that break
down these nutrients or theyassume the body is under attack
and it triggers an immuneresponse.
So if your dog has a lot oflipomas, let's take an inventory
(06:29):
of what might be causing that.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Right.
Right, and I think it's alsoimportant for people to be aware
.
You do change the diet, lipomasgo away and if those lipomas
are walling off toxins, you havea big.
You can have a toxin release.
Thus you could see some itchyskin or some diarrhea, because
the body now has to get rid ofthose toxins.
(06:52):
They had them all enveloped inthese little packages.
Now those toxins are free andbecause with better nutritional
support, the body's naturalability to detoxify is healthier
.
So the body wants to get rid ofthose toxins.
So what does it do?
It might.
The skin is actually the largestorgan in the body, is the
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largest surface area.
So we will get skin rashesbecause the body's trying to
push them out through the skin.
It might get diarrhea becausethey're trying to poop them out.
Maybe they vomit a couple times.
They're trying to puke them out.
They might be drinking morewater and peeing them out, might
be urinating more.
All those things should betemporary, but I so often see
(07:37):
this knee jerk.
Well, I changed to the raw andnow my dog has diarrhea.
So the raw is giving my dogdiarrhea.
But we really need to allow thebody to get all these toxins
out, because if you go back tokibble, the body just starts
walling them off again and thensome point on down the road
you've got like a more seriouscancer, autoimmune disease or
(07:59):
something like that, showing up.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Isn't that crazy that showing up isn't that crazy.
So that's one thing that Ithink that we, um, here at raw
dog food and company need topromote, or or promote awareness
around more is the detox effect.
Yeah, right, because I say thateven if you are on a raw diet,
okay, but you go in and get allof the preventatives, right, you
(08:23):
get all the vaccines, you getall the preventatives, right,
you get all the vaccines, youget all the preventatives, and
then you come back and now youstart, you know, getting loose
stools, as you say, or somevomiting.
What do people do, dr Jasek?
They're like, oh, it's the food, it's a bad batch, it's the
bird flu, you know.
And you're like, okay, come on,let me help you snap out of it.
(08:46):
Right, that that is not what itis.
Could it be that all the toxinsthat you just put in the body?
Well, no, because they've donethis forever and they have never
done this before.
Okay, so what you're saying isthat they, they've tolerated
toxins well before.
See, if you change the language, it doesn't.
You know, people are like what?
(09:09):
Yeah, yeah, your dogs toleratedall of the toxins before.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Well, it's just, I think it's this food yeah, they
were just the toxins were stuckin the body and the body wasn't
healthy enough to get rid ofthem.
So yeah we've been working onyou know, karen and I have been
talking about this Karen's ournutritionist on how to present
this to people in a differentlight, like it's not, like it's
(09:37):
just the food change it's.
We're having this toxin releaseand I mean the body is having
to learn how to digest somethingdifferently.
So that's a shift.
And if the gut's been hammeredwith lots of antibiotics and
other medications, it can beharder.
The body isn't as resilient.
But you just, you just have toride it out.
(10:00):
That knee jerk, that food, thefood's bad.
Whatever protein they start onmust be the beef, must be the
chicken.
It's like we have to look at itfrom a different perspective of
no, this is a good thing thatthe body is getting rid of these
toxins and if the pet is stilleating and still active, good
(10:23):
energy, they're staying hydrated, it's okay.
Just let the body do its thing.
You know, the body knows how toheal and the body knows how to
stay healthy.
And there's just this knee jerkinto.
Nobody wants to see any ofthese symptoms in your pet and I
get it.
Diarrhea can be inconvenient,especially if they're pooping in
(10:44):
the house, but if they'reacting okay, just give it a few
days.
If it's truly this detox, itisn't going to last that long.
Just give it a little bit oftime and you can do a little bit
of support.
Some extra bone broth, slipperyyams a great herb just helps
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kind of soothe the gut.
You know you got somesupplements stevia in your sight
from adored beasts that canhelp soothe the gut, you know.
So just do those things andjust ride it out.
But like the worst thing youcan do is run into the vet and
what are they going to do?
They're going to put the pet onprobably metronidazole, which
(11:25):
is an antibiotic, and thenyou're just going to be making
the situation worse.
You know, sometimes they getbetter in the short term, but in
the long term you're justsuppressing this process and
you've just got to let theprocess ride out and then the
pet's going to be much, muchhealthier in the long run yeah,
(11:48):
yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
some of the healing herbs that you probably like, um
, are milk, thistle anddandelion, right, um.
But but you guys, you have tobe careful with some of these,
and I would always work withsomeone like dr jacek and their,
their crew over there to helpyou understand how much you want
to give and how you want topulse those in and out, because
(12:11):
you don't want to do themforever.
Right, many, many instructionsor holistic people will say you
know, you want to give them forsix days and then a day off and
then repeat so many weeks, right, for certain herbs.
Also, apple cider vinegar, theysay, can be really powerful in
the prevention of treatment oflymphomas.
(12:34):
But remember this you can't feedkibble and then give apple
cider vinegar, okay, this doesnot work, right, but we're not
talking about a ton of applecider vinegar, right?
So for our little guys, 15pounds or less, we're talking
about one teaspoon daily, okay.
And now if you've got a dog,that's 80 pounds, we're only
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talking about two tablespoonsdaily, okay, so we're not
talking about a ton, a ton ofapple cider vinegar either.
Um, I can't stand the smell ofapple cider vinegar, it just, I
just can't, I just.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
but you know I will do that my husband drinks it and
I'm like I can't even standlike smelling it like in his
glass.
It's just like it's.
And it's funny because I usedto drink it some because it's
just, you know, supposed to begood for you and all that stuff,
but now it's just like I get it.
I find also that apple cidervinegar is good for like
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stimulating natural digestion,because I think a lot of the
dogs that have been on kibble along time they're not making the
appropriate stomach acid.
I think you know we want thatgood acid production in the
stomach and so these dogs that10 people will say they've got
reflux, that little herpy theythrow up in their mouth, you
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know that kind of thing.
Apple cider vinegar or a littlebit of ginger tea helps
stimulate that natural digestion, because you know one of the
knee jerks is, if dogs are doingthis like reflux thing, oh, put
them on Pepsod or an antacid.
I think the problem is theydon't have enough acid and then
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the stuff's food sitting intheir stomach and it just kind
of like putrefies and there'snot getting broken down properly
, especially if it's kibble.
And then the other problem youcan have is motility the stomach
is not contracting and emptyingthe dog's digestive tract
should be pretty rapid transit.
It should go in there in thestomach and the acid breaks it
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down and the stomach kicks itinto the small intestine.
It should happen pretty quick,certainly within a couple of
hours.
But if that's not happening,these simple things like the
apple cider vinegar and the andthe ginger tea can, I think,
help stimulate that process andyou can try one or the other.
You know pet stores aredifferently but that might be
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part of why it helps with thelipomas to we're in anytime.
We're improving digestion.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
We're going to improve the health of the body
overall anytime we're improvingdigestion, we're going to
improve the health of the bodyoverall.
Yeah, and the other thing Iwant to touch on today is when
there's an intestinal blockagein dogs.
Right, Because I hear thissometimes.
I'm like you know, you and I,as long as we've been doing raw
bones are the thing that peoplefear.
Right, they fear intestinalblockages in dogs, and yet what
(15:30):
we see you know what I hear fromAmanda, our daughter, and
probably what you saw in yourpractice was dogs are more
likely going to get a foreignbody obstruction, like balls,
toys, clothing balls, toys,clothing strings, you know,
(15:55):
non-food items that can't bedigested, right, and these are
what cause these intestinalblockage.
But if your dog has some typeof a blockage, dr Jasek, that
they can't get out, what wouldthey see?
What are the signs of anintestinal blockage?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Those dogs are super sick.
They will be vomiting, but it'slike multiple times an hour.
It's almost like incessantvomiting, like they're vomiting
every 1520 minutes Because thebody, I think, senses this and
they're very, very painful.
These dogs are standing likethey don't even want to move.
(16:30):
They hurt so bad.
Now, depending on where theblockage is, they could look
bloated, you know, because youcan get gas and stuff build up.
You know, ahead of the blockage, because it can't pass through
but you don't always but theywill be painful.
These are excruciatinglypainful.
So when the dogs are standingjust like arched back, really
painful, don't want to move, andyou go to touch their belly and
(16:52):
they're just like tense up,those are signs that they're
extreme signs Like you knowthere's something wrong.
If, if there's a blockage, it'sa certain and that's a, you
know, if it's a true blockage,it's a surgical emergency you
got to get in and get it out,you know or your pet isn't going
to survive.
The intestines can open up andstart to leak.
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That's like a next step.
If the blockage causes adecrease in circulation to the
gut, then part of the gut dies,opens up and leaks, and then you
get a peritonitis and that'seven more painful.
So, these dogs are really sick,like occasional vomiting, and
especially if the dog's eatingdog with a blockage.
Blockage will not be eating,they won't be taking in anything
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poorly, um.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
So if dog's still eating or drinking, maybe
vomiting a little bit, they theydon't have a blockage the um,
some of the things that cancause intestinal blockage, guys,
is not's, not just a foreignobject, but there could be a
tumor.
Okay, it could be a tumorgrowing large enough to block
that area and also adhesions orscar tissue from prior surgeries
(18:02):
.
And so you know people go inand they do all these different
types of surgeries.
You know people go in and theydo all these different type of
surgeries.
You know even spay and neuteror something like that, I guess,
could cause that.
Do you think that a spay, a badspay or a bad neuter could
cause something like that, or isit not in the right area?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Well, spay certainly could, if you know.
Um, you know, I mean spays arepretty routine, so any kind of
decent surgeon should be able toget in and out of there pretty
quick.
You remove the uterus, removethe ovaries, so the scar tissue
should not be an issue, but thebut the uterus where you remove
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the uterus is, you know, rightnext to the colon.
So say you're in there and youknow, cut the cult or cut the
uterus off.
Colon.
So say you're in there and youknow, cut the cult or cut the
uterus off.
You tie it off, cut it off andyou accidentally like nick the
colon or something caught thecolon and your suture, or you
know stuff like that can happen.
It shouldn't happen if thesurgeon is careful but it's, you
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know, certainly a possibility.
And with neutering I meanbecause the testicles on the
outside of the abdomen, ifthey're normally descended into
the scrotum, then that shouldn'tcause any intestinal issues.
However, if you have a retainedtesticle where they didn't
descend into the scrotumnormally and go into the abdomen
to get them, then that couldalso cause some scarring because
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, especially because they can behard to find, you know, done
those surgeries, you have to goin there and look for them and
they're usually a lot smaller sothey're not so easy to find.
So you know that certainlycould cause some scarring.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, you know the chi, your dog's chi, right, the
blood flow, the energy flow.
Again, I still contend thatchiropractic for dogs and also
acupuncture for dogs is nothingbut good nothing but good you
know.
So get them on a raw diet.
You know I know that peoplemean well, and maybe they just
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don't know, but I was talking toa sweet girl last night and she
said, oh, yes, because.
She said what do you?
I said, well, I own a raw dogfood company and she said you
know, I feed, I cook for my dogand, uh, I put rice and then I
put oatmeal and I put cannedtuna and a raw egg, and what do
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you think about that?
I said, well, I get rid ofeverything except the raw eggs.
She was like, oh, my goshreally, and I said, and I
wouldn't cook it.
She's like, why?
Because raw these are.
You know, it's just so funny, um, as some of the recipes that
people come up with that have solittle value, so little value
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for your dog.
And I said you know, especiallycanned tuna, on a consistent
basis.
Now, you know, every now andthen.
Okay, I don't do it even on theevery now and then, but I just
don't know where these and I Isuspect, dr jasic, that they're
out there floating on theinternet somewhere.
Here's a great recipe for yourdog and it's like it's real
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simple Meat, bones, organ andfat.
Don't cook it.
Farmer's dog has screwed thisup for so many people.
Oh, totally.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Because they advertise as a natural, healthy
diet and they're not.
They're high in carbs andpeople just I don't know why
it's like people feel like theirpets have to have rice like
rice or oats like riceespecially.
It's like this magic ingredientin every recipe Got to put some
rice in, or some brown rice orsome oatmeal.
(21:40):
Dogs don't need any of thatstuff and it's not good for them
.
They don't need any of thosestarches.
People don't understand.
We see something I would sayit's extremely rare, almost
unheard of, to find somebodythat's home preparing a meal for
their dog.
That is doing it what I wouldcall balanced and doing it
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appropriately, and a big part ofthat is the organ and bone.
Like they can go buy raw meatbut then they try to quote
unquote balance it with producewhich dogs don't digest very
well and then they put in thesecarbs and it's not.
It's not a healthy diet.
Now, they might do better onthat than kibble, because pretty
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much anything's better thankibble.
At least it's whole food.
But it's not a balanced diet.
But to get the organs, you know,like what we recommend.
You want this blend of organs,so you go to the store.
You probably find some liver,maybe some heart, but you're not
going to find kidney or spleenor lung or any of these other
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organs that are in your rawblends or in your.
You know your organ only blend,so how are you getting that
part in?
You don't?
We don't want to be putting asynthetic is the other thing.
You see, you know, I'll justthrow in this nice multivitamin
with 60 ingredients in itbecause it's got all the
nutrients that you know my dogneeds.
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Well, those are all synthetics.
If it reads like a bunch ofchemicals, it's a bunch of
chemicals and you have no ideahow bioavailable that is.
So to get this organ and bonecontent right in the diet, it's,
I mean, unless you are likebutchering your own animals, I,
I mean, I've worked with a fewpeople over the years that get
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it and they have the resources.
They live on a cattle ranch orthey have a family that hunts
regularly.
They, they got all the organsand meat and everything in their
freezer so they can do it, butthat's extremely rare.
So I we we really typicallystirp steer people away from any
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kind of home preparationbecause it's so hard to do it
really, really well and balancethe diet whole food, because if
you're not adding supplements.
You've got to be reallyparticular with the balance, and
probably the main thing I seeleft out the most is the bone.
With the balance, and probablythe main thing I see left out
the most is the bone.
I see a doctor people have beencooking for them and there's no
mineral being added at all.
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And that's certainly not.
I mean, not only is the dietnot usually not balanced, but
then they're getting none ofthat natural, natural mineral in
the diet which is, you know,obviously super important.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
So we have chicken hearts Now have, uh, chicken
hearts now we have chickenhearts and we have chicken organ
.
But what do you think'sfrightening the people now?
It's the bird flu and the avma.
Dr jasic that you sent me thearticle.
They're really pushing no rawdiets.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Right, they've always pushed no raw.
Now they have another reason tomake people more afraid of the
raw and another talking pointfor the vets to make people
afraid of feeding raw.
Well, it's the bird flu.
So you know better not feed itbecause Because you know who has
, you know, you see all thesebirds out there all the time
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dropping from the sky, becauseit's supposedly, it's supposedly
spread by, you know, wild birds, you know waterfowl in
particular is what they'resaying and that is just blown
around out there.
So if we're in danger of, youknow, killing chickens and
making us sick, why aren't thesebirds dying from it?
(25:33):
I listen to a Joel Saltonpodcast every week and he's like
you know, we got like 20 pondson our property and there's
geese and ducks, you know all ofthe all of the water birds and
he said I have yet to find adead one.
He said I know they die, but ifthis virus was rampant,
(25:54):
wouldn't you expect them?
Just, you know, just seeing awhole bunch of dead ones.
If this is what's killing thechickens, and you know the other
thing is they're noteliminating sick chickens.
These chickens are not sick, nosymptoms, they're just testing
them.
So it's another case of anepidemic of a positive test, and
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we know these PCR tests arebogus.
I asymptomatic chickens arethey asymptomatic?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
asymptomatic spreaders, except they get
killed.
Did you see how many millions?
It was like 66 million.
It was ungodly.
And I saw this great meme wherethey go into fort knox, they
open up to see where the gold isand what do they find?
Eggs, eggs from all the stores.
They've confiscated all theeggs.
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They put them there.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That's funny.
Well, you know, the otherproblem with this DeeDee is they
don't have enough room in thesehouses to keep the chickens six
feet apart, so I guess theiroption is to kill them.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Because if they could keep, them six feet apart.
They'd be good, and the masksand the little bitty tiny mask.
Who's making those little bittytiny masks?
But you know they have the clawsso they can just yank those
masks right off oh yeah, theywouldn't tolerate that and then
they just poke through Gosh,gosh, you know?
I mean, come on, it's not thatwe don't have a heart for sick
(27:19):
animals we do.
But what we have a heart for isthe truth, so that we can make
animals well.
And I'm not a fan of killingoff all these birds, all these
chickens, for no reason.
For no reason.
That just sounds veryapocalyptic.
(27:40):
I mean, think about it.
If it jumps over to human,we're just going to start
killing people that we think aregoing to.
You know, look, you rememberthis in COVID?
Remember how people were?
They hated you, you were theenemy, and I contend that those
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people would have been fine withyou being killed, because they
thought if you didn't get a shotand didn't wear a mask, you
were a threat to their survival.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
So you need to die Right and people said that, like
people that don't get the shots, they're a threat.
They should die.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That's frightening.
So you know, it's just one stepaway when we are allowing all
of these birds to be killed, fortwo cats that we don't even
know actually died from the birdflu.
And yet, dr Jasik, we have howmany people dying of fentanyl?
(28:41):
We have how many people youknow the whole um autism thing
is coming up right now one in 36, one in 36, uh, and they, they
look at it, um, male childrenare going to have autism and and
as as as the president said, wehave a problem.
(29:02):
Something is terribly wrong,right?
So you know, we have to reallylook at where there is truth in
these numbers.
I don't think that two catsthat we can't even truly, if you
look at some of the reports,they're going to say, well, it
had the sequence oh God, where'dwe hear the sequence, you know,
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in the cats that matches theh1n1, all that kind of jazz.
Two, and now we're going tokill all these millions of birds
.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Come on, come on, come on right, it's like you
know, I mean this when you thinkabout how dark this could get.
They're like normalizing massextinction.
They're starting with chickensbecause people, you know,
chickens aren't so warm andfuzzy.
I have chickens and I like them, but they're not like cuddly
really, and they're veryinteresting and they're very
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interesting personalities andall this.
But you know, you're a bitremoved from the chickens.
They're not a mammal.
You know all that.
Now they're already talkingabout it jumping to cows, right,
so then are they going to start?
Well, we got to starteliminating these cow herds
because it's spreading to them.
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And then people get used tohearing about that oh, looks
like it's spreading to the pets.
You know, what are we going todo?
Better, start euthanizing pets.
And then what?
Oh, people got it, starteliminating them.
I mean, it's like a the boilingfrog thing, right, you just
people get used to a narrativeand start normalizing.
Well, this is what you do tostay healthy.
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And they just keep eliminatingone species to the next, when it
doesn't make any sense at all.
Nothing has been proven aboutthis.
They say there's a positivetest.
You know, if there was millionsof chickens getting actually
sick, that would be different.
But they're not.
They're not.
They're just coming up with apositive test and one positive
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test and a whole flock which inthese big, you know, production
facilities could, could bemillions of birds in just one
facility.
It's, it's really sick and yetpeople just latch on to the fear
.
Just latch on to the fear andbelieve the, the propaganda stop
it, stop it, stop it, stop it,stop it.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Bob Newhart.
Bob Newhart, he's like you know, how can we?
She's like, how do you fix me,doc?
And he's like you know, becauseshe's thinking these terrible
thoughts on that thing.
Or she's worried and he's likestop it, stop it, stop it, stop
it, stop it, stop it.
That way, All right, everybody.
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Thanks so much for listeningtoday.
Remember, tell your friendsabout the Raw Dog Food Truth
Podcast.
It's a great way to geteducated, helping your dog live
longer lives, and that is to one, put your fear aside and really
understand what this thing isin front of you.
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It is a carnivore.
It doesn't cook its food, itdoesn't eat grains, you know,
and it eats things that we wouldnever eat, like vomit and poop.
And I say that to people andthey're like, yeah, but it's
gross and they shouldn't.
Well, okay, but they do andthey're fine.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
They don't think it's gross.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, they don't have that story in their head.
They're like right.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Right, I mean, why let the food go to waste?
Oh look, I vomited up that bone.
I spent all that time chewingon it.
I'm going to give it another go.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I cannot, I cannot.
So we're out here in Arizona.
We have three ponds right here,boom, boom, boom, ducks, geese
everywhere.
I cannot keep Lazi from eatingthe poop, right, she's like I'm
going to go out there and get asmuch of that poop in me as I
can, right.
And so I have to give her hertoy so that she will focus on
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that, not the poop.
But she's a little sneaky, youknow, and she'll be there and
she's not sick, she's just fine.
So, um, not that I want her toeat the poop, but I'm also not
going to freak out that she'seating the poop.
It's like an actual probiotic,it's like whatever.
Whatever you know it, it iswhat it is.
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They are carnivores.
So we need to respect theirbeing, and that means respect
and adhere to what they need toeat to be the healthiest.
All right, if your dog'soverweight, got lapomas, um,
let's get all the toxins out oftheir system.
I know I hear you saying rightnow, but I have to do you, but I
(33:44):
have to do you.
Really, come on now, there's nothere's no, there's no have tos,
right, right, because there's alot of people that aren't.
So that's just that's.
You know what I'm talking about.
So get the toxins out of theirsystem, feed them what they're
supposed to.
Get over to AHA vetcom, that'sDr J 16, aha vetcom dot com,
that's Dr Jasek's team.
Ahavetcom.
If you have a diagnosis, if youhave a protocol, if you have
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something coming up that you'renot sure that that's the way you
want to go with your dog, maybeyou want to go a different way,
you want to be holistic.
You want a second, thirdopinion?
Get over to AHAVetcom.
Dr Jasek can work with youtoday.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Oh, maybe not today, she's quite busy but you can get
a list pretty soon, pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yeah, there you go uh , if you want some help, uh, get
over to rawdogfoodandcompanycom.
Sign up for our free 20-minuteconsultation.
That usually goes about 45minutes, because you know that's
what brian does.
He's very good.
Um and uh, we ship all over.
Where do we ship?
We ship all all over the unitedstates, including alaska and
hawaii, but I will say it'squite expensive to go there.
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Okay, it's very expensiveshipping is expensive.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Shipping's expensive and it's not like you're.
You're inventing those pricesLike the companies that ship are
raising those prices Likeastronomically.
We ship stuff out too and it'sgetting expensive and
unfortunately they're gettingless and less reliable too.
But yeah, it's expensive toship the world is going to
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change.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Dr Jasek, I'm waiting .
We're doing some good things inthe world right now.
I think the pricing is going tochange eventually.
I hope there's going to be somerelief out there and so I'm
very hopeful about the future.
Um, I I, I wouldn't worry aboutthis bird flu guys.
Uh, seriously, if, if you gooutside and you start seeing
flocks of bird fall from the sky, then we'll talk about it.
(35:44):
Then we'll maybe, you know,look at what chemtrails are
being sprayed in their way.
But I've, right now it's likecome on.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
No big deal.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
There's no big deal, absolutely All right, everybody,
get over to raw dog food andcompanycom.
Well, your pet's health is ourbusiness.
And what, dr Jasek?
Our friends don't let friendsfeed kibble, y'all.
That's right, we'll see yousoon, everybody, bye-bye, bye.
Find out how you can start yourdog on the road to health and
longevity.
Go to rawdogfoodandcompanycom,where friends don't let friends
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feed kibble and where your pet'shealth is our business.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Just snap.
Oh snap.
Well, hello World Feeders.
I'm Dede Mercer-Muffin, ceo ofa raw dog feeding company where
your pet's health is ourbusiness and we're friends, like
my friend Dr Judy Jasik out inTennessee.
Well, she doesn't let friendsfeed kibble.
Now do you, dr Jasik?
No way, no way, jose.
But you know what I have totell you this I get, we get so
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many folks that come over andthey want to know why their
dog's fat, right, they want todiet.
They're like why is my dog fatand why do they have these
lymphomas, right, lymphomas?
And yet you, we have a sectionthat says what are you feeding?
Just doing, some milk bones,and we're just doing.
You know, know, a lot of peoplestill are feeding kibble and
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I'm like I don't know why that'snot dawning on them.
It's like those things cakes,cookies and chemicals are
directly affecting your dog'sfatness and also those fatty
lymphomas.
They're just not making,they're just not, they're just
not making sense, not makingsense.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Right, right, because that sugar.
I mean basically they're allprocessed carbs, which basically
is sugar, like you said, cakesand cookies and sugar spikes,
insulin.
Because the insulin goes up,because the body needs to do
something with all this sugarand so the insulin helps drive
it into the cells.
But insulin is also fat storagehormone.
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So when the insulin goes up andwhen the insulin is up high,
like for for a long time, likeyou're always eating sugary
things it's true in pets and inpeople the insulin stays up.
That's, the body is beingsignaled that we got way more
stuff than we need.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
What are we going to?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
do.
Oh, I know, we'll store it asfat.
That's why when pets are on alike meat diet, meat-based diet,
they um, they maintain thatlean body mass so much better
because you're not getting thoseinsulin spikes, the blood
sugars staying lower and morestable.
So there's a real sound, youknow, metabolic reason for that.
(02:10):
I've seen so many pets throughthose lipomas, those fatty lumps
.
Again a raw diet, and thelittle lumps go away because
they don't they get rid of thatfat.
And I think those lipomas a lotof times are storing toxins in
the fat from the food and theydon't need that anymore.
So they just, they just get ridof it.
I call it the kibble fluff.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, you definitely could see that.
Now.
Many people get worried, drJacek, because they find these
lumps on their dogs and they'reworried that they're cancerous.
But movability right Whetheryou can move them or not is is
really a big factor, whetherit's a benign fatty tumor or
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something worse, correct?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
yeah, I think so I mean, that's you know, nothing's
a hundred percent.
But I, you know, I'm not one todo a knee jerk and just start
sticking needles into things.
But I can tell you fromactually earlier in my career,
having removed a lot of lipomasbecause I used to do that.
Lump shows up.
You want to take it off.
And the true fatty tumors, yes,they're very mobile, they're
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usually just underneath the skinand they don't have any deep
attachment.
And the more cancer patients Istarted working with, they're
really aggressive, like sarcomas, the high, high grade
malignancies that are on theperiphery of the body.
Yeah, they got these deepattachments because they're
bringing in the body's bloodsupply and they like literally
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grow down into the tissue sothey're very firmly attached.
Now they can be like skin lumpslike your, like mast cell
tumors are actually in the skinso they move with the skin but,
like pulmons, are justunderneath the surface of the
skin.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
So I was.
I was looking at this articleand it was talking about you
know what causes these fattytumors in dogs?
Because I would tell you, drJacek, raw fed dogs that don't
have toxins put in their systemvery seldom you're going to see
a bunch of fatty tumors on dogs.
So when we get theseconsultations and people say my
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dog's overweight and they havefatty tumors, I'm like, yeah,
they tend to go hand in hand.
Right Now, not that raw feddogs can't be overweight.
People love their dogs, theylove to see them eat, they love
to give them things, and so rawfed dogs can also be overweight.
But I'm telling you, if youkeep your dog slim, you're going
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to help them and you're goingto help your pocketbook.
Okay, you don't have to feedthem so much that they are
overweight.
But in the simplistic of terms,lymphomas are a sign of body
congestion.
Okay, that's what this articlewas talking about.
It was saying that the energyisn't flowing well in the body.
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It becomes trapped, so toxinsand fat get trapped and walled
off by the body's immune system.
Um, and so the other thing thatI want people to understand is
and it pointed it out in thisarticle it said fat in the food,
like raw animal fat, is not acontributing factor to fatty
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tumors.
Okay, so we.
But it is the, the things, thetoxins, okay.
So what toxins contribute tolymphomas?
Lipomas, um, vaccines,glyphosates, pesticides,
herbicides, uh, chlorine in inyour water, fluoride in your
water, heavy metals,pharmaceuticals, flea and tick,
(05:43):
there it is.
And even grooming products thathave a lot of chemicals in the
shampoos.
But then it goes on to say thediet, kibble diets, guys, kibble
diets, and those bone, those,those, whatever those treats are
they you give the dogs?
Those are also toxins, right?
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So the dog's liver, gallbladder, all that kind of stuff that
has to react.
It means it has to eitherrelease the enzymes that break
down these nutrients or theyassume the body is under attack
and it triggers an immuneresponse.
So if your dog has a lot oflipomas, let's take an inventory
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of what might be causing that.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Right.
Right, and I think it's alsoimportant for people to be aware
.
You do change the diet, lipomasgo away and if those lipomas
are walling off toxins, you havea big.
You can have a toxin release.
Thus you could see some itchyskin or some diarrhea, because
the body now has to get rid ofthose toxins.
(06:52):
They had them all enveloped inthese little packages.
Now those toxins are free andbecause with better nutritional
support, the body's naturalability to detoxify is healthier
.
So the body wants to get rid ofthose toxins.
So what does it do?
It might.
The skin is actually the largestorgan in the body, is the
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largest surface area.
So we will get skin rashesbecause the body's trying to
push them out through the skin.
It might get diarrhea becausethey're trying to poop them out.
Maybe they vomit a couple times.
They're trying to puke them out.
They might be drinking morewater and peeing them out, might
be urinating more.
All those things should betemporary, but I so often see
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this knee jerk.
Well, I changed to the raw andnow my dog has diarrhea.
So the raw is giving my dogdiarrhea.
But we really need to allow thebody to get all these toxins
out, because if you go back tokibble, the body just starts
walling them off again and thensome point on down the road
you've got like a more seriouscancer, autoimmune disease or
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something like that, showing up.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Isn't that crazy that showing up isn't that crazy.
So that's one thing that Ithink that we, um, here at raw
dog food and company need topromote, or or promote awareness
around more is the detox effect.
Yeah, right, because I say thateven if you are on a raw diet,
okay, but you go in and get allof the preventatives, right, you
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get all the vaccines, you getall the preventatives, right,
you get all the vaccines, youget all the preventatives, and
then you come back and now youstart, you know, getting loose
stools, as you say, or somevomiting.
What do people do, dr Jasek?
They're like, oh, it's the food, it's a bad batch, it's the
bird flu, you know.
And you're like, okay, come on,let me help you snap out of it.
(08:46):
Right, that that is not what itis.
Could it be that all the toxinsthat you just put in the body?
Well, no, because they've donethis forever and they have never
done this before.
Okay, so what you're saying isthat they, they've tolerated
toxins well before.
See, if you change the language, it doesn't.
You know, people are like what?
(09:09):
Yeah, yeah, your dogs toleratedall of the toxins before.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Well, it's just, I think it's this food yeah, they
were just the toxins were stuckin the body and the body wasn't
healthy enough to get rid ofthem.
So yeah we've been working onyou know, karen and I have been
talking about this Karen's ournutritionist on how to present
this to people in a differentlight, like it's not, like it's
(09:37):
just the food change it's.
We're having this toxin releaseand I mean the body is having
to learn how to digest somethingdifferently.
So that's a shift.
And if the gut's been hammeredwith lots of antibiotics and
other medications, it can beharder.
The body isn't as resilient.
But you just, you just have toride it out.
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That knee jerk, that food, thefood's bad.
Whatever protein they start onmust be the beef, must be the
chicken.
It's like we have to look at itfrom a different perspective of
no, this is a good thing thatthe body is getting rid of these
toxins and if the pet is stilleating and still active, good
(10:23):
energy, they're staying hydrated, it's okay.
Just let the body do its thing.
You know, the body knows how toheal and the body knows how to
stay healthy.
And there's just this knee jerkinto.
Nobody wants to see any ofthese symptoms in your pet and I
get it.
Diarrhea can be inconvenient,especially if they're pooping in
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the house, but if they'reacting okay, just give it a few
days.
If it's truly this detox, itisn't going to last that long.
Just give it a little bit oftime and you can do a little bit
of support.
Some extra bone broth, slipperyyams a great herb just helps
(11:04):
kind of soothe the gut.
You know you got somesupplements stevia in your sight
from adored beasts that canhelp soothe the gut, you know.
So just do those things andjust ride it out.
But like the worst thing youcan do is run into the vet and
what are they going to do?
They're going to put the pet onprobably metronidazole, which
(11:25):
is an antibiotic, and thenyou're just going to be making
the situation worse.
You know, sometimes they getbetter in the short term, but in
the long term you're justsuppressing this process and
you've just got to let theprocess ride out and then the
pet's going to be much, muchhealthier in the long run yeah,
(11:48):
yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
some of the healing herbs that you probably like, um
, are milk, thistle anddandelion, right, um.
But but you guys, you have tobe careful with some of these,
and I would always work withsomeone like dr jacek and their,
their crew over there to helpyou understand how much you want
to give and how you want topulse those in and out, because
(12:11):
you don't want to do themforever.
Right, many, many instructionsor holistic people will say you
know, you want to give them forsix days and then a day off and
then repeat so many weeks, right, for certain herbs.
Also, apple cider vinegar, theysay, can be really powerful in
the prevention of treatment oflymphomas.
(12:34):
But remember this you can't feedkibble and then give apple
cider vinegar, okay, this doesnot work, right, but we're not
talking about a ton of applecider vinegar, right?
So for our little guys, 15pounds or less, we're talking
about one teaspoon daily, okay.
And now if you've got a dog,that's 80 pounds, we're only
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talking about two tablespoonsdaily, okay, so we're not
talking about a ton, a ton ofapple cider vinegar either.
Um, I can't stand the smell ofapple cider vinegar, it just, I
just can't, I just.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
but you know I will do that my husband drinks it and
I'm like I can't even standlike smelling it like in his
glass.
It's just like it's.
And it's funny because I usedto drink it some because it's
just, you know, supposed to begood for you and all that stuff,
but now it's just like I get it.
I find also that apple cidervinegar is good for like
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stimulating natural digestion,because I think a lot of the
dogs that have been on kibble along time they're not making the
appropriate stomach acid.
I think you know we want thatgood acid production in the
stomach and so these dogs that10 people will say they've got
reflux, that little herpy theythrow up in their mouth, you
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know that kind of thing.
Apple cider vinegar or a littlebit of ginger tea helps
stimulate that natural digestion, because you know one of the
knee jerks is, if dogs are doingthis like reflux thing, oh, put
them on Pepsod or an antacid.
I think the problem is theydon't have enough acid and then
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the stuff's food sitting intheir stomach and it just kind
of like putrefies and there'snot getting broken down properly
, especially if it's kibble.
And then the other problem youcan have is motility the stomach
is not contracting and emptyingthe dog's digestive tract
should be pretty rapid transit.
It should go in there in thestomach and the acid breaks it
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down and the stomach kicks itinto the small intestine.
It should happen pretty quick,certainly within a couple of
hours.
But if that's not happening,these simple things like the
apple cider vinegar and the andthe ginger tea can, I think,
help stimulate that process andyou can try one or the other.
You know pet stores aredifferently but that might be
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part of why it helps with thelipomas to we're in anytime.
We're improving digestion.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
We're going to improve the health of the body
overall anytime we're improvingdigestion, we're going to
improve the health of the bodyoverall.
Yeah, and the other thing Iwant to touch on today is when
there's an intestinal blockagein dogs.
Right, Because I hear thissometimes.
I'm like you know, you and I,as long as we've been doing raw
bones are the thing that peoplefear.
Right, they fear intestinalblockages in dogs, and yet what
(15:30):
we see you know what I hear fromAmanda, our daughter, and
probably what you saw in yourpractice was dogs are more
likely going to get a foreignbody obstruction, like balls,
toys, clothing balls, toys,clothing strings, you know,
(15:55):
non-food items that can't bedigested, right, and these are
what cause these intestinalblockage.
But if your dog has some typeof a blockage, dr Jasek, that
they can't get out, what wouldthey see?
What are the signs of anintestinal blockage?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Those dogs are super sick.
They will be vomiting, but it'slike multiple times an hour.
It's almost like incessantvomiting, like they're vomiting
every 1520 minutes Because thebody, I think, senses this and
they're very, very painful.
These dogs are standing likethey don't even want to move.
(16:30):
They hurt so bad.
Now, depending on where theblockage is, they could look
bloated, you know, because youcan get gas and stuff build up.
You know, ahead of the blockage, because it can't pass through
but you don't always but theywill be painful.
These are excruciatinglypainful.
So when the dogs are standingjust like arched back, really
painful, don't want to move, andyou go to touch their belly and
(16:52):
they're just like tense up,those are signs that they're
extreme signs Like you knowthere's something wrong.
If, if there's a blockage, it'sa certain and that's a, you
know, if it's a true blockage,it's a surgical emergency you
got to get in and get it out,you know or your pet isn't going
to survive.
The intestines can open up andstart to leak.
(17:13):
That's like a next step.
If the blockage causes adecrease in circulation to the
gut, then part of the gut dies,opens up and leaks, and then you
get a peritonitis and that'seven more painful.
So, these dogs are really sick,like occasional vomiting, and
especially if the dog's eatingdog with a blockage.
Blockage will not be eating,they won't be taking in anything
(17:35):
poorly, um.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
So if dog's still eating or drinking, maybe
vomiting a little bit, they theydon't have a blockage the um,
some of the things that cancause intestinal blockage, guys,
is not's, not just a foreignobject, but there could be a
tumor.
Okay, it could be a tumorgrowing large enough to block
that area and also adhesions orscar tissue from prior surgeries
(18:02):
.
And so you know people go inand they do all these different
types of surgeries.
You know people go in and theydo all these different type of
surgeries.
You know even spay and neuteror something like that, I guess,
could cause that.
Do you think that a spay, a badspay or a bad neuter could
cause something like that, or isit not in the right area?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Well, spay certainly could, if you know.
Um, you know, I mean spays arepretty routine, so any kind of
decent surgeon should be able toget in and out of there pretty
quick.
You remove the uterus, removethe ovaries, so the scar tissue
should not be an issue, but thebut the uterus where you remove
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the uterus is, you know, rightnext to the colon.
So say you're in there and youknow, cut the cult or cut the
uterus off.
Colon.
So say you're in there and youknow, cut the cult or cut the
uterus off.
You tie it off, cut it off andyou accidentally like nick the
colon or something caught thecolon and your suture, or you
know stuff like that can happen.
It shouldn't happen if thesurgeon is careful but it's, you
(19:03):
know, certainly a possibility.
And with neutering I meanbecause the testicles on the
outside of the abdomen, ifthey're normally descended into
the scrotum, then that shouldn'tcause any intestinal issues.
However, if you have a retainedtesticle where they didn't
descend into the scrotumnormally and go into the abdomen
to get them, then that couldalso cause some scarring because
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, especially because they can behard to find, you know, done
those surgeries, you have to goin there and look for them and
they're usually a lot smaller sothey're not so easy to find.
So you know that certainlycould cause some scarring.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, you know the chi, your dog's chi, right, the
blood flow, the energy flow.
Again, I still contend thatchiropractic for dogs and also
acupuncture for dogs is nothingbut good nothing but good you
know.
So get them on a raw diet.
You know I know that peoplemean well, and maybe they just
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don't know, but I was talking toa sweet girl last night and she
said, oh, yes, because.
She said what do you?
I said, well, I own a raw dogfood company and she said you
know, I feed, I cook for my dogand, uh, I put rice and then I
put oatmeal and I put cannedtuna and a raw egg, and what do
(20:23):
you think about that?
I said, well, I get rid ofeverything except the raw eggs.
She was like, oh, my goshreally, and I said, and I
wouldn't cook it.
She's like, why?
Because raw these are.
You know, it's just so funny, um, as some of the recipes that
people come up with that have solittle value, so little value
(20:45):
for your dog.
And I said you know, especiallycanned tuna, on a consistent
basis.
Now, you know, every now andthen.
Okay, I don't do it even on theevery now and then, but I just
don't know where these and I Isuspect, dr jasic, that they're
out there floating on theinternet somewhere.
Here's a great recipe for yourdog and it's like it's real
(21:09):
simple Meat, bones, organ andfat.
Don't cook it.
Farmer's dog has screwed thisup for so many people.
Oh, totally.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Because they advertise as a natural, healthy
diet and they're not.
They're high in carbs andpeople just I don't know why
it's like people feel like theirpets have to have rice like
rice or oats like riceespecially.
It's like this magic ingredientin every recipe Got to put some
rice in, or some brown rice orsome oatmeal.
(21:40):
Dogs don't need any of thatstuff and it's not good for them
.
They don't need any of thosestarches.
People don't understand.
We see something I would sayit's extremely rare, almost
unheard of, to find somebodythat's home preparing a meal for
their dog.
That is doing it what I wouldcall balanced and doing it
(22:03):
appropriately, and a big part ofthat is the organ and bone.
Like they can go buy raw meatbut then they try to quote
unquote balance it with producewhich dogs don't digest very
well and then they put in thesecarbs and it's not.
It's not a healthy diet.
Now, they might do better onthat than kibble, because pretty
(22:26):
much anything's better thankibble.
At least it's whole food.
But it's not a balanced diet.
But to get the organs, you know,like what we recommend.
You want this blend of organs,so you go to the store.
You probably find some liver,maybe some heart, but you're not
going to find kidney or spleenor lung or any of these other
(22:48):
organs that are in your rawblends or in your.
You know your organ only blend,so how are you getting that
part in?
You don't?
We don't want to be putting asynthetic is the other thing.
You see, you know, I'll justthrow in this nice multivitamin
with 60 ingredients in itbecause it's got all the
nutrients that you know my dogneeds.
(23:10):
Well, those are all synthetics.
If it reads like a bunch ofchemicals, it's a bunch of
chemicals and you have no ideahow bioavailable that is.
So to get this organ and bonecontent right in the diet, it's,
I mean, unless you are likebutchering your own animals, I,
I mean, I've worked with a fewpeople over the years that get
(23:30):
it and they have the resources.
They live on a cattle ranch orthey have a family that hunts
regularly.
They, they got all the organsand meat and everything in their
freezer so they can do it, butthat's extremely rare.
So I we we really typicallystirp steer people away from any
(23:51):
kind of home preparationbecause it's so hard to do it
really, really well and balancethe diet whole food, because if
you're not adding supplements.
You've got to be reallyparticular with the balance, and
probably the main thing I seeleft out the most is the bone.
With the balance, and probablythe main thing I see left out
the most is the bone.
I see a doctor people have beencooking for them and there's no
mineral being added at all.
(24:13):
And that's certainly not.
I mean, not only is the dietnot usually not balanced, but
then they're getting none ofthat natural, natural mineral in
the diet which is, you know,obviously super important.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
So we have chicken hearts Now have, uh, chicken
hearts now we have chickenhearts and we have chicken organ
.
But what do you think'sfrightening the people now?
It's the bird flu and the avma.
Dr jasic that you sent me thearticle.
They're really pushing no rawdiets.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Right, they've always pushed no raw.
Now they have another reason tomake people more afraid of the
raw and another talking pointfor the vets to make people
afraid of feeding raw.
Well, it's the bird flu.
So you know better not feed itbecause Because you know who has
, you know, you see all thesebirds out there all the time
(25:11):
dropping from the sky, becauseit's supposedly, it's supposedly
spread by, you know, wild birds, you know waterfowl in
particular is what they'resaying and that is just blown
around out there.
So if we're in danger of, youknow, killing chickens and
making us sick, why aren't thesebirds dying from it?
(25:33):
I listen to a Joel Saltonpodcast every week and he's like
you know, we got like 20 pondson our property and there's
geese and ducks, you know all ofthe all of the water birds and
he said I have yet to find adead one.
He said I know they die, but ifthis virus was rampant,
(25:54):
wouldn't you expect them?
Just, you know, just seeing awhole bunch of dead ones.
If this is what's killing thechickens, and you know the other
thing is they're noteliminating sick chickens.
These chickens are not sick, nosymptoms, they're just testing
them.
So it's another case of anepidemic of a positive test, and
(26:15):
we know these PCR tests arebogus.
I asymptomatic chickens arethey asymptomatic?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
asymptomatic spreaders, except they get
killed.
Did you see how many millions?
It was like 66 million.
It was ungodly.
And I saw this great meme wherethey go into fort knox, they
open up to see where the gold isand what do they find?
Eggs, eggs from all the stores.
They've confiscated all theeggs.
(26:44):
They put them there.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That's funny.
Well, you know, the otherproblem with this DeeDee is they
don't have enough room in thesehouses to keep the chickens six
feet apart, so I guess theiroption is to kill them.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Because if they could keep, them six feet apart.
They'd be good, and the masksand the little bitty tiny mask.
Who's making those little bittytiny masks?
But you know they have the clawsso they can just yank those
masks right off oh yeah, theywouldn't tolerate that and then
they just poke through Gosh,gosh, you know?
I mean, come on, it's not thatwe don't have a heart for sick
(27:19):
animals we do.
But what we have a heart for isthe truth, so that we can make
animals well.
And I'm not a fan of killingoff all these birds, all these
chickens, for no reason.
For no reason.
That just sounds veryapocalyptic.
(27:40):
I mean, think about it.
If it jumps over to human,we're just going to start
killing people that we think aregoing to.
You know, look, you rememberthis in COVID?
Remember how people were?
They hated you, you were theenemy, and I contend that those
(28:04):
people would have been fine withyou being killed, because they
thought if you didn't get a shotand didn't wear a mask, you
were a threat to their survival.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
So you need to die Right and people said that, like
people that don't get the shots, they're a threat.
They should die.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That's frightening.
So you know, it's just one stepaway when we are allowing all
of these birds to be killed, fortwo cats that we don't even
know actually died from the birdflu.
And yet, dr Jasik, we have howmany people dying of fentanyl?
(28:41):
We have how many people youknow the whole um autism thing
is coming up right now one in 36, one in 36, uh, and they, they
look at it, um, male childrenare going to have autism and and
as as as the president said, wehave a problem.
(29:02):
Something is terribly wrong,right?
So you know, we have to reallylook at where there is truth in
these numbers.
I don't think that two catsthat we can't even truly, if you
look at some of the reports,they're going to say, well, it
had the sequence oh God, where'dwe hear the sequence, you know,
(29:26):
in the cats that matches theh1n1, all that kind of jazz.
Two, and now we're going tokill all these millions of birds
.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Come on, come on, come on right, it's like you
know, I mean this when you thinkabout how dark this could get.
They're like normalizing massextinction.
They're starting with chickensbecause people, you know,
chickens aren't so warm andfuzzy.
I have chickens and I like them, but they're not like cuddly
really, and they're veryinteresting and they're very
(29:56):
interesting personalities andall this.
But you know, you're a bitremoved from the chickens.
They're not a mammal.
You know all that.
Now they're already talkingabout it jumping to cows, right,
so then are they going to start?
Well, we got to starteliminating these cow herds
because it's spreading to them.
(30:18):
And then people get used tohearing about that oh, looks
like it's spreading to the pets.
You know, what are we going todo?
Better, start euthanizing pets.
And then what?
Oh, people got it, starteliminating them.
I mean, it's like a the boilingfrog thing, right, you just
people get used to a narrativeand start normalizing.
Well, this is what you do tostay healthy.
(30:41):
And they just keep eliminatingone species to the next, when it
doesn't make any sense at all.
Nothing has been proven aboutthis.
They say there's a positivetest.
You know, if there was millionsof chickens getting actually
sick, that would be different.
But they're not.
They're not.
They're just coming up with apositive test and one positive
(31:02):
test and a whole flock which inthese big, you know, production
facilities could, could bemillions of birds in just one
facility.
It's, it's really sick and yetpeople just latch on to the fear
.
Just latch on to the fear andbelieve the, the propaganda stop
it, stop it, stop it, stop it,stop it.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Bob Newhart.
Bob Newhart, he's like you know, how can we?
She's like, how do you fix me,doc?
And he's like you know, becauseshe's thinking these terrible
thoughts on that thing.
Or she's worried and he's likestop it, stop it, stop it, stop
it, stop it, stop it.
That way, All right, everybody.
(31:47):
Thanks so much for listeningtoday.
Remember, tell your friendsabout the Raw Dog Food Truth
Podcast.
It's a great way to geteducated, helping your dog live
longer lives, and that is to one, put your fear aside and really
understand what this thing isin front of you.
(32:08):
It is a carnivore.
It doesn't cook its food, itdoesn't eat grains, you know,
and it eats things that we wouldnever eat, like vomit and poop.
And I say that to people andthey're like, yeah, but it's
gross and they shouldn't.
Well, okay, but they do andthey're fine.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
They don't think it's gross.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, they don't have that story in their head.
They're like right.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Right, I mean, why let the food go to waste?
Oh look, I vomited up that bone.
I spent all that time chewingon it.
I'm going to give it another go.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
I cannot, I cannot.
So we're out here in Arizona.
We have three ponds right here,boom, boom, boom, ducks, geese
everywhere.
I cannot keep Lazi from eatingthe poop, right, she's like I'm
going to go out there and get asmuch of that poop in me as I
can, right.
And so I have to give her hertoy so that she will focus on
(33:03):
that, not the poop.
But she's a little sneaky, youknow, and she'll be there and
she's not sick, she's just fine.
So, um, not that I want her toeat the poop, but I'm also not
going to freak out that she'seating the poop.
It's like an actual probiotic,it's like whatever.
Whatever you know it, it iswhat it is.
(33:23):
They are carnivores.
So we need to respect theirbeing, and that means respect
and adhere to what they need toeat to be the healthiest.
All right, if your dog'soverweight, got lapomas, um,
let's get all the toxins out oftheir system.
I know I hear you saying rightnow, but I have to do you, but I
(33:44):
have to do you.
Really, come on now, there's nothere's no, there's no have tos,
right, right, because there's alot of people that aren't.
So that's just that's.
You know what I'm talking about.
So get the toxins out of theirsystem, feed them what they're
supposed to.
Get over to AHA vetcom, that'sDr J 16, aha vetcom dot com,
that's Dr Jasek's team.
Ahavetcom.
If you have a diagnosis, if youhave a protocol, if you have
(34:16):
something coming up that you'renot sure that that's the way you
want to go with your dog, maybeyou want to go a different way,
you want to be holistic.
You want a second, thirdopinion?
Get over to AHAVetcom.
Dr Jasek can work with youtoday.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Oh, maybe not today, she's quite busy but you can get
a list pretty soon, pretty soon.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yeah, there you go uh , if you want some help, uh, get
over to rawdogfoodandcompanycom.
Sign up for our free 20-minuteconsultation.
That usually goes about 45minutes, because you know that's
what brian does.
He's very good.
Um and uh, we ship all over.
Where do we ship?
We ship all all over the unitedstates, including alaska and
hawaii, but I will say it'squite expensive to go there.
(34:52):
Okay, it's very expensiveshipping is expensive.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Shipping's expensive and it's not like you're.
You're inventing those pricesLike the companies that ship are
raising those prices Likeastronomically.
We ship stuff out too and it'sgetting expensive and
unfortunately they're gettingless and less reliable too.
But yeah, it's expensive toship the world is going to
(35:21):
change.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Dr Jasek, I'm waiting .
We're doing some good things inthe world right now.
I think the pricing is going tochange eventually.
I hope there's going to be somerelief out there and so I'm
very hopeful about the future.
Um, I I, I wouldn't worry aboutthis bird flu guys.
Uh, seriously, if, if you gooutside and you start seeing
flocks of bird fall from the sky, then we'll talk about it.
(35:44):
Then we'll maybe, you know,look at what chemtrails are
being sprayed in their way.
But I've, right now it's likecome on.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
No big deal.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
There's no big deal, absolutely All right, everybody,
get over to raw dog food andcompanycom.
Well, your pet's health is ourbusiness.
And what, dr Jasek?
Our friends don't let friendsfeed kibble, y'all.
That's right, we'll see yousoon, everybody, bye-bye, bye.
Find out how you can start yourdog on the road to health and
longevity.
Go to rawdogfoodandcompanycom,where friends don't let friends
(36:15):
feed kibble and where your pet'shealth is our business.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Just snap.
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