August 8, 2025 • 30 mins
Something alarming is happening to our pets. Veterinarians across the country are reporting unprecedented levels of chronic illness, cancer, and behavioral issues—even in very young animals. What's behind this troubling trend?
DeDe Murcer-Moffett and Dr. Judy Jasek dive deep into Colorado's controversial new pet vaccine requirements and what they mean for health-conscious pet parents. Following an alleged rabies outbreak involving rescue puppies, Colorado now mandates rabies, distemper, and parvovirus vaccinations for pets visiting groomers, boarding facilities, and shelters. But our hosts raise serious questions about this "outbreak" and whether it's being used to justify pushing more vaccines on our companion animals.
"I see so many sick and unhealthy pets. I have never seen this many in my career," reports one chiropractor for pets quoted in the episode. Most disturbing is the rising incidence of cancer in extremely young dogs—as young as 18 months—something virtually unheard of in previous generations, regardless of diet quality. As Dr. Jasek points out, "An 18-month-old dog could eat Old Roy and not get cancer at that age." So what's changed?
The financial implications are equally concerning. With veterinary bills easily running into thousands of dollars, many families living paycheck to paycheck face impossible choices when their pets develop chronic conditions. This economic pressure often leads to heartbreaking decisions to euthanize or relinquish beloved pets.
For pet parents seeking alternatives, the episode explores options including medical exemptions (available with documented health concerns), finding vaccine-free service providers, and most importantly, building foundational health through proper nutrition. Both hosts passionately advocate for raw feeding as the cornerstone of pet wellness, noting the dramatic differences they've observed between pets on processed foods versus natural diets.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh snap.
Well, hello Raw Feeders.
I'm DeeDee Mercer-Moffitt, ceoof Raw Dog Food Company.
We are PetSouth as our business, and we're my friend Dr Judy
Jasik.
Oh my God, she doesn't letfriends feed kibble, do you?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Nope, nope, not in Tennessee, not even in our new
house in Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I know how are you loving it?
And I want to hear about thetransition of the kitties.
How did they transition to thisnew place?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'll tell you what one of my kitties just about
gave me a heart attack, becauseafter we were here for like two
days and then he was gone for aday and and I went over to talk
to the neighbors who feed Kmel,you know.
But you know well, we'll workon that later, but right, not
(00:51):
going to lecture them, you knowthe first time, but anyway, yeah
, so I got up one morning thiswas a couple of mornings ago and
Oscar was gone and I thoughtwell, I wouldn't expect him to
wander too far.
They're getting used to new,they're outdoor kitties, new
like hunting grounds and stuffand Chester was staying pretty
close in and then he was gone.
He was gone all day and I wentover.
(01:11):
I hadn't met the neighbor yet.
I went over to introduce myselfand let her know that I had a
kitty around.
If she saw him he was mine andeverything.
And then she's telling me aboutthe coyotes here.
But like, well, we had coyotesat our old place and foxes.
So I figured these cats arepretty savvy, right, they know
what to look for and run uptrees and all that stuff.
(01:33):
But then didn't show up fordinner and I'm just like I was
upset because I'd moved the game, made the decision to move the
kitties and I'm feeling like, oh, I'm responsible, and you know
I mean we're.
I made the decision to move thekitties.
I'm feeling like I'mresponsible, we're exhausted for
moving and everything.
I was upset about it.
The next morning he showed up.
He knows where the good food is, he knows where the food is.
(01:56):
He's like I can eat good and Idon't have to hunt for it.
That's pretty cool.
Why would I want to leave that?
I don't know if he wasn'tlooking for something familiar
or just went hunting and got to.
Sorry, I mean, who knows?
I wish they had a little cameraon to get see where, see where
they go.
But you know they did.
Well, I had a big, a big cratethat I put them in out on the
(02:19):
deck while we were actuallyunpacking and then I let them
out and put their food down andthey they just been, they just
been hanging out.
So I guess they're doing okay.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I mean, that was that was about a three hour drive
for for you guys to go from yourplace to this new place, right?
So the cats, it wasn't a long,long drawn out thing for them.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It wasn't too bad.
I stuck them in the carrier andI gave them just each, just
like a few drops of CBD.
I thought maybe that would takeit, but they did fine.
Halfway through the trip theywere sound asleep.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
So about that.
Did you actually open up theirmouth and put the CBD in, or
would they actually lick it up?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, no, I well, I just kind of like part picked up
the lip and just put it on thegums like on the outside, just
gets the mucous membranes there,and just did like a couple
drops because it was a prettystrong concentration.
So I just did a couple dropsand I I was amazed at how well
they did because I did not wantto listen to cats like yowling
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you know how cats yell whenthey're stressed I did not want
to listen to that for threehours, but they did fine.
I listened to.
I like Westerns, I watch, likeWestern movies and stuff, and I
listened to audiobooks fromLouis L'Amour.
He's, like you know, westernauthor, you know, and and I
(03:41):
really like it's just easy, know, like you know, it's like I
don't want something I gottalike hyper focus on, but if you
get involved in a story itpasses the time, you know.
So I thought, well, maybe theyjust liked listening to they
liked it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
They liked it too, of course it was, must have been,
a soothing voice yeah, just likelike the voice and stuff like
that.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So so, yeah.
So I mean it's, it's all good.
I mean I mean it's it's, youknow, disorienting and getting
you know used to everything, buthonestly, the logistics of the
move couldn't have gone anybetter.
You know, I mean the truck.
I'd never driven a 26 foottruck before, but that went okay
(04:23):
.
I was glad to be done withdoing that driven a 26 foot
truck before, but that went okay.
I was glad to be done withdoing that.
But you know it, it went okay.
Just all.
It just all went okay.
It all fell into place andwe're happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
So awesome, and you're still here on the podcast
, so there we go.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Isn't that the amazing thing about podcasts
Like you can just wherever youare there's this little know.
I just log into the same placeand there's Deedee.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Right, because I'm back in Colorado for a while.
So we'll be heading back out tothe Arizona area, but we are
back in Colorado and it'sawesome.
We've got lots of new thingscoming up for the business.
We're going to have thesesubscription models that are
going to take place.
We're going to have thesesubscription models that are
going to take place.
We're going to have a new um,new theme coming up, and so,
(05:08):
yeah, we got a lot of stuffgoing on.
But you know what I don't like,dr jacek, is this new pet
vaccine requirement here incolorado shelters for the
shelters, the groomers and theborders, and you know why that
they're doing this, which it'scrazy to me.
(05:29):
So the changes are in responseto that.
2024, and I'm putting my handsup and doing air quotes rabies
exposure involving that litterof puppies brought in from Texas
, moms and mutts, uh, a Coloradorescue called MAMCA.
Now, this is what irritates thesphincter out of me is that
(05:55):
there really wasn't this rabiesoutbreak, right, there wasn't.
No, where was the?
So here's what they say um, newvaccine requirements will take
effect tuesday.
Now, this was.
This came out july 15th.
Okay, but it it took effect injuly for colorado shelters,
(06:18):
groomers and borders nearly oneyear.
And then they underlined itafter a rabies outbreak
involving a rescue and, to myknowledge, dr jayceek, they cut
the heads off of every one ofthese little puppies and didn't
find that any of them had rabies.
So where is the rabies outbreak?
(06:39):
Where is it?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
yeah, yeah, it's it's , it's.
And those puppies came fromTexas.
They didn't even come fromColorado and they didn't go
anywhere.
So even say they had rabies,which we don't even believe
exists at all, but say they did,they never left anywhere, they
were in their foster home andone of them got sick and and it
(07:03):
was an exposure to a skunk, Ithink, or something wasn't there
in Texas or something that theycould never even verify the
story.
But the puppies never wentanywhere.
But you know, I'm so cynicalthese days that I'm just
convinced they wanted.
They wanted to change thesevaccine laws, which I'm not sure
why.
It's just to sell more vaccines, kill off more pets, create
(07:26):
more chronic illness.
I mean, there's no healthbenefit to these vaccines
whatsoever, but it seems likethey create a story like that.
So then they have a have areason to require vaccines.
Where have we heard that before?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Did they do?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
that to people here a few years back.
You know, like you, know, why Idon't.
I don't know what the agenda isto vaccinate all these pets,
but it is going to bedevastating.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, here's the thing.
I just took Lazi over to DrAndy to have her adjusted, lazi
over to Dr Andy to have heradjusted.
And we were talking about thestate of health of pets and she
said DeeDee, I see so many sickand unhealthy pets.
(08:16):
I have never seen this many inmy career.
And she said it's devastating.
And she said I don't think it'sgoing to stop, I think we're
going to have sicker and sickerand sicker pets.
And you know they euthanized 11of those puppies, 11.
And do they come out and sayhere's how many of them have it?
(08:40):
You know what they say in thiswhole thing and we were a little
bit closer to this situationthan this article but they said
that you know the incubationperiod, you know it could be
weeks for rabies and it wasn'tuntil the puppies had already
been adopted that they startedshowing symptoms.
Okay, what symptoms?
(09:03):
And what do those symptoms looklike when something else is
going on right?
Had they had, you know, allthese other type of toxic inputs
into their bodies?
What kind of foods were beingfed to these dogs?
And there was.
You know who really had rabies?
(09:26):
Who, yeah, which?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
ones.
I think one of the puppies, ifI'm remembering correctly,
showed like neurologic signs orsome kind or had a seizure or
something.
Oh my God, well, you can betyour bottom dollar.
They treated all these puppieswith flea and tick preventatives
.
Coming from Texas, you knowthey were going to wallop them
with all that.
Well, those are no neurotoxins.
You know, seizures are a sideeffect, especially in these
(09:51):
young pups, because theyprobably hit him with that and
heartworm and a whole boatloadof vaccinations all at one time
and the little body was justlike holy crap, I'm overloaded
and it, you know, inflamed itsbrain and it had a seizure.
But they immediately go.
There was some story about askunk exposure.
It's like, oh, so must've beenrabies, you know.
And now I'm getting I mean,we're hearing from people left
(10:13):
and right like people wantingexemptions.
It's like, well, I can't justwave my magic wand and give an
exemption.
Colorado does allow medicalexemptions.
So if we have a a sound,documented medical reason, then
you know we, we can doexemptions.
So if we have a sound,documented medical reason, then
you know we can do exemptions.
But you know I'm in Tennesseenow.
It's got to be, you know, welldocumented and I bet the medical
(10:38):
exemptions are going to begoing away, probably soon anyway
.
But you know that is still athing.
But it's, you know it's a realproblem because a lot of people
are contacting us and saying youknow, I can't get into my
groomer without the vaccine.
So I don't think groomers wererequired.
I think they're required tohave like proof on the premises,
(11:00):
like people have to come inwith like paperwork before.
I think groomers would say ifyour pet's current people say
yes, and you know it was just alittle bit looser, now they're
being required to actually holdproof because people are
contacting us Like I can't go tomy groomer anymore, you know,
and they're all freaking out.
But you know people are justgoing to have to find other
options learn to groom your dogyourself, or Well, how about
(11:22):
this?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
You just don't have a like you just said.
Well, how about this?
You just don't have a like youjust said no groomer.
And how about this?
All groomers go out of business.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, but that isn't you know, the sad reality,
deedee, it isn't going to happen.
Most people are just going well, I have to, I had to go get the
shots.
The people that are pushingback and saying, no, I don't
want to get the shots, are justthe minute percentage.
This way it's going to be sodevastating for pets because
they're just going to keepgetting sicker and sicker.
And there's no question in mymind that these vaccines are
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more toxic than ever.
It's why, like Dr Andy wassaying, more sick pets.
Well, people have beenvaccinating pets all along.
I think they're more toxic.
I don't know what they'reputting in them.
You know, I'm seeing cancer in18 months.
Old dogs.
Never used to see that and thatcan't.
That can't even be diet.
(12:11):
An 18 month old dog that, likea teenager, not the diet isn't
important, but they could eatcrap, they could eat old Roy.
And they're not going to getcancer at 18 months.
Right, it's got to be, they'llget.
They'll get it at five, youknow.
Get it 18 months, that's thebest.
It's got to be the.
They'll get it at five, youknow, but they won't get it at
18 months.
That's the.
It's got to be the vaccines.
So it's it's so sad.
(12:32):
It's just it's just so sad forthe pets.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So any out of state pet rescues okay, that means all
dogs, cats, ferrets.
They must have a rabiesvaccination now before being
imported into Colorado, andpuppies older than six weeks
must also have a parvovirus anddistemper vaccination two weeks
before being brought into thestate.
So you know what?
I wouldn't adopt any of thesedogs and this is the sad thing,
(13:04):
right.
So it is creating major stresson these folks who do want to
rescue dogs and then pet parentsthat are going to take on these
dogs.
What are they like?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
what you were saying, Dr Jasek, you better stop
putting some money back or getyourself pet insurance, because
I think you're going to need itand not even just the like, the
physical ones, the behavioralproblems, all these phobias like
why should dogs be afraid ofthunderstorms?
Thunderstorms are naturalthings, so many dogs are afraid
of thunderstorms.
(13:42):
The vaccines, and especiallythe rabies vaccines I think it
makes these phobias worse andI've seen it make dogs more
aggressive and more anxious.
You know, like I was talking toa client today where she told
me that she got a lab right andit's labs are really easygoing
right and they I can't rememberwhat state they were in.
(14:02):
So we know we got a pool andthere's kids in the pool
splashing.
The dog just like paces backand forth to the point that it
will rub its paws bloody on thecement.
She's.
I have to put the dog insidewhen the kids are in the pool,
like it doesn't make any sense.
I think these vaccines just messwith their brain.
(14:24):
Like, like it's like they'retrying to wipe out the pet
population Because people willend up getting more dogs
euthanized.
I mean, behavioral problems arealready one of the biggest
reasons pets get relinquished.
So there's going to be morebehavioral problems, more
chronic illness that peoplecan't afford.
And look at the prices youexperience what prices are like
oh my gosh people get a healthproblem.
(14:45):
They can't drop 10 grand.
I mean I hear statistics saytwo thirds of the population is
living paycheck to paycheck.
They can't afford 10 grandmedical bill.
They'll be euthanizing the pets.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Well, and and you know at least what I saw in my
situation, dr Jasek, is shedidn't need all those tests, she
didn't need all that crap.
We just recently did blood workagain.
She's perfectly normal,everything is normal, and you
know what they were saying oh mygosh, her liver, her kidneys,
her pancreas, I mean, come on,you know it wasn't any of that
(15:20):
crap.
And so I feel for our petparents and, um, you know, know,
I again I don't think anythingis going to be done unless it
affects somebody's pocketbook.
Right, you get so mad andyou're like I spent $10,000 and
(15:41):
it did nothing.
Right, right now, I think,where you and I have seen and
are have, this greatest concernis, you know, if you walk out of
that vet's office and they'relike your dog's liver enzymes
are off the charts, and you'relooking at them and you're
saying, yeah, these aren'treally off the charts, but
according to them, it is nowthey're on this medication that
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they don't need, that theydidn't need, and they make some
worse.
So this is a real conundrum andit's just.
I don't know what's going tohappen.
I don't know if this newadministration is going to help
us or not.
(16:24):
These organizations areginormous.
These pharmaceutical companiesare ginormous.
So these new vaccination changesare impacting and I don't know
if it's happening in otherstates, but certainly here in
Colorado they're going to impactthe doggy daycares, boarding
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facilities and groomers.
So now they all need to have arecord of current vaccinations
for rabies for any dog or catthat is over 16 weeks old.
Distemper it's got to be fordogs over eight weeks old, the
parvovirus dogs over eight weeksold, and then the cat FVRCP
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over eight weeks old, theparvovirus dogs over eight weeks
old and then the cat uh, fvrcpover eight weeks old.
Now here's where you come intoplay, dr jaycey, if you were
still here, but you're not stillhere.
But it says dogs and cats canbe exempted from the rule if
owners have a statement this isinteresting a statement from a
licensed veterinarian thatexplains that the vaccine would
endanger the pet's life and eventhen the exempted dog.
(17:35):
Where have we heard this before?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
cannot commingle with other dogs yep, well, I, and I
do it because I'm still licensedin Colorado, so I will write
medical exemptions.
But because I'm not there,looking at the pets, I mean it
has to be like well documented,you know.
Or there's still some peoplethat I used, you know, worked on
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their pets when I was therethat had chronic health
conditions.
Um, but you still, you needhelp.
But what about the pets thataren't sick, you know, like so,
because the exemptions are for amedical reason.
So if you've got a pet that'soutwardly healthy, so the poor
pet parents that have done allthese great things to keep their
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pets really healthy, nowthey're like being penal,
penalized and they've got to getthese shots because they can't
get them exempt, because thebecause they don't have a
medical reason, because they'vedone all this work to keep their
pets healthy.
It's it's really sad.
It's it's really really sad.
And they don't say anythingabout titer tests.
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I mean I don't know if, if thatwould help, but they don't
mention anything about that andthey didn't use to require.
I mean I don't know if, if thatwould help, but they don't
mention anything about that andthey didn't use to require.
I mean I think rabies has kindof been a standing requirement,
but they didn't use to requireall the other shots too.
So I wonder if, like the, youknow, when things don't make
sense it's always follow themoney.
So I bet, like these big pharmacompanies are somehow finding
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funding these, these rescueorganizations you know there's
some some tie there that sothey're just going to make a
whole bunch more money.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So they, they, you know, if you, if you dig deeper
into this article, it said thatone one of the puppies at the
adoption event tested positivefor rabies.
Okay, tested positive forrabies.
The other line says that one ofthe dogs tested positive for
(19:42):
the virus.
Okay, you know what does thatreally mean, dr Jasek?
I mean tested positive.
There are so many things thatthat dogs test positive for.
Was he ever going to exhibitsymptoms?
Was he ever really going to?
Why?
It's sort of like the cullingof the chickens.
Why did we kill all thesechickens?
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Why did we kill the healthyones?
How come you couldn't take thispuppy?
And it's not as if the virus isgoing to float through the damn
air, right.
So why didn't they take thepuppy and quarantine it and then
see why they have to kill it?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
and why they have to kill all 11?
I remember they said somethinglike that.
They didn't have the facilitiesto do that.
That's BS.
Oh, totally.
They couldn't have foundsomebody that would quarantine
that puppy.
Because, you're exactly right,Rabies symptoms.
Rabies is this serious disease.
They, if they had quarantinedthe puppy, say they haven't
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quarantined it for a month,which is probably a long, long
time, longer than necessary, butsay they did it for a month.
The puppy had rabies.
It would be showing anysymptoms by then.
But no, they couldn't.
They just couldn't find a wayto do that.
But what did they do?
They had to do this dramaticthing and I remember all the
stories taking these puppiesaway from the families and the
(21:03):
kids crying and all that theyhad to do, all the heartbreak,
to make sure that then, whenthey made these new rules about
the vaccines, oh, remember thatrabies case.
This is what's going to happenif you don't get your you know
your pet rabies vaccinated.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
So all these puppies lost their lives and because of
this and and the story you know,they're, they, the, the, some
of the, the pet parents reallycontacted attorneys.
Um, they wanted to quarantinethe dog themselves.
They, they were trying to doanything they could and it was
(21:39):
just not allowed.
And what did colorado say?
Oh, we're just being extracautious, are you now, because
you know there's been some crazystuff going on here in colorado
, like trying to take everythingout of the city, everything in
denver.
You, they were really trying toto take anything that had any
fur out of the city couldn'tsell anymore.
(22:01):
That means all cowboy hats, youknow any, really, oh yeah, oh
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that wasa thing too.
That was a thing too thatdidn't pass.
But you're just like, what ishappening?
What is happening?
And, um, I forgot the name ofthat one before.
It was the one where theywanted to change, I mean,
(22:22):
basically destroy the entirebeef industry here, and so, yeah
, crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Because you got to eat fake meat, because the cow
farts are causing climate change.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, yeah.
Are we ever going to get to thebottom of that?
It just is insane.
But here's the thing guys,Don't take your dogs to a place
where you have to subject themto this type of stuff.
Do you really need to go to adoggy daycare?
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Do you need to go to a groomer?
What do you need to do toprotect your animals?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Right, and I think there's got to be a way that,
like one of these groomers, nowthey have to keep it quiet.
They can't be out advertisingon Facebook.
Hey, I don't require vaccines,but you know there's ways of
building networks.
I mean, what did we used to dobefore the internet?
You know like there are ways ofcontacting people and just
through word of mouth, hey, I'llgroom your dog, put a little
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grooming shop in their house orsomething, and just say, hey,
I'll groom dogs here withoutrequiring vaccines, and just
kind of do it on the QT.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
There's always workarounds on the QT there's
always workarounds.
You can actually make a wholenew designer dog by the way you
grew right.
Maybe you grew a littledifferent right.
So you're like this is adesigner dog, right, and nobody
else has a dog that looks likemine because I groom him right.
He's not a show dog.
(23:57):
Yeah, and can you know?
Can you imagine, dr jacek?
I know that some people reallylike to have their show dogs,
but you, can you imagine howsick the show dogs are?
Oh my gosh, what we're doing,show dogs, and now we're piling
on all this stuff and there'sprobably some people that just
went click, I'm not listening tothis anymore.
Um, you don't have to listen toit, it's a fact.
(24:18):
I mean, you're gonna put all toput all this stuff in in a pro
plan Purina pro plan first andthen we're going to jack them
all up and then, and then we'regoing to show them, and then
what I mean?
Just cause they're, you know,show dogs.
I don't, I, I Well.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I bet these vaccines are going to affect fertility
too and these show dogs andthose people are going to.
You know they show those dogsand then they make a lot of
money breeding them.
And I bet these vaccines, I betthere's similar components in
these animal vaccines that werein the COVID shot and you're
going to start to see fertilityproblems and we're already
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seeing the cancers and otherhealth problems but I bet
there'll be fertility problemstoo.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, yeah.
So are you saying, dr Jasek,that you might be able to help
some of these folks now or not?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
in regards to yeah, if, they have, they there have,
the exemption has to be formedical reason.
So you know I need to be ableto document, or I have to have
documentation, like they have tohave been seen.
And like I I have met, likesome people I've worked with
already, like I have you knowfrom when I was in Colorado that
(25:32):
you know we did an exemptionbecause of a particular health
concern, like, say, the pet washad seizures.
Well, those dogs, you know,should never have vaccines, even
if they're not having seizuresanymore, things like that.
But there needs to be adocumented medical reason.
So if it's something I've neverseen, then they would probably
need to go in, have some recorddocumenting the medical concern.
(25:57):
And then you know I can reviewit.
And they have to come in andget established as a client via
telemedicine and you know I'lldo it.
I mean, eventually I couldprobably lose my life doing that
, but you know I'll help themwhile I can.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Well, it said right there you can if it feels like
it endangers their life and if adog is itchy and the dog is
losing, you know, weight and thedog is unwell, as it states
right there.
On the rabies, you know vaccine, I think you have a case.
I think you have a case, butyou know who knows?
(26:35):
I didn't think that they wouldkill 11 puppies and find out
that, you know, none of themreally had it and they wouldn't
even give them a chance to bequarantined.
So, yeah, I don't know, I don'tknow, but I do think that you
can get over to ahavetcom.
(26:57):
Ahavetcom, you can work with DrJasek's team telemedicine.
Sign up over there, you can.
You can, you know, run this byDr Jasek.
Let her look at some of therecords that you have.
What's going on.
But I think that, as you alwayssay, dr Jasek, you have to be a
champion for your dog.
(27:17):
You have to, you have to fightfor their rights.
You know, again we were treatedso poorly by the VRCC group
because we're raw feeders andagain, I have never seen better
dogs, healthier dogs, than thedogs that don't eat processed
(27:38):
cooked food.
I'm sorry, I just compare thetwo guys, compare the two and
there's no reason.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's the same for people too, people that eat
processed food, that are typetwo, diabetes and overweight and
all kinds of health issues,high blood pressure, and all
that is compared to people thateat, you know, whole food,
healthy, whole food diets.
You know it's a world ofdifference.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Well, I'm just going to say this there are many
different types of non-processedfoods that are popping up on
the market.
So if they're so bad, why arethey creating them?
Right?
Why are we seeing all thesecompanies?
You're going to see the bigcompanies.
You're going to try to compete.
They already are.
You look at the farmer's dog.
(28:26):
If you guys think that thefarmer's dog is not a giant
conglomerate, you are mistaken.
And they use a lot of the samewords that we use it's still
cooked, still cooked food.
Still got a lot of stuff in it.
We use it's still cooked, stillcooked food still got a lot of
stuff in it.
Look at the ingredient list.
Uh, but they know.
They know that kibble is crap.
(28:47):
All kibble is crap, right, allprocessed foods is crap for dogs
and cats and ferrets.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
So there you go yeah, and and kibble is so bad that
pets actually you know they doget better on farmer's dog
compared to the kibble, sure,but not as good on the farmer's
dog is feeding a true raw dietthank you guys.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
And and the whole thing about the, the raw diet.
You know they.
They created that wholebacteria scare, just like you
know, pac-fa created the wholerabies scare so that you can
move the masses.
And so once you kind of getonto the game right, maybe you
want to do a different game andyou can do it.
(29:31):
We know you can do it.
We have so many people that aredoing it and are keeping their
pets healthier, happier, longerin life.
So get over to ahabetcom, workwith Dr Jacek and also get over
to rawdogfoodandcompanycom.
(29:52):
Every Wednesday we have yourYappy Hour.
We're going to have things onsale.
We have so much on sale.
Like, we have the frozen food,we have the treats food, we have
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bones.
Okay, so there isn't a reasonthat you can't go on the site
every wednesday and get adiscount, uh, for fido um.
Also, brian is there.
(30:12):
He's there to help you do uh,pick your food, whatever you
need.
We'll do a free consultationright there for you.
Just get over torawdogfoodandcompanycom, dr
jesic, where your pet's healthis our business.
And what are you saying rightthere from another part of
tennessee?
Speaker 2 (30:29):
friends, don't let friends feed kibble y'all.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
That's right, nowhere in tennessee nowhere, nowhere
in the us of All.
Right, everybody, we'll see yousoon.
Bye-bye, oh snap.
Find out how you can start yourdog on the road to health and
longevity.
Go to raw dog food andcompanycom where friends don't
let friends feed kibble andwhere your pet's health is our
(30:53):
business.
Oh snap.
Well, hello Raw Feeders.
I'm DeeDee Mercer-Moffitt, ceoof Raw Dog Food Company.
We are PetSouth as our business, and we're my friend Dr Judy
Jasik.
Oh my God, she doesn't letfriends feed kibble, do you?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Nope, nope, not in Tennessee, not even in our new
house in Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I know how are you loving it?
And I want to hear about thetransition of the kitties.
How did they transition to thisnew place?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'll tell you what one of my kitties just about
gave me a heart attack, becauseafter we were here for like two
days and then he was gone for aday and and I went over to talk
to the neighbors who feed Kmel,you know.
But you know well, we'll workon that later, but right, not
(00:51):
going to lecture them, you knowthe first time, but anyway, yeah
, so I got up one morning thiswas a couple of mornings ago and
Oscar was gone and I thoughtwell, I wouldn't expect him to
wander too far.
They're getting used to new,they're outdoor kitties, new
like hunting grounds and stuffand Chester was staying pretty
close in and then he was gone.
He was gone all day and I wentover.
(01:11):
I hadn't met the neighbor yet.
I went over to introduce myselfand let her know that I had a
kitty around.
If she saw him he was mine andeverything.
And then she's telling me aboutthe coyotes here.
But like, well, we had coyotesat our old place and foxes.
So I figured these cats arepretty savvy, right, they know
what to look for and run uptrees and all that stuff.
(01:33):
But then didn't show up fordinner and I'm just like I was
upset because I'd moved the game, made the decision to move the
kitties and I'm feeling like, oh, I'm responsible, and you know
I mean we're.
I made the decision to move thekitties.
I'm feeling like I'mresponsible, we're exhausted for
moving and everything.
I was upset about it.
The next morning he showed up.
He knows where the good food is, he knows where the food is.
(01:56):
He's like I can eat good and Idon't have to hunt for it.
That's pretty cool.
Why would I want to leave that?
I don't know if he wasn'tlooking for something familiar
or just went hunting and got to.
Sorry, I mean, who knows?
I wish they had a little cameraon to get see where, see where
they go.
But you know they did.
Well, I had a big, a big cratethat I put them in out on the
(02:19):
deck while we were actuallyunpacking and then I let them
out and put their food down andthey they just been, they just
been hanging out.
So I guess they're doing okay.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I mean, that was that was about a three hour drive
for for you guys to go from yourplace to this new place, right?
So the cats, it wasn't a long,long drawn out thing for them.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It wasn't too bad.
I stuck them in the carrier andI gave them just each, just
like a few drops of CBD.
I thought maybe that would takeit, but they did fine.
Halfway through the trip theywere sound asleep.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
So about that.
Did you actually open up theirmouth and put the CBD in, or
would they actually lick it up?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, no, I well, I just kind of like part picked up
the lip and just put it on thegums like on the outside, just
gets the mucous membranes there,and just did like a couple
drops because it was a prettystrong concentration.
So I just did a couple dropsand I I was amazed at how well
they did because I did not wantto listen to cats like yowling
(03:19):
you know how cats yell whenthey're stressed I did not want
to listen to that for threehours, but they did fine.
I listened to.
I like Westerns, I watch, likeWestern movies and stuff, and I
listened to audiobooks fromLouis L'Amour.
He's, like you know, westernauthor, you know, and and I
(03:41):
really like it's just easy, know, like you know, it's like I
don't want something I gottalike hyper focus on, but if you
get involved in a story itpasses the time, you know.
So I thought, well, maybe theyjust liked listening to they
liked it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
They liked it too, of course it was, must have been,
a soothing voice yeah, just likelike the voice and stuff like
that.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So so, yeah.
So I mean it's, it's all good.
I mean I mean it's it's, youknow, disorienting and getting
you know used to everything, buthonestly, the logistics of the
move couldn't have gone anybetter.
You know, I mean the truck.
I'd never driven a 26 foottruck before, but that went okay
(04:23):
.
I was glad to be done withdoing that driven a 26 foot
truck before, but that went okay.
I was glad to be done withdoing that.
But you know it, it went okay.
Just all.
It just all went okay.
It all fell into place andwe're happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
So awesome, and you're still here on the podcast
, so there we go.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Isn't that the amazing thing about podcasts
Like you can just wherever youare there's this little know.
I just log into the same placeand there's Deedee.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Right, because I'm back in Colorado for a while.
So we'll be heading back out tothe Arizona area, but we are
back in Colorado and it'sawesome.
We've got lots of new thingscoming up for the business.
We're going to have thesesubscription models that are
going to take place.
We're going to have thesesubscription models that are
going to take place.
We're going to have a new um,new theme coming up, and so,
(05:08):
yeah, we got a lot of stuffgoing on.
But you know what I don't like,dr jacek, is this new pet
vaccine requirement here incolorado shelters for the
shelters, the groomers and theborders, and you know why that
they're doing this, which it'scrazy to me.
(05:29):
So the changes are in responseto that.
2024, and I'm putting my handsup and doing air quotes rabies
exposure involving that litterof puppies brought in from Texas
, moms and mutts, uh, a Coloradorescue called MAMCA.
Now, this is what irritates thesphincter out of me is that
(05:55):
there really wasn't this rabiesoutbreak, right, there wasn't.
No, where was the?
So here's what they say um, newvaccine requirements will take
effect tuesday.
Now, this was.
This came out july 15th.
Okay, but it it took effect injuly for colorado shelters,
(06:18):
groomers and borders nearly oneyear.
And then they underlined itafter a rabies outbreak
involving a rescue and, to myknowledge, dr jayceek, they cut
the heads off of every one ofthese little puppies and didn't
find that any of them had rabies.
So where is the rabies outbreak?
(06:39):
Where is it?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
yeah, yeah, it's it's , it's.
And those puppies came fromTexas.
They didn't even come fromColorado and they didn't go
anywhere.
So even say they had rabies,which we don't even believe
exists at all, but say they did,they never left anywhere, they
were in their foster home andone of them got sick and and it
(07:03):
was an exposure to a skunk, Ithink, or something wasn't there
in Texas or something that theycould never even verify the
story.
But the puppies never wentanywhere.
But you know, I'm so cynicalthese days that I'm just
convinced they wanted.
They wanted to change thesevaccine laws, which I'm not sure
why.
It's just to sell more vaccines, kill off more pets, create
(07:26):
more chronic illness.
I mean, there's no healthbenefit to these vaccines
whatsoever, but it seems likethey create a story like that.
So then they have a have areason to require vaccines.
Where have we heard that before?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Did they do?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
that to people here a few years back.
You know, like you, know, why Idon't.
I don't know what the agenda isto vaccinate all these pets,
but it is going to bedevastating.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, here's the thing.
I just took Lazi over to DrAndy to have her adjusted, lazi
over to Dr Andy to have heradjusted.
And we were talking about thestate of health of pets and she
said DeeDee, I see so many sickand unhealthy pets.
(08:16):
I have never seen this many inmy career.
And she said it's devastating.
And she said I don't think it'sgoing to stop, I think we're
going to have sicker and sickerand sicker pets.
And you know they euthanized 11of those puppies, 11.
And do they come out and sayhere's how many of them have it?
(08:40):
You know what they say in thiswhole thing and we were a little
bit closer to this situationthan this article but they said
that you know the incubationperiod, you know it could be
weeks for rabies and it wasn'tuntil the puppies had already
been adopted that they startedshowing symptoms.
Okay, what symptoms?
(09:03):
And what do those symptoms looklike when something else is
going on right?
Had they had, you know, allthese other type of toxic inputs
into their bodies?
What kind of foods were beingfed to these dogs?
And there was.
You know who really had rabies?
(09:26):
Who, yeah, which?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
ones.
I think one of the puppies, ifI'm remembering correctly,
showed like neurologic signs orsome kind or had a seizure or
something.
Oh my God, well, you can betyour bottom dollar.
They treated all these puppieswith flea and tick preventatives
.
Coming from Texas, you knowthey were going to wallop them
with all that.
Well, those are no neurotoxins.
You know, seizures are a sideeffect, especially in these
(09:51):
young pups, because theyprobably hit him with that and
heartworm and a whole boatloadof vaccinations all at one time
and the little body was justlike holy crap, I'm overloaded
and it, you know, inflamed itsbrain and it had a seizure.
But they immediately go.
There was some story about askunk exposure.
It's like, oh, so must've beenrabies, you know.
And now I'm getting I mean,we're hearing from people left
(10:13):
and right like people wantingexemptions.
It's like, well, I can't justwave my magic wand and give an
exemption.
Colorado does allow medicalexemptions.
So if we have a a sound,documented medical reason, then
you know we, we can doexemptions.
So if we have a sound,documented medical reason, then
you know we can do exemptions.
But you know I'm in Tennesseenow.
It's got to be, you know, welldocumented and I bet the medical
(10:38):
exemptions are going to begoing away, probably soon anyway
.
But you know that is still athing.
But it's, you know it's a realproblem because a lot of people
are contacting us and saying youknow, I can't get into my
groomer without the vaccine.
So I don't think groomers wererequired.
I think they're required tohave like proof on the premises,
(11:00):
like people have to come inwith like paperwork before.
I think groomers would say ifyour pet's current people say
yes, and you know it was just alittle bit looser, now they're
being required to actually holdproof because people are
contacting us Like I can't go tomy groomer anymore, you know,
and they're all freaking out.
But you know people are justgoing to have to find other
options learn to groom your dogyourself, or Well, how about
(11:22):
this?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
You just don't have a like you just said.
Well, how about this?
You just don't have a like youjust said no groomer.
And how about this?
All groomers go out of business.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, but that isn't you know, the sad reality,
deedee, it isn't going to happen.
Most people are just going well, I have to, I had to go get the
shots.
The people that are pushingback and saying, no, I don't
want to get the shots, are justthe minute percentage.
This way it's going to be sodevastating for pets because
they're just going to keepgetting sicker and sicker.
And there's no question in mymind that these vaccines are
(11:51):
more toxic than ever.
It's why, like Dr Andy wassaying, more sick pets.
Well, people have beenvaccinating pets all along.
I think they're more toxic.
I don't know what they'reputting in them.
You know, I'm seeing cancer in18 months.
Old dogs.
Never used to see that and thatcan't.
That can't even be diet.
(12:11):
An 18 month old dog that, likea teenager, not the diet isn't
important, but they could eatcrap, they could eat old Roy.
And they're not going to getcancer at 18 months.
Right, it's got to be, they'llget.
They'll get it at five, youknow.
Get it 18 months, that's thebest.
It's got to be the.
They'll get it at five, youknow, but they won't get it at
18 months.
That's the.
It's got to be the vaccines.
So it's it's so sad.
(12:32):
It's just it's just so sad forthe pets.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So any out of state pet rescues okay, that means all
dogs, cats, ferrets.
They must have a rabiesvaccination now before being
imported into Colorado, andpuppies older than six weeks
must also have a parvovirus anddistemper vaccination two weeks
before being brought into thestate.
So you know what?
I wouldn't adopt any of thesedogs and this is the sad thing,
(13:04):
right.
So it is creating major stresson these folks who do want to
rescue dogs and then pet parentsthat are going to take on these
dogs.
What are they like?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
what you were saying, Dr Jasek, you better stop
putting some money back or getyourself pet insurance, because
I think you're going to need itand not even just the like, the
physical ones, the behavioralproblems, all these phobias like
why should dogs be afraid ofthunderstorms?
Thunderstorms are naturalthings, so many dogs are afraid
of thunderstorms.
(13:42):
The vaccines, and especiallythe rabies vaccines I think it
makes these phobias worse andI've seen it make dogs more
aggressive and more anxious.
You know, like I was talking toa client today where she told
me that she got a lab right andit's labs are really easygoing
right and they I can't rememberwhat state they were in.
(14:02):
So we know we got a pool andthere's kids in the pool
splashing.
The dog just like paces backand forth to the point that it
will rub its paws bloody on thecement.
She's.
I have to put the dog insidewhen the kids are in the pool,
like it doesn't make any sense.
I think these vaccines just messwith their brain.
(14:24):
Like, like it's like they'retrying to wipe out the pet
population Because people willend up getting more dogs
euthanized.
I mean, behavioral problems arealready one of the biggest
reasons pets get relinquished.
So there's going to be morebehavioral problems, more
chronic illness that peoplecan't afford.
And look at the prices youexperience what prices are like
oh my gosh people get a healthproblem.
(14:45):
They can't drop 10 grand.
I mean I hear statistics saytwo thirds of the population is
living paycheck to paycheck.
They can't afford 10 grandmedical bill.
They'll be euthanizing the pets.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Well, and and you know at least what I saw in my
situation, dr Jasek, is shedidn't need all those tests, she
didn't need all that crap.
We just recently did blood workagain.
She's perfectly normal,everything is normal, and you
know what they were saying oh mygosh, her liver, her kidneys,
her pancreas, I mean, come on,you know it wasn't any of that
(15:20):
crap.
And so I feel for our petparents and, um, you know, know,
I again I don't think anythingis going to be done unless it
affects somebody's pocketbook.
Right, you get so mad andyou're like I spent $10,000 and
(15:41):
it did nothing.
Right, right now, I think,where you and I have seen and
are have, this greatest concernis, you know, if you walk out of
that vet's office and they'relike your dog's liver enzymes
are off the charts, and you'relooking at them and you're
saying, yeah, these aren'treally off the charts, but
according to them, it is nowthey're on this medication that
(16:04):
they don't need, that theydidn't need, and they make some
worse.
So this is a real conundrum andit's just.
I don't know what's going tohappen.
I don't know if this newadministration is going to help
us or not.
(16:24):
These organizations areginormous.
These pharmaceutical companiesare ginormous.
So these new vaccination changesare impacting and I don't know
if it's happening in otherstates, but certainly here in
Colorado they're going to impactthe doggy daycares, boarding
(16:45):
facilities and groomers.
So now they all need to have arecord of current vaccinations
for rabies for any dog or catthat is over 16 weeks old.
Distemper it's got to be fordogs over eight weeks old, the
parvovirus dogs over eight weeksold, and then the cat FVRCP
(17:10):
over eight weeks old, theparvovirus dogs over eight weeks
old and then the cat uh, fvrcpover eight weeks old.
Now here's where you come intoplay, dr jaycey, if you were
still here, but you're not stillhere.
But it says dogs and cats canbe exempted from the rule if
owners have a statement this isinteresting a statement from a
licensed veterinarian thatexplains that the vaccine would
endanger the pet's life and eventhen the exempted dog.
(17:35):
Where have we heard this before?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
cannot commingle with other dogs yep, well, I, and I
do it because I'm still licensedin Colorado, so I will write
medical exemptions.
But because I'm not there,looking at the pets, I mean it
has to be like well documented,you know.
Or there's still some peoplethat I used, you know, worked on
(18:00):
their pets when I was therethat had chronic health
conditions.
Um, but you still, you needhelp.
But what about the pets thataren't sick, you know, like so,
because the exemptions are for amedical reason.
So if you've got a pet that'soutwardly healthy, so the poor
pet parents that have done allthese great things to keep their
(18:22):
pets really healthy, nowthey're like being penal,
penalized and they've got to getthese shots because they can't
get them exempt, because thebecause they don't have a
medical reason, because they'vedone all this work to keep their
pets healthy.
It's it's really sad.
It's it's really really sad.
And they don't say anythingabout titer tests.
(18:42):
I mean I don't know if, if thatwould help, but they don't
mention anything about that andthey didn't use to require.
I mean I don't know if, if thatwould help, but they don't
mention anything about that andthey didn't use to require.
I mean I think rabies has kindof been a standing requirement,
but they didn't use to requireall the other shots too.
So I wonder if, like the, youknow, when things don't make
sense it's always follow themoney.
So I bet, like these big pharmacompanies are somehow finding
(19:05):
funding these, these rescueorganizations you know there's
some some tie there that sothey're just going to make a
whole bunch more money.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So they, they, you know, if you, if you dig deeper
into this article, it said thatone one of the puppies at the
adoption event tested positivefor rabies.
Okay, tested positive forrabies.
The other line says that one ofthe dogs tested positive for
(19:42):
the virus.
Okay, you know what does thatreally mean, dr Jasek?
I mean tested positive.
There are so many things thatthat dogs test positive for.
Was he ever going to exhibitsymptoms?
Was he ever really going to?
Why?
It's sort of like the cullingof the chickens.
Why did we kill all thesechickens?
(20:04):
Why did we kill the healthyones?
How come you couldn't take thispuppy?
And it's not as if the virus isgoing to float through the damn
air, right.
So why didn't they take thepuppy and quarantine it and then
see why they have to kill it?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
and why they have to kill all 11?
I remember they said somethinglike that.
They didn't have the facilitiesto do that.
That's BS.
Oh, totally.
They couldn't have foundsomebody that would quarantine
that puppy.
Because, you're exactly right,Rabies symptoms.
Rabies is this serious disease.
They, if they had quarantinedthe puppy, say they haven't
(20:41):
quarantined it for a month,which is probably a long, long
time, longer than necessary, butsay they did it for a month.
The puppy had rabies.
It would be showing anysymptoms by then.
But no, they couldn't.
They just couldn't find a wayto do that.
But what did they do?
They had to do this dramaticthing and I remember all the
stories taking these puppiesaway from the families and the
(21:03):
kids crying and all that theyhad to do, all the heartbreak,
to make sure that then, whenthey made these new rules about
the vaccines, oh, remember thatrabies case.
This is what's going to happenif you don't get your you know
your pet rabies vaccinated.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
So all these puppies lost their lives and because of
this and and the story you know,they're, they, the, the, some
of the, the pet parents reallycontacted attorneys.
Um, they wanted to quarantinethe dog themselves.
They, they were trying to doanything they could and it was
(21:39):
just not allowed.
And what did colorado say?
Oh, we're just being extracautious, are you now, because
you know there's been some crazystuff going on here in colorado
, like trying to take everythingout of the city, everything in
denver.
You, they were really trying toto take anything that had any
fur out of the city couldn'tsell anymore.
(22:01):
That means all cowboy hats, youknow any, really, oh yeah, oh
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that wasa thing too.
That was a thing too thatdidn't pass.
But you're just like, what ishappening?
What is happening?
And, um, I forgot the name ofthat one before.
It was the one where theywanted to change, I mean,
(22:22):
basically destroy the entirebeef industry here, and so, yeah
, crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Because you got to eat fake meat, because the cow
farts are causing climate change.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, yeah.
Are we ever going to get to thebottom of that?
It just is insane.
But here's the thing guys,Don't take your dogs to a place
where you have to subject themto this type of stuff.
Do you really need to go to adoggy daycare?
(22:54):
Do you need to go to a groomer?
What do you need to do toprotect your animals?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Right, and I think there's got to be a way that,
like one of these groomers, nowthey have to keep it quiet.
They can't be out advertisingon Facebook.
Hey, I don't require vaccines,but you know there's ways of
building networks.
I mean, what did we used to dobefore the internet?
You know like there are ways ofcontacting people and just
through word of mouth, hey, I'llgroom your dog, put a little
(23:27):
grooming shop in their house orsomething, and just say, hey,
I'll groom dogs here withoutrequiring vaccines, and just
kind of do it on the QT.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
There's always workarounds on the QT there's
always workarounds.
You can actually make a wholenew designer dog by the way you
grew right.
Maybe you grew a littledifferent right.
So you're like this is adesigner dog, right, and nobody
else has a dog that looks likemine because I groom him right.
He's not a show dog.
(23:57):
Yeah, and can you know?
Can you imagine, dr jacek?
I know that some people reallylike to have their show dogs,
but you, can you imagine howsick the show dogs are?
Oh my gosh, what we're doing,show dogs, and now we're piling
on all this stuff and there'sprobably some people that just
went click, I'm not listening tothis anymore.
Um, you don't have to listen toit, it's a fact.
(24:18):
I mean, you're gonna put all toput all this stuff in in a pro
plan Purina pro plan first andthen we're going to jack them
all up and then, and then we'regoing to show them, and then
what I mean?
Just cause they're, you know,show dogs.
I don't, I, I Well.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I bet these vaccines are going to affect fertility
too and these show dogs andthose people are going to.
You know they show those dogsand then they make a lot of
money breeding them.
And I bet these vaccines, I betthere's similar components in
these animal vaccines that werein the COVID shot and you're
going to start to see fertilityproblems and we're already
(24:56):
seeing the cancers and otherhealth problems but I bet
there'll be fertility problemstoo.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, yeah.
So are you saying, dr Jasek,that you might be able to help
some of these folks now or not?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
in regards to yeah, if, they have, they there have,
the exemption has to be formedical reason.
So you know I need to be ableto document, or I have to have
documentation, like they have tohave been seen.
And like I I have met, likesome people I've worked with
already, like I have you knowfrom when I was in Colorado that
(25:32):
you know we did an exemptionbecause of a particular health
concern, like, say, the pet washad seizures.
Well, those dogs, you know,should never have vaccines, even
if they're not having seizuresanymore, things like that.
But there needs to be adocumented medical reason.
So if it's something I've neverseen, then they would probably
need to go in, have some recorddocumenting the medical concern.
(25:57):
And then you know I can reviewit.
And they have to come in andget established as a client via
telemedicine and you know I'lldo it.
I mean, eventually I couldprobably lose my life doing that
, but you know I'll help themwhile I can.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Well, it said right there you can if it feels like
it endangers their life and if adog is itchy and the dog is
losing, you know, weight and thedog is unwell, as it states
right there.
On the rabies, you know vaccine, I think you have a case.
I think you have a case, butyou know who knows?
(26:35):
I didn't think that they wouldkill 11 puppies and find out
that, you know, none of themreally had it and they wouldn't
even give them a chance to bequarantined.
So, yeah, I don't know, I don'tknow, but I do think that you
can get over to ahavetcom.
(26:57):
Ahavetcom, you can work with DrJasek's team telemedicine.
Sign up over there, you can.
You can, you know, run this byDr Jasek.
Let her look at some of therecords that you have.
What's going on.
But I think that, as you alwayssay, dr Jasek, you have to be a
champion for your dog.
(27:17):
You have to, you have to fightfor their rights.
You know, again we were treatedso poorly by the VRCC group
because we're raw feeders andagain, I have never seen better
dogs, healthier dogs, than thedogs that don't eat processed
(27:38):
cooked food.
I'm sorry, I just compare thetwo guys, compare the two and
there's no reason.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's the same for people too, people that eat
processed food, that are typetwo, diabetes and overweight and
all kinds of health issues,high blood pressure, and all
that is compared to people thateat, you know, whole food,
healthy, whole food diets.
You know it's a world ofdifference.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Well, I'm just going to say this there are many
different types of non-processedfoods that are popping up on
the market.
So if they're so bad, why arethey creating them?
Right?
Why are we seeing all thesecompanies?
You're going to see the bigcompanies.
You're going to try to compete.
They already are.
You look at the farmer's dog.
(28:26):
If you guys think that thefarmer's dog is not a giant
conglomerate, you are mistaken.
And they use a lot of the samewords that we use it's still
cooked, still cooked food.
Still got a lot of stuff in it.
We use it's still cooked, stillcooked food still got a lot of
stuff in it.
Look at the ingredient list.
Uh, but they know.
They know that kibble is crap.
(28:47):
All kibble is crap, right, allprocessed foods is crap for dogs
and cats and ferrets.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
So there you go yeah, and and kibble is so bad that
pets actually you know they doget better on farmer's dog
compared to the kibble, sure,but not as good on the farmer's
dog is feeding a true raw dietthank you guys.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
And and the whole thing about the, the raw diet.
You know they.
They created that wholebacteria scare, just like you
know, pac-fa created the wholerabies scare so that you can
move the masses.
And so once you kind of getonto the game right, maybe you
want to do a different game andyou can do it.
(29:31):
We know you can do it.
We have so many people that aredoing it and are keeping their
pets healthier, happier, longerin life.
So get over to ahabetcom, workwith Dr Jacek and also get over
to rawdogfoodandcompanycom.
(29:52):
Every Wednesday we have yourYappy Hour.
We're going to have things onsale.
We have so much on sale.
Like, we have the frozen food,we have the treats food, we have
the treats, we have thesupplements and we have the
bones.
Okay, so there isn't a reasonthat you can't go on the site
every wednesday and get adiscount, uh, for fido um.
Also, brian is there.
(30:12):
He's there to help you do uh,pick your food, whatever you
need.
We'll do a free consultationright there for you.
Just get over torawdogfoodandcompanycom, dr
jesic, where your pet's healthis our business.
And what are you saying rightthere from another part of
tennessee?
Speaker 2 (30:29):
friends, don't let friends feed kibble y'all.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
That's right, nowhere in tennessee nowhere, nowhere
in the us of All.
Right, everybody, we'll see yousoon.
Bye-bye, oh snap.
Find out how you can start yourdog on the road to health and
longevity.
Go to raw dog food andcompanycom where friends don't
let friends feed kibble andwhere your pet's health is our
(30:53):
business.
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