December 19, 2025 • 54 mins
David Knight interviews survival expert and author Jack Lawson, JackLawsonBooks.com and JackLawsonBooks.substack.com. Lawson discusses the critical vulnerabilities of modern infrastructure and the urgent need for individual preparedness. Drawing from his extensive background in the Air Force and the Foreign Legion, Lawson provides a sobering look at how geopolitical tensions, cyber warfare, and societal shifts threaten basic necessities like food and water.
Infrastructure & AI Vulnerability:
David Knight and Jack Lawson explore how the increasing complexity of the power grid, coupled with the integration of AI and data centers, creates new failure modes for society.
The "Water First" Strategy:
Lawson explains why he has shifted his priority from food to water, citing the fragility of modern well systems and the ease with which foreign governments can hack into municipal water supplies.
Geopolitical Warning Signs:
The discussion covers the potential for direct European involvement in the Ukraine conflict and how asymmetric warfare, including drone attacks on refineries, could soon reach domestic soil.
Civil Defense Basics:
Lawson emphasizes the "A to Z" of preparation: storing water in bacteria-safe blue barrels, securing essential medicines, and building trusted neighborhood networks.
Lessons from History:
Lawson reflects on his personal experiences with combat and medical miracles, stressing that the ultimate preparation is spiritual and mental grounding.
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Infrastructure & AI Vulnerability:
David Knight and Jack Lawson explore how the increasing complexity of the power grid, coupled with the integration of AI and data centers, creates new failure modes for society.
The "Water First" Strategy:
Lawson explains why he has shifted his priority from food to water, citing the fragility of modern well systems and the ease with which foreign governments can hack into municipal water supplies.
Geopolitical Warning Signs:
The discussion covers the potential for direct European involvement in the Ukraine conflict and how asymmetric warfare, including drone attacks on refineries, could soon reach domestic soil.
Civil Defense Basics:
Lawson emphasizes the "A to Z" of preparation: storing water in bacteria-safe blue barrels, securing essential medicines, and building trusted neighborhood networks.
Lessons from History:
Lawson reflects on his personal experiences with combat and medical miracles, stressing that the ultimate preparation is spiritual and mental grounding.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-real-david-knight-show--5282736/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Jesus scheme.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
All right, welcome back and joining us now is Jack Lawson,
and you can find his books Civil Defense Manual. You
can find that at jacklowsonbooks dot com. He also has
a substack that he puts up very interesting articles. He's
had so much experience and survival type of situations, and
he knows a lot of people who are very well
(00:39):
schooled and who are expert and have lived this, and
so there's a lot of excellent tips in this book.
I wanted to get him on today because I wanted
to talk about the vulnerability that I see in terms
of infrastructure. The very first time I talked to Jack,
we were talking about how vulnerable our infrastructure was, you know,
to an EMP attack or something like that. And that
(01:01):
was a long time ago, and we see all of
these vulnerabilities really manifest, you know, multiplying and interconnected, and
so our entire society, our grid and everything that supports
it is getting more and more complex. And you know,
we see this happening with the AI stuff that is there.
(01:22):
The AI coming in and being inserted into our society
is going to be a whole nother point of possible
failure when we become dependent on that. We're going to
pull that in Jack into the Pentagon. They're very excited
about pulling AI and the Pentagon. I don't know about that.
I don't necessarily think that's a good thing. And so
(01:43):
you have these different types of failure modes. And because
we just had a couple of stories about that that
I didn't get to yet today. But it can fail
in some spectacular ways. But even the buildout of the
data centers and the power that they require is going
to be a challenging thing. Whether it is the green
agenda that's being imposed on people in the EU and
(02:05):
the UK destroying manufacturing and rationing energy making extremely expensive,
or whether it is going to be done because of
AI data centers, because they're going to get their first
crack at any energy and it's going to affect the
rapid buildout is going to affect the rates of energy
as well as the availability. So we got threats coming
(02:28):
from both the left and the right in terms of
the energy infrastructure, and that is such a fundamental part
of our society. We can all remember back to the
rationing that happened with OPEK. Just think when they start
rationing electricity and other things like that, and that can
come from any number of directions, but it also can
come from conflict. We look at what is happening in
(02:50):
Ukraine in Russia war. The two of them are taking
potshots at each other's infrastructure. And it is so incredibly easy,
and you've talked about this many times, Jack, So incredibly
easy to take out this complicated distributed infrastructure and it
can be very time consuming to get it back if
they take out the right things.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Can it Yes, it can't. David Died first like to
say this, I have a Christian mentor now I'm just
trying to get the heathen out of myself.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But he's we all are.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Retired army colonel, very very articulate and intelligent guy. He
sent me a picture from the Hubble telescope of our
galaxy and he put an arrow to a little spot
and I think it was in the Oriyan arm and
he put a little arrow to it and said us,
(03:52):
and I look at this thing. I put it at
the top of my to do list that I look
at every day. I've got to run it out eight
weeks so I know what's going on. And I was
just blown away by it. The Bible I'm going on
seventy nine. Am I afraid. No, I'm not afraid. I
(04:14):
used to think I was lucky, you know, and things
that have happened in my life, I shouldn't be talking
to you. I mean, it's just that I'm not trying
to portray myself as mister danger action guy or anything
like that. But the point being this, issues I've had
with my daughter, issues I've had in combat. I shouldn't
(04:42):
be here. My daughter wouldn't be here if, in my opinion,
it wasn't divine intervention. And I think people have to
know this is the first year I'm looking at Christmas differently.
It's not decorations. It's not always for the kids. Uh,
it's uh, it's it's a good feeling, and it's it's
(05:07):
the birth of somebody I believe is the savior of mankind.
Unfortunately we live as prisoners in physical under physical laws
that I don't think apply, and the rest of the universe.
(05:28):
And uh, people people look at this as things can
happen that are outside of this dimension. Uh, you know,
I think they're then in the you know, like mass prayer.
I believe it has a basis. But anyway, going back
(05:49):
to let me, let me just exe the ultimately, the.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Ultimate preparation, right is relief that that event that's going
to happen to each and every one of us, And
that's really what we need to prepare for first and foremost,
I think, and you're absolutely right about that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah. In this realm food and water. I used to
put food first. They're changing it around now to put
water in food because the water situation is that's moved
up the ladder. I don't think people realize we don't
have the wells that we used to have. We do
open wells. We have a structure that's so complex and
(06:32):
so dangerous and so fragile, and foreign governments that don't
like us have been spent thirty five years or more
practicing hacking into our systems. And now will that happen
(06:52):
for for any reason? I think will happen if we
align ourselves in some of these ongoing wars.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Agree, We've already aligned ourselves in the Middle East, so
that makes a bunch of enemies. But I think that
people have got to look at one thing for Christmas.
If they're going to get anything, get some blue barrels.
A couple of them. And fill them full of water.
I have an article for free on my my Civil
(07:25):
Defense website to tell people how to out of store
water and store it safely to keep it back terry
from growing in it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah. Yeah, because as we think about Darling, you know,
you thought he saw back terry growing into the water.
He has spontaneous generation. It's life coming out of water.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
It's like, well, no, water is a condition that's necessary
for life, but it doesn't create life. But yeah, you
can wind up with a lot of living things in
your water. You properly, can't you. It's oh, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I've had I've consumed water when it was in Africa
that looked great until we found uh the black guys
with me drank a couple of canteenfuls and they'd been
used to those water sources. I put purifying tableists in
mine and I had a meebeg dysentery within twenty four hours.
And it looked the water looks so good until we
(08:19):
pulled the float cover up. It was in the middle
of a Mozambique and it was a cattle watering trough
with windmill. We pulled the float cover up and there
was a dead monkey under there, full of maggots, and uh,
the black guys were peachy. They were just all happy
and everything. I wasn't the next day. I can guarantee
you I had it for a couple of months and
(08:40):
finally had doctor and parachute going to going through parachute
school with me. He said, I get to care for it,
and I'll spury the ghastly detail. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, no more dysentery after that.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, I'll tell you what people did want to be
around me.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
But so important things don't don't don't have dead monkeys
in your water. That's important safety.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Say, well, you know, and this is true of water
you see in a beer commercial going down the Rocky Mountain,
uh stream. You know it can look good, but it's
it's unbelievable. I'll say this, even city water. Uh. It's
you know, trying to talk to these guys that run
these places, uh and getting information from them. They don't
(09:33):
want to say anything. But the bottom line is if
you're depending on your tap water, uh, you can expect
it to be shut off at some point, and you.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Can also expect that maybe there's not a dead monkey,
but there might be aborted babies in it, right, That's
what I was talking about earlier.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You know that there wasn't aware of that until I
watched you say about that.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, I mean you think about I mean, well, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Can't get one thing about this abortion. What happened to birth? Can?
I know? I don't understand why this is the means
of keeping from you know, a woman getting rid of
a baby is birth control? That's a spirit to me, Yes,
(10:17):
that's there, And I think it's wrong, and I think
it's actually evil. I agree, people do this unless it's
a medical emergency, and that would have to be really
defined properly.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Well, it's taking a long time for us to get
the right to really realize what it truly is and
what it's about. And they've done a very good job
of keeping people in the dark about it, and so
you know, I it took a very long time. I remember,
you know, when I was younger and Christians all around me,
none of them really got it. I mean, the Catholics
(10:52):
understood it much earlier, for whatever reason. It took a
much longer time for most of the Protestants come around
and really realized what was really going on. Here started
posing it, so yeah, they can people pretty easily.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
My wife and I are third child. We'd actually paid
for an abortion. We were living in Minnesota. Then we
went to Minnesota, Minneapolis. It was going to happen. At
six o'clock in the morning, we went out for supper.
She could eat until twelve o'clock and we sat there
and we looked at each other and we both started crying,
(11:26):
and we said, you know something, We're going to take
what comes from this. We'll just take it as that's
the way. That's what we got, and we got a
beautiful daughter out of it. My god. She was the
first place fitness finalist in the United States against four
thousand girls in Los Angeles. And she's a wonderful assault
(11:50):
of the Earth girl. She's very She got her kids
in a Christian school. She pulled them out of the
school system where she lives because of the the Dei
and Wolke stuff that's in there, and it's out of control. So,
you know, we took what was given us and it
(12:11):
was a godsend. And I used that word godsend as
one word because that's what we got. It had to
come from there. I can't even begin to tell you
all of the issues I've had. She had another issue
from me. Let me let me tell Let me tell
you listening audience, a little bit about me. The first
(12:33):
thing was, I was in the American Air Force, and
this is the crazy guy that wanted to go to Vietnam,
and everybody that was going didn't want to go, and
I wanted to go. I went into electronics. I was
guaranteed I could go to Air Commando school, and I
got stuck in a missile squadron in Minnesota. I'm from Minnesota.
(12:55):
I didn't even know there was an Air Force base there,
and I ended up getting advanced to electronics training because
of my electronics aptitude. So I was the new guy
that got stuck sitting on top of the warhead of
the W forty thermonuclear warhead, and I got it radiated
(13:17):
from it. And I'm in the process of determining some
of this. But the daughter I'm talking about, all three
of our kids are great, but the daughter I'm talking
about almost died from a massive hemorrhage. She's one of
(13:37):
five recorded women in the world with two uterii and
she got pregnant in the deformed one and of all places.
She has a software company too. She's going into an
attorney's office and she called me. She said, Dad, she
said something's wrong. She said, I've been bleeding before, but
I'm bleeding a lot. And she lost eight of her
(14:00):
nine blood units. I said, get on nine to one
one right now. So they sent an ambulance over from
the trauma center right next door to where she was
and got her in there. They couldn't save the baby.
They saved her, but of all things, now, tell me
what the odds are? Am I lucky about this? Next
(14:20):
door in that trauma center there was one of the
world's foremost gynecological surgeons giving a lecture to one hundred doctors,
American doctors. He's from Croatia, and they pulled him out
of that lecture, took him in there. Again. He couldn't
save the baby, but baby's four months old or something.
(14:43):
But he spent six hours reconstructing her female organs and
she's got two wonderful, beautiful normal kids. Now, tell me
what the odds are that you would have a gynicle
surgeon like that right next to you. So anyway, that's.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
A providential miracle right there. Yeah, Not only was there
doctor in the house. But he turned out to be
an expert obstetrician. How about that?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, he I wrote a nice letter to him. He
was just a great guy about everything. Am I getting
afraid because I'm seventy nine. No, I've faced deaths so
many times. I'm numb to it. And I mean that
I am numb to it. When I see a catastrophic
situation that I come across, I don't ract like most people.
(15:37):
Racked mechanically, I've seen things that people haven't seen. After
the Air Force, I went into the Foreign Legion in
Africa in a nasty guerrilla war. I was in an
anti terrorist unit and I got my fill of combat
after that. Coming back to you United States is on
(16:01):
one of the largest police boards in the United States
for seven years, and in doing that, I ended up
riding around with policemen all the time. And I have
a great deal of sympathy for policemen. People complain about
this happened, and that happened, and they're cross section of people,
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like as much as they filter out, they're a cross section.
There's good ones and bad ones. A vast majority of
them are good people. So I've had a lot of
experience with that. I'm not going to go into other things.
But the long and short of it is, I'm more
than lucky. And as I told you once before, one
(16:43):
of my friends looked in my car and saw a
Bible and said, laws and you a Bible, And I said, yeah,
I said, I go to a Bible study group. I've
got a combat Veterans group that came out of the
VA that I go to, and I've got another group
of Christian people I go there. I have problems relating.
(17:06):
I'm trying to connect to our Lord and Savior and
God and the Holy Spirit, and I'm working on it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Well, you know that's that's the key thing. You know,
Gratitude is a really really helpful thing for anybody to have.
And so you got the gratitude, but you know, when
you got gratitude and you don't know who you should
be thinking, that's that's you know who you thinkful too?
You know it just past Thanksgiving. It's important to know
who you are thinkful too, and who has put together
(17:38):
those events in your life. And and that's a real
grounding thing. So I'm glad that you're on your way.
We're all on our way. None of us have really
got it all figured out. And so the blessing is
is that you realize that and that's the key, that's
really the key. So yeah, you know you talk aboutferent copsre.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I forget it? Yes, just why I forget it? Merry
Christmas to you and your staff.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Well, thank you, Merry Christmas to you as well. Yeah,
you were talking about riding around with the cops and
how Yeah, they're all it's a mixed bag. And I've
talked many times about Frank Cirpico what he had to say.
He said, you know, when you have any institution, you're
going to have good and bad people in it, and
then you're going to the question is is the institution
(18:28):
going to embrace the bad or is it going to
purge it out. If it embraces it, then it becomes
a corruption throughout the entire institution, which is what he
saw in the police department in New York and what
he spoke out against. But we just had this terrorist
attack over the weekend in Bondi Beach, and I had
an article I didn't get to today, and there was
(18:50):
a woman who was there and she said she got
separated from her three year old and all the shooting
was going on, and she said the police were just there,
they were just standing around, two of them, the whole thing,
and she tried to get one of their guns. She's
lucky that they didn't hurt her, but she tried to
get one of their guns because she's going to go
do something about it. And so we've had a lot
(19:10):
of people say they just diood around, they didn't do anything.
And I've said for the longest time, this is why
you need to have guns. And you know, teachers need
to be armed because you know what happened with that
guy who disarmed the shooter. He didn't have any weapons,
but he and he went after him unarmed, and so
that's heroic. But you don't have that many heroes in life.
(19:31):
But if somebody is coming into your school and shooting people,
and you've got a gun and you know how to
use it defending yourself and defending other people there, that's
not heroic. That's just self survival. And that's the key thing.
That's part of the preparation. You know we need to have.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, well, you know people do thanks for a lot
of reasons. Why, you know, I've got a part in
my book and on my website of people become victims
and it's a it's incredible. Uh, it's it's human nature.
Though even though it is incredible. I I would say
(20:12):
that I was very much trusted and liked by the
main street policeman where I was on this board. They
were all apprehensive about having me in their car at
first because there was a board member.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But there's been movies about that right right along you
know where you're right right along.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Most of them their first instinct is to open the
door and push you out. You know, they watch it,
you know. But they just they got to trust me,
and the word went around and so they had me
in their cars and they liked the fact. You know, Uh,
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they were generally a ninety nine percent of our great guys.
There's there's a like I said, it's just cross section.
As much filtering as they do, they get people in
there maybe shouldn't be in there. But they were great people.
But it absolutely did one thing for me. I wanted
to be a policeman at one time, and I no
longer want to be a policeman. Those guys in a
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combat zone and then go home to their families, it's
a horrible mental trauma.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
For those guys. Yeah, it's really tough.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Group. Actually are one of our groups that I go to,
the Bible studies that we're trying to get some of
these guys in. But politics come into play, you know.
That's the unfortunate part of a lot of this.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Mm hmmm, yeah, politics is always there. Well, you have
the books at Jack Lawson Books. You also have a substack.
Tell us little bit about your substack where people can
find it, and the kinds of articles that you've been
out there. We've reposted some of them.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Well, I go back to one thing. I feel like
an insurance salesman, you know that's talking to somebody's blind
and death. It's critical that people store water and food.
Bottom line, water and food. Second thing is medicines. And
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the third thing is to get together with your neighbors
and get to know your neighbors. And the reason you
want to do that if things go bad, you're going
to have an idea of who you can count on
and who you cannot count on. I have a whole
structure of setting up a neighborhood group like we do.
(22:43):
The long and short of the thing is if things
go really bad, which there's a strong possibility of especially
over this Ukrainian situation. I don't want to bum people
out before Christmas, but the next five months you can
probably expect European Union to go into the Ukraine directly.
(23:08):
I don't know what they're going to go in with,
woke units that are wearing high heels or what. But
the French sent fifteen hundred foreign legionnaires in there, and
I think they're probably all gone. I haven't heard anything
more about it, but I'm not supporting the Russians, but
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I can tell you that they have obliterated almost everything
has been set in against them. I'm sure Putin's a
pretty ruthless guy. One of my friends in my Special
Forces chapter arrested him one time in Berlin and they
(23:52):
let him go because they thought he was a low
level guy. They didn't know he ran all of the
East German KGB and there's.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
A lot of people that are miscalculating about him.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Arthur, Oh, yeah, he's a very very intelligent guy that
knows how to use deception absolutely to his benefit. But
if we go in there, that's when this hacking. If
we get dragged into this thing. There's a couple of
bills in front of Congress to get us out of NATO,
which that should have been done a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
But if we get pressured, the president gets pressured because
of a treaty to put people in there, and we
get directly involved, or even indirectly to a degree, I
think you're going to see hacking of systems, water, who knows,
drone attacks. I mean, look what's going on over in
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the Ukraine. I don't think they're going to have very
many Christmas tree lit over there. Their whole electrical structure
is just not unless I got a match, yeah, burning
a tree figure, that's about all that they're going to
have it. They've they've taken out almost all their electrical Yeah,
when you get down to generators, it's a touchy thing,
(25:10):
you know, to run most systems.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
And they're going there on the other hand as well,
not just Ukraine from Russia, but the Ukrainians are sending
in drones to blow up oil depots and other things
like that, refineries inside of Russia. It's going in both directions,
and it is it's so easy to do now with
the drone warfare. And so we stop and think about this.
You know, if we're going to have if we're going
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to turn the drug war into a hot war and
we're going to start shooting and bombing these different drug cartels.
They've been around now for over fifty years, and they've
gotten a lot of money, they've gotten very ruthless, and
they've got a lot of equipment as well. But they
don't even need to have a lot of equipment. They
could do their own asymmetric warfare. When you look at it,
(25:54):
they could start blowing up our infrastructure if we go
against Venezuela or if we go against Mexican drug carts tels. Uh,
and really if he wants to go against the Fennyl,
that's obviously going to be attacking Mexican cartels and so
that kind of thing could escalate very quickly. If that
were to happen, I would expect all of this, which
I think, you know, putting the troops into cities for
(26:16):
immigration stuff, I think that was really more about moving
the Overton window to put them into cities, which is
something the Pentagon has been talking about doing for a
long time, talked about this under Obama. Even this is
a bipartisan agenda, it happens with Democrats happen as Republicans
got to move the military into the cities. We're going
to be fighting in the city, said Pentagon videos. And
(26:38):
I've played those for people now for over a decade,
and that would be the thing that would kick it off,
and people would be cheering for that. If we've got
drug cartels that start taking out yeah, that's right, that's a.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Double edged sword putting troops in. I don't know how
they're going to rectify this issue with all of these
people in here sucking the financial system dry. It's way
more money than I think anybody's reported. But I look
at these alleged eight billion dollars in Minnesota that just
(27:20):
disappeared of federal funds. My absolute fraud. I come from
a multiracial family, but my sisters and brothers adopted kids
from all over the world. They were kids, they grew
up to become Americans. When you bring somebody from Africa,
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and I've warned people of this that not to bash
the Muslims, but they're Muslim and they don't integrate very well.
They never did over there. A lot of them are Muslims, and.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Especially when you bring them in and large mass.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, yeah, you bring them in with the adult mindset
and the first thing they do is what they did
where they were from. And they want to tell you
all about your country. But the place a left as
a hole in the ground. It's it's absolutely atrocious. I mean,
I've seen these people. I've seen the starvation, I've seen
(28:23):
the killing. It's just there. There's somebody you don't want
in your society. Yet they've how many millions have they
brought into this country. It's out of control.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
And yeah, you were saying that you were in you
were saying you were in Minneapolis. That's now become a
little Mogadishu.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Oh my god. I've talked to people, a friend of mine,
his sons, a homicide detective in Minneapolis and parts of
town they don't even go into with a with a
convoy of police cars. It's just too dangerous. Wow, And
that's that's never been before. The Minneapolis I remember was
(29:07):
pretty calm and uh, you didn't have those types of situations.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And again, if you're getting back to do something, why
not start there?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Would have been the obvious starting place. But they waited
a long time to get involved there, didn't they.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Oh, it's totally out of control. Last time I went
back there, I could not believe it. They were giving
unvetted people all of the Muslims. They're giving a tour
of the airport to try to remove suspicions from them,
the tour of all the secure areas everything. As far
(29:45):
as I'm concerned, everybody up there has pretty much lost
their mind. You know, they are too docile about everything.
They don't want to offend anybody. Yeah, but get yourself
in a group of those people and see how you're
really treated after they get familiar with you. Going back
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to the water the food. People don't realize how fragile
these things are. I've got a lot of articles I
think one hundred and twenty or something like that on
my substack Jacklawson dot jacklosson Books dot substack dot com.
(30:29):
And there's a lot of articles on there that will
tell people how to do some basic preparation. And if
there's one thing I could get across the people of
anything I say today, is to store water and food.
It is critical. It's going to be a madhouse if
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you don't have it, and you're going to be involved.
I believe this that if you don't have a plan
You're going to be a part of someone else's plan,
whether you like it or not. And that part may
be that they're going to kick your door down injure you,
kill you, rape your wife, daughters, whatever. I don't want
(31:12):
to make this sound horrible, but if if you don't
have a means to defend yourself and you don't have
food and water, you're going to be part of that crowd.
The other thing they might be doing, if it gets
bad enough, is having it for supper. Because cannibalism, as
much as people don't think it's it's it's taboo here,
(31:35):
it will resurface. That's the long and short of it.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah. I mean we've seen that with several different movies.
I'm in the one movie about the plane crash, and
that was that the Indies or something, and you know
they're stuck up there and and you know that's what
that was about, you know, but you know the Donner
party or whatever. You know, that's one of the jokes
we used to always do when we go to a
restaurant that ask for our last name and I tell
them Donner, so they would party of five. Yeah, that's us.
(32:04):
We're pretty hungry. Better get us the table.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Oh, it starts off as somebody's dying and says I
want to give the gift of my body to you. Yeah,
you know, and people people will resort to that if
if they're hungry. That's where I draw the line. I
don't know. I suppose living around the world like I've lived,
I've probably had human flesh consumed and didn't know the difference.
(32:30):
But I mean, they they had that poor girl in England,
thirteen years old, they killed her and put her in
uh Kebab's, you know, And that's that's that's where the
that's where these people are out of control. They don't
belong in this country. They're just I don't want to
(32:50):
sound xenophobic, but that's a fact of life. They don't
belong in this country. If you want the third world
in this country, you get used to living the third world.
And I've lived in it. Yeah, I've lived in the
third world. And what I call the fourth world, And.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
What would you call the fourth world?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Well, I call the third world a place that has
maybe gravel or beaten paths. The fourth world doesn't have
a path for.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
They're just there, yeah, yeah, in this natural, unadulterated state right, Yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Well, but we are in a very precarious situation. You know,
this is not hysteria. I have a lot of contacts
people that were in the intelligence community, and they're all
expecting something to happen in the next four or five months.
When I say something happened, I think this Ukrainian thing
(33:55):
is just going to go on. It's almost like nineteen
eighty four you watch that movie, Yeah, and Eurasia and
the rest of the way, they're constantly going out war.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah. Yeah, I've never seen a thing like this in
my lifetime. I've never seen this kind of mass delusion
and insanity. What I think is happening with it, Jack
is you know we about every eighty years, you know,
we have a massive restructuring of society. It's a pattern
that's been pretty well documented. And so we've already got
the economic aspect of the war. Is the next thing
(34:26):
is that Gerald Clinty I have on frequently. He usually says,
you know, when when they lose everything, they take you
to war and they understand the mess that they've made
of their countries. They brought in this massive immigration stuff
and you know, it's a replacement and it's bearing fruit
now and they're green New Deal where they have shut
down people's power and shut down industry and other things
(34:48):
like that. People are getting really really angry about it,
and so they understand that people are catching on that,
people realize that that's the program. So to keep them
from coming after them, as a self preservation act, they
will take the country to war. I think that's the
Middle West behind all of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I think if you look at history, World War one,
World War two, to a degree, the Civil War was
over people in the South bypassing financial people in the
North and sending their cotton buying their equipment for cotton
processing directly from England. That was economic to First World
(35:31):
War economic, Second World Wars economic. Look, the European Union
is a disaster. It's broke. When Germany closes its Volkswagen
plant after eighty eight years, you know something's wrong. They've
had so much, so many woke programs, and they've spent
(35:54):
so much money on social programs that are a waste
that they don't have anything left.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
And they stop making cars, they're going to start making weapons.
That's that's the key thing.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, that kind of covers the book.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Beat Their plowshares into swords the other way around.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Right, Yeah, yeah, So I think that if the European
Union goes in that you're going to start to see
a lot of long range weapons that are not available
now being given to the Ukraine, and they're going to
start striking deep in inside of Russia. And I think
(36:32):
the first thing that's going to happen is, well, imagine
this hoot and calling Macron and the French premiere and saying,
you know that city, lil you got up there in
northern Plants, Well, you better evacuate it, because we're going
to obliterate it the next forty eight hours. They don't
have any defense against. There's four or five weapons systems
(36:54):
the Russians have, and the Chinese pretty much have the
same thing that they have no diffen against.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
That's right, hypersonic hypersonic stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I just hope we don't get, yeah, the Kinshell or
Rashnik and some of these missiles. They've got a nuclear
cruise missile now that's been on a drawing board since
nineteen fifty three. We started toying with it, but we
dropped it. But they have developed something apparently, So I
(37:23):
don't want to see this happen. There's been way too
many people killed. Anybody waves the flag and wants to
go to war probably hasn't been involved in one. The
death and destruction is beyond words and you just can't
convey it. So people need to store food and water, bottom.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Line, and it's really really is upon us. I mean,
you know, there was a rumor mill that was sent around,
and you know, some people say, well that was just
to get people to watch Trump's address, you know, saying
that they were going to declare war. But my take
on it, what you think when he declares this total
blockade and then Venezuela responds by saying, well, then we're
(38:07):
going to use our navy to escort the tankers, it
seems to me like it's really imminent there, because you know,
it's just a push comes to shove and and we're
really close to that happening. And it is my take
on it was I figured that the White House administration
staff figured that was probably going to kick off before
you even had his speech. I'm surprised that it hasn't
(38:28):
kicked off yet. I mean, I haven't looked at the
news while I've been doing the news here, but you know,
I wouldn't be surprised if I get finished with the
show and I see that, you know, they've already kicked
off hostilities there with in Vietnam and Vietnam and Venezuela.
I call it Vinnam because it it's like we're getting
dragged into this thing.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah, it's unfortunate, but I think a lot of that
comes from I don't know, I've read that a lot
of the computer systems that were tabulated votes were seeming
to center out of Venezuela for some reason. On the
twenty twenty election. I think that.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Well, smart Matic has been at the epicenter of all
these questions about electronic election integrity, and there have been
you know that it started there with some pals of
Hugo Chavez, and they have had massive scandals in many
other countries, not just in America. I mean they were
accused of election interference in the Philippines, in Brazil. I
(39:31):
think it was in several different provinces of Mexico. So
they have a long history, which is the thing that
really amazed me. All the people who were pushing against,
you know, for the election stuff in twenty twenty, for
Trump never brought up that history of smart Matic. You know,
even after they had the lawsuits and stuff, they didn't say, well,
we're not the only ones saying this. This has been
said in you know, more than a half dozen different countries.
(39:53):
They accused you of manipulating the elections.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I question why that.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Was, Yeah, exactly, why wouldn't they make that case and
you know, and why would they continue to use the
machines anyway? I said that in twenty sixteen, you had
the Republican Party in Utah and they had a lot
of strong opposition in Utah to Trump in twenty sixteen,
and they wound up running a guy who had former
(40:21):
CIA against Trump to try to play games with you know,
you're going through and getting the electors, you know, for
the nomination. But I questioned why the Utah Republican Party
would bring in of all things, Smartmatic into Utah. And
I questioned that back in twenty sixteen, I said, so
why are they trying to rig this? You know? And
(40:41):
I think they know that the thing is rigged. They
just want to be able to pull the levers themselves.
You know. That's why they don't really pull the curtain
back and tell you what's going on.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
That could be. I'm just I'm of the belief we
need to go back to the indelible ink figures and
paper ballots that I felt something was going on way
back when they were having the dreaded tab problem down
in Florida.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah, there was something.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
It just didn't look right.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
The hanging chads. The hanging chad long before chad became
a meme of some rugged guy that the internet. But yeah,
that was I thought that was really if you look
at that point in time and you mentioned, you know,
the indelible ink on the fingers, that's how they were
in the elections in Iraq. And it's like, it's pretty
(41:38):
easy to do this. You do it on one day.
You get the indelible ink that's there, and you have
paper ballots, and you have people watching it as it's counted.
It's not rocket science. It doesn't have to be the
rocket science they want to nadiate it.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I had a woman, a black woman in my office.
Her We were friends with her and her husband, and
they knew all about my background. And he was a
great guy. She was a great woman, and she was
Daily's right hand man. She said, if they're sending one
of the dailies down to Florida to sort that out.
(42:15):
She said, those guys are masters at election deception.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
And she.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Went right in the middle of an election. They told
her to take some buses and run them around and
because the other the guy that was doing the buses
was sick, and she said, I'm not going to do that,
they fired her on the spot.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
The funny thing was her husband was a very prominent
architect and all of a sudden, all of his business
ride up. They had to leave Chicago. They virtually had
zero income compared to millions, and they came out to
Las Vegas and ended up getting a business there. I
(42:57):
went and testified form in court as an expert witness
on something and oh my god, I could not believe
what was going on. It was like following them there.
Oh yeah, it wasn't a judge, it just was the
whole situation didn't sound right. But she was very, very
(43:18):
well versed in election deception. She said, I saw it
all the time. They get Republican people as pole watchers
who are really Democrats, and they've been that for thirty
years and they totally control it. So yeah, I'm worried
about the twenty twenty sixth election.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I don't even worry about the elections anymore. I worry
what they're going to do once they get in and
I see the things being done by the different people.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
You know, I think we've got a movement in the
right direction. But how much another three years is going
to do I don't know, or two years if they
don't have control of the Congress. But uh, I mean,
why worry about uh, if you're going to talk Democrat
or Republican, why worry about a Democrat or Republican when
(44:09):
you got Republicans are worse than Democrats. Sports are part
Colonel law. Colonel Douglas McGregor made a very interesting statement,
which was they vote the way their donations come in.
Their donations come in heavily from defense industry. So in
(44:31):
a in a way, as much as Trump supposedly has
tried to stop wars, there's a movement that's the undercurrent
is still go to war. They need to prepare, They
need to get their mind right about this thing.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
The situation we live in is just extremely volatile. We've
got all of these social media platforms. One lady told me,
I call them Satan's platforms because they people will say
and do things. It's polarizing everybody. People will say things
to a person on the internet. I'm an affronte. I
(45:16):
know an African American woman who got fired from her
job for simply responding on Facebook to a statement she
put out and they took her statement without the other
statement that got deleted and sent it to her an employer,
and they fired her. She had no hearing, nothing, They
(45:38):
just flat out fired her. And it was wrong what
they did. She's a very nice lady. And this is
the kind of thing that goes on through these social
media platforms. Hell, I got rid of my iPhone. I
got a flip phone just to keep my sanity. You know.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
It's oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
It's just constant. I see people they've got their nose
stuck in their iPhone. What they've got need to do
is look around with what's around them. That a grocery
store has got groceries excuse me before because a truck
delivered them. I mean you have a direct supply to distributors.
(46:25):
Now a grocery store being a distributor, they don't even
have a warehouse with reserve foods. In them anymore. I
go over all this stuff in the Civil Defense Manual
and if I've had people read it. I had one
guy that bought my book and he sent me an
email he said, I don't know, he said, I don't
(46:46):
like to read that much, but I bought your books.
But my wife's read them and now she's telling me
everything we've got to do. So's I got the A
to Z in there.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
And you got it in a book format too, because yeah,
it's one of the first things we talked about the
fact that you know, you did that deliberately because you
don't want people to have to be dependent on electricity
or internet in order to be able to get access
to that information.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
In the worst case scenario that won't be there.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
So I also put it in fourteen point font it's
big letters, and I put it in such a manner
as eight and a half by eleven in the book
so people can read it easily.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
And this guy told me that his wife is now
who wasn't for any kind of preparation before she'd buy
in everything. He said, I have to watch her. He said,
you'll go in and pick twenty cans of something up
in a grocery store, but that grocery store is there
because the truck runs. A truck runs because there's fuel.
Truck runs because there's nothing interfering with the navigation system
(47:50):
or the truck computer systems, and that's very fragile, just
like the water system.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
That's right. And the fuel was there because they've got
a refinery that it's still working that hasn't been hit
by a drone or something like that as well. Correct,
Just so many points of vulnerability everywhere. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yeah, didn't they have a drone attack on a fuel
dump out in California here about three or four months ago.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
I'm not sure. I don't remember that they tried.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
I didn't see a lot of.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
It's happening all the time in Russia and Ukraine, and
it's just a matter of time before it happens. It
was very, very easy to do.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Yeah, I don't know how a person's going to survive
over there in the winter without some kind of a
heat source, I mean natural gas, I don't know fire. Yeah, well,
it'll be like the very first story in my book
about what happened in Bosnia in nineteen nineties. This was
(48:46):
a civil society. It turned into a bunch of animals.
They for one year, these people starved. The worst of
people came out and people say, oh, this is America. Okay,
it can't happen here. America is full of people. People
are people, and it will happen here, maybe worse than
(49:07):
it happens over there. The movies seem to give us
all of the weird things to think about, and I
think people will employ that stuff so well.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
I mean, just like what happened in twenty twenty. You know,
we saw, oh my god, you know, the ability of
you know, people who will follow orders that they shouldn't
be following you on lack of judgment, the ignorance, the
gaslighting that was happening, and all the rest of this stuff.
I mean, you know, it was it was insane. I mean,
we're just doing it all to ourselves. Is absolutely no
(49:39):
reason for any of it. It was to.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
I have to say I said this once before. I
think in your show my mother in law, we got
her out of Africa, got her here. She's been here
for seven years now, we got her her citizenship. And
I have to say this. She had both of her
legs amputated because she had all the COVID shots. Nobody
(50:07):
could figure out. All the vascular surgeons, nobody would say
they knew what it was. The closest they'd get was
autoimmune deficiency. She had so many cloths removed her first
or foot toes, foot, leg up to mid thigh. Other
leg came off after her hip. She's in a wheelchair now.
(50:30):
And I have to say this Trump was good enough
to have the Immigration service when she got eligible, they
swore her in and the old Folks Home. They had
a couple of the immigration people come there and that
was very touching. We had a big ceremony and the
videotaped and everything. It was a good thing. But unfortunately
(50:54):
her citizenship swearing in came after she lost her legs.
I thought they're going to take a right arm off.
That hasn't happened yet, but wow, you've been in a
hospital in and out. One of the doctors finally whispered,
it's a reaction to the COVID vaccine. So I urge people,
(51:14):
and they're afraid to say that vaccine, that's right. Yeah,
they're afraid to say that take care of itself, didn't
it That's right?
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah? Yeah, they're freaking out about the measles stuff. They
really want to bring that back against us. I am
seeing all this media freak out about it. It's like
you're not even saying anybody died, but look at how
they're freaking out about this. But it is a blowback
because people understand how they were deceived and lied to
throughout this whole COVID thing. Well, it's very important that
people prepare. We live in a very very dangerous time
(51:44):
that it's getting rapidly more dangerous, and there's some things
that you can do and should be able to do
to prepare for that. And Jack Lawson has one of
the best guides out there, if not the best guide
that is out there, jacklossonbooks dot Com Civil Defense Manual.
Thank you Jack for joining us. Have a good day,
Thank you, David. And Merry Christmas. Yes, and Merry Christmas
(52:04):
to you and to all of you. A good weekend.
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Speaker 4 (52:44):
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All right, welcome back and joining us now is Jack Lawson,
and you can find his books Civil Defense Manual. You
can find that at jacklowsonbooks dot com. He also has
a substack that he puts up very interesting articles. He's
had so much experience and survival type of situations, and
he knows a lot of people who are very well
(00:39):
schooled and who are expert and have lived this, and
so there's a lot of excellent tips in this book.
I wanted to get him on today because I wanted
to talk about the vulnerability that I see in terms
of infrastructure. The very first time I talked to Jack,
we were talking about how vulnerable our infrastructure was, you know,
to an EMP attack or something like that. And that
(01:01):
was a long time ago, and we see all of
these vulnerabilities really manifest, you know, multiplying and interconnected, and
so our entire society, our grid and everything that supports
it is getting more and more complex. And you know,
we see this happening with the AI stuff that is there.
(01:22):
The AI coming in and being inserted into our society
is going to be a whole nother point of possible
failure when we become dependent on that. We're going to
pull that in Jack into the Pentagon. They're very excited
about pulling AI and the Pentagon. I don't know about that.
I don't necessarily think that's a good thing. And so
(01:43):
you have these different types of failure modes. And because
we just had a couple of stories about that that
I didn't get to yet today. But it can fail
in some spectacular ways. But even the buildout of the
data centers and the power that they require is going
to be a challenging thing. Whether it is the green
agenda that's being imposed on people in the EU and
(02:05):
the UK destroying manufacturing and rationing energy making extremely expensive,
or whether it is going to be done because of
AI data centers, because they're going to get their first
crack at any energy and it's going to affect the
rapid buildout is going to affect the rates of energy
as well as the availability. So we got threats coming
(02:28):
from both the left and the right in terms of
the energy infrastructure, and that is such a fundamental part
of our society. We can all remember back to the
rationing that happened with OPEK. Just think when they start
rationing electricity and other things like that, and that can
come from any number of directions, but it also can
come from conflict. We look at what is happening in
(02:50):
Ukraine in Russia war. The two of them are taking
potshots at each other's infrastructure. And it is so incredibly easy,
and you've talked about this many times, Jack, So incredibly
easy to take out this complicated distributed infrastructure and it
can be very time consuming to get it back if
they take out the right things.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Can it Yes, it can't. David Died first like to
say this, I have a Christian mentor now I'm just
trying to get the heathen out of myself.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But he's we all are.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Retired army colonel, very very articulate and intelligent guy. He
sent me a picture from the Hubble telescope of our
galaxy and he put an arrow to a little spot
and I think it was in the Oriyan arm and
he put a little arrow to it and said us,
(03:52):
and I look at this thing. I put it at
the top of my to do list that I look
at every day. I've got to run it out eight
weeks so I know what's going on. And I was
just blown away by it. The Bible I'm going on
seventy nine. Am I afraid. No, I'm not afraid. I
(04:14):
used to think I was lucky, you know, and things
that have happened in my life, I shouldn't be talking
to you. I mean, it's just that I'm not trying
to portray myself as mister danger action guy or anything
like that. But the point being this, issues I've had
with my daughter, issues I've had in combat. I shouldn't
(04:42):
be here. My daughter wouldn't be here if, in my opinion,
it wasn't divine intervention. And I think people have to
know this is the first year I'm looking at Christmas differently.
It's not decorations. It's not always for the kids. Uh,
it's uh, it's it's a good feeling, and it's it's
(05:07):
the birth of somebody I believe is the savior of mankind.
Unfortunately we live as prisoners in physical under physical laws
that I don't think apply, and the rest of the universe.
(05:28):
And uh, people people look at this as things can
happen that are outside of this dimension. Uh, you know,
I think they're then in the you know, like mass prayer.
I believe it has a basis. But anyway, going back
(05:49):
to let me, let me just exe the ultimately, the.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Ultimate preparation, right is relief that that event that's going
to happen to each and every one of us, And
that's really what we need to prepare for first and foremost,
I think, and you're absolutely right about that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah. In this realm food and water. I used to
put food first. They're changing it around now to put
water in food because the water situation is that's moved
up the ladder. I don't think people realize we don't
have the wells that we used to have. We do
open wells. We have a structure that's so complex and
(06:32):
so dangerous and so fragile, and foreign governments that don't
like us have been spent thirty five years or more
practicing hacking into our systems. And now will that happen
(06:52):
for for any reason? I think will happen if we
align ourselves in some of these ongoing wars.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Agree, We've already aligned ourselves in the Middle East, so
that makes a bunch of enemies. But I think that
people have got to look at one thing for Christmas.
If they're going to get anything, get some blue barrels.
A couple of them. And fill them full of water.
I have an article for free on my my Civil
(07:25):
Defense website to tell people how to out of store
water and store it safely to keep it back terry
from growing in it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah. Yeah, because as we think about Darling, you know,
you thought he saw back terry growing into the water.
He has spontaneous generation. It's life coming out of water.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
It's like, well, no, water is a condition that's necessary
for life, but it doesn't create life. But yeah, you
can wind up with a lot of living things in
your water. You properly, can't you. It's oh, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I've had I've consumed water when it was in Africa
that looked great until we found uh the black guys
with me drank a couple of canteenfuls and they'd been
used to those water sources. I put purifying tableists in
mine and I had a meebeg dysentery within twenty four hours.
And it looked the water looks so good until we
(08:19):
pulled the float cover up. It was in the middle
of a Mozambique and it was a cattle watering trough
with windmill. We pulled the float cover up and there
was a dead monkey under there, full of maggots, and uh,
the black guys were peachy. They were just all happy
and everything. I wasn't the next day. I can guarantee
you I had it for a couple of months and
(08:40):
finally had doctor and parachute going to going through parachute
school with me. He said, I get to care for it,
and I'll spury the ghastly detail. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, no more dysentery after that.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, I'll tell you what people did want to be
around me.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
But so important things don't don't don't have dead monkeys
in your water. That's important safety.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Say, well, you know, and this is true of water
you see in a beer commercial going down the Rocky Mountain,
uh stream. You know it can look good, but it's
it's unbelievable. I'll say this, even city water. Uh. It's
you know, trying to talk to these guys that run
these places, uh and getting information from them. They don't
(09:33):
want to say anything. But the bottom line is if
you're depending on your tap water, uh, you can expect
it to be shut off at some point, and you.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Can also expect that maybe there's not a dead monkey,
but there might be aborted babies in it, right, That's
what I was talking about earlier.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You know that there wasn't aware of that until I
watched you say about that.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, I mean you think about I mean, well, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Can't get one thing about this abortion. What happened to birth? Can?
I know? I don't understand why this is the means
of keeping from you know, a woman getting rid of
a baby is birth control? That's a spirit to me, Yes,
(10:17):
that's there, And I think it's wrong, and I think
it's actually evil. I agree, people do this unless it's
a medical emergency, and that would have to be really
defined properly.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Well, it's taking a long time for us to get
the right to really realize what it truly is and
what it's about. And they've done a very good job
of keeping people in the dark about it, and so
you know, I it took a very long time. I remember,
you know, when I was younger and Christians all around me,
none of them really got it. I mean, the Catholics
(10:52):
understood it much earlier, for whatever reason. It took a
much longer time for most of the Protestants come around
and really realized what was really going on. Here started
posing it, so yeah, they can people pretty easily.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
My wife and I are third child. We'd actually paid
for an abortion. We were living in Minnesota. Then we
went to Minnesota, Minneapolis. It was going to happen. At
six o'clock in the morning, we went out for supper.
She could eat until twelve o'clock and we sat there
and we looked at each other and we both started crying,
(11:26):
and we said, you know something, We're going to take
what comes from this. We'll just take it as that's
the way. That's what we got, and we got a
beautiful daughter out of it. My god. She was the
first place fitness finalist in the United States against four
thousand girls in Los Angeles. And she's a wonderful assault
(11:50):
of the Earth girl. She's very She got her kids
in a Christian school. She pulled them out of the
school system where she lives because of the the Dei
and Wolke stuff that's in there, and it's out of control. So,
you know, we took what was given us and it
(12:11):
was a godsend. And I used that word godsend as
one word because that's what we got. It had to
come from there. I can't even begin to tell you
all of the issues I've had. She had another issue
from me. Let me let me tell Let me tell
you listening audience, a little bit about me. The first
(12:33):
thing was, I was in the American Air Force, and
this is the crazy guy that wanted to go to Vietnam,
and everybody that was going didn't want to go, and
I wanted to go. I went into electronics. I was
guaranteed I could go to Air Commando school, and I
got stuck in a missile squadron in Minnesota. I'm from Minnesota.
(12:55):
I didn't even know there was an Air Force base there,
and I ended up getting advanced to electronics training because
of my electronics aptitude. So I was the new guy
that got stuck sitting on top of the warhead of
the W forty thermonuclear warhead, and I got it radiated
(13:17):
from it. And I'm in the process of determining some
of this. But the daughter I'm talking about, all three
of our kids are great, but the daughter I'm talking
about almost died from a massive hemorrhage. She's one of
(13:37):
five recorded women in the world with two uterii and
she got pregnant in the deformed one and of all places.
She has a software company too. She's going into an
attorney's office and she called me. She said, Dad, she
said something's wrong. She said, I've been bleeding before, but
I'm bleeding a lot. And she lost eight of her
(14:00):
nine blood units. I said, get on nine to one
one right now. So they sent an ambulance over from
the trauma center right next door to where she was
and got her in there. They couldn't save the baby.
They saved her, but of all things, now, tell me
what the odds are? Am I lucky about this? Next
(14:20):
door in that trauma center there was one of the
world's foremost gynecological surgeons giving a lecture to one hundred doctors,
American doctors. He's from Croatia, and they pulled him out
of that lecture, took him in there. Again. He couldn't
save the baby, but baby's four months old or something.
(14:43):
But he spent six hours reconstructing her female organs and
she's got two wonderful, beautiful normal kids. Now, tell me
what the odds are that you would have a gynicle
surgeon like that right next to you. So anyway, that's.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
A providential miracle right there. Yeah, Not only was there
doctor in the house. But he turned out to be
an expert obstetrician. How about that?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, he I wrote a nice letter to him. He
was just a great guy about everything. Am I getting
afraid because I'm seventy nine. No, I've faced deaths so
many times. I'm numb to it. And I mean that
I am numb to it. When I see a catastrophic
situation that I come across, I don't ract like most people.
(15:37):
Racked mechanically, I've seen things that people haven't seen. After
the Air Force, I went into the Foreign Legion in
Africa in a nasty guerrilla war. I was in an
anti terrorist unit and I got my fill of combat
after that. Coming back to you United States is on
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one of the largest police boards in the United States
for seven years, and in doing that, I ended up
riding around with policemen all the time. And I have
a great deal of sympathy for policemen. People complain about
this happened, and that happened, and they're cross section of people,
(16:22):
like as much as they filter out, they're a cross section.
There's good ones and bad ones. A vast majority of
them are good people. So I've had a lot of
experience with that. I'm not going to go into other things.
But the long and short of it is, I'm more
than lucky. And as I told you once before, one
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of my friends looked in my car and saw a
Bible and said, laws and you a Bible, And I said, yeah,
I said, I go to a Bible study group. I've
got a combat Veterans group that came out of the
VA that I go to, and I've got another group
of Christian people I go there. I have problems relating.
(17:06):
I'm trying to connect to our Lord and Savior and
God and the Holy Spirit, and I'm working on it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Well, you know that's that's the key thing. You know,
Gratitude is a really really helpful thing for anybody to have.
And so you got the gratitude, but you know, when
you got gratitude and you don't know who you should
be thinking, that's that's you know who you thinkful too?
You know it just past Thanksgiving. It's important to know
who you are thinkful too, and who has put together
(17:38):
those events in your life. And and that's a real
grounding thing. So I'm glad that you're on your way.
We're all on our way. None of us have really
got it all figured out. And so the blessing is
is that you realize that and that's the key, that's
really the key. So yeah, you know you talk aboutferent copsre.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I forget it? Yes, just why I forget it? Merry
Christmas to you and your staff.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Well, thank you, Merry Christmas to you as well. Yeah,
you were talking about riding around with the cops and
how Yeah, they're all it's a mixed bag. And I've
talked many times about Frank Cirpico what he had to say.
He said, you know, when you have any institution, you're
going to have good and bad people in it, and
then you're going to the question is is the institution
(18:28):
going to embrace the bad or is it going to
purge it out. If it embraces it, then it becomes
a corruption throughout the entire institution, which is what he
saw in the police department in New York and what
he spoke out against. But we just had this terrorist
attack over the weekend in Bondi Beach, and I had
an article I didn't get to today, and there was
(18:50):
a woman who was there and she said she got
separated from her three year old and all the shooting
was going on, and she said the police were just there,
they were just standing around, two of them, the whole thing,
and she tried to get one of their guns. She's
lucky that they didn't hurt her, but she tried to
get one of their guns because she's going to go
do something about it. And so we've had a lot
(19:10):
of people say they just diood around, they didn't do anything.
And I've said for the longest time, this is why
you need to have guns. And you know, teachers need
to be armed because you know what happened with that
guy who disarmed the shooter. He didn't have any weapons,
but he and he went after him unarmed, and so
that's heroic. But you don't have that many heroes in life.
(19:31):
But if somebody is coming into your school and shooting people,
and you've got a gun and you know how to
use it defending yourself and defending other people there, that's
not heroic. That's just self survival. And that's the key thing.
That's part of the preparation. You know we need to have.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, well, you know people do thanks for a lot
of reasons. Why, you know, I've got a part in
my book and on my website of people become victims
and it's a it's incredible. Uh, it's it's human nature.
Though even though it is incredible. I I would say
(20:12):
that I was very much trusted and liked by the
main street policeman where I was on this board. They
were all apprehensive about having me in their car at
first because there was a board member.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But there's been movies about that right right along you
know where you're right right along.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Most of them their first instinct is to open the
door and push you out. You know, they watch it,
you know. But they just they got to trust me,
and the word went around and so they had me
in their cars and they liked the fact. You know, Uh,
(20:54):
they were generally a ninety nine percent of our great guys.
There's there's a like I said, it's just cross section.
As much filtering as they do, they get people in
there maybe shouldn't be in there. But they were great people.
But it absolutely did one thing for me. I wanted
to be a policeman at one time, and I no
longer want to be a policeman. Those guys in a
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combat zone and then go home to their families, it's
a horrible mental trauma.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
For those guys. Yeah, it's really tough.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Group. Actually are one of our groups that I go to,
the Bible studies that we're trying to get some of
these guys in. But politics come into play, you know.
That's the unfortunate part of a lot of this.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Mm hmmm, yeah, politics is always there. Well, you have
the books at Jack Lawson Books. You also have a substack.
Tell us little bit about your substack where people can
find it, and the kinds of articles that you've been
out there. We've reposted some of them.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Well, I go back to one thing. I feel like
an insurance salesman, you know that's talking to somebody's blind
and death. It's critical that people store water and food.
Bottom line, water and food. Second thing is medicines. And
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the third thing is to get together with your neighbors
and get to know your neighbors. And the reason you
want to do that if things go bad, you're going
to have an idea of who you can count on
and who you cannot count on. I have a whole
structure of setting up a neighborhood group like we do.
(22:43):
The long and short of the thing is if things
go really bad, which there's a strong possibility of especially
over this Ukrainian situation. I don't want to bum people
out before Christmas, but the next five months you can
probably expect European Union to go into the Ukraine directly.
(23:08):
I don't know what they're going to go in with,
woke units that are wearing high heels or what. But
the French sent fifteen hundred foreign legionnaires in there, and
I think they're probably all gone. I haven't heard anything
more about it, but I'm not supporting the Russians, but
(23:30):
I can tell you that they have obliterated almost everything
has been set in against them. I'm sure Putin's a
pretty ruthless guy. One of my friends in my Special
Forces chapter arrested him one time in Berlin and they
(23:52):
let him go because they thought he was a low
level guy. They didn't know he ran all of the
East German KGB and there's.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
A lot of people that are miscalculating about him.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Arthur, Oh, yeah, he's a very very intelligent guy that
knows how to use deception absolutely to his benefit. But
if we go in there, that's when this hacking. If
we get dragged into this thing. There's a couple of
bills in front of Congress to get us out of NATO,
which that should have been done a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
But if we get pressured, the president gets pressured because
of a treaty to put people in there, and we
get directly involved, or even indirectly to a degree, I
think you're going to see hacking of systems, water, who knows,
drone attacks. I mean, look what's going on over in
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the Ukraine. I don't think they're going to have very
many Christmas tree lit over there. Their whole electrical structure
is just not unless I got a match, yeah, burning
a tree figure, that's about all that they're going to
have it. They've they've taken out almost all their electrical Yeah,
when you get down to generators, it's a touchy thing,
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you know, to run most systems.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
And they're going there on the other hand as well,
not just Ukraine from Russia, but the Ukrainians are sending
in drones to blow up oil depots and other things
like that, refineries inside of Russia. It's going in both directions,
and it is it's so easy to do now with
the drone warfare. And so we stop and think about this.
You know, if we're going to have if we're going
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to turn the drug war into a hot war and
we're going to start shooting and bombing these different drug cartels.
They've been around now for over fifty years, and they've
gotten a lot of money, they've gotten very ruthless, and
they've got a lot of equipment as well. But they
don't even need to have a lot of equipment. They
could do their own asymmetric warfare. When you look at it,
(25:54):
they could start blowing up our infrastructure if we go
against Venezuela or if we go against Mexican drug carts tels. Uh,
and really if he wants to go against the Fennyl,
that's obviously going to be attacking Mexican cartels and so
that kind of thing could escalate very quickly. If that
were to happen, I would expect all of this, which
I think, you know, putting the troops into cities for
(26:16):
immigration stuff, I think that was really more about moving
the Overton window to put them into cities, which is
something the Pentagon has been talking about doing for a
long time, talked about this under Obama. Even this is
a bipartisan agenda, it happens with Democrats happen as Republicans
got to move the military into the cities. We're going
to be fighting in the city, said Pentagon videos. And
(26:38):
I've played those for people now for over a decade,
and that would be the thing that would kick it off,
and people would be cheering for that. If we've got
drug cartels that start taking out yeah, that's right, that's a.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Double edged sword putting troops in. I don't know how
they're going to rectify this issue with all of these
people in here sucking the financial system dry. It's way
more money than I think anybody's reported. But I look
at these alleged eight billion dollars in Minnesota that just
(27:20):
disappeared of federal funds. My absolute fraud. I come from
a multiracial family, but my sisters and brothers adopted kids
from all over the world. They were kids, they grew
up to become Americans. When you bring somebody from Africa,
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and I've warned people of this that not to bash
the Muslims, but they're Muslim and they don't integrate very well.
They never did over there. A lot of them are Muslims, and.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Especially when you bring them in and large mass.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, yeah, you bring them in with the adult mindset
and the first thing they do is what they did
where they were from. And they want to tell you
all about your country. But the place a left as
a hole in the ground. It's it's absolutely atrocious. I mean,
I've seen these people. I've seen the starvation, I've seen
(28:23):
the killing. It's just there. There's somebody you don't want
in your society. Yet they've how many millions have they
brought into this country. It's out of control.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
And yeah, you were saying that you were in you
were saying you were in Minneapolis. That's now become a
little Mogadishu.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Oh my god. I've talked to people, a friend of mine,
his sons, a homicide detective in Minneapolis and parts of
town they don't even go into with a with a
convoy of police cars. It's just too dangerous. Wow, And
that's that's never been before. The Minneapolis I remember was
(29:07):
pretty calm and uh, you didn't have those types of situations.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And again, if you're getting back to do something, why
not start there?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Would have been the obvious starting place. But they waited
a long time to get involved there, didn't they.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Oh, it's totally out of control. Last time I went
back there, I could not believe it. They were giving
unvetted people all of the Muslims. They're giving a tour
of the airport to try to remove suspicions from them,
the tour of all the secure areas everything. As far
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as I'm concerned, everybody up there has pretty much lost
their mind. You know, they are too docile about everything.
They don't want to offend anybody. Yeah, but get yourself
in a group of those people and see how you're
really treated after they get familiar with you. Going back
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to the water the food. People don't realize how fragile
these things are. I've got a lot of articles I
think one hundred and twenty or something like that on
my substack Jacklawson dot jacklosson Books dot substack dot com.
(30:29):
And there's a lot of articles on there that will
tell people how to do some basic preparation. And if
there's one thing I could get across the people of
anything I say today, is to store water and food.
It is critical. It's going to be a madhouse if
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you don't have it, and you're going to be involved.
I believe this that if you don't have a plan
You're going to be a part of someone else's plan,
whether you like it or not. And that part may
be that they're going to kick your door down injure you,
kill you, rape your wife, daughters, whatever. I don't want
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to make this sound horrible, but if if you don't
have a means to defend yourself and you don't have
food and water, you're going to be part of that crowd.
The other thing they might be doing, if it gets
bad enough, is having it for supper. Because cannibalism, as
much as people don't think it's it's it's taboo here,
(31:35):
it will resurface. That's the long and short of it.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah. I mean we've seen that with several different movies.
I'm in the one movie about the plane crash, and
that was that the Indies or something, and you know
they're stuck up there and and you know that's what
that was about, you know, but you know the Donner
party or whatever. You know, that's one of the jokes
we used to always do when we go to a
restaurant that ask for our last name and I tell
them Donner, so they would party of five. Yeah, that's us.
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We're pretty hungry. Better get us the table.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Oh, it starts off as somebody's dying and says I
want to give the gift of my body to you. Yeah,
you know, and people people will resort to that if
if they're hungry. That's where I draw the line. I
don't know. I suppose living around the world like I've lived,
I've probably had human flesh consumed and didn't know the difference.
(32:30):
But I mean, they they had that poor girl in England,
thirteen years old, they killed her and put her in
uh Kebab's, you know, And that's that's that's where the
that's where these people are out of control. They don't
belong in this country. They're just I don't want to
(32:50):
sound xenophobic, but that's a fact of life. They don't
belong in this country. If you want the third world
in this country, you get used to living the third world.
And I've lived in it. Yeah, I've lived in the
third world. And what I call the fourth world, And.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
What would you call the fourth world?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Well, I call the third world a place that has
maybe gravel or beaten paths. The fourth world doesn't have
a path for.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
They're just there, yeah, yeah, in this natural, unadulterated state right, Yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Well, but we are in a very precarious situation. You know,
this is not hysteria. I have a lot of contacts
people that were in the intelligence community, and they're all
expecting something to happen in the next four or five months.
When I say something happened, I think this Ukrainian thing
(33:55):
is just going to go on. It's almost like nineteen
eighty four you watch that movie, Yeah, and Eurasia and
the rest of the way, they're constantly going out war.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah. Yeah, I've never seen a thing like this in
my lifetime. I've never seen this kind of mass delusion
and insanity. What I think is happening with it, Jack
is you know we about every eighty years, you know,
we have a massive restructuring of society. It's a pattern
that's been pretty well documented. And so we've already got
the economic aspect of the war. Is the next thing
(34:26):
is that Gerald Clinty I have on frequently. He usually says,
you know, when when they lose everything, they take you
to war and they understand the mess that they've made
of their countries. They brought in this massive immigration stuff
and you know, it's a replacement and it's bearing fruit
now and they're green New Deal where they have shut
down people's power and shut down industry and other things
(34:48):
like that. People are getting really really angry about it,
and so they understand that people are catching on that,
people realize that that's the program. So to keep them
from coming after them, as a self preservation act, they
will take the country to war. I think that's the
Middle West behind all of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I think if you look at history, World War one,
World War two, to a degree, the Civil War was
over people in the South bypassing financial people in the
North and sending their cotton buying their equipment for cotton
processing directly from England. That was economic to First World
(35:31):
War economic, Second World Wars economic. Look, the European Union
is a disaster. It's broke. When Germany closes its Volkswagen
plant after eighty eight years, you know something's wrong. They've
had so much, so many woke programs, and they've spent
(35:54):
so much money on social programs that are a waste
that they don't have anything left.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
And they stop making cars, they're going to start making weapons.
That's that's the key thing.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, that kind of covers the book.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Beat Their plowshares into swords the other way around.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Right, Yeah, yeah, So I think that if the European
Union goes in that you're going to start to see
a lot of long range weapons that are not available
now being given to the Ukraine, and they're going to
start striking deep in inside of Russia. And I think
(36:32):
the first thing that's going to happen is, well, imagine
this hoot and calling Macron and the French premiere and saying,
you know that city, lil you got up there in
northern Plants, Well, you better evacuate it, because we're going
to obliterate it the next forty eight hours. They don't
have any defense against. There's four or five weapons systems
(36:54):
the Russians have, and the Chinese pretty much have the
same thing that they have no diffen against.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
That's right, hypersonic hypersonic stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I just hope we don't get, yeah, the Kinshell or
Rashnik and some of these missiles. They've got a nuclear
cruise missile now that's been on a drawing board since
nineteen fifty three. We started toying with it, but we
dropped it. But they have developed something apparently, So I
(37:23):
don't want to see this happen. There's been way too
many people killed. Anybody waves the flag and wants to
go to war probably hasn't been involved in one. The
death and destruction is beyond words and you just can't
convey it. So people need to store food and water, bottom.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Line, and it's really really is upon us. I mean,
you know, there was a rumor mill that was sent around,
and you know, some people say, well that was just
to get people to watch Trump's address, you know, saying
that they were going to declare war. But my take
on it, what you think when he declares this total
blockade and then Venezuela responds by saying, well, then we're
(38:07):
going to use our navy to escort the tankers, it
seems to me like it's really imminent there, because you know,
it's just a push comes to shove and and we're
really close to that happening. And it is my take
on it was I figured that the White House administration
staff figured that was probably going to kick off before
you even had his speech. I'm surprised that it hasn't
(38:28):
kicked off yet. I mean, I haven't looked at the
news while I've been doing the news here, but you know,
I wouldn't be surprised if I get finished with the
show and I see that, you know, they've already kicked
off hostilities there with in Vietnam and Vietnam and Venezuela.
I call it Vinnam because it it's like we're getting
dragged into this thing.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah, it's unfortunate, but I think a lot of that
comes from I don't know, I've read that a lot
of the computer systems that were tabulated votes were seeming
to center out of Venezuela for some reason. On the
twenty twenty election. I think that.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Well, smart Matic has been at the epicenter of all
these questions about electronic election integrity, and there have been
you know that it started there with some pals of
Hugo Chavez, and they have had massive scandals in many
other countries, not just in America. I mean they were
accused of election interference in the Philippines, in Brazil. I
(39:31):
think it was in several different provinces of Mexico. So
they have a long history, which is the thing that
really amazed me. All the people who were pushing against,
you know, for the election stuff in twenty twenty, for
Trump never brought up that history of smart Matic. You know,
even after they had the lawsuits and stuff, they didn't say, well,
we're not the only ones saying this. This has been
said in you know, more than a half dozen different countries.
(39:53):
They accused you of manipulating the elections.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I question why that.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Was, Yeah, exactly, why wouldn't they make that case and
you know, and why would they continue to use the
machines anyway? I said that in twenty sixteen, you had
the Republican Party in Utah and they had a lot
of strong opposition in Utah to Trump in twenty sixteen,
and they wound up running a guy who had former
(40:21):
CIA against Trump to try to play games with you know,
you're going through and getting the electors, you know, for
the nomination. But I questioned why the Utah Republican Party
would bring in of all things, Smartmatic into Utah. And
I questioned that back in twenty sixteen, I said, so
why are they trying to rig this? You know? And
(40:41):
I think they know that the thing is rigged. They
just want to be able to pull the levers themselves.
You know. That's why they don't really pull the curtain
back and tell you what's going on.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
That could be. I'm just I'm of the belief we
need to go back to the indelible ink figures and
paper ballots that I felt something was going on way
back when they were having the dreaded tab problem down
in Florida.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah, there was something.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
It just didn't look right.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
The hanging chads. The hanging chad long before chad became
a meme of some rugged guy that the internet. But yeah,
that was I thought that was really if you look
at that point in time and you mentioned, you know,
the indelible ink on the fingers, that's how they were
in the elections in Iraq. And it's like, it's pretty
(41:38):
easy to do this. You do it on one day.
You get the indelible ink that's there, and you have
paper ballots, and you have people watching it as it's counted.
It's not rocket science. It doesn't have to be the
rocket science they want to nadiate it.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I had a woman, a black woman in my office.
Her We were friends with her and her husband, and
they knew all about my background. And he was a
great guy. She was a great woman, and she was
Daily's right hand man. She said, if they're sending one
of the dailies down to Florida to sort that out.
(42:15):
She said, those guys are masters at election deception.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
And she.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Went right in the middle of an election. They told
her to take some buses and run them around and
because the other the guy that was doing the buses
was sick, and she said, I'm not going to do that,
they fired her on the spot.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
The funny thing was her husband was a very prominent
architect and all of a sudden, all of his business
ride up. They had to leave Chicago. They virtually had
zero income compared to millions, and they came out to
Las Vegas and ended up getting a business there. I
(42:57):
went and testified form in court as an expert witness
on something and oh my god, I could not believe
what was going on. It was like following them there.
Oh yeah, it wasn't a judge, it just was the
whole situation didn't sound right. But she was very, very
(43:18):
well versed in election deception. She said, I saw it
all the time. They get Republican people as pole watchers
who are really Democrats, and they've been that for thirty
years and they totally control it. So yeah, I'm worried
about the twenty twenty sixth election.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I don't even worry about the elections anymore. I worry
what they're going to do once they get in and
I see the things being done by the different people.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
You know, I think we've got a movement in the
right direction. But how much another three years is going
to do I don't know, or two years if they
don't have control of the Congress. But uh, I mean,
why worry about uh, if you're going to talk Democrat
or Republican, why worry about a Democrat or Republican when
(44:09):
you got Republicans are worse than Democrats. Sports are part
Colonel law. Colonel Douglas McGregor made a very interesting statement,
which was they vote the way their donations come in.
Their donations come in heavily from defense industry. So in
(44:31):
a in a way, as much as Trump supposedly has
tried to stop wars, there's a movement that's the undercurrent
is still go to war. They need to prepare, They
need to get their mind right about this thing.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
The situation we live in is just extremely volatile. We've
got all of these social media platforms. One lady told me,
I call them Satan's platforms because they people will say
and do things. It's polarizing everybody. People will say things
to a person on the internet. I'm an affronte. I
(45:16):
know an African American woman who got fired from her
job for simply responding on Facebook to a statement she
put out and they took her statement without the other
statement that got deleted and sent it to her an employer,
and they fired her. She had no hearing, nothing, They
(45:38):
just flat out fired her. And it was wrong what
they did. She's a very nice lady. And this is
the kind of thing that goes on through these social
media platforms. Hell, I got rid of my iPhone. I
got a flip phone just to keep my sanity. You know.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
It's oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
It's just constant. I see people they've got their nose
stuck in their iPhone. What they've got need to do
is look around with what's around them. That a grocery
store has got groceries excuse me before because a truck
delivered them. I mean you have a direct supply to distributors.
(46:25):
Now a grocery store being a distributor, they don't even
have a warehouse with reserve foods. In them anymore. I
go over all this stuff in the Civil Defense Manual
and if I've had people read it. I had one
guy that bought my book and he sent me an
email he said, I don't know, he said, I don't
(46:46):
like to read that much, but I bought your books.
But my wife's read them and now she's telling me
everything we've got to do. So's I got the A
to Z in there.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
And you got it in a book format too, because yeah,
it's one of the first things we talked about the
fact that you know, you did that deliberately because you
don't want people to have to be dependent on electricity
or internet in order to be able to get access
to that information.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
In the worst case scenario that won't be there.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
So I also put it in fourteen point font it's
big letters, and I put it in such a manner
as eight and a half by eleven in the book
so people can read it easily.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
And this guy told me that his wife is now
who wasn't for any kind of preparation before she'd buy
in everything. He said, I have to watch her. He said,
you'll go in and pick twenty cans of something up
in a grocery store, but that grocery store is there
because the truck runs. A truck runs because there's fuel.
Truck runs because there's nothing interfering with the navigation system
(47:50):
or the truck computer systems, and that's very fragile, just
like the water system.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
That's right. And the fuel was there because they've got
a refinery that it's still working that hasn't been hit
by a drone or something like that as well. Correct,
Just so many points of vulnerability everywhere. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yeah, didn't they have a drone attack on a fuel
dump out in California here about three or four months ago.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
I'm not sure. I don't remember that they tried.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
I didn't see a lot of.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
It's happening all the time in Russia and Ukraine, and
it's just a matter of time before it happens. It
was very, very easy to do.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Yeah, I don't know how a person's going to survive
over there in the winter without some kind of a
heat source, I mean natural gas, I don't know fire. Yeah, well,
it'll be like the very first story in my book
about what happened in Bosnia in nineteen nineties. This was
(48:46):
a civil society. It turned into a bunch of animals.
They for one year, these people starved. The worst of
people came out and people say, oh, this is America. Okay,
it can't happen here. America is full of people. People
are people, and it will happen here, maybe worse than
(49:07):
it happens over there. The movies seem to give us
all of the weird things to think about, and I
think people will employ that stuff so well.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
I mean, just like what happened in twenty twenty. You know,
we saw, oh my god, you know, the ability of
you know, people who will follow orders that they shouldn't
be following you on lack of judgment, the ignorance, the
gaslighting that was happening, and all the rest of this stuff.
I mean, you know, it was it was insane. I mean,
we're just doing it all to ourselves. Is absolutely no
(49:39):
reason for any of it. It was to.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
I have to say I said this once before. I
think in your show my mother in law, we got
her out of Africa, got her here. She's been here
for seven years now, we got her her citizenship. And
I have to say this. She had both of her
legs amputated because she had all the COVID shots. Nobody
(50:07):
could figure out. All the vascular surgeons, nobody would say
they knew what it was. The closest they'd get was
autoimmune deficiency. She had so many cloths removed her first
or foot toes, foot, leg up to mid thigh. Other
leg came off after her hip. She's in a wheelchair now.
(50:30):
And I have to say this Trump was good enough
to have the Immigration service when she got eligible, they
swore her in and the old Folks Home. They had
a couple of the immigration people come there and that
was very touching. We had a big ceremony and the
videotaped and everything. It was a good thing. But unfortunately
(50:54):
her citizenship swearing in came after she lost her legs.
I thought they're going to take a right arm off.
That hasn't happened yet, but wow, you've been in a
hospital in and out. One of the doctors finally whispered,
it's a reaction to the COVID vaccine. So I urge people,
(51:14):
and they're afraid to say that vaccine, that's right. Yeah,
they're afraid to say that take care of itself, didn't
it That's right?
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah? Yeah, they're freaking out about the measles stuff. They
really want to bring that back against us. I am
seeing all this media freak out about it. It's like
you're not even saying anybody died, but look at how
they're freaking out about this. But it is a blowback
because people understand how they were deceived and lied to
throughout this whole COVID thing. Well, it's very important that
people prepare. We live in a very very dangerous time
(51:44):
that it's getting rapidly more dangerous, and there's some things
that you can do and should be able to do
to prepare for that. And Jack Lawson has one of
the best guides out there, if not the best guide
that is out there, jacklossonbooks dot Com Civil Defense Manual.
Thank you Jack for joining us. Have a good day,
Thank you, David. And Merry Christmas. Yes, and Merry Christmas
(52:04):
to you and to all of you. A good weekend.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
You can take a photo on a phone, there is
machine learning in the background.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Highest quality video capture ever in a smartphone.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
In the metaverse, we're going to need AI that is
build around helping people navigate virtual worlds as well as
our physical world with augmented reality. Augmented reality is a
profound technology that includes like your position in three D space,
your body language, facial gestures. We invented new intimate ways
(52:36):
to connect and communicate directly from your risk, everything from
virtual reality to designing our own data centers.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
Describing what's coming even it's just so different in you.
I've been in this infrastructure business for three decades.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
No one has ever seen an industry yeah, and now I.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Expect that these trends will only increase in the future.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
And in the last few months we launched voice Envision
capabilities so that chat ept can now see, hear, and
speak courts up to one hundred and twenty eight thousand
tokens of contexts.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
That's three hundred pages of a standard book. That's all
AI generated.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
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