System Malfunction

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(00:17):
Yeah.
is your host.
Raimundo welcome to my showWell, we self-improve fond dog
groove.
Relate.
Not educate, but learn some shitin a process.
This is episode 42 system mouthfunction.

(00:38):
It's the topic that I wanted tocover.
Because I see the lottainjustice.
I just wanted to cover theprison part of it, because I got
some thoughts about it for like,So i got to show for it, but
let's get into it Let's go let'sgo.

(01:03):
The quote of the day.
Comes from.
Nelson Mandela.
No one truly knows a nationuntil one has been inside.
It's jails.
Uh, Neisha should not be judgedby how it treats his highest
citizens.
But as low as ones.
Yo, that's such a.
Strong strong fucking cool.
Cause it goes to the.
Um, do you treat.

(01:24):
The janitor.
With the same respect that youtreat the CEO.
I mean in a way.
And it's like, You know, our geosystems are known for a lot of
fucked up shit happening,whether the way they got there
or when they got A lot of shithappened that.
Gets a blind eye.
And it just continues to getworse crime.

(01:44):
Don't get better.
They come back out, they go backin.
And the cycle continues in.
It shows a lot about us, right?
Like, as a country, as a nation,whatever the fuck you want to
call it.
You know, we blackballed them.
We.
Treat them like they're not evenhuman beings.
that make mistakes that I feellike some of them may, some of
their mistakes of course is.

(02:05):
Therefore Big extent.
But there's other, It's almostlike a little trap.
And.
You know, a lot of us don't knowbetter.
We fall into Like.
You know, I thank God.
I haven't had any.
You know, Situation with thelaw, but it could have happened.
It could have been made thefriend of myself.
Their stories were like, Youever seen those stories where

(02:25):
like, Uh, person.
Like Kilz there.
There kidnapper or sextrafficker, and they have to pay
and go to jail and go throughall this shit for saving their
lives.
Like it just says shit that itjust.
It shouldn't be different, Andthat's just a little small
sample.
There's always somebody suingthe city.
Four.
Doing time.

(02:46):
You know, before they had atechnology.
To prove that they were guiltyor to prove that they were
innocent.
and.
I don't know, man.
I feel like I just wish thatthat.
The higher rubs just did abetter job of.
Helping they're helping themwith their minds.
So they can come back to societyin flourish.
Not fall back.
And Nelson Mandela, man.
He's such a symbol of hope.

(03:08):
This guy, the 27 years in jail.
And.
Came out and became thepresident of South Africa.
And.
He went through some shit injail, man.
They had them doing some wildlabor and all types of
conditions.
There was, I was reading a bookwhere they mentioned him, which,
which gave me the idea to talkabout it on this episode.
And.
Uh, I think they made him dig uphis own grave and lamb and made

(03:30):
him lay in there.
I don't know, they made them gothrough some fucked up But for
him.
To be able to come out.
And.
Having the effect.
Mandela had an effect on.
Uh, country.
Oh, whole people from all walksof life.
And, you know, he was a blackman that did this.
and you might think SouthAfrica, but.
It's different over You shoulddefinitely give you hope, you

(03:53):
know, and there's a lot of Thatwe're able to get locked up and
find a path for themselves.
I was going to mention TimAllen.
But then doing the research.
I figured how he probably got.
You know, his catch thing wherethey were like, yo.
If you don't snitch.
You got to do mad years, hewould probably was like, Uh,

(04:15):
Let's get it to the episodesystem out function Yeah.
So on this episode, systemmalfunction.
You know what I'm saying?
We talk about difficulties inthe system.
That's not right.
I feel like I needed, uh, mybrother to join me on this one.

(04:35):
it's, it is been destined forhim to be on the show.
my fucking brother from anothermother named Ramona What?
Let's give it up for my brother.
Welcome to the show, brother.

(04:56):
Man.
I appreciate it, and it'sdefinitely a blessing to be out
here with you, man.
Especially man here, but we hereworry man.
Yo.
And I always tell you, man, I'mglad when you out here living
life, you know what I'm saying,Being your best, you and that,
that's never a problem for you.
So bro.
But, um, yeah, also, there'scertain phrases that I use that

(05:20):
you heard on the show that like,I'd be like, Dad, if he had a
copywriter, my bro could sue myshit But you know, that's,
that's all him right there.
But you know, you could getanything, man.
All that shit.
We could do this shit together,man.
Copyright it together.

(05:40):
We get this ready, you know, I'msaying your money.
Shout out to Bobby up.
Well, I, no, he's been wildlately.
I don't know.
Uh, But before we get into the,before we get into the, you
know, the body of the episode, Iwanna, first, I want the, you

(06:01):
know what I'm saying, want mylisteners to find, you know, to
know how I know my brother, howwe met.
And it started a long, long timeago.
There.
I wanna say shit.
Well, I, I know I was 11.
Jackie, Rob and, uh, yo, 11years old, right?
He's, he, you know what I'msaying?
He's dating, uh, uh, my homegirlLilly.

(06:21):
Shout out.
Yo, shout out the Lilly shout.
Shout.
she was like, Yo, this is myman.
Uh, he likes basketball, karate.
I was like, you like basketballKarate?
Yo yo word about you rememberthat shit?
Hell yeah.
It was nigga.
That was, that was day one sinceeight one.

Malcom (06:42):
i dont think he remembered You Yo, you imagine.
So if we would've stayed atkarate, would've had black bells
by now.
So niggas would've been stupid.
But tell him you still got thehands though.
Tell him Yeah, I still got thewax on.
Wax off.
Yo, you better ask to Karatekicked you.

(07:04):
No such thing.
Bad student.
Teacher.
That's, that's what I callson.
That's what I call son.
So then yo, but our friendshiphit another level.
When we went to this, we wentto, we went in the same class
the next year, 7 0 9.

(07:26):
And I never been suspendedbefore.
And I got suspended with thatclass three times.
Everybody in there hadcharacter.
Yo, shout out to Ray, rest inpeace to Jose.
Word man.
I think about I can't believethat shit, bro.
It's crazy, man.
Crazy.
A lot of young folks gone soearly.
I know, man.
It's, it's been happening moreoften.

(07:47):
Especially I feel like eversince the Covid, like people
that I know, a lot, I'm gettinga lot of, seen a lot of R ips
that I'm not, I saw'em before,but not like at the rapid rate
that it is now.
Yeah.
You don't even expect it.
Like, it's just crazy now.
This shit is rough.
Yeah, man.
But um, yeah, man, that's thepiece to him.
Condolences to the family.
Um, yo, I forgot Smokey was inmy class.

(08:10):
Oh man.
Yo, yo.
Oh man.
He don't go by smoking no more.
Smokey was about dude, bro.
It's crazy.
I gave him that name.
That nigga never smoked a bluntin his life.
nigga just always had a pencilin his mouth.
He's like, Yeah, we gonna callyou Smokey.

(08:31):
Oh man, that's just stuck tothat kid everywhere he went.
Yeah.
My name Smokey to this day, I'msmoke.
Yo.
That's crazy.
I didn't even know he didn'tsmoke.
this shit, Oh no, actually,damn, damn.
I shouldn't even did that.
You know what?
I forgot to ask you the first question.
Yo, can you please tell thepeople where you from?

(08:54):
I'm from Brooklyn, Bushwick, NewYork.
Get to the of this evening.
But yeah.
Um, I feel like a lot of peopleput a blind eye to this shit.
A lot of dudes, a lot of evenfemale get locked up for either

(09:14):
shit they shouldn't get lockedup for or some type of
miscommunication.
They fit the description.
Like it's all types of shit,man.
And you know what's crazy?
You would think if they lockingpeople up at a rapid rate, that
crime will be down and it's not.
So, to me, this shit don't work.
It don't what I'm saying.
and I hate to hear stories ofpeople doing like fucking 30, 40

(09:37):
year old bids, bro.
And they didn't even do it, bro.
Like, know what I mean?
Shit is so sad about, you know,what hurts more about that
situation?
How many people are still inthere that they still have No,
Like some people give a hopeafter a while.
Like, Damn, I didn't do thiscrime, but they already slay me,
so now I'm gonna just sit backand take this time.
Cause it's like everybody thinkI did it now.

(09:57):
Like it's people in there rightnow to this day.
Like that's, I was, I was lockedup with some guy named SUNY Bro.
Mr.
Suny, bro.
That's the guy.
Escape from jail with Tupac auntor some shit, or mother or some
shit.
Oh, with the Cuba, he's stilllocked up right now.
And during Covid and all that,they did not let him go, Yo bro,

(10:19):
this old man is like about ahundred years old, still doing
pushups, pullups, and throw mynigga like straight up.
Like, and for for you said forsome shit he didn't do, bro.
They, for some shit that islike, bro, he escaped.
They giving niggas like sevenyears for that like connection
life.
And they get, he's never cominghome, bro.

(10:39):
Like his hope is gone.
He's, that's my fault.
That, that's what I don'tunderstand.
How could someone that didsomething not, There's murderers
that get out faster than that.
There's rapist and that's,that's something I was talking
about one of my boys about theother day.
I said like the way the systemis set up is like they want the

(11:01):
murderers and people like thatto come out quicker for they
could get rid of more people.
So now as far as that's likeselling drugs to survive and
provide, they get slaved.
Why?
Because they going around thesystem.
So now they don't want you out.
Cause now you gonna get a wholebunch of other dudes to do the
same shit you doing now.
Ain't no taxes getting paid,It's a whole bunch of shit.

(11:22):
Yeah.
You feel what I'm saying?
Like Yeah.
Yeah.
Everybody gonna wanna be behindthe, I mean the government, like
around them, fuck them like, youknow, And that's just, and it is
crazy him saying that like, jailis a fucking trillion dollar
business, bro.
Do you know how much they make?
Every inmate a year.

(11:43):
Certain country, there's certainplaces that they get 500, but
over here they making a hundredand something k a year for every
inmate that's locked up.
Do you wanna see the food thatthey was feeding me?
And I only got this cuz youknow.
Yeah, no, I'm, I'm gonna, I'mgonna, Oh, you know what we
could do?
Let's act like we looking at thepicture.

(12:05):
Nah, I could just show it to youlike, Oh, okay.
Okay, What the fuck is this?
Look at the product that theygive us in jail.
What the fuck is this?
Look, this shit is rub up.
That's crazy.
You just can't add a apple andcall that shit a nutritious

(12:25):
meal.
You know what I mean?
I got another part of the videoI want you to add on.
Yeah, of course, of course.
I took the, and went like this.
I said, Oh shit, if I wannaescape, I just put the by the
door.
The door won't close.
real won't close.
That's crazy bro.

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Fucking brick biscuits.
And that's nothing.
Yeah, man, they was doing, Butyou, but, but you were saying
too, like, it's like it's notset up for you.
It's not, it's really, it'sreally set up for you to be, to
come back.
Like Yeah, it's, it's almostlike it got like a boomerang
system.
Like, Yeah, we gonna let you goenough to bring you right the
fuck back because Right.

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Like, if nobody wants to hireyou and you already have that
thought in your head, theactions you're gonna take are
not gonna be, you're gonna goback to your old ways.
Like I, I, you know what I'msaying?
Like, of course there's otherroutes you could take, but I,
you can't blame bro, if yourfamily needs to eat, You need a
quick dollar.
A quick dollar is something notlegal, so sometimes you gotta do
what you gotta do.

(13:29):
All right.
See, another thing also is thatthese places, they, they say, Oh
is right.
Like if you a felon and you gotneed jobs and we can still help
you, but like they give you, butso much like, so your goal start
working and you, your, I donedid it three times, three
different sites.
Mm-hmm.
three different companies work.
My asshole bro.
To the point that people thatbeen working there for years,

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you know me, all my life bro.
I'm like MEbA when it comes toshit.
You know that.
Yeah, yeah, of course, ofcourse.
I see how they doing it and I'mhelping them do it even easier
that oh shit, this shit is smellgood, shit.
Boom.
Yo.
Next thing you know, I get firedright before I get in the union.
Oh, every time.
Aw, that's that bullshit.

(14:12):
Yeah.
It's not, it doesn't matter howgood of a worker you are, it
doesn't matter how on time youare, how punctu you, you are, it
doesn't matter.
It's just all about, I'm savingthese spots for niggas that's
not felon.
So, you know, it's like, Yeah,like they, they just using you
for the, for like the, like, youknow, you the frontline we did.
Yeah.
And that's crazy, man.
And it's like, it's sad man,because it's like, it's like

(14:35):
everybody deserves anotherchance.
Right?
And you, you're like fucking uptheir chances of really doing
something productive with theirlife by not giving them, doing,
Yeah.
Giving them the opportunity.
But most importantly is puttingthem in the right state of mind,
right?
Mm-hmm.
um, it kind of brings me back.

(14:56):
So the jail, right?
The, the police system, there's,they're origins.
I don't, like I said, this isjust for me doing research, so
don't take it as like, Oh, isthey gonna, you know, he don't
know what he talking about.
No, no.
Supposed say, I'm gonnaelaborate.
No, no, no.
I'm saying just, you know, forthe people that listen him, it
started as slave patrol, right?
So it was like they had the,they set up, you know, these

(15:19):
people on the street that, thatdid it in the name of God, you
know, to keep slaves in linefrom ever.
Uh, you know, rebelling againstthem, right?
So this, the, the, So that's whyI feel like if you see it now
today, right?
If you're black, you gotta, you,you're six times more likely to
get locked up than somebodywhite.

(15:40):
If you're Latino, you're two anda half times more like, but so
you gotta think about in the DNAof the police force, the origin
is slavery.
So it's crazy.
Uh, somebody walking with abriefcase can have a, can have
C4 and walk right by the, thewhole police agent cuz he got a
suit on.
And the dude that's probablyhelping real life that got

(16:00):
tattoos in the hoodie is theperson that's contributing to
life, that person to get pulledover.
Like, that's, it's just crazy.
Like we, we, we already, whenwe, Nah, go ahead.
My fault, I kind on going in.
No, no, I'm listening.
I said that's insane.
Like, it's true though.
Like I remember back in the day,Yo, it's crazy how certain
movies are showing us thisbefore it happens.
Remember watching don't be mento society while jig inducing

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the hood.
Remember that dude was takingeverything and these niggas just
buying shit and then son was theone doing everything.
Yeah.
Not knowing, Showing ussomething.

(16:49):
That's yo, that's a, mm-hmm.
You that day old when I foundout that men was trying to tell
me something in a joke form.
That's crazy, bro.
No, don't get me wrong.
Certain movies I catch on rightaway.
I'm like, Oh, they've beentelling us this, but it's crazy

(17:11):
how back then it's like, yeah,but back then it's like they put
it in your face and nobody,everybody just laughed at it.
They didn't know like, yo, thisis some serious shit.
Or you know, the shit was copsthat was only you see?
And now like, since I, when Iwas locked up, I was writing
movies and all that shit with mytime.
So now I was like putting oneand ones together and shit.
And I noticed that, believe itor not, they only did that, but

(17:34):
they could be able to get itthrough if they would've plainly
been saying, Yo, look, this iswhat they do to us.
The white man could dress up inanything and just go violate the
whole world and they gonna be onus cuz we hood, they wouldn't
let that shit go through.
We wouldn't have been able towatch that movie now.
It had to be in, uh, almostmaking fun of us type of way.
Yeah, yeah.

(17:54):
You know, to go through, I mean,what Yeah, but, you know, but
you gotta give it to them foreven trying to get the message
across through a movie.
Got it.
Even though it was funny, man.
when Marlin fill out the, thejob description, He's like, Oh,
sex.
Hell yeah, nigga.
He's like, Six dudes heights,six.
That shit, nigga, that shit was,but you see how you laugh, but

(18:17):
it's real shit.
Mm-hmm.
It's real shit.
It shows out with ignorance andshit, but mm-hmm.
it is what it is.
We learn from high loss, youfeel me?
Yeah.
But you know, that's the kind ofpoint of TV and movies, right?
You're watching it forentertainment to numb your mind
to the realities.
So that's, that's a dumb way forHollywood to sneak in.

(18:37):
Yeah.
And then that's also a way forHollywood to sneak in a, uh, a
narrative, right?
It's all mental.
and perspectives.
You notice that perspective.
Yeah.
Everything is mental andperspective.
It's all on how you look at shitand how you want to grasp it.
So something horrible couldhappen to you and you could take
it as, Damn, that shit justfucked my whole life up.

(18:59):
Or you could take it like, Damn,that shit won't happen to me
twice.
That's a fact.
Yeah.
And I'm, and, people that makemistakes and learn from them,
those are the ones that you'reseen not front for the grand.
They really got that shit andthat mm-hmm.
And that's the fucking fact.
but one thing I wanted to talkabout too, as soon as you, you
get outta jail, regardlessyou're, you know, if, if you're

(19:21):
a felon, if you do any type oftime, it's like the world sees
you as a criminal.
Especially the job market andstuff like that, or even certain
circles or whatever.
But it's like, yo, it's crazyman, cuz you don't know why that
person was in that position.
Of course, you know, you know,humans make mistakes, you know

(19:42):
what I'm saying?
Like, people always gonna dowhat they think is best for
them.
Of course you got your selfishpeople, but at the end of the
day, people gonna do what theyneed to do for them.
But then it's like, if you madethat mistake, it's like you're
never, It's like you feel likeyou're never gonna be forgiven
for it.
And you could though, but I feellike we should be a little bit
better with that man.

(20:03):
Like, when was the, when was thefirst time you got locked up?
It's crazy.
The first time I ever got lockedup, I was in books.
Baguettes, Y Rs books.
Yeah.
Shout off the books.
I remember I rad with him and hemade me be like, Oh shit.
I'm not as nice as I thoughtwas.
Someone's killing it.
Yeah.
But, uh, no.
He, he was, he was nice, bro.
I remember he was just, Ithought I had punchlines.

(20:26):
I thought I had punchlines.
He had.
Punch books, What was, what wasthe first time you got locked
up?
And I'm pretty sure when youdid, I was all emotional about
it.
Cause you know, I'm that friend,like you shouldn't be doing
that.

(20:47):
I tell you after this.
But boom.
So now me, I remember this likeit was yesterday, it was me, my
boyt, which is crazy cause Iheard he got mad.
Tom, he's probably doing madtime right now or hopefully home
by now.
But it was me, ve and books.
We used to always be togethercuz we in the lane together.
So now we in Time is Jeffersonand, and nigga just cutting

(21:07):
school and, and going to um, toTarget at Gateway when it first
opened up.
And we in there stealing fuckingCDs.
Fucking iPad.
No, I um, um, the little smallI, iPads.
Yeah.
iPods.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm s the little shit.
Right.
Taking mad since we used to gowith the Blade and be on little
school sits be just rapping,taking everything, taking our

(21:30):
alarms off and Wow.
So we got away with it.
Mad times.
And we used to sell mad shit inschool.
Long story short, we got caughtone day and the dude says, Yo,
look man, he said, I got lessthan 500 worth of.
We ain't going involved.
The police books only had likefour, five CDs.
So he like, I'm good.
He looked at me like mm-hmm yougood.
I you know me.

(21:50):
I was always, if I'm a go forit, I'm going for, for like a
thousand CDs nigga and threeiPad iPod.
What?
That nigga shook out my jacket,all them shit spell out.
That nigga bug looked at me likeI said yeah I was trying to come
up, I said this one for my lastrun, I was about to get right

(22:13):
with that one.
So ended up taking us boths.
My men, you know Boos could haveleft but he said nah, you taking
both of us and they took both ofus real shit.
Uh, shit was funny as shit.
How, what's up?
We in there some dude, we wentto the bookings.
We had motherfucking some, wewas young, there was some dude
like sitting under the, underthe chair under the bench and
shit.

(22:33):
And we like, we go sit down ontop of the bench.
Yo, I'm sitting there.
We like, nah, you laying downthough.
He looked like he was like totry to get up and get crazy.
Seen.
There was two of us together,like for real.
He seen there was two of usready to go.
How were you?
Uh, we was in, in 10th grade.
It had to be like about 16.
15.
16.
Yo you know I got stories.
Um, damn.

(22:53):
One time you gonna laugh at thisone, one time we playing at a
basketball game in Sunset ParkSunset Paul.
What time it is?
Anyway, I had yo, you knowwhat's Tony?
I had my Metro card.
I have my Metro card, but Ninoalways jumped.
It was a normal thing.
Nino jumped.
I paid my metro card.
No, but today I'm hype.
We won the, I think we won thatday.

(23:14):
I was just mm-hmm I jumped WhenNino the next thing you know get
now what that shit was.
Yo bro, yo.
And I remember they let me gocause I was 15 and they gave

(23:35):
Nino a ticket cuz he was 16.
But I just remember, yo, I neverbeen good with the police bro.
I just remember being like, likeare we gonna get in trouble?
Like tell my not straight withthe police ski street.

(23:57):
Yo, I be doing legal shit andstill be nervous.
Mm-hmm.
I be sure I can be walking, notdoing something that they pop
up.
I'll be like, Oh shit.
What I got?
I got sign on me I'm like thetotal opposite of that.
I do illegal.
Wow.
Shit.
And act like I was good.
Like I'm not supposed to do Ifeel like it is.

(24:18):
Get away with whatever youcould, you know?
You know what I wanted to talkabout too?
Um, like the, when you go tocourt, right?
Just from experiences from myfriends and went into my
research.
Like they give you as, they giveyou a shitty ass defense.
Right.
And sometimes I know someonedidn't do it, but it's like just
to, just to get you out the waythey tell, yo, just plead

(24:41):
guilty, die you be good labeled.
Listen to this, I just figuredthis out.
Do you know?
Mm-hmm.
that if you say you're notguilty and they have no choice
but to say you're not guilty,they gotta pay you.
I didn't know that.
So they, like you said, they'llmake you say yo plea guilty and
you get to go home right now.

(25:02):
So you in your head like, I'mgoing home.
I'm, yeah, let's go.
So now you go home, but youmissed out on that brand.
That's crazy.
Yo, I don't know.
Y'all need to look that shit up.
Word.
That's wow.
Yo, I ain't gonna, I lovelearning new shit, especially on
camera cuz my face is priceless,you know what I mean?
that's wild.
But yeah, you could quote me onthat one.
Look at that.
but you gotta think about it,right?

(25:22):
It goes with if it wasn't forsome of us that are out there
learning these programs that therich know and putting it out
there cause you know, socialmedia platforms and YouTube and
shit.
they don't want us to knoweverything bro.
I guarantee you there's likemaybe a hundred more of those
that we don't know about.
Right.
There's some like certain thingsthat you can qualify for that
they just make sure that youdon't get it.

(25:45):
That's crazy.
Yo bro, I'm gonna fuck your headup real quick.
There's some shit that I gotliterature to that they say that
if you see how everything saysyour last name before your first
name mm-hmm.
something big about that.
I got the literature, I'm gonnagive it to you.
Yeah.
another thing that the systemdoes right, is if I feel like it
dehumanizes people, right?
Like you're not a human being inthere.

(26:06):
You're treated almost like aanimal or like, I feel like
number, the, the whales in seaworld get treated better than
inmates, you know what I mean?
And they get treated fucked up.
They get ripped from theirfamilies.
All types of wild shit just thesame.
And it's like you could, yo youcould be an innocent,
hardworking dude, bro.
And if the cars fall fucked up,you could do a whole life in

(26:29):
jail just because somebodydidn't do what they were
supposed to.
Or they slacked on giving youthe proper defense that like
your proper chance.
Like I understand the peoplethat do mass murderers, mass,
you know, the wild s the wild.
Like I'm so, I mean like the,the wild, you know what it was?
Put them away, Put them, I'msorry man.

(26:51):
Put them and don't put'em withthe low level crimes cuz you
gonna, they're gonna provokesomeone that's not even there
for a wild crime.
But he gotta defend himself.
He can't be pussy, right?
He defend himself.
Now he gotta do extra time for anigga that's don't have nothing
to lose.
You in the lose lose situationbro.
It's crazy.
It's funny you say that cuz Isaid the same shit when I was
alright when I came home,remember I had to go back and

(27:14):
shit.
Mm-hmm.
for the uh, some shit at thehalfway house.
Cause they make you go throughhalfway houses and all this
crazy shit.
Yeah.
It's like you out not out.
They still got you by the, it'sbeen a whole and they still got
me by my balls.
I sweaty.
Mm-hmm.
But yeah, like, this shit iscrazy bro.
Like shit is nuts bro.
You know, as, as your brotherI've been seeing you half the

(27:36):
like, it's almost like, let himbe like, let him go.
Like he, he did his time.
let him get used to life again.
You don't gotta keep remindingthe, you don't gotta keep remind
that my brother, that he did sowell then he, you know what I
mean?
Come on.
But yeah.
And now I remember it is.
Alright, so now when I came camehome, they put me in the halfway
house and sent me back.
Now instead of putting me withniggas that's just doing three

(27:58):
months and then going back hometo the world, they put me with
nis.
That's about to do life.
bro.
I'm a nigga that's about to gohome, bro.
And they know it.
Everybody know it.
Did, Did they ever try toprovoke you to kind of knowing
that you were getting closer togoing.
The equity.
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Greet me So Snoop dog But anywayback to the show I, I had like a
couple, a couple, like I say,two weeks to go home and some

(29:01):
nigga that like begged to be mybunky tried me and I was about
to put him out.
And then after a while when heseen that I wasn't with nothing
and he said, Yo, you know what?
I respect your shit.
I, I said, Look bro, I'm not akid.
You ain't gonna talk to me nowyou gonna go back upstairs on
that bunk and not say a word tome, dog all the way until I
leave.
He tried to get cool with me,but look, shit, turn, turn

(29:23):
crazy, like shit.
Crazy son.
I ended up snitching on hispeople, but he was facing 35
years for a murder from 30 yearsago.
That's what I'm saying.
You should not be in the sameplace as that.
That'll make no sense.
You know, the truth is like,nobody likes to face it.
They, they make profit.
They don't give a fuck.
It's, I'm sorry man, peoplemight not like to hear this, but

(29:44):
this is what the truth, it'smodern day slavery, right?
It is when slavery ended, justbecause it, just because it's a
law now, it didn't mean thateveryone agreed with the law.
If example, if they may, ifthey, let's say they reinstated
slavery back now in thisgeneration we would not know.
We won't be fine with that,right?

(30:05):
Right.
But we would have to ab by thelaw.
I feel like it's the same thing.
Vice versa.
They had a bob.
That doesn't mean that itchanged their ways.
America loves finding loopholesto make themselves look good.
So, okay, we okay, Slavery isgone, but if they get caught
outside after a certain time, wegotta lock them up and then when

(30:26):
we lock them up, uh, we coulduse them for labor.
Incarcerated workers in the USproduce at least$11bn in goods
and services annually butreceive just pennies an hour in
wages for their prison jobs,according to a new report from
the American Civil LibertiesUnion(ACLU) And I feel like
that's what it is.
Now you, you get a lot of freelabor from jail and it is like,
how could you not see that thisis modern day now you got people

(30:49):
never on.
You got guilty people mixed withinnocent people, mixed with
people that have no business inthere and the system failed
them.
And you getting all this freelabor, not only you getting free
labor, you're getting money ontop of it.
You're not giving themeverything.
You're giving them shitty food.
You're keeping them in fucked upsituations.
how do you expect a man or awoman to come out that shit

(31:13):
ready to tackle the world readyto take care of business?
You just, you, you, you brokethem down in there like bro,
Right.
The shit that I was goingthrough was made to like either
make me or break me, bro.
I noticed that shit.
Yeah, it was, And I know forsure it wasn't gonna break you,
bro.
Yeah, I knew for sure wasn'tgonna break you bro.

(31:34):
Unbreakable said I'm one breaksomething.
Shot came back like a warrior.
Doctor said I was never going.
Now I'm playing baseball,Basketball Elite.
Mm-hmm.
But it gotta go through what yougo through to make.
That's great.
I remember when you got shot,man.

(31:55):
I was just so, like, I, I felt,I remember, I felt like I got
shot in the ribs.
I'm like, oh shit.
And soon as I knew I just wentover there.
But, uh, thank God you passedthat.
You, you were able to survivefor that man.
Cause me my life, I wouldn't be,I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be
good in that hair, bro.
You my brother man.
Thinking my like, fuck up.
Hundred percent Like what wasyour longest bid?

(32:18):
Was your longest time?
Actually, my head was almost,almost four years.
Four years.
Damn.
Yo.
I, yeah, cuz I remember, youknow, it was funny that we kept
hanging out before you went in,in case it was the last time he
would be like, Yo, this might bethe last time.
Let's chill to chill.
I would chill.
And the fucking, I I swear, bro.
Every time you hit me up, I, Imade myself available the one

(32:39):
time I couldn't that I said, youwent in and I, and I didn't see
you for a minute, bro.
I was like, ah, a lot.
That shit was crazy.
Like I know, man.
So what, what were like, theconditions like in that, in that
place?
for the most part it wasn't asdirty because another thing like
mm-hmm.
people were cleaning, You feelme?

(33:02):
Like, they don't got people toclean for us.
So if they, the inmates don'tclean, they shit up themselves,
it's over.
So now, yeah, the inmates arethe ones who, who cleanse the
shit up.
Like they get it clean.
You feel me?
So at the end of the day, aslong as we clean up, we gonna be
high type shit.
Okay.
Okay.
So it, it wasn't too dirty.
The food was horrible.
Cause we had no, it was prettymuch all we had to eat was

(33:23):
pretty much commissary food.
If you had money, if you, whenyou coming in the system, it
takes forever for the money togo to.
So now you sitting there, it'slike there's no way and hell you
going survive off the meals thatthey give you.
they call it slap, It's someshit that just looks like dog
food.
Literally.
Chunks of fucking mystery meat.

(33:44):
Like, for real.
That's crazy.
Like, you don't even, and, andyou hungry.
You gotta eat, Bro, I'm a nigga.
I don't like to ask for nothing.
I could be my knees in the dirt.
You ever seen that of.
Long story short, I was inthere, bro, and I'm like, damn,
I'm really gonna have to eatthis shit, bro.
Damn, bro.
And it literal took my peoplehad put money immediately in my
shit.

(34:04):
It took a whole month for themoney to clear.
So I ate that nasty shit for awhole month, bro.
I was like this.
That's crazy.
Um, I remember Maine would sendyou bread and like, when I, when
I send you bread, it was like,it was a wild process, but like,
I didn't, then they don't tellyou nothing.
Like, I'm like, Yo, at least letme, like did he get it?
Did it go through nothing?

(34:25):
Like it was like nothing.
That shit is, Yeah, man, ain'tjust, uh, again, I can never say
it enough.
I'm just glad you out, man.
And yeah.
You just, you trying your bestto, to be better than you ever
been, man.
And you know, I'm, I'm yourbrother, bro.
we gonna do it at the same time,bro.
For real.
That's a fact.

(34:46):
Whoever get there ain't no race.
We get there, we're gonna getthe other one in.
Nah.
Yeah, exactly, man.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's, it is never a race, man.
The good thing is, I mean, it isgreat.
Is, is great competitiveness.
Like, like example main stay maymain be focused on every part.
His health, his money, hisfamily.
Like he, I admire him, bro.

(35:06):
Like, he makes me want to stepup.
So it's, it becomes like, Athing, right?
I'm stepping up.
You stepping up.
You know, we all get each otherhype when the other one's low,
you know what I mean?
So it's, it's a great thing.
Yeah.
mental health, right?
It's like everything people gothrough in there is almost set
up to destroy you mentally,right?
Like, like what I was sayingabout, you know, keeping in the

(35:29):
labor, the way they do it withus is through the mind.
They make us, they make usalmost our slave to our, to
acknow, to the things that don'tserve us.
And it gets us involved in someshits that we shouldn't be in.
But getting aware and spreadingthe word.
So cuz awareness bro, like it ishard to keep doing stuff when
you already know.

(35:49):
But sometimes I ain't gonnafront.
I know shit and I keep doing itanyway.
But it has to be a point whereyou like, Nah, I can't be like
this.
But as far as the mental health,mental health in there, bro is
crazy.
what they say outta 64% people.
45, report mental healthconcerns, right?
Anxiety, ptsd.
all types of shit that gounnoticed that don't get treated

(36:11):
and they just think that theywild and then they get put in
the streets and you bump intothem on the train in the
sidewalk.
They should, they should havesomething to help them be
mentally good instead of leavingthem out to pretty much get them
either.
Somebody's gonna get, people aregetting hurt cuz of the way this
shit is someone that shouldn'tbe out.

(36:32):
It doesn't mean they have to belocked up, but they should get
some real mental assistance.
Not, not to cut you off, but Iwanna say this before I get, I,
I lose it, but mental healthshit is real out there cuz now
it's, it's this thing that theydo like it's a drug that they're
using in jail that is inediblefor you to come back.
Right.
I said the word wrong but I wasgonna fix it but I ain't double

(36:52):
it up.
just say it again.
Come back the same way it'sinedible for you to come back.
Same.
Oh, okay.
Inevitable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So now is it drug that they'reusing in there?
It's called k2.
Niggas called a deuce.
Oh.
It's literally coming in inpaper form now.
So now is spraying this shitdown and they smoking this shit

(37:14):
and believe it or not, this shitbe having bombing fluid.
All sorts of mystery likechemicals.
Dip.
Like, wasn't that that fake budwas that, that fake bud shit
that that was going around Itbuzz at one point Niggas is
getting the ask Who fake bud inthere?
That's just stop.
So now they getting the on, Imean the paperwork, I mean all

(37:35):
that shit, I don't wanna say toomuch, but yeah, it's getting
right off of paper.
Like this one sheet you can makefucking anywhere from eight to
tens.
That's what cause sellings areselling pieces like this, 200
for five,$10, 15.

(37:57):
Putting wires with the batteriesand getting hot.
It, it is called a but you seethese niggas off this shit, bro.
They instantly, a baby grown maninstantly turns into a baby.
like that's, wow.
See this strange.
Um, did you ever, did they everput you in, in the box?
Wait on, That's not how I wantedto set it all.

(38:19):
Uh, you know, when it comes toboxes, uh, You know, there's a
shy away from him, but this oneI know is a stupid sometimes I,
I see shit in my head.
I'm like, I wonder how it willgo.
But nah.
Did you ever, did David put youin the box?

(38:41):
They definitely put me in thebox and it's crazy cuz the
reason why they put me in thatshit is just shows to prove how
fucked up the system is.
So they put me in the boxbecause I, when I got there,
like it was this co that shewasn't a CO at the time, She
turned into a sergeant likemonths while I was there.
Boom.
Right.
So outta nowhere, like when shewas a regular co she used to

(39:03):
come to my cell.
Like, yo, what?
I used to have like the cornerstore in my career, in my cell
bro.
So they used to come and yo you,you got snacks?
Yeah.
Here I used to give it to themcause.
Why not?
Fuck it here, take it bad likeme.

(39:28):
A little smooth and something.
So they be with whatever bro.
Ain't gonna lie.
Not whatever, but you know theycoolest.
Nah, nah.
I, yeah.
Long story short, turned into asergeant and for some reason was
giving me, hell bro.
I did nothing to her.
I ain't behaved bad.
I ain't start with nobody, bro.
Just gave me hell.

(39:49):
So she was putting me in thecorona pod with everybody.
From the CEO to the niggasbringing you the food.
Got covid?
Not no, maybe no got covid.
Mind you, I come back negativeevery time they come and swap my
shit, I'm coming back negative.
She's like, I don't care.
Put on.
So now I'm like, oh hell no.
Y'all trying to kill me Likewhat's going on?

(40:10):
Damn.
You know what's crazy?
Me know me.
Hearing that.
I'm like, you probably gonnapush up, push up.
She probably wanted you to pushup harder, right?
No, listen, you know what Ithink it is bro?
Mm-hmm.
You remember my ex-girlfriendfrom sixth grade Tamika.
Damn.
I'm probably checking with thischicken.
Won them ring by my Greek ball.
Let up.
Yeah.

(40:30):
Don't to this late to this day.
I think that was Tamika and Ididn't say nothing to her.
She kept coming to get snacksand I'm like, hey boom, boom.
But I ain't never late, yo.
You Tamika like so I think itwas cause of that.
I swear to this day.
Damn.
I think it's of that was it, Wasit Tamika where she bought her
friend to meet me in 45 and shewas like, Nah, I don't like him.

(40:52):
Yeah, Tamika.
Whoa.
So I swear like you rememberthat shit, yo bro, she had to
haz wise little everything justlike Tamika bro.
So I'm like, that gotta be herbro.
Cause she's treating me like,how you not gonna act like you
know me?
How were the conditions in Covidthough?
Like so they put you in thatarea?
Survival would've fit, but Iwanna get back to why I was in

(41:14):
the shoe and how that shitwasn't it.
So now, now they kept trying tofeed me, me knowing I don't have
Covid and these dudes that'sgiving me the food got covid,
you gonna take the food.
I fucking know.
So now don't make no sense.
Slot is a little slot that theypass you the food through,
right?

(41:34):
Mm-hmm.
I blocked that shit off with twopaste and bags.
So it got real hard and theycouldn't open it or nothing.
They said, Oh, he don't want toeat or nothing.
He's crazy, Let's put him in theshoe.
I said, Nah, that's not a reasonto put somebody in the shoe,
bro.
That's crazy.
I swear to mommy, bro.
I said, Yo, got that ass.
I'm not coming nowhere.

(41:54):
I'm staying here until y'alltake me out this park and put me
in the normal park with niggasthat Don got.
Bro the fucking TURs came innigga and tried to rap me and
shit, we got real bro.
They put me in the shoot but assnaked and this shit had feces
all over the floor.
Piss everywhere, Feces on thewalls, everything bro.
No blinking on them but assnaked on a fucking coal ass

(42:15):
nigga.
Yeah, this shit get crazy bro.
Ain't gonna lie so damn bro, yo,I ain't no fun so that shit,
that shit hurt me right now.
Hearing that you bro, I ain'tgonna lie.
Talking about it is hurting meagain, but I listen so now the
only way I got out that shit wascuz of one of the CEOs that like
was cool with me and know thatthough this don't start with
nobody be chilling, everybodyfuck with him.
It's chilling why he in here?

(42:36):
So he like, yo you got, why youin the shoe bro?
I came back negative twice andthey still put me in that shit.
That's crazy.
So he got me out the shit in,into a part again.
Right on Mommy.
You know came and got me againand put me back in the covid
bar.
She, she said that that my, shemade it look like my, my um,
Bunkie had it and then theytested me again.
I came back negative.

(42:57):
They said nah we gotta take youanyway.
Personally came down and took meback in there bro, by herself.
Yeah.
Choking mash shit to me.
I can't wait for you to be on TVor something and be like, Yo,
you're that God, how you like menow?
Yo, yo ray.
I ain't gonna lie.
Some tears probably come outright now bro.
Yo.
No bullshit bro.
I'm sitting there looking outthe window, out the window or

(43:18):
the door, bro.
Yeah.
Yo bro was the nigga on theother side banging like, yo, I
need help.
I can't, can't breathe, can'tbreathe.
Somebody sent somebody, boom,the nigga went out right there.
They came and got him in theblack bag.
Took him about there and yougotta still be able to be san
after seeing somebody die infront of you bro.
That, that's not good for yourpsyche.
Man.
The worst part about it was theyput another nigga right in that

(43:41):
cell right after he died withouteven cleaning it up.
I bet you they had anotherinmate clean it where, you know
the inmate gonna be like I ain'ttrying to catch this shit.
Yeah, that's I, I'm telling youthis bro.
That's crazy.
Yo and, and the cos right?
Cause sometimes you tell me thecos are like,
saying?
they're crooks as well.
Right.
Type shit.
I don't care who come get meafter them.

(44:02):
Niggas is making 17 to 18 racksa phone.
You'll get an iPhone in there.
The new shit's in there for acouple bands.
That's crazy.
I had the little iPhone.
That's how I made that video ofthe food and all that shit.
Something.
But you know, its wild though.
I in there you not sayingnothing that they don't know.
They just don't care that ifthey find you with it, that just

(44:25):
gives you a more of a reason tostay in there.
While I was in there, the niggasfound guns.
It was gun threatening there.
It makes guns.
How the fuck you got a gun injail?
Like that's co, Everything isdone they call the green, I
don't know, we call them thegreen pants niggas.
Mm-hmm.
They getting everything that'sin there.
Whatever's in there is they it.

(44:46):
No bullshit bro.
You know that they caught over athousand phones probably, bro.
And nobody got in trouble for,It's like whatever, we know we
were looking for that gun whogot it.
So they don't care about thephones, it's just the just
grabbing the phone, probablygiving it back to the co.
That more and then they makesome more money.
Wow.
It's a cycle.
so I give, I'll tell you a quickstory.
I wanted to be a cop at onepoint, right?

(45:07):
I had, I had, I was havingrevelations, I had stopped
blazing.
I was like, Yo, I'm gonna be ona new path.
I'm gonna fight, I'm gonna fightjustice.
I mean, no, I'm gonna man.
I'm gonna fight for justice,right?
So I do research and cops islike, Yo, if you gonna come up
here and be a real cop, you'regonna be blackballed.
You're gonna get threats.

(45:27):
So like, people in thesesituations that could say
something, they can't, could beMartha Luther, could be Martin
Luther, could be my connect.
you're gonna be done financiallyor you're gonna be done done.
So you can't even blame nobodyfor saying something.
But like, yo, if they can't killeverybody, if enough people say
something, maybe we can makesome type of change, bro.
But nothing's gonna change if wedon't do nothing.

(45:51):
So I understand, okay, maybeit's gonna take a while to get
progress, but if we do nothing,we get nothing.
At least, at least we get achance to Cause how?
That's podcast guys.
Yeah, man.
How much more innocent people orpeople that just, that made
mistakes, why they gotta pay forit for the rest of their lives?
Why society can't understandthat?

(46:12):
Just because maybe you didn'tget caught with some.
And they did, doesn't mean thatyou get a chance.
And they don't, they, And Idon't give y'all, and I'm in
real talk, I don't give a fuckif this a guy or whatever person
kills a million people, keep himaway from people.
But I'm not gonna, I, I don'tthink he should be burned.
I don't think he should.

(46:32):
His head should be cut off.
The isolation is torture enoughcuz as human beings, we need to
socialize.
But if they wanna kill, you knowwhat I'm saying?
But I mean, there's people thatdidn't do that, have nine
violent crimes or drugpossessions on that, doing more
time than murderers and rapists.
And one thing that y'all don'tnotice is money talks in every

(46:52):
industry, you, you know, there'sa, I'm sorry, there's a rich
white boy that got away withsome shit that he did and
somebody black or Hispanic didthe same shit.
And he's home right now livinghis best life.
And this dude is fight for hislife in the system, for the same
crime.
And I think that's just crazyhow, that's crazy.

(47:13):
It matters.
It matters.
I'm sorry.
It matters if you're black andwhite.
Sure it matters if you're blackand white in the eyes of the
law.
Now, if you're Latino and yourlight skinned, you could
probably get away with certainpeople.
But if they hear that Martinezlast name, they look at you
different already.
And you gotta think about it,man.
The stop and frisk all this shitwas for us.

(47:35):
It wasn't, And, and it's crazycuz I, I forgot what study I
saw, but white people or, youknow what I'm saying?
Non-black and brown commit asmuch crimes, but we do the time.
Like, and, and so needs tochange.
It needs to change from thepolicing.
I don't, I'm not the type, Idon't feel like you need to
defund the police.
I think you need to rebrand,redo the police.

(47:56):
Yeah.
Actually guess Get'em, put it ina way that it's all about your
community.
Instead of giving these people agun and a badge, telling them,
you know, if they fit thedescription, this is what you
do.
Shoot first ask questions laston some gangster shit.
Like that's, that's, wow.
We supposed to respect you.
We supposed to, you supposed toshow up for you for help.

(48:17):
Yeah.
And then the crazy, oh, anotherthing is cops get away with
murder on some OJ shit.
Literally the same reason thatthey locking up people for their
crimes.
They should get swept under therug.
Mm-hmm Like that's you know whythough?
Cause they gotta make themselveslook good.
It looks bad on the policesystem.

(48:37):
If all these cops is gettinglocked up for doing the same
shit they supposed to be lockingus up for, you know what I'm
saying?
Like mm-hmm.
Oh man.
You can get so in depth withthat man.
But Yeah, but yo, it's crazy.
It's crazy cuz you said thatshit about like, your race
determines your outcome or theof the crime.
Like that's crazy.
Mm-hmm Cause when I was in thereI seen so much of that shit

(48:58):
that, believe it or not, I showit to you right now.
I wrote a whole movie about thisshit.
That's what I want you to aboutmy brother.
Yeah.
He's helping me on this episodeabout the system.
But yo talented.
I wanted him to be like a rapperyo.
Cuz he has the look, the look,the rhymes, the flow, the
personality.
you should be up there.

(49:18):
You and Jermaine should be upthere right now.
Like, I understand me.
I probably could have been the rand b dude.
I could have been Oh, like, uh,like Nelly if you, um, dang went

(49:47):
ly.
That's crazy.
Yo.
But what does, seeing shit likethat, people dying, people
fighting violence, fucking, evenfucking damn fucking fe on the
floor, bro.
That's what, what did toyourself?
No, no, no, no, no.
Hold on, hold on.
Not just, you said even fuckingnier.
I seen men.

(50:07):
Yeah.
Like not seeing it.
Cause of course now I'm notgonna see it.
You know what that does to youbro.
That shit just, it just bringsanother animal outta you.
So now that's great.
I was sitting there on somebodylet me be out the way.
I knew.
I ain't looking at time likethese.
Depending on your crime, youcould get out and if your crime
is brutal, you might get outfaster than nigga selling drugs.

(50:28):
Cause guess what?
The nigga that got 175 years isdoing killing, making everybody
breaking in the houses,robberies and shit like that.
Crazy shit.
Boom.
Right?
Mm-hmm.
that's what the nigga that gotseven life sentences is doing,
Kingpin selling drugs.
That's crazy.
Like where's the leverage tothis shit like it, I feel like

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it is, is wrong place, wrongtime, wrong system, wrong
system.
What I'm saying is not, thething is I'm like, get out
before Pablo Esal give me a chopnigga.
You el cpo.
That means that fucking MichaelMyers get out the next day type

(51:11):
shit.
But, but look at everything wejust named though.
Like we, everything we kind ofspoke about, the odds are
against.
From the moment the cop stopsyou the way until you're
released and even when you'reout, the odds are against you.
You got the system is out thereto make you go through this.
Then you got cos doing whateverthey really want cuz they have

(51:34):
some type of power that I feellike it's not disclosed enough.
then you got other people inthere that don't have the same
sentence.
Well, you know, the time thereis you and even the same mental
health as you, so you can comein mentally good and get
destroyed.
Being around, you know, you eversee the thing where they put the
fruit next to the bad fruit?
The good fruit turns into thebad fruit.

(51:55):
That's just what it is.
Mm-hmm.
you got gangs in there, so ifyou don't, if I don't even blame
you if you join a gang while youin there to stay safe.
I, I don't even yo respect toyou brother.
I'm surprised you, I would'vebeen like no gangs like crazy
part is that you actually get,people think that you don't get

(52:16):
respect if you don't get into agame, but you actually get to
meet everybody else and you getto be as neutral as you need to
be.
And you a bro be between gangs.
You just sitting there watchinglike, damn sucks to be done.
Oh, I was cool with him, me outthere, and then I don't know
how, We didn't really talk aboutthat, but you could get raped in
this and like, that's that's,bro.

(52:37):
It was crazy.
It was his Muslim brother, hisMuslim brother bro.
You know the Muslims that killyou.
Like, Oh, what?
They're smokey for that.
Would you believe?
Oh yeah, you don't play well.
Yo, would you believe that thisnigga was Muslim all the way?
And came in with titties and assdone.
Said Yos over for that Muslimshit.
I'm moving in with this nigga.
I ain't gonna lie.

(52:58):
I was frightening the street.
I'm a home.
Oh, the truth came out, bro.
When I say the Muslim brotherswas going kill his dude dog,
they was going kill us.
That's, so during my research Ifound out that yo, they, they
pocketing a lot of money notattending to, to, you know,
inmates that's sick or whatever.
So they pocket the money, don'ttreat them and just let them

(53:23):
pretty much get worse.
Like I feel like that shit iswild son, cuz like just, yo,
just lemme tell you something.
Just because you committed acrime bro, you shouldn't be
treating like no animal.
Like you shouldn't be left inpain, you shouldn't be left.
But that mentally unchecked,none of that, you know what I'm
saying?
But tell tell me about the, the,the time with your, with your
tooth.
All right.
So like, I had a crazy toothinfection.

(53:46):
That literally little by littlewas getting worse and worse and
worse and worse.
And I kept telling them andtried to get help and nobody
tended to me.
Like they literally called meright before I was gonna go home
and said, Yeah, we're gonna callyou.
Oh, you probably be home bythen.
Don't worry.
You check it outside.
You, yo, you know what, what Iheard once a woman say I'd

(54:07):
rather have, I'd rather givebirth to have a tooth.
Okay.
That was the worst thing ever.
So that shit, get in your brain,bro.
I, I just, I just been three.
Yo, We were supposed to do thisinterview before and I couldn't
cuz my tooth, I couldn't talkfor days.
Yo bro, would you believe I gotshot?
And I still think the tooth bigis the worst pain.
that's big.
That says a lot, man.
And, and they just left youthere, yo, like I'm sitting

(54:28):
there with no IBU prof, no pill,no nothing, bro.
To the point that a co Iremember this shit like it was
yesterday.
She came up to me and said, Ohmy God, I never seen you like
this was wrong.
Cause I didn't come out to.
I said to my side the wholetime, she's like, You ain't
gonna come out.
I used to always comfortable,you know, She's like, Yo, mm-hmm
I never seen you like this.

(54:49):
What happened?
I'm like, yo, my tooth issmoking me.
And I couldn't move my hand.
I'm like talking her like thiscause I'm putting the pressure.
It's crazy cause this is mytooth hurting, but when I put
pressure up here, it'll stop it.
So I'm like, just the whole timeshe's like, let me see.
Move your hand.
I move my hand bro.
My lip was like out here from atooth.

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That's crazy.
Think about that.
Right?
That's not even, Look, when Iwas in Essex, I was in the top
bunk and I fell off and landedon my hand like this.
My shit went back for like asecond.
Oh.
I came right back quick.
Boom, my shit went back.
They didn't check me nothing.
I had to cut my shirt, wrap myshit up, myself.
Self heal my shit.

(55:30):
Boom.
My knee, I can't walk for likea, I stayed like two, three
months bro.
To the point, you know I'd beplaying ball and shit in ES
County.
They had like a basketball courtin the pod.
So like that's what I spent allmy time.
It's like, yo months I couldn'tplay.
You know what's crazy?
Think about it, right?
Like you had, you had a toothegg, you had a, what if, you

(55:51):
know there's somebody in therewith some internal shit like,
you know, some cancer, diabetes,you know, some wow shit and they
just getting worse in there.
Which is probably how somepeople die in jail.
Just know some not, you know?
Oh, they got not being attendedto it got the, goes back to the
guy in the covid shit.
How they gotta whole covid part,but don't really got doctors in

(56:12):
there checking up on them ormaking sure that the niggas
don't die.
So it's crazy, like it's reallysurvival to fit is you gotta
protect yourself and fityourself against.
It's like you, you, you shouldfeel like parking there, bro.
Is you against the world?
Like dead ass.
That's how I would feel likethat should be wild, man
remember how you said Oh, uh,how was it in there?

(56:33):
During the pandemic?
Mm-hmm.
This shit was like, I, You eversee a crowd of people somewhere?
Somebody just outta nowhere,just throws money in the air and
then like it happens.
There's people pushing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like that in there for thattype of shit.
Like, it's like during apandemic you don't have shit,
you can't order food.

(56:54):
So now the people that got intheir cri and they, they sell
like me, they going try,remember this like it was
yesterday.
Cause I was like, I, I was oneof them people that I always
would, would be like, I have alot of shit in myself and if you
come over to me bro and lower,yes.
I, I don't call it loweringyourself, it's just needing to
help and seeking.
You feel me?
So now your family can't sendyou money or day you can't use

(57:18):
it because there's nothing youcould do to get food.
The commissary was clipped.
You usually got shit.
Everything was clipped.
So now you ordering food fromother people that got
commissary.
Like, yo bro, gimme one bag ofchips.
I'm gonna give you three bags.
They gonna be like, Nah, I wantfive back.
You got it?
Yo bro, I seen a nigga pay ahundred dollars cash out for a
bag of chips.

(57:38):
That's crazy.
I seen, I've seen another niggapay more than that for a fucking
a honey bun.
Cause they didn't never had itin that jail.
Yeah, man, if you hungry bro,you gonna lower your standards
to eat.
Man.
They just like, if you was inthe wild.
It's crazy.
The the, it's like a jungleSometime it makes me more how
they keep them going under.
you said you got into a fight I,like it actually was over

(58:00):
somebody asking me for somethingand I was giving it, giving it,
and then I came down to the lastone and the nigga was like, You
gonna gimme that Now in my headI'm thinking the nigga thought I
was pusy and that's why I'mgiving it to him.
So I was like, nah, you notgetting this bro like happened.
What's up doing long story youshort, The nigga wanted to go
fight in the room cause he wasbigger than me of course.

(58:20):
So I'm like, we could fightright here.
You expecting to go back and seeme later?
No, they ain't gonna be able tobe in the same part if we fight.
I'm gonna see you every day andwanna fight you again.
He's like, Go in the room, go inthe room.
I'm like, Whatever dog.
You don't wanna fight here youpussy front of everybody.
He ain't doing nothing.
Mm-hmm So now it goes in theroom the nigga comes behind me
and I been down to grab like a,a bowl or something from under

(58:42):
my bed.
I turned around and sun.
That's a jersey thing.
I never knew Turn your neck.
Oh is a sneaky thing.
Sneaky thing that that's, Theysaid it too.
They admitted it to me.
So I turned around, boom andsaid, snuck me, cracked me right
in my lip.
I said, oh, I grabbed a bow andbroke that shit in two pieces.
I said, You know what, fuck it.
I threw this shit as a stoolright there.

(59:04):
I jumped off the stool somekarate.
And this crazy bro, mind you sonwas a big nigga, but the biggest
blood nigga was right next doorto me and was my man.
And he kept telling him, yo songiving you shit.
Not cuz he pussy.
It's just cause he feel bad foryou bro.
saying that cost 60 cents and hegot a million of them.

(59:24):
How you gonna feel as a man tonot give it to that man?
That nigga we hungry niggasneeded.
You feel me?
So he literally, That's crazy.
So that, that made you pussy tohim for, for that.
Yes.
He thought I was giving make nofucking my back cuz he was
popping on the niggas.
Now I know I'm giving it to you.
Cause I know you ain't got no.
They said I uncle filled themout the shit.
I got people that vouched forher.

(59:46):
They uncle?
Yeah.
They said, nigga, I took thenigga out to cell like this,
Boom and say Yo my nigga youcome back in this cell, I'm
gonna kill you The look he gaveme was like, nah, I don't want
nothing to do with this dude.
kept like, how many fight?
Well you said they didn't whatThey didn't take us out to pod
after that.

(01:00:06):
Cause the co that seen them comein, seen them come out.
It was not like, oh riot afterthat they said, Oh they're good,
they're good now.
So now the whole time he keepstrying to come back to me, just
apologizing shit.
And I'm like, yo, dope.
There's no need to talk.
Just go your way.
I go my way.
There's no need to talk.
Mm-hmm And to the end fact tothe point that the superior
blood said, Yo, come on.

(01:00:26):
You know, just, he just wannaapologize bro.
Set the apology and that's it.
How many fights did you getwhile you was in there?
How many fights you got?
Well, Essett County, that was myonly one that I needed to get
into.
Everybody in there knew about itafter that and they ain't never
tried me.
In Essex in fucking Oklahoma.
I got, no, in Essex.
I got into another one with,with a co pushed the shit out.

(01:00:47):
This nigga, he didn't expectthat shit.
And soon as he moved up on meHook and the co that's cool with
me, grabbed my arm like, theywould've you for that.
Thank God I was about to hook itup on the nigga, like, sound
crazy, but yeah, fuck all that.
I just wanted to get that too.
that's a good story.
It's crazy cuz I think of when Itold Jermaine, Jermaine can't
wait to hear it cuz he's like,Yo, I can't wait to hear his

(01:01:09):
stories, man.
You don't even even got themstories.
I was like, word.
So when, when you bought thatout, like that's a story.
I can't deny a story.
Yo did they offer you any typeof education in it?
But during the pandemic theyclipped all that shit I Before
that shit they was, they wasgiving you access to shit.
So a lot of people would actlike they could go, go in there
and they like, no, you could goin there and actually learn
shit.
Like learn skills.
Like I know people that gotwelding licenses and shit like

(01:01:31):
to this day he's about, Oh shit.
Yeah.
Like you learn a lot.
Cause I'm think.
I'm thinking they cut that shitoff completely.
But you said after the pandemicthey cut it off?
Yeah, like during that shit,they definitely clipped it, but
now they probably gonna open itback up soon.
It should start opening up andshit.
Okay.
So they do Got it.
But like, is there like acertain requirement or anybody

(01:01:52):
can just do it?
I mean, you Well obviously gottahave enough time to be there.
No, no.
Yeah.
You're not gonna let you, like,you got like half amount of time
to finish it and you're notgonna be able to graduate it and
finish it completely.
They won't let you do it causeit's gonna be a waste of time
for you.
Yeah, but even with that, right,Let's say they gave everybody

(01:02:12):
labor skills, but they didn'tgive them they didn't work on
they mental, they gonna putthose skills to the side and go
back to what they used to, Youknow what I'm saying?
It has to be a combination of,okay, give them something that
they can do when they get outand then give them something
here that can keep them sane.
Cause I feel like, you know,doing the same thing and
expecting different results,results is insanity.

(01:02:35):
And you in jail doing the sameshit every day, the same thing.
And then you have to worry everyday.
That shit has gotta be like,like, alright, you commit the
crime, you do the time, but it'snot like you're able to come
back to society and be good and,and be part of it.
Right.
And you think about it, right.
Why they label you?

(01:02:56):
Because if you're labeled, youcan't vote now.
So now the majority of us can'tvote.
They always gonna have who theywant in office.
The advantage.
Yeah.
So who they want, they can getit because they made it even
harder for us to even have avoice and think about it, right?
All the people that have spokenup, if you speak up, you can

(01:03:16):
never live your life the same.
You can never take a plane, youcan never drive a car.
You can never be safe with yourfamily.
If you are making some type of,like, if I have a movement of a
billion people listening to me,what I'm saying, nigga, my, you
would never hear Raymundo again.
They would make me disappear, Ithink.
Like, like they be like, Who?
I ain't gonna lie.
That's how I gotta tell you.
This might be that episode.

(01:03:39):
Want it to me.
I could go in depth with thisshit, bro.
Maybe cuz of that K2 situation.
That shit might be it, but I'mtelling you.
Yeah, but this could be it, bro.
I'm telling you, I feel like,they got hands in everything.
Everything is set up for thepower, the shift in power, never
to be in jeopardy.
Yeah.
Rest in peace to add extra betlike what do you experience when

(01:04:02):
you trying to get a job?
Like what type of things you gothrough?
definitely go through like,people trying to test, test you
and see how much you could take.
Just so, especially if they findout that she just came outta
jail, they tried to see howmuch, how much pressure you
could like absorb before youactually just snap.
And then when you, I noticesomething about people, like

(01:04:23):
when they know that you've beenthrough certain shit or certain
adversity in life, they try totest you to see how much you let
'em get away with.
And then as soon as you show'em,they, they, they, they push.
That's when you overreactingyour chill bro.
You battling.
I noticed that.
And because of, because of yourbackground, they get backed up
more than you.
Exactly.

(01:04:43):
So now, now they'll test you inevery kind of way and then you
lose your shit and give'em whatthey asking for.
It's like, damn nigga alwaysbattling.
So that's why I like, know whatI mean?
And it's always like that.
It's always been like that.
So now it's like, oh damn.
Cause I've been through whatI've been through.
I show emotion and it'sdifferent from your emotion.
Cause we might not show it thesame, but if I get pinch and it

(01:05:03):
hurt and I pinch you and ithurt, we both won't hurt.
Exactly.
You feel me?
It's just, you might not showit.
I might eat it or you might cryand I might look at it like you
touch me.
Yeah.
The, yeah.
Yeah.
The difference is how you reactto it.
Like react to it.
It's crazy.
Like how, how long it took youto adjust though, when you was
out?
I mean I know they still got youa little bit, but like once you

(01:05:24):
got like right, you was in theredealing with that.
Not you're out, you're in,you're in the public.
How did you, did, did you feelanxiety?
Did you feel like a little likeout of place?
Honestly, still going throughthat bro.
To be real, I'm still goingthrough it.
Just up the she of like, I don'tknow.
Like some people could, somepeople are blessed to go in and
come out with no scratches andbruises like, cuz you might not
go through nothing inside, butthen you lose so much while you

(01:05:47):
in.
That you be like, Damn bro, Icame back out and look now I
really gotta adjust to notknowing how to deal with certain
people or not dealing withcertain people.
But I'll tell you this though,as your, as your brother I've,
I've seen you grow up, you know,from 11 to now and outta all the
times.
This is the first time I'vereally like seen you show like

(01:06:10):
a, a ma, like a different kindof maturity.
Like you call me in instanceswhere I feel like, damn, I
would've snuffed them or Iwould've, I would've been
tempted to go to the front doorand you controlled yourself.
So I want you to always, that'swhy I always try to bring up to
you the great shit about you.
Of course I, I'm your brother.

(01:06:30):
I'm gonna let you know the realshit.
But I always try to make sure tohighlight yo son.
Yeah, you wanna pop off, but youdidn't.
You should have popped off, butyou didn't.
And you know what?
You still out here trying to getto your best life.
You didn't let that stop you orbring you back, bro.
So you gotta give yourself a paton the back every time you do
this.
It's not easy, bro.
Like, they want you back.

(01:06:51):
You know they want you back.
Yeah, they definitely do.
But you could pack this up onthe back, but it still doesn't
take away from that one thought.
That leaves it like, damn, if Iwould've did what I would've had
to do or did what I usuallywould've did, would I even have
got in trouble though?
Yo, My fault.

(01:07:11):
They wanted, they want you back.
Like, did he wanted J-Lo back inthe league?
like, yo, he did.
I need a girl like eight talkingabout the J-lo, like Nah it's
true.
Like yeah, you could spend yourtime thinking of what coulda
should have if I didn't.
But the fact is, you out now.
regardless if you don't thinkyou gotta be, If you don't think

(01:07:35):
there's opportunity, you are theopportunity.
You understand what I'm saying?
Like I always make sure, Ialways let you know that like,
whatever odds are against you,like God didn't put you here to,
to, to back down from them.
I'm saying he knows you have tostrength to whatever, make your
mistakes and be able to putyourself in a position where you
never have to.

(01:07:56):
They'll just be stories, notyour reality.
Like your talented bro, you havea gift.
The same gift I have to speak onthis microphone.
You could do it.
I'm guaranteed 20 more timeswhen when I, Yeah, we both
started rapping at the sametime.
His first verse was so fire tothis day.
You could still, you could putthat right now.

(01:08:16):
And he's rocket.
you know what I'm saying?
His class got more hours in thisshit than Jimmy Jazz, you know,
You know, I just hope that, noteven hope, I just, I can't wait
for the day to see you.
You shine the way you supposedto, you shine right now, but
when you in your true lightwhere, you know what I'm saying,

(01:08:36):
We having this conversation inperson and, and uh, you know
what I'm saying?
And the mother fucking, I don'tknow, in Jamaica, cuz we gotta
like that.
Um, I hope, you know what I'msaying?
Yo, you got movies in play.
There's so many things you cando.
You don't need the job market.
you're not a business man.
You're a business man.
All you gotta do is handle yourbusiness.

(01:08:59):
Damn.
So that leads me to my nextquestion, cuz now we're gonna
be, you gonna be accountable inthe Ramo show.
with everything that you wentthrough, everything that you're
going through, everything youin.
And when you're not I'm gonnajust not let nothing stop me.
Like, at the end of the day,like as you can see, I went to
do the construction shit.
They dubbed me right before theunion three times.

(01:09:20):
That don't mean I'm not gonna goto full time.
You feel me?
Like I'm on it.
Mm-hmm.
I'm gonna keep going and I'mgonna make sure that there's
nothing in my way that I couldsay it defeat me.
You know, Like I'm gonna make itmild, powerful.
Mm-hmm.
to not never let defeat me, cuzI've been in the most craziest
predicaments with my knees inthe dirt and back against the

(01:09:43):
wall and got out of it.
Scott's free.
So its like, And you still hereso you figured it out and to
figure it out.
Just being a shock on I startedI a d Nah, but It's like, even

(01:10:11):
with me, people see me a certainway and I see certain way and I,
I see you like, yo, you are astar and it's.
Eventually people gonna look upto you, bro.
And it's just, you know, justlike me when we stop playing is
a rap man.
Cuz we on it, bro.
You know, I'm talking aboutwhen, when we on it to the point
that like, yo, you need to takea break.

(01:10:32):
That type of shit.
Like, yo, you need yo to get youand be like, wild out you what?
I mean?
Like a what?
Nah, but um, a what?
A break.
Who's that?
I just wanted to do that becauseI have the utmost faith in you
and you.
I mean, don't get me wrong, thisis not the last time he's gonna
be on the show.
I got him already planned.

(01:10:52):
There's another show I got inthe works with me, him and um,
Jay Pram.
So you know, the boys are backin town's gonna, so I'm gonna
have my boys together talk aboutsome real shit.
But, cause it takes time, right?
Even the bamboo treat fiveyears, uh, they say even takes
10 years to be successful.
So you, not on a time limit, butI can't wait to have you on that

(01:11:14):
episode.
So now you can be the example.
You know what I'm, I'm sayingright now, you in the mix, but I
wanted to showcase that you'rein the mix, but I wanna show you
when you put your mind to it,and you're gonna help so many
people from this episode to thatone.
Like, this is like planting theseed for you, for the show, for
your future show that you needto have.

(01:11:34):
Cause you know, you know I helpyou with anything bro.
But, um, if the people wanted tofind Nino, cuz they like, yo, I
love his voice.
I love his energy, I love hisstory.
Where could they go?
Oh, my Instagram is y rs l guapowhich is y r s e l g w o p p o
11 2 0 7.
That's my for live My Facebookis Nino Ventura.

(01:12:00):
And just look out for me man.
I'm working on these movies andthey definitely, they definitely
gonna come out.
That's what I got to say.
They gonna come out, they gonnado they thing, the one that he
read, the one that the idea hetold me about, once he puts that
shit into play, and again,talented do, that's only a, a
small percentage of what he gotin store for y'all.
So yeah, get your receiptsready.

(01:12:21):
You hit the one I told you aboutis super fire.
But wait till you, you evenactually in the other ones.
Hey, it'll be an honor and I'llmake sure I promote that shit
here.
You can come on the show andpromote it once this is picked
up.
That's all my God that we gottado that one in person.
We gotta get fucked up and talkabout, Yo son, you got picked
up.

(01:12:44):
that's a great ending to theepisode.
Bad, but I just like, I think Isaid enough as far as like, what
I feel like you can accomplish.
I want to thank you for being onthe Raymundo Show.
It's great to have my fuckingbrother from another Mandalay
named Ramona.
Yo, shout out to Julie Joji, thewhole family.

(01:13:05):
Love.
And go love.
Shout out to all the kids.
Love all the kids, man.
Love y'all.
Oh, but before we go, I want toend it on the funny story.
one day, Yo, shout off the kinkyOne.
Time Kinky and Nino decided togo and got a funny story and

(01:13:34):
says, so.
We go, we, we wanna be bad thatday we're like, Yo, you know
what?
Let's go to Food Bizarre andlet's just put some stuff, In
our in our stuff, right?

(01:13:55):
So, yo, we putting stuff in ourpockets.
Yo, we thinking, yo, we about togo have a, we could snack and
chill.
Not worry.
Maybe blaze a little bit.
Mm-hmm.
Yo, when we get to the door,they stop.
Kinky.
Right?
Fucked up.
Cause as soon as they stoppedthem and they left us alone, we
booked it.

(01:14:15):
like this.
Yo, we booked it behind the carsand you know, comes out.
They, you know, Kiki comes out,he goes, um, they locked me up.
They just made me take a picturewith the hot dog.
So now every time you to thisday, that will kick with the
gzz.
He's like, Yo, you think youthink they were?

(01:14:37):
Or Yo, I'm dead.
I'm dead, yo man.
I didn't even get to tell himabout the time I sold coke for a
week, but that, that'd beanother story Yo.

(01:15:00):
But yo, send love to your, your,your daughter.
I know you gotta go get her.
Yeah, I gotta go school.
And, uh, I hit chill later totalk about the success of this
episode.
All love you, my brother.
Always a success.
Always a pleasure.
Love you to my brother.
Love it to yourself for life.
You already know.
Docs hard.

(01:15:20):
So now this is the part of theepisode where.
I make everything.
Pretty much makes sense.
When I first got inspired to dothe episode.
I saw that Netflix documentarywith, Kalief Browder.
And.
Watching that shit really hurtme cause he was just a six year
old boy.
You know, wrong place at thewrong time.

(01:15:41):
And the system failed them.
And fucked up his mindset.
Where, you know, he ended uptaking the, his life cause he
rather had the Nat and go backto jail cause experience, his
experience was that bad.
And when you hear the thingsthat they go through, and then.
Having a friend.
That can.
Almost back up those stories.
I just feel like it makes itmore real.

(01:16:03):
And.
I don't know.
When it's going to change, or ifit's ever going to change.
But there's something that wegotta be able to do.
Or be aware That can.
Help, uh, you know, our friendsor family members having trouble
with the law.
Or yourself?
There is a way.
For you to have a life foryourself?
I You know, they put it in yourhead that there isn't, but.

(01:16:25):
there's companies.
That hire felons.
you could look it up.
Um, hotels.
restaurants.
Of course construction.
I feel like.
So small consequences for.
For the, you know, for the crimeyou did, like your jobs are
limited as far as getting one ofthose.
Fancy ones.
I mean, I'm pretty sure there'ssome that moved through the

(01:16:46):
ranks.
But I'm sure they make ittougher for you.
So I feel like.
You know, the best thing you cando is.
You know, going into businessfor yourself, they can't stop
you from doing that.
If you could sell, you couldtalk to people.
you can almost take what you didto get you.
In this situation in the firstplace and flip it to a positive.
there's a wall street, dude,man.
I'm sorry.
I don't know his name, but I sawa video by him the other day.

(01:17:08):
He just use his street knowledgeand applied The stocks.
And you think about it, right?
Like.
And the guy from impact every,he said that he hires.
Uh, people that have been in abusiness cause they know how to
hustle.
And like, I feel like I will dothe same thing about a business.
You know, I will give anopportunity.
Because I know there ain't toomany companies that will.
I would also like to be involvedin something that.

(01:17:30):
you know, helps people to havebeen incarcerated.
get their mom back.
Be able to find the humanity andthe love for themselves.
And be able to learn how toadapt to life.
Knowing that they went throughwhat they went through.
You know, regardless if you wentthrough trauma in jail or
outside of that.
It's just still fucks you up.
Had different examples of thatsince I've, uh, started to show.

(01:17:52):
but again, there are solutions,man.
Like.
There's.
And you got up.
A lot, us.
You know, success is copyingeach other sometime.
And if there's someone that dida worse crime than you, or even
a less worse crime than you and.
They found the way.
I just want you to notice apath.
and it's not going to be easy,man.
It fuck.
It should have, even if youdidn't get locked up, it still

(01:18:13):
was going to be tough becauseyou would have had to deal with
something else.
But you got to dig deep, man.
You got to.
Look past what they expect youto be and what they expect you
to do.
Telling you, man.
Sales is in everything.
And you can't get a job.
You can start selling, build theteam.
Learn how to market.
You're never going to go brokeif you know how to sell man.

(01:18:35):
And that's the fucking fact,look that shit up in every book
and every video.
Because everything in life is asale.
It's crazy.
You even sold yourself.
The idea that you can't do itbecause you've been locked up
like.
Somebody sold you that, thatdumb ass idea you got what it
takes, man.
Don't let them where you yo, youknow, what's crazy, right.
Somebody that's a criminal,someone that's locked up will

(01:18:56):
be.
Would be considered.
Right.
A gangster thug man, but thereal thugs is the one them suits
that control.
Everything.
And the biggest crime they'veever done.
Was to make.
Maybe not even a person makepeople feel like.
they less than what they reallyAnd they have to be this way.
You know, is, is it's killed.

(01:19:17):
They'll be killed.
Like.
I feel like that shit is likethat on purpose.
When JZ say.
Why you think they call aproject or project because it's
a project.
It hit me at that age, but whenI got older, when it was like,
wow, like, Like.
Think about it, they.
They got the psychology down tothe science.
So they know they put you inthis situation, you're going to

(01:19:38):
react a certain way.
While they make an all a profitfrom you fucking And you think,
and you, the thug cause you'llslap them, but what's crazy is
that they can wipe your wholefamily history out.
You No one will ever know yourlast name or so.
Awesome.
Game of Thrones shit.
Like the malaria.
Like, yeah, it's fucked up.
Yeah.
That's, that's just what it is,man.

(01:19:59):
Like.
And I don't see no revolutionhappening.
I don't see no revolts.
So we just got to do a weekendLu.
In the space that we got.
In the space that you got.
And don't let them, you knowwhat I'm saying?
Like, I feel like we can't letthem.
When, as far as like, When youdo some.
Some, some wild shit.
Like, no, that, that's what theyexpected from They put you in a

(01:20:20):
situation to do they know whatyou going to do.
So do the opposite.
So you could be out It was outhere, man.
Opportunity.
People.
Experiences which you here for,man, you don't want to
experience that shit up inthere, man.
So.
I just hope.
Eventually it gets Yeah, it wascrazy.
No way's prison system is sogood.

(01:20:43):
That I'm my, while out, if I goover there.
I'll be out the mall, man.
And while I'm there, I couldjail.
Now, but see that's the wrongway to think about it, but no
way got like.
Some of the best prison systemsin the world.
a lot of the inmates don't goback.
The majority of them don't goback.
Because they treat them likepeople, they give them a
kitchen, they give them space.

(01:21:05):
Make sure they learn a newscale.
And there was a story about thisguy that fits in years for
murder.
Uh, got out and.
Uh, became a chef, got a show.
Wrote a book.
and now he's in school for likephysics or some shit.
A look it out like.
They're not destroying mines inspirit over there.
They trying to build you backup.

(01:21:25):
So you could be part of thesociety which we should do I
just don't get Yeah, man, like Isaid, the whole point of this
episode, just to put someawareness on, on what's going
on, whether, you know, a don'tknow.
And give hope to those that havebeen in that situation, or you
might know somebody that's inthat situation.
And you can understand them.

(01:21:45):
A little bit more, even thestand.
You don't Uh, situation, unlessyou've gone through it.
Whether you experienced it or apart of someone else's
experience.
And it's not, we don't alwayshave to be so quick to judge.
regardless what gram, they stillhuman and they need.
They need love, man.
Everything here is about.
Politics and money.

(01:22:05):
But yeah, let's get into thatfinal say and The land, the

(01:23:08):
opportunity, but limitedchances.
So you find something that worksfor you.
Please take advantage.
The system is usually out oforder, Like the shake machine in
McDonald's.
The higher-ups don't leave asmooth path for us to follow.
There's no interest unlessthere's interest involved,
they're aware of the issues, butdon't care Is ever resolved.

(01:23:31):
Like an exterminator, they setthe traps because they're
experts in psychology.
Their philosophy is like anaudition.
You get judged on how you actand react.
In unfair circumstances..
Rehabilitation in the nation isa myth it's called correctional
facilities, but all they do isweaken your ability to see the
bright side of things.

(01:23:51):
They sold shady From a babyyou're born with a number.
Then, if you make a mistake.
You get another one added thattakes this place in may 28.
You become timeless like Barrybonds, home run records.
And for the record, do yourresearch.
You see how they been reckless.
They played checkers, knowingevery move you could potentially
make.
And they see how long it takesbefore you eventually break.

(01:24:13):
If you want to rise above it,pay attention to those who were
locked up and found the way.
To make a life for themselves.
Just in case you thought it wasthe same for everybody else.
A cold guy locked up and nowhe's about to open up a No Redis
some time.
And now he's interviewinglegends by working with Tyson
excepted Tyson.
He lives in entice in lifebecause he never gave up the

(01:24:35):
fight, not the one in the ring,but the one, you can see it as
final from within.
You got to dig deep.
They don't want you to win.
You like the gangs in theireyes, but if you analyze.
You'll see that not all theexits are blocked.
And you won't get blocked.
So why not give it a shot?
Y'all want to thank God forjoining me on this episode.
I want to thank my brother NinoV.

(01:24:58):
For sharing his story.
And bringing that very energy.
And bring a, his truth aboutwhat goes on in the, in the
system prison system.
I hope this episode doessomething Or make you think
Whatever it is.
I wish out of best in whateveryou do.
But be safe out there till nexttime.
Peace.
Love Mundo.

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