It's All About Perspective

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(00:18):
Yeah.
A year.
Yeah.
It's the insane Martin Payne.
My fault, my fault wrong.
It's your host.
Raimundo welcome to my show.
Where we relate.
Demonstrate positivity.
Learn some shit and have somefun in a progress.
I have some fun in the process.

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But this is episode 47.

Raymundo (00:43):
It's all about perspective
This is an episode that you needto hear.
But before you do that, don'tforget to like subscribe, leave
a review.
Let them know that you love moonthough, too.
But.
Before we get into that, let'sget into that.
Let's go let's go.

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The quote of the day is fromChris pine.
The only thing you sometimeshave control over.
His perspective.
You don't have control over yoursituation.
But you have a choice about howyou view it.
That's deep man.
Cause.
If you only focus.
On what happened?
Especially if the situationwasn't good.

(01:32):
you won't get the lesson from itYour focus on what didn't go,
right.
And never forget.
Sometimes blessing.
Comes disguise as.
A disaster.
But you gotta be able to see ina perspective helps you do that.
Right?
Because.
I used to complain about nothaving the shoes.
Uh, wanted until I met a manwith no feet.

(01:54):
Something around those lines.
Right.
and think about that.
There's people that havedisabilities that are missing
limbs.
And they still have a greatperspective.
On life.
They may have lost something,but they gained.
I love for life.
And sometimes bad situationsforce you to do that.
it's important to recognize it,be aware of it, embrace it and

(02:17):
walk into the walk into thatroom.
Yeah.
Ma'am.
And have the perspective thatyou have right now and working
for you.
You have the ability to changeit?
I see things.
How you would want it to be.
It fear and other factors.
Stifle your vision.
Your belief.
Your hope that you can live thelife that you want to live.
When you stop playing games.

(02:39):
But yeah, man, let's get intothe episode.
Got a special guests.
Great talk Let's go
On this episode, I have a guest coming to the show
that I couldn't wait for us tomake this happen.
Cause every time, you know whatI'm saying, we together as a
movie ever since we were 14years old, I literally cannot

(02:59):
tell.
I don't even know when was thelast time I saw my brother.
And they don't even feel like,no days has went by.
That's how you know it's realman.
But I've been seeing my brothermake moves inspiring me, but
like keeping low key about it.
Not even being a bragger, buthe's my brother.
He was my shooting guard when wewas on the basketball team.

(03:19):
You know what I'm saying?
Who is that?
A ship.
Yeah.
I know him as automatic But theworld knows him.
Ass Welcome to the show brother.
Thanks for having

ryan (03:35):
me, bro.
Appreciate you.

Raymundo (03:37):
Really.
No doubt man.
Yo, I I really, every time youcomment on something, I, I just
kept saying, that's one thingabout us.
Like if we know we doingsomething, it's automatic
support.
It's not even on something like,oh, let me see what he's doing.
Like mm-hmm.
I don't know.
Fuck your brand Fuck.
That was the brand.
and I bought, fuck yo, I boughta, a face mask that said

(04:00):
smiling.
Everybody love that shit, man.
But I didn't even think it waslike, you know what?
I can afford this.
Let me get this.
In the future, I'll definitelydo more, man.
But yo, what's good brother?
You here You want the no show,man.

ryan (04:13):
It, it is principle's a blessing, man.
Just to be on a, be able to talkto you.
How you said, man, we haven'tseen each other.
What been over a decade?
Um, got kids and I really stillfeel connected to you, bro.
Like while we were still like14, 15, you know, advisory.
I've been good man.
Like I said, just thanks forhaving me on here, man.
I've been, Tune it in.
I've been, I've been commenting,I've been laughing out.

(04:34):
Share.
I, I tune to, I actually go to,um, I subscribe, I watch it.
So my brother, this a

Raymundo (04:41):
blessing, man.
Thank you.
Yo, let's give it up for thesupport, man.
And you know, if you haven'tnoticed, the trend has been the
people that's been on the showare the ones that have been
showing support on the load andit's been affecting me going
forward when I have thosemoments where I want to be like,
I don't know if I could do this,but those comments, those yo
Ray, this is you, yo, youkilling it.

(05:02):
Like, I, that shit, you knowwhat I mean?
It helps out a lot.
So, so it's good to have you onthe show.
That's, and so far everybodythat's been here, besides the
guests, I, they know, you knowwhat I'm saying?
It's all family.
All

ryan (05:13):
family, bro.
And, and, and that's the bestthing about this is that I get
to deal with somebody I know andI love and I appreciate and it's
family.
You know,

Raymundo (05:22):
that's the best love life we.

ryan (05:26):
Fool for life, right?
Fool for life, But a lot oftimes, man, we support
strangers, man, that we neverwould meet.
And granted we grow with theseartists and stuff, but when you
see somebody actually doing itfrom where you at and you see
them starting up, it's notabout, yo, I'm trying to jump in
the band rap just to get famousor hot.
It's really just about, yo, thisis my man, that's it.
This is my boy, this is myhomegirl.
Like, and I just wanna see themwin.

(05:47):
That's it.
I wanna see

Raymundo (05:48):
life.
So yeah.
That's dope man.
We need a lot of people likethat, man.
Cause I don't know, man, I don'tknow about, I know you feel the
same way, but yo, I love to seepeople win.
and even if I don't agree withthey, yo, I just had a Trump
supporter and the way hearticulated himself, I changed
my views about judging people.
Yo, people go, people can't likeeverything you like.
And if they like it, it's morereason, you know.

(06:10):
that was, I can't wait to gettune into that episodes.
Son was like smart.
Like he wasn't like a Trump fanthat didn't know why, like, why
he was, he knew.
You know what I mean?
So, you know, and

ryan (06:20):
man, I, I was in the military with him, you know, I,
I, I live with him for fouryears, so trust me, bro, like
I'm, I wanna tune to the episodeas well because, you know, it's,
it's, the facade is what we,what media put out.
They put out this thing like, ohwell this person this way, this
person, this way, and if yousupport this person, you must be
this way.
So, exactly.

Raymundo (06:40):
Yeah.
Right.
So I was like, damn, I unfollowpeople and all that.
Sometimes I used to be like,nah.
So she, they following them, butI unfollow him cuz he, he was
funny about it.
which is another reason like Ican never, a lot of people hate
Trump.
I don't hate Trump.
Cuz he was, I don't believe thepresidents really do anything
anyway, but he was hilarious.
He.

ryan (07:00):
On everything I love, like it was him and Elvis Presley
Trump.
Like my uncle loved him too,man.
And like even when he gotoffice, like he was just like,
the Trump was just like thiscomedian who was just the
president now.
And so I never, not, didn'tTrump, but you know, was like,
bro.

Raymundo (07:20):
Yeah.
I mean, people already know howwe met.
Uh, we met in, um, in abc, miss,uh, Ms.
Golden, Ms.
Golden Advisory, and then wewent Miller, and then we got
strong at Fool Lan.
Shout out to Lan that real.
Um, but besides the, the girlsthat we were competing for, we,
we came we bonded over abasketball being Nick fans.

(07:45):
And yo, even though we lost themajority of the games, there's
nobody I would've lost thosegames with.
They're my brothers.
Like

ryan (07:54):
word.
Yo.
You know what's so funny aboutebc?
So I chose EBC because it'sweird cause they said they had a
basketball team.

Raymundo (08:02):
Like remember the, the high school books

ryan (08:05):
did?
Yeah.
And they said they had abasketball team, but the, but I
knew something was wrong whenthey put the Chili step team
first in the extracurricular, Iknew something was wrong.
Cause they had soccer andbasketball kind came like last.
So I was like, ah, man.

Raymundo (08:19):
But you, you, you remember though, it was an after
school basketball.
Like it was just after school.
Everybody could play Ball Thatwas it.
It wasn't no

ryan (08:29):
story behind that.
What?
So I went to Ca Hill.
I went to Ca Hill one day andI'm like, yo, Cahill man.
They, you know, like I'm seeingSebastian Tel, like I'm seeing
Lamont, I'm seeing all theseathletes in, in Lincoln and, and
what's going on with our team?
How come we don't have a team?
And he was like, well if we doremember.
And Za was there, right?
Zach Za

Raymundo (08:49):
Za.
Shout out to Zach Za za So oneof the reasons I wanted to, get
you on the show, you've beenbehind the scenes, you know what
I'm saying?
I saw you.
I only saw one time, so Iassumed that there's a part of
you that is acting, but I sawyou do a scene and I remember,
you know how we all, bro, I waslike, I was so hype, bro.

(09:10):
So, yeah.
But, but let the people knowwhat you, what are you, what do
you currently do now?

ryan (09:15):
So currently, I'm a program facilitator.
actually at, I'm wearing one ofthe shirts, it's called Brag,
brag, it's called Bronx RiseAgainst Gun Violence.
and then also the other programis called Y mf.
It's all both of theseprogrammers on the Bronx.
Um, I basically, I mentor andgive gyms back to the youth,
fathers and boys of color.
just men, people in general.
But the brag is for gun violenceand sexual awareness.

(09:38):
So I go every Wednesday and, andI volunteer my time and giving
these kids what they need.
And then the Y mf the youngsterto Miss's father program.
It's just something that mendon't have the space to talk to,
express their feelings.
So I provided space, and notjust a space, but that's
currently what I do.

Raymundo (09:56):
Just which is important, man.
Like given, you know, men, wealways feel like you can't.
Show emotions.
Mm-hmm.
and we all got things that'shard to deal with, like I
already mentioned earlier, but,you know, the Green Ranger
killed himself, which is like,and everybody loved him, man,
but you know, what you see onthe surface doesn't, always
reflect was in the interior.
So absolutely we gotta be ableto talk about it.

(10:17):
Cuz another episode that I didearlier was controlling your
emotions.
And one thing about controllingyour emotions, when you suppress
and repress, all you do is buildup.
And when you do find, let itout, you lash out in ways that
sometimes there's no coming backfrom.
So you provide that to be partof that movement.
Man, that's awesome, bro.
For real.
Yeah.
Yeah.

ryan (10:35):
It's imperative, bro.
I mean, we've seen RobinWilliams, you know, take his
life.
We've seen Anthony, Bordain takehis life.
I mean, me being, suicide rateis so high, especially in the
military.
people deal with stress on theday to day, so, part of that is
what I give to the youth as wellis just dealing with the day to
day stuff.
Cause I've been there before,but I've also been overseas.

(10:56):
I've been, you know,entertainment.
So I've seen it from alldifferent sides.

Raymundo (11:00):
Man, that's dope.
So like you, you've been part oflike different realities, you
know what I mean?
You know, being away fromfamily, being around people that
everyone, everybody wants to bearound.
and me knowing you, you alwaysbeen the real humble, down to
earth supportive ass dude.
So, you know, I'm not surprisedyou doing the thing and the
youth man, you know what I'msaying?
The children are the future.

(11:21):
I would, I'm just trying to getmyself together and stop
bullshiting.
Cause I wouldn't, I wanna bepart of something where like,
it's not always about money, youknow what I'm saying?
Sometimes it's about giving youtime.
Which is the most time is almostprecious.
Besides life, the breath time isalmost precious thing.
Like, so be, to be able tospare.
You know, give some time tothose that that need it, you

(11:41):
know?
Cause there's not always afather in the household too.
So that's, it's another reason Iwanted to, uh, be part of that.
And it's a myth, Ain't no,there's black fathers that are
great and they're thereabsolutely no music and
everything likes to portray, youknow, something different.
But I know a lot of blackfathers that are, are amazing
fathers and their present is,fuck, I don't know.

(12:03):
I don't even wanna say associatemyself with someone who's not
like this.
Yeah,

ryan (12:07):
yeah.
No, absolutely.
And me because of, I, because ofmy dad was in my life and being
a positive influence in my life,not just in my life, but other
people wanted my dad to be theirdad.
So I reli in that, I love thefact that my friends would be
like, yo, like, you know,gangsters or even, you know,
going to the library and seeingwhoever.
The bus driver, the person Iwork at the store, it was

(12:27):
watching my father light up aroom and for him to change a, a
perception about who a blackfather's supposed to be like
when he didn't have to go toschool because of Parentes
conference.
He went there because hischildren was up there, or, you
know, one of the kids from theneighborhood.
You know?
So you, yeah, I, I love the factthat he was there and I'm here
today because of that reason.
I'm volunteering my time becauseof that reason.

(12:49):
If it wasn't family, I wouldn'tbe here.
But one of the most gratifyingthings you can do is give your
time away to somebody Being ofservice supports as being used.
You want to be of service.
I learned that from mygrandmothers is like, you know,
she would feed a hungry dog, youknow, so me is the most
fulfilling thing you can do isto give your time, you know,
what are you gonna do with thetime?
It's, it's, it's, it's so manythings that's selfish.

(13:10):
This is a selfish environmentthat we live in, so there's
really no gratification in self.
To, to praise yourself.
Right.
It's, it's, it is core pride,right?
It's ego.
It's ego.
You don't get nowhere.
And when you volunteer time, andbro, we went to high school
where it was about public,public

Raymundo (13:26):
service.
I loved when we used to feed thehomeless.
We used to go to the sheshelters and all that.
Oh, that was great.
That that birthed it.
I knew that was possible

ryan (13:34):
and, and we had a lot of fun doing it.
Like yeah.
It was a way of getting outtaschool.
We were still young, but wereally cared about what we were
doing at the end of the day.
Like, we loved that.
The pantry walking over thebridge.
Remember we did that, bro?

Raymundo (13:47):
Oh yeah.
Yo, we did, as I forgot aboutthat, bro.
We did Asst

Malcom (13:52):
Yea he doesnt remeber, fronting

ryan (13:54):
dna and, and if the younger you teach kids, that is
the older you grow with and theywon't be so reluctant to be
like, oh, I don't wanna helpthis person, because it's like,
no, we all need help.
You know?
We all need somebody.
You know, us, we, we gonna betaking our life.

Raymundo (14:08):
That's exactly, and it, and it is though, when
somebody that comes from whereyou come from, Or people that,
you know, people likefamiliarity, so you look like
them.
you come from the same type ofenvironment, but you found a way
to bring positivity in that.
Mm-hmm.
That's what we gotta show kidsmore, because if the parents are
working to provide, they're notalways gonna be around to

(14:29):
educate mm-hmm.
So what are they left to do?
But listen to music, watchmovies, video games and all that
shit.
Got things in there that withtime you don't even realize that
it's, you've become who you'vebecome cuz of the things that
you've watched and listen.
So I'm at that age where I'mrealizing like, yo, uh, a lot of

(14:50):
my, so when I just listened torap, I was a rapper.
I didn't speak well.
I like everything was a slang.
Ever since I've been reading anddoing a podcast, I'll be saying
words like figuratively speakingand shit that I'll be like, yo,
I'm talking different one.
It's different

ryan (15:04):
language for real.

Raymundo (15:06):
you know, there was a once upon a time when,
especially when I was rapping,that I felt like I didn't, I
didn't talk hood enough.
Like I, that was a thing I feltlike, like if I go to the hood,
right, it is a psyche, right?
If I would go to the hood andsomebody was way more hood than
me, I would almost try to matchthey hood.
just one day it dawned upon melike, yo, I'm not trying to stay
in the hood.

(15:27):
I'm trying to get out the hood.
Yeah.
My dad, with the way you speak,in the way you think, cause you
can leave the hood, you can takequa out the hood, but you can't
take the.

ryan (15:39):
Like, nah, like, yo, one thing about, and I listen all
about my dad, man, heestablished so many great things
in me early, which is like thetools that I need, it's not for
right now is when you need'em.
You don't use tools when youdon't need em.
And one of the things he used toalways say to me was, you was
born in the hood.
You're not from the hood.
You're not from the hood.
he used to tell me stories aboutthe Chinese restaurants, like

(15:59):
how when they first moved here,they couldn't cook for us
because they didn't know how toserve us.
So eventually they startedserving the chicken wings and
the french fries and the porkspirits and the beef from
Bradley, you know, it was all ofthat.
So my father watched the hoodbecome the hood, so it became
poor people.
Dis and poor people or poorpeople stealing from poor
people.
And that's the hood.
But we know better than eachother, right?

(16:21):
So we, we adapt in thismentality of being more poor
than the next.
It was like, oh, you making funof each other.
But really at the end of theday, this little kid in see of
father or their mother is doingso and so, right.
It's like really what it boilsdown to is the essence of their
parents not showing the kidslove.
So they're not gangsters,they're not killers, they're
scared.
That's why Mike Tyson is alwayslike, yo, I'm just a scared kid

(16:43):
from Brownsville.
Cause he was really people thatknow Mike, like one of my
barbers, like knew Mike Brigg.
Yo Mike.
We used to call him Dirty Mike.
And I'm like, what?
Yeah, that was dirty Mike.
He was a scared little boy.
Poor.
And I'm like, wow.
So you look at Mike now, youlike he's just intimidated and
fear factor looking guy.
Right?
But really bro, he's justscared.
And that's a lot of our problemstoday, bro.

(17:03):
Our parents just didn't have theenvironment.
The circumstances that we havenow.
You know, some parents havetheir children when they were
young, some parents, theircultures, their environment,
their relation, their religiondon't allow them to have
abortions.
So it's like they were forcedinto things early and they
didn't have, either you werelove or you were, or you were
tolerated.

(17:24):
And if you're not loving achild, then anything else is, is
a disruption to theirupbringing.
And so now it's distress andwanting to be hood.
And you know, looking at TVprogramming, us going to the
streets as dudes, you know,girls looking at, you know, a
successful woman taking offtheir clothes.
And it's like, well, that's whatI'm supposed to be doing.
I'm looking at my mom.
So she's not really successful.
She gonna work every day.

(17:44):
Two and three jobs.
I, I'm at my grandma's house,she watching me, my dad not
here.
And all of this bro is just us.
The bad upbringing bro.
The TVs,

Raymundo (17:53):
the music, you know, program.
It's called programming for areason, man.
And Right.
It's dope.
You say that, like getting tothem early, right?
Cause what the majority of thetime adults that have issues.
STEM from childhood.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
And we didn't have all thetechnology and all the
information that we have at ourfingertips now.
Or we did, but ain't nobody wasgonna look at them.

(18:14):
Thick ass encyclopedias, Iwasn't going do that when they
went to the disc.
Cause this shit, I was like,right, we got something.
But, now, but yeah man.
So like now I feel like now thatwe are aware, right?
Like a lot of kids, you know, itis sad but, you know, but you
know, molesting being molestedis like a common thing.
Yo, shout out to Kendrick Lamarwhen that album came out for

(18:37):
him.
I don't know if that was histruth, but if it is or if it
isn't the way he, I don't knowif you heard his last album,
like he put his, his life, likehe put his emotions like He's in
my top 10 for sure, man.
Like yeah, absolutely I did.
But we need more rappers likehim cause.
Bro, he expressed somethingthat, how many, you know, how
many rappers, singers wentthrough stuff?

(18:58):
Emotional trauma when they wereyounger.
That's why they so tough, that'swhy they so gangster, that's why
they so insecure.
And son is just like, yo, I wentthrough this and look at me.
I'm still a successful star andI go through shit, but I'm still
good.
So, cause I mean,

ryan (19:11):
bro, a lot of that came from, it's, it's weird how
sometimes, like my life, how ittranspire, one of my, he's like
a mentor to me, right?
Like, come like an uncle.
His aunt is, um, what's hername?
Something Sylvia.
Um, she was in charge basicallyof, you know, producing like
hiphop, which is rapper'sdelight.
she's the ones get credit forlike destroying hiphop.

(19:33):
But what happens is with hiphopartists, right?
There's a character that happensand.
They may look poor, look cool,right?
They may look like beingdepressed.
Cool.
So a lot of the, it's cool.
And it wasn't cool to be like,yo, I'm poor, or, Hey, like,
everybody knew that.
So it was just like, how I'mgonna be the coolest and how I'm

(19:54):
gonna have this rep.
Everything's about having a rep.
If you didn't have rep, then youwas nobody.
So now coming out kind likeTupac and it's like, yo, I'm
gonna be real about what allthese rappers wasn't real about,
even though they had to dealwith the same thing.
So it's like, yeah, Jay Z, and,and Biggie made it cool to, you
know, pop champagne and being,you know, hundred thousand cars
and being jacuzzi and stuff.

(20:14):
But really, bro, look whatBiggie and JayZ was talking
about, even in their songs, youknow, uh, she must love me, you
know, uh, ready to die, youknow?
Uh, it, it's a bunch of like,daddy doesn't love me, cops love
me, you know what I'm saying?
Bro, you know, we, we, Jay-zFinn, so, you know, we start
rapping and they, they expresshow they fuck about their
parents, right?

(20:35):
So now Kendrick is like, Nah,bro.
Yeah.
My aunt is gay.

Raymundo (20:39):
That was dope.
That was, that was a dope, thatwas a dope way for, to support
his aunt.
Man.
I would've like, if it was his,like his aunt should give him
mad money for Christmas or, orsomething that he, you know what
I mean?
Like, he already got everything.
I thought that was dope, man.
Yeah.
It's like real class, realclass.
Yeah.
it could be your sister, itcould be your aunt, it could be,
it could be anybody that youlove, you know, and they were

(21:02):
strong enough to let it be knownwho they were.
Right.
And that support man goes a longway.
And you don't want somebody toget in that place of not wanting
to be here because they notaccepted.
Cuz you know, there's somethingthat you don't like about
yourself that that personaccepts about you.
So.
Right.
You know

ryan (21:21):
what it's, I'm gonna say this last thing.
It's killing us not beingourself.
Mm-hmm.
it's, it is literally killingour, like, we're killing
ourselves, not being ourselves.
And nos barky, he has this line,um, it's in his song.
I forgot the name of the song,but he says, you see everybody
is somebody, but nobody wants tobe themselves.

(21:43):
So if I ever wanted tounderstand me, I gotta talk to
someone else.
Like, it's like this thing,like, like it is, we not, we, we
are so programmed that like,when we are cool, it's like
being like the farms, right?
It's like, oh man, I'm about tobe cool.
You know?
I got this, I got

Raymundo (21:56):
that.
The collar pop in.
Yeah.
You know,

ryan (22:00):
nigga, you know, it starts Jay-Z.
Cool.
You know, Biggie's cool.
Everybody's cool, bro.
Like, nobody wants to bethemselves.
Like, everybody's like, bigdaddy can't influence Jay-Z.
Right?
Big Daddy can't influenceBiggie.
Like somebody influenced BigDaddy can in so forth, bro.
And.
Everything that we learn in lifeis from somebody

Raymundo (22:20):
exa, you know, it's great.
I was just explaining that to mystepdaughter, right?
Cause I was like, yo, and, and Iused that example.
I said, Jay-Z had Rakim and BigDaddy Kane.
Mm-hmm.
fabulous.
Had Jay-Z, biggie, and probablyhe got the fuck with Rakim.
Right.
then you got J Cole, you know,Jay-Z, you know, everybody got
there.
And when I used to rap, I usedto, I used to base Jay-Z I felt

(22:41):
like was too up there for me toeven try to like, so I would
base it on Fab and Cassy.
I would always try to kind ofmimic that, that flashy,
punchline, smooth dude shit.
Like, but I don't know, man.
I got bars.
It was just, its this, yeah.
Call from the we,

ryan (23:02):
the music industry.
Like music videos, like whenproducer.

Raymundo (23:11):
And they, they go, come on heads, come

ryan (23:12):
on, come on.
Heads.
You know, you know how you do apoint and you know, you gotta
make the Powow Powow, right.

Raymundo (23:22):
Icing my,

ryan (23:23):
icing my, like all that, bro.
Rock

Raymundo (23:29):
Yeah.
So that's hilarious.
Yo, actually, before we get intoyour, your time in the
entertainment business, let'stalk about your military life.
Okay.
Which branch and why did youchoose to be all that you can
be?
All right.

ryan (23:47):
so I, I, I chose the Navy.
And I chose the Navy becauseit's as simple as this.
And one of the kids in my, in myprogram in the north site, he
said, I don't want to die infront of my moms.
And for me, it was as simple as,understanding like how poor, and
you know, how poverty lookslike.
And I said to myself, I wouldrather get shot knowing that

(24:08):
somebody beside me knowing wouldknow what they doing and we're
prepared for this than to beshot or somebody that's hungry.
He's not a, he's not a killer,but when push comes to shove,
it's either me or him and it'sgonna be me.
So for me it was just about, Idon't wanna die in the street
with nothing.
Like, with just nothing.
You know?
I don't wanna be that guy.
Like I don't wanna die fornothing.
I don't wanna die because he'shungry, which I understand.

Malcom (24:28):
that was fucking deep bro I'm from it.
I understand hunger, but Ididn't wanna die just with like,
no type of like, oh yeah, Ryan'scoming home from school, or he
was coming home from doing thisand yeah, he got shot today.
Cuz you know, we see it all thetime.
Our friends, either our friendswere doing it or it was
happening to our friends or ourmothers or whoever.
So for me it was simple as, bro,I got a chance to see the world.

(24:49):
I don't know if I'll ever beable to see the world again.
They painted for, for free andup getting water.
So, Whatever happens, happens.
And that's how I looked at it,bro.
And it was nothing about tryingto be the best person, just I
didn't wanna die for, for

Raymundo (25:01):
nothing.
No, that's mad commend.
So yo, you and Jonathan,Jonathan, I think he gave you,
uh, he gave you a shout on,shout out that my brother
Jonathan Yes, sir.

ryan (25:15):
The Jula

Raymundo (25:16):
Ula you got right.
Soon we gonna be able to likethe Ula you not gonna be able to
say you heard, you gonna belike, you gotta say Lou heard
you do Word.
Oh.
damn that, that shit threw meoff topic.
We was Oh no.

(25:36):
Your reasoning whoa, deep.
Mm-hmm.
like deep it in this submarine.
People.
My I

ryan (25:46):
die.
Nobody can stay me

Raymundo (25:49):
Then I hear that fucking yo, I ain't gonna front.
If there was a military that Iwanted to join, I was like, yo,
if I don't join the Navy Seals,I don't want nothing to do with
that shit.
That ass, if I'm not gonna bethat elite.
Cause I saw a movie explainingthem and I say, Joe, but you
know what took me out?
What?
Talk about swimming in theocean.
Yeah.
You see a shark, you gotta punchit in the face.

(26:10):
I was like, yo, my biggest fearis sharks and spiders.
You wilding.
You know what, it's though,

ryan (26:15):
I, I almost became, I could have became a seal too.
I just didn't want it.
I didn't like in bootcamp, likeyou trained with the seal and
what it is they look forleadership.
It's not just about the physicalquality, it's about the mental.
So they was like, yo, like whydon't you become a seal?
And I'm like, you don't.
Nah, I don't want be no.
Because it's just a lot of timefrom being away from family and
I'm, you know, family oriented.
I'm not gonna killer.

(26:36):
Like

Raymundo (26:36):
yeah, you don't wanna be that elite.
Like you wanna be elite, butthat's like, yo, how am I hang
out with you and relate to youwhen you can swing from a
chopper rope with no, with noharness, nigga, I can't fuck, I
can't even hang out with you.
We're not

ryan (26:52):
thing across the mother.

Raymundo (26:54):
Nah.
You can swim with you done swwith sharks, bro.
Like, yo, you not scared ofnothing, bro.
I.
But that is dope though.
You got to travel the world.
What was, where were like, gimmelike the, your top places that
was like,

ryan (27:06):
I, I'll do it this way.
So I did three deployments infour years and they're like,
they're not like the ArmyMarines, they, we were in the
water.
So my first deployment was sixmonths to Europe.
It was the equivalent of likehaving a college student go on
a, you know, join a rock band,go on a world concert in Europe.
That's how it was.
It was just like a fun time.
It was not, I'm not gonna saytoo many things, but it was like

(27:28):
the best time of my life,especially in the military,
because they don't do stuff likethat no more.
They don't party like that.
They don't

Raymundo (27:34):
like, it was

ryan (27:35):
change.
Changed my life in, in a goodway.
but that wasn't the Navy though.
My next appointment was to southand Central America.
That was for four months.
And that was around the time mydad had just passed away.
So I was dealing with like, alot of internal conflict stuff.
And then because of that reason,like they sent me down to South
Central America for four monthsto do humanitarian work.
So I was in Panama and Haitiand, and Venice, El Salvador,

(28:00):
Columbia, Nicaragua.

Raymundo (28:01):
Yo.
Did you, um, did you almost, notcome back to base when you were
in Columbia?
Did you think about not comingback?

ryan (28:08):
Yo, first of all, stay away from Columbia because
they're ma, it's magic overthere.
It's madness and magic, bro.
Somebody came to the club with ababy sl, you know, little,
little Columbia guys with themustache and stuff he came for
is bro, but baby, it was weird.
Like, and then he had the, thegirls in the back and all the

(28:29):
girls are just there for onething.
They not even there to party.
They there to make money for thebosses.
It's, yeah, yeah.
Like yeah.
It's wild bro.
It's

Raymundo (28:39):
wild.
And conversation, definitely alltheir

ryan (28:44):
conversation.
There are some, there are some,some Back then they were known
as, you know, women or men thatwas just trying to, you know,
have the operation.
Now it's just, you know, Transwomen and trans men.
But back then they was justlike, I need a couple, uh,
balloons.
Put it in hair, get someballoons, put it back here, and

(29:06):
we about to make it happen.
And it was a scary time.
Panama, two scary

Raymundo (29:10):
times.
How is Panama though?
My sister went there, she said,she said it was cool.
I went to Panama

ryan (29:15):
City and I up remember Venom, remember?
He's like, you got a parasite upyour ass.
And he's like, oh, I had a paraon ass.
No, so dirty bro.
I couldn't shit for a week.
And when finally his it bricklike exaggeration, bro, like, I
felt like it was a big ass holeback then

Raymundo (29:36):
because it was, did they show you the parasite?

ryan (29:38):
So they had to kill it.
They gave me, made me take thispill and it made me, it made to
kill a parasite.
So what it did is solidifiedanything that was inside.
And so bro, when I, you know,like you gotta, like, you feel
you gotta go like, imagine thatall the time and you can't go
cause you can't pass it.
And when I finally, yo

Raymundo (29:56):
Panama and it's really go to, if you would've passed
it, then it would've fucked youup.
I'm it

ryan (30:03):
passed through.
Like I was able to pass it out,but it was so hard because of
like had to kill it.
The medicine that I took.
And also too, like, it's real,like the military real over
there is real criminals overthere.
So even us being in themilitary, their military have to
protect us because they waslike, yo, we just went to the
atm.
They like, yo, we gotta getoutta here.
We was like, you ain't got nomore money.
It's like, yo, I don't kid.

(30:23):
It's like, you either want dieor you wanna get your money.
Damn.
Like, yo, let's get outta here.
So we left, like there's Panama.
Panama is really one of them.
City, Panama City, one of'emcities where it's like, you
really gotta be from there or.
Don't go there with no jewelry.
You can't be like, even thislittle nothing, you can't show
that you rich.

Raymundo (30:40):
I knew Mad Panama City was wild when, when, um, uh,
Michael Scofield took a wholeseason to get out the

ryan (30:48):
brick.
Yo yo, it's real.
And I didn't, and I didn'trealize how those areas in South
Central America was like thatuntil I was over there.
Now I'm like, oh wow, oh, likeI'm watching snowfall and it's
like El Salvador Niagua.
I was there,

Raymundo (31:05):
bro.
I got,

ryan (31:05):
I got stranded in El Salvador or El Salvador.
I got stranded in El I gotscreen Salvador and we was
drinking Coronas and the littlevillages, bro, they had little
tens of stuff and they wascooking chicken, little pot
water from the river rightthere.
And the Hilo, if they didn'tcome back, if the Hilo didn't
come back before the sun wentdown, then we would've to stay
there overnight.
But luckily, like they was ableto feel up.

(31:25):
The Hilo came back in time,picked us up, and we was able to
go.
But bro, I, I don't know,

Raymundo (31:31):
Helo, is that, that shit in, uh, gta, the Hilo,

ryan (31:34):
the helicopter

Raymundo (31:36):
I know that's the nickname.
I'm like, you about to say thechopper.
The top job.
Go by job.
All right.
So as far as the military,right?
Yeah.
You got you.
What's dope is that a lot ofsuccessful people come back,
like the discipline doesn'tleave them.
So like, oh

ryan (31:53):
wait, wait, wait.
My bad.
Um, I forgot to answer yourquestion.
The last deployment was toAfrica likes the Horn of Africa.
So it was the whole backside.
That was seven months.
And if anybody watched CaptainPhillips, that was basically my
whole deployment, my whole sevenmonth deploy.
So I just, that, I just startedwatching that movie today.
I

Raymundo (32:11):
didn't finish it though, so.
Yeah.
So is automatic.
Yeah.

ryan (32:17):
But all the appointments were different from each other.
Um, but the last one was like,yeah, this is really like war.
Like I went through the sewerscanal.
Like I'm watching like Egypt onone side.
I think turkey's on the otherside and like to be a black
American.
And like going to othercountries, they'll ask me like,
I've been to Georgia, right?

(32:38):
Like, I think it's called oldRussia.
You know, it's places I've beento Haveve, been to Spain, I've
been to other, and they ask you,why you, what are you doing
here?
They point to their skin.
They don't like you.
Why?
What are you doing here?
It messed me up the first time Iheard it.
Damn.
I'm not, I'm like, oh, I'm inthe military.
I'm, I'm from New York orwhatever.
No, no, no.
Why you here?
Still not understanding.
I'm like, okay, I'm, I took aboat.

(32:59):
I'm in the Navy.
No, no, no, no, no.
Look at your skin.
They don't like you where you'refrom.
They don't like you.
You see how they treat you athome.
Why you, it made me think aboutMuhammad Ali now when he was
saying, yo, why am I fightingthese people?
Went, I got problems back athome.
So I'm in the military.
I'm literally, I'm kind oflooking at three different
conflicts, right?

(33:19):
The war that I'm in, right,which is like the Navy versus
whoever I'm going to go fight.
Then it's me, and then me beingon the ship, dealing with the
racism, right?
Me being from where I'm from andhow I carry myself.
And then it's the war withinmyself, right?
The internal conflict that Ihave.
So it's three different wordsthat every, most people fight,
especially as a black.
And so when they was asking methat, I didn't realize.

(33:41):
So the, the, my favorite placesbased off of that because of
understanding like geographical,like where I was, would be
Greece.
I don't know why.
Their food is great, the peopleis great, the nightlife.
Santorini Suda Bay.

Raymundo (33:54):
Wait, wait.
Are the freaks in Greek?
are the freaks.
Really?
Are the Greeks really freaks?
Listen

ryan (34:00):
man, they, they really know

Raymundo (34:02):
how to party man.
And that's, that's a good way toanswer your question.
Yo.
What I'm gonna say is that theyknow how to party like a rock
star.

ryan (34:12):
They really not a party man.
they're good people though.
and they have new beaches.
Yeah.
That's, wow.
So they don't even, it is newbecause they want they body to
10 to be like one color.
So it's new.

Raymundo (34:24):
Every dude, you could be the only dude on the nude
beach.

ryan (34:28):
old people though.
So it's a lot of old people.
Yeah.
I

Raymundo (34:31):
figure man, they about, they about the gold, so
they like, yo, I'm just out onthe way out.
The was

ryan (34:42):
gonna like busing news,

Raymundo (34:43):
word.
Oh man.
Damn.
Yo.
But Africa had to be, did youfeel a sense of home?
I'm not even saying that.
Cause you black.
I'm literally saying that cuz Ifeel like, damn.
Like they gotta, that's where wehear life started, right?
There's different places wherethey say life started, but like,
that's the motherland.

(35:04):
You know?

ryan (35:05):
It's, it's about where it's, it's, it's so much about
like, like kinda like where youare accepted in Africa, supposed
to as like Right.
I'm in Africa, so I was supposedto feel like home.
Yeah.
Um, so like, I've been toIsrael, you

Raymundo (35:17):
know, and, and we are the real children of Israel.
You here don't get it fucked up.
Right.

ryan (35:24):
You see how religion plays a huge part.
Like you see the Muslims and theArab, like, it's like the Jewish
people versus the Arab, theArabs and the Muslims.
And it's like, like it's reallylike a holy wall over there.
You know what I'm

Raymundo (35:35):
saying?
I don't even know that.

ryan (35:37):
Yeah.
It's like, it's real over thereand, and it's like, like I seen
this more all God, I think hemight have been, he was Muslim
and the guy that was walkingwith his wife was Jewish.
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(36:20):
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And he said something, he said, I'm, and then he spit and
he spit so hard.
He, the guy felt that on hisjacket, but he, he thought
somebody kind like bumped him.

(36:40):
So he kind of like, right.
And he kept walking.
But yeah, bro, it's, it's areal,

Raymundo (36:44):
it's a real Holy war.
There's no respect If they doingit, like that's, once you spit,
the respect is completely gone.
Ain't no, I don't know, man.
I don't think there's no comingback after somebody spit at me.
So

ryan (36:55):
I almost got married to Israel too.
Girl was beautiful, man.
Word

Raymundo (36:59):
they him told God.
She was like, you,

ryan (37:02):
Ryan, she likes you.
I was like, how?
I was like, cause in America,you know, you call girl
beautiful, she fuck out my face,fuck, I accept my you.
They be like, God, leave.
So this girl, she said, um, shejust kept helping me.
And she was like, in Israel, shesaid, the woman, like when they
help a guy, it means that likethere's interest and that she's
trying to get you attention.
So she kept asking me, you needhelp with anything else?

(37:24):
And she wouldn't make eyecontact, man.
Man, she had like the mostbeautiful color, olive, green
eyes I've ever seen in my life.
And she was just beautiful.
Like, she had this olive colorskin.
Like, I

Raymundo (37:36):
don't know, did she have, was she religious?
Did she have the.
I don't know.
She was this

ryan (37:40):
beautiful man.

Raymundo (37:40):
Like she was so, cause you show her hair, I don't know
how that they

ryan (37:44):
was showing her hair was

Raymundo (37:44):
shown.
Yeah.
Cause I don't know if you everseen one of those women that can
show their hair and you, you seetheir face and you like, oh my
God, I'm going over there.
I don't care.
They going, I might not comeback, but I'm going over there.
Oh, yo, man, I, I, I can't helpyou bro.
Like, when I get married,shortie gotta be like, yo,

(38:06):
that's just my man.
He just be, that's how he talk.
You be front Oh man.
You hanging on front man.
This damn hearing about yourexperience in the military is
great, but, okay, so like, whatdid you, what was, when you left
the military, what was the mostimportant thing you got from it?
That

ryan (38:26):
there's a lot of stereotypes that I was able to
see past and whether you'reblack, white from Africa, from
Spain, you know, whether youspeak Spanish, whether you speak
French.
Like I've seen the human sideand I've seen things like
there's certain things that Icould speak on because of what I
experienced and it made thathold truth for every religion
and every culture and everyperson.

(38:47):
But like how you said about theTrump person, the Trump
supporter, yeah.
I had a guy tell me that hewould, that he, something about
Obama, that he would dosomething to disrespect him and
we had a whole conversationabout it and I told him about
how I felt about Bush and I justsaid, you, bro, at the end of
the day, that's still my commandin chief.
I said, so Bush was to come inhere regards to how I feel about
his politics as a man.

(39:09):
I gotta respect him cause hedidn't anything to.
Right.
So I was just like, I don't hateyou because you, you know, cause
of politics and how you wasraised or whatever, but you
disrespecting this man becauseof policies, you know,

Raymundo (39:21):
so that you don't agree with.
That's when you need to comeback down to earth a little bit.
Like you don't need to hateanybody that you don't know.
Right?
Right.
Because you love people that youdon't know.
Right.
So I hate, but you don't gotta,you don't gotta hate them.
Right.
You don't love people that youdon't know more than people that
you do know But, uh, theircelebrities, you know, I, I

(39:43):
don't know them to tell themhappy birthday.
Don't get me wrong, I'll sayrest in peace if they were a
part of my life as far as likemy growing up, but they ain't
saying happy birthday to me.
You know when I start sayinghappy celebrities when they
start saying, yo, happy birthdayRay.
Yo, you killing the podcastLike, yo.
did you ever question it?
Right, right.

ryan (40:03):
But now to your point, bro, I'm, I'm able to, I'm able
to see people, I can see peoplelike behind the shades, not
visually naked, but I can seepast the insecurity.
I can see past the heart beinghard and being, whatever it is,
whatever character that theymade up for themselves, whatever
facade, you know, I don't carehow big it is, I can see past it

(40:24):
because I'm able to, it's likeeight or nine different
characteristics that peoplecould kind of like, that's the
spectrum, right?
It's like, that's it.
And like there's maybe like twoor three different versions of
somebody, but there's nothingnew underneath the sun.
And I already seen it before.
I've slept with, you know, inthe same boat with 200 or 320,
320 people every day for sixmonths.

(40:45):
Every day I slept with, myhomeboy from Alabama, he's a
white boy, the other dude fromCalifornia, weird black dude
from California.
This guy like.
And then you get to what it is.
You get to see the nuances.
You get to see like pasteverything.
Like, and I got to see humanbeing for the first time, bro.
So now like when I'm talking topeople, it's like, I'm not
saying I know them, but I cansee past everything.

(41:06):
I'm like, yeah, either this orthis and this and that, and I
can pick up it immediately.
Like I don't need my eyes to seeno more.
I can hear with my

Raymundo (41:13):
eyes.
You sounded like KRS right now.
When your eyes, when you don'tuse your eyes to see,

ryan (41:24):
can literally, I can see with my ears.
it's weird, bro.
Like I've, been in places, likeI've been in places on the sea,
bro.
Like the sea is different.
It's different from land, itdoesn't move the same.
It's a different wholelifestyle.
So my eyes is adjusteddifferently.
Like I could see things, I couldsee like molecules of water,
like my eyes get adjustedcertain to a certain way in a
dark.
it's just.
Yeah, bro, it's like a new lifeon water.

(41:46):
Like it's totally different fromthem.

Raymundo (41:49):
They said life started in the water.

ryan (41:50):
What?
So I think the earth is like 80%water and we as human beings
spend all our time on land.
So it's like, I have a wholedifferent perspective, bro.
Like I, I seen the sun rise inthe west is set in the east,

Raymundo (42:02):
you know, the earth flat?
No,

ryan (42:05):
it's not flat.

Raymundo (42:06):
Nope.
Okay, okay.
well, I, I'm one of those, like,I don't, I don't believe that
something I can physicallyconfirm and if it doesn't affect
my money, I don't get into it.
But I like to be open to thepossibility of that, whether
it's round, whatever it is, it,it don't matter.
I ain't gonna be an astronaut,but I just, you know, I like to
keep an open mind.
Yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.

(42:28):
It's like, it's, it's too manythings that I'm like, yo, unless
it's some space shit that I'mgonna, if I, if I'm not joining
this, uh, SpaceX force, I'm notfucking worrying about that

ryan (42:38):
shit.
I'll put like this bro.
And, and people don't understandit this way.
And they used to call me Dolphinboy in the Navy cuz I had like a
lot of like differentperspective.
I used like a lot of nature andstuff, but the, the water
mirrors the sky and vice versa.
So like, if you see a birdflying, it's the same equivalent
as you see in the fish fly.
Right?
If you like, even at nighttime,like if this guy gets dark, the

(42:59):
water gets dark and vice versa.
It's a mirror image.
So we're living in, we'reexperiencing something a real in
between two mirrors.

Raymundo (43:07):
That's crazy.
I never, I never heard it fromthat perspective.

ryan (43:10):
Yeah.
Like, look, I just broke thingsdown like.

Raymundo (43:14):
Nah, bro, you, you enlightened like a motherfucker,
bro.
Like some shit.
You, the, your ex the, with yourexplanation for the military and
then your recipes to your popsman, the way he passed down that
knowledge and you keeping his,you know, you keeping him alive
you know, doing something thathe would be proud of, you know
what I mean?
I, I'm, I ain't get to meet yourpops, but I know he would be

(43:38):
proud as fuck, bro.
Mm-hmm.
If I started doing what you wasdoing, I would be proud of
Little Ray.
I would be proud of you littleRay, so on you Yeah.

ryan (43:46):
Appreciate that bro.
He actually did meet, you didmeet him, bro.
You just, it was like so longago, you know what I'm saying?
Like, it was so, so long ago,

Raymundo (43:55):
ago, bro.
Was it at a bus stop?
Yeah.
I don't remember his face, but Iremember cuz if you know Ryan,
you know, he loved his dad.
Like that was his idol fromJump.
He's not saying that cuz he'solder and he realized he was
like that.
And I could relate, cuz I'vealways, my dad always been my
hero.
Mm-hmm Um, so we always relatedwith that.
Now, you know, we lost a parentand, you know, being in the

(44:15):
world after you lose someonethat bought you into this world
is a whole differentreadjustment period.
So, you know, bro, it's alwaysgood to relate or connect with
people that, cause not everybodyknow how that feels.
Like.
You don't want everybody, youdon't want nobody to know how it
feels like, but, you know, mightas well, you know, help each
other heal.
Yo

ryan (44:31):
but my pops passed away meant, this is when I realized
that it wasn't so much about howI felt about my dad, but it is,
I was a part of a, I was a partof an environment where I signed
a contract and no matter whathappened, I have to keep going.
So even though, Everybody knowsmy relationship with my dad and
how it was At the same time Irealized like, people don't
really give a fuck about what'sgoing on at the end of the day.

(44:52):
Like there's still work to do.
Like the son's gonna come up thenext morning and thank God my
dad prepared me for death.
He used to always say, Ryan, I'mnot your father.
I'm, I'm an earthly babysitter.
God only chose me as a vessel.
So y'all can come through andhopefully I can give you enough
lessons so y'all can make thisworld a better place.
So my goal was to always makesure that I didn't disappoint my

(45:12):
dad.

Raymundo (45:13):
Yeah.
That was a visionary.
That was, wow.

ryan (45:16):
So he would always say, you know, even when his passing,
he'd be like, you know, I'mstill here physically, you know?
Cause you, you could leave yourkeys at home, you could leave.
So at home you could feel it,you know, you left.
So at home you walk to a place'stension, you could feel it.
So it was just like, right, wellI'm in the military, you know,
it's like, yeah, I lost my dad.
But its like, well, peoplereally don't give a fuck anyway.
Right.
I don't care how good of a manhe was.
And then too, life goes on.

(45:36):
And it was a valuable lessonbecause it was like, yo, this
don't disappoint him.
And I went to like a, I gotdepressed and I, I got into
some, I fell into some troubleafter that of course.
But it was really, it builtcharacter and it, it allowed me
to say, you know what?
I'm not gonna use this excuse tosay, oh, my dad died, so now I'm
gonna act of fool Exactly.
Into me.
And if I, even if he didn'tlike, it's like I don't want

(45:58):
like disappoint his name and whohe is and whatever he built, you
know what I'm saying?
I guess it was a lot easier todestroy something when nobody
pulled into you.
But he pour so much into me,bro.
I didn't wanna disappoint him.
So I can't fall off

Raymundo (46:10):
this legacy.
You begun.
You had an amazing start, man.
Yo, let's give it up.
What was your dad's name?
Stephen.
Stephen.
Oh, Stephen State.
Yeah.
Stephen State.
Like rest in peace.
And you know, thank you fordropping that knowledge to Ryan
cuz he's, Dropping it to theworld.

(46:30):
So, you know what I mean?
That's a blessing.
This I ain't gonna, I'm have toprobably change the name of the
episode cuz it's, I feel likeit's more be humble.
Mm.
The tone I'm getting.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love this job.
I can't wait, I can't wait tillI don't feel separated from the
money, but when this shit canfeed me and I can do this all
day and I don't have to edit ohmy God.

(46:51):
There's shit that I'm gonnacrank out boy.
Like fucking Santa Claus beforeChristmas night.
Yeah, you no, but that though,I, yo you know what I noticed
too?
I just love differentperspectives other than mine.
Mm-hmm.
like, I feel like in this fieldyou gotta have that and I mean,
you should have it in thisworld.
You, that's, you know, you gottaempathize.

(47:11):
I try to empathize as much as Ican.
I've been a little, you know, asfar like, as far as my
relationship, I've been kind oflike, nah, I've been more like
selfish, like, nah.
But that just let me know that,you know what I'm saying?
I still haven't, I haven'thealed from, from even my mom's
passing.
Like I don't feel healed.
I think I just use distractions.
Mm-hmm.
and now it's been 12 years and Ijust been like pushing that

(47:34):
burden that, that not even theburden, but pushing that stress
on whoever wants to deal withit.
Right.
And now I got to the realizationwhere like, nah, you know, to
give people the best of me, Igotta give myself the best of
me.
Mm-hmm.
So then, you know, they can vibeoff that energy man.
Cuz energy's real.
Yo, my energy, I, I feel likeI'm an empath.

(47:55):
I, I never thought I was one ofthose empaths, but I'm literally
like, somebody comes in and yourenergy tells me a story.
Yep.
I, I think it's almost like metapping in, like once I get this
floor right out and I tap and Iopen my third eye, that's when
i's really gonna be crazy.
But, uh, literally, I will tellyou your whole story, and it's
either you gonna agree with meor say no, just to not say that

(48:16):
I was right.
Like that's how positive I feellike it's, it's a power man.

ryan (48:21):
Yeah, it is.
It's a great power, man.
And, and the better you knowyourself, man, you know, it is,
it scares people a lot of times.
And I, I didn't realize aboutmyself that I used to make
people feel uncomfortable, notbecause of me, but cause their
own, they're dealing with theirown thing.
Right.
And when you have their owninsecurities, you start
projecting that to other people.

Raymundo (48:43):
Exactly.
Yeah.
I, yeah, I've been on, I've donethat.
But one thing I like aboutmyself is awareness.
Once I see that, now that I'veseen that, like clearly I'm
like, you know what?
Let me work on all the stuffthat I'm not happy with.
Mm-hmm.
before, you know what I'msaying?
trying to spread that energy.
I wanna make sure I'm spreadingthe right type of energy.
Mm-hmm.
And it's most important for mykids though, like I can recall

(49:04):
seeing my mother alwaysdepressed in her room.
Right.
And then there was a time Ilooked up and I was depressed in
my room.
Mm.
So I don't wanna show them everthat you give up or, you know,
shout out to my mom's differentgeneration.
She, she did great.
who knew that, you know, it's,it is not, you know how they say
do as I say, not as I do, butkids interpret it.

(49:27):
I'm gonna do as you do and kindof as you say,

ryan (49:31):
because that's all, that's all it is, bro.
That's all kids really have.
That's all we really have iswalk people what they do.
And we live in a world wherepeople do a lot of what they say
and they really don't doanything at all.
Its a way of like being adistraction.
Right.
And a lot of our fears arerational anyway.
They're not real fear.
It's, it's imaginative fears.
It's like, oh, you know what, ifthis happens, oh, I'm gonna do

(49:53):
this.
And it causes anxiety in ourbody and stress and it builds up
and then it's passed on childrenand it's bad decision making and
it's emotional.
Um, the emotional intelligenceis so, it's so low that it's
like it creates this baddecision making.
And this is passed down fromgeneration to generation to
generation, to the point how yousaid it, bro, I never, my father

(50:14):
never wanted me to be him.
He always wanted me

Raymundo (50:16):
to be better than him.
Of course, man.
That's how it, yo, let me tellyou something.
Ry surpassing me into everythingis a dream, but without
pressure.
Like, I don't want him to thinkthat he has to do that.
But as my son, you know, comingfrom me, of course I want the,
like, I never understood a manever being jealous of his son.
I know that there, there is shitlike that out there, but bro,

(50:37):
like, nah, I want him to be.
I'm saying?
Everything he can be and morelike, it's different.
And you know, the day you, I'mtelling you brother, the day
your time comes to have a kid, Ialready, it is one of those
things people told me, yo,you're gonna be amazing, father.
I'm like, you don't fucking knowme.
But it's true, it's true.
I'm a great father, you know?
Of course I can always bebetter, but you gonna be
amazing, bro.
Like, for real, man in passingthat, That knowledge down gonna

(51:00):
be, it's gonna be amazing, man.
I'll be, I'll be at that babyshower, you heard?
Oh no, you'll be there.
Absolutely, bro.
For sure.
Oh man.
Yeah.
That's a, there's a blunt, wehave smoke there that we, uh, we
gotta get to at some point.
You

ryan (51:13):
heard

Raymundo (51:14):
S'S What?
What you say?
Oh, smoking a pancake.
I smoking a pancake.
So now that we spoke about themilitary, You know what I'm
saying?
You being around Uhhuh, Uhhuh,you being around,

ryan (51:31):
I'm say something military too before you go on.
Uh, I went there before I evenjoined, bro.
So, so many people was like,Ryan, don't go, Ryan don't go.
Remember I went on Bushes andoffice and the only thing I'll
say about that is whatever youdo in life, make sure you do
research about anything becausepeople will try to dissuade you
and they never even tried it.

(51:53):
They'll tell you not, they'lltry to, they'll tell you to not
do something.
They never attempted to do it,do

Raymundo (51:56):
it, tell you how to do it.
But they never did it.
Do they never did it

ryan (52:03):
or they fail because that's not what they were meant
to do.
I was born for certain things,just like you saying, but was
born to run.
Michael Phelps was born to swimlike Michael Jones.
I was born to do what I was todo and, and your, and what you
did and.
The fact that you didn't eventry to begin with is just, it
shows the lack of character thatpeople had and it showed that

(52:25):
the fear is like, like na,people fear what they don't
understand.
I have great understanding ofcomprehension, you know, so for
me it was like, oh, you going,you going in there?
You about to go to war, youabout to do this.
I mean, my own family members,you know, close relatives, you
know, it was just like, Ryan,don't do it.
And if I listen to them, like, Iwouldn't be where I'm at today.
So my advices for anybody isjust like, yo, just make sure

(52:46):
you do the research first beforeyou get into anything.
And if anybody want to questionyou, just make sure that they,
you know, they have theirknowledge as well.
Because anybody trying todissuade you from doing
something that you want to do inlife

Raymundo (52:56):
I mean too, they, I feel like their attentions might
be right by thinking they savingyou from going through a
disappointment in a way.
Like trying to add someperspective and positivity on
it.
Cause sometimes, cause.
What I would've told during thattime, I wasn't awake when you
went.
I was still sleeping.
Mm-hmm.
So I would've been like, nah,son.
You bugging that.

(53:17):
Oh my, my, the rest peaceChristian, one of my best
friends from, from first grade,he went to the Navy.
I started talk with him like,yo, you going to combat you
going?
But it was one of the bestdecisions he ever made.
He got married, he had two kids.
And you know, it's crazy becausewhen I got the phone call that
he died, I thought it was, Ithought he went to Iraq and
shit.
Got shit got crazy, right?

(53:38):
Nah, he, he went to chain, hechecked his car and I busted,
didn't see him and, and hit him,man.
So it's crazy.
Wow.
I appreciate your people, man.
Yeah, absolutely.
But as far as the, theentertainment part, right?
You uh, we spoke about how, youknow, you did that, you did some
acting and it's funny cuz I, Itext him about acting and he
goes, I ain't acting nigga.

(53:59):
I'm fucking me, duke.
I was like, what?
I was like, what?
Did I say something wrong, I waswhat?
Autos.

ryan (54:10):
Cause I, I read your text and I'm, I'm just like, I was
like, this ain't no act.
I was like, this, this ain't noall man, this is me.

Raymundo (54:19):
Was like, I day, I was like, I was speaking about the
profession of acting So what aresome projects that you've been a
part of?
I know one, but you know, I justwant you to say it

ryan (54:33):
well, everybody knows about snl, like just, so I did
season 43 of snl, um, work withFirst Team.
Basically, I work withcelebrities and making sure
that, you know, they get in intime and make sure they, you
know, their camp is good andmaking sure that production know
what's going on.
Um, I produce, um, commercialsfor Broadway shows like King
Kong into Proud, uh, the six,um, you said produced?

(54:58):
Yeah, yeah.
Yep.
Um, I did the grant opening.

Raymundo (55:04):
Um, the grant opening ain't got shit on me.
um,

ryan (55:11):
I did the grant opening the yards.
Um, I work with Cindy Lo.
Cindy Lo was one of my favoritepeople, but I worked with her a
bunch of times.
Like that's like one of my, Iwould say we're family cuz she
calls me family.
So I would say that, yo got outwith Cindy.
I worked Target the 20 yearanniversary that did couple,
couple years ago.
Um, it, bro, I can go on and onand on.

(55:33):
Like

Raymundo (55:33):
I've worked, oh, I didn't even know, I didn't know
the resume was like 10 pages,bro.
That's just suck.

ryan (55:38):
I actually did one of them shows, uh, what's the show?
It's Jordan Blank, but, uh, Idid the episode, the pilot show.
It's not Glee.
What's the other one?

Raymundo (55:48):
I was about to say The Golden Girls

ryan (55:49):
I'm drawing a blank right now, I did a bunch of shows.
Riverdale.

Raymundo (55:52):
Huh?
Riverdale.

ryan (55:54):
Not Riverdale.
Not Riverdale.
Yeah, I was a bunch of a part.
I worked with, uh, Dan Patrick.
I did a Star Wars commercial atNBC Studios in Connecticut.
I met Tony Dungy and RodneyHarrison.
Yeah.
I worked with,

Raymundo (56:07):
huh?
You a Star Wars fan?

ryan (56:10):
Yeah.
Well, no, not, no, no.
My uncle is.
I just, I just like the, the,the game that my cousin used to
play on Genesis.
Oh,

Raymundo (56:19):
They game was a, they trying to bring the characters
from everywhere now.
Yeah.
Nah, bro.
Wow.
I'm so glad you didn't tell methis over the phone.
Cause like the, the fucking,whoa, this guy got a resume.
This guy.
I know you've been doing yourthing since we left high school,
but god damn like, Yo, congrats.
My, yo, let's go to, with allthe challenges, fear and

(56:43):
everything.
bullshit shit.
You, you, you, you've probablycame across, bro.
You, you, you hear man, and yougot a story to tell.
but out of all those, my dreamis to be on Saturday Night Live.
Mm-hmm.
what, what, how was your timethere, man?
Like, who, who did you connectwith the most there?
You know, it doesn't have to bea celebrity, it could have been
a No,

ryan (57:04):
it's funny because it actually was lovely.
It was actually Chris r fromChicago.
my dude, every time, man, I comeup on set.
and the, the, the directors,some of them had a, a issue with
me.
A lot of, a lot of sets I was onthat they intimidated about it,
but they were, I was just as, Mypresence was just as big as the
celebrities, right?
So they would uncomfortabletalking to me.

(57:24):
So Chris Red or even Keenansometimes come out with up
working with Chance one daychances in the rooms, blown it
down.
He's like, yo bro can have this.
Man.
They had pizza at McDonald's.
It was, I'm just like, yo, what?
He's like, yeah, bro, you good.
You cool?
I don't work with Quest love andCommon Quest Love is like, yo
bro, like, yo man.
That's what's up.
Yo common, yo.
Do your thing, man.

(57:44):
Working with Pete Davidson.

Raymundo (57:46):
whoa.
Common

ryan (57:47):
sense.
Yeah.
Amy sch met her dog, Chloe, herdog Chloe loves me.
Like, bro, I'm not, is not evento go, bro.
It's just really, because I'verealized being in this industry,
it's about being a human and myexperiences and being in this
film thing has been about beingthe best human being possible.
Not being a fanboy, a fan girl,not fanning it out.

(58:07):
It's like respect.
Like I work with Janet and Ilove Janet.
She's, I think she's a coolperson.
Am I gonna sit there and be myGod, Janet, answer her five
questions at a time and no, weall here to work.
So for me it was just work.
And at the end of the day, I getmy paycheck and I come back home
to this apartment, you know, soit's like I didn't get too
caught up in like, oh, youworking with this person?
Or You gonna be Yankee tomorrow?

(58:29):
Or you do Adidas commercial, oryou're going, I worked with

Raymundo (58:32):
you was like, bitch, I'm humble.
Sit down

ryan (58:37):
I like that.
Dave Myers, that's the directorthat did Humble and you know, he
did a whole bunch of, I workedwith Jay-Z's music director one,
one time, mark Romanek.
I worked Neil Rogers, I workwith Neil Degrass Tyson, bro,
it's, its, it's been a, but whatI'm saying is I work with these
people, bro, and it's allbecause they like, yo, you are
cool.
Yo, what do you do?

(58:58):
And it's just been just on somereal humble stuff.
Like, yeah, I'm just here.
Like, I worked with Nicki Minajand, and Future one Time, and
Nicki's people were like, yo,who are you?
And was like, I'm just here tohelp you out with your bags.
And she had like a whole carfull of like clothes and stuff
like that, like her wardrobe andstuff.
So she's walking and then herwardrobe people and her makeup
people, they like, yo, like, soyou helping us?

(59:19):
I'm like, yeah, I'm here to helpy'all.
She was like, you just likethat?
And I'm like, yeah, I'm afterthis.
I might go get some chickenwings, you know, from Popeye's,
because that's what, that's whatshe on her.
And then gummy beds and stufflike that for this kid, you
know, for, so it's just like,all of this was just built off
of like, just being like themost complete human being to be
possible without, you

Raymundo (59:38):
know, you made a position outta your personality.
Right?
Like, that's crazy.
So, so I know you worked be likebehind the scene, but then like,
did a own position just evolveoutta all of this where you were
like, go to it?

ryan (59:50):
It started to be that way.
I started to get phone calls andbe like, Hey Ryan, you're
available for so and so.
Like, the reason how I startedworking with these Aus is really
is because, it was Heidi Cooland Tim Gun for Project Runway.
It was 33rd or 34th, somewhereover there.
It was crowded, of course it wasraining and then like, it was

(01:00:10):
real chaotic.
Everybody was stressing out.
And if you work in film ormusic, and it's like, deadlines
is very chaotic, especiallythere with supermodel.
Supermodel.
So I'm sitting there gettingthis shrimp, it's I'm eating and
stuff like that, and I'm justenjoying myself and I know where
I'm from.
So for me, this is not chaotic.
This is just, you know, budgetsthat people gotta meet certain
deadlines.
So that's not real stress forme, real stress is like waking

(01:00:31):
up in the morning, like mymother got coffee, you know,
stuff like that.
So I'm smiling at the end of theday and the producer's like,
what are you smiling at?
And I was just like, yo, is itmore work to do?
Like let's go.
And she was like, all this stuffgoing on and you still got a
smile your face.
And I was like, yeah.
So fast forward, I'm in Chicagonow, my, my sister's wedding.
I get a phone call.

(01:00:52):
I'm on my way back to New York,but I don't know who it is.
I'm like, yo, whoever it is, canI call you back?
You know, I gets back to NewYork and she's like, well, I'm
just letting you know, like, canyou get back as soon as
possible?
Because this person is like areally big superstar and we need
somebody to find out asap.
I was like, well, I'm Len in NewYork in like couple hours.
I'll call you back then.
She's all right.
Cool.
I call her back, I gave her acaller back, and she's like,

(01:01:13):
yeah.
And what they do withcelebrities is, you know, they
do the first and last nameinitials.
So it's like, yeah, a person isC and this is going to happen.
So, and I'm like, who's C?
She's like, well, are you gonnatake the job?
And I'm like, yeah, I'll takethe job.
Who is it?
She's like, all right, becausewe need a liaison between the
production and help and helppeople.
I'm like, so who is it?
She goes, do you know who CindyLapa is?

(01:01:35):
I'm like, yeah, I know whoCindy.
Well, yeah, that's what he isgonna be.
So initially it was a Cosentcommercial, right?
And we are sitting there doing acommercial, and Cindy's like,
who is this kid?
She always called me kid, and,and then I'm like, all right,
that's the first time.
Then the second time she hiredme again.
The third time I get hiredagain.
So the third time I'm like, Isaid, Cindy, I was like, is it a

(01:01:56):
coincidence?
I, I said, I don't know if it'sweird.
I was like, this is the thirdtime, like me doing it, like
working with you like.
Isn't not weird that we keepworking together.
She goes, no kid, I tell them tohire you.
I want you to work with mebecause I like, I love how you
work.
She's like, you pay attention todetails like it is, but it's
just not that you rememberthings really well.
You're attentive, like you're anice guy.
You got a nice smile.
And then out of all of that Iwas like, right, so I'm here for

(01:02:19):
a reason and I gotta understandwhat am I here for?
Because this doesn't happenregularly.
Right?
And then eventually it becamelike, Hey kid, and we sitting
out eating lunch with eachother.
We talking, you know, this don'thappen.
I'm, I'm in as a pa, right?
I'm in Jones before he's a moviestar and she's just saying like,
kid, whatever you wanna do, makesure you do it.
You know, I know like what youdoing with this and stuff, you

(01:02:41):
helping me and it's great andstuff, but like, I know there's
something more to you.
Like, what do you wanna do?
She was always asking me, but,and she shared stories about her
and her upbringing and like whyshe wrote, um, true colors.
Like she told me about like howher best friend, well, she was a
black girl at the time, livingin Queens at 14, 14 years old.
And she seen her best friend gettreated like a third class
citizen.
So like that bothered her.

(01:03:01):
So she, you know, and then she'sfamily oriented and she, she
showed me how to move in a roomfull of Voes

Raymundo (01:03:07):
Like I show him how to move in a room to be taken over,
right?

ryan (01:03:14):
But that's, I've seen her bark on white guys, but then
I've seen her come back in fiveminutes and apologize for losing
her temper.
I've seen fans come to, oh myGod, Sandy, oh my God.
She's like, Hey, hey, hey, I oweyou guys a favor.
Like, you guys are been a fanfor me for over 30 years.
Like, you guys are fanning overme.
Like, Hey,

I'm, I'm human too.
Is she the most humble personyou've worked with?
I mean, or is it Spike

ryan (01:03:37):
She has humility.
That's what she told me.
no disrespect fight, but, and itsucks sometimes, like hearing
things about certain people, butthen like, kind of like when you
see in a person, it's kind oflike different and you are like,
oh man, like I don't hope thisnot to be true.
And then you see it and it'slike, hmm, yeah, it kind of does
fit the description, you know?

(01:03:57):
So I kind of avoided workingwith him.
Not to say I would never workwith him, not even like a cop
out, but it's just like, I'm allabout character, bro.
And if you treat somebody whodon't have anything or less than
you, or they feel like you, youknow, you are in a lesser
position, then it is time that Ikind of don't respect.
Like, and I understand there'sroles, people have roles, but
like you still talk to somebodywith respect and courtesy and

(01:04:17):
certain things.

So you're saying that you treat the same, you give the
same respect to the janitor as aceo?

ryan (01:04:24):
Have to.
Cause you don't know, this isAmerica.
There's a, like, you could be,you could be homeless one day
and then Tyler Perry sitting incars and stuff, and the next,
you know, work your way up.
You know, my homeboy too, hecame to New York.
He was homeless, legit homeless.
He was homeless in New York andnow he's a millionaire.
You know, he's married to, youknow, a celebrity, you know, she
throw her thing la to like, I'veseen people come from stuff.

(01:04:47):
So it's like you don't treatsomebody just because they're in
a lesser position.
And I was in a lesser positionand now look, I'm helping people
doing what they doing, helpingthem succeed and stuff.

So not spike man.
And, and like I say,

ryan (01:04:59):
its not, again, I don't wanna say anything bad about him
is just what I, what I witnessedin that time.
And he could have been under alot of stress.
But the thing that I washearing, I'm just like, and then
like, it wasn't even that, bro,it, I'll explain this story.
He was in the middle of thestreet talking on the phone, but
it is a green, you know, greenlight and the car beep, beep,
beep.
And he just walking.
Yeah.
You and just.

(01:05:20):
And I'm like, nobody gonna saynothing to spite.
Now mind you, I'm not workingwith him.
So I don't really, it's not myjob, but people kinda afraid to
say things to people cause theyafraid of getting fired or like,
Hey, that's that person.
You can't say that.
I'm like, no, he about get hit.
So I'm like, I'm yo out thestreet.
And he kind like he me, he kindlooked up and was just like,
alright.
And, but it's like, bro, likeyou can't just walk in the

(01:05:41):
streets cause you about to filmsomething and they supposed to
let you spike.
It's just like, bro, like yo,

you, it's crazy.
You was made for that.
Like I'm thinking, I'm like, yo,uh, if I ever, not even if I
ever, whenever my time comes,I'm fucking hiring you on the
spot.
Yo, let me tell you something.
I don't know if it's the Ramshow.
I don't know what it is man.
But if there's a project that wecan work on and get money
together and like really helpeach other eat, like, I don't

(01:06:06):
know what that project lookslike, but I'm putting it in the
universe cuz yo bro, like yougot character.
You got code, you got morals,and you got ethics.
It's hard to find that man.
a lot of people know, you know,a lot of people are salesmen.
They know how to make it seemlike that's who they are, but I
don't know.
It's like that shit is comingout your pores.
Like I'm the truth motherfucker.

(01:06:27):
Yeah.
It, it,

ryan (01:06:28):
it, bro, I What's that movie Hustling Flow when Keith
was like, yo, there's somepeople that walk to walk.
There's some people that talk totalk.
I wanna, I wanna be able towalk.
So by the time I tell you abouttalking, I'm already walking
again.

I like that.
That's awesome.

ryan (01:06:43):
Yeah.
I'm not sitting here trying totell you a bro, like, I got a
million dollars, I got no, I'm,I'm gonna work towards it and
I'm gonna show you to Now whenI'm talking, it's like, yo, he
ain't gotta talk much.
Mm-hmm.
I ain't gotta talk too much.
I'm gonna keep doing what I'mdoing and I'm a, team player,
bro.
You know that I'm number two

word.
I don't,

ryan (01:07:03):
bro, there's a problem with this, this society, bro.
When.
when it, we don't make theclothes on our backs, right?
We don't go to foods that weeat.
So it's a problem, especiallyamongst men, where it's like
somebody telling somebody elsewhat to do or following orders
or you couldn't tell me what todo.
And it's like, bro, I don't, themost successful hunters are the
ones that hunt in the pack,right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Lions, wild dogs.

(01:07:24):
Wolves the most successfulhunters, bro, they hop in pack.
And so you gotta be a part of ateam.
You gotta know what, what roleyou playing in.
Are you the flint?
Are you attack?
Are you wanna stay behind?
You that lead to charge.
Like, you gotta understand, Idon't mind being Aman, you know
what I'm saying?
As long as I'm on thechampionships and this is why I
love about the Margaret Jordanlast dance cuz he's like, bro, a

(01:07:44):
lot of us don't know how to win.
And then when you know how towin and then somebody coming up,
boy, it's like, play yourposition bro.
And you mad about you not beinga star, but like now when you
Mike and you being scrutinizedfor, you know, missing the last
shot or whatever case may be,you don't want

that.
Yeah.
So people living this?

ryan (01:08:00):
Yeah, people living in this, in this, this world of
like, oh no, fuck outta here.
Nobody gonna tell me what to do.
And it's like, but so who makethat straight for you.
Like we all need that.
We all need somebody that'sgonna be like a part of that
team.

Yeah, man, you, you gotta be led before you lead and
who the fuck wants to win by theself.
This ain't like, this ain't themasters, ain't golf Duke.
I ain't Tiger was, I'm trying tobe, I'm trying to win that
championship and pop thatchampagne with my team.
Ain't nothing like winning.
And your team winning too, yo.
Like when I was in real estate,that's the only time I felt that
we would all get deals that dayand that day we would get fucked

(01:08:34):
up and we will fight.
No, I got this, I got this, Igot this.
But

ryan (01:08:38):
even what bro?
The trainers like, even withTiger Woods, they got sparring
partners and, and golfing.
But like you nobody everhimself, bro.
That's

true.
That's true.
Nobody.
That's true.
we get here and lead byourselves, but, being part of
something is, is in our dna.
Like I mentioned this in thewhat you say,

ryan (01:08:59):
because it takes two people to create one person.
So from your, so from your conyour ins, your inception, right
from the time you were conceivedto the time you died, there's
somebody constantly helping you.
There was two people to bringyou into this world.
There's gonna be two people tolay your ass when it's all said
and done.
So throughout your whole entirelife, your whole art, there's
somebody helping you.
So to have that mindset, to belike, I don't wanna be a part of

(01:09:20):
something.
No, you were born a part ofsomething.
You came from two people.

Exactly.
Now, you know, I think I knowthe episode title.
It's all about perspective.
Mm.
Your perspective is like, areyou, I don't know when you're
gonna write this book, but youbetter get the fucking journal.
You better get the fuckingnotepad or the, or the laptop
ready.
Just make sure.
You know, you don't give it toChandler, but

ryan (01:09:53):
laptops.
I'm not done with this filmstuff.
It's not

my That's awesome to hear, man.
Cuz um, I feel like you madeyour mark in the time you was
there.
Like in a, in a superficialworld, you added like the word,
the human aspect to it.
Mm-hmm.
you add the groupie aspect toit.
Mm-hmm.
and I would be like that too.
I feel like I like getting love,but I don't like getting like,

(01:10:17):
Like over the top.
I love people that be like,listen you, I like the way you
podcast, but you need to brushyour fucking hair.
And I'm like, yo.
I'm from New York.
I haven't found the barber thatI can trust.
I did find the barber.
Yep.
They were, they weren't clean,bro.
What's a quality you noticethat's constant in someone
that's successful or, you know,is taking care of business?

ryan (01:10:41):
Love, love it.
Everything is broken down to, itis simplifi to just love bro.
Like, it is, it is.
Either you would love or you oryou would kind of tolerate it.
I'm not gonna say not love, butit was like, you know,
responsibilities

is everything.
I thought he was gonna say hardwork, hard work, work, work.
No, but you can really, right.
You can tell who was loved whenthey were young and who wasn't
that you could tell cause.
the validation.
Mm-hmm.
how much validation you need tobe fine.
If you don't need, if you don'tneed any validation, you, you, I
feel like you getting in touchwith your, the God in you.

(01:11:19):
Cause God is having humanexperience through you.
You can create you, you, he can,you can't create like God, but
you can create, you canmanifest.
It's another way right.
Towards it.
But you know what I'm saying?
That's dope, man.
So love, love makes adifference, man.
Only if we use more love, wewould be in

ryan (01:11:39):
And, and what I mean by love is just actually like doing
the work, like showing up forpeople.
If you say you gonna dosomething, do it.
You know?
Um, just being impeccable aboutyour words and, and holding
yourself accountable, you know,and, and not making excuses.
Like that's really what it iswhere I, no matter where I've
been at, no matter what I'veseen, you know, from the

(01:12:01):
thorough countries, from Somaliato Haiti, you know, to North
Carolina.
Like I've seen it all.
I've seen the good, the bad, andthe ugly.
And bro, it's just, it's reallyabout love, bro.
Like I, I've been in NorthCarolina like even before the
military, like I've been in likea situation where, you know, the
white person, you know, doesn'tnecessarily like black people

(01:12:21):
and it had nothing to do withnothing.
They never even met a blackperson.
And when they did, it was justtheir own interpretation.
So I've been in a situation likethat.
I've been in countries wherethey never seen black people
ever they life.
And when they did Georgia, thecountry, Georgia, bro, they
didn't even know black peopleexisted.
They thought it was a myth ontv.
Like, I've been to places likethat.
Like I let a little girl touchmy skin.

(01:12:41):
Like, stuff like that isimpacting.
So she's gonna grow up foreverknowing that black people really
exist and that she touched skinof a black man.
And she could be, I don't likeshe was, think she might have
been, no, no older than about 10years old.
That was what, 10 years ago?
11 years ago.
So, She's a young adult now.

You know, I didn't even, I didn't even know they
were parts of the world thatdidn't know the exact Yeah, bro.

ryan (01:13:02):
Yeah.
Georgia.
Georgia never

seen fuck that shit is like, where that shit is that on
the moon

ryan (01:13:14):
at act?
He goes, yeah, it's himself.
I said, no, no, no, no.
Not that.
Georgia.
Georgia, the country, like whereit comes from, you know?
Cause you know America's nameafter a bunch of, like other
places from other parts of theworld.
So yeah, bro.
Like they never seen

white people.
I knew of Georgia though.
Cause I used to work with, whenI first first started real
estate, I met these dudes andthey said they was from Georgia.
And I was like, oh shit, attishort.
He was like, no, no, no.
The country.
I said, oh, they were, theywere, they didn't, I remember
Dan David, man, he, he, my game,my first real estate start.
another thing I wanted to askyou, everything you've been
through, what role does fearplay in your life?

ryan (01:13:50):
I don't have no fear.
I mean it's, it is like venomand, and it is like Venom and
Brock, right?
It's life is about adversity.
So no matter what, you gottaaccept it.
Cause that's, that is life,right?
And I just depend on myself tomake, make sure I'm good.
Cuz can nobody else make megood?
I, I have to be good by myself.

(01:14:10):
And so it's just like theequivalent of a bird landing on
a tree branch.
He's not dependent on thebranch.
If it breaks for the, you know,to hold him up, it's dependent
on his wings to fly, the abilityto fly.
So if you don't believe that youcan fly, then you gonna be
depending on the tree branch andyou, you going be blame the key
branch.
Oh, it's your fault.
It is your fault.
So there's no fear with me.
Like I'm not afraid to die.
I'm not afraid, like if my auntget cut off, like

you got Haitian in your blood, you got Haitian in
your blood.
Nah

ryan (01:14:38):
man,

it's um, I just, cause I just learned, hey, some is
glorified death.
Like they not glorified, butthey ready for that shit.
And let me tell you something,you can't focus somebody that's
ready to die with you.
I'm gonna be like, you got it,you got go.
You got it.
You win.

ryan (01:14:55):
Because, but it is, it is how they make death seem like
they, like, we, we glorify lifejust like we glorify like living
on land, but we don't realizethis is a whole different life
after death.
Like there's real energy thatcarries.
And I seen him with my dad, likewatch my, I watched my dad take
his last breath in the hospital,so it's kinda like a full circle
type of thing.
Like, he watched me take myfirst breath.

(01:15:17):
I, so I'm literally,

that's crazy.
You know what happened to metoo?
My passed right in front of me,bro.
And I Oh man.
They were like, call the nurse.
I was, oh sorry you went throughthat brother.
That's.
I know.

ryan (01:15:30):
And I remember, I remember you was going through that and I
related so much to it.
I just, at the time I came, youknow, it is computer.
I didn't see you.
So it was just like, and I knowd it's, it was a lot going on,
so I was just like, I knew whatyou were going through, bro.
So I was, I just like, you know,when the time was right, we was
gonna talk about it, but

you was there without even knowing.
And I was there without evenknowing, you know what I'm
saying?
Mm-hmm.
like, I don't know.
And I feel like, yo, there wasa, like when my mother was sick
and I was dating this girl, youknow, like I had a wrong
perception or wrong idea.
What love was.
I always focused on the loveoutside of me.
Mm-hmm.
when I finally found that lovefor myself, you know, when it

(01:16:08):
really started, when I accepteddeath as an option, not that as
an option, like I accepted thatdeath can happen to me, anything
can happen to me, but I can'tstop living my life because of
what might happen to me.
Because now I'm missing out allthese things that can help me
grow and actually get to thislife that I want to live.
So I've always had, like, I'vealways been my worst enemy.

(01:16:29):
The only reason I'm not where Iwanna be is not because the
system is not because of myfriends and not because it's
because the choices I've madewasn't coming from love.
It was coming from fear andlack.
And sometimes, yeah, it's goodto make a decision, but it
should be rooted in love.
It should be rooted in faith andit should be rooted in you.

(01:16:50):
Mm-hmm.
So I feel like, you know, I'vegot that understanding, but the
understanding process is notcomplete until you show, it
shows in your actions, in yourwords, in your walk.
Yo, we about, we about to make ablog out this fucking episode.
You here, we got lot of songs,You working hard, you making
moves.
What is it all for what are youworking towards your, your end

(01:17:13):
game

ryan (01:17:14):
I feel like I'm an anomaly right now.

Malcom (01:17:17):
oh shit I feel like the, the me having advantage of
having my dad and having acommunity, you know, a lot of
great people come from where Icome from and some of us didn't
make it like my dad didn't makeit, you know, unfortunately.
And I feel like I'm kind of notborn in the wrong time, but my
goal is to really just havepeople want to be better, to

(01:17:38):
operate out of a place of loveinstead of fear.
And it's not about changing theworld, bro.
I just want to be able to play afew seeds to say, yo, This,
there's hope, there's a good inthis world.
And Ryan was an example, like, Idon't want be like, oh my God,
like Ryan was trying to go outthere and change the world.
Like, well, like my grandmothersaid, this world is cynical,
Ryan.
And the people in it are cynicalas well.

(01:18:00):
Your job is to make sure youdon't become cynical.
So I want, so yeah, I wanna belike, it's kind like that
superhero, like I want a besymbol of hope because people
need that.
It's so much bad and evil andyou know, it's, it's easy to do
that.
It's easy to fall into the trashand get, oh yes, oh, I'm going
through this.
I'm using this as a, and I'musing my trauma as a cru.
It's to use that, bro, I washomeless.

(01:18:21):
I in abandoned with my pops inthe seventh grade.
In the seventh grade.
I looked in the, in the middleof my pops.
Like, I nobody, like, I'm notholding onto these things, bro.
Cause all it does is just allowme to grow in this experience.
The life that we have, bro, weonly have one time to
experience.
we made, some of us made itthrough the portal when we
experiencing his life, thephysical ground.

(01:18:42):
But bro, like when it's over anddone, I wanna be able my soul to
go back and like, yo, like I hadan experience and I'm good with
that.
And when I left it, I'm good.
And at least they know there'ssome type of hope.
That's it.

Yo, there's a few things.
One, you're making me want toget my earrings back cuz you're
fucking shining, right?
Two I I could see us beingsuccessful.
Mm-hmm.
just cause you on the samewavelength and with your
experience.
And I just need to, a, I need, Iknow, I know what part I add,
but I need the, I need to workon the hard work, man.

(01:19:15):
Like on the phone, you know whatRyan told me?
He said, yo, I'm at a placewhere I don't gotta brag about
what I do, cause my work speaksfor itself.
And I remember that day I waslike, woo.
Like I was like, brick Ross.
I was like, woo.
I was like, every day, every dayhe's hustling, hustling word.

(01:19:38):
last question before we, wefind, we tell people where to
find you, right.
What advice would you givesomeone that been through some
shit, think there's no hopestill hanging on to the things
that broke them down.
if you can sum it up in asentence, what would you like
tell that person that'll makethe difference for them.

ryan (01:19:57):
it is simple really is you have to know who you are first.

Mm.

ryan (01:20:03):
and it kind of goes back to like your parents.
So it's like, even if you don'tknow them, it's like get adjust
of who they are.
So, you know, like how they wereangry, how they would trigger.
And by knowing that you start toknow yourself.
And then now it's like you get asense of, and then now when the
problems come about, it's like,because you know who you are,
things are different now.
Like the, the perspective isdifferent, right?

(01:20:24):
You're not so much like, oh man,I'm struggling with this.
It's like you have anunderstanding of like your
capabilities and what you'reable to do and what you're not
able to do.
Secondly is, Go where you're go,where you're celebrated.
And I'm not talking about like,oh my God, like people liking
you just for being cute.
Cause that's that thing now,being fly, being cool.
Like that's corny.
I'm talking about character.
go somewhere where, where youwant to be in a place of service

(01:20:47):
and you know you want to giveback and you'll find your tribe,
right?
Just doing the things that youlove.
Find the things that you lovedoing, like, and compare like
what you do on a day to daybase.
And compare the things that youlove to do and you'll see how
far off you are.
And once you start doing justputting the work and just keep
doing the work, you are gonnarealize like a lot of things
that you used to stress over thethings that used to like try to

(01:21:10):
figure out is easier now.
Like your perspective isdifferent.
And it's just about theprogramming man.
Like, you know, hypothalamus,it, it starts here, you know, so
you been growing up the wholetime dealing with trauma and gun
fights and arguing, going zeroto a hundred and that's what you
gonna know.
So you gotta change yourenvironment.
Sometimes you, you can't healthem the place that you're
hurting in, some family membersaren't really family at all.

(01:21:32):
It's just, you know, y'all sharethe same blood.
So, but it, it goes back to likedoing yourself, bro.
Accepting yourself and thenoperating from a place of love.
Sorry, for that long.

Nah, nah, nah, that was, that was perfect cuz it
reminded me of a saying, right?
Where a guy said, what's, what'sthe thing you heard in life that
was bullshit?
And he goes, it's not thatsimple.
He goes, what do you mean howshe goes, no, it's not that
simple.
Cause it is.
You want something, you do it.
It's that simple.
I was, that was, I was like, oh,I feel like I got the shotty to

(01:22:01):
the, you know what I'm saying?

ryan (01:22:03):
To.

Oh, you might miss Christmas.
I told guns.
I mean, The evolution of Ryanstating AKA automatic, aka a,
uh, Mr.
Humble, aka my, now

ryan (01:22:19):
tell, tell the name that I had, tell me to see it.

Which not.
Oh, we said automatic, but therewas another one, right?
Yeah.

ryan (01:22:29):
But gotta tell him

we trying to remember.
You don't remember.
I, I don't remember.
Right.
So

ryan (01:22:36):
in today's day and age, I think it would be they be, oh, y
he's suspect, but I don't careno more.
Motherless.
Skittles.

Oh, Skittle

ryan (01:22:45):
Skittles.

Skittles.
Yo.
You know what I, you know what Iremember, you know, you know
what I'm laughing.
Cause Jason was like, yo, Ryancame to me and he goes, yo, you
know what they call me?
And, and he thought he was gonnasay, he thought you was gonna
say some gangster nigga saidSkittles,

ryan (01:23:04):
skis.
It takes, come on.
I said Right Justin Timber like,alright, that's enough fucking
big ass area.
This shit fucking jealous head.

You want to hear some shit.
So you know, me and Jason wascomedian, like everything was
joking.
We had this thing when we usedto hang up, we used to be like,
alright nigga.
Skittles like, right bro.
Skit.
To this day that we still dothat.
When I talk to him, I'm like,right nigga Skittles, he still
says it, bro.
Yo that's crazy.
But tell'em where they can findyou, man.

ryan (01:23:33):
So y'all can find me, right?
I'm gonna tell you my Instagramcause my Facebook little crazy,
but you can find me at slim b.
Cool is s i lm the letter B Andthen cool.
Um, and then on Facebook youcould find me at Ryan Staton.
Um, and you could find me atyour local deli store.
You may find me at the BarclaysMaster Square Garden.

(01:23:56):
You may find me upstate inAlaska, downtown uptown.
You know, it may find me irony.
You might find me.
I could be anywhere.
Just I'll say this, access isbetter than money.
Alright?
Access is better than money.

That's fire.
Um, any, any little project youcan share in the works that we
could look forward to?

ryan (01:24:19):
Yeah.
Um, I'm, I'm working on a TVgame show right now.
I'm creating it.
Yeah.
Might see Ray hosting.
You know, it might be Charlieever.
He know he get fired.
It just may just be, you know,him hosting a show for a week or
two, you know, you know, givingopportunity and Oh man.
But, um,

that would be, that would be an honor, man.
Even if you, you know, I respectthe game.
You get somebody that's gonnakill it, but you gonna have to
take, he gonna have to do betterthan me.
If he do better than me.
He deserve that spot.

ryan (01:24:52):
that's how

it's right.
Yeah, man.
Oh man.
God, bro.
A game show host.
That was the dream.
One of my dreams was the, Idon't know, cuz it's hard.
Steve Harvey, man, you.
After family few.
I don't know who, I don't knowwho's gonna be able to do that
shit again.
Like he's, yeah.
And then he said, oh, namestart.
That starts with H uh, Jose.

ryan (01:25:15):
Poupon.
He said Report.
Pup Ponn.
Oh man.
Coupon

Yo.
But yo, Ryan, my brother, I wantto thank you for joining me on
the Raymundo Show.
Your words on here will, uh,will be cemented, if that's the
proper word.
Um, shit, you gave me a, anotherlight that I didn't even know
was in the area.
You, the show went.

(01:25:42):
The show was supposed to becalled behind the scenes, but
this conversation turned intoperspective, which is very
important because.
If you have dreams and goals inthe wrong perspective, them
shits will bump the fuck, theywill bump together.
They'll bump heads like the timewhere there was only two cars in
the world and they ended upbumping to each other.
I don't know the chances of thathappening, but that's fucking

(01:26:04):
wild, son.
I think it was in Cleveland.
I ain't, I ain't like, yo, shutup.
She like, watch the rope man.
I'm the only car boo Oh yeah,there was one more.
what you experience, what, youknow, this, this code and ethics
that you embody is gonna inspirea lot of young, old, middle

(01:26:28):
class.
It don't matter, man.
Just, there's certain people yougotta tell'em, even, even
including myself, yo Ray, don'tstop, but Yo Ryan, you ain't
gonna stop.
Yeah.
Know what I'm saying?
You gonna be like, puffy waswhen, when we thought bad boys
was a place, a good place towork.
yo man was, was otherwise, butum, yeah man, you fucking

(01:26:51):
inspiration.
You fucking boss and you afucking leader.
So keep bleeding and keep makinga difference in those kids live
and those men's live or women,anybody that comes across you,
is gonna be different after thatday cuz they met you bro.
So.
Oh man, I appreciate that bro.
And you know we family bro.
I love you man.
Love me too.

(01:27:11):
We fucking gotta hang out cuzthere's no way we, we fucking
brothers and we haven't hung outin this But look, look how
everything happened, man.
You know, like you got a wholedifferent worldview of
experience that a lot of us wishwe had, and your way of thinking
is beyond your age, tapped intoyour past life.

(01:27:31):
So let's give it up for itmatter All right, brother, til
next time.
Til next time.

(01:28:44):
And we all looked at things thesame.
Life would be boring as fuck.
The Bates would be no more andeverybody would agree.
With Kanye.
Your brain changes when it'schallenge.
It's part of the progress.
Aggressive growth.
Was for your mindset is apriceless acquisition.
When you invest in you, theygonna think give returns has
something to do with insidertrading.

(01:29:04):
What I'm saying?
Keep your eyes on the prize andkeep your mouth open.
Open.
Like the Bible of a pastor.
You might come across a personwith a different point of view.
That can make your visionclearer.
Enhancing idea.
That could take you from goodsare phenomenal.
From ordinary.
Ordinary.
To extraordinary.
From learning.
To enlighten.

Malcom (01:29:24):
what the fuck was that It could be something you need
to hear.
Like.
A new track from your favoriteartists.
Or something you need to see.
Like a movie.
What's your favorite?
Actor.
So when it comes to perspectiveNo, that is not that someone has
a better one, but a differentone.
That can help you right now orin the long run.
Like my brother ryan A kautomatic emphasize lead.

(01:29:44):
lead with love And eventuallyAll the blessings you deserve
We'll follow But i like to thinkout for tuning into the raimundo
show.
Well this is your first time areyou a regular I appreciate you i
like to take my brother BrianStayton for Doing his thing For
having a perspective so dopethat he Pretty much named.

(01:30:05):
named the episode Uh definitelygoing to have him on the show
again But you already know hopeyou have the best perspective
Hope y'all learn your lessons Uhand i hope you always leave with
love Well Till next time peaceLove mundo Ah,

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