April 22, 2025 • 55 mins
We dive deep into the controversial truth about pet vaccinations and explore why many health issues in pets may be linked to over-vaccination rather than diet or training.
• Questioning whether the rabies virus has ever been scientifically proven to exist
• Examining how vaccines like rabies may cause neurological damage and behavioral changes in pets
• Drawing parallels between increasing autism rates in children and behavioral issues in pets following vaccination
• Challenging the bacteria fear narrative that prevents many pet owners from trying raw feeding
• Discussing how fear-based beliefs about health can transfer from owners to their pets
• Exploring how seemingly "normal" pet behaviors like thunderstorm phobias may actually indicate neurological disturbances
• Highlighting the difference between healthy, alert raw-fed dogs versus "dumbed down" kibble-fed pets
Take the two-week raw feeding challenge: Switch your pet to a properly formulated raw diet for two weeks and see the difference in their health, energy, and behavior. Visit RawDogFoodAndCompany.com for a free consultation or AHAVet.com to schedule a wellness check with Dr. Judy Jasek.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh snap.
Hello Raw Feeders.
I'm Deedee Mercer-Moffitt, ceoof Raw Dog Food and Company
Weird Pets.
Health is our business andwe're friends, like my dear dear
friend Dr Judy Jasek.
I just love her because shedoesn't let friends feed Kibble.
Now do you, dr Jasek?
Not at all, not even with atopper on it Toppers.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Dr Marty's, I shouldn't have said his name.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I shouldn't have said that.
I try not to say things.
I try not to say words out loud, but it just flew out of my
mouth.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Sometimes it slips out, can't help it.
Um, I don't think I told youthis, but I got approached by a
company some company makingtheir own foods or whatever and
I like asked if I wanted to beinvolved or consult or something
or other.
And I went in there in Coloradoand I went and looked on their
website and they got a kibbletopper.
(00:52):
I'm like kidding, and thekibble topper is made from, like
brown rice and sweet potatoesand I'm like do I write them
back and tell them how horriblethat is?
Or you know, like just ignorethem because it's like, uh,
(01:12):
you've got to be kidding me.
You know you're asking herelike so, yeah, not even with.
I mean that.
I mean that to me that me that'slike one of the worst
contradictions.
To have some foods that arehealthy and some of the stuff
they were promoting was okay,but then at the same time,
(01:36):
you're promoting kibble toppers,like we've talked about.
Oh, just meeting people wherethey're at.
So people that still want tofeed kibble, they can just put
this topper on and keep theirpet.
Like how can they live that way?
It's like that's such acontradiction.
I don't know how companies cando that, but I mean aside from
(01:57):
the fact that they make moremoney doing that, but I don't
know how they can live withthemselves and do that.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, I guess you could say it like this they can
live with themselves and do that.
Well, I guess you could say itlike this um, did you want me to
consult you on, um, whichpoisons to put in your dog's
body?
Or, uh, no poisons in yourdog's body?
Uh, would you like the, the thepoison consult?
You know how many poisons andwhich poisons?
(02:22):
Or did you want the non-poisonconsole?
Wouldn't that be interesting ifyou could just put it out there
in the most truest and bluntterms of what it really is?
I mean, because you and I weretalking prior to the podcast and
you have been invited to be onChildren's Health Defense
(02:44):
Network.
You're going to be on therethis Thursday, right Live.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Financial Rebellion the Financial Rebellion show.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, and they've asked you to come on there to
talk about pet health, right,and you know it's so funny.
I think that's a great place tobe because RFK Jr right now you
know that is his, his site,right, and um, they are looking
(03:19):
into deeper, not that I don'tthink that he probably knows the
answer to that which he'sseeking in regards to, uh,
vaccines and autism, but you andI were talking about, um, the
whole rabies thing again.
Is it poison or is it not?
(03:40):
Is it a toxin or is it it not?
Is it okay to put a little bitin the body or not?
And, furthermore, is therereally a freaking need for it?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Right, right, that's the big thing yeah, that's the
big thing.
We were talking about ChristineMassey and her FOIA that it's
never been proven that therabies virus even exists.
You dig into the history asI've done.
It was all just made up,propaganda, and even the
contemporaries propaganda byLouis Pasteur, even his
(04:14):
contemporaries at the time havewritten that they didn't believe
him.
But it was all just made up.
So why is that narrative stuck?
Just made up?
So why is that narrative stuckin something like 150 years of
this fear around rabies?
And there's laws in every statejust about that require these
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shots.
You can't bring dogs into thecountry, you can't travel
internationally unless you getthe rabies.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
It is so ingrained is so ingrained, and that's the
only vaccine that's been thatit's that ingrained, okay, so
here here's what I wonder if youwere able to um prove which
which I think is provable thatrabies is not a thing, and then
(05:05):
there wouldn't be this vaccine,do you think that they hold onto
that?
Because they're like, oh mygosh, if that one, if that one
crumbles, then it's going to bea cascade effect on the human
side and we're going to havethis, you know, rebellion,
basically, I'm sure if, if theylet, if they let the truth come
(05:28):
out or really put it out thereoutside of just besides us few
kooky people that say, okay,it's never been actually proven
that viruses exist.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
If that became more mainstream thinking, the whole
vaccine industry would crumble.
I mean, how many?
Probably trillions of dollars.
If you added up animal side andhuman side, that's a lot of
money that would crumble thatwhole industry because it's all
based on.
We've got these little, youknow, boogeyman viruses that we
(06:00):
have to fight and we have tocreate health by giving
injections to children andanimals.
That's the only way they'regoing to be healthy, is
protecting them against you know, all of these things.
So, yeah, if you, you know,proved that concept or that I
mean it's actually has beenproven, if it was just accepted
(06:22):
in one case, sure crumble thewhole industry.
Yeah, and couldn't have that.
Those poor companies that loseall that money, oh man, it just
break my heart.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I mean yeah, it can't just be okay.
I mean, on one hand, yes, it is, there's a lot of money in the
rabies vaccines, but it has tobe, in my opinion, more than
that and, like I said, that itstarts a cascade effect, right?
So let's just take, forinstance, what happens, dr Jacek
(06:54):
, if Robert Kennedy Jr doesprove that autism is caused by a
toxin from said injection,whatever, that is Right.
And we've given all thesebabies and we've given all these
kids.
You know what?
(07:15):
What is going to happen.
You already see where these onthe media, right, where they're
coming out and saying that is sodangerous and look what he's
doing and they're villainizing.
You know, making him a villain,that he is trying to get to the
truth, which is very telling, Ithink, whenever you want to
(07:37):
stop people from investigatingas much as they can about
something that we definitely seegoing off the charts, right,
you see cancer off the charts,you see autism off the charts,
and it can't just be bad genes,it can't just be just food.
(08:00):
I mean, I think that we'reingesting a lot of toxins all
the time, whether that's water,air, food.
Certainly the sugar industry,for Pete's sake, is so addictive
and is so damaging.
Then let's add alcohol on topof that, right?
(08:20):
So all these different thingsthat would be a cascade effect
are they?
Are they actually gonna letsomebody prove that?
Is that I, I, you know, or?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
they'll or they'll, they'll find ways to discount it
.
I mean, like you know, you knowI've seen, you see the graphs.
I mean I've seen these are wellpublished, like the autism
rates and the number of vaccinesthat kids get.
So in the 80s, you know, theystarted giving lots more
vaccines and the autism ratejust shot up.
It's like one in 30.
(08:58):
That's crazy, that's a lot ofkids and the cost to, you know,
families and our society,because a lot of these kids
probably end up on disability.
You know medicaid, um, becausethe families just can't, it's
millions of dollars, you know,over the lifetime of these kids
to to take care of them.
(09:19):
It can be really tragic, it canbankrupt families, you know to
have have to, to have to takecare of them.
I mean that's a lot of kids.
And then she asked, well,what's changed?
I mean what's changed?
I mean OK, so we talk about,well, correlation isn't
causation.
But it's like, ok, well thenlet's do an experiment and let's
(09:40):
just change the vaccineschedule.
And let's just change thevaccine schedule, let's ask for
volunteers to do a researchstudy and say, okay, all you
people that don't want tovaccinate your kids anyway,
let's just track them.
How many of them get autism.
They don't want to do thatstudy either because they know
what'll come out.
(10:01):
I think it's the same thing inanimals behavioral problems.
Look at the cancer rates.
What?
It's the same thing in animalsbehavioral problems.
Look at the cancer rates.
You know what.
What happened after the covidthing and and that covid jab.
You heard all about all theseturbo cancers and people and the
cancer rates going up.
What are we seeing in pets?
Never used to see.
I'm working with a patient now.
(10:22):
It's so sad.
This dog is three years old andhas really severe lymphoma.
I mean, like this dog's havingtrouble breathing.
It's a lymph node.
It's so big.
I mean it's severe.
I I don't know if the dog'sgonna make it.
I mean we're trying.
Three years old, I mean, andwhat's?
And what's changed?
(10:44):
This dog actually was not veryheavily vaccinated either.
This dog's a mystery, but issetting it off in this dog?
But we know that they're beenusing they're using more mRNA
technology and animal vaccines.
I see the ads.
You know you get these things,cause every veterinarian gets
them.
You know you get.
You know these advertisementsand they're saying using this
(11:06):
new mRNA technology and all thatsame technology, they're using
the COVID shot.
I think they're using the samestuff and it's causing the the
same problems the cancers, thebehavioral changes.
I think people have just gottenso used to seeing kind of
dumbed down dogs that they don'tknow what a normal, healthy,
(11:27):
alert dog that's not been overvaccinated, eating a raw diet,
really looks like.
Just like I think a lot ofpeople don't know what normal
kids like anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You know, it's pretty , pretty sad you know, I'm
always amazed at the dogs that Isee that are just not with it.
Right, like they don'tunderstand fully what you're
saying.
They're easily agitated oreasily distracted, right Like I,
(12:07):
like I know you guys, probablyI, I sound like my mom, who's
always bragged about us, and herfriends are probably like we
don't want to hear you bragabout your kids anymore.
Okay, I'm going to have to bragabout laws.
The dog can, can see my handsignals.
I can literally do to the rightand she will run right.
(12:28):
I can do it to the left andshe'll run left, because we, the
, where we walk, there's a bigbike path, so I'm looking across
the bike and I'll give her thisand she'll run this direction
and then I'll say sit, boom, shesits, and then I'll shoot her
over to this side, you know.
Or she'll leave her toy waybehind us and I'm like go get it
(12:50):
, and that's all I have to say,and she'll run back and get it,
you know.
And then I've seen other dogsthat are like I don't even get
you, like what is this?
That's moving your pie hole.
Your pie hole is sayingsomething, but I don't get it
Right and I'm like that seemsvery like a neurological problem
, right.
(13:10):
That seems like there'ssomething that's clouding their
mind, their eye, they're notmaking good contact, they're not
able to observe theirenvironment the way that dogs
are meant to observe theirenvironment, right?
So there seems to be somethingquite off and I just can't
believe that it's just badtraining, right?
(13:34):
Or bad food.
Yes, both of those are acontributing factor if you give
mixed signals, right.
But here's the thing Mostpeople are pretty consistent,
most pet parents are prettyconsistent in what they say to
their dogs and the way theytreat their dogs and the way
that they give commands.
So eventually that dog, youknow, is going to pick those up,
right, and that would beconsistent.
(13:57):
So I have to think that it'ssomething else.
And certainly you and I haveseen massive groups of dogs,
right, we've seen the ones thatare coming over from lots of
vaccines, lots of bad food Okay,let's take the training out of
it.
We see what that dog looks like, smells like, acts like, versus
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the ones where people havealready had that and they say,
hey, I'm going to raise this dogdifferently.
There's a vast differencebetween those two dogs and we're
not making that up.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And I've had people tell me that they've seen their
dog change.
Same like when people, parents,say they give one of their kids
a vaccine and they're just notthe same afterwards.
That people say that and andand.
A lot of it's been after therabies vaccine.
The rabies vaccine definitelyhas neurologic effects, cause
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they'll say you know, I justgave that one vaccine and dog
was just never the same.
Personality changed.
They're just sort of blank.
It's Like you said.
They're just sort of lights areon but nobody's home, you know,
and they're not the same.
The other thing I see reallyincrease is a phobias, you know,
dogs afraid.
Why should dogs be afraid ofthunderstorms?
(15:16):
It's a natural thing.
Why should they be afraid of ofnoises to the point that
they're, like you know, of ofnoises to the point that they're
, like you know, destroying thehouse because they're just so
terrified of noises?
Like that shouldn't be likethose types of phobias.
That is.
That's a neurologic disturbanceand I agree I don't think that
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comes from the diet.
I think the diet helps.
They've actually shown that inautistic children, that when
autistic children get off thesugars, get off the gluten, get
on a healthy diet, especially aketogenic diet, because it's
good for the brain that theirautism symptoms get much better
and some kids can even, you know, get off the spectrum to where
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they're developing normally.
So the diet can definitely help.
That's why it's important toeat the raw diet we preach about
every week.
But I think the vaccines reallyplay a role and not all dogs,
you know, get get past that,especially when you're giving so
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many at at one time.
And the other thing is, youknow, for people that have a
lifestyle, they're going totravel, they're like I just I
gotta travel with my dog, Igotta get the rabies shot.
Well, if you're feeding a gooddiet, I mean, my opinion is, you
know, go places that your dogneeds a rabies shot.
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But, um, if you're gonna do itand you're feeding a good diet,
your dog needs a rabies shot.
But if you're going to do itand you're feeding a good diet,
your dog's going to stand abetter chance of processing the
toxins and not not having theside effects.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
You know, I'm excited about this interview that
you're going to do, because thewoman that that is going to
interview you is an attorney,correct?
Mm-hmm?
Okay, the name of the show iswhat?
Financial?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Rebellion.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Financial Rebellion?
Yeah, and it's a part of theChildren's Defense Network,
mm-hmm.
Okay, so hopefully, when you'reon there, you able to ask what
is her name?
Carolyn, the lady that's gonna.
Okay, carolyn, who's gonnainterview you if, when a foia
(17:36):
request is made?
Okay, like what christine masseydoes, right, so she goes to all
of these CDC, the World HealthOrganization, the NIH.
She goes to all these differentorganizations and ask for the
information that would show thatsaid virus was the cause of
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this outbreak or disease or thatthey've actually been able to
identify, right, these virusesTo which, to this day and
probably now, over 300 of theseFOIA requests have come back
without any evidence whatsoever.
So it would be very interestingif you remember to ask Carolyn
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and they lie, if somebodyrequests a FOIA you know the
Freedom of Information Act if wecould get the information that
substantiates the claim.
Right?
Let's take rabies that rabiesexists and that we tested it,
that we know it exists, that weknow that this said vaccine
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actually takes away the riskfrom said virus that we've never
found.
I mean, can they lie about that?
That would be an interestingquestion, because I can just
hear people.
Dr Jasek, well, that can't betrue.
They probably were just lyingabout it and didn't want to give
that information to ChristineMassey, and I'm like that
(19:11):
doesn't make any sense, becauseif they actually had something
that they had proved, don't youthink they'd be smashing that in
our sphincter all the time?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, you would think so.
If they had the actuallegitimate proof, it wouldn't
come into question.
The problem is they just saythat it exists.
They say here's a picture ofthe rabies virus, but they have
no definitive proof that what isin that picture.
(19:46):
They have pictures.
They say the rabies is a littlebullet shaped virus.
It's like little bullets.
It's never ever been proventhat what that is causes rabies
causes disease.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
And why has nobody?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
ever asked that.
Did you think a medicalprofessional would?
I mean I asked that we askedthat did you think of a medical
professional when I?
I mean I asked that we askedthat.
Why didn't anybody else askthat?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
well, what, what, what.
What answer do you get when youask that question?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
people just believe the narrative.
The narrative, they justbelieve you know, well, you know
, I I that that that it's beenthat the animals they say the
animals have been tested for itand been shown to have it.
But what tests?
How has it been?
(20:38):
Again, these tests are justlooking for these things.
And the thing about all thesetests, these little, pretty
microscopic pictures, once youtake something.
If I've learned anything or Igot anything really valuable, I
feel, from Dr Tom Collin is thiswhen you take anything out of
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the body and look at it, it'snot in its normal state ever.
And when you take something outof the body, you look into the
microscope, you're drying it,you're staining it.
That's not what it looks likein the body.
How do you know that theselittle things you're seeing
aren't artifacts?
But people believe the test.
They say well, the dog testedpositive for rabies.
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Well, how do you know that testis valid?
Well, because the CDC says so.
You know, it's like, and it'sjust so ingrained in people's
minds.
Even people that are moreholistically oriented will still
believe the rabies narrative,even though it's it's never been
(21:44):
proven.
Louis Pasteur, who supposedlystarted the whole thing, he
identified, you know, quoteunquote mad dogs.
These were dogs that weresalivating, were aggressive,
were in ill health, they mightbite people, aggressive, were in
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ill health, they might bitepeople.
And then he, he took the.
What he did was he took thesaliva from these dogs and he
injected it into rabbits brainsand the rabbits got neurologic
symptoms.
So he said, okay, the dogs musthave this virus.
And he called it rabies.
I don't even know where thatname came from, actually, but he
called it rabies and saidthat's what rabies is.
Well, you inject anything intoan animal's brain, it's going to
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have neurologic symptomsbecause it's not supposed to be
sticking needles into it.
Come on.
It's like you can stick salineinto a rabbit's brain and you're
not supposed to be stickingneedles in there and they're
going to have symptoms.
So then he said, okay, well,the dogs are acting this way
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because of the virus, but theynever investigated what else
could be.
A lot of the dogs were starved.
They were abused, they were.
They were starving, so theywere malnourished.
They're eating all kinds ofanything they could pick up so
they could get toxins, any sores, any kind of a sore in the
mouth that's going to cause themto salivate.
So they never looked at, theynever took any of these dogs and
said, okay, what if we feedthem a better diet, put them in
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better health conditions, youknow, take care of them, give
them a loving home?
Do these symptoms go away?
No, they just destroyed them.
So it was all really made upwithout any proof and it's
persisted for years.
And I think the reason it'spersisted is because of the fear
.
There's a lot of fear generatedin the media.
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You know, you've seen movieswith these rabid dog old yeller
got rabies, you know, and allthis stuff is they really played
up this narrative becausepeople can supposedly get rabies
is supposedly the one virusthat all mammals can get.
So people can get it from thebite of a dog and that's what
the veterinarians are playing.
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I'm all like you come in herewith your dog, it's not
vaccinated while I'm putting mywhole staff at risk when I say
let them go get the damn shot,leave the dogs alone.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Right.
Well, I'm telling you, I'vesaid this to you guys before my
father, when he was a kid, therewas a rabid supposedly okay, he
didn't even get bitten, butsupposedly in his neighborhood
there was some sort of rabid dog.
They were all going crazy.
So what did he get Shots in thestomach, and you know what he
got from that Encephalitis.
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His brain swelled.
And you know what he got fromthat, what they called, you know
, polio.
You know there was, and thatwas also the time of DDT.
So I mean so many things.
I'm like he never even got bitRight and yet they did this
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crazy stuff.
To the point, his brain swelledso bad that he had to learn how
to speak over again.
I mean, it was a bad deal.
It was a bad deal.
What?
What happened to him with these, with these shots and um, so
again, the, theseunsubstantiated fears are so
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easy to project onto the world.
Right, you and I have seen thisso many times oh, there's an
outbreak over here.
Well, really, let's see thetest right.
And if anybody could havefigured this out, well, it had
to be Fauci could have figuredthis out, dr Jasey, because he
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was doing all types of horrible,terrible tests on animals, this
little Oompa Loompa, which Iheard him called the other day,
which I think is fantastical.
Oompa Loompa, um, you know this, this guy's really evil.
Has no problem seeing people orpets uh, suffer um I think he
(25:49):
must enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
How can you cause so much suffering and you don't
have this evil at your core thatenjoys watching it?
Because it's not natural.
Nobody could harm so manypeople.
He orchestrated the wholesupposed AIDS outbreak, where
the truth of the matter was thatthe people were actually being
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poisoned by the drug.
I'm blanking on it.
What's?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
that AZ-T.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, the AZ-T drug that they used for to supposedly
treat AIDS, which was what wasultimately killing the patients,
and the initial symptoms werewhat people say.
That don't believe.
The whole AIDS narrative wasbecause of the lifestyle,
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because it was primarily in gaymen and they didn't have a
particularly healthy lifestyleI'm partying a lot and a lot of
drugs and alcohol and all thisstuff so they would be not the
healthiest people to begin with.
So they kind of picked on thatpopulation and started they
named this thing called AIDS andthen they started injecting the
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drugs.
And it was the drugs thatreally made them sick, the AZT
not.
That created the AIDS, becausethere's the virus, the supposed,
you know, humanimmunodeficiency virus.
Hiv AIDS was the autoimmunedeficiency syndrome.
That was the whole syndromewhere they just got all these
chronic diseases and just wentto hell.
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That was caused by thetreatment, not by some virus.
It's just so easy to blameanything, not about polio.
Polio, like you were saying,because your dad it's linked to
DDT came about during the timeof DDT.
And then they come out with thevaccine, quit using DDT.
Oh, the vaccine has saved theworld where really it was the
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toxicity from the, you know,from the pesticide all along.
We've really been really beenlied to.
You really got to just sit backand say can I believe anything?
I've been told.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Well, I don't know what I'm supposed to do, Dr
Jasek, if I don't believeanything.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
How do I go on?
Trust your gut, do what'snatural.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
But my gut, but here, this is the only problem I have
with trusting the gut.
Okay, here's one of my issueswith that.
Okay, here's one of my issueswith that.
Your gut, okay, typically picksup on what you believe, right?
(28:32):
So let's say this that if youare a huge proponent of vaccines
which is good, you know, youthink that they are the best
things that slice bread.
I find it hard to believe thereare folks that think like that,
but I do know that there are,because we saw a bunch of them
during the covet.
Um, love them, I want everyvaccine.
Because I think I don't, Idon't in, I don't believe and I
(28:55):
don't see that these peoplesigned up for fetal bovine
kidney cell, formaldehyde,mercury, thermosyl, you know,
bromine.
They don't really realize allthose things that are going into
their body, right?
They don't say, hey, inject mewith all of that stuff that
looks like you know the stuffunder the kitchen sink.
(29:16):
They don't really get that.
What they think is I'm gettingsome sort of great um protection
against the boogeyman that'sfloating, you know, up my
nostrils.
Okay, this is, this is whatthey're thinking um.
And now I've lost my train ofthought.
(29:36):
Uh, that I was going trustingyour gut, okay thank you very
much.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Your problem with trusting your gut, because I'm
anxious to hear this Grab itback, come back.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
So if you really believe that, right or wrong,
true or false, the trusting yourgut, to me seems that it could
lead you down the wrong pathbecause it's bouncing off what
you truly believe.
So if you really truly believethat something is going to
(30:10):
protect you and you've heardshows like this one say, I don't
know now, bunch of toxins inthere, I don't know now, bunch
of toxins in there.
And they're sitting in front oftheir pharmacist and the
pharmacist says would you likethe shingles and the COVID and
the?
Speaker 2 (30:29):
RSV.
Would you like all those?
Just like pneumonia yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I'll just give them to y'all in one arm and they're
like I'm going with my gut.
My gut says, yeah, I need to beprotected.
Why?
Because I have a belief in that.
So I don't know, if you have arebuttal, tell me.
But sometimes I'm like can Ireally trust my gut?
Because could it be that mybeliefs that I've picked up and
(30:55):
I've just decided it's true,haven't really investigated if
that belief is based on anything?
I just decided to believe it?
Could it really influence mygut?
And then my gut takes me downthe wrong damn road.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I, I suppose it's true.
I I think, if I've heard a lotof people tell me about their
pets, though, that you know like, yeah, I just knew I shouldn't
have done that shot, like theyknew.
But they were told by the, thevet, that they needed that to be
(31:31):
protected.
So in their head that soundedgood, but their gut was telling
them, yeah, maybe that's not,maybe that's not, maybe that's
not the best thing.
So maybe, if you're, maybe youcould be more in your head and
really listening to what yourgut's telling you.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Well, yeah, I like it .
I like it what you're sayingthere.
And then you have to takeanother step backwards and say
why is it that we trust otherpeople more than ourselves?
Is it because we've mademistakes and we're like, ah,
(32:12):
that feels like, that feels likehell, it feels like torture
when I make a mistake and I havea regret that I made this
mistake?
Therefore, I don't really trustmyself.
I don't know if I can reallymake an educated decision.
Maybe you can make an educateddecision better than me.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I think part of it too is where do you see?
Think part of it too is wheredo you see health coming from?
Like is to me believing thatyou need vaccines to stay
healthy.
You're giving your power away.
If you believe, like I do, thatyour power to heal is within
(32:58):
you, then you you shouldn't needlike those external things.
You need to activate that, thatpower within.
So I guess I would be askingwhere did that belief come from?
Where were you fed thatinformation?
From your doctor, from themedia, like, where did that,
(33:20):
where did that information comefrom?
And then, is that belief reallytrue for you or what you know
was it?
Was it propaganda?
Because I I think people dobelieve things they they hear in
in the media of course that'swhy we have it.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
But where?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
but I think you have to ask that question where is
that coming?
I mean, why do you believe whatyou believe?
Because you know, becauseyou're, I mean, I start to ask
you know clients that sometimeslike well, why, why do you
believe that?
Why do you think you know?
Why do you think your dog hasLyme disease?
Well, because it testedpositive.
(34:02):
How do we know we can believethe test?
The test is an antibody test.
It could just mean exposure.
Well, it's because it's gotthese symptoms.
Well, could those symptoms befrom anything else?
Because what happens is youknow, there, once you have a
believe, believe your dog hasLyme disease and all the
symptoms are, like, attributedto it.
(34:23):
So maybe it's not like I gotthe answers here, but maybe we
need to examine where ourbeliefs come from.
Why do we believe what webelieve?
And maybe that would be part ofthat answer answer?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, well, I told you that.
You know in the hospital whatthey say to cancer patients
can't eat raw veggies, can't eatraw food, got to be cooked to
death.
Cook all the goodness out of it, cook it, because that's
healthier for you.
And my question was what are weafraid of?
(34:57):
What are we afraid of?
Oh, salmonella, e coli andlisteria.
Okay, and we have proof thatthis has caused irreparable
damage to patients.
Not the chemo, not the radiation, not the antibiotic.
It's the bacteria on the food.
Seriously, I mean there is noanswer for that and that, but I
(35:24):
will say that I see this in theraw diet all the time.
Right, dog eats a raw diet.
Dog has loose stools, you know,maybe throws up, and it's
automatically some type ofbacteria.
Okay, that's one.
And you can never change petparents' minds.
(35:45):
They got that.
I mean that fear is soingrained that it's like I would
rather feed my dog boiledchicken and rice that has no
nutritional value in itwhatsoever when it's not unwell
or when it's not feeling good.
Or I would rather stuff thatdown their throat than just
(36:06):
letting them fast for a coupleof days.
It is just, it's got to bebacteria, or I have tracked this
, dr Jacek, not like you know tothe T, but I see it over and
over and over again, and thisone is really funny when the
(36:28):
plants run out of labels or theyrun out of the sleeves that the
food goes in and it just comesout in a pure white casing with
the label on it, we invariablyget calls my dog won't eat this.
(36:54):
You've changed the recipe.
You've changed something.
You change.
My dog won't eat it.
Because I'm like it's notdifferent, it is the exact same
food.
Now, I can't tell you whetherthat's the pet parent having
(37:14):
that fear and that thought andthat transfers over to the dog
or not, but I can tell you thatthere is nothing different about
the recipe.
Now, when I say that you're notgoing to get the same cow you
had the last time, becausethere's only so much cow to go
(37:35):
around, because once the cow'sgone, the cow's gone.
We got a new cow coming in.
Okay, it's sort of like if, if,if you and I, dr jasic, were the
you know being ground up and,um, like soylent green, right
the show, we're being ground up.
You eat a, a, really, you knowyou eat like a very different
(37:56):
than I do.
And, uh, you, you don't do anygluten.
I eat gluten because I neverchecked to see if there is
gluten.
So I'm sure there is gluten.
Maybe you don't eat dairy.
You know there's differentthings.
Now can I say that typicallythe animals are fed the same
thing it could be, but seasonschange, you guys, and if they
(38:17):
can't eat grass because there'ssnow covered, we can't let them
starve to death.
They're going to eat somethingdifferent.
Okay Now, if that cow is in theTexas region versus a cow
that's in the Pennsylvaniaregion, maybe there's going to
be a little difference there.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
They're eating different grasses, whatever you
know, and then different thingsgrow in the pasture depending on
the year and on the waterfalland the region, so they're going
to taste different depending onwhat they're eating right, but
I will tell you that it's.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
It's a weird phenomena that I see people will
call me saying my dog won't eatthis.
So we're like, give them onewith the label on it.
Give them one, try to find, youknow, and don't show them the
package, because maybe theythink that it's different.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
And if you show the dog the package, maybe they're
like, hey, that's different.
I'm just wondering Is momtrying to pull something over?
I'm thinking it's time for mybeef rotation and maybe she's
trying to feed me chicken orsomething, because the
packaging's changed, so maybethey just shouldn't be showing
it to their dogs.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
People say that I'm really facetious, but I'm
serious, I totally believe you,I can just totally see that
people and you know, what youknow what I think back to
beliefs.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I think the way to know a false belief is if the
belief is based in fear.
If you're afraid, because Ithink, if you're afraid of
something, if you're doingsomething because you, because
you're afraid of something,you're afraid of getting a
disease, or you're afraid, thenI think that's that could be a
(40:04):
sign of a false belief.
You're afraid, you know thefood's bad or whatever.
They put that fear energy intothe dog's bowl and the dog feels
it.
Or they put it down for 10seconds the dog can think see,
dog didn't eat it.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
You know that I eat raw meat, right, you know I eat
raw hamburger meat.
Yeah, okay, I love it.
But I will say this Sometimes,you know, it's like this tastes
a little off, tastes a littleoff to me.
So I give it to Lazi and she'slike this is damn good.
Yeah, she's like this is damngood.
Yeah, she's like give me allyour stuff.
And there was some.
(40:41):
What was pork?
You know it was cooked.
Obviously I don't eat raw pork,but it was a pre-cooked some
pork.
And you know, a lot of timesI'll do like a three-day fast.
I forget to put my stuff in,like the freezer so it goes.
(41:01):
You know, know, doesn't smellso good and I I give all the
stuff that doesn't smell good tome.
My food, uh, in Lassie's food,right, I mean, she eats, as you
guys might suspect, every singletype of food that we have.
She eats, right, it's a bigrotation.
Um, and it's so funny becausemost pet parents are like, ooh,
(41:24):
that probably would make my dogsick.
It's a little off to me.
I'm like it won't, it won't.
I just don't get.
I don't get how this bacteriafear is.
You got to test it out, jacek?
I mean you really?
(41:44):
I mean, I guess maybe that'swhy you and I and neely and all
of us that do the, the rawfeeding, um just don't worry
about it and therefore thatvibration of fear or worry
doesn't get transferred onto thedogs because we have no fear of
it I think that's a big part ofit.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I really do, because what I mean?
What other explanation couldthere be?
It's not bad, and even thatfood that smells a little bad to
you might not even hurt you.
If you didn't believe, youweren't afraid that it was gonna
be bad for you.
It might taste a little funky,but that's just what happens.
(42:23):
It's like fruit, you know, like.
How do you know that fruit isripe?
But you kind of smell it, youknow.
I mean, ripening is really justa part of the rotting process.
You just eat it before it rots,right, but it changes texture,
changes the smell and all thosesugars that are created.
(42:45):
It's because it's breaking downthe fruit, the fruit's breaking
down.
You let it go too long and itgets a little mushy and a little
funky and doesn't.
It's not as appealing, but itdoesn't mean it's bad, it's just
part of it's just going away.
Just like us, we're going to goaway someday too.
We'll probably smell pretty badtoo someday when we're going
(43:07):
away.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
That's called old people smell.
You know, I was asking my momabout Easter.
She went over to my brother'sand I asked if my nephew showed
up and she said no, he didn'tcome because his little boy had
some sort of a virus, you know,vomiting and throwing up, and so
(43:35):
we didn't want him to come andinfect everybody else.
Okay, and I was like, okay, youknow, I mean, I guess it's it,
it goes back to that, right, soevery everybody looks at that as
something that gets passedaround.
(43:56):
But I'm like, if, if, I, Iguess I'd want to test that out.
Right, just have somebody come.
Right, everybody is in thisenvironment, okay, and you bring
somebody that was in anotherenvironment, that was supposedly
, you know, sick with something,and put them in this
(44:18):
environment.
Does everybody get sick, right?
Or is it that everybody getssick because they're eating the
same thing, they're drinking thesame thing?
You see what I'm saying?
I just it's so hard to makethat kind of make that
distinction and yet we cannotget the FOIA request back to
(44:41):
that.
That shows that these virusesare actually existing, right,
that these viruses are actuallyexisting, right.
So, supposedly, supposedly,something was going around in
Oklahoma, right, it's one of myparents.
We got this thing going around.
You know, all my kids aregetting sick, they're getting
diarrhea, they're getting thisand that Kids at the daycare are
(45:02):
getting hand-to-mouth disease,and so you're just like nobody
will stop and really look atthat and say what is happening.
So, like these, these kids arein this daycare.
Okay, like these little kids inthe daycare, they're together,
eating on the same toys, lickingon the same floors, you know,
doing what kids do, but none ofthe parents, none of the parents
(45:27):
.
I'm like, well, if it's a virus, how is it that none of the
parents are experiencing thesame thing?
It couldn't be a contact thing.
Could it be a cleaning solution?
Could it be?
What could it be?
Could it be something different?
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Something toxic.
And then I mean, like you know,they feed them snacks there or
something.
You know, maybe there's acommon snack, something that
they ate.
You know, red dye, number 40 orsomething you know made them
all sick.
I mean, who knows?
I think it could be, I think itcould be a lot of different
things.
How about, you know, do they gooutside and play?
Are there pesticides?
(46:07):
Are they spraying weeds outthere?
Are they spraying the weeds outthere?
You know they do that inplaygrounds.
You know, did they all get agood dose of glyphosate out
there, maybe Playing?
They're running, playing, getit on their hands, and then they
don't wash their hands and theycome in and eat.
And you know, I mean there canbe all sorts of reasons for it.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
But if it's a virus, wouldn't you think that the
parents would get it?
And here's how we justify that,or we reason it away.
We say, well, the immune system, the immune system is different
.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
The adults have a stronger immune system.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
You're just like, do they?
How are we testing that?
How are we um knowing thatbeyond just the belief?
Speaker 2 (46:54):
it's and that it's.
It's a popular popularnarrative, and then once enough
people believe something andit's said enough times, it
becomes true, whether it is ornot yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
So anyway, it's just it's.
It's so interesting because I'dlike to know the truth.
I I would like to see thetesting done.
I would like to know the truth.
The problem is dr jaycee, who'sgonna do it?
Who is going to?
Speaker 2 (47:21):
really.
That's why this is the raw dogfood truth podcast.
That is right.
That's why we do this right andwe yak and we toss this stuff
around because we want the truth, because I don't know.
I think I'm learning more andmore what's not true, but
(47:44):
finding out what is really trueis harder.
I think it's safe to say thatmost of what we've been taught
in medicine and about health andin the conventional side has
not been true.
There's been ulterior motivesand we know that what's been
taught in nutrition for pets andpeople is not true.
(48:04):
Well, I think we know what'strue in the diet for dogs and
cats.
I, you know, feel like I knowwhat's the best diet to feed a
dog or a cat for, pretty, prettydang sure.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
And back to Belize.
You can talk to your blue inthe face I can talk to.
I'm green in the face, right.
And if somebody believes thatthey must have buttloads of
synthetics in their dog's food,they're going to do it, because
I see that all the time too.
(48:34):
If they believe that kibble hasmassive amounts of nutrients in
it and that it cleans theirdog's teeth because the breeder
or a vet gave him a prescriptiondiet, there is nothing that you
and I are going to be able todo, but the one thing that a pet
parent can do to see it forthemselves is to try it.
(48:59):
Do the raw diet for two weeks,and I don't mean throw them a
steak.
Let someone like us help youpick it out, feed it to your
dogs.
It's got the right amount ofbone, organs and fat and meat in
it.
Okay, give it a good solid twoweeks and let's just see what
(49:26):
you think.
Don't take our word for it let'sjust see what you think,
because I just bet you, I wouldjust bet the old sphincter okay,
that your dog is going to love.
It is going to feel better,look better, better, smell
(49:47):
better, better poops, better gutdigestive issues, better skin
issues, if you will give it atry.
You don't have to believe me,you don't have to believe Dr
Jacek, but just see what youreyes say.
But you can't do it half-assed.
Okay, you go.
Okay, well, I'm on my, I'mgonna cheat just a little, just
(50:09):
gonna cheat a little bit.
Okay, I can't, I just can't,can't go all the way because
they're afraid.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Well, the deal is all the fear, the deal, the fear,
yeah, and the deal is off.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
right, the deal is off if, if you gotta cheat,
there ain't cheating, there'llbe a cheater.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Because even a little bit of poison is still poison.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Come on, dr Jason, that's no fun.
Hey, do you think that RobertKennedy is going to be
successful in making someheadway?
What do you think?
Do you think they're going toactually let him?
I don't know, I mean that's thequestion.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Are they going to let him?
Do you think they're going toactually let him?
I don't know.
I mean, that's the question Arethey going to let him?
I mean, I think he's very wellintentioned in getting you know.
He says he wants to get theevidence, but are they going to
let him have the information?
Is the evidence going to bepresented truthfully, and all of
the evidence, or are we goingto get part of the story and
(51:08):
they're going to say, well, okay, we can see these correlations,
but it doesn't prove anything?
I was listening to a podcast, astory this was actually on chd
where a woman was beinginterviewed who whose children
had one of her sons had startedto act, show some signs of
autism after a vaccine, and thedoctor told her that some
(51:32):
children are just predisposedand sooner or later they're
predisposed to autism.
Sooner or later something'sgoing to cause it to come out,
and if it wasn't the vaccine, itwould have been some other
illness or something else thathappened, but sooner or later it
would have come out becausehe's just going to get it.
That's, you know, that's whatthey're told.
(51:52):
So I know, are they going topresent truthful information?
Are they going to allow all theinformation to come out?
I don't know.
That's the question.
I think the information isunquestionably there, that the
link between autism and vaccines.
It's just if they let it outand how they let it out.
(52:12):
And what other counternarrative do they present?
Or we go to war with China andthen everybody gets distracted,
or something else.
They do that too right, so thatinterview.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
And everybody gets distracted with something else.
I don't, they do that too,right, right, all right, so that
interview.
You guys.
Do you have to be a member ofChildren's Health Defense
website in order to hear thatinterview that you'll be doing?
Will it be live on Thursday?
And then it will go into anarchive where people can also
hear it?
Yep, I'll send you the link andyou can post it.
Okay, great, now listen youguys.
April is almost over and DrJacek is still.
(52:52):
You can still get her Aprilwellness checkups, okay, and
this is the time that you wantto get a checkup.
This is not your standard.
Hey, we're doing a checkup andhere's your flea and take your
heartworm and your rabies, okay,so what you will get with dr
jacek is a healthier alternativeto all of these actual wellness
(53:14):
, not creating sickness exam.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Actual, keep getting, you should well you should have
.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Maybe you should have been really sarcastic.
I think you should have namedthis a really sarcastic like
program.
Like you said, no BS checkup orI don't know.
We we, you and I should havethought about this, dr Jason.
We should have said you know,this is, this is not up, your
(53:42):
sphincter wellness checkup.
This is like you know we shouldhave.
We should have come up with areally snarky name for it, okay,
well, we'll work on that fornext time.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Okay, your next promotion you call me because
you know I'm all for thesnarkiness If anybody could come
up with a snarky title.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
it would be you.
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And you can schedule them like into May, but you got
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How about that?
Who is out there offering thatkind of program?
I don't know anyone.
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Now do you, dr Jasek?
Not at all, not even with atopper on it Toppers.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Dr Marty's, I shouldn't have said his name.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I shouldn't have said that.
I try not to say things.
I try not to say words out loud, but it just flew out of my
mouth.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Sometimes it slips out, can't help it.
Um, I don't think I told youthis, but I got approached by a
company some company makingtheir own foods or whatever and
I like asked if I wanted to beinvolved or consult or something
or other.
And I went in there in Coloradoand I went and looked on their
website and they got a kibbletopper.
(00:52):
I'm like kidding, and thekibble topper is made from, like
brown rice and sweet potatoesand I'm like do I write them
back and tell them how horriblethat is?
Or you know, like just ignorethem because it's like, uh,
(01:12):
you've got to be kidding me.
You know you're asking herelike so, yeah, not even with.
I mean that.
I mean that to me that me that'slike one of the worst
contradictions.
To have some foods that arehealthy and some of the stuff
they were promoting was okay,but then at the same time,
(01:36):
you're promoting kibble toppers,like we've talked about.
Oh, just meeting people wherethey're at.
So people that still want tofeed kibble, they can just put
this topper on and keep theirpet.
Like how can they live that way?
It's like that's such acontradiction.
I don't know how companies cando that, but I mean aside from
(01:57):
the fact that they make moremoney doing that, but I don't
know how they can live withthemselves and do that.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, I guess you could say it like this they can
live with themselves and do that.
Well, I guess you could say itlike this um, did you want me to
consult you on, um, whichpoisons to put in your dog's
body?
Or, uh, no poisons in yourdog's body?
Uh, would you like the, the thepoison consult?
You know how many poisons andwhich poisons?
(02:22):
Or did you want the non-poisonconsole?
Wouldn't that be interesting ifyou could just put it out there
in the most truest and bluntterms of what it really is?
I mean, because you and I weretalking prior to the podcast and
you have been invited to be onChildren's Health Defense
(02:44):
Network.
You're going to be on therethis Thursday, right Live.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Financial Rebellion the Financial Rebellion show.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, and they've asked you to come on there to
talk about pet health, right,and you know it's so funny.
I think that's a great place tobe because RFK Jr right now you
know that is his, his site,right, and um, they are looking
(03:19):
into deeper, not that I don'tthink that he probably knows the
answer to that which he'sseeking in regards to, uh,
vaccines and autism, but you andI were talking about, um, the
whole rabies thing again.
Is it poison or is it not?
(03:40):
Is it a toxin or is it it not?
Is it okay to put a little bitin the body or not?
And, furthermore, is therereally a freaking need for it?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Right, right, that's the big thing yeah, that's the
big thing.
We were talking about ChristineMassey and her FOIA that it's
never been proven that therabies virus even exists.
You dig into the history asI've done.
It was all just made up,propaganda, and even the
contemporaries propaganda byLouis Pasteur, even his
(04:14):
contemporaries at the time havewritten that they didn't believe
him.
But it was all just made up.
So why is that narrative stuck?
Just made up?
So why is that narrative stuckin something like 150 years of
this fear around rabies?
And there's laws in every statejust about that require these
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shots.
You can't bring dogs into thecountry, you can't travel
internationally unless you getthe rabies.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
It is so ingrained is so ingrained, and that's the
only vaccine that's been thatit's that ingrained, okay, so
here here's what I wonder if youwere able to um prove which
which I think is provable thatrabies is not a thing, and then
(05:05):
there wouldn't be this vaccine,do you think that they hold onto
that?
Because they're like, oh mygosh, if that one, if that one
crumbles, then it's going to bea cascade effect on the human
side and we're going to havethis, you know, rebellion,
basically, I'm sure if, if theylet, if they let the truth come
(05:28):
out or really put it out thereoutside of just besides us few
kooky people that say, okay,it's never been actually proven
that viruses exist.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
If that became more mainstream thinking, the whole
vaccine industry would crumble.
I mean, how many?
Probably trillions of dollars.
If you added up animal side andhuman side, that's a lot of
money that would crumble thatwhole industry because it's all
based on.
We've got these little, youknow, boogeyman viruses that we
(06:00):
have to fight and we have tocreate health by giving
injections to children andanimals.
That's the only way they'regoing to be healthy, is
protecting them against you know, all of these things.
So, yeah, if you, you know,proved that concept or that I
mean it's actually has beenproven, if it was just accepted
(06:22):
in one case, sure crumble thewhole industry.
Yeah, and couldn't have that.
Those poor companies that loseall that money, oh man, it just
break my heart.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I mean yeah, it can't just be okay.
I mean, on one hand, yes, it is, there's a lot of money in the
rabies vaccines, but it has tobe, in my opinion, more than
that and, like I said, that itstarts a cascade effect, right?
So let's just take, forinstance, what happens, dr Jacek
(06:54):
, if Robert Kennedy Jr doesprove that autism is caused by a
toxin from said injection,whatever, that is Right.
And we've given all thesebabies and we've given all these
kids.
You know what?
(07:15):
What is going to happen.
You already see where these onthe media, right, where they're
coming out and saying that is sodangerous and look what he's
doing and they're villainizing.
You know, making him a villain,that he is trying to get to the
truth, which is very telling, Ithink, whenever you want to
(07:37):
stop people from investigatingas much as they can about
something that we definitely seegoing off the charts, right,
you see cancer off the charts,you see autism off the charts,
and it can't just be bad genes,it can't just be just food.
(08:00):
I mean, I think that we'reingesting a lot of toxins all
the time, whether that's water,air, food.
Certainly the sugar industry,for Pete's sake, is so addictive
and is so damaging.
Then let's add alcohol on topof that, right?
(08:20):
So all these different thingsthat would be a cascade effect
are they?
Are they actually gonna letsomebody prove that?
Is that I, I, you know, or?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
they'll or they'll, they'll find ways to discount it
.
I mean, like you know, you knowI've seen, you see the graphs.
I mean I've seen these are wellpublished, like the autism
rates and the number of vaccinesthat kids get.
So in the 80s, you know, theystarted giving lots more
vaccines and the autism ratejust shot up.
It's like one in 30.
(08:58):
That's crazy, that's a lot ofkids and the cost to, you know,
families and our society,because a lot of these kids
probably end up on disability.
You know medicaid, um, becausethe families just can't, it's
millions of dollars, you know,over the lifetime of these kids
to to take care of them.
(09:19):
It can be really tragic, it canbankrupt families, you know to
have have to, to have to takecare of them.
I mean that's a lot of kids.
And then she asked, well,what's changed?
I mean what's changed?
I mean OK, so we talk about,well, correlation isn't
causation.
But it's like, ok, well thenlet's do an experiment and let's
(09:40):
just change the vaccineschedule.
And let's just change thevaccine schedule, let's ask for
volunteers to do a researchstudy and say, okay, all you
people that don't want tovaccinate your kids anyway,
let's just track them.
How many of them get autism.
They don't want to do thatstudy either because they know
what'll come out.
(10:01):
I think it's the same thing inanimals behavioral problems.
Look at the cancer rates.
What?
It's the same thing in animalsbehavioral problems.
Look at the cancer rates.
You know what.
What happened after the covidthing and and that covid jab.
You heard all about all theseturbo cancers and people and the
cancer rates going up.
What are we seeing in pets?
Never used to see.
I'm working with a patient now.
(10:22):
It's so sad.
This dog is three years old andhas really severe lymphoma.
I mean, like this dog's havingtrouble breathing.
It's a lymph node.
It's so big.
I mean it's severe.
I I don't know if the dog'sgonna make it.
I mean we're trying.
Three years old, I mean, andwhat's?
And what's changed?
(10:44):
This dog actually was not veryheavily vaccinated either.
This dog's a mystery, but issetting it off in this dog?
But we know that they're beenusing they're using more mRNA
technology and animal vaccines.
I see the ads.
You know you get these things,cause every veterinarian gets
them.
You know you get.
You know these advertisementsand they're saying using this
(11:06):
new mRNA technology and all thatsame technology, they're using
the COVID shot.
I think they're using the samestuff and it's causing the the
same problems the cancers, thebehavioral changes.
I think people have just gottenso used to seeing kind of
dumbed down dogs that they don'tknow what a normal, healthy,
(11:27):
alert dog that's not been overvaccinated, eating a raw diet,
really looks like.
Just like I think a lot ofpeople don't know what normal
kids like anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You know, it's pretty , pretty sad you know, I'm
always amazed at the dogs that Isee that are just not with it.
Right, like they don'tunderstand fully what you're
saying.
They're easily agitated oreasily distracted, right Like I,
(12:07):
like I know you guys, probablyI, I sound like my mom, who's
always bragged about us, and herfriends are probably like we
don't want to hear you bragabout your kids anymore.
Okay, I'm going to have to bragabout laws.
The dog can, can see my handsignals.
I can literally do to the rightand she will run right.
(12:28):
I can do it to the left andshe'll run left, because we, the
, where we walk, there's a bigbike path, so I'm looking across
the bike and I'll give her thisand she'll run this direction
and then I'll say sit, boom, shesits, and then I'll shoot her
over to this side, you know.
Or she'll leave her toy waybehind us and I'm like go get it
(12:50):
, and that's all I have to say,and she'll run back and get it,
you know.
And then I've seen other dogsthat are like I don't even get
you, like what is this?
That's moving your pie hole.
Your pie hole is sayingsomething, but I don't get it
Right and I'm like that seemsvery like a neurological problem
, right.
(13:10):
That seems like there'ssomething that's clouding their
mind, their eye, they're notmaking good contact, they're not
able to observe theirenvironment the way that dogs
are meant to observe theirenvironment, right?
So there seems to be somethingquite off and I just can't
believe that it's just badtraining, right?
(13:34):
Or bad food.
Yes, both of those are acontributing factor if you give
mixed signals, right.
But here's the thing Mostpeople are pretty consistent,
most pet parents are prettyconsistent in what they say to
their dogs and the way theytreat their dogs and the way
that they give commands.
So eventually that dog, youknow, is going to pick those up,
right, and that would beconsistent.
(13:57):
So I have to think that it'ssomething else.
And certainly you and I haveseen massive groups of dogs,
right, we've seen the ones thatare coming over from lots of
vaccines, lots of bad food Okay,let's take the training out of
it.
We see what that dog looks like, smells like, acts like, versus
(14:23):
the ones where people havealready had that and they say,
hey, I'm going to raise this dogdifferently.
There's a vast differencebetween those two dogs and we're
not making that up.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And I've had people tell me that they've seen their
dog change.
Same like when people, parents,say they give one of their kids
a vaccine and they're just notthe same afterwards.
That people say that and andand.
A lot of it's been after therabies vaccine.
The rabies vaccine definitelyhas neurologic effects, cause
(14:56):
they'll say you know, I justgave that one vaccine and dog
was just never the same.
Personality changed.
They're just sort of blank.
It's Like you said.
They're just sort of lights areon but nobody's home, you know,
and they're not the same.
The other thing I see reallyincrease is a phobias, you know,
dogs afraid.
Why should dogs be afraid ofthunderstorms?
(15:16):
It's a natural thing.
Why should they be afraid of ofnoises to the point that
they're, like you know, of ofnoises to the point that they're
, like you know, destroying thehouse because they're just so
terrified of noises?
Like that shouldn't be likethose types of phobias.
That is.
That's a neurologic disturbanceand I agree I don't think that
(15:37):
comes from the diet.
I think the diet helps.
They've actually shown that inautistic children, that when
autistic children get off thesugars, get off the gluten, get
on a healthy diet, especially aketogenic diet, because it's
good for the brain that theirautism symptoms get much better
and some kids can even, you know, get off the spectrum to where
(15:59):
they're developing normally.
So the diet can definitely help.
That's why it's important toeat the raw diet we preach about
every week.
But I think the vaccines reallyplay a role and not all dogs,
you know, get get past that,especially when you're giving so
(16:21):
many at at one time.
And the other thing is, youknow, for people that have a
lifestyle, they're going totravel, they're like I just I
gotta travel with my dog, Igotta get the rabies shot.
Well, if you're feeding a gooddiet, I mean, my opinion is, you
know, go places that your dogneeds a rabies shot.
(16:42):
But, um, if you're gonna do itand you're feeding a good diet,
your dog needs a rabies shot.
But if you're going to do itand you're feeding a good diet,
your dog's going to stand abetter chance of processing the
toxins and not not having theside effects.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
You know, I'm excited about this interview that
you're going to do, because thewoman that that is going to
interview you is an attorney,correct?
Mm-hmm?
Okay, the name of the show iswhat?
Financial?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Rebellion.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Financial Rebellion?
Yeah, and it's a part of theChildren's Defense Network,
mm-hmm.
Okay, so hopefully, when you'reon there, you able to ask what
is her name?
Carolyn, the lady that's gonna.
Okay, carolyn, who's gonnainterview you if, when a foia
(17:36):
request is made?
Okay, like what christine masseydoes, right, so she goes to all
of these CDC, the World HealthOrganization, the NIH.
She goes to all these differentorganizations and ask for the
information that would show thatsaid virus was the cause of
(18:00):
this outbreak or disease or thatthey've actually been able to
identify, right, these virusesTo which, to this day and
probably now, over 300 of theseFOIA requests have come back
without any evidence whatsoever.
So it would be very interestingif you remember to ask Carolyn
(18:22):
and they lie, if somebodyrequests a FOIA you know the
Freedom of Information Act if wecould get the information that
substantiates the claim.
Right?
Let's take rabies that rabiesexists and that we tested it,
that we know it exists, that weknow that this said vaccine
(18:48):
actually takes away the riskfrom said virus that we've never
found.
I mean, can they lie about that?
That would be an interestingquestion, because I can just
hear people.
Dr Jasek, well, that can't betrue.
They probably were just lyingabout it and didn't want to give
that information to ChristineMassey, and I'm like that
(19:11):
doesn't make any sense, becauseif they actually had something
that they had proved, don't youthink they'd be smashing that in
our sphincter all the time?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, you would think so.
If they had the actuallegitimate proof, it wouldn't
come into question.
The problem is they just saythat it exists.
They say here's a picture ofthe rabies virus, but they have
no definitive proof that what isin that picture.
(19:46):
They have pictures.
They say the rabies is a littlebullet shaped virus.
It's like little bullets.
It's never ever been proventhat what that is causes rabies
causes disease.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
And why has nobody?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
ever asked that.
Did you think a medicalprofessional would?
I mean I asked that we askedthat did you think of a medical
professional when I?
I mean I asked that we askedthat.
Why didn't anybody else askthat?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
well, what, what, what.
What answer do you get when youask that question?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
people just believe the narrative.
The narrative, they justbelieve you know, well, you know
, I I that that that it's beenthat the animals they say the
animals have been tested for itand been shown to have it.
But what tests?
How has it been?
(20:38):
Again, these tests are justlooking for these things.
And the thing about all thesetests, these little, pretty
microscopic pictures, once youtake something.
If I've learned anything or Igot anything really valuable, I
feel, from Dr Tom Collin is thiswhen you take anything out of
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the body and look at it, it'snot in its normal state ever.
And when you take something outof the body, you look into the
microscope, you're drying it,you're staining it.
That's not what it looks likein the body.
How do you know that theselittle things you're seeing
aren't artifacts?
But people believe the test.
They say well, the dog testedpositive for rabies.
(21:22):
Well, how do you know that testis valid?
Well, because the CDC says so.
You know, it's like, and it'sjust so ingrained in people's
minds.
Even people that are moreholistically oriented will still
believe the rabies narrative,even though it's it's never been
(21:44):
proven.
Louis Pasteur, who supposedlystarted the whole thing, he
identified, you know, quoteunquote mad dogs.
These were dogs that weresalivating, were aggressive,
were in ill health, they mightbite people, aggressive, were in
(22:06):
ill health, they might bitepeople.
And then he, he took the.
What he did was he took thesaliva from these dogs and he
injected it into rabbits brainsand the rabbits got neurologic
symptoms.
So he said, okay, the dogs musthave this virus.
And he called it rabies.
I don't even know where thatname came from, actually, but he
called it rabies and saidthat's what rabies is.
Well, you inject anything intoan animal's brain, it's going to
(22:27):
have neurologic symptomsbecause it's not supposed to be
sticking needles into it.
Come on.
It's like you can stick salineinto a rabbit's brain and you're
not supposed to be stickingneedles in there and they're
going to have symptoms.
So then he said, okay, well,the dogs are acting this way
(22:47):
because of the virus, but theynever investigated what else
could be.
A lot of the dogs were starved.
They were abused, they were.
They were starving, so theywere malnourished.
They're eating all kinds ofanything they could pick up so
they could get toxins, any sores, any kind of a sore in the
mouth that's going to cause themto salivate.
So they never looked at, theynever took any of these dogs and
said, okay, what if we feedthem a better diet, put them in
(23:09):
better health conditions, youknow, take care of them, give
them a loving home?
Do these symptoms go away?
No, they just destroyed them.
So it was all really made upwithout any proof and it's
persisted for years.
And I think the reason it'spersisted is because of the fear
.
There's a lot of fear generatedin the media.
(23:29):
You know, you've seen movieswith these rabid dog old yeller
got rabies, you know, and allthis stuff is they really played
up this narrative becausepeople can supposedly get rabies
is supposedly the one virusthat all mammals can get.
So people can get it from thebite of a dog and that's what
the veterinarians are playing.
(23:49):
I'm all like you come in herewith your dog, it's not
vaccinated while I'm putting mywhole staff at risk when I say
let them go get the damn shot,leave the dogs alone.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Right.
Well, I'm telling you, I'vesaid this to you guys before my
father, when he was a kid, therewas a rabid supposedly okay, he
didn't even get bitten, butsupposedly in his neighborhood
there was some sort of rabid dog.
They were all going crazy.
So what did he get Shots in thestomach, and you know what he
got from that Encephalitis.
(24:21):
His brain swelled.
And you know what he got fromthat, what they called, you know
, polio.
You know there was, and thatwas also the time of DDT.
So I mean so many things.
I'm like he never even got bitRight and yet they did this
(24:41):
crazy stuff.
To the point, his brain swelledso bad that he had to learn how
to speak over again.
I mean, it was a bad deal.
It was a bad deal.
What?
What happened to him with these, with these shots and um, so
again, the, theseunsubstantiated fears are so
(25:06):
easy to project onto the world.
Right, you and I have seen thisso many times oh, there's an
outbreak over here.
Well, really, let's see thetest right.
And if anybody could havefigured this out, well, it had
to be Fauci could have figuredthis out, dr Jasey, because he
(25:28):
was doing all types of horrible,terrible tests on animals, this
little Oompa Loompa, which Iheard him called the other day,
which I think is fantastical.
Oompa Loompa, um, you know this, this guy's really evil.
Has no problem seeing people orpets uh, suffer um I think he
(25:49):
must enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
How can you cause so much suffering and you don't
have this evil at your core thatenjoys watching it?
Because it's not natural.
Nobody could harm so manypeople.
He orchestrated the wholesupposed AIDS outbreak, where
the truth of the matter was thatthe people were actually being
(26:13):
poisoned by the drug.
I'm blanking on it.
What's?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
that AZ-T.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, the AZ-T drug that they used for to supposedly
treat AIDS, which was what wasultimately killing the patients,
and the initial symptoms werewhat people say.
That don't believe.
The whole AIDS narrative wasbecause of the lifestyle,
(26:40):
because it was primarily in gaymen and they didn't have a
particularly healthy lifestyleI'm partying a lot and a lot of
drugs and alcohol and all thisstuff so they would be not the
healthiest people to begin with.
So they kind of picked on thatpopulation and started they
named this thing called AIDS andthen they started injecting the
(27:02):
drugs.
And it was the drugs thatreally made them sick, the AZT
not.
That created the AIDS, becausethere's the virus, the supposed,
you know, humanimmunodeficiency virus.
Hiv AIDS was the autoimmunedeficiency syndrome.
That was the whole syndromewhere they just got all these
chronic diseases and just wentto hell.
(27:23):
That was caused by thetreatment, not by some virus.
It's just so easy to blameanything, not about polio.
Polio, like you were saying,because your dad it's linked to
DDT came about during the timeof DDT.
And then they come out with thevaccine, quit using DDT.
Oh, the vaccine has saved theworld where really it was the
(27:44):
toxicity from the, you know,from the pesticide all along.
We've really been really beenlied to.
You really got to just sit backand say can I believe anything?
I've been told.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Well, I don't know what I'm supposed to do, Dr
Jasek, if I don't believeanything.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
How do I go on?
Trust your gut, do what'snatural.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
But my gut, but here, this is the only problem I have
with trusting the gut.
Okay, here's one of my issueswith that.
Okay, here's one of my issueswith that.
Your gut, okay, typically picksup on what you believe, right?
(28:32):
So let's say this that if youare a huge proponent of vaccines
which is good, you know, youthink that they are the best
things that slice bread.
I find it hard to believe thereare folks that think like that,
but I do know that there are,because we saw a bunch of them
during the covet.
Um, love them, I want everyvaccine.
Because I think I don't, Idon't in, I don't believe and I
(28:55):
don't see that these peoplesigned up for fetal bovine
kidney cell, formaldehyde,mercury, thermosyl, you know,
bromine.
They don't really realize allthose things that are going into
their body, right?
They don't say, hey, inject mewith all of that stuff that
looks like you know the stuffunder the kitchen sink.
(29:16):
They don't really get that.
What they think is I'm gettingsome sort of great um protection
against the boogeyman that'sfloating, you know, up my
nostrils.
Okay, this is, this is whatthey're thinking um.
And now I've lost my train ofthought.
(29:36):
Uh, that I was going trustingyour gut, okay thank you very
much.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Your problem with trusting your gut, because I'm
anxious to hear this Grab itback, come back.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
So if you really believe that, right or wrong,
true or false, the trusting yourgut, to me seems that it could
lead you down the wrong pathbecause it's bouncing off what
you truly believe.
So if you really truly believethat something is going to
(30:10):
protect you and you've heardshows like this one say, I don't
know now, bunch of toxins inthere, I don't know now, bunch
of toxins in there.
And they're sitting in front oftheir pharmacist and the
pharmacist says would you likethe shingles and the COVID and
the?
Speaker 2 (30:29):
RSV.
Would you like all those?
Just like pneumonia yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I'll just give them to y'all in one arm and they're
like I'm going with my gut.
My gut says, yeah, I need to beprotected.
Why?
Because I have a belief in that.
So I don't know, if you have arebuttal, tell me.
But sometimes I'm like can Ireally trust my gut?
Because could it be that mybeliefs that I've picked up and
(30:55):
I've just decided it's true,haven't really investigated if
that belief is based on anything?
I just decided to believe it?
Could it really influence mygut?
And then my gut takes me downthe wrong damn road.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I, I suppose it's true.
I I think, if I've heard a lotof people tell me about their
pets, though, that you know like, yeah, I just knew I shouldn't
have done that shot, like theyknew.
But they were told by the, thevet, that they needed that to be
(31:31):
protected.
So in their head that soundedgood, but their gut was telling
them, yeah, maybe that's not,maybe that's not, maybe that's
not the best thing.
So maybe, if you're, maybe youcould be more in your head and
really listening to what yourgut's telling you.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Well, yeah, I like it .
I like it what you're sayingthere.
And then you have to takeanother step backwards and say
why is it that we trust otherpeople more than ourselves?
Is it because we've mademistakes and we're like, ah,
(32:12):
that feels like, that feels likehell, it feels like torture
when I make a mistake and I havea regret that I made this
mistake?
Therefore, I don't really trustmyself.
I don't know if I can reallymake an educated decision.
Maybe you can make an educateddecision better than me.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I think part of it too is where do you see?
Think part of it too is wheredo you see health coming from?
Like is to me believing thatyou need vaccines to stay
healthy.
You're giving your power away.
If you believe, like I do, thatyour power to heal is within
(32:58):
you, then you you shouldn't needlike those external things.
You need to activate that, thatpower within.
So I guess I would be askingwhere did that belief come from?
Where were you fed thatinformation?
From your doctor, from themedia, like, where did that,
(33:20):
where did that information comefrom?
And then, is that belief reallytrue for you or what you know
was it?
Was it propaganda?
Because I I think people dobelieve things they they hear in
in the media of course that'swhy we have it.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
But where?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
but I think you have to ask that question where is
that coming?
I mean, why do you believe whatyou believe?
Because you know, becauseyou're, I mean, I start to ask
you know clients that sometimeslike well, why, why do you
believe that?
Why do you think you know?
Why do you think your dog hasLyme disease?
Well, because it testedpositive.
(34:02):
How do we know we can believethe test?
The test is an antibody test.
It could just mean exposure.
Well, it's because it's gotthese symptoms.
Well, could those symptoms befrom anything else?
Because what happens is youknow, there, once you have a
believe, believe your dog hasLyme disease and all the
symptoms are, like, attributedto it.
(34:23):
So maybe it's not like I gotthe answers here, but maybe we
need to examine where ourbeliefs come from.
Why do we believe what webelieve?
And maybe that would be part ofthat answer answer?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, well, I told you that.
You know in the hospital whatthey say to cancer patients
can't eat raw veggies, can't eatraw food, got to be cooked to
death.
Cook all the goodness out of it, cook it, because that's
healthier for you.
And my question was what are weafraid of?
(34:57):
What are we afraid of?
Oh, salmonella, e coli andlisteria.
Okay, and we have proof thatthis has caused irreparable
damage to patients.
Not the chemo, not the radiation, not the antibiotic.
It's the bacteria on the food.
Seriously, I mean there is noanswer for that and that, but I
(35:24):
will say that I see this in theraw diet all the time.
Right, dog eats a raw diet.
Dog has loose stools, you know,maybe throws up, and it's
automatically some type ofbacteria.
Okay, that's one.
And you can never change petparents' minds.
(35:45):
They got that.
I mean that fear is soingrained that it's like I would
rather feed my dog boiledchicken and rice that has no
nutritional value in itwhatsoever when it's not unwell
or when it's not feeling good.
Or I would rather stuff thatdown their throat than just
(36:06):
letting them fast for a coupleof days.
It is just, it's got to bebacteria, or I have tracked this
, dr Jacek, not like you know tothe T, but I see it over and
over and over again, and thisone is really funny when the
(36:28):
plants run out of labels or theyrun out of the sleeves that the
food goes in and it just comesout in a pure white casing with
the label on it, we invariablyget calls my dog won't eat this.
(36:54):
You've changed the recipe.
You've changed something.
You change.
My dog won't eat it.
Because I'm like it's notdifferent, it is the exact same
food.
Now, I can't tell you whetherthat's the pet parent having
(37:14):
that fear and that thought andthat transfers over to the dog
or not, but I can tell you thatthere is nothing different about
the recipe.
Now, when I say that you're notgoing to get the same cow you
had the last time, becausethere's only so much cow to go
(37:35):
around, because once the cow'sgone, the cow's gone.
We got a new cow coming in.
Okay, it's sort of like if, if,if you and I, dr jasic, were the
you know being ground up and,um, like soylent green, right
the show, we're being ground up.
You eat a, a, really, you knowyou eat like a very different
(37:56):
than I do.
And, uh, you, you don't do anygluten.
I eat gluten because I neverchecked to see if there is
gluten.
So I'm sure there is gluten.
Maybe you don't eat dairy.
You know there's differentthings.
Now can I say that typicallythe animals are fed the same
thing it could be, but seasonschange, you guys, and if they
(38:17):
can't eat grass because there'ssnow covered, we can't let them
starve to death.
They're going to eat somethingdifferent.
Okay Now, if that cow is in theTexas region versus a cow
that's in the Pennsylvaniaregion, maybe there's going to
be a little difference there.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
They're eating different grasses, whatever you
know, and then different thingsgrow in the pasture depending on
the year and on the waterfalland the region, so they're going
to taste different depending onwhat they're eating right, but
I will tell you that it's.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
It's a weird phenomena that I see people will
call me saying my dog won't eatthis.
So we're like, give them onewith the label on it.
Give them one, try to find, youknow, and don't show them the
package, because maybe theythink that it's different.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
And if you show the dog the package, maybe they're
like, hey, that's different.
I'm just wondering Is momtrying to pull something over?
I'm thinking it's time for mybeef rotation and maybe she's
trying to feed me chicken orsomething, because the
packaging's changed, so maybethey just shouldn't be showing
it to their dogs.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
People say that I'm really facetious, but I'm
serious, I totally believe you,I can just totally see that
people and you know, what youknow what I think back to
beliefs.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I think the way to know a false belief is if the
belief is based in fear.
If you're afraid, because Ithink, if you're afraid of
something, if you're doingsomething because you, because
you're afraid of something,you're afraid of getting a
disease, or you're afraid, thenI think that's that could be a
(40:04):
sign of a false belief.
You're afraid, you know thefood's bad or whatever.
They put that fear energy intothe dog's bowl and the dog feels
it.
Or they put it down for 10seconds the dog can think see,
dog didn't eat it.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
You know that I eat raw meat, right, you know I eat
raw hamburger meat.
Yeah, okay, I love it.
But I will say this Sometimes,you know, it's like this tastes
a little off, tastes a littleoff to me.
So I give it to Lazi and she'slike this is damn good.
Yeah, she's like this is damngood.
Yeah, she's like give me allyour stuff.
And there was some.
(40:41):
What was pork?
You know it was cooked.
Obviously I don't eat raw pork,but it was a pre-cooked some
pork.
And you know, a lot of timesI'll do like a three-day fast.
I forget to put my stuff in,like the freezer so it goes.
(41:01):
You know, know, doesn't smellso good and I I give all the
stuff that doesn't smell good tome.
My food, uh, in Lassie's food,right, I mean, she eats, as you
guys might suspect, every singletype of food that we have.
She eats, right, it's a bigrotation.
Um, and it's so funny becausemost pet parents are like, ooh,
(41:24):
that probably would make my dogsick.
It's a little off to me.
I'm like it won't, it won't.
I just don't get.
I don't get how this bacteriafear is.
You got to test it out, jacek?
I mean you really?
(41:44):
I mean, I guess maybe that'swhy you and I and neely and all
of us that do the, the rawfeeding, um just don't worry
about it and therefore thatvibration of fear or worry
doesn't get transferred onto thedogs because we have no fear of
it I think that's a big part ofit.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I really do, because what I mean?
What other explanation couldthere be?
It's not bad, and even thatfood that smells a little bad to
you might not even hurt you.
If you didn't believe, youweren't afraid that it was gonna
be bad for you.
It might taste a little funky,but that's just what happens.
(42:23):
It's like fruit, you know, like.
How do you know that fruit isripe?
But you kind of smell it, youknow.
I mean, ripening is really justa part of the rotting process.
You just eat it before it rots,right, but it changes texture,
changes the smell and all thosesugars that are created.
(42:45):
It's because it's breaking downthe fruit, the fruit's breaking
down.
You let it go too long and itgets a little mushy and a little
funky and doesn't.
It's not as appealing, but itdoesn't mean it's bad, it's just
part of it's just going away.
Just like us, we're going to goaway someday too.
We'll probably smell pretty badtoo someday when we're going
(43:07):
away.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
That's called old people smell.
You know, I was asking my momabout Easter.
She went over to my brother'sand I asked if my nephew showed
up and she said no, he didn'tcome because his little boy had
some sort of a virus, you know,vomiting and throwing up, and so
(43:35):
we didn't want him to come andinfect everybody else.
Okay, and I was like, okay, youknow, I mean, I guess it's it,
it goes back to that, right, soevery everybody looks at that as
something that gets passedaround.
(43:56):
But I'm like, if, if, I, Iguess I'd want to test that out.
Right, just have somebody come.
Right, everybody is in thisenvironment, okay, and you bring
somebody that was in anotherenvironment, that was supposedly
, you know, sick with something,and put them in this
(44:18):
environment.
Does everybody get sick, right?
Or is it that everybody getssick because they're eating the
same thing, they're drinking thesame thing?
You see what I'm saying?
I just it's so hard to makethat kind of make that
distinction and yet we cannotget the FOIA request back to
(44:41):
that.
That shows that these virusesare actually existing, right,
that these viruses are actuallyexisting, right.
So, supposedly, supposedly,something was going around in
Oklahoma, right, it's one of myparents.
We got this thing going around.
You know, all my kids aregetting sick, they're getting
diarrhea, they're getting thisand that Kids at the daycare are
(45:02):
getting hand-to-mouth disease,and so you're just like nobody
will stop and really look atthat and say what is happening.
So, like these, these kids arein this daycare.
Okay, like these little kids inthe daycare, they're together,
eating on the same toys, lickingon the same floors, you know,
doing what kids do, but none ofthe parents, none of the parents
(45:27):
.
I'm like, well, if it's a virus, how is it that none of the
parents are experiencing thesame thing?
It couldn't be a contact thing.
Could it be a cleaning solution?
Could it be?
What could it be?
Could it be something different?
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Something toxic.
And then I mean, like you know,they feed them snacks there or
something.
You know, maybe there's acommon snack, something that
they ate.
You know, red dye, number 40 orsomething you know made them
all sick.
I mean, who knows?
I think it could be, I think itcould be a lot of different
things.
How about, you know, do they gooutside and play?
Are there pesticides?
(46:07):
Are they spraying weeds outthere?
Are they spraying the weeds outthere?
You know they do that inplaygrounds.
You know, did they all get agood dose of glyphosate out
there, maybe Playing?
They're running, playing, getit on their hands, and then they
don't wash their hands and theycome in and eat.
And you know, I mean there canbe all sorts of reasons for it.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
But if it's a virus, wouldn't you think that the
parents would get it?
And here's how we justify that,or we reason it away.
We say, well, the immune system, the immune system is different
.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
The adults have a stronger immune system.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
You're just like, do they?
How are we testing that?
How are we um knowing thatbeyond just the belief?
Speaker 2 (46:54):
it's and that it's.
It's a popular popularnarrative, and then once enough
people believe something andit's said enough times, it
becomes true, whether it is ornot yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
So anyway, it's just it's.
It's so interesting because I'dlike to know the truth.
I I would like to see thetesting done.
I would like to know the truth.
The problem is dr jaycee, who'sgonna do it?
Who is going to?
Speaker 2 (47:21):
really.
That's why this is the raw dogfood truth podcast.
That is right.
That's why we do this right andwe yak and we toss this stuff
around because we want the truth, because I don't know.
I think I'm learning more andmore what's not true, but
(47:44):
finding out what is really trueis harder.
I think it's safe to say thatmost of what we've been taught
in medicine and about health andin the conventional side has
not been true.
There's been ulterior motivesand we know that what's been
taught in nutrition for pets andpeople is not true.
(48:04):
Well, I think we know what'strue in the diet for dogs and
cats.
I, you know, feel like I knowwhat's the best diet to feed a
dog or a cat for, pretty, prettydang sure.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
And back to Belize.
You can talk to your blue inthe face I can talk to.
I'm green in the face, right.
And if somebody believes thatthey must have buttloads of
synthetics in their dog's food,they're going to do it, because
I see that all the time too.
(48:34):
If they believe that kibble hasmassive amounts of nutrients in
it and that it cleans theirdog's teeth because the breeder
or a vet gave him a prescriptiondiet, there is nothing that you
and I are going to be able todo, but the one thing that a pet
parent can do to see it forthemselves is to try it.
(48:59):
Do the raw diet for two weeks,and I don't mean throw them a
steak.
Let someone like us help youpick it out, feed it to your
dogs.
It's got the right amount ofbone, organs and fat and meat in
it.
Okay, give it a good solid twoweeks and let's just see what
(49:26):
you think.
Don't take our word for it let'sjust see what you think,
because I just bet you, I wouldjust bet the old sphincter okay,
that your dog is going to love.
It is going to feel better,look better, better, smell
(49:47):
better, better poops, better gutdigestive issues, better skin
issues, if you will give it atry.
You don't have to believe me,you don't have to believe Dr
Jacek, but just see what youreyes say.
But you can't do it half-assed.
Okay, you go.
Okay, well, I'm on my, I'mgonna cheat just a little, just
(50:09):
gonna cheat a little bit.
Okay, I can't, I just can't,can't go all the way because
they're afraid.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Well, the deal is all the fear, the deal, the fear,
yeah, and the deal is off.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
right, the deal is off if, if you gotta cheat,
there ain't cheating, there'llbe a cheater.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Because even a little bit of poison is still poison.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Come on, dr Jason, that's no fun.
Hey, do you think that RobertKennedy is going to be
successful in making someheadway?
What do you think?
Do you think they're going toactually let him?
I don't know, I mean that's thequestion.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Are they going to let him?
Do you think they're going toactually let him?
I don't know.
I mean, that's the question Arethey going to let him?
I mean, I think he's very wellintentioned in getting you know.
He says he wants to get theevidence, but are they going to
let him have the information?
Is the evidence going to bepresented truthfully, and all of
the evidence, or are we goingto get part of the story and
(51:08):
they're going to say, well, okay, we can see these correlations,
but it doesn't prove anything?
I was listening to a podcast, astory this was actually on chd
where a woman was beinginterviewed who whose children
had one of her sons had startedto act, show some signs of
autism after a vaccine, and thedoctor told her that some
(51:32):
children are just predisposedand sooner or later they're
predisposed to autism.
Sooner or later something'sgoing to cause it to come out,
and if it wasn't the vaccine, itwould have been some other
illness or something else thathappened, but sooner or later it
would have come out becausehe's just going to get it.
That's, you know, that's whatthey're told.
(51:52):
So I know, are they going topresent truthful information?
Are they going to allow all theinformation to come out?
I don't know.
That's the question.
I think the information isunquestionably there, that the
link between autism and vaccines.
It's just if they let it outand how they let it out.
(52:12):
And what other counternarrative do they present?
Or we go to war with China andthen everybody gets distracted,
or something else.
They do that too right, so thatinterview.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
And everybody gets distracted with something else.
I don't, they do that too,right, right, all right, so that
interview.
You guys.
Do you have to be a member ofChildren's Health Defense
website in order to hear thatinterview that you'll be doing?
Will it be live on Thursday?
And then it will go into anarchive where people can also
hear it?
Yep, I'll send you the link andyou can post it.
Okay, great, now listen youguys.
April is almost over and DrJacek is still.
(52:52):
You can still get her Aprilwellness checkups, okay, and
this is the time that you wantto get a checkup.
This is not your standard.
Hey, we're doing a checkup andhere's your flea and take your
heartworm and your rabies, okay,so what you will get with dr
jacek is a healthier alternativeto all of these actual wellness
(53:14):
, not creating sickness exam.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Actual, keep getting, you should well you should have
.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Maybe you should have been really sarcastic.
I think you should have namedthis a really sarcastic like
program.
Like you said, no BS checkup orI don't know.
We we, you and I should havethought about this, dr Jason.
We should have said you know,this is, this is not up, your
(53:42):
sphincter wellness checkup.
This is like you know we shouldhave.
We should have come up with areally snarky name for it, okay,
well, we'll work on that fornext time.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Okay, your next promotion you call me because
you know I'm all for thesnarkiness If anybody could come
up with a snarky title.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
it would be you.
Well, listen, you've got to getthese appointments scheduled by
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Okay, so through the month ofApril on these.
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And you can schedule them like into May, but you got
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How about that?
Who is out there offering thatkind of program?
I don't know anyone.
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(54:46):
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