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December 19, 2025 182 mins
In this episode of The David Knight Show, we dive into the escalating tensions in the Caribbean as the U.S. government engages in what looks suspiciously like piracy on the high seas. David breaks down the "Narco-Terrorism" narrative being used to justify a potential war with Venezuela, the seizure of oil tankers, and the dangerous geopolitical game involving Russia and China. Is this really about drugs, or is it about the gold and oil?

We also examine the stunning reversals of former anti-establishment figures now within the Trump administration. From Tulsi Gabbard’s silence to Pete Hegseth’s defense of "illegal orders" and hidden combat videos, we look at how power changes principles.


War for Oil & Gold:
Analysis of the U.S. naval buildup off Venezuela, the seizure of a massive tanker, and why the "Narco-Terrorism" label is a pretext for regime change and resource control.

The Hypocrisy of "War Pete":
A look at Pete Hegseth’s refusal to release video footage of military strikes on shipwrecked individuals and the administration’s shifting stories.

EU "Piracy":
How the European Union is moving to seize frozen Russian assets to fund the war in Ukraine, and the global financial implications of this theft.

Medical Tyranny & The Environment:
Discussion on the environmental dangers of flushing chemical abortion drugs into the water supply and Bill Gates’ latest push for "quantum dot" vaccine records and implants.

The Case for Miracles:
A spiritual look at Lee Strobel’s work and the reality of divine intervention in the modern world.


Special Guest: Jack Lawson, author of the Civil Defense Manual, joins the show to discuss the fragility of our modern infrastructure. From EMP threats to AI-driven cyber attacks, Jack explains why the grid is more vulnerable than ever and gives practical advice on essential preparedness, starting with water storage.










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Speaker 1 (00:29):
In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a
revolutionary act.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's the David Knight Show. How the Clock strikes thirteen.
It's Friday, the eighteenth of December. You have our Lord
twenty twenty five. Well, we have more piratry. We're gonna
be talking about pirates and pieces of gold and as

(00:58):
well as what is glittering here at Christmas. Amazing news
about what is going on in Venezuela, and everybody's talking
about Oh wait a minute, I thought that we're going
to have war declared there. We'll just wait. I think
they've set in motion the things that are going to
draw us into war very very quickly, may have it

(01:20):
by Christmas. Of course, you know they're already canceled leave
for the military for Christmas. Trump, however, is giving the
bureaucracy a couple of extra days so they get the
day before the day after Christmas off this year. Isn't
he nice? He's not scrooge at all. We'll be right back. Well,

(02:12):
we're going to talk a little bit about it wasn't
actually in December, but it's actually in July. But it
was one hundred years ago that we had the scopes
trial here in Tennessee, And so we talk a little
bit about that. What does it tell us about the truth.
What does it tell us about our attitudes towards the truth?
What does it tell us about our attitudes about releasing data.

(02:33):
I think the Christians made a big tactical error there
in terms of trying to prohibit speech that we disagree with.
That I think is easily disproven. You don't want to
try to hide things.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
This is a.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Mistake that Pete Hegseth is making right now. As a
matter of fact, he keeps saying, well, of course I'm
not going to show you the video of the second strike.
They have proudly displayed the video of every single one
of these strikes, including that first one. And I said,
when I saw that, I said, that's unjustified. Well, they
don't want you to see is video of shipwrecked people

(03:12):
trying to stay afloat on wreckage, waving for help, being
executed by the US military under his orders. And so
that is the real issue. Many people calling them out
on it, of course now. But I think as we
look at the war, this is all coming up again,
Because it is going to come up again us. I

(03:33):
think it is imminent, the war that is there. He
didn't move the aircraft carrier there for nothing. And it's
not even really about as always, it's not about what
Trump says. It's about he's now starting to talk about
the reality of it, the resources that he wants because

(03:55):
he is a pirate king. But I think he had
This has brought up a lot yesterday because the press
conference that Trump held, so going to do a primetime
press conference, and everybody was saying, Oh, this is it.
It's going to be war. He's going to announce for it,

(04:17):
and he's going to do that. I don't think at all.
He will wait until finally somebody takes a shot, or
maybe they just have a gun on their ship and
maybe they just point it in the general direction and
don't even pull the trigger. That will be justification. And
that's when all the big shooting starts. And they've already

(04:37):
got their navy that is escorting the ships. Here's their
video they put out, and it's kind of silly. They've
got this rock and roll soundtrack. You can pull that down, Travis,
But here's a quick look at the Venezuelan navy before
it disappears. Because there's absolutely no way that this is
going to be able to be competitive in terms of

(04:58):
firepower of what the US government has if we go
back and we look at other asymmetric warfare like the
Falcon Islands War. They sunk the General Belgrano, and that
was a big issue as whether or not that was necessary.
It was an ancient, ancient ship at the time, you know,
forty or fifty years old, i think, and two hundred

(05:18):
and fifty people from Argentina died on that. Argentina decided
that for the sake of hubrist they were going to
take back the Falcon Islands, which had been under British
control for quite some time. And Britain decided they were
not going to do it, specifically Margaret Thatcher, and so
they sent this long armada giving them time to get
off of the island. They didn't, and as a very

(05:40):
one sided war, however, there were casualties. Even in a
very one sided war, even with somebody who's got this
antiquated battleship quote unquote that's been passed down from one
country to the other and it's pulled out the salvage
yard and put people on it. Even in a scenario
like that, they didn't have a jet in my recollection.

(06:00):
They fired a French missile and Exocet missile and I
think it was the The Sheffield was the name of
the British ship that it got hit with it and
you know, destroyed that ship essentially. So even on land,
once the troops got on land, it was a pretty
one sided affair. However, one of the British military people,

(06:24):
I think it was a commander, was killed in that action.
The bottom line is they don't care, you know, they
look at it it's like, well, when I don't care
what the casualties are that we take, you know, we'll
name some bridge after them, or we'll put a plaque
up somewhere, but we'll get what we want. This is
the ruthlessness of politicians. They don't care about their lives

(06:45):
of their people. They don't care about the lives of
other people as well. And of course I think the
whole thing was kicked off by the pride of the
Argentines deciding that they needed to take that island back
in the first place. They could have just left everything alone,
but they didn't. And so now you look at what
Trump is doing with this, and I think it's very

(07:05):
interesting because over and over again we see people who
take a very principled stand about things, and then Trump
appoints them, and then they betray those principles. Over and
over again. We have seen this movie play out, and
Tulsa Gabbert is a good example of this. When Trump

(07:28):
was in power in his first term, Tulsa Gabbard talked
about Trump's actions towards Venezuela and how corrupt they were.
Why isn't she saying anything now as Director of National Intelligence. Well,
because she wants to stay Director of National Intelligence. It

(07:48):
doesn't matter to her what happens to Americans or to Venezuelans,
or whether we have a war or not. She doesn't
want to go to war with Trump. That's the way
that is with Republicans as well. Here's what she had
to say back then when she was going to tell
you the truth.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
The United States has a disastrous history of military intervention
and regime change around the world, which has brought suffering
to millions of People's bankrupted our country, dishonored our troops,
and it's undermined our national security. We must end this
policy now before we get into yet another military conflict,

(08:24):
this time in Venezuela. Now, President Trump and his administration
have already instituted heavy sanctions on Venezuela. They've doubled down
on their position that all options are on the table.
I wholeheartedly support the Venezuelan people as they fight for
a free and fair democracy. But the United States should

(08:45):
not be in the business of intervening of picking who
should lead their country, and we certainly should not be
threatening military action. Venezuela poses no threat to the United States.
Congress has not authorized the United States to go to
war in Venezuela, and there's no justification for our country
to violate the sovereignty.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Of the Venezuelan people.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Now, the reality is that threats of US military action
and regime change in Venezuela is undermining ongoing efforts to
convince North Korea to give up their nuclear weapons program,
which exists because Kim Jong un sees it as the
only deterrent against.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
US led regime change.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Now President Trump is promising North Korea we will not
wage regime change war against them, but at the same
time is simultaneously threatening regime change in Venezuela. North Korea
is going to look at President Trump's actions, not at
empty promises. United States needs to stay out of Venezuela
and let the Venezuelan people determine their own future.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Isn't that interesting? Every word she said was true, but
that was then. This is now now we see that
the principles are really about her. It's kind of like
the situation where he saw Pete Eggsa saying about Trump.
I think he's going to give people illegal orders, he
said back in twenty sixteen on Fox News. I played

(10:13):
the clip for you once before, and he said it's
their duty not to obey those illegal orders. And he's
specifically talking about Trump himself now that he's working for Trump,
now that he's playing war chief Warpete. Now Warpete is
going to beat his chest talk about lethality, and he

(10:35):
doesn't care about legality anymore. So that's where we are,
and keeping a long standing Department of Defense policy. Of course,
we're not going to release a top secret, full unedited
video of that to the general public. Now. The rest
of stuff was top secrets. As a matter of fact,
all the videos that they put out of the pirate

(10:59):
attack on the on the tanker, oh okay, they bragged
about this. There we go there's drink up. Pirates still
swinging on ropes. The only difference is and not swinging
from their ship to the other ship doing it out
of the helicopters.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Oh for me, we start rebuilder, rebuilt shinza, Drink up
met is your hole? My rotting in dozzle and even
hijacked drink up me? Is your hole? You for me?
Weekend of a jar in playing a mid night drink
up me? Is your hole? We weren't at the city.

(11:37):
We're really a fright Drink up? Is your hole? You
for me?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah? Well, if the song fits, play it. The fact
that this video currently is deemed top secret says reason
should not be decisive since it's Haig Seth who has
the power to declassify it. These vague national security concerns
are being used as an excuse to conceal footage that

(12:08):
might under amine public support for Trump's murderous anti drug
strategy by vividly showing what it looks like in practice,
and also showing that they vividly disregarded the very example
that is in the military manual about what you do
not do under the rules of war. There should be

(12:28):
rules for war, especially for war. You know, when we
talk about things like that, that's you need to try
to contain it as much as possible. If you can't
stop it, you need to try to at least contain it.
That's what the rules of war are about. You don't
want total war and you don't want totalitarian government. And
the most important thing is for the government to follow

(12:49):
the rules, for the government to follow the law, because
if they don't, they become the most dangerous criminals on earth.
Will you release video that strike to the American people?
Can they see it for themselves? This is back on
December third, and Trump was asked that on ABC. He said,
I don't know what they have, but whatever they have,

(13:11):
would certainly release it, no problem. Oh really? Heg Seth
contradicted that commitment. Three days later, he said President Trump
said he would have no problem with a full video
of the strike being released. Said a Fox News reporter,
when can we see that video? When will you release it?
Hegseth implied that she was mistaken and taking the President

(13:31):
at his word. Now, we're reviewing it right now to
make sure sources and methods are not compromised. You know,
the sources and methods of how they take over with
their pirate takeover of a tanker with was it one
to two million barrels of oil? Hegseeth. I mean it's
an ongoing operation and we've got operators, operators out there

(13:56):
doing this right now. It's almost like it' said nine line.
We got operators standing by operators. Give me a break.
So again, he has shown the pictures of the tanker piracy.
He has shown the pictures of all these strikes, including

(14:18):
the first part of this strike. But he doesn't want
you to see the people begging for mercy in the
water that they murdered. Trump himself retreated from his promise
of transparency. Trump denied that he had said what he said.
I didn't say that. You said that. I didn't say that.
This is ABC fake news. What Hegseth wants to do

(14:40):
is okay with me whatever he says. Yeah, the problem
is we got the tape and Trump is lying yet again.
Then you have Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, a Republican from Oklahoma,
an enthusiastic supporter of summarily executing anybody who has suspected
of being a cocaine courier. He told reporters the issue

(15:05):
of the video is quote the sensitivity. Yeah, it's very
sensitive subject right of the assets used and the boat strike.
It is a classification issue. I don't make the classification.
If you don't like the classification, talk to the White
House about it, he said. Well. Adam Smith, a Democrat

(15:26):
from Washington State, the ranking Democrat on the House Armed
Services Committee, was allowed to see the video during the
closed door briefing December the fourth. He says the claim
that releasing it would compromise sources and methods is ridiculous.
He said that if they showed just the portion that
we saw those two people on the boat, it's no

(15:47):
different from any of the dozen plus videos that they
have already released. Again, I repeat that it's no different
from me the other videos, But there is a difference.
You've got people waving for help that are shipwrecked and
they were murdered. That's the key difference. The other ones
show the show that they're lying when they say that

(16:12):
there was a conflict going on. And this is one
of the most dangerous things about it. The idea that
they are now saying that merely trafficking drugs that they
prohibit without any constitutional authority. If they prohibit the drugs
and you're trafficking it, then that is a violent threat. Folks.

(16:32):
That is as much of a lie as a lie
that they used to take away free speech. The speech
is violence. So they don't want to release this video
because they don't want people to see it. If they
release the video, then everything that the Republicans are saying
will clearly be seen to be completely false because it
is a lie. So we have shifting explanations coming out

(16:55):
from the Pentagon, which is always a sure sign that
somebody's lying. I remember Hillary Clinton had been GAZI. So
immediately after the attack, Congress were told that the US
forces needed to clear the wreckage, so there wasn't any
danger to navigation. That's why we blew it up, right,
this little tiny boat that we blew up, we're afraid
it's going to sink the big ships that are out there.

(17:16):
So you know, we're going to clear the wreckage. Right then,
right before we watched the video, he said, the explanation
was that the unarmed survivors quote might have a radio,
They might have been radioing a boat, and they might
have been trying to recover the cocaine. So what that's
still not a fight when you actually watch the video,

(17:38):
you realize that they don't have a radio, that they're
barely hanging on what remains the boat. The claim that
they then became that they were quote trying to right
the boat, even though the conflagration from the first missile
strike probably destroyed everything in that boat. He said. The
latest explanation illustrat's the alarming implications of conflating drug smuggling

(18:03):
with violent aggression. Admiral Frank Bradley, who commanded the operation,
reportedly told lawmakers he ordered the second strike because he
was worried that the two floundering survivors could have salvaged
whatever cocaine might have been remained in those capsized boat parts,
which was all that was left of the first strike.

(18:23):
Trump said, I saw the video. They were trying to
turn the boat back to where it could float, and
we didn't want to see that because the boat was
loaded up with drugs. Right now, I've seen things posted
on social media where they show pictures of you know,
people you know, frozen and zombie out and doing crazy
stuff on the on the streets high presumably I guess

(18:46):
from fentanyl. And they said this is they don't want
you to see this, because that's why we're blowing those
boats up. The drug war. That's why you're seeing people
in this kind of We didn't have that kind of
a drug problem when the drug war began. I know
because I was around. I know because I saw a

(19:08):
lot of drugs being used when I was in not
just in college, but when I was in bands that
played in nightclubs and parties and things like that. The
drug use going on all around me. This is nothing
at all. Why the kind of drugs that we have today?
Why did that happen? Because of the drug war? Because
of that failed policy. It is not going to save

(19:30):
us from that. There's always about the spiritual issue that
is there. And so Tom Cotton said, well, they were
trying to flip the boat so they could stay in
the fight, a fight that did not actually exist, says Reason,
And they're right. So it's neither of the two men,

(19:50):
nor of the nine others who were killed in the
attack were engaged in any combat with US forces. Cotton says,
they looked at one point like they were trying to
flip the boat back over, presumably to rescue its cargo
and continue their mission. You know, I flix could kill
all the US soldiers will be dead by now. Right now,
it doesn't even look like they're threatening anybody, he says,

(20:13):
at least at least as plausible that they were trying
to flip the boat back over, maybe, you know, to
avoid drowning. So what reason, says what do you think
Do you think they didn't want to they were trying
to save the cocaine or were they trying to save
their lives at that point in time, Cotton said, it
doesn't really matter what they were trying to do, since

(20:34):
part of the boat was still floating. He said, that boat,
it's cargo. Those drug traffickers remained valid targets. In no way.
Was just a violation of the law of war. That
is a violation of the law of war, clearly a
violation according to the US, according to international sources, everybody
agrees that's a violation of the laws of war. It

(20:57):
was not violence that was being conducted. And as our
government has gotten increasingly violent and trying to stop this
with the use of force, and you got idiots or
bots or whatever on social media trying to cheerlead this
or on drugs. That has failed for fifty four years,
spectacularly failed. Why are we still continuing down this path?

(21:20):
Why are we escalating the same failed tactics? It truly
is insane. Any American who sees the video that I
saw will see the US military attacking shipwrecked sailors, I said.
Adam Smith said, individuals are deemed shipwrecked when they are

(21:41):
at distress, and see when they were helpless, when their
need of care and assistance, and provided they refrained from
any hostile attack. Again, they didn't have the means, and
they had not done anything to attack in hostility prior
to being hit with the first missile. They certainly didn't
have the means after that, struggling to survive. Cotton's claim

(22:02):
the two survivors remained valid targets raises a question of
whether they were even valid targets in the first place.
The answer depends on whether you accept Trump's preposterous premise
that supplying Americans with cocaine, not with fentanyl even but
with cocaine amounts to an armed attack on the US.

(22:22):
And you know, we've all looked at this and it's like,
I'm not defending cocaine use I'm not minimizing it. But
it is not fentanyl as I said, I've never seen
the situations like the fentanyl addicts and some of these
other drugs that turn people into zombies on the streets.
I've never been around anybody who's using I've been around

(22:44):
people using cocaine. Doesn't do that to you. So this
is something that is you know, we've created these more
virulent strains of drugs. They are the product of prohibition,
just as an alcohol probiion. The cartels, the drug organizations,
they are product of prohibition, just like during alcohol and

(23:06):
the corruption and the stupidity of government continues to escalate,
just like during alcohol probition. It was pretty much during
nullification that stopped alcohol prohibition. People weren't playing along with
that anymore. So the problem is not only of this
particular attack, but with Trump's general policy of treating criminal

(23:28):
suspects as combatants and a nonexistent armed conflict, which he
thinks justifies killing them from a distance without legal authorization
or any semblance of due process. Well, he is kind
of moving from that anyway, because he is shifting it

(23:50):
now to the oil, which really is the issue, that
is the fundamental issue, that's the issue behind this phony
intimidation in the Caribbean, and it is also what is
behind his wanting to do regime change. So we look

(24:11):
at it and we say, this is not about the
drug war. This is not about fentanyl. It's not even
about stopping cocaine. This is about regime change. But the
regime change is about the oil and Trump is making
that pretty clear.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Getting land, oil rights.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Whatever we had, they took it away because we had
a president that maybe.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Wasn't watching, but they're not going to do that.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
We wanted back. They took our oil rights.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
We had a lot of oil there, as you know, they.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
Threw our companies out and we want it back.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, because you know, he's been hired by these companies
to get their get their profits back. We're going to
get award not for the United Fruit Company, but for
Exonomobile over and over again. Yeah, that's why he was
saying he took the tanker right.

Speaker 7 (24:55):
Thank you very much. It's been an interesting day from
the standpoint of news. As you probably know, we've just
seized a tanker on the coast of venezuela large tanker,
very large, largest whatever seased actions.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
It's huge, it's big.

Speaker 7 (25:16):
Other things are happening. So you've seen that later.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
In huge corruption people. Yeah, lots of eyes lost. It's
the best war.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
For the country. We've just launched the Trump gold card.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
It's all about money. It's all about money, the grifter
and chief. It's just amazing. So he's not He's getting
to the heart of the issue. Eventually. Trump being Trump,
he will tell you the truth, no matter how evil
it is. Waiting for the for the pulling back the
curtain about Jeffrey Epstein, of course we've already seen behind

(25:53):
the curtain, but maybe Trump will do that someday. But
it's also interesting to see how the CIA and people
like comm Clancy and you know, State of Chinnicu's working
with him, feeding him narratives and things like that. How
they portrayed Venezuela in the Jack Ryan series that was

(26:15):
several years ago. Here's a speech that's clipped out of that.

Speaker 8 (26:18):
Would you assume is the most major threat on the
world stage?

Speaker 5 (26:21):
Definitely Russia?

Speaker 8 (26:22):
Definitely Russia. Who else China stopped yelling at me?

Speaker 9 (26:26):
But China.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
It's a good answer. Venezuela.

Speaker 8 (26:28):
Anybody everybody's cool with Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
No threat.

Speaker 8 (26:31):
Okay, Which one of these places can claim to have
the largest oil deposit on the planet, more than Saudi
more than Iran.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Wow, okay, what about things like gold?

Speaker 8 (26:40):
More than all the mines in Africa combined. Venezuela is
arguably the single greatest resource of oil and minerals on
the planet.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Let's steal it.

Speaker 8 (26:50):
Why is this country in the midst of one of
the greatest humanitarian crises in modern history on the news.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
As a central planning like Trump wants to do to
our economy.

Speaker 8 (26:59):
But on the world stage still call it a failed state.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
Other examples of a failed.

Speaker 8 (27:03):
State in recent history are Yemen, Iraq, Syria.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
If that's not bad enough.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
News for you, we attack them all.

Speaker 8 (27:12):
Venezuela is also the only one of these because we're
a state thirty minute range from the US of next
gen nuclear missiles.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
You will not hear about.

Speaker 8 (27:20):
Any of this on the news because the biggest players
on the world stage do not want you to Russia
China to never be the most major threat until countries
like Venezuela leave the door open to our very own backyard.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Well there you go, So we got to destroy them
before we have another Cuban missile crisis or something, right,
Except that's not happening. Isn't it amazing how the so
called entertainment industry will feed these narratives to us. It's
not a coincidence, folks. Again, I knew someone who worked
in the Pentagon and his job was to vet script

(28:00):
and if they liked what you were saying, they would
give you military resources to use. You know, you want
some jets that you can film and things like that,
but they don't like it. You don't get anything. You
do it all at your expense, and so they had
some leverage with people over that kind of stuff. But
the CIA actually had a website. I may have been
to it. I've browsed some of their narratives because it's

(28:20):
kind of interesting. I don't know if it's still up
there anymore. I've lost the website address, but I remember
going there and they said, we've got some very interesting
ideas for movie plots, and Hollywood likes that because Hollywood
is if you haven't noticed, they are flat out of ideas.
They have run dry of ideas, and Hollywood so they

(28:43):
soak this stuff up. I mean, you don't even have
to do anything except just make it freely available. Let's
give you a scenario. It's one of the reasons why
these things look so much like propaganda from the CIA,
because it is propaganda from the CIA. But they don't
necessarily have to be in on the gag. It's just
that they need some material that's an interesting idea. So

(29:04):
they give them an interesting plot for free, and they
will they will run with it, right, And so they
offered to help you to create a plot, or you
can just take a look at what they've already got
on the shelf, you know, and you can do your
movie about a pandemic or about Venezuela being somehow being
a threat to us. And think about what he said,

(29:27):
How in the world do you jump from a situation too,
you know, well nuclear weapons there, you know, just like
Cuba whatever. Well, if there's something like that, you address
that when that happens. But the reality was what he
said at the very beginning, the oil, the gold, and
the Pentagon pirates are going are are Let's get some

(29:48):
of that. So the dangerous myth of narco terrorism and
this is from common dreams and said, between the War
on drugs and the War on terror, the US government
has a long history aging bloody, unsuccessful wars against broad
concepts they can't be meaningfully defeated. You know, how do

(30:09):
you how do you defeat all drugs, especially when you're
subsidizing the pharmaceutical companies, right who created Fennol? How do you?
How do you do a war on terror? That's a
war on a tactic. It's not specific. And this is
why of these things need to be debated. This is
what we wind up with when we have presidents who
are able to unilaterally put us into these wars. They're

(30:32):
not even well defined objectives, and so of course we're
not going to win it. They don't even know what
or who they're fighting. So now we have the two
of these things combined together. The war on terror and
the war on drugs are called narco terrorism. How about that?
The great lie, the great myth that is here a

(30:52):
key to the White House's case is the idea of
narco terrorism, a label that could have applied both the
strike victims and the Venezuelan president Maduro. US claims that
Maduro is closely connected to trend de Arugua cartel, despite
the National Intelligence Council analysis it says otherwise. So again,

(31:15):
when you look at alcohol prohibition, you know you could
have called these guys, you know, boozy terrorists or whatever
you want to do. But it was simply about probition.
They get very dangerous, very violent with each other and
with anybody else who happens to be in the way,
and so it is a real threat, but it's a

(31:37):
threat that comes from prohibition. And so they really had
to call these guys gangsters. But then it would invite
the understanding that our own government is a gangster government
as well. So the violence associated black market drug trade.
But there's you have to acknowledge that the term does
more to confuse than to clarify. The idea does not

(32:01):
accurately explain the complex dynamics of the global trade war. Instead,
it radically oversimplifies the problem by portraying military intervention as
a response to drug trafficking, the narco terrorism myth allows
politicians to ignore all the ways in which military intervention
is a cause of drug trafficking. Again, you want to

(32:22):
talk about the real narco terrorists, You want to look
at a confluence of terrorism and drugs. Take a look
at the CIA. They are the typical narco terrorists. They
push drugs. They pushed drugs for illegal wars. That's what
the Holy Iran contra thing was ultimately about in the

(32:43):
crack cocaine stuff. That was about narco terrorism of our
own government and the CIA, the Pentagon, all these people,
they are the narco terrorists. Look in the mirror. This
is all projection. And so again I'll just play Tulsy
Gabbard again. Listen again to what she has to say
about this.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
The United States has a disastrous history of military intervention
and regime change around the world, which has brought suffering
to millions of people, bankrupted our country, dishonored our troops,
and it's undermined our national security. We must end this
policy now before we get into yet another military conflict,

(33:24):
this time in Venezuela. Now, President Trump and his administration
have already instituted heavy sanctions on Venezuela. They've doubled down
on their position that all options are on the table.
I wholeheartedly support the Venezuelan people as they fight for
a free and fair democracy. But the United States should

(33:45):
not be in the business of intervening, of picking who
should lead their country, and we certainly should not be
threatening military action. Venezuela poses no threat to the United States.
Congress has not authorized the United States to go to
war in Venezuela, and there's no justification for our country
to violate the sovereignty.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
Of the Venezuelan people.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Now, the reality is that threats of US military action
and regime change in Venezuela is undermining ongoing efforts to
convince North Korea to give up their nuclear weapons program,
which exists because Kim Jong un sees it as the
only deterrent against US led regime change. Now, President Trump

(34:28):
is promising North Korea, we will not wage regime change
war against them, but at the same time is simultaneously
threatening regime change in Venezuela. North Korea is going to
look at President Trump's actions, not at empty promises.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
United States needs to stay.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
Out of Venezuela and let the Venezuelan people determine their
own future.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Now, if you talked about that in the context of
let's try to talk North Korea down from this precipice
of nuclear weapons and things like that, well, you know
why are they doing it? Well, because they're afraid of
the actions of the United States. Now, what else is
happening right now? Right now that's not going on, But
we're trying to tamp down this war in Ukraine. What
is Russia saying. Russia is looking at this and they're saying,

(35:15):
this is kind of Russia. China are looking at this,
and it's like, I think the US is kind of aggressive.
I think they've enacted more wars than anybody else. They've
used nuclear weapons when no other country has done that,
and so it destabilizes, it reduces the chance for peace
everywhere on the planet. And rightfully, so people need to

(35:39):
not be naive about what the US government is trying
to do and will do. And so when you had
these a lot of people on the left and Trump is,
or rather Drudge is really trumpeting the fact that Tucker
Carlson fell flat on his face. That wasn't even the headline.
You know, usually Drudge will pull the headlines up, but
that wasn't the headline. But they were talking about the

(36:00):
fact the Tucker Carlson and this snooze fest of a
prime time address that Trump did where he said absolutely nothing,
but he made bogus, specious boasts about all the different
wonderful things that he had done, virtually every one of
them a lie. But he a lot of people tuned

(36:20):
in because Tucker Carlson said, well, I think he's going
to declare war on Venezuela. I look at it, and
I kind of think that perhaps this went around because
they are provoking this by declaring a total blockade, and
then the response from Venezuela saying we're going to escort

(36:41):
the tankers with our navy while we still have one
the the I think you look at that, and that
is they've got everything laid out, They've got the dynamite
all there, you know, it's even taken out of the sticks.
It's all loose, and then we've got a match. And

(37:03):
I think that Trump kind of and a lot of
people in the Trump administration were saying, well, I think
this is going to basically come to a head. Shooting
is going to start, and then that'll be the declaration
of a war. He's going to wait for that. That's
the kind of thing that tyrants do. It's the kind
of thing that Lincoln did, right. It's the kind of
thing people who want to drag you into a war.

(37:24):
They manipulate things to get the other guys to either
fire first or look like they're going to fire first.
I think that was really what was happening with all
this stuff, Tucker Carlson's suggestion that Trump would announce war
against Venezuela during his presidential address fell flat on its
face after Trump failed to mention the country even once.
Asked by Andrew Napolitano earlier on Wednesday, whether Trump was

(37:47):
going to start a war with Venezuela, Tucker Carlson said,
here's what I know so far, which is that members
of Congress were briefed yesterday that a war is coming.
Of course, they're doing everything to make that happen, and
now Venezuela is responding by putting military assets around these tankers.
That's going to cause it. It'll be announced in the

(38:08):
Address of the Nation tonight at nine o'clock by the President.
Who knows, by the way, if that will actually happen.
I don't, said Tucker. I never want to overstate what
I know, which is pretty limited in general. But a
member of Congress told me this this morning. Again, they're
going to push for a confrontation rather than a declaration.
They're hoping that they can get war out of a confrontation,

(38:31):
then they'll declare it. And so Aaron Rupar said, well,
I don't think Trump even mentioned Venezuela a single time
during the speech, so Democrats ney that even other Republicans
are trolling at Tucker. Tucker told everyone that Trump is
declaring war in Venezuela. So what happened, said Dana Lesh.
Reuben Galego said, well, at least Potis didn't announced we're

(38:53):
going to war with Venezuela. No clue. What was the
purpose of speech. Well, you're a member of Congress, why
don't you try to stop him? Several theories emerged, with
some social media users suggesting that the White House gave
out false intelligence so the media would broadcast Trump's speech.
This is what you see from people like Jack pi Soviet,
Steve Bannon. They're always out there whenever Trump doesn't fulfill

(39:18):
their expectations, or wherever he does something that they don't agree,
they always explained away, right, And so that's a Jack Pisovia.
Oh yeah, he's playing forty chests down there. You know,
I really appreciate the White House's ability to run an
information operation on so much of social media, putting all
this information out there, said Pa Soviet, who himself is

(39:40):
a creepy spook and spoken like a creepy spook. So
this is he admires that does he Well, good for him.
I don't admire a necessary wars not necessary Kelly. So well,
all that's happening. The Pentagon is escalating the probe of
Mark Kelly, the Senator of the retire our naval Jetfinder,

(40:01):
over the illegal videos order. And again heggs Seth said
the same thing, and he said it about Trump nine
years ago when Trump was running, and Hegseeth was on
Fox News. The problem is, like I said, you look
at a pox on both of their houses, the Democrats,

(40:22):
Mark Kelly and the other one who really organized all this,
the former CIA asset is now a senator. I forget
her name, but both of them were asked point blank
multiple times, so has Trump violated the law? The clear
answer is yes. He has given illegal orders over and
over again, domestically in foreign and yet they said, why

(40:47):
can't think of any right? Why can't they think of
any because they don't care. They want to issue illegal orders.
As the Democrat Party, all the people in there want
to issue those kinds of orders, and they don't want
to take away that power of the presidency, the power
of the government, because they want to use that power.

(41:08):
So they're hypocrites on all this stuff as well. But
I think this is really going to backfire on haig
Seth because he said the same thing himself, and we
do have especially a senator doesn't have the ability to
question this. And the stupid aspect of this was that

(41:29):
hag Seth and Trump never responded by saying, well, we
didn't do any illegal orders. They had to have their
surrogates do that for them. And you know, when pushed
on all of that, Mark Kelly and you know the
other senator backed down, that would have been their defense.
Instead they say, well, no, we can give you illegal orders,

(41:49):
and you better not tell anybody not to disobey illegal
orders or we'll come after you. How stupid is that?
They just, like I said, you know, they laid this
out there, and it was this pile of excrement, and
not only did Trump step in it and excess step
in it, but then they had a temper tantrum like
Donald Duck, and they started jumping up and down on

(42:11):
the pile of excrement as well, splashing it everywhere on themselves.
The Office of the Secretary of War, in conjunction with
the Department of War's Office of the General Council is
escalating the preliminary review of Captain Mark Kelly, and we're
going to war with him too, the Warpeat and all
the rest of them. So again, the Kremlin is weighing

(42:35):
in on the rising US Venezuelan in tensions. The US
of Venezuela carries serious risk and could lead to unforeseen developments,
so a Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov. The warning came after
Trump intensified pressure on Cracus by announcing a full naval blockade. Earlier,

(42:56):
the Russian Foreign Ministry urged the Trump administration to adhere
to a rational and pragmatic approach. So this could be
a fatal mistake that inflames the situation. That's what's intended
to do. China has voiced similar concerns. Beijing's Foreign Ministry
Spokespushing said that China poses all acts of unilateralism and

(43:19):
bullying and supports Venezuela's sovereign right to independently develop mutually
beneficial cooperation with other countries. And that statement is right.
You see that propaganda piece there of Jack Ryan talking
about it, talking about all the resources that are there yeah,
that's the issue. And then he jumps to Russia and China. Well,

(43:45):
that's what this policy of war is doing, it's bringing
them in. Trump has highlighted the US naval build up
during Venezuela, claiming the country is quote completely surrounded by
the largest armada ever assembled in the history of South America.
Maduro qus Washington of attempting to impose a puppet government precisely.

(44:05):
And then when it comes to Taiwan, China says US
must immediately stop the arm sales to Taiwan and demanding
that they recognized the One China principle. Trump began his
administration in January giving three hundred and thirty million dollars
in parts and components to Taiwan, and now they're looking

(44:28):
at more than four billion, more than ten times that amount.
And so they're sending them the High Mars eighty two,
High Mars Rocket Systems four and twenty. Attack them's missiles.
I guess there at ACMs. If I was there, I'd

(44:48):
call them attack them. You know, High Mar's an attack them. Anyway.
China's pushing back against that. And then when it comes
to Ukraine, the EU talk about piracy, right, theft pillage.
The EU will look weak if it doesn't confiscate Russian
funds and give them to me, said Zelenski. R there's

(45:10):
a little pirate. He goes to an EU summit and
he tells him that, of course, Ursula, fond of lying,
says we won't leave the European Council without a solution
for the funding of the Ukraine war for the next
two years. Twenty seven leaders of the European Union gathered
in Brussels Thursday, trying to figure out a way forward
on raising at least ninety billion euros to meet Ukraine's

(45:34):
financial military needs for the next two years. Central to
this is an expected expected decision on confiscating Russian assets,
but major hurdles remain, especially the fact that Belgium is
dead set against it, you know, with the EU is
headquartered there. But yeah, it is a country still in Brussels,

(45:54):
and this is where the bulk of the assets are held.
Zelensky is also in Brussels, and he's laying the guilt,
trip and emotions on thick. He warned on Thursday that
europe will be seen as weak if it doesn't confiscate
the funds and give them to him censorship, theft, or

(46:16):
pillage burning and then bringing in massive immigrant gangs to rape.
Are they pirates? I think they are. And so they're
calling this a reparations loan, but it is money that
is from frozen.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
In the EU.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
They call it frozen rather than stolen. No, it's stolen assets.
Prime Minister of Belgium said, the European states pushing for
the confiscation of Russian assets in Belgium are mostly those
bordering Russia which have experienced Soviet tyranny and they are
still psychologically at war. But we are not at war

(47:00):
with Russia, and we do not wish to be at
war with Russia. And we must negotiate based on reality,
not on fantasy. And he said, in reality, you don't
steal money from a foreign central bank. Stealing from a
central bank is like robbing an embassy. So what he's

(47:21):
saying is you are supporting a policy of total anarchy,
and that's what the EU as well as the US
are doing. We don't want any rules or any guide,
any guardrails or whatever for war. We don't want any
law that we have, and we have a financial system
that is set up where we can steal money from

(47:43):
anybody for any reason that we wish. All we have
to do is label you. All we have to do
is declare an emergency that I can act as Caesar.
Just take a look at what has happened to our governments,
and they really have gone overboard. So it's crunched time
for Europe. They have to decide whether they're going to

(48:03):
be real pirates or if they're just going to play
them on TV. So Putin showed little willingness to compromise.
In his speech yesterday, he said Russia will not back
down from its mission to liberate its historic lands and
that the European swine that was his term, backing Ukraine
would ultimately lose power. And that's the other missing context

(48:27):
of this. As I've said before, the Ukraine referred to
an area an area of Russia for four hundred years,
and I talked about this at the very beginning. You
had the British Defense Minister said, we've beaten the Russians
in Crimea once before, we'll beat them again. Raise your hand, say,
mister Defense minister, Well what were the Russians doing in

(48:50):
Crimea when you fought them before? Well, that was their territory.
Has been since Catherine the Great four hundred years ago.
So again we have to do something about this, and
it has to be done right away. The EU's goal
is still to grant a massive ninety to one hundred
and forty billion euro loan to Ukraine to support the war,

(49:14):
and they're going to do it with stolen assets, not
frozen assets from the Russian Central Bank that are mostly
held in Euroclear, which is in Belgium. That's why Belgium
is pushing back against it, because they realize they've seen
how devastating it has been to the credibility of the
entire Western financial system, the swift system, the US dollar.

(49:37):
They don't want to do that to Euroclear, but it's
just one single voice's out there. We want to finance
the war for much longer in order to end it
as quickly as possible. Now I'm not sure from that
quote whether that was satire or if that was actually
meant seriously. It's crazy. We had to finance the warfare

(50:01):
as long as possible to end it. So they want
to replace the six month renold which are reported right
now every six months. They've got to decide they're going
to keep that money again and any single nation could
veto it, and they were very worried that Hungary or
Slovakia were going to do that. So now they've changed it.
So now this is the new status quo. We keep

(50:24):
the money and it's going to require a large percentage
of people to say that we're going to give it back.
So we're going to keep it unless there's a massive
movement to give it back, as opposed to saying well,
we can only keep it if we all agree unanimously
that we're going to keep it. We got to do

(50:44):
that every six months. Now this is just there forever
until somebody reverses it. That was the big thing that
happened this week. Fred Mertz has thrown his full weight
behind piracy and he told the Parliament yesterday he said
it's about aid for Ukraine, but it's also now sending
a clear signal to Russia that we will use the
assets that are available here to help end this war

(51:05):
as quickly as possible. If your intention was to end
the war as quickly as possible, you would not be
doing this. Instead, what they're going to do is they're
going to end their financial system as quickly as possible,
and you, as an individual can take advantage of this
kind of chaos that they're doing by investing in physical

(51:26):
gold again, David Knight Goold will take it tony Ardaban,
but that is one of the things that you can do.
We're going to have coming up a third hour. We're
going to talk to Jack Lawson about some of the
other things that we can do, because I think we're
going to see some massive disruption of the infrastructure. Of course,
it's going to happen even if there's not war terrorism,
it'll happen with AI. But I think it's likely we're

(51:49):
going to see attacks of war and terrorism. So German
lawmakers approved a record list of arms and military equipment
purchases yesterday worth about fifty billion euros at a time
when they are destroying all industry and manufacturing under the
environmental war that they have declared against people. Let's go

(52:09):
over the comments. Travison will take a break.

Speaker 10 (52:12):
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you Karen, Yes, thank you to Karen.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
She's the one who's doing that. I mean it's she's
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them all set up, so all we had to do
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I think if you're ordered today. But thank you God
you got that. Thank you for ordering that, Andy, Thank you,

(52:44):
appreciate you.

Speaker 10 (52:46):
New Republic Rising eighty three to the shores of Tripoli.
Part of the Marine Corps song is about them fighting
the Barbary Coast pirates. Ironic at this point, they're being
used in piracy themselves.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
That's right, that's right. We have met the pirates someday
as US as a US government.

Speaker 10 (53:03):
Erg KWD sixty eight. What's Trump really done? AI is
being pushed hard. Israel says jump and Trump says how high?
Him Being different is largely an illusion. He's liberal fruit
parties at mar A Lago, same road to twenty thirty.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Yeah, fruit parties. That's good. He was selling LGBT merchandise,
all kinds of rainbow stuff and everything in twenty twenty,
and all the Conservatives wanted to put everything on the
line to go support him, to keep him in the
White House after he had locked us down, said we
are not essential, destroying our supply chain, destroying small businesses,
and telling the big businesses you can stay open if

(53:39):
you're you know, Wall Street, but everybody else you close,
and we're going to take your jobs, give you some
universal basis of income. And then of course, you know,
campaigning with the LGBT stuff, all of that, and people
out there, you know, Oh, Trump's got to stay in.
It's just amazing to me.

Speaker 11 (53:56):
He stands for traditional American.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Value, that's right.

Speaker 10 (53:58):
Yeah, the lgb and you know, young girls and beauty pageants.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Yeah, there's nothing valuable or traditional about Trump.

Speaker 10 (54:08):
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by conservatives while still bringing in the agenda.

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Speaker 10 (54:16):
The truth is that the media and others have excused
so much criminal behavior except for Trump that those are
witnessed it figure, it's just more of the same, that's right. Yeah,
they've inoculated him.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
They have. Yeah, that's the only inoculation that we got
that actually worked. We're gonna take a quick break, folks,
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Flushed Away that's the headline here. What am I talking about? Well,
pro lifers are calling for regulations to prevent widely used
abortion drugs from entering the water system. Now the left
has said, well, it doesn't pose any harm. You know,
we flush the mephistopheles drugs down down at toilet, but

(59:56):
not so much that as the babies that have been
killed by it. And of course that's all part of it.
Is that filtered out. Well, some studies have said that
it is, and yet we have not had this level
of in other words, they didn't test it in terms
of a filter. When you talk about filtering water, I

(01:00:17):
don't sell water filters anymore, definitely recommend one. You never
know what's going to be put in the water. And
so they're flushing the remains of babies that they have
killed with these chemical drugs. And so you have the
chemicals as well as the dead baby parts that they're
flushing down the toilet. And this has now become the
most favored way to do abortion, the pill that I

(01:00:41):
call mephistophiles. Anyway, regulatory push the pro life leaders in
Wisconsin a state bill that would hold abortion drug manufacturers
responsible for the proper disposal of abortion pills and for
the remains of aborted babies. Uncontroversial portion of the bill
would require abortionists who prescribe abortion pills to also give

(01:01:05):
women a catch kit and a medical waste disposal bag.
The bill's sponsors clashed over whether to cut that provision.
The bill's goal is to prevent abortion pills, blood tissue,
human remains that have been exposed to the abortion drugs
from being flushed down the toilet entering the water system.

(01:01:26):
It's one of several similar water waste focused bills that
pro life leaders are promoting across the US. The chemical
abortions have become the most common form of abortion in
the country. Many pro life advocates argue research has not
kept pace with how rapidly the rate of the use

(01:01:47):
of the mephistophiles drug is being used out there. They
say it's the very least federal authorities should determine if
abortion drugs are contaminating the country's water. Again, you know,
this is another one of these they're turning the frogs
gay type of thing. Yeah, by using that, you make
a joke out of the real risks that are out there.

(01:02:10):
And again they want the federal authority should determine if
abortion drugs are contaminating the country's water. You mean you're
asking for the pharmaceutical industry and for the FDA to
do due diligence. What are you crazy? They never do that.
They never test anything. They just throw it out there.
And then if you start having a massive number of
lawsuits from people who have been harmed or killed by

(01:02:33):
this stuff, then maybe they'll take a look at it.
But certainly not until that happens. That's the way it
works in reality. Take the word abortion out of it
and ask whether they are chemically tainted. Blood and placenta tissue,
along with human remains should be flushed down by the
tons into America's waterways, said one person. Abortion groups often

(01:02:54):
tell women who take the pill to either flush the
remains of their children down the toilet or to dispose
of them in the trash. Chemical abortions now count from
more than sixty percent of all abortions, and at least
fourteen percent involved pills obtained from online based abortionists, according
to the pro abortion gut Macker Institute What a Name Anyway.

(01:03:18):
The group says that more than two million babies died
in abortions in twenty twenty four. By these figures, at
least six hundred thousand babies died from chemical abortions, a
much higher number than a decade ago. And so the
Wisconsin bill is called the Clean Water for All Life Act.

(01:03:39):
It should have been enough that the pills killed children.
It should have been enough that the pills killed their
mothers in some cases, but it wasn't. And again, this
is the real issue. To say that you don't need
to go to a doctor and be examined to see
if the baby is far enough along that it would
be harmful to you to abort it. I can look

(01:04:00):
at the testimony of some people who have changed the
position on abortion and on the safety of this stuff.
Look at the Abby Johnson, who was working for Planned
Parenthood and now is one of the big advocates for
life out there. She had a life threatening experience from
the pill. I thought she was going to die, and

(01:04:20):
that's been the testimony of many people. And to do
that without requiring a medical exam, without having to look
at that shows a clear disregard for the life of
the mother. But the fact that this also kills potentially
the environment creates a pollution cycle. They can impact people
who depend on clean water. This should be the thing

(01:04:43):
that is the ultimate pivot, they said, and I agree
with that. Abortion supporters argue there's no evidence about the
abortion drug residue in the water, but pro life groups
argue the manner and the frequency with which the drug
is administered has changed dramatically since these studies were done
thirty years ago. When a pharmaceutical company, when a pharmaceutical

(01:05:04):
begins being used as at a significantly greater scale through
a new disposal pathway, in this case, the public waste
water systems, it is reasonable and responsible to reevaluate the risk.
Pro life groups point to studies from outside the US
that suggest water treatment facilities do not always remove intocrine

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disruptors or metabolites from abortion drugs. As a matter of fact,
you know, if you go back and you look at
I used to do this, because I used to sell
these water filters and there'd be a story coming out
about a particular contaminant that's found in the water supply somewhere,
and I would always go back and I would look
it up, because you go the people who make the filters,

(01:05:48):
and you can look up the different substances and see
if they have tested it against that and almost always
I would find that substance in their literature and they
would say they got nine percent of it or whatever.
So that's something to think about. And you really need
to think about filtering your water. And that's true even
if you're not on the even if you're not on

(01:06:11):
the public water system, because in many cases what happens
is you've got some kind of an underground contamination or
farm contamination through the water that can get into what
you're tapping into with your well. So you always need
to filter your water anymore, especially somewhere between thirty two
more than fifty tons of placenta and human remains are

(01:06:32):
flushed into the water systems each year due to abortions.
And then we look at measles. They are really freaking
out about measles. Now, you know, measle lotbreaks here and
there and everywhere and again. It was a very common
thing at one point in time, and nothing really to
be concerned about. Everybody got measles, but nobody got autism.

(01:06:56):
That's the reality, folks. Whether it's a cause effector it's
just a coincidence. I think there's a cause and effect
to it completely, But they're having a hard time. The
mRNA trump shot was so hated that now it is
affecting the entire vaccine grift that is out there, and

(01:07:21):
it is a sham and a grift. And so Bill
Gates is always looking for ways to inject us, isn't he.
You know when we've seen this from him before, I
remember reporting it was in the fall of twenty nineteen.
He had funded this micro needle and to get people vaccinating.
He says, yeah, a lot of people concerned. They don't
like the needles anything, you better believe it out. But

(01:07:43):
he goes, so this is a way. He paid mighty
to help design this thing. So micro needle that penetrates
the skin and delivers the drug, but it doesn't go
deep enough into the skin to trigger the nerves, so
you don't feel anything. It's just painless. And here's a
report this back in the news. Now it just keeps
pushing on.

Speaker 9 (01:08:02):
This stuff going to be the next mRNA platform, vaccine
platform that they try and roll out at a wide scale.
So first in twenty nineteen, Gates funded a study for
the original development of these quantum dot implants. So it's
a micro needle patch array. So it's got a bunch
of mini needles. It's like a band aid. You put

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it on your wrist, it dissolves and it installs these
quantum dot materials that last for at least five years.
So they developed that in twenty nineteen. Now in twenty
twenty five, Gates funded at another study that shows just
how advanced now this technology has become. It is advancing

(01:08:45):
at a very fast paced now. These these micro needle
patches can install literal quantum dot QR codes QR codes
that can be read with AI with specialized cameras and
decoded to store batch information, lot number, how many doses
you receive. There you go, they put it on the pick.

(01:09:07):
That's what it looks like. It's a literal QR code.
You will be marked. This lasts again four years, perhaps permanently,
and this will be used as a biological vaccine passport
system where you won't use your phone, You won't use
the QR code on your phone to enter the store
and travel. You will use your wrist where this material

(01:09:29):
is embedded in your body. And so this is very
dangerous and this even earned a spot at the twenty
twenty five Global Vaccine Form where they had their own
session on these micro needle patch implants. So this is
planned for man widescale deployment for another pandemic.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Yeah, isn't that amazing? You know, it all converges. You know,
like I said, you got these different things out here,
you got digital ID, you got control of movement and
all these they're all converging. And we've seen the Venn
diagram while all these different interests are coming together, but
we're reaching total convergence now. And this has been something
the whole ID thing has been something very dear to

(01:10:12):
Gates's heart. You know, he's involved with the addhar system
in India and others. He's talked about this. Yeah, it's simple,
I chip all you in society cash lists and put
all the money on the chip and then you'll do
exactly as you're told, or we will turn off the
chip and you won't eat. That's exactly where this is
all headed. But when we look at Gates, he just

(01:10:35):
recently was talking about RFK Junior and about the drug
stuff and hopefully there'll be a pushback against it. I
mean that report there with some children's health defense and
you know, things are moving an excruciatingly slow pace for
me so much so that I'm very tempted to say
it's just a limited hangout. Well, I hope that it isn't.

(01:10:58):
But this is what it's had to say. Position he's
been given in this incoming administration.

Speaker 10 (01:11:04):
Book saying that Tony Fauci and I kill.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Millions of children. You did, billions of dollars. You did,
scenes you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Did, and you know, people can judge for themselves whether
that's that's correct or not.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
It is correct, Yeah, it is correct. And so the
question then again becomes, uh, you know we've seen Tulsa
Gabbert who changed her tune, and you know this is
being slow walked through by RFK Junior, Marty McCay and others.
They know that these vaccines are contaminated, that would have

(01:11:39):
stopped any other product. Why is it still there? Is
because Trump wants it there, because Trump rags about being
the father of the vaccine. You know, take a look,
for example at Bongino, not just Tulsi, but Bongino, and
you had damn Bongino. This was put together by doctor
Jane Ruby put this this compilation up. It's a Bongino

(01:12:02):
before and after the vaccine stuff that's out there.

Speaker 15 (01:12:05):
Stake of my life, biggest mistake of my life, biggest
mistake of my life.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Yeah, yeah, we do.

Speaker 14 (01:12:10):
I think you need those billboards across America missed me
yet with a sign of you with thumbs up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
I mean, this is capitalist guy we have in the
White House.

Speaker 14 (01:12:18):
Now he's trying to take credit for all of your
stuff too, the Vaccino. But I'll get to that in
a few minutes. I actually got a text about that
today from Johnson, who knew. He's like, listen, don't let
Joe Biden when you're in your appearances get away with
taking credit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
And the same guys are giving Joe Biden all the blame.

Speaker 15 (01:12:37):
Is biggest mistake of my life. I just should have waited.
I thought to myself at the time and told gee,
I said, you know, there's no doubt. I feel like
this was created and at this virus in a lab
in Muhan, China. I have little doubt about that. And
I figured, you know, I'd rather take my chances with
something we created than something they created.

Speaker 14 (01:12:57):
Remember when I told you, he's like, listen, don't let
Joe Biden when you're in your appearances get away with
taking credit for president Trump's work on the vaccinat.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
I guess, mistake of my life.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
I guess mistake of my Isn't that amazing? Yeah, I
thought the virus was creating the Wuhan lab, and so
I'll take a chance on the thing that we created
in our labs. It's like, well, that is the monster.
The other stuff was a lie, and he didn't have
the discernment to understand that. It's amazing. I think you
really didn't understand it. But I think what Trump saw

(01:13:28):
in Dan Bongino with somebody who remember when this stuff
came out. He was saying, as Biden mandated it, and
then the people at the radio station where he's working,
they're mandating it for everybody. Says, well, that's it. I'm
not taking it. If they want to kick me off
the air, they can't, but I'm not taking it. And
he stayed on the air and then he got very
quiet about it. So people said, so did you get it,

(01:13:49):
and oh, yeah, I got it. Yeah, I got it.
Then he comes out, biggest mistake of my life. I
shouldn't have taken it. After he saw him finally realized
what happened. But that was at the end of twenty
twenty one. I mean, where was he when the var's
database is filling up and we had more people than
had all the other vaccine adverse effects over a one

(01:14:10):
year period, over a five year period, over ten year period,
and on on till it was more than they had
ever had reported over a thirty five year period. Where
was Dan Bongino with all that It's not just shutting
down the critical stuff. So I think you know, what
what Trump saw was somebody who knew there was it
was very risky and not really in his best interest,

(01:14:33):
but he put his job ahead of everything else. That's
somebody that Trump can work with. Then he saw that
he was willing to inject the kool aid for a job.
Right again, the sugar Waters Alex Jones was saying, yeah,
kool aid, Alex, it's jonestown kool aid is really what

(01:14:54):
you're selling people, the Jones, the Alex jonestown kool aid
what it really was. And so then you see that
Dan Bongino regretted compromising and taking the jab. He didn't
need to stay with that group for radio. I mean,
he was big enough that he could have negotiated his
own situation might have been smaller at first, but it

(01:15:16):
would have gotten larger. And that's something we've seen over
and over again that people have stuck with their principles.
I think they have. Most of the people that I've
talked to that were presented with that, the ones who
stuck their principles, especially the ones who did it not
just because I'm a sovereign individual, but because they believe
that God was sovereign. Those people have been blessed by
God over and over again. I've seen that the people

(01:15:38):
that I've talked to, God will provide and we need
to have faith in that. And so now you know,
he regretted taking the backs to keep his job, and
now he regrets the job that he took at the FBI,
and he's leaving that out. But again I just don't understand.
You know, maybe he's entertaining. We saw that clip of

(01:16:00):
him where he was doing the kung fu moves the
other day. That's why people listen to him. You know,
he's got an entertaining stick or something. But I don't
trust his judgment. I really don't.

Speaker 10 (01:16:11):
Most and then right wing content is largely entertainment. Yeah,
it is basically either Trump is wonderful, He's doing amazing,
we love Trump so much, or basically just reality TV
for people that want to pretend they care about politics.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
That's right, that's right. Well, Bill Gates, we have him id'd,
we know what his background is. There's been some new
Epstein stuff that has come out and pretty much everybody's
face is blacked out. That's not a good sign. When
you're in a picture where everybody else's face is blacked out,

(01:16:49):
something is up with this. You've either been killed or
there's been a crime committed of some sort of thing
when everybody's face but you can still see for the
most part, they're very young people. That are young girls
that are with him. More photographs were released by the
houseover Sight Committee from the Jeffrey Epstein estate. Five photographs

(01:17:13):
released without additional context by the members of the panel
include a Ukrainian passport with a female notation, philosopher Noam
Chomsky on a plane with Epstein, and Bill Gates posing
for a photo with a woman whose face was redacted
by the Democrats on the panel. The images include a

(01:17:34):
screenshot of a snippet of text conversations in which a
person is discussing sending girls. So yeah, we know everything
we need to know about these guys. I think we've
id'd them. Just be on the lookout for these people
that are doing these types of things. So we've got

(01:17:55):
a lot of comments, Travis, We've got a couple of
tips there. You want to cover this here?

Speaker 10 (01:18:00):
Yes, indeed, Gym seven, thank you so much. He's left
many tips. Sentimental hogwash and Merry Christmas you old building
and loan.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Of course those are both quote sentimental hogwatch. It's not
his comment about our program. He was quoting mister Potter
in the movie.

Speaker 10 (01:18:20):
But yes, I was saving money for a divorce if
I ever get a husband. I want to spend the
holidays with my family in Elmira. And finally that's it.
Out you two pixies go through the door, out or
out the window.

Speaker 11 (01:18:35):
Merry Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Well, thank you very much. I appreciate it so much.
Seven yeah, and Merry Christmas to you too.

Speaker 10 (01:18:41):
Yes, Mary, all of you, and to all a good now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Reach every one of us. Merry Christmas night.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
With a K.

Speaker 10 (01:18:47):
Doug the double seven. How many pages are in the journal.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
I don't know, you know, I never never looked. I
don't know if they're numbered, they're not numbered.

Speaker 11 (01:18:57):
It's a mystery mystery number.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
It would probably take me the rest a program to
count them. There's a good number of them in here.
It does have a bookmark in it though too. I've
not mentioned that.

Speaker 10 (01:19:05):
Yes, it comes with its own tassel bookmark that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Yeah, you know it's native mm hmm. That's right there.
It is right here hanging down the bookmark as you say.

Speaker 10 (01:19:15):
So in case you want to use the bookmark on
another book, you've got two bookmarks.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 10 (01:19:21):
Birdhouse Blues says that Ave Knight Show should stream a
watch party for the new movie release Milania January.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Thirtieth, that I've seen the trailer for that. I should
should play that here, but.

Speaker 11 (01:19:33):
We don't want to torture you get.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Yeah, it is tortures and it is I mean, the
arrogance of the Trump family, the hubris, as well as
the conceit and the narcissism is just off the charts.
We do have Milania reading for us, Sarah greenmakers as

(01:19:56):
the place where he'd like that, because Santa like screen.

Speaker 16 (01:20:07):
He might like read better.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Should that girl is really interested, isn't she?

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
On Christmas Eve scenes?

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
They're good for his eyesight? There you go? What what
made them think that that would be the people were
interested in saying that. And again, when you look at
this movie Millennia, that's just a big payoff from Jeff
Bezos and Amazon. You know he's mying influence with him.
That's all. It is, massaging their ego.

Speaker 11 (01:20:38):
We have Scott Helmer.

Speaker 10 (01:20:39):
Thank you very much, Scott, thank you. Good to see
Rob do and if it Wars del Big Tree Children
self defensive any more. Truth outlets quote unquote all declined
to cover my vaccine protest song shouting it out loud?

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
I didn't see that. I didn't, but yeah, it does.
It is hard to get things through through Rob. Yeah,
it really is. So sorry about that. Yeah, we needed
some protest songs. I wish I had seen that. There,
we've covered your stuff and again, Scott Helmer, you can
find him on Spotify and other places. You can also

(01:21:14):
find him on YouTube and he is at his website
as well. But thank you for doing that, Scott. You know, sometimes,
you know, it's hard for us to get traction with things.
I know how you feel. I had a lot of
my stuff was shut down as well, even within info Wars.
But thank you for doing that right. Yes, you got
some more comments.

Speaker 10 (01:21:33):
Sir Jason Barker, And of course Jason Barker is a
member of Knights of the Storm and you can go
to the Nights of Thestorm dot com to see this
schedule and see their show schedule, our show schedule, many
other shows. So go check out the Knights of the
Storm dot com. He says, we're gonna have Scott Helmer
on tomorrow. It should be a really good interview. Scott
is a very inspiring story when it comes to standing

(01:21:55):
up for liberty and paying the price.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Yes, yes, so be.

Speaker 11 (01:21:59):
Sure to check out their show.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Yeah, we should get you on sometimes, Scott, you know,
reach out to us or remind us, because with all
the stuff that's happening, maybe at the beginning of the
year we'll get you onto.

Speaker 10 (01:22:10):
There is never time in the day to do everything
we need to do. Pezzonovante, seventeen seventy six. The gut
Mocker Institute is a research and policy and geo the
aims to improve sexual health and expand reproductive rights worldwide.
The organization was started in nineteen sixty eight as part
of Planned Parenthood. It became independent from Planned Parenthood in

(01:22:31):
two thousand and seven the Wikipedia.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Yeah, I think the name is somewhat ironic, don't you
gut mocker.

Speaker 11 (01:22:38):
You know, there's a lot of mockery.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 10 (01:22:42):
Also, I love how reproductive rights is always just code
for murdered babies. That's what it means. When they're talking
about reproductive rights, what they're talking about is dismembering children.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, they're not talking about parenthood at all.
They're planning not to be parents. They're planning not.

Speaker 10 (01:23:01):
To Infanticide doesn't roll off the tongue as well, might
not get as many customers. S A Miller won two
three says Bongino got a cancer lump on his neck
after he took the shot.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
I'm sorry to see that, you know, and you talk
about that. I have had a lot of differences with
Scott Adams, and I felt that he was very, very
wrong in the beginning. He said it's it's harder, getting harder,
harder to tell these freedom lovers from sociopaths. And I said,
it's getting harder and harder to tell pragmatists from authoritarians.

(01:23:34):
And so we've had a difference of opinion about this
stuff along and you know. He he said, well, okay,
you guys are right, you got it right, you got lucky.
You just had an anti government bias, and so he
got lucky. And it's like, that's not it at all.
It's discernment. And yet to see him in the situation.
He just did a live broadcast in bed and he

(01:23:57):
is extremely sick with prostake answer and it's very disturbing
to see it. And I felt very sorry for him.
Even though I totally disagree with him, and I would
not suggest that anybody take any of a vice about anything,
I still feel very sorry for him. And I feel
sorry for him because he seems to have missed the
whole point of life. He doesn't seem to have a

(01:24:21):
relationship with Christ and so I feel very sorry for
him about that. So I pray for him.

Speaker 11 (01:24:27):
Yeah, when he comes to you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Yeah, he's still still alive. So we do pray that
he would come to that realization. We're like a quick
break an.

Speaker 10 (01:24:37):
He sent another message he says, thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:24:40):
David.

Speaker 10 (01:24:40):
Rob was a guest in my old radio show Slash Podcast,
and he declined to be personally very disagree Indeed, Wow,
that is very surprising. That seems like the type of
thing do would have been interested in?

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, So, yeah, I would have thought that
he would have. But again, the problem was that Info
Wars they were pushing the panic button and that was
making them a lot of money. And you know, you
don't want to go against Trump. If Trump is for
the vaccine. We got to find some way to cover

(01:25:12):
for Trump and cover for him his support of the vaccine.
I know, we'll tell everybody that it's sugar water and
they should inject the gool aid into their veins. That's
really the way the thing went. Yeah, and the more
and more comment here from Doug to W seven.

Speaker 10 (01:25:28):
Yeah, he says, I watched the procedure he animated abortion
video on YouTube that David has mentioned, and it was heartbreaking.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Yeah, it was. It was. And you know, when you
look at the outrage that these people have, if you
show pictures of aborted babies, they recoil like vampires and
the movies. You know, when you show them a crucifix
or something. I mean it, it is kryptonite to these people.
And they because they know what they're doing, and they

(01:25:56):
don't want you to know. That's the key thing. They
don't want you to know. We're going to pick a
quick break, focus and we'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
You're listening to the David Night Show. You're listening to

(01:28:47):
the David Night Show.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Well, this time of year, you've got a lot of
mega churches are turning to big stunts and entertainment. You know,
there's a big church in Dallas. It does this kind
of stuff all the time. I look at it, It's
like you, is this a circus or are we worshiping God?
This is kind of the absurd conclusion of seecret friendly churches,

(01:29:13):
I think. And so this is one that is in Houston.
A woman is injured after she gets kicked by camel
during the church's Nativity show. They actually had live animals,
and they walked the live animals up and down the
aisle so that you can have a near experience with them,
and it got nearer than they expected with one person

(01:29:33):
is this walking past. It kicked and she was seriously
injured and taken to the hospital. Don't know any details
about that.

Speaker 10 (01:29:42):
The real question is how have these people not learned
over the years. Is one of the only thing I
know about camels. They go without water and they've got
a bad temperament. This is like a universally known fact.
The only thing I know about.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Camels, Well, you don't want to get their nose under
the tent either, I hear. You know.

Speaker 10 (01:30:02):
That's don't load them too much with straw, you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
Know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess if they get their
nose out of the tent, they can spit pretty good,
I guess. But they said that this happens pretty frequently
with churches that think it'd be a great idea to
have a live Nativity scene. They bring camels in, and
the camels sometimes get loose and people don't know to
do with them. Yeah, that's right. So anyway, I.

Speaker 10 (01:30:28):
Think part of it is Americans are so removed from animals.
As a general rule, the only animals in average American
experience is a dog.

Speaker 11 (01:30:36):
Or a cat.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
They forget how big.

Speaker 10 (01:30:40):
These animals are and how easily they can injure someone, and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
They forget how different these other animals are than dogs
and cats. You know. One of the reasons that dogs
and cats are around us because they're easily domesticated, but
not so much. You know, most people don't have a
camel living with them in their tent, certainly not in
our society, so that's always a thing. But again, you know,
we look at this time of year, we have a
couple of interesting stories, and you know, I'll start with

(01:31:09):
this one. This is the Scopes Trial. We now have
the one hundredth anniversary of that here in Tennessee. It
was in Dayton, Tennessee, and it was actually during the summer,
not right now, but it's one hundred years ago. So
I saw this article on Real Clear Science and I thought, oh,
that's interesting because I've always been interested in the Scopes Trial,
and culturally it's been a big thing. Of course, we

(01:31:32):
had the movie and was it a book Inherit the Wind,
I don't know, but there's a movie with Spencer Tracy
and others, you know, And this is a couple of
unbelievably big people in the nineteen twenties, William Jennings Bryant
as well as the lawyer Clarence Darrow, who was also
very famous at that point in time. And then it

(01:31:54):
was reported by hl Mincoln, who was also a very
famous commentator at the time, and he helped to make
it even bigger than it would have been normally. And
I think it's kind of interesting when you look at it.
Of course, there was a law that was passed in Tennessee.
It was put together by a pastor. His name was Butler,

(01:32:16):
so they called it. They named it after him. They
called it the Butler Act. This is before they did acronyms.
No kind of an acronym you put there. But it
prohibited any state school from teaching any theory about the
origin of man that contradicted the account in Genesis. And
so they set up this test case.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
This is a.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Set up test case by the ACLU, and again Clarence
Darrow on the ACLU, and they put this guy in.
They got him there as a substitute teacher to teach
evolution so they could test this law, and so subsequently
called it the Monkey Trial. But his conviction was later

(01:33:02):
overturned by the Tennessee Supreme Court on a technicality, and
so it didn't set any interesting legal precedents. But I
think it has some very important lessons for us in
terms of free speech, in terms of the truth and
all the rest of this. It was an epic confrontation.
Many people say about science versus religion. I don't see

(01:33:26):
them as I think that's one of the legacies of
this is that false dichotomy. I don't see a contradiction
between science and genesis. I see science confirming genesis. That's
what I see as an engineer, and so I think
that is I think the worst aspect of this trial

(01:33:50):
was to try to create these two, this false dichotomy.
I think science, rightly understood enforces religion. If you look
at many of the great scientists, look at Isaac Newton,
Maxwell and who gave us the laws of Maxwell's equations

(01:34:11):
to help describe the interaction between electricity and magnetism and
other things like that. When we look at these guys,
they were very strong Christians. Pascal, for example, even had
a Pascal's bargain, and so there's not a contradiction with that.
As a matter of fact, Francis Bacon, who came up

(01:34:32):
with scientific method, he was a strong Christian as well.
And so the scripts trial put up was a put
up job. Says this guy insigated by the American Civil
Liberties Union. But that's okay if you want to test
a law. I don't have any issue with that at all.
But this set this up because of this point in time. WILLIAMS. Jennings.
William Jennings Bryant was very very famous at run for

(01:34:53):
president a couple of times. He was getting kind of
old at this point. And the thing is is that
he and the state of Tennessee tackled this issue from
a political standpoint, and they make this point in the article.
They said he was looking at this and believed that
once you get God out of society, things are going

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to start going down here very rapidly. And he's not
the only one. I mean, you got people like Richard
Dawkins looking at the UK now and he says, well,
you know, I don't believe the Bible. I don't believe
there's a God, but I like the Christmas carols and
the building, and I like the society that it has
given us right, the rule of law, the presumption of innocence,
free speech, and things like that, and I don't want

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to see that taken away with an authoritarian religion like Islam.
And so the problem is is that you can't have
the fruit of that without having the root, and the
root is Christ and they don't want Christ. I've said
that before about Richard Dawkins, but that was the key
thing about this. They had. The other thing that I

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thought was interesting is because we look through all this
COVID stuff, what do we see over and over again?
We see experts. Well, the experts say this, and the
experts are science. And that was in spades. That's why
Real clear Science really picked up this article because if
you look at the transcripts of the trial, he says,
to put it politely, the experts were underwhelming. They rested

(01:36:24):
on the presumption that something had to be true because
I an expert say it, or other experts say it.
The other statements were vague, They tended to wander off
of topic. Two of the experts trotted out the dubious
Piltdown Man fossil as proof of the missing link between
apes and humans. At best, this was evidence of expert

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laziness and wishful thinking. Since its discovery in nineteen twelve,
doubts had swirled around the Piltdown fossils authenticity, and later
it was definitively revealed by Charles Oakley and Joseph Weiner
as a hoax, and they called it an absurdity. But

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it's not the only one. I mean, that's Piltdown Man,
which was the first one to be exposed. There's also
Java Man. There's also one that is still put out there, Lucy.
You've heard people talking about Lucy, that something is really
big about Jane Goodall. I think the best summary of
Lucy was that fossil story hasn't got a leg to
stand on. There were missing bones and other things that

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some of them they pulled together that were scattered many
many dozens of miles apart from each other. They pull
this together and say, well, that's an early person. That's
kind of a mixture of different things. And it's like,
well it looks pretty doubtful, but that it was always
that way from the very beginning. If you look at
Ernst Heckel, who was known as Darwin's Bulldog. He was

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a German scientist and he was the one who created
the series of drawings. And when I was a child,
you would always hear Carl Sagan go on Johnny Carson
talking about billions and billions of years. Always, you know,
everything was evolution, evolution, and this whole thing was ontology

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recapitulates phologeny or the other way around. I can never
remember which way it was. But their point was that
if you look at Ernst Teckle's drawings, you know he
set these things up to show that as the fetus
is developing, it goes to the stages of you know,
first it's like a fish, and then it becomes you know,
looks like this animal, then it looks like that animals.

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You can see that it's recapitulating. The evolutionary is evolving
through all these different things even as as it develops.
The problem is that that was all a lie. Ernst
Tuckle had not done these drawings based on scientific evenance,
but like most of these so called experts, he created

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stuff to fit what he already wanted to be there.
And so once people started looking at the once we
got the technology that allowed us to actually see the babies,
you know, ultrasound and other things like that, but actually,
you know, before that they had the ability if you
had a miscarriage or something like that, or even if
it was an abortion, they could see that his drawings

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did not were not true. And that was known well
before and recanted by a lot of scientists well before
Carl Sagan went on and repeatedly pushed that lie that
we all go through the evolutionary stages in our development
not true at all. And so this is the typically

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the way things go you know, you ought to always
be careful about expert testimony, and you should always be
able to see the data and you know, show me
the information. This is one of the things I hope
that we learned with the twenty twenty fiasco. By nineteen
twenty five, the science of human origins painted a very

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different sketch of human origins than the ones that we
presently paint. It's constantly changing. And you know, the interesting
thing is that even though the science is constantly changing,
and their evolution story or any story that they can
come up with that keeps God out of it, any
origin story that is constantly changed, you know what has
not changed. Genesis is not changed, not for thousands and

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thousands of years. It's not changed. It doesn't need to
change because it's right. And we can see this, just
like with the Ernst Tuckle drawings. We can see as
we learn more and as we observe more, we can
see the hand of God and all of this stuff.
Just look at DNA for example, look at microbiology and

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the explosion and all of that. It's no coincidence that
the big push supporting intelligent design came from a microbiologist
William I think anyway, his name was Behie was his
last name, and the book was called Darwin's Black Box.
Why did he call it that? Darwin had a couple
of problems with his theory of molecules to man evolution. Again,

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you see changes in animals over a period of time.
Sometimes that is done by breeding. Sometimes that's just done
by the process of natural selection. And that is the
genetic variation in different animals and natural things that happened
that cause them to change slightly. But they don't change

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from a fish to a bird. They don't change have
any real meaningful change. They still are there within that
kind of animal. And so Darwin was concerned about the
missing links and the fossils, and that's why all that
stuff about the builtdown man and job of man and
Lucy and everything. So it's been contentious and they've never
found any missing links. They'd never found any transitional fossils,

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and so you've had some of the scientists they said, well,
there's no missing links, and we've been looking at this
for one hundred and fifty years or something. So let's
say we'll call it punctuated evolution. So everything goes along
solid state and all of a sudden, you have a
hopeful monster that is born. You have some kind of
weird mutation, and then somehow that weird mutation is able

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to reproduce. Well, that's not real either. That's no more
real than Lamarckian inheritance, which was well, I think the
elephants or the the drafts have a long neck because
they liked the fruit that was up high. So they
gradually a period of time, they just evolved that neck
because that's what they wanted, was a high fruit. Well
you can see that.

Speaker 10 (01:42:40):
You know, people with apple orchards, their children just get
progressively taller and taller as the generations go, and soon
they're able to just pick the apples straight off the trees.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
Yeah, that's not true. And that was easily and quickly depunked.
One person decided they would go through a couple of
generations and cut the tails off of the rats, and
I guess what, that didn't make the rats tails shorter
and subsequent generations either. So there's various things like that
that have been coming and going. So there was a
missing link that was missing and still missing. And then

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there was Darwin's black Box, which she said, I think
one of the biggest problems with my theory is the
human eye, and not just the human eye, but all
eyes that are out there. And he said, it is
so incredibly complex. How could that have happened without a designer?
How could that happen by random chance, all these different
parts working. And so it was his primitive understanding. Even

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in his primitive understanding, he could see that was an issue.
And so that's why bahe called it Darwin's black box.
What he did was he looked at microbology and he said, yeah,
you got black boxes inside of black boxes, inside of
black boxes as you go further further down, and it
still studys very complex, and it is still even as
you get to smaller, smaller organisms, they still are able

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to function His organisms. They're able to observe and learn
and sense and reproduce and all these other things that
are there, and truly is amazing, and it is an
example that as you get smaller and smaller, things are
really getting more and more complex to do things like that.
And so there's no missing links. There's lots of black
boxes and many more of them. And as I said before,

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you know, one of the things that really dawned on me.
One time we took the kids to SeaWorld and we're
watching the penguins, and so you can stand at a
level that is below the water level for the penguins,
and so they have I'm sure you've seen it. You've
got they've got glass there and you can look up
at the very top of the window. You can see
above the water level and you can see the penguins

(01:44:43):
walking around up there, and then looking down you can
see underwater. And so we're watching the penguins and they
jump into the water and they're going by us and
they're flying, and I thought it's interesting. I never thought
about that they're actually flying underwater. Well, what do we
know about aerodynamics? We know that because and it's kind

(01:45:04):
of common knowledge today. I mean, you get into a
car and stick your hand out the window, and it's
really pushing on your hand. You can feel the force
of it. And that's the basic principle for airplanes, right
you get them moving quickly enough. And what that does
is that changes the air, which is a fluid. It
essentially compresses it so that it is something that can

(01:45:25):
actually lift up a giant plane. And the only thing
that's missing then is the shape of the airfoil the
wing to give it that lift. But it's using the
fact that air is a fluid. And I thought, now,
how would Moses know that when he wrote down Genesis
if he made that up? Because how does he break
down the creation of the animals. He's got one day,

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You've got all the animals that swim in the sea
and fly in the sky, so they're all done at
that time, and it specifically mentions how they move. Why
would he do that if he's just making it up.
But if it's God who is designing it, he would
know that. And so the story of Moses and the penguins,

(01:46:13):
I guess they could color that right. And what does
Moses have to do penguins? You never saw any penguins either,
by the way, But somehow he knew about all of that.
And so then you know, that's one day, and then
the next day it's all the animals that move and
crawl and walk and creep on land. And so it's
broken down these two days. He classifies the animals by

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how they move. And why would Moses do that? I
understand why the maker would do that, but I don't
understand why Moses would do that. So yeah, I don't
see a conflicts. As a matter of fact, the more
I look at science, the more I see God's hand
in it. So Brian's big complaint about Darwinism was that

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it was nihilistic, and he said, if we take the
same thing that niche said, Niche was an atheist and
in his mind he no longer believed in God, and
he said God is dead. We have killed him and
it's going to be really bad for our society. That's,
you know, William Jennings. Bryan saw that he understands that

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that kind of nihilism is very destructive to society. So
that was really what he was pushing back, and that
was the intention of many of these people in terms
of putting these laws through. But I think the thing
that we need to understand as Christians, or as conservatives,
or as liberals, or what we all need to whatever

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our belief is, about something, you should be convinced enough
in your mind that you don't have to censor other people.
No others. We don't have to to stop people from
talking about evolution. We never did that. I mean I
talked to the boys quite a bit about evolution. I

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talked them about evolution along with creation, and we don't
have to hide from things like that. We should be
convinced in our own minds, and we should be open
to debate and to discussion. And so again, William Jennings
Bryan failed to really defend genesis in the trial. He

(01:48:20):
was too focused on politics. That's a lesson for us.
It's also a lesson for us that we don't need
to run and hide for all of this, from all
this stuff. And as he's pointing out in this article
from Real Clear Science, he says, nihilistic ideology that would
bear bitter fruit wherever it took root. The social and
economic upheavals in the decade that followed the Great War

(01:48:43):
of World War One seemed to provide ample evidence for
Brian's argument. The people of the South were paying close
attention to the events and we're not liking what they saw.
Brian's critique of Darwinism was the seed crystal that precipitated
these anxieties into political action and the passing of the
Butler Act. And so a lot of people for that,

(01:49:08):
some people that just because they said, well, yeah we
want justis talk to our kids. And you know this
other thing is a lie. I don't believe it. We
don't want to teach that to them. I think it's
good to teach both sides of it. I think you
want to teach the controversy. It's one of the things
they do at the Creation Museum that has the Answers
and Genesis has. They show evidence. They say, here's the fossil,

(01:49:29):
here's this, Here's how the evolutionist and the atheist interprets this.
Here's how we interpret it and why. And that's the
way I tried to teach. So we don't censor. We
should invite debate and free speech. And that's what really
bothers me is I see people all the way across

(01:49:50):
the political spectrum. I see Christians out there who are
trying to shut down things. No, we need to be
convinced of it and commisced enough that we believe that
we can stand up against this. This is the problem
with Fauci and all these other people. I am science.
Do what I said because I'm the expert. No, we
want to see the data. We want to see the details.

(01:50:11):
And for us as Christians, the data and the detail
is the Bible. And we talked about origins. It's in
genesis and we don't need to worry about that. It's
you know, I've mentioned this many times before actually discovered
looking this up, I thought, well, let me make sure
to see who it was it really gave this quote.
And it wasn't Augustine, but it was Charles hadden Spurgeon

(01:50:32):
who said truth doesn't need to be defended. Like a lion,
you need to let it loose and it'll defend itself.
I think we need to be convinced of that, whether
it's whether we're talking about science or whether we're talking
about religion. Yessence is truth, and I don't see a
dichotomy of opposing things. You know, it's if you've got

(01:50:54):
real science and if you've got spiritual truth, they don't conflict.
They don't conflict with each other. They reinforce each other.
And so churches need to get the camels out of
the buildings. One thing, the basics, what's that.

Speaker 11 (01:51:11):
Well, it's a bit of a niche topic.

Speaker 10 (01:51:14):
But in Pokemon, you know, the things evolved and they
still stay in the same family. Like whatever this Pokemon is,
it goes to the next stage every single time, whereas
in the theory of evolution, theoretically a cat could eventually
just become a dog. Someone at the game company looked
at that and said, na, things have to be consistent.

Speaker 11 (01:51:36):
It doesn't make enough sense for this children's game. That's stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
Yeah, the fool has said in his heart there is
no God. I think the fool kind of look at
these things. You know, as we said many times, that
building must have been a tornado in a junkyard, or
you know, I look at a car and I'm not
wondering who made that. I just think it happened.

Speaker 3 (01:51:54):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
Well, our bodies and the bodies or everything around us
are far more complicated than that. Before we stop though
for a break least struggle. You may know him from
a book that was turned into a movie, The Case
for Christ. He's done many of these books, the Case
for this, and the Case for that. In terms of Christianity.
Is a Christian apologist. And I don't mean that he's

(01:52:17):
ashamed of Christ. I mean he's giving people reasons to believe.
And so he had a book that he put out
a few years ago, Case for Miracles, and I remember
reading that. But he's now turned that into a movie
and it's in theaters December fifteenth through eighteenth, So today's
the last day. I just want to let you know
about it. Probably a good movie to see. It was

(01:52:38):
a great book, and I really liked it. I thought
it was very balanced and very truthful, and we'll documented.
And so I'm late in terms of telling you about
this because I kept thinking we might be able to
get him on and interview him. Hopefully we will someday
about some of his books, but he was booked up

(01:52:59):
and take some time off, and so we couldn't get
him on. So I want to tell you about this,
but I also wanted to tell you of an example
that he had. He said, a lot of people who
were spiritually curious become more curious around Christmas because all
this activity the culture is focused on Christmas, and so
they begin to wonder, so what is this really about?
You know, what does it really mean? Charlie Brown? You

(01:53:19):
know that type of thing. He says. I think people
are more spiritually open this time of year, so I
think it's the perfect time to do this. Film looks
at the credibility of whether or not God is still
in the miracle business today, and I think he is.
You know, it was like I said, struggles book The
Case for Miracles is an excellent book. There's also we

(01:53:40):
take a look at the diary of George Mueller, which
I've talked about many many times. That is a wonderful diary.
And if you keep a diary with something like that
David Night Journal or something or anything else, keep a diary, uh,
and I think you'll see miracles providence. And again, if
you think about it, you know, God structures things in

(01:54:01):
your life that in and of itself is a miracle.
But he made the point in the book that if
you look at people who believe that miracles have happened,
it is highly skewed towards a medical profession who've seen
a lot of these different things. And so he said,
you know, when he talks about miracles in his book,
he said, these are all things we have taken cases

(01:54:25):
that are documented medically. You have a lot of eyewitnesses
to this. You have people who don't have any motivation
excuse me, any motivation to de see they're not doing
it for a particular purpose. And then there is also
no natural explanation for this. And I remember when I
read the book, he referenced a study that was done

(01:54:46):
in a guy who wrote a series of articles. And
the guy, you know, it was not from a Pentecostal
or you know, some kind of a background like that
at all, and he looked at it from a purely
data scientist fix standpoint, and he compiled two volumes of
hardback books. And I thought it was so interesting when

(01:55:06):
he interviewed him. I went out and got those books,
and I've got those books, and they it's just you know,
like a like a bibliography is the way the thing
is set up. Tremendous number of miracles that are all
pretty recent that they went through. And so he said
his favorite story was the story of a woman named Barbara.

(01:55:30):
And she had multiple scrosses, even as a teenager, and
she was much older at this point. She had deteriorated
very very badly. We got medical records that dicumitted her
case up to the point where several years later she
is in hospice. He says, she's on her deathbed. She's
curled up like a pretzel. She's rigid, one long collapsed,

(01:55:54):
the other lung is at fifty percent. She's intubated. She's
got a tube to keep her going in her throat.
She was virtually blind, she lost control of her bowels
in your nation, and her legs had atrophied because she
had not been able to walk for seven years. At
that point, she's dying, he said. And so somebody there said, hey,

(01:56:15):
why don't we call the Christian radio station here in
Chicago asked people to pray for her. They had four
hundred and fifty people that sent letters. They've been praying for.

Speaker 10 (01:56:29):
Her, and personally, I believe we've seen that sort of
thing in our life. Yes, what happened this year, just
all of you praying, truly was an amazing blessing and
we cannot thank.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
You all enough. That's true.

Speaker 10 (01:56:45):
It's just it was wonderful and amazing to see. And
I truly believe that the prayers.

Speaker 11 (01:56:52):
Are what helped.

Speaker 10 (01:56:54):
Yeah, and why you're still here with us?

Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
Yeah, yeah, I couldn't talk amazing anyway.

Speaker 10 (01:57:03):
And now here we are, so I personally believe he's
still in the business of miracles.

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
Yeah, so I should keep a diary anyway. So she's
got her friends that are reading these letters to her,
and again she's rolled up like a pretzel. She can't walk,
she can't see none of this stuff, and so she

(01:57:34):
hears over in the corner room, where nobody was at
that point in time, she hears a voice that says,
my child, get up and walk. At that point, she
pulled the tube out of her throat and she got
out of bed. Her feet and legs, which hadn't operated
for years, had been seven years since she had walked,

(01:57:55):
suddenly carried her, and they said, and then she got
her eyesight back, and she had people in the room
with her. The church was very shocked to see her
walk in, he said.

Speaker 10 (01:58:13):
Just there was a church service, the pastor's up front.

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
Yep, that's right, he said, anybody got any announcements, and
you walked in, And so they couldn't believe it. And
so said.

Speaker 10 (01:58:28):
The whole place erupted with people singing, amazing Grace that
once was blind and now I see, and that's the
perfect song for this.

Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58:40):
Yeah. Her doctor and that had been treating her. One
of them said, I saw her walking down the corner
to my office, and at first I thought she's died.
That's going to be a ghoster, but it wasn't. So
they looked at it as medically impossible. He said, this

(01:59:01):
is just one of the stories in the.

Speaker 10 (01:59:03):
Film and we know that what science considers impossible, or
what medicine considers impossible is nothing that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
That's right. So you know, if you've been you know,
whatever your situation is, that's why I say you pray
for Scott Adams. He said in a very difficult situation.

Speaker 10 (01:59:29):
Yes, it's easy to look at someone like Scott and say, well,
he made his bed, this was his choice, he brought
it upon himself.

Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
No, I think, you know, I look at that and
it's all of these things that these these medical poisonings
and things like that that happened. You know, there was
deception involved in that. You know, people were lied to,
they were coerced that they trusted experts, and so many
other things like that. So it's never the person's fault.
It's the fault of the people who were professionals who

(02:00:03):
didn't do their due diligence or maybe they knew and
they deceived people. That's the real issue. So I don't
ever go there. I don't even do that with abortion.
I mean, the person may know, but then again they not,
they may have been deceived. There's a lot of that
going around as well. So let's cover the comments before

(02:00:24):
we take a break. I just wanted to mention that
to you because you might want to take that. Today's
the last day that you'll be able to see that movie.
Imagine at some point in time it'll come on streaming
on video, or you can get it on a DVD.
Ad people still buy DVDs.

Speaker 10 (02:00:39):
I think it's all gone to Blu ray and maybe
even beyond that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:42):
That's right. I prefer actually disks.

Speaker 10 (02:00:44):
And people are still even buying media. Most people just
stream everything. Yeah, yeah, which that means your library can
evaporate instantly.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
That's right, that's right. Yeah, we run out of we
have some kind of a emp or something in our
culture as vanishes. It has become very ethereal life is.
I just got to pull the plug on the stream
and it's all gone.

Speaker 10 (02:01:09):
To be fair, I wouldn't mourn too much if this
culture just went foot overnight.

Speaker 2 (02:01:14):
That's right. Yeah, Well, we want to cover those comments
before we go to our guests. We've got Jack Lawson, Yes,
Jack Lawson Books is ready to join us.

Speaker 11 (02:01:21):
I guess he's on the line.

Speaker 10 (02:01:23):
Okay, we'll run through these Pezidovante seventeen seventy six. This
is a thirty five year old extremely fit coworker of
my sister suffered a stroke recently at the office nine.
When one was called, she was hospitalized, tests were run.
My sister learned yesterday that this otherwise healthy, young married
woman had been convid facts.

Speaker 2 (02:01:42):
Sorry to see that.

Speaker 10 (02:01:43):
So pray for this woman. Yeah, yes, and Guard Goldsmith
And of course you can find Guard at Liberty Conspiracy
on Rumble six pm weekday nights.

Speaker 11 (02:01:55):
Check him out. He says.

Speaker 10 (02:01:56):
Evolution claims gradual random mutation offers, but gradual is not
significant enough to change, so they created the pretense of
punctuated equilibrium, which is not gradual.

Speaker 2 (02:02:07):
It's insane, that's right. Well, you know one of the
things is okay, So they want to tell us that,
you know, mice and bats are relayed to each other,
you know, the one in balls into the other. As
a matter of fact, even German the fleet of mouse, right,
the flying mouse is what they call it. Well, you
know what happens if you know, whether you're going from
a mouse to a bat or from a bat to

(02:02:28):
a mouse, if it can't fly but it's still got
wings or vestigial wings or something like that, that's a
disadvantage to the mouse. I mean, the mouse is big
advantages that can squeeze through anything, right, I couldn't do
that if it's got some you know, burgeoning wings that
are there, So that doesn't work at all. And that's
the case with all these different things. One of the
reasons why you know, we go through this would teach

(02:02:49):
the kids, you know, about a woodpecker, or about a giraffe,
or about this or that. All these different animals have
all these different systems in them that are unique to
that particular animal, and they reinforce each other, and one
of those systems by itself would be a detriment to
their survival. They all have to be there all at once,

(02:03:10):
and there's not any way for them to show that happening.

Speaker 10 (02:03:14):
So, yes, we have Christian constitutional conservative. He says, his
mercy seems to be selective. Why her and not the
four year old with stage four cancer dying in Saint Jude's.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
That's right, we don't understand it at this point in time.
And yes, God's mercy is selective, and we don't understand
what he's doing. I mean, it's not always even about us,
sometimes about the people around us, and so we really
can't understand that it's like the song by I can't

(02:03:45):
remember the guy's name, but it's God works in mysterious ways,
right as wonders to perform.

Speaker 10 (02:03:53):
Yeah, I mean even in my own personal life, you
will know I've got RA and it sucks. I can't run,
my walk is all screwed up. There's no soft tissue
in my knees anymore, so there's pain. But I've met
so many kind people, people just questioning like, hey, what's up,
what's a what's you got going on?

Speaker 11 (02:04:12):
Why are you limping?

Speaker 10 (02:04:13):
And for all I know, the reason I have this
is because maybe one day I'll get the chance to,
you know, witness to someone about it. So got to
keep these things in perspective. The Clay can't say to
the potter, why have you made me this way?

Speaker 2 (02:04:29):
And you never know you know what it saved you from.
I mean you were going to ride motorcycles. The motorcycle
was Yeah, that's the RA is maybe less of an
issue than if you had had an accent on a motorcycle.
So that's what your mom and I always think.

Speaker 10 (02:04:48):
That probably would have led to a bit more crippling. Yeah, mom,
to see in nineteen ninety six, as my father in
law was healed of ms after the pastor prayed over him.
This was fifty years ago.

Speaker 2 (02:05:00):
Yes, that's right. And that's what I like about his book.
It's not just a collect I mean there I said,
there is a two volume set of books that is
just a collection of things like that. But you know,
he looks at it from a lot of different standpoints.
You know, it's like, we have the miracle of our
relationship and rebirth with Christ. That's a big deal, right,

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obviously the biggest the miracle of the Bible. We have
a lot of different miracles. We have miracles and providence
and things like that. But he examines the the efficacy
of prayer and things like that in perspective of secularists
in terms of reacting to it as well. It's a
very balanced book. I thought it was an excellent book. Well,
we're going to take a quick break and we have

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an interview with Jack Lawson, and I think you're all
going to find this to be very interesting and it
is a time, as we in this very dangerous time,
that we shall be thinking about that. So we're going
to take a break and we'll be right back with
Jack Lawson.

Speaker 16 (02:06:02):
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Speaker 7 (02:06:13):
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Speaker 17 (02:06:16):
Remember chrisis, I have you lost? Remember christisave your King.

Speaker 16 (02:08:09):
Jesus scheme?

Speaker 2 (02:08:20):
All right, welcome back and joining us now is Jack
Lawson and you can find his books Civil Defense Manual.
You can find that at jacklowsonbooks dot com. He also
has a substack that he puts up very interesting articles.
He's had so much experience and survival type of situations
and he knows a lot of people who are very

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well schooled and who are expert and have lived this,
and so there's a lot of excellent tips in this book.
I wanted to get him on today because I wanted
to talk about the vulnerability that I see in terms
of infrastructure. Very first time I talked to Jack, we
were talking about how vulnerable our infrastructure was MP attack
or something like that, and that was a long time ago.

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And we see all of these vulnerabilities really manifest, you know,
multiplying and interconnected, and so our entire society, our grid
and everything that supports it is getting more and more complex.
And you know, we see this happening with the AI
stuff that is there. The AI coming in and being

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inserted into our society is going to be a whole
nother point of possible failure when we become dependent on that.
We're going to pull that in Jack into the Pentagon.
They're very excited about pulling AI and the Pentagon. I
don't know about that. I don't necessarily think that's a
good thing. And so you have these different types of

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failure modes. And because we just had a couple of
stories about that that I didn't get to yet today.
But it can fail in some spectacular ways. But even
the buildout of the data centers and the power that
they require is going to be a real challenging thing.
Whether it is the green agenda that's being imposed on
people in the EU and the UK destroying manufacturing and

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rationing energy making extremely expensive, or whether it is going
to be done because of AI data centers, because they're
going to get their first crack at any energy and
it's going to affect the rapid buildout is going to
affect the rates of energy as well as the availability.
So we got threats coming from both the left and

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the right in terms of the energy infrastructure, and that
is such a fundamental part of our society. We can
all remember back to the rationing that happened with Opek.
Just think when they start rationing electricity and other things
like that. And that can come from any number of directions,
but it also can come from conflict. We look at

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what is happening in Ukraine in Russia war. The two
of them are taking potshots at each other's infrastructure. And
it is so incredibly easy, and you've talked about this
many times, Jack, So incredibly easy to take out this
complicated distributed infrastructure, and it can be very time consuming
to get it back if they take out the right things.

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Can it.

Speaker 3 (02:11:15):
Yes, it can. David Died first like to say this,
I have a Christian mentor now I'm just trying to
get the heathen out of myself. But he's we all
are retired Army colonel, very very articulate and intelligent guy.

Speaker 2 (02:11:36):
He sent me.

Speaker 3 (02:11:38):
A picture from the Hubble telescope of our galaxy and
he put an arrow to a little spot and I
think it was in the O Ryan arm and he
put a little arrow to it and said us, and
I look at this thing. I put it at the
top of my to do list that look every day,

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I've got to run it out eight weeks so I
know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (02:12:04):
And I was just blown away by it.

Speaker 3 (02:12:09):
The Bible. I'm going on seventy nine. Am I afraid?

Speaker 2 (02:12:14):
No, I'm not afraid.

Speaker 3 (02:12:16):
I used to think I was lucky, you know, and
things that have happened in my life. I shouldn't be
talking to you. I mean, it's just that I'm not
trying to portray myself as mister danger action guy or
anything like that. But the point being this, issues I've
had with my daughter, issues I've had in combat.

Speaker 2 (02:12:43):
I shouldn't be here.

Speaker 3 (02:12:45):
My daughter wouldn't be here if, in my opinion, it
wasn't divine intervention. And I think people have to know.
This is the first year I'm looking at Christmas differently.
It's not decoratingations, it's not toys for the kids. Uh,
it's uh, it's it's a good feeling, and it's it's

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the birth of somebody I believe is the savior of mankind. Unfortunately,
we live as prisoners in physical under physical laws that
I don't think apply, and the rest of the universe.

(02:13:30):
And uh, people people look at this as things can
happen that are outside of this dimension. Uh, you know,
I think they're then in the you know, like mass prayer,
I believe it has a basis. But anyway, going back

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to let me, let me just the ultimately.

Speaker 2 (02:13:53):
The ultimate preparation, right is relief that that event that's
going to happen to each and every one of us,
And that's really what we need to prepare for first
and foremost, I think, and you're absolutely right about that. Yeah. Yeah,
in this realm food and water.

Speaker 3 (02:14:11):
I used to put food first. They're changing it around
now to put water in food because the water situation.

Speaker 2 (02:14:18):
Is that's moved up the ladder.

Speaker 3 (02:14:22):
I don't think people realize we don't have the wells
that we used to have. We to open wells. We
have a structure that's so complex and so dangerous and
so fragile, and foreign governments that don't like us have

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been spent thirty five years or more practicing hacking into
our systems.

Speaker 2 (02:14:52):
And now will that.

Speaker 3 (02:14:54):
Happen for for any reason? I think will happen if
we align ourselves in some of these ongoing wars.

Speaker 2 (02:15:03):
Yeah, we've already aligned.

Speaker 3 (02:15:04):
Ourselves in the Middle East, so that makes a bunch
of enemies. But I think that people have got to
look at one thing for Christmas. If they're going to
get anything get some blue barrels, a couple of them,
and fill them full of water. I have an article
for free on my my Civil Defense website. It tells

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people how to out of store water and store it
safely to keep it back terry from growing in it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:15:37):
Yeah, because as we think about Darling, you know, he
thought he saw back terry growing into the water. He
has spontaneous generation. It's life coming out of water.

Speaker 3 (02:15:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:15:47):
It's like, well, no, water is a condition that's necessary
for life, but it doesn't create life. But yeah, you
can wind up with a lot of living things in
your water. You properly, can't you. It's oh, yeah, it's true.

Speaker 3 (02:15:59):
I've had I've consumed water when it was in Africa
that looked great until we found u. The black guys
with me drank a couple of canteen full and they'd
been used to those water sources. I put purifying tableists
in mine and I had a Meebeg dysentery within twenty
four hours.

Speaker 2 (02:16:19):
And it looked the water looks.

Speaker 3 (02:16:20):
So good until we pulled the float cover up. It
was in the middle of a Mozambique and it was
a cattle watering trough with windmill. We pulled the float
cover up and there was a dead monkey under there,
full of maggots, and uh, the black guys were peachy.
They were just all happy and everything. I wasn't the
next day. I can guarantee you I had it for

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a couple of months and finally had doctor and parachute
going to going through parachute school with me. He said,
I get to care for it, and I'll spury the
ghastly detail. It was unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (02:16:57):
Yeah, no more dysentery after that. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (02:17:01):
People didn't want to be around me.

Speaker 2 (02:17:04):
But so important things don't don't don't have dead monkeys
in your water. That's important safety that say.

Speaker 3 (02:17:11):
Well, you know, and this is true of water you
see in a beer commercial going down the Rocky Mountain,
uh stream. You know it can look good, but it's
it's unbelievable. I'll say this, even city water.

Speaker 2 (02:17:26):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:17:27):
It's you know, trying to talk to these guys that
run these places, uh and getting information from them. They
don't want to say anything. But the bottom line is
if you're depending on your tap water, you can expect
it to be shut off at some point, and you.

Speaker 2 (02:17:46):
Can also expect that maybe there's not a dead monkey,
but there might be apported babies in it. Right, That's
what I was talking about earlier. You know that there.

Speaker 3 (02:17:53):
Wasn't aware of that until I watched you say about that.

Speaker 2 (02:17:56):
Yeah, I mean you think about I mean, well, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:17:59):
I can't get one thing about this abortion. What happened
to birth control? I know, I don't understand why this
is the means of keeping from you know, a woman
getting rid of a baby is birth control?

Speaker 2 (02:18:17):
That's the spirit.

Speaker 3 (02:18:18):
To me, Yes, that's there, And I think it's wrong,
and I think it's actually evil. Age people do this
unless it's a medical emergency, and that would have to
be really defined properly.

Speaker 2 (02:18:33):
Well, it's taking a long time for us to get
the right to really realize what it truly is and
what it's about. And they've done a very good job
of keeping people in the dark about it, and and
so you know, I it took a very long time.
I remember, you know, when I was younger, and Christians
all around me, none of them really got it. I mean,

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the Catholics understood it much earlier. For whatever reason, it
took a much longer time for most Protestants come around
and really realized what was really going on here started
posing it. So, yeah, they can people pretty easily. My
wife and I are third child.

Speaker 3 (02:19:10):
We'd actually paid for an abortion. We were living in Minnesota.
Then we went to Minnesota, Minneapolis. It was going to happen.
At six o'clock in the morning, we went out for supper.
She could eat until twelve o'clock and we sat there
and we looked at each other and we both started
crying and we said, you know something, We're going to

(02:19:31):
take what comes from this. We'll just take it as
that's the way. That's what we got good and we
got a beautiful daughter out of it.

Speaker 2 (02:19:42):
My god.

Speaker 3 (02:19:43):
She was the first place fitness finalist in the United
States against four thousand girls in Los Angeles. That's a
great and she's a wonderful assault of the Earth girl.

Speaker 2 (02:19:53):
She's very got her kids in a Christian school.

Speaker 3 (02:19:56):
She pulled them out of the school system where she
lives because of the the DEI and woke stuff that's
in there, and it's out of control. So you know,
we took what was given us and it was a godsend.
And I used that word godsend as one word because

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that's what we got it had to come from there.
I can't even begin to tell you all of the
issues I've had. She had another issue from me. Let
me let me tell Let me tell you listening audience,
a little bit about me. The first thing was, I
was in the American Air Force, and this is the

(02:20:41):
crazy guy that wanted to go to Vietnam, and everybody
that was going didn't want to go, and I wanted
to go. I went into electronics. I was guaranteed I
could go to Air Commando school, and I got stuck
in a missile squadron in Minnesota. I'm from Minnesota. I
didn't even know there was an Air Force base there,
and I ended up getting advanced to electronics training because

(02:21:07):
of my electronics aptitude. So I was the new guy
that got stuck sitting on top of the warhead of
the W forty thermonuclear warhead and I got it radiated
from it. And I'm in the process of determining some
of this. But the daughter I'm talking about, all three

(02:21:29):
of our kids are great, but the daughter I'm talking
about almost died from a massive hemorrhage. She's one of
five recorded women in the world with two uterry and
she got pregnant in the deformed one and of all places,

(02:21:49):
she has a software company too. She's going into an
attorney's office and she called me. She said, Dad, she
said something's wrong. She said, I've been bleeding before, but
I'm a lot. And she lost eight of her nine
blood units. I said, get on nine to one one
right now. So they sent an ambulance over from the
trauma center right next door to where she was and

(02:22:12):
got her in there. They couldn't save the baby. They
saved her, but of all things, now, tell me what
the odds are? Am I lucky about this? Next door
in that trauma center there was one of the world's
foremost gynecological surgeons giving a lecture to one hundred doctors,
American doctors. He's from Croatia, and they pulled him out

(02:22:36):
of that lecture, took him in there. Again. He couldn't
save the baby, but baby's four months old or something.
But he spent six hours reconstructing her female organs and
she's got two wonderful, beautiful normal kids. Now, tell me

(02:22:58):
what the odds are that you would out a gynecological
surgeon like that right next to you.

Speaker 2 (02:23:05):
So anyway, that's a providential miracle right there. Yeah, not
only was there a doctor in the house, but he
turned out to be an expert obstetrician. How about that?

Speaker 3 (02:23:15):
Yeah, he I wrote a nice letter to him. He
was just a great guy about everything.

Speaker 2 (02:23:22):
Am I getting.

Speaker 3 (02:23:23):
Afraid because I'm seventy nine. No, I've faced deaths so
many times. I'm numb to it. And I mean that
I am numb to it. When I see a catastrophic
situation that I come across. I don't rackt like most
people racked mechanically. I've seen things that people haven't seen.

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After the Air Force, I went into the Foreign Legion
in Africa in a nasty guerrilla war. I was in
an anti terrorist unit and I got my fill of
combat after that.

Speaker 2 (02:24:01):
Coming back to the United States.

Speaker 3 (02:24:03):
Is on one of the largest police boards in the
United States for seven years, and in doing that, I
ended up riding around with policemen all the time. And
I have a great deal of sympathy for policemen. People
complain about this happened, and that happened, and they're a

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cross section of people, like as much as they filter out,
they're a cross section. There's good ones and bad ones.
A vast majority of them are good people, so I've
had a lot of.

Speaker 2 (02:24:34):
Experience with that.

Speaker 3 (02:24:35):
I'm not going to go into other things, but the
long and short of it is, I'm more than lucky.
And as I told you once before, one of my
friends looked in my car and saw a Bible and said,
laws and you a Bible, And I said.

Speaker 2 (02:24:54):
Yeah, I said, I go to a Bible study group.

Speaker 3 (02:24:56):
I've got a combat Veterans group that came out of
the VA that I go to, and I've got a
another group of Christian people I go there. I have
problems relating. I'm trying to connect to our Lord and
Savior and God and the Holy Spirit, and I'm working

(02:25:17):
on it.

Speaker 2 (02:25:18):
Well, you know, that's that's the key thing. You know,
Gratitude is a really really helpful thing for anybody to have.
And so you got the gratitude, but you know, when
you got gratitude and you don't know who you should
be thinking, that's that's you know who you thinkful too?
You know, it just past Thanksgiving. It's important to know
who you are thinkful too and who has put together

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those events in your life. And and that's a real
grounding thing. So I'm glad that you're on your way.
We're all on our way. None of us have really
got it all figured out.

Speaker 3 (02:25:51):
And so.

Speaker 2 (02:25:52):
The blessing is is that you realize that. And that's
the key, that's really the key. So, yeah, you know
you talk about different cops.

Speaker 3 (02:26:03):
Were I forget it, Yes, just wore I forget it.
Merry Christmas to you and your staff.

Speaker 2 (02:26:10):
Well, thank you, Merry Christmas to you as well. Yeah,
you were talking about riding around with the cops and
how Yeah, they're all it's a mixed bag. And I've
talked many times about Frank Cirpico what he had to say.
He said, you know, when you have any institution, you're
going to have good and bad people in it, and
then you're going to the question is is the institution

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going to embrace the bad or is it going to
purge it out. If it embraces it, then it becomes
a corruption throughout the entire institution, which is what he
saw in the police department in New York and what
he spoke out against. But you know, we just had
this terrorist attack over the weekend in Bondi Beach, and
I had an article I didn't get to today, and

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there was a woman who was there, and she said
she got separated from her three year old and all
the shooting was going on, and she said the police
were this and they were just standing around. Two of
them got this whole thing, and she tried to get
one of their guns. She's lucky that they didn't hurt her,
but she tried to get one of their guns because
she's going to go do something about it. And so
they've had a lot of people say they just did around,

(02:27:14):
they didn't do anything. And I've said for the longest time,
this is why you need to have guns. And you know,
teachers need to be armed because you know what happened
with that guy who disarmed the shooter. He didn't have
any weapons, but he and he went after him unarmed,
and so that's heroic. But you don't have that many
heroes in life. But if somebody is coming into your

(02:27:36):
school and shooting people and you've got a gun and
you know how to use it defending yourself and defending
other people there, that's not heroic. That's just self survival.
And that's the key thing that's part of the preparation.
You know, we need to have. Yeah, well, you know
people do.

Speaker 3 (02:27:52):
Thanks for a lot of reasons why. You know, I've
got a part in my book and on my website
of why people become victims, and it's a it's incredible,
it's it's human nature. Though even though it is incredible,
I I would say that I was very much trusted

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and liked by the main street policeman where I was
on this board. They were all apprehensive about having me
in their car at first because there was a board member.

Speaker 2 (02:28:30):
But there's been movies about that right right along, you know,
where your right along.

Speaker 3 (02:28:36):
Most of them their first instinct is to open the
door and push you out. You know, they watch it,
you know, But they just they got to trust me,
and the word went around and so they had me
in their cars and they liked the fact. You know, uh,

(02:28:57):
they were generally a ninety nine percent of our great guy.
There's there's a like I said, it's this cross section.
As much filtering as they do, they get people in
there maybe shouldn't be in there. But they were great people.
But it absolutely did one thing for me. I wanted
to be a policeman at one time, and I no
longer want to be a policeman. Those guys in a

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combat zone and then go home to their families. It's uh,
it's a horrible mental trauma.

Speaker 2 (02:29:27):
For those guys. Yeah, it's really tough.

Speaker 3 (02:29:28):
Group. Actually are one of our groups that I go to,
the Bible Studies. We're trying to get some of these
guys in. But politics come into play.

Speaker 11 (02:29:38):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:29:39):
That's the unfortunate part of a lot of this.

Speaker 2 (02:29:41):
Mm hmmm hm. You know politics is always there. Well,
you have the books at Jack Lawson Books. You also
have a substack. Tell us a little bit about your substack,
where people can find it, and the kinds of articles
that you've been out there. We've reposted some of them.

Speaker 3 (02:29:59):
Well, oh, I go back to one thing. I feel
like an insurance salesman. You know, that's talking to somebody's
blind and death. It's critical that people store water and food,
bottom line, water and food.

Speaker 2 (02:30:19):
Second thing is medicines.

Speaker 3 (02:30:22):
And the third thing is to get together with your
neighbors and get to know your neighbors.

Speaker 2 (02:30:28):
And the reason you want to do.

Speaker 3 (02:30:29):
That if things go bad, you're going to have an
idea who you can count on and who you cannot
count on. I have a whole structure of setting up
a neighborhood group like we do. The long and short
of the thing is if things go really bad, which

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there's a strong possibility of, especially over this Ukrainian situation,
I don't want to bum people out before Christmas, but
the next five months you can probably expect European Union
to go into the Ukraine directly. I don't know what
they're going to go in with, woke units that are

(02:31:15):
wearing high heels or what.

Speaker 2 (02:31:16):
But the French sent.

Speaker 3 (02:31:19):
Fifteen hundred foreign legionnaires in there, and I think they're
probably all gone. I haven't heard anything more about it,
but I'm not supporting the Russians, but I can tell
you that they have obliterated almost everything has been set

(02:31:39):
in against them. I'm sure Putin's a pretty ruthless guy.
One of my friends in my special Corson chapter arrested
him one time in Berlin and they let him go
because they thought he was a low level guy. They
didn't know he ran all of the East German KGB,

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and there's.

Speaker 2 (02:32:06):
A lot of people that are miscalculating about him.

Speaker 3 (02:32:08):
Arthur, Oh, yeah, he's very very intelligent guy that knows
how to use deception absolutely to his benefit. But if
we go in there, that's when this hacking, if we
get dragged into this thing. There's a couple of bills
in front of Congress to get us out of NATO,
which that should have been done a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (02:32:29):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:32:30):
But if we get pressured, the president gets pressured because
of a treaty to put people in there, and we
get directly involved, or even indirectly to a degree, I
think you're going to see hacking of systems, water, who
knows drone attacks. I mean, look what's going on over

(02:32:51):
in the Ukraine. I don't think they're going to have
very many Christmas tree lit over there. Their whole electrical
structure is just.

Speaker 2 (02:32:58):
Not unless I got a match. Yeah, they're burning the tree.

Speaker 3 (02:33:03):
Figure that's about all the.

Speaker 2 (02:33:04):
They're going to have.

Speaker 3 (02:33:06):
They've taken out almost all their electrical Yeah, when you
get down to generators, it's a touchy thing, you know,
to run most systems.

Speaker 2 (02:33:14):
And they're going there on the other hand as well,
not just Ukraine from Russia, but the Ukrainians are sending
in drones to blow up oil depots and other things
like that, refineries inside of Russia. It's going in both directions,
and it is it's so easy to do now with
the drone warfare, and so we stop and think about this.
You know, if we're going to have if we're going

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to turn the drug war into a hot war and
we're going to start shooting and bombing these different drug cartels.
They've been around now for over fifty years, and they've
gotten a lot of money, they've gotten very ruthless, and
they've got a lot of equipment as well. But they
don't even need to have a lot of equipment. They
could do their own asymmetric warfare. When you look at it,

(02:33:56):
they could start blowing up our infrastructure if we go
against Venezuela, if we go against Mexican drug cartels.

Speaker 5 (02:34:03):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:34:03):
And really if he wants to go against the Fennyl,
that's obviously going to be attacking Mexican cartels and so
that kind of thing could escalate very quickly. If that
were to happen, I would expect all of this, which
I think, you know, putting the troops into cities for
immigration stuff, I think that was really more about moving
the Overton window to put them into cities, which is

(02:34:25):
something the Pentagon has been talking about doing for a
long time, talked about this under Obama, even this is
a bipartisan agenda. It happens with Democrats have as Republicans
got to move the military into the cities. We're going
to be fighting in the city, said Pentagon videos. And
I played those for people now for over a decade,
and that would be the thing that would kick it off,

(02:34:46):
and people would be cheering for that. If we've got
drug cartels that start.

Speaker 3 (02:34:50):
Taking out, yeah, that's right, that's a double edged sword
putting troops in I I don't know how they're going
to rectify this issue with all of these people in
here sucking the financial system dry. It's way more money

(02:35:12):
than I think anybody's reported. But I look at the
alleged eight billion dollars in Minnesota that just disappeared of
federal funds. My absolute fraud. I come from a multiracial family,
but my sisters and brothers adopted kids.

Speaker 2 (02:35:35):
From all over the world.

Speaker 3 (02:35:37):
They were kids, they grew up to become Americans. When
you bring somebody from Africa.

Speaker 2 (02:35:43):
And.

Speaker 3 (02:35:46):
I warned people of this that not to bash the Muslims,
but they're Muslim and they don't integrate very well. They
never did over there. A lot of them are Muslims, and.

Speaker 2 (02:36:00):
Uh especially when you bring them in in a large mass.

Speaker 3 (02:36:03):
Yeah, yeah, you bring them in with the adult mindset,
and the first thing they do is what they did
where they were from. And they want to tell you
all about your country. But the place a left as
a hole in the ground. It's it's absolutely atrocious. I mean,
I I've seen these people. I've seen the starvation, I've

(02:36:24):
seen the killing. It's just there, there's somebody you don't
want in your society. Yet they've how many millions have
they brought into this country. It's it's out of control.

Speaker 2 (02:36:37):
And yeah, you were saying that you were in you
were saying you were in Minneapolis. That's now become a
little Mogadishu.

Speaker 3 (02:36:45):
Oh my god. I've talked to people, a friend of mine,
his sons, a homicide detective in Minneapolis and parts of
town they don't even go into with a with a
envoy of police cars. It's just too dangerous. And that's
that's never been before. The Minneapolis I remember was pretty calm,

(02:37:10):
and uh, you didn't have those types of situations.

Speaker 2 (02:37:14):
And again, if you're getting back to do something, why
not start there? You know, would have been the obvious
starting place, But they waited a long time to get
involved there, didn't they Oh, it's totally out of control. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:37:27):
Last time I went back there, I could not believe it.
They were giving unvetted people all of the Muslims, they're
giving a tour of the airport to try to remove
suspicions from them, the tour of all the secure areas, everything.
As far as I'm concerned, everybody up there has pretty

(02:37:49):
much lost their mind.

Speaker 2 (02:37:51):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:37:51):
They are too docile about everything. They didn't want to
offend anybody. Yeah, but get your shelf in a group
of those people and see how you're really treated after
they get familiar with you. Going back to the water

(02:38:13):
the food, people don't realize how fragile these things are.
I've got a lot of articles I think one hundred
and twenty or something like that on my substack Jacklawson
dot Jacklawsson Books dot substack dot com.

Speaker 2 (02:38:31):
And there's a lot of articles on there that will.

Speaker 3 (02:38:34):
Tell people how to do some basic preparation. And if
there's one thing I could get across the people of
anything I say today, is to store water and food.

Speaker 2 (02:38:48):
It is critical.

Speaker 3 (02:38:50):
It's going to be a madhouse if you don't have it,
and you're going to be involved.

Speaker 2 (02:38:55):
I believe this that if you don't have a plan,
and you're going to be.

Speaker 3 (02:39:00):
A part of someone else's plan, whether you like it
or not, and that part may be that they're going
to kick your door down injure you, kill you, rape
your wife, daughters, whatever. I don't want to make this
sound horrible, but if if you don't have a means
to defend yourself and you don't have food and water,

(02:39:23):
you're going to be part of that crowd. The other
thing they might be doing, if it gets bad enough,
is having it for supper. Because cannibalism, as much as
people don't think it's it's it's taboo here, it will resurface.
That's the long and short of it.

Speaker 2 (02:39:41):
Yeah. I mean we've seen that with several different movies.
I'm in the one movie about the plane crash, and
that was that the Indies or something, and you know
they're stuck up there and and you know that's what
that was about, you know, but you know, the Donner
party or whatever. You know, that's one of the jokes
we used to always do when we go to a
restaurant that asks for a last name, and I told
him Donner. So they would, they would donner party of five. Yeah,

(02:40:05):
that's us. We're pretty hungry. Better get us the table.

Speaker 3 (02:40:10):
Oh. It starts off as somebody's dying and says I
want to give the gift of my body to you. Yeah,
you know, and people people will resort to that if
if they're hungry.

Speaker 2 (02:40:21):
That's where I draw the line.

Speaker 3 (02:40:23):
I don't know. I suppose living around the world like
I've lived, I've probably had human flesh consumed and didn't
know the difference. But I mean, they they said, had
that poor girl in England thirteen years old, they killed
her and put her in h Kebab's you know, And
really that's that's that's where they that's where these people

(02:40:47):
are out of control. They don't belong in this country. Uh,
they're just I don't want to sound xenophobic, but that's
a fact of life. They don't belong in this country.
If you want the third world in this country, get
used to live in the third world. And I've lived
in it. Yeah, I've lived in the third world. And

(02:41:08):
what I call the fourth world?

Speaker 2 (02:41:11):
And what would you call the fourth world?

Speaker 3 (02:41:13):
Well, I call the third world a place that has
maybe gravel or or beaten paths. The fourth world doesn't
have a path or they're just there.

Speaker 2 (02:41:27):
Yeah, yeah, in a natural, unadulterated state. Right, Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3 (02:41:34):
But we are in a very precarious situation. You know,
this is not hysteria. I have a lot of contacts
people that were in the intelligence community, and they're all
expecting something to happen in the next four or five months.
When I say something happened, I think this Ukrainian thing

(02:41:57):
is just going to go on. It's almost like nine
eighty four you watch that movie, Yeah, and Eurasia and
the rest of the way, they're constantly going out war.

Speaker 2 (02:42:07):
Yeah. Yeah, I've never seen a thing like this in
my lifetime. I've never seen this kind of mass delusion
and insanity. What I think is happening with it, Jack
is you know we about every eighty years, you know,
we have a massive restructuring of society. It's a pattern
that's been pretty well documented, and so we've already got
the economic aspect of the war. Is the next thing

(02:42:28):
is that Gerald Clinty I have on frequently. He usually says,
you know, when when they lose everything, they take you
to war and they understand the mess that they've made
of their countries. They brought in this massive immigration stuff
and you know it's a replacement and it's bearing fruit
now and they're green new deal where they have shut
down people's power and shut down industry and other things

(02:42:51):
like that. People are getting really, really angry about it,
and so they understand that people are catching on that,
people realize that that's the program, and so to keep
them from coming after them, as a self preservation act,
they will take the country to war. I think that's
the Middle West behind all of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:43:10):
I take if you look at history, World War one,
World War two, to a degree, the Civil War was
over people in the South bypassing financial people in the
North and sending their cotton buying their equipment for cotton
processing directly from England. That was economic to First World

(02:43:34):
War economic, Second World Wars economic. Look, the European Union
is a disaster. It's broke. When Germany closes its Volkswagen
plant after eighty eight years, you know something's wrong that
they've had so much, so many woke programs, and they've

(02:43:56):
spent so much money on social programs that are away
that they don't have anything.

Speaker 2 (02:44:02):
Left and they stop making cars they're going to start
making weapons. That's that's the key thing.

Speaker 3 (02:44:06):
Yeah, that kind of covers the book.

Speaker 2 (02:44:08):
Beat their plowshares into swords the way around.

Speaker 3 (02:44:12):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:44:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:44:12):
Yeah, So I think that if the European Union goes
in that you're going to start to see a lot
of long range weapons that are not available now being
given to the Ukraine, and they're going to start striking
deep in inside of Russia. And I think the first

(02:44:35):
thing that's going to happen is, well, imagine this hoot
and calling Macron and the French premiere and saying, you
know that city, lil you got up there in northern Plants, Well,
you better evacuate it because we're going to obliterate it
the next forty eight hours. They don't have any defense against.
There's four or five weapons systems the Russians have, and

(02:44:57):
the Chinese pretty much have the same thing that they
have no defense against.

Speaker 2 (02:45:02):
That's right, hypersonic hypersonic stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:45:05):
I just hope you don't get. Yeah, the Kinshell or
Reshnik and some of these missiles.

Speaker 2 (02:45:13):
They've got a.

Speaker 3 (02:45:14):
Nuclear cruise missile. Now that's been on a drawing board
since nineteen fifty three. We started toying with it, but
we dropped it. But they have developed something apparently, so
I don't want to see this happen. There's been way
too many people killed. Anybody waves the flag and wants
to go to war probably hasn't been involved in one.

(02:45:37):
The death and destruction is beyond words, and you just
can't convey it. So people need to store food and water,
bottom line.

Speaker 2 (02:45:49):
And it's really really is upon us. I mean, you know,
there was a rumor mill that was sent around, and
you know some people say, well, that was just to
get people to watch Trump's address, you know, saying that
they were going to go declare war. But my take
on it, Jack, what you think when he declares his
total blockade and then Venezuela responds by saying, well, then

(02:46:09):
we're going to use our navy to escort the tankers,
it seems to me like it's really imminent there, because
you know, it's just a push comes to shove and
and we're really close to that happening. And it is
my take on it was I figured that the White
House administration staff figured that was probably going to kick
off before even had his speech. I'm surprised that it

(02:46:30):
hasn't kicked off yet. I mean, I haven't looked at
the news while I've been doing the news here, but
I wouldn't be surprised if I get finished with the
show and I see that. You know, they've already kicked
off hostilities there with in Vietnam and Vietnam and Venezuela.
I call it Vineennam because it it's like we're getting
dragged into this thing.

Speaker 3 (02:46:51):
Yeah, it's unfortunate, but I think a lot of that
comes from I don't know, I've read that a lot
of the computers systems there were tabulating votes were seeming
to center out of Venezuela for some reason. On the
twenty twenty election. I think that.

Speaker 2 (02:47:10):
Well, smart Matic has been at the epicenter of all
these questions about electronic election integrity, and there have been
you know that it started there with some pals of
Hugo Chavez, and they have had massive scandals in many
other countries, not just in America. I mean, they were
accused of election interference in the Philippines, in Brazil, I

(02:47:34):
think it was in several different provinces of Mexico. So
they have a long history, which is the thing that
really amazed me. All the people who were pushing against,
you know, for the election stuff in twenty twenty, for Trump,
never brought up that history of smart Matic, you know,
even after they had the lawsuits and stuff, they didn't say, well,
we're not the only ones saying this. This has been
said in you know, more than a half dozen different countries.

(02:47:56):
They accused you of manipulating the elections.

Speaker 3 (02:47:58):
I questioned why that was.

Speaker 2 (02:48:01):
Yeah, exactly, why wouldn't they make that case and you know,
and why would they continue to use the machines anyway?
I said that in twenty sixteen, you had the Republican
Party in Utah and they had a lot of strong
opposition in Utah to Trump in twenty sixteen, and they
wound up running a guy who had former CIA against

(02:48:25):
Trump to try to play games with you know, we're
going through and getting the electors, you know, for the nomination.
But I questioned why the Utah Republican Party would bring
in of all things Smartmatic into Utah. And I questioned
that back in twenty sixteen, I said, so, why are
they trying to rig this? You know? And I think
they know that the thing is rigged. They just want

(02:48:47):
to be able to pull the levers themselves. You know.
That's why they don't really pull the curtain back and
tell you what's going on. That could be.

Speaker 3 (02:48:55):
I'm just I'm of the belief we need to go
back to the indelible ink figure and paper ballots that
I felt something was going on way back when they
were having the dreaded tab problem down in Florida.

Speaker 2 (02:49:14):
Yeah, there was something.

Speaker 3 (02:49:16):
It just didn't look right.

Speaker 2 (02:49:19):
The hanging chads. The hanging chad long before chad became
a meme of some rugged guy that the internet. But yeah,
that was I thought that was really if you look
at that point in time and you mentioned, you know,
the indelible ink on the fingers, that's how they were
in the elections in Iraq. And it's like, it's pretty

(02:49:40):
easy to do this. You do it on one day,
You get the indelible ink that's there, and you have
paper ballots, and you have people watching it as it's counted.
It's not rocket science. It doesn't have to be the
rocket science. Want to mentuate it.

Speaker 3 (02:49:55):
I had a woman, a black woman in my office.
Her We were friends with her and her husband, and
they knew all about my background. And he was a
great guy. She was a great woman, and she was
Daily's right hand man. She said, if they're sending one
of the dailies down to Florida to sort that out,

(02:50:18):
she said, those guys are masters at election deception. And
she went right in the middle of an election. They
told her to take some buses and run them around
and because the other the guy that was doing the
buses was sick, and she said, I'm not going to
do that, they.

Speaker 2 (02:50:35):
Fired her on the spot. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:50:38):
The funny thing was her husband was a very prominent
architect and all of a sudden, all of his business
dried up. They had to leave Chicago. They virtually had
zero income compared to millions, and they came out to
Las Vegas and ended up getting a business there. I

(02:50:59):
went to testified former in court as an expert witness
on something, and oh my god, I could not believe
what was going on. It was like following them there.
Oh yeah, it wasn't a judge, it just was the
whole situation didn't sound right. But she was very, very

(02:51:21):
well versed in election deception. She said, I saw it
all the time. They get Republican people as pol watchers
who are really Democrats and they've been that for thirty
years and they totally control it. So yeah, I'm worried
about the twenty twenty sixth election.

Speaker 2 (02:51:41):
I don't even worry about the elections anymore. I worry
what they're going to do once they get in and
I see the things being done by these different people.

Speaker 3 (02:51:48):
You know, I think we've got a movement in the
right direction. But how much another three years is going
to do I don't know, or two years if they
don't have control of the Congress. But I mean, why
worry about uh, if you're going to talk Democrat or Republican,
why worry about a Democrat or Republican when you got

(02:52:11):
Republicans are worse than Democrats. Sports are part Colonel law.
Colonel Douglas McGregor made a very interesting statement, which was
they vote the way their donations come in. Their donations
come in heavily from defense industry. So in a in

(02:52:34):
a way, as much as Trump supposedly has tried to
stop wars, there's a movement that's the undercurrent is still
go to war. They need to prepare, they need to
get their mind right about this thing.

Speaker 15 (02:52:55):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:52:55):
The situation we live in is just extremely volatile. We've
got all of these social media platforms. One lady told me,
I call them Satan's platforms because they people will say
and do things. It's polarizing everybody. People will say things
to a person on the internet of an affronte. I

(02:53:18):
know an African American woman who got fired from her
job for simply responding on Facebook to a statement she
put out and they took her statement without the other
statement that got deleted and sent it to her an employer,
and they fired her. She had no hearing, nothing, They

(02:53:41):
just flat out fired her. And it was wrong what
they did. She's a very nice lady. And this is
the kind of thing that goes on through these social
media platforms. Hell, I got rid of my iPhone. I
got a flip phone just to keep my sanity.

Speaker 2 (02:54:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:54:00):
It's uh, oh yeah, that's it's just constant. I see
people they've got their nose stuck in their iPhone. What
they've got need to do is look around with what's
around them. That a grocery store has got groceries excuse me,
before because a truck delivered them. I mean, you have

(02:54:23):
a direct supply to distributors. Now a grocery store being
a distributor, they don't even have a warehouse with reserved
foods in them anymore. I go over all this stuff
in the Civil Defense Manual and if I've had people
read it. I had one guy that bought my book

(02:54:44):
and he sent me an email he said, I don't know,
he said, I don't like to read that much, but
I bought your books. But my wife's read them and
now she's telling me everything we've got to do.

Speaker 2 (02:54:54):
So it's I got the A to Z in there,
and you got it in a book format too, because yeah,
it's one of the first things we talked about the
fact that you know, you did that deliberately because you
don't want people to have to be dependent on electricity
your internet in order to be able to get access
to that information in the worst case scenario that won't

(02:55:15):
be there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:55:15):
So I also put it in fourteen point font it's
big letters, and I put it in such a manner
as eight and a half by eleven in the book
so people can read it easily. Yeah. And this guy
told me that his wife is now who wasn't for
any kind of preparation before she'd buy in everything. He said,

(02:55:36):
I have to watch her. He said, you'll go in
and pick twenty cans of something up in a grocery store.
But that grocery store is there because the truck runs.
A truck runs because there's fuel. Truck runs because there's
nothing interfering with the navigation system or the truck computer systems,
and that's very fragile, just like the water system.

Speaker 2 (02:55:57):
That's right, and the fuel is because they've got a
refinery that it's still working that hasn't been hit by
a drone or something like that as well. Correct, just
so many points of vulnerability everywhere. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:56:09):
Yeah, didn't they have a drone attack on a fuel
dump out in California here about three or four months ago.

Speaker 2 (02:56:17):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (02:56:17):
I don't remember that they tried. I didn't see a
lot of.

Speaker 2 (02:56:20):
It's happening all the time in Russia and Ukraine, and
it's just a matter of time before it happens. It
was very, very easy to do.

Speaker 3 (02:56:26):
Yeah, I don't know how a person's going to survive
over there in the winter without some kind of a
heat source, I mean natural gas, I don't know fire. Yeah, well,
it'll be like the very first story in my book
about what happened in Bosnia in nineteen nineties. This was

(02:56:48):
a civil society. It turned into a bunch of animals.
They for one year, these people starved. The worst of
people came out and people say, oh, this is America.
It can't happen here. America is full of people. People
are people, and it will happen here, maybe worse than

(02:57:10):
it happens over there. The movies seem to give us
all of the weird things to think about, and I
think people will employ that stuff so well.

Speaker 2 (02:57:20):
I mean, just like what happened in twenty twenty. You know,
we saw, oh my god, you know, the ability of
you know, people who will follow orders that they shouldn't
be following. You, A lack of judgment, the ignorance, the
gaslighting that was happening, and all the rest of this stuff.
I mean, you know, it was. It was insane. I mean,
we're just doing it all to ourselves. Is absolutely no

(02:57:41):
reason for any of it. It was totally.

Speaker 3 (02:57:46):
I have to say I said this once before. I
think in your show my mother in law, we got
her out of Africa, got her here, she's been here
for seven years now. We got her her citizens and
I have to say this. She had both of her
legs amputated because she had all the COVID shots. Nobody

(02:58:09):
could figure out. All the vascular surgeons, nobody would say
they knew what it was. The closest they'd get was
autoimmune deficiency. She had so many cloths removed her first
or foot toes foot, leg up to mid thigh. Other
leg came off after her hip. She's in a wheelchair now.

(02:58:32):
And I have to say this. Trump was good enough
to have the Immigration service when she got eligible, they
swore her in and the old Folks Home. They had
a couple of the immigration people come there and that
was very touching. We had a big ceremony and the
videotaped and everything. It was a good thing. But unfortunately

(02:58:56):
her citizenship swearing in came after she lost or legs. Now,
they thought they.

Speaker 2 (02:59:02):
Were going to take a right arm off.

Speaker 3 (02:59:04):
That hasn't happened yet, but wow, you've been in a
hospital in and out. One of the doctors finally whispered,
it's a reaction to the COVID vaccine. So I urge people,
and they're afraid to say that vaccine that's right. Yeah,
they're afraid to say that take care of itself, didn't it.

Speaker 2 (02:59:23):
That's right? Yeah, Yeah, they're freaking out about the measles stuff.
They really want to bring that back against us. I
am seeing all this media freak out about it. It's
like you're not even saying anybody died, but look at
how they're freaking out about this. But it is a
blowback because people understand how they were deceived and lied
to throughout this whole COVID thing. Well, it's very important

(02:59:43):
that people prepare. We live in a very very dangerous
time that it's getting rapidly more dangerous, and there's some
things that you can do and should be able to
do to prepare for that. And Jack Lawson has one
of the best guides out there, if not the best
guide that is out there, jacklosson books dot Co Civil
Defense Manual. Thank you Jack for joining us. Have a
good day, Thank you, David. And Merry Christmas. Yes, and

(03:00:06):
Merry Christmas to you and to all of you. A
good weekend.

Speaker 18 (03:00:11):
You can take a photo on a phone, there is
machine learning in the background.

Speaker 4 (03:00:14):
Highest quality video capture ever in a smartphone.

Speaker 18 (03:00:17):
In the metaverse, we're going to need AI that is
build around helping people navigate virtual worlds as well as
our physical world with augmented reality. Augmented reality is a
profound technology included it's like your position in three D space,
your your body language, facial gestures.

Speaker 9 (03:00:35):
We invented new intimate ways to connect and communicate directly from.

Speaker 18 (03:00:41):
Your risk everything from virtual reality to designing our own
data centers.

Speaker 10 (03:00:47):
Describing what's coming even it's just so different in you.
I've been in this infrastructure business for three decades.

Speaker 2 (03:00:53):
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Speaker 18 (03:00:54):
Yeah, and now I expect that these trends will only
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