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April 18, 2025 56 mins
     Gerald Celente, the trend forecasting legend TrendsJournal.com, exposes a media conspiracy silencing the gold’s meteoric rise as it rocketed from $2,041 to $3,327 an ounce.   Wall Street Journal and New York Times are still ignoring spikes of over $100 a day!
     Celente warns of a collapsing dollar, nuclear war risks, and Trump’s chaotic tariffs shaking markets.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Running is now is Jerald Silinty. Always a pleasure to
have Gerald on, and we've had so much that has
happened economically, especially in the last couple of weeks. I
want to get Gerald's take on it. Trends Research dot com.
It's where you can find his publication. Can see a
sample of that. It's a magnificent and thorough, very lengthy
weekly journal that comes out now and you can save

(00:28):
ten percent off with the Code night and I think Gerald,
does that work out to be about for the week,
It works out to be half the price of the
Wall Street Journal of the New York Times for a
day something like that. Good to have you.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
On two dollars and fifty cents a week. Yeah, and
the magazine's over two hundred pages, the Trends Journal.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
And no fluff. You know that's the other thing too.
You're focusing on what's really happening. And you know, I
talked about this last couple of weeks. We now got
people talking about the commercial real estate issue because that's
really surfacing and and you know, you've been talking about
that for years, way ahead of the curve, saying this
is what's going to happen, is going to affect the
banks and many other things as well.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
And look it out of forecast for gold. Yeah, when
we made it, the forecast would be golden year for
gold into twenty twenty four. Back then, gold prices were
two thousand forty I think it was two thousand and
forty one dollars an ounce.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
And today I just what was they?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
I just looked, it's been up in the thirty three
hundred close.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Today we had three thousand, three hundred and twenty seven
dollars announce.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
That could pay for a lot of subscriptions for a
lot of years, couldn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Now this is very important.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
A couple of days ago, price of gold went up
over one hundred dollars announce one day, one hundred and
seven dollars an ounce. Not a word in the Wall
Street Journal really that you pay five dollars a day
for wow.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Not a word last week.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Last weekend when gold price is spiked throughout the week,
Not one word in the Wall Street Journal that you
pay six dollars a day for on the weekend edition.
Not one article before we went on the air today

(02:36):
in the Wall Street Journal about the spiking prices of gold,
or the toilet paper Record, which people call the New
York Times, they call themselves the Paper Record. This is
yesterday's edition, this big, stupid little cartoon for little girls
and boys with brains the size of the pea. The

(02:59):
reason they have these big cartoon pictures here is because
they don't have journalists anymore.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
They fill up the space with stupid pictures on every page.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah look, look, I'm not making this up.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah shit, yep, oh yeah, it looks like USA.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
The word not a word, not a word about gold.
The mainstream media is silencing this. I've been at this
for forty five years. I made my name buying gold,
and when I books trends two thousand trend tracking, I

(03:43):
told the story back in nineteen seventy eight when the
Iranian conflict broke out and they taught us to hate
the Iranians, of course, without telling us how the United
States and the MI six overthrew the democratically elected government
of Mozadegan nineteen fifty three because that lousy Iranian piece

(04:04):
of scum said, no, that oil doesn't belong to Anglo
Iranian oil better known today as BP or Exxon Mobile
excuse me, Standard oil, better known today as Exxon mobile.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
It belongs to the Iranian people. No it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
We're gonna steal your oil and we're gonna kill everybody
that supports you. And now we're gonna bring in the
Shah and the Savaka's secret police that made the SS
look good.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
So when the revolution happened, you know, I knew this.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Thing is real, but they just taught the people to
hate the Iranians. So I did oil and goal futures,
put a five thousand dollars better into each one and
brought it almost up to three quarters of a million dollars.
This is nineteen seventies. I lost most of the money.
I'm gambling away, you know it's still here. Was a
young guy, but my first by gold was around one

(05:04):
hundred and sixty three one hundred and seventy three dollars
an ounce, and then following gold since then.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Wow. Yeah, the revolution was not televised in Iran, right,
Americans are clueless about it and they don't talk about
it in the media either. But yeah, yeah, it's amazing
when you look at what has happened with gold over
the last couple of years, and especially over the last
two years. You know, when you talk about in twenty
twenty four. Truly is amazing.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
We used to have commercials at the end of the
Trends Journal thing, you know, just promoting the Trenchs Journal,
and I had Eric King King World News silently called
the bottom of gold. I called the bottom of gold
a couple of years ago. This is the bottom. I've
never seen gold take off like this. And this is
the important element to what you are listening before about

(05:51):
the uncertainty with Trump every day changes his mind because
he's out of his mind. But that's another story. He
The uncertainty is we are on the verge of nuclear
annihilation and the end of life on Earth. And the

(06:13):
people that are watching the geopolitical without swallowing the stupid
crap that they're shoving down people's throats, know how bad
it is. And the worst of the worst is the disgusting,
murderous Israel genocide, slaughter of the people in Gaza. And

(06:39):
maybe they'll throw me out of the country for saying
that I dare I'm an anti Semite shovel savior, anti
semag crap for some little gutlass clown. Because number one,
number one, the people running in Israel, they're not Semites,

(07:03):
Semites of people from the Mesopotavia region. These are all
Eastern European Jews people. Where's Netnyahu's real name? Mr? Lakowski,
Oh Bengorian. Oh you made that name up, Bengorian Green.

(07:23):
These are Eastern Europeans. They're not Semites. Number two, you're
against the massive slaughter and starvation of people. Oh not
my language, United Nations. Well on one after another, right
in front of everybody's eyes, and you're saying, by definition, oh,

(07:45):
I forgot Donald Trump's little arrogant son in law boys
Jay Kushna. Oh that's very quote valuable waterfront property.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Oh that was only a year ago. Oh yeah, we
had turned into the riviera.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
That's right. Yeah, that was the amazing thing Trump coming
out with that. And as I talked about earlier, you know,
they have put a you know, the Defense Minister of
Israel has said no humanitarian aid whatsoever. You got children
who are starving, and they're going to starve them to death,
so that Trump can what set up a casino there?
You know that is that what they're going to do
is real estate development project.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Where is the anger of people? Oh, by the way,
they had that again, you can't make this crap up.
But everything's turned to crap, so you can make it
up about how Bernie sand is in that Cortez thing,
how they're enlightening the Democratic people. Yeah right, these are

(08:46):
the two jerks that you could look to on Bernie Sands.
They had a big rally, these big rallies he's having,
and the people put up the flags free Palestine. They
got thrown out, and you're Bernie Sanders came out and said,
I hate this line.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
You could shove it up your you know what is
reel has the right to defend itself.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
How many times have they repeated that propaganda line of crap? Oh,
Israel bombing the hell out of Syria. Now you gotta
stop them. They can't come here our borders. Oh, your
violation of ceasefire agreement in Lebanon, bombing the hell out
of Lebanon. We can bomb anybody we want and shove

(09:35):
your chosen people line up your you know what. Oh,
I'm just a guinea from the Bronx. You're a chosen people.
I'm just a piece of scum. Oh No, let's listen
to Naomi Wolf, a Jewish Woman's.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
That's a lot of bologny. This chosen people.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
God chooses people by the moralogy and how they live
in the spirit of God has nothing to do with
a religion.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Got it.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well, yeah, God chose to take them out of the
land because of immorality. He'll and he could choose to
put them back in if he wishes, But it's not
they don't. They want the fruit of this without having
the root of it, which is God. But you know,
you mentioned earlier that criticizing as we've seen now people
being snatched off the street, and there's a smear campaign

(10:29):
that happens in the conservative media to try to justify
Trump snatching people off the street because they wrote an
op ed piece, or snatching them off the street because
they were exercising free speech on the college campuses. And
you know, and when I look at the obscene amounts
of money that are being given to Columbia University four
hundred million, and the even more obscene amount of money

(10:51):
nine billion dollars being given to Harvard. But they they're
going to keep giving them that money as long as
they don't criticize a foreign entity. And that's the issue here.
But it's also the issue that when people are here legally,
this last guy they pulled off. I talked about this yesterday.
He was on his way to an interview for citizenship.

(11:12):
He'd been here for ten years, and you don't get
that interview unless you have a clean record and so forth.
And he was here legally. The people who are here
legally have a right to speak, just like Americans do.
They have a right to do process. And yet when
we see Trump doing this to everybody, they immediately tar
and feather them as terrorists, as violence and all the
rest of the stuff. And that's not true. But what's

(11:34):
really frightening, and you alluded to it, is the fact
that Trump has said to this guy in El Salvador,
you're going to need to build some more prisons because
we're going to send some American citizens there. What do
you think about that? It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
I know, yeah, I'll be on the list.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, I know, me too. Yeah. Well, it goes back
to his Alien Enemies Act, which he's deported these gang
members with. And I'm all for deporting the gang members
MS thirteen and you know, the trendy guys at Trendy
Aragua whatever they call him. I'm all for deporting those
types of people. But we need to have some due

(12:10):
process if they're going to be sent into an extremely
harsh environment there in those prisons. It is more than
just deporting somebody who's here illegally. And the Trump administration
even said that they made a mistake on it. But
now they're talking out of both sides of their mouth.
They say, well, you know, we had him on a
watch list. It's like I began at info Wars with
a story about a guy who has put on a

(12:31):
no fly list, wrongfully put on a no fly list.
He doesn't know how he got on. They wouldn't tell him.
This is a star chamber process that was happening in
twenty twelve. He was vetted by the TSA, he was
vetted by the FBI. He had a firearms license. He
was flying on a military plane to visit his wife
who was in Japan working for the military. And he

(12:54):
gets to Hawaii and as that intermediate flight is about
to take off again for Japan, leg some guys come
on and pull him off and say you can't fly,
you're on a no fly list. And he's stuck in Hawaii.
He can't fly, and he can't get any information from
anybody about how he got in there. That kind of
star chamber process is not what we want to have
in this country. And you know the problem is is

(13:15):
that Trump is taking this Alien Enemies Act, which is
part of the Alien and Sedition Act. He's accusing CBS
and other news media of being treason this which is
basically sedition. And so what he's doing is he's taking
the old Alien Seditions Act, which Jefferson and Madison hated,
and he's starting to apply that in the twenty first century.

(13:36):
And he wants to apply it to American citizens, not
just to people are here for foreign entities, foreign citizens.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
No, the guy is a three months he's an office
fit three months. And look at what he's done in
three months.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
It's a wrecking ball, isn't he.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, he's an arrogant, arrogant, narcissist guy. And the story,
you know, I had lunch, I told you I lunched
with his brother, Robin. Yeah, back in twenty seventeen, and
the brother told me that the father, when he died,

(14:17):
left the family over half a billion dollars worth of
real estate.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
This Abigail Disney, Walt Disney's grand niece or something. She
wrote an article in a Guardian. I read it and
she wrote about Trump basically, what a spoiled boy he is.
He inherited everything.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
She would know about that.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Right, Yeah, but she fights her some good things, and
you know I applored her on that end, you know,
not everything, but who does everything everybody likes, you know.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
But anyway, and that's all again, I tell the story.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I'm the the same age as Trump, seventy eight when
I was a young wrote it my Zizzy book, which,
by the way, if everything I've written is my favorite,
gave honey Boys.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, I found the trailer online, Gerald and I played
that on Monday, and I played a little bit of
an interview with the guy who did the movie. He
was at a film festival and he was talking about
when he talked to you and how you were reluctant
to have him do it. It was very interesting.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
And anyway, I write about how I grew up in
the Bronx, born in the Bronx. If you're from the Bronx,
man save it. It's a different trip. And I'm born
right after the war. The energies at the height, America
is at the top. They couldn't control me. They used

(15:50):
to tell me. They used to tie me to the
crib with nylon stockings because I'm out the window and
they have my mother and father rested now for doing that. Anyway,
I ran away from kindergarten across the Boston Post Road
in the Bronx at four and a half years old.
They hated every day of school. They used to threaten
me and my brothers. We had enough for your crap.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
You go into military school. That was the threat we.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Used to get.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I write about in the book how they took us
to botanical gardens, which we thought was the military school.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
They had these big things and they okay, get out
of We'll be good.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Trump was so arrogant they sent him to military school. Now,
imagine being a teenager, a young kid, a man talking
about girls, cars, sports. You know my mother, Wow, everybody
loved Danton Marie's. She was the best cook of everybody.
I'm gonna eat this crappy food in military school. Get

(16:49):
dressed up in military drag. Time to get up, time
to go to bed, do this, do that. I'm not
gonna I I'll be good. I'll be good. Trump was
so out of his mind, narcissistic. They sent him to
military school. It's about thirty minutes south to me over here.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
What the hell is the name of the place?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Not Gardner one wall, one Wall, New York, in the middle.
We're talking in the nineteen sixties, right, yeah, the middle
of nowhere. That's how arrogant and narcissistic.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
He yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Well, you know, it's interesting
you talked about how they're going to make sure that
you always mentioned how the bigs are going to get
their special treatment. Well, you know, Trump pulled back and
he said, well, I want you guys to soak the rich.
Now you know that's not going to happen. But that
was the one time that we saw Sean Hannity come
out and really got his hackles up. He says, it

(17:50):
seems to go against everything that Donald Trump is ever
believed in. It's pretty unbelievable to me, to be honest.
Finally complaining about taxes, why because it's kind of you
always hear this nimby stuff, you know, not in my backyard. Well,
you know, for Sean Hannity, it was like, not in
my back pocket. Yeah, I don't want to have to
pay that stuff. And out of the woodwork, you got
all these Republicans out there saying don't raise taxes, don't

(18:11):
raise taxes, when for the last couple of weeks they've
been Thomas, no, raise taxes. It's good for us, it'll
it'll help you to grow. You know. We got Bennie
Johnson saying, well, you know this may you may be
losing money in the stock market because of Trump's volatility
and and decision and all the rest of the stuff.
But hey, it's a growing experience. It's going to build
character to lose your money in the stock market. It's like,
give me a break. And these people will cheer anything,

(18:33):
won't they.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Again, Sean Hannity, look at that little Look at that
How could you be so dump to swallow crap coming
out of that clown's mount Yeah, and what look at
the money that he's worth.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Oh yeah, look what they pay these that's right.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
And again you were talking about that guy when you
were on Info Wars, and you know what the TSA
did to them. Yeah, it's like that, from from your
city local government all the way up to the top.
The power that these people in bureaucraps have grit taken,
the laws, the restrictions they put on you.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, it is disgusting. I talked to this this week
about a case in Hawaii, I think it was on
Reason and this guy, you know, bought a house from
the and he had a permit for it. They were
in the middle of doing a remodeling and the bureaucrats,
they're the local bureaucrats, put out they changed their their
accounting system, their their tracking system, they computerized it, and

(19:35):
they said, well, we're going to You're going to have
you know, a certain amount of time, like a month
or two to reap your permits, and if you don't,
they're going to expire. Well he didn't know that, and
so they started giving him grief and he said, well,
wait a minute, and I had this and we checked
this all before I bought the house. And so then
finally they come back and go, oh, no, you didn't
get the final inspection. When this house is built forty
seven years ago. It's like, what are you talking about?

(19:58):
And so they put him through all this grief. They're
going to tear his house and everything. He wins in
court after a long fight, and they're still coming after him.
Because these people are going to continue to come after him.
They're gonna find one thing or the other after him.
They're never going to leave him alone, especially because he
beat them in court.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
That's what I'm saying is everywhere. Yeah, it's not only
at the federal government. This country's gone down to crap.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
It's finished. It's done.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Look at the people the way they dress. As I said,
the Wringling Remember when we were young guys, Dy had
the Wringling Brothers in Bottom and Bailey Circus.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
They went out of business.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
You don't have to step right up, step right up
state the fat man, see the.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Tattooed lady, see the lady with the beard.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
You have to step right up th'round the street all
over the place.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
I gotta tell you Gerald. When I was in college,
I was in bands, right, I played bands, and we
had a New Year's Eve gig with a retired circus
freaks home in Sarasota. Okay, the strangest things ever, uh play.
We played their New Year's Eve party, and uh, I'll
never forget that. They wanted waltzes from us. We were

(21:10):
not a waltz ban but we put together uh trombone player.
I was playing keyboards, and so we put together the
Blue Daniel Waltz and that was when we got everybody
to dance. It's really that so great. You talk about
circus freaks. I can't stop but think about Ringling Brothers
there in Sarasota. Yeah, I mean it now it's everywhere. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
The way the people dress, I've grown men were of
baseball crabs.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Grow the hell up? What do you look like? Oh?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
And the chicks look so hot with their baseball caps
with the hat with a hip coming out the back.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah. When I have pictures of my ants, and.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
How gorgeous stay dressed, how dignified the people? Oh yeah,
allus gone down. It's the end of it without a renaissance.
To me, it's all over. Facts don't mean anything. The
renaissance follow the black plague. They're killing people, were killing themselves,
the filthy sanitation. But you can't do it without the dough.

(22:11):
The Beniceese made it happen. We need a renaissance.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
We have to again.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
You're a musician. Look what the geeks did too music?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, and look what the geeks look like. You want
to look like a sucker boy, No, I want to
look like a peach ei.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
How about a cook?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Look at these dead in your face arrogant pieces of crap.
The geeks, as I said, they got it wrong. In
the King's James Bible, they say the meek shall inherit
the earth. The geeks have inherited the earth. Yeah, they
brought down the level of this country to the low

(22:54):
level of who they are.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Hey, is it.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Artificially intelligence? So much better than natural intelligence? Why do
you need artificial flavors, artificial colors, artificial intelligence?

Speaker 3 (23:10):
All right?

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's about It's about surveillance and control,
I think, is really what that's ultimately about. Of course,
there's gonna be a lot of money in that. I
was talking earlier about how we've got we just they
just Wall Street Journal as well as it was Forbes
that started it. Uh. They looked at the claims that

(23:31):
are being made by the guy that runs Figure Robots,
and uh, and they're basically a lot of bs. We
have so much hype in all this stuff. And you
talked about dot Com two point zero and a lot
of this stuff has been hyped to the extreme. He
was saying that he had robots in the BMW automobile
factory in South Carolina that were working, you know, throughout

(23:53):
the process and they turns out that he's only got
uh two or three that they're using to sort a
couple of different packages that are there. You know, that's
all that they're doing. And so he was about to
get an amount of money that would give him more
capital than Ford Motor Company. And so it's a tremendous
amount of hype that they put, expectations that they put,
and a lot of this stuff, like you know, some

(24:16):
of these ev companies was based on hype and even
fraud in terms of where they were going. What do
you think is going to happen to the stock market now,
we've had a lot of uncertainty because of this tariff thing.
We've also got issues with the tech companies being overbought,
as you talked about, you know, dot com bust two
point zero, with artificial intelligence? What do you see happening

(24:39):
with the economy and with gold? Has gold maxed out
or is it going to keep running as long as
there is this kind of uncertainty in chaos.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
It's going to keep running as long as there's this
uncertainty in chaos.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
And before we was talking.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
About nuclear annihilation, when Trump started talking about having a
negotiation with Iran, we said, we wrote in the Trench Journal,
this is a fraud. They have absolutely no intention of
making peace with Iran.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
I began the.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Conversation about talking about Iran, and they taught us to hate.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
It all our lives.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
And everybody get this in your head. These are the Persians.
You're very advanced people, and particularly scientifically, technologically and militarily.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
These are not dumb people.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
They've been around a long time, very advanced in a
lot of ways. There's a country ninety one million people
ninety one million verse seven million Jewish people in Israel
who's gonna win, and they'll flattened, flattened, blowout Israel to
nothing in a blink of an eye. Now Trump is

(25:52):
making this deal with this guy wi golf A. I
can't say there's a jerk off wit Gough whatever.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
You know, a real estate guy, a real estate guy.
Of course you would make him your ambassador because it's
all about real estate, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
And again another Zionist doing the deal. And then he
comes out and says, well, we're not going to pressure
Iran to get rid of all they're nuclear reduction.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
And then he did it like that.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Why isn't Iran allowed to have nuclear power planets or
nuclear development, that's right. But Israel is allowed to have
nuclear bombs, that's right.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
I forgot they had a chosen people. Well, how stupid of.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
The guard Goldsmith said, yea, they're intentionally blurring the muddying
the water and blurring the lines by just talking about
nuclear sites and everybody go, oh, well, it's nuclear bomb
sites and it's nuclear energy sites. I guess they're not
allowed to do that. We're gonna change everything over to
nuclear energy and it's gonna be run by our technocrats
over here. But they're not allowed to have nuclear energy there.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Right, No, Then, going back to Trump, he's the one
that killed the deal when there was the nuclear agreement
that was signed under Obama and they had the nuclear
inspectors going to the Iranian plants continually showing that they
were not making nuclear bombs.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
And Trump killed that deal. What back in twenty eighteen?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Mm hm.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Trump is totally pro zionist. Oh so is Joe Biden.
He called himself a Zionist. And Zionism has nothing to
do with religion.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
It's a political movement, right right, Yeah, there's anti zionist Jews,
just like there's a lot of antisionist Christians. And I
was talking about that earlier as well.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, yeah, oh the Rabbis hate a lot of robberies,
can't stand as Zionists made up thing.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah it was the guy.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Was it Theodore or Theodore herzel M, Yeah, eighteen nineties
a guy from like Austria or Hungary. Is somebody made
up this whole thing, invented And then the Rothschilds and
all the other ones supported her, gave him all the money.
As I said, you can't do anything without money. Look
at APAC runs the country when it comes to elections.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Look at the money they gave.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
And now that deadhead Stephanick whatever her name is, she's
going to be running for governor of New York.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Oh great, we got one more run to put in.
Another one.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
It's a freak show. Yeah, look at the freaks running
the show. It's in front of everybody's eyes. As I said,
the Ringling Brothers in Bonna and Bailey Circus went out
of business because you don't have to step right up
and see the freaks. Oh you like little Mikey Johnson.
Look at that little nothing of a clown boy. Yeah, yeah,

(28:53):
So going back to Iran. Israel's gonna ramp up this war.
They just came out with this BS line that Trump
stopped net Yahoo from bombing Iran.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Did you see that a couple of days ago?

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah? I saw that. Are you buying that line?

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Total?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
They tell him what to do, They tell him what
to do.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Total bologna.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
But but even though to say that that they're thinking
of bombing Iran, I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
That's why gold price isn't going up like this.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah, and don't forget hey, you will luck to me.
I'm gonna end that you pray war in twenty four
hours Earth I got at the office.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Okay, Yeah, he stopped talking about that, hasn't he?

Speaker 3 (29:40):
How did you get away with this crap?

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
I make a miss call something wrong? Oh my god?
So let he called it wrong.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
I'm a human being. I can't get everything right all
the time. Right, right, But now look at my track record.
But I'm not lying to you in front of you. Arrives,
and I want you to remember this now that I'm elected,
that Ukraine war is going to end before I get
into office.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
M a fat mouth going on. So here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Europe writing about the trench journals, pumping more and more
money into the Ukraine War. Kyle Hitler's back in Germany
with this guy Mertz building up the military and in
warning his government, a former Blackrock guy Blackrock, we got

(30:44):
to watch those Russians.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
They're going to try to invade Europe.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
They're selling the Domino theory that they sold during the
Vietnam War and that if we don't stop those Russians.
This is coming out of the mouth of the Germans.
They're building their defense budget. What a trillion dollars.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Oh, we're gonna put money into infrastructure too.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Wait a minute, you're in recession for two years. You're
going into your third year recession. Third largest economy in
the world and the largest in Europe, and now you're
going into a trillion dollars worth of debt to build
up your defense. That's right, we got to stop them Russians.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Hey, wait a minute. You killed.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Over twenty five million in World War two Operation Barbarossa,
and you're talking about you have to stop the Russians.
World War IREI has begun. There's going to be a
false flag event or something that makes it official. This

(31:51):
is why goal prices are going up that plus look
at two of our top trends. Again, I'm at this
forty five years effort. Did I we come out with
a top trend wild card? Mm hmmm because of the
Trump card. M nothing like this in my lifetime.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, that's right, that's right. Totally unpredictable what he's going
to do from one hour to the next. You know,
he's you look at this TARF stuff. I was just
talking about that changing his position. You know, within twenty
four hours. We've got two different takes on this stuff.
But you know, when you go back and you look
at the rearmament of Europe, it seems to me like
this is you know, I think these guys are selected.

(32:34):
I think they intentionally put Trump in and then took
him out and put Biden in, and then put him
back in again. And I think he's there as an
agent of chaos, and I think he's there to push
into this world war. He was a hero to a
lot of people were saying, well, look he's he's complaining
about Europe not carrying their weight in NATO, and so
we might just get out of NATO. Oh, he had

(32:56):
no intention of getting out of NATO. I think what
he was just doing is just to tell them that
they've got to spend more money. And that's a constant,
recurring theme now in his second term. You got to
rearm and as we look at Volkswagen and these other
car companies that can't compete with China on evs and
they can't economically really manufacture anything because they've put restrictions

(33:18):
on their energy usage. Now they're moving into you know,
Volkswagen and these other companies that are now moving into
making military equipment. So it is a huge rearmament and
it's a huge repositioning. This is something that's been sold
by Trump all the way through.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Again, think of the stupidity of this.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
You're building bombs, rockets, planes, ships, whatever. This is World
War three, Grow up, whyt to use bow and arrows?

Speaker 3 (33:49):
All right, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Going to be where it's going to be new millennium warfare.
All this crap you're doing is totally worthless junk. It's
going to be nuclear annihilation and a blink of an eye.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah. But meanwhile they're putting on a trillion dollars hit,
a trillion dollars on the defense budget for the first time,
and you don't see any of You don't see Elon Musk,
who is military industrial contractor himself. You don't see him
looking at the Pentagon spending for efficiency or waste at all,
do you No? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
And look at the little clown boy that's our secretary
of Defense, a little arrogant nothing of a jerk, one
after another, one after could you get dumber, stupid or loser?

Speaker 3 (34:38):
And Marco Rubio.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's right, a.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Little nothing of a boy. Yeah, it's a freak show.
Step right up, step right up in a country near you?
I little cats Macron over there, a little nothing of
a bo if he is it all?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Starmer over there in the UK.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
And who was before him the best cartoonist in the world.
Could not have come up with a freaky lookal clown
figure that Boris Johnson.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
He really leaned into that cartoon, looked at't he? I
always called him Bojo, you know, bor Sence and Bojo
the clown.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Again, it's one jerk after another running a country near you.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, I agree? What about what is happening in the
last twenty four hours We had Powell come out and
say that he's going to you know, he's not going
to pay attention to Trump. He got a lot of
applause when he said that. He said that as he
was speaking to the group, he says, I'm not going
to bout any political pressure from Trump. Got a lot

(35:55):
of applause. Well, that set Trump off, and he said,
uh uh, he's playing politics and if I tell him
to leave, he's going to leave. What do you think
is going to happen? And what's the impact? You know, Trump,
certainly with all of the uncertainty, is wrecking the markets.
And we've talked about whether or not you know what
the Federal Reserve is going to do, because they can
wreck things or you know, create inflation with their quantitative

(36:17):
easing or interest rates or whatever. So what do you
think is going to play out with this competition between
Powell and Trump? What do you think they're going to
What do you think the Fed's going to do?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
We've been writing about it in the Trends Journal now
since Trump got Before Trump got elected, m we said
that he's going to do everything he can to lower
interest rates and juice up the economy if there's any
kind of danger of it going down or the market's
going down.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
And we said.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
He's done it before and we'll do it again. Let's
go back to December two thoy and eighteen. The dull
had its worst December since a Great Depression nineteen thirty one.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
What did Trump do?

Speaker 2 (37:07):
He pushed Powell to lower interest rates, which Powell did
in January twenty nineteen. And it's used to markets. Well,
remember the repo crisis. We'll forget about that. Yeah, Powell
is nothing more than a little nothing of a boy.

(37:28):
As George Collins said, it's one big club and you
ain't in it. Who was the FED head that became
the Treasury secretary?

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Jannet Yelling?

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Remember yeah, yeah, did mushrooms in China. It couldn't stop
bowing you.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
As we'd say, miss Facia brut the.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
A clown that was the fedhead becomes the Treasury secretary.
All right, it's the same club. Powell do what he's
told to do. He's a gutless, little nothing of a boy.
And Trump will lower interest rates for another reason, and

(38:12):
selling his his tariff deal. They wanted devalue the dollar
so that American products are cheaper to buy, just like
China did. We said China was going to do it.
And before you talked about Volkswagen and these other companies

(38:32):
whose car sales are going way down. There is the Volkswagen,
the BMW's.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
The Chevrolet.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Isn't the Fords, the General motors that had great, great
years in China. When Bill Clinton brought China into the
World Trade Organization and all these Western country companies wanted
cheap labor, they went over to China and gave China
all the high tech and heavy industry technology.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
They never had.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
And now twenty five years later they got it all. Yeah,
and you got to put this stuff into perspective. As
trend forecasters, you make connections between different fields. All things
are connected, like the blood which unites us, all said
Chief Seattle. But I think he was wrong with that
because we're not connected at all. But anyway, go back

(39:33):
to two thousand, ten percent of Chinese eighteen year olds
went to college. Now nearly seventy percent.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
This is a.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Country one point four billion people. They're very smart. America
is dumbing down in front of your eyes.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Oh yeah, we.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Got three hundred and forty seven million Turndred forty five million,
Turndired forty five million against one point four billion that
are very advanced, technologically, high tech and heavy industry.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Goes back to AI.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
All there's gonna be a dot com bust because of
all the overinvestment in the first AI companies that came out.
Trends are born, they grow, they mature, reach old age,
and die. The AI trend was only born in twenty
twenty two, and everybody invested in these IPOs and these
IPO wannabes and the new tech. Oh no, we don't

(40:32):
need these big chips. No, it doesn't cost us one
hundred million dollars. Only cost US six million dollars to
do what you did with the chat. We could outdo you.
This is just the beginning. They're going to out do
Germany was one of at the height of engineering an

(40:56):
advancement for decades because of the bureaucracy. I can't stand
going back to Italy because of the bureaucracy. It's one
of the worst in the world. I got friends that
live there. They complain all the time. The bureaucracy is
going back to what you said about that guy that

(41:16):
got the TSA, what they did to him. Yeah, yeah,
it's gone going on all throughout the Western world.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Well, let me ask you. You know, when we go back
to interest rates and the Powell and all the rest
of the stuff. And as you point out, we know
that Trump wants to get the interest rates lowered, lets
him helps him with the interest on the debt which
is getting very significant. And yet when you look at
people's trust and the dollar, when we saw him reverse

(41:47):
very quickly as the stock Parker was crashing for two
days in a row. That first day when it was crashing,
he came out and essentially alluded to the fact that
it was bonds. Other people said that it was Japan
that was dumping the bonds. If he lowers the ter rates,
if he devalues a dollar, that makes it harder for
him to sell bonds. So what's the follow up with that?
I've suggested that perhaps this whole stable coin stuff, there's

(42:12):
an opportunity for them to get the stable coin to
buy their bonds when other countries don't want to buy
it and other investors don't want to buy it, and
then if they can move it over to that that
also gives them all the functionality of CBDC or digital currency.
What do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (42:27):
I think you're one hundred percent right, And by the way,
we'll go back to that. But also the deeper the
dollar fall again. You go back to your trend's journal,
the death of the dollar. We've been saying this is
going to happen. The world has had enough of America's
economic and geopolitical hegemony.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Yeah, they had it.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Going back, the lower the dollar goes, the higher goal
prices spike.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Gold is dollar based, so now it.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Becomes cheaper for other countries to buy cold because their.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Currencies have gone up.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
So going back to what you said about cbd Absolutely,
they'll invent one. The Trump team will capitalize on it,
and we're doing away with the dollar. We're coming out
with a new currency, a digital currency, will know every
penny you spent, what you spent it on. We get
all our tax money from you. And my family's very

(43:27):
heavily invested in this coin, that coin, this thing, that thing,
and we're going to make more billions of dollars.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I agree, they're going to definitely go CBDC. There's no
question the world is going to go into it. China
is already there.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah yeah, yeah, and Europe is not even making any
bones about it. They're still calling it a CBDC. I
think what will happen here is that Trump will have
to do it. You know, people around Trump will do
it stealthily. They'll also do it in a way in
which they make money. I think.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Is That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, that person did make money.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Don't you think that his family knew when he said
what he was going to do and his friends to
pump the market up before the market was skyrocketed. Oh yeah,
friends or anybody knew, Hey, listen, you might want to
buy the market tomorrow, because.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
He he even said that, even said that now's a
good time to buy. You know, you know, I said, Okay,
even if that wasn't knowing Trump, I think that was
a signal to sell. But even you know, if he
wasn't intentionally trying to send a signal to people, when
he takes all of this power to himself to be
able to put the tariffs on, take the terariffs offs

(44:41):
at the rates arbitral of this, and that that leaves
him open even if he was trying to honestly do that.
Accruing all that power to himself puts him in that
position where, of course they're going to investigate him. His
political enemies are going to investigate him for rigging the markets.
It's just a given. With him taking all of that power.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
He'll do whatever he wants.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
And again, get the reality is we're talking this guy's
been there for only three months.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
It's gonna be a long time, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Oh my god, are you kidding? And again, this guy's
power hungry as could be. Yeah, yeah, and so this
is I'm telling you, that's why I would not have
thought gold prices would have spiked the way they have.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
But when you look at it, if he's able to
lower the rates, you know, putting pressure on Powell, and
Powell wants to you know, not fight him, or if
they devalue the dollar or whatever, all of that stuff
is going to help gold, every bit of it. Ye. Yeah,
it's gonna really shoot it through the roof. Yeah. I've
got a lot of people who have been saying they
think this is gold is getting ready to go hyperbolic.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yeah, it may well.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
It may well, And you could easily see thirty five
hundred dollars ounce gold and again.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Oh it's not are now.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah we remember remember the BS line, We're going to
go into Fort Knox.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Yeah, they stopped talking about that, didn't they. Yeah, don't
draw any more attention to gold. I guess, yeah, right,
And we wouldn't know anyway if they went in there.
I mean, it'd be like al Capone's vault, right, if
they walked in and there was nothing there that'd come
up with an explanation. If they walk in and we
see some gold stuff, we don't know if it was
painted or not, I mean gold. There was a picture

(46:28):
I saw Gerald of how Trump has changed the Oval Office.
You know, we all has all these press conferences and everything,
and he's got his gold guy that makes everything gold.
In mar Lago, King Midas came in and so you
got He's painting everything with gold leaf all through the
Oval Office and everything. I mean, he loves gold. He

(46:50):
talks about where we're going to have a golden Age. Well,
I guess maybe that was the tip that you should
buy gold. I don't know, but he loves gold everywhere,
doesn't he. Except we see in Fort n Oox. We
wouldn't know if that was his gold guy that just
went in there and painted some bricks. How would we
know the difference with it? Right?

Speaker 2 (47:08):
You know, before he went on the edge said hey,
how you doing, I said, I'm doing all right, I
have to tell you. You know, the magazine comes out every Tuesday.
This past Tuesday was so depressed. I got to write
about this and read about this stuff every day. Yeah,
the massacre going on in Sudan, in Gaza, the death

(47:33):
of people, the slaughter of people, starvation of people. You
mentioned that clown Cats, the defense guy in Israel. What
do you say he's going to cut off full humanitarian aid?

Speaker 1 (47:46):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yeah, could you imagine let's reverse this. Let's suppose his
name was in Cats and we'll make up some Arab
name for him. These were Jewish people in Gaza. Yeah,
suppose these were Jewish people in Gaza. That would be

(48:09):
and they're not Palestinians. The outrage that would be there.
They would call this holocaust two point zero. But they're
only Palestinians. Their lives don't matter. Yeah, I'm heartbroken. I
am so heartbroken to see this. And again, you know,

(48:30):
I launched Occupy Peace well over a decade ago, so
it's not And now we're going into a good Friday.
How where are all these religions that believe in the
Prince of Peace?

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Yeah, well, Zionism is Zionism is really taking over Christianity
here in America. It truly is, and it's not Christian
at all. And and I talked about that the first
part of the program. And you know, when I look
at this, I feel the same way you do. I
have people say to me, you know that the news
is just too dark and too depressing and everything, and

(49:06):
I and it is depressing even more so when you
and I look into it all the time, and as
much of it as we see, it's even more depressing
than what I cover on the show here. And yet
the only thing that I have, I have a hope
that is outside of this life. And that's the key
thing for me. And you know, I really couldn't do
this if I didn't have the hope of Christ. And

(49:27):
I know that the stuff that is happening now it
has you know, we're in a period of time where
there's a battle that's going on and I just see
it as being a part of that battle. And you know,
I know what is going to happen after I die.
I know this life is very short, but I am
absolutely confident. You know, That's what hope is. It's that

(49:50):
word is confident, expectation. That's what I have confident expectation
of what's going to happen. I just know that I'm
in the fight. I look at the disease and the
suffering in this fallen world, and I know that it's
not in my power to change it, but that there
is a purpose ultimately that is going to be made
out of this, in this time of struggle. And we're

(50:12):
just here to to try to show people what is happening.
And we don't know if we're talking to people who
have ears to hear and eyes to see or not,
but we just had we're called to just tell people
what we see. That's what you know, you're trying to
do with with this, I think, and it certainly is
what I'm trying to do.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Well, you see, I believe that we can change it.
I mean, was Trump better than you and me?

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Mm hmmm. Yeah. I think we need to warm people,
you know, whether we can yeah, whether we can change
it or not, we need to warm people about it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah. But again, you know, like this is the other
thing I'm hearing from people.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
I can't say. I'm so depressed with this. I'm tuning out.
Mm hmmm hm, oh great, tune out, yeah great. Let
Hitler take over. Yeah, don't do anything. Don't do anything.
Don't do a damn thing. M you can't do anything.
That's what you believe. Fine, everybody else could do anything. Oh,

(51:12):
we talked about the sucker Bergs, the Musks, the peach Eyes.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
The u, the cook Oh, they could do things you can't.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, you're you're powerless. Everybody out there, you're powerless. That's
what they put into the people's heads because they use
these words celebrities. What's celebrities?

Speaker 3 (51:33):
What you're talking to?

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Celebrities? Oh, officials, dignitaries. Yeah, that's bullshit, crap words. Excuse
the language, b s, crap words about putting people at
a higher level than anybody else, and that we're supposed
to follow them.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
We're still in kindergarten.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yeah, yeah, again we have. I've talked to people hewn
into the pharmacist, and I've told the story on air
my son who was injured with antibotics, and we were
talking to the people there at the pharmacy because they
were asking us why we're buying some of the stuff
that we're buying, and she said, oh wow. I said, yeah,
it's on the warning label, but they don't give you
the black Blox warning label. But she said, oh, that's

(52:20):
stuff on the label. This is the person of the pharmacy.
The labels are so scary, I just don't read them anymore.
And I thought, wow, you know that's the way people
are with news as well. The news is so scary.
I just don't want to know. I want everything to
be nice and happy. I want to pretend that this
stuff doesn't exist. Well, you can pretend that it doesn't exist,
but that's not going to make it go away. It's
only going to get worse, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Again.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
It's Easter time, and I consider myself a warrior for
the Prince of Peace. And when I say warrior, I
mean it because this is one of the covers of
the Trends Journal back in twenty eleven.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah, the Prince of Peace made a whip to drive
the money changes out of the temple.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Yeah that's right, right, right right.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
The same money changes that are running the world today. So,
as I said, where are all the religions that believe
in Christ? And how come they're not out there saying
stop this slaughter of human beings on earth?

Speaker 1 (53:27):
I mean, it's because they're being run by people like
Paula White and Hagey and these you know, these big
name preachers out there who are friends.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Of friends that go to the Catholic Church over here.
They were totally pro Ukrainian war.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. For many of the people who
are pushing this stuff, it's the love of money. Yeah,
I said. For me, the people who are pushing this,
it's their love of money, right, they don't They want
to be a part of the system, just like you're
talking about. They want to be a part of the club.
They can make a lot of money if they are
pushing Ukraine war, they're pushing the Israel war, and so

(54:01):
they push it to the people, and other people are
being led by them, you know, and they're being led
by people who are at the root of all evil.
Money's not evil, it's the love of the money, and
that's what's turning these people.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
I think, well, again, you look at the people listening
to your show.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
In mind, there are.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Enough people that have had enough of this, and if
we united under a banner, a real peace, banner of reality,
we could change this.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
The people.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Look, if Trump wasn't there, let's pretend he's not there,
nobody would want to vote for the Democratic, for the Republicans.
There's nobody there that's a standout, right, And again they're
pumping up this courtesant and Bernie Sanders on the Democratic.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Why are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Look at it, Look at the little jerk show over here.
There are a load of people that are ready for
a new way. And that's what I'm fighting for. I'm
fighting for peace and a new way to bring back
the true American spirit that I grew up with that
made me the man that I am, and the family

(55:08):
a blessed to come from that really gave it to me,
and that's how I grew up.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
You'd be who you want to be. Don't you tell me?
Who would tell me what to do? I agree, that's
the life that I live in. Fact, my father may
rest in peace.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
I get in a fight with him, he said to me,
a little less so, b you think I'm telling you
what I'm telling you because I want you to be
like me.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
I want you to become yourself.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Yeah, that's right. Well, again, it's always great to have
you on Gerald. And if you use a code night, folks,
you can get Trends Journal ten percent off and it
is filled with the wealth of information. It's truly amazing.
As you point out, Gerald, that Wall Street Journal doesn't
even talk about what's going on with the cold. How
can they miss that? I guess you know there's there's

(55:54):
They can hype the vaccines, but they don't want to
tell you about gold. Thank you so much for joining us.
Have a great weekend. Thank you Jared Old and I
thank you everybody. Have a great weekend.
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