April 18, 2025 • 50 mins
Raw feeding transforms pets with vibrant health, resulting in consistently positive comments about their appearance and vitality from others who notice the difference. Real nutrition creates real results that processed foods simply cannot match.
• Health is the natural state of the body – our focus should be on identifying what's interfering with natural wellbeing
• Dogs fed varied proteins, organs, and bones receive complete nutrition without needing synthetic supplements
• The myth that raw meat causes parasites is unfounded – parasites are species-specific and modern meat is safely processed
• Many vets profit from a cycle of selling processed food and then treating the resulting illnesses
• Marketing rather than results drives much of the pet food and supplement industry
• Consistency in processed food is marketed as beneficial but variety is what creates true health
• Simple nutrition with real food delivers better results than complicated supplement regimens
• Pet parents often notice immediate improvements when switching from processed food to raw
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Well, hello raw feeders.
I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, ceoof Raw Dog Food Company, where
your pet's health is ourbusiness and where friends like
my friend Dr Judy Jasik doesn'tlet friends feed kibble.
Why not Come on?
Don't you want to make themoney that you could make?
Dr Jason, are you crazy?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Guess, so Guess.
I'm crazy Because it'd be aheck of a lot easier to just say
yeah, just feed those, as yousay, the cakey cakey, the cakey
Cookies, cakes and donuts andall that stuff.
Just feed them the Fruit Loops.
Yeah, cookies, cakes andchemicals, cookies, cakes and
donuts and all that stuff Justbeing in the Froot Loops.
Yeah, cookies, cakes andchemicals, and cookies, cakes
and chemicals.
And then you make a lot ofmoney off of them.
(00:50):
You know being sick Greatbusiness model.
Yeah, but you know we're outhere promoting raw, so your pets
can be healthy.
They don't even have to go tothat.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
And then people look at you like are you crazy?
And I'm like, well, I don'tknow.
I've only been this only my25th year.
You'd think I would havefigured out by now that I'm
crazy if I am.
But every single person I willtell you that has a raw fed dog.
I bet you, if they keep themslim and they're not overfeeding
(01:25):
them, I bet you that people sayyour dog looks amazing.
Because we get that all thetime, all the time Right, and
because there is a verydifferent look when your dog in
the same thing with people, whenwhen your dog's not getting um,
(01:46):
good nutrition.
I was, I was watching peoplethe other day.
Well, I watch people all thetime it's pretty entertaining
actually yes, but I was likethere is such a parallel between
the humans and the animals,right in this respect, that
humans limp and they walk with awaddle and they've got these
(02:10):
bellies not not all of them, butjust.
You know, I'm looking around atpeople and they're not
bright-eyed and they're nottoned and I was just like that
is.
Dogs are the same way.
You see them starting to limp.
You know their toenails aren'tcut.
Their body aches, they're outof shape, their hair's falling
(02:34):
out.
They smell.
I don't know if these peoplesmelled.
I didn't get that close.
Excuse me, do you stink?
Okay, I'm going to go off on atangent real quick.
I've noticed that all of thedeodorant companies are now
promoting that you put deodorantall over your body, not just
under your arms, but in everycrevice.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I'm just like what has happened.
I don't know, Do people stinkmore or they just want to sell
more deodorant?
I don't know.
They're like people stink moreor they just want to sell more
to you I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But I said the other day I was like what is it with
all these companies?
They're like I can put thiseverywhere on the bottom of my
feet and the back of my knees,you know, under my arms.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I was just like.
I guess they don't want us tosmell like humans, maybe.
Maybe then we're unrecognizableor something, or they just want
to sell more product.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
There you go, ding, ding, ding, ding ding, which is
something that we see all thetime in the pet world.
It doesn't I?
I'm not sure why people thinkif it's on TV or it's in the vet
clinic that it's all good foryour animal.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Right, or even on a podcast from certain people.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Right, and we typically don't name names, but
I will say that people probablyknow who you know, who things
who were talking about in incertain circles.
But there are a lot ofsupplement pushers.
Push, push, push thesupplements because you may not,
you may no longer be actuallyseeing patients of pets, right
(04:22):
You're're?
You're no longer treating pets.
So how, dr jason, here's aquestion if you're no longer
treating pets, um, uh, how doyou, how do you know that that
supplement is is a thing, right,that you should be?
Let's just take cancer causeyou treat cancer a lot in pets.
(04:44):
How do we know that that'sreally what is going to be
beneficial or not?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Right, that's a great .
It's a great question because Idon't think.
I don't think you do know,unless you're actually working
with patients and seeing thesethings in real life.
Cause, even if there's researchstudies to support things, who
did the research?
Who paid for the research?
How was the research done?
How many doctors studied?
Cause I can tell you, cancer isall over the map, unpredictable
(05:15):
.
I mean, it could take 10 petswith a similar diagnosis and you
could treat them all the sameway and you're going to have all
different outcomes because it'sbiology, they're just all very
different and sometimes, likeproducts are promoted as being,
oh, this is like the panacea.
You know, we've heard thisabout.
(05:38):
You know, after, after COVID,so we heard more about
fenbendazole and ivermectin,these antiparasitics, and now,
like, oh, that's just the thing,if there was one thing that
killed cancer or took care ofcancer, we wouldn't have cancer,
right?
But and I'm sure, on everysingle one of these supplements,
whatever they're saying they'retreating, it's probably worked
really, really well in somecases.
(06:00):
But you're also not getting thewhole story.
So, say, there's a certainproduct that's supposed to treat
cancer and it's wonderful, andthere's even testimonials of
people that have used it, butthey don't say what else did
they do?
What were they feeding?
Did they change the diet, werethey doing?
Because most people that gooutside the conventional
(06:21):
treatment route are doingmultiple things.
They're not just doing onething, it's always a combination
of things, and I think that petparents, to some degree, can
have a very good intuition onwhat's good for their pet.
But what's good for their petis not going to be good for
everybody else's pet it's.
It's not a one size fits all.
(06:44):
So to promote things forcertain causes, when there are
certain conditions, when you'renot, you know, boots on the
ground, really evaluating thepatients, I think it'd be a real
disservice.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Well, it's just a crapshoot a little bit, right,
it's like.
And I do wonder if the thoughtis, well, it's not going to hurt
him, right, so it's not goingto hurt him, so I'm going to go
ahead and promote it.
But yeah, you know, it's afunny thing.
(07:22):
This marketing, right, themarketing out there Marketing,
is what sells everything.
Because if it was actually theresults right, so if it, then
raw food, right, should be likethe only thing that any animal
eats, because you can see theresults.
(07:44):
You can.
There's.
I don't know any pet parent thatdid not see a result.
Now let me a positive resultfrom going from kibble to raw.
Are there people that will saymy dog couldn't eat raw?
(08:05):
And I will say, well, what?
Tell me how you were doing it.
And there are so many thingsthat I could tweak about how
they were doing it, you know andchange that outcome like sloppy
poops, right.
People are like, who was Italking to the other day?
Somebody said, yes, I used tofeed raw.
(08:26):
I was, but I was getting all ofmy food from the butcher and
they just had diarrhea and I waslike, well, was there bone in
there?
Did you do any bone?
No, no, I'm like, well, there'sa problem, right, so.
But my point is if, if, ifmarketing had to be based solely
(08:47):
on the fact that you sawamazing results, then raw would
be off the charts, becausethere's no way you don't get a
better result in a human or apet by taking out processed
foods, that's impossible.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yet the propaganda from conventional vets is that
raw is, is is causing all thisdisease because of the evil
bacteria and parasites andeverything in it.
So it's like it's the opposite,like we know that raw has this
tremendous advantage.
Yet the popular propaganda wasoh no, this is bacteria and you
know cancer patients can isbacteria and you know cancer
(09:26):
patients can't eat.
You know they can't eat thatraw because all that bacteria in
there.
So the propaganda is also hasthe big influence on the
negative side.
It's like reverse marketing why?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
why do people say I'm gonna ask you this on the human
side first.
Why do people say I'm going toask you this on the human side
first?
Why do people say if you eatraw meat okay, raw hamburger
meat you're going to get worms?
Why do they say that, dr Jasekand I'm talking about organic
(10:00):
raw hamburger meat from thegrocery store already packaged
if I eat that raw, put a littlesalt on it, am I going to get
worms popping out my sphincter?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I doubt it, but it's probably because it happened
once.
Maybe somebody one time sawworms on raw food, like 200
years ago or something like along time ago, you know, because
the industry didn't used to be,you know, clean like if you're
buying grocery store meat it'sinspected and all that stuff.
(10:38):
Um, you know pork.
I still have people ask me, ohall the time, is pork safe?
No, we would, yeah and dirty.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I always say this we wouldn't sell it if it was going
to hurt the dogs.
But then I think but the vetsdo, but the vets do.
I mean they, they, and so dothe grocery stores.
I don't just have to single outthe vets, but if we're talking
about people that should beadvising on pet health, they
(11:14):
sell a product that is not goodfor your pet.
So I'm like I could say that,but that's not true in the
entire industry.
But no, I wouldn't sell it ifit was bad for the dogs.
Yeah, let me give you some port.
That's going to, you know,totally wipe out my entire
customer base.
It seems like it would be badfor business.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
So why doesn't that happen?
How do the vets get away withthat?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Because they finance both sides of the war.
Right, it doesn't matter if itmakes them sick, because they're
not going to think it's youright, so you can come in with
the solution.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You've got the you just need a white coat, dd, and,
like a stethoscope, you need awhite coat instead of your red
shirt.
And then, oh, dd's got a whitecoat, so that makes that means
she's smart and she wouldn't doanything there right now.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I know people that that you know, they just get a
doctorate in something that'sreal basic and then they call
themselves a doctor andeverybody goes oh, they're super
smart, yeah, I should have donethat.
Why?
Why?
Why wasn't I smart enough to dothat, dr jasic, like get a, get
, something like that, so that?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
you elevate my position because you're too
smart to waste your time goingto school and getting a
meaningless degree.
You're like, okay, well, Ididn't mean it that way.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
No, I meant I didn't mean that what I I'm not talking
about a medical DR.
I'm talking about, like, jillBiden, what's her D, what's her
doctor?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's like it's not a doctor like you, I know, I know,
I know what you mean, but it'sstill a waste of time.
I mean, you still have to puttime into going and doing that
and and you know it's, it's alot of time just to get some
initials.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I don't know, Maybe it pays off big time.
Maybe people would not questionyou about your pork.
You know what I should havedone.
I should have got the doctoratein something you know that
didn't require me to go toschool that much, and also got
my reverend's license, Cause youcan get that online.
Just go online.
Reverend Didi.
Reverend Dr.
(13:15):
Reverend Dr.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Everybody would believe what she's saying.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I would be so rich.
If your Bible of raw feeding, Iwould be so rich.
You have your Bible of rawfeeding.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It would be.
That would be.
I just gave somebody an idea.
Pretty soon we're going to findsomebody out there.
There'll be a Reverend and adoctor selling something.
Nobody's questioning that, yeah, so crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Back to the, to the meat industry.
In the pork, you know, I thinkthere are definitely
circumstances where animals arenot raised in a healthy
environment and people would seethat and I think that probably
at one point was maybe true withthe pork.
They weren't raised in ahealthy environment.
Now, pigs are dirty animals.
(14:01):
They really do like to layaround in the dirt and wallow in
the mud.
That's their happy life, butthat doesn't mean that they're
dirty on the inside.
If they're leading a good,they're getting a good diet and
they're, you know, managed in away that they're healthy, not
not just, you know, in whatthey're eating, but a healthy,
(14:24):
you know.
You know their emotionalenvironment and they're in in
the correct environment so theirbodies aren't stressed.
You know they're going to behealthy.
I really think things likeparasites.
You know they show up when theanimals stress.
They don't show up in inhealthy animals.
I've been, I'm reading a lotabout rudolph steiner and his
(14:46):
philosophies, anthroposophicmedicine I've been studying and
you know he most of this, mostof his writings, were still
about people, because I think hedied at like 64 years old, um,
before he could write a lotabout, a lot about animals.
But you know his wholephilosophy is that you know
(15:07):
there's a spirit, is definitelya spiritual aspect to humans and
also to the animals, and youhave to be addressing not just
the physical but the emotionaland spiritual aspects.
What's the best lifestyle forthem?
What's healthy?
Dogs are not meant to live incrates eight or 10 hours a day.
(15:27):
You know they're not justevening or weekend entertainment
and you know I've seen that alot.
And then people wonder why theyhave behavior problems and they
aren't socialized and all ofthat you know well.
It's the same for our livestockproducers you know, pig
production production.
I remember, even when I was invet school, which was like like
a whole other lifetime ago now,um, we go visit these pig
(15:51):
facility you have to put on likea gown and and uh, booties and
stuff.
They're practically sterile andthese poor pigs, they just,
they're just in, like where theypharaoh them, where the um, the
pigs have their little piglets.
They're just in these crates.
They don't ever move.
Oh, my gosh, it's, it'shorrible.
They're clean, but thoseanimals and you know why they
(16:14):
have to keep them so clean isbecause those animals are so
stressed they don't even let.
Like they allow the piglets tonurse.
I think they have.
Like, they have the pigs ongrates and the piglets are
underneath because the pigs arebig and they'll crush their
piglets.
So the piglets are actuallyunderneath so that they can
nurse, but they don't get to,like, you know, snuggle up to
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mom or anything like that.
Well, those animals are sostressed that you know they have
to do all this disinfecting andeverything because they're
going to get, you know, they'regoing to get.
Parasites show up when theanimals are stressed and they're
not in a natural environment.
You take a pig outside.
We've got a family we know thatraises.
You know forested pigs and youdrive by their place and the
(17:02):
pigs are out in their littlepens, out in the woods all
around the mud.
You know it's that's what pigsdo fight part from them.
And right, it's delicious andit's wonderful and you know I
would feed it to a pet, I Idon't personally care for raw
pork so I've never eaten it raw,but I don't think it would be
(17:25):
dangerous, right okay, youwouldn't know the truth, though.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I love raw hamburger meat.
I love it, yeah, yeah, and Iwill eat it raw and put salt on
it, and I'll eat it raw and Ieat raw bacon sometimes because
my dad used to raw bacon now,I've never tried that yeah and
fatty, but but good fat right,yeah, good fat yeah we buy good
(17:54):
quality stuff, no sugar, any ofthat stuff yeah.
So people will be like, oh, sogreat.
So I guess for me, I look at,you know, the farmer's dog.
I look at all these differentconcocted, balanced meals out
there for animals and I'm likethis is a bunch of caca, it's a
(18:15):
story, it's a dogma, it's a wayto sell product.
How do we, as humans, even livefor very many years?
(18:35):
Because we're not reallybalancing our food, dr jacek.
I mean, we're not keepingspreadsheets on how we are
balancing out all of ourmagnesium and our folic acid and
you know all of stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
All you got to do is just take that multivitamin
every day.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
There it is, there it is.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Take the multivitamin and that's what they teach
people about pets is if you justput the, you know, or just put
the multivitamin in the food andthen you don't have to worry
about it.
It's all a bunch of syntheticchemicals that they're eating
but and it doesn't mean it'shealthy.
But it makes pet parents feelbetter because they got all
those chemicals on the bag thatthey can't pronounce and that
(19:11):
makes them feel like they'regiving their pet something
nutritious.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So when you use a balancing formulator, you're
looking at food.
You're not looking at the pet.
You're looking at food.
And yeah, so is it true that ifyou fed said food that was
(19:43):
supposedly void of saidnutrition, and you fed that for
its entire life, how does thatshow up in the pet?
I don't know.
Have we done those studies?
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
and how do they know how much of each of those
nutrients that a pet needs,because it could be different
for every pet too.
Some pets might need more thanothers.
That's why, if you do therotation and the different
organs and I think where peopledo get into trouble with raw,
you know it's like you said well, they go to the butcher and
they're getting some meat, maybesome organs, and they got runny
(20:17):
poops.
Well, they're not feeding anybone.
You know, if they're notbalancing it and they're not
rotating it, it isn't going tobe nutritious.
But if you're adding in, youknow, some fish and some egg and
you're rotating the differentproteins and all the different
organs, including the brains andthe eyes and anything you can,
you know, get, get your hands on, I mean, are the wolves out
(20:41):
there.
Okay, let's get out thespreadsheet.
Last week we had an elk.
Now, let's see that's going tomake me a little deficient, and
let's see, a little deficient inzinc.
So maybe we better go catchsome salmon this week, otherwise
we're going to be out ofbalance.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
And when you say balance it, what you mean is
let's put variety.
That's all it really means.
It's like yeah, that's variety,a lot of variety.
Okay, so I, I get it.
That big pet food has reallyconvinced pet parents.
As long as you feed this samefood, you're not going to have
any digestive issues.
(21:20):
So, right, there's that fear oflike you're not going to have
any digestive issues.
So there's that fear of like,oh, I'm going to throw my dog
out of whack and they're goingto have diarrhea.
And I tell pet parents this allthe time.
Diarrhea is pretty easy to fixwithout medication, unless it's
just like you know, a superrunny red and you're squirting
it out the sphincter.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It's.
For me it's like it's supereasy to fix, you know, unless
the gut's been really reallybadly damaged with like too many
medications and stuff.
But then you know, we knowthere's a reason for it and the
gut needs a little, a littleextra help.
But it can still be fixed andit's not because of the food can
still be fixed, and it's notbecause of the food, I think.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I think what worries you and I about these type of
situations, where pet parentswant to manage all of these
different nutrients, istypically what happens is you
concentrate on one at thedetriment of another or many
others, and then you're in thiscatch 22.
And so people are like well,what's the solution?
The solution is to feed themvaried proteins, organs and
(22:33):
bones, and you can either dothat yourself, which is
extremely time consuming, or youcan buy those already made
right.
And I would say you know,you've got the pick of turkey
and beef and chicken and duckand lamb, you know.
(22:53):
And pork salmon, you've got.
We've got at Raw Dog Food andCompany, we've got.
We've got, uh, at raw dog foodand company.
You, we've got pork brains,we've got duck feet, chicken
feet, uh, turkey hearts, chickenhearts I'm talking about the
pieces now uh and the organ andthe organ blends, which makes it
really easy because I love toadd an extra organ.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
it's just so easy, got the blend all and the
variety.
That's when people say, oh, Ireally want to do it on my own.
I'm like, okay, well, find outwhere you can get spleen and
kidney and lung and heart andliver.
And when you can find all thoseorgans, then you know, we'll
talk about putting together.
Oh yeah, and how are you goingto grind up the bone?
And, you know, put the bone inthere.
(23:35):
Because what a lot of peoplethink is what we were talking
about last week in the foodpyramid.
People extrapolate what's beensaid for many years about humans
to pets.
Oh, we'll just add some riceand some veggies in with the
chicken and then that's abalanced diet because that's
what I'm supposed to eat, somust be good, right, Like no, no
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, it's really really hard tobalance it out and do it
properly.
And the other thing is fats.
I used to test a lot forvitamin D and I found a lot of
dogs were low vitamin D.
How can you question thetesting a bit?
Is that another justmoney-making thing?
(24:17):
There's companies that justkeep coming out with more and
more and more and more and moretests.
I'm not saying that this is thecase, but is there a?
You know how accurate are thetests and how do we know what's
the level that a pet needs?
But if you take something likevitamin D, well, it's a fat
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soluble vitamin.
Where do you find it In the fat?
What are people afraid offeeding?
Probably more than anything thefat, because it's going to
cause pancreatitis.
And there's all this stuffabout oh, you can't feed, you
can't feed fat.
So why don't we just startadding some extra fat in, not
worry about, you know, doing allthe testing, because you're
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going to be getting your fatsoluble vitamins Plus.
You want those fat solublevitamins.
Nutrients are meant to beingested together because they
work synergistically in the body.
So if you're just supplementingone, you could be throwing off
that balance, especially ifthey're getting enough of some
of them naturally and thenyou're throwing in a synthetic,
how do you know they're going toplay nice together in your
(25:23):
pet's body?
You know you don't just feedthem fat.
Get some calories, some lard.
You know the lady that we knowthat raises pork.
She makes lard soap.
So I got lard soap from her.
It's wonderful.
It's like creamy and it doesn'tdry out your skin and there's a
little lavender in it?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Where does she get that from her pigs?
Is it pig lard?
Yeah, yeah, wow.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, yeah, cause I've been using tallow soap.
I really really sensitive skin,I mean, and I'm just really
even like natural soaps andstuff like my skin will get
irritated, and so I've beenusing tallow soap and then she
told me she was making soap uh,rillard and I'm like no, she has
.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
When she processes her pig, she has it in the lard,
made into, made into soap youknow what I I think you could do
with those bacon strips thatyou eat the raw bacon strips,
you just put them on your facejust put them on my face before
I eat them and they're like whatare you doing?
I'm doing a.
I'm doing a facial a baconfacial the new spa.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
You know where.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Ladies are laying there with strips of bacon on
their face and then you go homeand your husband's like man you
smell good, I'm hungry, sohungry.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
What's that new perfume man?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
gosh, I know, yeah, but but you know, I guess, dr
jaycey, if, if, if, businesseswant to grow, they got to invent
things to sell you right?
Because just, I've just come tobelieve that the more simple it
is, the less that people wantto really do it.
(27:08):
Now that seems backwards, youknow, but honestly, what we see
is people like to make it hardon themselves Because it just
it's like, well, that can't beall there is to it, that can't
really work, that can't be thiseasy to feed raw.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Well, you know we've talked about health is the
natural state of the body.
You don't, we don't createhealth.
You know people want to believeI got to make my pet healthy or
I got to make myself healthy.
Health is a natural state.
The question is, what isinterfering with our pet's
(27:53):
health and what do we have tochange so that they can go back
to their natural state?
That's like if I have a newpatient come in and they're on a
whole bunch of supplements Ihad a case like this today.
I'm like dog was presentingwith some really odd symptoms
and it was on an exorbitantamount of supplements, but
several, and they all hadmultiple ingredients.
I'm like we just got to getdown to basics and let's just
(28:16):
focus on the diet, like just fortwo weeks, just stop everything
.
And let's just focus on thediet.
Like just for two weeks, juststop everything and let's just
focus on the really goodnutrition.
And we see what happens, causeI want to see what.
What's your pet's body going totell us when we do that?
Cause you just don't know, evenif they're good quality
supplements, they could besensitive to something.
Ingredients could beinteracting.
(28:38):
Nobody knows how all thesedifferent ingredients could
interact with each other.
And maybe we're just given toomuch stuff and the body just is
working too hard, you know, toto process it.
So I think we do have tosometimes take a step back and
just get down to basics and thensee what we notice.
And then you know there'salways more stuff we can do.
(29:01):
But I think it's very easy forpeople to go down the rabbit
hole of, you know, searchingonline for supplements for
whatever the the diagnosis is,and then they want to, they want
to do something.
So they just start ordering allkinds of stuff and there's
plenty of stuff out there forthem to, for them to order to
(29:23):
treat their.
They probably order hundreds ofsupplements to treat something
like cancer, but then, you know,but then they don't have
success and then they're alittle hesitant to like stop all
the stuff.
So yeah, I actually thinkhealth is quite simple.
We feed an appropriate diet andwe don't give them toxins.
We're kind of most of the waythere.
(29:47):
It's just we have sometimes,you know, historically I mean,
I've heard people say on thehuman side that one round of
antibiotics and it can take sixto 12 months for the gut to heal
.
So these pets that have hadround after round after round,
their guts are going to bedamaged for a while.
They might always have.
Their guts might always be alittle more sensitive, so they
(30:10):
might need a little extrasupport getting, you know,
transition to a raw diet.
But you know, disease is causedby toxicity.
I mean, that's what I stillcontend that it's the poisons
that we put in their body thatmakes them sick.
It's not the raw food and it's,you know, emotional toxicity.
(30:35):
You know the house.
You know we're talking aboutthe emotional part.
Do they have the rightlifestyle?
You know, are they getting outfor exercise?
Know we're talking about theemotional part.
Do they have the rightlifestyle?
You know, are they getting outfor exercise and walks and
getting their feet on the groundand and all that stuff that's
important for pets just like itis for us.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I was talking with a nurse, a male nurse actually, he
was a doctor and and I said,how is it that mentally to to
work for a place like mayo right, where you see so many cancers,
(31:11):
so many different cancers?
I said, does that ever playwith your head like you're just
afraid because you see all thesedifferent cancers?
And he said you know, whenyou're going through school, and
he and he and he and he had aword for it, he was like half
truths or half knowledge,something like that.
And he said you look at it andyou go oh my gosh, you know,
(31:36):
I've got that, I've got thatsymptom, I've got this symptom,
I've got that symptom.
And he said and you can scareyourself to death, right.
And and he said, but the moreyou're around it, the more
knowledge.
You said, there, there aredefinitely some signs, right, he
said, but here's the thing,there are things that are in our
(31:58):
control.
And he said diet.
He's the first person I'veheard talk about it.
He said diet is in our control.
Now he was more on the PT sidewhere he his sort of specialty
was vestibular um, neurologicalthings for people who had
(32:18):
strokes and all this kind ofstuff.
But I was so shocked that hesaid it.
He was like no kidding, youknow, but but I don't know if he
talks to his patients about it.
He was saying for himself.
He said I'm going to do all thethings that I know can give you
(32:42):
a leg up.
He said diet, exercise, sleepand your mental outlook.
And you know, he didn't go asfar as saying, you know, like we
say, don't put toxins in yourbody.
But it was pretty interestingthat he said that.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I was like wow somebody actually said that Will
we eat actually affects ourhealth.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Do you know what I mean?
I there are.
There are nutritionists withincancer clinics.
However, I've talked about iton this podcast before some of
the information that theyespouse when I've asked for the
actual studies for that, like,do you have a study for that?
(33:35):
You know, like you can't eatraw food and vegetables or any
type of sushi if you're a cancerpatient because that could
cause you to get some type ofbacteria.
And I'm like what, what youknow?
First of all, I told you that.
(33:55):
I said what, what bacteria arewe talking about?
Told you that is.
I said what, what bacteria arewe talking about?
The top three e-coli, listeriaand salmonella?
I said, well, so if you're sickor you have cancer, you can't
cook your own food anymore.
Is that what you're saying?
You know, because you can'ttouch it.
(34:18):
And I'm like, oh, where's I?
I'm never.
I mean, is there a study?
And they will say this stuffwithout any kind of Studies that
go with that.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Right, Because it's the, it's the, it's the popular
narrative, it's what everybodysays Don't, don't touch the raw
food.
And yeah, how do you the rawfood?
And yeah, how do you even bringfood into your house, like you
said.
Oh, so you can't ever cook yourown food, or somebody's not
there to cook your own food orcook your food for you.
Like it doesn't even make anysense.
No, but then they'll push theinsure or the, this other stuff
(34:57):
that's just got high fructosecorn syrup.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's okay.
They were very it was veryfunny.
They were offended that wewould make our own food from
real food instead of choosingthe chemical laden, approved
(35:23):
cancer you know foods that werevery offend and and wanted to.
You know, do you?
Are you getting the rightcalories?
Are you getting the right this?
Are you getting the right?
I'm certain that it's betterthan your chemical stuff.
And, by the way, why do yousell this chemical stuff?
Because this is what insuranceapproves of.
(35:45):
And when I finally I've saidthis before when I said why
won't insurance approve a realfood diet, not chemical diet,
especially for cancer patients?
And they said it's all aboutmoney.
Yeah, but at least she said itand she acknowledged it.
(36:08):
What was so offensive to me arethe folks that don't question
it and yet question you becauseyou want to do something
healthier.
It was very strange.
I was like why would you, whywould you want to look over my
shoulder and check it's realfood?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Right, right.
How can that be bad?
How can that be unhealthy ascompared to all the, you know,
chemical stuff?
Yeah, I bet all those companiesare just all in cahoots.
You know there's like bigcompanies that you know own the
insurance companies and and thepeople making the insurer or
(36:49):
whatever making all that food.
You know, it's all justprobably one big corporate
conglomerate and they're justfeeding off of each other yeah,
I even heard um, I, I, and I'mpretty sure that this has been
studied.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
One of the nutritionists said don't worry
about.
Basically, the dogma was youjust need the calories, don't
worry about if it's coming froma milkshake.
Because this was what they saidSugar doesn't feed cancer.
(37:30):
I said how is it then that insome cancer places the more
holistic ones they want to bringyour blood sugar level down
right before they give you achemo blast, because there's a
(37:52):
certain?
They want those cells thatuptake the glucose to be hungry
and then take up the chemo,right, and supposedly kill them.
So I'm like, which is it?
Is it that?
Is it that that's all bullshit,or this is all bullshit?
Which side is the sphincter on?
You know, I'm just like come on, so what'd they say?
(38:15):
You know what?
They always divert theconversation and give you an
answer Right.
And when you're in there withsomebody who's not feeling well,
the last thing you want to dois start a fight with your
doctor, right?
(38:35):
You want them on your side.
Yeah, you, you just likewaiters, right?
So you don't want to start afight with somebody who's in the
back preparing your food.
I promise you that you know whatthey're going to do to that
food before they bring it right,bring it out right but but I
just you know, I've learned tokind of which is not my nature,
dr Jacey to gently ask thequestion, go kind of under the
(38:56):
radar to see what the answer isgoing to be.
So it's all.
It's all very confusing, butone thing that isn't confusing
and I just don't know if any ofyou listening can argue, argue
with this statement, then sendit to us.
We'd love to hear it.
Real food is not dangerous,okay, especially now.
(39:21):
Let me let me preface this okayin a variety, in, in, in
combination, right?
So I wouldn't say all you caneat is liver for the rest of
your life and be fine.
That's not what I'm saying,right?
What I'm saying is that in anydiet, I don't eat the same thing
every single day.
(39:43):
Even if I'm on one of thesecarnivore diets or paleo diets
or whatever, there's still goingto be variety in there,
different meats.
I'm just not going to eat baconevery day, right, I wouldn't
eat bacon every day, but I mighteat ramen a lot.
But anyway, I'm just saying avariety, variety, variety of
(40:05):
stuff and real food.
You're going to be way ahead ofthe game, uh, for you and your
pets.
Drop the processed foods and,trust me, there's so much of it
out there that you'll be like Idon't know what I can eat if I,
you know, drop the processedfoods, because most of the aisle
(40:27):
in the grocery store, most ofthe aisles are processed foods,
yep, yep, most of them are.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
You have to eat things that don't have labels.
And you know even the I watcheda podcast on the whole organic
industry and I figured that apart of that was kind of a farce
, that they're not reallywatching that closely.
So organic food at the grocerystore, you know, may not be
truly organic or they can spraythings on them prior to shipment
and all this stuff Probablystill better than buying
(40:55):
conventional food.
But at least eating real foodis better than buying something
that you know you take out of abox and add boiling water and
have your instant dinner.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, exactly Exactly .
Have your instant dinner?
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
So it's just, it's just.
We just need to not be soafraid to give our pets variety
and raw right.
This is the thing.
Don't be so afraid.
And if you are afraid, I wouldencourage you to ask the
(41:31):
questions why, right?
Why am I so afraid to feed pork?
You know what?
Where?
Where did this narrative comefrom?
Where is it really an issue?
When has it been an issue?
How was it tested?
How, how was that?
You know, those two things cometogether right, and it's these
little people.
I think I remember you sayingthis, dr Jasek.
(41:54):
Didn't you say let me ask you,if you said this if your dog is
going to get worms from eating araw diet, it would have to be
because a dog with worms poopedon your dog's food and then your
(42:15):
dog ate it.
Was that right?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I did say that I think I did say that Right,
because parasites are speciesspecific for the most part, so
they're not going to get aparasite.
If there was some kind ofparasite living in the meat it's
going to likely just pass rightthrough the dog.
But if a dog with parasitespooped on the raw food and the
(42:38):
dog ate it, then you know itcould get it from the other dog.
So, yes, I do believe I saidthat.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
You know, there is no way that Lazi is going to let
any dog poop on her food.
She eats it so fast that itcouldn't even get in a squat
position before her food be gone.
I'm just saying you know right?
Speaker 2 (42:57):
plus she's probably a little more discriminating than
that.
It's like don't poop on my foodshe's funny.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
She carries her toy right and I say toy it's, it's
one of the grappies, it's a.
You know, they're, uh, they're,they're material, they're in a
ball form and they have a littlehandle and you throw them.
They're for training purposes,but she loves those and we have
all different sizes and she'llgrab one.
Here's like, okay, we're goingfor right, let me grab one.
And typically it's notsomething that we like to let
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her carry one of those all thetime, but because we do here,
because she loves to eat theduck poop.
So if she has her toys shewon't eat the duck poop.
But what she does is thatshe'll carry her toy and then
she's got to poop.
So she puts the toy down andthen she poops very close to
(43:50):
where the toy is and then she'slike I'm not picking that toy.
She does that and I have tokick it and then she'll go get
it.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
She's like can you, can you like scoot it away it
smells over there like would youplease pick up my poop so I can
get my toy Right.
They got it made, don't they?
We put food in their bowls.
Pick up their poop, buy themtoys Like oh, it's got it made.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Rub their bellies Right, except for those that are
in cages all day long and theydon't have it made.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
No, that's not good, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
So it's just, it's the wonderful pet parents that
make it wonderful for their dogs.
You know, and that's hopefullythat's the majority I cannot I
cannot, dr jaycey, watch thosecommercials where they're like
these dogs don't know wheretheir next meal is coming from.
So we ask you to donate.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
I'm just like turning I know I can't watch those
either.
It's it's heartbreaking and Iknow that's like a reality.
I know that's out there, butyeah, I that that is just
horrific.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Oh, and God bless those people who go out there
and rescue those dogs.
You know and I can see.
I can certainly see where thatcould turn out to be a hoarding
type situation, because I wouldbe one of those people.
I'd be like, nope, I don'ttrust anybody to have this dog
right I don't want them to everbe in that situation.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
You know they're running out of space and they
gotta euthanize some of themright, and they just because
they don't have the room youknow, wait, wait, a minute, wait
a minute.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
wasn't that what they were trying to do to us running
, running out of room?
We got to euthanize some ofy'all.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
I think they still are.
I think they still are.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Oh, I heard today this is true fact.
I was calling Walgreens.
On the recording it said peopleover the age of something, I
don't know.
I think they said 50.
I can't remember the exact age,but they were like are more
susceptible to the COVID disease, so you can come and get your
(45:59):
boosters today.
I was like are you serious?
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Are you still on that train?
Yeah, I wonder if people stillactually get those boosters.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I'm sure, I'm sure they probably do.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
The doctor recommends it yeah, oh, I was just like
what and and, while you're at it, get your flu shot and your
shingle shot and your pneumoniashot and pneumococca.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
What is it called pneumococcus?
Yeah, give me the caca shot.
All right, everybody listen.
You could work with dr judyjasic.
Uh, why?
Because you get a secondopinion that is very broad, very
wide in wide, in depth and verydeep in the knowledge of what's
(46:55):
going on in the world, how vetsare trained, how they sell
products, you know what's reallygood for the, what's necessary.
I think the money that you savepeople right by saying this is
really not necessary, rightMakes raw food much more
affordable if you stop doing allthe other stuff that is
actually poisoning your pet.
(47:15):
Put that money towards raw food,probably saving money right,
right and uh, you know, get overto dr jc.
You can find her team at a h avetcom.
A h a vetcom.
A second opinion whether that'sgoing to be on cancer, removing
lipomas, gut issues, the allencompassing.
(47:35):
My dog has allergy issues.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Or even just even just wellness.
We actually got a little likeApril wellness special.
So instead of running into yourvet for the wellness checkup
where they're just going to sellyou on a bunch of poisons, you
can come talk to us and we cantell you how to get to keep your
pet healthy, naturally, withoutdoing all that stuff so that's
fantastic.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
70, 70 bucks.
I like it, I, I, I didn't evenknow.
So we just announced somethingright now a true wellness.
See, this is.
This is great.
That's, that's amazing.
I love that.
I love that.
Um, get over there.
And, uh, you won't be puttingtoxins in your dog's body.
(48:19):
After that wellness checkup Ican tell you, okay, nope, nope,
uh, all right, get over to rawdog food and companycom.
Listen.
Every wednesday night, uh, andnow it's four o'clock for
mountain time to midnight.
We have a sale and we have abig sale.
And I'm talking we have food,we have bones, we have treats,
(48:42):
uh, we have supplements drjace's favorite.
So we have them all and they goon sale on Wednesday nights.
And we do this why?
Because we don't really havethe all you know, like the
rewards program.
We don't have the buy this muchand you get this much off.
So we made it super simple,because I think what people
(49:04):
don't really understand is thatcuts into your profits, because
all of those companies do take aportion of your sales, and so
companies have to build thatback in.
So we said how can we make rawfood fair and affordable across
the board, whether you have five, you know 75 pound dogs or five
(49:26):
10 pound dogs, right, and so,anyway, we do this on Wednesday
from four to midnight.
So you want to get over to rawdog food and company?
I can't believe.
Yeah, I'm not even going to saythat.
Anyway, raw dog food andcompanycom, where your pet's
health is our business, and whatDr Jasek?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Friends, don't let friends feed, kibble y'all,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
We'll see you next week, everybody, if you have a
question, shoot it over to usand we will answer right here.
See you then, bye Bye.
Well, hello raw feeders.
I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, ceoof Raw Dog Food Company, where
your pet's health is ourbusiness and where friends like
my friend Dr Judy Jasik doesn'tlet friends feed kibble.
Why not Come on?
Don't you want to make themoney that you could make?
Dr Jason, are you crazy?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Guess, so Guess.
I'm crazy Because it'd be aheck of a lot easier to just say
yeah, just feed those, as yousay, the cakey cakey, the cakey
Cookies, cakes and donuts andall that stuff.
Just feed them the Fruit Loops.
Yeah, cookies, cakes andchemicals, cookies, cakes and
donuts and all that stuff Justbeing in the Froot Loops.
Yeah, cookies, cakes andchemicals, and cookies, cakes
and chemicals.
And then you make a lot ofmoney off of them.
(00:50):
You know being sick Greatbusiness model.
Yeah, but you know we're outhere promoting raw, so your pets
can be healthy.
They don't even have to go tothat.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
And then people look at you like are you crazy?
And I'm like, well, I don'tknow.
I've only been this only my25th year.
You'd think I would havefigured out by now that I'm
crazy if I am.
But every single person I willtell you that has a raw fed dog.
I bet you, if they keep themslim and they're not overfeeding
(01:25):
them, I bet you that people sayyour dog looks amazing.
Because we get that all thetime, all the time Right, and
because there is a verydifferent look when your dog in
the same thing with people, whenwhen your dog's not getting um,
(01:46):
good nutrition.
I was, I was watching peoplethe other day.
Well, I watch people all thetime it's pretty entertaining
actually yes, but I was likethere is such a parallel between
the humans and the animals,right in this respect, that
humans limp and they walk with awaddle and they've got these
(02:10):
bellies not not all of them, butjust.
You know, I'm looking around atpeople and they're not
bright-eyed and they're nottoned and I was just like that
is.
Dogs are the same way.
You see them starting to limp.
You know their toenails aren'tcut.
Their body aches, they're outof shape, their hair's falling
(02:34):
out.
They smell.
I don't know if these peoplesmelled.
I didn't get that close.
Excuse me, do you stink?
Okay, I'm going to go off on atangent real quick.
I've noticed that all of thedeodorant companies are now
promoting that you put deodorantall over your body, not just
under your arms, but in everycrevice.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I'm just like what has happened.
I don't know, Do people stinkmore or they just want to sell
more deodorant?
I don't know.
They're like people stink moreor they just want to sell more
to you I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But I said the other day I was like what is it with
all these companies?
They're like I can put thiseverywhere on the bottom of my
feet and the back of my knees,you know, under my arms.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I was just like.
I guess they don't want us tosmell like humans, maybe.
Maybe then we're unrecognizableor something, or they just want
to sell more product.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
There you go, ding, ding, ding, ding ding, which is
something that we see all thetime in the pet world.
It doesn't I?
I'm not sure why people thinkif it's on TV or it's in the vet
clinic that it's all good foryour animal.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Right, or even on a podcast from certain people.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Right, and we typically don't name names, but
I will say that people probablyknow who you know, who things
who were talking about in incertain circles.
But there are a lot ofsupplement pushers.
Push, push, push thesupplements because you may not,
you may no longer be actuallyseeing patients of pets, right
(04:22):
You're're?
You're no longer treating pets.
So how, dr jason, here's aquestion if you're no longer
treating pets, um, uh, how doyou, how do you know that that
supplement is is a thing, right,that you should be?
Let's just take cancer causeyou treat cancer a lot in pets.
(04:44):
How do we know that that'sreally what is going to be
beneficial or not?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Right, that's a great .
It's a great question because Idon't think.
I don't think you do know,unless you're actually working
with patients and seeing thesethings in real life.
Cause, even if there's researchstudies to support things, who
did the research?
Who paid for the research?
How was the research done?
How many doctors studied?
Cause I can tell you, cancer isall over the map, unpredictable
(05:15):
.
I mean, it could take 10 petswith a similar diagnosis and you
could treat them all the sameway and you're going to have all
different outcomes because it'sbiology, they're just all very
different and sometimes, likeproducts are promoted as being,
oh, this is like the panacea.
You know, we've heard thisabout.
(05:38):
You know, after, after COVID,so we heard more about
fenbendazole and ivermectin,these antiparasitics, and now,
like, oh, that's just the thing,if there was one thing that
killed cancer or took care ofcancer, we wouldn't have cancer,
right?
But and I'm sure, on everysingle one of these supplements,
whatever they're saying they'retreating, it's probably worked
really, really well in somecases.
(06:00):
But you're also not getting thewhole story.
So, say, there's a certainproduct that's supposed to treat
cancer and it's wonderful, andthere's even testimonials of
people that have used it, butthey don't say what else did
they do?
What were they feeding?
Did they change the diet, werethey doing?
Because most people that gooutside the conventional
(06:21):
treatment route are doingmultiple things.
They're not just doing onething, it's always a combination
of things, and I think that petparents, to some degree, can
have a very good intuition onwhat's good for their pet.
But what's good for their petis not going to be good for
everybody else's pet it's.
It's not a one size fits all.
(06:44):
So to promote things forcertain causes, when there are
certain conditions, when you'renot, you know, boots on the
ground, really evaluating thepatients, I think it'd be a real
disservice.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Well, it's just a crapshoot a little bit, right,
it's like.
And I do wonder if the thoughtis, well, it's not going to hurt
him, right, so it's not goingto hurt him, so I'm going to go
ahead and promote it.
But yeah, you know, it's afunny thing.
(07:22):
This marketing, right, themarketing out there Marketing,
is what sells everything.
Because if it was actually theresults right, so if it, then
raw food, right, should be likethe only thing that any animal
eats, because you can see theresults.
(07:44):
You can.
There's.
I don't know any pet parent thatdid not see a result.
Now let me a positive resultfrom going from kibble to raw.
Are there people that will saymy dog couldn't eat raw?
(08:05):
And I will say, well, what?
Tell me how you were doing it.
And there are so many thingsthat I could tweak about how
they were doing it, you know andchange that outcome like sloppy
poops, right.
People are like, who was Italking to the other day?
Somebody said, yes, I used tofeed raw.
(08:26):
I was, but I was getting all ofmy food from the butcher and
they just had diarrhea and I waslike, well, was there bone in
there?
Did you do any bone?
No, no, I'm like, well, there'sa problem, right, so.
But my point is if, if, ifmarketing had to be based solely
(08:47):
on the fact that you sawamazing results, then raw would
be off the charts, becausethere's no way you don't get a
better result in a human or apet by taking out processed
foods, that's impossible.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yet the propaganda from conventional vets is that
raw is, is is causing all thisdisease because of the evil
bacteria and parasites andeverything in it.
So it's like it's the opposite,like we know that raw has this
tremendous advantage.
Yet the popular propaganda wasoh no, this is bacteria and you
know cancer patients can isbacteria and you know cancer
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patients can't eat.
You know they can't eat thatraw because all that bacteria in
there.
So the propaganda is also hasthe big influence on the
negative side.
It's like reverse marketing why?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
why do people say I'm gonna ask you this on the human
side first.
Why do people say I'm going toask you this on the human side
first?
Why do people say if you eatraw meat okay, raw hamburger
meat you're going to get worms?
Why do they say that, dr Jasekand I'm talking about organic
(10:00):
raw hamburger meat from thegrocery store already packaged
if I eat that raw, put a littlesalt on it, am I going to get
worms popping out my sphincter?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I doubt it, but it's probably because it happened
once.
Maybe somebody one time sawworms on raw food, like 200
years ago or something like along time ago, you know, because
the industry didn't used to be,you know, clean like if you're
buying grocery store meat it'sinspected and all that stuff.
(10:38):
Um, you know pork.
I still have people ask me, ohall the time, is pork safe?
No, we would, yeah and dirty.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I always say this we wouldn't sell it if it was going
to hurt the dogs.
But then I think but the vetsdo, but the vets do.
I mean they, they, and so dothe grocery stores.
I don't just have to single outthe vets, but if we're talking
about people that should beadvising on pet health, they
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sell a product that is not goodfor your pet.
So I'm like I could say that,but that's not true in the
entire industry.
But no, I wouldn't sell it ifit was bad for the dogs.
Yeah, let me give you some port.
That's going to, you know,totally wipe out my entire
customer base.
It seems like it would be badfor business.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
So why doesn't that happen?
How do the vets get away withthat?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Because they finance both sides of the war.
Right, it doesn't matter if itmakes them sick, because they're
not going to think it's youright, so you can come in with
the solution.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You've got the you just need a white coat, dd, and,
like a stethoscope, you need awhite coat instead of your red
shirt.
And then, oh, dd's got a whitecoat, so that makes that means
she's smart and she wouldn't doanything there right now.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I know people that that you know, they just get a
doctorate in something that'sreal basic and then they call
themselves a doctor andeverybody goes oh, they're super
smart, yeah, I should have donethat.
Why?
Why?
Why wasn't I smart enough to dothat, dr jasic, like get a, get
, something like that, so that?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
you elevate my position because you're too
smart to waste your time goingto school and getting a
meaningless degree.
You're like, okay, well, Ididn't mean it that way.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
No, I meant I didn't mean that what I I'm not talking
about a medical DR.
I'm talking about, like, jillBiden, what's her D, what's her
doctor?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's like it's not a doctor like you, I know, I know,
I know what you mean, but it'sstill a waste of time.
I mean, you still have to puttime into going and doing that
and and you know it's, it's alot of time just to get some
initials.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I don't know, Maybe it pays off big time.
Maybe people would not questionyou about your pork.
You know what I should havedone.
I should have got the doctoratein something you know that
didn't require me to go toschool that much, and also got
my reverend's license, Cause youcan get that online.
Just go online.
Reverend Didi.
Reverend Dr.
(13:15):
Reverend Dr.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Everybody would believe what she's saying.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I would be so rich.
If your Bible of raw feeding, Iwould be so rich.
You have your Bible of rawfeeding.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It would be.
That would be.
I just gave somebody an idea.
Pretty soon we're going to findsomebody out there.
There'll be a Reverend and adoctor selling something.
Nobody's questioning that, yeah, so crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Back to the, to the meat industry.
In the pork, you know, I thinkthere are definitely
circumstances where animals arenot raised in a healthy
environment and people would seethat and I think that probably
at one point was maybe true withthe pork.
They weren't raised in ahealthy environment.
Now, pigs are dirty animals.
(14:01):
They really do like to layaround in the dirt and wallow in
the mud.
That's their happy life, butthat doesn't mean that they're
dirty on the inside.
If they're leading a good,they're getting a good diet and
they're, you know, managed in away that they're healthy, not
not just, you know, in whatthey're eating, but a healthy,
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you know.
You know their emotionalenvironment and they're in in
the correct environment so theirbodies aren't stressed.
You know they're going to behealthy.
I really think things likeparasites.
You know they show up when theanimals stress.
They don't show up in inhealthy animals.
I've been, I'm reading a lotabout rudolph steiner and his
(14:46):
philosophies, anthroposophicmedicine I've been studying and
you know he most of this, mostof his writings, were still
about people, because I think hedied at like 64 years old, um,
before he could write a lotabout, a lot about animals.
But you know his wholephilosophy is that you know
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there's a spirit, is definitelya spiritual aspect to humans and
also to the animals, and youhave to be addressing not just
the physical but the emotionaland spiritual aspects.
What's the best lifestyle forthem?
What's healthy?
Dogs are not meant to live incrates eight or 10 hours a day.
(15:27):
You know they're not justevening or weekend entertainment
and you know I've seen that alot.
And then people wonder why theyhave behavior problems and they
aren't socialized and all ofthat you know well.
It's the same for our livestockproducers you know, pig
production production.
I remember, even when I was invet school, which was like like
a whole other lifetime ago now,um, we go visit these pig
(15:51):
facility you have to put on likea gown and and uh, booties and
stuff.
They're practically sterile andthese poor pigs, they just,
they're just in, like where theypharaoh them, where the um, the
pigs have their little piglets.
They're just in these crates.
They don't ever move.
Oh, my gosh, it's, it'shorrible.
They're clean, but thoseanimals and you know why they
(16:14):
have to keep them so clean isbecause those animals are so
stressed they don't even let.
Like they allow the piglets tonurse.
I think they have.
Like, they have the pigs ongrates and the piglets are
underneath because the pigs arebig and they'll crush their
piglets.
So the piglets are actuallyunderneath so that they can
nurse, but they don't get to,like, you know, snuggle up to
(16:36):
mom or anything like that.
Well, those animals are sostressed that you know they have
to do all this disinfecting andeverything because they're
going to get, you know, they'regoing to get.
Parasites show up when theanimals are stressed and they're
not in a natural environment.
You take a pig outside.
We've got a family we know thatraises.
You know forested pigs and youdrive by their place and the
(17:02):
pigs are out in their littlepens, out in the woods all
around the mud.
You know it's that's what pigsdo fight part from them.
And right, it's delicious andit's wonderful and you know I
would feed it to a pet, I Idon't personally care for raw
pork so I've never eaten it raw,but I don't think it would be
(17:25):
dangerous, right okay, youwouldn't know the truth, though.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I love raw hamburger meat.
I love it, yeah, yeah, and Iwill eat it raw and put salt on
it, and I'll eat it raw and Ieat raw bacon sometimes because
my dad used to raw bacon now,I've never tried that yeah and
fatty, but but good fat right,yeah, good fat yeah we buy good
(17:54):
quality stuff, no sugar, any ofthat stuff yeah.
So people will be like, oh, sogreat.
So I guess for me, I look at,you know, the farmer's dog.
I look at all these differentconcocted, balanced meals out
there for animals and I'm likethis is a bunch of caca, it's a
(18:15):
story, it's a dogma, it's a wayto sell product.
How do we, as humans, even livefor very many years?
(18:35):
Because we're not reallybalancing our food, dr jacek.
I mean, we're not keepingspreadsheets on how we are
balancing out all of ourmagnesium and our folic acid and
you know all of stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
All you got to do is just take that multivitamin
every day.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
There it is, there it is.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Take the multivitamin and that's what they teach
people about pets is if you justput the, you know, or just put
the multivitamin in the food andthen you don't have to worry
about it.
It's all a bunch of syntheticchemicals that they're eating
but and it doesn't mean it'shealthy.
But it makes pet parents feelbetter because they got all
those chemicals on the bag thatthey can't pronounce and that
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makes them feel like they'regiving their pet something
nutritious.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So when you use a balancing formulator, you're
looking at food.
You're not looking at the pet.
You're looking at food.
And yeah, so is it true that ifyou fed said food that was
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supposedly void of saidnutrition, and you fed that for
its entire life, how does thatshow up in the pet?
I don't know.
Have we done those studies?
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
and how do they know how much of each of those
nutrients that a pet needs,because it could be different
for every pet too.
Some pets might need more thanothers.
That's why, if you do therotation and the different
organs and I think where peopledo get into trouble with raw,
you know it's like you said well, they go to the butcher and
they're getting some meat, maybesome organs, and they got runny
(20:17):
poops.
Well, they're not feeding anybone.
You know, if they're notbalancing it and they're not
rotating it, it isn't going tobe nutritious.
But if you're adding in, youknow, some fish and some egg and
you're rotating the differentproteins and all the different
organs, including the brains andthe eyes and anything you can,
you know, get, get your hands on, I mean, are the wolves out
(20:41):
there.
Okay, let's get out thespreadsheet.
Last week we had an elk.
Now, let's see that's going tomake me a little deficient, and
let's see, a little deficient inzinc.
So maybe we better go catchsome salmon this week, otherwise
we're going to be out ofbalance.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
And when you say balance it, what you mean is
let's put variety.
That's all it really means.
It's like yeah, that's variety,a lot of variety.
Okay, so I, I get it.
That big pet food has reallyconvinced pet parents.
As long as you feed this samefood, you're not going to have
any digestive issues.
(21:20):
So, right, there's that fear oflike you're not going to have
any digestive issues.
So there's that fear of like,oh, I'm going to throw my dog
out of whack and they're goingto have diarrhea.
And I tell pet parents this allthe time.
Diarrhea is pretty easy to fixwithout medication, unless it's
just like you know, a superrunny red and you're squirting
it out the sphincter.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It's.
For me it's like it's supereasy to fix, you know, unless
the gut's been really reallybadly damaged with like too many
medications and stuff.
But then you know, we knowthere's a reason for it and the
gut needs a little, a littleextra help.
But it can still be fixed andit's not because of the food can
still be fixed, and it's notbecause of the food, I think.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I think what worries you and I about these type of
situations, where pet parentswant to manage all of these
different nutrients, istypically what happens is you
concentrate on one at thedetriment of another or many
others, and then you're in thiscatch 22.
And so people are like well,what's the solution?
The solution is to feed themvaried proteins, organs and
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bones, and you can either dothat yourself, which is
extremely time consuming, or youcan buy those already made
right.
And I would say you know,you've got the pick of turkey
and beef and chicken and duckand lamb, you know.
(22:53):
And pork salmon, you've got.
We've got at Raw Dog Food andCompany, we've got.
We've got, uh, at raw dog foodand company.
You, we've got pork brains,we've got duck feet, chicken
feet, uh, turkey hearts, chickenhearts I'm talking about the
pieces now uh and the organ andthe organ blends, which makes it
really easy because I love toadd an extra organ.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
it's just so easy, got the blend all and the
variety.
That's when people say, oh, Ireally want to do it on my own.
I'm like, okay, well, find outwhere you can get spleen and
kidney and lung and heart andliver.
And when you can find all thoseorgans, then you know, we'll
talk about putting together.
Oh yeah, and how are you goingto grind up the bone?
And, you know, put the bone inthere.
(23:35):
Because what a lot of peoplethink is what we were talking
about last week in the foodpyramid.
People extrapolate what's beensaid for many years about humans
to pets.
Oh, we'll just add some riceand some veggies in with the
chicken and then that's abalanced diet because that's
what I'm supposed to eat, somust be good, right, Like no, no
(23:57):
, it's really really hard tobalance it out and do it
properly.
And the other thing is fats.
I used to test a lot forvitamin D and I found a lot of
dogs were low vitamin D.
How can you question thetesting a bit?
Is that another justmoney-making thing?
(24:17):
There's companies that justkeep coming out with more and
more and more and more and moretests.
I'm not saying that this is thecase, but is there a?
You know how accurate are thetests and how do we know what's
the level that a pet needs?
But if you take something likevitamin D, well, it's a fat
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soluble vitamin.
Where do you find it In the fat?
What are people afraid offeeding?
Probably more than anything thefat, because it's going to
cause pancreatitis.
And there's all this stuffabout oh, you can't feed, you
can't feed fat.
So why don't we just startadding some extra fat in, not
worry about, you know, doing allthe testing, because you're
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going to be getting your fatsoluble vitamins Plus.
You want those fat solublevitamins.
Nutrients are meant to beingested together because they
work synergistically in the body.
So if you're just supplementingone, you could be throwing off
that balance, especially ifthey're getting enough of some
of them naturally and thenyou're throwing in a synthetic,
how do you know they're going toplay nice together in your
(25:23):
pet's body?
You know you don't just feedthem fat.
Get some calories, some lard.
You know the lady that we knowthat raises pork.
She makes lard soap.
So I got lard soap from her.
It's wonderful.
It's like creamy and it doesn'tdry out your skin and there's a
little lavender in it?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Where does she get that from her pigs?
Is it pig lard?
Yeah, yeah, wow.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, yeah, cause I've been using tallow soap.
I really really sensitive skin,I mean, and I'm just really
even like natural soaps andstuff like my skin will get
irritated, and so I've beenusing tallow soap and then she
told me she was making soap uh,rillard and I'm like no, she has
.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
When she processes her pig, she has it in the lard,
made into, made into soap youknow what I I think you could do
with those bacon strips thatyou eat the raw bacon strips,
you just put them on your facejust put them on my face before
I eat them and they're like whatare you doing?
I'm doing a.
I'm doing a facial a baconfacial the new spa.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
You know where.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Ladies are laying there with strips of bacon on
their face and then you go homeand your husband's like man you
smell good, I'm hungry, sohungry.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
What's that new perfume man?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
gosh, I know, yeah, but but you know, I guess, dr
jaycey, if, if, if, businesseswant to grow, they got to invent
things to sell you right?
Because just, I've just come tobelieve that the more simple it
is, the less that people wantto really do it.
(27:08):
Now that seems backwards, youknow, but honestly, what we see
is people like to make it hardon themselves Because it just
it's like, well, that can't beall there is to it, that can't
really work, that can't be thiseasy to feed raw.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Well, you know we've talked about health is the
natural state of the body.
You don't, we don't createhealth.
You know people want to believeI got to make my pet healthy or
I got to make myself healthy.
Health is a natural state.
The question is, what isinterfering with our pet's
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health and what do we have tochange so that they can go back
to their natural state?
That's like if I have a newpatient come in and they're on a
whole bunch of supplements Ihad a case like this today.
I'm like dog was presentingwith some really odd symptoms
and it was on an exorbitantamount of supplements, but
several, and they all hadmultiple ingredients.
I'm like we just got to getdown to basics and let's just
(28:16):
focus on the diet, like just fortwo weeks, just stop everything
.
And let's just focus on thediet.
Like just for two weeks, juststop everything and let's just
focus on the really goodnutrition.
And we see what happens, causeI want to see what.
What's your pet's body going totell us when we do that?
Cause you just don't know, evenif they're good quality
supplements, they could besensitive to something.
Ingredients could beinteracting.
(28:38):
Nobody knows how all thesedifferent ingredients could
interact with each other.
And maybe we're just given toomuch stuff and the body just is
working too hard, you know, toto process it.
So I think we do have tosometimes take a step back and
just get down to basics and thensee what we notice.
And then you know there'salways more stuff we can do.
(29:01):
But I think it's very easy forpeople to go down the rabbit
hole of, you know, searchingonline for supplements for
whatever the the diagnosis is,and then they want to, they want
to do something.
So they just start ordering allkinds of stuff and there's
plenty of stuff out there forthem to, for them to order to
(29:23):
treat their.
They probably order hundreds ofsupplements to treat something
like cancer, but then, you know,but then they don't have
success and then they're alittle hesitant to like stop all
the stuff.
So yeah, I actually thinkhealth is quite simple.
We feed an appropriate diet andwe don't give them toxins.
We're kind of most of the waythere.
(29:47):
It's just we have sometimes,you know, historically I mean,
I've heard people say on thehuman side that one round of
antibiotics and it can take sixto 12 months for the gut to heal
.
So these pets that have hadround after round after round,
their guts are going to bedamaged for a while.
They might always have.
Their guts might always be alittle more sensitive, so they
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might need a little extrasupport getting, you know,
transition to a raw diet.
But you know, disease is causedby toxicity.
I mean, that's what I stillcontend that it's the poisons
that we put in their body thatmakes them sick.
It's not the raw food and it's,you know, emotional toxicity.
(30:35):
You know the house.
You know we're talking aboutthe emotional part.
Do they have the rightlifestyle?
You know, are they getting outfor exercise?
Know we're talking about theemotional part.
Do they have the rightlifestyle?
You know, are they getting outfor exercise and walks and
getting their feet on the groundand and all that stuff that's
important for pets just like itis for us.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I was talking with a nurse, a male nurse actually, he
was a doctor and and I said,how is it that mentally to to
work for a place like mayo right, where you see so many cancers,
(31:11):
so many different cancers?
I said, does that ever playwith your head like you're just
afraid because you see all thesedifferent cancers?
And he said you know, whenyou're going through school, and
he and he and he and he had aword for it, he was like half
truths or half knowledge,something like that.
And he said you look at it andyou go oh my gosh, you know,
(31:36):
I've got that, I've got thatsymptom, I've got this symptom,
I've got that symptom.
And he said and you can scareyourself to death, right.
And and he said, but the moreyou're around it, the more
knowledge.
You said, there, there aredefinitely some signs, right, he
said, but here's the thing,there are things that are in our
(31:58):
control.
And he said diet.
He's the first person I'veheard talk about it.
He said diet is in our control.
Now he was more on the PT sidewhere he his sort of specialty
was vestibular um, neurologicalthings for people who had
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strokes and all this kind ofstuff.
But I was so shocked that hesaid it.
He was like no kidding, youknow, but but I don't know if he
talks to his patients about it.
He was saying for himself.
He said I'm going to do all thethings that I know can give you
(32:42):
a leg up.
He said diet, exercise, sleepand your mental outlook.
And you know, he didn't go asfar as saying, you know, like we
say, don't put toxins in yourbody.
But it was pretty interestingthat he said that.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I was like wow somebody actually said that Will
we eat actually affects ourhealth.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Do you know what I mean?
I there are.
There are nutritionists withincancer clinics.
However, I've talked about iton this podcast before some of
the information that theyespouse when I've asked for the
actual studies for that, like,do you have a study for that?
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You know, like you can't eatraw food and vegetables or any
type of sushi if you're a cancerpatient because that could
cause you to get some type ofbacteria.
And I'm like what, what youknow?
First of all, I told you that.
(33:55):
I said what, what bacteria arewe talking about?
Told you that is.
I said what, what bacteria arewe talking about?
The top three e-coli, listeriaand salmonella?
I said, well, so if you're sickor you have cancer, you can't
cook your own food anymore.
Is that what you're saying?
You know, because you can'ttouch it.
(34:18):
And I'm like, oh, where's I?
I'm never.
I mean, is there a study?
And they will say this stuffwithout any kind of Studies that
go with that.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Right, Because it's the, it's the, it's the popular
narrative, it's what everybodysays Don't, don't touch the raw
food.
And yeah, how do you the rawfood?
And yeah, how do you even bringfood into your house, like you
said.
Oh, so you can't ever cook yourown food, or somebody's not
there to cook your own food orcook your food for you.
Like it doesn't even make anysense.
No, but then they'll push theinsure or the, this other stuff
(34:57):
that's just got high fructosecorn syrup.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's okay.
They were very it was veryfunny.
They were offended that wewould make our own food from
real food instead of choosingthe chemical laden, approved
(35:23):
cancer you know foods that werevery offend and and wanted to.
You know, do you?
Are you getting the rightcalories?
Are you getting the right this?
Are you getting the right?
I'm certain that it's betterthan your chemical stuff.
And, by the way, why do yousell this chemical stuff?
Because this is what insuranceapproves of.
(35:45):
And when I finally I've saidthis before when I said why
won't insurance approve a realfood diet, not chemical diet,
especially for cancer patients?
And they said it's all aboutmoney.
Yeah, but at least she said itand she acknowledged it.
(36:08):
What was so offensive to me arethe folks that don't question
it and yet question you becauseyou want to do something
healthier.
It was very strange.
I was like why would you, whywould you want to look over my
shoulder and check it's realfood?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Right, right.
How can that be bad?
How can that be unhealthy ascompared to all the, you know,
chemical stuff?
Yeah, I bet all those companiesare just all in cahoots.
You know there's like bigcompanies that you know own the
insurance companies and and thepeople making the insurer or
(36:49):
whatever making all that food.
You know, it's all justprobably one big corporate
conglomerate and they're justfeeding off of each other yeah,
I even heard um, I, I, and I'mpretty sure that this has been
studied.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
One of the nutritionists said don't worry
about.
Basically, the dogma was youjust need the calories, don't
worry about if it's coming froma milkshake.
Because this was what they saidSugar doesn't feed cancer.
(37:30):
I said how is it then that insome cancer places the more
holistic ones they want to bringyour blood sugar level down
right before they give you achemo blast, because there's a
(37:52):
certain?
They want those cells thatuptake the glucose to be hungry
and then take up the chemo,right, and supposedly kill them.
So I'm like, which is it?
Is it that?
Is it that that's all bullshit,or this is all bullshit?
Which side is the sphincter on?
You know, I'm just like come on, so what'd they say?
(38:15):
You know what?
They always divert theconversation and give you an
answer Right.
And when you're in there withsomebody who's not feeling well,
the last thing you want to dois start a fight with your
doctor, right?
(38:35):
You want them on your side.
Yeah, you, you just likewaiters, right?
So you don't want to start afight with somebody who's in the
back preparing your food.
I promise you that you know whatthey're going to do to that
food before they bring it right,bring it out right but but I
just you know, I've learned tokind of which is not my nature,
dr Jacey to gently ask thequestion, go kind of under the
(38:56):
radar to see what the answer isgoing to be.
So it's all.
It's all very confusing, butone thing that isn't confusing
and I just don't know if any ofyou listening can argue, argue
with this statement, then sendit to us.
We'd love to hear it.
Real food is not dangerous,okay, especially now.
(39:21):
Let me let me preface this okayin a variety, in, in, in
combination, right?
So I wouldn't say all you caneat is liver for the rest of
your life and be fine.
That's not what I'm saying,right?
What I'm saying is that in anydiet, I don't eat the same thing
every single day.
(39:43):
Even if I'm on one of thesecarnivore diets or paleo diets
or whatever, there's still goingto be variety in there,
different meats.
I'm just not going to eat baconevery day, right, I wouldn't
eat bacon every day, but I mighteat ramen a lot.
But anyway, I'm just saying avariety, variety, variety of
(40:05):
stuff and real food.
You're going to be way ahead ofthe game, uh, for you and your
pets.
Drop the processed foods and,trust me, there's so much of it
out there that you'll be like Idon't know what I can eat if I,
you know, drop the processedfoods, because most of the aisle
(40:27):
in the grocery store, most ofthe aisles are processed foods,
yep, yep, most of them are.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
You have to eat things that don't have labels.
And you know even the I watcheda podcast on the whole organic
industry and I figured that apart of that was kind of a farce
, that they're not reallywatching that closely.
So organic food at the grocerystore, you know, may not be
truly organic or they can spraythings on them prior to shipment
and all this stuff Probablystill better than buying
(40:55):
conventional food.
But at least eating real foodis better than buying something
that you know you take out of abox and add boiling water and
have your instant dinner.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, exactly Exactly .
Have your instant dinner?
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
So it's just, it's just.
We just need to not be soafraid to give our pets variety
and raw right.
This is the thing.
Don't be so afraid.
And if you are afraid, I wouldencourage you to ask the
(41:31):
questions why, right?
Why am I so afraid to feed pork?
You know what?
Where?
Where did this narrative comefrom?
Where is it really an issue?
When has it been an issue?
How was it tested?
How, how was that?
You know, those two things cometogether right, and it's these
little people.
I think I remember you sayingthis, dr Jasek.
(41:54):
Didn't you say let me ask you,if you said this if your dog is
going to get worms from eating araw diet, it would have to be
because a dog with worms poopedon your dog's food and then your
(42:15):
dog ate it.
Was that right?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I did say that I think I did say that Right,
because parasites are speciesspecific for the most part, so
they're not going to get aparasite.
If there was some kind ofparasite living in the meat it's
going to likely just pass rightthrough the dog.
But if a dog with parasitespooped on the raw food and the
(42:38):
dog ate it, then you know itcould get it from the other dog.
So, yes, I do believe I saidthat.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
You know, there is no way that Lazi is going to let
any dog poop on her food.
She eats it so fast that itcouldn't even get in a squat
position before her food be gone.
I'm just saying you know right?
Speaker 2 (42:57):
plus she's probably a little more discriminating than
that.
It's like don't poop on my foodshe's funny.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
She carries her toy right and I say toy it's, it's
one of the grappies, it's a.
You know, they're, uh, they're,they're material, they're in a
ball form and they have a littlehandle and you throw them.
They're for training purposes,but she loves those and we have
all different sizes and she'llgrab one.
Here's like, okay, we're goingfor right, let me grab one.
And typically it's notsomething that we like to let
(43:30):
her carry one of those all thetime, but because we do here,
because she loves to eat theduck poop.
So if she has her toys shewon't eat the duck poop.
But what she does is thatshe'll carry her toy and then
she's got to poop.
So she puts the toy down andthen she poops very close to
(43:50):
where the toy is and then she'slike I'm not picking that toy.
She does that and I have tokick it and then she'll go get
it.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
She's like can you, can you like scoot it away it
smells over there like would youplease pick up my poop so I can
get my toy Right.
They got it made, don't they?
We put food in their bowls.
Pick up their poop, buy themtoys Like oh, it's got it made.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Rub their bellies Right, except for those that are
in cages all day long and theydon't have it made.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
No, that's not good, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
So it's just, it's the wonderful pet parents that
make it wonderful for their dogs.
You know, and that's hopefullythat's the majority I cannot I
cannot, dr jaycey, watch thosecommercials where they're like
these dogs don't know wheretheir next meal is coming from.
So we ask you to donate.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
I'm just like turning I know I can't watch those
either.
It's it's heartbreaking and Iknow that's like a reality.
I know that's out there, butyeah, I that that is just
horrific.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Oh, and God bless those people who go out there
and rescue those dogs.
You know and I can see.
I can certainly see where thatcould turn out to be a hoarding
type situation, because I wouldbe one of those people.
I'd be like, nope, I don'ttrust anybody to have this dog
right I don't want them to everbe in that situation.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
You know they're running out of space and they
gotta euthanize some of themright, and they just because
they don't have the room youknow, wait, wait, a minute, wait
a minute.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
wasn't that what they were trying to do to us running
, running out of room?
We got to euthanize some ofy'all.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
I think they still are.
I think they still are.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Oh, I heard today this is true fact.
I was calling Walgreens.
On the recording it said peopleover the age of something, I
don't know.
I think they said 50.
I can't remember the exact age,but they were like are more
susceptible to the COVID disease, so you can come and get your
(45:59):
boosters today.
I was like are you serious?
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Are you still on that train?
Yeah, I wonder if people stillactually get those boosters.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I'm sure, I'm sure they probably do.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
The doctor recommends it yeah, oh, I was just like
what and and, while you're at it, get your flu shot and your
shingle shot and your pneumoniashot and pneumococca.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
What is it called pneumococcus?
Yeah, give me the caca shot.
All right, everybody listen.
You could work with dr judyjasic.
Uh, why?
Because you get a secondopinion that is very broad, very
wide in wide, in depth and verydeep in the knowledge of what's
(46:55):
going on in the world, how vetsare trained, how they sell
products, you know what's reallygood for the, what's necessary.
I think the money that you savepeople right by saying this is
really not necessary, rightMakes raw food much more
affordable if you stop doing allthe other stuff that is
actually poisoning your pet.
(47:15):
Put that money towards raw food,probably saving money right,
right and uh, you know, get overto dr jc.
You can find her team at a h avetcom.
A h a vetcom.
A second opinion whether that'sgoing to be on cancer, removing
lipomas, gut issues, the allencompassing.
(47:35):
My dog has allergy issues.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Or even just even just wellness.
We actually got a little likeApril wellness special.
So instead of running into yourvet for the wellness checkup
where they're just going to sellyou on a bunch of poisons, you
can come talk to us and we cantell you how to get to keep your
pet healthy, naturally, withoutdoing all that stuff so that's
fantastic.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
70, 70 bucks.
I like it, I, I, I didn't evenknow.
So we just announced somethingright now a true wellness.
See, this is.
This is great.
That's, that's amazing.
I love that.
I love that.
Um, get over there.
And, uh, you won't be puttingtoxins in your dog's body.
(48:19):
After that wellness checkup Ican tell you, okay, nope, nope,
uh, all right, get over to rawdog food and companycom.
Listen.
Every wednesday night, uh, andnow it's four o'clock for
mountain time to midnight.
We have a sale and we have abig sale.
And I'm talking we have food,we have bones, we have treats,
(48:42):
uh, we have supplements drjace's favorite.
So we have them all and they goon sale on Wednesday nights.
And we do this why?
Because we don't really havethe all you know, like the
rewards program.
We don't have the buy this muchand you get this much off.
So we made it super simple,because I think what people
(49:04):
don't really understand is thatcuts into your profits, because
all of those companies do take aportion of your sales, and so
companies have to build thatback in.
So we said how can we make rawfood fair and affordable across
the board, whether you have five, you know 75 pound dogs or five
(49:26):
10 pound dogs, right, and so,anyway, we do this on Wednesday
from four to midnight.
So you want to get over to rawdog food and company?
I can't believe.
Yeah, I'm not even going to saythat.
Anyway, raw dog food andcompanycom, where your pet's
health is our business, and whatDr Jasek?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Friends, don't let friends feed, kibble y'all,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
We'll see you next week, everybody, if you have a
question, shoot it over to usand we will answer right here.
See you then, bye Bye.
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