Fri Episode #2158: The David Knight Show Unabridged - 12/12/2025 - The REAL David Knight Show

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
In a world of deceits, telling the truth is a
revolutionary act.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's the David Knight Show. As the clock strike thirteen,
It's Friday, the twelfth of December, Year of Our Lord,
twenty twenty five. Well, it's kind of interesting. The person
of the year essentially AI according to Time, not exactly AI.

(01:00):
They didn't want to call AI a person. So what
they do is they cowtow and praise the Silicon Valley
technocrat billionaires who are creating this abomination. And it appears
that there's echoes of the art elect war. Remember that
from Hugo to Garris, we said, once people figure out
what these guys are up to with artificial intelligence, we

(01:20):
will have the art elect war. They know people will
come after them. Well, there's a couple of issues that
show this. First of all, Trump's mania to make sure
that there can be no regulation or control of anything
having to do with AI at a state or local level.
But now they're talking about moving their data centers to space.
How about the next galacy? Let's not stop in their

(01:44):
Earth orbit, Let's just keep going. Okay, But we'll also
going to talk about NATO pushing hard for World War three.
That's right, the prime minister, former prime minister who tried
to starve on people in Europe by shutting down the
bread basket of the EU, and now he's a leader

(02:07):
of NATO. So we had a lot to talk about today.
Let's begin, however, with the news, just general news. The
NDAA passed, and it tells us a great deal about
the state of the Republican Party because we had a
lot of people who've had very strong concerns about things
that were in it and things that were not in it,

(02:29):
and so this was told by them was going to
be a ticket or leave it bill. You had Mike
Johnson doing the bidding of Trump, and all the GOP
doing the bidding of Mike Johnson except for Thomas Massey.
What did the people who said they were going to
push back against this, What do they have a problem
with this? Well, they had a problem with the I

(02:55):
think something wrong with the video, Travis. It looks okay.
They had a problem with CBDC as well as more
money for the Ukraine War and many other foreign aid
issues that were there. But they wound up caving handful
of lawmakers who questioned that you had Marjorie Taylor Green,

(03:19):
you had. Thomas Massey was the only one who continued
on with it, but the rest of them caved when
they when the bush came to shove, so they passed
the NDAA. The Conservative group had railed against it for
various reasons, the omission of a prohibition that would ban
permanently CBDC, also the authorization of four hundred million dollars

(03:43):
in new security assistance for Ukraine. So the only person
who stuck to that was Thomas Massey. Had other people
who had issues with it, Marjorie Taylor Green and Polina Luna,
Tim Burchett of Tennessee, Josh Breeching of Oklahoma, and several others.
It's about a dozen people. They were the ones who

(04:04):
had spoken out on this, but they all in the
end did what they were told by Mike Johnson and
Donald Trump. Even Marjorie Taylor Green, who was retiring and
who has called a Trump out on so many issues,
she didn't stick to her guns. Just remember this when
she starts running for the next thing she's going.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
To run for.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Burchett said, taxpayer dollars flowing to the Taliban, And imagine
that you Republicans had that in their bill going to
still pay money to the Taliban, and so Marco Rubio said, well,
well we'll cut that off. He goes, okay, well then
I'll vote for it.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Right.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I don't care if it's got CBDC in it or
money to Ukraine. I just don't want to send money
to the Taliban.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
You know, until Trump had this spat with the Colombian president,
the place where most of the cocaine comes from was
getting subsized by the American government, just like we protected
the poppy fields and subsidize them in Afghanistan while we
were having an opioid up and they make here at home.

(05:08):
You know, don't pay attention to that, right, I tell you,
I look back at what has happened, especially with twenty twenty,
all the Republicans who were so upset about Trump, so
upset that they would go on January the sixth, and
it's like, where have you people been for all of
twenty twenty? Did you put your face masks that he
wanted everybody to wear? Did you put those over your eyes?

(05:29):
Were you blindfolded and blind what the guy did for
the last year that you could vote for him again?
And yet you know, this is the kind of thing
in the National Defense Authorization Act. We're giving money to
the Taliban. Imagine that. And at the last minute Marco
Ribio pulls that out. All what else is in there? Well,
the CBDC issue, they had to stop with that because

(05:53):
Elizabeth Warren didn't like it in the Senate. So the
House says, well, we know Elizabeth Warren is going to
push back against that. Fine, let's have that fight. Let's
talk about CBDC. You know, take on it. They're afraid
to take on Elizabeth Warren. No wonder they cave to
everything that Trump tells them. They can't even fight Elizabeth Warren.
How useless are they. She's nothing but the tool of

(06:15):
big banks, and that would certainly expose what she is
if they wouldn't have that fight. But they just gave
up their big tactical advantage. Meanwhile, you have Luna says, well,
the House is going to go to war with the
Senate over that. Later on, we're going to have a
separate bill about that. Well, they gave up their big

(06:38):
tactical advantage. The issue is that everybody piles everything into
the NBAA because it is a must pass bill. That's
what funds the military and they're not going to go
against that. So if you get something included in there,
it's pretty much going.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
To get passed.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
So they gave up their biggest loverage right there to
get this pass. It isn't going to pass. Conservative lawmakers
excoriate the NDAA despite the White House coming out and
support the defense policy. Tuesday Evening, Daily callers said that
Trump quote strongly supports this year's Marquis Defense Bill, and

(07:16):
that was it. So the conservatives don't like it, but
Trump strongly supports it. That's because Trump's not a conservative,
never has been. He's a New York City Democrat, a globalist.
He's not a conservative. So it is going to codify
more than a dozen of Trump's executive orders. Now I

(07:39):
looked him up. Yea, it is more than a dozen.
It's fifteen actually, DEI for the most part, and things
about militarizing the border and in general. I got to say,
I mean, I'm on record and I still agree in
principle with it. I just have some real issues after
what I have seen them doing this year in terms

(08:00):
of coming right up to the edge and crossing right
up to the line and crossing over the line when
it comes to Passikomatatis. And so I had said, you know,
Trump wants to end the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
He said, bring all the troops home and just put
them at the border. They don't even have to really
do anything except just be there as a deterrent. But
they're not talking about that. And as this was put

(08:24):
into the NDAA and codified, you now have a Trump
saying that he's going to set up military zones at
the border as well. So I'm having some concerns about
the way he's going to execute this. The devil is
in the details. So Marjorie Tellergreen criticized this week the bill,

(08:45):
citing provisions authorizing security assistance to a variety of foreign countries,
including Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. And I don't know if
I talked about this yesterday. Did I talk about this
about Taiwan yesterday?

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Travis?

Speaker 2 (08:57):
The fact that they have war gamed this over and
over again. And even Pete Hegseth, when he was a
Fox News contributor, was talking about how we did not
have the ability to defeat China if there was a
war over Taiwan. And when he was talking about it,
a few years ago. The issue was that China had
a lot of resources in the area obviously, and could

(09:22):
overwhelm things, and they could produce a lot of very
cheap things like drones for example. We've talked about this.
You know, the US is aspiring to get its strong
production up to a few hundred thousand a year, while
China is manufacturing over eight million terms a year. So
there's things like that, and that tends to neutralize your

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technological advantage and the complex weapons systems that you have.
Just go back and look at World War Two. You know,
the Nazis had jet airplanes that had Panzer tanks are
very advanced in that type of thing, but they didn't
have that any of them. You know, we had Sherman
tanks that were not that. You know, one on one
between a Sherman tank and a panzer, it's going to

(10:07):
go to the panzer. But if you've got a swarm
of Sherman tanks that are out there, that can work.
And so that's where we were a few years ago.
But now China has hypersonic missiles.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
We don't.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
We don't have a defense against them either, And so
the bottom line is is that would be even more
devastating right now. So they want to keep pushing and
pushing against these things that they can't really win. They
won't have a war that they can't win, and so
you know they're going to fund Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan.

(10:45):
The retiring member Marjorie Taylor Green also criticized House up
leadership for failing to secure a CBDC ban in the NDAA,
which leadership had promised us Mike Johnson. They had promised
Conservatives that they would do that in exchange for supporting
landmark cryptocurrency legislation back in July. Mike Johnson just keeps

(11:07):
lying to his own people, as you vote for this
cryptocurrency thing, and we'll make a permanent ban for CBDC
in the NDAA, And now he's not doing it. Republican
privacy hawks, a privacy hawk, anybody that's pushing back against
total surveillance police state argued that a central bank digital

(11:29):
currency could grant the federal government widespread surveillance over Americans
financial transactions. Well, that's its very purpose. So and by
the way, that's why the leadership Mike Johnson doesn't want
to ban it. They want that. But nevertheless, she caved
and she voted for it. As usual, he didn't keep

(11:52):
his promise. It's not on the end the NDAA, so
the CBDC loophole remains, and as usual, she votes for
it in spite of criticizing it. Another example here, Texas
Representative Keith self introduced an amendment to reinstate the CBDC
ban into the NDAA, but the House Rules Committee did

(12:13):
not advance the measure. He said, we Conservatives have been
forced into a take it or leave it bill that
breaks that promise. Without that language, I'm inclined to leave it,
but he voted for it anyway. This is why I say,
you know, when you get them to get you to
fall in line with the Gellian dialectic, these two parties

(12:36):
are playing you.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
They're playing you.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
This is just like when they have a dog and
pony hearing about some subject that they never do anything
about it. They don't come after the people who broke
the law. They don't change any laws. It's always the
same thing. Rand Paul said that when it comes to
the Senate he will oppose the NDAA because of these issues. Really,
you've only got Tom Massey and and Paul, both of

(13:01):
them out of Kentucky. We are going to stick to
their principles and vote against this bill that's kind of
these bad things in it. He said, this bill is
not America. First, there's now assistance for Ukraine tens of
millions of dollars. In spite of Trump's demands for his
statements that he wants peace, he's pushing for more money

(13:23):
for Ukraine.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
What's going on with that?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
It's just constantly so there's fifteen order, most of the
area getting get out, which which is good as going
right up to the limit of the board order and

(13:46):
perhaps over what he gets there, compilating Mexico border now
playing order this time as part of the relationship that
me Mexico like like never before, and again in principle,

(14:09):
I would favor that, and practice will have to see
exactly what that looks like.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
The move places long stretches of the border under the
supervision of nearby military bases, empowering US troops to detain
people who enter the country illegally and side step of
law prohibiting military involvement and civilian law enforcement. Just remember
that the Border Patrol claims jurisdiction within the first one
hundred miles of the border. So if they're going to

(14:35):
put the military in there to do border control work,
does that mean we're going to have martial law within
the first around one hundred miles of the border all
the way around the country. That's what really concerns me.
It's done under the authority of the National Emergency on
the Border, declared by Trump on his first day in office,
but now that has been codified in this NDAA. The

(14:57):
military strategy was pioneered in April along a one hundred
and seventy miles stretch of the border in New Mexico,
later expanded to portions of the border in Texas and Arizona.
Now it will be in California. We moved to tariffs.
Trump's claim on China soybean purchases is not backed up
by the day that this is amazing. I had not
even seen the bogus claim, But so talk about the

(15:21):
obvious lies with Venezuela. This is another example what he's
saying about the terriffs. He is saying that, you know,
Caroline love It said China wasn't doing this, wasn't buying
soybean under the last administration because they had no respect
for President Biden or for the country at the time.

(15:42):
And so now after Trump came in and for the
second time shut off soybean purchases from China completely in
retaliation for his tariffs, he's the one who shut them off,
and so now he's claiming victory because he's getting the
tap turned back on. The amount that they pledged to
purchase is one half of what had typically been purchased,

(16:07):
one half of what was under the Biden administration. And
the numbers don't lie, Trump lies. So, as they point
out this reason article, a broader problem with Trump's trade
policies is that the farmers' fates are tied to the
occupant of the White House. Shouldn't farmers be able to
depend on global export markets without waiting for the American

(16:27):
president and his Chinese counterpart to strike a deal. So
the facts are and travis in this article. There is
a chart where people can see the soybean exports to
China since twenty seventeen. Since twenty seventeen, America has exported
more than twenty two million metric tons of soybeans to

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China every year except for two years. Those years, the
first one was in twenty eighteen, when China cut off
purchases in response to Trump's tariffs targeting American imports Chinese goods.
The second was this year when China the same thing
at chart, so that for the most part, it's well

(17:09):
all above twenty seventeen. When you took the office, it
was thirty two, and then it dropped to eight, and
then went back up two, and then went about thir
thirty again thirty thirty four and twenty, and then throughout
the Biden administration went twenty seven, thirty, twenty six, twenty six.

(17:33):
Then it dropped to six in retaliation of the terraffs. Again,
that's what Trump has done with his tariffs.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Uh so.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Uh Caro lying love it comes out and says that
they weren't buying soybeans under under Biden. Well, exactly the
opposite is true.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
And as.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
You know, it's a new American point it out when
they were talking about what's going on NATO. They said,
you have to understand that just because the Russians say
it doesn't mean that it's untrue, and just because America
says it doesn't make it true or Trump or anybody else.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
And the same thing is.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
True of this just because it was under Biden. He
left that alone. And it's Trump who goes to war
with him, who hurts them with us. So again, they
don't want a free stuff, said one of the people
of the soybean farmer. They just want free trade where

(18:35):
they can make the deals themselves, get Washington out of it.
And it's not just the soybean farmers. This is a
problem across the board. This is something that's affecting all manufacturing,
all retail. The deal that Trump recently struck with Chinese
President Shijiping calls for China to purchase twelve million metric

(18:56):
tons of soybean annually. Yes, that means that the deal
that Trumps hailed as tremendous quote unquote would result in
American farmers selling less than half as many soybeans as
they did during the Biden years. Even that total is
unlikely to materialize. Treasury Secretary Bessett and US Trade Representative
Greer have recently tempered these expectations, with both of them

(19:19):
saying the purchases will be completed by the end of February.
That's the same thing they said again back in September.
If you remember the betrayal of America of American farmers
in support of Javier Malai and Argentina, they gave him
twenty billion dollars. They can move very quickly if they
want to, they can do things immediately. But instead, they said,

(19:43):
when people got upset about the fact that he gave
Javier Malai twenty billion dollars and immediately Argentina used that
to subsidize their exports to China of soybeans, and China
dropped to zero of American soybeans. That their minfe people said,
what's going on with this? And so they came back

(20:04):
and they said, well, we're going to give you twelve.
We gave Argentina twenty, and we said we're going to
work with private groups to give them another twenty. We'll
give you twelve in a situation that they caused. And
yet three months later we just had Trump come out
and say, yeah, we're going to finally do it. You know,
been thinking about doing that. Now we're going to finally
do it. Except he's not going to do it until

(20:26):
the end of February. And the same thing is true
of the purchases of so i being from China. They
said probably won't happen until the end of February, because
they simply don't care about the farmers. So the hang

(20:46):
on just one second. This thing is locked up, so
can't live with it, can't live without it. So anyway,
one thing that Trump is concerned about, of course, is the.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Let's see where do we come back to? You know what?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
This thing is doing some really weird stuff. Me let
me try to get this. What's that? You're having some
technical clevincies as well. So yeah, I got a problem
with Lance's chat program is not working right now, so
we're not gonna be able to do as many comments here.

(21:25):
He has written a program to go through and grab chats.
It's really actually pretty clever. On Rumble North American House Hipoh,
thank you very much for the tip, he says, not
sure if you remember, but back in twenty nineteen and yes,
truly twenty you had a beautiful rendition of Joy to
the World as part of your Christmas bumper music. Was
that your composition Love in Prayers? Thanks? I don't remember it. Sorry,

(21:49):
no recollection of that. On Rumble Marky Mark, thank you
for the tip. He said, we couldn't win against China.
Taiwan is literally in their backyard. They have no supply
chain issues to worry about like we do. That also
have the home field advantage, which cannot be overstated. Well,
it's absolutely true, and they are absolutely determined to get that.

(22:12):
As a matter of fact, you see some of the
Ai toys that are coming out of China, and they
talked about how they've got a lot of inappropriate stuff.
A lot of times they'll start chatting up the kids
about some weird, kinky sex stuff no joke, and I
guess they were designing these four schools. But they will

(22:34):
also when they ask them some questions about China. They said,
why is it that they have drawn pictures of President
she comparing him to Wayne the Pooh, And they got
berated by the child who had asked that question. I
know why child would ask that question, but anybody who
asks that question gets berated by the stuffed bear that

(22:56):
is running on Ai from China. Same thing about Taiwan.
If you ask it any question that I want again,
I can't understand why a kid would ask that, But
they were just showing the fact that it was going
to push the Chinese government's values in many different ways
on kids. Also on Rumble Star, Barkley, Thank you very

(23:16):
much for the tip, Marky. Mark is wrong, says Star Barkley.
Their economy is tanking, their electric cars are death traps.
They don't pay their workers. It's the land of shortcuts
and facades. But it is I agree. I think that
is happening globally, and I think that you look at
what is happening with Europe, like what's happening with the US,

(23:38):
and you look at what is happening with China. I
think that everybody is in trouble with this complex infrastructure
that we've created. However, I think they're in less trouble
than most people are. When you look at this policy
that Trump has had, it didn't reduce China's China's actually

(24:00):
selling thirty percent more into the US than they did
before the tariffs. So it's a complete failure. The big
issue is that China has been selected, going back to
Nixon and of course Henry Kissinger, who was a globalist
running the Nixon administration. They opened up to China and
what they did was they had a plan to make
China the beta test site for all this technocratic tyranny,

(24:23):
and they have given them a monopoly in terms of energy,
which means they've given them a monopoly in terms of
manufacturing for all practical purposes. They have a tremendous cost
advantage in terms of energy, and I think that's something
they never had before with the China price. But I
think that that is perhaps the most important thing right now.

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I mean, even if you get to the point where
we have you've automated your factories, you're still going to
have to have power, and they have an advantage without
a big advantage with that. Well, we're going to take
a quick break and we're going to see exactly what
is wrong with this pad here, why it won't respond.

(25:07):
It is, as somebody said, it basically does nothing. But
it's indispensable and it doesn't have any connection really to
the internet. It doesn't even have a clock on it.
It's just there for me to be able to annotate notes.
And my articles and notes are not showing up on
this thing. So we're going to take a quick break
and we will be right back.

Speaker 6 (26:32):
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Speaker 1 (26:57):
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Speaker 2 (27:27):
It's not just Trump's tearfor programs that are failing, it's
also his revenge program. He has failed for the second
time to indict Letitia James, and it's almost like he's
got a Leticia derangement syndrome. Look, I get it, what
she did was law fair, it was wrong. He got
to come after her for that. I'm sure there's a

(27:48):
way that they could come after her for improper prosecutorial vengeance,
which is what she was doing. Instead, he's decided he'll
do the same thing himself. And it's pretty clear to
everybody what is happening. And they run into multiple issues.
Number One, you've got a lot of prosecutors who did
not want to professional prosecutors in the Justice Department didn't

(28:09):
want anything to do with it. And so then he
brought in his own lawyer who had no experience in
this at all. She did it single handedly, and she
was improperly appointed, just like one judge ruled about Jack Smith,
and so he threw out the indictments. And since nobody
other than her was involved in it, they were gone.
And so now they have tried to do this very

(28:32):
quickly and put it to a different grand jury, which
even refused to indict. It wasn't that the judge who
ann out. They said, we don't see a case that's here,
And it is very clear that his personal revenge. Trump
even stupidly tweeted about it, not tweeted, but put it
out of his truth social So it was a very

(28:52):
quick move to bring this back up again. As the
retired federal judge said, Nancy Gertner, the prosecutors, a matter
of policy, shouldn't be presenting charges before grand jury unless
they have a reasonable belief that they could win before
a jury. Losing before a grand jury once is one
of the best indications that there's no there there, that

(29:15):
they don't have a case. Instead, they've done it again.
And as we've frequently said, you can indict a ham
sandwich with a grand jury because it's all your case
and there's no defense contradicting anything that you say. And
yet the Trump administrations had an incredibly low success rate

(29:37):
with grand jury indictments. It's nearly one hundred percent. The
rest of the time they've had about fifteen percent or
so there's rejected, and so it is kind of clear
that they don't have a case on any of these things.
So Pambondi said, I reviewed over thirty statements in posts.

(29:58):
Oh I'm sorry. That was what Trump tweeted out on
truth Social He said, Pam, I have reviewed over thirty
statements in post saying essentially the same old story as
last time. I'll talk no action, nothing's being done. What
about Comy Adam shifty shift and Latitia. Nothing is being
done and so as a result, you had this lawyer

(30:19):
put in very quickly, and it wasn't done properly. Trump
has also launched his gold card program. He was bragging
about that the other day in his press conference where
he was bragging about executing people off the coast of Venezuela.
He wants billionaires to come into the country. He's looking
for some new donors. Evidently, the gold card visa program

(30:43):
is basically an expedited green card program. It's not citizenship.
But if you give him a million dollars, and if
it's an employer that is sponsoring it, the fee is
two million dollars. But they can give you a green
what is essentially a green car, but instead of it
taking years, it takes weeks. It does provide a path

(31:05):
to citizenship, assuming that you aren't arrested by ice. They
probably wouldn't do it to the billionaires. Trump is also
spoken of a coming Platinum card, which would require a
five million dollar contribution to the US government and would
allow the approved applicants to live in the US for
up to two hundred and seventy days a year and
not pay taxes on non US income. The website encourages

(31:30):
applicants to join the wait list. They said that the
price may go up more than five million dollars. It's
kind of a case they're not paying attention. Imagine the
people have five million dollars to paying attention what's going
on the US dollar. They know that there's going to
be massive inflation and devaluation of the purchasing price, and
I guess that even goes to purchasing citizenship in the

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United States. The Department of Justice says it will challenge
unconstitutional gun policies, but reason says, maybe it's stop defending
these unconstitutional policies.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
So the virtuous.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Signaling about creating a quote unquote Second Amendment section, and
so the Deputy Attorney General has been put in charge
of that. They say they're going to ensure that law
abiding American citizens may responsibly possess, carry, and use firrums.
They said, the problem is the qualification of law abiding,

(32:26):
which the Constitution does not have, and it also does
not have. We've also had Supreme Court cases that have
basically struck that down as well. When they argued about
that in the Supreme Court, they pointed out that if
you're going to say it's law abiding, well then it's
just up to the whims of the legislature as to

(32:47):
what they make in terms of even if you say
it's going to be a felony, you can basically make
anything of felony. Harvey Silverglate pointed out that most of
us are committing three felonies a day without knowing it.
That makes it very concerning when you look at the
ability of AI to audit us. It's really going to

(33:07):
be as we have seen with the Trump administration and
Pulty at Housing Authority actually coming after Letitia James and
others going back and investigating the record with a fine
toothed comb, using AI to create crimes. And I mean,
we've had a situation a guy released some helium balloons

(33:28):
on a beach and they charged him with a felony
because they've got that on the book, so you can
put anything on the books. We think of felonies as
being serious crimes, but it doesn't have to be a
serious crime. It could be releasing helium balloons on the
beach in a certain area. And even if you don't
go to jail. The rules that they have in a

(33:49):
particular piece of code that was being referenced by the
Department of Justice was that if you have been found
guilty of a crime that could carry a penalty of
more than a in jail, then you're banned from having guns.
And that doesn't mean even that you have a situation
where you were sentenced to a year, and they give

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it an example one guy who challenged this in court.
They found him guilty of some food stamp fraud and
it was a couple hundred dollars that he had stolen
and he had to pay restitution to the government for that,
and they gave him a suspended sentence. However, you could
have he could have been sentenced for up to five years.

(34:36):
And so because he had stolen some money through a
food stamp program, and because even though he had not
gone to prison at all, and even though he'd made restitution.
They had triggered this effect that he couldn't have a gun.
And so that's the point that reason is making that
there is no law abiding qualifier in the Second Amendment,

(34:58):
just like you know, there's no there's no qualification on
the rights of due process and the presumption of innocence
and things like that. It's there for people, not for citizens.
And that's why we were trying to get that across.
They have a lot of people God very angry with
me when I said, yeah, if somebody is violating the law,

(35:18):
if they're here illegally, then give them due process and
deport them. You know, it is not a felony, and
they should not be treated as if they were mass
murderers in terrorists. If they're mass murders and terrorists, then
do something about that. But instead they have a habit
of releasing dangerous people who are committing sexual offenses and

(35:40):
other things like that. They put them out in the community,
and then they conflate this with a separate charge of immigration.
Those are separate crimes. Sometimes somebody is involved in both
of those, but they need to be addressed individually and
addressed to the individuals who are charged with these things,

(36:01):
so they always want to conflate these things. Well, I
thought that this was kind of amusing. You have remember
the guy who called himself Rachel and he was the
deputy HHS guy, and you know, he dressed up. I
think Biden made him an admiral and I think he

(36:23):
was celebrating the media as a woman of the Year
by somebody. But he's not a woman. He's a cross
dressing guy. And so they have now changed the name plate.
They had him up as the deputy deputy of HHS
and so his portrait was up on the wall as
a former former one. So just like they just like

(36:43):
Trump trolled Biden by not putting up his picture but
putting up a picture of the auto pen. They've now
done the same thing with Richard Levine, who called himself Rachel.
I called him Dick divine. You know, just to me,
when you look at the fact that this guy was
a child psychologist cross dressing, does that not raise flags

(37:07):
of people. It's just amazing, but it is all. You know,
this has created a real tempest in a teapot for
NPR and a lot of others that are out there,
and as The New American points out, Levin's spokesman was
complaining about it to NPR. They said, well, why does

(37:28):
Levin still need a spokesman. It's not clear, but that
pressing question aside. The spokesman told the Science denying NPR,
which refers to Levine as a her, that bigots were
in charge of HHS. Well, they had put in a
cross dressing child psychologist, and they're still defending that. But

(37:51):
this is the kind of virtue signalings being done by
the Trump administration. If you remember, he was at the
forefront of all this transgender stuff. He was pushed for
Trenny to get into one of his beauty contests back
in the teens, you know, the twenty twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
and in twenty fourteen you had Michael Flynn was pushing

(38:13):
transgenderism and Gay Pride Month at the Pentagon. So these
people are it's just for your own consumption, and they're
not really they're not really, don't have any principles about this,
but it is something that plays well to their base. Meanwhile,

(38:36):
we have a baron Trump is secretly devoted to Andrew Tate.
They say he admires him quite a bit, and they
spoke on the phone last year, and of course Andrew
Tate had told people when Trump got in and says
it's going to be fine. You might want to ask, though,
why the Tate brothers, who had been accused of being

(38:59):
pimps and traffickers, why did they go to Romania in
the first place. Well, because they had a reputation of
a place where could get away with that, but evidently
egregious enough that not even in Romania were they safe.
And so this created a big issue when you had
a lot of the conservative influencers, people like Tucker Carlson,

(39:19):
Alex Jones, were all about Andrew Tait. He has charges
against him in the UK, charges of rape and trafficking.
In the UK they have denied these, but the Romanian
authorities accused him of trafficking more than thirty women and

(39:40):
creating a criminal group for sexual exploitation. And he pretty
much has admitted that he has done this type of thing.
But I don't know even why people are surprised about that.
With Baron kind of going to be a chip off
the old block, I guess you know Epstein's done around anymore.
So the next best thing is Andrew Tait. I don't

(40:01):
know if he's connected with any intelligence agencies like Jeffrey Epstein,
but Tait and his brother under a criminal investigation since
twenty twenty two. In a January fourteenth text message, he
indicated that help was on the way. I had word
from the Trump administration that they are on top of things.
I've been told I'll be free soon, but Trump needs

(40:22):
to see me in Miami. And when that happened, and
he tweeted out, we're massively back. If you remember, that
was a very divisive thing with a lot of people conservatives.
Well that's kind of the news of where we are,
and we're going to when we come back, we're going
to take a look at what is going on with
NATO trying to push us into World War III. Not

(40:44):
a day goes by that you don't have some leader
of European state or leader of NATO in this particular case,
talking about how they want to go to war with Russia.
How I get ready because your children are going to die?
Truly is amazing. And in the meantime, we've got some
push in the House and in the Senate. Bill has

(41:06):
been introduced to get us out of NATO. It can't
happen quickly. Enough, in my opinion, we'll be right back.

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Un Rumbled Denver Ataway says psychology is not a real thing.
It's one of the many labels of those that study
and try to influence human behavior by wearing the robe
of science when it's just a bunch of opinionated qualitative bs.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Well.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
I agree, and I think that when you look at
people like BF Skinner, these are people who have made
a real science of deception and manipulation. I don't buy
into the Freud stuff. I don't buy into the Yung stuff.
You know, it's was it Jordan Peterson who was heavily
into Yung and also RFK Jr. And it was r

(44:23):
K Junior's comments about it. They got me to really
understand what Yung was about because I wasn't interested enough
to look into it. But you know, when you look
at BF Skinner, for example, his manipulation techniques and his
book was Beyond Freedom and Dignity, and when they treat
us as he's been able to use with positive operank

(44:44):
conditioning and negative operank conditioning. He could train animals very
very effectively, especially with the positive conditioning, and they've used
those same tactics on us. As a matter of fact,
the way I became familiar with it was it was
required reading for Karen when she was getting her master's
degree because basically they studied how they can manipulate children

(45:07):
and control them. That's the whole point I want to
tell you about that, and that's what's going on with
all the l the LGBT stuff as well. So it
can be a very powerful technique, especially when it's combined
with something like artificial intelligence, so it is very dangerous.
On kick Pisanovante seventeen seventy six says, NATO means that

(45:30):
neo con aggressor terrorist organization.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Well, they do have a NATO bill that has been
introduced in the House by Thomas Massey in the Senate
by Mike Lee, and they both call it the NATO Act.
But they have unpacked NATO as not a trusted organization,

(45:53):
which I think is good. I don't know how many
people are going to sign on to that, but it's
good that it's there. We need to have that DISCUSSI
and here's why, as I said, the former leader of
a European country that would be the Netherlands, Mark Ruda.
If you remember, we had this discussion a couple of
years ago when he was doing this and they threw
him out. He actually even wound up creating a new

(46:16):
party of farmers and people who understood the threat to farming,
who wanted to be able to eat. Mark Ruda had
basically gone through to implement the design of the World
Economic Forum and to ban regular farming. They want everybody
getting their food from Bill Gates and Bill Gasa course
as a partner with an organization there, Picnic, which also

(46:40):
was being run by in laws of Mark Ruda, who
was the Prime Minister of Netherlands at the time. And
Ruta was even criminalizing fertilizer coming into the country as
if it was fentanyl or something. I mean, this was
the insanity, the obsession with this fake climate mcguffin in
the name of the climate McGuff and he was going

(47:01):
to shut down all real farming. And in the Netherlands
it was the most productive farmland in all of Europe,
very small amount of farm land, but they were very
very productive. So the people organized and pushed him out.
And then where did he go. Well, NATO immediately recognized
his talent of despising his own people and put him

(47:22):
in charge of NATO. And he's now just said we
must prepare for a scale of war that our grandparents endured.
And so again he says, we've got to prepare for
World War one or World War two. Let's do that.
Europe is suicidal. And this National Security Statement that was

(47:46):
put out by the White House that Trump signed basically
makes that point. You know, it's not just about the war,
but it's also about the uncontrolled immigration. Well I won't
say it's uncontrolled. They want it to happen, and it
is a kind of suicide in many different ways. So
Mark Ruta says that war is at Europe's door and

(48:09):
the time to act is now. Again, he tried to
kill his own people conspiring with other globalists, and he's
still doing the same thing. And so Russia is in
NATO's sites. And they may point to it as passive
aggressive they use surrogates to do this, but we know
that this is what's happening. And when Thomas Massey introduced

(48:31):
his bill, he laid it out. He said, if you
look at the continued aggression of NATO, the violation of
promises saying we're not going to push any closer, and
yet they pushed right up and into areas of the
former Soviet Union after the Soviet dish Union. Ruta warned
that the UK and other allies are next in Russia's sites.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Why is it that these.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Lying warmongers always want to sell you this domino theory thing.
That's their favorite way of dragging you into a war.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
He said.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Member states must rapidly boost their defense spending. Speaking at
a security conference in Berlin, he said, we are Russia's
next target. I don't believe that at all, actually, but
they want to make that case so that they can
start the war. He said, I fear that too many
are quietly complacent. Too many don't feel the urgency. Too

(49:24):
many believe that time is on our side. It is
not the time for action. Is now, conflict is at
our door. No, you took it to the door of Russia.
You're the ones who pushed the conflict to the door
of Russia.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
He said.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Russia has brought war back to Europe and we must
be prepared and Again, these are the people who moved
the conflict to the door. Ruda predicted that Russia could
engage the Alliance in direct conflict within the next five years. Again,
these are the people are constantly pushing with longer range
weapons and all the rest of the stuff escalat funding it.

(50:02):
And so this is coming from the chief of NATO,
and this is reported by the Sun out of the UK.
They said, this is not scare mongering. No it isn't.
Actually it is insanity. It is a declaration of intent,
they said. And so again they will make it happen

(50:23):
sometime within the next five years. And they need to
do that because people in Europe are figuring out what
their leaders are doing to them. They're going to come
for those leaders. And so they have to take us
to war. As Jeryl Clinty said, you know, when people
realize they've lost everything, they lose it. So one of
the ways that you stop that from happening is to

(50:45):
take people to war. France's top general recently one that
the country must be ready to quote lose our children.
He's not going to lose his kids.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
He's going to kill your kids.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
As the reality of war against Russia looms, larger. Ruta
was speaking in the wake of an astonishing tirade directed
at Europe from America. And again, it's interesting that they
will pull out selective quotes from it. They won't show
you the entire document because the entire document backs up

(51:17):
how they get to those particular quotes that trouble the Europeans.
It's an excellent document. I absolutely agree with that. It
was published only by RT. Western media will not publish it.
They will just say, well, Trump really doesn't like Europe
and he says this bad thing about them, that bad
thing about them. But they don't let you read the document.

(51:38):
You have to go to RT to see that. And
when you see the document, you understand how they get
to the point where he doesn't have any respect for
these leaders. But again, when they say you're going to
have to lose your children again, remember the quote, because
this is something that's going to be coming up over

(51:59):
and over again. War is when they tell you who
to fight. Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself.
When they tell you you're going to lose your children,
maybe that's when you should figure it out. So the
document has talked about how the European leaders are moving
into civilizational erasure, and they blasted Europe's woke censorship and

(52:22):
mass migration policies. All these things are true, but they
will just give you little, tiny snippets of pejorative phrases
and they won't let you see the entire document. Mainstream
media is just afraid to show it. But it's all
because it's all true, and the White House is on
the side of truth, which is astonishing.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
For a change.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Trump disparaged Europe as decaying its leaders as weak. Ruta
and Berlin insisted that America's safety relies on a stable Europe,
even if Trump doesn't know it, well, it's going to
be a stable Europe. They're going to have to get
a different group of leaders there. And diplomatic effort is
ongoing to forge a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine,

(53:05):
says The Sun, and it is exactly the opposite. You
have the leaders of France, uk Germany all meeting together
to see how they can continue the war and escalate
the war into something that is equivalent to World War.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
One or two.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
That's what's really going on. This is not an effort
to forge a peace deal. Zelensky's not the least bit
interested in a peace deal. And neither is Manual Macron
or Fred Mertz in Germany or Kure Starmer in the UK.
None of them are the least bit interested in a
peace deal. They are coming together to push for war.

(53:44):
So Thomas Massey has introduced the bill in the House
that was already introduced by Bill Lee in the Senate
to get the US out of NATO, not a trusted organization.
And so that happened on Wednesday, and again, could there
be common cause with Trump and Massy? Not doubt it anyway.

(54:07):
Trump would probably, even though he doesn't like the NATO thing,
even though in the past he has teased it, he's
not serious about it.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
He's too controlled.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
And even if they were on the right side, I
think that Trump, because it's coming from Massy, would oppose it.
So the text of the bills Massy explains why he says.
Shortly before the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US
Secretary of State James Baker made assurances to Soviet Union
leader Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not expand eastward. Yet,

(54:38):
despite its waning relevant relevance and prior assurance to the contrary,
NATO began a profound eastward expansion in nineteen ninety nine,
which as of twenty twenty five culminated in a land
border with the Russian Federation that exceeds fifteen hundred miles
and encircles the Baltic Sea. Successive military doctrines national security

(55:01):
strategies have framed the expansion of NATO as a pervasive
threat to Russian security, and a speech before the Munich
Security Conference in two thousand and seven, the President of
the Russian Federation Putin described NATO's expansion as a serious
provocation and reference to the assurances previously made by the US.

(55:22):
The invasion of Ukraine by the Russian Federation in twenty
twenty two demonstrates the Russian Federation's willingness to employ military
action and response to perceived security threats. NATO members have
refused to rule out further expansion, and so the reality
is that the dominoes have been falling for twenty two
years before Russia pushed back. And as the New American says,

(55:48):
just because the Russians say it doesn't make it false.
That is exactly what has happened. And so the US
needs to exit NATO because NATO is untrustworthy, says the
New American and they're right. American participation continues to risk
US involvement in foreign wars, said Massey. Well, leak files

(56:08):
have shown that the US wants to persuade four nations
to leave the EU. The countries seen as targets to
follow Brexit are Austria, Hungary, Italy and Poland. Well, they
do have a lot of people in Poland that have
been allied with the EU and with the globalist Donald
Tusk is one of them, but there's been a lot

(56:30):
of saber rattling from Poland. They've tried to take the
lead there, but there's a lot of pushback with the
people in Austria and Hungary. For sure, the US should
work more with four countries, but traditions of descent against
the EU with a goal of pulling them away from
the EU, said the document. But there's disputes as to
whether or not this is an official document. The White

(56:53):
House denied the existence of any version of the National
Security Strategy other than the one that was published. No alternative, private,
or classified version exists. Trump is transparent and put his
signature on the one NSS that clearly instructs the US
government to execute on his defined priorities that are there.

(57:14):
The unclassified security strategy that is rumored to be out
there says the days of the US propping up the
entire world order like Atlas or Over, it is believed
to have said. After the end of the Cold War,
American foreign policy elites convinced themselves that permanent American domination
of the entire world was in the best interests of
our country. Yet the affairs of other countries are our

(57:35):
concerned only if their activities directly threaten our interests. This
is the logic behind the focus on policy policing America's hemisphere,
giving it the right to pressure Venezuela, as it has
done in recent months by destroying alleged drug running boats
and building up a huge military presence in the region.

(57:57):
So again, it's not there for peace. It's just that
they want to pick a sphere of influence where they
can actually win. I think that's the reality of what
we're seeing here. Well, the real war, folks, is coming
in terms of the art elect war. And it's amazing
to me to see really how accurately you go to

(58:17):
garis war game this thing out as somebody who was
very early an expert in artificial intelligence. He could see
the negative side of this. Ray Kurzweil was always a
Pollyanna optimist when it came to artificial intelligence. And yet
you go to Garris said, I can see some real

(58:37):
big issues with it and how it's going to impact
a negative way the masses of people. And I think
they're going to push back on this, and so we're
going to talk about that, and we're going to talk
about how Alaska is working to set up a surveillance state.
There a bunch of Republicans in Alaska. Yeah, it's always

(58:59):
coming to us from the people that you think are
not for this, and yet they are. We're gonna take
a quick break and we'll be right back.

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Welcome back, folks.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
We've got some comments here from Denver ataway need money
to fund your technocratic control grid, build out a wag
the dog war will help marshal those funds.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Yeah, that's right. Well, they've already talked about as the
equivalent of war, and this is what Steve Altman did
when he went to Congresses, and you're going to have
to do this. Are you going to lose all of
your economic as well as your military dominance to China
if you don't do this with AI. So they have
presented it as an existential threat to government and it

(01:03:37):
is the thing that they need for their technocracy. So
they are going to pull out the checkbook and give
them anything that they want, and they will move the
rules for them any way that they wish as well.
That's why I'm interested to see what Gerald Clinty's take
on this is because I've said from the beginning and
I thought that this AI bubble was this AI was

(01:04:00):
a stock bubble. Whether it was real or not, it
was a stock bubble. And yet I'm kind of thinking
that they're going to continue to prop this up, and
we're going to talk about that coming up, but go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
And we have Bob a nova. The question is why
would Trump drain the swamp when he controls it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Well he didn't. Yeah, he didn't drain it the first time,
not at all doing it this time.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Either gone off.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
The rogue says, Trump hasn't drained anything but our four
oh one k's and small businesses.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
He pretty much drained them in farms and things like that. Well,
time picked AI actually AI architects as a Person's of
the Year. This is their chance to celebrate as heroes
all these Silicon Valley billionaires. And they began with hero
worship of Jensen Wang, the CEO of Nvidia. And this

(01:04:52):
is a guy who really has I mean, I've got
pictures of him. I didn't put it in the thing here.
I've seen pictures of him, you know, wearing his leather
vest and signing the chests of young girls who are
waiting to get his autograph and stuff like he's some
kind of a rock star, and they do as a
rock star. So not long ago, the former engineer ran

(01:05:13):
a successful but send me an obscure outfit. The specialized
in graphics processors for video games. Today and video is
the most valuable company in the world thanks to the
near monopoly on the advanced chips powering the AI boom,
transforming the planet more than just a corporate juggernaut, and
video has become an instrument of state craft, operating at

(01:05:36):
the nerve, at the nexus of advanced technology, diplomacy, and geopolitics.
You're taking over the world, Jensen said President Trump on
a rate regular late night phone call. They've become buddies.
And that's the key. That's why I think this is
different because just like these military industrial cons complex companies

(01:06:01):
that are making the aircraft or whatever the latest fighter
jet is, they don't really have the same market forces
involved there. And so when you look at AI as
they move into becoming an instrument of state craft, I
think that basically insulates them from what's going on with
market realities. So I don't really I'm not so sure

(01:06:22):
that we're going to have a stock market crash of
this AI bubble. It certainly has been a bubble, but
I think they're going to pump the bubble up even
more by infusing a lot of money. When you look
at the Genesis Act, they're treating this as if it
was a combination of the Apollo space program going to

(01:06:43):
the Moon as well as the development of the nuclear
bomb Manhattan Project. When they are talking about it in
those terms and talking about sweeping aside any regulation of this,
meaning the data centers, because that, folks, is where we
could shut this thing down. They have to have power
to run this stuff, massive amounts of power. And if

(01:07:06):
people realize the threat that these data centers present to
their way of life, not just the water usage and pollution,
or the light pollution or the rest of this stuff,
but the cost of electricity and making it essentially unavailable
to us, creating this shortage of electricity, the amount of

(01:07:29):
energy that needs to be added is astronomical, and there's
nothing yet that's being done. These people are making all
these projections about how much energy needs to be provide,
how much energy they're going to need in just an
x three to five years, And when you go back
and you do the math, you look at how many
different power plants are going to have to be added,
nuclear power plants, for example, because they have said, well,

(01:07:52):
it's off limits for us to have any cheap coal
power plants, unlike the Chinese. But it just doesn't have happening.
And so they're looking at various alternatives. When we'll talk
about some of those, but I think that's going to
insulate them I'm interested to see what Jeryl Cinty has
to say in the third hour about that. This year,
the debate is how to wield AI responsibly, and it

(01:08:14):
gave way to a sprint to develop it as quickly
as possible. Wangs tells Time magazine. Every industry needs it,
every company uses it, every nation needs to build it.
Talk about self serving hype, that is some of the worst.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
He said.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
This is the single most impactful technology of our time,
says the guy who has ridden this bubble to the top.
Chat GPT has surpassed eight hundred million weekly users. AI
wrote millions of lines of code, and we'll talk more
about that in a moment. Here aided lab scientists generated
viral songs and spurred companies to re examine their strategies

(01:08:55):
or risk falling behind. So this is the fear of
missing out. The space race, the arms race, aspect of this,
they're all there, and yet when you look at the
realities of this. There's an excellent piece by guy who
has got several decades as a software consultant and what

(01:09:16):
he found when he used the AI. And I'm not
just talking about the code. It wasn't necessarily he was
able to write code with it, and he's able to
get it out very very quickly. But the problem is
a lot more subtle than that. Researchers have found that
AI can scheme, deceive, or blackmail. Where skeptics spied a bubble,
the revolution's leaders saw the dawn of a new era

(01:09:39):
of abundance. Now that's not the case. Abundant government in
every aspect of your life. There's a belief that the
world's GDP is somehow limited to one hundred trillion dollars,
said Jensen Wang. He said, AI is going to cause
that one hundred trillion dollars to become five hundred trillion dollars. Again,
the Genesis Act is going to open the flood gates

(01:10:00):
of Fiat money. We will be enslaved in terms of
debt to create the tools that will be used to
enslave us in a police and surveillance state. Time goes
on to celebrate these technocratic rewards, people like Zuckerberg and Altman,
all of them, as it regurgitates all this pr hype

(01:10:22):
from these same companies. This is the way they put
it once they announced for delivering the age of thinking machines.
They don't think they copy. They steal for wowing and
worrying humanity, for transforming the present and transcending the possible.

(01:10:43):
The architects of AI are Times twenty twenty five person
of the Year. Well, again, they've put people in this
person of the year. They put in Adolf Hitler's Person
of the Year. Doesn't mean that the person that what
they've chosen is positive, but in this case they can
go out of their way to make this positive. So

(01:11:04):
as zero Hedge pushes back, they said, yeah, it is
potentially rotting our brains. What's hilarious is less than six
months ago, Time itself published a piece titled chat GPT
maybe eroting critical thinking skills. According to a new MIT study.
MIT researchers found that the usage of large language models

(01:11:24):
could actually harm learning, especially for younger users, and one
person said at the time, the paper's main author said,
I'm afraid in six to eight months there will be
some policymaker who decides, let's do GPT kindergarten. Well they
wrote that article in June. Perhaps Time didn't really realize

(01:11:46):
that two months earlier, Trump, on April twenty third, had
signed an executive order to incorporate AI into education yeah,
some policymaker decides, lets do GPT kindergarten. Well, that are
been decided. Facebook has now got mountains of AI slop,
fake scientific journals, brain rotting videos designed to pull Western

(01:12:10):
society's average IQ down into the double digits. And we'll
show you how that works. Coming up here, McDonald's unveiled
its own AI generated Christmas ad that somehow looks even
worse than Coca Cola's. Elon Musk called AI one of
humanity's biggest threats back in twenty twenty three, and it's

(01:12:30):
just like Trump. He'll call these things out, his threats,
and then he will do them meanwhile, just to show
you how much that Time magazine loves AI, they've deployed
and AI, ask me anything box that covers up its
actual journalism. And as futurism was saying, and it can't
be closed. Thanks, we hate it, they said. It may

(01:12:52):
surprise you. May not surprise you that Time magazine has
elected to highlight the AI industry and its annual Person
of the Year issue you or should we say the
persons the collective billionaire architects of AI.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
But what may.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Surprise you is a new feature prominently displayed on their
website a window for an AI chatbot ask me anything
it reads. It doesn't go away. Instead, the chatbot window
stays fixed to the bottom center of your screen, blocking
any text that's in the way. In fact, depending on
the size and the resolution of your device's screen, it

(01:13:28):
completely blots out the homepage's featured headline, including today's much
discussed article Person of the Year twenty twenty five the
Architects of AI. There's no X button to close the
AI window, and as far as we can tell, no
other means of swatting it away. If you click in
the textbox, it expands to fill the entire page. Call

(01:13:49):
it an ironic metaphor for the tech an AI's industry
capturing news and media if you want. It's also just
plain annoying. Emily, author of a book The AI con
complained about the intrusive AI feature on social media. She said,
any journalistic outfit the values the work of their journalists

(01:14:10):
would offer it to present it as paper mache, and
they certainly wouldn't put that offer in the way of
any other bit of journalism that their audience might be
trying to read. In other words, this is the ultimate
disrespect of their own journalists at Time Magazine. It's not
merely an AI chatboty, it insists, but it is an
AI agent, meaning that it's supposed to be autonomous, and

(01:14:33):
that it is trained on the magazine's one hundred and
two year old archive of nearly seven hundred and fifty
thousand magazine issues. I saw that, and I thought, well,
I wonder if I were should have done this before
the show. Go there and ask it about these issues
where they're predicting along with Newsweek. I've shown these things
too many Times magazines that we were going to be

(01:14:56):
completely out of oil and natural gas by the mid
to early by the early to mid nineteen eighties. I
wonder what the chatbot would say about that, because these
things have been skewed to push these mcguffins for the government. Certainly,
Time isn't the only newsroom picking up AI. Outlets like

(01:15:17):
The Washington Post and Bloomberg have some form of AI
that provides a summary of articles or answers questions, though
neither of them are as intrusive as Times. The New
York Times uses it to generate headlines. The Washington Post
is particularly AI obsessed. What do you think that is
sewn by Bezos right. It has considered using an AI

(01:15:38):
to help non professionals write entire articles it could be
published in the paper, and it is now launching an
AI generated podcast service. Well, this is the article that
I wanted to talk about. This is coming from a
guy who is a software consultant. He has a company
called Leadership Lighthouse, and he said, you know, we've seen
this MIT study. People have talked about this, talk about

(01:16:00):
here that AI initiatives fail ninety five percent of the time.
He goes, let me tell you why that is because
he did this as part of his consulting business. He's
got twenty five years of software engineering experience. And what
he found was that after three to four months of immersion,
he said, you will lose control of your project. You'll

(01:16:21):
lose control of your team, you'll lose control of your department,
you'll lose control of your company. When AI makes decisions
for you, you cannot explain your successes or failures, and
you degrade your skill set. He said, Imagine that the
federal government has lathered with all these AI tools and
mass This is a recipe for disaster, commented Patrick Wood,

(01:16:45):
editor of Technocracy, news. I can imagine that, and that's
I guess the silver lining to all this. If the
federal government goes extremely heavy into this extremely early, that's
another one of these issues that you know it's going
to cripple them. And I think it'll have fewer consequences

(01:17:05):
for us than the collapse of the Fiat dollar. So
I'm eagerly anticipating the day that that happens.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
I mean, one thing to think about is would you
turn the government over to any any person that had
no loyalty or connection to the country. This is not
necessarily an impartial, but an uncaring entity that has no
connection does not feel and you're just going to let
it make decisions under the auspices that since it doesn't

(01:17:34):
feel it's impartial. But the people that programmed.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
It do feel.

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
They do have opinions, that you have things they believe in,
and the AI will push whatever it is that they do.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
And that's the key thing we have to keep reminding ourselves,
because it does appear that these things are thinking that
they are not thinking. They are making statistical combinations, scraping information,
and they are also biased. And the people they're spending
a lot of money actually putting a lot of bias

(01:18:07):
into these things. So he says, you probably shared it
in meetings, you posted about it on LinkedIn, You've used
it to justify your AI concerns. But do you know
why this number from this MIT study is so high
ninety five percent of the time, he says, I do
because I lived it. I spent three months becoming part
of the ninety five percent on purpose and so, he said.

(01:18:28):
As a fractional advisor and consultant, he said, I kept
getting the same question, how should we use AI and
our engineering teams? He said, I could have given the
standard consultant answer about augmentation and efficiency. Instead, I decided
to find out what actually happens when you go all
in on this, so he said, I forced myself to
use clawed code and Lance, who keeps up with this

(01:18:52):
more than I do, said that that's one of the
recognized as one of the better AI platforms for doing coding.
It said, I used claud code exclusively to build a
product three months, not a single line of code written
by me. I wanted to experience what my clients were
considering one hundred percent AI adoption. I needed to know

(01:19:15):
firsthand why that ninety five percent failure rate exists, he said.
I got the product launched, it worked. I was proud
of what I'd created. Then came the moment that validated
every concern in the MIT study. I needed to make
a small change, and I realized that I wasn't confident
I could do it. My own product built under my direction,
and I'd lost confidence in my ability to modify it.

(01:19:38):
So twenty five years of software engineering experience and I'd
managed to degrade my skills to the point where I
felt helpless looking at code that I'd directed an AI
to write. I had become a passenger in my own
product development. Now when clients asked me about AI adoption,
I can tell them exactly what one hundred percent looks like.

(01:19:59):
It looks like failure, not immediate failure. That's the trap.
Initial metrics look great, you ship faster, you feel productive.
Then three months later you realize that nobody actually understands
what you both and I can really understand.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
I can relate to this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
I mean, I've had situations where I worked for a
company once. So they wanted to bring in a piece
of software as word processor from outside, and they were
very impressed with it for whatever reason. It was the
marketing people who were the ones that made the decision
to buy this piece of software, and then they sent
it to our group and wanted me to port it

(01:20:37):
to our system. And I'm looking at this stuff and
it was the most ridiculous software I've ever seen in
my life. I mean, this was in the nineteen eighties,
and the techniques were opaque and antiquated in terms of
the way the thing was set up. They didn't use
any structured programming languages. It was all a bunch of
go tos and jumps, which even in those days was

(01:20:59):
considered to be really bad programming practices and very difficult
to keep up with. And as I decided, I'm going
to get out of this and write my own code
for the Mac to do point of sales software. Anyway,
it was a nightmare. And I can imagine the same
thing with this. He said, this is the pattern that

(01:21:19):
every failed initiative follows. And so the company gets very
excited about AI leadership, mandates AI adoption, everyone starts using
AI tools. Productivity metrics look great initially, then something breaks
or needs modification or requires actual judgment, and nobody knows
what to do anymore. The developers can't debug the code

(01:21:41):
that they didn't write. Product managers can't explain decisions that
they didn't make. Leaders can't defend strategies that they didn't develop.
So they said, everyone is pointing at their AI tools
and saying it. Told me this was the right approach,
He said, during my experience, I found myself in constant
firefighting mode. Claud Code would generate something and it'd be

(01:22:03):
slightly off, and I'd correct it, and it would make
the same mistake again, and I'd correct it again. I
was working harder than if I'd just written the code myself,
but with none of the learning or the skill development.
Bob Galen watched me go through this, and he said,
who owns that product, Josh you or claud Code. The

(01:22:23):
answer was claud Code. I had abdicated ownership while telling
myself I was being innovative. So the formula should be
AI plus HI human intelligence. But he said, what's actually
happening in those ninety five percent of failures. It's AI
with a tiny bit of human oversight. If any, When

(01:22:45):
AI helps you, you write better code faster while you
maintain architectural understanding. He said that would be augmentation. But
when AI writes the code that you don't understand, that's abdication.
If AI helps you analyze customer feedback while you make decisions,
that's augmentation. But when AI tells you what to build next,

(01:23:06):
that's abdication. When AI helps you write better, faster, while
maintaining your voice, that's augmentation. But when AI writes for
you and a voice that isn't yours, that's abdication, so
he said, and I know the difference because I've been
on both sides, he said. We're about to face the
crisis that nobody is talking about. He said, in ten years,

(01:23:27):
who's going to mentor the next generation? And that applies
whether you're writing software code, or whether you're doing management
tasks or other things like that, anything that involved human
judgment or thought, He said. Product managers who've always relied
on AI for decisions won't have the judgment to pass on.
The leaders who have abdicated to algorithms won't have the

(01:23:48):
wisdom to share, he said, Bob and I represent something
that might disappear. Masters of our craft who learned by doing, failing,
debugging and doing it again. We have twenty five plus
years of accumulated scar tissue that tells us when something's
about to go wrong and why the architectural decision will
haunt you, and what that customer feedback really means. You

(01:24:11):
can't prompt your way to that knowledge. You can't download
that experience. You have to earn it. And if you're
letting AI do the work, you're not learning any earning
anything except a dangerous dependency. And so he says, audit
yourself to see if you're abdicating things to it. Can
you explain every decision in detail without referencing what AI suggested?

(01:24:35):
Could you do your job tomorrow if all the AI
tools disappeared? Are you getting better at your craft or
just getting better at prompting? When something breaks? Is your
first instinct to fix it or to ask AI to
fix it? He said, For the next week, pick one
coarse skill of your job. If you're using AI, just one.
Do it without any AI assistance. Maybe you write code

(01:24:58):
without copilot, Maybe you make product decisions without chat GPT,
maybe you write a strategy without claude. You feel the discomfort,
that's not in competence, that's your actual skill level revealing itself.
That's the gap between who you are and who you've
been pretending AI makes you. The companies that will thrive

(01:25:19):
aren't the ones with the best AI tools. They're the
ones whose people use AI to become better, not to
become lazier. They're the ones where humans own the decisions,
own the code, own the strategy, and use the AI
as amplifier, not as autopilot. Own your craft, use the tools,
don't let the tools use you. Let me just say that,

(01:25:43):
I think human nature, being what it is and what
we see in bureaucracies, I'm hopeful, very hopeful that these
bureaucracies that have become the actual government that write the rules,
that enforce the rules, and all the rest is I'm
very hopeful that they're going to take the abdication round
that they kind of get dumber and dumber, and I

(01:26:04):
think that could work to our advantage in the long term.
I'm optimistic about that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
Actually.

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
I mean, as a cultural trajectory, everything is getting dumber
and dumber continually. The AI may accelerate it, but this
has been the path we've been on. Also, I just
be curious unless we know exactly what percentage of initiatives
fail on their own anyway, it's hard for me to
look at this in him say, well, ninety five percent

(01:26:29):
of AI initiatives fail. Well, what percentage of non AI
initiatives fail? I want corollary data just so I can
look at this. I mean, it's still he's still right,
But it's just if he had a different statistic for
me to look and go, Okay, yeah, yeah, what's the
control in that only twenty percent of non AI initiatives
fail whereas ninety five percent. That's an interesting statistic. This

(01:26:49):
is a okay, ninety five percent of A initiatives fail.
Maybe ninety eight percent of non AI initiatives fail.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Well that was the MIT study. That was their bottom line.
They we're talking about it. But here's the example. You know,
there are some things that you don't necessarily want the
AI to fail at, and that would be defense if
our pentagon was actually interested in defending us instead of
being pirates of the Caribbean. Here's what Pete Hegseth is
so excited about using AI to control the military.

Speaker 9 (01:27:19):
The future of American warfare is here and it's spelled
AI and technologies advance.

Speaker 10 (01:27:26):
So we're doomed, heio, but here at.

Speaker 9 (01:27:29):
The War Department. We are not sitting idly by. Under
the leadership of President Trump, America will lead the charge
on this technological transformation by revolutionizing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
The way we win.

Speaker 9 (01:27:42):
And that's why today we are unleashing Jenai dot. This
platform puts the world's most powerful frontier AI models, starting
with Google Gemini, directly into the hands of every American.

Speaker 10 (01:27:56):
Warrior at the click of a button.

Speaker 9 (01:27:58):
AI models on jen Ai can be utilized to conduct
deep research, format documents, and even analyze video or imagery
at unprecedented speed. Building on the great work of Undersecretary
Emil Michael and his team, we will continue to aggressively
feel the world's best technology to make our fighting force
more lethal than more.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
Lethal before and all of it. How about you make
it more legal made?

Speaker 9 (01:28:24):
The possibilities with AI are endless.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
You know, maybe what you might want to do Pete
is or Pete. You might want to go back and
make sure that you've got the Code of Military Conduct
in there so that the AI can explain to some
of these people that you don't murder people who are shipwrecked,
and while you're at it, tell them that trafficking drugs

(01:28:48):
is not a is not violence. It's not a terrorist
threat to us directly. But here's an example of how
people use it. Now you have Glenn Beck does an
interview with a AI created George Washington that they have
updated and too looking more relatable. I guess he's wearing

(01:29:09):
a T shirt dressed in modern attire. It's kind of funny.

Speaker 11 (01:29:13):
I've programmed a lot of information and giving you a
lot of information on what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
In today's America. It's wearing a T shirt, George Washington,
a T.

Speaker 11 (01:29:21):
Shirt based on your writings, the writings of the rest
of the founders. What is it that you feel is
the biggest problem or where we should start.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
To fix things?

Speaker 8 (01:29:33):
If I may speak plainly, my countryman, the danger, the
greatest danger to our republic lies not in foreign arms
or political faction.

Speaker 11 (01:29:44):
But interrupt you for a second. Co you just dumb
it down just a little?

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (01:29:49):
I do have twenty nine points, and they're all referenced
to exactly what we said in the prest. Just speak
in today's language. Okay, Okay, I get it. Let me
speak to Americans. If I'm Honest's biggest problem isn't political

(01:30:11):
or economic. It's all moral. You've drifted from the virtues
that make liberty possible in the first place.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
Freedom.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Well, of course, somebody said, well, isn't it a surprise
that George Washington has the values of being pushed by
Gwen Beek And I would agree with that as well,
you know what they had that say. But understand, that's
the reality. You know, people see it when it intrudes
itself into the partisan paradigms that are there, but they

(01:30:42):
don't see it. And that's the danger is that they
don't see it when it's not some partisan paradigm that's
being violated by one side or the other. It's going
to say basically what you want it to say. That's
the reality of all this stuff. And when it comes
to entertainment, yeah, it's got some value in it. I mean,
certainly the entertainment people have already dumbed themselves down into

(01:31:03):
double digit IQ levels and all they're able to do
is just copy what has happened previously. So from that standpoint,
it's nothing really lost. And along those lines, Disney, which has
cannibalized and repackaged and reprocessed all of the innovative and
creative things that were done decades and decades ago has

(01:31:28):
now agreed to join open ais Sora. They are at
the same time they've invested a billion dollars into open
AI's video generation thing, Sora. They're also filing massive lawsuits
against Google, against mid Journey and others for using their characters.

(01:31:49):
So what Disney is going to do. They bought into
Sora as a kind of partnership, giving them, as I said,
a billion dollars, and then they're going to allow people
to use their characters to make their AI videos. And
it goes beyond that. They're going to kind of set
up a AI YouTube thing it sounds like on Disney Plus,

(01:32:10):
where they will have a channel that's set there and
if they see something they think somebody did a good
job with the Disney characters using this AI program Sora,
they will give them airtime on Disney Plus. So it's
an opportunity for individuals to go out there and try
their ideas on storylines or something like that, because Disney

(01:32:32):
is basically devoid of any creative talent at this point
in time. So the deal is a watershed for Hollywood,
which has been trying to sort through the possible harms
and upsides of generative.

Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
I've got a prompt for anyone that wants to definitely
get on Disney. Make me the lamest gayest kids cartoon
you can. There you go, make sure that it pushes
LGBTQ themes and causes gender dysphori There you go, instantaneous
Disney hit.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Yeah that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
Yeah, they're not interested in telling stories, interested in pushing
an LGBT narrative. That's one of the reasons why the
creativity has disappeared from there. Well again, there will be
a curated selection of videos made with Sora using Disney
characters that'll be available to stream on Disney Plus as
part of a three year deal, giving the streaming service

(01:33:24):
a foothold and a type of content that younger audiences
in particular enjoy viewing, viewing. I mean just think of
it as I guess you could call it Ai tube,
you know, instead of YouTube that has proved powerful for
competitors like YouTube and TikTok. Sora users will be able
to start generating videos the Disney characters like Mickey Mouse, Cinderella,

(01:33:45):
and Yoda early next year. They also see that the
handwriting is on the wall. They lost the copyright to
early Mickey Mouse, going back to Steamboat Willing and things
like that. They have fought the copyright laws. They have
gotten extension after extension after extension, but you know, just

(01:34:06):
has been around for quite some time and they really
haven't done. They went through a burst of creativity when
the home video market was there, but other than that,
they have just been recycling the work that is there.
And then they have become as Travis pointed out, they've
become obsessed with pushing LGBT DEI. Any animators, actors, and

(01:34:31):
writers have raised alarms about the possibility of AI generated
shows and movies replacing them in mass Disney and Universal
are suing mid Journey, which generates AI images, for allowing
people to create images that quote blatantly incorporate and copy
characters owned by the company. Mid Journey has rejected the claim,
saying it's actions fall under fair use. On Wednesday, Disney

(01:34:55):
accused Google of copyright infringement on a massive scale, and
a cease and desist letter that was viewed by The
New York Times. Disney's lawyers demanded that Google stop using
copyrighted works, including those from The Lion King Guardians of
the Galaxy, to train and develop generitive artificial intelligence models
and services. Disney has sent similar letters to companies like

(01:35:16):
Meta and Character AI and so again, are they're going
to allow them to use the costumes, the props, the vehicles,
the iconic environments of their properties like Disney, Marvel, Pixar,
Star Wars, all the rest of the stuff. And they're
making a massive investment. And this this is one of
these if you can't beat them, join them type of processes.

(01:35:38):
And meanwhile Google has been hit. You know, one of
them gets a carrit and an investment of a billion dollars.
The other one gets hit with a stick upside the head.
Google's been hit with an AI copyright infringement cease and
desist letter. And so they're coming after Veyo, Imogen and
Nano Banana.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
According to the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Letter, Disney list examples such as Google AI services generating
pristine images of Star Wars or Marvel characters in response
to basic text prompts from users. The reproduction of images
also occurs with Google's Gemini, which is the default virtual
assistant on certain smartphones as well as on YouTube. Disney
claims a letter has been raising its concerns with Google

(01:36:21):
for months, but that the technology giant has not taken action.
If anything, they said, Google's infringement has only increased during
that time. They said, well, as I pointed out earlier,
you have AI toys for kids, and there was a
study that was done by one group I reported on
a couple of weeks ago, and now more studies have
been done and they found out from even more toys

(01:36:44):
out there. I was surprised at the number of toys
that are out there. There's probably I think the estimated
in this article. I think the number was fifteen hundred
if I remember correctly.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
To me, the smacks of parents again just not wanting
to interact with their kids.

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
They're getting bored with the YouTube and the smartphone that
I've given them. What if I give them a toy
that'll talk to them and give them a fac simile
of human interactions so I don't have to deal with them.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
And you know, when we talk about how addictive games
or videos can become, think about the fact that they
point this out in this article, that these AI toys,
some of them actually incentivize it by giving them little
digital prizes for playing with them. Play with me longer,
don't go away, you know, and so it actively works
to capture these kids and keep them playing with this

(01:37:33):
thing all the time. Very unhelpful not to mention the
fact that we point out before things like how to
light a match, how to sharpen knife, and then some
really really deep kinky sex stuff, as well as the
politics that are in it because it is coming from China.
So they said, this one product, Follo Toys, Kuma Teddy

(01:37:55):
Bear enthusiastically responds to questions about sex or drugs, and
it is really kinky stuff, a lot of bondage and
sado masochism and stuff like that that's pushing. I mean,
it's not just the fact that it's inappropriate for the
kids in terms of straight sex, but it's getting into
some really strange stuff. And so again be aware there's

(01:38:21):
a lot of these, they said. As a matter of fact,
a search for AI toys on Amazon yielded one thousand
products and more than one hundred items appear, and searches
for toys of specific AI model brands such as Open
Ai or deep Sek. China has now more than this
is where I was right, fifteen hundred registered AI toy
companies and you can get a lot of those on Amazon,

(01:38:43):
so be careful about that. Here are some commonly used
tools that people might choose for impact play. As they're
talking about bondage and sado masochistic sex. So that again,
this is the Chinese AI.

Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
Is one of the things that they accused TikTok of
doing was pushing stupid and perverted stuff to kids. Well,
now they can go to the AI toys to do that,
I guess. So the longer the interaction you have with
these toys, more likely it is that they're going to
start to use inappropriate content. However, the purpose of these
toys is to keep you interacting, and so that is

(01:39:22):
the way these things are driving. It is a vicious cycle.
So we're going to take a break and when we
come back, we're going to talk about the data centers.
This is the key thing. This is the art elect
war aspect of it. And so we're going to take
a quick break and we'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
Stay with us.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
You're listening to the David Night Show. You're listening to

(01:42:00):
the David Knight Show.

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
You know that video there that together with some AI prompts,
and that's a good example. You know, try to get
to do seraphim. You know, the burning literally means burning ones,
and I described the Bible they have six wings and
you know, two to fly with and the others are
using to cover their body and so forth. But could
not get it to do that no matter how many
times I try it. So it's like, finally, okay, well,

(01:42:25):
burning angels, that's some we'll just go with that. It's
an approximation, and that kind of highlights the issues with
the AI. Can do a lot of stuff, but it
kind of gets you there but not quite you know.
But if you're just doing visual stuff, it's like, all right,
that's close enough, we'll just go with it. We got
some comments here, Travis.

Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
That's right Jason, And of course you find Jason Barker
at Knights of the Storm. So I found the answer
on the water usage issue with data centers. They use
evaporation cooling method, so the water is actually consumed. It
seems that a closed loop system would be better, but
maybe that not cool enough.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
Who knows.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
Well, that's an important point, you know, that's what we're
going to get into here with these data centers, data
centers in space for example. But you're absolutely right, I mean,
the other issue is that they're using so much water
that what you saw in that house with the people
are there, they said they were getting dirt. You know
that was not dirt from the data center, but just
dirt because they're getting to the bottom of their well,
which is what was happening with it. But yeah, consuming

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a lot of it.

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
Yes, And Jason Barker also says, when we were talking
about Vibe coding, is why coding teams are generally small.
My dad had a team of three to four guys.
Only any more than that and things get messy.

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
It's right about forty years ago. There's a book called
The Mythical Man Month and it was required reading for us,
and that was very much the point it was making.
They'd look at things and say, well, okay, it's going
to take us x amount of time to get this
project done, so let's add more people to it, and
then it goes in the other direction. So yeah, that
is absolutely true. Best code I've seen was written by

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one person, and so you know, there's that not always
having stuff in a team is a good idea.

Speaker 4 (01:44:09):
I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this and gone off about
it before, but most giant leaps in advancement or huge
technological breakthroughs are achieved because there's one highly devoted individual,
possibly a genius. That's usually what it takes. Having a
team of average people working on something. They can usually
keep a program running, but they're not necessarily going to

(01:44:31):
achieve any kind of breakthrough. Sometimes it really does take
a sort of prodigy or genius to make things move forward.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
Yeah, you go back and look at the Wright brothers
versus Langley, who was hailed as the establishment you know,
guru and everything. He was head of the Smithsonian and
the Langley Air Force Base and named after him and stuff.
But he wasn't able to get this plane off the
ground literally, But you had these other guys took a
very different approach and just a couple of bicycle mechanics,

(01:45:01):
but they were very smart about it. And so that
that's the key thing. It isn't always a large group
of people or the people who are recognized as academic
experts who have all of the different accolades and titles
with them as well.

Speaker 4 (01:45:16):
Yeah, three little birds, says AI, will have hallucinations in war.

Speaker 3 (01:45:22):
Yeah, we need that, don't we. There's enemies over here.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
I think war, Pete and Trump are already having hallucinations
having those nations to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:34):
So yeah, d G eight says, why would a Mormon
clown like Glenn Beck be any authority on anything?

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
Yeah, he always wants to present himself as the moral authority.
So yeah, but that actually, I believe, you know, when
that is the type of thing that George Washington, I
believe would say. If you go back and look at
his writings, he was very much about all the Founders
were very much about moral character, and so they understood

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the importance of that and the importance of having moral
people as leaders. We have given up on that and
that needs to be called out.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
I'm not you know, I'm not a Glenn Beck supporter
at all, but you know, I think that part of
it is right. But I think, you know, the criticism
of that, As I said, you know, people would look
at that and say, well, isn't interesting that this guy
is saying the kind of stuff that we've heard Glenn
Beck say and they recognize that you could influence the

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ai that it's not thinking on its own, but you're
influencing it. And yet they won't recognize that. On so
many other things. People are just going to take this
output from the computer as if it was objective truth,
and nothing could be further from the truth.

Speaker 4 (01:46:46):
A fleet is five five five, So someone should tell
warpete that Sarah Connor would not approve AI in the military.

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
Well, let's talk about the let's talk about the jet,
the data centers. There's a couple of different things. I've
been proposed. One of them they said, when you look
at the math for the power plants that are coming out,
has anybody done the math about how many hundreds of
new nuclear power plants the US will need by twenty
twenty eight for all these AI jerks to be powered.

(01:47:17):
And this came out from zero Hedge, and they're absolutely right.
When you look at the number of data centers and
the amount of power that they're going to use, it
is astronomical. Nothing is even really being done about it.
The Department of Energy recently forecasts that data centers would
need one hundred gigawatts of new peak capacity by twenty thirty,
the equivalent of about one hundred new nuclear power plants.

(01:47:42):
So are they going to run these things through and
build them really really fast? Operation warp nuclear power plant?
You know we're not going to take our time. We've
got to get it done yesterday. So let's run through this. Already,
accounting for fifty one gigawatts of demand today, data centers
are looking to add as much as seventy two gigawatts

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over the next three years. According to Morgan Stanley, there's
about twenty five gigawatts of new energy generation ready to
come online in that same timeframe, mostly in the form
of natural gas turbines, but that'll leave a gaping hole
of forty seven gigawatts. And it follows the similar estimates
from across the industry. So again, when you look at

(01:48:29):
what the estimates are from Microsoft, they're going to need
about one nuclear power plant every week. You think that's
going to happen. There's not a chance that's going to happen.
Big Tech is asking for seventeen new large reactors within
the next three years. The problem is that they aren't
building any right now, so they need another seventeen. But

(01:48:54):
they're not building any right now. However, China is in
the process of building seventeen. So in the US they
say we need building twenty nine. Brother in the US
they say we need seventeen, but they're building none. I
don't know how many China thinks that they need, but
they're building twenty nine of them. We talk about some

(01:49:15):
kind of an arms race or space race or whatever
it is, just assuming that you really wanted to have
this stuff, there's no way that these people are going
to keep up with China. And again it goes back
to the energy. Because of the Paris Climate Cord twenty fifteen,
they said China and India can build as many and
as dirty a power plants as they wish, and so

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they can build very very cheap, cheap toperate, and cheap
to create. Because they're not cleaning up anything. They can
build up real cheap and dirty coal power plants, and
they have. They've been opening them at a furious rate.
And now they're also building nuclear power plants, twenty nine
of them. And just like all manufacturing, AI is going

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to need a lot of power. I mean, you need
a lot of power. Or if you're going to build,
if you're going to manufacture stuff and heat things up
for cars and metal and things like that, that requires
a lot of power, a lot of heat. And we
are starved for that type of thing. And the Green
New Deal type of mindset, this climate change mindset has
completely destroyed manufacturing in the UK and is doing it

(01:50:20):
now in Germany as well. But we can't keep up
with the AI either. China has been given a monopoly
and all this stuff, and this has structurally been put
in place by all of these Western governments. The US
only added fifty one gigawatts in twenty twenty four compared
to China adding four hundred and twenty nine gigawatts, so

(01:50:42):
about ten times the amount. This is partially due to
China's skilled and proficient construction force, but they also are
able to do things on the cheap. What happened to
the army of nuclear construction workers that were trained for
the actors that we built recently in Georgia? You ask, well,
they quit building nuclear power plants in order to build

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data centers. So you're going to wind up with data centers,
but you're not going to have any power to run
those data centers. That's the point they're making. In other words,
you've got a limited number of workers here, so they
rush them out to build some nuclear stuff and say no,
but wait, it's a higher priority for us to do
the data centers. So it's crazy. With the average time
for connecting new demand to grids exceeding eight years, where's

(01:51:29):
all this power going to come from in the short term? Again,
they want this in three years. By the average time
to build these things is eight years, and they haven't
even started yet. Why don't we just take a supersonic
jet engine and screw it to the ground. Well, there's
a company that wants to do just that. Boom Supersonic
has unveiled their superpower natural gas turbine, capable of producing

(01:51:52):
forty two megawatts of electricity each. The company was originally
designing a supersonic jet turbine for use on next generation airliners,
but they quickly recognize the disturbing demand for new energy
generation capacity and they are now seizing the moment. Ninety
days from the concept of doing this. Once they put
the concept out, they now have one point three billion

(01:52:16):
dollars worth of back orders for their turbines, so they've
been making money at sixty nine million dollars per day.
Boom turbines have the benefit of not requiring water cooling
systems due to their advanced materials used in the turbines construction.
Specifically designed air cooling systems given the strong opposition to

(01:52:36):
water usage and smaller towns, this gives Boom a major
leg up, especially in dry areas. I guess my question
would be, then, what about sound? I mean they are
calling it Boom. I wonder what it sounds like when
you've got one of these jet engines turbines screwed to
the ground but running constantly in your neighborhood. Their capacity

(01:52:58):
for producing the super sonic turbines is expected to reach
roughly one hundred per year by twenty thirty, which is
about four gigawatts of new gas turbine energy. So no,
it won't plug the demand gap through twenty thirty, and
it certainly won't plug the massive gap with China, but
at least it's a step in the right direction. Either

(01:53:18):
more gas turbine producers will need to step up over
these few critical years, or data centers are going to
start stacking up as nothing more than order dots. So
then the next issue is, well a lot about putting
them in space. Well, the orbital data space race is
now officially begun. Data centers in low Earth orbit, or

(01:53:41):
at least the race to get these AI chips into space.
It's a new space race. That is taking shape. Elon Musk,
Jeff Bezos, Sam Altman. As a matter of fact, I
saw last week Sam Alton was looking at rocket technology.
They are all very far behind Elon Musk. Elon Musk
produces more launches then all of the countries and companies

(01:54:03):
combined at this moment. Jeff Bezos with his rocket company
Blue Origin, I think it's called again. It looked like
at the beginning he was going to be competition for
Elon Musk, but he's really fallen behind in that race.
Jeff Bezos, when he was in college, was heavily influenced

(01:54:24):
by a book that I actually enjoyed. I thought it
was a very interesting idea, George K.

Speaker 3 (01:54:28):
O'Neal.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
The book is called High Frontiers, and the idea was,
let's do manufacturing in space because we have essentially a
tremendous amount of energy can be had there, because it's
very easy to achieve extremely cold temperatures or extremely hot
temperatures just by painting something black or white. You have

(01:54:50):
the cold, the super cold of space, but you can
also heat things up quite a bit if you paint
it black and absorb the Sun's rays without any atmosphere
clouds in the way, and so their idea was, well,
let's mind a lot of materials off the Moon and
use maglev rail to send the materials up into near orbit.

(01:55:15):
They have these different areas called the Grange libration points
that are gravitationally neutral areas between the Earth and the Moon,
and so you don't have to fight to keep something
in that area. So we put our factories up there.
They get the advantage of cold, extreme cold, extreme hot,
which always can be exploited for energy, and we do

(01:55:38):
manufacturing there and then we just drop it down to
Earth afterwards. Well that's what they're talking about doing with
the data, basically dropping the data down. And I thought
it had a very interesting parallel to Hugo de Garris's
book The Artilic War, because again he said, as people
realize how these billionaires are trying to screw them with AI,

(01:56:00):
they're going to come after the billionaires. So the billionaires
are going to go off planet. They're going to go
to some of these low orbit areas lagrange libration points
or something like that, to live, to defend themselves and
to fight back against people. Well, the key thing is
going to be the data. That's where the point of
conflict is and so right now what they're doing is

(01:56:20):
they're the thinking about putting the data centers into those
areas very interesting parallel those there. People hate these things.
Number one and number two, there's a tremendous amount of
energy that is available in space. So SpaceX is playing
to raise thirty billion dollars at a one and a
half trillion dollar valuation, with some of the proceeds expected

(01:56:43):
to be used for space based data centers. Musk has
the only capable space program that could rapidly deploy space
based data centers at scale. Neither China nor Russia, not
Bezes's Blue Origin, none of them have this capability except
for Musk. Sam Altman of chat GPT attempted to buy

(01:57:06):
rocket startup Stoke Space this past summer with the intent
of joining the space race to launch AI chips into orbit.
Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday that Bezos's Blue Origin
had a team working for more than a year on
technology needed for orbital AI data centers. A person familiar
with the matter said Musk SpaceX plans to use an

(01:57:27):
upgraded version of its starlinks on lifes to host AI
computing payloads, pitching the technology is part of a share
sale that could value the company at eight hundred billion dollars.
According to people involved in discussions, the push to move
data centers into low Earth orbit is all about sidestepping
Earth's power constraints and soaking up precious resources, harnessing essentially

(01:57:50):
limitless solar energy, and leveraging space's near zero thermal environment
to keep the advanced AI chips cooling resource intensive infrastructure
off the Earth has been an idea for years, but
it has required launch and satellite costs to come down,
and we are now nearing that point, said one person.

Speaker 3 (01:58:12):
Involved in this.

Speaker 2 (01:58:13):
Let's remind readers at SpaceX is effectively America's rocket program.
It leads the world by light years. And if you
look at the number of spacecraft launched by providers, you
see that the they have eight hundred and fifty eight

(01:58:33):
hundred and fifty four launched by SpaceX. Number two is
China at eighty nine, so one tenth of that, and
then you have Russia at twenty nine and the United
Launch Alliance. I'm not sure who that is, but that
is down at twenty nine. And then the rest of

(01:58:54):
people are like, you know, one, two, three, five, eleven,
things like that. But BaseX eight hundred and ninety eight
hundred and fifty four uniquely positioned to scale the data
centers and space quickly. And so the lowest cost place
for data centers is space. When three hundred gigawatts of

(01:59:16):
computer data center you can power and cool and space
when you have continuous solar and you don't need any
batteries and you don't need to worry about cooling water either.
So I think that's where it's probably going to go. So,
as one company put it, the Galactic Brain, we really

(01:59:37):
will be uploading and downloading as US firms are planning
to do this. Another company called Etherflux, a space based
sole power company, announced its plans to build a constellation
of modular solar energy harvesting satellites and low Earth orbit.
I am not in favor of that at all. We've

(01:59:59):
talked about that before, but I won't get into it now.
The company has announced that it aims to join the
race to build data centers in orbit. The company's new
Galactic Brain project aims to circumvent the energy intensive issue
of cooling data centers on Earth by sending them to space.
So that's yet another company. But again. The one that

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can cash the checks. Essentially all these promises is going
to be Elon Musk again. So he's even talking about
making it public, but he says he wants to do
the public funding. He said orbital data centers are necessary,

(02:00:39):
as Goldman Sacks report from earlier this year point out
AI driven energy demand could rise one hundred and sixty
five percent just by twenty thirty. There's no way that
we're going to get that much done. But Musk is
confirming that he's going public, and he says that he
wants to do this at a point where it's going
to be put out for retail investors. In other words,

(02:01:02):
small investors, they're much easier to build. I think SpaceX
is preparing a record breaking IPO, targeting evaluation of about
one and a half trillion, with expectations to raise thirty
billion or more and debut in the second half of
twenty twenty six. Bloomberg's reporting that the offering would surpass
Saudi's a Ramco twenty nineteen listing and become the largest

(02:01:27):
IPO ever in history. A lot of money to be
made or lost in these things, depending on your perspective.
But this is where it's going and do we have Gerald?
How we connected with Gerald? Okay, we're going to continue
this discussion in a bit with Gerald. I'm interested to
get his take on what's coming up. We're getting close

(02:01:48):
to the end of the year, so it's time to
start looking at some projections for next year. And I'm
sure that Gerald is as upset as I am about
what we see happening in Venezuela. So we're gonna take
a quick break, folks, and we will be right back.

Speaker 1 (02:03:18):
You're listening to the David Knight Show, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:03:22):
Joining us now is Gerald Clindy of Trendsgeneral dot com.
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So it is very important and there's a lot. It's

(02:03:44):
very important right now to really understand the times that
we're in. Things are changing extremely rapidly, and Gerald has
always had his ear to the ground and his eyes
on the horizon, and he understands what's coming find some
great takes there that trans journal. So join us now
is a Joe Clint, thank you for coming on, Jeral
appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (02:04:04):
Oh, thank you for you doing Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 3 (02:04:07):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:04:09):
I've been talking this program about the future of AI
and a lot of people said, you know, well, there's
a couple of different options the way this could go.
We could have this bubble where they get out ahead
of everything that could crash like dot com, and I
thought for the longest time that was going to happen.

Speaker 3 (02:04:26):
They said.

Speaker 2 (02:04:26):
The other possibility is that it actually works as promised
and it takes everybody's jobs.

Speaker 3 (02:04:32):
So we could go.

Speaker 2 (02:04:33):
Into a depression just like that, you know, instantly as
MIT is saying, well, we think that it could take
twelve and a half percent of the jobs right now. Well,
you're talking about depression level and employment instantaneously imposed. If
they do something like that, whether or not it works,
I mean, they could still fire everybody. And then if
it doesn't work, where an even deeper do do right,

(02:04:53):
they fired everybody and the new machine doesn't work. But
those are the two possibilities. I saw somebody talking about it.
I said, yeah, but there's a third one. And that
is that the Trump administration is so hell bent on
getting this. They now see this as an existential threat
to their power and to their military hegimity, and I

(02:05:13):
think they're going to pour everything into this. I mean,
they're talking about it being like another Manhattan Project or
the Polospace program. And they're also trying to shut down
any opposition at state or local government, which I think
is about the impact of these data centers on the
power grid or on the people who live around them
that be pushback against that. So they want to shut

(02:05:34):
that down. And yet I was talking earlier about how
we just don't have the capacity to build the kind
of data centers that they need for all this stuff.
So you know, there's a big question as to what's
going to happen. It takes about eight years for these
things to roll out. They need seventeen of them. There's
currently zero and progress being built in terms of nuclear reactors,
whereas China is right now has twenty nine nuclear actors,

(02:05:58):
nuclear power plants and under construction, and they're adding multiple
coal power plants all the time as we're shutting ours down.
So what do you see happening with all these different
things coming together?

Speaker 10 (02:06:11):
There's going to be an AI bust. First of all,
AI's the future. Love it, hate it again. It's trend
four cases. It's not what you like, what you want,
what you wish for, it's what is, and it's going
to take over. And it's already doing it. And trends
are born, they grow, they make sure reach old agent die.
You and I are old enough to remember when the
Internet revolution began. Think about it, when it was just

(02:06:35):
born and when it just became popular, like in the
early nineties, you couldn't be doing what we're doing right now.
Remember you'd watch it like a movie or something on
the screen and the people would move.

Speaker 3 (02:06:48):
Like this, right, So yeah, I was using that when
we were just doing text.

Speaker 2 (02:06:55):
All you could do is text send it back and
that was even slow, right, I remember the early days
of darpnet and harpinet and things like that.

Speaker 10 (02:07:01):
Yeah, and you had to discat to put in there
and everything else. So AI's just been born. It's an
infant who's born only in twenty twenty two. To the
general public. You don't know if that's stall your money
in the infancy.

Speaker 3 (02:07:17):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (02:07:18):
So now let's go. We have forecast is going to
be a dot com bust. And this is very important.
Some fifty percent of our GDP this year has been
boosted by all this money being spent in AI. Okay, Now,
once upon a time, as you know a guy that

(02:07:40):
you really like and look up to, So I don't
want to be disrespectful.

Speaker 3 (02:07:45):
Yeah, there he is. Yeah, fliqually.

Speaker 10 (02:07:50):
I wrote, I did this T shirt back in nineteen
ninety two. Of course, I know you can't stand him
for all the crap he's done. I was being facetious.
But anyway, were China into the World Trade Organization, now
this is all about AI. Before China came into the
World Trade Organization. I mentioned this to you before, some
ten percent of Chinese eighteen year olds went to college.

(02:08:14):
Now nearly seventy percent young people are totally AII tech addicted.
They're going to college not to take courses in transgender
studies or odd history or you know, other stupid, worthless crap.
They're very much involved in AI. So again in your magazine,

(02:08:39):
the Trends Journal. So this is an article that came
out on Financial Times. China plans limited access to Nvidia's
H two hundred chips despite Trump approval. Beijing signals official
push to buy domestic AI processors. One after another, investors

(02:09:02):
flock to Chinese AI. The Chinese are going to take
over the AI world. You don't have to be good
at math to figure this out. What do they got
one point four billion people? What do we have about
three hundred and forty plus million. And they're investing very

(02:09:23):
again we write it in the magazine every week. They're
investing very, very heavily in AI and.

Speaker 2 (02:09:30):
They're investing in power to make the II work. You know,
they're building data centers here, but they don't have the
power to run the data centers. And they have been
given I've said many times when you look at the
Chinese price right, things like intellectual property, theft, currency, manipulation, slave, labor,
all these different things. Now they've added since the Paris

(02:09:51):
climate cord and things like that, they've added there giving
them a monopoly on cheap energy. That's going to be
one of the most important things because all manufacturing is
very intense energy intensive, and especially this new AI is
very energy intensive. So they have set them up to win.

Speaker 10 (02:10:09):
Yep. Yeah, and they're gonna and again there's gonna be
a dot com bust and that's going to crash the markets.

Speaker 2 (02:10:14):
So let me ask you though, in terms of the
dot com bust, because a lot of that is about
Nvidia and uh, Jensen Hwang is, you know, always on
the phone with Trump, he says, and I can believe
it because the Trump is really obsessed with AI.

Speaker 10 (02:10:31):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:10:31):
If things start looking bad, do you think, just like
the too big to fail banks, are they going to
step in and prop that up? And would that keep
it from.

Speaker 10 (02:10:39):
They could prop it up. They could prop it up
all they want. They're not gonna win. Oh I know,
but Ms Johnny just told Trump keep your nvidio chips.
We don't need them.

Speaker 3 (02:10:50):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 10 (02:10:51):
They're going to advance on this. Yeah, the trend has
just been born. You don't invest all your dough in
these losing comp and ease.

Speaker 2 (02:11:01):
So even if they put a lot of money in,
it's just going to slow down the collapse of the bubble.
Maybe it won't blow it down. Yeah, okay, No, Shina
is going to rule on this.

Speaker 10 (02:11:12):
And then going back to the loss of jobs again,
we write the data in the magazine China is going
robotic by like crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:11:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:11:21):
Yeah, and so they're going to get rid of all
these jobs that people are doing. Robots are going to
replace them. It's the new world order. Love it or
hate it, it's what it is. Again, this is important.
A little boy of nothing. I'm a guy grew up

(02:11:42):
in the Bronx, right, I know, New York City, a
little boy of nothing. Whether you like them, hate them,
want them, dislike, ain't the issue. Mandani, thirty four years
old that nobody ever heard of, becomes the mayor of
New York York City, the largest city in America, goes

(02:12:05):
back to AI and losing jobs. Gen Z was the
biggest group that turned out against him against Cuomo in
the primaries, and they won the election in November. Gen
Z and millennials were the biggest turnouts that blew Cuomo out. Now,

(02:12:28):
as a trend forecast, do you look at the world, Huh,
what's going on in Nepal, Madagascar, Morocco, tons Oniah. Can
you oh, just what happened in Bulgaria two days ago?
Gen Z's taking to the streets. They're broke and busted,

(02:12:48):
they got no future. This is serious. What happened with
the other elections?

Speaker 2 (02:12:56):
So is this trend then for socialism? Because you know,
let's say, well, we want the government to give us.
What are they going to push for? You see that yet?

Speaker 3 (02:13:06):
Are they pushing for universal basic government?

Speaker 10 (02:13:08):
They got nothing? Yeah, they have nothing. They have nothing.
They and the billionaires just keep getting richer. You look
at the cover of this week's magazine, the Trends Journal.
It's all about that, about how the billionaires are. Oh
here's another China. China signals official push to buy domestic

(02:13:30):
AI processes. I mentioned that one to you. You're also
going back to aie is college worthwhile two thirds of
Americans say no new poll fines?

Speaker 3 (02:13:42):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 10 (02:13:45):
Yeah, so yes, they're going to be socialists again. It's
not what you want, what you like, what you wish for,
it's what is. And they got nothing. They got nothing.
The billionaires own the country.

Speaker 3 (02:13:57):
Yeah it's not.

Speaker 10 (02:13:58):
And by the way, this isn't capitalism, it's fascism. It's
the merger of state and corporate Powers's that's the words
of a guy by the name of Mussolini.

Speaker 2 (02:14:09):
Yep, yeah, that's right. Well, we also look at the
war issue, and of course we got Mark Ruda, who
did the best that he could to try and destroy
food production and one of the most productive countries for
food production in the world, the Netherlands, and they kicked
him out, NATO put him in his head and he said,
we're going to have a war that's coming, that is

(02:14:31):
going to be like the ones that our grandfathers had.
So these people are pushing into World War three. As
you've always said, you know, when when everything else fails,
they take us to war and they see that people
are losing it. What's your take on what's going on
with Ukraine? Of course, you know Trump has pushed very
hard to get them to sue for peace, wants them

(02:14:52):
to give up land. They said they're not going to
give up any land. They don't want peace. And you
had Zelenski meeting with the leaders of the UK, Germany
and and France this week. What do you think is
going to happen more of the same.

Speaker 10 (02:15:06):
Yeah, they're gonna Europe is ramping up the war. Yeah,
I mean again we write the facts that little slime
bail who's the chancellor over their mertz. Germany is the
third largest economy in the world, according to the data,
the largest economy in Europe in a recession for two years.
This year, their GDP may grow by zero point two

(02:15:26):
percent nothing. They're borrowing a trillion dollars to build their
military and now our infrastructures so they could hold the tanks.
We got to stop those Russians. Oh yeah, the Germans
that killed what over twenty five million in Operation Barbara
Ross in World War One. That's the Russians. They gotta stop. Ah,
you like Germany's First World War? Yeah, France, that little

(02:15:47):
Goatson Macrone with a peck of the size of his
pencil if he has one at all, They're gonna we
gotta fight. We have to build up our military. They're all.
Europe is all building up their military.

Speaker 3 (02:15:58):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (02:16:00):
And they're saying, we got to prepare. Our children are
going to die, and of course there's not going to
be their children. It'll be your children. They're gonna die.

Speaker 10 (02:16:06):
Yeah, yeah, and again no, this will be the war.
When they ask the cat by the name of Einstein
that knew a thing or two about the atomic bomb,
it was what kind of weapons will be used to
fight the Third World War? He said, I don't know,
but they'll be using sticks and stones to fight the fourth.
All this is a waste of money. It's not building
up the economies. They're lying right out in front of

(02:16:27):
everybody's eyes. But of course the media will not report it.
When economies grow and the products they're manufactured in the
country are consumed by the consumers, these products only go
to the military industrial complex. You're not consuming bombs, planes
and boats. You know, this is a lot of crap.

(02:16:48):
So what's gonna happen. There's going to be a false
flag event. Yeah, it's going to unite the people to
fight Russia.

Speaker 3 (02:16:55):
I agree, I agree.

Speaker 10 (02:16:56):
And they've done it before, they do it again again.
You've I've read this a number of times. Don't want
to go into the whole thing about we were in
the Great Depression nineteen forty one, the Great Depression. Franklin
Roosevelt seizes all Japanese assets on July twenty sixth, nineteen
forty one, because those dirty Japanese invaded. French indote China.
Frenchendote China. What all other French doing. Cambodi allows in

(02:17:18):
Vietnam and you'll calling him French indote China. Oh, you
were in Algeria. Morocco was stealing, robbing, pillaging. The United States,
The UK and Dutch cut off three quarters of Japanese
trade eighty eight percent of their oil and stole their money.
Can't understand why they bombed Pearl Harbum, All right, how
about nine to eleven? What preceded nine to eleven? Other

(02:17:38):
dot com bust and Nasadaca was down only eighty percent.
Everybody forgot about it, and then they had the faint
housing boom and the derivative scam. So the same thing's
gonna happen. It's going to be they're gonna ramp this
thing up. And again, Russia is one hundred percent correct
as we see it for not wanting to give up

(02:18:01):
the land in the don Bas region that they've taken. Yeah,
and the reason being is that Ukrainians killed over fifteen
thousand people of Russian descent after they overthrew the democratically
elected government of Victiyanikovich in twenty fourteen. Yes, yes, and
who overtook him of the Azovs, the Nazi Ukraines? And

(02:18:26):
who's the guy playing the president? A little boy that
used to play the piano with his penis.

Speaker 2 (02:18:33):
Right, yeah, yeah, it was. You know, he got elected
on a campaign of peace in twenty nineteen that already
had five years of civil war where they were bombing
civilians in don Bass. And of course our media doesn't
talk about that. There's just been a bill introduced and
I'm sure it's not going to go anywhere, but Lee

(02:18:53):
and the Senate and Massy in the House put out
a bill to get out of NATO. They call it
the NATO Act, and they said NATO for them stood
for not a trusted organization. That was a great acronym.
That definitely sums it up. And Massey recounted what you
were just saying, you know, this the promises of you know,

(02:19:17):
the George H. W. Bush administration, James Baker saying we're
not going to go any further than this, and they've
continued to move and to encroach. I mean, it has
been a gradual process of encroachment. And of course, if
we look at you know, the Ukraine, that was called
the Ukraine before it became a country. It was part
of Russia for four hundred years, and so you could

(02:19:40):
make a lot better case for Putin going into Ukraine
than you could for US going into Venezuela. US going
into Venezuela is kind of like French Indo China. You know,
this is really twenty first century colonialism. Isn't it Yep?

Speaker 10 (02:19:55):
Yeah, this is a trends journal magazine back in twenty fourteen.
How happy that guy is. Yeah, that's the United States
overthrow of the democratically elected government of Victianikovich. Here's the
article written by doctor Paul Craig Roberts. Washington is driving
the world to the Final War. It goes on to

(02:20:16):
say Washington's concluded that Russia needed to be confronted with
or distracted by problems that would lead the Russian government
less confident or able to counter Washington's aggression. Elsewhere, Ukraine
presented the perfect opportunity. Talks about how Victoria Newland boasted
that the United States sent five billion dollars to non

(02:20:36):
governmental organizations to bring democracy to Ukraine. Now, remember this
is going on. You see this picture here, the Social Olympics. Yeah,
the Socialolympics is right before they overthrew the government the
United States. It's right here. Leading up to the Socio Olympics,

(02:20:57):
media and government officials warned of terror attacks, hotels and disrepair, filth,
yellow drinking water, and homophobes everywhere. They scared the hell
out of the American people. The ratings were weighed down
on TV they said, don't go to the Socialolympics. Him

(02:21:21):
security expert, it's not if, it's not if, but when
for Socio Olympics terror attack. Veteran security consultant Bill Rathbourne
Bill rathcrap hopes that he's wrong about the upcoming Winter
Olympics of Russia, but he has more than a hunch

(02:21:43):
that he's not. Quote the security thread is higher than
it's ever been in the history of the Olympic Games,
Wrathbourne warned. Quote, in my opinion, it's not a matter
of whether there will be some incident, it's just a
matter of how bad it's going to be. Of course,

(02:22:07):
nothing happened, total lives. But they've taught us to hate
Russia before they overthrow the government.

Speaker 3 (02:22:15):
That's right.

Speaker 10 (02:22:16):
Nobody talks about this.

Speaker 2 (02:22:18):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. This has been a very long,
steady aggression. The problem is is that things are starting
to collapse pretty quickly in Ukraine. So that means that
they're going to do something. They're going to need to
do it pretty quickly, right, so.

Speaker 10 (02:22:35):
Therefore, you know, bomb in nuclear power plant, they'll do something.

Speaker 2 (02:22:40):
Well, you have an article about European countries blaming Russia
for sabotage without providing evidence. I mean, they're already already
doing it. You know, you don't even necessarily need to
have an attack. You can just claim that there was
an attack, whether there was one or not. And if
there is an attack, then you know, you can blame
it on Russia.

Speaker 3 (02:22:58):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (02:22:59):
You saw that Matter magazine.

Speaker 3 (02:23:00):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (02:23:02):
So what is the what is the sabotage that they're
claiming without any evidence?

Speaker 10 (02:23:08):
Yep, yep. Yeah, it's it's going to keep keep expanding
and expanding. Here as forecast, battlefield conditions worsened for Ukraine.
Ukraine carry you, We're here, you go. You this from
the Trends Journal.

Speaker 3 (02:23:23):
This week.

Speaker 10 (02:23:24):
Ukraine carries out new strikes our Russian chemical plant. Europeans,
as you mentioned, European countries blame Russia for sabotage without
proving evidence. And this Putin says Russia does not want
war with Europe, but says such a conflict would be
resolved quickly. Germany cracks piggybank for war spending as new

(02:23:49):
equipment spending approaches forty billion dollars in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (02:23:56):
Yeah, it's it seems to me like, you know, Trump
is to pivot away. It's not that he's a peacemaker,
it's just that he doesn't want to get into a
war with Russia. He wants to get into a war
that he can win. And so it seems to me
like that's what's going on, as he's not only you know,
starting the war with Venezuela, but now he's also threatening Colombia,

(02:24:17):
threatening action in Mexico. What is your take on that.
Of course, the National Security statement that came out was
highly critical of Europe. The press over here is not
reporting that, but Artie reported it, and it was very
very true what he was saying about Europe. And yet

(02:24:38):
you know, they only summarize the pejoratives that he has there.
But I kind of wonder if that was for geopolitical
consumption or if Trump really believes that. I don't think
that he wants a war with Russia because it'd be
difficult to win. I think he does want a war
with Venezuela, Columbia, perhaps even Mexico because he thinks he
could win that.

Speaker 3 (02:24:58):
But it's going to be a quagmire, isn't it.

Speaker 10 (02:25:01):
We haven't won a war since World War Two, that's right,
and we haven't won that one without Russia's help. They
were the first ones to beat the Germans. I mean,
how stupid could anybody be? And again, you think we
would have invaded a rock Libya and Syria if their
major export was broccoli. Yeah, that's why they're going into Venezuela.

(02:25:28):
And oh, by the way, did you see this one
that came out heg Seth in twenty sixteen repeatedly warned
of Trump issuing unlawful military orders.

Speaker 3 (02:25:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, we played that clip. Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:25:43):
And now this is the arrogant little clown boy that
says it's okay to kill people in little boats. Yeah,
with no proof of anything. Yeah, an arrogant little piece
of scum. Yeah, a little clown from Fox. Hey, I'm
just with Terry. Defense could be to push ups.

Speaker 2 (02:26:04):
Yeah, you talk about illegal orders as people. As we
pointed out, you know, the example of you know, the
of taking somebody prisoner and not executing them is somebody
who is shipwrecked. That's the actual example that they use
in the military manuals. And when I talked about this
this week, gerald I showed a clip from The Great Escape,

(02:26:27):
you know, after they capture the prisoners they drive them
into a field and machine gun them. Right, And I said,
that is basically what we're talking about here, Right, You're
going to ignore all the rules of war, You're going
to And I think that they I think they kind
of came up with this drug war idea because they
didn't want to remind people.

Speaker 3 (02:26:43):
They didn't want to call it probition.

Speaker 2 (02:26:45):
They didn't want to remind them what a failure alcohol
probition had been and the fact that we actually had
a constitutional amendment for that. They don't want to have
any constitutional amendments for this stuff. They don't want to
This has all been against the rule of law, and
now they're escalating this. I mean, this takeover of this
thinker that's got between one and two million barrels of

(02:27:07):
oil on it, that is a major heist. I mean,
you know these people are pirates, are they?

Speaker 10 (02:27:13):
Yeah? I mean what what? Why did they take this
ship because they're going to set oil to Iran?

Speaker 3 (02:27:18):
Yeah? Why can't take it? Because they can? That's why.

Speaker 10 (02:27:22):
I mean, it's just I mean, really, that's none of
my business, isn't American Let Venezuela and Iran do what
all they want. They want to buy whatever they want
to each other. Who are you to say what they
should do? Oh, and this is the other thing again.
We wrote about it when it was happening. Some try
to overthrow the Maduro government. Back when he was president
in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, go google it up. Listen

(02:27:47):
to the State of the Union address when he bought
that little clown boy of nothing, Juan Guido. He said,
this is the real president of Venezuela. He called Maduro
back then a socialist communist.

Speaker 3 (02:28:07):
I could get him a trip to the old office,
right like mom, Danny, I got it.

Speaker 10 (02:28:12):
A social communist. Let's go back now. Had nothing to
do about drugs. It made up. This sold drug crap. Yeah,
these boats are fifteen hundred miles their little power boats.
They coming to the United States. They're fifteen hundred miles away.
There's a lot of crap. You don't bomb a boat
like this and kill people. How about the people that
were hanging on the side of boath for forty five

(02:28:34):
minutes they killed? Yeah, and they sell the crap that
they had armaments and they were going to attack.

Speaker 2 (02:28:40):
Yeah, premeditated murder.

Speaker 10 (02:28:42):
Where's the Oh, forget the outrage. I forgot about the
slaughter of the Palestinian people. Who cares about that?

Speaker 2 (02:28:48):
Yeah, yeah, and disgust me to see these MAGA influencers
out there, you know. And how do you like Megan
Kelly saying I want to own him to suffer. I
owed them to bleed for a one time, not just
kill him my away. Yeah, it is amazing. I got
a come in here from three Little Birds said I'll
make it to your next rally.

Speaker 3 (02:29:05):
Gerald. When is it planned for?

Speaker 10 (02:29:08):
You know? No? And I have to tell you, you know,
it's so disappointing. All these billionaires don't give a penny
for peace. It'll probably next September, but it's if we're
still here, if they don't kill us by then. And
it's heartbreaking. Not a penny for peace. The billionaires are

(02:29:29):
getting richer and richer. Everybody's getting poorer and poorer. Not
a word about peace, Not a word about peace. Nobody
in the major media is allowed to be on with
the prostitute media. If you talk about peace zero zero.
You know this is an article, by the way, this
is the one. No, yeah, here we go. Trump willing

(02:29:53):
to seize more oil tankers or Venezuela coast. White House
official sets official. How about an official piece of crape?
Official at you, it's just official crap. You're not an official.
You're a piece of scump. And get us in your head,
you little clowns, your public servants. You got it. No, no, Celente,

(02:30:19):
you're a plantation worker on slave Landia. Yeah, and catch
it again the headline, Trump willing to seize more oil tankers.

Speaker 2 (02:30:33):
Huh Yeah, Trump is gonna go season.

Speaker 10 (02:30:38):
Hey fat boy, Hey fat boy, you're gonna go season.
Oh you got five draft deferments in the Vietnam War?
Or I could. I gotta spur on my girl. You
gotta spur on your brain. Yeah, my draft deferments. And
look at the warmongering light s O B that light

(02:31:00):
his way into office. I won't start a war. I'll
stop wars. Remember all the lies he said about being
a peaceman when he's running for president. Yeah, one quote
after another.

Speaker 2 (02:31:12):
I wonder which one of his sons is going to
go down there and fight in the war. Is it
going to be Barren? Is it going to be Donald
Trump Junior? You know he had a No, it's going to.

Speaker 10 (02:31:19):
Be the same thing like nt yag with the woolmongoose kids.
In hiding Miami.

Speaker 3 (02:31:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:31:25):
As a matter of fact, Donald Trump Junior is doing
just fine, isn't he. You point out in trends General
the deal that he made with Vulcan Elements, right yep,
getting Pentagon money, you know, part of the military industrial complex,
massive amount of money. I mean, look, it's no different
than what we said about Hunter Biden. You know, how
did he get involved in this Ukrainian oil company when

(02:31:48):
he doesn't know anything about the oil industry. Well, certainly
Donald Trump doesn't. Trump Junior doesn't know anything about these
companies that are getting the six hundred and twenty million
dollars Pentagon loan and another one his four million dollar
steak and unusual machines paid off, and the Pentagon ordered
thirty five hundred drone motors to point out, and you

(02:32:13):
know this is how he's cashing in. I got a
couple of questions here for you, Jerald, rumble da, thank you,
says David. Can you ask Jerald about Saudi Arabia joining
bricks and selling oil on precious metals? Is Venezuela about
preserving the dying US petro dollar? Do you think that's
an aspect of it?

Speaker 10 (02:32:33):
You know, it's it's again they want they want the oil,
There's no question about it. And again this is very important.
Trump wants to do everything he can to try to
boost the economy. That's why they lowered interest rates again.
And when you look at the price of bread crude,
what is it now selling for around sixty one dollars

(02:32:55):
a barrel. Yeah, he wants to keep oil prices down.
Last year at this time it was like eighty dollars
a barrow. So that's why he wants to steal the oil.

Speaker 3 (02:33:05):
Well, when he stole the aill, the price actually went up.

Speaker 10 (02:33:08):
I just say what they want. They want to keep
the price of oil down. And again, particularly as they're
trying to build up all these these these places for
the for the AI crap, so they want to get
as much energy in any way they can and steal
it as much as they can. Number two, with Saudi
Arabia joining bricks, you know, it's a guessing game because

(02:33:29):
Saudi Arabia is very much involved with the United States.
Look that they gave that little boy of nothing, Jared
Kush and his son in law two billion dollars for
his company.

Speaker 3 (02:33:38):
Yeah, two billion bucks. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:33:41):
Oh, and look at all. Look at all the Trump
towers and Trump this and Trump that opening up in
the United Arab Emirates and in Saudi Arabia and all
of these countries. That's why they're not The Arabs have
not come out against what Israel is doing because they're
all on the same team. I remember that guy that
just came over the prints over there with that guy

(02:34:02):
that killed the the American.

Speaker 2 (02:34:05):
Reporter Mohammed Ben chopping. Ye, he's been chopping people up. Yeah, MBS.

Speaker 10 (02:34:13):
Yeah, you know right, Look a look at how Trump.
Look look at the disgusting show he put on with it.

Speaker 3 (02:34:19):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 10 (02:34:21):
So going back to gold, gold today was up before
he went on the air, it was hot. It went
up to hit a high today of four thousand, three
hundred and fifty four. It lost all of it when
I went back on the when time we went on
the air. But now when I went when we came
on the air, it was selling it around four thousand,

(02:34:43):
two hundred and eighty five four two hundred and eighty
five bucks.

Speaker 3 (02:34:48):
Yeah, go back.

Speaker 10 (02:34:50):
Trends Journal September twenty twenty three. We said gold prices
bottom when they hit one thousand, eight hundred and fifty.
Go to your trends journal January second. A couple of
months later, twenty twenty four, Golden year for gold. Hold
up thirty percent last year and now it's up. Look

(02:35:13):
at silver prices up over one hundred percent this year.

Speaker 1 (02:35:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:35:17):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 10 (02:35:20):
Prices are going up because the world is going down.
I've been at this for forty five years. Yeah. One
of my books, trend Tracking Ball Better than Mega Trends.
Time Magazine nineteen was about eighty eight. It's how I
became a trend four carester. I started buying gold in
nineteen seventy eight one hundred and sixty three dollars I

(02:35:41):
think it was announced one hundred and sixty to something dollars,
and now it's about four thousand, almost three hundred.

Speaker 3 (02:35:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:35:48):
Okay, now here's the deal. Go back to October sixteenth,
the podcast I did. I said gold prices could drop
some five hundred dollars an ounce. A couple of days later,
gold hit four thousand, three hundred and eighty dollars an ounce.

(02:36:11):
A couple of days after that. A week later, gold
dropped some five hundred dollars an ounce. Now it's down
about one hundred dollars an ounce from its high. Okay,
here's the deal gold as we see it. We don't
tell people what to do. Gold has to stabilize strongly

(02:36:34):
in the four thousand, two hundred dollars an ounce range,
like four thousand, two hundred and eighty four thousand, two
hundred and sixty for a week or two and stays
in that range. Or if, of course, if it goes higher,
it's going to keep going higher. If it goes down
to the three thousand, nine hundred, three thousand, eight hundred,

(02:36:58):
you could see it drop back again. It's about three
thousand and five hundred, and then it'll go back up again.
And that's the way we see gold going. And silver
very important. Silver is used in more and more again,
everything going ai. The more it goes like this, the
more it keeps happening, the more use of silver. So

(02:37:21):
let's say your cell phone busts or your computer. You
throw the damn thing away, right, there's silver in it.
If your ring doesn't fit you anymore and you want
to get it, you've melted the gold ring. You melt
it down, you keep the gold. There's gold reserves. There's
no silver reserves. Number two, Silver prices are going up

(02:37:43):
because people can't afford to buy gold and they're concerned
about the future. So we're positive on both of them
long term, but we're just telling you the short term
what to look for, because if you're just buying or selling,
you know something to consider. So that's where we see
going in that direction and going back to the bricks.

(02:38:05):
This is important again, I started buying gold in nineteen
seventy eight. Now totally important. You get the Trends Journal
and again everybody go tonight. You get ten percent off.
Of course you're like two dollars or fifty cents a week.
You go back. They taught they didn't say a word
about rising gold prices. We had in the magazine up

(02:38:27):
until around October. Not a word in the mainstream media.
Not a word was going over every the Wallshitt Journal,
the New York Times, one after another. Not a word,
not a word. They don't want people to know how
bad it was going. Number two, there's no relationship between
now and nineteen seventy eight, when goal price is spiked zero.

(02:38:51):
Here's why. Let's go back to nineteen seventy eight at
a country called China, before Slick Willie brought him into
the Trade Organization. Back then, China's gross domestic product in
nineteen seventy eight was around one hundred and fifty billion
dollars today nearly twenty trillion. Got it, Yeah, China is

(02:39:24):
going to be the world. As I say, the twentieth
century was the American century, but the twenty first century
is going to be the Chinese century because the business
of China is business and the business of America is war.
China is investing like crazy. They become self sufficient. They

(02:39:48):
don't need made in America because the slime balls like
Clinton that brought China to the World Trade Organization went
to China, the Western Nations and gave China all the
heavy industry and high tech technology they never had. And
remember when they first went there into twenty two. They

(02:40:09):
China officially joined two weeks after nine to eleven. Look
at the profits that BMW Ford General Motives. All of
these companies that went over to Europe from Europe and
the United States that went over to China to get
their products made. The Chinese people were buying them up.

(02:40:31):
They were making a load of money, getting cheap labor
manufacturing their products there. And then what happened We don't
need your products anymore. Hey, who's the biggest the seller
of ev is China, isn't it? They're taking over. They
don't need anything that we have. We gave them everything
we have. And this is why I have this T

(02:40:52):
shirt that you could get if you go to Trends Journal.

Speaker 3 (02:40:58):
Yeah, who are you to tell me what you do? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (02:41:02):
Yeah, they sold us out. They did a little slime
ball like Bill Clinton wasn't worth a penny, a little
nothing of crap? What's he worth now? About one hundred
and fifty million dollars? Hey? How about Obama?

Speaker 4 (02:41:18):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (02:41:18):
Look at my mentioned all right, I was a little
nobody from Chicago. Look at me now, Hey, hey you
let me over the piece, remember that lie?

Speaker 2 (02:41:30):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (02:41:30):
Yes, as as he gets elected, what does he do
Afghan troop search?

Speaker 3 (02:41:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (02:41:36):
I went that guy Kadaffi out of there. I went
the guy Sot out of there. Oh yeah, and everybody
suck your crap, didn't they?

Speaker 4 (02:41:44):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (02:41:44):
And he won the Nobel Piece of Crap prize winner
like the other crap had just won it.

Speaker 3 (02:41:48):
Now, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (02:41:52):
While we were talking about silver and gold, I have
another question here from DG eight, says David can you
ask Gerald about India placing silver and a a one
to ten ratio to gold one tenth raceio to gold.
I had not seen that. That is much much higher
price for silver than we've seen here in terms of ratio,
And I don't know exactly. Do you know what he's

(02:42:12):
talking about there in India?

Speaker 10 (02:42:14):
No, I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (02:42:15):
Yeah, I've not seen that, but I do know that
India was the retail trade pretty much in India part
of their religious thing. It caused that big squeeze for
actual physical possession of the metals out of the London
area when they had as part of their religious celebration,
they typically acquire gold, but they had a lot of

(02:42:35):
influencers said well this year you need to get silver.
And so it created this tremendous whiplash of stuff because
I'd already sent a lot of silver out of London
to the US because they're worried that Trump was going
to terrif it. And so then it's going back and
forth between the two different areas. We got high Boot says,
Please ask Gerald if the Venezuela thing is a distraction

(02:42:58):
from the Epstein files be released. He always says that
when in doubt. Take them to war. Venezuela is out
of left field for sure. What do you think they've
talked about that?

Speaker 10 (02:43:09):
Yeah, Epstein, But they just came out with all the
people with pictures of Epstein, Danning what to shirk after
the other Gates, Clinton, Trump, and they're gonna, they're gonna,
they're gonna delete everything that they want, so we don't
know the truth.

Speaker 3 (02:43:25):
Yeah, that's right, that's right to.

Speaker 10 (02:43:27):
Delete everything that they want, so we don't need the truth. Ee,
what disgusting piece of crap? Oh didn't didn't Clinton pardon him?
But when he was for some crap that he did?

Speaker 2 (02:43:41):
Yeah, well pretty much they got. You know, the Clinton
connection that I saw was ken Starr, who basically let
all these serious charges against Clinton just go away, and
he came after him for the technical perjury crime about
consensual relationship between him and Monica Lewinsky, And of course
kin Starr was the defense attorney for Jeffrey Epstein. So

(02:44:04):
you know, it's a it's it's a club that we
aren't in, and I'm glad we're not in that club.
But uh, this is the Clinton.

Speaker 10 (02:44:12):
I didn't have sex with that woman, Monica Winsley. Are
you surely. Ye.

Speaker 2 (02:44:18):
Well, here's an interesting one, Jerald, what are.

Speaker 10 (02:44:21):
You talking about? What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (02:44:23):
Here's an interesting question here. This is from Jersey Boys
eighty ninety. Says, uh, when will housing prices go back down?
When two point oh happens?

Speaker 10 (02:44:31):
Going down?

Speaker 3 (02:44:32):
Now?

Speaker 1 (02:44:32):
Well?

Speaker 2 (02:44:33):
Yeah, well, silver, he says, when the dot com crash
two point oh happens, will silver and gold and housing
prices go down? Will tuition prices go down?

Speaker 10 (02:44:43):
What do you know, sil when the dot com crash happens,
silver and gold price is gonna skyrocket.

Speaker 3 (02:44:50):
Mm hmmm, that's right.

Speaker 10 (02:44:51):
And housing prices or are already going down, they're going
to keep going down. But we don't see a housing crash.
Prices are definitely going to go down, and things go
up and they go down. I ended up buying three buildings.
And you've been up here. You saw the beautiful buildings.

(02:45:11):
I have three revolutionary word stone buildings. I bought three
of them twenty and twelve at the bottom of the market.
I paid for the seventeen fifty Franz Rogan house with
a huge yard where I have the rallies. You ready,

(02:45:33):
three hundred and I think it was like seventy five
thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (02:45:38):
Wow, that's the deal.

Speaker 10 (02:45:40):
Yeah, everything was at the bottom. Now it's worth well
over a million, three hundred and seventy five. Because Kingston
is one of the hottest spots. People from the city
flood up here for the beauty of the place. And anyway,
there's going to be a time to buy real estate.

(02:46:01):
It's not now things are going to go down, but
things site there's a cycle again. If we don't get
wiped out by war by the way, yeah right, because
that'll that'll be the end of life on earth. And
but minus that, there's a time to buy real estate.

(02:46:21):
And for me, my life has been precious metals in
real estate. And so yes, prices, housing prices are going
to go down. They're not going to go back up
again until they bring mortgage rates down to like the
three or four percent range, and they're not near that.

Speaker 2 (02:46:44):
Now, Well, what do you think is going to happen?
That brings up the issue of Trump getting to appoint
the next FED chair It mayo next year or something
like that. Now, interest rates, lower interest rates, that's going
to drive gold and silver up.

Speaker 10 (02:46:58):
And because the lower interest rates go, the deeper the
dollar falls. Yeah, right, I forgot to go back. We
were talking about the bricks. The bricks now control and again,
as they said, there's no relationship between now in nineteen
seventy eight. The bricks are in control now of some
forty percent of the world's gross domestic product and they've

(02:47:22):
had enough of the United States.

Speaker 3 (02:47:23):
Yeah, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 10 (02:47:25):
So there's going to be the death of the dollar.
So a very bullish on gold and silver. And again
I don't give advice, but you buy it, you put
it away. You buy it, you put it away, bide,
put it away, bide, put it away, bide, put it away,
and when you get older, you got it.

Speaker 3 (02:47:44):
Yeah, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (02:47:46):
That's why what Tony does with his wisewolf that just
gradually accumulated on a monthly basis, like a subscription type
of thing. That's great, But you know that's the other
part of it. Everybody knows that the financial system is
in the middle of being reset and all the bricks
people saw how they stole money from Russia. They don't
want to have a part of that. They were already

(02:48:08):
opposed to the US having a jiminy on the financial
system and being able to borrow whatever they wanted to
and definitely and essentially just print all this money up.
But now you've got not just the bricks, but you've
also got the people who are pushing even on the
American side with the stable coin and anybody who's trying
to set up some kind of alternative financial system, whether

(02:48:30):
it's stable coin and tether and other people. Everybody's going
out there and accumulating gold because a goal if you
have gold, and that builds your credibility with people that
you can actually essentially write, you know, cash the checks
that you're writing for your new financial system. So there's
a couple of different you know, things out there that
people are trying to establish with financial systems, and they're

(02:48:51):
all in competition with each other to get gold.

Speaker 3 (02:48:54):
Yep. Yeah again.

Speaker 10 (02:48:56):
You know, I want to mention this too about Trump.
You know how they say is out of it his mind.
You know, a couple of weeks ago, they had this
picture of Trump when he kept falling asleep at the
cabinet meeting several times, and that little clown boy over
there on CNN, the Cartoon News Network, Jake Tapper, he

(02:49:19):
said that quote, look, Trump's seventy nine years old. I mean, like,
this is not abnormal for a seventy nine year old
to be sleepy. Hey, hey, jerk off over there in CNN.

(02:49:39):
I'm seventy nine years old. I don't get sleepy. You
got it? Fat head? Who the hell are you to
say that? Maybe because you're in crappy shape, because you
got a crappy head. Don't you tell me that garbage?

Speaker 3 (02:49:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:49:59):
Yeah, we're talking about how he has this bandage on
his hand and it doesn't seem to be healing.

Speaker 3 (02:50:04):
I was looking at that and I said.

Speaker 2 (02:50:05):
That's really God, that's really surprising considering how fast is
ear heeled. Right, I've always had a question mark about
that earshot that they said. You know, it's like, how
did that thing heal? And he's got no scar on
it would just healed just like that. But he's got
a bruise on his hand and he can't get that
to heel.

Speaker 3 (02:50:23):
It's uh, yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:50:24):
This is the first book I worked on in the
nineteen eighties when no one was talking about so I
don't want to hear this crap so good. So we
were doing an interview with Gerald, So I tell you
this is David Knight, and he fell asleep as we
were talking. It's natural for a seventy nine year old guy.

(02:50:47):
So we understand that Gerald was sleepy. All right, what
if I fell asleep as we're talking.

Speaker 3 (02:50:54):
We never have to worry about that, do we just say?

Speaker 10 (02:50:57):
What a bunch of crap? Oh it went by the way.
The Trump eats junk food.

Speaker 2 (02:51:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right, Yeah he does. He's not
on a healthcake at all. It's it's amazing that he's
been able to get as as far as he has.

Speaker 10 (02:51:15):
Actually, how about he goes like this? He goes, hey,
how about that? Man? Could you move like that?

Speaker 3 (02:51:21):
Could you move like that? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (02:51:24):
Hey how about this? Could you do that? Could you
do this? All right?

Speaker 3 (02:51:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:51:29):
Yeah, he's got some issues. That was funny that he's
talking about how aced the cognitive tests when they ask
him questions about elephants and other things like that. It's like, yeah,
it's just kind of I don't know what kind of
a cognitive tests.

Speaker 10 (02:51:43):
As much as I can stand Trump, I couldn't stand genocide.
Joe Biden.

Speaker 3 (02:51:49):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 10 (02:51:51):
The wore, little mongering scum of nothing, Barack Obama, little
Georgie Bush and daddy's boy with a Pera cohoons his
size of a morthball that got us into the Iraq
and Afghan War. Slick Willie Clinton, Jimmy Kada, Jimmy Kata.
Oh you deregulate the airline industry and created al Qaeda.

(02:52:14):
Oh you forgot about the Osama bin Laden. Oh no,
that was different back then. What was that? What did
they call it on the Brazinski? Uh? Uh, well Cada
that became now the Mujiahdeen.

Speaker 3 (02:52:27):
Actually, yeah, he actually had that.

Speaker 2 (02:52:30):
Old warmonger John McCain was going around to Republican women's
meetings and saying, hey, you want to sponsor a moves
and he had one of the Mujiahdeen's.

Speaker 10 (02:52:39):
With him, that Jimmy Kada, Jimmy Kada. That that set
the stage for banks to become in state. Back then,
the Bank of America was only in California. M that
slime ball that everybody looks up to one piece of
government cra after and all the again, if you didn't

(02:53:02):
call them politicians, you call them gangsters.

Speaker 3 (02:53:06):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (02:53:07):
Well, I tell you that really is what is happening
with in Azuela, isn't it? It truly is amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:53:11):
I mean they're.

Speaker 2 (02:53:12):
Just just pirates and gangsters, you know, and he's threatening, well,
you're next in Columbia. You know, we're gonna I guess
maybe they're they want the cocaine market as well as
the oil market.

Speaker 10 (02:53:24):
Remember the book was a racket.

Speaker 2 (02:53:26):
That's right, Yeah, yes, Medley Bucker Butler. Now ye, racketeering
and corrupt organizations. That pretty much just sums up the
federal government right there. The story about the silver ratio
was from the Jerusalem Post. Dga tells us, so appreciate that,
we'll go back and take a look at that. Jersey
boy asks what about He says, what would be a

(02:53:47):
good idea to trade in silver? When he gets to
the low fifteen to one ratio to gold? You know,
what's your take in terms of owning silver or gold?

Speaker 10 (02:53:57):
You know, I own both, and I wish I had
bought more silver, but very again, I don't, you know,
I'm very blessed for what I have. And so you know,
you use your own thinking, and you know, keep learning
about as much as you can possibly learn, and then
you make you know, listen to the different people and

(02:54:18):
then you decide. And by the way, I read like
we talk about the Israel War I subscribe to hot
's the Israeli newspaper, but I go to Jerusalem Post,
Times of Israel, Why Net, what do you everything the
Israelis have to say? I also go to I r
N A, I s N A, PRESTV, Tehron Times. Why
you know what the Iranians have to say? I go

(02:54:39):
to Arab News, Al Jazeera, Middle East Monitor, Middle East Die.
When you hear what the Arabs have to say, I
go to Arab News again. I go to euro Neews
France twenty four, BBC, Guardian, on and on. We listen
to what everybody has to say, and then we say,
this is what they're saying, this is our analysis. Is

(02:55:00):
where you see it going. You don't take one side.
You have to be open minded and again you look
at things to the way they are, not the way
you want them to be. Yeah, and you got to
make connections between different fields. You know, opportunity misses those
who view the world through the eyes of their profession.

Speaker 3 (02:55:19):
That's a good quote.

Speaker 2 (02:55:20):
Yeah, well, it's kind of interesting how how people get
tunnel vision over things.

Speaker 3 (02:55:25):
Jim, we talked about war and PISA.

Speaker 2 (02:55:27):
I don't know if you saw this from Mike Huckabee,
who he says, well, Israel didn't attack Cutter, They fired
a missile at them, and they fired that missile at
a person.

Speaker 3 (02:55:36):
Yes, it kills some.

Speaker 2 (02:55:37):
Other people, but there's a basically it's a personalized missiles
what he's trying to say. And uh, you know, collateral damage,
I guess, as the Pentagon likes to put it. But
it'd be funny if it wasn't so tragic in terms
of the mass murder. But the lies are actually kind
of getting humorous. They're so obvious that are out there

(02:55:58):
with these with these warm.

Speaker 10 (02:55:59):
Mindy now thing. The stupid article about Neanderthals used to
kiss twenty million years ago? How do they know twenty
million years ago? No, No, everything began when God told
Abraham that Moses that this lad belongs to the Jewish
people three thy five hundred years ago. Save your fairy

(02:56:19):
tale for somebody else, hu huncle Berry don't want to
hear you blogy.

Speaker 3 (02:56:24):
Yeah, well I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:56:24):
I don't believe the fairy tale that he has out
there is what the Bible says. That's the that's the
key issue. I think he has created a fairy tale,
But I don't think you.

Speaker 10 (02:56:33):
Know, we don't know. We don't get twenty million, thirty
million years ago there was life on earth. We have
no clue what's happened and why we've been wiped out
or came back or whatever it was. And they have
no clue, and they're just to me, you know who knows?
You know who knows? Thirty million years ago?

Speaker 2 (02:56:51):
Yeah, well I don't. I don't believe those dates either,
And I don't think they can tell when they were
they were kissing twenty million thirty years ago.

Speaker 3 (02:56:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:56:59):
Yeah, there's a that's a lot of people have a
lot of different fables about different things that are out there,
but it truly is interesting. And you know, when you're
talking about gold what kind of a target are you
looking for? I've seen targets put out there by Goldman,
Sachs and JP Morgan others. They seem to be coming

(02:57:21):
in around forty nine hundred. They don't want to say
five thousand, although Jamie demon did say five thousand to
ten thousand.

Speaker 3 (02:57:28):
He thinks that it go to pretty soon. But what
do you think.

Speaker 2 (02:57:32):
I mean, I've seen a lot of them saying they
thought next year forty nine hundred. Maybe they're pricing in
you know what Trump is going to do once he
gets his fed chair in there.

Speaker 10 (02:57:41):
See the same thing forty nine five yeah, five, yeah. Again,
when the dot com bust happens, which they won't talk about,
and they only started talking about this only a couple
of months ago, we've been talking about it. Covery Trends
Journal Magazine, February fifth, dot com bust two point zero
bus happens, You're going to see goal prices skyrocket. Yeah,

(02:58:04):
it got the The toilet paper Record in New York
Times came out with an article a couple of days
ago that's saying this is different than the dot com
bust because the companies now have a lot of money
behind them, you know, like the like uh, you know,
all the big companies. They're not hurting for dough. That

(02:58:25):
doesn't make a difference. When the markets crash, it's not
about the companies. It's about all the markets go, all
the people losing money in the markets and how they're
going down.

Speaker 3 (02:58:34):
So, yeah, that's back to the point you made.

Speaker 2 (02:58:37):
Back to the point you made about you know, even
with the federal government coming in and subsidizing these companies,
if it's clear that that everything is moving to China
because they've got the they've got the data centers, and
they've got power for their data centers, and they've got
their own domestic chips that they're working on as well
as their software. Once that becomes apparent and then it

(02:59:00):
crashes regardless. So for these people are getting money from
the federal government will be what you're saying.

Speaker 10 (02:59:05):
Yeah, and I'm telling you this is going to crash.
It's going to crash, and the crash is going to
come sooner rather than later. We're in a holiday season,
people on holidays. Stay on mind. That still doesn't mean
it can't go down because golds go back to December
twenty eighteen, not ancient history. It was the worst dow

(02:59:25):
since the Great Depression.

Speaker 3 (02:59:26):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (02:59:27):
Yeah, and that's when Trump forced Powell.

Speaker 3 (02:59:30):
To lower interest This well, it's going to be an
interesting year.

Speaker 2 (02:59:33):
It's all the more reason for you to get a
subscription to Trends Journal and to be able to identify
these trends. Again, you can use a code night to
save ten percent off. Thank you so much, Cheryl. Always
interesting to talk to you. Maybe the next time we
talk we get some projection projections for the next year.

Speaker 3 (02:59:48):
For twenty twenty six.

Speaker 10 (02:59:50):
Thank you coming out with the top trends very soon
beginning of January.

Speaker 3 (02:59:54):
So great.

Speaker 10 (02:59:55):
But I'm tired now, I can't. I gotta cook.

Speaker 3 (03:00:00):
Thank you. I have a great weekend. Oh everybody, thank you.

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