March 23, 2025 • 44 mins
Are your dog's supposed "allergic reactions" actually signs of healing? When transitioning from processed kibble to raw dog food, many pet parents misinterpret normal detoxification symptoms as negative reactions. These temporary changes—itching, minor digestive adjustments, even brief behavioral shifts—signal your pet's body finally purging accumulated toxins from years of inappropriate nutrition.
Dr. Judy Jasek DVM and DeDe Murcer Moffett dive deep into this crucial misunderstanding that causes many well-intentioned pet parents to abandon raw feeding just when their pets are beginning to heal. They explain how the conventional veterinary approach often misdiagnoses these detoxification symptoms as food allergies, leading to even more problematic "solutions" like highly processed hydrolyzed protein diets that further compromise pet health.
The conversation turns to a concerning new pharmaceutical trend—a recently developed injection for pancreatitis that was tested on just 31 dogs with questionable results. This highlights the industry's preference for profitable drug development over addressing the nutritional foundations of health. As Dr. Jasek warns, "Don't let your dog or cat be a guinea pig" for newly released medications when nutrition could resolve many common health issues.
Most powerfully, the hosts share their extensive experience witnessing dramatic improvements in behavior, anxiety, and overall vitality when pets transition to species-appropriate nutrition. Unlike popular misconceptions, raw-fed dogs typically become calmer, more attentive, and easier to train—not more anxious or hyperactive. This episode offers a refreshing perspective that challenges conventional wisdom about pet nutrition and provides practical guidance for those considering a transition to raw feeding. Ready to transform your pet's health? Visit rawdogfoodandcompany.com where your pet's health is their business.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh snap.
Well, hello Raw Feeders.
I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, CEOof a raw dog feeding company,
when your pet's health is ourbusiness and we're friends.
Like my friend, Dr Judy Jasek,Doesn't let friends feed kibble
Now, do you?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
No way.
No way, jose, or anybody else.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
All right, we're going to start this podcast
today with a little customerstuff.
This dog lost his companionfirst, okay, and then he got on
raw and he stopped eating.
He didn't want to do anything,he didn't want to play.
(00:40):
Uh, let me see if I can getmore of the information, but
basically it's this in anutshell.
She felt that the raw food wascausing an allergic reaction
because he was, in my opinion,exerting and acting in ways that
a grieving dog would.
But once he got back on his oldfood kibble, it fixed
(01:01):
everything.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And only a second.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
So the grief was triggering the allergic reaction
?
Well'm not sure.
I'm not sure, but because therewas a little itching going on.
But but here's what we know, drjasic, and what we've seen over
and over and over again.
If you're coming off of a foodthat has lots of different
ingredients in it that ourcarnivores don't need, shouldn't
eat, ingredients in it that ourcarnivores don't need,
(01:28):
shouldn't eat they probably aregoing to itch for a while.
Why?
Because it's coming out, theskin coming at your skin.
It's got to get out.
Either we got to vomit or wegot to itch, or we got to poop,
or we got to cough or get chillsor something like that.
How do you get the crap out ofyour body if it's not that okay?
And this absolutely freaks ourpet parents out and
(01:51):
unfortunately we can't stop themfrom running back to get the
thing that is not going to begood for the dog in the first
place.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
They got diarrhea because we're transitioning them
and their bodies can now detox,so so they're going through
this detox.
Then you put them on all thetoxins and the diarrhea goes
away.
So that's yeah, that'sfrustrating, Because what do you
say?
I mean, we try to, becausewe've tried to tell people that
this could happen.
Your pet may go through a detox.
(02:18):
It's a good thing.
They're getting all the crapout, but you know, some people
it's just too much for them.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Here's the other thing, guys.
Um, it's very, very, very, very,very did I say very dr jayzik
difficult to say one more time,very uh, to tell what the heck
your dog is responding to if wehave a lot of things going into
their body.
Okay, so now let me just readthis, because this is coming
(02:49):
from the customer and this willgive you a better idea of what
she was dealing with.
But she said you know, it'sbeen a roller coaster since they
started their dog on the rawfood diet.
And she said I think we figured, figured something out.
I think he is having an extremeallergic reaction.
Um, and and, dr jasek, what youand I see is an extreme
(03:14):
allergic reaction is if the dogis biting and pulling their hair
out, making themselves bleed.
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
yeah, that would be extreme.
That would be like or likerip-roaring bloody diarrhea or
something like that okay.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So, um, this sweet pet parent said I'm putting the
raw diet on hold right nowbecause he has become bizarre in
his behavior.
She said his whole personalitychanged, um, from the saturday
night.
So this was uh, what night wasthis?
(03:48):
Uh, tuesday, saturday, put himon raw tuesday.
This voicemail is coming in andsaying that, um, he was having,
you know, a personality change.
I do want to come back to thatin a second.
But they said, um, we thought hewas just grieving the loss of
his brother and now I realizedhe had an anxiety attack on
(04:09):
Saturday night.
Now I want to talk about thatin a second too.
Let me finish another one.
Last night, um, it kept us upall night and um, so I had some
allergy pills from his I don'tknow what this is, zt so I gave
him that and it seemed to do thetrick.
I also gave him melatonin andso, anyway, I'm not sure.
(04:40):
Let's go back to one thing, andthis is where we really have to
help our pet parents parse thisthing apart, because we don't
see this as bizarre behavior,certainly if a dog has lost
another dog, um, becauseprobably the pet parents are
(05:00):
grieving, right, and and youjust wrote a paper on grief.
Grief is a very strong emotionand it's going to be felt by the
parents as well as the pet.
But we talked about the allergy, the allergy attack.
But what would an anxietyattack look like in a dog?
(05:24):
I?
What would that look like?
It's a really good question.
Well, I mean, was he likepacing and breathing heavy?
And I?
You know, if we see that pacingand breathing heavy, um or
whining, we might think bloat oran obstruction.
Right, that may be somethingthat I would see.
(05:44):
Now I have seen dogs that go tothe vet and they don't want to
be at the vet.
I don't know why, but theydon't want to be at the vet, you
know, for something's freakingthem out and they are panting
and maybe pacing.
So I don't know if that wouldbe it or not.
That's certainly not, in mybook, bizarre behavior.
(06:05):
But again, real food, real rawfood, will never cause a
reaction like that.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It causes the opposite.
In my experience it causes them.
But what I hear back from petparents that transition to raw
is it helps calm them down,they're more attentive, they're
easier to train, they'reactually less anxious and
agitated.
And I wonder in this dog, maybehe was looking for his buddy.
(06:38):
You know, sometimes if dogs arereally close, depending on how
bonded they are, and one dies.
I mean, sometimes dogs justkind of go with the flow and
it's no big deal, but if they'reused to being together they
will look for their buddy, kindof wander around and like
where'd they go?
Where'd they go?
I got to go find them, kind ofthing.
So I wonder if maybe it was inpart that picking up on their
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pet parents grief, and there'sso many other things.
This is another.
You know, we always say there'smore to the story.
What else was going on?
You know, did they have peoplevisiting?
Was there any changes in thehousehold?
You know, were there otherstressors in the family?
You know, in the humans andwhat else was going on?
There can be so many things and, like you said, what exactly
(07:22):
were they seeing?
And you know, was it anxiety?
Or, you know, was it somethingelse?
Because, I agree.
I don't see raw food make dogsmore anxious.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And allergic reactions.
This is a catch-all, acatch-all phrase.
Unfortunately, the pet parentsdidn't come upon that themselves
.
I mean, there's been a lot ofhelp in the pet professional
industry, the vet industry,because it's like, oh, they're
(07:54):
just allergic and you're like,are they now?
Are they now?
Or is it an issue where thefood because the food is blamed
and then the crappy food isnever looked at?
And this is this is our issue,and we're going to talk about a
new drug for pancreatitis whichyou sent me and I.
(08:16):
I find this funny because if wecould just change the food, I
damn sure bet dr Jason that we'dsee that drop.
The pancreatitis issues woulddrop.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, allergies are like the knee jerk, like they're
itching, so I know it'sallergies.
Really, how do you know it'sallergies?
There's like many reasons why adog's will itch and I think
itchy skin is the toughest thingI ever treat because there's
all these contributing factors.
You know what are they eating?
Were they on any drugs, evenpast courses of antibiotics?
(08:52):
You know, I have heard thatlike a course of antibiotics, it
can take your microbiome likesix or seven months to rebuild.
So dogs that have repeatcourses of antibiotics, their
gut's not going to be healthyand that's going to have an
impact on the skin also.
So there's so many factors andit could be things that happened
(09:12):
a while ago that's made theirgut not healthy.
So now they're having a littlemore of a hard time with the
food chain.
So maybe they get they need alittle extra support.
But it doesn't have anything todo with allergies and I've said
this before.
I think true, food allergies areactually extremely rare and
what I see is people then startto limit the diet so much and
(09:35):
people come into me and say,well, my dog just I don't know
what to feed him because it'sallergic to everything.
But it's not that they'reallergic to the food.
There's another reason causingthe inflammation and the itchy
skin and you have to pick thatapart and sometimes you don't
know, you just can't figure itout.
But the popular narrative, likeyou said, is that, oh, it's a
(09:57):
food allergy, so the vets wantto put them on these hydrolyzed
protein, which are horrible,horrible diets.
It's like the worst thing.
I mean, it's like putting yourdog on a vegan diet or something
like there's no real food inthose at all.
It's a really terrible diet.
But they're going under thepresumption that, well, it's a
protein allergy and instead oftrying all these different
proteins, let's just break theprotein down so much and process
(10:20):
it so much that there's just noway that it could, you know,
cause allergies.
And even that doesn't work,because I work with people that
are like I've tried all thesedifferent foods and this
hydrolyzed protein and my dog'sstill at cheat because they're
not getting to the bottom of theproblem.
So you need to make sure you'redigging deep enough and getting
to the root of the problem.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And I, I'm just going to say this you guys, uh, it's
just been 25 years, but I'm justgonna, you know, go out on a
limb and say I've never seen adog get anxious on a real food,
that either, real raw food.
Now you could say, you can makea case and say, well, farmer's
dog is real food, yeah, it's not, it's not raw, okay.
(10:58):
So I'm saying real raw, that'sminus all the crap.
If it's meat, bones, bones,organ and fat, what in that?
Is it the bone that's going tomake him anxious?
Is it the meat?
I mean, why would our Godcreate an animal to not be able
(11:21):
to eat that which he is designedto eat?
Now, that's different.
That's a different statementthan saying your dog's gut's
been jacked up from x, y and z.
Okay, those are two differentthings.
But even if your dog's gut wasjacked up, dr jasic, you
wouldn't keep jacking it up withmore right you gotta godly food
(11:43):
, you gotta eliminate theproblem and that's you know.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's hard for some people to realize.
Well, they go back to feedingkibble and their pet seems to do
better.
But it's actually in the longrun going to make their pet less
healthy.
So you've got to get get rid ofthe kibble.
Maybe to do do some support.
Maybe they need some enzymes orsome herbs to help soothe the
gut, maybe help to ease thattransition just a little bit.
(12:08):
Sometimes things like that canhelp.
Be sure they're warming thefood.
I just did a little video onFacebook on the importance of
warming the food.
It got like 800 views orsomething Really Like.
People don't know this, butanyway I'm glad people are
paying attention because, likeyou know, it's important
(12:31):
information and sometimes littlethings like that, like feeding
the food cold, sometimes that'senough to just upset the stomach
and interrupt normal digestionand make that transition even
harder.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, all right.
So no kibble Friends.
Don't let friends feed kibble,ever, for no reason.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I don't let my enemies feed it either, honestly
, because I care about the pets.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Right, that's so right, that's so right.
All right, let's do a littleupdate on the Dobie, the
Doberman Pinscher that washaving the prostate issue.
Sure that was having the theprostate issue?
Um, she did listen to theprogram and she um she said
thank you again.
It's so hard to find anyinformation on prostate health
because nobody really talks muchabout it, so you have no idea
(13:15):
how much it means to me.
Please let Didi and Dr Jasekknow how much they're um helping
animals.
Even if most don't listen orappreciate it, there are many of
us like me who do and I believemy dogs are becoming healthier
with the knowledge I have gained.
Please keep doing what you'redoing.
So thank you so much, but youhad a couple of other questions,
(13:38):
dr Jacek, that we wanted to getfrom this sweet pet parent and
she sent some more informationto us.
But basically, you need youneed more information like what
are the symptoms?
Um, does he have an abnormalurination, defecation?
And what diagnostics were done,especially imaging, because, as
(14:02):
I was reading this, this poordoby, he's in a diaper 24 7, oh
so he's like dribbling urine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah so, um, I don'tknow if you had a chance to, uh
, take a look, I'm trying to getthis thing to pop up, but um,
so she did have a test done, adna test, where you asked if
(14:27):
this dog was um willowbrand'sdisease yeah, right, so she did
yeah, she got the test for thatand that's why they chose not to
neuter him.
Uh, they, they haven't done aclotting test, but they um feel
that what they've seen is to youknow, a lot of he bleeds a lot
(14:48):
over small scratches um, lastyear, right before switching to
raw, she, she did say,unfortunately they, they had him
vaccinated for the second time,so I think that would be rabies
, um, and then um he, about sixmonths ago in august is when he
(15:10):
started bleeding profusely fromhis penis and had that bloody
urine and so from thaturinalysis, the ultrasound is
where they saw the cyst but notumors.
And um, they've they um,they've just kept an eye on it.
But they said in the lastcouple of months he started
having incontinence, you knowthat weaker urine stream and
(15:33):
some difficulty pooping.
But the vet said that theydidn't feel like the cysts were
any bigger and he does not havean infection of any kind.
But he is in that diaper, poorlittle guy.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That's tough.
If it's a cyst, you know thereare Chinese herbs that can
actually help with that and helpwith the incontinence.
That's what.
I wasn't sure of was exactlywhat they were seeing.
But if he's incontinence, andwe know it's a cyst and it's not
a tumor, then you know thereare some Chinese herbs that
could perhaps help with that.
So if they wanted to reach outto us, we could, we could, we
(16:12):
could certainly help them withthat and we might be able to
improve his quality of life, gethim out of the diaper, Cause
that's not a good quality oflife for dogs.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
That's hard on pet parents too, dr Jessica.
I mean, it really is just a.
You know these anytime they runoutside, like when Laza's in
heat.
You know anytime they runoutside, like when las is in
heat you know, we got our nicelittle panties on her and, um,
you know the door be open out tothe backyard and I'm not
looking.
She comes back in.
She got, she got a present.
Yeah, she had to go.
Yeah, and those aren'tdisposable, mind you.
(16:44):
So anyway, uh, it's not easy onthe pet parents.
So, yeah, check out Dr Jasek'steam.
They're over at ahavetcom.
All right, dr Jasek.
As if there wasn't enough drugsfor dogs out there, we got a new
one for pancreatitis.
And you know what I noticedabout this, dr Jasek?
(17:05):
They said something that is sorelevant to the raw diet.
They said something that is sorelevant to the raw diet and,
and they said that, pancreatitis, because there's not enough
like moisture water in in there.
Let me just get the right words.
What was I reading here?
It was like it's a?
Uh, how it works, where is it?
(17:26):
Maybe I'm on.
I was reading about this drugand I was like, okay, okay, well
, if you just switch over to araw diet, then maybe.
Oh, the dehydration, thedehydration wheel, okay, I was
looking at that.
Dehydration is a common symptomof gastrointestinal issues such
as pancreatitis.
So if you really want to lookat how does a dog become
(17:50):
dehydrated, well, if your dog iseating kibble 100%.
That dog is dehydrated all thetime.
Is that a correct statement, drJasek?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, I would say so Because you know kibble is about
maybe 10% moisture On youraverage.
Your fresh food diet, raw fooddiet about 70% moisture.
So they're, they're getting a,they're having a moisture
deficit just by eating.
So the food is dehydrating them.
Are they going to drink enoughto make up for that?
(18:23):
You know, you don't, you don'tknow, you don't know.
People say, well, my dog goesto the water dish and drinks,
but are they drinking enough tomake up for the fact that it's a
dehydrated food?
And then they go on exerciseand and they need any more.
And then that dry food is sounhealthy for the stomach
because it sits in there and itjust it sucks all the water out
of the like lining of thestomach.
So the stomach lining isn'thealthy and can't make the right
(18:46):
enzymes, and all that.
And yeah, it's no wonder it cancause things like pancreatitis.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Well, and we've talked about this many a times
Kibble.
You guys, do you have any ideahow long the bag sits in a hot
warehouse?
Because kibble doesn't have tobe frozen or put in the fridge,
I mean it's in a bag.
It can sit in a warehouse for avery long time.
(19:16):
There are oils in there, thereare things in that kibble that
go rancid, and do you see higherrates of pancreatitis in the
summertime than you do any othertime?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I don't know.
I mean I can't say that I'veever tracked that.
So I would say in general it'sbeing diagnosed more and more,
but I think more presumptivelyit's why this new drug scares me
, because there's a lot of well.
The dog's vomiting Dog quiteating must be pancreatitis.
Let's just give him thepancreatitis shot just in case
there's going to be a lot ofthat going on.
(19:54):
But I can't say that I've everreally tracked that.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So this is a shot, Lord.
Our dogs are becoming pincushions.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
What is?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
happening.
Yeah, so is this just apreventative?
Oh, let's give your dog anothershot so we can prevent
pancreatitis, or when would thisbe given?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
it's actually, and I think it's just being tested.
I actually saw this on dr judymorgan's site.
She did a lot of a little videoon this, so I don't know that
it's actually out on the marketquite yet.
Um, but it's.
It's supposed to be ananti-inflammatory that
specifically targets thepancreas.
Somehow, somehow magically, Idon't know.
(20:39):
They did a study on 31 dogs, soI'm sure they know all about it
.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Whoa 31, and do we, and we do do we know what the
rules were for being able tokick out half of those?
Because I'm guaranteeing therewere.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
They didn't publish that, but they did publish that
I think five of the dogs died,or something like that.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
From the shot.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Well, it's not clear Like some of them got sick, Like
half of those got severepancreatitis, so go figure but.
I don't know what exactly likewere the dogs.
Like it didn't say, it justsaid like the study didn't give
the details of the study.
In the little insert thing thatI read it said that you know
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the study contained 31 dogs.
Now were those dogs alreadydiagnosed with pancreatitis and
they were treating it, or werethey just testing drug safety
and giving it to them and seewhat happens?
But on that sheet I sent you itwas like the top, like two
within the top three sideeffects were GI effects, gi
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inflammation were GI effects, giinflammation.
So just giving the shot couldmake the GI signs worse, which
makes sense because it's ananti-inflammatory and we know
that anti-inflammatory is like,you know, carprofen.
It's just also rimidil or theseNSAIDs.
You know theseanti-inflammatory drugs can be
very hard on the stomach.
Now they're not giving itorally.
Heart on the stomach.
(22:12):
Now they're not giving itorally.
I believe it's actually givenIV.
So so they're giving this drugthat could be potentially hard
on the digestive tract.
So how much sense does thatmake that you're giving
something that could actuallyaggravate the situation.
And if you know oh, you knowmore than a 10th, what 15, 15,
20% of the dogs in the study getsick.
(22:33):
I mean, what does?
What does that tell you?
That's, that's not a reallygood safety record there.
You know you don't want any andthey, you know, and they do
these studies.
Number one it's not on verymany dogs.
That's like a nothing burgerstudy, right there.
Right, because they're just noteven.
They're not even testing enoughdogs to have a good.
(22:55):
I mean you should have 1000s inthe study.
Well, what they do is they testenough so they can say that's
been tested to get it out in themarket.
The real study on efficacy andsafety is out in the real world
on everybody's pets and I'vealways.
Dr morgan said when she was inpractice that she would not use
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a new drug until it had been outfor five years.
Um, I would used to say twothat she went even went five
years.
Don't let your dog or cat be aguinea pig and use any new drug
for any reason.
You know these.
I think we've talked aboutthese arthritis drugs the
Silencia and the Labrella.
I was talking to a lady today.
(23:38):
Her cat had two of the Silencia, so they're basically the same
drug, just one's for cats, one'sfor dogs.
Had seizures, bloody urine.
Now it has cancer.
It was like a 21-year-old catand they gave two of these shots
(23:58):
.
The vet said oh yeah, just giveit.
No problem Won't be a problemfor your cat.
And it's been shown now I meanthey're being investigated for
this that that makes them sickand it lasts a whole month.
So your pet gets sick from adrug like that.
You can't just take it out Now.
I don't know how long theeffects of this pancreatitis
(24:20):
drug last, but it's not like youcan just treat the side effects
and they go away really fast.
And if your pet's already sickand now you're putting a drug on
top of it that could make thosesymptoms worse like it's not a
good idea and it's not necessary.
You know, pancreatitis is aninflamed digestive tract.
(24:40):
What do we do for inflameddigestive tract?
We fast them.
We just let it rest.
It's like what do you do whenyou've got a sore muscle?
You overuse your arm, you workout too hard at the gym and your
arm hurts.
You rest it.
You just rest the GI tract,make sure they're staying
hydrated.
Give them a couple days.
The body knows how to heal andthe body will heal.
(25:01):
Now we're going to be pumpinganother toxic pharmaceutical
into our pets.
And you know what else isreally interesting is, in the
last couple of years and I justgot to think this is not a
coincidence that the, thediagnosis of pancreatitis has
gone up and up and up.
Like I was saying, even petsthat just aren't that sick, they
(25:22):
just vomited once or twice thevet will say oh, they got
pancreatitis.
They are going to be given outthis drug like candy.
Any, I bet you anything, anypet that comes in vomiting any,
any sign of GI upset.
They're just going to be giventhem this drug and I bet it's
going to make a lot of petssicker.
And over time we'll we'll findout how sick because
(25:45):
unfortunately, some pets areprobably going to die from it,
and then they'll pull it off themarket, but they'll have
already made their money, youknow so they don't care.
So don't make your pets aguinea pig until something's
been out there in the real worldfor a couple of years.
Don't, don't get talked into it.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
You know what.
We've talked about pancreatitismany a times, about what are
the things that cause aninflamed gut.
Well, the wrong dang food is abig one, but then all the other
toxins that go with that, guys.
So it's not fat either and it'snot.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Not healthy fat, unhealthy fat like your toxic
seed oils in the kibble that'sbeen sitting in the 110 degree
garage in the middle of thesummertime.
Those would cause pancreatitis.
But your healthy saturatedanimal fats that are in the raw
food do not cause pancreatitis.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
No, no, no and no.
But what I know is this uh,when a mindset says my dog has
pancreatitis and can't eat rawfood, there ain't no change in
it.
So there ain't no change in it.
So I don't know that the dog'sgoing to get healthy.
(26:59):
But there may not be any changein that mindset.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
But they'll sign up for the shot, I bet you, of
course.
Yeah, brand new medication,just a shot.
Like changing the diet is likelike this I don't know, this is
like bizarre concept that, likeall my pet needs is a different
diet, but give them a shot.
That just came out.
Sure, just give me the shot,just give me the drug.
I don't care if it's beentested, I don't care how many
(27:25):
dogs died from it, just give methe drug and I'm okay with that.
Change the food.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Could do that.
Is Fauci involved?
Oh my gosh, I don't know what afall from grace I mean, if
there.
I mean, come on, are there anypeople that still think this guy
is a decent human being?
I mean, come on, just theblunder about COVID.
(27:51):
And back to what you weresaying.
They could come out and say allthe apologies now and say, oh,
you know well, maybe we were nottotally correct.
Yeah, we wanted all you guysdead, that uh didn't get
vaccinated right, we lied, welied out of our sphincters.
But yeah, both, both sphincters,because you had two, one in
(28:14):
your face and one in your hindend, you know.
So you lied out your sphincter.
You're right, and I'm just likeI that makes me really angry
that that you can put somethingout there Totally false, just
like the whole cardiomyopathy.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Cardiomyopathy.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, yeah, that was just BS out the sphincter.
And everybody ate that up.
I ate that up, man.
And every dog hadcardiomyopathy and they needed
to be on a different diet thediets that the vets had, right,
it was all just bull honky.
And so this is the game it'slike.
(28:59):
Well, we know the fear.
We're going to create even morefear and then we're going to
create a solution to that fearand we know that this many of
the sheeple people are justgoing to run and that running of
the sheep is going to pay usthis much money, right, and then
(29:21):
we'll get rid of it.
We'll say we're sorry, we'resorry, right.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
But you can't undo it , doesn't undo it, no matter how
many.
I'm sorry'm sorry.
You know people hear the damage.
The damage is done and not onlywhat people put in their bodies
, but businesses that got shutdown, that didn't survive,
families got split up over this.
You know there was a lot oftragedy that went beyond the
(29:47):
direct.
You know medical consequences,the the.
You know medical consequences,the the.
You know social, socialconsequences and psychological
consequences of it.
You know it's.
It was really far rich reaching.
But oh, we're sorry.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I remember, I remember having a conversation
with a former customer, was acustomer, then quickly became a
former customer because theywere very upset that we, you and
I, uh, were pushing a no mask.
Uh, you know conversation.
And I said, well, there is noscience on that.
(30:25):
Oh, there is science on itthere.
I said, gladly, take a look atit.
You send me the science, right.
And then I'll never forget.
One of our reviews that we goton the podcast was you are
letting people in your exam roomwithout a mask and you yourself
are not wearing a mask.
(30:46):
No, because we didn't have herhead in our sphincter, that's
right.
But you know what I noticed, drJasek Nobody has written me an
apology.
Have you gotten an apology?
Have you seen one?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
No, no, usually people like that.
We block them.
We stop communicating with them.
So if they did apologize, wewouldn't know it, but I
sincerely doubt that they would.
But you know what I did so earlyon in COVID, like I wasn't
really sure, like I don't know.
And my mom was still alive, shewas 98.
So I wasn't too worried aboutmyself.
(31:22):
I can keep myself healthy.
I got ozone, I got all thesecool therapies, herbs.
I know how to keep myselfhealthy, you know.
But I wanted to make sure thatif there was anything to this
that you know, she wasn't goingto get sick.
So I was careful for a littlebit.
I wore a mask at work for alittle bit and then I started
seeing I don't buy into this.
(31:44):
And one day I just I just saidyou know what, I'm just not
living in fear, and I took mymask off and I've never been
sick.
I I mean, you know, never likeno symptoms in years since
before covet.
I haven't, by the last timethat I actually had like a like
what I would call a good cold orsomething that really you know
(32:07):
was a problem for several weeks,one of those colds and he goes
before covet never, ever beensick.
That's because you know whatyou don problem for several
weeks.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
One of those colds and he goes.
That was before COVID.
Never I haven't been sick.
That's because you know what.
You don't put crap in your body, you really don't.
I know how you eat and youdon't.
You know smoke and you don'ttake drugs and you don't drink a
whole lot, if any.
You know what I'm saying.
You guys are healthy when you.
You know, before you moved outto Tennessee, you guys were
hiking all the time.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So even here we're outside exercising and we're not
afraid.
I think fear brings it in, youknow but your fear appears.
If you sit there and you're soworried about getting sick, it's
like a bleeding cause ofdisease is is fear, because fear
causes stress in your body andit puts it in that sympathetic
mode, that fight or flight, andand you're just so focused on it
(32:55):
that you know you're gonna endup getting sick just from just
from the fear.
And your pets pick up on thatenergy too.
So when people are so afraid ofthings like bird flu or feeding
raw food causing pancreatitisor other awful diseases, you
know they'll find a reason.
(33:16):
People that are.
If people are afraid enough offeeding raw and they're like
well, they've been told it'sgood, so they want to try it,
but they're really.
The fear is the overarchingemotion.
There'll always be a problemwith it, always be a problem
with it, and it'll always bebecause of the raw.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
So yeah, I just took a nurse actually some raw food
for her cat, because her catsare young but they already have
massive tartar and they haveissues gastrointestinal issues,
so what.
They're on hydrolyzed proteinand I was like she said, but I'm
(33:56):
not going to be able to do this, I'm gonna, um, I'm going to
have to have my husband do it.
I said are you vegan?
She said no, I'm not vegan.
I just it's a, it's a bacteriathing, it's a germ, a phobic
bacteria type issue, right?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
She was trained to be afraid of germs.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Right, right, right.
And I was just like, oh, I said, listen, girl.
I said if anybody was going todie it'd be me Of feeding raw
food, Because I use my hands.
I'm not saying I wash them, butI just um, yeah, don't, I just
(34:35):
don't.
It's not a thing for me.
And we have had such a big bodyof evidence that you know all
these dogs, all these cats thathave turned around, who do so
well on raw, who were sick priorto getting the real food that
they were created to eat, thatyou know, it's not just my
(34:59):
opinion, it is my experience andthe evidence of not only my own
but of others.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, you know, if this gal that couldn't feed the
raw food, if she's not a vegan,she's eating meat, does that
mean her husband does all thecooking Because they're bringing
raw meat into their house toeat it themselves?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I don't know, dr Jasek, it's a weird thing for
people Once you put the word dogfood in front of it, because,
honestly, it does look like beef.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
It looks like hamburger that you buy.
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I think you could pass it off to one of your
guests that you didn't like.
Just fry it up in a patty andgive it to them.
Just don't use the blends withtripe, because that's pretty
potent.
That might be a giveaway.
They're like this is me.
You don't want your housesmelling like tripe cooking or
(36:00):
the neighborhood smelling to putthem on the grill like right,
right, um, yeah, so, anyway.
So watch out for thispancreatitis new shot coming out
.
We don't know how it's going tobe used.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Librella oh my gosh, just horrible stuff, um and
there's so many other things youcan do.
I think a lot of times thesedrugs are sold on convenience,
um and well, and the vets aremaking a grundle of money.
I think I think I had a clienttell me it's over like a hundred
(36:27):
dollars.
Like she had tried like littleumbrella way back when it first
came out and um, it's like likea hundred dollars.
Like she had tried like thelabrella way back when it first
came out and um, it's like overa hundred dollars or something
to go in every month.
So they're making a grundle ofmoney on it.
People like it, they're willingto pay because it's convenience
.
I don't have to worry aboutgiving my pet um, giving my pet
drugs.
But there's options.
(36:47):
Like I said, pancreatitisshould be fully treatable.
You don't need to give theseexperimental drugs Arthritis.
I mean nothing makes arthritisgo away if it's bad enough.
But there's herbs and there'sjust the diet change.
Just getting them on the rawdiet, getting the weight off of
them, getting them down to alean body mass, makes a huge
(37:08):
difference.
And there's herbs, turmeric,cbd, there's all sorts of things
you can add in that will.
That will help, um, helpdecrease that inflammation.
Green lip muscle I've got agreen lip muscle.
Um, deer antler velvet productthat I learned about at the
conference I went to last year.
A guy in New Zealand sells it.
(37:29):
They raise their own deer andharvest the velvet and all that
stuff.
So, um, so supplements likethat can be really useful.
So there's so many options butyour conventional vet isn't
going to tell you about it,unfortunately, because they just
want to sell you the drugsbecause that's easy and that's
where they make their money.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
So tell all your friends, friends right, that
have overweight dogs, they havedogs with extreme behavioral
issues, and I'm not talkingabout just panting, but I'm
talking about, you know, theyjust can't settle.
I it again.
I have to tell you, nothingmakes me angrier than people who
(38:09):
feed their dogs and they lovetheir dogs, okay, or they
wouldn't feed them.
There there's this symbiotic,you know.
They're like oh, I just I feelso good when I give my dog more
sugar and their dogs are jackedup on sugar and then they get in
trouble for not acting correct,or they get a shot caller, or
they get this or they get that.
Now, I'm not saying I'm againstshot callers on the.
(38:31):
In the hands of the rightperson at the right time, on the
right animal, they're very, um,effective and you don't have to
, you know, use them for verylong.
But I'm just saying why?
Why are we feeding the wrongfood that jacks up your dog?
They don't act right.
How are they going to get allof that out of their body, right
(38:54):
?
And then, without acting up,they can't concentrate, they got
brain fog, um, they gotarthritis, their body hurts, and
then you get on to them.
I'm sorry, that's wrong.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
That's wrong well, it's just like children too.
They, you know children's eat.
Children eat, you know, poptarts for breakfast and sugary
snacks and and soft drinks.
Even, you know, like yourkool-aids and stuff, a lot of
your fruit juice products have alot of added sugar to them and
then they're expected to sit inschool for six or seven hours a
(39:27):
day and then, when they don't,they give give them drugs.
Oh, they must have ADD or ADHD.
We've got to drug them so thatthey.
It's tragic because if theyjust well change the diet and
then let kids, kids need to beout, running around out in
nature.
I've been learning about theWaldorf schools that Rudolf
Steiner started, where kids areout, they spend a lot of time
(39:49):
outside, they're learning to becreative, learning to be
artistic, whatever they're drawnto.
That's what they're allowed todevelop, and then they're
interested and not just sittingand memorizing a bunch of
meaningless stuff.
And I think we need to rememberthat dogs need their correct,
you know, activities based ontheir breed.
(40:12):
I mean herding.
Dogs like to herd things,they're active, they want a job
to do, they want to be, theywant to stay busy, they're.
They don't they're.
They're not designed to layaround the house, you know,
until you decide okay, now it'sconvenient for me to take my dog
for a walk, so we'll go do someactivity.
You know you have to think aboutwhat, what your dog is meant to
do naturally.
Hunting dogs are bred to hunt,they're meant to be out running
(40:34):
all day.
You know, and I think,unfortunately, a lot of dogs are
so dumbed down by vaccines andpoor diets and being overweight
and they're not healthy.
They lose a lot of that, a lotof that drive, and it's it's.
It's really sad.
It's really sad.
The dogs and the kids are justexpected to be like just zombies
(40:54):
and not do anything, not dotheir natural thing.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
I think if I had kids , they would have to march,
March every night like oursoldiers Around the block at
least three times.
Is that cruel?
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I think you get some really funny looks from your
neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
All right, everybody.
Well, thanks so much forlistening to the podcast today.
Remember, you can give your dogbetter, lots better, way better
, if you just head head over toa ha vetcom, right?
Because even even this, thisDobie with the, with the diapers
(41:40):
, I think that there's somethings that Dr Jasek can suggest
and recommend that maybe we getout of the diapers, and we
would love to know that.
Right, we'd like to see thebefore and after pictures.
Now you see the panties, nowyou don't.
Maybe they call them boxers forthe, for the Dobies.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
I don't know.
Tidy whities.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Right, Tidy whities, Get your dog on a species
appropriate diet, and when I sayspecies appropriate, I mean
that's the way they were createdto eat.
We have not um, um um dogs.
They haven't evolved to eatprocessed food, have you?
Have you evolved to eatprocessed food to the point that
(42:24):
it makes you healthy?
You know how many people wishthat were true, so that they
could eat donuts and pop dartsand cakes.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
The problem is they get addicted to it.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
I know, I think dogs do too.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I think, dogs and cats.
They get addicted to that sugarhigh.
They say sugar can be moreaddictive than like heroin and
cocaine in some animals and somepeople.
It can be really hard to getoff of that because you get like
this rush.
You just feel so good afteryou've had that donut or that
piece of chocolate and then youyou crash down, you want that
fix again and it was like, well,it's just food, but people get
(42:58):
addicted to it and then they eatmore and eat more, eat more.
I've heard that, like the highfructose corn syrup, which
actually you will find in a lotof pet products too, if you read
the actual ingredients um,actually makes you hungrier, so
they it's one of the reasonsthey put it in soft drinks.
You go to the fast foodrestaurant and you know you
start sucking down your, yourcoke or whatever you're drinking
(43:21):
and then you just want, man,just supersize me, because now
I'm really, really hungry and Ican't walk as a dog.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Okay, my tummy is about to drag on the ground, but
I sure do love me.
Some pump ups.
Oh my gosh, stop it, stop it,as Bob Newhart would say.
Just stop it, stop it, stop it.
All right, everybody, get overto raw dog food and companycom.
Remember, brian can help you.
(43:50):
It is not confusing.
Brian's awesome, brian'sawesome, brian's awesome.
You're going to be a rawfeeding guru in bada, bing, bada
, bing.
Nothing flat, it is nothing toit.
It's so simple.
Way simpler than feeding kibbleand watching your dog blow up
like a blowfish.
Okay, so we don't want to dothat.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
We don't, we don't want to do that, we just we
don't run to eat fish, not looklike one.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
All right, everybody, get over to raw dog food and
companycom, where your pet'shealth is our business.
And what, dr jacek, our friends?
Don't let friends feed kibbley'all.
That's right.
We'll see you next week.
Everybody, bye-bye, oh snapfind out how you can start your
dog on the road to health andlongevity.
Go to raw dog food andcompanycom, where friends don't
(44:34):
let friends feed kibble andwhere your pet's health is our
business.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Just snap.
Oh snap.
Well, hello Raw Feeders.
I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, CEOof a raw dog feeding company,
when your pet's health is ourbusiness and we're friends.
Like my friend, Dr Judy Jasek,Doesn't let friends feed kibble
Now, do you?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
No way.
No way, jose, or anybody else.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
All right, we're going to start this podcast
today with a little customerstuff.
This dog lost his companionfirst, okay, and then he got on
raw and he stopped eating.
He didn't want to do anything,he didn't want to play.
(00:40):
Uh, let me see if I can getmore of the information, but
basically it's this in anutshell.
She felt that the raw food wascausing an allergic reaction
because he was, in my opinion,exerting and acting in ways that
a grieving dog would.
But once he got back on his oldfood kibble, it fixed
(01:01):
everything.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And only a second.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
So the grief was triggering the allergic reaction
?
Well'm not sure.
I'm not sure, but because therewas a little itching going on.
But but here's what we know, drjasic, and what we've seen over
and over and over again.
If you're coming off of a foodthat has lots of different
ingredients in it that ourcarnivores don't need, shouldn't
eat, ingredients in it that ourcarnivores don't need,
(01:28):
shouldn't eat they probably aregoing to itch for a while.
Why?
Because it's coming out, theskin coming at your skin.
It's got to get out.
Either we got to vomit or wegot to itch, or we got to poop,
or we got to cough or get chillsor something like that.
How do you get the crap out ofyour body if it's not that okay?
And this absolutely freaks ourpet parents out and
(01:51):
unfortunately we can't stop themfrom running back to get the
thing that is not going to begood for the dog in the first
place.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
They got diarrhea because we're transitioning them
and their bodies can now detox,so so they're going through
this detox.
Then you put them on all thetoxins and the diarrhea goes
away.
So that's yeah, that'sfrustrating, Because what do you
say?
I mean, we try to, becausewe've tried to tell people that
this could happen.
Your pet may go through a detox.
(02:18):
It's a good thing.
They're getting all the crapout, but you know, some people
it's just too much for them.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Here's the other thing, guys.
Um, it's very, very, very, very,very did I say very dr jayzik
difficult to say one more time,very uh, to tell what the heck
your dog is responding to if wehave a lot of things going into
their body.
Okay, so now let me just readthis, because this is coming
(02:49):
from the customer and this willgive you a better idea of what
she was dealing with.
But she said you know, it'sbeen a roller coaster since they
started their dog on the rawfood diet.
And she said I think we figured, figured something out.
I think he is having an extremeallergic reaction.
Um, and and, dr jasek, what youand I see is an extreme
(03:14):
allergic reaction is if the dogis biting and pulling their hair
out, making themselves bleed.
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
yeah, that would be extreme.
That would be like or likerip-roaring bloody diarrhea or
something like that okay.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So, um, this sweet pet parent said I'm putting the
raw diet on hold right nowbecause he has become bizarre in
his behavior.
She said his whole personalitychanged, um, from the saturday
night.
So this was uh, what night wasthis?
(03:48):
Uh, tuesday, saturday, put himon raw tuesday.
This voicemail is coming in andsaying that, um, he was having,
you know, a personality change.
I do want to come back to thatin a second.
But they said, um, we thought hewas just grieving the loss of
his brother and now I realizedhe had an anxiety attack on
(04:09):
Saturday night.
Now I want to talk about thatin a second too.
Let me finish another one.
Last night, um, it kept us upall night and um, so I had some
allergy pills from his I don'tknow what this is, zt so I gave
him that and it seemed to do thetrick.
I also gave him melatonin andso, anyway, I'm not sure.
(04:40):
Let's go back to one thing, andthis is where we really have to
help our pet parents parse thisthing apart, because we don't
see this as bizarre behavior,certainly if a dog has lost
another dog, um, becauseprobably the pet parents are
(05:00):
grieving, right, and and youjust wrote a paper on grief.
Grief is a very strong emotionand it's going to be felt by the
parents as well as the pet.
But we talked about the allergy, the allergy attack.
But what would an anxietyattack look like in a dog?
(05:24):
I?
What would that look like?
It's a really good question.
Well, I mean, was he likepacing and breathing heavy?
And I?
You know, if we see that pacingand breathing heavy, um or
whining, we might think bloat oran obstruction.
Right, that may be somethingthat I would see.
(05:44):
Now I have seen dogs that go tothe vet and they don't want to
be at the vet.
I don't know why, but theydon't want to be at the vet, you
know, for something's freakingthem out and they are panting
and maybe pacing.
So I don't know if that wouldbe it or not.
That's certainly not, in mybook, bizarre behavior.
(06:05):
But again, real food, real rawfood, will never cause a
reaction like that.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
It causes the opposite.
In my experience it causes them.
But what I hear back from petparents that transition to raw
is it helps calm them down,they're more attentive, they're
easier to train, they'reactually less anxious and
agitated.
And I wonder in this dog, maybehe was looking for his buddy.
(06:38):
You know, sometimes if dogs arereally close, depending on how
bonded they are, and one dies.
I mean, sometimes dogs justkind of go with the flow and
it's no big deal, but if they'reused to being together they
will look for their buddy, kindof wander around and like
where'd they go?
Where'd they go?
I got to go find them, kind ofthing.
So I wonder if maybe it was inpart that picking up on their
(07:00):
pet parents grief, and there'sso many other things.
This is another.
You know, we always say there'smore to the story.
What else was going on?
You know, did they have peoplevisiting?
Was there any changes in thehousehold?
You know, were there otherstressors in the family?
You know, in the humans andwhat else was going on?
There can be so many things and, like you said, what exactly
(07:22):
were they seeing?
And you know, was it anxiety?
Or, you know, was it somethingelse?
Because, I agree.
I don't see raw food make dogsmore anxious.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And allergic reactions.
This is a catch-all, acatch-all phrase.
Unfortunately, the pet parentsdidn't come upon that themselves
.
I mean, there's been a lot ofhelp in the pet professional
industry, the vet industry,because it's like, oh, they're
(07:54):
just allergic and you're like,are they now?
Are they now?
Or is it an issue where thefood because the food is blamed
and then the crappy food isnever looked at?
And this is this is our issue,and we're going to talk about a
new drug for pancreatitis whichyou sent me and I.
(08:16):
I find this funny because if wecould just change the food, I
damn sure bet dr Jason that we'dsee that drop.
The pancreatitis issues woulddrop.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, allergies are like the knee jerk, like they're
itching, so I know it'sallergies.
Really, how do you know it'sallergies?
There's like many reasons why adog's will itch and I think
itchy skin is the toughest thingI ever treat because there's
all these contributing factors.
You know what are they eating?
Were they on any drugs, evenpast courses of antibiotics?
(08:52):
You know, I have heard thatlike a course of antibiotics, it
can take your microbiome likesix or seven months to rebuild.
So dogs that have repeatcourses of antibiotics, their
gut's not going to be healthyand that's going to have an
impact on the skin also.
So there's so many factors andit could be things that happened
(09:12):
a while ago that's made theirgut not healthy.
So now they're having a littlemore of a hard time with the
food chain.
So maybe they get they need alittle extra support.
But it doesn't have anything todo with allergies and I've said
this before.
I think true, food allergies areactually extremely rare and
what I see is people then startto limit the diet so much and
(09:35):
people come into me and say,well, my dog just I don't know
what to feed him because it'sallergic to everything.
But it's not that they'reallergic to the food.
There's another reason causingthe inflammation and the itchy
skin and you have to pick thatapart and sometimes you don't
know, you just can't figure itout.
But the popular narrative, likeyou said, is that, oh, it's a
(09:57):
food allergy, so the vets wantto put them on these hydrolyzed
protein, which are horrible,horrible diets.
It's like the worst thing.
I mean, it's like putting yourdog on a vegan diet or something
like there's no real food inthose at all.
It's a really terrible diet.
But they're going under thepresumption that, well, it's a
protein allergy and instead oftrying all these different
proteins, let's just break theprotein down so much and process
(10:20):
it so much that there's just noway that it could, you know,
cause allergies.
And even that doesn't work,because I work with people that
are like I've tried all thesedifferent foods and this
hydrolyzed protein and my dog'sstill at cheat because they're
not getting to the bottom of theproblem.
So you need to make sure you'redigging deep enough and getting
to the root of the problem.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And I, I'm just going to say this you guys, uh, it's
just been 25 years, but I'm justgonna, you know, go out on a
limb and say I've never seen adog get anxious on a real food,
that either, real raw food.
Now you could say, you can makea case and say, well, farmer's
dog is real food, yeah, it's not, it's not raw, okay.
(10:58):
So I'm saying real raw, that'sminus all the crap.
If it's meat, bones, bones,organ and fat, what in that?
Is it the bone that's going tomake him anxious?
Is it the meat?
I mean, why would our Godcreate an animal to not be able
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to eat that which he is designedto eat?
Now, that's different.
That's a different statementthan saying your dog's gut's
been jacked up from x, y and z.
Okay, those are two differentthings.
But even if your dog's gut wasjacked up, dr jasic, you
wouldn't keep jacking it up withmore right you gotta godly food
(11:43):
, you gotta eliminate theproblem and that's you know.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's hard for some people to realize.
Well, they go back to feedingkibble and their pet seems to do
better.
But it's actually in the longrun going to make their pet less
healthy.
So you've got to get get rid ofthe kibble.
Maybe to do do some support.
Maybe they need some enzymes orsome herbs to help soothe the
gut, maybe help to ease thattransition just a little bit.
(12:08):
Sometimes things like that canhelp.
Be sure they're warming thefood.
I just did a little video onFacebook on the importance of
warming the food.
It got like 800 views orsomething Really Like.
People don't know this, butanyway I'm glad people are
paying attention because, likeyou know, it's important
(12:31):
information and sometimes littlethings like that, like feeding
the food cold, sometimes that'senough to just upset the stomach
and interrupt normal digestionand make that transition even
harder.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, all right.
So no kibble Friends.
Don't let friends feed kibble,ever, for no reason.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I don't let my enemies feed it either, honestly
, because I care about the pets.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Right, that's so right, that's so right.
All right, let's do a littleupdate on the Dobie, the
Doberman Pinscher that washaving the prostate issue.
Sure that was having the theprostate issue?
Um, she did listen to theprogram and she um she said
thank you again.
It's so hard to find anyinformation on prostate health
because nobody really talks muchabout it, so you have no idea
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how much it means to me.
Please let Didi and Dr Jasekknow how much they're um helping
animals.
Even if most don't listen orappreciate it, there are many of
us like me who do and I believemy dogs are becoming healthier
with the knowledge I have gained.
Please keep doing what you'redoing.
So thank you so much, but youhad a couple of other questions,
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dr Jacek, that we wanted to getfrom this sweet pet parent and
she sent some more informationto us.
But basically, you need youneed more information like what
are the symptoms?
Um, does he have an abnormalurination, defecation?
And what diagnostics were done,especially imaging, because, as
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I was reading this, this poordoby, he's in a diaper 24 7, oh
so he's like dribbling urine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah so, um, I don'tknow if you had a chance to, uh
, take a look, I'm trying to getthis thing to pop up, but um,
so she did have a test done, adna test, where you asked if
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this dog was um willowbrand'sdisease yeah, right, so she did
yeah, she got the test for thatand that's why they chose not to
neuter him.
Uh, they, they haven't done aclotting test, but they um feel
that what they've seen is to youknow, a lot of he bleeds a lot
(14:48):
over small scratches um, lastyear, right before switching to
raw, she, she did say,unfortunately they, they had him
vaccinated for the second time,so I think that would be rabies
, um, and then um he, about sixmonths ago in august is when he
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started bleeding profusely fromhis penis and had that bloody
urine and so from thaturinalysis, the ultrasound is
where they saw the cyst but notumors.
And um, they've they um,they've just kept an eye on it.
But they said in the lastcouple of months he started
having incontinence, you knowthat weaker urine stream and
(15:33):
some difficulty pooping.
But the vet said that theydidn't feel like the cysts were
any bigger and he does not havean infection of any kind.
But he is in that diaper, poorlittle guy.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That's tough.
If it's a cyst, you know thereare Chinese herbs that can
actually help with that and helpwith the incontinence.
That's what.
I wasn't sure of was exactlywhat they were seeing.
But if he's incontinence, andwe know it's a cyst and it's not
a tumor, then you know thereare some Chinese herbs that
could perhaps help with that.
So if they wanted to reach outto us, we could, we could, we
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could certainly help them withthat and we might be able to
improve his quality of life, gethim out of the diaper, Cause
that's not a good quality oflife for dogs.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
That's hard on pet parents too, dr Jessica.
I mean, it really is just a.
You know these anytime they runoutside, like when Laza's in
heat.
You know anytime they runoutside, like when las is in
heat you know, we got our nicelittle panties on her and, um,
you know the door be open out tothe backyard and I'm not
looking.
She comes back in.
She got, she got a present.
Yeah, she had to go.
Yeah, and those aren'tdisposable, mind you.
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So anyway, uh, it's not easy onthe pet parents.
So, yeah, check out Dr Jasek'steam.
They're over at ahavetcom.
All right, dr Jasek.
As if there wasn't enough drugsfor dogs out there, we got a new
one for pancreatitis.
And you know what I noticedabout this, dr Jasek?
(17:05):
They said something that is sorelevant to the raw diet.
They said something that is sorelevant to the raw diet and,
and they said that, pancreatitis, because there's not enough
like moisture water in in there.
Let me just get the right words.
What was I reading here?
It was like it's a?
Uh, how it works, where is it?
(17:26):
Maybe I'm on.
I was reading about this drugand I was like, okay, okay, well
, if you just switch over to araw diet, then maybe.
Oh, the dehydration, thedehydration wheel, okay, I was
looking at that.
Dehydration is a common symptomof gastrointestinal issues such
as pancreatitis.
So if you really want to lookat how does a dog become
(17:50):
dehydrated, well, if your dog iseating kibble 100%.
That dog is dehydrated all thetime.
Is that a correct statement, drJasek?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, I would say so Because you know kibble is about
maybe 10% moisture On youraverage.
Your fresh food diet, raw fooddiet about 70% moisture.
So they're, they're getting a,they're having a moisture
deficit just by eating.
So the food is dehydrating them.
Are they going to drink enoughto make up for that?
(18:23):
You know, you don't, you don'tknow, you don't know.
People say, well, my dog goesto the water dish and drinks,
but are they drinking enough tomake up for the fact that it's a
dehydrated food?
And then they go on exerciseand and they need any more.
And then that dry food is sounhealthy for the stomach
because it sits in there and itjust it sucks all the water out
of the like lining of thestomach.
So the stomach lining isn'thealthy and can't make the right
(18:46):
enzymes, and all that.
And yeah, it's no wonder it cancause things like pancreatitis.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Well, and we've talked about this many a times
Kibble.
You guys, do you have any ideahow long the bag sits in a hot
warehouse?
Because kibble doesn't have tobe frozen or put in the fridge,
I mean it's in a bag.
It can sit in a warehouse for avery long time.
(19:16):
There are oils in there, thereare things in that kibble that
go rancid, and do you see higherrates of pancreatitis in the
summertime than you do any othertime?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I don't know.
I mean I can't say that I'veever tracked that.
So I would say in general it'sbeing diagnosed more and more,
but I think more presumptivelyit's why this new drug scares me
, because there's a lot of well.
The dog's vomiting Dog quiteating must be pancreatitis.
Let's just give him thepancreatitis shot just in case
there's going to be a lot ofthat going on.
(19:54):
But I can't say that I've everreally tracked that.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So this is a shot, Lord.
Our dogs are becoming pincushions.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
What is?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
happening.
Yeah, so is this just apreventative?
Oh, let's give your dog anothershot so we can prevent
pancreatitis, or when would thisbe given?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
it's actually, and I think it's just being tested.
I actually saw this on dr judymorgan's site.
She did a lot of a little videoon this, so I don't know that
it's actually out on the marketquite yet.
Um, but it's.
It's supposed to be ananti-inflammatory that
specifically targets thepancreas.
Somehow, somehow magically, Idon't know.
(20:39):
They did a study on 31 dogs, soI'm sure they know all about it
.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Whoa 31, and do we, and we do do we know what the
rules were for being able tokick out half of those?
Because I'm guaranteeing therewere.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
They didn't publish that, but they did publish that
I think five of the dogs died,or something like that.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
From the shot.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Well, it's not clear Like some of them got sick, Like
half of those got severepancreatitis, so go figure but.
I don't know what exactly likewere the dogs.
Like it didn't say, it justsaid like the study didn't give
the details of the study.
In the little insert thing thatI read it said that you know
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the study contained 31 dogs.
Now were those dogs alreadydiagnosed with pancreatitis and
they were treating it, or werethey just testing drug safety
and giving it to them and seewhat happens?
But on that sheet I sent you itwas like the top, like two
within the top three sideeffects were GI effects, gi
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inflammation were GI effects, giinflammation.
So just giving the shot couldmake the GI signs worse, which
makes sense because it's ananti-inflammatory and we know
that anti-inflammatory is like,you know, carprofen.
It's just also rimidil or theseNSAIDs.
You know theseanti-inflammatory drugs can be
very hard on the stomach.
Now they're not giving itorally.
Heart on the stomach.
(22:12):
Now they're not giving itorally.
I believe it's actually givenIV.
So so they're giving this drugthat could be potentially hard
on the digestive tract.
So how much sense does thatmake that you're giving
something that could actuallyaggravate the situation.
And if you know oh, you knowmore than a 10th, what 15, 15,
20% of the dogs in the study getsick.
(22:33):
I mean, what does?
What does that tell you?
That's, that's not a reallygood safety record there.
You know you don't want any andthey, you know, and they do
these studies.
Number one it's not on verymany dogs.
That's like a nothing burgerstudy, right there.
Right, because they're just noteven.
They're not even testing enoughdogs to have a good.
(22:55):
I mean you should have 1000s inthe study.
Well, what they do is they testenough so they can say that's
been tested to get it out in themarket.
The real study on efficacy andsafety is out in the real world
on everybody's pets and I'vealways.
Dr morgan said when she was inpractice that she would not use
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a new drug until it had been outfor five years.
Um, I would used to say twothat she went even went five
years.
Don't let your dog or cat be aguinea pig and use any new drug
for any reason.
You know these.
I think we've talked aboutthese arthritis drugs the
Silencia and the Labrella.
I was talking to a lady today.
(23:38):
Her cat had two of the Silencia, so they're basically the same
drug, just one's for cats, one'sfor dogs.
Had seizures, bloody urine.
Now it has cancer.
It was like a 21-year-old catand they gave two of these shots
(23:58):
.
The vet said oh yeah, just giveit.
No problem Won't be a problemfor your cat.
And it's been shown now I meanthey're being investigated for
this that that makes them sickand it lasts a whole month.
So your pet gets sick from adrug like that.
You can't just take it out Now.
I don't know how long theeffects of this pancreatitis
(24:20):
drug last, but it's not like youcan just treat the side effects
and they go away really fast.
And if your pet's already sickand now you're putting a drug on
top of it that could make thosesymptoms worse like it's not a
good idea and it's not necessary.
You know, pancreatitis is aninflamed digestive tract.
(24:40):
What do we do for inflameddigestive tract?
We fast them.
We just let it rest.
It's like what do you do whenyou've got a sore muscle?
You overuse your arm, you workout too hard at the gym and your
arm hurts.
You rest it.
You just rest the GI tract,make sure they're staying
hydrated.
Give them a couple days.
The body knows how to heal andthe body will heal.
(25:01):
Now we're going to be pumpinganother toxic pharmaceutical
into our pets.
And you know what else isreally interesting is, in the
last couple of years and I justgot to think this is not a
coincidence that the, thediagnosis of pancreatitis has
gone up and up and up.
Like I was saying, even petsthat just aren't that sick, they
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just vomited once or twice thevet will say oh, they got
pancreatitis.
They are going to be given outthis drug like candy.
Any, I bet you anything, anypet that comes in vomiting any,
any sign of GI upset.
They're just going to be giventhem this drug and I bet it's
going to make a lot of petssicker.
And over time we'll we'll findout how sick because
(25:45):
unfortunately, some pets areprobably going to die from it,
and then they'll pull it off themarket, but they'll have
already made their money, youknow so they don't care.
So don't make your pets aguinea pig until something's
been out there in the real worldfor a couple of years.
Don't, don't get talked into it.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
You know what.
We've talked about pancreatitismany a times, about what are
the things that cause aninflamed gut.
Well, the wrong dang food is abig one, but then all the other
toxins that go with that, guys.
So it's not fat either and it'snot.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Not healthy fat, unhealthy fat like your toxic
seed oils in the kibble that'sbeen sitting in the 110 degree
garage in the middle of thesummertime.
Those would cause pancreatitis.
But your healthy saturatedanimal fats that are in the raw
food do not cause pancreatitis.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
No, no, no and no.
But what I know is this uh,when a mindset says my dog has
pancreatitis and can't eat rawfood, there ain't no change in
it.
So there ain't no change in it.
So I don't know that the dog'sgoing to get healthy.
(26:59):
But there may not be any changein that mindset.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
But they'll sign up for the shot, I bet you, of
course.
Yeah, brand new medication,just a shot.
Like changing the diet is likelike this I don't know, this is
like bizarre concept that, likeall my pet needs is a different
diet, but give them a shot.
That just came out.
Sure, just give me the shot,just give me the drug.
I don't care if it's beentested, I don't care how many
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dogs died from it, just give methe drug and I'm okay with that.
Change the food.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Could do that.
Is Fauci involved?
Oh my gosh, I don't know what afall from grace I mean, if
there.
I mean, come on, are there anypeople that still think this guy
is a decent human being?
I mean, come on, just theblunder about COVID.
(27:51):
And back to what you weresaying.
They could come out and say allthe apologies now and say, oh,
you know well, maybe we were nottotally correct.
Yeah, we wanted all you guysdead, that uh didn't get
vaccinated right, we lied, welied out of our sphincters.
But yeah, both, both sphincters,because you had two, one in
(28:14):
your face and one in your hindend, you know.
So you lied out your sphincter.
You're right, and I'm just likeI that makes me really angry
that that you can put somethingout there Totally false, just
like the whole cardiomyopathy.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Cardiomyopathy.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, yeah, that was just BS out the sphincter.
And everybody ate that up.
I ate that up, man.
And every dog hadcardiomyopathy and they needed
to be on a different diet thediets that the vets had, right,
it was all just bull honky.
And so this is the game it'slike.
(28:59):
Well, we know the fear.
We're going to create even morefear and then we're going to
create a solution to that fearand we know that this many of
the sheeple people are justgoing to run and that running of
the sheep is going to pay usthis much money, right, and then
(29:21):
we'll get rid of it.
We'll say we're sorry, we'resorry, right.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
But you can't undo it , doesn't undo it, no matter how
many.
I'm sorry'm sorry.
You know people hear the damage.
The damage is done and not onlywhat people put in their bodies
, but businesses that got shutdown, that didn't survive,
families got split up over this.
You know there was a lot oftragedy that went beyond the
(29:47):
direct.
You know medical consequences,the the.
You know medical consequences,the the.
You know social, socialconsequences and psychological
consequences of it.
You know it's.
It was really far rich reaching.
But oh, we're sorry.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I remember, I remember having a conversation
with a former customer, was acustomer, then quickly became a
former customer because theywere very upset that we, you and
I, uh, were pushing a no mask.
Uh, you know conversation.
And I said, well, there is noscience on that.
(30:25):
Oh, there is science on itthere.
I said, gladly, take a look atit.
You send me the science, right.
And then I'll never forget.
One of our reviews that we goton the podcast was you are
letting people in your exam roomwithout a mask and you yourself
are not wearing a mask.
(30:46):
No, because we didn't have herhead in our sphincter, that's
right.
But you know what I noticed, drJasek Nobody has written me an
apology.
Have you gotten an apology?
Have you seen one?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
No, no, usually people like that.
We block them.
We stop communicating with them.
So if they did apologize, wewouldn't know it, but I
sincerely doubt that they would.
But you know what I did so earlyon in COVID, like I wasn't
really sure, like I don't know.
And my mom was still alive, shewas 98.
So I wasn't too worried aboutmyself.
(31:22):
I can keep myself healthy.
I got ozone, I got all thesecool therapies, herbs.
I know how to keep myselfhealthy, you know.
But I wanted to make sure thatif there was anything to this
that you know, she wasn't goingto get sick.
So I was careful for a littlebit.
I wore a mask at work for alittle bit and then I started
seeing I don't buy into this.
(31:44):
And one day I just I just saidyou know what, I'm just not
living in fear, and I took mymask off and I've never been
sick.
I I mean, you know, never likeno symptoms in years since
before covet.
I haven't, by the last timethat I actually had like a like
what I would call a good cold orsomething that really you know
(32:07):
was a problem for several weeks,one of those colds and he goes
before covet never, ever beensick.
That's because you know whatyou don problem for several
weeks.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
One of those colds and he goes.
That was before COVID.
Never I haven't been sick.
That's because you know what.
You don't put crap in your body, you really don't.
I know how you eat and youdon't.
You know smoke and you don'ttake drugs and you don't drink a
whole lot, if any.
You know what I'm saying.
You guys are healthy when you.
You know, before you moved outto Tennessee, you guys were
hiking all the time.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So even here we're outside exercising and we're not
afraid.
I think fear brings it in, youknow but your fear appears.
If you sit there and you're soworried about getting sick, it's
like a bleeding cause ofdisease is is fear, because fear
causes stress in your body andit puts it in that sympathetic
mode, that fight or flight, andand you're just so focused on it
(32:55):
that you know you're gonna endup getting sick just from just
from the fear.
And your pets pick up on thatenergy too.
So when people are so afraid ofthings like bird flu or feeding
raw food causing pancreatitisor other awful diseases, you
know they'll find a reason.
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People that are.
If people are afraid enough offeeding raw and they're like
well, they've been told it'sgood, so they want to try it,
but they're really.
The fear is the overarchingemotion.
There'll always be a problemwith it, always be a problem
with it, and it'll always bebecause of the raw.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
So yeah, I just took a nurse actually some raw food
for her cat, because her catsare young but they already have
massive tartar and they haveissues gastrointestinal issues,
so what.
They're on hydrolyzed proteinand I was like she said, but I'm
(33:56):
not going to be able to do this, I'm gonna, um, I'm going to
have to have my husband do it.
I said are you vegan?
She said no, I'm not vegan.
I just it's a, it's a bacteriathing, it's a germ, a phobic
bacteria type issue, right?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
She was trained to be afraid of germs.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Right, right, right.
And I was just like, oh, I said, listen, girl.
I said if anybody was going todie it'd be me Of feeding raw
food, Because I use my hands.
I'm not saying I wash them, butI just um, yeah, don't, I just
(34:35):
don't.
It's not a thing for me.
And we have had such a big bodyof evidence that you know all
these dogs, all these cats thathave turned around, who do so
well on raw, who were sick priorto getting the real food that
they were created to eat, thatyou know, it's not just my
(34:59):
opinion, it is my experience andthe evidence of not only my own
but of others.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, you know, if this gal that couldn't feed the
raw food, if she's not a vegan,she's eating meat, does that
mean her husband does all thecooking Because they're bringing
raw meat into their house toeat it themselves?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I don't know, dr Jasek, it's a weird thing for
people Once you put the word dogfood in front of it, because,
honestly, it does look like beef.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
It looks like hamburger that you buy.
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I think you could pass it off to one of your
guests that you didn't like.
Just fry it up in a patty andgive it to them.
Just don't use the blends withtripe, because that's pretty
potent.
That might be a giveaway.
They're like this is me.
You don't want your housesmelling like tripe cooking or
(36:00):
the neighborhood smelling to putthem on the grill like right,
right, um, yeah, so, anyway.
So watch out for thispancreatitis new shot coming out
.
We don't know how it's going tobe used.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Librella oh my gosh, just horrible stuff, um and
there's so many other things youcan do.
I think a lot of times thesedrugs are sold on convenience,
um and well, and the vets aremaking a grundle of money.
I think I think I had a clienttell me it's over like a hundred
(36:27):
dollars.
Like she had tried like littleumbrella way back when it first
came out and um, it's like likea hundred dollars.
Like she had tried like thelabrella way back when it first
came out and um, it's like overa hundred dollars or something
to go in every month.
So they're making a grundle ofmoney on it.
People like it, they're willingto pay because it's convenience
.
I don't have to worry aboutgiving my pet um, giving my pet
drugs.
But there's options.
(36:47):
Like I said, pancreatitisshould be fully treatable.
You don't need to give theseexperimental drugs Arthritis.
I mean nothing makes arthritisgo away if it's bad enough.
But there's herbs and there'sjust the diet change.
Just getting them on the rawdiet, getting the weight off of
them, getting them down to alean body mass, makes a huge
(37:08):
difference.
And there's herbs, turmeric,cbd, there's all sorts of things
you can add in that will.
That will help, um, helpdecrease that inflammation.
Green lip muscle I've got agreen lip muscle.
Um, deer antler velvet productthat I learned about at the
conference I went to last year.
A guy in New Zealand sells it.
(37:29):
They raise their own deer andharvest the velvet and all that
stuff.
So, um, so supplements likethat can be really useful.
So there's so many options butyour conventional vet isn't
going to tell you about it,unfortunately, because they just
want to sell you the drugsbecause that's easy and that's
where they make their money.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
So tell all your friends, friends right, that
have overweight dogs, they havedogs with extreme behavioral
issues, and I'm not talkingabout just panting, but I'm
talking about, you know, theyjust can't settle.
I it again.
I have to tell you, nothingmakes me angrier than people who
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feed their dogs and they lovetheir dogs, okay, or they
wouldn't feed them.
There there's this symbiotic,you know.
They're like oh, I just I feelso good when I give my dog more
sugar and their dogs are jackedup on sugar and then they get in
trouble for not acting correct,or they get a shot caller, or
they get this or they get that.
Now, I'm not saying I'm againstshot callers on the.
(38:31):
In the hands of the rightperson at the right time, on the
right animal, they're very, um,effective and you don't have to
, you know, use them for verylong.
But I'm just saying why?
Why are we feeding the wrongfood that jacks up your dog?
They don't act right.
How are they going to get allof that out of their body, right
(38:54):
?
And then, without acting up,they can't concentrate, they got
brain fog, um, they gotarthritis, their body hurts, and
then you get on to them.
I'm sorry, that's wrong.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
That's wrong well, it's just like children too.
They, you know children's eat.
Children eat, you know, poptarts for breakfast and sugary
snacks and and soft drinks.
Even, you know, like yourkool-aids and stuff, a lot of
your fruit juice products have alot of added sugar to them and
then they're expected to sit inschool for six or seven hours a
(39:27):
day and then, when they don't,they give give them drugs.
Oh, they must have ADD or ADHD.
We've got to drug them so thatthey.
It's tragic because if theyjust well change the diet and
then let kids, kids need to beout, running around out in
nature.
I've been learning about theWaldorf schools that Rudolf
Steiner started, where kids areout, they spend a lot of time
(39:49):
outside, they're learning to becreative, learning to be
artistic, whatever they're drawnto.
That's what they're allowed todevelop, and then they're
interested and not just sittingand memorizing a bunch of
meaningless stuff.
And I think we need to rememberthat dogs need their correct,
you know, activities based ontheir breed.
(40:12):
I mean herding.
Dogs like to herd things,they're active, they want a job
to do, they want to be, theywant to stay busy, they're.
They don't they're.
They're not designed to layaround the house, you know,
until you decide okay, now it'sconvenient for me to take my dog
for a walk, so we'll go do someactivity.
You know you have to think aboutwhat, what your dog is meant to
do naturally.
Hunting dogs are bred to hunt,they're meant to be out running
(40:34):
all day.
You know, and I think,unfortunately, a lot of dogs are
so dumbed down by vaccines andpoor diets and being overweight
and they're not healthy.
They lose a lot of that, a lotof that drive, and it's it's.
It's really sad.
It's really sad.
The dogs and the kids are justexpected to be like just zombies
(40:54):
and not do anything, not dotheir natural thing.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
I think if I had kids , they would have to march,
March every night like oursoldiers Around the block at
least three times.
Is that cruel?
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I think you get some really funny looks from your
neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
All right, everybody.
Well, thanks so much forlistening to the podcast today.
Remember, you can give your dogbetter, lots better, way better
, if you just head head over toa ha vetcom, right?
Because even even this, thisDobie with the, with the diapers
(41:40):
, I think that there's somethings that Dr Jasek can suggest
and recommend that maybe we getout of the diapers, and we
would love to know that.
Right, we'd like to see thebefore and after pictures.
Now you see the panties, nowyou don't.
Maybe they call them boxers forthe, for the Dobies.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
I don't know.
Tidy whities.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Right, Tidy whities, Get your dog on a species
appropriate diet, and when I sayspecies appropriate, I mean
that's the way they were createdto eat.
We have not um, um um dogs.
They haven't evolved to eatprocessed food, have you?
Have you evolved to eatprocessed food to the point that
(42:24):
it makes you healthy?
You know how many people wishthat were true, so that they
could eat donuts and pop dartsand cakes.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
The problem is they get addicted to it.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
I know, I think dogs do too.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I think, dogs and cats.
They get addicted to that sugarhigh.
They say sugar can be moreaddictive than like heroin and
cocaine in some animals and somepeople.
It can be really hard to getoff of that because you get like
this rush.
You just feel so good afteryou've had that donut or that
piece of chocolate and then youyou crash down, you want that
fix again and it was like, well,it's just food, but people get
(42:58):
addicted to it and then they eatmore and eat more, eat more.
I've heard that, like the highfructose corn syrup, which
actually you will find in a lotof pet products too, if you read
the actual ingredients um,actually makes you hungrier, so
they it's one of the reasonsthey put it in soft drinks.
You go to the fast foodrestaurant and you know you
start sucking down your, yourcoke or whatever you're drinking
(43:21):
and then you just want, man,just supersize me, because now
I'm really, really hungry and Ican't walk as a dog.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Okay, my tummy is about to drag on the ground, but
I sure do love me.
Some pump ups.
Oh my gosh, stop it, stop it,as Bob Newhart would say.
Just stop it, stop it, stop it.
All right, everybody, get overto raw dog food and companycom.
Remember, brian can help you.
(43:50):
It is not confusing.
Brian's awesome, brian'sawesome, brian's awesome.
You're going to be a rawfeeding guru in bada, bing, bada
, bing.
Nothing flat, it is nothing toit.
It's so simple.
Way simpler than feeding kibbleand watching your dog blow up
like a blowfish.
Okay, so we don't want to dothat.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
We don't, we don't want to do that, we just we
don't run to eat fish, not looklike one.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
All right, everybody, get over to raw dog food and
companycom, where your pet'shealth is our business.
And what, dr jacek, our friends?
Don't let friends feed kibbley'all.
That's right.
We'll see you next week.
Everybody, bye-bye, oh snapfind out how you can start your
dog on the road to health andlongevity.
Go to raw dog food andcompanycom, where friends don't
(44:34):
let friends feed kibble andwhere your pet's health is our
business.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Just snap.
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