August 15, 2025 • 24 mins
The pet food industry is ramping up false claims that dogs have "evolved" to eat processed foods, but this contradicts biological reality and ignores how animals are designed to eat species-appropriate diets.
• Dogs and cats have not evolved to eat processed foods any more than humans have evolved to thrive on Snickers bars and Fruit Loops
• Raw diets contain bioactive compounds (glutathione, L-carnitine, CoQ10, taurine, creatine) that cannot be found in the plant world
• Dr. Connor Brady's research confirms that whole prey diets fulfill dogs' complete nutritional requirements
• Dogs' digestive systems remain carnivorous with tearing teeth and wide-angled jaws designed for meat consumption
• Dogs cannot properly digest plant matter - feed them a carrot and it comes out largely undigested
• Raw-fed dogs typically have smaller, firmer stools, indicating better nutrient absorption
• Organs are the "multivitamins" of raw diets and should make up at least 10% of meals
• Many raw-fed dogs show reduced anxiety and hyperactivity compared to kibble-fed counterparts
• The "zoomies" may be related to sugar content in kibble, similar to hyperactivity in children
• While raw diets may seem more expensive upfront, they can save thousands in veterinary bills for preventable conditions
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh snap.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Well, hello Raw Feeders.
I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, ceoof Raw Dog Food Company, where
your pet's health is ourbusiness and we're friends.
Like my friend Dr Judy Jasik,she didn't let friends feed
Kibble.
Good morning, dr Jasik.
How are ya Doing?
Good?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
doing good, loving our new little niche here in
Tennessee.
We moved further east and justa lovely community.
We really like it here, morelike I think we're gonna find a
lot more like-minded people,more folks.
You know, um, we were going outto some farmers, markets and
stuff yesterday and um, moreorganic grown produce and all
(00:38):
that kind of stuff.
So I think it's, I think it'sgoing to be good, I think it's
going to end up being a goodmove.
As you know, tiring as movingis, um it's, it's starting to
feel more subtle.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So yeah, I think you guys are good at it.
You're just like, yep, that'sthe one, that's it, let's go,
let's do it.
You don't you know, futz around.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Well, we know what we want.
You know, like if we hadn'tfound a house that really fit.
You know, you have your majorcriteria and you get your must
haves and then your nice tohaves and then your absolute
rule outs and all of that stuff.
So you rule out a lot, of, alot of properties pretty quick.
That way.
This fit the bill.
I it was more money than wethought we'd spend, but doesn't
(01:19):
that always happen?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, well, you know, come on, you can't take it with
you.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Right, that's what I feel is like.
You know, I want a place that Ireally, really love being and I
just would love to never moveagain.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Seriously, I know here when I'm 90,.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I mean, of course life happens we said that in our
last place and lots of thingsin our lives are, of course, out
of control.
But you're not gonna accomplishthat if you don't really love
the place where you're moving to, right, like you're gonna
always be, like yeah, okay, yeah, but I wish, really wish, we
could have done this or that, orthen you find another place
(01:59):
that you like better.
But if you, you gotta reallylove the place and that's, you
know, I don't know that'ssomething worth investing into.
I mean, you got to think about,you know.
So you got the logistics of thehouse and the square footage
and all that stuff, but thenthere's things about the
property that you love.
I mean, we're set back off theroad.
That was a big thing for me.
I don't want to be sitting.
Most houses are on a busy roador you're right next to farm
(02:21):
fields where there's grain,chemicals all the time and
there's just things like that.
We wanted to make sure, youknow that would have really been
problematic, you know.
But if you really like theplace, then maybe you can stay
there long term.
So that's what we're hoping foranyway nice, nice.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, I I hope that I get to come visit you soon.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I'll let you get all moved in and then I'll okay.
Yeah let's get the squarebedroom set up.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, hey, uh, you know I, brian, always brings a
lot of things to my attentionand he was saying that there's
this big uh conversation pushfrom the commercial pet food
industry and the vet industrywhere they're saying I am, and
we heard this before, but hesaid it's really ridiculous of
(03:07):
what they're saying that dogshave evolved, right, they are no
longer like wolves, they are nolonger like mountain lions, the
cats, and they have evolved toeat this food.
Right, they do that.
Not, not raw food, the kibbles.
Right, the cooked food.
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They have evolved.
We've heard this before.
But he said it's really rampingup and they're.
They're talking about all thisfortification that's in this
food that is good for theanimals.
Now, how asinine is that?
But I will tell you, dr Jasek,when you geta narrative out
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there and you say it withauthority, you say it with
authority.
People tend to believe it andI'm just like how is it that we,
we as humans, have not evolvedto eat processed foods?
Is there anyone listening todaythat would say, absolutely bar
(04:12):
none.
You could eat processed foods.
It's just as good as havingthat raw milk.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I feel so much healthier when I eat those
snickers bars, don't you know, Imean just, yeah, forget about
the broccoli.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I mean for the raw milk yeah just give me the, give
me them snicker bars and thosefruit loops, and I'll just be
doing really good and I'mwondering if it's because
they're that people are wakingup, they are seeing, after we've
been pushing this ball up thehill for however many years you
know decades and it is finallyclicking with them that real
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food is the best thing for theirdogs and I was.
I was reading dr connor brady'sbook.
Uh, it's, it's called feedingdogs dry or raw.
Right, the science behind thedebate.
And he was saying a whole preydiet.
And he means all the parts,guys, all the parts, not the
guts, but all the parts, right?
(05:07):
So, uh, fulfills the dog'snutrient requirements.
It fulfills the dog's nutrientrequirements and everybody is
trying to figure out this isn'tcomplete balance, is it this?
Is it that?
And he said here's, you knowthe one thing and you may get
this.
He said you need to know thedog's required daily allowance
(05:32):
for calcium about as much as youneed to know it for yourself.
So I was going to ask you, drJasek, do you know what your
daily required calcium is?
I don't have a clue.
How are you ever going to behealthy, how are you not going
to to cause yourself ultimateharm without knowing that?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, because I listened to my body and when my
body says you know what, I thinkyou need to go have some milk
or some yogurt or whatever.
And I think the whole thingabout calcium I've I've heard
this too is like a big misdome.
Like people take all thesecalcium supplements Like we
don't really need, like if youeating a healthy diet, you don't
(06:14):
need the calcium I.
But I think I think the samething happens with pets too.
People get so hung up.
I got to take the multivitamins, so I'm getting everything I
need, then I can eat what I want, but then those are all
synthetics and they're notabsorbable into the body.
You know they're not actuallygetting into the tissues and
doing what you need them to do,like whole foods will.
(06:36):
So this whole like adding allthese nutrients it just it looks
good on paper.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You know there's a big push here, Dr nutrients.
It just it looks good on paper.
You know there's a big pushhere, Dr Jacek, in Colorado, for
people to have to registertheir dogs.
Then you come into the stateand I'm like how, how does that
work?
How's that work, you having toregister your dog?
Who, who do you have toregister that with, and why?
You know, I know why, but doyou really?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
and why.
You know what, I know why.
But do you really?
Yeah, it just puts you on theradar.
Like if you go and you registereven just like like the county
registrations that they'vealways had once you do that,
then they're going to want youto be renewing that and then
you're on their radar where theycould come check in.
So you've got that currentrapey shot.
But if you don't ever registerwith them, how are they going to
know you even have a pet?
How do they know you're cominginto the state with a pet if you
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don't register it?
You know you.
In my opinion, you're betteroff if you want, if you're not
gonna, if you don't want tofollow all the laws and the
rules, then you're better offnot registering and not getting
on their radar and it's notreally that we don't want to
follow the rules, it's that wewant healthy animals, right,
(07:49):
right, so what?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
definitely, you know we've talked about this ad
nauseum, but what we see is that, because of what happened in
COVID, and people aredistrusting their, you know, the
, the, the, the health industrythey're they're really pushing
harder with the pets, way harder, making things look like
they're worse than they are, sothat these pets again get all of
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these things put in their body.
And I think you're seeing DrAndy has said we're seeing the
sickest dogs we've ever seen.
So what is happening?
What is happening?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, and I agree with you.
It's not, I mean, good diet,raw food, raw food diet
absolutely important, but thebigger issue is the chemicals.
I mean I I really think thatthey're and they're getting more
and more toxic.
I don't know what they'reputting, these vaccines, but
they're getting worse and worseis why we're seeing cancer.
(08:48):
I mean, you know, we've alwaysbeen.
When I started off early in mycareer, I went to work in a
practice.
We were doing everything prettymuch conventional.
We didn't see cancer was an oldage disease and we were
vaccinating.
I mean, the recommendationsback then were every year for
vaccines and and the docs werenot not getting cancer at one to
(09:09):
three years old, like they arenow.
They were much, much healthier.
Um, so I know that these drugsare a whole lot more toxic than
than they used to be and, yeah,you got to stop that and you
know I'm I'm not advocating forbreaking laws or not following
the rules either.
But at what point do you startto push back?
(09:31):
What did parents have to do?
And they said no, I'm notputting toxic vaccines into my
children.
They pull them out of schooland they homeschool.
They figure out another way.
I mean, nothing's going tochange If you don't like the way
things are.
Nothing's going to change Ifyou just keep saying, well, I
have to and do it anyway.
You have to start to push backand, you know, raise a little
(09:54):
ruckus about it.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, yeah, a raw diet does have everything that a
dog or cat needs, guys, and Ithink you know.
If you were to read Dr Brady'sbook, you would see why a vegan
diet for cats or dogs isextremely dangerous.
(10:16):
Right, it's extremely dangerous.
You know, he?
He talks about the, the meat.
Okay, whether it's duck orwhether it's chicken, or whether
it's beef, whatever it is, itcontains these bioactive
compounds that you cannot findin the plant world.
Okay, you can't find it likeglutathione, l-carnitine and I
(10:38):
don't even say these, right, butCoQ10.
It also contains compounds liketaurine, creatine.
He said that the byproducts fromthe digestion of meat okay,
that they have health benefits,but they also have these
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peptides that are known toinduce opiate-like effects in
animals.
So I think that's veryinteresting, because we hear
this all the time.
When people get off kibblediets and I don't care if it
says it's meat or it's duck orit's chicken in a kibble diet,
it really is nothing.
Care, if it says it's meat orit's duck or it's chicken in a
kibble diet, it really isnothing anymore.
(11:23):
It's cardboard, right, and thenthey got to add all the crap
that that doesn't work.
But he's saying right here whatwe see all the time dogs calm
down.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Right, yeah, oh, absolutely More trainable.
Dogs with anxiety, dogs thatyou know like just hyper and
can't focus, um much moretrainable?
Yeah, I hear that all the timetoo.
And you know dogs and cats,they're not equipped to break
down.
Plant plants are actually hardto digest.
I know I feel better if I, if Ieat I mean I used to be able to
(11:58):
eat like more raw veggies andstuff I don't feel so good Like
I can just tell it's harder todigest if I eat a lot of that
stuff.
I and for me, like eating meator animal products is much
easier to digest.
But if you just look at andthis is where I questioned this
whole evolution thing, will theybe evolved?
In what way?
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Their mouths are the same.
They still got shearing teethand incisors for tearing, you
know, meat off.
They got the wide angled jaws.
So as somebody analyzed theirdigestive tract to say that they
can now digest plant matter,because if you look at an
herbivore like a cow or a horse,part of their digestive tract
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is a big fermentation bath.
Cows have the rumen and horsesit's the cecum.
That plant material sits inthere.
Their digestive tract doesn'tbreak it down.
The bacteria do.
It's why cows sit and chewtheir cut.
I mean they eat and theyswallow it and then they burp it
back up and they chew it upsome more and then it goes back
down and it sits in this bigfermentation bath.
Up and they chew it up somemore and then it goes back down
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and it sits in this bigfermentation bath.
That's what it takes to breakdown grass.
It's.
It's hard to digest.
They're equipped to do that.
Feed a dog a raw carrot.
They're pooping out pieces ofcarrot.
Their digestion hasn't eventouched it, so they can't break
down plants.
So this whole thing about?
Well, they've evolved as such abunch of bunk.
Why?
Why do dogs have such tinylittle peanut poops when they're
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eating raw?
Cause their body is absorbingand assimilating most of it and
there's just a tiny little bitof waste versus kibble.
They got these big, ginormous,usually soft poops, or you know,
I don't know why people thinkthat pets have to have fiber and
they have to have veggies andso many people just think well,
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they just got to have.
And I'm not saying that produceis absolutely wrong, just saying
it's not needed to balance thediet.
You can throw a little bit inif you want to, but they really
don't break it down very well.
And I agree I don't think it'snecessary to balance diet.
The diet can be 100% balancedand the best diet is the diet
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balance on animal products.
But you got to do the rightrotation.
You can't feed just turkey orjust beef or just rabbit and you
got to add in all the grossstuff like the organs and the
eyes and the brains and thetestes and all that stuff.
That's how you really balanceit out.
Is all that extra stuff?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
So he was talking about, you know, organs, and we
say organs are the multivitamins, right?
So people, um, you want to makesure that your blends have at
least 10% organ in it, at least,and you can add more, add more.
You can add up to, I would say,20%.
If your dog can handle it, Iprobably wouldn't go that high
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in the beginning.
You know, go with the 10, bumpit to 12, go to 15, see where
your dogs are.
But Dr Brady was saying the onehormone that is really, really
important when these dogs eatorgans is insulin.
And he said but there are many,many not that are in the raw
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diet, are not even in the AAFCOnutrient profile.
They're not even.
So people will say, hey, isthis AAFCO approved?
You're like God, I hope not.
Right, because that means thatfood doesn't have diddly-boo in
it.
Right, it is, it's so.
(15:52):
The raw diet, if you guys arerotating, if you're feeding a
diet that has everything in it,right, meat, bones, organ and
fat.
When I say everything, noteverything, that is 60
ingredients long Meat, bones,organ and fat.
Maybe it's got some fur in it,okie dokie, you know that's just
(16:13):
roughage, right?
You're talking about howthey're going to poop things out
.
Do we really need the veggies?
Get the rabbit and the tripe.
It's got the fur in it, youknow.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Just let that scour.
Also, fur is like it hasminerals in it too.
You know, like what do you do,I mean, one of the ways that you
can test for minerals in thebody?
You check the fur right, sothere's a lot of minerals in
first, like one of the highestsources of manganese and other
minerals.
So there's actually valuablenutrition and it kind of scours.
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You know.
I mean sometimes you've gotthese little roto rooting, you
know, kind of like little pillowpad going through there and
kind of scour stuff out a littlebit.
You know it's all meant.
You know they eat this stufffor a reason.
I mean nature built this systemfor a reason and it works.
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There's a reason why fur is isbeneficial and all the organs
wolf packs, I mean they'vestudied this.
They eat the organs first, the,the alpha members of the pack.
When they kill an elk they goin there and they're eating the
liver and the spleen and allthat stuff.
It's the lower members of thepack that are, you know, chewing
meat scraps off the bones yeah,it's pretty cool to have a game
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camera.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
You know you can watch the different animals and
how they come and feed and we,um, so we have these little
voles, as you know voles, voles,moles, whatever, they're all
the same we.
So we have these little voles,as you know voles, voles, moles,
whatever, they're all the samefamily right.
And these little guys can tearyour yard apart One of them,
anyway.
So I had one, and so you knowwe trapped him and he was pretty
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fat and you know he was dead.
He was dead, we trapped him andhe died.
But we have this little likeplace that we take them to make
sure that the other animals getit's a sacrifice stone.
You know it's like we take himout and put him and the fox come
and get him.
The fox come and get him andthey are.
(18:18):
You know, I think they'rethankful, but you can hear the
fox around here screaming.
You know they have that screambecause they're getting their
prey.
And this is just the life cycle.
Right, it is the life cycle,but again, it would be
interesting to see I reallywouldn't want to see this, but
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it would be interesting If youhad foxes in, like the zoo, and
you said we're going to justfeed these foxes, hibble and see
what their skin looked like,see if their allergies go up,
see if they're like doing thezoomies.
You know, the one thing that Iwas going to ask you about
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zoomies is I don't see, I neversaw Asta and I never saw Lazi
get the zoomies.
And the reason no, I know theyjust don't do zoomies.
They will run fast for a ballor they will work hard in
training.
I never did see them get thezoomies and I was at the
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warehouse yesterday and one ofthe other companies has a dog
that they feed kibble and thisdog was going crazy Just zoom,
zoom zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom,zoom outside.
And I was thinking about what drbrady had said about how raw.
You know the raw diet numberone, we know it doesn't have a
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bunch of sugar in it, right, Iwas just wondering about the
zoomies I've never thought aboutthat.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
But do kibble fed dogs, do the zoomies more don't
know.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, I don't know it .
Just it struck me.
Yesterday I was watching thisdog and I was like how else,
right, do you get this jitteryout of control?
Sugar rush out of your bodyunless you're you know?
The only way dogs know how todo it is get the zoomies so it's
just like kids.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
It's like kids that are get you know too much sugar
on christmas or something, butthey're doing, they're running
around like crazy and I mean thezoomies for no reason, right,
just they go outside and theyjust start doing the zoomies.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I get it if lozzie's playing with another dog and
they run together.
It's a different action.
It's a different action.
So I'd love to hear from someof our listeners to let me know
did you have a dog that had thezoomies while on kibble?
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Did they change when they goton raw, or did they not?
I don't know, it was justsomething that I thought, but I
wondered how do they deal withall that sugar in their body?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Right, you think it would just be driving them nuts.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, cause they like , especially if it's a dog
that's in a kennel.
Oh my gosh, dr Jason, thinkabout this.
You feed your dog kibble, right, and then you got to go to work
, you put them in a kennel.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
What the heck?
And the people wonder why dogstry to chew out of their crates.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Right or eat a pad that's in there.
Now you got to have a $15,000surgery to extract it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Right.
Or if they're not in a crate,they're tearing up the house,
because dogs aren't meant to bealone to begin with.
They're pack animals, they'remeant to have company, and then,
yeah, get them all amped up onsugar and then leave them alone
for the day.
They got to get that energy outsomehow.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, Very interesting.
So I would say you know, let usknow, Let us know how your
dog's doing and you can email usat, at at what customer service
at raw dog food and companycom.
You know, I know where am I, butI think on several of our
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podcasts the information thereis a send us a text button so
you can send us a text, you canemail us, you can let us know
what you want us to discuss onthe podcast or let us know
what's going on with your animal.
Okay, because we would love toknow what have the success
stories been in your dog'shealth regimen, right?
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And if you need some extra helpgetting your dog even to that
higher level, higher level ofhealth, you can always work with
Dr Jacek at ahavetcom.
Ahavetcom and get your dog on aspecies appropriate diet.
Let's get everything out oftheir diet that could be causing
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then the zoomies and thezoomies in their head or just
this extra stress, right,they're that they're
experiencing and maybe you don'trealize it.
Right, because you're you'rethinking that they need the
kibble because it has vitaminsand minerals.
No, no, no, it has chemicalsand cookies and and it has crap
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and just and just just try it.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Just try it for a month yeah, Long term commitment
.
Just try it and see what younotice, Cause you got to give it
some time to see what reallywhat you notice.
But you know so many peoplejust come back and say, oh,
their dog just did a total likeone, 80 when they started on the
, on the raw.
So you know, give it a try andsee what you notice.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Well, brian, he told me yesterday.
He said, didi, I'm going towrite this article.
He said about people sayingthat the raw diet is too
expensive and he said is itreally cheaper if you have to
spend $15,000, $10,000?
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Dollars, $10,000.
Some people have spent tens ofthousands of dollars on their
dog's ill health right On theirdisease and he said is that
kibble really cheaper in thelong run, is it so?
It's an interesting articlethat he always has a great
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perspective because he talks toso many people right, like you
and like me, and so you hear thestories and um.
So anyway, it's going to be agood article.
It will come out.
If you're signed up on ouremail list, you will get that.
Um, get your dog on a speciesappropriate diet.
Just go torawdogfoodandcompanycom, because
your pet's health is ourbusiness.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
And what dr jacek friends, don't let friends feed,
kibble y'all that's right,we'll see you soon, everybody,
bye-bye oh snap.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Find out how you can start your dog on the road to
health and longevity.
Go to rawdogfoodandcompanycom,where friends don't let friends
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Oh snap.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Well, hello Raw Feeders.
I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, ceoof Raw Dog Food Company, where
your pet's health is ourbusiness and we're friends.
Like my friend Dr Judy Jasik,she didn't let friends feed
Kibble.
Good morning, dr Jasik.
How are ya Doing?
Good?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
doing good, loving our new little niche here in
Tennessee.
We moved further east and justa lovely community.
We really like it here, morelike I think we're gonna find a
lot more like-minded people,more folks.
You know, um, we were going outto some farmers, markets and
stuff yesterday and um, moreorganic grown produce and all
(00:38):
that kind of stuff.
So I think it's, I think it'sgoing to be good, I think it's
going to end up being a goodmove.
As you know, tiring as movingis, um it's, it's starting to
feel more subtle.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So yeah, I think you guys are good at it.
You're just like, yep, that'sthe one, that's it, let's go,
let's do it.
You don't you know, futz around.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Well, we know what we want.
You know, like if we hadn'tfound a house that really fit.
You know, you have your majorcriteria and you get your must
haves and then your nice tohaves and then your absolute
rule outs and all of that stuff.
So you rule out a lot, of, alot of properties pretty quick.
That way.
This fit the bill.
I it was more money than wethought we'd spend, but doesn't
(01:19):
that always happen?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, well, you know, come on, you can't take it with
you.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Right, that's what I feel is like.
You know, I want a place that Ireally, really love being and I
just would love to never moveagain.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Seriously, I know here when I'm 90,.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I mean, of course life happens we said that in our
last place and lots of thingsin our lives are, of course, out
of control.
But you're not gonna accomplishthat if you don't really love
the place where you're moving to, right, like you're gonna
always be, like yeah, okay, yeah, but I wish, really wish, we
could have done this or that, orthen you find another place
(01:59):
that you like better.
But if you, you gotta reallylove the place and that's, you
know, I don't know that'ssomething worth investing into.
I mean, you got to think about,you know.
So you got the logistics of thehouse and the square footage
and all that stuff, but thenthere's things about the
property that you love.
I mean, we're set back off theroad.
That was a big thing for me.
I don't want to be sitting.
Most houses are on a busy roador you're right next to farm
(02:21):
fields where there's grain,chemicals all the time and
there's just things like that.
We wanted to make sure, youknow that would have really been
problematic, you know.
But if you really like theplace, then maybe you can stay
there long term.
So that's what we're hoping foranyway nice, nice.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, I I hope that I get to come visit you soon.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I'll let you get all moved in and then I'll okay.
Yeah let's get the squarebedroom set up.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, hey, uh, you know I, brian, always brings a
lot of things to my attentionand he was saying that there's
this big uh conversation pushfrom the commercial pet food
industry and the vet industrywhere they're saying I am, and
we heard this before, but hesaid it's really ridiculous of
(03:07):
what they're saying that dogshave evolved, right, they are no
longer like wolves, they are nolonger like mountain lions, the
cats, and they have evolved toeat this food.
Right, they do that.
Not, not raw food, the kibbles.
Right, the cooked food.
(03:28):
They have evolved.
We've heard this before.
But he said it's really rampingup and they're.
They're talking about all thisfortification that's in this
food that is good for theanimals.
Now, how asinine is that?
But I will tell you, dr Jasek,when you geta narrative out
(03:49):
there and you say it withauthority, you say it with
authority.
People tend to believe it andI'm just like how is it that we,
we as humans, have not evolvedto eat processed foods?
Is there anyone listening todaythat would say, absolutely bar
(04:12):
none.
You could eat processed foods.
It's just as good as havingthat raw milk.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I feel so much healthier when I eat those
snickers bars, don't you know, Imean just, yeah, forget about
the broccoli.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I mean for the raw milk yeah just give me the, give
me them snicker bars and thosefruit loops, and I'll just be
doing really good and I'mwondering if it's because
they're that people are wakingup, they are seeing, after we've
been pushing this ball up thehill for however many years you
know decades and it is finallyclicking with them that real
(04:46):
food is the best thing for theirdogs and I was.
I was reading dr connor brady'sbook.
Uh, it's, it's called feedingdogs dry or raw.
Right, the science behind thedebate.
And he was saying a whole preydiet.
And he means all the parts,guys, all the parts, not the
guts, but all the parts, right?
(05:07):
So, uh, fulfills the dog'snutrient requirements.
It fulfills the dog's nutrientrequirements and everybody is
trying to figure out this isn'tcomplete balance, is it this?
Is it that?
And he said here's, you knowthe one thing and you may get
this.
He said you need to know thedog's required daily allowance
(05:32):
for calcium about as much as youneed to know it for yourself.
So I was going to ask you, drJasek, do you know what your
daily required calcium is?
I don't have a clue.
How are you ever going to behealthy, how are you not going
to to cause yourself ultimateharm without knowing that?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, because I listened to my body and when my
body says you know what, I thinkyou need to go have some milk
or some yogurt or whatever.
And I think the whole thingabout calcium I've I've heard
this too is like a big misdome.
Like people take all thesecalcium supplements Like we
don't really need, like if youeating a healthy diet, you don't
(06:14):
need the calcium I.
But I think I think the samething happens with pets too.
People get so hung up.
I got to take the multivitamins, so I'm getting everything I
need, then I can eat what I want, but then those are all
synthetics and they're notabsorbable into the body.
You know they're not actuallygetting into the tissues and
doing what you need them to do,like whole foods will.
(06:36):
So this whole like adding allthese nutrients it just it looks
good on paper.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You know there's a big push here, Dr nutrients.
It just it looks good on paper.
You know there's a big pushhere, Dr Jacek, in Colorado, for
people to have to registertheir dogs.
Then you come into the stateand I'm like how, how does that
work?
How's that work, you having toregister your dog?
Who, who do you have toregister that with, and why?
You know, I know why, but doyou really?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
and why.
You know what, I know why.
But do you really?
Yeah, it just puts you on theradar.
Like if you go and you registereven just like like the county
registrations that they'vealways had once you do that,
then they're going to want youto be renewing that and then
you're on their radar where theycould come check in.
So you've got that currentrapey shot.
But if you don't ever registerwith them, how are they going to
know you even have a pet?
How do they know you're cominginto the state with a pet if you
(07:29):
don't register it?
You know you.
In my opinion, you're betteroff if you want, if you're not
gonna, if you don't want tofollow all the laws and the
rules, then you're better offnot registering and not getting
on their radar and it's notreally that we don't want to
follow the rules, it's that wewant healthy animals, right,
(07:49):
right, so what?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
definitely, you know we've talked about this ad
nauseum, but what we see is that, because of what happened in
COVID, and people aredistrusting their, you know, the
, the, the, the health industrythey're they're really pushing
harder with the pets, way harder, making things look like
they're worse than they are, sothat these pets again get all of
(08:17):
these things put in their body.
And I think you're seeing DrAndy has said we're seeing the
sickest dogs we've ever seen.
So what is happening?
What is happening?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, and I agree with you.
It's not, I mean, good diet,raw food, raw food diet
absolutely important, but thebigger issue is the chemicals.
I mean I I really think thatthey're and they're getting more
and more toxic.
I don't know what they'reputting, these vaccines, but
they're getting worse and worseis why we're seeing cancer.
(08:48):
I mean, you know, we've alwaysbeen.
When I started off early in mycareer, I went to work in a
practice.
We were doing everything prettymuch conventional.
We didn't see cancer was an oldage disease and we were
vaccinating.
I mean, the recommendationsback then were every year for
vaccines and and the docs werenot not getting cancer at one to
(09:09):
three years old, like they arenow.
They were much, much healthier.
Um, so I know that these drugsare a whole lot more toxic than
than they used to be and, yeah,you got to stop that and you
know I'm I'm not advocating forbreaking laws or not following
the rules either.
But at what point do you startto push back?
(09:31):
What did parents have to do?
And they said no, I'm notputting toxic vaccines into my
children.
They pull them out of schooland they homeschool.
They figure out another way.
I mean, nothing's going tochange If you don't like the way
things are.
Nothing's going to change Ifyou just keep saying, well, I
have to and do it anyway.
You have to start to push backand, you know, raise a little
(09:54):
ruckus about it.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, yeah, a raw diet does have everything that a
dog or cat needs, guys, and Ithink you know.
If you were to read Dr Brady'sbook, you would see why a vegan
diet for cats or dogs isextremely dangerous.
(10:16):
Right, it's extremely dangerous.
You know, he?
He talks about the, the meat.
Okay, whether it's duck orwhether it's chicken, or whether
it's beef, whatever it is, itcontains these bioactive
compounds that you cannot findin the plant world.
Okay, you can't find it likeglutathione, l-carnitine and I
(10:38):
don't even say these, right, butCoQ10.
It also contains compounds liketaurine, creatine.
He said that the byproducts fromthe digestion of meat okay,
that they have health benefits,but they also have these
(11:01):
peptides that are known toinduce opiate-like effects in
animals.
So I think that's veryinteresting, because we hear
this all the time.
When people get off kibblediets and I don't care if it
says it's meat or it's duck orit's chicken in a kibble diet,
it really is nothing.
Care, if it says it's meat orit's duck or it's chicken in a
kibble diet, it really isnothing anymore.
(11:23):
It's cardboard, right, and thenthey got to add all the crap
that that doesn't work.
But he's saying right here whatwe see all the time dogs calm
down.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Right, yeah, oh, absolutely More trainable.
Dogs with anxiety, dogs thatyou know like just hyper and
can't focus, um much moretrainable?
Yeah, I hear that all the timetoo.
And you know dogs and cats,they're not equipped to break
down.
Plant plants are actually hardto digest.
I know I feel better if I, if Ieat I mean I used to be able to
(11:58):
eat like more raw veggies andstuff I don't feel so good Like
I can just tell it's harder todigest if I eat a lot of that
stuff.
I and for me, like eating meator animal products is much
easier to digest.
But if you just look at andthis is where I questioned this
whole evolution thing, will theybe evolved?
In what way?
(12:18):
Their mouths are the same.
They still got shearing teethand incisors for tearing, you
know, meat off.
They got the wide angled jaws.
So as somebody analyzed theirdigestive tract to say that they
can now digest plant matter,because if you look at an
herbivore like a cow or a horse,part of their digestive tract
(12:41):
is a big fermentation bath.
Cows have the rumen and horsesit's the cecum.
That plant material sits inthere.
Their digestive tract doesn'tbreak it down.
The bacteria do.
It's why cows sit and chewtheir cut.
I mean they eat and theyswallow it and then they burp it
back up and they chew it upsome more and then it goes back
down and it sits in this bigfermentation bath.
Up and they chew it up somemore and then it goes back down
(13:03):
and it sits in this bigfermentation bath.
That's what it takes to breakdown grass.
It's.
It's hard to digest.
They're equipped to do that.
Feed a dog a raw carrot.
They're pooping out pieces ofcarrot.
Their digestion hasn't eventouched it, so they can't break
down plants.
So this whole thing about?
Well, they've evolved as such abunch of bunk.
Why?
Why do dogs have such tinylittle peanut poops when they're
(13:24):
eating raw?
Cause their body is absorbingand assimilating most of it and
there's just a tiny little bitof waste versus kibble.
They got these big, ginormous,usually soft poops, or you know,
I don't know why people thinkthat pets have to have fiber and
they have to have veggies andso many people just think well,
(13:44):
they just got to have.
And I'm not saying that produceis absolutely wrong, just saying
it's not needed to balance thediet.
You can throw a little bit inif you want to, but they really
don't break it down very well.
And I agree I don't think it'snecessary to balance diet.
The diet can be 100% balancedand the best diet is the diet
(14:07):
balance on animal products.
But you got to do the rightrotation.
You can't feed just turkey orjust beef or just rabbit and you
got to add in all the grossstuff like the organs and the
eyes and the brains and thetestes and all that stuff.
That's how you really balanceit out.
Is all that extra stuff?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
So he was talking about, you know, organs, and we
say organs are the multivitamins, right?
So people, um, you want to makesure that your blends have at
least 10% organ in it, at least,and you can add more, add more.
You can add up to, I would say,20%.
If your dog can handle it, Iprobably wouldn't go that high
(14:48):
in the beginning.
You know, go with the 10, bumpit to 12, go to 15, see where
your dogs are.
But Dr Brady was saying the onehormone that is really, really
important when these dogs eatorgans is insulin.
And he said but there are many,many not that are in the raw
(15:32):
diet, are not even in the AAFCOnutrient profile.
They're not even.
So people will say, hey, isthis AAFCO approved?
You're like God, I hope not.
Right, because that means thatfood doesn't have diddly-boo in
it.
Right, it is, it's so.
(15:52):
The raw diet, if you guys arerotating, if you're feeding a
diet that has everything in it,right, meat, bones, organ and
fat.
When I say everything, noteverything, that is 60
ingredients long Meat, bones,organ and fat.
Maybe it's got some fur in it,okie dokie, you know that's just
(16:13):
roughage, right?
You're talking about howthey're going to poop things out
.
Do we really need the veggies?
Get the rabbit and the tripe.
It's got the fur in it, youknow.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Just let that scour.
Also, fur is like it hasminerals in it too.
You know, like what do you do,I mean, one of the ways that you
can test for minerals in thebody?
You check the fur right, sothere's a lot of minerals in
first, like one of the highestsources of manganese and other
minerals.
So there's actually valuablenutrition and it kind of scours.
(16:49):
You know.
I mean sometimes you've gotthese little roto rooting, you
know, kind of like little pillowpad going through there and
kind of scour stuff out a littlebit.
You know it's all meant.
You know they eat this stufffor a reason.
I mean nature built this systemfor a reason and it works.
(17:09):
There's a reason why fur is isbeneficial and all the organs
wolf packs, I mean they'vestudied this.
They eat the organs first, the,the alpha members of the pack.
When they kill an elk they goin there and they're eating the
liver and the spleen and allthat stuff.
It's the lower members of thepack that are, you know, chewing
meat scraps off the bones yeah,it's pretty cool to have a game
(17:31):
camera.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
You know you can watch the different animals and
how they come and feed and we,um, so we have these little
voles, as you know voles, voles,moles, whatever, they're all
the same we.
So we have these little voles,as you know voles, voles, moles,
whatever, they're all the samefamily right.
And these little guys can tearyour yard apart One of them,
anyway.
So I had one, and so you knowwe trapped him and he was pretty
(17:57):
fat and you know he was dead.
He was dead, we trapped him andhe died.
But we have this little likeplace that we take them to make
sure that the other animals getit's a sacrifice stone.
You know it's like we take himout and put him and the fox come
and get him.
The fox come and get him andthey are.
(18:18):
You know, I think they'rethankful, but you can hear the
fox around here screaming.
You know they have that screambecause they're getting their
prey.
And this is just the life cycle.
Right, it is the life cycle,but again, it would be
interesting to see I reallywouldn't want to see this, but
(18:40):
it would be interesting If youhad foxes in, like the zoo, and
you said we're going to justfeed these foxes, hibble and see
what their skin looked like,see if their allergies go up,
see if they're like doing thezoomies.
You know, the one thing that Iwas going to ask you about
(19:03):
zoomies is I don't see, I neversaw Asta and I never saw Lazi
get the zoomies.
And the reason no, I know theyjust don't do zoomies.
They will run fast for a ballor they will work hard in
training.
I never did see them get thezoomies and I was at the
(19:24):
warehouse yesterday and one ofthe other companies has a dog
that they feed kibble and thisdog was going crazy Just zoom,
zoom zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom,zoom outside.
And I was thinking about what drbrady had said about how raw.
You know the raw diet numberone, we know it doesn't have a
(19:46):
bunch of sugar in it, right, Iwas just wondering about the
zoomies I've never thought aboutthat.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
But do kibble fed dogs, do the zoomies more don't
know.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, I don't know it .
Just it struck me.
Yesterday I was watching thisdog and I was like how else,
right, do you get this jitteryout of control?
Sugar rush out of your bodyunless you're you know?
The only way dogs know how todo it is get the zoomies so it's
just like kids.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
It's like kids that are get you know too much sugar
on christmas or something, butthey're doing, they're running
around like crazy and I mean thezoomies for no reason, right,
just they go outside and theyjust start doing the zoomies.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I get it if lozzie's playing with another dog and
they run together.
It's a different action.
It's a different action.
So I'd love to hear from someof our listeners to let me know
did you have a dog that had thezoomies while on kibble?
(20:51):
Did they change when they goton raw, or did they not?
I don't know, it was justsomething that I thought, but I
wondered how do they deal withall that sugar in their body?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Right, you think it would just be driving them nuts.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, cause they like , especially if it's a dog
that's in a kennel.
Oh my gosh, dr Jason, thinkabout this.
You feed your dog kibble, right, and then you got to go to work
, you put them in a kennel.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
What the heck?
And the people wonder why dogstry to chew out of their crates.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Right or eat a pad that's in there.
Now you got to have a $15,000surgery to extract it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Right.
Or if they're not in a crate,they're tearing up the house,
because dogs aren't meant to bealone to begin with.
They're pack animals, they'remeant to have company, and then,
yeah, get them all amped up onsugar and then leave them alone
for the day.
They got to get that energy outsomehow.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, Very interesting.
So I would say you know, let usknow, Let us know how your
dog's doing and you can email usat, at at what customer service
at raw dog food and companycom.
You know, I know where am I, butI think on several of our
(22:06):
podcasts the information thereis a send us a text button so
you can send us a text, you canemail us, you can let us know
what you want us to discuss onthe podcast or let us know
what's going on with your animal.
Okay, because we would love toknow what have the success
stories been in your dog'shealth regimen, right?
(22:26):
And if you need some extra helpgetting your dog even to that
higher level, higher level ofhealth, you can always work with
Dr Jacek at ahavetcom.
Ahavetcom and get your dog on aspecies appropriate diet.
Let's get everything out oftheir diet that could be causing
(22:49):
then the zoomies and thezoomies in their head or just
this extra stress, right,they're that they're
experiencing and maybe you don'trealize it.
Right, because you're you'rethinking that they need the
kibble because it has vitaminsand minerals.
No, no, no, it has chemicalsand cookies and and it has crap
(23:11):
and just and just just try it.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Just try it for a month yeah, Long term commitment
.
Just try it and see what younotice, Cause you got to give it
some time to see what reallywhat you notice.
But you know so many peoplejust come back and say, oh,
their dog just did a total likeone, 80 when they started on the
, on the raw.
So you know, give it a try andsee what you notice.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Well, brian, he told me yesterday.
He said, didi, I'm going towrite this article.
He said about people sayingthat the raw diet is too
expensive and he said is itreally cheaper if you have to
spend $15,000, $10,000?
(23:52):
Dollars, $10,000.
Some people have spent tens ofthousands of dollars on their
dog's ill health right On theirdisease and he said is that
kibble really cheaper in thelong run, is it so?
It's an interesting articlethat he always has a great
(24:12):
perspective because he talks toso many people right, like you
and like me, and so you hear thestories and um.
So anyway, it's going to be agood article.
It will come out.
If you're signed up on ouremail list, you will get that.
Um, get your dog on a speciesappropriate diet.
Just go torawdogfoodandcompanycom, because
your pet's health is ourbusiness.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
And what dr jacek friends, don't let friends feed,
kibble y'all that's right,we'll see you soon, everybody,
bye-bye oh snap.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Find out how you can start your dog on the road to
health and longevity.
Go to rawdogfoodandcompanycom,where friends don't let friends
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