August 14, 2025 • 40 mins
Tony Arterburn warns that America’s economic decline is no accident—it’s the prelude to a digital currency trap. BlackRock pushing stablecoins as a backdoor CBDC, he exposes the race for commodities and the rigged system keeping Americans in perpetual debt. The dollar won’t vanish overnight—it will be converted into a programmable tool of control.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
I mean now is Tony Ardeburn of Wise Wolf Gold
and you go to David Knight dot Gold if you'd
like to start accumulating some gold and silver or gold
or silver. You can do both or one or the other.
Tony has many different options available. Thank you for joining
us today, Tony.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
That's great to be back. Good to see you.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
True, it's always a pleasure, and I want to let
the audience know that Tony will be hosting the show tomorrow.
We are going to start our reconstruction first, our destruction
and reconstruction of the studio. So Tony has graciously volunteered
to take over the show so that we can have
an extra day to work on that. Really do appreciate that.
On wise this would be it's already going to be
(00:44):
a monumental task, but hopefully the extra day will buy
us the time we need. But yes, you can look
forward to Tony Ardeburn hosting the David Night Show tomorrow,
so tune in for that. I want to what's foremost
on your mind to start, Tony, what would you like
to start with? Get your assessment?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Just the research. Lately on the we talked off air
about the increase and the money supply, and you see
that the President Trump really pushing right now, even with
threatening a lawsuit. It's tombout unprecedented waters. I think that's
also a big tell on how the system works, that
the President of the United States is like threatening a
(01:23):
lawsuit again, better reserve chair and not just replace them
because it didn't have the power to do that. I
mean technically, I think I think the the push to
increase the money supply to create a weaker dollar for
the illusion really of economic strength, and that's that's what
they wanted, that sugar high of you know, liquidity and
(01:47):
currency being pumped into the system, which does create a
temporary boon. But then we have the same problems that
we always have. We have inflation, run away inflation, you
have economic downturns, you have bubbles, you have you know,
decline and prosperity and all the stuff that comes with
a bust after a boom. So I'm looking at the
(02:08):
big picture still, I mean, that's my wheelhouse and where
I go to. And you look at the response from India, Travis,
You look at what they're doing right now because of
the tariffs that were placed on them, and even the
thread of other economic sanctions with their ties to China,
they're moving closer to China. So Bricks is it's like
(02:30):
almost a self fulfilling prophecy. We've done nothing to invite
the world to do business with us, done nothing. We're
actually pushing people away. This is the most isolationist policy
I've ever seen. And by the way, I mean I've
talked about this many times with your dad and you.
I'm an economic nationalist. I want tariffs, I love that,
(02:52):
but we're not playing that game. We're playing something totally different.
And I just like to be clear for the record,
I might even have to abandon than what I used
to believe about economic nationalism and policy because it's clearly
this is some fun house mirror version of that. So
you have these threats of tariffs and ricks Slowly, actually
(03:16):
not slowly, that's probably an incorrect description. Rix is growing
and they're solidifying their economic ties. You're talking about what's
the population population of India and China together? What is
that abo almost half of humanity getting together. You add
(03:38):
the other Bricks nations into that, and the dedollarization and
the payment systems that they're creating, and it's just spells
disaster for US economic policy. We're doing nothing to stop
that and everything to increase. I think the search for
things like commodities rare with minerals, gold and finite items commodities.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, the uh. I've said it before, But the time
of America being able to just swagger into the room
and say this is how it's gonna be, this is
how we're doing things. You're gonna do what we say
or else are done. There's other world powers out there
that have economies of scale that can be interacted with.
They don't no longer have to bow and scrape before America.
(04:27):
They can interact with each other and not have to
worry about dealing with our belligerent foreign policy. It's like,
all right, well, if you're gonna play that game, we'll
simply choose not to play. And Donald Trump doesn't seem
to realize that he you know, if he was the president,
you know, say fifty sixty years ago or maybe a
little bit longer, when America's at the height of its
(04:47):
economic power, but he could probably get away with this
kind of thing. People go like, all right, yeah, it sucks,
but what are you gonna do. It's America. But those
days are gone. And as you said, bricks is you know,
they're growing stronger, they're solidifying their relationships, and as you
pointed out, we're simply driving them further and further away.
(05:08):
Got a comment here from KWD sixty eight says silver
and gold both are up about two and a half
times in the last ten years. People talk about silver underperforming,
but it has gained. It's a hedge and something to hold.
And of course I know you're big on silver, and
I like silver as well. When I have extra cash,
if I ever do, I need to start accumulating more
(05:30):
of it. But it's just it's a good store and
it hasn't run away like gold has. Gold is definitely
one of those things where it's hard to accumulate for
the average person. You of course offer the you know,
very small grams and things of it, but even that
I assume is you know, getting more expensive and probably
(05:52):
harder to source.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Oh. Absolutely, the Combe bars, you know, the one hundred
grand bars that come in a pack. We're able to
break that off and save people a little bit of premium.
Those are harder and harder to source. And it is
interesting you know that the fractional gold is being swallowed
up right now and silver as you mentioned earlier, and
that for the average person, just getting a little bit
(06:17):
of silver is pretty easy. You know, you can still
do that the price and I think this is a
blessing in disguise. A lot of people get frustrated with
the price of silver because it never did this, you know,
parabolic take you know, up into the right price, go
up forever, number go up. It hasn't done that, and
I think that's for accumulation reasons. That's a lot of
(06:38):
the big banks, you know, JP Morgan obviously the largest
holder physical hold of silver in the world private they've
been convicted of suppressing the Fronce something they like to accumulate.
They suppress the price they hold it. But I think
that game has changed Travis with silver, and you can
see that with with Russia adding it as a strategic
(06:59):
reserve st I think that is probably one of the
most important stories on silver in the last fifty years.
I think this will be a bigger story than the
Hunt family in the nineteen seventies. I think just that
Russia leading the way and again Russia's relation to bricks
(07:20):
the entire chessboard economically, if I look at it it's
a race for rare minerals. It's a race for commodities.
The era of FIAT and we're about tomorrow is Hey,
it's fortuitous because I get to host on the anniversary
of Nixon taking us off the gold standard nineteen seventy one,
August fifteenth. Since that time, August fifteenth, nineteen seventy one,
(07:42):
we've been in a real time experiment. And that experiment's
coming to a close. It doesn't mean that they won't
use FIAT necessarily, but it's going to go to a digitized,
tokenized system, as we were seeing through the Genius Act
and stable coins and the things like that. But as
far as just the standard, you know, canesyan model of
(08:03):
increase the money supply, you know, and inflate the bubble.
We just hit thirty seven trillion dollars in debt yesterday,
as a matter of fact, I mean it was that's
a milestone. That doesn't even count the unfunded liability. So
the United States is bankrupt on paper, it's bankrupt. It's
bankrupt foreign policy as a bankrupt economic policy. And we
(08:25):
know that, I mean, anybody. They don't talk about it
anymore because you can't do anything about it I mean
used to. I mean there was a time perhaps you know,
in a quaint time in the mid nineties, when you
could see that, oh, we have a we have a resolution,
and there's a contract for America and all this stuff,
and then you got the debt clock stops and there's
a surplus. Remember that they actually had this thing, They
(08:46):
had a surplus. It sounds silly now, but that the
debt was around four trillion, you know, three and a
half four trillion at that time, and then now it's
thirty seven trillion. So you know, the wheels are off
on that. There's a lot of change on the horizon.
And if you see, you know, like the central banks,
they're not going and buying up stocks and accumulating other currencies,
(09:11):
as we've seen with the supplanting of the euro. You know,
the euro used to be usuld be the dollar and
then the euro as far as what was held by
central banks and reserve assets. Now it's the dollar and
then gold. Okay, So it's because the dollar is easy
to trade. It's still that, you know, it's a somewhat
(09:31):
stable currency system, but that's being replaced and we're accelerating
the policies of this country are accelerating that. So I
think the big story here is the race towards commodities,
the abandoning of the Fiat system post nineteen seventy one,
and the great reset, which is they tell you they're
going to do it and we're right in the middle
(09:52):
of it.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Earlier in the show, we were talking about some articles saying, yo, old,
older Americans are deciding that buying a home just you know,
simply doesn't fit their budget anymore. They're deciding they think
they'd rather rent, just like. Yeah, I wonder why that is.
Could it be because they've been priced out of it?
Could it be because inflation has gone through the roof
and the cost of everything has you know, doubled or
tripled over the years. Now they're painting it as oh,
(10:16):
they just decided you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
But people aren't happy yet. I haven't worked that part
out yet. They're working towards the own nothing, they seem
to be really good at that. It's the happiness thing
they're struggling with.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well that you saw the you know, black rock, especially
after COVID nineteen eighty four and the big liquidity push
that came in after that, and you know, everybody was
locked down, you're not essential, and they came in and
started buying giant swaths of houses. They're using all that
all those funds that were pumped into the system to
buy up the real estate, and of course it continued
(10:52):
to artificially keep the prices high, so we didn't have
a housing correction or natural housing cycles. And the reason
that housing prices are the way they are is because
of the loss of purchasing power in the dollar. And
I think at the end of the day, it's it
is a bubble. You know, there's only so many houses,
there's only so much real estate, and you know, you
(11:12):
place that value and then every time you create a
home loan Travis, it creates currency. It's not like they're
take it from a reserve. It's like, okay, well we've
got so much in the deposits, so we're gonna lend
you this and then you can buy this house. That's
not how that works, create new currency. So every time
that that inflates the bubble that we're on that system
right now, and that is I think people are smart
(11:34):
right now to be skeptical about getting into the housing market.
I've I've been doing. I've I have the ability to
do a Vielaw and I just kind of sit back
and could do it, but I just don't, and I'm wondering,
I don't know if I see the advantage of getting in.
It's like that prices are too high, you know, I don't.
(11:55):
I don't. I don't look at it as an advantage.
And you know, you can argue about whether a home
homes an asset or not. But that's where a lot
of you know, people have been able to park their
energy and their savings into the equity of their home
in the past, and we're seeing that system come apart.
It becomes easier. I read an article a few weeks
(12:18):
ago on my show from Bitcoin Magazine and they were saying,
the younger people are just looking at digital assets and
digital territory in real estate. And you could say the
same thing for you know, if you can't, if you're
not able to get into a house, you've got to
have somewhere to house and you know, your savings and
other things, so that would be you know, physical gold
(12:40):
and silver would be another way to do that, you know,
physical assets that I think that's going to be a
big wave of the future when people are continue to
be priced out of these out of houses, and I
do think we'll have a correction, but even still, it's
it's going to be I think, out of reach for
a lot of people, and the economic strategies because of
the jobs that aren't there.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, the economy is not the same as it was.
You know, there used to be a time where you
could you could get a factory job and support an
entire family on one income working at a factory, and
those days are generally long gone. You basically need a
two person household, two people working to support a singular child.
(13:21):
If you have more than one child, it becomes a
bit of a stretch. We've got Epstein Island and Chat
says silver is thirty eight dollars and three cents today,
And Steve Evs would like to know what should silver
be at if they weren't suppressing things, if they weren't
holding it down, What do you think silver would be at.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I think that we see a minimum of one hundred
dollars now, I think the true valuation of silver. And
it is kind of a silly thing to look at too.
When you look at the charts of wealth and the
so called wealth in the world, and you have these
big blocks of you know, hundreds of trillions, and it's
like a five hundred trillion dollar economy or something like that,
(14:06):
with sovereign weals, funds and currencies and stock markets. And
then silver has a one point seven trillion dollar market
cap out of hundreds of trillions. And you know, silver
was always considered a monetary metal throughout human history, but
it's only you know again one point seven trillion or
whatever it is against the hundreds of trillions that are
(14:29):
supposedly you know, assets in the world. I don't buy that.
It's a two hundred million ounce plus deficit a year
on silver. So like everything that's demanded from the mining
and production they have to take from the above ground supply,
it's two hundred million plus ounces a year, and that's
just only increasing. And I think that so that the
(14:51):
true price was a minimum one hundred and then if
you look at you know, you just take the gold
price and divide by sixteen, you know, so whatever that is,
whatever that is today, it's like, you know, thirty, let's
see what the spot price is right now. A spot
price that, as according to gold price don work, is
thirty three forty five on gold, So should we should
(15:15):
we do the math, Travis, we do a sixteen to
one ratio and see if we can make that in
real time. See if I can pull it off. Let's
see it's thirty three forty and we divide that by sixteen.
That puts if we if we're going by the metrics
by the founding fathers of the United States of America
and some of the smartest men ever live to put
(15:36):
an economic system together, h silver was sixteen to one,
So that makes it two hundred and eight dollars.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, we actually had KWD sixty eight in chat said
before you even did that. Some argue that since silver's
mind at a ratio about sixteen to one over gold,
that the price should reflect That says there's a lot
going on with paper contracts and manipulation. In my opinion,
so that makes sense to me.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Not only that, not only that it's geologically Travis is
geologically seventeen. Supposedly, this ratio makes no sense unless you're
talking about a systemic manipulation or accumulating. I think this
is one of the reasons if you want to speculate
(16:24):
on why what happened to the hot family in the
nineteen seventies. They were able to drive silver to fifty
two dollars and fifty cents an ounce in nineteen eighty,
which again that'd be about two hundred and eight dollars today,
something like that. Maybe more. They were punished, they were
deep stated, they were you know, their fortune was smashed
(16:48):
by the oligarchs and the ruling class because they exposed something.
In my opinion, they exposed something that was terribly wrong
with the dollar. Most people didn't understand because we weren't
even allowed to own golf past nineteen thirty three. That
wasn't you know, the gold coins had come out of circulation.
We still had the silver dollars until, you know, running
through the system until about nineteen sixty five, and people
(17:10):
started taking a notice of that and said, oh, you know,
I'm going to save these and they went, you know,
it's Gresham's law when bad money enters the system and
good money goes into hiding. And I think at that time,
when we see you know, the departure from you know,
having any sort of basis of your currency and then
(17:30):
Nixon taking us off the gold standard, people were kind
of sleep walking into that and then it's inflation kicked in,
and you had the oil embargos and then all the
rest of that. And by the time you know, the
end of the nineteen seventies, and I'm sure your dad
remembers this, well, you had Jimmy Carter and they had
terms malaise and all this stuff. People were looking around,
well what is wrong? And then silver is hitting the
(17:51):
fifty two dollars. You know, it used to be a dollar.
You know, it used to be or even actually you know,
announce wasn't necessarily a dollar because every bit of three
nineteen sixty five US currency travels, whether it's ten dimes,
whether it's four quarters or a half dollar, or two
half dollars and a dollar, it all has the same
(18:13):
amount of silver. So two half dollars and one dollar,
same thing, ten dimes, same amount of silver. It's point
seventy three five ounces, So that wasn't even an ounce
of silver, right well for a dollar. So I think
at the end of the day, this is the historical
trend that we're in right now. There's a I think
(18:35):
a need for people to understand the economic and monetary system,
and I think they're waking up to that there's a
lot of I mean, because of what happened with the
runaway inflation post twenty twenty and the lockdowns and the
liquidity injections. I think with the emergence of bricks and
everything else that goes along with that, there is a
(18:56):
rise in consciousness on what money is. I can find,
I mean numerous new podcasts and things that are going
on that weren't around five years ago, drafts that talk
about things like bitcoin, gold, you know, other monetary issues
that weren't there. Just the question of money itself is
a much bigger, I think, mainstay in people's minds. Now.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, there's a general sense of unease about the economy.
People have this sense that things just aren't right. The
dollar's not safe like it used to be. We have
Shelley A says. The Brick's website twenty twenty five reads
like the un sustainable development goals. H The Bricks aren't
necessarily a group of good guys. You know, just because
(19:44):
they're not playing along with America's bligerency doesn't mean they're
good guys themselves. It's a I don't think there's really
any good players on the world stage at that level.
I think as a general rule.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
For the record, I'm not rooting for britt I'm not
rooting for any of these other nations. I love my country,
but I I have to call out what I think
is absolute stupidity. If we wanted to get this nation
really booming and having you know, economic prosperity, we would
have other policies, we would be intent advising. You know,
(20:21):
we haven't done that in a long You you can
tell the game is rigged because if you really wanted
to make the United States lead the world and everything,
you just do away with the income tex just do
away with it. You know, you could just abolish that
and then you know, no corporate income tax, no individual
income tax. You could argue that then there's no need
for terraces because people just move here and build here
(20:44):
in the in this in this climate. Geopolitically, you know,
other massive investment would pour in, infrastructure would pour in.
But we don't do that. And that's for a reason.
And your dad's talked about this. You know you have
because you have to have a graduated income text because
Karl Marx said so, and that's what you know. The
World Economic Forum or Davos make sure that you sign
(21:08):
on to that, and I think there's certain you know,
treaties and you know understanding that we got to have
this no matter what, we got to have some sort
of graduated income tax to make sure that people can't
ever get out of their economic you know, pre subscribed places.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yeah, we have a comment here. Angry Tiger's Den says
tariffs are sanctions in the American people, sanctions are an
act of war, and that goes in what you're talking about.
Just again, these countries just like, well, if you're going
to do this, we're not going to play anymore. And
like you pointed out, when they were talking about sanctions,
(21:49):
to the beginning, Trump was pulled, you know, pushing that
idea around. Oh yo, and some of his base were saying,
we're gonna he's going to get rid of the income tax.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
He's going to do it.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
He's going to do it completely ignore the fact that
you just said, well, we'll make some of these tax
cuts permanent, Like, well, you don't need a permanent tax cut.
The entire thing is going away now, do you. And
you still see people online talking about how Trump is
going to dismantle the I R S totally and it's
just that they're incapable of connecting the dots here. Just
(22:20):
how gullible are you?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
People?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Come on, it's not it's not.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Those those are Yeah, The I R s and this
income tax system itself was put in place by the
wealthiest people that were alive at the time to make
sure that no one could compete with them. And that's
I will believe that because of my study and looked
into this extensively on it, I don't I don't take
(22:46):
any other explanation because it's the only one that makes
sense to me. Why would you know? Again? And still
you look around today and you think if and it's
funny because the left thinks that they're like, well, the
richer in control, but we also have this weapon against them.
And I'm like, if they're in control, they wouldn't allow
(23:07):
you to have that, all right, they're in control. They're
if they didn't like it, they wouldn't allow it, you understand.
And so it always makes me laughing, like we're going
to tax the rich and whatever, Oh, you're just taxing
yourself and you're making sure that no one could ever compete.
It's it's a rig system. With that, I'll I'll take
this administration seriously, when they start making tax free zones
(23:31):
for you know, the next hundred years. Uh there, you
pay no taxes if you live in Detroit. You want
to rebuild Michigan, you want to turn the economic engine
back on. Make that an edict. I'll you know, you
want to get you know, tough, and you know, put
put an executive order down instead of saying you're going
to put one hundred percent tariff on a nation that
(23:51):
doesn't use the dollar again, make it a for the
next century. You know, you pay no tax whatsoever if
you if you move your business to Detroit. Let's see
see what would happen. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
See that's a that's a simple solution, a good idea
right there, which means that no one in Washington will
ever consider it ever do that right.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
No one will ever do that. No one will ever
do something. That's how you know that it's it's kind
of like James Forrestall told Joe McCarthy. You know, if
they were stupid, then every once in a while they
just err in our favor. But they never do. And
that's how you know it's a conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It always ends up somehow working out good for them
and bad for us. I want to get your opinion
on this article. It says gold prices could double in
five to ten years as investors become skeptical of fiat currencies.
And of course we talked a little bit about this
during the break Off air. But as you pointed out,
gold is it just kind of is the inverse of
(24:46):
whatever the dollar does. As the dollar gets weaker, gold
gets stronger. And so I could I don't see a
reason why this couldn't happen. You know, the dollar is
collapsing every minute as we speak, and as such, yeah,
I definitely could believe that it could drop to half
its value, gold could double again.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Well for sure. Well, I mean goal was thirty five
dollars an ounce in seventy one, and then you know,
by the end of nineteen eighty it was eight hundred
dollars an ounce or somewhere in the nineteen eighties eight
hundred dollars an ounce. And then you fast forward to
and it took some some sell off and some other
things that happened, you know, throughout the nineties, and you know,
(25:26):
there was the stock market era, and it was the
tech boom and all that stuff. Instead, the gold took
a back seat. I remember before I went into my
third four in war, before I was deployed to Iraq,
I was buying. I bought some gold. It was about
three hundred and fifty dollars an ounce. So now it's
almost thirty five hundred dollars an ounce. I think we
have room, even though that was, you know, twenty plus
(25:48):
years ago. But things move faster now, especially when you
know there's an accelerating rate of change, not only because
the historical cycles, but because of the sheer numbers. You know,
you look at them. We mentioned the debt earlier, thirty
seven trillion. That's a number that can never be. It'll
have to be like, they'll have to be a clearing
(26:08):
of it, like in order to function, because you know,
the debt ceilings continue to rise, that the debt will
just start to eat up everything and they have to
do a great reset. They already told you they were
going to do.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
So.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Absolutely, Fiat has no bottom. Gold and silver and bitcoin
have no top because of that. I mean, you're talking
about who dimetrically diametrically opposed ideas. One is finite and
houses energy, the other one is a scam that is infinite,
and we're going to test reality, you know, basic understanding
(26:42):
of how the universe works. If you know something is
more ubiquitous and you know, again just thrown out there
like and created out of nothing, you does the the
human beings find that to be valuable, other than things
like oxygen. I mean, but uh, we find that valuable.
But you know, when it comes to everyday live something
(27:04):
that is absolutely ubiquitous and everywhere, even like information today,
information is ubiquitous and everywhere, I don't think people value
it very much. That is unfortunately they clearly don't because
they're not smarter. That is very true.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Everyone has this general sense of well, you know, if
I need to know something, I can just look it up,
and it stops them from ever really going and researching beforehand.
It's just this continual as I need it mentality. It's
always going to be there, and as such, I have
no reason to seek it out beforehand. I have no
reason to want to go out and learn anything and
better myself. Just you know, well, if I need to
(27:42):
learn how to, you know, put a new battery in
the car, I'll just go google it at the time.
I'll learn how to change my a the time. If
I feel the need. There's not this sense of desire
to accumulate information or knowledge or figure out things. It's
just this, it's available. I don't need it. Who cares?
Someone else already has that information and I can get
that at my fingertips if necessary. And I know that
(28:04):
you've talked about things like this. We got this headline
here gold is a key strategic investment despite US resilience
and bitcoins rise, but you've been pointing out that both
gold and silver. People are investing in the hard assets.
It's back and you know, like you said the Russia story,
how they're stocking up on silver. People are not just
(28:26):
crypto's big but countries are moving more towards these metals.
They're putting them back on the books, and that should
definitely be assigned to people as well. It's you know,
as personally, I think, you know, the countries generally tend
to do what's going to favor the government. And if
the government is stacking gold and silver, it says something.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh it does. I mean, that's the central banks are
buying gold, the governments are putting gold into their strategic
reserve assets, and the things like silver. But that's you know,
commodities Timber. I saw an article where, you know, certain
African countries are you know, building like a currency model
back by minerals and other things that are you know,
(29:15):
it could be gold, could be silver, could be diamonds,
putting those together to create a stable currency. Because the
era of FIAT is you know, Zimbabwe, it's the trillion
dollar note, and the United States is continuing to double, triple,
quadruple down on sanctions and other think it's driving these
countries away into the arms of bricks and those systems.
(29:38):
And you can see with the Belton Road initiative and
what China's done, playing a very smart long game looking
for rare minerals commodities in an age of you know,
the end of FIAT and and to something else, which
I think that's going to be the order of the day.
A lot of the bubbles that are in the stock
markets and other things around the world that will be
(29:59):
the it will be a reckoning eventually.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, it's just well, maybe slightly outside my own lifetime,
but borderline within my lifetime. We've had both Zimbabwe and
Venezuela and both of them have had just runaway currency collapse.
And it's funny to me that more people didn't look
at that and go, well, what what makes their economy
so different from ours? Why can't that happen here? And
(30:23):
the truth is really nothing that just the fact that
the American government has had more pull on the global stage,
that it's more powerful, the Federal Reserve has some slightly
smarter people that are able to manipulate things a little
bit better for their own advantages. But the truth is
there's nothing that stops a Venezuela or Zimbabwe scenario from
(30:45):
playing out, because that is the natural end state of
these currencies. And the fact that more people haven't looked
at it and gone huh has always kind of shocked me.
You know a lot of people just look at money
and they go, well, you know, it's money's weird. You know,
it's just these pieces of paper, and they have a
general sense that the dollar is this kind of phony system,
(31:07):
but they don't go all the way with it. They
don't fully think about what that actually implies. And again,
just it's all ever since I don't know what I
was whenever I figured out when I was younger, there's
always been this slight anxiety in the back of my
mind just well, how long until we are Zimbabwe. When
does that happen? And of course there's no real way
(31:28):
to tell because there's so many different people with their
fingers on the scales and the system is so immensely complex.
But eventually, with as you said, the thirty something trillion
dollars in debt, and some people even put it as
high as one hundred and fifty trillion dollars, it has
to happen. Eventually. There's no way out of this. It's
(31:48):
an astronomical number that's impossible to get rid of.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
And I think it's a low probability that we'd be
something like Zimbabwe or Venezuela, and that's mainly because of
the entrenchment of the dollar around the world. So I'm
not a doomsday or when it says, oh, there's going
to be you know why, myron republic style inflation with
wheelbarrows full of cash by Alon for brand or whatever.
I don't see that. But I do see the massive
(32:16):
amount of change that has to happen in order for
there to be a great reset. A lot of people
can get left behind. There will be massive austerity. The
people are going to get wiped out. They're going to
be a great swath of people that played by the
old rules that are going to lose and lose big time.
So I think there will be a class of people
to do really well. And we've always seen them do well.
(32:37):
That's why I think I think black rock and embrace
a bitcoin and Lenry's thinking those guys. I still have
to hang a question mark over that. Not exactly sure why,
but I think it has something to do with stable Coinstravis.
I think it has something to do with what they
want to build digitally, with the public private partnership of
stable coins and the dollar, kind of a back door
(32:57):
CBDC so they can control, tract and expand the money
supply in real time. I think that will that's ultimately
one of their goals, along with surveillance and other things.
But the economic system will change, not necessarily because there
will be an absolute collapse of the dollar to zero.
It'll be a collapse of the dollar to digital.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, that is their goal. As you've pointed out, my
dad's pointed out, and we've talked about the tracking ability
that comes with stable coins, the ability to shut off
your entire bank account and just completely deprive you of
any ability to pay for things to interact with the
economy at all is what they really want. It comes
with surveillance, it comes with debanking built in. It's the
(33:42):
ultimate tool for them. I know we're just about out
of time. You've already stayed ten minutes over. We've got
a few more comments that I'd like to get through.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
If you're up for it, got it.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Fantastic, Dougalug says the goldback is a great idea, easy
to collect and easy to use for barter, just like silver.
And of course you have been putting people onto the
gold backs for quite a few years now.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I love gold backs. It gives you because the gold
has gotten so expensive, I can't put it. And we
used to be able to almost we fit a gram
of gold for a limited time back well first started
both back into the Warrior Wolves at one twenty five.
I can't do that any It's the cost is almost
(34:27):
that so we can't do that. So gold backs makes
it a lot easier for people to get some actual
twenty four current you know gold, and those are those
notes that they use gold. Gold's very valuable. I think
you can take I was reading something that every day
I try to look up a gold fact, but I
think you can take an ounce of gold, and because
(34:47):
gold is so valeable, you can you can spin an
ounce of gold out about fifty miles with one single
thread something like that. It's an amazing medal. Yeah, it's
it's an amazing medal with how much elasticity it has
and amaleability. It has very very interesting metal. It's really
nothing like it. So that's where they were able to
make those kind of notes, and we put those in
(35:10):
the gold notes, the gold backs. We put them in
the Warrior wolves at one twenty five and the loans
and even in the kid's wolf cups. It's a gold back.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And that's another reason you should go to David Knight
dot gold and start getting some for yourself. Tunnel Lord
when three to three seven says, if we really wanted
to revive the economy, we would be removing all the
unconstitutional regulations on every aspect of our lives that would
immediately reduce the price of things. Additionally, should allow private
banks to make their own fiat so Americans can stop
using the dollar that is devalued each year. It was
(35:44):
a you're here when my family and I went to
China to adopt my sister. When we were in Hong Kong.
They allowed each bank to issue their own currency, so
you would you have just a mish mash, a collection
of random different bills with different colors and fields and
people on them. And it was very interesting to see.
(36:04):
And their economy was booming. They were doing just fine.
And DJ eight says, can you ask Tony about x RP.
It's been pointed out to me it's the only crypto
that is a business partner with the World Economic Forum.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I don't own any XRP, and I've looked into it.
I'm sure I could have made money off of it.
Somebody will. I on a few different cryptos, and that's
from like a relic of five years ago. I'm mainly
just buy bitcoin. That's the only crypto that I really
believe in at this time. And it's not that some
(36:40):
others aren't good, like there's some privacy coins I like,
but just economically and the way that I run my business,
I use a bitcoin. XRP will do something. I mean,
they're funneling it into the system as a clearing currency,
like between banks, and there's some interesting technology that I'm
not against. Other cryptos I don't like. I'm not a
(37:03):
total bitcoin maximist, where I think that every other coin
is garbage. I just know my wheelhouse. I stick with that,
so I'm I'm bitcoin only right now. But that's certainly
I mean, it's I watched the price of it. I
you know, I hold some for a customer of mind,
so I'd look at the you know, the app every day,
so I see the price going, and it has fluctuated
(37:24):
back up. I think it was over three bucks rex
rp the other day. Down a little bit today maybe,
But yeah, it's something to watch. They're definitely integrating that
with the system like this, Like you talked about the
world Actionomic forums and they're gonna they're gonna, you know,
use other cryptos and Ethereum will be one of those
that they use as well.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, they're they're digging their hooks into the digital realm.
They're worming their way in, and there's that's one of
those things. No matter what system you implement, these people
will try to find a way into it doesn't matter
how perfectly you build it. Eventually someone will find a
way to exploit it. But some are better than others,
(38:06):
and they're worth looking into. They're worth getting outside of
the Fiat dollar as much as you can is always
a good idea in my opinion. Well, Tony, I want
to thank you for being on the show. I want
to thank you for hosting the show tomorrow. In case
people are just tuning in, Tony Arderburn will be hosting
the David Knight Show tomorrow. And as you pointed out,
it is the anniversary of you said, Nixon taking us
(38:27):
off the gold standard, right or yeah, off the gold standard.
So it's a fortuitous event. We didn't plan it that way,
but that's how it works out. And you've got a
show coming up after this, So let the people know
where they can find you.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Tony. You can find me. My website is Tony dot
gold if you want to go find my website all
my shows and links to everything that I do. And yeah,
we'll be live over on the America Unplug channel, on
Rumble and on my ex at Tony Arderburn you'll find us.
There will be twelve pm Eastern eleven am Central time
(39:01):
going live.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Fantastic all of you, go check out Tony and go
to David Knight dot gold get yourself some gold or
silver again, Tony, thank you for that, and thank you
for being on the show. It's always a pleasure to
talk with you really do appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Same do you mind.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
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I mean now is Tony Ardeburn of Wise Wolf Gold
and you go to David Knight dot Gold if you'd
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or silver. You can do both or one or the other.
Tony has many different options available. Thank you for joining
us today, Tony.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
That's great to be back. Good to see you.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
True, it's always a pleasure, and I want to let
the audience know that Tony will be hosting the show tomorrow.
We are going to start our reconstruction first, our destruction
and reconstruction of the studio. So Tony has graciously volunteered
to take over the show so that we can have
an extra day to work on that. Really do appreciate that.
On wise this would be it's already going to be
(00:44):
a monumental task, but hopefully the extra day will buy
us the time we need. But yes, you can look
forward to Tony Ardeburn hosting the David Night Show tomorrow,
so tune in for that. I want to what's foremost
on your mind to start, Tony, what would you like
to start with? Get your assessment?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Just the research. Lately on the we talked off air
about the increase and the money supply, and you see
that the President Trump really pushing right now, even with
threatening a lawsuit. It's tombout unprecedented waters. I think that's
also a big tell on how the system works, that
the President of the United States is like threatening a
(01:23):
lawsuit again, better reserve chair and not just replace them
because it didn't have the power to do that. I
mean technically, I think I think the the push to
increase the money supply to create a weaker dollar for
the illusion really of economic strength, and that's that's what
they wanted, that sugar high of you know, liquidity and
(01:47):
currency being pumped into the system, which does create a
temporary boon. But then we have the same problems that
we always have. We have inflation, run away inflation, you
have economic downturns, you have bubbles, you have you know,
decline and prosperity and all the stuff that comes with
a bust after a boom. So I'm looking at the
(02:08):
big picture still, I mean, that's my wheelhouse and where
I go to. And you look at the response from India, Travis,
You look at what they're doing right now because of
the tariffs that were placed on them, and even the
thread of other economic sanctions with their ties to China,
they're moving closer to China. So Bricks is it's like
(02:30):
almost a self fulfilling prophecy. We've done nothing to invite
the world to do business with us, done nothing. We're
actually pushing people away. This is the most isolationist policy
I've ever seen. And by the way, I mean I've
talked about this many times with your dad and you.
I'm an economic nationalist. I want tariffs, I love that,
(02:52):
but we're not playing that game. We're playing something totally different.
And I just like to be clear for the record,
I might even have to abandon than what I used
to believe about economic nationalism and policy because it's clearly
this is some fun house mirror version of that. So
you have these threats of tariffs and ricks Slowly, actually
(03:16):
not slowly, that's probably an incorrect description. Rix is growing
and they're solidifying their economic ties. You're talking about what's
the population population of India and China together? What is
that abo almost half of humanity getting together. You add
(03:38):
the other Bricks nations into that, and the dedollarization and
the payment systems that they're creating, and it's just spells
disaster for US economic policy. We're doing nothing to stop
that and everything to increase. I think the search for
things like commodities rare with minerals, gold and finite items commodities.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, the uh. I've said it before, But the time
of America being able to just swagger into the room
and say this is how it's gonna be, this is
how we're doing things. You're gonna do what we say
or else are done. There's other world powers out there
that have economies of scale that can be interacted with.
They don't no longer have to bow and scrape before America.
(04:27):
They can interact with each other and not have to
worry about dealing with our belligerent foreign policy. It's like,
all right, well, if you're gonna play that game, we'll
simply choose not to play. And Donald Trump doesn't seem
to realize that he you know, if he was the president,
you know, say fifty sixty years ago or maybe a
little bit longer, when America's at the height of its
(04:47):
economic power, but he could probably get away with this
kind of thing. People go like, all right, yeah, it sucks,
but what are you gonna do. It's America. But those
days are gone. And as you said, bricks is you know,
they're growing stronger, they're solidifying their relationships, and as you
pointed out, we're simply driving them further and further away.
(05:08):
Got a comment here from KWD sixty eight says silver
and gold both are up about two and a half
times in the last ten years. People talk about silver underperforming,
but it has gained. It's a hedge and something to hold.
And of course I know you're big on silver, and
I like silver as well. When I have extra cash,
if I ever do, I need to start accumulating more
(05:30):
of it. But it's just it's a good store and
it hasn't run away like gold has. Gold is definitely
one of those things where it's hard to accumulate for
the average person. You of course offer the you know,
very small grams and things of it, but even that
I assume is you know, getting more expensive and probably
(05:52):
harder to source.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Oh. Absolutely, the Combe bars, you know, the one hundred
grand bars that come in a pack. We're able to
break that off and save people a little bit of premium.
Those are harder and harder to source. And it is
interesting you know that the fractional gold is being swallowed
up right now and silver as you mentioned earlier, and
that for the average person, just getting a little bit
(06:17):
of silver is pretty easy. You know, you can still
do that the price and I think this is a
blessing in disguise. A lot of people get frustrated with
the price of silver because it never did this, you know,
parabolic take you know, up into the right price, go
up forever, number go up. It hasn't done that, and
I think that's for accumulation reasons. That's a lot of
(06:38):
the big banks, you know, JP Morgan obviously the largest
holder physical hold of silver in the world private they've
been convicted of suppressing the Fronce something they like to accumulate.
They suppress the price they hold it. But I think
that game has changed Travis with silver, and you can
see that with with Russia adding it as a strategic
(06:59):
reserve st I think that is probably one of the
most important stories on silver in the last fifty years.
I think this will be a bigger story than the
Hunt family in the nineteen seventies. I think just that
Russia leading the way and again Russia's relation to bricks
(07:20):
the entire chessboard economically, if I look at it it's
a race for rare minerals. It's a race for commodities.
The era of FIAT and we're about tomorrow is Hey,
it's fortuitous because I get to host on the anniversary
of Nixon taking us off the gold standard nineteen seventy one,
August fifteenth. Since that time, August fifteenth, nineteen seventy one,
(07:42):
we've been in a real time experiment. And that experiment's
coming to a close. It doesn't mean that they won't
use FIAT necessarily, but it's going to go to a digitized,
tokenized system, as we were seeing through the Genius Act
and stable coins and the things like that. But as
far as just the standard, you know, canesyan model of
(08:03):
increase the money supply, you know, and inflate the bubble.
We just hit thirty seven trillion dollars in debt yesterday,
as a matter of fact, I mean it was that's
a milestone. That doesn't even count the unfunded liability. So
the United States is bankrupt on paper, it's bankrupt. It's
bankrupt foreign policy as a bankrupt economic policy. And we
(08:25):
know that, I mean, anybody. They don't talk about it
anymore because you can't do anything about it I mean
used to. I mean there was a time perhaps you know,
in a quaint time in the mid nineties, when you
could see that, oh, we have a we have a resolution,
and there's a contract for America and all this stuff,
and then you got the debt clock stops and there's
a surplus. Remember that they actually had this thing, They
(08:46):
had a surplus. It sounds silly now, but that the
debt was around four trillion, you know, three and a
half four trillion at that time, and then now it's
thirty seven trillion. So you know, the wheels are off
on that. There's a lot of change on the horizon.
And if you see, you know, like the central banks,
they're not going and buying up stocks and accumulating other currencies,
(09:11):
as we've seen with the supplanting of the euro. You know,
the euro used to be usuld be the dollar and
then the euro as far as what was held by
central banks and reserve assets. Now it's the dollar and
then gold. Okay, So it's because the dollar is easy
to trade. It's still that, you know, it's a somewhat
(09:31):
stable currency system, but that's being replaced and we're accelerating
the policies of this country are accelerating that. So I
think the big story here is the race towards commodities,
the abandoning of the Fiat system post nineteen seventy one,
and the great reset, which is they tell you they're
going to do it and we're right in the middle
(09:52):
of it.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Earlier in the show, we were talking about some articles saying, yo, old,
older Americans are deciding that buying a home just you know,
simply doesn't fit their budget anymore. They're deciding they think
they'd rather rent, just like. Yeah, I wonder why that is.
Could it be because they've been priced out of it?
Could it be because inflation has gone through the roof
and the cost of everything has you know, doubled or
tripled over the years. Now they're painting it as oh,
(10:16):
they just decided you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
But people aren't happy yet. I haven't worked that part
out yet. They're working towards the own nothing, they seem
to be really good at that. It's the happiness thing
they're struggling with.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well that you saw the you know, black rock, especially
after COVID nineteen eighty four and the big liquidity push
that came in after that, and you know, everybody was
locked down, you're not essential, and they came in and
started buying giant swaths of houses. They're using all that
all those funds that were pumped into the system to
buy up the real estate, and of course it continued
(10:52):
to artificially keep the prices high, so we didn't have
a housing correction or natural housing cycles. And the reason
that housing prices are the way they are is because
of the loss of purchasing power in the dollar. And
I think at the end of the day, it's it
is a bubble. You know, there's only so many houses,
there's only so much real estate, and you know, you
(11:12):
place that value and then every time you create a
home loan Travis, it creates currency. It's not like they're
take it from a reserve. It's like, okay, well we've
got so much in the deposits, so we're gonna lend
you this and then you can buy this house. That's
not how that works, create new currency. So every time
that that inflates the bubble that we're on that system
right now, and that is I think people are smart
(11:34):
right now to be skeptical about getting into the housing market.
I've I've been doing. I've I have the ability to
do a Vielaw and I just kind of sit back
and could do it, but I just don't, and I'm wondering,
I don't know if I see the advantage of getting in.
It's like that prices are too high, you know, I don't.
(11:55):
I don't. I don't look at it as an advantage.
And you know, you can argue about whether a home
homes an asset or not. But that's where a lot
of you know, people have been able to park their
energy and their savings into the equity of their home
in the past, and we're seeing that system come apart.
It becomes easier. I read an article a few weeks
(12:18):
ago on my show from Bitcoin Magazine and they were saying,
the younger people are just looking at digital assets and
digital territory in real estate. And you could say the
same thing for you know, if you can't, if you're
not able to get into a house, you've got to
have somewhere to house and you know, your savings and
other things, so that would be you know, physical gold
(12:40):
and silver would be another way to do that, you know,
physical assets that I think that's going to be a
big wave of the future when people are continue to
be priced out of these out of houses, and I
do think we'll have a correction, but even still, it's
it's going to be I think, out of reach for
a lot of people, and the economic strategies because of
the jobs that aren't there.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, the economy is not the same as it was.
You know, there used to be a time where you
could you could get a factory job and support an
entire family on one income working at a factory, and
those days are generally long gone. You basically need a
two person household, two people working to support a singular child.
(13:21):
If you have more than one child, it becomes a
bit of a stretch. We've got Epstein Island and Chat
says silver is thirty eight dollars and three cents today,
And Steve Evs would like to know what should silver
be at if they weren't suppressing things, if they weren't
holding it down, What do you think silver would be at.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I think that we see a minimum of one hundred
dollars now, I think the true valuation of silver. And
it is kind of a silly thing to look at too.
When you look at the charts of wealth and the
so called wealth in the world, and you have these
big blocks of you know, hundreds of trillions, and it's
like a five hundred trillion dollar economy or something like that,
(14:06):
with sovereign weals, funds and currencies and stock markets. And
then silver has a one point seven trillion dollar market
cap out of hundreds of trillions. And you know, silver
was always considered a monetary metal throughout human history, but
it's only you know again one point seven trillion or
whatever it is against the hundreds of trillions that are
(14:29):
supposedly you know, assets in the world. I don't buy that.
It's a two hundred million ounce plus deficit a year
on silver. So like everything that's demanded from the mining
and production they have to take from the above ground supply,
it's two hundred million plus ounces a year, and that's
just only increasing. And I think that so that the
(14:51):
true price was a minimum one hundred and then if
you look at you know, you just take the gold
price and divide by sixteen, you know, so whatever that is,
whatever that is today, it's like, you know, thirty, let's
see what the spot price is right now. A spot
price that, as according to gold price don work, is
thirty three forty five on gold, So should we should
(15:15):
we do the math, Travis, we do a sixteen to
one ratio and see if we can make that in
real time. See if I can pull it off. Let's
see it's thirty three forty and we divide that by sixteen.
That puts if we if we're going by the metrics
by the founding fathers of the United States of America
and some of the smartest men ever live to put
(15:36):
an economic system together, h silver was sixteen to one,
So that makes it two hundred and eight dollars.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, we actually had KWD sixty eight in chat said
before you even did that. Some argue that since silver's
mind at a ratio about sixteen to one over gold,
that the price should reflect That says there's a lot
going on with paper contracts and manipulation. In my opinion,
so that makes sense to me.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Not only that, not only that it's geologically Travis is
geologically seventeen. Supposedly, this ratio makes no sense unless you're
talking about a systemic manipulation or accumulating. I think this
is one of the reasons if you want to speculate
(16:24):
on why what happened to the hot family in the
nineteen seventies. They were able to drive silver to fifty
two dollars and fifty cents an ounce in nineteen eighty,
which again that'd be about two hundred and eight dollars today,
something like that. Maybe more. They were punished, they were
deep stated, they were you know, their fortune was smashed
(16:48):
by the oligarchs and the ruling class because they exposed something.
In my opinion, they exposed something that was terribly wrong
with the dollar. Most people didn't understand because we weren't
even allowed to own golf past nineteen thirty three. That
wasn't you know, the gold coins had come out of circulation.
We still had the silver dollars until, you know, running
through the system until about nineteen sixty five, and people
(17:10):
started taking a notice of that and said, oh, you know,
I'm going to save these and they went, you know,
it's Gresham's law when bad money enters the system and
good money goes into hiding. And I think at that time,
when we see you know, the departure from you know,
having any sort of basis of your currency and then
(17:30):
Nixon taking us off the gold standard, people were kind
of sleep walking into that and then it's inflation kicked in,
and you had the oil embargos and then all the
rest of that. And by the time you know, the
end of the nineteen seventies, and I'm sure your dad
remembers this, well, you had Jimmy Carter and they had
terms malaise and all this stuff. People were looking around,
well what is wrong? And then silver is hitting the
(17:51):
fifty two dollars. You know, it used to be a dollar.
You know, it used to be or even actually you know,
announce wasn't necessarily a dollar because every bit of three
nineteen sixty five US currency travels, whether it's ten dimes,
whether it's four quarters or a half dollar, or two
half dollars and a dollar, it all has the same
(18:13):
amount of silver. So two half dollars and one dollar,
same thing, ten dimes, same amount of silver. It's point
seventy three five ounces, So that wasn't even an ounce
of silver, right well for a dollar. So I think
at the end of the day, this is the historical
trend that we're in right now. There's a I think
(18:35):
a need for people to understand the economic and monetary system,
and I think they're waking up to that there's a
lot of I mean, because of what happened with the
runaway inflation post twenty twenty and the lockdowns and the
liquidity injections. I think with the emergence of bricks and
everything else that goes along with that, there is a
(18:56):
rise in consciousness on what money is. I can find,
I mean numerous new podcasts and things that are going
on that weren't around five years ago, drafts that talk
about things like bitcoin, gold, you know, other monetary issues
that weren't there. Just the question of money itself is
a much bigger, I think, mainstay in people's minds. Now.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, there's a general sense of unease about the economy.
People have this sense that things just aren't right. The
dollar's not safe like it used to be. We have
Shelley A says. The Brick's website twenty twenty five reads
like the un sustainable development goals. H The Bricks aren't
necessarily a group of good guys. You know, just because
(19:44):
they're not playing along with America's bligerency doesn't mean they're
good guys themselves. It's a I don't think there's really
any good players on the world stage at that level.
I think as a general rule.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
For the record, I'm not rooting for britt I'm not
rooting for any of these other nations. I love my country,
but I I have to call out what I think
is absolute stupidity. If we wanted to get this nation
really booming and having you know, economic prosperity, we would
have other policies, we would be intent advising. You know,
(20:21):
we haven't done that in a long You you can
tell the game is rigged because if you really wanted
to make the United States lead the world and everything,
you just do away with the income tex just do
away with it. You know, you could just abolish that
and then you know, no corporate income tax, no individual
income tax. You could argue that then there's no need
for terraces because people just move here and build here
(20:44):
in the in this in this climate. Geopolitically, you know,
other massive investment would pour in, infrastructure would pour in.
But we don't do that. And that's for a reason.
And your dad's talked about this. You know you have
because you have to have a graduated income text because
Karl Marx said so, and that's what you know. The
World Economic Forum or Davos make sure that you sign
(21:08):
on to that, and I think there's certain you know,
treaties and you know understanding that we got to have
this no matter what, we got to have some sort
of graduated income tax to make sure that people can't
ever get out of their economic you know, pre subscribed places.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yeah, we have a comment here. Angry Tiger's Den says
tariffs are sanctions in the American people, sanctions are an
act of war, and that goes in what you're talking about.
Just again, these countries just like, well, if you're going
to do this, we're not going to play anymore. And
like you pointed out, when they were talking about sanctions,
(21:49):
to the beginning, Trump was pulled, you know, pushing that
idea around. Oh yo, and some of his base were saying,
we're gonna he's going to get rid of the income tax.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
He's going to do it.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
He's going to do it completely ignore the fact that
you just said, well, we'll make some of these tax
cuts permanent, Like, well, you don't need a permanent tax cut.
The entire thing is going away now, do you. And
you still see people online talking about how Trump is
going to dismantle the I R S totally and it's
just that they're incapable of connecting the dots here. Just
(22:20):
how gullible are you?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
People?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Come on, it's not it's not.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Those those are Yeah, The I R s and this
income tax system itself was put in place by the
wealthiest people that were alive at the time to make
sure that no one could compete with them. And that's
I will believe that because of my study and looked
into this extensively on it, I don't I don't take
(22:46):
any other explanation because it's the only one that makes
sense to me. Why would you know? Again? And still
you look around today and you think if and it's
funny because the left thinks that they're like, well, the
richer in control, but we also have this weapon against them.
And I'm like, if they're in control, they wouldn't allow
(23:07):
you to have that, all right, they're in control. They're
if they didn't like it, they wouldn't allow it, you understand.
And so it always makes me laughing, like we're going
to tax the rich and whatever, Oh, you're just taxing
yourself and you're making sure that no one could ever compete.
It's it's a rig system. With that, I'll I'll take
this administration seriously, when they start making tax free zones
(23:31):
for you know, the next hundred years. Uh there, you
pay no taxes if you live in Detroit. You want
to rebuild Michigan, you want to turn the economic engine
back on. Make that an edict. I'll you know, you
want to get you know, tough, and you know, put
put an executive order down instead of saying you're going
to put one hundred percent tariff on a nation that
(23:51):
doesn't use the dollar again, make it a for the
next century. You know, you pay no tax whatsoever if
you if you move your business to Detroit. Let's see
see what would happen. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
See that's a that's a simple solution, a good idea
right there, which means that no one in Washington will
ever consider it ever do that right.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
No one will ever do that. No one will ever
do something. That's how you know that it's it's kind
of like James Forrestall told Joe McCarthy. You know, if
they were stupid, then every once in a while they
just err in our favor. But they never do. And
that's how you know it's a conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It always ends up somehow working out good for them
and bad for us. I want to get your opinion
on this article. It says gold prices could double in
five to ten years as investors become skeptical of fiat currencies.
And of course we talked a little bit about this
during the break Off air. But as you pointed out,
gold is it just kind of is the inverse of
(24:46):
whatever the dollar does. As the dollar gets weaker, gold
gets stronger. And so I could I don't see a
reason why this couldn't happen. You know, the dollar is
collapsing every minute as we speak, and as such, yeah,
I definitely could believe that it could drop to half
its value, gold could double again.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Well for sure. Well, I mean goal was thirty five
dollars an ounce in seventy one, and then you know,
by the end of nineteen eighty it was eight hundred
dollars an ounce or somewhere in the nineteen eighties eight
hundred dollars an ounce. And then you fast forward to
and it took some some sell off and some other
things that happened, you know, throughout the nineties, and you know,
(25:26):
there was the stock market era, and it was the
tech boom and all that stuff. Instead, the gold took
a back seat. I remember before I went into my
third four in war, before I was deployed to Iraq,
I was buying. I bought some gold. It was about
three hundred and fifty dollars an ounce. So now it's
almost thirty five hundred dollars an ounce. I think we
have room, even though that was, you know, twenty plus
(25:48):
years ago. But things move faster now, especially when you
know there's an accelerating rate of change, not only because
the historical cycles, but because of the sheer numbers. You know,
you look at them. We mentioned the debt earlier, thirty
seven trillion. That's a number that can never be. It'll
have to be like, they'll have to be a clearing
(26:08):
of it, like in order to function, because you know,
the debt ceilings continue to rise, that the debt will
just start to eat up everything and they have to
do a great reset. They already told you they were
going to do.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
So.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Absolutely, Fiat has no bottom. Gold and silver and bitcoin
have no top because of that. I mean, you're talking
about who dimetrically diametrically opposed ideas. One is finite and
houses energy, the other one is a scam that is infinite,
and we're going to test reality, you know, basic understanding
(26:42):
of how the universe works. If you know something is
more ubiquitous and you know, again just thrown out there
like and created out of nothing, you does the the
human beings find that to be valuable, other than things
like oxygen. I mean, but uh, we find that valuable.
But you know, when it comes to everyday live something
(27:04):
that is absolutely ubiquitous and everywhere, even like information today,
information is ubiquitous and everywhere, I don't think people value
it very much. That is unfortunately they clearly don't because
they're not smarter. That is very true.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Everyone has this general sense of well, you know, if
I need to know something, I can just look it up,
and it stops them from ever really going and researching beforehand.
It's just this continual as I need it mentality. It's
always going to be there, and as such, I have
no reason to seek it out beforehand. I have no
reason to want to go out and learn anything and
better myself. Just you know, well, if I need to
(27:42):
learn how to, you know, put a new battery in
the car, I'll just go google it at the time.
I'll learn how to change my a the time. If
I feel the need. There's not this sense of desire
to accumulate information or knowledge or figure out things. It's
just this, it's available. I don't need it. Who cares?
Someone else already has that information and I can get
that at my fingertips if necessary. And I know that
(28:04):
you've talked about things like this. We got this headline
here gold is a key strategic investment despite US resilience
and bitcoins rise, but you've been pointing out that both
gold and silver. People are investing in the hard assets.
It's back and you know, like you said the Russia story,
how they're stocking up on silver. People are not just
(28:26):
crypto's big but countries are moving more towards these metals.
They're putting them back on the books, and that should
definitely be assigned to people as well. It's you know,
as personally, I think, you know, the countries generally tend
to do what's going to favor the government. And if
the government is stacking gold and silver, it says something.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh it does. I mean, that's the central banks are
buying gold, the governments are putting gold into their strategic
reserve assets, and the things like silver. But that's you know,
commodities Timber. I saw an article where, you know, certain
African countries are you know, building like a currency model
back by minerals and other things that are you know,
(29:15):
it could be gold, could be silver, could be diamonds,
putting those together to create a stable currency. Because the
era of FIAT is you know, Zimbabwe, it's the trillion
dollar note, and the United States is continuing to double, triple,
quadruple down on sanctions and other think it's driving these
countries away into the arms of bricks and those systems.
(29:38):
And you can see with the Belton Road initiative and
what China's done, playing a very smart long game looking
for rare minerals commodities in an age of you know,
the end of FIAT and and to something else, which
I think that's going to be the order of the day.
A lot of the bubbles that are in the stock
markets and other things around the world that will be
(29:59):
the it will be a reckoning eventually.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, it's just well, maybe slightly outside my own lifetime,
but borderline within my lifetime. We've had both Zimbabwe and
Venezuela and both of them have had just runaway currency collapse.
And it's funny to me that more people didn't look
at that and go, well, what what makes their economy
so different from ours? Why can't that happen here? And
(30:23):
the truth is really nothing that just the fact that
the American government has had more pull on the global stage,
that it's more powerful, the Federal Reserve has some slightly
smarter people that are able to manipulate things a little
bit better for their own advantages. But the truth is
there's nothing that stops a Venezuela or Zimbabwe scenario from
(30:45):
playing out, because that is the natural end state of
these currencies. And the fact that more people haven't looked
at it and gone huh has always kind of shocked me.
You know a lot of people just look at money
and they go, well, you know, it's money's weird. You know,
it's just these pieces of paper, and they have a
general sense that the dollar is this kind of phony system,
(31:07):
but they don't go all the way with it. They
don't fully think about what that actually implies. And again,
just it's all ever since I don't know what I
was whenever I figured out when I was younger, there's
always been this slight anxiety in the back of my
mind just well, how long until we are Zimbabwe. When
does that happen? And of course there's no real way
(31:28):
to tell because there's so many different people with their
fingers on the scales and the system is so immensely complex.
But eventually, with as you said, the thirty something trillion
dollars in debt, and some people even put it as
high as one hundred and fifty trillion dollars, it has
to happen. Eventually. There's no way out of this. It's
(31:48):
an astronomical number that's impossible to get rid of.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
And I think it's a low probability that we'd be
something like Zimbabwe or Venezuela, and that's mainly because of
the entrenchment of the dollar around the world. So I'm
not a doomsday or when it says, oh, there's going
to be you know why, myron republic style inflation with
wheelbarrows full of cash by Alon for brand or whatever.
I don't see that. But I do see the massive
(32:16):
amount of change that has to happen in order for
there to be a great reset. A lot of people
can get left behind. There will be massive austerity. The
people are going to get wiped out. They're going to
be a great swath of people that played by the
old rules that are going to lose and lose big time.
So I think there will be a class of people
to do really well. And we've always seen them do well.
(32:37):
That's why I think I think black rock and embrace
a bitcoin and Lenry's thinking those guys. I still have
to hang a question mark over that. Not exactly sure why,
but I think it has something to do with stable Coinstravis.
I think it has something to do with what they
want to build digitally, with the public private partnership of
stable coins and the dollar, kind of a back door
(32:57):
CBDC so they can control, tract and expand the money
supply in real time. I think that will that's ultimately
one of their goals, along with surveillance and other things.
But the economic system will change, not necessarily because there
will be an absolute collapse of the dollar to zero.
It'll be a collapse of the dollar to digital.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, that is their goal. As you've pointed out, my
dad's pointed out, and we've talked about the tracking ability
that comes with stable coins, the ability to shut off
your entire bank account and just completely deprive you of
any ability to pay for things to interact with the
economy at all is what they really want. It comes
with surveillance, it comes with debanking built in. It's the
(33:42):
ultimate tool for them. I know we're just about out
of time. You've already stayed ten minutes over. We've got
a few more comments that I'd like to get through.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
If you're up for it, got it.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Fantastic, Dougalug says the goldback is a great idea, easy
to collect and easy to use for barter, just like silver.
And of course you have been putting people onto the
gold backs for quite a few years now.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I love gold backs. It gives you because the gold
has gotten so expensive, I can't put it. And we
used to be able to almost we fit a gram
of gold for a limited time back well first started
both back into the Warrior Wolves at one twenty five.
I can't do that any It's the cost is almost
(34:27):
that so we can't do that. So gold backs makes
it a lot easier for people to get some actual
twenty four current you know gold, and those are those
notes that they use gold. Gold's very valuable. I think
you can take I was reading something that every day
I try to look up a gold fact, but I
think you can take an ounce of gold, and because
(34:47):
gold is so valeable, you can you can spin an
ounce of gold out about fifty miles with one single
thread something like that. It's an amazing medal. Yeah, it's
it's an amazing medal with how much elasticity it has
and amaleability. It has very very interesting metal. It's really
nothing like it. So that's where they were able to
make those kind of notes, and we put those in
(35:10):
the gold notes, the gold backs. We put them in
the Warrior wolves at one twenty five and the loans
and even in the kid's wolf cups. It's a gold back.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And that's another reason you should go to David Knight
dot gold and start getting some for yourself. Tunnel Lord
when three to three seven says, if we really wanted
to revive the economy, we would be removing all the
unconstitutional regulations on every aspect of our lives that would
immediately reduce the price of things. Additionally, should allow private
banks to make their own fiat so Americans can stop
using the dollar that is devalued each year. It was
(35:44):
a you're here when my family and I went to
China to adopt my sister. When we were in Hong Kong.
They allowed each bank to issue their own currency, so
you would you have just a mish mash, a collection
of random different bills with different colors and fields and
people on them. And it was very interesting to see.
(36:04):
And their economy was booming. They were doing just fine.
And DJ eight says, can you ask Tony about x RP.
It's been pointed out to me it's the only crypto
that is a business partner with the World Economic Forum.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I don't own any XRP, and I've looked into it.
I'm sure I could have made money off of it.
Somebody will. I on a few different cryptos, and that's
from like a relic of five years ago. I'm mainly
just buy bitcoin. That's the only crypto that I really
believe in at this time. And it's not that some
(36:40):
others aren't good, like there's some privacy coins I like,
but just economically and the way that I run my business,
I use a bitcoin. XRP will do something. I mean,
they're funneling it into the system as a clearing currency,
like between banks, and there's some interesting technology that I'm
not against. Other cryptos I don't like. I'm not a
(37:03):
total bitcoin maximist, where I think that every other coin
is garbage. I just know my wheelhouse. I stick with that,
so I'm I'm bitcoin only right now. But that's certainly
I mean, it's I watched the price of it. I
you know, I hold some for a customer of mind,
so I'd look at the you know, the app every day,
so I see the price going, and it has fluctuated
(37:24):
back up. I think it was over three bucks rex
rp the other day. Down a little bit today maybe,
But yeah, it's something to watch. They're definitely integrating that
with the system like this, Like you talked about the
world Actionomic forums and they're gonna they're gonna, you know,
use other cryptos and Ethereum will be one of those
that they use as well.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, they're they're digging their hooks into the digital realm.
They're worming their way in, and there's that's one of
those things. No matter what system you implement, these people
will try to find a way into it doesn't matter
how perfectly you build it. Eventually someone will find a
way to exploit it. But some are better than others,
(38:06):
and they're worth looking into. They're worth getting outside of
the Fiat dollar as much as you can is always
a good idea in my opinion. Well, Tony, I want
to thank you for being on the show. I want
to thank you for hosting the show tomorrow. In case
people are just tuning in, Tony Arderburn will be hosting
the David Knight Show tomorrow. And as you pointed out,
it is the anniversary of you said, Nixon taking us
(38:27):
off the gold standard, right or yeah, off the gold standard.
So it's a fortuitous event. We didn't plan it that way,
but that's how it works out. And you've got a
show coming up after this, So let the people know
where they can find you.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Tony. You can find me. My website is Tony dot
gold if you want to go find my website all
my shows and links to everything that I do. And yeah,
we'll be live over on the America Unplug channel, on
Rumble and on my ex at Tony Arderburn you'll find us.
There will be twelve pm Eastern eleven am Central time
(39:01):
going live.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Fantastic all of you, go check out Tony and go
to David Knight dot gold get yourself some gold or
silver again, Tony, thank you for that, and thank you
for being on the show. It's always a pleasure to
talk with you really do appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Same do you mind.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
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They created common past, track and control us their Commons
project to make sure the commoners own nothing and the
communist future. They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated ordinary.
(39:50):
But each of us has worth and dignity created in
the image of God. That is what we have in
common they want to take away. Their most powerful weapons
are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire to know everything about
us while they hide everything from us. It's time to
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