Word is Bond

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is your host.
Raimundo.
Welcome to my show.
Well, we talk some real shit.
I have some laughs relate.
And have some fun in theprocess, but this is episode 43.
Word is bond.
And this episode is morefighting.
You think just not based on theslang.
But before we get into that.

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Let's go let's go.
And the quote of the day comesfrom Betty.
ADI.
And we understood the power ofour thoughts.
We will guard them more closely.
If we understood the awesomepower of our words.
We will prefer silence to almostanything negative.

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And our thoughts and words, wecreate our own weaknesses.
And our own strengths.
Our limitations enjoys.
Begin in our hearts.
We can always replace negativewith positive.
Yo, and I feel like that justsummed up the whole episode.
I'm at the, shut it down.
Yo, thank you for joining.

(01:45):
Nah, but that was a dope quote.
Cause it's like, In the processof writing the episode.
You know, learning all thethings I learned.
I was like amazed.
how powerful your words reallyare.
And you know, when I reallythink about all the
conversations I have and how Ivent and everything.
Is waffle, like our poly havebeen evolve this fast as I could
have.

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but as good to be aware of,notice these things, like really
identify that the things you saywhen you're doing something
good.
Uh, when you're in trouble.
and one.
One thing we don't realize, man,is that we really have this
subconscious mind that.
It's like automatic as anautomatic response.
Like.
Like email and shit.
You know, sometimes.
You don't think just react andyou react was based in your

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subconscious.
So would you do comes fromthere?
So you gotta make sure you.
You fill it with positive words,positive thoughts.
So when.
When she hit the fan, if averseto And there's different things
you could do, man.
And one thing, people, probablya lot of people don't believe in
is like some type of hypnosis oreven just recording your own
self.
Affirmations and putting themwhile you half asleep.
It's all for your brain to thinkand receive all these students

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that are subconscious cause.
Everything is being collectedfrom watching TV, radio, all
that shit.
Your words are like a productof.
The things that your brain takesin and then, you know, pause,
but what you let out.
You know, it was up And you gotto be aware that if you say some
fucked up shit fucked up, shitmight happen.
Even if you say it aboutsomebody else, even if you judge

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somebody else's words.
R.
Extremely powerful.
Is why.
You know what I'm saying?
We got the Bible, we gotspeakers.
We got.
Uh, rappers, singers.
You know, everybody.
Whereas affects everyonedifferently.
Depending The Tom, when theylife they're in.
can help you get throughsomething can help you feel
stronger.

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if you chose poorly.
You could bring your whole shitdown.
Like.
I mean, how can you reallypicture yourself being great?
All you see is.
I always mess up.
I don't know how to get out ofthis situation.
My past.
I always did this shit in mypast.
Shit like that, man, you gottafucking.
Got to understand, The words,your thoughts then.
Your reality changes.

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It's not going to be yourreality change.
And then your thoughts Andwhereas come after, nah, You
can't skip that process But,before we get into the episode,
And there was a, I heard aboutplants.
Like if you talk to them or eventrees.
You know, it's like, it's goodfor them.
Good words, help them grow.
But I saw something on YouTubeabout them doing it with rice

(04:13):
cups.
Right.
So they have one rice cup.
Which they told positive thingstoo.
They had another rice cup thatthey ignored and they had a rice
cup.
That they said, fuck thoseShitzu.
Now, I don't want to do thisbecause I could have pictured
myself telling rice you'regreat.
Or it's on the rise.
Fuck you.
I can't stand the heat though.

(04:35):
Nah, but after three days, therice that they told something
positive too.
Like you could have cooked thatright there.
the one they ignored was fuckedup, but the one they spoke bad
to was nasty.
It's like, you know, when youfucked up, when you didn't
realize you had left.
Uh, rice in that pot, in thatpot, you thought it was clean,
but it really, you left the ricein Yeah.

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You know what I mean But just toshow you the Powerwall words,
man, like.
You're a product of yourthoughts and words, like really
think about the shit you say theshit you think about the shit
you focus on.
And.
Even the hydro event, continuingevent, not doing nothing.
It's just.
Repeating the cycle.
But yeah, I already know, man,let's get into the episode.
Word is bond.

perf (05:19):
So on this episode, word is born.
Uh, we talk about we talk aboutthe power of the word, and I got
somebody who's a lyricalsuperhero, you know what I'm
saying?
you know what I'm saying?
He got bars for days.
his, clothing line, his, hisofficial something you never
seen before.
Another thing too, he's a greatsupporter of this show, man.

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Some, some of his words got methrough some episodes.
I want you to give a warmwelcome.
Yo.
Pressure boo thank for having,bro.
You're man.
I love, man.
Oh no, no doubt, man.
Yo, I appreciate you being here,man.

(06:04):
Uh, appreciate the shirt.
You know what I mean?
Had to show, you know, Flypoison Yo, Hey, thank you bro.
Thank you bro.
I appreciate that.
Of course, of course, man.
put it on your websites.
Save it for after the episode orbe, or during the episode.
Cause you know the phones worklike that.
You could do that, but but howyou, Yo, but how you doing today

(06:26):
man?
I'm doing good, man.
I can't call it man.
Just taking shit one day at atime, you feel me?
No doubt, no doubt.
I'm good.
So it's good with you.
I'm yo, I'm good man.
I'm glad you asked that.
I'm like, yo, nobody be askingme questions, man.
Nobody be like, How you doing?
I'm like, yo, I'm alright man.
You know, Had a good day.
like shit.
Ask the host, What's up?
I'm telling man.

(06:50):
Aw man.
So, you know, quick before weget into the episode, the way we
met was, um, I was working atWeWork and it was like, I think
my second, third day of trainingand day one, you know what I'm
saying?
He put me onto game, let meknow, Yo, this shit is easy.
Long as you do your shit, makeit look like it, like you did.

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You know, extraordinary work.
You good.
Know what I mean?
He let me know.
And then I took that shit and Igot a little, I got promoted to
the day.
but you know, we work if anybodysaw documentary, uh, Adam rocked
up.

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we all, how to pay for thatshit.
You saw the documentary?
Nah.
Was Oh yeah, but we work Yeah,yeah, yeah.
I seen that.
Doctor worry man.
It, it was,
and
she didn't
have
you.
Yo.
I can't.
I tell people all the time, Ican't even talk about that
documentary.
didn't even mention us, bro.
They ain't even mention us.

(07:52):
Damn.
I wait for them to say, oh, thepeople that made the fruit
water, they ain't mention thefruit water, white fruit for
nothing, bro.
Oh boy.
Yo.
And I was making stars out ofit.
I was doing all types ofactivities with the fruit water,
bro.
fucking making Pacman Come onman.

(08:14):
Nah, yo.
They were great people though.
They, you know what I'm saying,that they had nothing to do with
Adam.
Yeah.
I got along with a lot of thepeople in there.
It was cool, man, boy, you knowwhat I'm saying?
They had us making mad coffee,son.
Remember that?
Mad coffee, bro.
All day, day, all night makingcoffee.
SD ass coffee, bro.
shit was it?

(08:36):
Yo, But, uh, well, you know howwe do things, man.
But before we get started hot,tell'em where you from, man.
For me, I like, just say I'mfrom Brooklyn.
I spent the majority of my lifein Brooklyn, but I was born in
Queens.
I don't wanna, I don't wannatake away from the other buts.
I was born in Queens, spent sixyears in Harlem, and then the

(08:57):
rest of my life in Brooklyn.
I ain't never go nowhere.
I, since you feel me, Brooklyn,Queens, Harlem.
As long as new, as long as youin New York, you getting that
New York.
You just ain't get the

ray (09:08):
bush.

perf (09:09):
I just take out the bush with the New York.
And I ain't gonna from um, Ithink I said that once before.
I lived in Queens for sevenyears like nine years total.
Cause I lived, then I'm, when Imoved back from Florida, I lived
in Queens for two years.
But the rest is Bushwick.
Queens is different, man.
Queens is different.

(09:31):
Yeah, Queens is different.
Man.
We is really different.
I ain't gonna front, I mean, mepersonally, you know, Brooklyn
is, is home man.
It, it's no place like this.
Especially, you know, thatblock, that block that you, that
you became you on, it'sdifferent.
That block is different.
you can move everywhere else butthat block that you became to
you, that's when it's different.

(09:53):
you got family there.
Yeah, like, like you could lookat the they got and like catch
like 30 memories of whathappened on that corner.
word bacon memories man.
Where when Popp the raw changeword.
Bacon, egg, cheese.
You like yo papa, you gave methe raw change man.

(10:14):
It's bacon cheese.
$2 man, come on you.
That shit, you know that shitman.
Nah, it.
It said$2.
Where?
It's like five now.
So Yo damn.
Yeah.
When I first started writing theepisode, when I thought about,
uh, words having power, firstperson that came to my mind was
Malcolm X.
when I was younger, I ain't notoo much man.

(10:37):
I remember I had the hat, I hadthe shirt.
You remember when they had the,the Malcolm Legs, clothes back
in the day?
You had the little kit.
You had the little kid.
Yeah, I had the Scully and shit.
Oh man.
The ex Scully.
I still see, like, I still seehim back sometimes shit though.
yeah, man, with him, he was,well, he was a street dude, bro,
out hustling.
And then got locked up, startedreading, got with certain people

(11:00):
and changed his word.
Like him changing the way hespeaks his words, changed him as
a man.
He even changed his last name.
to this day, he's still beingtalked about and he's still
respected and he, he taught us alot of lessons, you know what I
mean?
And one that is never too lateto change, you know what I mean?

(11:21):
That's a fact.
And using the right words andspeaking them into your life can
give you the life you want.
You you don't know this now thatthe things you say is the life
you have now, or times you sayyou're gonna see or this shit
always happens to you.
Things like that.
So where, when it comes toMalcolm Man, like when you

(11:41):
first, heard his story, likewhat, what were your, what were
your thoughts?
Well, What's interesting aboutthat is like me learning about
Malcolm X, like in school, I wasjust like everybody else, Like
you learn like the typicalstories about Malcolm X and
Martin Luther King in Februaryfor Black History Month.
You feel what I'm saying?

(12:02):
But when I used to come home, Iwas raised by my grandma.
So when I used to come hometalking all the stuff that I
learned in school, she used toalways correct me.
Like instantly like, Oh, nah,there's a lot more to this story
you need to know.
So I didn't really know too muchabout Malcolm Connect until I
was speaking to one of my olderuncles.

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And, um, I was realargumentative as a kid.
So I used to get into like,adult debates and I, I used to
feel like I knew, you know whatI'm saying?
Like, I knew what I was talkingabout.
You feel me?
So, yeah, I used to, I used todo the same shit.
Yeah.
So I started, I started talkingabout Malcolm X, this Malcolm X
that he was like, Yo, until youread a book about Malcolm X, you

(12:48):
shouldn't really speak on it.
So he gave me a book, like anautobiography to Malcolm X early
when I was like, maybe like, um,like 12, 13, something like
that.
Yeah.
And I'm not gonna lie, I didn'tfinish the whole book, but I
read like a good, like half ofit, You know what I'm saying?
Mm-hmm.

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and.
Everything.
just learning, like how he waslike as a young man, growing up.
Like the different things he wasdoing when he was Detroit Red,
running through the streets withthe red hair and the gun.
Oh, he was wilding out sellingweed and you know what I'm
saying?
Like he was doing a lot, youfeel me?
He was really outside.
Outside.
And then you like see where hebecame.

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It's like a pure example.
Like what you saying?
Like you can always change.
There's always room for change.
Even though he gotta go to jail.
I ain't saying you gotta go tojail to change, you feel me?
But you don't wanna go to jail.
You can, you know what I'msaying?
there's other ways to change.
But I feel like, like, damn,they went to jail or he went to
jail and he still did his thing.

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You didn't go to jail.
Why you not doing your thing?
Like that.
That's what it does to me.
That's a fact.
That's a good way to look at it,bro.
That's a good way to look at it,bro.
Word man.
And bro, like, yo, his wordsbro, like, and, and Denzel, they
couldn't pick a better person toplay Malcolm Beck.
Like, I forgot.

(14:13):
I forgot.
It wasn't Denzel.
I was like, Yo, that I'm like,Yo, that's That's Malcolm.
That's Malcolm.
That's him.
He came, He came back for themovie.
Word.
Word.
He did his thing for real word.
Yo, by any means necessary.
That is, Think about that.
Think about that line bro.

(14:35):
Like he not, I mean, you don'twant to take it to the extent
though, like, like any means,but you want to do whatever, you
know, shit that, that's, thatgot integrity in it.
Like, by any means you can do itand it starts with the way you
speak cuz.
And, and it, I feel like it goeither way.

(14:55):
You can start speakingdifferently and then you start
thinking differently and thenyou start asking, or you can
start thinking differently,start speaking differently,
start acting differently.
Uh, they all in correlation witheach other.
But I didn't, You are doingresearch, bro.
When, when I was like, yo, I Idon't even play around with I
can't no more.
Or I'm a try.
No or no.
It's either I, it's either I'mdoing it or I'm not doing it.

(15:17):
Like, yo, that's a fact.
And I'm never saying no wildshit about myself again, bro.
Like if like, you know, you makea mistake, ah, I feel like a
dickhead.
Like nah, I feel like a fuckingking dog.
What you talking about?
I'm a king word.
Or it takes work.
It takes work to correct that.
Cuz you gotta make a habit ofthose things.
Like, I think a, a lot of peoplehave a habit of doing like the

(15:39):
opposite.
my homeboy, he he gave me thisbook called How to Own Your Own.
So like, it, it, it teaches likea lot of things about how you
have to like retrain your wholethinking process.
Cuz, or sometimes you have tounlearn things.
You might have learned a lot ofdifferent things growing up.
Some of those things might notbe beneficial to you at this

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point in your life.
So you have to like, unlearnthose things.
And then you have to learn likenew habits.
So like, speaking those positiveaffirmations is like a good
habit to learn and unlearn thosesadness of speaking like
downward on yourself.
Yeah.
Cause cause it's all repetition.
The only reason you believe thebullshit about yourself is
because you told yourself thebullshit all this time.

(16:23):
Of course you gonna get stuck tothat.
So, affirmations, yo affirm, yo,we're gonna get into that later.
But affirmations, life changing.
That's a fact.
I agree with that.
That's a difference.
Telling yourself every day, Yo,I'm a billionaire.
I'm a boss.
I'm, I'm great at this.
Like, you feel a certain energy.

(16:43):
One of, one of my, one of thequotes that stuck to me was, um,
there's no better thanadversity.
Every heartbreak, every loss,contains its own seed, its own
lesson.
To improve your performance.
Mm.
Yo Like, Yo, you know, and youknow the way he said it, you
know what I mean?
Like, yo, we ain't laying onPlymouth Rock.

(17:04):
Plymouth Rock Put the sauce onit.
Put the sauce on it.
Rock Word.
That's heavy though.
For real, for real.
Yeah.
But you know what, I alwaysthink about that movie, that
power where he goes, Yo, whenwhen the dude was putting him on
to Islam, he was like, You knowwhy you cursed brother?

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Cause you don't have enough inyour vocabulary.
I was like, Nah.
I was like, Damn, is that why Icurse so much?
Cause you know what I'm saying,I'll be dropping the bomb.
You know, word, word.
It was dope.
But that was the starting point.
Then he started checking hiswords and then became, like I
said, but he also taught us his,You can't say too much, you know

(17:46):
what I mean?
Unfortunately, freedom of speechin this world only goes so far.
Darkness cannot drive outdarkness.
Only light can do that.
Hate cannot drive out Hate.
Only love can do that.
So Martin Luther King, man, Ihave a dream.
And it's crazy that, that thatspeech didn't affect me as much
as it did now, like being thisgrown and knowing how shit

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really works and knowing thateven though some people may have
looked at him as soft bro, butlike he, the quote that I just
said, You can't drive out haywith hate.
That's the truth.
That's why we, we gonna continueto go to war.
We're gonna continue to do thisbullshit.
Cause nothing's ever handledwith love never's ever, sir.
Anything is just politics andexpenses.

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But he was, uh, Yeah, man.
He was a great man.
Man.
You remember, um, That's truewhen you heard the, the Ma
Luther King story when you was akid.
Yeah.
It was, it's, it's realdifferent from the real story,
but, um, um, the end of thebalcony, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's wild, bro.
I learned that shit older man.
That shit had to me tight.

(18:49):
I'm like, Wow.
Everybody thought was at thebalcony.
They came and word.
Yeah, man, it, it, it happenedto a lot of our legends, know
what I'm saying?
They explained it to us one way,but thanks to the incident, you
know, we got to find out some ofthe things that really happened,
And some of the things that theyreally said, and not just the

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mainstream things, you feel me?
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
And, and, and you in school,they, you know, they teach us
the history.
They want us to know, not theone that we should know.
They want the sugarcoat shit,but it's like, yo, like, yo, you
don't even realize like, yo,they start off teaching you how.
Christopher Columbus, Thatasfound the sh like he didn't

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really find it, like even saysit, like there were people
already there.
He thought he went to India.
Some thought he was in India.
That's why they called like wordYou take a day off of Dukes.
Like, that's crazy.
they finally got around andchanging it.
Look how long it took.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
Now, now it's like peoplestarting to get out.

(19:52):
He was part of the whole slavething, you know?
I mean, I don't know.
It was like the slave thing wasalready happening or he was
like, Yo, I think I readsomething that he was like, Yo,
there's a lot of people we coulduse.
And these like, that's,

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and there's

perf (20:05):
a statue food.
There's, Where's his statue at?
Yo.
That's ready.
you not getting political.
Um, yeah.
When I first heard, I remember,So I was a kid.
I read the story like first whenthey were reading, we were
reading the story and it wasgetting me hype cause he was
saying this and saying that.
So as a kid his words werecatching me.
And then I remember when theygot to the end of the story, I

(20:28):
remember somebody tried to like,joke with me about it.
And I remember I, I fuckingplaying with me, bro.
I, I used to say, Your son, stopplaying with me, son.
That shit is not funny.
But I was, that's just a.
It's like I'm dead I'm be, I'mkeep it a buck bro.
Like I'm gonna use a Jay-Z line.

(20:49):
Truthfully, I wanna rhyme likecommon sense, but I did five
mil.
I ain't been roaming like commonsense.
And I say that because the typeof podcast I truly wanted to be
was the, the dude to exposetruth like I want.
But it's like, that's a, that'sa lose lose situation.
So I'm just gonna use my, I'mgonna take action instead of

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talking about it.
Cuz that's another thing.
It's one thing to talk about it,but how are you gonna be part of
the solution?
Right?
So I know that Kanye thing, youknow, Kanye words got the whole
internet bugging.
But what he said has got merethinking the way I speak.
Like I ain't gonna front.
So like, sometimes it's like howI'm gonna talk about it.

(21:30):
Like if I, if I'm saying of acomment about somebody on, like,
I can't be like, yo, this bitchass person, I gotta be like this
bitch ass nigga, right.
Word.
I wanna be on some, I wanna beon some like yo Peace King shit.
Yo Peace King I'm just sayinglike, I'm gonna try to just
really, if I gotta change thewhole sentence, man, If I just
gotta not even say nothing atall, I'm not gonna say it.

(21:52):
That shit made me think.
You the only ones that do thatto each other, The other rate,
they don't do that to eachother, bro.
Nah, that's a fact.
That's a fact.
That hit me.
That hit don't see words, Theyhit you.
yo helos, everything.
Just for a few words, man.
But we gotta do better as acommunity man.
that's the main thing.
We gotta do better as acommunity.

(22:13):
Cause we can't allow that at acertain, at a certain, to a
certain degree.
There's freedom of speech.
You're allowed to say what youwanna say.
And to a certain degree he'swrong with the things that he is
saying.
But at the same time, us as acommunity, we gotta start
learning how to get outragedabout things.
Like when people start sayingthe wrong things about us, we

(22:34):
can't just let them slide.
We gotta get outraged too.
So we gotta stretch it down too.
Like you can't, Yo, you done,You said something about us.
You done word.
That's a fact.
It should be, It should be.
You know how it is.
Vice versa.
But yeah, definitely.
I I always wanna make sure, Yo,I'm not agreeing what, what
Kanye said, like the fucked upshit He didn't articulate it
well and I don't know, I don'tknow if it was part of his plan

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cause now he's outta his deals.
I don't really know.
I just know he just made merealize certain things.
Cause you can realize.
something great in, in a fuckedup situation, all conversation.
So I don't Nah, that's a fact.
There's other speakers of coursewe can speak on, but we can go
on.
Like, um, My son, I mean, Gandhihas some dope ass words.
Yeah, I can't think of anybody,anybody else?

(23:17):
so I want to talk, I don't know,how are you with the modern
speakers?
Right?
Like, one dude that, well heintroduced me to the self-help
game was Tony Robbins.
Um, I saw in, um, he was inShallow How, and, and ever since
then, like, yo, he's just thebeast with the words man, like
certain techniques he's told meto try.

(23:37):
Just like, um, like he got thisseven day mental diet where you
don't say anything negative.
You don't even give, you don'teven give energy to the negative
attention.
So, you know what I'm saying?
Like, he, he, I feel like theself help world, like I know
there was other people that werepart of it, but he's the one
that made.
No.
You got Les Brown, of course.

(23:58):
Uh, you, you got Eric Thomas,you know what I mean?
He's a legend.
Um, Eric Thomas gave me hypethough cause he'd be like, You
not hungry, um, dude, unlesslet's be getting hype too.
He'd be like, make sure you fallon your back.
Cause if you can look up, youcan get up.
Yeah.

(24:19):
You, you listen to them dudeslike you, you, uh, sometimes,
like I, for me with self-help, alot of times they be coming
across it, it comes across froma celebrity.
Like sometimes I, I'll go andwatch like Jim Carey speaking or
watch Kobe Bryant speaking orlike, you know what I'm saying?
Like, people like that.

(24:39):
If you catch them like in theyback, like really talking about
substance, then you get thatsame kind of vibe.
So That's true.
And, and that's two goodexamples.
Cause maybe yo Jim Carey's wokeas fuck, I'm glad that he still
get jobs, You know what I mean?
Cause I'll be like, Yo, when yousay some, some shit that if
people followed you, they ain'tgonna like that.
And you still good.

(25:00):
You know?
Or Will Smith too.
Will Smith too.
Real quick, let me say somethingabout Will Smith.
He had something on one of thosevideos where he had like a
treadmill theory.
He was like, his whole thing isjust out working his
competition.
So he look at life like atreadmill, like no matter what
you're gonna get off thetreadmill before him.

(25:21):
It doesn't matter like how slowhe's going, how fast he's going,
he's gonna keep going so whenyou quit, he's still going.
So I really just likeinternalized that.
It's just like a real neverquick kind of mentality that you
gotta have when you reallyfocused on something.
You feel me?
Right.
I like when he said that cuz hewas like,

(25:41):
I will not be out worked right.
Period.
Yeah.
You might have more talent thanme.
You might be In the
I don't care if you're smarter than me.
I don't care if you're bothstronger than me.
I'm not getting off thattreadmill before you get ready
so you don't have to get ready.
I'm like, let's go hire yo.

(26:03):
Trust me Will Smith.
Words are powerful.
I mean, his words really slapnot just him, like his words
That was slick.
That was slick right there.
I like this.
I talk you know what I'm saying?
Uh, yeah.
But ever since, I'm sorry, Eversince he was young, he was just
always had this wisdom and Ifeel like, it be dope if it

(26:25):
would've helped him with his,his lyrical bars.
But ain't need to the shit thathe.
Someone can use a Will Smithquote and get through the day or
get through a situation.
I'm glad you bought him up, bro.
Like, I didn't even know why Ihave something on the list.

ray (26:40):
Fucking,

perf (26:41):
like, I like Gary V, I like him cuz he's like, Yo, stop
the bullshit.
But now I'm starting to listento other dudes like I've been
listening to these gym heads.
that they just been Are you withyou to excuse his motherfucker,

ray (26:56):
I was like, God.

perf (26:57):
He was like, you need to tell the bitch and you to shut
the fuck up.
I was like, God damn.
Gosh.
That shit I wasn't two.
Cause I, I was like, I had justsaid I run the rains.
Nigga said, You being a bitch.
I was like, Bet fucking I wasover here like, you better for
two seconds.
Better run.
Two, get your ass up right now.

(27:19):
That's crazy.
we spoke about Speaks.
Now I wanted to speak aboutrapper lyrics.
The influence in the culture.
Mm-hmm.
from my experience, I had the, Iwore my clothes backwards.
When Chris cross.
Jump was jumping right?
Me too.
Me too.
box braids too.

(27:39):
At the braids.
Yo, everything.
That's a fact.
I'll tell you, there's a coupleman.
I'm just trying to remember offthe top of my hat.
I remember when Jay-Z.
Remember when Jay-Z madeeverybody buy the hat with the
cap to the side?
Oh my gosh.
Yo, I hate every time I see oneof those hats, I just hate it.
I hate that we wore thosethings, bro.

(27:59):
I had one in every color, bro.
I hate it.
I hear that song.
If you feeling like a is.
Oh my gosh, bro.
Horrible.
I remember yo, this, when Jayshut down, um, Diesel.

(28:21):
He's like, These a diesel nigga.
This is a I, Oh my gosh.
Everybody had a voice.
It was bons in high school afterthat, bro.
Trying to get$300 jeans when you15 is crazy, bro.
That's Wow.
Cause Home said it.
Word.

(28:42):
Oh, how about in the eighties?
Uh, Adidas.
Adidas, they had Adidas word.
Run dmc.
Shout out to Run dmc.
Where my Adidas, That changedeverything.
Word, man.
That that's a, that whathappened Hip.
Like, I feel like if it wasn'tfor them, co, you know what I'm
saying?
Kanye wouldn't have got that bigdeal.
Like they started that.

(29:02):
Hell yeah.
They like the first rapathletes, you know what I'm
saying?
You feel me?
Aw man.
And yo, and we come from NewYork, man, where bars matter.
Like, say that again.
Yo, you remember yo, there likefor new, for a lot of New
Yorkers.
When I feel like, to me, whenJay-Z retired, that was the end

(29:23):
of like the New York lyrical Crucame right there and no one gave
a fuck about what you saidanymore.
So that left a whole, Yo, Iremember you couldn't get away
with not being nice.
And if you was from the southand you got in like you was ti
you know, there was certaingroups that got in, but at that
time, ain't no laughy Taffywould've been fucking, that shit
would've been made.
I guarantee you, for not at all2000 from like 98 to, to 2003,

(29:49):
Laughy Taffy would've not madeit.
I, That's now I New York.
Not in New York.
Yeah, We, we take our lyricsserious, bro.
Like, like when you startrobbing, you know, you just
can't rhyme without putting asimile in there.
Metaphor.
You can't just hack cat bat, youknow what I'm saying?
You gonna be sounding like Dralsuits over here.

(30:10):
You start yo.
Dr.
Ses had a float I was reading tomy kids.
I was like, Oh, you know thestory behind Dr.
Ses though?
Nah, his friend him to write abook only using 50 words.

(30:35):
Oh wow.
Ladies and gentlemen, Dr.
Word.
Now I gotta get more credit.
That's how I'm trying tochallenge him.
nigga say, Yo, you can't write abook with 50 words, nigga.
I am.
I am.
Yeah, right.
But, um, yeah, yeah.
And yo lyrics, right?

(30:55):
Gangster music.
I'm sure a lot of gangsters, alot of people with gangs are, is
a product of the gangster music.
Even though I ain't gonna frontme, I love it myself, you know
what I'm saying?
And a, any type of West Coast,you know what I'm saying?
Mm-hmm.
angst the shit I rock with.
Especially the old school.
Especially like that nineties,you, I mean, everything that was

(31:16):
made in the nineties was just,that's the golden era.
That's the, that's the era.
Hell yeah but, it influenced alot of people thinking that.
What's cool, which is like,like, you know, us being in the
hood too, right?
Like we in the hood, uh, we, wesee people like us more playing
basketball and ramming.
Mm-hmm.
So, so we go to where we believewe can go to, Right?

(31:40):
Cause think about yo son, you,you know how much a fucking, yo
I forgot what manager.
It's an investment banker.
One of the, No, no, it's a damnone of these investment banking.
One of yo son, the ceo.
Like if you become not a ceo, soit's a regular, like, it's a job
that they make 300 mil, like ayear type shit.

(32:01):
Like that's a year salary, 300mil.
Wow.
Well, I didn't know about thatjob until I was 36 years old.
I would've been banking my assoff.
I would've been called, Iwould've like Yo Morgan, yo
word.
It's not, it is not even meantfor us to know that type of
information, you know?
Yeah, exactly.
But that, that's, that, that'swhat I'm saying.

(32:22):
Like with, with hiphop, yougotta take hiphop and jam with
it.
the music, the hiphop music thatwill influence you to do Right.
That shit don't last on theradio.
Like, it won't, like Kanye, Ifront Kanye made history with
Jesus walks.
Like, they'll talk about that.
a lot of rappers couldn't havepulled that off Well, no, that's
a fact.
That's a fact.

(32:43):
He said it in the song.
So like, know what I'm saying?
He is like, you know, like arapper can rap about anything
and stuff for Jesus.
That exactly.
Last video tape for if a rapperabout God, my record won't get
played.
Word.
That's a fact.
I think.
I think Consequence Helper writethat shit.
Cause that

ray (32:59):
shit was fine.

perf (33:02):
Uh, I think it was Ro Fest.
Ro Fest.
Oh, it probably was Ro Fest.
Ro Fest was nice too.
Word.
That's a fact.
damn.
So can you, can you recall a, atime, like lyrics or music made
you, you know, switch somethingup all the time?
That's all the time for me.
Like, I'm a rap artist myself.
I grew up listening to mainlyhip hop.

(33:24):
I ain't gonna lie, like evenfrom a child.
Some of it, you know, my grandmatried her best to keep it away.
But I would still get to it.
Cause my father is like a realavid hip hop fan.
So that was his idea, like, ofmaking sure we heard real music.
So I grew up listening to like,everything Wutang, Biggie,
Smalls, Nas, every mix, tape,every, everything you can think

(33:49):
of, You know what I'm saying?
So, Lyrics is always influencinghow I live, how I move.
Even like to this day, you gottasearch through to find the good
ones.
But if you find, find some goodones, they talking about
something and, it can influenceyou to change or at least remind
you of something that you mighthave thought of before.
Like, you might have wannachange that in the past, but
this rap song, he said somethingthat sparked that in you today.

(34:11):
And fuck, now you gonna makethat effort, you feel me?
Or I, I agree with that man.
Cause like with me, music, likeme personally, whether it was
gangster or it was conscious, Irocked with it.
but I will take something from,from all of them, right?
So if I heard some g shit, if,if I'm about to go do some G
shit or, I need a little, alittle bit of confidence, you

(34:34):
know, or some I, oh, before Iused to podcast, I used to
listen to, um, um, fucking, uh,pressure by Jadas
Phones is all fine.
And this time
Oh man, what I'm saying.
and speaking of, shit lyrics,Jada kiss, his, his words don't
only hit like with themetaphors.
The shit he say is so truthfuland it's always co.

(34:57):
Word.
I agree.
JD Kiss is probably any givenday.
I, I would say that's myfavorite rapper, definitely in
the top three for me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's there.
I ain't, he's definitely in mytop five.
My top three is a little, Idon't know, man.
My top three I know for sure onit is, is Jay-Z.
Is Jay-Z and Nas, but I'm alsoan m and m fan, so that get me.

(35:19):
Yeah.
Jada's there for sure.
Man.
Hang on front.
I'm gonna be honest, like when Ithink about it though, cause I,
I like em is still nice.
It's just, I feel like Emma isacting like he's still, like,
he's still starting, like he'sstill new.
I feel like he's so conscious innot losing his lyrical shit that
he probably adds too much lyric.
I don't know if that's possible,he's a sciences with it now,

(35:40):
man.
Like he scientists with it, bro.
He all the way, like if it's, ifrap was a video game, he's the
last level, you know what I'msaying?
Of the video, yo.
You feel me?
Oh man.
But yeah, man, uh, shit, that'swhat I'm saying.
Yo lyrics change every, yo itcan affect everything, from the

(36:01):
way you dress the way I, I say,from the way I speak, certain
words.
I mean, it was more like mybrother.
When son came out with youheard, french, Montana.
I can't even forgot his name.
Yeah.
But when he came out with, youheard Hmm.
I was saying that shit afterlike every sentence you heard

(36:21):
Right.
I was the same way with, withMax B was home, everything was
wavy, everything was the way,Remember that?
Everything was wavy, You feelme?
Yo, we still, he's still lockedup.
Right?
Or free Max B, they got free towave real free max.
Yo, yo.
He look, his lyrics, he hasn'tbeen out in a minute and, and

(36:42):
he's still gotta follow it,which is crazy.
Wow.
Like, that's what I'm saying,rappers possess of power with
they words.
That's, that's insane.
Where like, well, where I'm withit now with, with my, with my
conscious, I can listen to theshit sometime.
Like, so, like I can't listen toit as much.
Especially like, cuz when yourealize what you feed your

(37:03):
brain, even if you liked itgrowing up, if the song's just
saying, Bitch this, fuck this,I'm gonna shoot this up.
Even though I like it, I can'tlet that that be the, you know,
I, I'd rather hear somethinglike getting.
I want to hear that that's factgetting wrong.
That shit might, it might helpme out if I'm gonna go give a

(37:23):
speech or I'm about to go dosomething I'm afraid of.
But, use music and then, andthere's words to just uplift
you.
Like, nah, that's a fact.
But I, I would say music backthen was a little bit more
metaphorical and a little bitmore creative.
Now I
think
rapping is a little bit more literal.
You, they want things, peoplewant things to be fact based

(37:43):
mostly, or at least to soundthat way, make you feel like
this person is speaking facts.
But like, if you really look atclassic music, like you can look
at them the same way you wouldlook at like a author writing a
novel.
Like, you gotta get creative.
So these people would paintcreative pictures.
Like, I never really had aproblem separating that this
person as a artist.

(38:04):
And as a kid, of course I didn'tknow.
But once I started rhymingmyself, you start realizing like
you're in control of everythingthat you say.
So you can actually, if you wantto say this same exact thing in
a creative way, you can, youjust have to find a way to say
it.
Yeah.
So, I started paying attentionto that with, you know what I

(38:24):
mean?
With rappers, like rappers likeBiggie, he might not have done
every single thing he rap, butthe way he's rapping it, he's
very theatrical and he's usingmetaphors, he's using, being
descriptive of the atmosphere,everything.
So it's like a north of, youfeel me?
He's

ray (38:41):
a great story tellers.
Right?
So like, like Nas too.
Man, I love, I love when Nasbreaks some shit down, bro.

perf (38:47):
Likes is one of the best

ray (38:49):
for real, man.
And I ain't gonna front, like Ieven said like j everybody knows
me, like knows Jay-Z's myfavorite rapper.
But if I would've startedlistening to j and Nas as a
grownup, I probably would'vewent Nas just cuz of the, the
shit he's on is the shit I grewinto.
I mean, don't get me wrong, Jay.
Now, you know, staying on thetopic of words, I like Jay words

(39:09):
cuz Jay, he pushed shit out thathe was gonna do before he did
it.
Rock wear 80 mil like 18 months.
Yeah.
88 mil.
Right.
certain things he, he, Oh wait,when he was on the song with
Biggie, I promise.
Well he said, and I told Big,I'll be more tired before I die.
Right, That's what I'm saying.
There's so you, there's so muchlife in, in your words, man.

(39:32):
Like, you know, even if I gottabring it to the Bible, God was
with the word everything.
Like, whether you believe in theuniverse, I feel like the
universe, God, something, asound had to be made and like,
you know, our men mm-hmm.
all of that's supposedly like,sounds of God.
So, you know what I mean?
Like, No, that's a fact.
So that's just, I just, I wouldjust wanna showcase the power

(39:53):
where, I mean, I'm sure we stillat the, we still got something
to go, but, so I, I, there's alot of rappers I know you could
go, but out of all of them,which one influenced you the
most?
Which one made you say yo, like,I'ma start, I must really start
rapping and,

perf (40:05):
I, well to influence me to start rapping directly, I have
to say my brother, cause mybrother rap too.
When I was, when I was ateenager, my brother was the
first person rap.
He is rapping.
When studios you had to recordon a cassette, you feel me?
You gotta go to the studio, geta cassette back.
So seeing him rap kind of mademe believe like, I can do this

(40:26):
too.
At first I was just making beatsand then that transformed into
like, alright, let me try this.
outside of my brother, I wouldsay the rapper that probably got
me I would probably say Fab, FabLike, I, like I in early two
thousands, everything about theway Fab Roed was like, it was

(40:49):
like a goal.
Like, yo, you wanted to be thattype of rapper.
Like you wanted to have likethat much control.
You want to be smooth, but youwanted to be like aggressive and
respected at the same time.
You feel me?
Like, so

ray (41:02):
It makes me laugh.
Cause when you start rapping,you kind of base yourself.
I didn't know somebody told methat.
Yo yo, you kind of baseyourself.
You need like somebody to kindof, mine was fab.
Yo, my rap name was precise.
Almost had like a flashy,fabulous type name, right?
And yo, and you heard that bothat so before, before we

(41:22):
started the episode, right?
We freestyler, but I spitunwritten.
You heard that whole shit abouta dudes girl.
Well he spit that song with Mikeb about,
all the up with texting.
I'm talking breakfast now
um, you know, saying, Damn, the one he, the beat is hard and
he just, it's about a, it isabout a dudes girl.
So Fab used to have those lineslike, Yo, I got dude's, girl,

(41:45):
whatever.
Yeah, that was my image.
Like, yo, I'm a smooth girlbefore I, girl I made a phone
one time call.
She came with you?
Was she leaving with me?
she leaving with me.
She was love to see.
That's your chick.

(42:06):
Yeah.
But she ain.
Yours.
Yeah, girl.
But she want more

perf (42:10):
Um, yo, that's that flow too.
2002.
2003.
That's that cadence.
I already

ray (42:18):
know, bro.
My punchlines were catered tolike almost yo, In Cassidy.
I was like a mix of fa and Ididn't even notice there was a
lyric sometimes I'm like, yo, Ibit, I just changed the lyrics,
but I took his whole like, hegoes, You better chill before
you lose like half of your face.
Right.
So I was like, I was like,precise, better come correct

(42:41):
before you lose like half ofyour neck.

perf (42:44):
Yeah.
Uh, Yep.
I'm dead.
I'm dead.
I feel you though.
Yo.
That that's dope.
We gotta, Cassidy is hellainfluence.
You Ca Cassidy is hella for one.
I gotta do because

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ray (43:47):
Word, word.
Speaking of the, so there'scertain people that like,
alright, there's people thatinfluence me, like mostly
lyrically, and there's peoplethat influence me lyrically and
in real life.
And one person that I, I I'mputting into existence cause
words are powerful.
Right.
KRS fucking won.
These two eyes, don't see thepast yet.
You can see your past and youcan see a future.

(44:09):
I need him on my show one day.
Not only to talk about real MCs,but to talk about that talk.
Yo, Like he's, bro, the dopestshit I heard him say was, I
dropped outta school in eighthgrade and now I teach a class
in, in Yale.
I was like, Oh, that's what Italking about.
I can't even be a high schooldropout.

(44:30):
I grad, I dropped outta eighthgrade.
He teaches in Yale and this waswhat he said was dope.
So he said, Yo, public librariesare free.
And he, he wanted to becomesomething.
he said his name was seekingtruth, knowledge, seeking
something like that.
Mm-hmm.
So him changing his name tothat, he became that.

(44:53):
And it's crazy, man, like justthe.
Words changing your word.
This is something called thepower of labeling.
Mm-hmm.
which is used wrong, is usedwrong, like on criminals.
Which if you, if you heard myepisode two weeks ago, system
malfunction, I mentioned that.
Mm-hmm.
But yeah, the power of labeling.
If somebody thinks they're acriminal and they can't do

(45:14):
nothing more than criminal shit,they will continue to be a
criminal.
So in this case, he said True,can see not, um, seeking true
knowledge.
He read so many books.
He filled himself with so muchinformation that that's why,
that's why you get the car.
KRS one that knows so much shit.
His wisdom is through thefucking roof.
And it all started with him.
We all know him as KRS one, buthe knew himself as seeking

(45:36):
knowledge, some shit like that.
But you know what I mean?
Like mm-hmm.
I'm about to change my name tothe fucking hundred million
dollar podcast,

perf (45:46):
Word, word.
I

ray (45:49):
be some care shit.
Like a real podcaster.

perf (45:53):
Gotta be the teacher, bro.

ray (45:55):
Talks for

perf (45:55):
the soul.
It starts with the goals.
Man.
Gotta have big goals, man.

ray (46:01):
Yo, your, your goals gotta make you nervous, cuz if they
don't, then that means it'ssafe.
If you're going to make younervous, that means your
sister's too safe.
Well, you, you said your, yousay I only wanna make a thousand
dollars a month, nigga, I'mtrying to make a million dollars
a month Word.
Fuck all that.
I'm trying to, like, I'm tryingto break that financial, you
know, I'm not even gonna put thecurse in there.

(46:22):
I'm just gonna build financialwealth.
Cause I feel like there's noguarantees, man.
I just wanna make sure my, mykids are good, man.
Like,

perf (46:29):
oh, that's a fact.

ray (46:30):
Having kids is a whole, is a whole different kind of love.
Like, and then speaking ofspeaking to kids, like the, with
kids, your words can eitherbuild them or break them.
Like that shit is like, it iscrazy.
I feel like a lot of people thatare like, are confident, like
from jump, that's their parentsin their ear.
You a great, you greatest,you're amazing, you're
beautiful.

(46:51):
What I mean?
Right, right.
And cause the thing is, whenthey don't get it from their
parents, then you know who thosepeople, cuz they trying to get
it from everybody else.
You know, everyone, the personthat's trying to hang out with
everybody or something.
Like, you know, when you youngeryou, you don't notice that you
get older, but yeah.
That's interesting, right?

perf (47:06):
Like, that's real

ray (47:07):
shit though.
Yeah, man.
But, um, yeah, kls one man, not,I, I just saw some freestyle.
He just body today though.
But, um, Yeah, man.
How, how do you, like, do yourock with kl?
Reo man?
Like, like you ever got to hearone of his, his speeches and
shit?
Oh yeah.
Hell

perf (47:22):
yeah.
KLS one is, He's the teacher,You know what I'm saying?
So like, every time I get achance to like, hear and speak,
I pay attention, you know whatI'm saying?
But I always, um, I alwaysadmired the fact that, uh, he
said this like a while ago thathe was like, they, they, I think
they asked him like, Do you everfeel threatened by new rappers?

(47:43):
And he was like, Nah, I don'tfeel threatened by new rappers.
Cuz he is like, every, for everynew rapper I gotta ro this and
them I'm like, for him beingthat like, for his age to be
like, yo, he's like, he's like,I'm ready for any rapper.
I'm like, yo, if he's gotta beready then I gotta be ready.
I can't, I can't be out hereacting like I'm ready if I

(48:04):
ain't, if I ain't on that typeof level.
Just that kind of mind frame,that kind of hunger is like
admirable, you know what I'msaying?
Like Yeah, yeah.
Always wanna be that

ray (48:12):
hunger, admirable shit.
Like it's just showing like he'sstill haven't lost a dog in him,
you know?
Right, right.
Yeah.
I ain't dropping the album, butI'm dropping the verse every day
in case you get, unless you getwhere you at the thought of this
shit.
You know what I When I think ofhiphop, like hip, he should be
the hiphop logo, like Deadass.

perf (48:31):
That's a fact.
Like a, I ain't at that.

ray (48:35):
Like, you know what I'm saying?
They made J West the fucking NBAlogo, he fucking and I, the jerk
making Oh man.
Oh man.
Another rapper.
Tupac, bro.
Tupac words was like, and Ibecame a Tupac fan mate, cuz I
was tight cuz you know, I was aBiggie fan and I ain't like at
all.

(48:56):
I don't give a fuck about Pac.
I was that dude.
And then I was like, damn, Pacis good, man.
Like Pac, Pac was woke and hewas been trying to say, yo,
especially when you hit changes,you be like, Damn, we still
going through that shit.
Cause when I heard, I didn't, Ididn't, yo I was that dude that
was like, you know, And when Iwas younger I didn't know.
I thought shit was fair.
I thought it was like a equalsociety.

(49:18):
I thought that people that justcomplained was just being lazy.
Like, and I was like, no.
And then I grew up and I waslike, Yo, I this, yo I think, I
don't know if I ever told thisstory, but I was working, Nah,
you know what, I'm not gonnatell

perf (49:31):
this story.
That's a, that's a off airtopic.
That's a off

ray (49:38):
air.
Yeah, definitely a off air.
But yeah, Pac Man, give me,gimme a, gimme your favorite Pac
song right now, Man.
Top Pac song that come,

perf (49:48):
Hail Mary and um, Pain is a good song.
I think that's from the abovethe Rim soundtrack.
Oh, okay.
But like, um, he was a great,Yeah, I always, Huh,

ray (50:00):
So he was a

perf (50:01):
great actor too.
Yeah, that's a fact.
But I always, as an adult, whenI, when I went back and I was
listening to that song, it's,it's a simple lyric and he says,
um, I'm drinking Hennessy,riding on my enemies.
Will I ever see 23 and some or,or, Something like that

(50:24):
Something about being the age 23in so much pain.
Yeah.
And I was like, damn.
It really made me realize likePac was a, he was mad young
bruh.
Like Pac didn't get to see likeanything, you know what I'm
saying?
But he all, he so Seesaw so muchand that short amount of time he
was here.
Awful.
Yeah.

(50:44):
It's like to be, to be thatdeep.
Like, cuz when you really thinkabout it, there's no real like
mental health reflection toomuch inside that era of hip hop.
Yeah.
And when you think about, that'slike a mental health moment
right there.
Just like realizing like, I meanso much like why I'm in, why am
I in this much pain at this age?
You feel what I'm saying?

(51:04):
Like, I should

ray (51:05):
That's what I'm saying.
Look, the power of words, like,Pac always mentioned he was
going, you know, he was, hementioned times that he was, he
was, he knew he was gonna goearly.
if you feel like that way, don'tsay that shit shut.
Like, don't even put that shitinto existence.
Cause big words.
I remember they were say, Ithink my boy was telling me that
little King was in the interviewlike, Oh, Pac always talked
about dying.

(51:25):
And I was like, and big didn'tword ready to die, life after
death word.
Yo.
With, with words, bro.
That's how powerful I won't evenwrite a verse to life after
death.
I would or ready to die.
I would, I would change thewhole shit.
I would change it to ready tolive and change the verse.
Like that's, that's how, notonly so your thoughts scare you,

(51:46):
like cuz your thoughts becomewhat you attract.
But your words bro, you do notwanna say some shit that you
don't want to come forward.
That's why you gotta say theshit that you wanna say.
Cuz I'm telling you, if, if itis not the biggest exa that's
why I stood on hip hop for aminute.
Even though like, I know it'sself-help and not everybody
likes hip hop, but hip hop wordsare so powerful just because,

(52:09):
one, what you listen to themost, you know, repetition is,
you know, you become what you dothe most, what you think about
the most with what you feed yourmind.
Right.
That's a fact.
Like rappers have a a, a fuckingoutlet.
They have a way to change soma'slaws, you know what I'm saying?
For the better and for some theydo and some, uh, is different.

(52:30):
The commercial rap, the shitthat, you know what I mean?
Like that, that, that they, thatthey play in the radio that has
no substance.
Mm-hmm.
that is just, you know, yougotta look like this and you
gotta look like that and you notwearing the lady's stuff.
Like all that at this age you'relike, come on man.
But you just see how much.
Like how much the higher upknow, right?
That we get this person on theradio saying the same shit,

(52:54):
We're gonna promote this typeof, you know, it's gonna promote
they shit.
Like they, you know what I'msaying?
I just hate that they know thepower words.
Like they know the power ofpsychology and Yeah, it's used
the wrong way when they could belike, Yo, bro, if Jay-Z says, I
don't know if Jay-Z still gotthat power, but a lot of us that
that fuck with him.
If he be like, Yo, I'm done withthis.
Like when he body, when he said,Yo, y'all done with Auto Tunes

(53:17):
Somebody was like, Yo, um, canyou delete the auto tune tracks
I got in the back?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jay said it's over.
Yeah.
if people that influence themasses the most say something,
they have so much, but I alsoknow it's politics and they
can't cause, if me, you and fourof us are billionaires, right?

(53:39):
We can, we can end world hunger,but you, you, yo, it's illegal
to catch brain water.
I didn't even know that, but tostay on track.
I'm saying, I'm trying, I'mgonna cut a lot of the stuff
out.
I'm trying not to be orsomething.
shit, you know, you know, youknow what I'm talking about bro.
No, really know.
and you got, you know, you gotrope, uh, you got most def yeah,
most def man, most.

(54:00):
Shit.
Yo, most of you, most of us isalso some Google shit.
I remember they asking somequestion on Drink Champs.
He was like, his answer waslike, I am.
I Nor was like, Oh

perf (54:10):
shit,

ray (54:11):
yo, that's me saying no, I'm my for yo.
What, what's his name?
Yo Simbe now, right?

perf (54:16):
Yasim Bay.
Yeah.
Yasim.

ray (54:20):
I didn't even know, I saw, I've been so out the loop.
I didn't even know he went to, Iguess that's his real name.
yeah, he changed his name andall.
Yeah.
I didn't even know.
I'm like, damn.
Like, yo, But he's so, you know,he's so cool like that.
You ain't even smooth.
alright, so now, so we stillspeaking about the power of
where I hope it's kicking in.
Like, damn, how much power ofwords possess, poetry is my
world, or spoken word, whateveryou want to call it.

(54:42):
the way I, you know how Istarted writing poetry?
How's that?
I used to give my boy to writeme poetry for the shorties,
right?
In high.
Since she used to work, but Oneday, one day he was like, Yo,
you write that shit.
And I was like, I'm gonna try itI wrote it.
I wrote it and yeah, I had, Ihad shorty like in a day or two,

(55:03):
I was just with her in thehallway.
I was like, then I wrote a, a, apoem to my assistant principal
and I ain't get in trouble.
I ain't get in trouble for therest of the year.
Oh, it was called Sexy AssistantPrincipal.
Yo, got out.
Fish Rodriguez.
Love you.

perf (55:22):
Yo, that's crazy.

ray (55:25):
But, but who, when I didn't know what poetry was until I was
in school and they mentionedLangston Hughes.
I don't know if y'all been, Idon't know.
I think like that's the firstpart that like, that they bring
up when you were in there,right?
Yeah.
during this, but song was nice,like being older and to find out
not only did he write, poetry,like he also, novels, plays

(55:45):
grips.
talented.
Cool.
That's a fact.
do you fuck with poetry?
you fuck with?

perf (55:50):
Yeah.
Uh, I mean, um, it's notsomething that I would say I
actively seek out a lot, ofcourse, you know, before I,
before I started robbing, Iwould write poems, you know what
I'm saying?
Like, first, like starting aslike, you know, school
exercises, but when you firststart putting your rhymes
together, it's like a poem.
Cuz you don't really know how tostructure bars or count them or

(56:12):
anything like that, you knowwhat I'm saying?
So, yeah, I used to love, uh,Def Jam poetry when they had
that.
I was really mad when they likecut that serious.
I felt like that was like areally good like, platform.
Like, like you would see a lotof, um, deep people up there.
not even to bring up Kanye getmad, even like on his first
album, The poem, um, never letyou down.

(56:33):
Like, Oh yeah, stuff like thatis like push

ray (56:36):
the thought of Alexis.
That was a fire.
Here's so long that it lookedlike weave and she cut it all
off.
Now she looked like Eve and shebe dealing with some issues that
you can't

perf (56:46):
He just, Yeah.
Like, yeah bro.
Like I respect it.
It's an art that I don't reallyfeel like I'm that good at when
it really comes to like, Beinglike a writer.
Like, I feel like it reallytakes like some, a different
kind of creativity to put thattogether.
Let me show

ray (57:06):
you the power of words.
You're right.
But if you would've said, Yo, ifI wanted to write some poetry
shit, I can make it happen.
Like, that's, that's howpowerful it is.
Like no, definitely any is yourwishes, my command.
Like, bro, the bars you spit,you can spit some Kanye op
spoken word shit, and they'll befire.

(57:26):
I'm like confident.
I'm still, I still wanna dothat, man.
I feel like I'm not, I feel likeI haven't completed my, my
poetry.
Like I'm not, I'm, I stillconsider myself a poet, but I'm
not official until I eitherwrite a book or hit a poetry
slam.
And I, I ain't gonna, I've beenmy final sas, bro.
Let me tell you about my finalSAS I get excited to write them
and I try not to, bro, My finalSAS are supposed to be like

(57:49):
poetic but not rhyme.
And for some reason this yearall I hear is, Well, that's all
I'm hearing.
So I'm like, damn.
So, so when I'm, I'm sittingthere writing a final say, I'm
like, Damn, It's in my head.
I'm hearing a beat.
Like, I, I can't explain that.
I never, this never happened tome.

(58:09):
And my thing is, I don't likeputting words together just to
match.
I do the, I'll do the oppositeusually on the,

perf (58:18):
you feel me?
Oh,

ray (58:23):
Nah.
But like, honestly, like when I,we used to rap, I remember
putting lines together justcause I can just to keep, just
to be able to keep the punchlines, you know what I'm talking
about.
You know what you write?
Mm-hmm.
and you and they be like, damn,it's either I'm gonna use the
flow or the punchline gonna hitright here.
One of them.
It can't be both.
Sometimes it just can't be both.
I would just, Nah, that's afact.
I would take the punch linecause the cast bro cast was, had

(58:45):
me cast and Fab had me but Iwanted to mention Maya Angelo.
I don't know man.
I used to just love just to hearher speak.
I am grateful.
To be happy in lab and to beloud to now.
And to be able to nap.
'cause that liberates loveliberates.
Like she had so much, she had like, Like, I don't know,

(59:07):
like if I met her in anotherlife, or I don't know her words,
Cause they said words havevibrations.
Right?
And her words would just, I feellike they would connect to my
soul.
Man, you, you read some of herpoetry or the things that she
said.
Um, wow.
Yo and, and so gifted bro, yo,she was part of like the writing
behind a lot of shit that wasout for like 50 years.

(59:30):
My, and she was part ofsomething.
Some type of show, some type ofplay.
and it makes me think, I'm like,Yo, I can write poetry.
I can write a book.
I can write a play.
That's how I'm, If I can write apoem, I can write a play, I can
write a, I can write anything.
Right?
Right.

perf (59:46):
Is going right.

ray (59:46):
Writers is going right.
Yeah.
I ain't gonna find that.
I love the podcast.
I wanna also add author to myshit.
Like I really, it's hard writinga book, bro.
But, the book is like, I feellike when you drop a book, you
dead ass

perf (01:00:01):
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's some work.
That's some work.

ray (01:00:05):
Bad ass.
when I think about books, Ithink about like poor dad, rich
dads.
Mm-hmm.
first of all, I feel like whenyou serious about making bread,
that's when you read that bookuntil you not serious about
making bread.
If you haven't read that book,Wow.
Or, or at least put it on yourlist.
Like, all right, I'm gonna getinto it cuz you, It's crazy cuz
the words there like, Right, Yousee poor dad, Rich dad, all

(01:00:26):
right, what the fuck is hetalking about?
And his poor dad told him, Go toschool, follow the regular
route.
His rich dad told him, Nah, thisdude's out here getting money.
Cause they weren't about uss notliabilities.
Right?
Like what?
That shit opens a whole newworld.
Cause I'm, we're talkingconsumerism from early.
You do good.
You get this, you go this, youget this, something happens, you

(01:00:49):
buy this, you feel better whenyou got, when you got fresh, you
feel better.
So of course the first thing youwanna do is get the money.
But what the rich know is thatif they have assets, their
assets can pay for theirliabilities.
And they don't teach that inschool.
They don't teach that in thehood.

perf (01:01:05):
So it's in the hood, we're taught not even cut.
Not even cut you off.
That's so interesting you saidthat.
But in the hood, I feel like wetaught that certain liabilities
are assets Exactly.
Like where we grow up thinkinglike, like leasing a car or
renting an apartment is anasset.

(01:01:25):
Yeah.
But it's really, it is not.
So

ray (01:01:28):
it's like, it's really, its crazy.
Really.
Liability and, and even thinkingabout, Right.
All the dudes that like, I'mlike, Dude's worrying about
getting numbers like on theirbody count.
And I'm like, Yo, I would'vebeen worrying about getting my
numbers up on this bride.
Like, yo, I'm telling you bro,think about that.
You knew what you knew now at 21by the time you were where you

(01:01:49):
at now it's real estate.
It's all these things.
But now you do know and you wantto, like right now you wanna put
it out there, You gonna use yourwords, You wanna look out for 50
year old, you, right?
Right.
Because to me, 26 year old RAdidn't look out for 36 year old
ra.
I didn't,

perf (01:02:07):
yo, we always feel like you got Tom.
Yeah, that's the problem.
You always feel like you gotTom.

ray (01:02:11):
Yeah.
And to be honest, man, anxietyand depression comes from either
living in the past or living inthe future.
But when you live in the presentand do what you gotta do, now
you see why you went throughyour past and then you be able
to really visualize your future.
Cause being present and takingcare of what you gotta take of
now is so in the seeds is, isplanting them shits, Is is

(01:02:34):
building a foundation.
So when, you know what I'msaying?
When it all comes together, yousee why, and you see how, and I
feel like it starts from rightnow, not tomorrow.
Yesterday's yesterday.
We don't even know if it reallyexisted.
They could have put all ourmemories in today and we could
have thought we had yesterday

perf (01:02:51):
word.
Word.
That's a fact.
yeah.
Can't live in the past.

ray (01:02:55):
Can't live in the past.
Hell no.
but yeah, man, authors, they'reon porn to the culture and son,
there's dudes dropping knowledgethat, you know, the more of us
read this shit and put it in, infront of, you know, all people
we can join.
They can't, you know what Imean?
Can't stop that.
They can't stop that knowledge.
I

perf (01:03:14):
just spread that information.
I just spread that information.

ray (01:03:16):
Is there any book you suggest to anybody right now?

perf (01:03:19):
If you're into fashion and you, uh, either yeah, you wanna
start a clothing brand orsomething like that.
I really, I suggest to DapperDan biography.
it's a really, it's a reallygood book, just learning.
especially if you're from NewYork, you're into street where
you, that type of brand you'reinto just learning the different
transitions that, um, he wentthrough how to meet his demand,

(01:03:42):
Like the man went to Africa likethis, started from a trip in
Africa, you know what I'msaying?
He met a, um, a tailor and cameback.
he sold fur coats and thenseeing one person with a Louis
Vu tart bag, and it just changedeverything for him, you know
what I'm saying?
He started researching how toget the leather.

(01:04:03):
He used to actually took, backin the days they used to give
you shopping bags.
Louis Vut used to give youshopping bags to walk around the
store to buy items.
Mm-hmm.
what he used to do is that heused to go to the Louis Vuitton
store and buy all of theshopping bags cuz that was the
cheapest thing inside of thestore.
And he would take those, takethe fabric and then make clothes
out of'em.
That's crazy.

(01:04:23):
So just learning like hishustle, like how to work with
what you have, work with what'sout there, you know what I'm
saying?
Like he just has a reallyinteresting journey, you know
what I'm saying?
So I think that's a good readfor anybody that's trying to get
into the street wear game.

ray (01:04:38):
and uh, you have your own clothing line.

perf (01:04:41):
That's a fact.
Fly

ray (01:04:42):
poison.
I think it's dope, man.
You have a real unique, designand like you, I feel like you
bring the culture out, On, onyour clothes.
Thank

perf (01:04:50):
you, bro.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.

ray (01:04:52):
Appreciate that Earlier.
Check out the website, it'll beon the zone nose as well.
how did that stop you?
When did that idea come about?

perf (01:04:58):
Well the clothing line idea, it was something else I
used to call it just to kill.
It was an idea I came up witharound 2013, 14.
at first I was just making, Imade a few logos on Photoshop.
I went to the lid store, gotthem to put the logo inside of
the hat machine.

(01:05:19):
It was getting fitters made,little things like that.
And, um, I was using, um,something called Uber Prints,
uh, website where you can designt-shirts and hoodies and stuff
like that.
And I was, um, just ordering'emfor myself and my friends.
And, I did a photo shoot oneday.
I did a photo shoot with theitems oh yeah, I also had my
grandmother.

(01:05:39):
My grandmother was a seamstress.
So this is, that's what got meinto clothing.
Like I've been into clothingsince I was a kid.
Like my grandmother would seweverything, all kinds of
clothes, clothes, curtains,bedsheets.
She sold everything at home, youknow what I'm saying?
But in 2013, I got, I startedtaking it serious again.
The dress to kill thing kind offell through cause um, I was

(01:06:02):
having some health problems atthe time, so my finances got
kind of low.
I couldn't really fund it theway I wanted to.
Yeah, yeah.
But, um, when I got back toWeWork, I was, um, you know,
continuing to make littledesigns on my own.
And they actually, I got toWeWork around, I think I was
like 2018 or something likethat.
They had a T-shirt designcontest.

(01:06:22):
They asked me, one of mymanagers asked me to enter, and
it was, um, like a WeWorkT-shirt design, contest.
It involved everybody in it, Tristate.
I competed in that contest andwon.
So once I won the contest, I waslike, All right, Like the way
people responded, like, youknow, a lot of, if you, if
anybody's familiar with WeWork,they used to use a, a program
named Slack.

(01:06:43):
So you almost had access to likethe whole company at your
fingertips.
So when I used to put thepictures on Slack, I was getting
like hundreds of like,engagements, likes and comments
and all that kind of stuff likethat.
People all over the countrytelling me that it was good, I
should keep going.
from that point I just, oh shit,I started from scratch.
I was like, All right, I gottafind out what I gotta do to do

(01:07:05):
this over and do it myself.
So I went, um, bought a heatpress, a simple printer, the
homemade way, started gettingmore familiar with vinyls, went
and bought a, a crafting cuttercricket.
After that.
I was like off to the races.
I made my first, collection,probably like summer 2019 or
something like that, or spring2019, or I think around

(01:07:28):
summertime.
And again, where we worked thatused to give you access to
conference rooms all over thecity for free.
As long as you work there.
Yeah, I do that.
I used to run out the conferencerooms, do popup shops.
I did around three popup shops.
it worked, It would help mebuild like a little reputation.
It helped me build, um, theconfidence in doing it.

(01:07:49):
just to try the tribulations,seeing what works, seeing what
doesn't work, trying to appealto different kind of people.
I just kept it going from there.
The pandemic happened,everything got slow, started
selling mass, got went crazy,next summer came around, I
started doing these shorts,these basketball shorts, and
they start going crazy.
So I just been keeping going,just putting out different

(01:08:11):
collections, seeing what works,seeing what doesn't work.
It's a passion thing.
So I don't mind spending andlike money and time on it,
honestly.

ray (01:08:19):
And that's, that's fire man.
And yeah, like, I, like I said,like I mentioned earlier, the,
the designs is different and youcould tell like, I don't know,
you got like that, that designertouch, like I can't compare you
to anything else.
So I can imagine, you know whatI'm saying?
The more you optimize thebusiness and scale it up keep
bringing those designs, it'sonly a matter of time,

perf (01:08:39):
man.
Thank you bro.
I appreciate that man.
I you wearing, you wearing thenight your shirt right now.
So Brooklyn, you know what I'msaying?
I appreciate that.
What up

ray (01:08:50):
Yeah, we lost to the Astros.
Fuck y'all

perf (01:08:56):
Facts.
You got rep, you gotta rap.
Yeah, man.
Got a rap bro.

ray (01:09:00):
We're gonna have the clothing line and the show
notes.
yeah man, I want him to share,you know, his story, um, he's on
his entrepre shit.
Mm-hmm.
be dope.
when his, his, uh, line blow upand he was like, Yo, I spoke
about it first hand.
Yo,

perf (01:09:15):
That's a fact, bro.
That's a fact,

ray (01:09:18):
bro.
Words don't powerful, man.
Yo, this episode gotta have somuch, like I said this, I said
this, and then, you know, keepthe focus on it so we can do
another episode in the future.
Like I'm talking about, youknow, two, three years.
Like, yo, look, everything wespoke about I said should blow
up.
I said when I'm the, when I'mfinding checks, like million,
you know, a hundred milliondollars or like, uh, Gilia and,

(01:09:41):
and so I always forget his name.

perf (01:09:42):
Hell yeah, bro.
We gonna be doing businesstogether, man.
You already know.
Oh yeah.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah, man.

ray (01:09:48):
I'm all over the place.
Yo.
The podcast, um, I'm thepodcaster, the editor, the
market.
The researcher.
I got like 10 fucking jobs rightnow.
Yo.

perf (01:09:58):
Yo.
You gotta wear all the hats,bro.
Starting the business, right?
Tough bro.
You gotta wear all the hats.
People don't understand that.
A lot of people don't understandthat.

ray (01:10:08):
Yeah.
If, if it don't make you, if younot wearing all the hats in the
beginning, then that means youstarted with a lot of money and
you knew about the outsourcingshit.
But I can't wait.
So I can outsource my videosthat all I can, all I have to do
is podcasts.
I can't wait for that.

perf (01:10:26):
Yo, I feel you.
I say the same thing bro.

ray (01:10:30):
Like, you know what I mean?
So I can like really enjoy like,Right.
You want to work like more timeyou have, the more time you have
for creativity.
I gotta catch my creativity onthe run.
Cause I, I always got somethingto do.
But like I'm talking about whenI'm watching tv, I know in the
back of my mind you like, Yo,you gotta finish that episode.
Like fuck word.
but yeah man, to get back on thewords, to wrap it up, words

(01:10:51):
shape all reality.
You say positive shit, you gottagive us some time.
And not everything's gonna bepositive, but the more positive
you talk, the more positive youthink.
I, I feel like it's a thingwhere it goes like seven out of
10 times you're gonna get it.
that's not bad.
Cuz if you talk negative, you'regonna get it too.
It's gonna just be luck to me.
Like you just.

(01:11:11):
You, you just rolling the diceinstead of Right.
You know, like, um, like I sawthis video, he's like, yo,
people are praying wrong.
They're like, begging God, orlike, Nah, command that shit.
It's yours.
Like, it's a big world andeverybody's on they Right.
And you gotta call it out.
Say it, be it, live it.

(01:11:33):
Your words make you who you are.
Right.
Like, like, like certain, likewords tell you all you need to
know about a person.
They can tell you if they'reconfident.
It if they're brave, I can'teven speak to somebody and could
tell that they're not organized.
Mm-hmm.
Just cause I'm not thatorganized.
So I'm like, Yo, you talkinglike me?
Dope.

perf (01:11:53):
word.
Picking up the cues, man.

ray (01:11:57):
you know, there's certain people like, they don't like
that you are who you hang outwith, Right?
if you hang out with friendsthat just talk about the same
shit, like, don't get me wrong,I'm not saying stop hanging out
with them.
I'm just saying like, what ifyou feeling good, mighty, and
then someone just brings you.
To how, like something like howyou used to be or how you, or
before you evolved.

(01:12:17):
Right.
Cause you know, it's not, not,not all of us learn our lesson
at the same time or gettingenlightened at the same time.
So, you know what I mean?
I feel like it's up to you tokind of try to, but it's only so
much you can do.
But if you like, I don't wannatalk about bullshit.
Like, I don't wanna talk abouthow we can't do it or we didn't
do it, or we had the chance ofwhat coulda should have.
I don't wanna talk about what,what coulda should have just

(01:12:39):
done.
I wanna talk about what could wedo right now?
What can you do to not have thisconversation no more.
What could we do to have thisconversation in Jamaica?
Or, you know what I'm saying?
We can meet somewhere cause wewe Boston in the sixth.
Like, fuck you talking

perf (01:12:53):
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
You need people in that samewavelength, man.
Cause people that sound on thatsame wavelength, they, they tend
to feel like distractions.
Mm-hmm.
from that focus.
So it's good to be withlike-minded individuals, people
that really, Yeah.
About the same shit that you on,even if it's not the same exact
thing, but still on that path offocus.

(01:13:14):
So y'all can relate some way,you know what I'm saying?

ray (01:13:17):
Cause to keep it a buck, it take a different kind of person.
Entrepreneurship is harder thana.
It's, it's the most uncertainthing that you can ever do,
right?

perf (01:13:32):
Bruh?
Tell me about it.

ray (01:13:34):
Well, you know, for a great reward, it doesn't come without
risk.
It doesn't come withoutsacrifice.
That's true.
And as I'm saying, it's verytrue.
These words, picture thesewords, you see that word?
Sacrifice, risk, reward,accomplishment, challenge,
overachiever.
I'm looking for that word,right?
Like, you know the world whenyou beat the fucking fine

(01:13:56):
defiance, perseverance,relentless What I mean word
unfuck.
I won't even like unstoppablecuz it got stoppable in it.
Like, I like that avalanche.
Avalanche takes everything inthis path where I gotta stop
listening to this guy.
What's his name?
Something Koji.
This he be getting, he be like,That's all you gonna say,

(01:14:17):
motherfucker.
That's all you

perf (01:14:18):
got.
But

ray (01:14:22):
not.
But the truth is, fromeverything we spoke about, your
words, choose your faith.
you ever hear, you ever hear ofa self-fulfilling prophylactic?
Nah, I got that.
I got that for the George Lopezshow.
It's self-fulfilling prophecy.
Mm.
Think about that.
I hope this doesn't happen.
I hope this doesn't happen.
And it happens.

(01:14:42):
Self-fulfilling prophecy.
So, you know, be careful whatyou saying.
Act like your words.
Think about if your wish was mycommand, right?
Was life.
So if you say, like, if you wakeup and like, Oh, I'm gonna have
a, I'm gonna have a bad fuckingday.
Guess what?
Life's gonna be like, ah, yourwish is my command.
Oh, life city, your wish is mycommand.

(01:15:03):
Right.
So, literally the, the sameenergy it takes to be negative
to switch it.
And I'm, I'm talking fromExperie bro.
Like, I almost ended thepodcast.
I almost changed the name I wentthrough.
I go through something like, cuzit's, it's not where like I was
having a conversation and I wasasked about my numbers and when
I did the math I was like, yo, Ineed to reconsider if I'm gonna

(01:15:24):
keep going.
Like it, it did one of thosethings.
But I was like, not that I wouldreconsider if I was gonna quit
the podcast, just how I wasgonna do it.
Mm-hmm.
like, I'm thinking about, I'vebeen thinking about changing the
name or like mixing up more.
Cause you see this season I wentall over the.
But what I notice, niches are inthe riches, right?
And that's how you get returncustomers or return people

(01:15:47):
because they know they cancounter you with this one thing.
And the more they count you onthat one thing, the more they
know that, cuz you think aboutit, right?
If you go to a doctor that hespecializes in next, and then
you got a doctor that's all overthe place, he's good at this, he
good at that, I'm gonna go tothe, the specialist.
has one thing to focus on,right?
I feel like that's why theniches and the riches make sense

(01:16:08):
to me now.
So now I'm gonna try to switchit up a little bit, but that's
what it is.
You wanna quit.
I feel like if you don't wannaquit, you don't, you not working
hard enough,

perf (01:16:16):
Nah, that's a fact.
But that, that, that's, that's apart of it.
Analyzing that data, going backto the drawing board and just
seeing what you can probably dodifferently to like hit your
target audience.
Like, it's tough, bro.
Like it, it is tough.
I have the same struggles.
Know what I'm saying?
But

ray (01:16:37):
entrepreneur life, man.
what are things we could doright to use the power to
advantage of, of the word,right.
I think first and foremost themost important thing is your
self.
It's important how you talk toyourself.
Not that you crazy, but thethoughts in your head of what
you can do and what you'recapable of should always be on
what you want it to be, not whatyou think over somebody else

(01:16:57):
says.
So,

perf (01:16:59):
I agree.
I agree.

ray (01:17:01):
How's

perf (01:17:02):
yourself talk, man?
Shit man.
I try to look myself in themirror every day and just say
something positive.
Like every day we get up and uh,we just keep going.
Sometimes you just gotta get up,look yourself in the mirror and
say something positive.
Look yourself in the eyes, likekeep saying it until you can see
the truth in your eyes, you knowwhat I'm saying?

(01:17:22):
Like, and try to fill yourselfwith those kind of words too.
Fill yourself with words likethat, that's similar.
So don't try to, There's nothingwrong with, you know, putting a
little bit of BS in Saudi, yourmental, but for the most part,
like you said, try to keep agood mental health diet where
you try to feed yourselfpositive things, feed yourself

(01:17:43):
things, people saying similarthings that you want to hear,
and you go out and, you know,say your own version of those
things and try to make thatbecome reality.
That's a

ray (01:17:53):
fact, man.
It's all about vibrations, man.
Like vibrations affecteverything.
So when you putting that outthere, like yo, you know, you
that dude, or you can accomplishthat or you can accomplish that.
You just, you sending it to thehigher power, whatever it is
that got us all connected.
and it is crazy cuz all religionor, or any other type of thing,
it just gives it a differentname, right?

(01:18:15):
To, you know, to religion.
It's God, it's a spiritualhigher power, science negative,
positive, right?
To, I forgot what, but thenthere's good and this bad,
right?
Mm-hmm.
you just gotta be responsiblefor focus on the good, the
badest part of you.
Right?
We, we all the, the ying and theyang, we are balance.
Ain't nobody, ain't nobody hereperfect.

(01:18:35):
Ain't nobody trying to beperfect cuz perfection is just
leads you to disappointmentbecause the best shit happens
sometimes outta mistakes out ofthe risk we take.
So, Right.

perf (01:18:46):
Somebody told me, I put this in my rhyme too.
perfection is enemy or the good,you know what I'm saying?
Cause they always, there'snothing wrong being good at
something.
Everybody always strive to beperfect.
Yeah.
But it's pretty good to be goodat something like if you're just
good at something.
So it's like striving to beperfect and kind of like take

(01:19:06):
you away.
From just being good.
Or you might not even realizethat you're, you're just good at
something.
You're not even appreciatingthat because you're trying to be
perfect.
So I like that line.
Perfectionist, enemy of

ray (01:19:19):
the good That's fine.
It may.
Yeah.
Cuz it might make you, you'regood.
That's better than a lot of, youknow, other people's best.
you won't see it cuz you thinkit's not good enough cuz you're
comparing it to the ununcomparable.
Right?

perf (01:19:31):
Right.

ray (01:19:32):
affirmations, since your mind doesn't know the difference
between fantasy and reality,might as well just keep saying,
you know, have, you know, haveyour shit written.
Now when, for me, when kl restconfirmed an affirmation, like
when he, he had a saying that,he says that you say to yourself
whenever you feel a certain way,but you think about it, man, the
only reason you don't feel likeit work is because you told

(01:19:54):
yourself consistently that itdidn't.
So flip the switch, it doeswork.
Wow.
You are great.
You are amazing.
Think about that.
Like, if you tell yourselfyou're amazing a hundred times a
day, bro.
But like, but like the second,third week you going to.
You gonna wake up feeling likeMary Poppins?
Dude, you go nigga.

(01:20:15):
You gonna be flying dude.
You like, oh

perf (01:20:17):
shit.
Word.
Yeah, the bro, you gottayourself up, you feel me?
Gotta yourself up.

ray (01:20:27):
Affirmations, look into them.
Let those words define you.
Don't, and don't put likeexample, if you wanna quit
smoking, don't put, quitsmoking.
Put, I wanna live a healthylife.
Don't put, I just want money.
No, I wanna be a billionaire.
Fuck that.
Fuck a fuck a millionaire, bro.
Inflation is inflation.
Don't care about nobody.

(01:20:48):
So I'm even Fort Billy.
Be, and I'm not trying to be noBillionaire Boys' Club a boy.
I'm not trying to be noBillionaire Boys Club.
I'm a grown ass man.
Men's Club

perf (01:21:00):

ray (01:21:02):
Gonna have some, you know, men's club festivity, you know
what I'm saying?
You just, you know, just sex I'mjust playing.
I just playing babe.
I be playing

perf (01:21:15):
for the adults

ray (01:21:18):
Yeah, man.
And then I think, one dope shitis having your own personal
mission statement.
I read about it in the SevenHabits, it identifies who you
are or your team, what yourpurposes are, and what you
aiming to accomplish.
Mm-hmm.
So if you have something thatlike, you know what I mean?
Like, like one is like, yo, nomatter what, you know what I'm

(01:21:39):
saying?
I strive, um, my podcast is thebest out.
You know, like I, I mean, I'mtrying to freestyle it right
now, but it's who you are, whatyou aim to do, you, you read it
out loud every day.
And there's certain companiesthat you probably didn't even
notice that have it.
Um, like Jet JetBlue has one, Alot of companies.

(01:22:03):
Apple, not only like, I thinkJet Blue is like not only being
in touch in the sky, but withhumanity, some shit.
So I hope y'all got the pointabout, you know, the things you
could do.
It's a lot, it's just a lot ofreinforcement and repetition,
man.
But, if my was listening to thisright now and they're like, yo
perf saying that shit.

(01:22:24):
I want to hear his, how he spit?
I want to hear how he wrapped.
I wanted to buy his clothes.
Cause Ray shirt is fire and thecolor looks pretty good on him.
That's what my girl tells me.
back in the dayAnd.
I gotta chill

perf (01:22:39):
out man.

ray (01:22:44):
you about to get that text, but yeah.
so tell'em where they can findyou website when the album
dropping.

perf (01:22:51):
you already know you can find me on ig.
My IG is the real Perth peche.
my clothing line IG is flyunderscore poison.
The link is in a bio for thewebsite for both of those.
The link is in a bio,, album onthe way it's gonna come out, um,
next month.
It's called the JavaScript.
Be on the lookout for that.

(01:23:11):
My EP is already out html,that's everywhere.
Spotify, Apple Music, everythinglike that.
Figure it out.
All bangers.
Yo.
Good looking, good looking bro.
Hell yeah.
I can't wait for you to hearthis new shit man.
But yeah, gonna follow me man.
The real Perpe.
Oh yeah.
Perpetually on TikTok too.
I'm on TikTok all the time now.

(01:23:32):
I'm trying to make that a reallygood habit of mine.
It's kind of fun.
Yeah, I found the fun in it.
Yeah,

ray (01:23:37):
it's too, I'm trying to get into it, man.
But yeah, man, make sure youcheck him out, man.
like I said, you gonna see him.
I've been following him since hestarted the the line and I've
just been seeing it evolve andget better.
So like, no pun intended, but Ican't wait to see what he got in
store.

perf (01:23:52):
Ah, Yo.
Thank you bro.
Thank you bro.
Appreciate it man.
And yo, thank you for having meon the show, man.
Like this is lit, bro.
I remember, I remember youtelling me this was a idea, man.
You came a long way from anidea, you feel me?
I know,

ray (01:24:07):
man.
And the words put into existenceas you can see, man.
And we, we made this classic.
and I wanna thank you, man.
Like I said it in the show, man,you, you're one of the, the
supporters that, that keep megoing.
And I, I did an episode earlyand I told them, I said, You
wanna know something crazy?
You wanna know, like, besidesthe guests that I have on my
show that I don't know the onlypeople that make it to the show.

(01:24:28):
Cause right now you're co-hostedwith me pretty much.
Mm-hmm.
So the people that I have cohosting is, uh, who is who I
feel support me the most.
That even though your name mightnot be on the show, you part of
the show, you feel what I'msaying?
Word.
That's a fact.
Yeah.
Cuz if it wasn't for like, Yo,keep going.
Yo, yo, this episode was fire.
Like, sometimes in the beginningyou need just at least I'm

(01:24:51):
sorry, you, you could be onsolo, but just sometimes one
person, telling you somethingthat you ain't here that whole
day can make a whole difference.
So I wanna thank you for that,man.
And

perf (01:25:03):
you already know, man,

ray (01:25:04):
actually the heart.
Yeah man.
Appreciate and I seeing youhustle.
Seeing you, you know what Imean?
Go turn it from an idea where Iremember seeing the emails where
you was gonna be on Slack, thatyou was gonna be on the shop to
see you.
Now, where you at with it nowand you growing it and well,
sky's the limit man.

(01:25:24):
I I see you being, uh, you knowwhat I mean?
You could be an entrepreneurclothing line with a following.
Millions of people.
Cause that's what you wanna do.
You don't really want to be therecord label dude.
You want to get your old followand just drop like right.
Like Fatboy.
I don't like his songs likethat, but he, people buy his
shit cuz they, he has afollower, you know what I mean?
Even though that he flew up, yousaw the song that he flew that

(01:25:46):
shows Yeah man.
Keep doing your thing.
We support you in the Raymundoshow.
Like I said, you part of thefamily, you part of the support
squad.

perf (01:25:59):
Oh day

ray (01:26:00):
bro.
Of course, of course.
Keep doing your thing.
And like, again, I want you onthis, I want, I want the episode
I want us to be on next time is,yo, the show we spoke about, it

perf (01:26:09):
happened.
Word, words, Shit gonna looklike Aen.
We gonna do shit in

ray (01:26:14):
Brooklyn.
We gonna find a studio inBrooklyn.
Hell yeah.
Aen.
Yo It's funny you said Aen is mymore yo to be a talk show host
Aen, bro.
Like word, you know what I'msaying?
Monto I go for, I gotta throwRichard Bay in there.
Richard Bay was wilding back inthe thing.
That's what, Yeah man.

(01:26:35):
Yeah man.
Like I said, wish you the bestin everything man.
And, and

perf (01:26:38):
yo, same here man.
I appreciate it bro.
Anything you need from me, youalready know man.
Just hit me up.
We link up man.
You already.
Damn

ray (01:26:48):
man.
We got, we gotta smoke a split.
You on the bli yo.

perf (01:26:52):
Anytime.
Anytime.
You know that

ray (01:26:55):
a little, a little freestyle, you

perf (01:26:57):
know what I mean?
Word or anytime man time,

ray (01:27:01):
man, I won't catch you off guard next time.
That's what I'll be doing.
Like when, if I know you rideyo, I be like, yo, I'll put the
beat on.
Like, let's go

perf (01:27:07):
word.
And, and its, it's crazy causeI, I got some, I wrote to that
beat but I just don't evenremember it and I didn't even
wanna like, come on, it probablythrew you off.
Right.
Yeah.
Like I love that beat though.
That's my shit.
I always wanted

ray (01:27:20):
to rap off that beat, bro.
So it was like, ah, why not?

perf (01:27:23):
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah, bro.
This shit was lit, bro.

ray (01:27:27):
Definitely.
I appreciate you being on theshow back till next time.

perf (01:27:31):
All right bro.
Peace out y'all.

(01:28:33):
Choose your words wisely.
What you say is contagious.
Words that an Isley brothers.
Even when you cystocele.
The stutter you send avibration.
you still can't see it.
Come on.
Be use your imagination.
Just picture yourself in asituation.
Where you no longer tripping,but now your life is a vacation.
And how you feel was way pastthe sky, like a space station.

(01:28:54):
And there's never a problem.
Getting the latest PlayStation.
Hey, Hey.
Whereas say reality, gotta becautious who you let in your
circle.
Hurt people don't realize.
That it's in their nature tohurt you.
Patience is a virtue.
Whereas become things, butusually.
It starts off on how you think.
Like your Instagram app, yourbrain got a filter, so you can
focus on the things that willhelp heal your soul.

(01:29:17):
Mine only, you know whathappiness looks like.
You're the one that chooses thedesign.
Metaphysical Keep that in mind.
Next time you want some negativeshit, speak, power, speak
greatness.
C'mon young blood talk.
That It's amazing how you canhave a sentence that could make
you go from Bailey show went upto perfect attendance.

(01:29:38):
I got to fake it till you makeit.
So you no longer pretending.
And even if you will champ, younever stop consenting.
Chill.
Finished the show.
I like to thank y'all forjoining me.
On another episode, whether thisis your first time.
Or another time.
I appreciate you.
I like the thing perf Peshy forcoming through when.

(01:29:59):
Blessing us with his knowledge.
And wisdom.
He had a lot of dope shit tosay.
he's definitely tapping into hisgreatness.
And using his words.
To get where he wants to be inlife.
we should all do the same, man.
Watch what you say?
Because God, the universe.
They always listening.
So.
May show you talk about what youwant.

(01:30:19):
And don't say nothing about whatyou don't like is that simple.
But so next time, peace.
Love.
Window out

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