April 7, 2025 • 53 mins
We explore the parallels between processed foods in human and pet diets, examining how "human kibble" like cookies, bread, and even seemingly healthy options contribute to inflammation just like pet kibble does. Dr. Judy Jasek and I discuss how changing your diet can profoundly impact your health, with personal insights from my current five-day fasting journey.
• Inflammatory ingredients in processed human foods include various gums (xanthan, carrageenan, guar) that essentially function as glue in our digestive systems
• Pet kibble contains synthetic nutrients that are just chemicals masquerading as complete nutrition
• Some veterinary emergency clinics like Blue Pearl have started offering special pricing, suggesting pet parents are becoming more selective about expensive treatments
• Medications like Librela for canine arthritis have concerning side effects including ataxia and neurological issues
• Vaccines like Leptospirosis can cause kidney damage as the body tries to clear vaccine toxins through the lymphatic system
• The body's "sickness" symptoms (vomiting, loose stools, itchy skin) are often just detoxification processes rather than true illness
• Variety in pet's raw diet is crucial - relying on just one protein source or overfeeding organs can cause imbalances
• Intermittent fasting and once-daily feeding schedules benefit both humans and pets by giving digestive systems rest
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh snap.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Well, hello Raw Feeders.
I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, ceoof Raw Dog Food Company, where
your pet's health is ourbusiness and we're friends like
my friend, dr Judy Jacey.
Doesn't let friends feed kibblenow, do you?
No way.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
No way Jose.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Don't you wish that you could help people not eat
kibble?
Because we were just talkingabout this.
I mean, seriously, you knowwhat is kibble?
Okay, if we had to say what iskibble in the people diet, I
contend it's every processedfood out there.
I mean, right, it's like yousay cookies, cakes and donuts
(00:41):
right, yeah, right.
But even if, dr Jasek, you'resaying, well, I don't eat
cookies, cakes and donuts, right, yeah, right.
But even if, dr Jasek, you'resaying, well, I don't eat
cookies, cakes and donuts, allright, you could still be eating
.
Maybe you're eating pancakes,maybe eating French toast, maybe
just a lot of bread, maybe evena lot of that granola, right,
what do you think?
What do you think isinflammatory for people?
(01:03):
The way kibble is?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
for pets, anything, like you said, that's processed,
anything you know.
I mean I've heard it said thatyou know anything you're getting
that's packaged in a box orwrapped up somehow is processed
in some way.
So I mean I guess you can getlike whole grains and stuff you
know that way, but any of yourpastas, any cereal products, of
(01:28):
course, any cookies, you're likegranolas and stuff.
I'm reading, I'm an obsessivelabel reader and you read the
labels on things and pretty muchif I pick up anything and it's
got more than a couple ofingredients, I'm not going to
get it.
And I think the other thingthat I started avoiding because
I found that it like bothers mystomach, are all these gums like
(01:51):
the xanthan gum and thecarrageenan and the guar gum.
I mean you look and there'sjust what, what, even is that
stuff?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
it's to hold your insides together.
It's glue, yeah, to hold youtogether.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
And it's just put in there for like, for texture, you
know, and stuff.
So you see it in like.
What I used to do is I used todo a lot of like nut milks
because we were off of dairy fora while.
Now we're back on raw dairy,but only raw, and we're doing A2
, Aa2, which is supposed to beless inflammatory, but I only do
(02:27):
raw dairy, except foroccasional trip to the coffee
shop where I do, you know.
But it's what you do 90 of thetime anyway, right, um?
but um but the nut milk.
So you're off dairy.
You think, okay, dairy isinflammatory, right you read
what's in coconut milk or almondmilk or oat milk, and it's all
these gums and all this chemicalstuff.
(02:50):
Well, I'm like, well, thatcan't be good.
I'm probably better off havingthe pasteurized half and half in
my coffee than all those gumsand stuff, you know, because at
least it's a more naturalproduct.
Now again here we do all raw,even found an online source by
raw cheese.
So we do, we do everything raw,but I think anything.
(03:14):
I mean, if you can't, if youdon't know what it is, you can't
pronounce it, it's going to beinflammatory.
Or the other big thing and wetalk to people about this all
the time for their pets issynthetic nutrients.
It's just a bunch of freakingchemicals Like, oh, it's
complete and balanced.
And you read in like all thesenice vitamins and minerals and
whatever, I mean they put themin treats and all kinds of stuff
(03:36):
and it's the same on the humanside.
And then you read the actualingredients.
It's just this whole list ofchemicals.
I mean, if you can't pronouncesomething, don't eat it because
it's probably inflammatory.
Yeah, get some broccoli orsomething.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Right.
So I started fasting.
Let's see, two days ago I'mpast 48 hours now.
Now my husband did remind methat coffee was probably not
supposed to be involved.
So I said, well, I didn't saywater fasting, I said fasting.
(04:12):
Okay, so I'm doing nothing inthe coffee, mind you.
But you know what, dr Jason?
Here's the thing it doesn'tmake sense to me to wake up in
the morning if I can't havecoffee.
It just I'm like there's justno point to even starting the
day, you know, and luckily myhusband has my coffee ready for
(04:34):
me when I get up he's like here,hon, have a great day, that's
nice, and.
But I'm doing it right.
So I'm 48 hours in.
My goal is to go five days.
I've done it right.
So I'm 48 hours in.
My goal is to go five days.
I've done it before, I've donefive days before.
Why am I doing that?
Because I need to, because I'vegotten way out of whack.
(04:55):
I'm carrying too much weight,my joints were hurting and I'm
looking at dogs talking about,you know, kibble, and I'm
thinking well, dieters, you gotsome kibble in your life.
I got the human kibble going on, you know.
And so what a better way tokickstart it?
(05:16):
Not only that, but I waslistening to.
Everybody needs to listen tothis, regardless of your
political affiliation and whatyou think about Tucker Carlson.
He interviewed a doctor by thename of Dr Soon, and I think
it's Soon Dashong, and he reallytalks about cancer and what is
(05:40):
the cause of cancer.
And then there's also in hisseries and I can't remember the
doctor's name, you would know itif I said it but anyway, he's
talking about all of the crapthat we eat that we were just
talking about that contributesto that.
But he was talking aboutinflammation, right, and what
does inflammation do to the body?
And I think you've always saidthis that inflammation is the
(06:02):
precursor to all disease, rightIn the dogs, in the cats, in the
people.
And I started noticing my jointswere hurting and you know I was
making sounds when I got up,remnant, you know, kind of like
you know, and I thought this hasgot to stop.
So, anyway, my brother decidedto do this fasting, and so I
(06:28):
said I'll join you, I'll joinyou, and literally I had just
gone to the grocery store to buyfood, right, actually, that was
good.
So I had to take it all.
It was all fresh, I had to putit in the freezer.
So I'll do it again.
So I'm going to do it for fivedays and then that's going to
jumpstart me and I am seriouslygoing to do what I preach, get
(06:52):
back to it.
And that is not eatinginflammatory products, right, I
mean one.
I think brain fog is a hugething, right.
If you have inflammation inyour body, your joints hurt,
you're causing other issues tocome up, like diabetes, like
(07:14):
cancer, like all these otherthings.
Certainly, we know it to be afact in dogs that they feel
better when you remove all thatcrap out of their diet.
They're running around, they'renot limping, you know, they're
brighter and I'm thinking, yeah,well, I got to get to a tail
wagon type spouse again.
(07:35):
That's right.
There you go, you know, uh,yeah, it's, it's amazing.
It's amazing that you know it's.
On both sides there are somepeople that that understand it
for the pets, right, and they'rejust like me and you were like
(07:56):
there's no way that a treat thathas you know that's been
processed, that has all thesenames behind it, is going in my
dog's body.
There's no way that thatprocessed food is going in my
dog's body and I would say, okay, sure, I'll have those pancakes
that go with that veggie omelet?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
yeah right, right, because our dogs don't have a
choice.
Lousy might say can I just haveone milk bone?
Just one, just one, just one.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
She probably wouldn't even want it.
She's having a beef neck bone.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Today she's probably saying don't feed me, right,
don't feed me that crap.
But you know, I think it isharder for humans because
there's lots of temptations,Like you go out to eat and
there's, you know, lots ofofferings, lots of yummy looking
stuff.
You drive by donut shops andTaco Bell and all this stuff,
that's that, that's pretty,that's pretty yummy.
(08:54):
But I'll say, you know, we, myhusband, I eat pretty clean and
I'd have to say that when youget back to that and you do it
for a while, you really stopcraving the stuff because you
just don't feel good when youeat it, like you get your body
in a clean diet for a while andthen it's just like, yeah, I
don't really want that stuffbecause I'm not going to feel
good, you know, if, if I eat it.
(09:16):
So I mean, I used to just havethe hugest sweet tooth, like I
just loved to eat sweets, andnow, even, like on the holidays,
I'll just, you know, littletreat.
I don't eat gluten at allbecause I do feel sick of a
gluten, but you know, I'll havea little gluten free cookie or
something like I just don't feelgood afterwards because of the
sugar, so it's almost like, youknow, it's not worth it.
(09:39):
I'll have some raw yogurt orsomething like that, you know.
So I don't feel like I'mdepriving myself of anything
after you get away from itthat's the thing, though, in my
mind.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's like everybody's having so much fun in the
restaurants and if I can't bethere, then I'm not gonna have
any fun.
See, it's this concept thatthat they make them really fun
and then they then they feed youstuff that's full of msg and
and gluten and everything else.
That's not good for you, right,because you there's no way you
can go to a restaurant.
I've eaten with you and chris,and you guys are very, you know,
(10:15):
picky not picky in a bad way,but you know what has good stuff
in it and what's not.
Most people don't, right, butdo do.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, it's, don't you think, because they put you
know what's the first thing theydo, like most restaurants, they
put this big bread in front ofyou, or rolls, or if it's
mexican, like we love, we lovemexican, that's our treat.
If we're gonna go out to eat,we'd love to go out for mexican,
but they put this big thing ofchips in front of you and so,
and, and I, I don't eat thatstuff.
Chris will eat that stuff, butI still I just don't eat that
(10:45):
stuff.
Chris will eat that stuff, but Ijust don't eat the grains, the
carbs, any of that stuff.
I just feel better when I don'teat it.
It's pretty much some versionof meat and veggies when I go
out and nuts.
I just feel better if I eatthat way.
But it's just a mindset, you'vegot to snap out of it.
I know Snap, you know, but it'sjust, it's a mindset, you gotta
(11:05):
snap out of it you know, I know, snap out of it, didi.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
What do you think I was gonna ask you this?
I, whenever I have eatentortilla chips okay, at a
Mexican restaurant, I almostfeel like I'm drunk.
I get.
I mean, it's like, it's a weird, like my equilibrium goes off.
What's that?
Is that gluten?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I don't know.
Could be because gluten Wellcorn, well, corn doesn't have
gluten in it.
But if they're fried you knowlike those are basically fried
tortillas, so you don't knowwhat kind of oil that they're
fried in.
Or if it's like GMO corn.
If it's not healthy corngenetically modified corn the
(11:47):
corn may not be good for you.
So it's like gmo corn.
If it's not healthy corngenetically modified corn the
corn may not be good for you.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
so it might like inflame your brain.
So man it it.
It really has done, and it'snot one or two times, it has
been every time and it was no,no no, are you sure you're not
having margarita along withthose?
There it is.
That's what it is.
How many margaritas you havewith the chips?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
because that might be the issue, because I feel a
little drunk sometimes when IMexican food, but I don't think
it's the tortillas right, hey,so let's talk a little bit about
um we were.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
We've talked a lot on this podcast about how
expensive um the dog health, themedical field has gotten right,
the, the, the, the vac, uh, theuh, vcas and all that kind of
stuff.
You sent me something that Ithought was I.
I can't believe they did.
It was a blue pearl that yousaid pearl.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, starting to drop their pricing, yeah they
were sending out specials to thevets, which I thought was
interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Wow.
So they're seeing.
Don't you think that if they'redropping their prices, that
only means one thing, dr Jason,that people have backed off?
Pet parents have backed offtaking their pets in One because
it's so daggum expensive.
But I have seldom seen whereyou know they back down those
(13:14):
prices.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
So that was quite interesting, I've never seen
emergency clinics run a special,but the prices have gone up and
up.
I mean, you walk in the door ofan emergency clinic and it's
going to be a thousand bucksmost places, and that's all
around the country and a lot ofpeople just can't afford it.
And, sadly, if it's somethinglike like one of the things on
(13:38):
there was like a feline urinaryobstruction, so cats get blocked
, they get crystals in theirurine and they get blocked,
especially male cats, becausetheir little urethra is so small
.
Well, they can't live that way.
They don't have the surgery,they have to euthanize them and
(14:00):
so, sadly, a lot of pets areprobably getting euthanized
because their pet parents can'tafford the cost of the care and
they've just been jacking upthese prices left, I mean, every
year.
I'm like I'm blown away at howmuch the same procedures are
going up thousands of dollarsand people can't most people
can't afford that, you know Imean.
(14:22):
Or they just have to make ajudgment call.
You know how much money youknow are they able to put into
their pet.
If they don't, you know theydon't have insurance, which I
think pet insurance can reallyhelp.
If you have a just an accidentand illness policy that could
pay.
80% of, you know doesn't needto cover wellness or anything,
but, you know, because that'smore affordable.
But accident or illness whereyou might, you know, might be 10
(14:44):
grand or something at the ERthat could make the difference
between whether or not you canget your pet fixed or, you know,
you have to euthanize it.
But yeah, the only reasonthey're running that special is
because they're not.
Their business is dropped off.
I think they've just reachedtheir price point where yeah,
this you know people have gonedown in what they're and there's
(15:04):
more and more competition tobecause there's more and more
corporate clinics.
So that was directed to theveterinarians.
So they're counting on theveterinarian is the general
practitioner veterinarians andnot ER vets to tell their
clients, hey, when they'rereferring them out to an ER, say
, hey, this ER has a special onthis condition.
(15:26):
You go there and you know, save20%.
So it sounds like there there'smore competition now between
the different emergencyhospitals.
But, yeah, I found that wasreally interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
They squeezed the pet parents so much that their
sphincter was starting to pucker, so they had to bring those
prices down right.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Because people got to afford to buy the raw food.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, feed your dogs well and they will be well.
Now see, that would have been agood tagline too.
That's a good tagline too Feedthem well and they will be well.
Feed them well to be well.
There you go.
Okay, hey, I was talking withsome people the other day and
they were saying, yeah, my vetwanted my dog to get on Librella
(16:14):
.
And they said, and pretty soonafter my dog was on Librella,
you know the arthriticmedication let's don't change
the food, let's just give himthe Librella.
This dog got ataxia, so bad, andshe said and I went to my vet
(16:42):
and my vet said well, out of amillion dogs, a million dogs,
there's probably only you know16.
At where she came up, thisnumber is weird.
She goes.
You know, 16 dogs out of amillion.
That would have a side effectfrom a labrador.
And she goes.
Well, I guess my dog's one ofthe 16.
And I was like just changetheir food Again.
We harp on this all the time.
(17:03):
Change their food, don't take adrug to.
You know, that's like me.
Okay, I'm in pain.
I mean, I tell my my joints areinflamed.
Can somebody just continue togive me a donut but give me a
pill to make this inflammationnot not feel bad?
(17:24):
It doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
Um, so Librella, a very, veryscary.
I said so, librella, a very,very scary.
I said, listen, that's a scarymedication.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, and the side effects are huge.
Ataxia I worked with a clientwhose kitty had that and well,
the kitty version is Silencia.
But it's the same technology,the same sort of medication
started seizuring afterwards,and it's an unusual technology.
It's like a monoclonal antibodyor something that's designed to
reduce inflammation.
So it sounds like the pets aremore comfortable, but there's a
(18:05):
whole host of side effects andjust not feeling well,
neurologic conditions,intestinal GI stuff, all sorts
of stuff not wanting to eat.
Yeah, and I'm quite sure it'sprobably more than 16 in
whatever a million, but itdoesn't matter, it's your pet.
You know it doesn't matter, it'snot at the 16.
(18:27):
And I bet that the vet didn'ttell the pet parent that you
know that?
Oh you, oh you're.
You know the odds of your pethaving a side effect are 16 and
a million.
Because if pet, if pet parentsknow there's any chance of side
effects, I bet they think twiceabout doing something like oh,
there's you know it's only onemillion, but your pet could have
seizures or your pet could die,you know, but it's just one in
(18:50):
a million.
But they might say well, isthere anything else we can do?
You know, you don't die fromeating raw what's happening.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I said no, next we're gonna give them the lepto.
You know, and I was listeningto these people talk and it's so
funny because you know we,we've been, you know, you've
been doing this forever.
I've been working with you,certainly been feeding raw for
this my 25th year this year andyou know it doesn't appear that
sometimes I have the authorityto speak on the things that we
(19:26):
do, but you know, gosh, doggoneit.
You know, it's like all ofthese things that are causing so
many problems, like, and theywere talking about why that
really wanted me to give thisdrug that you know, in case they
sniff the pee, and I said theleptospirosis.
You know, do you know how muchkidney failure happens in dogs
from the lepto?
And I was.
(19:47):
I was looking up an article andI was reading about this and in
this article it was saying that100% of dogs okay with
leptospirosis contacted it justafter being vaccinated against
it.
Tell me it's not true.
(20:08):
I'm not, it's really.
I'm lying out to my sphincter.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, amazing how that happens.
Huh, like they get sick fromthe vaccines.
Yeah, isn't that amazing.
And then the vet will stilltell people oh nope, your dog
must have sniffed some squirrelpee in your yard.
You know, it's just ridiculousthe stories that people like
sniffing pee.
So you know, yeah, lepto is.
(20:36):
It's a urinary tract diseaseand it is supposedly spread in
the urine.
But just think about thislogically.
You know dogs sniff pee all thetime.
You really think that sniffingpee they're gonna inhale some
organism that's going to go intotheir kidneys.
I mean, it doesn't even makeany sense if you think about it
(20:58):
logically.
But that's the stories andthat's what the sales reps come
in and tell the vets and thevets believe it and they tell to
their clients and clients like,oh yeah, I need something else
to be afraid of today.
So I'll just, I'll be afraid ofthat.
Sure, give my pet that shot.
And you know, then they getsicker and sicker and sicker.
Lepto is probably one of thehighest side effects that I've
(21:20):
seen.
I I quit giving that longbefore I quit giving all the
other.
I wouldn't give a vaccine todayfor for anything.
I just hope you want to do that.
I mean, I do telemedicinemostly.
But you know, if I were seeingpets in person I would be just
go someplace else.
There's just no way I at thispoint that I could live with
(21:43):
myself to inject that poisoninto into pets.
Because I did the you know,thimerosal free rabies for a
while, because I thought, well,people need to get the rabies
shot, they want to follow thelaws.
At least they're getting thisone.
It's a little safer than that.
I wouldn't do that anymore.
They just go someplace else.
Let somebody else poison yourdog for you right in this
(22:05):
article.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I was talking about um dr patricia jordan, and I
think you know who she, butshe's done a lot of research on
the vaccine issues and she saidkidney failure is a common
sequel to vaccination.
A common sequel to vaccination,right, and she said so here.
(22:28):
This is what she's saying.
She's saying the basementmembrane, okay, in the kidneys
is susceptible to damage from aclogging that results as the
immune complexes are drained viathe lymphatics and the kidney
is a big part of the lymphaticsystem.
So she says the body tries toclear those toxins from that
(22:49):
vaccine and there is damage donein this clearing mechanism.
And yet, you know you again, allyou have to do to really get
people running out to get avaccine is scare them and it's
that with everything right.
(23:10):
I don't know.
I guess you would just have todo some research and say really,
how many dogs, how many dogs inmy area, have had leptospirosis
?
How have they really tested forthat?
How have they really determinedthat that's not something that
(23:33):
most people are going to do?
So it's a safe bet.
You throw out some sort ofmisinformation we all love that
word today, right,misinformation?
And people just go running.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Right.
And the thing people need toremember too and this is
probably a big thing I learnedthrough COVID is you've got to
be really skeptical of thetesting.
You've got to ask are thesetests reliable?
No lab test, in my opinion, is100% reliable, and especially
when we're testing for diseases,because a lot of them are
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antibodies tests.
I get asked all the time aboutLyme disease and all these
tick-borne.
There's this little test thatthey do, this little 4DX test.
They do a lot in the spring.
They test for heartworm andthen three of the tick-borne.
There's this little test thatthey do, this little 4DX test.
They do a lot in the spring.
They test for heartworm andthen three of the tick-borne
diseases Lyme and Ehrlichia andanaplasmosis, and those are all
the heartworm's an antigen, butall the tick-borne they're an
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antibody.
So A even if the test for trueis really testing for an
antibody and I believe the leptotest is the same way it's an
antibody test.
It could just mean so, say,your pet did actually have
antibodies against a certainorganism.
It could just mean it wasexposed to it and the body's
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doing its job because it madethese antibodies.
Now there's lots of controversyover antibodies and what they
really are and is that testingeven valid to begin with?
But say the conventionalnarrative is true, that you know
the reason you would give avaccine like lepto is to build
antibodies against a certaindisease.
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Then your testing is checkingfor those same antibodies.
So if they have antibodies, howdoes that mean that they have
the disease?
It could just be their bodyrecognized or something that
needs to be addressing, and it'smade these proteins that's now
that are part of the immunesystem that are helping to to
(25:31):
address it.
This came up in humans with AIDS.
They, you know the AIDS testwas an antibody test.
So they said well, if you, youwant antibodies against this
AIDS, the AIDS virus, supposedly, but the, but to show that you
have it, you have the antibodies, but that's what's supposed to
be fighting it.
(25:51):
It doesn't make any sense thatif you have the thing that's
supposed to be eliminating itthat's why you give vaccines to
build antibodies but you havethe, but that's what's supposed
to be fighting it.
It doesn't make any sense thatif you have the thing that's
supposed to be eliminating itthat's why you give vaccines to
build antibodies but you havethe thing that's supposed to be
eliminating it and that's whatproves you have it.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I feel like I'm talking in circles.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Isn't that the way we're supposed to talk these
days?
We make no sense.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's nonsensical and you just go yeah, yeah, okay,
good, yes, uh-huh yep makes nosense, but you know, as long as,
you got squirrels in your yardand they're peeing.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Well, stop licking the squirrel pee, would you?
I'm sorry, I just I didn't evensee squirrels here in arizona.
I, I know, I think they're likehell.
No, it's hot here.
I'm not, that's true that'strue, that's true.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
How hot's it going to get where you are when you get
to summertime?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Well, when we got here, it was 118.
Today it is sweatshirt weather.
I'm going to just tell you it'scool today and I know that it
is snowing back in Coloradoright now.
It was snowing up at our house,yeah well, april, still snowing
.
Yeah, still snowing, but no, Ihaven't seen one squirrel.
(27:01):
Since I've been here Now, I'veseen a lot of bats that come out
at night, because where we areis by the water and the bats
come out.
Now, what about the bat peeingon you?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, I don't know.
They're spreading rabiesies.
You know that's pretty scarythese poor bats.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
They are really, um, you know, vilified bat.
You know, you say bat and theygo rabies.
Oh really, I mean does is therereally a preposterous amount of
rabies that live in bats?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I think all of the whole rabies narrative, as we
were talking about before, waspretty much just made up by a
pastor and I think the whole batthing I don't know how the bats
got the rap for that eitherLike why?
Maybe because they can flyaround so they can spray.
You know they're a mammal, youknow they fly around, but
(27:59):
they're a flying mammal, sothey're kind of bizarre.
I mean, they're really kind offreaky looking.
If you really look at a batthey're not like cute or
anything, so maybe they justwere.
It was just easy to make batsevil because they're kind of an
unusual creature.
I love seeing the bats becausethey eat the mosquitoes and we
have a few mosquitoes.
We have bats flying around hereand I'm like hi, mr Bat, eat
those mosquitoes.
Right, you know I'm not worriedabout it.
(28:22):
I think fear is one of thebiggest causes of the disease
because it's such a strongenergy that people are afraid
and I think this energetics thatwe take on and we project onto
our pets and into our householdsand you're just afraid of so
much stuff.
I think that that really playsa big role in creating disease
(28:44):
and we just got to get out ofthat fear mode and believe that.
You know, god made these bodiesand our pets bodies to be
perfect and to know how to stayhealthy.
And we're making them sick withall the stuff we're putting
into them because we're afraidof stuff that doesn't even exist
.
I mean, you know, vaccineshaven't been around all that
(29:05):
long, like, well, parvo vaccineprobably maybe since the 70s
Rabies well, let's see, probablymaybe since the 70s rabies.
Well, let's see, pasteur firststarted working on that maybe
150 years ago, but animals livedbefore that.
So, if this stuff, like wherethis stuff just come out of
(29:28):
nowhere, the sphincter, theviruses, just, you know, gain of
function labs, I don't knowwhere part of it comes from, but
what is what has happened?
What has happened?
Our world has become so muchmore toxic that's where the
symptoms have come from and ourand our culture has gotten so
much more harried and fast pacedand more technology and
(29:51):
abnormal frequencies coming fromthe EMF and all that.
And I think that's what'sreally stressing us and and
stressing our pets and justputting all these, all these
chemicals into.
I mean, to me, health in petsis so incredibly simple.
You feed them a speciesappropriate diet and you don't
put poisons in their body.
Bada bing, bada boom.
They're healthy.
(30:12):
Well, why is it so hard toconvince people of that?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
See, I say that to people all the time and they'll
say, well, you know, I just do,I just do the, the, the vaccines
that are required.
Okay, well, that's still toxinsin the dog's body.
And you know, I cook my dog'sfood.
You do, yeah, and I give themrice and I give them know, all
this and all that, and I'm like,you know, you don't even have
(30:36):
to take that extra step, don'thave to cook it.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
They're like yeah, because they got you, because
bird flu right, right man hasthat just died down.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Where did that go?
Did it flew out, flew away,just like it flew in it?
It's kind of gone.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
People are afraid of something else.
Maybe people are just afraid ofthe tariffs for now, so they
don't got to be afraid of youknow, they don't got to be
afraid of that.
I don't know.
I haven't heard anything aboutit, though.
I think they're still testingfarms, because I listen to a
podcast that Joel Soliton doesevery week and he's still
talking about it, that they arestill going on farms and testing
(31:17):
farms, and he talks every weekabout the millions and millions
of birds that are being killed.
So I think they're stilltesting farms, but I have not
heard about it in like the petfood industry.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Who was I listening to the other day?
It was a female.
Who was it?
Anyway, she said, basicallythat was Gavin Newsom, you know
kind of pushed that whole agendaand is responsible for all of
so many chickens being killed.
And yeah, it's like gosh.
(31:52):
I wish I could remember.
She was quite, quiteinteresting that I was listening
to her, but she was talkingabout all that and it's just so
crazy, you know that again,these asymptomatic chickens that
never had to die, right, itkilled them.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
You know, don't kill the healthy ones.
You know you can call the sickones, but don't kill the healthy
ones.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
But then we really got to identify what sick is,
because we know that sick is notdetox, detoxing is not sick.
And you know, you and I hearthat a lot in the pet industry
where my dog is sick, well,what's the symptoms?
Well, they're regurgitatingtheir food.
Okay, that's probably not sick.
That's you sick.
There's a lot of things withthat.
(32:36):
Or even my dog's poop is loose,okay.
Well, what are you doing?
Well, I'm just giving himchicken.
No bone, no variety.
No, you know, and Lossie is verylike I've said this before
she's more susceptible towardstripe right, which produces a
(32:57):
lot of gastric acidity as well.
She'll have looser stools and Ihad Austin, my other German,
who could eat just tons of tripe, never bothered her.
So all dogs are different, allguts are different, the way they
metabolize is different.
Or, you know, like today, Igave her a full beef neck bone
(33:17):
right, or beef neck bones, andthey have a lot of meat on them,
they have a lot of bone on them, and she got her meal too.
So probably in the next coupleof days, you know, she's going
to have a lot stiffer poop thanshe did before.
And again, I can't stop the dogfrom eating goose poop or duck
(33:38):
poop.
I can't, I try, she is thefastest thing it's a yummy
little delicacy.
Let me just get over here andlick it up and um, so I, but
again I don't worry about it,right?
But my whole thing is what issick, you know, sick is
temperature can't get up,vomiting, bloody diarrhea, you
know, can't keep anything down.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Okay, I think we really need to get rid of that
word sick, because that has aspecific connotation and people
need to say okay, what is mypet's body trying to tell me?
It's pooping a whole bunch ofstuff out.
Well, what does that system do?
It gets rid of unwanted stuff.
So there must be a bunch ofunwanted stuff that my pet's
(34:21):
body needs to get ruined.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
That cool, like you get rid of all that stuff, or
maybe it's vomiting it up now.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, there can be times where they swallow
something and get a blockageetsdo swallow toys or panties or
socks and all kinds of thingsyou know, for all the stories
over the years.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
They can get a blockage.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
So if they're, you know it's nonstop vomiting the
belly is very painful.
I mean there can be some thingsthat are more serious, but the
occasional once or twicevomiting loose stools, you know
that's just the body cleaningstuff out.
You know, I mean it, it's.
It doesn't mean.
I mean I think people need toget past that.
(35:01):
Oh, my dog vomited once so it'ssick, right?
No, it's just the body kind ofcleaning itself out Even itchy
skin.
The body tries to detox throughthe skin doesn't mean they have
allergies, for goodness sakes.
It's the immediate assumptionthat dog itches must be allergic
to something.
How about?
It's just inflamed and it'strying to get rid of what's
(35:23):
causing the inflammation.
Because the skin is the biggestorgan in the body, it's got the
biggest surface area, so thebody can try to push stuff out
through the skin and that showsup like itchy skin and sores and
rashes and hot spots and all ofthat kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Let's say, if you're not putting the poisons in the
body in the first place, I knowit's gonna be fine, they're just
, they're just fine that's why,if a pet parent tells me that
they're a raw feeder, okay, andtheir dog has a hot spot, I'm
like have you had a vaccine orare you doing processed treats
(36:00):
or are you sneaking someprocessed foods?
One of the two always greenies,greenies, that, yeah, I hear
people talk about littlegreenies.
Don't feed anything that lookslike a green toothbrush, right,
that's ultra processed.
So I always know, right, Ialways know, and again they move
over to that.
Well, no, my dog has an allergy.
(36:21):
I'm like, no, your dog istelling you that this is not
appropriate for them and it'scoming out in a certain way.
So, yeah, I would definitelypay close attention to that.
The other thing that we justwant to really express, you know
, dr Jason and I were talkingabout on the human side, because
(36:43):
I'm doing this detox and kindof where I'm going in my own
diet, and it is again variety,variety, variety.
Guys, right, I know everybodygets really hung up on one thing
my dog loves chicken.
Well, okay, but they can't eatchicken forever.
Put some beef in there.
(37:04):
Let's do some pork.
Let's do some, you know, turkey.
Let's do some duck, but lambrabbit, try it.
Wow right.
Variety is the spice of life, asthey say I saw this one
customer today this was veryfunny, um buying and I know this
customer because they've been acustomer for a while buying
(37:27):
like 59 pounds of organ right,one little chubs it's a chicken
organ mix and I was like thatdoesn't sound right.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That's a lot of organ .
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Right.
So I started looking back onthe orders and typically what
she buys is the one poundchicken mix which is meat, bones
and organ.
So I texted her and I said, didyou mean to buy straight organs
?
No, I didn't.
And I was like, okay, bringthose back, because if not, your
dog's going to be, you're goingto die, real Right, right,
(38:04):
right.
And I mean I don't even know.
I mean, what would happen ifall you fed dogs were organs?
I think that would be reallybad for them, really bad for
them well you think about.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
We know that when you get too high in the organs they
get a soft stool.
Why is that?
They're getting too much,they're.
They're rich, you know, likeliver is very high in vitamin A.
They're like, well, if you feedtoo much river liver you can
get, you know, too high invitamin A, which is fat soluble
vitamin was exactly what thebody's telling you.
You know they get diarrheabecause they're getting too much
(38:43):
of some stuff.
You know, certain vitamins orminerals or it's just so rich
like their body can't break itdown and then it's not balanced
with the bone, you know, to helpfirm things up.
So your body's just kicking allthat stuff out because it's
just too much, it just can'tassimilate at all.
So we know.
Just again, look at what thebody tells you when there's you
(39:03):
know when there's too much organbut then they're not getting,
you know it's completelyimbalanced because they're not
getting the right protein andmineral balance to go along with
the organ.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
So yeah, so make sure you're pretty.
No, I was like and this was thesecond time it happened and I
was like, wow, and you haven'thad any diarrhea.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
And she did feed just the organs for a while.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Well, she must have, because the last order was just
like this one.
Because, um, you know, one ofmy employees said you know, um,
as we're, you know, redoing ourstock, they're like somebody's
is just buying out the organs.
And I'm like that's weird.
Who's doing that?
Let me look.
I mean, because that justwouldn't be, you know, unless
you're making your own, andthat'd be fine, but not at that
(39:51):
level.
And so you know you've justbeen doing it long enough that
you're like something's notright with that order.
So you go back and you startlooking at past orders and you
can see where the names aresimilar right, chicken organ mix
, which I wish it wasn't thatname.
And then you got chicken mix.
And so I think that somebodyjust doesn't read that it says
(40:11):
this is organs only.
So, anyway, you guys, whenyou're ordering, you want to
make sure you know, because thelast thing you want to do is get
the wrong you know idea.
You're like, oh, my dog can'teat raw.
Why.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Because it has diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, but you're feeding it organs and we get
that a lot.
So not that a lot.
But what we get is, oh, my dogcan't eat raw.
Because when I'm talking topeople, you know, because our
truck says you know raw dog foodand company, and people say
tell me about your dog food, andthey're like, oh yeah, I tried
raw at one time and it just did.
You know, my dog just haddiarrhea and I'm like, well, it
(40:48):
either wasn't balanced correctlyor they were just simply trying
to get adjusted right.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
yeah, well, they're still feeding kibble, because a
lot of times the kibble is partof the problem or the processed
treats, and they're feeding thatalong with the ron.
You've got to get rid of allthe crap sometimes for them to,
you know, fully transition tothe.
I do see that one too, wherethey got to get rid of the bad
stuff before their bodies aregoing to be able to detox and
(41:13):
then do well.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
On the good stuff.
I know Brian said to me theother day he goes well, this
certain customer is not going tobe a customer because I just
couldn't convince them that thedog, the puppy did not need
kibble, convinced them that thedog, the puppy did not need
kibble.
They just really they believethat all those vitamins and
minerals for those puppies isimportant and it's like all
right if you could say it likethis cakes and cookies and
(41:38):
chemicals are not something thatyou want a newborn to start
putting in their body, right,right.
But then then they're like well, what do you mean?
Well, that's what it is.
Well, no, it says 45.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
It's APCO approved.
Like what are you talking about?
It's on cakes and cookies.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
ASCO, asco approved.
Okay, I see I'm getting giddybecause I haven't had anything
to eat.
No, I feel to eat.
No, I feel pretty good.
I feel pretty good.
I'm gonna have to let you guysknow next week how I did um five
days, but I'm gonna so 48 hours.
Yes, that was tuesday, this isthursday.
I'm really doing okay.
I'm really doing okay and Ithink, as you and I were talking
(42:24):
um, um, tomorrow by two, Iwon't even notice there's food
anywhere.
Right, if you get through threedays, I think you can just keep
going.
Now, I think, at some point.
What we were talking about, guys, is that there's some research,
(42:45):
and I even saw this in regardsregards to cancer.
Now, dr jay, we know that dogsand animals instinctually will
stop eating when they don't,when they're, when they're
trying to heal right.
And what do pet parents do?
They say oh, my dog's noteating.
Let's go to the vet, give himan appetite suppressant.
I gotta shove that food intheir body.
Their body's saying no, I'mtrying to heal right.
(43:06):
I was reading an article wherethey are now incorporating
fasting in humans with cancertreatments and your alternative
folks have been doing this for along time.
There's actually a center outthere where you can go for
fasting.
It's like a whole fastingclinic and you don't get to do
(43:29):
anything.
However, when you go on theselong fasts and I'm talking about
water only, probably some,maybe some vitamins and minerals
, but 30, 40 days they're tryingto get rid of a chronic disease
.
And I was just talking to DrKatie Deming the other day and
she was saying that they had apatient who had a carcinoma on
(43:52):
his on his tongue and did, Ithink she said, 40 day fast and
it went away.
But, I think the idea is youneed to rest.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
It's not like you do that, and you especially that
long like you can do.
Oh, exactly.
Get on with your life, but whenyou especially that long like
you can do oh exactly, can'tcombine with your life, but when
you're doing that, it's and andit can be impaired.
People I've never done thatlong, but I've heard people say
that it can be rather likespiritual and introspective and
you can clear not only physicaltoxins out of your body but it
(44:24):
can help you address toxicemotions, past emotional
stresses, like you can clear allkinds of stuff because your
body isn't putting that energyinto the food and you're
stepping away from your regularroutine, your regular daily
stressors, and you're justallowing your resting and just
allowing your body to heal.
(44:46):
So I think that's that's a bigpart of it.
And and people can I do havepeople that advocate that
they'll fast their dog like oneday a week.
They have nothing wrong withdoing that.
It just gives their, givestheir gut around.
You got to look at the sad eyes.
Now that might be the hardestpart.
I had a client back in Coloradothat their whole household once
(45:07):
a month would fast for like Ithink they did like 30 hours,
like a day and a half, and shesays I can't eat.
What pets do when they're notfeeling well.
Their body says, okay, we needto use our energy to address
(45:32):
something else that's going on.
We shouldn't be eating rightnow and so they stop eating.
That's not a sign of illness.
If it goes on for days and daysand days, then that's.
You know.
That's different.
But also, I think justswitching, getting off of those
inflammatory carbohydrates andswitching to a raw food diet
that does not have all thatgarbage in that basically turns
(45:55):
to sugar in the body, is doing alot of the same things for the
body.
You're not stopping eatingcompletely, but because you're
getting rid of all those toxicingredients, you're allowing the
body to heal and the cells toget rid of all this garbage.
And so the kind of keto dietapproach is has a very similar
(46:18):
metabolic effect to fasting.
It's kind of exactly the same,but it's kind of on the way
there.
So you're having a lot of thesame benefits of fasting doing
that approach.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Well, and if you feed your dog once a day, right, so
I feed, I feed laws once a day.
So because I was looking at asI come, so I was talking to one
of my other friends who herson's an athlete, he was a
baseball player, you know, wasrecorded, recruited by Kansas
city, roy uh Royals.
And I mean this guy's a realathlete.
(46:52):
And she was saying, and this ismany years later now, he's
probably 40, but um, he, shesaid he's, he, he only eats
between, I think, three and six,3.
Pm and 6.
Pm every day.
Three and six, 3 pm and 6 pmevery day.
And she said he is the fittest,feels the best he's ever felt
(47:14):
in his life because he only eatsin that short window.
And so I was thinking about onthe pets I know it's tough for
some pet parents, they're kindof on the schedule.
My mom, she was in the hospitalhaving surgery.
She wouldn't let my stepdadstay with her because she was
like you've got to get home tofeed Gia, the little five pound
you know monster.
And I was like I think she'sgoing to be fine, mom, if she
(47:35):
doesn't have her one meal.
No, no, no, no, no, she's gotto have, you know, her two meals
.
But I think that, so you lookat it, lazi eats what in the
morning.
Let's just call it seveno'clock.
Now she doesn't eat again untilthat next morning at seven.
So if it bugs you right to fastthem, can you?
(47:59):
Would you be more comfortablemoving your dogs over to once a
day?
Now I don't know about cats,two once a day Now I don't know
about cats, but dogs I don't.
I don't know cats very well.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
You could do the same thing on cats.
I think this whole thing aboutlike cats need to eat more
frequently.
It's because cats livers getreally inflamed when they're
eating kibble because carnivorethe carnivore system is really
designed to kind of binge.
They kill a prey and then theymay not eat for a couple days.
That's what happens in natureright all the time.
So I think cats would be fineeating once a day.
Now they, if they're used toeating all the time or they're
(48:39):
used to nibbling on kibblethroughout the day.
They'll drive you crazy ifyou're trying to do that, but I
think they'd be fine eating.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yeah, yeah so, yeah, so anyway, that's what I've got
going and I'm uh, you know Ineed to, I need to walk my talk
and I just I just got myself outof line.
You know, eating things and anduh, certainly, when you guys
are stressed and uh, it seemslike everybody's stressed these
days, you know, we, we, wesometimes don't, you know, we
(49:06):
make choices based on thesecomfort foods that aren't really
going to be comfortable whenwe've gained an extra 30 pounds,
right, nobody's comfortabledoing that, and I promise you
that fat dogs aren't comfortable.
I'm just going to harp on thatagain.
There's so many fat dogs outhere and I don't know why.
I think it's because the petparents are so happy and they're
, so, they're really fit outhere.
(49:27):
I will tell you they're fithere and um, but their dogs are
fat and I'm like what ishappening?
Speaker 1 (49:33):
that's.
That's the the different.
They don't see it in their dogs, they see it in themselves and
they do it for themselves, butthey don't see it in their pets
I know, I know they're like,very happy feeding their, their
pets.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
I guess I don't know.
Listen, you guys, if you haveissues with your dogs that you
can't figure out, maybe your vetis suggesting something like
labrella or leptospirosis orsome of these other things and
you've got this little voicebehind you know, your head or on
(50:06):
your shoulder saying I've heardDeeDee and Dr Jasek talk about
how toxic they are.
Maybe you want to get anappointment with Dr Jasek and go
over that a little more.
And then what can you do tomake yourself feel safer?
Right, if you need to feelsafer about it, then then
(50:26):
there's some homeopathic thingsthat you could do or just do
some research.
But I think that you know, ifyou're working with a vet who
has done both sides right theholistic, you've done the
standard of care and they've gota body of work that they can
look at it and say, where are myhealthiest patients?
Right, what do they look like?
(50:48):
And we're going to move you inthat direction of what health
looks like and not just keepdoing what profit looks like.
Okay, that's just all I got tosay about that.
So that's it, that's it.
That's it.
Get your dog on a speciesappropriate diet.
Does that mean, guys, that meansnon-processed foods and that
(51:09):
means raw.
Is raw cooked?
No is.
Is raw freeze-dried?
Not necessarily.
I mean, you know I dofreeze-dry the raw, um, for
emergency situations.
But raw is raw and there is nofear of bacteria.
And if you have a fear ofbacteria then you need to go see
dr jay again, get yourself aconsultation so we can help you
(51:32):
get over that fear.
Okay, and the bird flu is notan issue.
So butterbean butterboom, right, definitely no.
Uh, all right, get over to rawdog food and companycom.
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We've moved it from 6 pm, nota4 you're giving you two extra
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So, um, we moved it back.
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That's right, cool, becausedogs are fat out here and we're
trying to help them.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
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Order.
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Speaker 2 (52:37):
That's right.
We're going to get your dogslim like you, like the people
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All right, everybody.
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Speaker 1 (52:54):
That's where.
Dr, Jacek is, and you've gotyour Substack.
Tell us that link before we go.
Oh, substack me.
I was waiting for my cue to dothat.
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Okay, judy Jacek dvmsubstackcom.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Okay, judyjasekdvmsubstackcom, that's
right.
All right, everybody, get overto rawdogfoodandcompanycom,
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Dr Jasek, we're friends.
Don't let friends feed kibbley'all.
That's right.
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(53:30):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Well, hello Raw Feeders.
I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, ceoof Raw Dog Food Company, where
your pet's health is ourbusiness and we're friends like
my friend, dr Judy Jacey.
Doesn't let friends feed kibblenow, do you?
No way.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
No way Jose.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Don't you wish that you could help people not eat
kibble?
Because we were just talkingabout this.
I mean, seriously, you knowwhat is kibble?
Okay, if we had to say what iskibble in the people diet, I
contend it's every processedfood out there.
I mean, right, it's like yousay cookies, cakes and donuts
(00:41):
right, yeah, right.
But even if, dr Jasek, you'resaying, well, I don't eat
cookies, cakes and donuts, right, yeah, right.
But even if, dr Jasek, you'resaying, well, I don't eat
cookies, cakes and donuts, allright, you could still be eating
.
Maybe you're eating pancakes,maybe eating French toast, maybe
just a lot of bread, maybe evena lot of that granola, right,
what do you think?
What do you think isinflammatory for people?
(01:03):
The way kibble is?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
for pets, anything, like you said, that's processed,
anything you know.
I mean I've heard it said thatyou know anything you're getting
that's packaged in a box orwrapped up somehow is processed
in some way.
So I mean I guess you can getlike whole grains and stuff you
know that way, but any of yourpastas, any cereal products, of
(01:28):
course, any cookies, you're likegranolas and stuff.
I'm reading, I'm an obsessivelabel reader and you read the
labels on things and pretty muchif I pick up anything and it's
got more than a couple ofingredients, I'm not going to
get it.
And I think the other thingthat I started avoiding because
I found that it like bothers mystomach, are all these gums like
(01:51):
the xanthan gum and thecarrageenan and the guar gum.
I mean you look and there'sjust what, what, even is that
stuff?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
it's to hold your insides together.
It's glue, yeah, to hold youtogether.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
And it's just put in there for like, for texture, you
know, and stuff.
So you see it in like.
What I used to do is I used todo a lot of like nut milks
because we were off of dairy fora while.
Now we're back on raw dairy,but only raw, and we're doing A2
, Aa2, which is supposed to beless inflammatory, but I only do
(02:27):
raw dairy, except foroccasional trip to the coffee
shop where I do, you know.
But it's what you do 90 of thetime anyway, right, um?
but um but the nut milk.
So you're off dairy.
You think, okay, dairy isinflammatory, right you read
what's in coconut milk or almondmilk or oat milk, and it's all
these gums and all this chemicalstuff.
(02:50):
Well, I'm like, well, thatcan't be good.
I'm probably better off havingthe pasteurized half and half in
my coffee than all those gumsand stuff, you know, because at
least it's a more naturalproduct.
Now again here we do all raw,even found an online source by
raw cheese.
So we do, we do everything raw,but I think anything.
(03:14):
I mean, if you can't, if youdon't know what it is, you can't
pronounce it, it's going to beinflammatory.
Or the other big thing and wetalk to people about this all
the time for their pets issynthetic nutrients.
It's just a bunch of freakingchemicals Like, oh, it's
complete and balanced.
And you read in like all thesenice vitamins and minerals and
whatever, I mean they put themin treats and all kinds of stuff
(03:36):
and it's the same on the humanside.
And then you read the actualingredients.
It's just this whole list ofchemicals.
I mean, if you can't pronouncesomething, don't eat it because
it's probably inflammatory.
Yeah, get some broccoli orsomething.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Right.
So I started fasting.
Let's see, two days ago I'mpast 48 hours now.
Now my husband did remind methat coffee was probably not
supposed to be involved.
So I said, well, I didn't saywater fasting, I said fasting.
(04:12):
Okay, so I'm doing nothing inthe coffee, mind you.
But you know what, dr Jason?
Here's the thing it doesn'tmake sense to me to wake up in
the morning if I can't havecoffee.
It just I'm like there's justno point to even starting the
day, you know, and luckily myhusband has my coffee ready for
(04:34):
me when I get up he's like here,hon, have a great day, that's
nice, and.
But I'm doing it right.
So I'm 48 hours in.
My goal is to go five days.
I've done it right.
So I'm 48 hours in.
My goal is to go five days.
I've done it before, I've donefive days before.
Why am I doing that?
Because I need to, because I'vegotten way out of whack.
(04:55):
I'm carrying too much weight,my joints were hurting and I'm
looking at dogs talking about,you know, kibble, and I'm
thinking well, dieters, you gotsome kibble in your life.
I got the human kibble going on, you know.
And so what a better way tokickstart it?
(05:16):
Not only that, but I waslistening to.
Everybody needs to listen tothis, regardless of your
political affiliation and whatyou think about Tucker Carlson.
He interviewed a doctor by thename of Dr Soon, and I think
it's Soon Dashong, and he reallytalks about cancer and what is
(05:40):
the cause of cancer.
And then there's also in hisseries and I can't remember the
doctor's name, you would know itif I said it but anyway, he's
talking about all of the crapthat we eat that we were just
talking about that contributesto that.
But he was talking aboutinflammation, right, and what
does inflammation do to the body?
And I think you've always saidthis that inflammation is the
(06:02):
precursor to all disease, rightIn the dogs, in the cats, in the
people.
And I started noticing my jointswere hurting and you know I was
making sounds when I got up,remnant, you know, kind of like
you know, and I thought this hasgot to stop.
So, anyway, my brother decidedto do this fasting, and so I
(06:28):
said I'll join you, I'll joinyou, and literally I had just
gone to the grocery store to buyfood, right, actually, that was
good.
So I had to take it all.
It was all fresh, I had to putit in the freezer.
So I'll do it again.
So I'm going to do it for fivedays and then that's going to
jumpstart me and I am seriouslygoing to do what I preach, get
(06:52):
back to it.
And that is not eatinginflammatory products, right, I
mean one.
I think brain fog is a hugething, right.
If you have inflammation inyour body, your joints hurt,
you're causing other issues tocome up, like diabetes, like
(07:14):
cancer, like all these otherthings.
Certainly, we know it to be afact in dogs that they feel
better when you remove all thatcrap out of their diet.
They're running around, they'renot limping, you know, they're
brighter and I'm thinking, yeah,well, I got to get to a tail
wagon type spouse again.
(07:35):
That's right.
There you go, you know, uh,yeah, it's, it's amazing.
It's amazing that you know it's.
On both sides there are somepeople that that understand it
for the pets, right, and they'rejust like me and you were like
(07:56):
there's no way that a treat thathas you know that's been
processed, that has all thesenames behind it, is going in my
dog's body.
There's no way that thatprocessed food is going in my
dog's body and I would say, okay, sure, I'll have those pancakes
that go with that veggie omelet?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
yeah right, right, because our dogs don't have a
choice.
Lousy might say can I just haveone milk bone?
Just one, just one, just one.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
She probably wouldn't even want it.
She's having a beef neck bone.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Today she's probably saying don't feed me, right,
don't feed me that crap.
But you know, I think it isharder for humans because
there's lots of temptations,Like you go out to eat and
there's, you know, lots ofofferings, lots of yummy looking
stuff.
You drive by donut shops andTaco Bell and all this stuff,
that's that, that's pretty,that's pretty yummy.
(08:54):
But I'll say, you know, we, myhusband, I eat pretty clean and
I'd have to say that when youget back to that and you do it
for a while, you really stopcraving the stuff because you
just don't feel good when youeat it, like you get your body
in a clean diet for a while andthen it's just like, yeah, I
don't really want that stuffbecause I'm not going to feel
good, you know, if, if I eat it.
(09:16):
So I mean, I used to just havethe hugest sweet tooth, like I
just loved to eat sweets, andnow, even, like on the holidays,
I'll just, you know, littletreat.
I don't eat gluten at allbecause I do feel sick of a
gluten, but you know, I'll havea little gluten free cookie or
something like I just don't feelgood afterwards because of the
sugar, so it's almost like, youknow, it's not worth it.
(09:39):
I'll have some raw yogurt orsomething like that, you know.
So I don't feel like I'mdepriving myself of anything
after you get away from itthat's the thing, though, in my
mind.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's like everybody's having so much fun in the
restaurants and if I can't bethere, then I'm not gonna have
any fun.
See, it's this concept thatthat they make them really fun
and then they then they feed youstuff that's full of msg and
and gluten and everything else.
That's not good for you, right,because you there's no way you
can go to a restaurant.
I've eaten with you and chris,and you guys are very, you know,
(10:15):
picky not picky in a bad way,but you know what has good stuff
in it and what's not.
Most people don't, right, butdo do.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, it's, don't you think, because they put you
know what's the first thing theydo, like most restaurants, they
put this big bread in front ofyou, or rolls, or if it's
mexican, like we love, we lovemexican, that's our treat.
If we're gonna go out to eat,we'd love to go out for mexican,
but they put this big thing ofchips in front of you and so,
and, and I, I don't eat thatstuff.
Chris will eat that stuff, butI still I just don't eat that
(10:45):
stuff.
Chris will eat that stuff, but Ijust don't eat the grains, the
carbs, any of that stuff.
I just feel better when I don'teat it.
It's pretty much some versionof meat and veggies when I go
out and nuts.
I just feel better if I eatthat way.
But it's just a mindset, you'vegot to snap out of it.
I know Snap, you know, but it'sjust, it's a mindset, you gotta
(11:05):
snap out of it you know, I know, snap out of it, didi.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
What do you think I was gonna ask you this?
I, whenever I have eatentortilla chips okay, at a
Mexican restaurant, I almostfeel like I'm drunk.
I get.
I mean, it's like, it's a weird, like my equilibrium goes off.
What's that?
Is that gluten?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I don't know.
Could be because gluten Wellcorn, well, corn doesn't have
gluten in it.
But if they're fried you knowlike those are basically fried
tortillas, so you don't knowwhat kind of oil that they're
fried in.
Or if it's like GMO corn.
If it's not healthy corngenetically modified corn the
(11:47):
corn may not be good for you.
So it's like gmo corn.
If it's not healthy corngenetically modified corn the
corn may not be good for you.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
so it might like inflame your brain.
So man it it.
It really has done, and it'snot one or two times, it has
been every time and it was no,no no, are you sure you're not
having margarita along withthose?
There it is.
That's what it is.
How many margaritas you havewith the chips?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
because that might be the issue, because I feel a
little drunk sometimes when IMexican food, but I don't think
it's the tortillas right, hey,so let's talk a little bit about
um we were.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
We've talked a lot on this podcast about how
expensive um the dog health, themedical field has gotten right,
the, the, the, the vac, uh, theuh, vcas and all that kind of
stuff.
You sent me something that Ithought was I.
I can't believe they did.
It was a blue pearl that yousaid pearl.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, starting to drop their pricing, yeah they
were sending out specials to thevets, which I thought was
interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Wow.
So they're seeing.
Don't you think that if they'redropping their prices, that
only means one thing, dr Jason,that people have backed off?
Pet parents have backed offtaking their pets in One because
it's so daggum expensive.
But I have seldom seen whereyou know they back down those
(13:14):
prices.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
So that was quite interesting, I've never seen
emergency clinics run a special,but the prices have gone up and
up.
I mean, you walk in the door ofan emergency clinic and it's
going to be a thousand bucksmost places, and that's all
around the country and a lot ofpeople just can't afford it.
And, sadly, if it's somethinglike like one of the things on
(13:38):
there was like a feline urinaryobstruction, so cats get blocked
, they get crystals in theirurine and they get blocked,
especially male cats, becausetheir little urethra is so small
.
Well, they can't live that way.
They don't have the surgery,they have to euthanize them and
(14:00):
so, sadly, a lot of pets areprobably getting euthanized
because their pet parents can'tafford the cost of the care and
they've just been jacking upthese prices left, I mean, every
year.
I'm like I'm blown away at howmuch the same procedures are
going up thousands of dollarsand people can't most people
can't afford that, you know Imean.
(14:22):
Or they just have to make ajudgment call.
You know how much money youknow are they able to put into
their pet.
If they don't, you know theydon't have insurance, which I
think pet insurance can reallyhelp.
If you have a just an accidentand illness policy that could
pay.
80% of, you know doesn't needto cover wellness or anything,
but, you know, because that'smore affordable.
But accident or illness whereyou might, you know, might be 10
(14:44):
grand or something at the ERthat could make the difference
between whether or not you canget your pet fixed or, you know,
you have to euthanize it.
But yeah, the only reasonthey're running that special is
because they're not.
Their business is dropped off.
I think they've just reachedtheir price point where yeah,
this you know people have gonedown in what they're and there's
(15:04):
more and more competition tobecause there's more and more
corporate clinics.
So that was directed to theveterinarians.
So they're counting on theveterinarian is the general
practitioner veterinarians andnot ER vets to tell their
clients, hey, when they'rereferring them out to an ER, say
, hey, this ER has a special onthis condition.
(15:26):
You go there and you know, save20%.
So it sounds like there there'smore competition now between
the different emergencyhospitals.
But, yeah, I found that wasreally interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
They squeezed the pet parents so much that their
sphincter was starting to pucker, so they had to bring those
prices down right.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Because people got to afford to buy the raw food.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, feed your dogs well and they will be well.
Now see, that would have been agood tagline too.
That's a good tagline too Feedthem well and they will be well.
Feed them well to be well.
There you go.
Okay, hey, I was talking withsome people the other day and
they were saying, yeah, my vetwanted my dog to get on Librella
(16:14):
.
And they said, and pretty soonafter my dog was on Librella,
you know the arthriticmedication let's don't change
the food, let's just give himthe Librella.
This dog got ataxia, so bad, andshe said and I went to my vet
(16:42):
and my vet said well, out of amillion dogs, a million dogs,
there's probably only you know16.
At where she came up, thisnumber is weird.
She goes.
You know, 16 dogs out of amillion.
That would have a side effectfrom a labrador.
And she goes.
Well, I guess my dog's one ofthe 16.
And I was like just changetheir food Again.
We harp on this all the time.
(17:03):
Change their food, don't take adrug to.
You know, that's like me.
Okay, I'm in pain.
I mean, I tell my my joints areinflamed.
Can somebody just continue togive me a donut but give me a
pill to make this inflammationnot not feel bad?
(17:24):
It doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
Um, so Librella, a very, veryscary.
I said so, librella, a very,very scary.
I said, listen, that's a scarymedication.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, and the side effects are huge.
Ataxia I worked with a clientwhose kitty had that and well,
the kitty version is Silencia.
But it's the same technology,the same sort of medication
started seizuring afterwards,and it's an unusual technology.
It's like a monoclonal antibodyor something that's designed to
reduce inflammation.
So it sounds like the pets aremore comfortable, but there's a
(18:05):
whole host of side effects andjust not feeling well,
neurologic conditions,intestinal GI stuff, all sorts
of stuff not wanting to eat.
Yeah, and I'm quite sure it'sprobably more than 16 in
whatever a million, but itdoesn't matter, it's your pet.
You know it doesn't matter, it'snot at the 16.
(18:27):
And I bet that the vet didn'ttell the pet parent that you
know that?
Oh you, oh you're.
You know the odds of your pethaving a side effect are 16 and
a million.
Because if pet, if pet parentsknow there's any chance of side
effects, I bet they think twiceabout doing something like oh,
there's you know it's only onemillion, but your pet could have
seizures or your pet could die,you know, but it's just one in
(18:50):
a million.
But they might say well, isthere anything else we can do?
You know, you don't die fromeating raw what's happening.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I said no, next we're gonna give them the lepto.
You know, and I was listeningto these people talk and it's so
funny because you know we,we've been, you know, you've
been doing this forever.
I've been working with you,certainly been feeding raw for
this my 25th year this year andyou know it doesn't appear that
sometimes I have the authorityto speak on the things that we
(19:26):
do, but you know, gosh, doggoneit.
You know, it's like all ofthese things that are causing so
many problems, like, and theywere talking about why that
really wanted me to give thisdrug that you know, in case they
sniff the pee, and I said theleptospirosis.
You know, do you know how muchkidney failure happens in dogs
from the lepto?
And I was.
(19:47):
I was looking up an article andI was reading about this and in
this article it was saying that100% of dogs okay with
leptospirosis contacted it justafter being vaccinated against
it.
Tell me it's not true.
(20:08):
I'm not, it's really.
I'm lying out to my sphincter.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, amazing how that happens.
Huh, like they get sick fromthe vaccines.
Yeah, isn't that amazing.
And then the vet will stilltell people oh nope, your dog
must have sniffed some squirrelpee in your yard.
You know, it's just ridiculousthe stories that people like
sniffing pee.
So you know, yeah, lepto is.
(20:36):
It's a urinary tract diseaseand it is supposedly spread in
the urine.
But just think about thislogically.
You know dogs sniff pee all thetime.
You really think that sniffingpee they're gonna inhale some
organism that's going to go intotheir kidneys.
I mean, it doesn't even makeany sense if you think about it
(20:58):
logically.
But that's the stories andthat's what the sales reps come
in and tell the vets and thevets believe it and they tell to
their clients and clients like,oh yeah, I need something else
to be afraid of today.
So I'll just, I'll be afraid ofthat.
Sure, give my pet that shot.
And you know, then they getsicker and sicker and sicker.
Lepto is probably one of thehighest side effects that I've
(21:20):
seen.
I I quit giving that longbefore I quit giving all the
other.
I wouldn't give a vaccine todayfor for anything.
I just hope you want to do that.
I mean, I do telemedicinemostly.
But you know, if I were seeingpets in person I would be just
go someplace else.
There's just no way I at thispoint that I could live with
(21:43):
myself to inject that poisoninto into pets.
Because I did the you know,thimerosal free rabies for a
while, because I thought, well,people need to get the rabies
shot, they want to follow thelaws.
At least they're getting thisone.
It's a little safer than that.
I wouldn't do that anymore.
They just go someplace else.
Let somebody else poison yourdog for you right in this
(22:05):
article.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I was talking about um dr patricia jordan, and I
think you know who she, butshe's done a lot of research on
the vaccine issues and she saidkidney failure is a common
sequel to vaccination.
A common sequel to vaccination,right, and she said so here.
(22:28):
This is what she's saying.
She's saying the basementmembrane, okay, in the kidneys
is susceptible to damage from aclogging that results as the
immune complexes are drained viathe lymphatics and the kidney
is a big part of the lymphaticsystem.
So she says the body tries toclear those toxins from that
(22:49):
vaccine and there is damage donein this clearing mechanism.
And yet, you know you again, allyou have to do to really get
people running out to get avaccine is scare them and it's
that with everything right.
(23:10):
I don't know.
I guess you would just have todo some research and say really,
how many dogs, how many dogs inmy area, have had leptospirosis
?
How have they really tested forthat?
How have they really determinedthat that's not something that
(23:33):
most people are going to do?
So it's a safe bet.
You throw out some sort ofmisinformation we all love that
word today, right,misinformation?
And people just go running.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Right.
And the thing people need toremember too and this is
probably a big thing I learnedthrough COVID is you've got to
be really skeptical of thetesting.
You've got to ask are thesetests reliable?
No lab test, in my opinion, is100% reliable, and especially
when we're testing for diseases,because a lot of them are
(24:06):
antibodies tests.
I get asked all the time aboutLyme disease and all these
tick-borne.
There's this little test thatthey do, this little 4DX test.
They do a lot in the spring.
They test for heartworm andthen three of the tick-borne.
There's this little test thatthey do, this little 4DX test.
They do a lot in the spring.
They test for heartworm andthen three of the tick-borne
diseases Lyme and Ehrlichia andanaplasmosis, and those are all
the heartworm's an antigen, butall the tick-borne they're an
(24:27):
antibody.
So A even if the test for trueis really testing for an
antibody and I believe the leptotest is the same way it's an
antibody test.
It could just mean so, say,your pet did actually have
antibodies against a certainorganism.
It could just mean it wasexposed to it and the body's
(24:48):
doing its job because it madethese antibodies.
Now there's lots of controversyover antibodies and what they
really are and is that testingeven valid to begin with?
But say the conventionalnarrative is true, that you know
the reason you would give avaccine like lepto is to build
antibodies against a certaindisease.
(25:09):
Then your testing is checkingfor those same antibodies.
So if they have antibodies, howdoes that mean that they have
the disease?
It could just be their bodyrecognized or something that
needs to be addressing, and it'smade these proteins that's now
that are part of the immunesystem that are helping to to
(25:31):
address it.
This came up in humans with AIDS.
They, you know the AIDS testwas an antibody test.
So they said well, if you, youwant antibodies against this
AIDS, the AIDS virus, supposedly, but the, but to show that you
have it, you have the antibodies, but that's what's supposed to
be fighting it.
(25:51):
It doesn't make any sense thatif you have the thing that's
supposed to be eliminating itthat's why you give vaccines to
build antibodies but you havethe, but that's what's supposed
to be fighting it.
It doesn't make any sense thatif you have the thing that's
supposed to be eliminating itthat's why you give vaccines to
build antibodies but you havethe thing that's supposed to be
eliminating it and that's whatproves you have it.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I feel like I'm talking in circles.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Isn't that the way we're supposed to talk these
days?
We make no sense.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's nonsensical and you just go yeah, yeah, okay,
good, yes, uh-huh yep makes nosense, but you know, as long as,
you got squirrels in your yardand they're peeing.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Well, stop licking the squirrel pee, would you?
I'm sorry, I just I didn't evensee squirrels here in arizona.
I, I know, I think they're likehell.
No, it's hot here.
I'm not, that's true that'strue, that's true.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
How hot's it going to get where you are when you get
to summertime?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Well, when we got here, it was 118.
Today it is sweatshirt weather.
I'm going to just tell you it'scool today and I know that it
is snowing back in Coloradoright now.
It was snowing up at our house,yeah well, april, still snowing
.
Yeah, still snowing, but no, Ihaven't seen one squirrel.
(27:01):
Since I've been here Now, I'veseen a lot of bats that come out
at night, because where we areis by the water and the bats
come out.
Now, what about the bat peeingon you?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, I don't know.
They're spreading rabiesies.
You know that's pretty scarythese poor bats.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
They are really, um, you know, vilified bat.
You know, you say bat and theygo rabies.
Oh really, I mean does is therereally a preposterous amount of
rabies that live in bats?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I think all of the whole rabies narrative, as we
were talking about before, waspretty much just made up by a
pastor and I think the whole batthing I don't know how the bats
got the rap for that eitherLike why?
Maybe because they can flyaround so they can spray.
You know they're a mammal, youknow they fly around, but
(27:59):
they're a flying mammal, sothey're kind of bizarre.
I mean, they're really kind offreaky looking.
If you really look at a batthey're not like cute or
anything, so maybe they justwere.
It was just easy to make batsevil because they're kind of an
unusual creature.
I love seeing the bats becausethey eat the mosquitoes and we
have a few mosquitoes.
We have bats flying around hereand I'm like hi, mr Bat, eat
those mosquitoes.
Right, you know I'm not worriedabout it.
(28:22):
I think fear is one of thebiggest causes of the disease
because it's such a strongenergy that people are afraid
and I think this energetics thatwe take on and we project onto
our pets and into our householdsand you're just afraid of so
much stuff.
I think that that really playsa big role in creating disease
(28:44):
and we just got to get out ofthat fear mode and believe that.
You know, god made these bodiesand our pets bodies to be
perfect and to know how to stayhealthy.
And we're making them sick withall the stuff we're putting
into them because we're afraidof stuff that doesn't even exist
.
I mean, you know, vaccineshaven't been around all that
(29:05):
long, like, well, parvo vaccineprobably maybe since the 70s
Rabies well, let's see, probablymaybe since the 70s rabies.
Well, let's see, pasteur firststarted working on that maybe
150 years ago, but animals livedbefore that.
So, if this stuff, like wherethis stuff just come out of
(29:28):
nowhere, the sphincter, theviruses, just, you know, gain of
function labs, I don't knowwhere part of it comes from, but
what is what has happened?
What has happened?
Our world has become so muchmore toxic that's where the
symptoms have come from and ourand our culture has gotten so
much more harried and fast pacedand more technology and
(29:51):
abnormal frequencies coming fromthe EMF and all that.
And I think that's what'sreally stressing us and and
stressing our pets and justputting all these, all these
chemicals into.
I mean, to me, health in petsis so incredibly simple.
You feed them a speciesappropriate diet and you don't
put poisons in their body.
Bada bing, bada boom.
They're healthy.
(30:12):
Well, why is it so hard toconvince people of that?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
See, I say that to people all the time and they'll
say, well, you know, I just do,I just do the, the, the vaccines
that are required.
Okay, well, that's still toxinsin the dog's body.
And you know, I cook my dog'sfood.
You do, yeah, and I give themrice and I give them know, all
this and all that, and I'm like,you know, you don't even have
(30:36):
to take that extra step, don'thave to cook it.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
They're like yeah, because they got you, because
bird flu right, right man hasthat just died down.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Where did that go?
Did it flew out, flew away,just like it flew in it?
It's kind of gone.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
People are afraid of something else.
Maybe people are just afraid ofthe tariffs for now, so they
don't got to be afraid of youknow, they don't got to be
afraid of that.
I don't know.
I haven't heard anything aboutit, though.
I think they're still testingfarms, because I listen to a
podcast that Joel Soliton doesevery week and he's still
talking about it, that they arestill going on farms and testing
(31:17):
farms, and he talks every weekabout the millions and millions
of birds that are being killed.
So I think they're stilltesting farms, but I have not
heard about it in like the petfood industry.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Who was I listening to the other day?
It was a female.
Who was it?
Anyway, she said, basicallythat was Gavin Newsom, you know
kind of pushed that whole agendaand is responsible for all of
so many chickens being killed.
And yeah, it's like gosh.
(31:52):
I wish I could remember.
She was quite, quiteinteresting that I was listening
to her, but she was talkingabout all that and it's just so
crazy, you know that again,these asymptomatic chickens that
never had to die, right, itkilled them.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
You know, don't kill the healthy ones.
You know you can call the sickones, but don't kill the healthy
ones.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
But then we really got to identify what sick is,
because we know that sick is notdetox, detoxing is not sick.
And you know, you and I hearthat a lot in the pet industry
where my dog is sick, well,what's the symptoms?
Well, they're regurgitatingtheir food.
Okay, that's probably not sick.
That's you sick.
There's a lot of things withthat.
(32:36):
Or even my dog's poop is loose,okay.
Well, what are you doing?
Well, I'm just giving himchicken.
No bone, no variety.
No, you know, and Lossie is verylike I've said this before
she's more susceptible towardstripe right, which produces a
(32:57):
lot of gastric acidity as well.
She'll have looser stools and Ihad Austin, my other German,
who could eat just tons of tripe, never bothered her.
So all dogs are different, allguts are different, the way they
metabolize is different.
Or, you know, like today, Igave her a full beef neck bone
(33:17):
right, or beef neck bones, andthey have a lot of meat on them,
they have a lot of bone on them, and she got her meal too.
So probably in the next coupleof days, you know, she's going
to have a lot stiffer poop thanshe did before.
And again, I can't stop the dogfrom eating goose poop or duck
(33:38):
poop.
I can't, I try, she is thefastest thing it's a yummy
little delicacy.
Let me just get over here andlick it up and um, so I, but
again I don't worry about it,right?
But my whole thing is what issick, you know, sick is
temperature can't get up,vomiting, bloody diarrhea, you
know, can't keep anything down.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Okay, I think we really need to get rid of that
word sick, because that has aspecific connotation and people
need to say okay, what is mypet's body trying to tell me?
It's pooping a whole bunch ofstuff out.
Well, what does that system do?
It gets rid of unwanted stuff.
So there must be a bunch ofunwanted stuff that my pet's
(34:21):
body needs to get ruined.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
That cool, like you get rid of all that stuff, or
maybe it's vomiting it up now.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, there can be times where they swallow
something and get a blockageetsdo swallow toys or panties or
socks and all kinds of thingsyou know, for all the stories
over the years.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
They can get a blockage.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
So if they're, you know it's nonstop vomiting the
belly is very painful.
I mean there can be some thingsthat are more serious, but the
occasional once or twicevomiting loose stools, you know
that's just the body cleaningstuff out.
You know, I mean it, it's.
It doesn't mean.
I mean I think people need toget past that.
(35:01):
Oh, my dog vomited once so it'ssick, right?
No, it's just the body kind ofcleaning itself out Even itchy
skin.
The body tries to detox throughthe skin doesn't mean they have
allergies, for goodness sakes.
It's the immediate assumptionthat dog itches must be allergic
to something.
How about?
It's just inflamed and it'strying to get rid of what's
(35:23):
causing the inflammation.
Because the skin is the biggestorgan in the body, it's got the
biggest surface area, so thebody can try to push stuff out
through the skin and that showsup like itchy skin and sores and
rashes and hot spots and all ofthat kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Let's say, if you're not putting the poisons in the
body in the first place, I knowit's gonna be fine, they're just
, they're just fine that's why,if a pet parent tells me that
they're a raw feeder, okay, andtheir dog has a hot spot, I'm
like have you had a vaccine orare you doing processed treats
(36:00):
or are you sneaking someprocessed foods?
One of the two always greenies,greenies, that, yeah, I hear
people talk about littlegreenies.
Don't feed anything that lookslike a green toothbrush, right,
that's ultra processed.
So I always know, right, Ialways know, and again they move
over to that.
Well, no, my dog has an allergy.
(36:21):
I'm like, no, your dog istelling you that this is not
appropriate for them and it'scoming out in a certain way.
So, yeah, I would definitelypay close attention to that.
The other thing that we justwant to really express, you know
, dr Jason and I were talkingabout on the human side, because
(36:43):
I'm doing this detox and kindof where I'm going in my own
diet, and it is again variety,variety, variety.
Guys, right, I know everybodygets really hung up on one thing
my dog loves chicken.
Well, okay, but they can't eatchicken forever.
Put some beef in there.
(37:04):
Let's do some pork.
Let's do some, you know, turkey.
Let's do some duck, but lambrabbit, try it.
Wow right.
Variety is the spice of life, asthey say I saw this one
customer today this was veryfunny, um buying and I know this
customer because they've been acustomer for a while buying
(37:27):
like 59 pounds of organ right,one little chubs it's a chicken
organ mix and I was like thatdoesn't sound right.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That's a lot of organ .
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Right.
So I started looking back onthe orders and typically what
she buys is the one poundchicken mix which is meat, bones
and organ.
So I texted her and I said, didyou mean to buy straight organs
?
No, I didn't.
And I was like, okay, bringthose back, because if not, your
dog's going to be, you're goingto die, real Right, right,
(38:04):
right.
And I mean I don't even know.
I mean, what would happen ifall you fed dogs were organs?
I think that would be reallybad for them, really bad for
them well you think about.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
We know that when you get too high in the organs they
get a soft stool.
Why is that?
They're getting too much,they're.
They're rich, you know, likeliver is very high in vitamin A.
They're like, well, if you feedtoo much river liver you can
get, you know, too high invitamin A, which is fat soluble
vitamin was exactly what thebody's telling you.
You know they get diarrheabecause they're getting too much
(38:43):
of some stuff.
You know, certain vitamins orminerals or it's just so rich
like their body can't break itdown and then it's not balanced
with the bone, you know, to helpfirm things up.
So your body's just kicking allthat stuff out because it's
just too much, it just can'tassimilate at all.
So we know.
Just again, look at what thebody tells you when there's you
(39:03):
know when there's too much organbut then they're not getting,
you know it's completelyimbalanced because they're not
getting the right protein andmineral balance to go along with
the organ.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
So yeah, so make sure you're pretty.
No, I was like and this was thesecond time it happened and I
was like, wow, and you haven'thad any diarrhea.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
And she did feed just the organs for a while.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Well, she must have, because the last order was just
like this one.
Because, um, you know, one ofmy employees said you know, um,
as we're, you know, redoing ourstock, they're like somebody's
is just buying out the organs.
And I'm like that's weird.
Who's doing that?
Let me look.
I mean, because that justwouldn't be, you know, unless
you're making your own, andthat'd be fine, but not at that
(39:51):
level.
And so you know you've justbeen doing it long enough that
you're like something's notright with that order.
So you go back and you startlooking at past orders and you
can see where the names aresimilar right, chicken organ mix
, which I wish it wasn't thatname.
And then you got chicken mix.
And so I think that somebodyjust doesn't read that it says
(40:11):
this is organs only.
So, anyway, you guys, whenyou're ordering, you want to
make sure you know, because thelast thing you want to do is get
the wrong you know idea.
You're like, oh, my dog can'teat raw.
Why.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Because it has diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, but you're feeding it organs and we get
that a lot.
So not that a lot.
But what we get is, oh, my dogcan't eat raw.
Because when I'm talking topeople, you know, because our
truck says you know raw dog foodand company, and people say
tell me about your dog food, andthey're like, oh yeah, I tried
raw at one time and it just did.
You know, my dog just haddiarrhea and I'm like, well, it
(40:48):
either wasn't balanced correctlyor they were just simply trying
to get adjusted right.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
yeah, well, they're still feeding kibble, because a
lot of times the kibble is partof the problem or the processed
treats, and they're feeding thatalong with the ron.
You've got to get rid of allthe crap sometimes for them to,
you know, fully transition tothe.
I do see that one too, wherethey got to get rid of the bad
stuff before their bodies aregoing to be able to detox and
(41:13):
then do well.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
On the good stuff.
I know Brian said to me theother day he goes well, this
certain customer is not going tobe a customer because I just
couldn't convince them that thedog, the puppy did not need
kibble, convinced them that thedog, the puppy did not need
kibble.
They just really they believethat all those vitamins and
minerals for those puppies isimportant and it's like all
right if you could say it likethis cakes and cookies and
(41:38):
chemicals are not something thatyou want a newborn to start
putting in their body, right,right.
But then then they're like well, what do you mean?
Well, that's what it is.
Well, no, it says 45.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
It's APCO approved.
Like what are you talking about?
It's on cakes and cookies.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
ASCO, asco approved.
Okay, I see I'm getting giddybecause I haven't had anything
to eat.
No, I feel to eat.
No, I feel pretty good.
I feel pretty good.
I'm gonna have to let you guysknow next week how I did um five
days, but I'm gonna so 48 hours.
Yes, that was tuesday, this isthursday.
I'm really doing okay.
I'm really doing okay and Ithink, as you and I were talking
(42:24):
um, um, tomorrow by two, Iwon't even notice there's food
anywhere.
Right, if you get through threedays, I think you can just keep
going.
Now, I think, at some point.
What we were talking about, guys, is that there's some research,
(42:45):
and I even saw this in regardsregards to cancer.
Now, dr jay, we know that dogsand animals instinctually will
stop eating when they don't,when they're, when they're
trying to heal right.
And what do pet parents do?
They say oh, my dog's noteating.
Let's go to the vet, give himan appetite suppressant.
I gotta shove that food intheir body.
Their body's saying no, I'mtrying to heal right.
(43:06):
I was reading an article wherethey are now incorporating
fasting in humans with cancertreatments and your alternative
folks have been doing this for along time.
There's actually a center outthere where you can go for
fasting.
It's like a whole fastingclinic and you don't get to do
(43:29):
anything.
However, when you go on theselong fasts and I'm talking about
water only, probably some,maybe some vitamins and minerals
, but 30, 40 days they're tryingto get rid of a chronic disease
.
And I was just talking to DrKatie Deming the other day and
she was saying that they had apatient who had a carcinoma on
(43:52):
his on his tongue and did, Ithink she said, 40 day fast and
it went away.
But, I think the idea is youneed to rest.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
It's not like you do that, and you especially that
long like you can do.
Oh, exactly.
Get on with your life, but whenyou especially that long like
you can do oh exactly, can'tcombine with your life, but when
you're doing that, it's and andit can be impaired.
People I've never done thatlong, but I've heard people say
that it can be rather likespiritual and introspective and
you can clear not only physicaltoxins out of your body but it
(44:24):
can help you address toxicemotions, past emotional
stresses, like you can clear allkinds of stuff because your
body isn't putting that energyinto the food and you're
stepping away from your regularroutine, your regular daily
stressors, and you're justallowing your resting and just
allowing your body to heal.
(44:46):
So I think that's that's a bigpart of it.
And and people can I do havepeople that advocate that
they'll fast their dog like oneday a week.
They have nothing wrong withdoing that.
It just gives their, givestheir gut around.
You got to look at the sad eyes.
Now that might be the hardestpart.
I had a client back in Coloradothat their whole household once
(45:07):
a month would fast for like Ithink they did like 30 hours,
like a day and a half, and shesays I can't eat.
What pets do when they're notfeeling well.
Their body says, okay, we needto use our energy to address
(45:32):
something else that's going on.
We shouldn't be eating rightnow and so they stop eating.
That's not a sign of illness.
If it goes on for days and daysand days, then that's.
You know.
That's different.
But also, I think justswitching, getting off of those
inflammatory carbohydrates andswitching to a raw food diet
that does not have all thatgarbage in that basically turns
(45:55):
to sugar in the body, is doing alot of the same things for the
body.
You're not stopping eatingcompletely, but because you're
getting rid of all those toxicingredients, you're allowing the
body to heal and the cells toget rid of all this garbage.
And so the kind of keto dietapproach is has a very similar
(46:18):
metabolic effect to fasting.
It's kind of exactly the same,but it's kind of on the way
there.
So you're having a lot of thesame benefits of fasting doing
that approach.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Well, and if you feed your dog once a day, right, so
I feed, I feed laws once a day.
So because I was looking at asI come, so I was talking to one
of my other friends who herson's an athlete, he was a
baseball player, you know, wasrecorded, recruited by Kansas
city, roy uh Royals.
And I mean this guy's a realathlete.
(46:52):
And she was saying, and this ismany years later now, he's
probably 40, but um, he, shesaid he's, he, he only eats
between, I think, three and six,3.
Pm and 6.
Pm every day.
Three and six, 3 pm and 6 pmevery day.
And she said he is the fittest,feels the best he's ever felt
(47:14):
in his life because he only eatsin that short window.
And so I was thinking about onthe pets I know it's tough for
some pet parents, they're kindof on the schedule.
My mom, she was in the hospitalhaving surgery.
She wouldn't let my stepdadstay with her because she was
like you've got to get home tofeed Gia, the little five pound
you know monster.
And I was like I think she'sgoing to be fine, mom, if she
(47:35):
doesn't have her one meal.
No, no, no, no, no, she's gotto have, you know, her two meals
.
But I think that, so you lookat it, lazi eats what in the
morning.
Let's just call it seveno'clock.
Now she doesn't eat again untilthat next morning at seven.
So if it bugs you right to fastthem, can you?
(47:59):
Would you be more comfortablemoving your dogs over to once a
day?
Now I don't know about cats,two once a day Now I don't know
about cats, but dogs I don't.
I don't know cats very well.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
You could do the same thing on cats.
I think this whole thing aboutlike cats need to eat more
frequently.
It's because cats livers getreally inflamed when they're
eating kibble because carnivorethe carnivore system is really
designed to kind of binge.
They kill a prey and then theymay not eat for a couple days.
That's what happens in natureright all the time.
So I think cats would be fineeating once a day.
Now they, if they're used toeating all the time or they're
(48:39):
used to nibbling on kibblethroughout the day.
They'll drive you crazy ifyou're trying to do that, but I
think they'd be fine eating.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yeah, yeah so, yeah, so anyway, that's what I've got
going and I'm uh, you know Ineed to, I need to walk my talk
and I just I just got myself outof line.
You know, eating things and anduh, certainly, when you guys
are stressed and uh, it seemslike everybody's stressed these
days, you know, we, we, wesometimes don't, you know, we
(49:06):
make choices based on thesecomfort foods that aren't really
going to be comfortable whenwe've gained an extra 30 pounds,
right, nobody's comfortabledoing that, and I promise you
that fat dogs aren't comfortable.
I'm just going to harp on thatagain.
There's so many fat dogs outhere and I don't know why.
I think it's because the petparents are so happy and they're
, so, they're really fit outhere.
(49:27):
I will tell you they're fithere and um, but their dogs are
fat and I'm like what ishappening?
Speaker 1 (49:33):
that's.
That's the the different.
They don't see it in their dogs, they see it in themselves and
they do it for themselves, butthey don't see it in their pets
I know, I know they're like,very happy feeding their, their
pets.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
I guess I don't know.
Listen, you guys, if you haveissues with your dogs that you
can't figure out, maybe your vetis suggesting something like
labrella or leptospirosis orsome of these other things and
you've got this little voicebehind you know, your head or on
(50:06):
your shoulder saying I've heardDeeDee and Dr Jasek talk about
how toxic they are.
Maybe you want to get anappointment with Dr Jasek and go
over that a little more.
And then what can you do tomake yourself feel safer?
Right, if you need to feelsafer about it, then then
(50:26):
there's some homeopathic thingsthat you could do or just do
some research.
But I think that you know, ifyou're working with a vet who
has done both sides right theholistic, you've done the
standard of care and they've gota body of work that they can
look at it and say, where are myhealthiest patients?
Right, what do they look like?
(50:48):
And we're going to move you inthat direction of what health
looks like and not just keepdoing what profit looks like.
Okay, that's just all I got tosay about that.
So that's it, that's it.
That's it.
Get your dog on a speciesappropriate diet.
Does that mean, guys, that meansnon-processed foods and that
(51:09):
means raw.
Is raw cooked?
No is.
Is raw freeze-dried?
Not necessarily.
I mean, you know I dofreeze-dry the raw, um, for
emergency situations.
But raw is raw and there is nofear of bacteria.
And if you have a fear ofbacteria then you need to go see
dr jay again, get yourself aconsultation so we can help you
(51:32):
get over that fear.
Okay, and the bird flu is notan issue.
So butterbean butterboom, right, definitely no.
Uh, all right, get over to rawdog food and companycom.
Remember we have yappy hourevery wednesday night.
We've moved it from 6 pm, nota4 you're giving you two extra
hours 4 pm and we, you know wedid that when the daylight
(51:55):
savings thing because it wasmessing people up.
So, um, we moved it back.
So now you've got four tomidnight on wednesdays and, uh,
if you need a consultation,brian is there.
He's going to help you.
It's totally free.
And if you're from Arizona andwe're shipping to Arizona, all
(52:17):
you have to do is tell Brianyou're from Arizona and give him
your shipping address that isin Arizona.
He's going to give you 20% offyour first order.
That's right, cool, becausedogs are fat out here and we're
trying to help them.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
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Order.
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Speaker 2 (52:37):
That's right.
We're going to get your dogslim like you, like the people
here are slim.
All right, everybody.
Thanks so much for listening tothe podcast.
Get over to ahavetcom.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
That's where.
Dr, Jacek is, and you've gotyour Substack.
Tell us that link before we go.
Oh, substack me.
I was waiting for my cue to dothat.
Judy Jacek dvmsubstackcom.
Okay, judy Jacek dvmsubstackcom.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Okay, judyjasekdvmsubstackcom, that's
right.
All right, everybody, get overto rawdogfoodandcompanycom,
where your pet's health is ourbusiness and what.
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