October 17, 2025 • 47 mins
What if the biggest myths about dog nutrition come from marketing, not biology? We dive straight into the carnivore vs omnivore debate and unpack why labels flip from “feed like a wolf” to “dogs are omnivores” whenever it helps sell cheaper, carb-heavy formulas. Our take is clear: dogs are built for animal-based diets—meat, bones, organs, and fat—and their bodies haven’t rewritten themselves in seven years to fit a new ad campaign.
We walk through what “complete and balanced” really means when you ditch synthetic-fortified pellets for whole foods. From zinc in red meat and organs to trace minerals in sardines, tripe, and edible bone, we show how nutrient-dense variety outperforms spreadsheet anxiety. We also tackle common fears: mixing kibble and raw, bacteria and domestication myths, and whether bones and gulping are safe. Spoiler: canine anatomy is designed for large chunks, strong acid, and muscular propulsion, while cooked bones—not raw—are the real hazard.
Expect practical, no-drama guidance. You’ll hear why blood sugar stability on raw can calm behavior and reduce risk factors linked to seizures, why firmer stools help express anal glands, and why warming meals a touch often boosts enthusiasm. We share simple routines for rotating proteins, avoiding supplement overload, and handling everyday hiccups—like swapped plates or a missed thaw—without panic. The result is a dog that looks better, feels better, and races to the bowl because the food finally matches its biology.
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Episode Transcript
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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Oh, snap! Well, hello, raw feeders.
I'm Didi Merchant Moffat, CEO ofRaw Dog Food and Company.
We are Pets Health is ourbusiness.
And we're friends like my friendBrian Brandfuss.
Well, he doesn't let friendsfeed kibble, but my golly gosh,
almighty, do you have to talk toa lot of them about what they're
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feeding their pets?
And I'm I bet as our residentnutritionist, your mouth
probably just opens wide somedays.
And you're just like, do whatnow?
Right?
You think you've heard it all,and then you realize you haven't
heard it all.
SPEAKER_03 (00:41):
This uh the pet industry is definitely good for
uh keeping you on your toes andsurprising you.
SPEAKER_01 (00:50):
Well, you know, um there is just the the the all it
is when we really dig down deepand look at it, Brian, all it is
are stories that have been madeup in people's heads, and
they're the those stories arethere because somebody in
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authority has helped put them intheir heads, okay?
Whether that is, you know, someinfluencer out there or the vet
industry or the pet foodindustry, it's redonculous.
It's just ridonculous that youknow, I did a podcast on how
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many years it takes, right, forevolution to actually occur in
its millions of years um tochange their teeth, to change
their guts, right?
It's millions of years, andright now these animals, dogs
and cats, are still carnivores.
So they're they're gonna remaincarnivores for at least a
million more years.
Okay.
Um I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (01:59):
I I discovered something today, I think that uh
I think it shows that evolutiononly takes about seven years,
according to according to thepet food industry.
SPEAKER_01 (02:11):
Okay, pray tell what kind of new propaganda sphincter
news are we talking about today?
SPEAKER_03 (02:19):
Well, um, you know, my favorite subject in the whole
world is you know carnivoreversus omnivore, and how you
know there's been this big pushto classify dogs as omnivores.
And you know that our positionhas always been that that's
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marketing.
That it's you know, it's the thefood has gotten even more carb
heavy um as of late.
The the kibble companies arewanting to use even less meat.
Not that they were using youknow real meat to begin with,
but they want to use even lessof it.
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Um they even want to do insectsif they can get away with it.
They want to make your yourpets' food out of insect
protein.
Um but uh but these carb-heavyyou know kibbles, dogs need to
be omnivores in order to justifyselling that product.
And the reason that I know thatit's marketing is because and I
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found the I found the commercialon YouTube, so you can actually
go to YouTube and find thecommercial.
SPEAKER_01 (03:31):
But wait just a minute.
I can play it.
I think I can play it.
Tell me if you can hear this.
Um okay, let me just turn up mythingy here and let's see if you
can just hear this.
Now, yeah, this was this thiscommercial was seven years ago,
right, Brian?
Uh about, yeah.
Okay, let's see if if our if ourif our um if our audience can
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hear this.
That was the end.
Let me let me start at thebeginning.
All right, here we go.
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So they actually are trying tosay that their kibble, which uh
is so funny, I was watching thiscommercial, they they show the
pictures of of like what ourfood looks like real meat, you
know, real food, real stuff.
And when they're when they're uhshowing the dog eating the the
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food, they never show what's inthe bowl.
Because I mean, you'd be like,wait a minute, those little
brown pellets don't look likeanything like real food.
But you're right.
So they did, they did just sevenyears ago say, hey, your dog is
the descendant of a wolf.
Now what are they saying, Brian?
SPEAKER_03 (05:22):
Yeah, I mean, when when they're selling, because if
you remember that product, theselling point was that they used
more animal protein um you knowin that product.
Um, and so when they want tosell meat, the dog is a
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carnivore and the dog is adescendant of the wolf, and you
know, you need to tap into itsancestral needs and let it eat
like its ancestors did.
And now that there's no meat inkibble, or there's you know,
less meat and there's morecarbohydrates and there's
insects, that's when they turnto science and say, hey, we need
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these things to be omnivores.
So it's you know, that thatcommercial right there proves
that you know the the kibbleindustry, you know, your dog
needs to be whatever it is theyneed it to be to sell whatever
they're selling.
So there's there's this zeroscience behind your dog is an
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omnivore.
It's 100% marketing, and thatcommercial proves it.
SPEAKER_01 (06:39):
So again, if we know, Brian, that you're a
human, you're not a um, youknow, a half uh robot, half
human, right?
We know that you're a human, sowe should feed you like a human
and uh not feed you like a halfrobot and half human, because I
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I bet that would cause somedisrupt disruption of your
health, right?
But we cannot seem to convince alot of people or relay the
information that your dogcannot, will not be as healthy
as it could be and should be ifyou don't feed it correctly for
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its species.
That's exactly what speciesappropriate means, right?
So, what is complete and balancefor our um carnivores,
meatbones, organ, fat, right?
Throw if you want to throw insome veggies, be my guest,
right?
Go right ahead.
(07:46):
You're not gonna hurt them, butthink like a wolf.
What does a wolf eat?
What does a mountain lion eat?
Right?
And um, but invariably,invariably, I hear this.
Well, my dog has this issue.
Okay, well, what are you feedingthem?
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Well, I'm kind I'm doing, youknow, half of a high-end kibble
and half raw, or I'm doing thebest kibble I can, and yeah, I'm
putting all these toxins intheir body.
Um, but that's not the problem.
I'm just like, it most certainlyis the problem.
SPEAKER_03 (08:30):
Yep.
It you know, if your car needsgas to run and you're putting
half water and half gas, youknow, which half of that
equation is causing your yourcar to quit when it's going down
the road?
You know, it's not the gas, youknow, it's the it's the fact
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that you're mixing it withsomething that's completely
inappropriate for the job.
Um so, you know, and it's justyou know, it's it's crazy that
like it the the community andthe the pet food industry is
like, well, your dog needs to bean omnivore because you know he
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can eat some carbs and he caneat some vegetables.
Yeah, and I can't crack thatthat's great, you know, but um
the the fact that they can eatother foods doesn't need that
doesn't mean that we have tochange the essence of who they
are.
You know, the wolves in the wildeat blueberries in the
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summertime because that's allthat they can find.
You know, but they you know thatdoesn't make them vegetarians,
they're still carnivores.
And you know, if they're in themiddle of the blueberry field
chowing down on blueberries andan elk, you know, a wayward elk
runs through there, I mean, whatdo you think they're gonna do?
SPEAKER_01 (09:58):
Right?
Or if if you really if youreally feel like that evolution
has totally taken place and umthat that the wolves, right, the
wolves have evolved.
Well, just go ahead and leaveyour little dogs outside.
Just just leave them on outsidein the wilderness, you know, out
in your back, like for me,right?
(10:19):
So I'm up here with all theanimals in the mountains.
I got the fox, the the coyotes,the mountain lions, the bears, I
got them all.
You know, I'm not leaving my dogoutside at dark, even if she is
a German shepherd.
She's going to be no match for amountain lion.
(10:42):
You know?
But um we are in the pet healthbusiness, so we're always trying
to uh uh recommend and advise uhbased on the tens of thousands
of dogs that we've seen and whatwe understand to be um a system
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of health.
Good food, good water, goodexercise, uh good uh common
sense, um and good pushback whenyou need to push back on things
that might not be good for yourdog.
And I said this the other dayjust because you have to do
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something will not remove theissue, won't remove the the
effects, right?
So let's just you know, forexample, if you know, let's the
whole COVID thing, right?
I had to, I had to.
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And um it doesn't matter if youhad to or not, the damage is
still going to be had stillgoing to be done, right?
So you have to think like that.
And you have to think what can Ido to keep my dog as healthy as
possible.
Um, and and and what are myoptions?
(12:08):
You have lots of options today.
I don't know where we're goingin this country.
I don't know if we're going intocommunism, I don't know where
we're going, but today, youknow, um it and and the
veterinary um profession make itvery tough.
They make it tough on petparents for sure.
Brian, what would you I do?
(12:30):
What uh what would you say tonew feeders, right?
To new feeders when they'recoming over to from a kibble
diet, right?
What are some of the things thatfrighten people that maybe they
they misunderstand, they uh seesomething and they read it the
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wrong way.
What do you see most often inthe folks that you help out
there?
SPEAKER_03 (12:59):
Uh I would say probably the biggest concern is
whether or not they're gettingeverything that they need.
Um, that's that's usually theone that we have to um we have
to spend some time discussing.
Um, you know, and and that's youknow, that's undoing all of
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that, you know, marketing fromthe pet food industry and you
know, to some degree the vets,you know, but I mean the vets
are getting it from the pet foodindustry.
So um, but uh you know,complete, you know, people used
to see you know, complete andbalanced is you know such a
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widely used marketing term, um,that uh you know, if people
don't see that on the food orthey don't see that on the
advertising or anything likethat, then you know they're
suspicious.
Um but I always ask them, youknow, what does complete and
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balance mean to you for yourdiet?
You know, what when was the lasttime you ate a you know, do you
do you even know what a completeand balanced meal looks like for
a human?
SPEAKER_01 (14:18):
We don't ever even think that way.
We never think that way.
You know, you know, here's whathumans think.
I need to stay away fromprocessed foods, and that's
smart.
Or they'll say, I need to cutback on my sugar intake, or I
need to cut back on my alcoholintake.
There is I have never heard ahuman being say, I'm so worried
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about if I'm complete andbalance, but if my diet is
complete and balanced, theynever say that.
But we're obsessed with it inthe dog world because why?
Because somebody said it.
Sort of like somebody said that,you know, boutique foods that
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didn't have grains in it, uh,you know, were causing
cardiomyopathy.
Okay, and and and yeah, somebodysaid that pigs fly out your
sphincter too, and uh yet to seeit.
Um, but we believe it, you know,we'll believe stuff.
We just believe stuff.
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There is there there is I don'tknow what the code is, Brian.
There's a code, but we gottacrack the code in in how to help
pet parents help their pets.
SPEAKER_03 (15:48):
Well I mean I think that uh I I think that the vast
majority, you know, we see wesee some pretty quick changes.
When, you know, if if you'reable to, you know, as a pet
parent, if you're you know, ifyou're serious and you just cut
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the cord and and you just switchto raw and you get all that
other stuff out of the out ofthe diet, and you feed species
appropriate raw diet, meat,bones, organs, and fat, mix it
up in, you know, a coupledifferent proteins each week or
whatever.
Um, you see the changes prettyquick.
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You know, the the dog is thedogs are excited to eat.
Um, you know, the excess weight,you know, falls off.
Um, you know, the coat shinesup, the the teeth start looking
good, the eyes clear up.
Um, you know, the the energycomes back.
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Um, I think that, you know,those kind of you know, those
kind of changes are aresomething that you know they're
not seeing those kind of changeswith whatever the vets are
suggesting they do.
SPEAKER_02 (17:12):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (17:13):
You know, they they they go into the vet's office
with a problem and they come outwith their little baggie of
pills, and two weeks laterthey're back in the office um
you know to get some more pillsbecause nothing changed in two
weeks.
Um, so so I think that we justgotta, you know, we just gotta
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get people to make the changeand then let the results speak
for themselves.
Um you know, and I mean I had todo the the same thing, you know,
when when I switched, I mean,you know, I went down all the
rabbit holes and you know, I gotcaught up in all those Facebook
groups and stuff like that, andI had all sorts of information,
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you know, coming my way.
And, you know, I had the samequestions, you know, is this
balanced?
Is this you know everything theyneed?
And eventually I had to justlook back and or just sit back
and look at my dogs and be like,you know, I don't think I've
ever seen my dogs look thatgood, you know.
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Um, and and that's where I'm atnow.
I mean, you know, people still,you know, they they're like,
well, meat bones, organ, and fatis not enough.
And you know, you better begiving them some, you know, what
what kind of zinc are theygetting?
And you know, are they gettingenough of this and enough of
that?
And I'm like, I don't think Icould go, I haven't worried
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about zinc for seven years.
And I'm pretty sure that if theyhad a zinc problem, I would see
something by now.
SPEAKER_01 (18:58):
Okay.
You want to know where highzinc, high zinc comes.
Red meat, beef, lamb, venison,high zinc, organ meats are
slightly higher than musclemeat.
Okay, liver, kidney, heart,excellent source of zinc,
copper, iron, and B vitamins.
Um, you've also got somemoderate zinc levels in dark
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meat and the white meat ofpoultry.
You've got it in eggs, you'vegot it in high zinc in salmon
and sardines.
Um, and you've also got thetraces of zinc um in edible
bones.
And there's also some in tripe.
So right there, Brian, tripe,bone, sardines, oysters, salmon,
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chicken, turkey, organs, beef.
I mean, come on.
You're gonna get a ton of zincin there.
But yet the Facebook groups willget on a mineral or a trace
mineral, and they will reallycause pet parents, I think, to
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imbalance, if you want to saythat, cause some issues with
their with their pets, right?
Because if you over-supplementwith zinc, it can interfere with
copper absorption, right?
So let's just be cognizant thatwhen you feed real food uh and
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it's got the meat, bones, organ,and fat, you're not gonna OD.
You're not gonna OD.
SPEAKER_03 (20:38):
The body knows how to regulate real vitamins and
minerals.
And so it, you know, if you aregiven it too much, which is you
know highly unlikely, um, it canmanage that.
You know, what it can't manageis the synthetic versions, um,
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you know, along with uh thenatural versions that it's
getting, you know, because thesepeople are you know, they're
feeding, you know, meat and allthis stuff, and then they're um,
you know, they're putting in allthese other things to up the the
amount that their dog is gettingto meet you know FEDIAF and NRC
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standards.
Um so, but you know, the funnything is is that you know those
daily standards, like like yourdog needs this much every day,
um you know, that's assumingthat your dog's body is using
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every single one of itsvitamins, minerals, using them
up completely each day, and ithas to be replenished, you know,
the the next day.
That would be like that would belike your car.
You have to fill it up with gasin the in the morning for for
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your day's activities.
And if you have any gas leftover at the end of the day, when
you wake up in the morning, it'sgonna be gone because you need
to fill it up, you know, again.
It's like the the body doesn'twork that way.
Um you know, and everybody isgonna be different.
Some dogs are gonna use morezinc, some dogs are gonna use
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less.
Um, you know, but they're buttheir body is gonna manage that.
And and it knows if it's if it'sgetting, you know, you know,
let's say you're eating a lot ofvenison that is, you know, uh,
you know, a higher source ofzinc than some of the other
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meats, um, you know, the thebody's gonna get rid of it or
it's gonna it's gonna store itaway for those times when it's
not getting the venison and nowit needs a little bit of extra
zinc.
You know, but let's give thebody some credit.
I think it you know, I thinkit's a little bit smarter than
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than we think.
Yeah, you know, I nobody's everdied from real food.
You know, come on, come on in.
Poison, you know, poisonwithstanding, but um it's you
know, you know, I don't I don'tthink that uh yeah, I don't I
don't think that creatures thatare out there eating real food
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or um you know being killed byit.
SPEAKER_01 (23:43):
Well, here's something that I think that that
we should look at as as well.
Uh in and I was looking at thisbecause I was talking to
somebody whose dog had aseizure.
Um and when you really look at,you know, if you look at what
causes, you know, seizures,well, structural problems,
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structural brain problems cancause seizures like you know,
brain tumors or congenitalmalformations, um traumatic
brain injuries, right?
But neurological deficits, okay,neurological deficits.
And when you look at some of thetoxic causes, toxic causes are
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low blood sugar, um, which youknow is common in puppies or
diabetic pets, um, low calcium,low magnesium, high sodium.
Uh where do we hear about foodslike that, Brian?
Low calcium, low magnesium, highsodium, and dogs that are
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diabetic become diabetic.
We hear about that a lot frompivot-fed dogs, right?
SPEAKER_03 (25:04):
Also, you you just describe processed food to a
tea.
SPEAKER_01 (25:07):
Yeah, it's processed food.
And then, and then the otherthing that happens is they they
start having liver problems,kidney problems, you know, um,
and then certain pesticides,medications, heavy metals like
lead and zinc, you know, but umthese are a lot of the causes
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when we see seizures.
And so I'm like, why would youever put your pet in a situation
where they could start havingseizures because you're feeding
them inappropriate food, becauseyou're you're causing their uh
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too much sugar in their blood,uh, or they're not given the
right um uh food, so their bloodstabilizes.
That is one thing that I I thinkthat we see a lot is this
behavior change that they'rebecause their blood is their
blood sugar levels are verystabilized on a raw diet.
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Very stabilized, right?
You're not shooting them to themoon and back every day with the
high carb foods.
Um, certainly a raw diet is notlow in calcium, uh, it's not
high in sodium, and it's not lowin magnesium.
Um, so again, what if you wantedto break down all these
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different diseases out there inpeople and in pets, processed
foods is your number one enemy.
It is.
Now, a lot of people, Brian, aretrying to go over to the cook
side, right?
Why?
Why do you want to cook thefood?
Why, why, why?
Because you want an extra step,because you're worried that a
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bacteria.
I mean, I I think that my entirestaff and all of the staff at
all the raw pet food companiesshould be dead by now.
SPEAKER_03 (27:03):
I mean, well, I mean, all the all the people
that brought raw chicken intotheir home and and you know
prepared that for theirfamilies.
I mean, how many people isgetting sick from that?
You know, I mean, they don'tthink about they they don't
think twice about you knowbringing home you know chicken
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breasts and you know cuttingthose up and making you know
fajitas and you know whateverelse they want to make.
Um they they don't think twiceabout the bacteria, you know,
and that meat is you know thethe FDA has a much higher
tolerance for for bacteria inthat meat than they do for
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anything destined for pet food.
It's the zero tolerance, right?
You know, it's you know, um soum but you know the the bacteria
thing is funny because that'sthat's another thing that the uh
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the and this is more thepharmaceutical industry than the
pet food industry, but umthey're trying to capitalize on
you know your your dog isdomesticated, he's not a wolf,
and he doesn't have the thebuilt-in protections that a wolf
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has against you know pathogensin raw meat.
I mean, you know, that that'syou know that's the latest
narrative.
And I'm just like, so so you'retelling me that domestication
takes away our pet's immunesystem?
SPEAKER_01 (28:49):
It does if you're putting all the crap in them.
But yeah, other things.
SPEAKER_03 (28:54):
Well, that's not domestication.
That's uh, you know, that's Idon't know what you call that.
That's the pharmaceuticalindustry and all the stuff
they're selling, but you know,you know, uh again, you know,
domestication doesn't change theessence of you know who these
animals are, you know, and andit doesn't it doesn't change the
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it doesn't take the animal outof the animal, you know.
It uh you know domestication,you know, made them smaller, it
toned down the aggressiveness,you know, it uh it you know it
fostered a cooperativerelationship between species.
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That's what domestication did.
Um you know, it didn't rob yourdog of their immune system and
you know make them you knowcompletely incapable of
protecting themselves withoutmonthly injections and um you
know topical.
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Preventatives and all that kindof stuff.
But that's what they're tellingpet parents.
You know, that that's where thewhole your dog is not a wolf.
You know, seven years ago yourdog was a wolf, but you know, so
you know, cause becausedomestication, you know, because
you know, and all that happenedin seven years.
SPEAKER_01 (30:20):
Um I I think I think people should turn down the
commercials because they justreally influence you um in
certain ways.
Or just try the raw diet, right?
Go try the raw diet.
I would challenge anybody thatis currently feeding cooked, um,
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anything but raw.
And raw means you don't cook it,you you you thaw it out and you
feed it, okay?
And it's meat, bones, organ, andfat.
And we have a ton of differentum choices, a ton of different
flavors for your dog.
We have pork, lamb, turkey.
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We I'm not sure if we still havevenison available right now or
not.
Uh, we have it sells out a lot.
We have um chicken, we havesardines, we have duckheads, we
have all these different typesof things that you can feed your
dog.
And is it complete and balance?
Hell yes.
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Complete in balance means meat,bones, organ, and fat.
Yes, you can add some otherthings in there, but that's its
primary food.
Okay.
Stripe.
Rice and testicles if you want,uh, pork brains if you want, uh,
duck heads if you want, uh,bones, certainly.
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So you know, some people theythey have a real problem with
with bones.
Um they think that when theycrunch these bones and it goes
into uh their esophagus, thatthe it starts it it it just rip
them, just rip them from youknow, mouth to tail.
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And I just have never seen that,Brian.
I I've never seen it.
And there's a lot of dogs outthere eating roasted bones.
I wouldn't do that, I wouldnever do that, only raw.
But there's a lot of companiesthat sell that crap.
I can't imagine that they canget away with that.
SPEAKER_03 (32:33):
So here's a here's a little tidbit that I don't I
don't I bet you a lot of petparents don't realize this.
Um, a dog's esophagus expandsabout one and a half times its
normal width during ED, um,which means that it gets wider.
Um and you know, here we go withyou know that darn nature and
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her being so smart.
But you know, she designed ananimal with jaws that only go up
and down, they don't go side toside, so they can't chew their
food, they've got to gulp largechunks of raw meat and bones.
So, what did she do?
She made their esophagus expandbecause they're gonna gulp their
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food.
Um, so um, you know, so when youyou know when you see your dog
eaten in 2.8 seconds and youknow taking these large pieces
of food and just swallowingthem, uh, don't freak out.
That's how they're supposed toeat.
You know, that's that'sinstinctually how they how they
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eat.
Um and you know, like I said,that esophagus is expanding so
it's uh it's able to accommodatethose large pieces.
And then on top of that, umbecause the esophagus needs to
move the food, you know, downthe throat into the into the
(34:05):
stomach, it's it's lined with avery thick muscle that's moving
those things along.
Um you're not, you know, alittle piece of bone, little
corner, you know, corner of abone that you might see in the
in the blend or something whenyou're looking at is not going
(34:26):
to do any damage to that muscle.
Well, it's just it's just not.
Um, and it's gonna be probablywrapped in food anyways.
SPEAKER_00 (34:36):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (34:36):
Um you know, so it's just gonna it's just gonna slide
right down there.
But um, you know, I I've saidbefore that you know, if if if
this is the food that naturesaid you need to eat, she's
gonna make you adaptable to dothat.
SPEAKER_01 (34:56):
Um you starve to death.
You know, it's uh yeah.
I or you or yeah, get very sickand you starve to death.
Well, listen, guys, um, we hereat Raw Dog Food and Company are
all about the best nutrition foryour pets.
And Brian is there in the chat.
(35:17):
Now, listen, he does not work24-7.
I try to I try to convince himthat he doesn't need any sleep
and that he can just stay up24-7 and immediately answer your
questions.
SPEAKER_03 (35:34):
That's that half robot, half human.
So as soon as I become halfrobot, I can stay up 24 hours.
SPEAKER_01 (35:41):
But he but but he will get back with you.
And there's so many ways toreach us.
Uh, you can call us and listen,you don't have to keep calling.
You can just leave a messagebecause it prints it out for us,
and we see that message as soonas you call.
Okay.
And we'll we'll text you backand let you know, hey, we we see
(36:02):
you, and we're gonna be rightwith you.
You can go in the chat, you cansign up for a nutritional
consult with Brian.
Um, he's gonna help guide youalong this journey.
It doesn't take that long, guys.
It really doesn't.
As soon as you understand, yourdog's poops are gonna be
smaller, they're gonna beharder, and they need to be
(36:23):
harder.
Why?
So they can express those analglands.
As Brian says, they gotta strainjust a little bit.
Mama now push it out, push itout, right?
These sloppy kibble poops areno, no, not not good.
They're not good at all.
Um, and he's gonna guide youthrough that on the fact that
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your dog's not gonna eat uh umis not gonna drink as much water
uh unless you're feeding fish.
And so uh Rick has been givenLousie um, he calls it her
appetizer in the morning, likeshe gets a sardine.
And she does drink a lot morewater when she's uh eating fish
(37:08):
because it's salty, right?
And so she she does when she'snot eating fish, she hardly
drinks water at all.
Um, but when she eats fish, shegets one fish before her meal as
he's you know, we still warm upour dog's food.
Do you warm up your dog's food?
SPEAKER_03 (37:30):
I do.
Um I I put a little bit of warmwater in there and kind of stir
it around just to just to tryand take the the chill off.
SPEAKER_01 (37:41):
Yeah, uh Rick and I do a little bit different.
I do it like you.
Um, or I will add the water inthe bowl, then put the bowl on
the stove and just let it warmup, but don't let it brown.
You know, you can get distractedand it will brown it and fine,
whatever.
But um, and then smash it.
I always make sure the bowl isis is cool before I take it off.
(38:03):
Rick doesn't add any water, hejust stirs it and makes sure
that it's warm.
Um, and it really is funnybecause she eats her food so
much faster when it's warm.
I I've I've there have been dayswhen I'm like, okay, check, I
don't have time to warm yourfood up.
So here it is.
(38:24):
And she literally will kind oflike take a bite and look at me.
And she's like, okay, whatever.
But she, I mean, she really doesthat.
Uh, and and probably I'm makingthat up in my mind, but um, I
do, I do think that I see she uhenjoys it a lot more if it's
slightly warm, right?
SPEAKER_03 (38:44):
Well, it's more natural for him too.
I mean, if you know, I mean, ifthey were to if they were to to
to get a rabbit or a squirrelout in the front yard, um you
know, that thing's gonna be bodytemperature warm.
You know, it's not gonna becold.
So I do think that there's adegree of um, you know, that's
(39:07):
just that's kind of naturallywhat they're expecting is is for
it to be, you know, a littlewarm.
Um so, but you know, you have todo what works best for your dog.
I know some people that you knowtheir dogs do fine with cold
food.
SPEAKER_01 (39:22):
I've heard some people tell me my dog likes it
frozen, and I'm like, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (39:28):
I think it's harder on the digest.
I think, you know, I think overtime, um, you know, I think that
that gets really hard for thefor the body to deal with.
Um, you know, I think once in awhile, you know, you you're
you're short on time and youdon't have time to heat it up or
something, that's that's no bigdeal.
But um, I wouldn't want to givethem cold food um, you know,
(39:53):
every day.
Maybe in the summertime, youknow, might help keep them cool
a little bit.
Um, I don't know.
Yeah, go ahead.
Oh, I was gonna say I wanted toto share one other thing.
Um, and and I don't know ifthere's pet parents out there
that need to hear this or not.
Um, but uh you know, our dogsaren't made of glass.
(40:15):
Um they're they're prettyresilient, and um, and I think
they they understand we're humanand we're gonna make mistakes
and um and they're gonna be justfine.
And uh and so I hope that peopleyou know can can hear that and
not stress out whenever you knowthey do something wrong.
(40:36):
And um I thought about thisbecause the other day, um, you
know, I have four dogs and I wasfeeding them, and Riley got
Athena's food, and you know,Athena got Riley's plate.
And after I realized that I haddone that, I they're not the
(40:56):
same, they're not the same.
SPEAKER_01 (40:58):
What's the difference in?
SPEAKER_03 (41:00):
Um, so um Athena eats more because she's bigger.
Okay.
Um, so she gets more food, andyou know, she's older, so she's
got some joint supplements andshe's got some C BD and stuff
like that.
So I mean, you know, the theworst thing that happened was
that Riley got extra caloriesand he got, you know, quite a
bit more CBD than he's used to.
(41:23):
Um so he was probably prettychill.
But um but I think that that'sone of those situations where a
lot of pet parents would freakout.
You know, oh my god, I fed thewrong thing, you know, I gave
the wrong food to you know to mydog.
Do I need to call the vet?
Do I need to call poisoncontrol?
And you know, obviously, ifwe're talking medications or
(41:45):
something like that, then maybeyou know, you do need to call
your vet if you accidentallygive a medication to a dog that
wasn't prescribed it.
But um, you know, but but youknow, absent anything like that,
um, you know what, you makemistakes like that, you just
move on.
You know, um, you know, maybeRiley gets a little bit less
(42:08):
food the next day.
You know, um, you know, and andmaybe Athena gets a snap, you
know, that day because she gotyou know shortchanged a couple
ounces.
Um but um but yeah, I I reallywant parents to, you know, know
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that like I said, your dogsaren't made of glass, you know.
Um and I think, you know, Ithink we all if you if you if
you've had kids, you learn thatpretty quick because you're kind
of the same way, um, you know,until you see your kid, you
know, flying off the swing set,you know, sucking and rolling
(42:51):
and you know, jumping on theirbike and heading down the
street.
So um, you know, then you'relike, yeah, they're pretty
resilient, they're gonna bounceback.
Um your dogs are the same way.
And uh, you know, so if you makemistakes, it's no big deal.
If you forget to buy food, youforget to thaw food, and you
gotta give them some, you know,ground beef and a you know, a
(43:14):
chicken wing from the grocerystore.
SPEAKER_01 (43:18):
Uh or a couple of raw eggs.
I've done that in the past.
SPEAKER_03 (43:21):
You know, it's it's okay.
Um, you know, you just you know,do what you gotta do that day,
get some food in the sink, thawit out, and get back to your
routine the next day.
SPEAKER_01 (43:34):
Yeah.
Um we I was watching uh ourson's dogs came over, and so I
had three, you know, 75-pounddogs, and really honestly, the
the these dogs have been eatingraw their entire life, they're
all like seven years old.
And I I so wish I would have hada video camera on because they
(43:59):
still, after seven years, actlike they're just gonna shake
out of their skin if I don't putthat food down right then and
there.
You know, they're like, give it,give it, give it, give it to me.
And it's just so amazing.
I I haven't fed Kibble, like Isaid, in 25 years, but I don't
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think I see dogs acting likethat.
There's there's this, they lovetheir food.
They love their food, and it isgone because there are three of
them.
They're all you know within eyeshot of of each other.
So there is no let me justleisurely eat my food.
(44:43):
It's no, I gotta eat mine, soI'm gonna run over, try to get
theirs before they're finished,or I gotta finish mine before
someone comes over and getsmine.
And they're perfectly fine,right?
We don't have to.
I I me personally, Brian, Idon't believe in those slow down
plates, especially for raw.
Now, for kibble, maybe, youknow, because they just don't
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digest their food, they'refarty, you know, their stomach,
you know, is gurgling, they gota high level of sugar and stuff
that makes them, you know, bloatout.
But um yeah, I with raw food,I'm just like, eat it as fast as
you want.
It's perfectly fine.
That's the way they're made.
(45:30):
That's the way they're made.
But listen, guys, you yeah.
You you can sorry, Brian, I'mstepping on you.
Um if you need help or you wantto try out um food from us, you
don't know where to startbecause there's so much.
Um, Brian can help you.
(45:51):
We we have a blend for everydog, every pet parent's
preference out there.
A lot of companies just haveturkey, chicken, and beef.
They're only gonna have likethree choices, right?
We have pork, we have lamb, wehave duck, we have rabbit and
duck, we have rabbit with furand tripe, we have a ton of
(46:12):
different things.
And don't let that scare you.
I would I would say let thatexcite you because your dog's
gonna be excited that they'regonna have such a variety.
Uh, but we'll help you out.
Just get over to rawdogfoodandcompany.com.
Up at the top, um, you can gointo uh the learning center.
(46:33):
You should be able to get tobook a consultation from there
with Brian.
There's a lot of ways to findhim.
Or if you just have a question,text it to him.
If you have a question that youwant answered on the podcast,
text it to us.
We will get your answers um fromDr.
Judy Jasick.
Uh, we can also pass those on toour daughter Amanda, who is a
(46:54):
vet.
And um we can get you someanswers.
We can get you some answers, andwe want you to have a fun,
enjoyable time with your dog.
And that's hard to do when theyhave seizures, when they have
massive allergies, when they'reunwell.
Um, it it robs you and your petof a lot of time and energy.
(47:18):
So get over to rawdogfoodandcompany.com, where
your pet's health is ourbusiness.
And what, Brian?
Friends don't let friends feedkibble.
That's right.
We'll see you soon, everybody.
Bye bye.
Oh, snaps!
SPEAKER_00 (47:33):
Find out how you can start your dog on the road to
health and longevity.
Go to rawdogfoodandcompany.comwhere friends don't let friends
feed kibble, and where yourpet's health is our business.
Oh, snap! Well, hello, raw feeders.
I'm Didi Merchant Moffat, CEO ofRaw Dog Food and Company.
We are Pets Health is ourbusiness.
And we're friends like my friendBrian Brandfuss.
Well, he doesn't let friendsfeed kibble, but my golly gosh,
almighty, do you have to talk toa lot of them about what they're
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feeding their pets?
And I'm I bet as our residentnutritionist, your mouth
probably just opens wide somedays.
And you're just like, do whatnow?
Right?
You think you've heard it all,and then you realize you haven't
heard it all.
SPEAKER_03 (00:41):
This uh the pet industry is definitely good for
uh keeping you on your toes andsurprising you.
SPEAKER_01 (00:50):
Well, you know, um there is just the the the all it
is when we really dig down deepand look at it, Brian, all it is
are stories that have been madeup in people's heads, and
they're the those stories arethere because somebody in
(01:13):
authority has helped put them intheir heads, okay?
Whether that is, you know, someinfluencer out there or the vet
industry or the pet foodindustry, it's redonculous.
It's just ridonculous that youknow, I did a podcast on how
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many years it takes, right, forevolution to actually occur in
its millions of years um tochange their teeth, to change
their guts, right?
It's millions of years, andright now these animals, dogs
and cats, are still carnivores.
So they're they're gonna remaincarnivores for at least a
million more years.
Okay.
Um I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (01:59):
I I discovered something today, I think that uh
I think it shows that evolutiononly takes about seven years,
according to according to thepet food industry.
SPEAKER_01 (02:11):
Okay, pray tell what kind of new propaganda sphincter
news are we talking about today?
SPEAKER_03 (02:19):
Well, um, you know, my favorite subject in the whole
world is you know carnivoreversus omnivore, and how you
know there's been this big pushto classify dogs as omnivores.
And you know that our positionhas always been that that's
(02:39):
marketing.
That it's you know, it's the thefood has gotten even more carb
heavy um as of late.
The the kibble companies arewanting to use even less meat.
Not that they were using youknow real meat to begin with,
but they want to use even lessof it.
(03:00):
Um they even want to do insectsif they can get away with it.
They want to make your yourpets' food out of insect
protein.
Um but uh but these carb-heavyyou know kibbles, dogs need to
be omnivores in order to justifyselling that product.
And the reason that I know thatit's marketing is because and I
(03:26):
found the I found the commercialon YouTube, so you can actually
go to YouTube and find thecommercial.
SPEAKER_01 (03:31):
But wait just a minute.
I can play it.
I think I can play it.
Tell me if you can hear this.
Um okay, let me just turn up mythingy here and let's see if you
can just hear this.
Now, yeah, this was this thiscommercial was seven years ago,
right, Brian?
Uh about, yeah.
Okay, let's see if if our if ourif our um if our audience can
(03:55):
hear this.
That was the end.
Let me let me start at thebeginning.
All right, here we go.
(04:41):
So they actually are trying tosay that their kibble, which uh
is so funny, I was watching thiscommercial, they they show the
pictures of of like what ourfood looks like real meat, you
know, real food, real stuff.
And when they're when they're uhshowing the dog eating the the
(05:03):
food, they never show what's inthe bowl.
Because I mean, you'd be like,wait a minute, those little
brown pellets don't look likeanything like real food.
But you're right.
So they did, they did just sevenyears ago say, hey, your dog is
the descendant of a wolf.
Now what are they saying, Brian?
SPEAKER_03 (05:22):
Yeah, I mean, when when they're selling, because if
you remember that product, theselling point was that they used
more animal protein um you knowin that product.
Um, and so when they want tosell meat, the dog is a
(05:43):
carnivore and the dog is adescendant of the wolf, and you
know, you need to tap into itsancestral needs and let it eat
like its ancestors did.
And now that there's no meat inkibble, or there's you know,
less meat and there's morecarbohydrates and there's
insects, that's when they turnto science and say, hey, we need
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these things to be omnivores.
So it's you know, that thatcommercial right there proves
that you know the the kibbleindustry, you know, your dog
needs to be whatever it is theyneed it to be to sell whatever
they're selling.
So there's there's this zeroscience behind your dog is an
(06:32):
omnivore.
It's 100% marketing, and thatcommercial proves it.
SPEAKER_01 (06:39):
So again, if we know, Brian, that you're a
human, you're not a um, youknow, a half uh robot, half
human, right?
We know that you're a human, sowe should feed you like a human
and uh not feed you like a halfrobot and half human, because I
(07:04):
I bet that would cause somedisrupt disruption of your
health, right?
But we cannot seem to convince alot of people or relay the
information that your dogcannot, will not be as healthy
as it could be and should be ifyou don't feed it correctly for
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its species.
That's exactly what speciesappropriate means, right?
So, what is complete and balancefor our um carnivores,
meatbones, organ, fat, right?
Throw if you want to throw insome veggies, be my guest,
right?
Go right ahead.
(07:46):
You're not gonna hurt them, butthink like a wolf.
What does a wolf eat?
What does a mountain lion eat?
Right?
And um, but invariably,invariably, I hear this.
Well, my dog has this issue.
Okay, well, what are you feedingthem?
(08:07):
Well, I'm kind I'm doing, youknow, half of a high-end kibble
and half raw, or I'm doing thebest kibble I can, and yeah, I'm
putting all these toxins intheir body.
Um, but that's not the problem.
I'm just like, it most certainlyis the problem.
SPEAKER_03 (08:30):
Yep.
It you know, if your car needsgas to run and you're putting
half water and half gas, youknow, which half of that
equation is causing your yourcar to quit when it's going down
the road?
You know, it's not the gas, youknow, it's the it's the fact
(08:50):
that you're mixing it withsomething that's completely
inappropriate for the job.
Um so, you know, and it's justyou know, it's it's crazy that
like it the the community andthe the pet food industry is
like, well, your dog needs to bean omnivore because you know he
(09:13):
can eat some carbs and he caneat some vegetables.
Yeah, and I can't crack thatthat's great, you know, but um
the the fact that they can eatother foods doesn't need that
doesn't mean that we have tochange the essence of who they
are.
You know, the wolves in the wildeat blueberries in the
(09:36):
summertime because that's allthat they can find.
You know, but they you know thatdoesn't make them vegetarians,
they're still carnivores.
And you know, if they're in themiddle of the blueberry field
chowing down on blueberries andan elk, you know, a wayward elk
runs through there, I mean, whatdo you think they're gonna do?
SPEAKER_01 (09:58):
Right?
Or if if you really if youreally feel like that evolution
has totally taken place and umthat that the wolves, right, the
wolves have evolved.
Well, just go ahead and leaveyour little dogs outside.
Just just leave them on outsidein the wilderness, you know, out
in your back, like for me,right?
(10:19):
So I'm up here with all theanimals in the mountains.
I got the fox, the the coyotes,the mountain lions, the bears, I
got them all.
You know, I'm not leaving my dogoutside at dark, even if she is
a German shepherd.
She's going to be no match for amountain lion.
(10:42):
You know?
But um we are in the pet healthbusiness, so we're always trying
to uh uh recommend and advise uhbased on the tens of thousands
of dogs that we've seen and whatwe understand to be um a system
(11:02):
of health.
Good food, good water, goodexercise, uh good uh common
sense, um and good pushback whenyou need to push back on things
that might not be good for yourdog.
And I said this the other dayjust because you have to do
(11:23):
something will not remove theissue, won't remove the the
effects, right?
So let's just you know, forexample, if you know, let's the
whole COVID thing, right?
I had to, I had to.
(11:43):
And um it doesn't matter if youhad to or not, the damage is
still going to be had stillgoing to be done, right?
So you have to think like that.
And you have to think what can Ido to keep my dog as healthy as
possible.
Um, and and and what are myoptions?
(12:08):
You have lots of options today.
I don't know where we're goingin this country.
I don't know if we're going intocommunism, I don't know where
we're going, but today, youknow, um it and and the
veterinary um profession make itvery tough.
They make it tough on petparents for sure.
Brian, what would you I do?
(12:30):
What uh what would you say tonew feeders, right?
To new feeders when they'recoming over to from a kibble
diet, right?
What are some of the things thatfrighten people that maybe they
they misunderstand, they uh seesomething and they read it the
(12:51):
wrong way.
What do you see most often inthe folks that you help out
there?
SPEAKER_03 (12:59):
Uh I would say probably the biggest concern is
whether or not they're gettingeverything that they need.
Um, that's that's usually theone that we have to um we have
to spend some time discussing.
Um, you know, and and that's youknow, that's undoing all of
(13:22):
that, you know, marketing fromthe pet food industry and you
know, to some degree the vets,you know, but I mean the vets
are getting it from the pet foodindustry.
So um, but uh you know,complete, you know, people used
to see you know, complete andbalanced is you know such a
(13:44):
widely used marketing term, um,that uh you know, if people
don't see that on the food orthey don't see that on the
advertising or anything likethat, then you know they're
suspicious.
Um but I always ask them, youknow, what does complete and
(14:05):
balance mean to you for yourdiet?
You know, what when was the lasttime you ate a you know, do you
do you even know what a completeand balanced meal looks like for
a human?
SPEAKER_01 (14:18):
We don't ever even think that way.
We never think that way.
You know, you know, here's whathumans think.
I need to stay away fromprocessed foods, and that's
smart.
Or they'll say, I need to cutback on my sugar intake, or I
need to cut back on my alcoholintake.
There is I have never heard ahuman being say, I'm so worried
(14:43):
about if I'm complete andbalance, but if my diet is
complete and balanced, theynever say that.
But we're obsessed with it inthe dog world because why?
Because somebody said it.
Sort of like somebody said that,you know, boutique foods that
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didn't have grains in it, uh,you know, were causing
cardiomyopathy.
Okay, and and and yeah, somebodysaid that pigs fly out your
sphincter too, and uh yet to seeit.
Um, but we believe it, you know,we'll believe stuff.
We just believe stuff.
(15:30):
There is there there is I don'tknow what the code is, Brian.
There's a code, but we gottacrack the code in in how to help
pet parents help their pets.
SPEAKER_03 (15:48):
Well I mean I think that uh I I think that the vast
majority, you know, we see wesee some pretty quick changes.
When, you know, if if you'reable to, you know, as a pet
parent, if you're you know, ifyou're serious and you just cut
(16:12):
the cord and and you just switchto raw and you get all that
other stuff out of the out ofthe diet, and you feed species
appropriate raw diet, meat,bones, organs, and fat, mix it
up in, you know, a coupledifferent proteins each week or
whatever.
Um, you see the changes prettyquick.
(16:34):
You know, the the dog is thedogs are excited to eat.
Um, you know, the excess weight,you know, falls off.
Um, you know, the coat shinesup, the the teeth start looking
good, the eyes clear up.
Um, you know, the the energycomes back.
(16:55):
Um, I think that, you know,those kind of you know, those
kind of changes are aresomething that you know they're
not seeing those kind of changeswith whatever the vets are
suggesting they do.
SPEAKER_02 (17:12):
No.
SPEAKER_03 (17:13):
You know, they they they go into the vet's office
with a problem and they come outwith their little baggie of
pills, and two weeks laterthey're back in the office um
you know to get some more pillsbecause nothing changed in two
weeks.
Um, so so I think that we justgotta, you know, we just gotta
(17:36):
get people to make the changeand then let the results speak
for themselves.
Um you know, and I mean I had todo the the same thing, you know,
when when I switched, I mean,you know, I went down all the
rabbit holes and you know, I gotcaught up in all those Facebook
groups and stuff like that, andI had all sorts of information,
(17:59):
you know, coming my way.
And, you know, I had the samequestions, you know, is this
balanced?
Is this you know everything theyneed?
And eventually I had to justlook back and or just sit back
and look at my dogs and be like,you know, I don't think I've
ever seen my dogs look thatgood, you know.
(18:22):
Um, and and that's where I'm atnow.
I mean, you know, people still,you know, they they're like,
well, meat bones, organ, and fatis not enough.
And you know, you better begiving them some, you know, what
what kind of zinc are theygetting?
And you know, are they gettingenough of this and enough of
that?
And I'm like, I don't think Icould go, I haven't worried
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about zinc for seven years.
And I'm pretty sure that if theyhad a zinc problem, I would see
something by now.
SPEAKER_01 (18:58):
Okay.
You want to know where highzinc, high zinc comes.
Red meat, beef, lamb, venison,high zinc, organ meats are
slightly higher than musclemeat.
Okay, liver, kidney, heart,excellent source of zinc,
copper, iron, and B vitamins.
Um, you've also got somemoderate zinc levels in dark
(19:18):
meat and the white meat ofpoultry.
You've got it in eggs, you'vegot it in high zinc in salmon
and sardines.
Um, and you've also got thetraces of zinc um in edible
bones.
And there's also some in tripe.
So right there, Brian, tripe,bone, sardines, oysters, salmon,
(19:44):
chicken, turkey, organs, beef.
I mean, come on.
You're gonna get a ton of zincin there.
But yet the Facebook groups willget on a mineral or a trace
mineral, and they will reallycause pet parents, I think, to
(20:09):
imbalance, if you want to saythat, cause some issues with
their with their pets, right?
Because if you over-supplementwith zinc, it can interfere with
copper absorption, right?
So let's just be cognizant thatwhen you feed real food uh and
(20:30):
it's got the meat, bones, organ,and fat, you're not gonna OD.
You're not gonna OD.
SPEAKER_03 (20:38):
The body knows how to regulate real vitamins and
minerals.
And so it, you know, if you aregiven it too much, which is you
know highly unlikely, um, it canmanage that.
You know, what it can't manageis the synthetic versions, um,
(21:02):
you know, along with uh thenatural versions that it's
getting, you know, because thesepeople are you know, they're
feeding, you know, meat and allthis stuff, and then they're um,
you know, they're putting in allthese other things to up the the
amount that their dog is gettingto meet you know FEDIAF and NRC
(21:27):
standards.
Um so, but you know, the funnything is is that you know those
daily standards, like like yourdog needs this much every day,
um you know, that's assumingthat your dog's body is using
(21:48):
every single one of itsvitamins, minerals, using them
up completely each day, and ithas to be replenished, you know,
the the next day.
That would be like that would belike your car.
You have to fill it up with gasin the in the morning for for
(22:10):
your day's activities.
And if you have any gas leftover at the end of the day, when
you wake up in the morning, it'sgonna be gone because you need
to fill it up, you know, again.
It's like the the body doesn'twork that way.
Um you know, and everybody isgonna be different.
Some dogs are gonna use morezinc, some dogs are gonna use
(22:33):
less.
Um, you know, but they're buttheir body is gonna manage that.
And and it knows if it's if it'sgetting, you know, you know,
let's say you're eating a lot ofvenison that is, you know, uh,
you know, a higher source ofzinc than some of the other
(22:55):
meats, um, you know, the thebody's gonna get rid of it or
it's gonna it's gonna store itaway for those times when it's
not getting the venison and nowit needs a little bit of extra
zinc.
You know, but let's give thebody some credit.
I think it you know, I thinkit's a little bit smarter than
(23:16):
than we think.
Yeah, you know, I nobody's everdied from real food.
You know, come on, come on in.
Poison, you know, poisonwithstanding, but um it's you
know, you know, I don't I don'tthink that uh yeah, I don't I
don't think that creatures thatare out there eating real food
(23:38):
or um you know being killed byit.
SPEAKER_01 (23:43):
Well, here's something that I think that that
we should look at as as well.
Uh in and I was looking at thisbecause I was talking to
somebody whose dog had aseizure.
Um and when you really look at,you know, if you look at what
causes, you know, seizures,well, structural problems,
(24:08):
structural brain problems cancause seizures like you know,
brain tumors or congenitalmalformations, um traumatic
brain injuries, right?
But neurological deficits, okay,neurological deficits.
And when you look at some of thetoxic causes, toxic causes are
(24:32):
low blood sugar, um, which youknow is common in puppies or
diabetic pets, um, low calcium,low magnesium, high sodium.
Uh where do we hear about foodslike that, Brian?
Low calcium, low magnesium, highsodium, and dogs that are
(24:55):
diabetic become diabetic.
We hear about that a lot frompivot-fed dogs, right?
SPEAKER_03 (25:04):
Also, you you just describe processed food to a
tea.
SPEAKER_01 (25:07):
Yeah, it's processed food.
And then, and then the otherthing that happens is they they
start having liver problems,kidney problems, you know, um,
and then certain pesticides,medications, heavy metals like
lead and zinc, you know, but umthese are a lot of the causes
(25:28):
when we see seizures.
And so I'm like, why would youever put your pet in a situation
where they could start havingseizures because you're feeding
them inappropriate food, becauseyou're you're causing their uh
(25:50):
too much sugar in their blood,uh, or they're not given the
right um uh food, so their bloodstabilizes.
That is one thing that I I thinkthat we see a lot is this
behavior change that they'rebecause their blood is their
blood sugar levels are verystabilized on a raw diet.
(26:10):
Very stabilized, right?
You're not shooting them to themoon and back every day with the
high carb foods.
Um, certainly a raw diet is notlow in calcium, uh, it's not
high in sodium, and it's not lowin magnesium.
Um, so again, what if you wantedto break down all these
(26:31):
different diseases out there inpeople and in pets, processed
foods is your number one enemy.
It is.
Now, a lot of people, Brian, aretrying to go over to the cook
side, right?
Why?
Why do you want to cook thefood?
Why, why, why?
Because you want an extra step,because you're worried that a
(26:52):
bacteria.
I mean, I I think that my entirestaff and all of the staff at
all the raw pet food companiesshould be dead by now.
SPEAKER_03 (27:03):
I mean, well, I mean, all the all the people
that brought raw chicken intotheir home and and you know
prepared that for theirfamilies.
I mean, how many people isgetting sick from that?
You know, I mean, they don'tthink about they they don't
think twice about you knowbringing home you know chicken
(27:25):
breasts and you know cuttingthose up and making you know
fajitas and you know whateverelse they want to make.
Um they they don't think twiceabout the bacteria, you know,
and that meat is you know thethe FDA has a much higher
tolerance for for bacteria inthat meat than they do for
(27:47):
anything destined for pet food.
It's the zero tolerance, right?
You know, it's you know, um soum but you know the the bacteria
thing is funny because that'sthat's another thing that the uh
(28:08):
the and this is more thepharmaceutical industry than the
pet food industry, but umthey're trying to capitalize on
you know your your dog isdomesticated, he's not a wolf,
and he doesn't have the thebuilt-in protections that a wolf
(28:31):
has against you know pathogensin raw meat.
I mean, you know, that that'syou know that's the latest
narrative.
And I'm just like, so so you'retelling me that domestication
takes away our pet's immunesystem?
SPEAKER_01 (28:49):
It does if you're putting all the crap in them.
But yeah, other things.
SPEAKER_03 (28:54):
Well, that's not domestication.
That's uh, you know, that's Idon't know what you call that.
That's the pharmaceuticalindustry and all the stuff
they're selling, but you know,you know, uh again, you know,
domestication doesn't change theessence of you know who these
animals are, you know, and andit doesn't it doesn't change the
(29:19):
it doesn't take the animal outof the animal, you know.
It uh you know domestication,you know, made them smaller, it
toned down the aggressiveness,you know, it uh it you know it
fostered a cooperativerelationship between species.
(29:40):
That's what domestication did.
Um you know, it didn't rob yourdog of their immune system and
you know make them you knowcompletely incapable of
protecting themselves withoutmonthly injections and um you
know topical.
(30:00):
Preventatives and all that kindof stuff.
But that's what they're tellingpet parents.
You know, that that's where thewhole your dog is not a wolf.
You know, seven years ago yourdog was a wolf, but you know, so
you know, cause becausedomestication, you know, because
you know, and all that happenedin seven years.
SPEAKER_01 (30:20):
Um I I think I think people should turn down the
commercials because they justreally influence you um in
certain ways.
Or just try the raw diet, right?
Go try the raw diet.
I would challenge anybody thatis currently feeding cooked, um,
(30:44):
anything but raw.
And raw means you don't cook it,you you you thaw it out and you
feed it, okay?
And it's meat, bones, organ, andfat.
And we have a ton of differentum choices, a ton of different
flavors for your dog.
We have pork, lamb, turkey.
(31:07):
We I'm not sure if we still havevenison available right now or
not.
Uh, we have it sells out a lot.
We have um chicken, we havesardines, we have duckheads, we
have all these different typesof things that you can feed your
dog.
And is it complete and balance?
Hell yes.
(31:28):
Complete in balance means meat,bones, organ, and fat.
Yes, you can add some otherthings in there, but that's its
primary food.
Okay.
Stripe.
Rice and testicles if you want,uh, pork brains if you want, uh,
duck heads if you want, uh,bones, certainly.
(31:50):
So you know, some people theythey have a real problem with
with bones.
Um they think that when theycrunch these bones and it goes
into uh their esophagus, thatthe it starts it it it just rip
them, just rip them from youknow, mouth to tail.
(32:12):
And I just have never seen that,Brian.
I I've never seen it.
And there's a lot of dogs outthere eating roasted bones.
I wouldn't do that, I wouldnever do that, only raw.
But there's a lot of companiesthat sell that crap.
I can't imagine that they canget away with that.
SPEAKER_03 (32:33):
So here's a here's a little tidbit that I don't I
don't I bet you a lot of petparents don't realize this.
Um, a dog's esophagus expandsabout one and a half times its
normal width during ED, um,which means that it gets wider.
Um and you know, here we go withyou know that darn nature and
(32:59):
her being so smart.
But you know, she designed ananimal with jaws that only go up
and down, they don't go side toside, so they can't chew their
food, they've got to gulp largechunks of raw meat and bones.
So, what did she do?
She made their esophagus expandbecause they're gonna gulp their
(33:21):
food.
Um, so um, you know, so when youyou know when you see your dog
eaten in 2.8 seconds and youknow taking these large pieces
of food and just swallowingthem, uh, don't freak out.
That's how they're supposed toeat.
You know, that's that'sinstinctually how they how they
(33:45):
eat.
Um and you know, like I said,that esophagus is expanding so
it's uh it's able to accommodatethose large pieces.
And then on top of that, umbecause the esophagus needs to
move the food, you know, downthe throat into the into the
(34:05):
stomach, it's it's lined with avery thick muscle that's moving
those things along.
Um you're not, you know, alittle piece of bone, little
corner, you know, corner of abone that you might see in the
in the blend or something whenyou're looking at is not going
(34:26):
to do any damage to that muscle.
Well, it's just it's just not.
Um, and it's gonna be probablywrapped in food anyways.
SPEAKER_00 (34:36):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (34:36):
Um you know, so it's just gonna it's just gonna slide
right down there.
But um, you know, I I've saidbefore that you know, if if if
this is the food that naturesaid you need to eat, she's
gonna make you adaptable to dothat.
SPEAKER_01 (34:56):
Um you starve to death.
You know, it's uh yeah.
I or you or yeah, get very sickand you starve to death.
Well, listen, guys, um, we hereat Raw Dog Food and Company are
all about the best nutrition foryour pets.
And Brian is there in the chat.
(35:17):
Now, listen, he does not work24-7.
I try to I try to convince himthat he doesn't need any sleep
and that he can just stay up24-7 and immediately answer your
questions.
SPEAKER_03 (35:34):
That's that half robot, half human.
So as soon as I become halfrobot, I can stay up 24 hours.
SPEAKER_01 (35:41):
But he but but he will get back with you.
And there's so many ways toreach us.
Uh, you can call us and listen,you don't have to keep calling.
You can just leave a messagebecause it prints it out for us,
and we see that message as soonas you call.
Okay.
And we'll we'll text you backand let you know, hey, we we see
(36:02):
you, and we're gonna be rightwith you.
You can go in the chat, you cansign up for a nutritional
consult with Brian.
Um, he's gonna help guide youalong this journey.
It doesn't take that long, guys.
It really doesn't.
As soon as you understand, yourdog's poops are gonna be
smaller, they're gonna beharder, and they need to be
(36:23):
harder.
Why?
So they can express those analglands.
As Brian says, they gotta strainjust a little bit.
Mama now push it out, push itout, right?
These sloppy kibble poops areno, no, not not good.
They're not good at all.
Um, and he's gonna guide youthrough that on the fact that
(36:45):
your dog's not gonna eat uh umis not gonna drink as much water
uh unless you're feeding fish.
And so uh Rick has been givenLousie um, he calls it her
appetizer in the morning, likeshe gets a sardine.
And she does drink a lot morewater when she's uh eating fish
(37:08):
because it's salty, right?
And so she she does when she'snot eating fish, she hardly
drinks water at all.
Um, but when she eats fish, shegets one fish before her meal as
he's you know, we still warm upour dog's food.
Do you warm up your dog's food?
SPEAKER_03 (37:30):
I do.
Um I I put a little bit of warmwater in there and kind of stir
it around just to just to tryand take the the chill off.
SPEAKER_01 (37:41):
Yeah, uh Rick and I do a little bit different.
I do it like you.
Um, or I will add the water inthe bowl, then put the bowl on
the stove and just let it warmup, but don't let it brown.
You know, you can get distractedand it will brown it and fine,
whatever.
But um, and then smash it.
I always make sure the bowl isis is cool before I take it off.
(38:03):
Rick doesn't add any water, hejust stirs it and makes sure
that it's warm.
Um, and it really is funnybecause she eats her food so
much faster when it's warm.
I I've I've there have been dayswhen I'm like, okay, check, I
don't have time to warm yourfood up.
So here it is.
(38:24):
And she literally will kind oflike take a bite and look at me.
And she's like, okay, whatever.
But she, I mean, she really doesthat.
Uh, and and probably I'm makingthat up in my mind, but um, I
do, I do think that I see she uhenjoys it a lot more if it's
slightly warm, right?
SPEAKER_03 (38:44):
Well, it's more natural for him too.
I mean, if you know, I mean, ifthey were to if they were to to
to get a rabbit or a squirrelout in the front yard, um you
know, that thing's gonna be bodytemperature warm.
You know, it's not gonna becold.
So I do think that there's adegree of um, you know, that's
(39:07):
just that's kind of naturallywhat they're expecting is is for
it to be, you know, a littlewarm.
Um so, but you know, you have todo what works best for your dog.
I know some people that you knowtheir dogs do fine with cold
food.
SPEAKER_01 (39:22):
I've heard some people tell me my dog likes it
frozen, and I'm like, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (39:28):
I think it's harder on the digest.
I think, you know, I think overtime, um, you know, I think that
that gets really hard for thefor the body to deal with.
Um, you know, I think once in awhile, you know, you you're
you're short on time and youdon't have time to heat it up or
something, that's that's no bigdeal.
But um, I wouldn't want to givethem cold food um, you know,
(39:53):
every day.
Maybe in the summertime, youknow, might help keep them cool
a little bit.
Um, I don't know.
Yeah, go ahead.
Oh, I was gonna say I wanted toto share one other thing.
Um, and and I don't know ifthere's pet parents out there
that need to hear this or not.
Um, but uh you know, our dogsaren't made of glass.
(40:15):
Um they're they're prettyresilient, and um, and I think
they they understand we're humanand we're gonna make mistakes
and um and they're gonna be justfine.
And uh and so I hope that peopleyou know can can hear that and
not stress out whenever you knowthey do something wrong.
(40:36):
And um I thought about thisbecause the other day, um, you
know, I have four dogs and I wasfeeding them, and Riley got
Athena's food, and you know,Athena got Riley's plate.
And after I realized that I haddone that, I they're not the
(40:56):
same, they're not the same.
SPEAKER_01 (40:58):
What's the difference in?
SPEAKER_03 (41:00):
Um, so um Athena eats more because she's bigger.
Okay.
Um, so she gets more food, andyou know, she's older, so she's
got some joint supplements andshe's got some C BD and stuff
like that.
So I mean, you know, the theworst thing that happened was
that Riley got extra caloriesand he got, you know, quite a
bit more CBD than he's used to.
(41:23):
Um so he was probably prettychill.
But um but I think that that'sone of those situations where a
lot of pet parents would freakout.
You know, oh my god, I fed thewrong thing, you know, I gave
the wrong food to you know to mydog.
Do I need to call the vet?
Do I need to call poisoncontrol?
And you know, obviously, ifwe're talking medications or
(41:45):
something like that, then maybeyou know, you do need to call
your vet if you accidentallygive a medication to a dog that
wasn't prescribed it.
But um, you know, but but youknow, absent anything like that,
um, you know what, you makemistakes like that, you just
move on.
You know, um, you know, maybeRiley gets a little bit less
(42:08):
food the next day.
You know, um, you know, and andmaybe Athena gets a snap, you
know, that day because she gotyou know shortchanged a couple
ounces.
Um but um but yeah, I I reallywant parents to, you know, know
(42:29):
that like I said, your dogsaren't made of glass, you know.
Um and I think, you know, Ithink we all if you if you if
you've had kids, you learn thatpretty quick because you're kind
of the same way, um, you know,until you see your kid, you
know, flying off the swing set,you know, sucking and rolling
(42:51):
and you know, jumping on theirbike and heading down the
street.
So um, you know, then you'relike, yeah, they're pretty
resilient, they're gonna bounceback.
Um your dogs are the same way.
And uh, you know, so if you makemistakes, it's no big deal.
If you forget to buy food, youforget to thaw food, and you
gotta give them some, you know,ground beef and a you know, a
(43:14):
chicken wing from the grocerystore.
SPEAKER_01 (43:18):
Uh or a couple of raw eggs.
I've done that in the past.
SPEAKER_03 (43:21):
You know, it's it's okay.
Um, you know, you just you know,do what you gotta do that day,
get some food in the sink, thawit out, and get back to your
routine the next day.
SPEAKER_01 (43:34):
Yeah.
Um we I was watching uh ourson's dogs came over, and so I
had three, you know, 75-pounddogs, and really honestly, the
the these dogs have been eatingraw their entire life, they're
all like seven years old.
And I I so wish I would have hada video camera on because they
(43:59):
still, after seven years, actlike they're just gonna shake
out of their skin if I don't putthat food down right then and
there.
You know, they're like, give it,give it, give it, give it to me.
And it's just so amazing.
I I haven't fed Kibble, like Isaid, in 25 years, but I don't
(44:22):
think I see dogs acting likethat.
There's there's this, they lovetheir food.
They love their food, and it isgone because there are three of
them.
They're all you know within eyeshot of of each other.
So there is no let me justleisurely eat my food.
(44:43):
It's no, I gotta eat mine, soI'm gonna run over, try to get
theirs before they're finished,or I gotta finish mine before
someone comes over and getsmine.
And they're perfectly fine,right?
We don't have to.
I I me personally, Brian, Idon't believe in those slow down
plates, especially for raw.
Now, for kibble, maybe, youknow, because they just don't
(45:07):
digest their food, they'refarty, you know, their stomach,
you know, is gurgling, they gota high level of sugar and stuff
that makes them, you know, bloatout.
But um yeah, I with raw food,I'm just like, eat it as fast as
you want.
It's perfectly fine.
That's the way they're made.
(45:30):
That's the way they're made.
But listen, guys, you yeah.
You you can sorry, Brian, I'mstepping on you.
Um if you need help or you wantto try out um food from us, you
don't know where to startbecause there's so much.
Um, Brian can help you.
(45:51):
We we have a blend for everydog, every pet parent's
preference out there.
A lot of companies just haveturkey, chicken, and beef.
They're only gonna have likethree choices, right?
We have pork, we have lamb, wehave duck, we have rabbit and
duck, we have rabbit with furand tripe, we have a ton of
(46:12):
different things.
And don't let that scare you.
I would I would say let thatexcite you because your dog's
gonna be excited that they'regonna have such a variety.
Uh, but we'll help you out.
Just get over to rawdogfoodandcompany.com.
Up at the top, um, you can gointo uh the learning center.
(46:33):
You should be able to get tobook a consultation from there
with Brian.
There's a lot of ways to findhim.
Or if you just have a question,text it to him.
If you have a question that youwant answered on the podcast,
text it to us.
We will get your answers um fromDr.
Judy Jasick.
Uh, we can also pass those on toour daughter Amanda, who is a
(46:54):
vet.
And um we can get you someanswers.
We can get you some answers, andwe want you to have a fun,
enjoyable time with your dog.
And that's hard to do when theyhave seizures, when they have
massive allergies, when they'reunwell.
Um, it it robs you and your petof a lot of time and energy.
(47:18):
So get over to rawdogfoodandcompany.com, where
your pet's health is ourbusiness.
And what, Brian?
Friends don't let friends feedkibble.
That's right.
We'll see you soon, everybody.
Bye bye.
Oh, snaps!
SPEAKER_00 (47:33):
Find out how you can start your dog on the road to
health and longevity.
Go to rawdogfoodandcompany.comwhere friends don't let friends
feed kibble, and where yourpet's health is our business.
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