August 29, 2023 • 36 mins
Beaming from the edge of reality TV and navigating through the galaxy of paparazzi, join us, your hosts Rick and Taylor Armstrong, as we take you on a wild journey in this episode of the Raw Show. Prepare for a rollercoaster of emotions as we share stories of chaotic encounters with the paparazzi, the electrifying world of reality TV, and the art of maneuvering through challenging scenarios. Laugh along with us as we recall an unforgettable incident where Taylor, after a single indulgent drink, finds himself stranded outside a restaurant, turning what should have been a quiet exit into an impromptu spectacle for the paparazzi.
Strap in as we shift gears and dive into the lighter side of reality TV. Imagine walking on the streets, cameras rolling, as Kennedy and her friend Alexis accompany Jen Pedranti's son on a playful stroll. That's authenticity for you, even under the glaring spotlight. We also discuss Shannon's apprehensive anticipation of a looming reunion and her brave intent to take this opportunity to voice her thoughts. The drama unfolds with Taylor's well-intentioned offer to Heather, which sadly got lost in translation, sparking a riveting conversation about perception versus reality. And don't forget Kennedy's smart negotiation tactics, and Tamera's hilarious confusion between the 1990s and the 1900s.
The thrill continues as we chat about Vicki's filming experiences with the Trace Amigos and Shannon's creative pursuits. Hear about Kennedy's heart-pounding adventure of being chased with a tequila water gun and Taylor's admiration for Jen and Ryan's relationship. Peek into our interactions with Jeff Lewis and the exciting happenings at BravoCon. We wrap up this laughter-filled episode with a jovial recap of our past episodes, Kennedy's interactions with the cast, and a whole lot more. Don't miss out on this exciting episode filled with laughter, life lessons, and a dash of drama.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's a little right and a lot wrong.
The Raw Show with Rick.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Walker and Taylor Armstrong.
Now here's Rick and Taylor.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome back to the Raw Show.
I'm Rick, that's Taylor, okay,so I got to jump right in.
I've got so many questions youready.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm ready All right.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
First thing, paparazzi, apple fam, we got.
I.
What, what have I tried to tellyou?
What have I talked to you aboutfor decades?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I know, I know, but you know what you give me a
martini and some paparazzi andthings are going to go right.
You know that about me.
You just need to send ababysitter with me, maybe a
nanny, something along thoselines.
You need a manny.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Now John was like right there, but I saw him start
to ease away.
He's learned over the years,yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Just leave me standing there by myself.
Yeah, I'm going to fool out ofmyself.
I know, I know.
So you were coming out of whatA restaurant?
A party.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You're coming out of Craigs, where there's always
paparazzi and I should knowbetter.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Right, I should go to different places in my friend's
restaurant and support him.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yes, now so how much drinking is going on?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You know, what's interesting about it is, I
literally had one drink and Ihad.
We hadn't eaten dinner yet, andso I think that was part of the
problem One large drink.
No, I really only had one drink, and it's a John, and I were
like, wait a minute, that wasweird.
I only had one drink and youknow that's not much for me.
Yeah, you can usually hold alot more than one Easy.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Is it a big Vegas?
One of those big like like what?
So what?
What were you drinking?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I had a martini.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
And so how long did the interview go on out there?
You had like a whole show goingon Well here was the problem.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
We thought our car service was there and I was just
going to hook it outside andjump into the car and be gone,
and then all of a sudden the carwasn't there, so I was stuck.
So then, you know, I just, Idon't know, I turn it on and
then I can't turn it off.
I don't know what to say, but Iblame the car service.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
The car service.
You got to time that muchbetter.
I totally agree with that.
You got to get that that timingto be out there before you exit
and then just go.
Hey on the way.
I think that was your plan,right.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
That was the plan, and then the plan got foiled,
and then I was stuck, and then Ihave to be overly animated, and
then you know.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So do you remember what they were asking you?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well, no, the one guy was saying he's like oh, I
Googled her and I'm like Don'ttake pictures of me If you're
going to have to Google me.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So that's a good thing about Orange County is we
don't have paparazzi.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh good, and where was that that?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
was in LA.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Oh, you said you're still good in LA, then you'd be
good yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, exactly, I just have to stay in hiding in my
beach town.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Now do you get anxiety when this stuff comes
out, when you're like, oh gosh,what did I do last night?
Oh, outside a restaurant,paparazzi, I put on a little bit
of a show.
Do you get anxious about that,or nervous, or for a day even,
and then the new cycle kind ofwinds up and it starts to move
away a little bit.
But during that moment how doyou feel?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I'm typically like, oh no, what have I done now and
then?
But I don't like to recount anyof it because I figure whatever
I did, it's done, it's in thecan, as we say, you know, and I
just have to.
I think people know that I'm Ican be a little wacky, so I'm
(03:58):
not sure that it's a big shockto anyone, so I just have to.
I mean, for a day I'm probablylike oh yeah, yeah, and then I
just go oh well, whatever,what's another day in my life?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I love when they grab the screenshots where you're
like it's like okay, and thenthey make those the picture of
the headline and the you knowwhatever paper I know.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I do have a very animated facial.
You know different things thatI do with my face.
I'm very expressive.
And so they usually get thosepretty good screenshots, you
know, I mean, the cat memedidn't come out of nowhere,
right, that's true.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I know pretty soon you're going to have another.
It's going to be another meal.
Hourenary Asks for somethingtolass and a coach and a dog.
Ia me, I'm going to do this formyself, so you're going to be
there for a routine sessionwhere I do like pretty good рос
from the beginning, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
You know laser was armor around right.
The laser was Whaacking tolerit was.
It's pretty communicationsgetting.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Carrie in place.
It was a really good 놀�.
So they they put real time.
It was really a so they broughtreal time.
They brought real time, theybrought real time.
It's going to be another meme.
I was expecting your meme tostart showing up with Trump's
mugshot.
Not that we want to get offinto politics, but I figured
there would be some kind ofcombo crossover meme going on.
Have you seen any of those yet?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I haven't, but I wouldn't be surprised.
I mean, they've done so manycreative things over the years
with the meme that you know.
I'm sure Trump will be nextmugshot.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
All right, Let me ask you about some housewife stuff
then.
Okay, I saw Kennedy on the showwith her friend and she looked
like my 17-year-old daughterswhen they were like, okay, as if
you know, I mean, was she likeexcited to be on?
Was it like enough?
What'd she say about it?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
She's funny.
I mean she does it, but she is.
She kind of coaxes me a littlelike right before they mic her,
before we film, she'll be like,yeah, I don't think I want to do
it, I'm like you're doing it.
I have news You're getting mic'dright now.
Okay, like, don't let me committo something and then back out
at the last minute.
So she's a negotiator.
(06:11):
She'll be like, okay, well,I'll do it, but then I want this
in return.
Like, I want to go shopping.
I'm like she waits for the verylast minute when they're just
about to put a mic on her, andI'm typically already mic'd.
And so what am I going to say?
Like no, I'm not taking yourshopping.
You know I have a hot micmoment.
No, so I just shake my hand,yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
That's brilliant.
That's good.
Negotiating on her part that'sawesome yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
No, she's good, she's always a negotiator Kennedy's
smart like a fox.
So when?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
we were kids and the parents or the adults would go
hey, this is Billy, go off andplay with.
This is Robin, go off.
This is Susan, go off and playwith them.
I didn't ever want to go dothat and I felt like that
happened on the show.
They hit that.
That who, whose kid was it thatshowed up?
That 14 year old guy orwhatever?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Jen Pedranti's son.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Okay, jen's son, and yeah.
And then there was like, okay,you guys go.
I could just feel Kennedy going.
I don't know what to do.
Would she feel like she wasbabysitting him, or what Well,
and she so.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
That's why she took her friend Alexis because, she
when I asked her if she would goshe's like.
I think you want me to go hangout with some guy I don't even
know and she's like I'm taking afriend and I'm like, okay, you
would take a friend then.
Yeah, so that's good it wouldhave been awkward if the two of
them just would have walked offtogether.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, jen's son and Kennedy.
Good move.
So she went and of course, gotthe kid drunk right.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
No, not true, but they, I think they had fun
filming, just goofing around.
Yeah, it was fun, good, okay,so it's been fun too.
People have been sweet onsocial media about seeing her
you know, being so small becausethey've done some flashbacks
and then seeing her now.
(08:06):
So it's been, it's been cute.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
It's cool to see her.
I, you know, always likeKennedy, even when she like
makes up and calls me names andmakes up names for me and just
like I.
One time I came out and this Iwas at Taylor's house one time
and came out of the kitchen andHolly was with me and I'm
(08:29):
holding two plates, one for her,one for me and she goes I'm
going to call you combo and Ithink she thought all that food
was for me and it might havebeen.
I was like 300 pounds, so itmight have been.
But ever since that day andthat was like what?
15 years ago, whatever, maybenot bad, she's 70.
So it was probably 10 years ago.
She, that nickname it's likeeven around my house, is like
(08:52):
hey, combo.
Every time I get some a platefull of.
So thanks, thanks, kennedy,thanks.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Right, I remember that day very specifically.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Combo.
I'm going to call him combo,all right.
So there's so much coming upWe've got.
I want to ask you about theshot, the tequila shots, that's.
That's a weapon you got to stayaway from.
First of all, what was that?
What did you fell down?
Did you hurt yourself?
(09:24):
Explain that whole what did we?
Not see on that show.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
If, okay, if Tamer judge was chasing you with a gun
, you'd run too.
Any kind of gun, a tequila gun,water gun, god forbid a gun
with bullets you'd be runningtoo.
So I rounded the corner and ofcourse I'm in stilettos and you
know that just isn't going to gowell.
So I did have a little fall.
I didn't get hurt, but I was.
(09:49):
I mean, I was a little bitscared.
I don't want Tamer runningafter me.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
How many falls have you had?
Seriously, let's count them up.
I mean just just guess in inthe last, I don't know.
Since you've been on housewivesI've never I don't remember
seeing you fall on the show, butI'm sure I mean I've been with
you when you've fallen down.
I don't know how you don'tbreak you're like this big how
you don't break a knee or a bow.
Have you ever injured yourself?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You know, I'm pretty Brazilian, I think the whole key
is to not be in stilettos, youknow, if that is just, it's a
dangerous combination anyway,and so I get myself in a little
bit of trouble.
I should start wearing flats.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, you should, that's never going to happen.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It's a little pair of sneakers.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
That's never going to happen.
You know those kind that youslip in.
You see the TV commercials, youjust kind of slide in, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
If I start wearing those, you need to come rescue
me.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Oh God, no kidding, I will.
I will.
Unless there's a littlesponsorship dollar involved,
then you know we'll make anexception.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, that's true.
Everything is an exception withsponsorship dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Right, okay.
So I have a question, becauseI've been in broadcasting for my
whole life and when someonesays, don't film this, you can't
put this on the TV show I don'tknow what happens on reality
shows, but Shannon sure saidthat and they continue to film
(11:16):
from a camera, like over there.
So what's the rule there andwhat can they get away with and
what did they do?
Anything wrong Like what goeson there?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I think it's interesting because if you're
going to be on a reality show,then you need to be real and you
need to show your reality.
And I think with my lifehistory that's pretty evident
that my reality was definitelyon television.
So I don't know why people saylike you can't film this because
that's not how it works.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
So I've seen some people say like, like.
I think I saw Heather saycameras down, cameras go down,
and she wouldn't let him filmstuff.
And yet Shannon said that andthey continued filming and then
it made.
It was on the show of last week.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, I've never, to my knowledge.
I'm not going to say never.
I don't recall a time when I'vebeen like don't film me maybe,
maybe once, but it didn't do anygood, they just filmed it
anyway.
So yeah, you get.
You don't get to call camerasdown.
I mean they try, no, it's not.
I mean that's not the deal, youknow, you sign up for reality
(12:24):
and then you've got to be real?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I just wonder, because I've seen Heather do it
yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Heather does do it.
And they filmed it anyway.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Well, I guess they filmed that or we wouldn't know
about it, right?
Is that the thing?
This, this like when Shannongoes in full heart out and says,
please, this will ruin myrelationship if you put this on
the show and they continue tofilm it anyway.
How do you feel about that?
I mean, is that my?
Do you feel like they have the?
I know they have the right to,but is that a little could they?
(12:54):
Is there some room fornegotiation in there?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
There's no room for negotiation.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
They're going to put it on.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, I mean, if they want it, it's just if it's
actually happening.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, I mean, I just think they could become buddies
with you.
Some of these producers arewith you so much during the
season that can you hook asister up here and just let me
off the hook and not put this oncamera.
But have you ever experiencedthat?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
There's so many layers to it, though I mean you
know, because I mean you know.
I mean you do the film and youknow it goes, just because it
was filmed, it still goes toediting.
I mean there's a lot of peopleand layers involved, so it's not
the people that are standingthere holding the cameras.
Decision.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
So it goes down to do you think the producer talks to
the editor and will say, hey,don't put that part on about
Shannon.
But they certainly rolled on it.
They were filming it for sure.
But I just I don't know, didthey do that at all?
Did they ever throw you a likea cookie and say, all right,
we're going to bail you out andnot show this?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
If I could get a cookie and get bailed out for
everything I've done ontelevision, don't you think I
would have done it?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You would have a box of Mimi's cookies.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Absolutely no, that's just.
You know it's not.
It's not the way it works andit's really not the way it
should work, because if youdon't want your life and your
reality to be on TV, then youshouldn't be on a reality show,
I mean it just I mean it soundslogical when I say it, but I
think a lot of people believewhen they first go on.
And Shannon's such a better andI mean she knows.
(14:34):
But but I think people who arenew especially might believe oh,
I'll just put my best footforward and just the good me
will be shown on TV.
And you know, we've all watchedenough reality to know that's
not how that goes.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, how did Shannon feel about that?
Did she say anything to youafter that about like I can't
believe they put that on?
Or did she know it was coming?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I think that she knew that stuff about her
relationship was going to comeup this season and wasn't
thrilled about it, of course,but I think she knew it was
coming.
She actually didn't seem thatupset about it.
I talk to Shannon all the timeso, yeah, I mean we're good
friends and she didn't seem thatupset.
I mean, it's complicated,though, when your relationship
(15:18):
is having challenges and it'sbeing filmed at the same time
and there's you know alcoholinvolved and, yeah, it makes for
good TV, though.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, no kidding, it's, it's scary to see.
Please don't film this, it's.
I mean, she felt just reallydesperate at the time and like
oh and they showed it.
Anyway.
I'm like man, that's, that'shardcore.
I guess you guys, I guess youknow what you're getting into
and what you're doing Remarkably.
I mean, I have not seen much ofthat with you where, oh, I bet
(15:52):
she's like bummed up that theyfilmed that.
You seem to be having a reallygood season, I mean, until this
paparazzi thing happened.
But I'm just having a prettygood season and even the show
you run before that, the girlstrip.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I had a great time filming girls trip, which is
really the instigator for methinking, ok, I really want to
do another round of reality TVand knowing that my life has
been such a different place thanit was when I was on Beverly
Hills, I feel as though it wouldbe good for the viewers to go.
Oh wait, there's life aftertragedy.
So I didn't just fall off theface of the earth and people
just think I'm still in thishorrible state.
(16:31):
So it has been a good season andgetting to know the girls.
It's been different.
I I feel like it's been adifferent role for me because I
came into an existing cast,versus being on an original cast
where the original six of us westarted our problems together
and our friendships andeverything that we all went
through.
I mean there were only five ofus that were married.
(16:52):
We had divorce in season one,season two, season three.
I mean our lives really didplay out in on Beverly Hills and
this with the Orange Countycast.
I've come into an existing castthat has past problems that I
don't know a lot of theirhistory because it's stuff that
happened so many years ago.
So it was a bit of a catch upseason for me to kind of learn
(17:14):
why are these two people, youknow, why are they at odds or
why is there some bad bloodthere and picking up the pieces
a little?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I feel like you almost got another meme with
Heather saying oh you're cute.
I mean that could be used forlike responses that people you
know when you send a meme tosomebody on text or something,
they're like oh you're cute,that's cute.
Yeah, you know now.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I realize now how often I say the word cute,
because now, every time I say it, I'm reminded of that moment,
and so I'll say, oh, that's cute, oh, you're so cute.
And then I can't help but sayit over, so it's becoming a
little catchphrase.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, you, how's your ?
I want to ask you about acouple of things that still,
heather being one of them, andthe reunion that's coming up.
What are you?
We'll talk about Heather in asecond.
I don't want to like start anyfires, but what are you
(18:13):
concerned about, or worriedabout, or just anxious about, as
you get closer to taping thereunion?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
The reunion is always anxiety provoking.
It's interesting because welive it Right, we live the show,
we live our lives, and then wewatch it back and we see
everything that we didn't knowwas being said about one another
.
And then we relive it all againon the reunion.
So it's like living it threetimes and right.
(18:45):
And so the third time, wheneveryone knows everything that
was said in the confessionals,it's stressful and people come
in with really heated emotionsand have everyone has a lot to
say.
I have a lot to say of thingsthat I didn't really understand.
As I was saying earlier, allthe undercurrents that were
going on, and now that I'vebecome friends with the ladies,
(19:08):
I know a lot more and have a lotmore opinions about some of
that, some of the past history.
But yeah, the reunion.
Shannon is excited about thereunion.
She said she loves the reunion.
She gets all pumped up for it.
So I'm trying to turn thataround.
Instead of feeling anxietyabout it, I'm trying to think
like this is an opportunity toactually speak my mind and say
(19:30):
what I really wanted to say orwhat was edited out.
That makes the story, gives thestory more layers If people
know more about the backstoryand what was going on, so
thinking of it as an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, what is there something specific you can point
to that you're really nervousabout?
That needs to play out, thatyou need to get out there.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Well, Heather and I always have had a nice
relationship and we were justalways friendly.
Hi bye friends.
We'd see each other out, and soI was shocked of all the people
that I thought I would have anychallenges with.
I never thought it would beHeather in a million years, and
so we have some explaining to doto one another on the reunion
(20:16):
and trying to sort out ourdifferences on what happened.
That became so much of a biggerdeal than I thought it would be
.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah.
So can you explain the themovie situation for everyone?
Like what just?
It seems like I'll set this upand say it seems to me like you
were in a movie, ask her if shewould want to be in it with you,
be kind of friendly.
(20:44):
If so, you would hand it offand it would get buttoned up by
the typical producers, directors, casting directors, all that
stuff but actors ask otheractors and talk to other actors
all the time about stuff likethat, and then it gets handed
off if there's a willingness.
So am I right?
So far Is that?
And then it seems like she wasgoing to help you.
(21:09):
She got an acting coach, youdid the movie, but I felt like
somewhere in that process shedecided, oh, taylor's the lead
in a movie and I'm not going tobe in some movie where she's the
lead.
I don't know it was that themisunderstanding, because I just
don't see where that went offthe rails.
I feel like you were like beingkind and generous and, by the
way, your movie is like thefirst one is done.
(21:30):
The second one you've alreadyshot some of and they're both
really good.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
But I mean, is that kind of the story, and where did
that go off the rails, I thinkthat's what we're going to have
to talk about on the reunion,because I don't really
understand how it went so faroff the rails either.
I actually thought it was acompliment and to say, hey,
there's, I know there's a roleavailable and you'd be great for
it.
And I was just, I thought,helping an actor out and saying
(21:58):
there's a job opening, and Ithink it'd be great, and I don't
understand how that got twistedaround into something negative,
so we're going to have tofigure that out.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
On the reunion you said that you told her that she
would have to do a self tape oran audition tape.
What is wrong with that?
I mean you, you did that Maybe.
I don't understand why that's awas such a rub for her.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I don't either.
I think that that's prettyindustry standard to have to
audition for a role.
So again, I don't reallyunderstand how I upset her so
badly with the whole thing and II we're going to have to talk
about it because there's a lotof clarifying to do.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Okay, I am DB.
What was your thing?
I am that bitch.
Is that the new?
That's nice, nicely done, Iknow.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Well, I mean, you know that is an actor's resume,
so I think it's something to beproud of.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
So you guys are looking at her IMDB, Talk about
as little of this as you feelcomfortable or as much as you
want, but I don't think anythingdishonest was done there.
When you and Tamera are lookingat her IMDB and it's like this
is what she's done and I don'tsee anything recent.
I don't think you guys dideither.
(23:22):
But again, what's theinfraction there?
I don't understand what the bigcontroversy was.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I don't either, and that's something that I looked
forward to asking her, becauseit really is an actor's resume.
So if that's what's out there,it's not.
I'm not digging for negativethings about her.
It's just like, okay, here'sthe IMDB.
And I didn't even look at herIMDB until the producers had
said to me that they had lookedat the IMDB and I'm like, okay,
(23:51):
well, let me look at it too.
And Tamera said, well, let'slook at it.
And that was the first time Ihad seen it.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And Tamera said inadvertently, since the 1900s,
meaning the 1990s, but stillit's pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
And she was like isn't the 1900s the 1990s?
Isn't that the 1900s?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, I mean, you can make a case for that, I suppose
.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
She's maybe not a historian, but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Right Now.
What about since then?
That seems to have cooled off.
It keeps coming up.
I keep seeing like it's ondifferent news sites and
websites and entertainment blogsand stuff.
It continues to live this movie, guardians and Masterpiece that
you're in, and it says theJenny actress, heather DeBrow,
(24:38):
which is, I guess, a TV show shewas in in the 1990s, but that's
what it keeps saying.
Is that something that she putsout there to keep like, look,
I've done some stuff too, kindof thing?
Or why does that keep coming up?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I don't know.
I haven't seen that, so I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Okay, all right.
So how is your relationship?
Obviously, you taped a lot ofshows since then, and some of
them have aired.
It seems like you guys are justworking around each other now
on the shows that have aired.
How's your relationship today?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
with Heather.
I haven't seen her since westopped filming.
I see Tamara and Shannon.
I was with Jen the other dayJen and Padrante and I had lunch
with Emily and Tamara.
So I see the girls.
(25:35):
I haven't seen Jeanne since wesaw each other at a holiday
dinner.
Actually, heather was there too, and other than that I haven't
seen the other girls but Tamara,shannon, vicki, jen.
So yeah, so the reunion will bethe first thing, the first time
I've ever seen her.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Okay, Last thing about Heather, and I want to ask
you about Jen, also yourOklahoma gal.
The last thing about Heather isthat you made a comment on Jeff
Lewis about it wasunprofessional of her not to
invite you to a party.
That now seems to have taken ona little bit of a life and she
continues to comment on that.
What is?
(26:15):
Do you feel like that wasunprofessional, since you guys
quote kind of worked together Atleast you're in the same arena
here on this, on this TV showand then why, why has she been
out of shape about that?
I mean, do you still stick bythat?
Was it unprofessional?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I feel like if you are having a party and you're
going to invite like part ofyour office, that you should
invite everyone at your office.
I just think that it'sunprofessional and it's not
something I would do.
I wouldn't include everyone andthen let people make their
decision, based on our currentrelationship status, whether
(26:53):
they want to come or not.
I just think that the properetiquette thing to do which
she's really big on etiquettewould be to invite everyone.
You know it's like not invitinglike two girls in your
kindergarten class to yourbirthday.
I just I thought it wasunprofessional and actually just
poor etiquette not to includeall of us.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And what was her reason for not inviting you?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I haven't heard her reason.
So, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, bravocon is coming up.
Are you going to see her there?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yes, but.
I'll see her at the reunionfirst Reunion's coming up.
And then BravoCon yeah, we'llall be together which it's going
to be in Vegas this year.
So we thought New York was wild, vegas should be crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I'm going to have to be when you say I just had one
drink.
It's one of those Vegas strictdrinks fluorescent.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
No, no, it's not Rick Walker, that's not happening.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Is it bad timing or good timing that the reunion's
first and then BravoCon?
Because everybody's going to bepissed at everybody now in time
, just in time for BravoCon.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I know right, and then we're going to be on panels
together and yeah, our timingis pretty uncanny that we're
going to all be togetherSeptember, and then I guess
we'll get a month of reprievebefore we see each other at
BravoCon.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah.
So when you leave a reunionyou've done them in the past
when you leave a reunion, arethings resolved, or do you leave
like really butt hurt and yourfeelings are hurt and pissed off
at people?
Does it get worse, better orthe same?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I think a lot of times you leave feeling worse.
I'm hoping that there'll besome resolution on a couple of
topics in the group on thisreunion.
I think it's possible.
But then there's some thingsthat there's so much history
there that, even though maybeyou resolve it to some extent,
(29:01):
there's still bad blood therethat probably will never go away
.
There's just some things youcan't take back.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, Wow.
Do you still have some of thosefrom like Real Housewives of
Beverly Hills or any of that,any of those relationships that
you had?
Do you still have some woundsthat never healed from episodes,
relationships or reunions?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I would say, although she has apologized to me quite
extensively, having Camille out,my abuse on camera on Beverly
Hills was something that no onecould ever take back and was
completely life changing for me.
Yeah, and that will always hurtme.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Is that where the meme came from?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
That is where the meme came from.
It was actually an episoderight after that.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Okay, yeah, wow, okay .
So Tequila shots with a gun.
Have you ever seen one of thosebefore?
By the way, the big giant gunthey were shooting to kill no,
I've never seen one of those.
That's a great idea, not foryou but a great idea.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Well, I think it was actually just a regular water
gun.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
But leave it to Shannon.
Of course, we got to fill it upwith Tequila.
Well, listen, we should getwith.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Shannon and you and Tamara, and let's put together
Tequila shot and market those.
I mean, it's just a water gun,but just put a little label on
it.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Right, you know the Trace, amiga should do it.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, oh, no kidding.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
They just have a Trace Amiga's gun.
We had so much fun at theimprov last time they performed.
It was great.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, so Vicki's there too at those things when
they do the improv things, andhow is not on stage and on the
show and everything.
But how has it been filmingwith her and have you got to
know her?
Have you even filmed with herthat much?
I don't think she's on thatmuch this season.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, but I knew Vicki prior to going on Orange
County.
So yeah, I mean well, we didultimate girls trip together too
, and she wasn't having shedidn't have a great trip on
ultimate girls because it just alot of stuff going on in our
personal lives so she didn't getto be like the whooped up fun,
vicki, but yeah, but we have fun.
It was funny because I was atShannon's and it was Tamara,
(31:08):
shannon, vicki and me and theywere practicing for Trace
Amiga's before the first showand they were singing their
their little song that Shannonwrote and they're just horrible,
yeah, and I'm videoing them andI was like you guys are
horrible, just so you knowyou're horrible, but it wouldn't
be funny if they were great.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Right, you know it's better that they're horrible.
Yeah, absolutely yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
And they're so cute in their little, their little
sombreros and these outfits theycome on.
They're great.
They're really fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
The audience responded well, I assume.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
The audience loved it Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I don't think they would be there, who would go if
you weren't, if you weren't intoit, and it'd be funny, you know
so.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, they did have a ton of.
They filmed some footage thatwas off stage, some behind the
scenes kind of stuff.
That's really funny and JeffLewis was there with me.
We sat together and we had alot of good laughs with them.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You had a good, good episode with Jeff.
I heard the podcast a couple ofwhere it was a couple of weeks
ago, I don't know, but I thoughtthat was.
I thought that went well yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
He's great.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, he's, I love Jeff.
So let me ask you about yourOklahoma connection on Real
House Wise of Orange County, Jen, what?
What have you learned aboutthat relationship there?
And well, first of all, how areyou and do you guys get along?
Is it because you're Oki's oris that just kind of like, oh
(32:38):
God, I roll?
And then what's going on withher relationship?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
So Jen and I hit it off immediately.
There was a lunch that wefilmed at my house.
It didn't end up making the air, but that's the first time I
met her and got to hear herstory and I just thought this
woman's like Mother Teresa.
I mean, she adopts children,she fosters animals.
She's, she's just this amazinghumanitarian and I just I fell
(33:06):
in love with her instantly andshe definitely has that
Midwestern, just sweet andreally great values.
And my goodness, she got thatgirl got run over this season
and I have to applaud her forbeing able to keep her head up
and get through it, because, not, it's stressful enough to be
your rookie season but then yourwhole relationship exploding on
(33:31):
camera and all of her personallife.
I mean, people usually get toease into it a little bit, but
she just I mean that dump truckbacked up and just poured it all
over this season and I wasproud of her.
She's strong to be able to getthrough all of that.
Especially, you know she's alsomanaging a house full of kids
and you know her own personallife.
(33:52):
But yeah, we hit it offimmediately.
I was just with her not longago and she and Ryan are doing
great.
They have been able to weatherthis storm and maybe in some
ways, it's made them strongerbecause they've had to, you know
, rely on each other and reallybond in order to get through it
(34:12):
because I don't think a lot ofcouples would.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Well, we'll talk about on the next episode of
this show.
We'll talk more about what'sgoing on currently on the show
and in a couple of other Bravoshows and stuff too.
I just wanted to get all.
There's so many questions goingon about what's going on with
you and everything right now, soI wanted to get the stuff out
about your movies and yourpaparazzi show that you should
(34:36):
take that on the road.
I mean, take that to Vegas withyou.
Bravo Good stick.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
You know, Rick, I really like to just perform new
material once that I let it go.
You know I can't really repeatthe.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
That's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I can't repeat that talented exhibition I put on
there.
But it is also fun because I'mstarting to get my schedule for
BravoCon and I look forward toseeing all the people from the
other shows.
So that was really fun lastyear getting to see the Beverly.
Hills girls and then getting tomeet the people from Below Deck
, and so I'm starting to get myschedule and seeing who I'm
(35:17):
going to be paired up with onthings.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
And when is it?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
It is November 4th, 3rd, 4th, 5th.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Wow, did it wear you out last time?
Is it an exhausting three days?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yes, the days are really long, and then the fun
part about it is all the Bravopeople.
We all stay in the same hotel,so after the day is done we all
get to spend time together andhave lots more fun.
So that adds some additionalhours to the day, for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I think we covered everything.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
All right, good Podcast out.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah, possibly we'll connect back up again here in
just a few days and catch up.
Maybe let's get another episodeon Bravo TV under our belt of
Real Housewives of Orange Countyand then we'll come back and we
can legally talk about that andstuff.
All right, sister, good to seeyou.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
All right, Good to see you Taki the Raw Show with
Rick and Taylor.
It's a little right and a lot wrong.
The Raw Show with Rick.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Walker and Taylor Armstrong.
Now here's Rick and Taylor.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome back to the Raw Show.
I'm Rick, that's Taylor, okay,so I got to jump right in.
I've got so many questions youready.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm ready All right.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
First thing, paparazzi, apple fam, we got.
I.
What, what have I tried to tellyou?
What have I talked to you aboutfor decades?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I know, I know, but you know what you give me a
martini and some paparazzi andthings are going to go right.
You know that about me.
You just need to send ababysitter with me, maybe a
nanny, something along thoselines.
You need a manny.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Now John was like right there, but I saw him start
to ease away.
He's learned over the years,yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Just leave me standing there by myself.
Yeah, I'm going to fool out ofmyself.
I know, I know.
So you were coming out of whatA restaurant?
A party.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You're coming out of Craigs, where there's always
paparazzi and I should knowbetter.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Right, I should go to different places in my friend's
restaurant and support him.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yes, now so how much drinking is going on?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
You know, what's interesting about it is, I
literally had one drink and Ihad.
We hadn't eaten dinner yet, andso I think that was part of the
problem One large drink.
No, I really only had one drink, and it's a John, and I were
like, wait a minute, that wasweird.
I only had one drink and youknow that's not much for me.
Yeah, you can usually hold alot more than one Easy.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Is it a big Vegas?
One of those big like like what?
So what?
What were you drinking?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I had a martini.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
And so how long did the interview go on out there?
You had like a whole show goingon Well here was the problem.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
We thought our car service was there and I was just
going to hook it outside andjump into the car and be gone,
and then all of a sudden the carwasn't there, so I was stuck.
So then, you know, I just, Idon't know, I turn it on and
then I can't turn it off.
I don't know what to say, but Iblame the car service.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
The car service.
You got to time that muchbetter.
I totally agree with that.
You got to get that that timingto be out there before you exit
and then just go.
Hey on the way.
I think that was your plan,right.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
That was the plan, and then the plan got foiled,
and then I was stuck, and then Ihave to be overly animated, and
then you know.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So do you remember what they were asking you?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well, no, the one guy was saying he's like oh, I
Googled her and I'm like Don'ttake pictures of me If you're
going to have to Google me.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So that's a good thing about Orange County is we
don't have paparazzi.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh good, and where was that that?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
was in LA.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Oh, you said you're still good in LA, then you'd be
good yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, exactly, I just have to stay in hiding in my
beach town.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Now do you get anxiety when this stuff comes
out, when you're like, oh gosh,what did I do last night?
Oh, outside a restaurant,paparazzi, I put on a little bit
of a show.
Do you get anxious about that,or nervous, or for a day even,
and then the new cycle kind ofwinds up and it starts to move
away a little bit.
But during that moment how doyou feel?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I'm typically like, oh no, what have I done now and
then?
But I don't like to recount anyof it because I figure whatever
I did, it's done, it's in thecan, as we say, you know, and I
just have to.
I think people know that I'm Ican be a little wacky, so I'm
(03:58):
not sure that it's a big shockto anyone, so I just have to.
I mean, for a day I'm probablylike oh yeah, yeah, and then I
just go oh well, whatever,what's another day in my life?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I love when they grab the screenshots where you're
like it's like okay, and thenthey make those the picture of
the headline and the you knowwhatever paper I know.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I do have a very animated facial.
You know different things thatI do with my face.
I'm very expressive.
And so they usually get thosepretty good screenshots, you
know, I mean, the cat memedidn't come out of nowhere,
right, that's true.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I know pretty soon you're going to have another.
It's going to be another meal.
Hourenary Asks for somethingtolass and a coach and a dog.
Ia me, I'm going to do this formyself, so you're going to be
there for a routine sessionwhere I do like pretty good рос
from the beginning, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
You know laser was armor around right.
The laser was Whaacking tolerit was.
It's pretty communicationsgetting.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Carrie in place.
It was a really good 놀�.
So they they put real time.
It was really a so they broughtreal time.
They brought real time, theybrought real time.
It's going to be another meme.
I was expecting your meme tostart showing up with Trump's
mugshot.
Not that we want to get offinto politics, but I figured
there would be some kind ofcombo crossover meme going on.
Have you seen any of those yet?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I haven't, but I wouldn't be surprised.
I mean, they've done so manycreative things over the years
with the meme that you know.
I'm sure Trump will be nextmugshot.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
All right, Let me ask you about some housewife stuff
then.
Okay, I saw Kennedy on the showwith her friend and she looked
like my 17-year-old daughterswhen they were like, okay, as if
you know, I mean, was she likeexcited to be on?
Was it like enough?
What'd she say about it?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
She's funny.
I mean she does it, but she is.
She kind of coaxes me a littlelike right before they mic her,
before we film, she'll be like,yeah, I don't think I want to do
it, I'm like you're doing it.
I have news You're getting mic'dright now.
Okay, like, don't let me committo something and then back out
at the last minute.
So she's a negotiator.
(06:11):
She'll be like, okay, well,I'll do it, but then I want this
in return.
Like, I want to go shopping.
I'm like she waits for the verylast minute when they're just
about to put a mic on her, andI'm typically already mic'd.
And so what am I going to say?
Like no, I'm not taking yourshopping.
You know I have a hot micmoment.
No, so I just shake my hand,yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
That's brilliant.
That's good.
Negotiating on her part that'sawesome yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
No, she's good, she's always a negotiator Kennedy's
smart like a fox.
So when?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
we were kids and the parents or the adults would go
hey, this is Billy, go off andplay with.
This is Robin, go off.
This is Susan, go off and playwith them.
I didn't ever want to go dothat and I felt like that
happened on the show.
They hit that.
That who, whose kid was it thatshowed up?
That 14 year old guy orwhatever?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Jen Pedranti's son.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Okay, jen's son, and yeah.
And then there was like, okay,you guys go.
I could just feel Kennedy going.
I don't know what to do.
Would she feel like she wasbabysitting him, or what Well,
and she so.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
That's why she took her friend Alexis because, she
when I asked her if she would goshe's like.
I think you want me to go hangout with some guy I don't even
know and she's like I'm taking afriend and I'm like, okay, you
would take a friend then.
Yeah, so that's good it wouldhave been awkward if the two of
them just would have walked offtogether.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, jen's son and Kennedy.
Good move.
So she went and of course, gotthe kid drunk right.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
No, not true, but they, I think they had fun
filming, just goofing around.
Yeah, it was fun, good, okay,so it's been fun too.
People have been sweet onsocial media about seeing her
you know, being so small becausethey've done some flashbacks
and then seeing her now.
(08:06):
So it's been, it's been cute.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
It's cool to see her.
I, you know, always likeKennedy, even when she like
makes up and calls me names andmakes up names for me and just
like I.
One time I came out and this Iwas at Taylor's house one time
and came out of the kitchen andHolly was with me and I'm
(08:29):
holding two plates, one for her,one for me and she goes I'm
going to call you combo and Ithink she thought all that food
was for me and it might havebeen.
I was like 300 pounds, so itmight have been.
But ever since that day andthat was like what?
15 years ago, whatever, maybenot bad, she's 70.
So it was probably 10 years ago.
She, that nickname it's likeeven around my house, is like
(08:52):
hey, combo.
Every time I get some a platefull of.
So thanks, thanks, kennedy,thanks.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Right, I remember that day very specifically.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Combo.
I'm going to call him combo,all right.
So there's so much coming upWe've got.
I want to ask you about theshot, the tequila shots, that's.
That's a weapon you got to stayaway from.
First of all, what was that?
What did you fell down?
Did you hurt yourself?
(09:24):
Explain that whole what did we?
Not see on that show.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
If, okay, if Tamer judge was chasing you with a gun
, you'd run too.
Any kind of gun, a tequila gun,water gun, god forbid a gun
with bullets you'd be runningtoo.
So I rounded the corner and ofcourse I'm in stilettos and you
know that just isn't going to gowell.
So I did have a little fall.
I didn't get hurt, but I was.
(09:49):
I mean, I was a little bitscared.
I don't want Tamer runningafter me.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
How many falls have you had?
Seriously, let's count them up.
I mean just just guess in inthe last, I don't know.
Since you've been on housewivesI've never I don't remember
seeing you fall on the show, butI'm sure I mean I've been with
you when you've fallen down.
I don't know how you don'tbreak you're like this big how
you don't break a knee or a bow.
Have you ever injured yourself?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You know, I'm pretty Brazilian, I think the whole key
is to not be in stilettos, youknow, if that is just, it's a
dangerous combination anyway,and so I get myself in a little
bit of trouble.
I should start wearing flats.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, you should, that's never going to happen.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It's a little pair of sneakers.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
That's never going to happen.
You know those kind that youslip in.
You see the TV commercials, youjust kind of slide in, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
If I start wearing those, you need to come rescue
me.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Oh God, no kidding, I will.
I will.
Unless there's a littlesponsorship dollar involved,
then you know we'll make anexception.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, that's true.
Everything is an exception withsponsorship dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Right, okay.
So I have a question, becauseI've been in broadcasting for my
whole life and when someonesays, don't film this, you can't
put this on the TV show I don'tknow what happens on reality
shows, but Shannon sure saidthat and they continue to film
(11:16):
from a camera, like over there.
So what's the rule there andwhat can they get away with and
what did they do?
Anything wrong Like what goeson there?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I think it's interesting because if you're
going to be on a reality show,then you need to be real and you
need to show your reality.
And I think with my lifehistory that's pretty evident
that my reality was definitelyon television.
So I don't know why people saylike you can't film this because
that's not how it works.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
So I've seen some people say like, like.
I think I saw Heather saycameras down, cameras go down,
and she wouldn't let him filmstuff.
And yet Shannon said that andthey continued filming and then
it made.
It was on the show of last week.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, I've never, to my knowledge.
I'm not going to say never.
I don't recall a time when I'vebeen like don't film me maybe,
maybe once, but it didn't do anygood, they just filmed it
anyway.
So yeah, you get.
You don't get to call camerasdown.
I mean they try, no, it's not.
I mean that's not the deal, youknow, you sign up for reality
(12:24):
and then you've got to be real?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I just wonder, because I've seen Heather do it
yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Heather does do it.
And they filmed it anyway.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Well, I guess they filmed that or we wouldn't know
about it, right?
Is that the thing?
This, this like when Shannongoes in full heart out and says,
please, this will ruin myrelationship if you put this on
the show and they continue tofilm it anyway.
How do you feel about that?
I mean, is that my?
Do you feel like they have the?
I know they have the right to,but is that a little could they?
(12:54):
Is there some room fornegotiation in there?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
There's no room for negotiation.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
They're going to put it on.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, I mean, if they want it, it's just if it's
actually happening.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, I mean, I just think they could become buddies
with you.
Some of these producers arewith you so much during the
season that can you hook asister up here and just let me
off the hook and not put this oncamera.
But have you ever experiencedthat?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
There's so many layers to it, though I mean you
know, because I mean you know.
I mean you do the film and youknow it goes, just because it
was filmed, it still goes toediting.
I mean there's a lot of peopleand layers involved, so it's not
the people that are standingthere holding the cameras.
Decision.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
So it goes down to do you think the producer talks to
the editor and will say, hey,don't put that part on about
Shannon.
But they certainly rolled on it.
They were filming it for sure.
But I just I don't know, didthey do that at all?
Did they ever throw you a likea cookie and say, all right,
we're going to bail you out andnot show this?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
If I could get a cookie and get bailed out for
everything I've done ontelevision, don't you think I
would have done it?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You would have a box of Mimi's cookies.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Absolutely no, that's just.
You know it's not.
It's not the way it works andit's really not the way it
should work, because if youdon't want your life and your
reality to be on TV, then youshouldn't be on a reality show,
I mean it just I mean it soundslogical when I say it, but I
think a lot of people believewhen they first go on.
And Shannon's such a better andI mean she knows.
(14:34):
But but I think people who arenew especially might believe oh,
I'll just put my best footforward and just the good me
will be shown on TV.
And you know, we've all watchedenough reality to know that's
not how that goes.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, how did Shannon feel about that?
Did she say anything to youafter that about like I can't
believe they put that on?
Or did she know it was coming?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I think that she knew that stuff about her
relationship was going to comeup this season and wasn't
thrilled about it, of course,but I think she knew it was
coming.
She actually didn't seem thatupset about it.
I talk to Shannon all the timeso, yeah, I mean we're good
friends and she didn't seem thatupset.
I mean, it's complicated,though, when your relationship
(15:18):
is having challenges and it'sbeing filmed at the same time
and there's you know alcoholinvolved and, yeah, it makes for
good TV, though.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, no kidding, it's, it's scary to see.
Please don't film this, it's.
I mean, she felt just reallydesperate at the time and like
oh and they showed it.
Anyway.
I'm like man, that's, that'shardcore.
I guess you guys, I guess youknow what you're getting into
and what you're doing Remarkably.
I mean, I have not seen much ofthat with you where, oh, I bet
(15:52):
she's like bummed up that theyfilmed that.
You seem to be having a reallygood season, I mean, until this
paparazzi thing happened.
But I'm just having a prettygood season and even the show
you run before that, the girlstrip.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I had a great time filming girls trip, which is
really the instigator for methinking, ok, I really want to
do another round of reality TVand knowing that my life has
been such a different place thanit was when I was on Beverly
Hills, I feel as though it wouldbe good for the viewers to go.
Oh wait, there's life aftertragedy.
So I didn't just fall off theface of the earth and people
just think I'm still in thishorrible state.
(16:31):
So it has been a good season andgetting to know the girls.
It's been different.
I I feel like it's been adifferent role for me because I
came into an existing cast,versus being on an original cast
where the original six of us westarted our problems together
and our friendships andeverything that we all went
through.
I mean there were only five ofus that were married.
(16:52):
We had divorce in season one,season two, season three.
I mean our lives really didplay out in on Beverly Hills and
this with the Orange Countycast.
I've come into an existing castthat has past problems that I
don't know a lot of theirhistory because it's stuff that
happened so many years ago.
So it was a bit of a catch upseason for me to kind of learn
(17:14):
why are these two people, youknow, why are they at odds or
why is there some bad bloodthere and picking up the pieces
a little?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I feel like you almost got another meme with
Heather saying oh you're cute.
I mean that could be used forlike responses that people you
know when you send a meme tosomebody on text or something,
they're like oh you're cute,that's cute.
Yeah, you know now.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I realize now how often I say the word cute,
because now, every time I say it, I'm reminded of that moment,
and so I'll say, oh, that's cute, oh, you're so cute.
And then I can't help but sayit over, so it's becoming a
little catchphrase.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, you, how's your ?
I want to ask you about acouple of things that still,
heather being one of them, andthe reunion that's coming up.
What are you?
We'll talk about Heather in asecond.
I don't want to like start anyfires, but what are you
(18:13):
concerned about, or worriedabout, or just anxious about, as
you get closer to taping thereunion?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
The reunion is always anxiety provoking.
It's interesting because welive it Right, we live the show,
we live our lives, and then wewatch it back and we see
everything that we didn't knowwas being said about one another
.
And then we relive it all againon the reunion.
So it's like living it threetimes and right.
(18:45):
And so the third time, wheneveryone knows everything that
was said in the confessionals,it's stressful and people come
in with really heated emotionsand have everyone has a lot to
say.
I have a lot to say of thingsthat I didn't really understand.
As I was saying earlier, allthe undercurrents that were
going on, and now that I'vebecome friends with the ladies,
(19:08):
I know a lot more and have a lotmore opinions about some of
that, some of the past history.
But yeah, the reunion.
Shannon is excited about thereunion.
She said she loves the reunion.
She gets all pumped up for it.
So I'm trying to turn thataround.
Instead of feeling anxietyabout it, I'm trying to think
like this is an opportunity toactually speak my mind and say
(19:30):
what I really wanted to say orwhat was edited out.
That makes the story, gives thestory more layers If people
know more about the backstoryand what was going on, so
thinking of it as an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, what is there something specific you can point
to that you're really nervousabout?
That needs to play out, thatyou need to get out there.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Well, Heather and I always have had a nice
relationship and we were justalways friendly.
Hi bye friends.
We'd see each other out, and soI was shocked of all the people
that I thought I would have anychallenges with.
I never thought it would beHeather in a million years, and
so we have some explaining to doto one another on the reunion
(20:16):
and trying to sort out ourdifferences on what happened.
That became so much of a biggerdeal than I thought it would be
.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah.
So can you explain the themovie situation for everyone?
Like what just?
It seems like I'll set this upand say it seems to me like you
were in a movie, ask her if shewould want to be in it with you,
be kind of friendly.
(20:44):
If so, you would hand it offand it would get buttoned up by
the typical producers, directors, casting directors, all that
stuff but actors ask otheractors and talk to other actors
all the time about stuff likethat, and then it gets handed
off if there's a willingness.
So am I right?
So far Is that?
And then it seems like she wasgoing to help you.
(21:09):
She got an acting coach, youdid the movie, but I felt like
somewhere in that process shedecided, oh, taylor's the lead
in a movie and I'm not going tobe in some movie where she's the
lead.
I don't know it was that themisunderstanding, because I just
don't see where that went offthe rails.
I feel like you were like beingkind and generous and, by the
way, your movie is like thefirst one is done.
(21:30):
The second one you've alreadyshot some of and they're both
really good.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
But I mean, is that kind of the story, and where did
that go off the rails, I thinkthat's what we're going to have
to talk about on the reunion,because I don't really
understand how it went so faroff the rails either.
I actually thought it was acompliment and to say, hey,
there's, I know there's a roleavailable and you'd be great for
it.
And I was just, I thought,helping an actor out and saying
(21:58):
there's a job opening, and Ithink it'd be great, and I don't
understand how that got twistedaround into something negative,
so we're going to have tofigure that out.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
On the reunion you said that you told her that she
would have to do a self tape oran audition tape.
What is wrong with that?
I mean you, you did that Maybe.
I don't understand why that's awas such a rub for her.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I don't either.
I think that that's prettyindustry standard to have to
audition for a role.
So again, I don't reallyunderstand how I upset her so
badly with the whole thing and II we're going to have to talk
about it because there's a lotof clarifying to do.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Okay, I am DB.
What was your thing?
I am that bitch.
Is that the new?
That's nice, nicely done, Iknow.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Well, I mean, you know that is an actor's resume,
so I think it's something to beproud of.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
So you guys are looking at her IMDB, Talk about
as little of this as you feelcomfortable or as much as you
want, but I don't think anythingdishonest was done there.
When you and Tamera are lookingat her IMDB and it's like this
is what she's done and I don'tsee anything recent.
I don't think you guys dideither.
(23:22):
But again, what's theinfraction there?
I don't understand what the bigcontroversy was.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I don't either, and that's something that I looked
forward to asking her, becauseit really is an actor's resume.
So if that's what's out there,it's not.
I'm not digging for negativethings about her.
It's just like, okay, here'sthe IMDB.
And I didn't even look at herIMDB until the producers had
said to me that they had lookedat the IMDB and I'm like, okay,
(23:51):
well, let me look at it too.
And Tamera said, well, let'slook at it.
And that was the first time Ihad seen it.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And Tamera said inadvertently, since the 1900s,
meaning the 1990s, but stillit's pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
And she was like isn't the 1900s the 1990s?
Isn't that the 1900s?
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, I mean, you can make a case for that, I suppose
.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
She's maybe not a historian, but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Right Now.
What about since then?
That seems to have cooled off.
It keeps coming up.
I keep seeing like it's ondifferent news sites and
websites and entertainment blogsand stuff.
It continues to live this movie, guardians and Masterpiece that
you're in, and it says theJenny actress, heather DeBrow,
(24:38):
which is, I guess, a TV show shewas in in the 1990s, but that's
what it keeps saying.
Is that something that she putsout there to keep like, look,
I've done some stuff too, kindof thing?
Or why does that keep coming up?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I don't know.
I haven't seen that, so I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Okay, all right.
So how is your relationship?
Obviously, you taped a lot ofshows since then, and some of
them have aired.
It seems like you guys are justworking around each other now
on the shows that have aired.
How's your relationship today?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
with Heather.
I haven't seen her since westopped filming.
I see Tamara and Shannon.
I was with Jen the other dayJen and Padrante and I had lunch
with Emily and Tamara.
So I see the girls.
(25:35):
I haven't seen Jeanne since wesaw each other at a holiday
dinner.
Actually, heather was there too, and other than that I haven't
seen the other girls but Tamara,shannon, vicki, jen.
So yeah, so the reunion will bethe first thing, the first time
I've ever seen her.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Okay, Last thing about Heather, and I want to ask
you about Jen, also yourOklahoma gal.
The last thing about Heather isthat you made a comment on Jeff
Lewis about it wasunprofessional of her not to
invite you to a party.
That now seems to have taken ona little bit of a life and she
continues to comment on that.
What is?
(26:15):
Do you feel like that wasunprofessional, since you guys
quote kind of worked together Atleast you're in the same arena
here on this, on this TV showand then why, why has she been
out of shape about that?
I mean, do you still stick bythat?
Was it unprofessional?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I feel like if you are having a party and you're
going to invite like part ofyour office, that you should
invite everyone at your office.
I just think that it'sunprofessional and it's not
something I would do.
I wouldn't include everyone andthen let people make their
decision, based on our currentrelationship status, whether
(26:53):
they want to come or not.
I just think that the properetiquette thing to do which
she's really big on etiquettewould be to invite everyone.
You know it's like not invitinglike two girls in your
kindergarten class to yourbirthday.
I just I thought it wasunprofessional and actually just
poor etiquette not to includeall of us.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And what was her reason for not inviting you?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I haven't heard her reason.
So, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, bravocon is coming up.
Are you going to see her there?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yes, but.
I'll see her at the reunionfirst Reunion's coming up.
And then BravoCon yeah, we'llall be together which it's going
to be in Vegas this year.
So we thought New York was wild, vegas should be crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I'm going to have to be when you say I just had one
drink.
It's one of those Vegas strictdrinks fluorescent.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
No, no, it's not Rick Walker, that's not happening.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Is it bad timing or good timing that the reunion's
first and then BravoCon?
Because everybody's going to bepissed at everybody now in time
, just in time for BravoCon.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I know right, and then we're going to be on panels
together and yeah, our timingis pretty uncanny that we're
going to all be togetherSeptember, and then I guess
we'll get a month of reprievebefore we see each other at
BravoCon.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah.
So when you leave a reunionyou've done them in the past
when you leave a reunion, arethings resolved, or do you leave
like really butt hurt and yourfeelings are hurt and pissed off
at people?
Does it get worse, better orthe same?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I think a lot of times you leave feeling worse.
I'm hoping that there'll besome resolution on a couple of
topics in the group on thisreunion.
I think it's possible.
But then there's some thingsthat there's so much history
there that, even though maybeyou resolve it to some extent,
(29:01):
there's still bad blood therethat probably will never go away
.
There's just some things youcan't take back.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, Wow.
Do you still have some of thosefrom like Real Housewives of
Beverly Hills or any of that,any of those relationships that
you had?
Do you still have some woundsthat never healed from episodes,
relationships or reunions?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I would say, although she has apologized to me quite
extensively, having Camille out,my abuse on camera on Beverly
Hills was something that no onecould ever take back and was
completely life changing for me.
Yeah, and that will always hurtme.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Is that where the meme came from?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
That is where the meme came from.
It was actually an episoderight after that.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Okay, yeah, wow, okay .
So Tequila shots with a gun.
Have you ever seen one of thosebefore?
By the way, the big giant gunthey were shooting to kill no,
I've never seen one of those.
That's a great idea, not foryou but a great idea.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Well, I think it was actually just a regular water
gun.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
But leave it to Shannon.
Of course, we got to fill it upwith Tequila.
Well, listen, we should getwith.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Shannon and you and Tamara, and let's put together
Tequila shot and market those.
I mean, it's just a water gun,but just put a little label on
it.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Right, you know the Trace, amiga should do it.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, oh, no kidding.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
They just have a Trace Amiga's gun.
We had so much fun at theimprov last time they performed.
It was great.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, so Vicki's there too at those things when
they do the improv things, andhow is not on stage and on the
show and everything.
But how has it been filmingwith her and have you got to
know her?
Have you even filmed with herthat much?
I don't think she's on thatmuch this season.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, but I knew Vicki prior to going on Orange
County.
So yeah, I mean well, we didultimate girls trip together too
, and she wasn't having shedidn't have a great trip on
ultimate girls because it just alot of stuff going on in our
personal lives so she didn't getto be like the whooped up fun,
vicki, but yeah, but we have fun.
It was funny because I was atShannon's and it was Tamara,
(31:08):
shannon, vicki and me and theywere practicing for Trace
Amiga's before the first showand they were singing their
their little song that Shannonwrote and they're just horrible,
yeah, and I'm videoing them andI was like you guys are
horrible, just so you knowyou're horrible, but it wouldn't
be funny if they were great.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Right, you know it's better that they're horrible.
Yeah, absolutely yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
And they're so cute in their little, their little
sombreros and these outfits theycome on.
They're great.
They're really fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
The audience responded well, I assume.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
The audience loved it Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I don't think they would be there, who would go if
you weren't, if you weren't intoit, and it'd be funny, you know
so.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, they did have a ton of.
They filmed some footage thatwas off stage, some behind the
scenes kind of stuff.
That's really funny and JeffLewis was there with me.
We sat together and we had alot of good laughs with them.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You had a good, good episode with Jeff.
I heard the podcast a couple ofwhere it was a couple of weeks
ago, I don't know, but I thoughtthat was.
I thought that went well yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
He's great.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, he's, I love Jeff.
So let me ask you about yourOklahoma connection on Real
House Wise of Orange County, Jen, what?
What have you learned aboutthat relationship there?
And well, first of all, how areyou and do you guys get along?
Is it because you're Oki's oris that just kind of like, oh
(32:38):
God, I roll?
And then what's going on withher relationship?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
So Jen and I hit it off immediately.
There was a lunch that wefilmed at my house.
It didn't end up making the air, but that's the first time I
met her and got to hear herstory and I just thought this
woman's like Mother Teresa.
I mean, she adopts children,she fosters animals.
She's, she's just this amazinghumanitarian and I just I fell
(33:06):
in love with her instantly andshe definitely has that
Midwestern, just sweet andreally great values.
And my goodness, she got thatgirl got run over this season
and I have to applaud her forbeing able to keep her head up
and get through it, because, not, it's stressful enough to be
your rookie season but then yourwhole relationship exploding on
(33:31):
camera and all of her personallife.
I mean, people usually get toease into it a little bit, but
she just I mean that dump truckbacked up and just poured it all
over this season and I wasproud of her.
She's strong to be able to getthrough all of that.
Especially, you know she's alsomanaging a house full of kids
and you know her own personallife.
(33:52):
But yeah, we hit it offimmediately.
I was just with her not longago and she and Ryan are doing
great.
They have been able to weatherthis storm and maybe in some
ways, it's made them strongerbecause they've had to, you know
, rely on each other and reallybond in order to get through it
(34:12):
because I don't think a lot ofcouples would.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Well, we'll talk about on the next episode of
this show.
We'll talk more about what'sgoing on currently on the show
and in a couple of other Bravoshows and stuff too.
I just wanted to get all.
There's so many questions goingon about what's going on with
you and everything right now, soI wanted to get the stuff out
about your movies and yourpaparazzi show that you should
(34:36):
take that on the road.
I mean, take that to Vegas withyou.
Bravo Good stick.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
You know, Rick, I really like to just perform new
material once that I let it go.
You know I can't really repeatthe.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
That's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I can't repeat that talented exhibition I put on
there.
But it is also fun because I'mstarting to get my schedule for
BravoCon and I look forward toseeing all the people from the
other shows.
So that was really fun lastyear getting to see the Beverly.
Hills girls and then getting tomeet the people from Below Deck
, and so I'm starting to get myschedule and seeing who I'm
(35:17):
going to be paired up with onthings.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
And when is it?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
It is November 4th, 3rd, 4th, 5th.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Wow, did it wear you out last time?
Is it an exhausting three days?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yes, the days are really long, and then the fun
part about it is all the Bravopeople.
We all stay in the same hotel,so after the day is done we all
get to spend time together andhave lots more fun.
So that adds some additionalhours to the day, for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I think we covered everything.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
All right, good Podcast out.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah, possibly we'll connect back up again here in
just a few days and catch up.
Maybe let's get another episodeon Bravo TV under our belt of
Real Housewives of Orange Countyand then we'll come back and we
can legally talk about that andstuff.
All right, sister, good to seeyou.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
All right, Good to see you Taki the Raw Show with
Rick and Taylor.
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