December 1, 2025 • 38 mins
We challenge the gap between what we eat for health and what we feed our dogs, making the case for fresh, species-appropriate diets over ultra-processed kibble. We break down labeling traps, palatability addiction, fasting benefits, and practical ways to question vet recommendations.
• harms of ultra-processed pet food on metabolism and inflammation
• why “complete and balanced” labeling misleads
• palatability engineering and food addiction in dogs
• fasting windows, autophagy, and lowered inflammatory load
• safe handling facts vs exaggerated bacteria fears
• rice, potatoes, and carb-heavy “prescription” diets questioned
• how to ask vets clear, respectful nutrition questions
• simple raw ratios and transition tactics for success
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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
Oh, snaps, snaps.
Well, hello, Rob Feeders.
I'm Didi Mercer Moppet, CEO of aRob Dog Feeding Company.
Where your pet's health is ourbusiness.
And we're friends like myfriend, Dr.
Judy Jasak.
Well, she didn't let friendsfeed kibble, but some of your
friends, they don't slap peopleupside the head for feeding
kibble, Dr.
Jasak.
Do they?
They gotta do it, and theyshould do it.
SPEAKER_00 (00:21):
They should, you know, it's it's this thing about
meeting people where they're at.
SPEAKER_02 (00:25):
No, I'm not.
I'm not.
If I meet you in a dark alleyand you're feeding kibble, I'm
gonna trip you.
Trip you.
Well, because we're becausewe're in it for the pets, right?
It's it's good for the pets.
It's always been about the pets,but let's talk about it on a
human side, okay?
Because I think that this iswhere people can really connect
(00:47):
the dots.
So let's just talk about for asecond, because I have really
been looking into how I can upmy own health.
And so obviously, the talk anddiscussion with any of these
doctors who are cardiologists orum people that deal with the
gallbladder or the liver, theytalk about what?
(01:08):
Processed foods.
Okay, that and and and so thequestion is how do processed
foods impact our health ashumans?
And I will tell you, Dr.
Jacek, there ain't nothing goodabout it.
I mean, because when you look atwhat's in processed foods, okay,
(01:30):
we're gonna talk about unhealthyfats, we're gonna talk about
sodium and sugars, okay?
So, what do processed foods doto human beings?
Well, they increase your bloodsugar, they spike your insulin,
they increase your risk of type2 diabetes, you get weight gain
(01:50):
and the fats, okay?
Let's just call it obesitybecause people don't like that
word fat, you get fatty liverdisease and you get chronic
inflammation.
And then chronic inflammationobviously is the gateway to
what?
Just down darn near everydisease out there.
So you tell me, Dr.
Jasek, if we as humans, okay,shouldn't eat processed foods,
(02:16):
how is it that we cannot seem toconnect the dots with an animal
that that has teeth that aredesigned to eat bones, fur, all
that kind of stuff, raw items.
What are we missing?
SPEAKER_00 (02:37):
Maybe we need to tell people, okay, if this is
stuff is so great, why don't youeat it for a week and see how
you feel?
Maybe then they change theirmind.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (02:50):
There's no way there is, I don't think there's a
well, there are a lot ofdoctors, but it let's just say
you go to um go to a doctor likeyou, okay, but a human doctor
like you.
They are never going to say,yeah, it's all right, just have
a little bit of processed foods.
(03:11):
You know, especially if you havehigh blood pressure, um, you
have um heart disease, or youhave any kind of you know,
bloating or digestive issues,which is exactly what we see
going to the vets all the time.
My dog has these poop issues, mydog has these skin issues, you
(03:32):
know.
Um, and yet, and yet, Dr.
JSIC, there isn't I uh eventhese vets, okay, even these
vets on the human side, theywould not sit down and tell
somebody, listen, I want you togo out and get you some packaged
food.
I want you to eat packaged food,you just add water to it, maybe
(03:55):
even microwave it if you want.
And I think you're gonna feellike a million bucks.
Who who says that?
Who says that?
SPEAKER_00 (04:02):
Even the even the marketing, even the the
marketing on some of thesecrappy foods, what do they say
on the label?
It's natural.
Kibbles and bits will havepictures of vegetables on it and
stuff because they know peopleknow that natural is better, but
people read the label and theydon't really think about what's
(04:24):
in it.
Yeah, it's it's interesting.
I think on the human side, youknow, there's so many different
diets at Atkins and carnivoreand vegan and vegetarian and all
of them.
But to your point, like I I'venever heard anybody talk about
any one of those diets, andthere's all these different
opinions.
None of them endorse packagedfood.
(04:44):
It they're all fresh food diets,and you can, you know, decide
what diet's best for you, orpeople recommend different
things, but they're all based onfresh food.
No, not one of those says, youknow, go go buy a box of fruit
loops and eat that for breakfastevery day, which is essentially
what people are feeding theirpets.
So what is the dis is it is itthat it's this negative thing
(05:09):
about raw food?
Is I mean, not that we thinkit's negative, but the negative
um press out there that peoplehear from the vet and
everything.
Is that so strong that it makespeople so afraid to leave the
kibble?
I I don't know.
It's a mystery to me.
SPEAKER_02 (05:28):
It it is such a mystery because we just can't
seem to look at an animal.
First of all, they animals don'ttell us how crappy they feel,
right?
Until they feel extremely bad,right?
But you you think about this,you have an animal that is
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eating a food that it was neverintended to eat, okay?
And and not only are they eatinga food that is packed with
preservatives, artificialsweeteners, cooling agents,
taste enhancers, emulsifiers,right?
Everything that disrupts the gutcauses them to have, you know,
the the extremely loose poops,the terrible skin, the terrible
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breath, the horrible teeth.
But it's also low in nutrientdensity.
Okay, so there's the the thethey have high calories, okay,
but processed foods, theseprocessed kibble diets, and I
would contend, Dr.
J-Z, a lot of the cooked diets,even, okay, um, are gonna be
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very low in vitamin, minerals,antioxidants, fiber.
Um, and this causes the immunesystem to be weaker and your dog
to be starving all the time.
SPEAKER_00 (06:47):
Right.
So they eat more and then theyget fat.
SPEAKER_02 (06:52):
I gotta tell you, I just I am so irritated, and I
have been forever with theDepartment of Ag, the labeling
requirements, the whole game,right?
The whole game drives me insaneon in the dog food world.
(07:13):
And the AAFCO, who we havetalked about forever, is not a
governing body.
That there's there's no one inthere that that probably has a
nutrition degree.
I would say these are peoplethat own certain companies that
want something to be sold intothe dog food.
(07:34):
All that to be said, there issuch a game out there.
We were talking about how you myou create a story, how you
cause people to be afraid.
And I just wanted to read yousomething really quick.
Um, when you're in a business,any business um that that sells
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a product, you have to registerthose products, and then you
have to go through labelingrequirements and you have to pay
for those, right?
It's all about money.
But what drives me insane in theraw dog food diet, okay, as you
guys have seen over the years,because you've had questions
(08:16):
about this, I certainly have hadquestions.
Why does it have to say forintermittent and supplemental
feeding only?
And Dogs Naturally, years ago,did a whole piece on that.
I mean, where they reallyrevealed why it has to say that,
and that's because um of the waythat they've done feeding
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trials, and they want people tothink you have to add all this
stuff to the food.
In a nutshell, it is basicallyif you don't adhere to adding
all of the preservatives to thefood, then you have to say, and
and the synthetics, you have tosay for intermittent and
supplemental feeding only.
Okay, all that to be said.
So we just had a uh, you know,we've got some new labels that
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are coming through.
This made me so mad because theysaid uh, I think on one of the
labels, we forgot to put thatstupid intermittent and
supplemental feeding, which bythe way, Dr.
Jasick, if you hear that, don'tyou think that that's just not a
food that's low density, that'sthat doesn't have the right
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balance of meat, bones, organ,and vegetables.
SPEAKER_00 (09:32):
Isn't that what it makes what it that's what it
implies for sure?
I can see where that why thatthrows people off.
It's not true, but I can seewhere that throws people, and
that's intentional, you know.
They don't want the raw food.
The government, well, they'repaid by these corp big
corporations.
I'm sure they get kickbacks fromthese big corporations selling
(09:55):
these kibble diets.
So they're essentially beingincentivized to take down the
raw raw food industry.
SPEAKER_02 (10:02):
Right.
So we're gonna first, you know,add the misleading for
intermittent and supplementalfeeding only.
And so, anyway, that got leftoff, submitted it again, had to
put that stupid statement onthere, and this is how they came
back.
Thank you for making thatrevision to the label so the
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consumer is not misled that theproduct is a complete feed for
dogs.
SPEAKER_00 (10:32):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (10:33):
I just I I I I want to sit these people down and
say, tell me what it is aboutultra-processed foods that is so
great for dogs and non-processedfoods that have meat, bones,
organ, and fat at the rightratios are so terrible.
What is it?
SPEAKER_00 (10:54):
Tell me, explain it to me.
Right, right.
Like it's the label.
For some reason, oh, we got theall these ingredients in the
label that supposedly makes itmakes it healthy.
Of course, the the truth of thematter is these people looking
at your labels, they don't evenknow.
They're just they don't knowanything about it.
They're just they're justfollowing the rules that they've
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been told to follow.
This is, you know, they don'task why.
They're just paid to do it acertain way, and and that's what
they do.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (11:24):
Again, it is intended.
Why else would you do it?
Intended to mislead.
To mislead, to cause fear.
SPEAKER_00 (11:34):
So it's but it's okay to mislead on on marketing
and say that foods are naturaland you know, the way nature
intended and all this BSmarketing on these
ultra-processed diets.
It's okay to mislead people thatway.
Like that's that's okay.
But telling them that a speciesappropriate diet that's exactly
what they're meant to eat, youknow, well, we can't let them
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think that that's complete andbalanced, you know, because that
would be misleading.
Right.
It's very bad backwards.
SPEAKER_02 (12:04):
It is so highly palatable food, okay, and that
is what they callultra-processed foods, right?
It's highly palatable so thatit's easy to overeat.
So why is it highly palatable?
Because there's so much um uhsugar, salt, fat, taste
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enhancers, as we call them, andum and and and so then we
overeat, um, we get blissed out,they call it being blissed out,
right?
These comfort foods, and thenyou would get this food
addiction, right?
And and so this is exactly whathappens in the dog food world.
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And then people say, Oh my gosh,my dog's not doing well.
I need to put them.
I've heard that a raw diet,because I have a neighbor whose
dog looks amazing, you know,that's what we hear.
And um, and then they say, Mydog won't eat the raw.
And I'm like, give your dogthree days.
Your dog has been totallyconned, totally conned into
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eating a diet that is gonnaabsolutely cause um high blood
pressure, heart disease,diabetes, you know, many types
of cancers, all that type ofstuff, just basically an early
death.
unknown (13:25):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (13:26):
But that's I think they are I think they are
literally addicted to it.
You know, they say in people,sugar is can be more addictive
than like cocaine or heroin,something.
It's it's highly, highlyaddictive.
And I think our pets literallyget addicted to it.
So they're waiting for theirnext fix.
It's like if you're a cocaineaddict and you know, somebody
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gives you a glass of milk,you're like, well, of course the
milk's better for that person,but what is the addict?
They want their hit of whatthey're addicted to.
So yeah, you gotta give them,you gotta give them some time.
Now, some dogs, you know, somepeople say, you know, yeah, I
tried the raw, now my dog won'teven touch that kibble stuff.
So we do hear that where the dogactually still knows.
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But I think those naturalinstincts get so damaged by
years on kibble andpharmaceuticals and too many
vaccines and all this stuff thatthey kind of lose that natural
inclination.
But I mean, I do think it comesback.
You just but I think it's hardfor people to tough it out and
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for somebody to watch their petgo even a day without eating.
Dog could go three days withouteating, no problem.
As long as they're drinking, yougotta stay hydrated, no problem.
And that's like when they talkabout fasting in people, how
that's cleansing, you know, whenthey talk about people going on
like a keto diet, which isbasically what our raw diets
are, you get rid of all theprocessed carbohydrates, that
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you should fast first and allowyour body to detox because you
get what they call the keto flu,because you have withdrawals
from all those carbohydrates.
People report on this all thetime.
So if the same thing goes onwith your dog, sure, they're not
going to feel good and they'regonna want the stuff they're
used, they're they're used toeating.
But I think people just have tobe tough.
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People can't stand when theirpets don't eat.
An hour later, they're offeringthem something else and
something else and somethingelse.
Like just let them not eat fortwo or three days and let their
bodies cleanse and and fast.
It's it probably would bereally, really good for them.
SPEAKER_02 (15:29):
It'd be great for them.
So I was listening to, and and Iam not gonna say his name right
because I believe he is fromIndia, but he's an insulin
doctor.
Okay, so he he talks about howdangerous this visceral fat is
that we have around our stomachareas, right?
(15:50):
And he said the fastest way todo that is to do this like
fasting.
And so he said, look, one of oneof the best ways is to do an 18
and six.
He's talking about it in people,but I was thinking about this
with Lazie because this is thisis one of the benefits of only
feeding your pet once a day.
(16:11):
Okay.
Um, but he was talking, and andhe has a great um, you can look
it up, they call him the insulindoctor.
Um, his name is Dr.
Prod or Pradip Gemides, okay.
J-A-M-N-A-D-E-S.
Um, the first name is Dr.
(16:33):
P-R-A-D-I-P, like prodip, theprodip.
Um, so anyway, he and as I waslistening to him, I thought this
makes so much sense for animals,right?
So, in in this talk that hedoes, he talks about
ultra-processed foods, he talksabout what it does to the brain,
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he talks about the horriblethings that it does to your body
and your kidney and your skin.
And um, and it so everything hesaid, you know, relayed not only
to humans, but it relayed overto our pets.
But anyway, so I decided, okay,I'm gonna start this 18 hours of
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no eating and six hours ofeating.
So I only eat now from noon tosix, right?
And then there's other things,you know, cut out the sugar.
He was like, You got to cutsugar out of your diet and
processed foods, right?
He's like, eat real food, eatreal food, and um, and um, so
anyway, I thought it was veryinteresting.
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It's a good listen for all ofyou pet parents out there for
your own health, but I dobelieve that once you hear that,
you will be able to connect thedots of why.
Why processed foods, and I don'tcare how much you pay for
kibble, guys, it is processed.
But he also said something else,Dr.
JC.
He he said when you blackenfood, like you blacken fish, or
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you go out and you um, you know,you you cook things at high
temperatures.
He said, You're releasingcarcinogens, which is another
reason why cooked foods for dogsis not healthy and not
necessary, right?
SPEAKER_00 (18:15):
Right.
And those and those kibbleingredients, like the wheat, the
corn, the soy, or thegrain-free.
I hear that too.
Well, but it's grain-free.
Okay, the lentils, the beans,the peas, all of that stuff, all
of those starches, and includingrice and potato, they all break
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down to sugar.
So, like we're talking aboutsugar, but you know, it's like
they're not gonna say sugar onthe label, they're gonna say all
these other ingredients, but allof these starches, when they get
in the body, they're broken downinto sugar.
And that's about 50% of mostkibble diets.
So, and especially when they'rehighly, highly processed at
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these ridiculously hightemperatures that kibble's
process at.
I don't know the exacttemperature, but it's really,
really high.
You they're already broken downinto their simple sugar.
Starch is a complex carbohydratemade up of little sugar
molecules.
And when you process it atreally high temperatures, it's
broken down into little sugarmolecules, and the body breaks
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it down into sugar.
The metabolic effects on thebody are exactly the same as
sugar.
So it's literally like justfeeding them a bowl of fruit
loops or a cat and crunch orsomething.
SPEAKER_02 (19:30):
The the the so think about how healthy, and I think
that it's easy for humans to seewhen they when they all practice
it in themselves, right?
So let's just say you took amonth and you said, all right,
I'm gonna do this 18 and 6, butI'm also going to cut out
alcohol, I'm gonna cut outprocessed foods, I'm gonna, I'm
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gonna just eat real foods.
Okay.
You can definitely see it inyour own health.
Hopefully, that will help youtake a look at what it can do
for your dogs.
And I will say that by feedingyour dog once a day, whether
that is at night or whetherthat's in the morning, um, these
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fasting periods, you know, theyshow that they lower the
inflammatory markers, right?
And that is why we see so manydogs just getting on a raw diet
where their inflammation goesdown, their joint pain, they can
now go upstairs or jump in a caror do things they weren't able
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to do before simply becausethey've stopped feeding the
sugar and all of the stuff thatyou just mentioned, um, and it
stops increasing theinflammation.
A raw diet reduces theinflammation.
That's the same thing it doesfor us when we're eating real
food and not processed food.
But the other super importantthing that I think is so amazing
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for people and pets is thatfasting triggers that that
cleanup process in your body,right?
They call it autophagy,autophagy, right?
So it goes in, it removes thosedamaged cells and proteins.
Um, and so it it it fastingwhere your body's not constantly
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digesting, you know, it helpsslower the aging process in you
and your pets, and it improvesyour cellular health.
It and there's so much more.
I mean, it does digestive,cognitive, um, your
cardiovascular, all of that.
And so when I understand this,and then I get this oh, you've
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got to put for intermittentsupplemental feeding on there
because you're gonna misleadyour customers into what?
Mislead them into giving themdogs, giving their dogs a
better.
I just it makes me so mad, Dr.
Chasey.
SPEAKER_00 (21:57):
I know, I know.
I hear you.
Me too, me too.
Because could because peoplehave this false sense of
security that this kibble, thesekibble diets are complete and
balanced, and they're everythingthat their pet needs, but raw is
like going out into the youknow, no man's land.
You know, you're just reallygoing out on a limb.
I was telling you about my cat.
What do animals eat in nature?
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My cat, I go outdoor cat, and Ido feed him raw.
I'm gonna be feeding him lessbecause he's really been eating
a lot of squirrels, and he willcatch, and he's just an average
size cat, maybe nine-pound cator something.
He brings up a full-sizesquirrel, brings it on our deck
because he likes to show.
He comes to the door, patiodoor, and shows us his prize,
and then he's got this littlecorner.
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He goes in there and he startsat the nose and he eats the
whole thing, the whole entirething, everything, all the the
skull, all the bones, thetoenails, everything except the
tail.
Even the poop, even eats thepoop.
Maybe that's good probiotic orsomething.
Eats everything, every same.
I mean, it it amazes me that andand this squirrel, you know,
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we're talking, you know, four orfive inches, it's a good size
squirrel.
He just chops it down, eats it.
SPEAKER_02 (23:12):
I said you've got to get that on a video.
I want to I need that on myself.
SPEAKER_00 (23:16):
And there's no government label on that
squirrel.
I haven't seen a one yes.
It comes up and it's it's got alittle collar on it says
complete and balanced.
I haven't seen it yet.
SPEAKER_02 (23:28):
You know, and I would, you know what this is
probably tragic, but I wouldlike to see how you're how the
cat actually kills the squirrel.
Does he do like what the bigcats do to the deer in the wild?
Does he grab it around thethroat and like puncture its
neck and then I've never seenhim actually kill one?
SPEAKER_00 (23:46):
I see him out there stalking, and he's like, he's so
patient.
I we have a perimeter fencearound our property that's got
like the four-inch squares.
And one time I saw him, youknow, because the grass grows up
along the fence line where hecan't mow, and he was like
halfway through the fence facingour neighbors.
Our neighbors just have this hayfield.
He was halfway through the fenceand just sitting there.
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And I'm sure there's littlecritters there's right after
they'd cut the hay, so thatstirs up all the little
critters, and and he'll sit inone spot for like an hour or
more.
You just see him just sittingand waiting for the right
opportunity.
But I have yet to see himactually kill something.
But I agree, it'd be interestingbecause he brought up a bunny
the other day, he could hardlycarry it, it was like half his
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size, and like he didn't finish,he didn't eat the whole bunny.
I think it was a little much,but he had to throw away part of
the bunny, but um, he couldbarely carry it up on the deck,
but he brings it up and he's allproud of it, and he flops around
on likes to play with them for alittle bit.
I mean first it like weirded meout, but I'm like, it's nature.
SPEAKER_02 (24:54):
It is, and if you if you watch the nature shows, I
bet your cat hunts just like thebig cats do.
SPEAKER_00 (25:02):
I'm sure he probably does.
They have to go because likethat bunny was big, he had to
kill that bunny really fastbecause they're fast, you know,
and just sheer body weight ofrunning away from him.
I mean, they don't have bigmouths, he didn't have big jaw
strength.
So they he's got to get in thereand nail it right away and crush
the wind.
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I'm sure he just goes right forthe throat because they're not,
you know, it's not like theygrab a leg.
Sometimes you'll see them in thewild, like, you know, the lions
will uh go after a zebra andlike grab a hind leg or
something and kind of take himdown that way, and then another
one will go for the throat.
There's never a mark on them,they're just they look perfect,
so he's gotta go, he's gotta bea good killer.
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My husband and I are like, don'tturn your back on him.
You know that he knows what he'sdoing, man.
SPEAKER_02 (25:52):
Right, you know, um the other thing about raw diets,
and I wanted to ask you aboutthis because it's just you know,
they talk about the bacteria.
But if you really start lookingat the bacteria, Dr.
JC, so I think you can make thecase that certainly um it's not
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any different than you handlinga steak, chicken, everybody's
getting ready to fix a turkey,they're gonna have their hands
inside that turkey's body, youknow, a raw turkey.
Are we really masking up,putting gloves on, and worried
about this bacteria that's goingto kill you?
(26:36):
Okay.
I think we can make a darn goodcase to say it isn't any
different.
I don't know why people thinkthat it is different.
It has been the thing that thatthey use to control and to scare
people.
But the other part, and this isthe one I wanted to ask you
about, was that they say, okay,but it can really hurt humans
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because they can shed in theirpoop salmonella and E.
coli and bacteria.
And I'm like, do you know whatthey shed in their poop when you
put those preventatives andvaccines in their body?
Yeah, right, exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (27:17):
How do you know what's in their poop when they
eat this kibble with all thisother crap in it?
Of course, I mean, there'salways bacteria in poop, and you
know, if they're not worriedabout it, just don't eat the
dog's poop.
Right.
I just throw it up put it up,thick it in a bag, and throw it
away.
SPEAKER_02 (27:33):
Right.
I I'm like, I just the the whenyou go deep enough into the
claims of what is sofrightening, right?
What is so frightening, it islaughable to me.
Yeah, because you can't reallymake a case for it.
SPEAKER_00 (27:54):
Or people, you know, like you said, people will bring
raw meat into their homes.
Most, most people, granted,there's some vegans and
vegetarians, but most peoplewill bring some meat into their
home.
It's the same stuff that's inthe dog food, yet those same
people, and I've heard of thishappening in vet clinics.
Somebody goes in and they sayyour dog's being fed raw, and
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they don't even have the rawfood there.
Just the fact that the dog ate araw meal and they're putting on
their gloves and their masksbecause they're like
contaminated.
You know, I we were joking aboutthat at one of our team
meetings, is that clients shouldgo in and ask the staff, do you
eat do you eat meat?
And say yes.
Well, would you please mask up?
(28:37):
Because I don't want you to hurtmy dog because you're spewing
bacteria from what you'reeating.
I mean, is that ridiculous?
Isn't that it's that have youever had sushi?
That's what we were talkingabout.
Ask them if they've ever eatensushi.
Oh, oh, please put your mask onbecause I'm sure you're spewing,
you know, bacteria.
SPEAKER_02 (28:56):
Well, the other thing that I was listening uh to
Dr.
Prajay, Prajib, Praj dip, uh,about was rice.
And and and he said, absolutelydo not eat rice.
Humans don't eat rice.
Why?
Same thing you and I have said.
He said it's full of arsenic.
(29:17):
Yeah, yeah, full of arsenic.
It's bad for you.
It has no, um, it has nothing.
And and yet, Dr.
JC, and yet our healthprofessionals for dogs, the
number one thing that they'regonna tell you to give your dog
when your dog has a stomachupset, boiled rice and chicken.
Chicken and rice, chicken andrice.
I wonder who started that.
(29:39):
Yeah.
I I don't know who started that.
And again, it it would be sointeresting, even if you could
stay off the the raw aspect withyour vet, and and and your vet
wants to put you your dog on aheels or one of their quote
(29:59):
unquote.
Prescription that aren'tprescription, they just say
prescription because that's abrand name misleading.
Look, I'm gonna have this thiswoman send out a thing said,
stop misleading your people.
That is prescription, butanyway, right?
Um, if they could just say, nowhelp me understand, Doctor.
(30:20):
Um, processed foods.
This is this is a processedfood, right?
Wouldn't you call thisultra-processed?
Because and then have yourdefinition, ultra-processed, you
know, synthetics and and the theunhealthy fats and all that.
How is unprocessed foods helpfulto my dog's health?
I'm just I'm I'm I'm confused.
I'm I'm curious.
But obviously, you know you wentto med school, right?
(30:42):
So help me understand that.
SPEAKER_00 (30:45):
Right.
Exactly, exactly.
And they're so highly trained innutrition, I'm sure they would
have a good answer.
No, what they say is I think youneed to talk to a nutritionist,
and there's very few outside ofNeatley's probably the only
person I've ever met that haslike a certification in
nutrition that actually reallyknows anything about nutrition.
(31:06):
Because they're all the again,they're high-carb diets.
They're like 30, 40 percentcarbohydrates.
I just cringe.
I look at these diets, and oh,like like we see a dog with
kidney values and liver valuesgoing up.
Oh, their diets are like 30 or40 percent potato.
Like, are you kidding me?
Where's your dog getting itsnutrition from?
You know, right, right.
SPEAKER_02 (31:27):
And and just I think if we have our ducks in a row,
okay, when we go in and we askthat question, explain to me how
ultra-processed food, and theymay not know what
ultra-processed is, so so getyour get your you know, your
(31:47):
definitions there,ultra-processed, right?
High heats, all these additives,these sort of things, right?
Not natural, it's in a bag, hasa bunch of labels, right?
Um, so how how is that?
How does that how does how doesthat affect my dog's gut or you
know, their the inflammation?
Or I I don't I I would love tosee how they could answer that.
SPEAKER_00 (32:10):
Keep the whole raw thing out of it, just ask him
about that, just start askingquestions.
And that's not like you know, Ithink people are kind of
intimidated to push back againstthe against the white coats, but
just ask questions.
It's your pet, you know, they'resupposed to be providing you
informed consent and educatingyou about their treatment
recommendations and theseprescription diets are not
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cheap.
So say, so explain to me howthis hydrolyzed soy protein is
is good for you know, good formy pet.
And you could go write down thethe ingredients.
And I bet you get down and theywon't even know what what is
this like beet pulp or whatever.
So like I read thoseingredients, like I don't even
(32:52):
know what that is.
What exactly is corn glutenmeal, Doctor?
Could you explain to me whatcorn gluten meal is and and why
that's good for my pet?
They'll be like, hang on just asecond, let me go call Hills and
ask them.
SPEAKER_02 (33:06):
Yeah, it just it, you know, here's the thing.
I wish that they would just say,Hey, we sell ultra-processed
foods.
Yes, um, it it has all thesepreservatives in it, but it's
convenient.
And they just left it at that,right?
SPEAKER_00 (33:26):
It's like going to the it's like going to the donut
shop, you know, instead ofhaving all those bags of food in
the vet clinic, just have allthe different flavors of donuts,
right?
SPEAKER_02 (33:34):
But I I mean a donut shop doesn't try to convince you
that it's they don't say thatthey're healthy, not sugary and
healthy.
It's like, come on.
Okay, right.
Why, why, why is it that we haveour hands tied as as raw dog
food companies um on labels?
(33:54):
We have to by force, by forcemislead people, because that
really is what it is forintermittent, intermittent and
supplemental feeding.
Totally suggests this isn't allyour dog needs.
Your dog needs all this other BSto be healthy.
SPEAKER_00 (34:15):
So, what makes it complete in their eyes?
Is it it's the is it themultivitamin?
Like if you put the vitamins andminerals, you put the synthetic
quote unquote multivitaminsupplement in there, this yes,
secret spray or whatever.
SPEAKER_02 (34:28):
It's the AA, yeah, it's the AAFCO standard, right?
Because they had to come outwith how do we create a dog food
that is void of every anythingthat's good for the dog, starts
off crappy, right?
Well, we have to put all thisstuff in there, we have to put
all these different syntheticsin there that will get you out
(34:50):
of having to put forintermittent and supplemental
feeding only, right?
And for years we were like,we're not doing that, and then
they started coming down reallyhard, and you could see how
things are changing and how lookat farmers farmer dogs, farmer's
(35:11):
dog, um, their theiradvertising.
Look at Dr.
Marty's advertising.
Look, you know, he's got Caesar,you know, and then you got Joe
Rogan doing farmer's dog.
So it people don't think aboutit.
They they they don't think, whywould a dog need cooked food
when they're created to eat raw?
(35:33):
I just think that they don'tbelieve they're created to eat
raw because if they thoughtthat, if they really thought
through it, um, that it's thewhole my dog has evolved.
Yeah, your dog has not evolvedto eat substandard food.
We have changed to feedconvenient foods and we have we
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appreciate the people that willback up our belief system.
SPEAKER_00 (35:59):
I mean, that's really what it is, right?
I mean, it's like, have weevolved?
I mean, to eat these processedfoods?
I mean, you're just saying thisdoctor is saying how unhealthy
processed foods, and we'retalking about how all these
human practitioners will say howunhealthy these processed foods
are, and that's the same as theas the kibble.
Have we evolved?
No, we're still healthier on thehunter-gatherer diet that our
(36:24):
way, way, way, way backancestors.
Hey, we haven't evolved to eat,you know, eat processed foods
either.
So, but they don't, I mean, theydon't use that claim in people.
They say no, processed foodsaren't good.
But in dogs, it's like, well,they've evolved to eat junk.
They're gunk be healthy.
How can you how can you evolveto eat something that's
(36:46):
inherently unhealthy and isgonna cause a whole host of
diseases?
You wipe out your species.
You know, evolution is typicallyabout species survival.
So why would a species evolve toeat something that's gonna kill
it?
Right, doesn't make any doesn'tmake any sense.
SPEAKER_02 (37:01):
Doesn't make any sense, zero, zero zero.
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I'm Didi Mercer Moppet, CEO of aRob Dog Feeding Company.
Where your pet's health is ourbusiness.
And we're friends like myfriend, Dr.
Judy Jasak.
Well, she didn't let friendsfeed kibble, but some of your
friends, they don't slap peopleupside the head for feeding
kibble, Dr.
Jasak.
Do they?
They gotta do it, and theyshould do it.
SPEAKER_00 (00:21):
They should, you know, it's it's this thing about
meeting people where they're at.
SPEAKER_02 (00:25):
No, I'm not.
I'm not.
If I meet you in a dark alleyand you're feeding kibble, I'm
gonna trip you.
Trip you.
Well, because we're becausewe're in it for the pets, right?
It's it's good for the pets.
It's always been about the pets,but let's talk about it on a
human side, okay?
Because I think that this iswhere people can really connect
(00:47):
the dots.
So let's just talk about for asecond, because I have really
been looking into how I can upmy own health.
And so obviously, the talk anddiscussion with any of these
doctors who are cardiologists orum people that deal with the
gallbladder or the liver, theytalk about what?
(01:08):
Processed foods.
Okay, that and and and so thequestion is how do processed
foods impact our health ashumans?
And I will tell you, Dr.
Jacek, there ain't nothing goodabout it.
I mean, because when you look atwhat's in processed foods, okay,
(01:30):
we're gonna talk about unhealthyfats, we're gonna talk about
sodium and sugars, okay?
So, what do processed foods doto human beings?
Well, they increase your bloodsugar, they spike your insulin,
they increase your risk of type2 diabetes, you get weight gain
(01:50):
and the fats, okay?
Let's just call it obesitybecause people don't like that
word fat, you get fatty liverdisease and you get chronic
inflammation.
And then chronic inflammationobviously is the gateway to
what?
Just down darn near everydisease out there.
So you tell me, Dr.
Jasek, if we as humans, okay,shouldn't eat processed foods,
(02:16):
how is it that we cannot seem toconnect the dots with an animal
that that has teeth that aredesigned to eat bones, fur, all
that kind of stuff, raw items.
What are we missing?
SPEAKER_00 (02:37):
Maybe we need to tell people, okay, if this is
stuff is so great, why don't youeat it for a week and see how
you feel?
Maybe then they change theirmind.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (02:50):
There's no way there is, I don't think there's a
well, there are a lot ofdoctors, but it let's just say
you go to um go to a doctor likeyou, okay, but a human doctor
like you.
They are never going to say,yeah, it's all right, just have
a little bit of processed foods.
(03:11):
You know, especially if you havehigh blood pressure, um, you
have um heart disease, or youhave any kind of you know,
bloating or digestive issues,which is exactly what we see
going to the vets all the time.
My dog has these poop issues, mydog has these skin issues, you
(03:32):
know.
Um, and yet, and yet, Dr.
JSIC, there isn't I uh eventhese vets, okay, even these
vets on the human side, theywould not sit down and tell
somebody, listen, I want you togo out and get you some packaged
food.
I want you to eat packaged food,you just add water to it, maybe
(03:55):
even microwave it if you want.
And I think you're gonna feellike a million bucks.
Who who says that?
Who says that?
SPEAKER_00 (04:02):
Even the even the marketing, even the the
marketing on some of thesecrappy foods, what do they say
on the label?
It's natural.
Kibbles and bits will havepictures of vegetables on it and
stuff because they know peopleknow that natural is better, but
people read the label and theydon't really think about what's
(04:24):
in it.
Yeah, it's it's interesting.
I think on the human side, youknow, there's so many different
diets at Atkins and carnivoreand vegan and vegetarian and all
of them.
But to your point, like I I'venever heard anybody talk about
any one of those diets, andthere's all these different
opinions.
None of them endorse packagedfood.
(04:44):
It they're all fresh food diets,and you can, you know, decide
what diet's best for you, orpeople recommend different
things, but they're all based onfresh food.
No, not one of those says, youknow, go go buy a box of fruit
loops and eat that for breakfastevery day, which is essentially
what people are feeding theirpets.
So what is the dis is it is itthat it's this negative thing
(05:09):
about raw food?
Is I mean, not that we thinkit's negative, but the negative
um press out there that peoplehear from the vet and
everything.
Is that so strong that it makespeople so afraid to leave the
kibble?
I I don't know.
It's a mystery to me.
SPEAKER_02 (05:28):
It it is such a mystery because we just can't
seem to look at an animal.
First of all, they animals don'ttell us how crappy they feel,
right?
Until they feel extremely bad,right?
But you you think about this,you have an animal that is
(05:48):
eating a food that it was neverintended to eat, okay?
And and not only are they eatinga food that is packed with
preservatives, artificialsweeteners, cooling agents,
taste enhancers, emulsifiers,right?
Everything that disrupts the gutcauses them to have, you know,
the the extremely loose poops,the terrible skin, the terrible
(06:13):
breath, the horrible teeth.
But it's also low in nutrientdensity.
Okay, so there's the the thethey have high calories, okay,
but processed foods, theseprocessed kibble diets, and I
would contend, Dr.
J-Z, a lot of the cooked diets,even, okay, um, are gonna be
(06:33):
very low in vitamin, minerals,antioxidants, fiber.
Um, and this causes the immunesystem to be weaker and your dog
to be starving all the time.
SPEAKER_00 (06:47):
Right.
So they eat more and then theyget fat.
SPEAKER_02 (06:52):
I gotta tell you, I just I am so irritated, and I
have been forever with theDepartment of Ag, the labeling
requirements, the whole game,right?
The whole game drives me insaneon in the dog food world.
(07:13):
And the AAFCO, who we havetalked about forever, is not a
governing body.
That there's there's no one inthere that that probably has a
nutrition degree.
I would say these are peoplethat own certain companies that
want something to be sold intothe dog food.
(07:34):
All that to be said, there issuch a game out there.
We were talking about how you myou create a story, how you
cause people to be afraid.
And I just wanted to read yousomething really quick.
Um, when you're in a business,any business um that that sells
(07:55):
a product, you have to registerthose products, and then you
have to go through labelingrequirements and you have to pay
for those, right?
It's all about money.
But what drives me insane in theraw dog food diet, okay, as you
guys have seen over the years,because you've had questions
(08:16):
about this, I certainly have hadquestions.
Why does it have to say forintermittent and supplemental
feeding only?
And Dogs Naturally, years ago,did a whole piece on that.
I mean, where they reallyrevealed why it has to say that,
and that's because um of the waythat they've done feeding
(08:43):
trials, and they want people tothink you have to add all this
stuff to the food.
In a nutshell, it is basicallyif you don't adhere to adding
all of the preservatives to thefood, then you have to say, and
and the synthetics, you have tosay for intermittent and
supplemental feeding only.
Okay, all that to be said.
So we just had a uh, you know,we've got some new labels that
(09:06):
are coming through.
This made me so mad because theysaid uh, I think on one of the
labels, we forgot to put thatstupid intermittent and
supplemental feeding, which bythe way, Dr.
Jasick, if you hear that, don'tyou think that that's just not a
food that's low density, that'sthat doesn't have the right
(09:30):
balance of meat, bones, organ,and vegetables.
SPEAKER_00 (09:32):
Isn't that what it makes what it that's what it
implies for sure?
I can see where that why thatthrows people off.
It's not true, but I can seewhere that throws people, and
that's intentional, you know.
They don't want the raw food.
The government, well, they'repaid by these corp big
corporations.
I'm sure they get kickbacks fromthese big corporations selling
(09:55):
these kibble diets.
So they're essentially beingincentivized to take down the
raw raw food industry.
SPEAKER_02 (10:02):
Right.
So we're gonna first, you know,add the misleading for
intermittent and supplementalfeeding only.
And so, anyway, that got leftoff, submitted it again, had to
put that stupid statement onthere, and this is how they came
back.
Thank you for making thatrevision to the label so the
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consumer is not misled that theproduct is a complete feed for
dogs.
SPEAKER_00 (10:32):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (10:33):
I just I I I I want to sit these people down and
say, tell me what it is aboutultra-processed foods that is so
great for dogs and non-processedfoods that have meat, bones,
organ, and fat at the rightratios are so terrible.
What is it?
SPEAKER_00 (10:54):
Tell me, explain it to me.
Right, right.
Like it's the label.
For some reason, oh, we got theall these ingredients in the
label that supposedly makes itmakes it healthy.
Of course, the the truth of thematter is these people looking
at your labels, they don't evenknow.
They're just they don't knowanything about it.
They're just they're justfollowing the rules that they've
(11:14):
been told to follow.
This is, you know, they don'task why.
They're just paid to do it acertain way, and and that's what
they do.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (11:24):
Again, it is intended.
Why else would you do it?
Intended to mislead.
To mislead, to cause fear.
SPEAKER_00 (11:34):
So it's but it's okay to mislead on on marketing
and say that foods are naturaland you know, the way nature
intended and all this BSmarketing on these
ultra-processed diets.
It's okay to mislead people thatway.
Like that's that's okay.
But telling them that a speciesappropriate diet that's exactly
what they're meant to eat, youknow, well, we can't let them
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think that that's complete andbalanced, you know, because that
would be misleading.
Right.
It's very bad backwards.
SPEAKER_02 (12:04):
It is so highly palatable food, okay, and that
is what they callultra-processed foods, right?
It's highly palatable so thatit's easy to overeat.
So why is it highly palatable?
Because there's so much um uhsugar, salt, fat, taste
(12:26):
enhancers, as we call them, andum and and and so then we
overeat, um, we get blissed out,they call it being blissed out,
right?
These comfort foods, and thenyou would get this food
addiction, right?
And and so this is exactly whathappens in the dog food world.
(12:48):
And then people say, Oh my gosh,my dog's not doing well.
I need to put them.
I've heard that a raw diet,because I have a neighbor whose
dog looks amazing, you know,that's what we hear.
And um, and then they say, Mydog won't eat the raw.
And I'm like, give your dogthree days.
Your dog has been totallyconned, totally conned into
(13:11):
eating a diet that is gonnaabsolutely cause um high blood
pressure, heart disease,diabetes, you know, many types
of cancers, all that type ofstuff, just basically an early
death.
unknown (13:25):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (13:26):
But that's I think they are I think they are
literally addicted to it.
You know, they say in people,sugar is can be more addictive
than like cocaine or heroin,something.
It's it's highly, highlyaddictive.
And I think our pets literallyget addicted to it.
So they're waiting for theirnext fix.
It's like if you're a cocaineaddict and you know, somebody
(13:46):
gives you a glass of milk,you're like, well, of course the
milk's better for that person,but what is the addict?
They want their hit of whatthey're addicted to.
So yeah, you gotta give them,you gotta give them some time.
Now, some dogs, you know, somepeople say, you know, yeah, I
tried the raw, now my dog won'teven touch that kibble stuff.
So we do hear that where the dogactually still knows.
(14:09):
But I think those naturalinstincts get so damaged by
years on kibble andpharmaceuticals and too many
vaccines and all this stuff thatthey kind of lose that natural
inclination.
But I mean, I do think it comesback.
You just but I think it's hardfor people to tough it out and
(14:30):
for somebody to watch their petgo even a day without eating.
Dog could go three days withouteating, no problem.
As long as they're drinking, yougotta stay hydrated, no problem.
And that's like when they talkabout fasting in people, how
that's cleansing, you know, whenthey talk about people going on
like a keto diet, which isbasically what our raw diets
are, you get rid of all theprocessed carbohydrates, that
(14:52):
you should fast first and allowyour body to detox because you
get what they call the keto flu,because you have withdrawals
from all those carbohydrates.
People report on this all thetime.
So if the same thing goes onwith your dog, sure, they're not
going to feel good and they'regonna want the stuff they're
used, they're they're used toeating.
But I think people just have tobe tough.
(15:14):
People can't stand when theirpets don't eat.
An hour later, they're offeringthem something else and
something else and somethingelse.
Like just let them not eat fortwo or three days and let their
bodies cleanse and and fast.
It's it probably would bereally, really good for them.
SPEAKER_02 (15:29):
It'd be great for them.
So I was listening to, and and Iam not gonna say his name right
because I believe he is fromIndia, but he's an insulin
doctor.
Okay, so he he talks about howdangerous this visceral fat is
that we have around our stomachareas, right?
(15:50):
And he said the fastest way todo that is to do this like
fasting.
And so he said, look, one of oneof the best ways is to do an 18
and six.
He's talking about it in people,but I was thinking about this
with Lazie because this is thisis one of the benefits of only
feeding your pet once a day.
(16:11):
Okay.
Um, but he was talking, and andhe has a great um, you can look
it up, they call him the insulindoctor.
Um, his name is Dr.
Prod or Pradip Gemides, okay.
J-A-M-N-A-D-E-S.
Um, the first name is Dr.
(16:33):
P-R-A-D-I-P, like prodip, theprodip.
Um, so anyway, he and as I waslistening to him, I thought this
makes so much sense for animals,right?
So, in in this talk that hedoes, he talks about
ultra-processed foods, he talksabout what it does to the brain,
(16:53):
he talks about the horriblethings that it does to your body
and your kidney and your skin.
And um, and it so everything hesaid, you know, relayed not only
to humans, but it relayed overto our pets.
But anyway, so I decided, okay,I'm gonna start this 18 hours of
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no eating and six hours ofeating.
So I only eat now from noon tosix, right?
And then there's other things,you know, cut out the sugar.
He was like, You got to cutsugar out of your diet and
processed foods, right?
He's like, eat real food, eatreal food, and um, and um, so
anyway, I thought it was veryinteresting.
(17:35):
It's a good listen for all ofyou pet parents out there for
your own health, but I dobelieve that once you hear that,
you will be able to connect thedots of why.
Why processed foods, and I don'tcare how much you pay for
kibble, guys, it is processed.
But he also said something else,Dr.
JC.
He he said when you blackenfood, like you blacken fish, or
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you go out and you um, you know,you you cook things at high
temperatures.
He said, You're releasingcarcinogens, which is another
reason why cooked foods for dogsis not healthy and not
necessary, right?
SPEAKER_00 (18:15):
Right.
And those and those kibbleingredients, like the wheat, the
corn, the soy, or thegrain-free.
I hear that too.
Well, but it's grain-free.
Okay, the lentils, the beans,the peas, all of that stuff, all
of those starches, and includingrice and potato, they all break
(18:35):
down to sugar.
So, like we're talking aboutsugar, but you know, it's like
they're not gonna say sugar onthe label, they're gonna say all
these other ingredients, but allof these starches, when they get
in the body, they're broken downinto sugar.
And that's about 50% of mostkibble diets.
So, and especially when they'rehighly, highly processed at
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these ridiculously hightemperatures that kibble's
process at.
I don't know the exacttemperature, but it's really,
really high.
You they're already broken downinto their simple sugar.
Starch is a complex carbohydratemade up of little sugar
molecules.
And when you process it atreally high temperatures, it's
broken down into little sugarmolecules, and the body breaks
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it down into sugar.
The metabolic effects on thebody are exactly the same as
sugar.
So it's literally like justfeeding them a bowl of fruit
loops or a cat and crunch orsomething.
SPEAKER_02 (19:30):
The the the so think about how healthy, and I think
that it's easy for humans to seewhen they when they all practice
it in themselves, right?
So let's just say you took amonth and you said, all right,
I'm gonna do this 18 and 6, butI'm also going to cut out
alcohol, I'm gonna cut outprocessed foods, I'm gonna, I'm
(19:54):
gonna just eat real foods.
Okay.
You can definitely see it inyour own health.
Hopefully, that will help youtake a look at what it can do
for your dogs.
And I will say that by feedingyour dog once a day, whether
that is at night or whetherthat's in the morning, um, these
(20:15):
fasting periods, you know, theyshow that they lower the
inflammatory markers, right?
And that is why we see so manydogs just getting on a raw diet
where their inflammation goesdown, their joint pain, they can
now go upstairs or jump in a caror do things they weren't able
(20:36):
to do before simply becausethey've stopped feeding the
sugar and all of the stuff thatyou just mentioned, um, and it
stops increasing theinflammation.
A raw diet reduces theinflammation.
That's the same thing it doesfor us when we're eating real
food and not processed food.
But the other super importantthing that I think is so amazing
(20:57):
for people and pets is thatfasting triggers that that
cleanup process in your body,right?
They call it autophagy,autophagy, right?
So it goes in, it removes thosedamaged cells and proteins.
Um, and so it it it fastingwhere your body's not constantly
(21:18):
digesting, you know, it helpsslower the aging process in you
and your pets, and it improvesyour cellular health.
It and there's so much more.
I mean, it does digestive,cognitive, um, your
cardiovascular, all of that.
And so when I understand this,and then I get this oh, you've
(21:44):
got to put for intermittentsupplemental feeding on there
because you're gonna misleadyour customers into what?
Mislead them into giving themdogs, giving their dogs a
better.
I just it makes me so mad, Dr.
Chasey.
SPEAKER_00 (21:57):
I know, I know.
I hear you.
Me too, me too.
Because could because peoplehave this false sense of
security that this kibble, thesekibble diets are complete and
balanced, and they're everythingthat their pet needs, but raw is
like going out into the youknow, no man's land.
You know, you're just reallygoing out on a limb.
I was telling you about my cat.
What do animals eat in nature?
(22:20):
My cat, I go outdoor cat, and Ido feed him raw.
I'm gonna be feeding him lessbecause he's really been eating
a lot of squirrels, and he willcatch, and he's just an average
size cat, maybe nine-pound cator something.
He brings up a full-sizesquirrel, brings it on our deck
because he likes to show.
He comes to the door, patiodoor, and shows us his prize,
and then he's got this littlecorner.
(22:41):
He goes in there and he startsat the nose and he eats the
whole thing, the whole entirething, everything, all the the
skull, all the bones, thetoenails, everything except the
tail.
Even the poop, even eats thepoop.
Maybe that's good probiotic orsomething.
Eats everything, every same.
I mean, it it amazes me that andand this squirrel, you know,
(23:05):
we're talking, you know, four orfive inches, it's a good size
squirrel.
He just chops it down, eats it.
SPEAKER_02 (23:12):
I said you've got to get that on a video.
I want to I need that on myself.
SPEAKER_00 (23:16):
And there's no government label on that
squirrel.
I haven't seen a one yes.
It comes up and it's it's got alittle collar on it says
complete and balanced.
I haven't seen it yet.
SPEAKER_02 (23:28):
You know, and I would, you know what this is
probably tragic, but I wouldlike to see how you're how the
cat actually kills the squirrel.
Does he do like what the bigcats do to the deer in the wild?
Does he grab it around thethroat and like puncture its
neck and then I've never seenhim actually kill one?
SPEAKER_00 (23:46):
I see him out there stalking, and he's like, he's so
patient.
I we have a perimeter fencearound our property that's got
like the four-inch squares.
And one time I saw him, youknow, because the grass grows up
along the fence line where hecan't mow, and he was like
halfway through the fence facingour neighbors.
Our neighbors just have this hayfield.
He was halfway through the fenceand just sitting there.
(24:09):
And I'm sure there's littlecritters there's right after
they'd cut the hay, so thatstirs up all the little
critters, and and he'll sit inone spot for like an hour or
more.
You just see him just sittingand waiting for the right
opportunity.
But I have yet to see himactually kill something.
But I agree, it'd be interestingbecause he brought up a bunny
the other day, he could hardlycarry it, it was like half his
(24:32):
size, and like he didn't finish,he didn't eat the whole bunny.
I think it was a little much,but he had to throw away part of
the bunny, but um, he couldbarely carry it up on the deck,
but he brings it up and he's allproud of it, and he flops around
on likes to play with them for alittle bit.
I mean first it like weirded meout, but I'm like, it's nature.
SPEAKER_02 (24:54):
It is, and if you if you watch the nature shows, I
bet your cat hunts just like thebig cats do.
SPEAKER_00 (25:02):
I'm sure he probably does.
They have to go because likethat bunny was big, he had to
kill that bunny really fastbecause they're fast, you know,
and just sheer body weight ofrunning away from him.
I mean, they don't have bigmouths, he didn't have big jaw
strength.
So they he's got to get in thereand nail it right away and crush
the wind.
(25:23):
I'm sure he just goes right forthe throat because they're not,
you know, it's not like theygrab a leg.
Sometimes you'll see them in thewild, like, you know, the lions
will uh go after a zebra andlike grab a hind leg or
something and kind of take himdown that way, and then another
one will go for the throat.
There's never a mark on them,they're just they look perfect,
so he's gotta go, he's gotta bea good killer.
(25:45):
My husband and I are like, don'tturn your back on him.
You know that he knows what he'sdoing, man.
SPEAKER_02 (25:52):
Right, you know, um the other thing about raw diets,
and I wanted to ask you aboutthis because it's just you know,
they talk about the bacteria.
But if you really start lookingat the bacteria, Dr.
JC, so I think you can make thecase that certainly um it's not
(26:15):
any different than you handlinga steak, chicken, everybody's
getting ready to fix a turkey,they're gonna have their hands
inside that turkey's body, youknow, a raw turkey.
Are we really masking up,putting gloves on, and worried
about this bacteria that's goingto kill you?
(26:36):
Okay.
I think we can make a darn goodcase to say it isn't any
different.
I don't know why people thinkthat it is different.
It has been the thing that thatthey use to control and to scare
people.
But the other part, and this isthe one I wanted to ask you
about, was that they say, okay,but it can really hurt humans
(26:58):
because they can shed in theirpoop salmonella and E.
coli and bacteria.
And I'm like, do you know whatthey shed in their poop when you
put those preventatives andvaccines in their body?
Yeah, right, exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (27:17):
How do you know what's in their poop when they
eat this kibble with all thisother crap in it?
Of course, I mean, there'salways bacteria in poop, and you
know, if they're not worriedabout it, just don't eat the
dog's poop.
Right.
I just throw it up put it up,thick it in a bag, and throw it
away.
SPEAKER_02 (27:33):
Right.
I I'm like, I just the the whenyou go deep enough into the
claims of what is sofrightening, right?
What is so frightening, it islaughable to me.
Yeah, because you can't reallymake a case for it.
SPEAKER_00 (27:54):
Or people, you know, like you said, people will bring
raw meat into their homes.
Most, most people, granted,there's some vegans and
vegetarians, but most peoplewill bring some meat into their
home.
It's the same stuff that's inthe dog food, yet those same
people, and I've heard of thishappening in vet clinics.
Somebody goes in and they sayyour dog's being fed raw, and
(28:15):
they don't even have the rawfood there.
Just the fact that the dog ate araw meal and they're putting on
their gloves and their masksbecause they're like
contaminated.
You know, I we were joking aboutthat at one of our team
meetings, is that clients shouldgo in and ask the staff, do you
eat do you eat meat?
And say yes.
Well, would you please mask up?
(28:37):
Because I don't want you to hurtmy dog because you're spewing
bacteria from what you'reeating.
I mean, is that ridiculous?
Isn't that it's that have youever had sushi?
That's what we were talkingabout.
Ask them if they've ever eatensushi.
Oh, oh, please put your mask onbecause I'm sure you're spewing,
you know, bacteria.
SPEAKER_02 (28:56):
Well, the other thing that I was listening uh to
Dr.
Prajay, Prajib, Praj dip, uh,about was rice.
And and and he said, absolutelydo not eat rice.
Humans don't eat rice.
Why?
Same thing you and I have said.
He said it's full of arsenic.
(29:17):
Yeah, yeah, full of arsenic.
It's bad for you.
It has no, um, it has nothing.
And and yet, Dr.
JC, and yet our healthprofessionals for dogs, the
number one thing that they'regonna tell you to give your dog
when your dog has a stomachupset, boiled rice and chicken.
Chicken and rice, chicken andrice.
I wonder who started that.
(29:39):
Yeah.
I I don't know who started that.
And again, it it would be sointeresting, even if you could
stay off the the raw aspect withyour vet, and and and your vet
wants to put you your dog on aheels or one of their quote
(29:59):
unquote.
Prescription that aren'tprescription, they just say
prescription because that's abrand name misleading.
Look, I'm gonna have this thiswoman send out a thing said,
stop misleading your people.
That is prescription, butanyway, right?
Um, if they could just say, nowhelp me understand, Doctor.
(30:20):
Um, processed foods.
This is this is a processedfood, right?
Wouldn't you call thisultra-processed?
Because and then have yourdefinition, ultra-processed, you
know, synthetics and and the theunhealthy fats and all that.
How is unprocessed foods helpfulto my dog's health?
I'm just I'm I'm I'm confused.
I'm I'm curious.
But obviously, you know you wentto med school, right?
(30:42):
So help me understand that.
SPEAKER_00 (30:45):
Right.
Exactly, exactly.
And they're so highly trained innutrition, I'm sure they would
have a good answer.
No, what they say is I think youneed to talk to a nutritionist,
and there's very few outside ofNeatley's probably the only
person I've ever met that haslike a certification in
nutrition that actually reallyknows anything about nutrition.
(31:06):
Because they're all the again,they're high-carb diets.
They're like 30, 40 percentcarbohydrates.
I just cringe.
I look at these diets, and oh,like like we see a dog with
kidney values and liver valuesgoing up.
Oh, their diets are like 30 or40 percent potato.
Like, are you kidding me?
Where's your dog getting itsnutrition from?
You know, right, right.
SPEAKER_02 (31:27):
And and just I think if we have our ducks in a row,
okay, when we go in and we askthat question, explain to me how
ultra-processed food, and theymay not know what
ultra-processed is, so so getyour get your you know, your
(31:47):
definitions there,ultra-processed, right?
High heats, all these additives,these sort of things, right?
Not natural, it's in a bag, hasa bunch of labels, right?
Um, so how how is that?
How does that how does how doesthat affect my dog's gut or you
know, their the inflammation?
Or I I don't I I would love tosee how they could answer that.
SPEAKER_00 (32:10):
Keep the whole raw thing out of it, just ask him
about that, just start askingquestions.
And that's not like you know, Ithink people are kind of
intimidated to push back againstthe against the white coats, but
just ask questions.
It's your pet, you know, they'resupposed to be providing you
informed consent and educatingyou about their treatment
recommendations and theseprescription diets are not
(32:31):
cheap.
So say, so explain to me howthis hydrolyzed soy protein is
is good for you know, good formy pet.
And you could go write down thethe ingredients.
And I bet you get down and theywon't even know what what is
this like beet pulp or whatever.
So like I read thoseingredients, like I don't even
(32:52):
know what that is.
What exactly is corn glutenmeal, Doctor?
Could you explain to me whatcorn gluten meal is and and why
that's good for my pet?
They'll be like, hang on just asecond, let me go call Hills and
ask them.
SPEAKER_02 (33:06):
Yeah, it just it, you know, here's the thing.
I wish that they would just say,Hey, we sell ultra-processed
foods.
Yes, um, it it has all thesepreservatives in it, but it's
convenient.
And they just left it at that,right?
SPEAKER_00 (33:26):
It's like going to the it's like going to the donut
shop, you know, instead ofhaving all those bags of food in
the vet clinic, just have allthe different flavors of donuts,
right?
SPEAKER_02 (33:34):
But I I mean a donut shop doesn't try to convince you
that it's they don't say thatthey're healthy, not sugary and
healthy.
It's like, come on.
Okay, right.
Why, why, why is it that we haveour hands tied as as raw dog
food companies um on labels?
(33:54):
We have to by force, by forcemislead people, because that
really is what it is forintermittent, intermittent and
supplemental feeding.
Totally suggests this isn't allyour dog needs.
Your dog needs all this other BSto be healthy.
SPEAKER_00 (34:15):
So, what makes it complete in their eyes?
Is it it's the is it themultivitamin?
Like if you put the vitamins andminerals, you put the synthetic
quote unquote multivitaminsupplement in there, this yes,
secret spray or whatever.
SPEAKER_02 (34:28):
It's the AA, yeah, it's the AAFCO standard, right?
Because they had to come outwith how do we create a dog food
that is void of every anythingthat's good for the dog, starts
off crappy, right?
Well, we have to put all thisstuff in there, we have to put
all these different syntheticsin there that will get you out
(34:50):
of having to put forintermittent and supplemental
feeding only, right?
And for years we were like,we're not doing that, and then
they started coming down reallyhard, and you could see how
things are changing and how lookat farmers farmer dogs, farmer's
(35:11):
dog, um, their theiradvertising.
Look at Dr.
Marty's advertising.
Look, you know, he's got Caesar,you know, and then you got Joe
Rogan doing farmer's dog.
So it people don't think aboutit.
They they they don't think, whywould a dog need cooked food
when they're created to eat raw?
(35:33):
I just think that they don'tbelieve they're created to eat
raw because if they thoughtthat, if they really thought
through it, um, that it's thewhole my dog has evolved.
Yeah, your dog has not evolvedto eat substandard food.
We have changed to feedconvenient foods and we have we
(35:55):
appreciate the people that willback up our belief system.
SPEAKER_00 (35:59):
I mean, that's really what it is, right?
I mean, it's like, have weevolved?
I mean, to eat these processedfoods?
I mean, you're just saying thisdoctor is saying how unhealthy
processed foods, and we'retalking about how all these
human practitioners will say howunhealthy these processed foods
are, and that's the same as theas the kibble.
Have we evolved?
No, we're still healthier on thehunter-gatherer diet that our
(36:24):
way, way, way, way backancestors.
Hey, we haven't evolved to eat,you know, eat processed foods
either.
So, but they don't, I mean, theydon't use that claim in people.
They say no, processed foodsaren't good.
But in dogs, it's like, well,they've evolved to eat junk.
They're gunk be healthy.
How can you how can you evolveto eat something that's
(36:46):
inherently unhealthy and isgonna cause a whole host of
diseases?
You wipe out your species.
You know, evolution is typicallyabout species survival.
So why would a species evolve toeat something that's gonna kill
it?
Right, doesn't make any doesn'tmake any sense.
SPEAKER_02 (37:01):
Doesn't make any sense, zero, zero zero.
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