March 5, 2025 • 50 mins
Are you ready to challenge everything you thought you knew about your dog's diet? In this captivating episode, we delve into the surprising world of canine nutrition, guided by DeDe Murcer Moffett and the insights from Dr. Judy Jasek, DVM. We explore the compelling reasons to reconsider processed kibble as a dietary staple for dogs and examine the benefits of transitioning to a raw food diet.
Get prepared for a mind-opening discussion that tackles misbeliefs surrounding kibble, pointing out its numerous fillers and potential health risks. With a strong emphasis on common sense and nutrition, the episode highlights how real food can be the cornerstone of a dog's health and longevity. We consider nutrient density, the body’s detox processes, and how raw feeding can lead to better digestive health in our furry friends. Don't let your dog fall victim to poor diet choices; tune in to find out how real food can enhance their vitality!
Essentially, this episode serves as a passionate call to action for pet parents everywhere. Learn to trust your instincts, educate yourself on pet nutrition, and make empowered decisions that favor fresh, unprocessed food for your canine companions. As we navigate this vital topic, we invite you to engage with us, share your thoughts, and connect over the journey toward a healthier lifestyle for our pets. Join us for this transformative conversation—your dog will thank you!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh snaps.
Well, hello Relfeaters.
I'm Deedee Merson-Moffitt, ceoof a raw dog feeding company.
We're Pets, health is ourbusiness and we're friends, like
my friend, dr Judy Jasik, howdo I get you on the video
pointing to the?
There she is right there.
She doesn't let friends feedkibble.
Good morning, dr Jasik.
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Good morning, Good, good, here can I?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm going to unblur my screens.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Everybody can see me out in my camper.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Dr Jasek, we know what's happening.
We know what's happening.
You are afraid of the bird fluand you've put yourself in a
bubble.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I can see it right now.
I'm the bubble vet.
I'm the bubble vet.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You're ever loving bird flu mind.
What are you doing out?
There by the way you're everloving bird flu mind.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
What are you doing out there, by the way?
Oh, we got our house.
Our house is being painted and,um, so there's noise, there's
sanding, it's stinky and there'sguys running around all over
the place.
Today they were painting, likethe outside doors, like along
our deck.
So in my bedroom, I mean, whenI was getting dressed I locked
myself in the bathroom andpulled the shade down so I knew
they weren't going to come inthere.
(01:06):
But then I'm out in my bedroom,you know, and then they're
outside, you know, looking inthe window.
I mean, they were intentionallylooking, they're just they're
painting, cause we've got a doorfrom our bedroom that goes out
onto our deck and all that.
So out here I can just be in mybubble and, and you know it's,
um, it's okay.
(01:27):
I have a lot of fond memories.
We've done a lot of really funcamping trips in this camper.
So you know it's, it's okay.
It's not the most comfortableoffice seating, but you know
it's, it's okay yeah, it's cool,it's.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
That's very smart to take yourself out of the area
that is got a lot of toxinsgoing on in there, right?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
oh yeah, paint beams, everything like that, that's
awesome, just it's just thechaos, just the constant yeah
chris can deal with it, myhusband, he can.
He can just focus on what he'sdoing and block out all sorts of
things, even me.
So well, he's a man, he's a manand that's what men do.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
They just are like, you know, because if they were
going into battle, they got tobe focused on what their mission
is right singular focus, butjust us women, you know, we got
like 9 000 things going aroundall at once, right, right, we,
we do, we do.
Here comes my coffee, coming infrom out of the show.
Thank you, babe, Thanks Hi.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Rick, we're actually on recording.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Thank you, babe.
I like that when the coffeegods disappear, right.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That is awesome.
How is it getting better thanthat?
Huh.
Right, hey you know what needsto get better, dr Jasek, what
needs to get better dr?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
jasic.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
What needs to get better common sense as mark
didn't mark twain say commonsense ain't so common anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
All the way back then all the way back, then he said
that we were losing common senseall the way back then okay, I
just you know, okay, folks does.
Okay, if you, dr Jasek, let'sjust talk about this for a
second.
If you're sick and unwell, inwhatever way you want to say,
(03:16):
what would you say as a medicalprofessional, maybe even just as
a normal human being that hascommon sense?
Processed food's going to makeyou healthier, heal faster, or
is real food going to be theoptimal choice?
(03:37):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, my common sense would tell me that real food
would make me feel better,because that's what our body is
meant to eat.
However, that doesn't seem tobe the mainstream way of
thinking.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Okay when dogs are eating raw.
There's a common thought forsome dogs that stop eating raw
or or they'll have whateverissue they're going to have in
in the digestive area.
(04:13):
And and people will say my dogscan't digest raw.
And I'm befuddled, verybefuddled, by that comment, Dr
Jasek.
Why would raw, real food not beable to be digested better than
(04:35):
chemicals, cakes and cookies?
Right Got me.
I thought you were going togive us a really great answer
there.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I don't know answer there.
Don't know, I don't know Idon't know.
I don't know it doesn't make it.
It doesn't, it doesn't make anysense, and I hear this all the
time too.
People will pick apart, likewhat's in the raw food, like
ground bone or the organs, orthere's too much copper, because
(05:03):
it's copper storage disease,that like.
When I was in vet school theysaid that like you might see one
of these in your whole career,maybe two now it's like very
commonly diagnosed.
So then everybody's likeanything with any copper in it.
You know it's got to be bad.
So we can't feed organs and wecan't feed this.
Why doesn't anybody ever pickapart the 60 ingredients in a
(05:26):
typical bag of kibble?
they don't go down that list.
What is beet pulp or chickenmeal or chicken liver flavor?
Nobody ever scrutinized.
They don't even know what thoseare.
At least these are realingredients.
Okay, I know what bone is, Iknow what what liver is, I know
what heart is, I know what meatis.
But you can't go down that list.
(05:50):
Nobody knows.
I don't even know what most ofthat stuff even means.
They don't want us to know.
And then you get this wholelist of chemicals that they call
vitamins and minerals, butnobody ever scrutinizes where
that comes from.
But nobody ever scrutinizeswhere that comes from.
Why is that?
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Because there's this school of thought that that's
safe Raw food is dangerous andthat is why the cooked foods for
dogs are very popular and voidof nutrition, high in the carbs,
high in the fillers.
But it satisfies the petparents.
(06:35):
Now here's another factor.
When we hear that a dog hasdigestive issues, pretty much
most of those dogs have beenvaccinated up the wazoo, lots of
toxins that have been put intotheir bodies, all in the name of
(06:58):
safety.
Got to make sure the dog issafe from rabid squirrels,
raccoons, bats don't forget thelepto in the squirrel pee oh,
yes, that too because dogs drink, drink, squirrel pee all the
time.
Well, you know, when they'rethirsty, come on, it's just a,
(07:19):
you know.
But I'm just, I, just, um, andand we're very condescending
today and I, I on on purpose,because I just don't get it.
Guys, what we, we need to snapout of it.
We got to snap out.
Where's the common sense?
I'm not feeling well.
Therefore, give me, give me,give me some toxins, dr Jaycee.
(07:40):
Let me have some toxins.
And and let me have some, um,fried food, some very processed
food.
I don't have a clue what's init.
We call that comfort food mostof the time, right, um and uh,
let me see if I feel better.
I, I, I don't know, I, I can't,I can't.
(08:04):
After this many years of doingraw, doing the podcast,
consulting with folks, I justhave to say, okay, go.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
And and you know the reason I think we get
condescending it's because wejust want to help the pets.
But we can't help the petsunless we get through to the
humans.
And the humans just don't seethis.
And this isn't just opinion.
We've seen so many pets turnaround eating fresh food that we
know it's healthier for them.
(08:35):
I know it's healthier for them.
The ones that appear to haveissues with it, you know, maybe
get some diarrhea or something.
It's because their bodies havebeen so compromised by all the
other crap that has been putinto them over the years and
that doesn't just go away.
And people are.
(08:55):
The conventional medicine hastrained people to think well, I
just want that magic fix becausethere's drugs that'll make
symptoms go away, but all thosethat's suppressing the symptoms
just drives the illness deeper.
We need to look at what is thebody telling us.
So there's diarrhea.
What is diarrhea?
Diarrhea, in most cases isdetox.
Body's trying to kick somethingout that it doesn't want.
(09:17):
And in the case of raw food,it's not that the raw food is
the problem, it's that thebody's trying to get rid of all
the other toxins that have beenput into it for years and years,
and years.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You know it is a tough conversation, even a
tougher concept to think, oh, mydog has loose poops, they're
sick.
Okay.
Now I contend that, as you andI know, that's that if you have
been feeding a blend with boneand all of a sudden you decide
(09:51):
you're going to feed a blendwith no bone, yeah, you're
probably going to see some loosepoops.
If you're feeding raw and youdo like what I did, and you give
your pup a handful of hearts,you know, and, and then they
have loose poops.
You're like, and I'm talkingabout really loose.
I'm like what did I just do?
You know, let me step back andthink what did I do?
(10:11):
What's been going on?
Ah, I gave a handful of hearts.
What was I thinking?
One heart would have beenenough.
I'm talking about a turkeyheart for Lazi.
But I'm just like I don't havethat knee jerk reaction to take
my dog to the vet.
I just don't.
That's not something I do.
So I think that's sort of alifestyle in a belief system and
(10:35):
a experience right To saywhether I'm going to look at my
dog as sick.
I don't ever see going to lookat my dog as sick.
I don't ever see, even at thetime that she goes outside and
wants to eat some grass or hasloose poops or occasionally,
once in a blue moon, is going todo the herpes.
(10:56):
I'm like she's not sick.
This is the body's naturalthing that it does.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Let it do it.
Well, you know what, if I haveloose poops, I don't go running
off to the doctor.
I say what did I eat differentthe last couple of days?
Did I eat something?
That's the very first thing andthat's what most people I know
think.
Oh, maybe it's that Mexicanfood I had last night.
Yeah, that's it, the extraspicy with all the jalapenosenos
(11:23):
.
That's probably why I got loosepoops today.
You know, we think about thatas humans, but with the dogs
it's like, oh my gosh, betterrun off to the vet and get drugs
and put them on antibiotics orput them on something some
pharmaceutical, because that'sthe way veterinarians are
programmed.
I actually remember this wasyears ago I remember sitting at
(11:46):
a conference and I was in like apractice management lecture and
they said your clients expectto walk out of your office with
a bottle of pills and if youdon't give them a bottle of
pills, they're not going to behappy and they'll go someplace
else because they want thatbottle of pills.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
That's how vets are taught to run their businesses
that's exactly what what umamanda, our daughter, has said.
When I have said why, why do itwhat?
Why, why are we giving thoseantibiotics?
Because people want something?
Yeah, right, exactly.
So I had this tooth done, drjason, where I had it yanked out
of my head right, didn't didn'twant it yanked out of my head
(12:25):
Right, didn't want it yanked out.
But they were like, yeah, youdon't have a choice.
Yeah, you always have a choice.
You could hold on to it andhave pain.
But they were like it's crackedall the way down.
You got extras.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You got lots of spares, so just one.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, there's a big hole still.
And there's a big hole still.
Okay, they gave me antibiotics,hydrocodone.
Did I take any of it?
Absolutely not.
Took none of it.
And they would say, oh, you'vegot to take the antibiotics in
(13:01):
case it gets infected.
And I'm like, well, if it getsinfected, then I'll take the
antibiotics, but I'm going gonnalet the body do its job, right.
And and even when I've had someother little minor surgeries,
they say, now listen, guys,don't you know you got to make
your own decision.
They're like did he tell me notto give my dog antibiotic and
(13:22):
she't she die?
I'm not giving you medicaladvice.
I'm telling you a story of mylife, of me, of what I do,
because this is the lifestylethat I choose.
Right, because why?
I'm not afraid of bacteria, notafraid of I can give medical
(13:43):
advice.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Okay, there it is.
Because I got this, I can put Igot this little certificate
that I got that I paid a wholelot of money for many, many
years ago.
This is, I can give medicaladvice there you go and there's
no benefit to the prophylacticuse of antibiotics.
What is prophylactic means?
It means just in case, oh doesit, I thought it meant through
(14:07):
the mouth.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
What does prophylactic mean actually?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
just in case you, just as a preventative, like
prophylactic means.
So if you're if you're doingprophylaxis, you're doing
preventative.
So you know, dog gets bit byanother dog and they go in right
away and get everything cleanedup.
Well, just in case this getsinfected, let's give antibiotics
(14:33):
.
That's called prophylactic useof of anything.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Wow, I learned something new today, see yeah,
that's.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
That's why I need you , that's why the world needs.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Dr Jacey, thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I told you, we go to medical school to learn the big
words.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yes, you do, and then we sound smart.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You don't have to be smart, you just have to be able
to say the big words andeverybody thinks you're smart.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well, I disagree.
You have to be smart.
Now some people may shut thedogs as well, but let's just say
this Dr Jasek, I don't do theprophylactics thing, just in
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case I decide I'm not going totake it unless I have a problem.
Can I get on top of thatproblem with antibiotics in the
event that I do have a problem?
Can I get on top of thatproblem with antibiotics in the
event?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
that I do have a problem.
Well, if you believe that thebody can heal, I mean, why give
the body something that itdoesn't need?
That's going to further harm?
I mean, that's the other partof this is is that prophylaxis
benign or is there potentialharm to come of it?
(15:48):
In the case of a tooth removallike in animals most of the time
teeth that need to come outthey are infected or there's
bacteria there, because thetooth has broken down and the
ligaments between the root andthe bone have broken down, so
the tooth's loose, so there is abunch of bacteria growing in
(16:11):
there.
But the reason that's happeningis because that tooth is
diseased.
And if you remove the tooth,you're removing the problem and
then the body can come up and orcome in and clean up the rest,
because the body knows how to dothat.
If you do the antibiotics justin case, well, first of all
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you're hammering the gut, soyou're actually impeding the
body's ability to get in thereand clean up any unwanted
bacteria or clean up this toothremoval site with the
antibiotics.
So you're actually doing moreharm than good.
In the interest of forsupposedly preventing a problem.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
you actually could be creating more problem which is
exactly what they said when theytook this tooth out.
They're like, oh, there's somebacteria in there, we're going
to clean it out, okay you cleanit out and do your job, whatever
that is.
And they packed it right Becausethey're like well, you have to
have an implant.
Nothing you can do about that.
(17:18):
If you decide to have animplant or you just leave a hole
in your face, I don't know, butthere's still an opening there.
Am I worried about it?
I am not.
And yet they have said thehuman mouth is the dirtiest
thing.
There's so much bacteria inthere.
I'm like, well, okay, obviouslyit knows what it's doing and
(17:39):
I'm not taking one antibioticbecause I, like you, believe
that that's how the body heals.
They took it out.
If it was cracked and there wasa hole that went all the way
straight down, there was maybesomething that was festering.
Who knows, whatever, it's stilla little sore, but do I worry
about it?
No, you know what I do.
(18:00):
I gargle with sea salt fromDran, the seawater, the ibiza
seawater.
I love it.
Actually, this is kind of gross, but what I do is I squish it
around in my mouth and then Ijust swallow it, because that's
what you're supposed to do withthat seawater is.
Take a little bit of it everyday and they say it's like blood
plasma.
(18:21):
Right, it's, it's.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's amazing I've heard that that seawater is the
same as, like the natural fluidin our body yeah, yeah, now you
don't want to take a ton of it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You're probably going to be, you know, have a little
loose stool and then you'regoing to go get something for
that loose stool.
No, you're more into right.
So that's, that's the againthere.
There is nothing that I'm goingto be able to say to a pet
parent that's going to convinceyou any differently.
If you call, just tell us whatyou want us to say and we'll say
(18:52):
it.
I don't think I'm going to beable to convince you that real
food, ie raw, is healthier foryour dog than any kind of
prescription, or kibble orcooked.
I'm not going to be able to dothat.
That comes from my belief, myresearch and my 25 years
(19:15):
experience.
I also do not know what elseyou're putting into your dog,
whether you think that thevaccines and the preventatives
and the prophylactics are safe,or whether you think that the
vaccines and the preventativesand the prophylactics are safe,
or whether you think thatthey're they're good, they they
have a repercussion on the body.
I'm not going to be able to totalk you out of that.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So even if you feel like you have to do them because
you hear that.
You know well I had to whythey're just as bad for the body
.
Yeah, number one there are nohave-tos.
You made a choice.
You decided I don't want tolearn how to groom my dog.
I want to take my dog to thegroomer.
My groomer requires a rabiesshot, so you get the rabies shot
.
Well, you could have madeanother choice and said you know
(19:57):
what?
I'm going to go buy someclippers and I'm going to figure
out how to do this because it'simportant to me that I give dog
rabies shot.
I want to take my dog on anairplane and I have to get the
rabies shot.
Well, put your dog in a car oryou don't travel internationally
with your car.
You can make different choices.
There's no have to.
You're making a choice based onyour lifestyle and you know and
(20:23):
your preferences.
I have many clients that don'tvaccinate their pets and they
figure it out.
They just say I'm not, I'm notgoing on vacation anywhere that
I can't take my dogs because I'mnot going to vaccinate them, to
put them in a boarding kennel.
If I can't find somebody tostay home with them, I'm going
somewhere where I can take mydogs and I'm going to stay in
pet friendly motels.
And and end of story, becausethey're firm in that, in their
(20:45):
stance, that they don't want tovaccinate their dog, so it can
be done and have to, doesn'tchange the side effects.
It's like, well, I had to, somust be the raw food.
Right, that's making my dogsick because I had to give it,
so it can be the vaccine that'smaking my dog sick.
Must be the raw food.
Does that make any sense?
(21:05):
Is there any common sense inthat at all?
Must?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
be so.
It's not the mercury, it's notall of the adjuvants, it's not
all of the crap that's in thereright right now.
Now I will say this Maybeyou've been feeding a blend for
a really long time.
I hear this one.
It never has affected thembefore.
Okay, it is now.
(21:32):
Maybe this blend doesn't workfor them at the moment.
Maybe we need to switch blends.
Perfectly fine.
The other thing is perfectlyfine.
If you want to warm it up, youwant to slightly cook it I hate
that word, cook but you want toput it in the pan and make it a
little, a little less raw.
Be my guest, do it.
(21:53):
Do it, but I am never going to,am never going to agree that
cakes, cookies and chemicals canbe digested better and are
better for your dog's healththan what they were made to eat.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Can't do it, dr chasing sorry me either, even
when I mean I'll have clientscome back and tell me well, if I
kibble, my dog's goops arebetter.
So I don't have an exactexplanation for that, but I
still don't think it's better.
And I think actually the reasonfor that is that kibble is so
(22:34):
unhealthy that the body'sdetoxification pathways aren't
working and you feed a healthydiet and now the body can
actually detox, can actually getrid of all those chemicals and
the body.
You know, when we start to feedraw, they lose body fat.
Well, chemicals, toxins arestored in the fat.
(22:57):
So when dogs and I've seen thismany times they trim down, they
get this nice lean body mass.
They don't have that kibblefluff, that fat layer.
When all that goes away, well,there's toxins in there.
Body's going to flush out.
The body has just so many waysto get rid of toxins.
They can pee them out, poopthem out.
Humans can sweat them out.
Dogs can't sweat them out, butthey get skin rashes and stuff
(23:21):
like that.
There's just so many ways thatthey can get rid of these toxins
and so that is what I think isgoing on.
The body's finally like, okay,let's dump all this stuff.
It's not that the raw food'smaking them sick.
It's that the raw food's makingthe body healthier and the
body's able to get rid of allthose toxins and put them back
on kibble and the poops mightlook better.
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But now the body healthier andthe body's able to get rid of
all those toxins and put themback on kibble and the poops
might look better, but now thebody's holding on to all those
toxins which down the road isgoing to turn into, you know,
potentially cancer or some otherchronic disease and then the
lipomas come and the lipomascome and then we go get them
taken out.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Then we do an unnecessary anesthesia or
whatever else they're going toput in the body.
Just take out the trash,because the body's trying to
take out the trash.
So you're going to Look howcompounded this is Right.
So I have a dog.
I'm afraid of raw.
I'm going to feed it crap.
(24:20):
Not only am I going to feed itcrap, I'm afraid they're going
to get sick.
So I'm going to feed it crap.
Not only am I going to feed itcrap, I'm afraid they're going
to get sick.
So I'm going to put all thetoxins in them and then I get
the kibble fluff and the lipomas.
And now I get to take them backin and put more toxins in them
and expose them to a surgerythat they don't need, and then
we're going to get more toxinsto put in their body to help
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them get over that.
Because I love them, I love them, I want them to be here forever
.
They ain't going to be hereforever.
If you do that, at least nothealthily.
I mean, look, I walk here everyday.
We walk four miles and we walkwhere there are tons of dogs.
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I have never in my life seen somany obese.
There is a lab and Dr Jasek, hecannot even hardly walk because
he's so fat.
And she says to me one day wishmy dog was as as athletic as
(25:24):
yours.
And I am just like I shouldhave a card to hand out.
I can help you, I can help youhelp your dog.
But again, if, if they've goneto their vet and their vet has
said put your animal on this.
We were talking to somebodyyesterday.
They have cats and she wassaying, well, what do I?
(25:47):
What do I do?
Cats eat raw.
And we're like, yeah, more so,they need to eat raw, more so
than than even dogs.
And she was like, well, my vets, because their cat was doing
this.
You know, regurgitation, right?
Would the vet put them onhydrolyzed protein?
Their cat was doing thisregurgitation, right?
What did the vet put them on?
(26:08):
Hydrolyzed protein?
Their cat is two years old andalready having to go in and get
all of this tartar built upremoved.
And I was at.
This is a excuse me.
This is a food issue.
Well, my vet is not for the raw.
Okay, there's not a doggonething, not a sphincter thing in
the world I can do about that.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Dr jay said okay, you gotta make it.
You gotta make a choice.
Who are you gonna believe?
They might not want to believethe lady walking down the street
with the shirt on, even thoughher dog looks fantastic.
I mean, just look at the proof.
You're like, okay, well, thisis what you could get.
I mean, not that their lab'sgoing to turn into a german
shepherd, but you could get anice, lean, fit dog like this,
(26:51):
right?
But oh my, that says that Ishouldn't do that.
Okay, well, you asked.
I mean, all you can do is givepeople the information.
That's, that's what I'm gettingto like.
I think you said I'm not goingto try to convince people one
way or another.
I think the biggest paradigmshift that we need is that
(27:11):
there's like this ego trip inthe medical professions that
health is created.
Health is not created.
God got it right.
God made our bodies, our pet'sbodies, absolutely perfect.
The reason we get illness isbecause we've interrupted that.
(27:32):
Something has disrupted thosenormal processes in the body and
it usually started very, veryyoung.
A lot of times, with these sixand eight week vaccines started
on kibble, really young.
It starts very young and itbuilds up where all these
mechanisms that god put in ourbodies to keep them healthy get
(27:54):
disrupted, and they getdisrupted for years and years
and years.
It's hard to fix it.
It doesn't fix overnight, butwe don't create health.
Health is the natural state ofthe body.
This is the.
You know the whole antibioticthing.
Well, the doctor, like I'mgoing to give you the pills to
keep your body healthy, becauseyour body doesn't know what it's
doing.
But your body cannot figurethis out.
(28:15):
You know, let's kick outbacteria we don't want, keep the
bacteria we do want.
Like, body can't, can't do thatright, so we're going to give
it a bunch of drugs because itdoesn't know how to stay healthy
.
The body knows how to stayhealthy on its own that no, no,
no disrupted the body is lacking, dr jay, sick mercury adjuvants
(28:40):
.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
It is absolutely lacking in that and craving that
right.
There's a lack of it in yourbody, so we're just going to go
ahead and put it in.
They're going to make your dogall well right, right, yep, yep,
that antibiotic deficiency.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
It's that amoxicillin deficiency yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
So let's talk a tad bit about elevated liver enzymes
, because I hear this a lot.
Right, so, dogs not eating wego in, we get these elevated
liver enzymes.
People freak out, but you knowwhat?
Um and I am taking this from anarticle that I found from dogs,
naturally, but um, we've talkedabout this many, many times.
(29:19):
Okay, what causes elevatedliver enzymes in dogs?
You want to know what?
The first um three things are,dr Jacek, I do.
You do, okay, medications,vaccine adjuvants that we were
just talking about and endocrinedisrupting chemicals, but they
(29:41):
also, um, kibble, kibble dietsright.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So they're saying what?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
what?
That's just wrong.
Um, so they're saying, you know, like people want to say, oh my
gosh, I'm feeding a raw dietand my dog's got these elevated
liver enzymes.
What's in that raw food?
Eating a raw diet and my dog'sgot these elevated liver enzymes
?
What's in that raw food?
No, no, no.
It's not in the medicationsthat we just gave the dogs, you
know, like the phenobarbitalmaybe that they're taking for
(30:09):
seizures or heartwormmedications or anti-inflammatory
drugs, right?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Not causing these elevatedliver enzymes Prednisone.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I've had clients come into me because their dog has
elevated liver enzymesPrednisone.
I've had clients come in to mebecause their dog has elevated
liver enzymes.
You know, of course I'm lookingat the records and everything
and like your dog's still onprednisone, yeah Well, did your
vet tell you that that'll raisethe liver enzymes?
Because the vet now wants to dolike a liver biopsy or
something because it got theseelevated enzymes.
Well, did the vet mention thatprednisone could maybe be
(30:41):
raising those enzymes?
Well, the vet mentioned thatprednisone could maybe be
raising those?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
oh no, they didn't mention that, you know.
So you want to talk aboutvaccine adjuvants?
Uh, in this article they weresaying the aluminum hydroxide
adjuvant adjuvant, adjuvant alsotriggers the motor neuron
autoimmunity issue seen in gulfwar syndrome sufferers.
Okay, and uh, this syndrome hasbeen found to be
(31:10):
indistinguishable from theautoimmune disease als um.
And and they said, the aluminumhydroxide also causes a loss of
mitochondria and cell death inmouse livers exposed to low
doses of the hep B vaccine.
So you want to talk about allof these adjuvants?
(31:31):
I mean, you could go on forevertalking about what they do,
right.
And then you come back to my dogneeds cakes, cookies and
chemicals in order to digest thefood.
And it's the question in thisarticle says can dog food cause
elevated liver enzymes?
And it's saying, yeah, thedangerous mycotoxins and
(31:54):
aflatoxins in kibble dog foodaffects the liver, causing
jaundice, weight loss, lethargyand the those toxins can be life
threatening.
Also the synthetic vitamins,minerals, pesticides, other
toxins.
You know your dog's body has towork really hard to detox that,
(32:16):
as you were talking about.
Right, they may not feel wellafter they're getting off all
that crap, getting on a raw diet.
And then people are like, oh,it's making my dog sick, and
then you push it right backtowards the stuff that is not
good for them, right?
And the question in thisarticle says so.
What do you feed a dog withhigh liver enzymes?
(32:37):
I don't know, dr Jasek.
What do you think it says?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Probably the same thing.
I'd recommend a healthy dog eat, because a healthy diet is a
healthy diet and the liver needshealthy food more than ever if
the liver enzymes are elevated.
Just a guess what they say.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
That's exactly right.
It says you can feed a dietthat supports the liver and
that's a fresh, whole food, raw,meat-based diet without
synthetic chemicals Right.
And if you want to support theliver, dr Jasek, you have great
herbs, things like milk, thistleand all these different types
of things that you can supportthat.
(33:14):
But I would say, before you godown this crazy, you know,
giving your dogs all thesethings and continuing to put the
, the major offenders in theirbody, switch the diet, pull the
toxins out, then let's have alook-see, right?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
and not only the chemicals, but for people that
have their dog on 20 or 30quote-unquote natural
supplements, like I think youcan overload I know you can
overload the liver with evennatural things.
Um, that you know.
Sure, they're herbs and they'reall this stuff, but you're
(33:51):
giving the body so much toprocess and the liver has to
work to process that stuff.
So if I have a client come inand their dog has elevated liver
enzymes and I look at theirsupplement list and it's like 20
long, I'm like anything that'snot medically necessary, like
there's some things don't justpull them off, cold turkey,
anything else we stop it.
(34:12):
Stop them, get them on ahealthy diet and then we recheck
those liver enzymes.
And a lot of people don't liketo hear that because they want
to know what's the next thingI'm going to add to get the
liver enzymes down.
People don't often think interms of what do I need to take
out?
It's like what else can I putin here?
Because I got these list of 10other supplements I was thinking
(34:32):
about buying.
Which ones do you think Ishould get now to support the
liver?
It's like no, no, no, we got totake stuff out.
We get a new baseline and thenwe see if the liver enzymes are
still elevated, okay, then wecan add in something specific
for liver support.
But a lot of times we're justoverloading the liver.
And then when we get thosethings, get those things out,
we're not overloading the liver.
(34:54):
And then we do more appropriatesupplementation, the liver
enzymes come down.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, I really do think that we have to take it
one step at a time and everystep that we take, give it some
space, breathe.
You know what I'm saying, likeit's, it's my, my sweet mom.
You know she, she's goingthrough some some back problems
and this and that some differentanxiety problems, and she
(35:27):
really is very wants somethingfor it right now.
And I'm like, mom, are youdoing the exercises?
Are you eating correctly?
Are we doing, you know?
Are we doing?
Know, are we doing?
Well, no, but you know, it'skind of like I just need if they
would just give me this thingover here, then I'd be okay.
(35:51):
And you know, watching familymembers that are going through
some major illnesses right now,when the body is going through a
healing phase, it's's painful,it can be painful and it can be
painful for a dog and you haveto work back up to health.
But a lot of Americans don'twant to do the work or to be
(36:18):
patient.
Right, and being patient iswork in itself, it just is right
.
It's being patient and kind ofwaiting and seeing what we're
going to do, and it's hard andit's frightening.
And I think the other thing too,dr Drasik, is there's a real
lack of trust in our medicalindustry, and rightly so.
(36:41):
They've earned that.
Okay, so they've earned that,okay, they've earned that.
And, um, I mean, just look atthis whole avian flu, look at
the covid, um, you know, so it's, it's tough and that's why I
really think that working withdr jacek's group aha vetcom, aha
(37:04):
, vetcom is very essential,effective, uh, for you as a pet
parent, because she can say thebig words and four or five
syllables, bring them on let mesee what I can do.
(37:26):
I can't do any of it, but I butI'm not here to dispel medical
advice, okay, but dr jason giz,okay.
So we, we at raw dog feedingcompany, what we're gonna give
you is how to feed your dogs andcats appropriately, and we're
going to give you thatinformation based on research
(37:49):
and experience and a whole bodyof evidence.
So I'm not going to be able tocompete with the vets that have
just come out of school and haveno experience.
I can't.
I can't compete with thatbecause they have a white coat
and, um, maybe I should havemade all of our raw dog food
(38:10):
shirts look like white coatsright, I should have you know.
But but I will say this you know, viore is a uh, I think it's
viore, I'm not even sure ifthat's the right one, but
they're making medical wear verycomfortable, very, very nice.
You know, they're making likeleggings and so they are taking
(38:33):
off the white coats.
I will say that.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I used to wear.
I used to wear those whitecoats, but you know what, when
you're working with pets,they're not white for about 10
minutes, and then you got hairand you got dirt and you got,
you get pee.
I mean, come on like I.
I gave that up because I meanthat's just not very practical.
Maybe if you're working onpeople and you don't like have
(38:57):
to actually touch your patientsstuff, um, maybe that, maybe
that works.
But, um, I have oneoccasionally if I want to, you
know, like pictures, but I don'teven do that anymore.
I just think natural is better.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Hey, why did you want to be a vet?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
You know, I I really I've really enjoyed learning
like how the body works.
I think that was that initialcuriosity Cause I'm like I was
like curious, like you know, howdoes this, you know this stuff
work?
I think it more started withlike that curiosity like how
does that body work, how doesthat stuff work?
And then I don't know, I wasalways more drawn to helping
(39:39):
animals more than people.
I think it's because, likepeople got brains, you know,
like they can figure stuff out.
Animals are subject to whattheir people think and what
their people decide.
I mean, put three dishes offood down for your dog, like
you're cooked like farmer's dogand you're raw in your kibble
and see what your dog wants toeat.
(39:59):
You know, maybe like, try that,eat all three.
The lab, they probably eat allthree, um, but they're not given
that choice.
You know they can't tell you,hey, when I eat that I just
don't, you know, I just don'tfeel good.
So so pets, it seems like, needmore, more help.
You know, getting getting theright care.
(40:20):
So being an advocate for pets,um, I don't know, was more
appealing to me than thanworking with people.
However, with what I finallyfigured out, those, all these
pets come attached to a human totalk to the people anyway right
, right and and and again.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I contend that many times when, when folks are
asking for advice, I just needto ask them what they want me to
say.
What do you want me to saytoday?
Here's the things that I'm notgoing to be able to agree with
you on, and I should just listit out.
Not going to be able to agreewith that, but I will help you.
Maybe you need to switch theblend.
(41:01):
Okay, that's the first thing.
Reduce toxins, not mixingkibble or crappy treats or
puppuccinos or, you know, milkor dairy products, um, and stop
putting toxins in them now youshould have a post this says
here's today's answers, just allthose things.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
If you want a different answer, I guess you're
gonna have to ask somebody else.
These are all the answers I gottoday.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, these are my answers today, tomorrow and the
next day they're probably allthe same every day these are my
answers Right?
Right, Slightly cook it if youwant.
I don't, that's fine.
I don't like to waste my money,I don't.
I don't want to waste my moneyor take away the minerals.
I do warm my dog food up.
I do just to room temperature.
(41:56):
And how do I do that?
Well, and I'm going to get somepushback on this too but I
actually weigh it out, I put itin a plastic bag, I put a bowl
of water there and I put theplastic bag in the water and
then I just turn it over acouple of times and it just kind
of takes that chill off.
It's not hot, so that you knowthe plastics leaching into the
dog food, because the peoplewill be saying it's not like
that.
That's just what I do.
(42:18):
And then I take the plastic bagand I just dump it out in the
bowl.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Well.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I'm even lazier than that.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
I'm even lazier than that.
I wait out and then I just takesome warm water and just splash
it on the food and make it alittle soupy.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
That's what I've done too.
I've done that too, and sothere's all different ways you
know to do it.
But, dr Jessica, I just this iswhat befuddles me in 25 years I
have not had a dog not be ableto digest raw food and not want
(42:57):
their food.
I've never, ever had thathappen.
Now I know that people say ithappens.
What I, I would love.
I wish you know, and I thinkthat Julianne Lee with the
Doored Beast, I mean, she hadthis amazing clinic right At one
time where it was like youcould come in for all of these
different services and I bet andshe said that she started kind
(43:21):
of seeing that she had tocounsel the humans was something
that she, but I bet if she hadthat kind of clinic she could.
To counsel the humans wassomething that she, but I bet if
, if, if she had that kind ofclinic, she could bring a dog in
.
Now, she wasn't in the dog foodbusiness, she was in the
supplement business.
But bring a dog in and bringthe food and then watch and let
me see what's happening and thenget a whole list of what was
happening in the in her, in theparent's house, which is what
(43:44):
she said.
I had to get this whole listright.
We had to go through this wholechecklist of you know what
could possibly be the issue.
But if you have a group, youhave a big group of dogs, of
animals, who are not havingtoxins go in their body.
No preventatives go in theirbody, no chemicals, no
(44:04):
synthetics go in their body.
No preventatives go in theirbody.
No chemicals, no synthetics goin their body.
Which group stops eating?
Right?
And if you're doing a rotationof proteins and and I still see
that people get really stuck onone protein, one blend, and then
their dogs are like I'm gettingsick of this blend.
They're not sick, they're sickand tired of that blend.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
So just switch it up Right.
And what people are putting in?
So these same people that aregiving these 20 different
supplements?
If you're putting a bunch ofthat stuff in the food, the dogs
don't get tired of eating allthat stuff.
I mean, I run into that even onherbs and things that I do
recommend.
When somebody comes back andsays my dog's not eating, are
(44:51):
you still putting herbs in thefood?
If the answer is yes, I saidjust stop putting the herbs in.
I want to know if the dog'seating its food on its own and
like 80% of the time they are.
They're just, they don't wantthe herbs and sometimes they get
tired of them.
Sometimes their body justdoesn't need them anymore.
I really think that.
You know cause I do a lot withChinese herbal medicine and
(45:14):
Chinese herbal medicine is aboutcorrecting imbalances in the
body.
So sometimes we do a blend.
For a while We've handled thatsituation the dog doesn't need
it anymore, or cat, and theydon't want it anymore.
Their body knows that theydon't need it anymore, so they
don't want it.
So.
But it's important to know like, so we'll pull that stuff out
(45:35):
and then if they go back toeating, fine, said, okay, it's
the herbs.
If we decide to continue those,then we find other ways of
giving them, hide them in atreat or something separate from
from the food.
But I think sometimes peopledon't don't think about that
either.
All this other stuff there thatthey're adding is a food.
It's that the food always getsblamed.
It's never the, it's never theother stuff.
(45:57):
Like who, who decided that?
That it's always the food'sfault?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
well, I have eight dogs, uh, in family members.
Okay, eight dogs that Iactually make the order for.
That means I know what they'reeating and it gets sent to them,
right, I pick it out and I sentit to them.
They never have issues.
Um, except I had one say well,you know, she's doing the
(46:30):
burpees and she's doing thiskind of stuff.
And I said let me look at whatelse you give them.
Well, we got these treats fromCostco.
I said turn the bag over.
How many ingredients are inthere?
Oh, okay, I was like no, no, no, and pull those out, let me
(46:50):
know if it changes.
Yep, certainly did change.
So I pretty much know, you know.
And then, of course, we haveall of our employees' dogs,
right?
So I'm watching all of this allthe time, listening to my
customers, obviously, takingquestions, asking that question
what are you doing?
What vaccines, whatpreventatives?
(47:11):
And I'm telling you, dr jaycee,nine times out of ten, nine and
a half times out of ten, it isthose other extenuating
circumstances that are having amajor bearing on their digestive
issues.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
So absolutely, absolutely.
I mean I, I would agree almostalways, maybe even 95 of the
time.
It's that now, you know,sometimes, you know, I see
cancer patients decline, sure,and they will lose their
appetite.
Yeah, that's like way end stageup until that point.
Then there's, there's somethingwe can work with and most dogs
(47:50):
will eat and love the, the, theraw food.
I, you know.
I do find you're talking aboutwarming it.
Um, because that's one of thefirst questions we ask.
If somebody says their dogisn't wanting to eat the food, I
see a lot of people that'lljust pull it out of the fridge
and just stick it in the bowlcold, and that can be hard on
digestion.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Because what about their teeth If their teeth are
something's wrong with theirteeth?
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, if it's an old dog with bad teeth, sure, but
that cold actually inhibits therelease of the enzymes in the
stomach, so you don't want tofeed you know something cold,
like you know, right out of theright out of the fridge.
So we talk a lot about warmingit or pour some warm water, like
(48:35):
warm bone broth too is anothergreat thing to pour it, because
that's real nourishing for thegut too.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Yeah, well, these are lots of good tips today for you
and our listeners, and leteverybody know about the Raw Dog
Food Truth Podcast.
Listen, we have a great Rumblepage as well, where you're going
to see the videos out there.
Make sure you follow us onFacebook and on X, because we
are there as well.
(49:02):
Dr Jasek's website is ahavetcom.
Ahavetcom.
She can certainly give you asecond opinion and alternatives
Okay, lots and lots ofalternatives to the I have to.
Okay, so get over there todayand get your dog on a species
appropriate diet.
(49:23):
Brian is there to help you.
He's a nutritionist and you canget into a free consult.
Even if you're not going to buyfrom me, I would say that we
can help you because we're inthe business of helping your
pets, so it's a free consult.
He'll help you.
Remember that if you're comingto us and you're feeding kibble,
(49:44):
that's the first thing thatwe're going to tell you Get off
the kibble, Okay, and I don'tcare if it's prescription food.
Somebody said to me the otherday well, we're feeding science
diet and I said, well, that'scalled science death in our
world.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
So just FYI, it's all kibble, even the good ones,
even the good ones.
I feed a really good.
I've never heard that a lot Ifeed kibble, but it's a really
good one.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
I I say what does that mean?
Yeah, what does that mean?
It costs more.
Okay, cost more.
I'm gonna increase my prices init.
All right, everybody, get overto raw dog food and companycom,
where your pet's health is ourbusiness and where what dr jacek
?
Speaker 2 (50:29):
friends, don't let friends feed, kibble y'all
that's right, come run thebubble.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
All right, dr jacek, take care, we'll see you soon.
Bye, bye, oh snap.
Find out how you can start yourdog on the road to health and
longevity.
Go to rawdogfoodandcompanycom,where friends don't let friends
feed kibble and where your pet'shealth is our business.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Just snap.
Oh snaps.
Well, hello Relfeaters.
I'm Deedee Merson-Moffitt, ceoof a raw dog feeding company.
We're Pets, health is ourbusiness and we're friends, like
my friend, dr Judy Jasik, howdo I get you on the video
pointing to the?
There she is right there.
She doesn't let friends feedkibble.
Good morning, dr Jasik.
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Good morning, Good, good, here can I?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm going to unblur my screens.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Everybody can see me out in my camper.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Dr Jasek, we know what's happening.
We know what's happening.
You are afraid of the bird fluand you've put yourself in a
bubble.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I can see it right now.
I'm the bubble vet.
I'm the bubble vet.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You're ever loving bird flu mind.
What are you doing out?
There by the way you're everloving bird flu mind.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
What are you doing out there, by the way?
Oh, we got our house.
Our house is being painted and,um, so there's noise, there's
sanding, it's stinky and there'sguys running around all over
the place.
Today they were painting, likethe outside doors, like along
our deck.
So in my bedroom, I mean, whenI was getting dressed I locked
myself in the bathroom andpulled the shade down so I knew
they weren't going to come inthere.
(01:06):
But then I'm out in my bedroom,you know, and then they're
outside, you know, looking inthe window.
I mean, they were intentionallylooking, they're just they're
painting, cause we've got a doorfrom our bedroom that goes out
onto our deck and all that.
So out here I can just be in mybubble and, and you know it's,
um, it's okay.
(01:27):
I have a lot of fond memories.
We've done a lot of really funcamping trips in this camper.
So you know it's, it's okay.
It's not the most comfortableoffice seating, but you know
it's, it's okay yeah, it's cool,it's.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
That's very smart to take yourself out of the area
that is got a lot of toxinsgoing on in there, right?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
oh yeah, paint beams, everything like that, that's
awesome, just it's just thechaos, just the constant yeah
chris can deal with it, myhusband, he can.
He can just focus on what he'sdoing and block out all sorts of
things, even me.
So well, he's a man, he's a manand that's what men do.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
They just are like, you know, because if they were
going into battle, they got tobe focused on what their mission
is right singular focus, butjust us women, you know, we got
like 9 000 things going aroundall at once, right, right, we,
we do, we do.
Here comes my coffee, coming infrom out of the show.
Thank you, babe, Thanks Hi.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Rick, we're actually on recording.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Thank you, babe.
I like that when the coffeegods disappear, right.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That is awesome.
How is it getting better thanthat?
Huh.
Right, hey you know what needsto get better, dr Jasek, what
needs to get better dr?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
jasic.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
What needs to get better common sense as mark
didn't mark twain say commonsense ain't so common anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
All the way back then all the way back, then he said
that we were losing common senseall the way back then okay, I
just you know, okay, folks does.
Okay, if you, dr Jasek, let'sjust talk about this for a
second.
If you're sick and unwell, inwhatever way you want to say,
(03:16):
what would you say as a medicalprofessional, maybe even just as
a normal human being that hascommon sense?
Processed food's going to makeyou healthier, heal faster, or
is real food going to be theoptimal choice?
(03:37):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, my common sense would tell me that real food
would make me feel better,because that's what our body is
meant to eat.
However, that doesn't seem tobe the mainstream way of
thinking.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Okay when dogs are eating raw.
There's a common thought forsome dogs that stop eating raw
or or they'll have whateverissue they're going to have in
in the digestive area.
(04:13):
And and people will say my dogscan't digest raw.
And I'm befuddled, verybefuddled, by that comment, Dr
Jasek.
Why would raw, real food not beable to be digested better than
(04:35):
chemicals, cakes and cookies?
Right Got me.
I thought you were going togive us a really great answer
there.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I don't know answer there.
Don't know, I don't know Idon't know.
I don't know it doesn't make it.
It doesn't, it doesn't make anysense, and I hear this all the
time too.
People will pick apart, likewhat's in the raw food, like
ground bone or the organs, orthere's too much copper, because
(05:03):
it's copper storage disease,that like.
When I was in vet school theysaid that like you might see one
of these in your whole career,maybe two now it's like very
commonly diagnosed.
So then everybody's likeanything with any copper in it.
You know it's got to be bad.
So we can't feed organs and wecan't feed this.
Why doesn't anybody ever pickapart the 60 ingredients in a
(05:26):
typical bag of kibble?
they don't go down that list.
What is beet pulp or chickenmeal or chicken liver flavor?
Nobody ever scrutinized.
They don't even know what thoseare.
At least these are realingredients.
Okay, I know what bone is, Iknow what what liver is, I know
what heart is, I know what meatis.
But you can't go down that list.
(05:50):
Nobody knows.
I don't even know what most ofthat stuff even means.
They don't want us to know.
And then you get this wholelist of chemicals that they call
vitamins and minerals, butnobody ever scrutinizes where
that comes from.
But nobody ever scrutinizeswhere that comes from.
Why is that?
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Because there's this school of thought that that's
safe Raw food is dangerous andthat is why the cooked foods for
dogs are very popular and voidof nutrition, high in the carbs,
high in the fillers.
But it satisfies the petparents.
(06:35):
Now here's another factor.
When we hear that a dog hasdigestive issues, pretty much
most of those dogs have beenvaccinated up the wazoo, lots of
toxins that have been put intotheir bodies, all in the name of
(06:58):
safety.
Got to make sure the dog issafe from rabid squirrels,
raccoons, bats don't forget thelepto in the squirrel pee oh,
yes, that too because dogs drink, drink, squirrel pee all the
time.
Well, you know, when they'rethirsty, come on, it's just a,
(07:19):
you know.
But I'm just, I, just, um, andand we're very condescending
today and I, I on on purpose,because I just don't get it.
Guys, what we, we need to snapout of it.
We got to snap out.
Where's the common sense?
I'm not feeling well.
Therefore, give me, give me,give me some toxins, dr Jaycee.
(07:40):
Let me have some toxins.
And and let me have some, um,fried food, some very processed
food.
I don't have a clue what's init.
We call that comfort food mostof the time, right, um and uh,
let me see if I feel better.
I, I, I don't know, I, I can't,I can't.
(08:04):
After this many years of doingraw, doing the podcast,
consulting with folks, I justhave to say, okay, go.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
And and you know the reason I think we get
condescending it's because wejust want to help the pets.
But we can't help the petsunless we get through to the
humans.
And the humans just don't seethis.
And this isn't just opinion.
We've seen so many pets turnaround eating fresh food that we
know it's healthier for them.
(08:35):
I know it's healthier for them.
The ones that appear to haveissues with it, you know, maybe
get some diarrhea or something.
It's because their bodies havebeen so compromised by all the
other crap that has been putinto them over the years and
that doesn't just go away.
And people are.
(08:55):
The conventional medicine hastrained people to think well, I
just want that magic fix becausethere's drugs that'll make
symptoms go away, but all thosethat's suppressing the symptoms
just drives the illness deeper.
We need to look at what is thebody telling us.
So there's diarrhea.
What is diarrhea?
Diarrhea, in most cases isdetox.
Body's trying to kick somethingout that it doesn't want.
(09:17):
And in the case of raw food,it's not that the raw food is
the problem, it's that thebody's trying to get rid of all
the other toxins that have beenput into it for years and years,
and years.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You know it is a tough conversation, even a
tougher concept to think, oh, mydog has loose poops, they're
sick.
Okay.
Now I contend that, as you andI know, that's that if you have
been feeding a blend with boneand all of a sudden you decide
(09:51):
you're going to feed a blendwith no bone, yeah, you're
probably going to see some loosepoops.
If you're feeding raw and youdo like what I did, and you give
your pup a handful of hearts,you know, and, and then they
have loose poops.
You're like, and I'm talkingabout really loose.
I'm like what did I just do?
You know, let me step back andthink what did I do?
(10:11):
What's been going on?
Ah, I gave a handful of hearts.
What was I thinking?
One heart would have beenenough.
I'm talking about a turkeyheart for Lazi.
But I'm just like I don't havethat knee jerk reaction to take
my dog to the vet.
I just don't.
That's not something I do.
So I think that's sort of alifestyle in a belief system and
(10:35):
a experience right To saywhether I'm going to look at my
dog as sick.
I don't ever see going to lookat my dog as sick.
I don't ever see, even at thetime that she goes outside and
wants to eat some grass or hasloose poops or occasionally,
once in a blue moon, is going todo the herpes.
(10:56):
I'm like she's not sick.
This is the body's naturalthing that it does.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Let it do it.
Well, you know what, if I haveloose poops, I don't go running
off to the doctor.
I say what did I eat differentthe last couple of days?
Did I eat something?
That's the very first thing andthat's what most people I know
think.
Oh, maybe it's that Mexicanfood I had last night.
Yeah, that's it, the extraspicy with all the jalapenosenos
(11:23):
.
That's probably why I got loosepoops today.
You know, we think about thatas humans, but with the dogs
it's like, oh my gosh, betterrun off to the vet and get drugs
and put them on antibiotics orput them on something some
pharmaceutical, because that'sthe way veterinarians are
programmed.
I actually remember this wasyears ago I remember sitting at
(11:46):
a conference and I was in like apractice management lecture and
they said your clients expectto walk out of your office with
a bottle of pills and if youdon't give them a bottle of
pills, they're not going to behappy and they'll go someplace
else because they want thatbottle of pills.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
That's how vets are taught to run their businesses
that's exactly what what umamanda, our daughter, has said.
When I have said why, why do itwhat?
Why, why are we giving thoseantibiotics?
Because people want something?
Yeah, right, exactly.
So I had this tooth done, drjason, where I had it yanked out
of my head right, didn't didn'twant it yanked out of my head
(12:25):
Right, didn't want it yanked out.
But they were like, yeah, youdon't have a choice.
Yeah, you always have a choice.
You could hold on to it andhave pain.
But they were like it's crackedall the way down.
You got extras.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You got lots of spares, so just one.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, there's a big hole still.
And there's a big hole still.
Okay, they gave me antibiotics,hydrocodone.
Did I take any of it?
Absolutely not.
Took none of it.
And they would say, oh, you'vegot to take the antibiotics in
(13:01):
case it gets infected.
And I'm like, well, if it getsinfected, then I'll take the
antibiotics, but I'm going gonnalet the body do its job, right.
And and even when I've had someother little minor surgeries,
they say, now listen, guys,don't you know you got to make
your own decision.
They're like did he tell me notto give my dog antibiotic and
(13:22):
she't she die?
I'm not giving you medicaladvice.
I'm telling you a story of mylife, of me, of what I do,
because this is the lifestylethat I choose.
Right, because why?
I'm not afraid of bacteria, notafraid of I can give medical
(13:43):
advice.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Okay, there it is.
Because I got this, I can put Igot this little certificate
that I got that I paid a wholelot of money for many, many
years ago.
This is, I can give medicaladvice there you go and there's
no benefit to the prophylacticuse of antibiotics.
What is prophylactic means?
It means just in case, oh doesit, I thought it meant through
(14:07):
the mouth.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
What does prophylactic mean actually?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
just in case you, just as a preventative, like
prophylactic means.
So if you're if you're doingprophylaxis, you're doing
preventative.
So you know, dog gets bit byanother dog and they go in right
away and get everything cleanedup.
Well, just in case this getsinfected, let's give antibiotics
(14:33):
.
That's called prophylactic useof of anything.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Wow, I learned something new today, see yeah,
that's.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
That's why I need you , that's why the world needs.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Dr Jacey, thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I told you, we go to medical school to learn the big
words.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yes, you do, and then we sound smart.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You don't have to be smart, you just have to be able
to say the big words andeverybody thinks you're smart.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well, I disagree.
You have to be smart.
Now some people may shut thedogs as well, but let's just say
this Dr Jasek, I don't do theprophylactics thing, just in
(15:14):
case I decide I'm not going totake it unless I have a problem.
Can I get on top of thatproblem with antibiotics in the
event that I do have a problem?
Can I get on top of thatproblem with antibiotics in the
event?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
that I do have a problem.
Well, if you believe that thebody can heal, I mean, why give
the body something that itdoesn't need?
That's going to further harm?
I mean, that's the other partof this is is that prophylaxis
benign or is there potentialharm to come of it?
(15:48):
In the case of a tooth removallike in animals most of the time
teeth that need to come outthey are infected or there's
bacteria there, because thetooth has broken down and the
ligaments between the root andthe bone have broken down, so
the tooth's loose, so there is abunch of bacteria growing in
(16:11):
there.
But the reason that's happeningis because that tooth is
diseased.
And if you remove the tooth,you're removing the problem and
then the body can come up and orcome in and clean up the rest,
because the body knows how to dothat.
If you do the antibiotics justin case, well, first of all
(16:34):
you're hammering the gut, soyou're actually impeding the
body's ability to get in thereand clean up any unwanted
bacteria or clean up this toothremoval site with the
antibiotics.
So you're actually doing moreharm than good.
In the interest of forsupposedly preventing a problem.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
you actually could be creating more problem which is
exactly what they said when theytook this tooth out.
They're like, oh, there's somebacteria in there, we're going
to clean it out, okay you cleanit out and do your job, whatever
that is.
And they packed it right Becausethey're like well, you have to
have an implant.
Nothing you can do about that.
(17:18):
If you decide to have animplant or you just leave a hole
in your face, I don't know, butthere's still an opening there.
Am I worried about it?
I am not.
And yet they have said thehuman mouth is the dirtiest
thing.
There's so much bacteria inthere.
I'm like, well, okay, obviouslyit knows what it's doing and
(17:39):
I'm not taking one antibioticbecause I, like you, believe
that that's how the body heals.
They took it out.
If it was cracked and there wasa hole that went all the way
straight down, there was maybesomething that was festering.
Who knows, whatever, it's stilla little sore, but do I worry
about it?
No, you know what I do.
(18:00):
I gargle with sea salt fromDran, the seawater, the ibiza
seawater.
I love it.
Actually, this is kind of gross, but what I do is I squish it
around in my mouth and then Ijust swallow it, because that's
what you're supposed to do withthat seawater is.
Take a little bit of it everyday and they say it's like blood
plasma.
(18:21):
Right, it's, it's.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's amazing I've heard that that seawater is the
same as, like the natural fluidin our body yeah, yeah, now you
don't want to take a ton of it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You're probably going to be, you know, have a little
loose stool and then you'regoing to go get something for
that loose stool.
No, you're more into right.
So that's, that's the againthere.
There is nothing that I'm goingto be able to say to a pet
parent that's going to convinceyou any differently.
If you call, just tell us whatyou want us to say and we'll say
(18:52):
it.
I don't think I'm going to beable to convince you that real
food, ie raw, is healthier foryour dog than any kind of
prescription, or kibble orcooked.
I'm not going to be able to dothat.
That comes from my belief, myresearch and my 25 years
(19:15):
experience.
I also do not know what elseyou're putting into your dog,
whether you think that thevaccines and the preventatives
and the prophylactics are safe,or whether you think that the
vaccines and the preventativesand the prophylactics are safe,
or whether you think thatthey're they're good, they they
have a repercussion on the body.
I'm not going to be able to totalk you out of that.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So even if you feel like you have to do them because
you hear that.
You know well I had to whythey're just as bad for the body
.
Yeah, number one there are nohave-tos.
You made a choice.
You decided I don't want tolearn how to groom my dog.
I want to take my dog to thegroomer.
My groomer requires a rabiesshot, so you get the rabies shot
.
Well, you could have madeanother choice and said you know
(19:57):
what?
I'm going to go buy someclippers and I'm going to figure
out how to do this because it'simportant to me that I give dog
rabies shot.
I want to take my dog on anairplane and I have to get the
rabies shot.
Well, put your dog in a car oryou don't travel internationally
with your car.
You can make different choices.
There's no have to.
You're making a choice based onyour lifestyle and you know and
(20:23):
your preferences.
I have many clients that don'tvaccinate their pets and they
figure it out.
They just say I'm not, I'm notgoing on vacation anywhere that
I can't take my dogs because I'mnot going to vaccinate them, to
put them in a boarding kennel.
If I can't find somebody tostay home with them, I'm going
somewhere where I can take mydogs and I'm going to stay in
pet friendly motels.
And and end of story, becausethey're firm in that, in their
(20:45):
stance, that they don't want tovaccinate their dog, so it can
be done and have to, doesn'tchange the side effects.
It's like, well, I had to, somust be the raw food.
Right, that's making my dogsick because I had to give it,
so it can be the vaccine that'smaking my dog sick.
Must be the raw food.
Does that make any sense?
(21:05):
Is there any common sense inthat at all?
Must?
Speaker 1 (21:08):
be so.
It's not the mercury, it's notall of the adjuvants, it's not
all of the crap that's in thereright right now.
Now I will say this Maybeyou've been feeding a blend for
a really long time.
I hear this one.
It never has affected thembefore.
Okay, it is now.
(21:32):
Maybe this blend doesn't workfor them at the moment.
Maybe we need to switch blends.
Perfectly fine.
The other thing is perfectlyfine.
If you want to warm it up, youwant to slightly cook it I hate
that word, cook but you want toput it in the pan and make it a
little, a little less raw.
Be my guest, do it.
(21:53):
Do it, but I am never going to,am never going to agree that
cakes, cookies and chemicals canbe digested better and are
better for your dog's healththan what they were made to eat.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Can't do it, dr chasing sorry me either, even
when I mean I'll have clientscome back and tell me well, if I
kibble, my dog's goops arebetter.
So I don't have an exactexplanation for that, but I
still don't think it's better.
And I think actually the reasonfor that is that kibble is so
(22:34):
unhealthy that the body'sdetoxification pathways aren't
working and you feed a healthydiet and now the body can
actually detox, can actually getrid of all those chemicals and
the body.
You know, when we start to feedraw, they lose body fat.
Well, chemicals, toxins arestored in the fat.
(22:57):
So when dogs and I've seen thismany times they trim down, they
get this nice lean body mass.
They don't have that kibblefluff, that fat layer.
When all that goes away, well,there's toxins in there.
Body's going to flush out.
The body has just so many waysto get rid of toxins.
They can pee them out, poopthem out.
Humans can sweat them out.
Dogs can't sweat them out, butthey get skin rashes and stuff
(23:21):
like that.
There's just so many ways thatthey can get rid of these toxins
and so that is what I think isgoing on.
The body's finally like, okay,let's dump all this stuff.
It's not that the raw food'smaking them sick.
It's that the raw food's makingthe body healthier and the
body's able to get rid of allthose toxins and put them back
on kibble and the poops mightlook better.
(23:41):
But now the body healthier andthe body's able to get rid of
all those toxins and put themback on kibble and the poops
might look better, but now thebody's holding on to all those
toxins which down the road isgoing to turn into, you know,
potentially cancer or some otherchronic disease and then the
lipomas come and the lipomascome and then we go get them
taken out.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Then we do an unnecessary anesthesia or
whatever else they're going toput in the body.
Just take out the trash,because the body's trying to
take out the trash.
So you're going to Look howcompounded this is Right.
So I have a dog.
I'm afraid of raw.
I'm going to feed it crap.
(24:20):
Not only am I going to feed itcrap, I'm afraid they're going
to get sick.
So I'm going to feed it crap.
Not only am I going to feed itcrap, I'm afraid they're going
to get sick.
So I'm going to put all thetoxins in them and then I get
the kibble fluff and the lipomas.
And now I get to take them backin and put more toxins in them
and expose them to a surgerythat they don't need, and then
we're going to get more toxinsto put in their body to help
(24:43):
them get over that.
Because I love them, I love them, I want them to be here forever
.
They ain't going to be hereforever.
If you do that, at least nothealthily.
I mean, look, I walk here everyday.
We walk four miles and we walkwhere there are tons of dogs.
(25:04):
I have never in my life seen somany obese.
There is a lab and Dr Jasek, hecannot even hardly walk because
he's so fat.
And she says to me one day wishmy dog was as as athletic as
(25:24):
yours.
And I am just like I shouldhave a card to hand out.
I can help you, I can help youhelp your dog.
But again, if, if they've goneto their vet and their vet has
said put your animal on this.
We were talking to somebodyyesterday.
They have cats and she wassaying, well, what do I?
(25:47):
What do I do?
Cats eat raw.
And we're like, yeah, more so,they need to eat raw, more so
than than even dogs.
And she was like, well, my vets, because their cat was doing
this.
You know, regurgitation, right?
Would the vet put them onhydrolyzed protein?
Their cat was doing thisregurgitation, right?
What did the vet put them on?
(26:08):
Hydrolyzed protein?
Their cat is two years old andalready having to go in and get
all of this tartar built upremoved.
And I was at.
This is a excuse me.
This is a food issue.
Well, my vet is not for the raw.
Okay, there's not a doggonething, not a sphincter thing in
the world I can do about that.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Dr jay said okay, you gotta make it.
You gotta make a choice.
Who are you gonna believe?
They might not want to believethe lady walking down the street
with the shirt on, even thoughher dog looks fantastic.
I mean, just look at the proof.
You're like, okay, well, thisis what you could get.
I mean, not that their lab'sgoing to turn into a german
shepherd, but you could get anice, lean, fit dog like this,
(26:51):
right?
But oh my, that says that Ishouldn't do that.
Okay, well, you asked.
I mean, all you can do is givepeople the information.
That's, that's what I'm gettingto like.
I think you said I'm not goingto try to convince people one
way or another.
I think the biggest paradigmshift that we need is that
(27:11):
there's like this ego trip inthe medical professions that
health is created.
Health is not created.
God got it right.
God made our bodies, our pet'sbodies, absolutely perfect.
The reason we get illness isbecause we've interrupted that.
(27:32):
Something has disrupted thosenormal processes in the body and
it usually started very, veryyoung.
A lot of times, with these sixand eight week vaccines started
on kibble, really young.
It starts very young and itbuilds up where all these
mechanisms that god put in ourbodies to keep them healthy get
(27:54):
disrupted, and they getdisrupted for years and years
and years.
It's hard to fix it.
It doesn't fix overnight, butwe don't create health.
Health is the natural state ofthe body.
This is the.
You know the whole antibioticthing.
Well, the doctor, like I'mgoing to give you the pills to
keep your body healthy, becauseyour body doesn't know what it's
doing.
But your body cannot figurethis out.
(28:15):
You know, let's kick outbacteria we don't want, keep the
bacteria we do want.
Like, body can't, can't do thatright, so we're going to give
it a bunch of drugs because itdoesn't know how to stay healthy
.
The body knows how to stayhealthy on its own that no, no,
no disrupted the body is lacking, dr jay, sick mercury adjuvants
(28:40):
.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
It is absolutely lacking in that and craving that
right.
There's a lack of it in yourbody, so we're just going to go
ahead and put it in.
They're going to make your dogall well right, right, yep, yep,
that antibiotic deficiency.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
It's that amoxicillin deficiency yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
So let's talk a tad bit about elevated liver enzymes
, because I hear this a lot.
Right, so, dogs not eating wego in, we get these elevated
liver enzymes.
People freak out, but you knowwhat?
Um and I am taking this from anarticle that I found from dogs,
naturally, but um, we've talkedabout this many, many times.
(29:19):
Okay, what causes elevatedliver enzymes in dogs?
You want to know what?
The first um three things are,dr Jacek, I do.
You do, okay, medications,vaccine adjuvants that we were
just talking about and endocrinedisrupting chemicals, but they
(29:41):
also, um, kibble, kibble dietsright.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So they're saying what?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
what?
That's just wrong.
Um, so they're saying, you know, like people want to say, oh my
gosh, I'm feeding a raw dietand my dog's got these elevated
liver enzymes.
What's in that raw food?
Eating a raw diet and my dog'sgot these elevated liver enzymes
?
What's in that raw food?
No, no, no.
It's not in the medicationsthat we just gave the dogs, you
know, like the phenobarbitalmaybe that they're taking for
(30:09):
seizures or heartwormmedications or anti-inflammatory
drugs, right?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Not causing these elevatedliver enzymes Prednisone.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I've had clients come into me because their dog has
elevated liver enzymesPrednisone.
I've had clients come in to mebecause their dog has elevated
liver enzymes.
You know, of course I'm lookingat the records and everything
and like your dog's still onprednisone, yeah Well, did your
vet tell you that that'll raisethe liver enzymes?
Because the vet now wants to dolike a liver biopsy or
something because it got theseelevated enzymes.
Well, did the vet mention thatprednisone could maybe be
(30:41):
raising those enzymes?
Well, the vet mentioned thatprednisone could maybe be
raising those?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
oh no, they didn't mention that, you know.
So you want to talk aboutvaccine adjuvants?
Uh, in this article they weresaying the aluminum hydroxide
adjuvant adjuvant, adjuvant alsotriggers the motor neuron
autoimmunity issue seen in gulfwar syndrome sufferers.
Okay, and uh, this syndrome hasbeen found to be
(31:10):
indistinguishable from theautoimmune disease als um.
And and they said, the aluminumhydroxide also causes a loss of
mitochondria and cell death inmouse livers exposed to low
doses of the hep B vaccine.
So you want to talk about allof these adjuvants?
(31:31):
I mean, you could go on forevertalking about what they do,
right.
And then you come back to my dogneeds cakes, cookies and
chemicals in order to digest thefood.
And it's the question in thisarticle says can dog food cause
elevated liver enzymes?
And it's saying, yeah, thedangerous mycotoxins and
(31:54):
aflatoxins in kibble dog foodaffects the liver, causing
jaundice, weight loss, lethargyand the those toxins can be life
threatening.
Also the synthetic vitamins,minerals, pesticides, other
toxins.
You know your dog's body has towork really hard to detox that,
(32:16):
as you were talking about.
Right, they may not feel wellafter they're getting off all
that crap, getting on a raw diet.
And then people are like, oh,it's making my dog sick, and
then you push it right backtowards the stuff that is not
good for them, right?
And the question in thisarticle says so.
What do you feed a dog withhigh liver enzymes?
(32:37):
I don't know, dr Jasek.
What do you think it says?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Probably the same thing.
I'd recommend a healthy dog eat, because a healthy diet is a
healthy diet and the liver needshealthy food more than ever if
the liver enzymes are elevated.
Just a guess what they say.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
That's exactly right.
It says you can feed a dietthat supports the liver and
that's a fresh, whole food, raw,meat-based diet without
synthetic chemicals Right.
And if you want to support theliver, dr Jasek, you have great
herbs, things like milk, thistleand all these different types
of things that you can supportthat.
(33:14):
But I would say, before you godown this crazy, you know,
giving your dogs all thesethings and continuing to put the
, the major offenders in theirbody, switch the diet, pull the
toxins out, then let's have alook-see, right?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
and not only the chemicals, but for people that
have their dog on 20 or 30quote-unquote natural
supplements, like I think youcan overload I know you can
overload the liver with evennatural things.
Um, that you know.
Sure, they're herbs and they'reall this stuff, but you're
(33:51):
giving the body so much toprocess and the liver has to
work to process that stuff.
So if I have a client come inand their dog has elevated liver
enzymes and I look at theirsupplement list and it's like 20
long, I'm like anything that'snot medically necessary, like
there's some things don't justpull them off, cold turkey,
anything else we stop it.
(34:12):
Stop them, get them on ahealthy diet and then we recheck
those liver enzymes.
And a lot of people don't liketo hear that because they want
to know what's the next thingI'm going to add to get the
liver enzymes down.
People don't often think interms of what do I need to take
out?
It's like what else can I putin here?
Because I got these list of 10other supplements I was thinking
(34:32):
about buying.
Which ones do you think Ishould get now to support the
liver?
It's like no, no, no, we got totake stuff out.
We get a new baseline and thenwe see if the liver enzymes are
still elevated, okay, then wecan add in something specific
for liver support.
But a lot of times we're justoverloading the liver.
And then when we get thosethings, get those things out,
we're not overloading the liver.
(34:54):
And then we do more appropriatesupplementation, the liver
enzymes come down.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, I really do think that we have to take it
one step at a time and everystep that we take, give it some
space, breathe.
You know what I'm saying, likeit's, it's my, my sweet mom.
You know she, she's goingthrough some some back problems
and this and that some differentanxiety problems, and she
(35:27):
really is very wants somethingfor it right now.
And I'm like, mom, are youdoing the exercises?
Are you eating correctly?
Are we doing, you know?
Are we doing?
Know, are we doing?
Well, no, but you know, it'skind of like I just need if they
would just give me this thingover here, then I'd be okay.
(35:51):
And you know, watching familymembers that are going through
some major illnesses right now,when the body is going through a
healing phase, it's's painful,it can be painful and it can be
painful for a dog and you haveto work back up to health.
But a lot of Americans don'twant to do the work or to be
(36:18):
patient.
Right, and being patient iswork in itself, it just is right
.
It's being patient and kind ofwaiting and seeing what we're
going to do, and it's hard andit's frightening.
And I think the other thing too,dr Drasik, is there's a real
lack of trust in our medicalindustry, and rightly so.
(36:41):
They've earned that.
Okay, so they've earned that,okay, they've earned that.
And, um, I mean, just look atthis whole avian flu, look at
the covid, um, you know, so it's, it's tough and that's why I
really think that working withdr jacek's group aha vetcom, aha
(37:04):
, vetcom is very essential,effective, uh, for you as a pet
parent, because she can say thebig words and four or five
syllables, bring them on let mesee what I can do.
(37:26):
I can't do any of it, but I butI'm not here to dispel medical
advice, okay, but dr jason giz,okay.
So we, we at raw dog feedingcompany, what we're gonna give
you is how to feed your dogs andcats appropriately, and we're
going to give you thatinformation based on research
(37:49):
and experience and a whole bodyof evidence.
So I'm not going to be able tocompete with the vets that have
just come out of school and haveno experience.
I can't.
I can't compete with thatbecause they have a white coat
and, um, maybe I should havemade all of our raw dog food
(38:10):
shirts look like white coatsright, I should have you know.
But but I will say this you know, viore is a uh, I think it's
viore, I'm not even sure ifthat's the right one, but
they're making medical wear verycomfortable, very, very nice.
You know, they're making likeleggings and so they are taking
(38:33):
off the white coats.
I will say that.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I used to wear.
I used to wear those whitecoats, but you know what, when
you're working with pets,they're not white for about 10
minutes, and then you got hairand you got dirt and you got,
you get pee.
I mean, come on like I.
I gave that up because I meanthat's just not very practical.
Maybe if you're working onpeople and you don't like have
(38:57):
to actually touch your patientsstuff, um, maybe that, maybe
that works.
But, um, I have oneoccasionally if I want to, you
know, like pictures, but I don'teven do that anymore.
I just think natural is better.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Hey, why did you want to be a vet?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
You know, I I really I've really enjoyed learning
like how the body works.
I think that was that initialcuriosity Cause I'm like I was
like curious, like you know, howdoes this, you know this stuff
work?
I think it more started withlike that curiosity like how
does that body work, how doesthat stuff work?
And then I don't know, I wasalways more drawn to helping
(39:39):
animals more than people.
I think it's because, likepeople got brains, you know,
like they can figure stuff out.
Animals are subject to whattheir people think and what
their people decide.
I mean, put three dishes offood down for your dog, like
you're cooked like farmer's dogand you're raw in your kibble
and see what your dog wants toeat.
(39:59):
You know, maybe like, try that,eat all three.
The lab, they probably eat allthree, um, but they're not given
that choice.
You know they can't tell you,hey, when I eat that I just
don't, you know, I just don'tfeel good.
So so pets, it seems like, needmore, more help.
You know, getting getting theright care.
(40:20):
So being an advocate for pets,um, I don't know, was more
appealing to me than thanworking with people.
However, with what I finallyfigured out, those, all these
pets come attached to a human totalk to the people anyway right
, right and and and again.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I contend that many times when, when folks are
asking for advice, I just needto ask them what they want me to
say.
What do you want me to saytoday?
Here's the things that I'm notgoing to be able to agree with
you on, and I should just listit out.
Not going to be able to agreewith that, but I will help you.
Maybe you need to switch theblend.
(41:01):
Okay, that's the first thing.
Reduce toxins, not mixingkibble or crappy treats or
puppuccinos or, you know, milkor dairy products, um, and stop
putting toxins in them now youshould have a post this says
here's today's answers, just allthose things.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
If you want a different answer, I guess you're
gonna have to ask somebody else.
These are all the answers I gottoday.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, these are my answers today, tomorrow and the
next day they're probably allthe same every day these are my
answers Right?
Right, Slightly cook it if youwant.
I don't, that's fine.
I don't like to waste my money,I don't.
I don't want to waste my moneyor take away the minerals.
I do warm my dog food up.
I do just to room temperature.
(41:56):
And how do I do that?
Well, and I'm going to get somepushback on this too but I
actually weigh it out, I put itin a plastic bag, I put a bowl
of water there and I put theplastic bag in the water and
then I just turn it over acouple of times and it just kind
of takes that chill off.
It's not hot, so that you knowthe plastics leaching into the
dog food, because the peoplewill be saying it's not like
that.
That's just what I do.
(42:18):
And then I take the plastic bagand I just dump it out in the
bowl.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Well.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I'm even lazier than that.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
I'm even lazier than that.
I wait out and then I just takesome warm water and just splash
it on the food and make it alittle soupy.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
That's what I've done too.
I've done that too, and sothere's all different ways you
know to do it.
But, dr Jessica, I just this iswhat befuddles me in 25 years I
have not had a dog not be ableto digest raw food and not want
(42:57):
their food.
I've never, ever had thathappen.
Now I know that people say ithappens.
What I, I would love.
I wish you know, and I thinkthat Julianne Lee with the
Doored Beast, I mean, she hadthis amazing clinic right At one
time where it was like youcould come in for all of these
different services and I bet andshe said that she started kind
(43:21):
of seeing that she had tocounsel the humans was something
that she, but I bet if she hadthat kind of clinic she could.
To counsel the humans wassomething that she, but I bet if
, if, if she had that kind ofclinic, she could bring a dog in
.
Now, she wasn't in the dog foodbusiness, she was in the
supplement business.
But bring a dog in and bringthe food and then watch and let
me see what's happening and thenget a whole list of what was
happening in the in her, in theparent's house, which is what
(43:44):
she said.
I had to get this whole listright.
We had to go through this wholechecklist of you know what
could possibly be the issue.
But if you have a group, youhave a big group of dogs, of
animals, who are not havingtoxins go in their body.
No preventatives go in theirbody, no chemicals, no
(44:04):
synthetics go in their body.
No preventatives go in theirbody.
No chemicals, no synthetics goin their body.
Which group stops eating?
Right?
And if you're doing a rotationof proteins and and I still see
that people get really stuck onone protein, one blend, and then
their dogs are like I'm gettingsick of this blend.
They're not sick, they're sickand tired of that blend.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
So just switch it up Right.
And what people are putting in?
So these same people that aregiving these 20 different
supplements?
If you're putting a bunch ofthat stuff in the food, the dogs
don't get tired of eating allthat stuff.
I mean, I run into that even onherbs and things that I do
recommend.
When somebody comes back andsays my dog's not eating, are
(44:51):
you still putting herbs in thefood?
If the answer is yes, I saidjust stop putting the herbs in.
I want to know if the dog'seating its food on its own and
like 80% of the time they are.
They're just, they don't wantthe herbs and sometimes they get
tired of them.
Sometimes their body justdoesn't need them anymore.
I really think that.
You know cause I do a lot withChinese herbal medicine and
(45:14):
Chinese herbal medicine is aboutcorrecting imbalances in the
body.
So sometimes we do a blend.
For a while We've handled thatsituation the dog doesn't need
it anymore, or cat, and theydon't want it anymore.
Their body knows that theydon't need it anymore, so they
don't want it.
So.
But it's important to know like, so we'll pull that stuff out
(45:35):
and then if they go back toeating, fine, said, okay, it's
the herbs.
If we decide to continue those,then we find other ways of
giving them, hide them in atreat or something separate from
from the food.
But I think sometimes peopledon't don't think about that
either.
All this other stuff there thatthey're adding is a food.
It's that the food always getsblamed.
It's never the, it's never theother stuff.
(45:57):
Like who, who decided that?
That it's always the food'sfault?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
well, I have eight dogs, uh, in family members.
Okay, eight dogs that Iactually make the order for.
That means I know what they'reeating and it gets sent to them,
right, I pick it out and I sentit to them.
They never have issues.
Um, except I had one say well,you know, she's doing the
(46:30):
burpees and she's doing thiskind of stuff.
And I said let me look at whatelse you give them.
Well, we got these treats fromCostco.
I said turn the bag over.
How many ingredients are inthere?
Oh, okay, I was like no, no, no, and pull those out, let me
(46:50):
know if it changes.
Yep, certainly did change.
So I pretty much know, you know.
And then, of course, we haveall of our employees' dogs,
right?
So I'm watching all of this allthe time, listening to my
customers, obviously, takingquestions, asking that question
what are you doing?
What vaccines, whatpreventatives?
(47:11):
And I'm telling you, dr jaycee,nine times out of ten, nine and
a half times out of ten, it isthose other extenuating
circumstances that are having amajor bearing on their digestive
issues.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
So absolutely, absolutely.
I mean I, I would agree almostalways, maybe even 95 of the
time.
It's that now, you know,sometimes, you know, I see
cancer patients decline, sure,and they will lose their
appetite.
Yeah, that's like way end stageup until that point.
Then there's, there's somethingwe can work with and most dogs
(47:50):
will eat and love the, the, theraw food.
I, you know.
I do find you're talking aboutwarming it.
Um, because that's one of thefirst questions we ask.
If somebody says their dogisn't wanting to eat the food, I
see a lot of people that'lljust pull it out of the fridge
and just stick it in the bowlcold, and that can be hard on
digestion.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Because what about their teeth If their teeth are
something's wrong with theirteeth?
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, if it's an old dog with bad teeth, sure, but
that cold actually inhibits therelease of the enzymes in the
stomach, so you don't want tofeed you know something cold,
like you know, right out of theright out of the fridge.
So we talk a lot about warmingit or pour some warm water, like
(48:35):
warm bone broth too is anothergreat thing to pour it, because
that's real nourishing for thegut too.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Yeah, well, these are lots of good tips today for you
and our listeners, and leteverybody know about the Raw Dog
Food Truth Podcast.
Listen, we have a great Rumblepage as well, where you're going
to see the videos out there.
Make sure you follow us onFacebook and on X, because we
are there as well.
(49:02):
Dr Jasek's website is ahavetcom.
Ahavetcom.
She can certainly give you asecond opinion and alternatives
Okay, lots and lots ofalternatives to the I have to.
Okay, so get over there todayand get your dog on a species
appropriate diet.
(49:23):
Brian is there to help you.
He's a nutritionist and you canget into a free consult.
Even if you're not going to buyfrom me, I would say that we
can help you because we're inthe business of helping your
pets, so it's a free consult.
He'll help you.
Remember that if you're comingto us and you're feeding kibble,
(49:44):
that's the first thing thatwe're going to tell you Get off
the kibble, Okay, and I don'tcare if it's prescription food.
Somebody said to me the otherday well, we're feeding science
diet and I said, well, that'scalled science death in our
world.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
So just FYI, it's all kibble, even the good ones,
even the good ones.
I feed a really good.
I've never heard that a lot Ifeed kibble, but it's a really
good one.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
I I say what does that mean?
Yeah, what does that mean?
It costs more.
Okay, cost more.
I'm gonna increase my prices init.
All right, everybody, get overto raw dog food and companycom,
where your pet's health is ourbusiness and where what dr jacek
?
Speaker 2 (50:29):
friends, don't let friends feed, kibble y'all
that's right, come run thebubble.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
All right, dr jacek, take care, we'll see you soon.
Bye, bye, oh snap.
Find out how you can start yourdog on the road to health and
longevity.
Go to rawdogfoodandcompanycom,where friends don't let friends
feed kibble and where your pet'shealth is our business.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Just snap.
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