Thu Episode #2068: 80 Years Later: Living in the Shadow of Hiroshima

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Speaker 1 (00:30):
In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a
revolutionary act. It's the David Knight Show.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
As the clock strikes thirteen, it is Thursday, the seventh
of August, year of Our Lord twenty twenty five. They
we're going to be looking at the trade tirades Zul's
the eightieth anniversary of Hiroshima. Also be speaking with Tony
Ardeburn and we have new David Knight. That's right, he
did an interview with Pastor Chuck Baldwin. It's a packed
show today and you don't want to miss it.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Stay with us.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Good morning and welcome to the show. Everyone. Hope you're
having a good Thursday so far. As I said, we
have new David Knight. It's an interview with Pastor Chuck
Baldwin and we'll be playing that for you in the
third hour, so get excited for that. And of course
we'll be talking with Tony Rterburn today, going to get
his sense of what's going on with the tariffs and

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what's happening at the Golden Silver Market. Now, wherever you're
watching this, please drop a l like on the stream
or if you're listening to the podcast afterwards, please can
share there as well. I think we're going to start
out with this bit of news though, The Howard Stern
Show to be canceled after nearly twenty years on Serious XM.

(02:52):
My dad all I could say was finally said, the
iconic Howard Stern Show on Sirius XMSID to be canceled
after a stunning twenty year run. My dad says, nothing
but filth, depravity, and debauchery. I've never actually listened to
the Howard Stern Show. It was completely uninteresting to me. Stern,

(03:13):
seventy one, who's had Megabucks contract for decades the subscription
satellite radio provider, will likely cut some sort of deal
for Serious to keep his catalog upon his exit. Sources said,
wasn't that wonderful? You can still listen to him. This
is the guy who made his entire career off being edgy,
being counterculture, being the one that tells you don't trust anyone.
At least that's from seems like to me. No, I'm cool,

(03:38):
I'm edgy. Oh COVID comes around, you gotta wear the mask.
You can't even I'm gonna lock myself in my house.
I'm not gonna talk to him. When you haven't had
the vaccine, you don't wearing a mask, You're not gonna
come near me. You should be forced to get a vaccine.
You should be forced to wear a mask. That's what
we need to do.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
And of course when we see these propaganda p suits
like Late Night and these talk radio pillars disappearing, it
really begs the question of where the propaganda effort is
moving too. You know, it's they aren't just gonna stop propaganda's.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
It's a moving to places like TikTok and YouTube. Guys
like Dean Withers or that Parker kid, these losers. If
any of you have seen either of those guys, you'll
know exactly how obnoxious they are. There's an entirely new
generation of leftists that they're using to propagandize people. They're

(04:34):
not on the mainstream news sites anymore, they just make
appearances there. But Howard Stern, as I said, made his
career being edgy, being depraved and obsessed with sex. And
then of course, immediately as soon as COVID came around,

(04:56):
coward in his house, immediately dropped all that. No, not
the bad boy of radio, just a coward, a simpering coward.
Oh big Daddy, Government, please protect me. What a loser,
pathetic loser. He wasn't an edgy guy. He just played

(05:20):
one on TV apparently, And of course we saw in
later years he had what it started to become referred
to as troll's remorse a little bit. These guys that
you know, they were edgy and crude, and they got
to make all the dirty jokes and the racist jokes
they wanted to in their time. But you know now,

(05:41):
well we've moved past that. I made my money doing it,
but I don't think it's appropriate for you to do
anything like that, and if you do, I'll condemn you
for it. I think that's one of the most obnoxious
things we've seen in recent years. We see it happen
very frequently. It's called remorse. Serious and Stern are never

(06:03):
going to meet a meat on the money he's going
to want. It's no longer worth the investment. Why would
anyone care about Howard Stern in the modern age. The
last thing he did is completely Newter himself proved that
he was never, never the edgy guy he pretended to be,

(06:23):
never had any principles. But as far as him coming
back doing the show, there's no way they can keep
paying his salary. This, of course, is what we see happening.
They're not profitable anymore. People don't care. He's a relic,
he's he's a fossil of a time gone by. Whatever

(06:46):
he represented, there's other people that do it better, people
that are more high energy, younger guys that you can
watch for free on YouTube or anywhere you can find
a podcast. Of course, Sirious was one of the first companies,
maybe the first company to be run by a tranny CEO.

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Stern rose the fame of the nineteen eighties when you
launched The Howard Stern Show did a twenty year run
with New York City's w xr K, where show first
became nationally syndicated into sixty markets, with twenty million listeners
at its peak. Stern moved over to Sirius XM in
two thousand and six and has been there ever since.
My first cut his teeth as a shock jock discussing
all sorts of taboo topics. Later in his career, Stern

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became known for his in depth celebrity interviews. This is
always one of the things I find funny. Oh, he's
such a good interviewer. He's such a good interviewer. I mean,
one of the key parts, it seems, of being a
good interviewer, not to I'm not saying I'm speaking from
experience or that I have any special insight. It seems

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just like being able to shut up and let the
person talk and not having your studio be sterile and weird.
If you can make the studio comfortable for them to
hang around in and chat in seems that's a bigger
aspect of it.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Well, I mean, look at their examples of his in depth,
hard hitting reporting that they have here in the article.
It's from Lady Gaga opening up about her past drug
addiction to Courtney Coxpot. It's absolute nonsense, Like, why waste
your time on any of this?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, celebrity interviews? Who cares? Goodness? Who watches these things?
Who sits around Like, Yes, I can't wait to listen
to Lady Gaga tell me about her drug addiction. Boy,
what an important legacy he's leaving behind. Heart has been
at serious exemp since, with his contracts estimated to be

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between eighty million one hundred million a year over the
last two decades. Also, stard In was exact to producer's
autobiography blockbuster movie Private Parts, which debuted in nineteen ninety seven.
And again he's paid one hundred million a year so

(09:14):
that people like Lady Gaga can come in and tell
you about their drug addiction. Who cares so long, Howard Stern,
You won't be missed. Your career ends flat KWD sixty eight.
The cultural insanity you know, maybe better than the one

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you don't. Perhaps we've got China making humanoid robots. Well,
China's humanoid robotics index jumps after unitary debut. Stellar Hunter.
This is their new dog. Let's take a look at

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the video. Looking first through a plane, a pane of glass,
it runs right through it. It's doing backflips, front flips.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
You know.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
They call these big robot dogs, but the more you
look at them, the more insect like they seem.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
It's hopping up and down, hopping around on one leg. Ope,
it's going across all kinds of different terrain, rocky and
shale dirt.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
At least they finally get him an accurate name, Stellar Hunter.
They know what these things.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, this isn't going to be used for search and rescue.
It's going to be used to hunt people down. We've
got a guy standing on it and jumping on It's fine,
some large steps.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Again, it's just so creepy the way it.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Moves, and it's descending a very steep staircase. Ultra wide

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light R three D perception. That's right. It's gonna be
very efficient at navigating places to punt you down. Oh look,
I choose for package delivery and when you're hiking, if
you carry an extra bag for you. Oh look, you

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can even put wheels on it. And that's by Unitry.
The sole active China Humanoid Robotics Index, a thematic equity
index tracking Chinese companies involved in the commercialization of humanoid
and robotics technologies, just more than four percent on Wednesday,
after Chinese Robotics from Unitry at least as stunding video
of its new robot dog. Again, they call them robot dogs,

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but they're not very doglike. Aside from the fact that
they have four legs that they put on them. I
don't see any resemblance to dogs at all. This thing
is not going to be man's best friend, not in
the sightiest. It's going to hunt you down. They're going
to put some kind of weapon on this thing. The
main trigger for today's robotic stocks is Unitree is new

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robot dog, robot Dog.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
And I've had in the deck for a while. The
video talking about Disney's bought droids for their Star Wars
Universe thing in Disney World and how they have intentionally
designed it to make it cute. I thought that was
kind of amusing that you know, they're trying to make

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these things look unthreatening, while you know China's out.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
There they do not care. They make this thing very,
very creepy. Chinese robotics from Unitary, arguably the global leader
and affordable consumer grade quadrupeds and robodogs, has just released
footage of its latest machine, the A two Stellar Hunter.
Now what's it going to hunt? They don't specify, but

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I think we might be able to make a guess.
The new Robodog brings flashbacks to Black mirrors infamous twenty
seventeen episode metal Head, where a killer robot dogs stock
and exterminated humans in a post apocalyptic world. Black Mirror
never really watched that. I think I've seen maybe one episode,

(13:59):
maybe I don't even think a full episode. It's another
one of those things where it's like, why would I
watch this. We're going to be living it soon enough.
I don't need you. Well, that's enough about Unitry and
their robot dog. And again, the whole robot dog thing
I think is to put a bray put a friendly

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little face on it, like, well, it's a robot dog,
how bad could it be? I love dogs. Dogs are great.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Here's the videos talking about.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
Little droids are different than other robots I've tested because
they're designed and trained by Disney to be cute, and
that is a surprisingly big deal for the future of robotics.
These droids aren't autonomous. They're operated using this controller, but
I'm not telling it exactly how to do that. The
way that it responds comes from its training. Using ducklings
as inspiration, the engineers created a bunch of animations that

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told these robots how to walk or jumpboard dance. Then
they put digital versions of the robot into a simulation
where they're rewarded for performing those movements and sticking as
close as possible to the original animations. After the robots
get tons of reps in the digital world, they upload
the training to real prototypes, and finally they're ready to
go out into the real world and to see more
of Disney's coolest tech and go watch our.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
Longer video.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah to see more of Disney's coolest tech. I cannot
stand Disney. Everything they have made in the past Yeah,
close to twenty years has been completely worthless, unwatchable, dull.
They are a shadow of their former self. I cannot

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understand how they continue to make money. It does not
make any sense to me. Steve Ebbs, Tony Ardburn and
a real Christian pastor. Chuck Baldwen a great day. Last
time in a voting booth in two thousand and eight,
I voted only for Chuck bald when I haven't voted since. Yeah,
it's going to be a great day. As I said,
the Chuck Balden interview will be in the third hour.

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Will play that out for the end of the show,
so make sure you stick around for that. It will
be uploaded of course, and you'll be able to watch
it on Rumble Odyssey, bitch shoot all the places we
upload to, but stick around check it out. It's going
to be fantastic. North American House Hippo. I got to
see a robot dragon at worked during technical rehearsal. It
is mean to look cute. It is meant to look

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cuter intidor, but I can't help but picture it as
a robot cop. That's where this is all going. Nights
of the storm. What do you feed a robot dog?
Kibbles and bites? But that's pretty good. Active shooter reported
at Fort Stewart Base Airfields. Schools locked down and of

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course we've seen before that these soldiers on the base
are not allowed to carry weapons for their own self defense.
Commander of Fort Stewart has issued a lockdown in the
two abct area of the Fort Stewart including Right and
Evans Army Airfield as well as the Fort Stewart schools.

(16:59):
Law enforcement can there is an active shooter on the scene.
Four people have been taken to the hospital. One suspect
has been identified by law and poor spent Community Superintendent
Brian Perry issued a statement to Kessler Elementary School, Murray
Elementary School, and Diamond Elementary School at treads per DoD alert.
The Commander of Fort Sewart has issued a lockdown. Diamond, Kessler,
Murray schools are all in a lockdown at this time.

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There's no immediate threat to the schools at this time.
We will send a message when it all clear is announced.
So this is what the second shooting at a military
base we've seen in two months. I believe five soldiers
wounded by fellow soldier in shooting at Fort Stewart in Georgia.
Suspect in custody. Officials say the alleged shooter identified as

(17:41):
Sergeant Cornelius Cornelius with a Q was it quor Nelius
Radford was quickly subdued by other soldiers. Reader General John
Lewis told reporters whoever named this guy kuor Nelius, you
are bad parents, bad parents. You put that Q back

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where it belongs, so help me. All five of the
wounded were transported to the hospital in stable condition. Lubis
said three of the soldiers acquired surgery and all are
expected to recover, which we are happy to hear. Lubis
said that Radford used a personal handgun, not a military
issued weapon, because of course, as a general rule, they're

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not allowed to carry on the base. Texas Dems on
the LAMB have three days to return or lose their jobs.
Texas Durningy General Ken Paxson's aid a Friday deadline for
Democratic state lawmakers to return to work in the legislature
or else face removal from office. They really don't want
to come back, Mister Paxton said, it'll ask a court

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to declare vacant in the seats of every House Democrat
who fled the state earlier this week in a bid
to block a gew be planned to redraw congressional district lines. No,
you can't do that. You're not allowed to. The gup
laed Texas House voted Monday to issue civil arrest war
rants for the missing Democrats. Senator John Cornyn as the
FBI to help track down the lawmakers and carry out

(19:05):
the arrests. Try they're going to hunt down these Democrats
and whatever cd heid hole they're in and drag them
back to Texas. Democrats have abandoned their offices by fleeing Texas,
mister Paxton said in a statement, and a failure to
respond to a call of the House constitutes a dereliction
of duty as elected officials. Judge agrees mister Abbitt would

(19:27):
call for a special election to fill the seats, but
the GOP doesn't seem to care too much about the
Islamification that's going on in Texas. We've got to deal
with these Democrats, not being there to vote. Oh, by
the way, the massed immigration of Muslims that are going
to take over the state. The fact they're building their

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own little enclaves not a problem. Who cares? This is
from zero Hedge Watch. Invasion fatigue strikes as Spanish Spanish
the beach goers tackle boat full of illegal migrants. The
people of Europe are getting fed up with this every day.
There's more and more of them. They don't respect the culture,

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they're violent, they don't speak the language. They're continually engaged
in crime. We've seen it in things like the rape
gangs in England. People are fed up. Video of it
a small town in Spain shows beach going locals tackling
and detaining a boatload of illegal immigrants who suddenly washed

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up and attempted to flee in the middle of the day.
The video, shot in the Granada town of Castel difort
di Ferro, shows a boat speedboat pull up on what
is clearly a coordinated trafficking attempt before around a dozen
North Africans jump into the water and begin to swim
to shore and a police were chasing the illegals. Frustrated
Spaniards joined in with several attempting to stop the migrants.

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This is again what is happening all across Europe. The
governments are refusing to do anything about it and not
taking any serious action. The countries are being overrun by
people that will very rapidly destroy them, even if they
aren't actively trying to destroy them, just by the sheer

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nature of the cultures they come from. That's what will happen.
We've got the video.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
These people are called the refugees from these countries, but
they're refugees from crime, and overwhelmingly they are you know,
eight male aged, you know, teen to thirties, the types
of people that are committing the crime in the countries

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that are causing the refugee crisis in the first place.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, let's take a look at the video. Migrian's saying
on a busy tourist speech, you can see the vote
coming in. It is loaded.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Can hit with you men?

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Come here with the boy and they pile out of
the boat, start scurrying away. Okay, And this is happening continually.

(22:29):
This isn't a one time thing. This is almost I
would not be surprised if it was daily. And it's
getting to a point in Europe where just about daily
there'll be a new headline out of England where some
migrant is charged with rape or attempted rape of a

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British girl. That's the future these people have created with
their uncontrolled immigration. They have imported the Third World, and
now these countries are becoming the third World. As I said,
even if these people aren't actively hostile, by the nature
of the fact that they come from a different culture
and don't care about the culture they're moving into, the

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host culture will be destroyed, and of course the infrastructure
as well. They don't have the technical knowledge these skills
are really probably even the ability to learn them, they
won't be able to keep up with it. According to
reports in the Spanish media, while several of the men
were captured, others managed to get away. It is happening

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every day for years in Spain, yet another European country
that has thrown its borders wide open. It has been
invaded by upwards of eight million illegal immigrants in recent years,
and of course these these numbers are all largely guesses.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
There are more videos like the one we played in
this article. I can play if you want to see
more of that.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, it's a we know what's happening. We've maybe rule
one more of them. But this is the type of
thing that happens every single day.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
One season, swimming in lower the value, they swim in
and they take off running.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
They captured these.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
You're not entitled to flee to these countries, you're not
entitled to live in the same spaces. And they jump
off the boat and they just start swimming in. This

(24:55):
is again, this is the future of Europe.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
This is what This is a coordinated effort from you know,
the people driving this boat. Then uh, don't get off
the thing. It's a large group of people that are
pre paying them.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Do they are being ferried of course, we've seen it
also being done with NGOs. This is the planned collapse
of Europe, and it is really the planned collapse of
white countries. It seems to be only white countries where

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this is happening. Not very many people are clamoring to emigrate,
demanding illegally showing up in countries that aren't white, but
packed with over one hundred legal migrants. Hit the beach
near Almera, Spain. This is another one, but again we
showed you multiple videos. This is a continual, ongoing issue.

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It happens over and over again. This is the plan.
This is how they plan to destroy the cultures of
Europe and keep a population there or doing whatever minor
work they need. Also a new population that will beat, abuse,
rape and pillage the European population because these the people

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in charge, despise Europeans. They hate Europe, because Europe is
where the freedom, the freedoms we enjoy today were born
as a general rule, that's where people actually cared about them.
They spend a long time working through them, discussing them,

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and they will do everything they can to erase that history.
And we've got some comments here, KWD. It's all cute
until their eyes turn red talking about the robots nights
to the storm. A robot alligator would be more impressive. Yeah, now,
robot alligator, that would be scary, very scary. Indeed, this

(27:03):
is from zero Hedge, The Dark Side, a big solar exposed.
As the fight to save farmland heats up, they're putting
solar panels, massive solar farms on actual farmland, getting rid
of a lot of land that is actually useful to
convert it into this largely useless solar panel nonsense. When

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my wife and I travel between Texas and Tennessee. We
do a drive, we don't fly, and the number of
times will pass by massive solar panel rays is a
little bit mind boggling. Just out in the middle of
what again looks like farmland, or what looks like used
to be farmland, you'll just see acres upon acres of

(27:50):
solar panels. Now, this is precious farmland bulldoze in the
name of the so called green energy movement, all to
fight a climate crisis that exists more in the headlines
of leftist corporate propaganda the outlets than in the actual world.
We've got some pictures right here as well. You can
see that in the article. You can see this here.

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It is a huge amount of solar panels that are
being put onto these This again, land that could be
used to produce food, could be used for just about
anything else, And at least even if you just left
them as empty green fields, they wouldn't be such an iore.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
And we see so many different angles of attack on
the food supply from the same people, and typically of
the same justification of oh, well, you can't have food
or else the world is going to burn.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, you can't have you can't.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Have fertilizer, you can't have the actual farmland.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
You can't have a tractor that works properly. Because John
Deere is going to be the one that decides it's
going to do an update. You're not going to be
allowed to work on it yourself. You're gonna have to
rent it from them continual. This is more pictures two
thirds of mega solar farms built on productive farmland. This
is again an attack on farmers. They are continually attacking farmers.

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You've got a little bit of a video here, we'll
play some of it.

Speaker 8 (29:27):
So I just wanted to bring you here to show
you I've just been let in by these guys. This
is a solar panel farm that's been put up in
the West Country. Look at this bill down here that
they're completely ripping up in order to well, thank you,
you can't. I just walked in completely destroying the valley

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beyond the panels up and these solar panels are going.
They're just ripping up the entire areas ab our countryside.
And let me show you as well the plastic packaging
that these guys have. So I don't know why you're
getting across with me. It's you that's ripping up my countryside.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Please don't.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
I don't know why you're getting cross with me.

Speaker 8 (30:10):
So the plastic packaging that goes round all of this stuff,
none of this can be recycled, obviously, but it's so green,
it's so good for the environment. I'm sure, and I'm
sure local people didn't want this on their farmland either,
because this makes it harder for farmers to be able
to rent spaces. Please don't touch me. And then over here,
let me show you these boxes. I'll go in a moment, Okay,

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I just want to show people what's being delivered to
our farmland. And I let myself in. It was no
one else, thank you.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
And here.

Speaker 8 (30:44):
It's all the solar panels. Bear in mind, these solar
panels can't be recycled, so this is all future landfill.
Look at the size of these things and look at
all the plastic wrap on there.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Film me.

Speaker 8 (30:57):
So, yeah, my name's Katie Hopkins. I'm just kind of
stands up for the countryside and the ridiculousness of net zero.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
That is, of course, as she said, Katie Hopkins, you
can see they're getting very cross with her. As she said,
they don't like being filmed doing this. They don't like
the fact that she just walked in and is determined
to show people what's going on. They don't like that.
They'd rather do this with no one around to watch,
no one to know who did it, because they know

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people are going to be upset. People aren't going to
be happy. Had a comment from dad, our dad, David Knights.
As solar farms produce the food that AI needs, humans
can die, they don't care. That's right. They need more
power output for these massive AI servers. They're going to

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continually do whatever they need to power them on, get
them up and running. Whatever it does to the humans
that are in the way doesn't matter. In fact, if
it does cause some to starve and die, I'm sure
they're more than happy about that. Katie Hopkins is doing
a great job recording on that.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
I mean, it's not even a great method for feeding
the AI unless you're also intending to destroy the farmland.
Since it's not going to produce steady power for it.
They are especially in need some coal or nuclear plant
that they can fire up and.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Fire, especially in England where the sun is routinely covered
by clouds. Solar doesn't seem like the best option there.
It seems like, Oh, I hear is people in England
complaining about the cloud cover North American Alcippo. Yesterday I
saw a way mow driverless taxi blow a red light
in Orlando at a camera intersection. I guess the city

(32:39):
will mail the ticket to Uber headquarters in San Francisco. Yeah,
I'm sure that's not going to cause issues. How do
you properly ticket one of those things? The Syrian girl, Yep,
no one is storming the beaches of Africa. Nope, no
they are not. No one's super eager to get there.
They they see what Even if they were, they'd see

(33:03):
what was happening to the white South Africans and realized,
you know what, this isn't a good idea. Nights of
the storm. I'm gonna wait till Africa's empty, then go there.
They have a lot of natural resources and land. Africa
actually does have a metric ton of natural resources. That's
what makes their plight all the more surprising. They have

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so much they could utilize, and yet they don't. The
mystery of the La Mansion filled with surrogate children. Couple
with ties to China say they wanted a big family.
Surrogates who carried the children say they were deceived. It
is from Arcadia, California. In early May, after a baby
was hospitalized with possible signs of child abuse, police showed

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up at a nine bedroom mansion in this Los Angeles
suburb known for lavish homes and residents with roots in China.
It said they found fifteen more children, none other than three,
living under the care of nannies. Very strange. The investigative
trail led them to six more children at other homes
in the Los Angeles area. A Chinese born man and

(34:08):
woman living in the mansion said they were the parents
of all twenty two twenty two within three years, none
of them older than three. Birth certificates list them as such.
What mystified police was that the children appeared to have
been born all over the US in rapid succession. Really

(34:28):
makes you question what's going on there. Makes you wonder
if maybe this is some kind of baby procurement scheme.
Seems unlikely that they would simply be getting that many
children for their own interest.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Especially when they're all being raised by nannies.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, and there's signs of abuse. There's something fishy going
on there. There's something strange. I don't know exactly what,
but you can bet that when China is involved, it's
something shady. As I've said before, the Chinese have this
culture of professing very loudly, with flowery language, how honorable

(35:10):
they are, how it would shame their ancestors were they
to not be honorable, and then immediately stab you in
the back, do everything they can to undercut you, whether
it's in business or in just life in general. When
you were doing business, when we were in China, you know,

(35:31):
I don't like haggling. I find it tedious, I find
it boring. I want to tell you a price if
I'm selling something that I will accept, and if you
don't like that price, that's fine. I don't want to
sit here and bicker back and forth. This is the
price that works for me, and I don't want to
have to bicker with you about a price. I don't
want to feel like, you know, I'm trying not to
be you know, screwed on a deal, but that was

(35:56):
seen as normal. If you're not haggling in China, you're
getting taken advantage of. They set the price exorbitantly high,
especially for foreigners. It is all about taking as much
advantage of everyone as you can, Phonsie Bear, If it
isn't evident that they are pushing the worst of these
countries people into the West, you haven't been paying attention. Yeah,

(36:17):
we are being flooded by the most violent, the most violent,
least educated, most problematic members of every society. And see that.
As I said, just about every single day this past week,
I've seen a headline out of the UK about a

(36:37):
migrant rapist, not the same one, a new one every
single day, which is absurd and unbelievable. Yona, Andy Wodie.
These are not just immigrants at all. They are being
human trafficked by wealthy benefactors. We are not dumb. These
people cannot afford these travels. They are completing subsidized population

(36:59):
or place. Yeah, that's why I mentioned the NGOs. There are,
as Jonah says, being subsidized. They're being brought over. They
are at the replacements for you and me. And nad
Lander about the solar says, we never hear about the
battery banks on these systems. Nope, they don't want to
talk about them. They don't want to mention the massive

(37:20):
battery banks. It's going to take and how dangerous they are,
and how toxic the chemicals and the batteries are going
to be once they are no longer useful and they
have to be gotten rid of. That's assuming these batteries,
you know, don't spontaneously combust. At some point got a
comment from David Knights and says, as she pointed out,
they're maniacally putting up solar panels at the same time

(37:41):
they're trying to dim the sun. That's right, we got
to dim the sun. We got to put up these
solar panels. Ignore the fact that these are contradictory in
opposite goals KWD sixty eight. These solar panels don't hurt
wildlife at all, safe with the earth, that's right. They're
totally safe for wildlife. Sure, there's no adverse effects. It's

(38:02):
not gonna be like the windmills where birds burst and
bats explode when they fly through the low pressure in
the front to the high pressure in the back, or
just get clobbered by the blades. Forget where it was,
but just the wind farm was taking out a bunch
of bald eagles. I want to say. It was someplace
up north. You and Antibody seen so many solar panel

(38:25):
farms up towards Circleville, Ohio, covering flat arable rich land.
Why not cover parking lots and rooftops instead of high
instead or highways? Really makes you wonder. No, they don't
want to do that. They like taking out the farmland.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Well, they aren't drowing food on the highways and parking lots,
so therefore it makes more sense to put these up
on farms.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
The end goal is the destruction of the supply chain,
So why wouldn't they nice of the storm empty green fields?
Would scrub the co two they are so afraid of. Yeah, see,
they would look nice, they would have a function, it'd
be pleasant everything these people object to. So they've got
to put up these hideous, hideous solar farms. Disney's secret

(39:10):
experiments with AI have reportedly been a comical disaster. We
say it's bringing down the mouse. This is by Noor
al Shibai. The popular narratives that workers the movie and
TV industry are set to be trampled by artificial intelligence,
but the reality may be more complicated. Behind the scenes,
Disney has reportedly been struggling to deploy AI after creating
a whole new business unit dedicated to the tech, especially

(39:34):
without enraging people they still rely on in the process.
As Wall Street General reports, Disney has on multiple occasions
in recent years scrapped AI projects over legal concerns and
warnings that actor and writers unions may reject the technology
that could ultimately replace them. The entertainment conglomerate recently decided,
for instance, to clone Dwayne the Rock Johnson for his

(39:55):
role in the upcoming live action Mowana remake by deep
baking his face, and it has similarly shaped cousin Tanawai
Read's body. Johnson approved of the gamut, but Disney's attorneys
were ultimately unable to pin down how to protect the
data from such digital double filming, even to ensure that
the company owned every aspect of the intellectual property if

(40:15):
any of it was generated with AI. Also, Dwayne the
Rock Johnson is such a mediocre actor. He plays every
movie I've ever seen him, and he's the exact same character,
is the exact same. He is the poster child for

(40:36):
someone you could replace with AI. There's no personality there.
He is simply large and imposing, and he is very
large and very imposing. He's extremely, extremely muscular, so you know,
good for him on that.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Yeah, but I mean that is more you know, entitling
him to be a character actor. Yeah, the guy that
they cast a play.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
He's not man for.

Speaker 9 (41:02):
It.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Really.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
When you look at people like Dwayne the Rock Johnson
and Pedro Pascal, it really makes me wonder how people
are becoming popular because it seems to me when I
talk to other people, no one likes these actors. No,
they just get all the roles for some reason.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Uh, Dwayne the Rock Johnson can't act, my goodness. Kevin Hart,
Kevin Hart cannot act to save his life. He's in
everything all the time. We get it. Kevin Hart. You're loud,
You're short, and you're loud.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Ha ha.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Isn't that funny? Kevin Hart is some kind of sigh
of perpetrated on the American public. And whoever started that
one should be ashamed of themselves. They should be pulled
up on charges because I cannot stand it. One more
movie with Kevin Hart and I'm going to lose it.
Johnson approved of the gambit. Virtually all Frontier AI models

(41:55):
were created using publicly scraped text and imagery. Anything you
produce with them exists on shakey copyright ground a haziness
that's anathema to Disney's notorious stranglehold on its characters and properties.
Can't don't want to accidentally put something out into the
public there, Disney and its AI partner Metaphysic ultimately couldn't
hammer out a contract despite eighteen months of trying. If

(42:18):
the army of lawyers Disney has on staff couldn't figure
this out, no one is going to if this. If
Disney's incapable of making it work, there is no way,
no way anyone else has a chance. These people are
some of the most litigious, sue happy people on the planet.

(42:41):
They keep, as I said, an army of very highly paid,
very very good lawyers on deck. If they're not able
to do it, it is impossible. North American House, Hippo, thank
you very much. That is very generous. We appreciate it.
I was listening to a Toronto radio station on my
phone app yesday six eighty news. My former employer up

(43:01):
there has been building a transit line for fifteen years.
It's years overdue, billions over budget. Seems like that's always
the way with public projects, isn't it funny? North American
ACIPO again, thank you very much. Again. Now metro Links
is claiming that the railcars which have sat unused for
ten years are aging and must be replaced. Rome wasn't
built in the day, it was a government job. Well, honestly,

(43:26):
I think maybe if you got the Romans involved with this,
they might be able to figure it out. I think
maybe the Romans, if you put the Romans in charge
of Canada, things might start equalizing. Nights of the storm.
The net output of a panel over its size span
will never be what it was put in to create them.
It's a grift. We see this over and over again

(43:46):
with every sort of green energy source ends up being
a grift of some kind. They're always somehow more, they
pollute more, they they don't produce an energy, they kill
birds or bats or something in the environment. They're always
somehow more detrimental than they are beneficial. And it's again

(44:10):
just goes to show you when you look into this,
just how gullible people are. It's for the environment. It's
for the environment, they say, as they drive around a
tesla that is going to have to be disposed of
at some point, and those batteries are going to leech
into the soil nights of the storm. Green Energy is

(44:32):
a money laundering scheme. Tax dollars to the stakeholders who
donate to politicians. They always get their money back. When
you see someone donating to a politician, a billionaire donating,
you know it's because they're going to follow their agenda.
The USDA use Scarlett Johansson Adam Driver Marriage Story shouting
scenes to stop wolves from killing cattle. And apparently the

(44:58):
only people who find the only things that find modern
Hollywood movies more obnoxious than I do are wolves. They
can't take it.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
It's seeking of another actor that no one likes. That's
in everything. Here's Adam Driver.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
He got his Disney Star Wars contract and he's been
He's been set ever since. I would be surprised if
you get those Disney Star Wars contracts, if you ever
have to work again. These movies are so repugnant they
can be used to repel wolves. He's Department of Agricultures

(45:35):
using an argument scene from the twenty nineteen film Marriage
Story to scare wolves away from farms along the West coast,
and a strange couple played by Scarlett Johanson and Adam
Driver loudly and intensely event their frustrations. It's among several
audio clips being used by the USDA to scare away
wolves from the livestock. They need the wolves to respond
and know that hey, humans are bad. Well, then you've

(45:58):
got the right idea. Showing them people from high Hollywood
will really clue them in that humans are bad. Maybe
you could play eyes wide shut next and they'd really
get that idea.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
This is have better taste in movies than Hollywood producers.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, this is similar to what the CIA did with
Noriega blaring at blurring stuff at him to get him
to surrender in Panama. Poor wolves being subjected to modern Hollywood.
This isn't something I would wish on my worst enemy,
and certainly not, certainly not wolves.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Welves do not concern themselves with the opinions of Adam Driver.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Well, we're going to take a quick break. When we
come back, we're going to look at the eightieth anniversary
of Hiroshima. So stay with us, folks, We'll be right back.

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at Hiroshima now. We've got comments from fonzieber about the
solar panels. We all saw the acres of solar panels
destroyed by recent storms. Not very reliable.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Duh.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, they're fairly easy to damage, and once they're damage,
they're not producing that much energy at all. Night So
the storm responding says that happened in Colorado Springs. They
get frequent hailstorms and it wrecked a relatively new solar
field on base. I imagine a hailstorm takes out just
about all of the solar panels. I can't imagine one

(49:22):
being functional after being pelted by hail. They're fairly fragile.
They're kind of delicate, which is not something you want
in a technology that you're putting out in the open.
We have the eightieth anniversary of Hiroshima. This was from
the Free Thought Project Kiroshima at eighty, setting the important
precedent for atomic warfare. Eighty years after the atomic bombing

(49:46):
of Hiroshima Nagasaki, many still cling to July. The mass
murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent people was the
only way to subdue Japan and end the Second World War.
But in astute review of the sentiments of America's top
military leaders of the time were feels the truth this
is yesterday. August sixth was the eightieth anniversary. August six

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marks the eightieth anniversary of mankind's most cataclysmic and ignominious achievement,
the first weaponized use of an atomic bomb. At approximately
eight to fifteen in the morning, the bomb a little
boy detonated over the city of Haroshima, Japan. Well estimates
that vary between one hundred and forty thousand dead. The
sheer magnitude of devastation caused to a largely civilian population
cannot be understated. To this day, much debate rages on

(50:33):
regarding the necessity of such weapons. In the closing chapter
of the Second World War, we saw an extreme disregard
for life here. You can also see it in things
like the Dresden bombing. The bombing of Dresden doesn't get
as much publicity. It's not as reported on as the

(50:55):
atomic bombs, but Dresden was another place where they took
out a huge number of civilians. There's a video of
an old World War II veteran. I don't know what
show he was on, but he was as a british
Man talking about what he saw when they marched through
Dresden after the bombing and they would find some skeletons,

(51:18):
and he said there was just almost like a jelly
of melted flesh and organs and things that was around.
And he broke down when we started talking about the
fact that we didn't see any children's skeletons, and he said,
it's because the children's skeletons aren't as they're not as dense,

(51:39):
and so they just burn away. And he was horrified
by that. All these years later, was still unable to
talk about it without coming to tears.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
War crimes against civilian populations don't cease to be war
crimes just because you don't like the government of those civilians.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
The current orthodoxy of American military history, however, stands firmly entrenched.
At the usage of this bomb and a subsequent one
in Nagasaki three days later, it was critical to ending
the war quickly and saving the lives of countless Americans
and even Japanese civilians who have assuredly died in the
ensuing operation to seize the entirety of mainland Japan. But
how vital was the atomic bombing truly to ending the war?

(52:27):
Operation downfall? And it's a downfall of art, morals and ethics.
What's actually as I read this first, let's take a
look at this US nuke test footage. This is the
type of thing my dad grew up seeing over and
over again, this horrifying footage of what a nuclear blast does.

(52:51):
Of course, they set up this mock town out in
the desert and they filmed it. The explosion goes on.
I'm going to continue reading the article. It plays in
the background, which just demolish as a house. Modern military

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story is desperately cling to the notions set forth by
former War Secretary Henry Stimpson that are forced to carry
a ground invasion of Japan, to conclusion it would cost
over a million casualties to American forces alone. The invasion
dub Operation Downfall, And while a large preponderance of scholarship

(53:34):
on the matter seeks to reaffirm these claims, it was
a dubious metric even at the time. No pre erosional
literature can be found that would back up these claims.
It appears to be a post war invention by Stimpson
Truman at all to justify the decision. There's even contemporary dissent.
The list of senior contemporary military figures that, whether quietly
or in confidence, to the President question the necessity is

(53:56):
extensive and one inspiring. Admiral William Delahy, Chief of Staff
of the Commander in Chief. It is my opinion the
use of this barbarous weapon, a Hiroshima Nagasaki was of
no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese
were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the
effective sea blockade. With successful bombing with conventional weapons, the

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lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in the future are frightening.
My own feeling was that in being the first to
use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to
the barbarians of the Dark Ages. Admiral Leahy wrote, while
Aike did not serve in the Pacific theater, he was
a five star general and later thirty fourth President of
the United States, and as such his opinion carries heavyweight

(54:46):
in historical record. Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, Commander in Chief Pacifically,
the commander of the very theater in which the bomb
was dropped Portally, also felt that the weapons were not
necessary to end the war forty six and he told
a group of scientists the military was not responsible. I've
informed of The decision to drop the atomic bomb on

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Japanese cities was made at a higher level than that
of the Joint chiefs of Staff, According to the National
World War Two Museum, the State and was made in
response to Admiral Halsey's third Fleet commander during World War Two,
claim that the first atomic bomb was an unnecessary experiment.
It was a mistake to ever drop it. General Douglas MacArthur,
perhaps most surprisingly given later proclivity to advocate for atomic

(55:27):
warfare in the Korean War, was General MacArthur, who, confiding
to his personal pilot, was appalled and depressed by this.
Frankenstein Monster is also listed as a dissident toward the
usage of the bomb in later years. John J. McCloy,
Assistant Secretary of War. These are just a list of

(55:48):
people of a comment from Dad, Those videos were scarier
than a Twilight Zone episode to me as a kid. Yeah,
this is what our dad's generation grew up with seeing
this being shown. It is again the propaganda, the fear

(56:14):
that was instilled. We have another video here of the
Hiroshima bombing. The Hiroshima bomb This is detailing what actually
happened with It shows the activation nuclear bombs detonate in

(56:41):
the air above before they make impact, the devastation.

Speaker 5 (57:01):
People just to vaporize.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
These bombings are a shame on America's history. In places
like Hirochmann, Nagasaki, I've seen pictures where there are still
the permanent markings, the shadows burned in shadows of people
where they were vaporized when the bombs went off, permanently

(57:44):
etched into the streets and the walls there. Challenging to
the last man narrative. One of the biggest aspects of
this discussion hinges on the notion that Japan must totally
capitulate to win the war. Advocates of the bomb argue,
based on Stimpson's perspective, that Japan was willing to fight
to the very last man. However, as we've established, very

(58:07):
senior leaders of the day did not uniformly believe this.
This further comes into question when one recognized that the
ultimate terms of surrender, namely that the Emperor of Japan
remain in place, was a viable option before the bombing
of Hiroshima. Japanese sources from the time, while fractured in
chaotic due to extreme disagreements between various senior leaders, largely
indicate that it was understood that the war was lost,

(58:28):
in that Japan needed to sue for peace with no
viable navy or air force left and its disposal in
an army that had been decimated by a war multiple
front's Foreign minister, shin Shiginori Togo, began planning for surrender.
In a cable that was intercepted on July twelve, nineteen
forty five, Togo wrote to the Japanese ambassador to the

(58:49):
Soviet Union to sound out the possibilities utilizing the Soviet
Union in connection with the termination of the war. Japanese
were already looking at ways his super peace. They're already
aware that it was over, that there was no winning this,
that the continuation of it would be a futile endeavor.

(59:10):
Don't frag me, bro. The strategic bombing of Europe was
just as horrific the strategic bombing of North Vietnam only
solidified the national attitude into an anti American one. We've
seen this happen routinely night so the storm. I learned
to duck and cover in grade school KWD sixty eighth,
mid century fear porn, Duck and cover. That's right, duck

(59:31):
and cover. Just put your head under your desk. And
who knows, just maybe if someone does ever make it
through the irradiated wasteland, they'll be able to find your
dental records. Maybe they'll find part of your skull and
able to identify you. Now people know that, oh look,
this is right where he died. Duck and cover was
a complete waste of time. You're not going to survive

(59:55):
a nuclear blast by ducking and covering your head. Don't
frag me, bro. The powers that be asserted that Nagasaki
and Roschamade would be uninhabitable for hundreds of years. Eighty
years later, four generations and not so obvious anymore. If
memory serves, I want to say the Japanese worked very
hard to dispose of a lot of a radiated waste.

(01:00:19):
Remember reading a story about some how the elderly Japanese
came in and said, well, I don't have much time
left to live, so if I can dedicate that to
getting rid of some of this radiation, you know that's
worth it. Even if I end up with cancer or
dying from the side effects of radiation, it'll be worth

(01:00:39):
it to make the land better for the future generations.
I remember reading something along those lines, but who knows,
maybe that was maybe that was a bait story on
the internet.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
I've also heard that you get far far less nuclear
fallout if the bomb detonates in the air rather than
on impact. If it detonates on impact, it throws up
a huge amount of irradiated dust, whereas if it detonates
in the air, it'll irradiate the surface of the ground.

(01:01:14):
But then that's as nearly as bad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
I don't know, stevevs. How long after nuclear bombing does
it take for that area to be livable? kWt zero
months to living in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, people never left
guard Goldsmith. I knew a nice young lady from Siberia
who grew up near a nuke plant that had leaked.
She couldn't have children, so said, poor thing. Radiation has

(01:01:40):
some very strange effects. The war was over and Japan
knew it a month before Hiroshima, Togo felt that the
most prudent measure to end the war, while still at
the very least maintaining a homeland, was to ask for
Soviet intercession and peace talks with the Allied forces. It
was already known the Japanese were on the cusp of

(01:02:07):
suing for peace. It is difficult to put into words
the weight that atomic warfare brought to the conclusion of
the Second World War. It served as a horrifying and
needless book and the most to the worst catastrophe in
the history of mankind. Senior leaders the day recognized that
in the dying embers of World War II, such weaponry
was reckless and not needed to secure victory. It was

(01:02:32):
a pointless act of barbarism, a massive civilian casualty, two
of them. When viewed through the lens of nearly a
century of clarity, it is hard to come away from
any conclusion other than that the bombings of Rochemanagasaki were
cruel signaling tools, with hundreds of thousands of innocent souls

(01:02:54):
placed squarely in their experimental crosshairs. It was a mass
murder of civilians. It was another military industrial complex test
of their new toy, their latest weapon. It also allowed

(01:03:16):
them to instill this, you know, the continual fear of
the nuclear bomb in people that said, it's like a
murderer constantly looking over his shoulder. We had used it,
and so now we had to live in fear that
someone would use it on us, constantly being made to

(01:03:38):
fear duck and cover. Look, it's gonna happen.

Speaker 10 (01:03:44):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
We did it, and so who knows the Russians could
use it. Maybe the North Koreans. North Koreans were the
ones that were used as sort of a nuclear prop
when we were growing up. They weren't as effective, you know.
They've always been kind of a tinpot dictator ship.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
It's gonna be Iran. They are going to be the
next ones today, exactly. Just ask Masad.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
This is again an unconscionable action. In my opinion, this
is a mass civilian murder. Bonzi Beart. All those videos
have been outed as fake by angles cameras not being
destroyed in no fallout areas in any of the US. Wow,
so they ginned up all this propaganda.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
I'd never heard that, but I can believe it is
a good question. Why don't the cameras.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Move Epstein Island. How do the cameras survive? The blasts
removed the Liberty nineteen sixty seven cameras don't move. I'd
always been curious about that. I just you know, it's
one of those things like, well, maybe they had some
way of transmitting the signal back. Very curious. That's something
when I have to listen to.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
Assumed it was really zoomed in cameras, but it would
have to be insanely zoomed in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Makes sense, makes sense. There's another one of those things
where no one is immune to propaganda. If you see
it when you're young, you don't question it. It gets
past your critical thinking ability. I've seen those nuclear bomb
test footage videos over and over again since I was
a very small child. It just gets in there and

(01:05:23):
it's hard to question. This from the Mises Institute, Harry
Truman and the atomic bomb hypocrisy of criticizing the bombings
while simultaneously defending the use of conventional weapons against civilian targets.
The most spectacular episode of Harry Truman's presidency will never

(01:05:44):
be forgotten, but will be forever linked to his name.
Atomic bombings of Hiroshima in August six, nineteen forty five,
and of Nagasaki three days later. Probably around two hundred
thousand persons were killed in the attacks and through radiation poisoning.
The vast majority were civilians, including several thousand Korean workers.
Twelve US Navy flyers incarcerated in Hiroshima Jail were also

(01:06:05):
among the dead. Great controversy, as also has always surrounded
the bombings. One thing Truman insisted on from the start
was that the decision to use the bombs and the
responsibility it entailed was his. To a clergyman who criticized,
and Truman responded testily, nobody is more disturbed over the
use of the atomic bombs than I am. But I

(01:06:26):
was greatly disturbed over the unwarranted attacks by the Japanese
on Pearl Harbor, their murder of our prisoners of war.
The only language they seem to understand is the one
we have been using to bombard them. Just because someone
does something terrible to you doesn't mean you get to
do something terrible to them. You can get justice, but
this was not justice. It's not justice to kill hundreds

(01:06:50):
of thousands of civilians. The Syrian girl America did nothing wrong,
but obliterate the populations of Dresden, Nagasaki, and Roshima. God
would have judged this. Nas Solak At nineteen eighty bombing
of Dresden was also unnecessary. Yeah, that's what I was
talking about earlier. It was another horror. They destroyed another

(01:07:11):
massive civilian population there, completely and utterly Seyian Girl. Some
of the Japanese bombings, we could have evacuated our troops
and bombed a few islands where Japanese combatants were in place.
That would have made our point. Yeah. Wouldn't have had
to bomb civilians, could have bombed the actual military combatants.

(01:07:31):
Defied tire at seventeen seventy six. Those two new bombings
Japan was one of the biggest war crimes in history. Yeah,
possibly the biggest, at least most psychologically devastating and singular.
It's hard to pinpoint another time where a war crime
was so instantaneous that many people were killed all at once.

(01:07:55):
Solaic at nineteen eighty, the Emperor of Japan was allowed
to live out his life and freedom and luxury as well. Hitler.
In South America, Rome awarded their puppets for a un
establishing job. Well done, Yeah, I do tend to believe
Hitler fled to Argentina. It seems quite likely a Syrian girl,
true Travis, which is what makes propaganda in the public
schools so dangerous and reprehensible. Kids can't understand the attacks

(01:08:18):
they're under. They just internalize the lives. It's it's very
very hard once something. When you learn something as a kid,
it can be very very hard to unlearn it as
an adult once it's past your If it gets in
before you develop critical thinking ability, it is very hard
to apply critical thinking to that thing. It's just accepted

(01:08:40):
as fact. In Peter twenty twenty nine, dropping day bomb
in Japan wasn't to end the board, it was to
threaten the world. Yeah, as people know, we've got this
new toy. We've got this. Don't mess with us. We
can do what we want. Bonzie bear. They had film
from a camera inside Wheen of the houses blown upon
art that miraculously survived. Please loll. Yeah, that doesn't seem

(01:09:04):
plausible now that you pointed it out. It seems like
something that I obviously should have questioned. There are a
lot of things like that. It's a such a reasoning
will not impress anyone who fails to see how the
brutality of the Japanese military could justify deadly retaliation against
innocent men, women, and children. Truman doubtless was aware of this,

(01:09:27):
so from time to time he advanced other pretexts. On
August nine, nineteen forty five, he stayed, the world will
not will note that the first atomic bomb was dropped
on Hiroshima, a military base. That was because we wished
in this first attack to avoid, insofar as possible, the
killing of civilians. That's, however, was absurd. Pearl Harbor was
a military base. Hiroshima was a city inhabited by some

(01:09:51):
three hundred thousand people, which contained military elements. In any case,
since the harbor was mined in the US Navy and
Air Force from control of the waters around Japan, whatever
troops were station in Hiroshima had been effectively neutralized in
other occasions. Truman claimed that Hiroshima was bombed because it
was an industrial center, but as noted in the US
Strategic Bombing Survey, all major factories in Umoshma and Hiroshima

(01:10:14):
were on the periphery of the city and escaped serious damage.
Target was the center of the city that Truman realized
the kind of victims the bomb consumed, as evident from
his comment to his cabinet on August tenth, explaining his
reluctance to drop a third bomb. The thought of wiping
out another one hundred thousand people was too horrible, He said.
He didn't like the idea of killing all those kids,

(01:10:34):
wiping out another one hundred thousand people, all those kids.
He knew what he had done, knew what kind of
monster that made him. Thus, the rationale for the atomic
bombings has come to rest on a single colossal fabrication
which has gained surprising currency, that they were necessary in

(01:10:55):
order to save half a million or more American lives.
Case scenario for a full scale invasion of the Japanese
Home Islands was forty six thousand American lives lost. Ridiculously
inflated figure of a half million for the potential death toll,
nearly twice the total of US dead in all theaters
Second World War, is now routinely repeated in high school
and college textbooks and bandied about by ignorant commentators. Unsurprisingly,

(01:11:19):
the prize for sure fatuousness on this score goes to
President George H. W. Bush, who claimed in nineteen ninety
one that dropping the bomb spared millions of American lives. Still,
Truman's multiple deceptions and self deceptions are understandable considering the
horror he unleashed. He was a war criminal. He when

(01:11:40):
you do something like that, the my reels, it's easy
to understand why you wouldn't want to come to grips
with it. To admit, again, like you said, all those kids.
The bombings were contented as barbaric and unnecessary military officers

(01:12:02):
by high American military officers, including Eisen Howard MacArthur. View
of Admiral William Delahy, Truman's own chief of staff, was typical.
The use of this barbarous weapon at Roshima, Nagasaki was
of no material assistance in our war against Japan. My
own feeling was that and being the first to use it,
we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians

(01:12:22):
the dark Ages. I was not taught to make wars
in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying
women and children. And that seems to be something that
we have given up on in America. Seems to be

(01:12:43):
something we stopped caring about. Who cares now if women
and children die. That's just part of the price we pay.
Five months after bombing Nagasaki, we staged an All Star
football game the Fallout Zone. This from Other Jones Forgotten

(01:13:03):
history of the Atomic Bowl. In New Year's Day nineteen
forty six, one of the most surreal and disturbing sporting
events in US history was held in the Japanese city
of Nagasaki, less than five months after an atomic bomb
in August ninth destroyed half the city and killed at
least seventy five thousand people. The All Star football game,
staged by the occupying forces of the US military, received

(01:13:23):
wide coverage in the American media at the time. It
was dubbed the Atomic Bowl. Then it became largely forgotten,
almost lost to history. I had never heard about it
before this article. As we approached the eightieth anniversary of
this attack, this game remains an appropriate metaphor for the
Nagasaki bomb, the second nuclear weapon dropped on a large
Japanese city by the United States at the end of

(01:13:44):
World War II. The cerrific bombing in its aftermath has
long been overshadowed by the first atomic blast three days
earlier at Hiroshima late September nineteen forty five, shortly after
the Japanese surrender then into the war, tens of thousands
of US Army troops and Marines landed near Nagasaki in
southern Japan. They found the city decimated. The vombit explored
a mile off target over a suburb where fifteen thousand

(01:14:06):
Catholics had lived, with countless survivors injured or suffering from
radiation disease. Many of the Americans were exposed to lingering
and poorly monitored levels of radiation in the ruins. Since
the end of hostilities, US manners had looked for ways
to normalize the American occupation of the Pacific and Europe.
Military orientation film Our Job in Japan, written by Theodore Geisel,
who later became doctor Zeus, and was shown to arriving

(01:14:30):
one nuke to nuke, red, nuke blue, nuke the occupying forces.
It told them their main job was to be ourselves
and showed that the American way was a pretty good
way to live. This included mounting baseball and football games
in which US soldiers could compete. Military officials believed this
is also way for servicemen. As one put it, to
blow off steam and impressed the locals with the glory

(01:14:52):
of American sports. I'm continually amazed that American Japan have
such good relations. We nuked them twice. They're the only
country that has actually had the nuclear bomb used on them,
and somehow they get along with us just fine. And

(01:15:20):
I wonder if this is just like, well, they did
it to us twice. Better stay on their good side.
Don't want to upset them. We know what they're capable of.
Fonsie Bear says Fukushima anyone. Yeah, Japan has a unfortunate
history with radiation.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
Well, the reason we're talking about this one specifically rather
than Fukushima is that the anniversary was yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Yeah, in December, Marine commander order that a football game
be held in Japan for the Christmas and New Year's holidays.
Why did the military choose Nagasaki, of all places, as
a site for this game on a field so close
to ground zero? No written records documenting the reasons exist. Additionally,
later nineteen forty six, US Service been helped organize and
served as judges for a miss atom bomb beauty pageant

(01:16:08):
in Nagasaki for local women. This is incredibly tasteless. I
tend not to. I try not to get too bothered
by this sort of thing where people do say and
do tasteless things. People will do that, and if you

(01:16:30):
get bothered by it, as a general rule, you're just
going to waste your time being upset and not accomplish anything.
But this is truly tasteless, and it's hard to believe somebody,
okayed that. It's hard to believe anyone thought that was
something that would be appropriate. Yeah, I know, we just

(01:16:51):
knew to you guys twice. But how would you like
to compete in the Miss Adam Bomb beauty pageant? How
about we play a game of football by the irradiated
remains of one of your cities to show you how
great American culture is. You know, the culture that destroys,
that burns away two hundred thousand innocent civilians. That culture.

(01:17:14):
How'd you like to see that culture at work. I'm surprised,
like I said, that, the Japanese don't completely despise us,
as Rosha marks. Hiroshima marks eighty years since US atomic
bombing survivor says nuclear weapons and humanity cannot coexist. Looking

(01:17:42):
out of the sky in Hiroshma, ninety six year old
Junji Sarashina points out places from his childhood. It was
my grade school not too far from here, he tells
his granddaughter, showing her around the area. Sarashina was sixteen
years old and working in an anti aircraft munitions factory
when the United States dropped the world's first attimemic bomb
on Hiroshima on August six, nineteen forty five. When the

(01:18:03):
bomb dropped, I wasn't able to see anything, Sarashena says.
A concrete wall saved Sarashena, but when he emerged from
rubble after the blast, an apocalyptic scene awaited him. That's
when I saw one thousand, two thousand people quietly moving,
all wounded, burned, no clothes, no hair, just moving trying
to escape the fire. He recalls, made his way to
a Red Cross station, began to help, tried to give

(01:18:25):
a sip of water the first kid, but he was gone.
Sarashena says, it's hard to imagine how horrifying that must
have been for this sixteen year old child. One thousand
to two thousand people had their clothes burned away, their
hair burned away, scorched. About one hundred and forty thousand

(01:18:49):
people died in Hiroshima. Three days later, the US dropped
a second atomic bomb over Nagasaki, killing another seventy thousand people.
Japan surrendered soon after, bringing in too World War two. Now,
on the hills outside Aroshima, where rice and buckwheat grow
lives a man who has spent decades of his life
campaigning against nuclear weapons. Toshiyuki Mimaki was three years old

(01:19:10):
when the bomb exploded, and he still remembers the stench
of death. He spent his life campaigning against nuclear weapons.
Last year's organization Nihan Hidankyo, which means Survivors of the
atomic bombings, won the Nobel Peace Prize, but Mimaki fears
that was more than twelve thousand nuclear weapons in the world. Today,
the group's activism is more critical than ever. I want

(01:19:30):
people all over the world to know that nuclear weapons
humanity cannot coexist, Mimaki says. The message was repeated at
Aroshma's Peace Park to commemorate the eighty year mark, which
both Sarashina and Mimaki attended. His address to Japan's Prime
Minister said that as the only country to have experienced
the horror of nuclear devastation, war it is Japan's mission
to bring about a world without nuclear weapons. There's a

(01:19:53):
deep concern that the stories of the fewer than one
hundred thousand remaining elderly survivors of the bombings notice he
bought Kusha will fade away with their passing. There's hope
that the younger generation will ensure the world never forgets
from now on. I want to do my part to
share their stories with others who don't know. Fifteen year
old student Minami Sato said. The nuclear bombs are a

(01:20:24):
very it's a very scary concept, and the fact that
America did this this is again, in my opinion, truly
where we threw our morals out the window. The decision
to annihilate two hundred thousand civilians just callously really shows

(01:20:51):
you where we get our modern day policy of engagement from,
really shows you how we can sew unfeelingly support what's
happening with Israel in Gaza, and of course Israel as
the Samson option with their stolen nuclear technology. They decided

(01:21:13):
that well, you know, if we're going to lose, if
it seems like we're not going to win a war,
things might go bad for us, We'll just irradiate. We'll
nuke the entire surrounding area. We'll make it so everyone
loses the greatest. Ally, seems like they learned something from us,
at least North American House Hippo. Those it may not know.

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Trump threatens Russia sending nuclear subs after a politician insulted him. Yes,
we covered that article or those articles the other day.
Medvedev compared him to Sleepy Joe used his own words

(01:22:25):
against him, and he took that very poorly. So we decided,
you know what, this calls for a potential nuclear response.
We're gonna send nuclear submarines over there, and you better
watch out. He's an utter fool. He's a complete and
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are also being also on there. A sying girl says
before the COVID jab those bombings were the greatest crime
against humanity. Since the beginning of recorded history. I agree,
it's hard to believe that the COVID JAB may be
even more horrific, that may have killed more that it

(01:25:18):
almost definitely has, and that the effects of it may
be more long lasting, more horrifying. The impact of it
is harder to it's not as psychologically impactful. You don't
have the big flash, you don't have the leftover shadows

(01:25:38):
on the ground, so it's hard for people to internalize it. Tornator,
thank you very much, appreciate the tip. Jason Burmas talked
about the nuclear test cameras and said they were protected
in thick metal cages or something along those lines. He
said he's seen video that covers it, but I haven't
seen it yet. Well, maybe I'll do some research into
that if I get time. I don't have much time anymore,

(01:26:00):
or with our son and all the work that goes on,
but maybe if I get a chance, we're gonna take
a quick break and then we will be.

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
Did have bunkers that could survive that sort of thing.
So with these heavy several inches of lead shielding and
the cameras themselves underground, with a bunch of mirrors to
do it, I could potentially see it being possible.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Have to look into it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
Yeah, it's definitely worth looking into. I've seen some other
comments from people discussing this in chat. I stopped putting
them up because I don't really know anything about this.
I'll definitely look into it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Though, going to need to do some research. Doug Lug,
I appreciate the tip. Doug Lug, thank you very much,
and he says, thank you guys, well, thank you Doug,
and thank you to all of those in the audience.
As I said, we're going to take a quick break
and we will be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
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in our case, here in Boston, we are fighting for
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abstract as a young gentleman supposes. The issue involved here
is one of monopolies. Today, the British government will monopolize

(01:29:45):
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Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
Welcome back, folks, will be joined with Tony over in
here a minute where we are having some slight technical difficulties.
Our internet has been very unstable recently and we are
dealing with that, and of course the AC is still
out in the studio. My dad pointed out that we

(01:33:31):
went through the coldest months of the year with no heat,
announced the hottest months of the year and we've got
no AC. I was actually not here for being out
of heat. My wife and I were down in Texas
visiting her family, so we didn't experience that. We're waiting
for Tony to reconnect. We've got some comments. Nebo twenty
twenty nine. The football game was on was an experiment

(01:33:53):
using the military to test the radiation effects on humans.
Months after the event, and later the pageant was to
test for shedding levels. Very interesting. I could definitely see
that military is not above testing on their own soldiers.
Nibaru twenty twenty nine. Truman ordered all Pacific US naval
ships be anchored in Hawaii shortly before the Pearl Harbor attack. Yeah,

(01:34:17):
they were desperately looking for a justification to join the war,
and there is a lot of evidence and that they
did this on purpose to make sure that they had justification.
They could jump in KWD sixty eight FDR push Japan
for over a year prior to Pearl Harbor. Not a
just war, but they never are. That is very true,

(01:34:40):
don't frag me. Bro Naval intelligence had already cracked the
Japanese codes and knew the attack was coming two weeks prior.
No aircraft character carriers getting hit was a strategic move.
Pearl Harbor was used and encouraged as an event the
powers that we expected, the chain expected to change public
opinion in the USA to enter the war. Yeah, the

(01:35:03):
ships that got sunk were all battleships and things like that.
I believe, maybe you know, there were some others, but
as a general rule, battleships were the technology of the
last war. They weren't going to be what decided this.
The aircraft carrier was the new technology, the new ship
that was more important. Made sure that they kept those intact.

(01:35:26):
Bonzie Bear responding to don't frag me, there were more
Americans against World War two than Vietnam. Pearl Harbor was
an emotional trigger. Yeah, World War One was still pretty
fresh in people's minds. They didn't want to be involved
in another land war in Europe. They did, they were
very dead set against it, so they needed a huge

(01:35:47):
catalyzing moment to be able to get people on board
with it. Dougalug Nagasaki was a heavily Christian community from
what I've heard, wouldn't surprise me if people in charge
chose it because of that reason wanted to. They like
killing Christians when they can. They really.

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
Yeah, I've heard it was the Christian capital of Japan.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Yeah, and when these people get a chance to kill Christians,
they will jump at it. While we're waiting for Tony
to reconnect, I want to briefly say thank you to
for Love of the Road. I meant to show this yesterday,
but I got distracted. This is a tie he sent in.
I wanted to show what we were talking about the

(01:36:34):
Confederate statues yesterday, but this is a tie from For
Love of the Road. It's got Nathan Bedford Forest on it.
Nathan Bedford Forest was a very very interesting individual Confederate general.
He was a singular, singular man. He had very interesting life.
He I believe pioneered the use of shotguns during cavalry charges.

(01:36:59):
He was a remarkably effective general and one of the
few that never surrendered after the War of Northern Aggression either.
Later in his life he also spent time going around
to black churches and trying to heal the rift and divide.

(01:37:20):
From what I've read, it was a very interesting individual,
someone who had a very diverse life when it comes
to the things he did. So I want to say
thank you for Love of the Road for sending that in.
Maybe I'll wear that once the ac has started working again,

(01:37:43):
and that'll appease the people like Khan think who demand
I wear a tie. Khan is the biggest supporter of
the tie in this chat, Yona, anybody three times as
many died during the bombing of Toke the fire bombing
of Tokyo. America has a long history of excessive civilian casualties.

(01:38:09):
World War two we did that many many times, the
fire bombing of Tokyo and the nuclear bombs as well. Well.
Like I said, we are waiting for Tony to reconnect.
We've been having some issues with the Internet today and
we are currently trying to work through them. Let's see,

(01:38:37):
let's take a look at what's going on with Israel.
Why we wait for Tony to rejoin. We've got Trump
admin partially walks back planned to deny disaster A two
cities that boycott Israel. We saw this happen the other
day and people immediately freaked out. Well, actually Tony is ready,

(01:39:01):
so let's bring him on. Tony, how are you doing?
Can you hear me?

Speaker 12 (01:39:05):
I hear you loud and clear, sir. It's good to
see you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Good to see you too, fantastic. Yes, the delay is gone.
You're coming through loud and clear. No more robotic garbling
on the feed. So joining us now is Tony Ardeburn.
You can find him at wisewolf gold and you can
go to David Knight dot gold as well. So thank

(01:39:28):
you for joining us, Tony. Is there anything specific on
your radar this week?

Speaker 10 (01:39:34):
Yeah, I'm glad that the robot garbling has gone. Not
no singularity yet, Travis. I've not merged with machine.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
They haven't gotten you.

Speaker 12 (01:39:44):
I like the I like where we are in the culture.

Speaker 10 (01:39:48):
Not really, but I think it's interesting that we see
the firing of the statistician. It gives up the numbers
on jobs. I thought that was interesting in the last week.
Trump doesn't like the numbers, so the messenger gets executed.

Speaker 12 (01:40:05):
And I find that to be what's that, oh nothing?

Speaker 10 (01:40:11):
I find that to be just about the most apropos
moment in the last ten days or so when it
comes to finance, because we don't like the numbers. We
just get rid of the person who told you that.
A lot of people want to hear a certain narrative.
And that's hard to do in our business, isn't it.
We don't always give the news people want to hear.

(01:40:32):
But I think that the trends, certainly the macro trends,
are what to continue to watch. All this stuff in
the internal politics the United States is absolutely sad. But
the yeah, the macro issues, I think that changes happening
so rapidly it's hard to keep up with.

Speaker 12 (01:40:47):
Actually, there's a.

Speaker 10 (01:40:48):
Lot going on with the accumulation of gold, and I
think the cross border payment issues with bricks, I think
that's going to have massive implications on whether the United
States can even implement sanctions or have any project any
sort of financial power anymore. As a matter of fact,
the Russian finance minister, I believe, came out this last

(01:41:10):
week and just basically said, the United States is having
a hard time coming to grips with the fact that
it cannot project or wheeled financial power like it used
to and it's waning.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Yeah, we see the decline of the American empire everywhere
across the board. We have silver nearing forty dollars right now,
we have an article from zero Hedge saying is fifty
dollars next. I'd like to get your take on that,
because you've been pointing out silver has kind of been
lagging behind. It's you know, it's it's valuable, it's used

(01:41:44):
in all these different things, and you know gold takes
off like a rocket, but silver has. You know, it's
been more stable, but it's slowly starting to creep up.
Do you think, do you think it'll hit fifty?

Speaker 10 (01:42:01):
Well, I certainly do, and then beyond think, I think
we're due for an all time high. It's only been
forty five years. I think it's time for a new
at H. Gold had what thirty somehadd all time highs
in the last you know, eighteen months, and it may
be more. I could be off on that because it
was happening. I remember talking to your dad almost weekly.

(01:42:21):
There'd be a new all time high in gold, and
that's because gold has had a place out front as
a monetary medal, Travis, and it has I mean, that's
what you think of when you think of the gold standard,
and you think of central banks and you know, balance sheets,
you think of gold, and the issue with silver as

(01:42:43):
a monetary medal has so many other uses. It's taken
a back seat after the US went off the gold standard,
and of course we started out taking the silver out
of our coinage, which starting in nineteen sixty five and
debasing you know, the dollar, half dollars, quarters, and dimes.
So that debasement continued. A lot of governments got rid

(01:43:05):
of the monetary use of silver, and that was the
last government to get rid of that was Switzerland in
two thousand and two. So after that there was no
monetary uses for silver on the balance sheets for these governments. However,
as we talked about in the last year, Russia created
a strategic reserve asset with silver, and I think they're

(01:43:27):
one of the first of many they're going to start
doing that.

Speaker 12 (01:43:30):
Large corporations are doing that.

Speaker 10 (01:43:31):
Of course, we know about JP Morgan Chase and their manipulation,
and they're the largest private holder of silver in the world.

Speaker 12 (01:43:37):
But I think in a failing FIAT.

Speaker 10 (01:43:39):
World, where the money supply continues to increase, the debt
continues to increase, those governments and central banks and other
entities are looking for investment, looking for places to house value.
Physical silver for the last forty five years has just

(01:44:00):
not been on the forefront. They've been quietly accumulating. But
I think with the tariffs and what happened with that
over the last year or so, with even the threat
of tariffs, these vaults clearing out in Europe and the
repatriation of silver, it messed up a lot of contracts.

(01:44:20):
The price got skewed. I think that's what you're looking
at right now. We're nearing another all time high for silver,
and I think once that breaks out and the gold
silver ratio resets, right now.

Speaker 12 (01:44:33):
It's artificial, Travis.

Speaker 10 (01:44:34):
I mean, we can do the math here alive on
air if you want on the gold silver ratio, But
it's not supposed to be you know, eighty or ninety
to one. It's supposed to be somewhere between ten and twenty.
And that's just historically. I don't find any evidence it's
ever been like this in any part of our history.

(01:44:56):
So I think what we're seeing is a march, a
new all time high, and just based off of economic
you know, I think realism. And and again the dollar
based off the last all time high, you know, the
fifty two dollars and fifty cents an ounce in nineteen eighty.

(01:45:17):
We we discount that. I mean, we think of that
in terms as of today. That would be like three
hundred dollars today or something like that in purchasing power.
So the silver's got a long way to go before
it revaluates. I think we're gonna start seeing I mean,
there could be pullbacks and sell offs, Travis, there always is,
there's always profit taking. But I think that we're starting

(01:45:40):
to see a silver hab its day.

Speaker 12 (01:45:43):
It's finally it's finally coming around.

Speaker 10 (01:45:45):
All these years and all the silver bugs and everybody
that's been predicting silver have as a breakout, I think
it's finally going to do that, and then I think
this time it sticks.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
Yeah, it's it's been a long time coming. Like you said,
it's been a over three decades since it's all time.
I was was it forty five years? You said? Since then?
Which is I think it's forty years, forty five years,
which again points to points to something being a little
bit screwy with the markets. But they can't they can't

(01:46:16):
keep it depressed forever. Got a comment here from Pezivante says,
the US debt clock is at thirty seven trillion in counting.
We actually talked about a story the other day where
they pointed out that when you take into account the way,
the screwy way the US government actually counts debt, it's
more like one hundred and fifty one trillion dollars because

(01:46:37):
they don't count debt if they don't have an established
plan or way to pay it back, something along those lines.
So as long as they're not planning on it, they
don't have a way allocated, they don't count it yet.
And so as if things weren't bad enough with thirty
seven trillion dollars worth, it's actually closer to one hundred
and fifty one trillion, which I mean that speaks to

(01:46:59):
me to the fact that they are genuinely going to
move US towards a stable coin or a central CBDC
of some kind, because one hundred and fifty thirty seven
trillion is it's not possible to pay back. That's too
much as is. But when you look at one hundred
and fifty one trillion, that is, you could seize the
assets of every single billionaire on the planet, every millionaire,

(01:47:21):
and I don't think you'd make a dent in it.
I don't think you would be able to pay that
off in the slightest We have reached a level of
debt that is inconceivable. Really, it is not. It's not
something anyone can fully even grasp. And so these centrals
would please go in. No, you, guys, I was going.

Speaker 10 (01:47:41):
To say that the way I would describe the current
world financial system is terminal. And you look at the
debt to GDP ratios worldwide, or just look at the
worldwide debt public and private, it's like three hundred and
fifty trillion or some on. And then if you look
at and try to find what is the what are
the assets in the world, different programs will tell you

(01:48:05):
different things. It's like four hundred or five hundred trillion
or whatever. I mean, I don't believe those numbers, but
we're certainly at a tipping point, Travis, where the United
States and especially the Fiat currency post Bretton woods system
is dying or dead or we're just you know this
this post mortem. At this point, I mean, it's the
dollars on hospice care and they're going to replace it

(01:48:27):
with something. And you write about stable coins. I just
read a post about it's like two hundred and fifty
six billion dollars.

Speaker 12 (01:48:38):
In dollar back stable coins.

Speaker 10 (01:48:41):
At this point, it's just the beginning of stable coins,
and look for goldback stable coins and other things. The
whole system has to be and they and they tell
you this has to be a great bset.

Speaker 12 (01:48:53):
And so what you need to be paying attention to
is the central banks.

Speaker 10 (01:48:56):
And the players that are accumulating hard assets, and that's
gold or silver, other commodities, copper, these things that mean
the strategic reserve balances of these nations. That's what you're
going to be looking for because everything I believe is
going to be reset into something else, and because they
can't continue just printing more. And you can do it

(01:49:19):
for a long long time, but eventually you just have
this tipping point when I think that there's a lot
of economists that believe it's one hundred and thirty percent
of debt to GDP is some sort of like it's
just a diminishing returns and you can no longer inflate
the bubbles and you just have this, you know, start
implementing austerity measures and cut back. So we're going to

(01:49:41):
see a lot of that happening. So right now, I
think is an accumulation phase and we're up, you know,
year over year, continuing to see central banks buying gold
and that's driving a lot of the gold price. But
I think we're also seeing the gold price reset based
off of reality and like what you know, figuring out
that the currency de jure of the dollar is not

(01:50:03):
really really strong.

Speaker 12 (01:50:06):
It's not a strong dollar, it's a fay go.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
Yeah. The yeah, As you said, you can only deny
reality for so long, no matter no matter who the
players are, no matter how much influence they have. Eventually,
you know, the truth comes back to bite you. It
comes home to roost. And that's what their account you
would think, you know, they've made a lot of money,

(01:50:28):
but when it comes down to what they really really
want is control, and the stable coins give them that.
It allows them, as we've talked about before, the ability
to just turn off all your money to make it evaporate.
You're not going to be able to keep, you know,
a stable coin in your mattress, hold on to it.
If they dislike you, if they decide that you've said
something that they don't appreciate, or you know whatever, for

(01:50:49):
any reason at all, maybe a glitch happens in the system,
the AI automation thing decides, oh well, it confuses you
with someone else, or hallucinates that you're you know, a
terrorist of some kind, and deletes your entire savings account.
This is what they're really aiming for. Got A comment
from David Knight says Trump's punishing sanctions on India will

(01:51:11):
actually strengthen bricks. These sanctions are they're not going to
make us better friends with India. They're going it's not
going to bring them back to us. This is going
to drive them into the arms of the bricks nations.
The thing that I found interesting was that he was
talking about or the headlines I so we're talking about
the fact that India buys a lot of Russian military surplus,

(01:51:34):
you know, equipment, whether it's jets or tanks or things
like that, or weapons they buy them from Russia. And
so it makes me wonder if the military industrial complex
is sitting there thinking, Hey, how come Russia is the
one that gets to sell them all this stuff. We've
got a lot of old surplus that we'd like to
get rid of. You know, the America is going to
be buying new toys. Maybe we can get those few

(01:51:54):
billion Indians over there to buy ours, which I could definitely.
I can imagine that they're looking at it going I
would like some of that Indian money myself. But India,
the world is changing, and the bricks nations again, they
don't have to live in fear of the American you know,

(01:52:17):
economic hegemony like they used to.

Speaker 12 (01:52:20):
It's exactly right, Travis.

Speaker 10 (01:52:21):
I mean, you look, the bricks are emerging, and I
don't think that it's because they want to have a
competing currency with the dollar or anything. I think they just
want to be free of the Western dollar hegemony. I
think they want to be free of the threat of sanctions.
I think they want to have their own systems, and
that's cross border payments and other things, just so they

(01:52:43):
can have trade. And we saw that really kick off
with the sanctions placed on Russia after the invasion of
Ukraine and what happened with that, and the'se got I
think these governments are watching this going wow, Okay, NATO
wanted this to happen, they go did it into happening.
They've been pressing it for years and years. Finally they
get the invasion they want. Then they put the sanctions

(01:53:04):
on Russia because they want that enemy. And it didn't
work because of a lot of the Russians started trading directly,
you know, for you know, gold for oil and things
like that with the Chinese or the Indians. And I
think that's looking at India and we you know, a
few years ago, it looked like it was a certainty
we're going to have India in our column as far

(01:53:26):
as a trading partner and other things. We don't make
good deals anymore, and we're not being we're not we're
not attractive here.

Speaker 12 (01:53:33):
We're not we're not bringing.

Speaker 10 (01:53:35):
In new innovation and new factories and new investment. We
look at schizophrenic on the world stage. So I don't
think this is going It's not going well.

Speaker 12 (01:53:48):
We're not.

Speaker 10 (01:53:48):
We're not winning so much that I want to beg
for the president to stop because I don't see the winning.
I just see a lot of uncertainty, and I don't
understand you know, if you wanted to bring these nations
into the fold and I trade with them, you know,
one hundred percent tariff.

Speaker 12 (01:54:05):
For not using the dollar?

Speaker 10 (01:54:07):
Is wea weaponization of the dollar by other means tariffs
because you trade with Russia. That's what that's about. By
the way, it's about the trading with Russia. It's and
you know it's Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. The
bricks already have a trading platform in and of themselves.
So you know, we're instead of cutting a better deal,

(01:54:28):
or or being more attractive to investment or you know,
currency swaps, whatever we're doing.

Speaker 12 (01:54:35):
This is the trend.

Speaker 10 (01:54:36):
Is we're just pushing and becoming more isolation isolationists. And
this is this is true isolationism. By the way, So
that I don't support I've long since been an economic nationalism.
I may abandon that. I may have been wrong. Maybe
it doesn't work. Maybe maybe it worked.

Speaker 12 (01:54:52):
In a bygone era where you had people with.

Speaker 10 (01:54:56):
The character to see it through or to implement tariffs
and use them. Perhaps we don't have that anymore, and
perhaps it just needs to be you know, free for
all and the Darwinian survival of the fittest when it
comes to business, which we really don't have that either.
We have crony capitalism and socialism for the for the rich,

(01:55:18):
and free enterprise for everybody else. So I don't know,
it's it's very disturbing to watch because there's there's weaknesses
in the economy like I've never seen before. It's because
it's it's papered over by a facade of Wall Street
and you know, so called strengthen the dollar and other numbers,
but there is some fundamental weaknesses right now, and you

(01:55:40):
don't you go out and you see that just in
working class people because we talk to them every day
with my business and wolf Pack and other things, and
people are just trying to stay ahead to the ball
and it's harder and harder to do so. So I
don't understand why we would be making it harder for
giant economies to do business with us.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
Yeah, Like you're talking about interacting with normal people and
just seeing the kind of anxiety and the tension everyone
is kind of under. When me and my wife go out,
I tend to just interact with people and chat with
them just because I'm I don't know, I feel like
everyone is kind of a friend in waiting. You know,
anyone you can chat with, you can make a friend
out of. So I'll force myself into conversations with people

(01:56:23):
and the level of just like, oh, you know, we're
you know, we're surviving, we're making it. You know, there's
very little hope for the future from in the people
that I talk to. When we go places. It's always
just kind of like a well, you know, it's day
to day. We're here, we're we're you know, we're still alive.
Seems to be the general consensus from the people that

(01:56:46):
I meet. And this is you know, from people in
their you know, forties, fifties, all the way down to
you know, kids you know that are fresh out of
high school, you know, nineteen twenty years old. It's this
general sense of everything. Everyone everywhere knows something is wrong
and can feel it. And you know, this isn't the

(01:57:09):
America of the past, where there's a lot of hope,
and there's a lot of people out there that think, yeah,
you know, the American dream, even if you subscribe to
just the you know, plastic American dream of like I'm
gonna have my big house and my two cars, and
you know, I'm gonna be rich, Like that's gone. Nobody
really feels that still exists. It is a sense of
I really hope I can make enough money to just survive. Yes,

(01:57:33):
And you know, when I was a kid, you know,
there was some sense that things were kind of weighted.
There was you know, it was unfair, but it was
nothing like this. There was not this general just malaise
and distrust and anxiety about the system we all live under.

Speaker 10 (01:57:53):
No, there wasn't. And there always seemed to be that
something was going to get better. You had, you know,
under Reagan was morning in America. And you know, after
the Jimmy Carter malaise and people didn't I don't think that,
you know, it wasn't taught what happened to us in
the seventies. You know, there's there's that great website wtf
happened in nineteen seventy one? Now, with all the stats

(01:58:14):
and facts and figures both sociologically and economically, what happened
to us after we decoupled from any sort of value
in our currency and went to a free floating fiat currency.

Speaker 12 (01:58:26):
I think that's very important.

Speaker 10 (01:58:27):
What happened in the seventies spilled into our politics and
into our culture, and then they took hold of that
a bit and manipulated it very well.

Speaker 12 (01:58:37):
I think in the eighties with the Laugher curve.

Speaker 10 (01:58:40):
You know, you had Art Laugher of the economists with Reagan,
and it was trickled down economics, and I mean, there
is some validity to that, at least in the short term.

Speaker 12 (01:58:48):
But we started losing more and more of America's soul with.

Speaker 10 (01:58:51):
Economic you know, economic treason if you want to call
it that, with the offshoring of jobs and free trade
and other things. And it really took off in the
nineties with NAFTA, and there's just been this pouring of America.
I mean, it's harder and harder to stay middle class,
harder and harder to get ahead, and that's because you
have diminishing value in the currency. So you're constantly having

(01:59:15):
to go around and how's value for your energy? Because
money is How's energy, and so your work is energy
everything that you do. It's kind of philosophical, but it
really is true. And I found that to hold water,
especially in my business and what I see every day.
But yes, you're right, and we get to twenty twenty
five and we're in this I think end cycle of

(01:59:39):
whatever it was, the experiment in nineteen seventy one, that's
coming to a close. We're also you know, your dad
has been a great teacher on this about the fourth
turning and cyclical history. And I think this is that
whatever this culmination is, those indivents into the institutions that
were set in motion eighty years ago, and that's a

(02:00:00):
basically Breton Woods. You know that the financial new world
order there in nineteen forty four. So all that's coming
to a conclusion.

Speaker 12 (02:00:09):
That will be a new thing. Start to watch the.

Speaker 10 (02:00:12):
Trends we mentioned earlier, the two hundred and fifty six
billion and dollar back stable coins, that's something to watch.
Look at what Blackrock did with the bitcoin ETFs.

Speaker 12 (02:00:23):
Why did they do that?

Speaker 10 (02:00:25):
You know, it's most successful ETF and history, It's massive inflows.
You got Larry Fink from from Blackrock going out and
saying that bitcoin is going to be trading at seven
hundred thousand.

Speaker 12 (02:00:36):
Pay attention to that.

Speaker 10 (02:00:38):
There's a reason why they're building that infrastructure and then quietly,
quietly not telling you there's no PSA on gold and
silver accumulation. But that's what governments are doing. That's what
central banks are doing. So there's going to be I
think a reckoning as sooner or later. And most of

(02:00:59):
the regular folk, it is so so much of a
massive change, uh, Travis. And you look at the advent
of things like AI and I'm so I'm catching up.
I'm reading some books on it and catching up on
because it was just dumped.

Speaker 12 (02:01:15):
In our lap. I mean, I'm sure it's been around
for decades.

Speaker 10 (02:01:18):
It's a you know, an extension of DARPA or something
else that they've had, or a breakaway society whatever they've
had for a long time. And this we're getting like
a little taste of it, and it's going to fundamentally
change everything about society and jobs and the economy. Because
if you haven't unders if you don't understand that at

(02:01:40):
this point it is going to get you're gonna get
left behind. Yeah, and so this is, uh, this is
going to be, you know, an interesting time, unfortunately, a
very stressful time. But people, I think there's just we're
just on the horizon of that, right, just on the
we're just on the edge and the precipice of where
it just the floodgates open and then the change starts

(02:02:01):
to pour. In and unfortunately whatever this is, you know,
from the executive branch, isn't helping.

Speaker 2 (02:02:09):
I agree. What I've been saying about AI is, you know,
certain people they're going back and forth of it's you know,
it's going to change everything in certain people saying like,
oh no, it'll never be company. You know, they're never
gonna implement it's not competent, it's not this, it's not that.
And I keep saying, it just has to be good
enough to save them a little bit of money in
wherever they want to implement it. Once the cost benefit

(02:02:29):
analysis works out in their favor, if it saves them
money over having a person they're working, it doesn't matter
if you know they lose a couple of customers here
and there because of it, they will always take that deal.
If Amazon can put robots in there into their warehouses
and kick a person out of a job, Now, if
they save money, that's what matters. It doesn't matter if

(02:02:52):
they screw up slightly more orders or anything along those lines.
It is simply a cost benefit analysis to them. And
once it works out out, once it reaches that tipping
point where you know it's better, no matter how slightly
better it is that's when all hell breaks loose. We've
got a few comments here for you, says Steve Evs says,

(02:03:14):
I'm in wise wolf gold, very happy. I just wish
that had a monthly plan that was, say, sixty five
to seventy dollars per month. I could and would do that.
So you've got a request, Tony. They want Steve Evs
wants a sixty five to seventy dollars per month plan.

Speaker 12 (02:03:30):
Well you could do.

Speaker 10 (02:03:30):
I mean you could do a wolf cub and a
lone wolf and that would be eighty five.

Speaker 12 (02:03:36):
So you could just do those together.

Speaker 5 (02:03:38):
I know what.

Speaker 10 (02:03:39):
They don't want to do the two plans, but yeah,
maybe we should have something like that. Harder and harder
to find metals to fit in there, though, it's like
for those dollar amounts, because I would try to. You know,
we can't do gold anymore on the lower tiers. I
used to be able to do a little bit of
gold in the Warrior at one twenty five. Can't do
that much anymore. It's harder to find that fractional gold
that I can do that we do goldbacks, but still

(02:04:02):
a good idea.

Speaker 12 (02:04:04):
Well see if we can implement that.

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
We also have Toronador. Thank you for the tip, Tornado
really to appreciate, he says, for the nukes or fake crowd,
I'd like to hear Tony's take again. Before you came on,
we were talking about the eightieth anniversary of Hiroshima and
the horror of what we did to the Japanese and
so I know some people out there believe nukes are fake.
So what's your take on that, Tony? What's your take

(02:04:29):
on nuclear weapons?

Speaker 12 (02:04:32):
Well, let's see my grandfather, Nick Davis.

Speaker 10 (02:04:37):
He was the vice president of a weapons division at
Texas Instruments.

Speaker 12 (02:04:41):
I've talked to your dad about this and we talked
about it on air.

Speaker 10 (02:04:46):
He was part of the hydrogen bomb experiments in the
early nineteen fifties while he was a young marine and
wrote He wrote me letters about this. We talked about
it extensively throughout his life. He lost his life to
cancer eventually because of the exposure of radiation and the

(02:05:06):
hydrogen bombs. I've told the story on air before, but
he mentioned it.

Speaker 12 (02:05:12):
He had no gear. They would put him in.

Speaker 10 (02:05:14):
Him and his squad they take him out in places
like the desert in Nevada or whatever where they were
testing and they would detonate the bomb. They tell him
to put his arm over his eyes, and he said
he could see the bones in his arm because of
the blast. And eventually he had to have his right
leg removed at the hip because he had cancer in

(02:05:37):
his hip and they had to take it off. I
was a little boy when I went to go visit
in the hospital for all his cancer surgeries.

Speaker 12 (02:05:45):
But he was a brilliant man.

Speaker 10 (02:05:47):
And I look back and I think about his life,
and you know, all the things that he went through.

Speaker 12 (02:05:51):
He was a cold warrior.

Speaker 10 (02:05:52):
He died right before I was deployed to Iraq in
two thousand and three. So when I see people say
that nukes aren't real and that comes out of the
flat earth stuff, I don't know why that.

Speaker 12 (02:06:06):
Has to where they came up with.

Speaker 10 (02:06:08):
I'm sure somebody's chuckling in a basement of the NSSAY
somewhere every time they release one of these things that
you're supposed to believe, because, like you know, you look
at alternative media and what it's turning into. It's like, well,
nothing's real, nothing matters, and it's nihilism.

Speaker 12 (02:06:25):
You know, if you don't know history, then.

Speaker 10 (02:06:27):
It's what did Voltaire say, those who can make you
believe absurdities can have you commit atrocities.

Speaker 12 (02:06:37):
You have to be careful.

Speaker 10 (02:06:38):
When you redo history that things never happen or don't
exist or there. You know, there's all these beliefs and
things that I think that are just total nonsense. That's
one of them. So you know, you can get mad
at me all you want. I literally talk to my grant.
He wasn't an actor. He didn't make it up, you know,

(02:06:59):
he was part of a I think a very danger
I mean, what how do you explain Oppenheimer? You know,
do you are these all actors? Did everybody just make
everything up? So I find that just to be dangerous,
and uh, you know, I'm sure I'll get some heat
for it, but none of those people like me anyway.

Speaker 12 (02:07:17):
I'm never I'm never fringe enough for them, even though
I don't know. I go on some pretty you know, I.

Speaker 10 (02:07:24):
Go into some deep rabbit holes with stuff, but never
fringe enough for those captured in the fulcrum of whatever
cy war operative put that in their head.

Speaker 2 (02:07:35):
Yeah, I've uh, I've I've had people get angry at
me because just like they'll say, the earth is flat
and I'll say, like, I don't believe that, But if
you want to believe the Earth is flat, you know,
I that's fine, You're you're allowed to. I don't see
anything you know, wrong with that if you want to.
But they'll get very very mad at me for not
believing with them.

Speaker 12 (02:07:54):
And it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:07:56):
The thing that always gets me is just like like
there are certain like there lies the government that I
can understand, Like the lie about nine to eleven. I
can understand why they lie about that. I can lie.
I can understand why they would lie about wanting to
go to the moon. You know, they are trying to
defeat Russia in this. It's a very you know, you know,
bankrupt Russia. They say they get to the moon first,
they get to win the optics war. You know, I
can understand why they would lie about WMD's and going
into Iraq. What do they gain by lying about the

(02:08:18):
Earth being flat? And I've never heard a at least
satisfactory answer on my end to that. Again, if you
if someone believes the Earth is flat, that's you're allowed to.
I've just never heard evidence that was fully convincing for me.

Speaker 10 (02:08:34):
Or lying about nukes. Think about this, if you don't
know history, then that kind of makes sense. But if
you go back to I mean, your dad's talked about HG. Wells,
you know, HG. Wells went to his grave thinking that
my mankind was doomed, you know, like he was on
the precipice of US obtaining nuclear weapons. And before that though,
and you know, he wrote that book Things to Come

(02:08:56):
that was all about people were afraid of a cataclysmic
war between nations.

Speaker 12 (02:09:03):
This is before nuclear weapons.

Speaker 10 (02:09:04):
You could you could still scare people, like the whole
logic that there's nukes, like there is no nukes and
they use them to like keep you corralled or like
a sort of damocles. Well, actually they've kept somewhat of
the peace in a very ironic way.

Speaker 12 (02:09:19):
We probably would have had more kinetic nation nation to nation.

Speaker 10 (02:09:23):
Warfare over the past seventy plus years had there not
been nukes. And I don't and I'm for zero nuclear
weapons just like Ronald Reagan was. I mean, don't I
want zero nukes. I don't think that there they deserve
a purpose other than fear, and I think they do
create fear. But if you don't know history, people were

(02:09:44):
afraid of, you know, cataclysms and armageddon throughout history, you know,
even World War One, and you go back and William
Butler Yates, you know, wrote this that poem the Second Coming.
You know it's slouching towards Bethlehem. You know it's this
was they believe this was like the coming of Armageddon

(02:10:05):
and the end of days. So this before news. I
think you can get a lot accomplished just through standard
regular fear.

Speaker 12 (02:10:13):
You don't need to create a hobbobblin.

Speaker 2 (02:10:15):
I agree, we've got a few comments here. I know
we're a bit over time, or you get to run
through these comments real fast on it. Don't frag me.
Bro says bricks is a bunch of comedies and people
actually think it'd be a good deal. Fonsie Bear respond says,
bricks is the world's answer to the US Hegemony's like, yeah,
they're all a bunch of you know, shady communist nations.
But when they think they can get a better deal

(02:10:37):
working with each other than with the United States, you
know you have a problem. When these notoriously shifty, untrustworthy
countries look at each other and go, yeah, we can
probably work together on something if it means getting away
from the United States. That's a signal of some kind.

Speaker 10 (02:10:54):
Well, we've done this to ourselves, and we made ourselves
We've isolated with through our sanctions and the bullying and
and everything else, the coercion, twisting arms.

Speaker 12 (02:11:09):
It's inevitable that this happened. And this is just happening.

Speaker 10 (02:11:11):
It's happened in foreign policy, and now it's happening in
the economic policy. And so yeah, I mean this is
all at the end of the day, the future is
in assets and hard assets, and who controls that. It's
rare earth minerals, it's going to be gold, it's silver,
it's copper, copper. Really, I mean having a massive gain

(02:11:35):
right now because it's the glue of civilization. So these things,
you know, who controls the the the commodities and the
routes to those and the ability to trade back and forth,
will we have a much better advantage in this century.
And the United States has just isolated itself and not

(02:11:56):
been competitive, and it will have a consequence.

Speaker 2 (02:12:01):
And of course we've seen China with things like the
Belton Road Initiative. They have made it their mission to
extract as much and gain access to as many rare
earth minerals as they can. In places like Africa, that
has been sort of they're guiding light in these areas
where you know, all right, you know we're going to
give you this, and then when you can't pay, what
means we get all your natural resources. They have been

(02:12:24):
very very keen on making sure they have access to those.
They have not put all their eggs in one basket.
Knights of the Storm says money is stored labor done
in advance. Inflation is a tax on that stored labor. Life.
Inflation just eats away at whatever you are able to put,
whatever you're able to store in the bank. You know,

(02:12:44):
there's cities. It's funny, in my lifetime, there has never
been a savings account that has kept up with inflation
or even close to it. Putting money in the bank
is just it's not even worth it anymore.

Speaker 9 (02:12:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:12:59):
It's just like why would I do this? If you're
putting money in the bank, it is simply asking the
government to steal all your value away. And it's just
you know, even as a kid, you know, they tell like,
oh wow, this is a high yield interest rate. It's
you know, one point five percent or something that You're like,
what are you talking about? Even as a kid, You're like,
this doesn't make any sense. No, don't frag me. Bro says,

(02:13:21):
if anything, then will be feudial with lords that own
and control areas with resources back to turn the money
into the early eleven hundreds or our current history. The
wild West feudal system is what he sees coming.

Speaker 12 (02:13:34):
I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (02:13:35):
Yeah, the people are getting the world is getting less safe.
We see it all over the place. There's every day
there's some kind of story about how dangerous the cities
are becoming. And uh, it's probably gonna be more dangerous
than the Wild West ever was you know, Tony where

(02:13:56):
about fourteen minutes over time? And I know you've got
other stuff going on. Will you be doing your broadcast today?

Speaker 10 (02:14:02):
Yes, we'll be live on the America Unplug channel over
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Speaker 12 (02:14:09):
We're going to do the Ardburn Radio transmission.

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So come join if you if you can, we'd appreciate
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Once we finish over here. I want to thank you
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We will take a quick break and we will be

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Speaker 1 (02:19:16):
All right, joining us now.

Speaker 13 (02:19:17):
We're honored to have a pastor Chuck Baldwin of Liberty
Fellowship in Montana. You can find the website at Libertyfellowship,
mt from Montana dot com. Also Chuck Baldwin live dot com.
Thank you for joining us, Sir.

Speaker 14 (02:19:33):
David, it's quickly with you. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:19:35):
It's been a long time since we've talked.

Speaker 13 (02:19:37):
Because of timing and scheduling and things like that, you're
only able to do interviews in the afternoon. I wasn't
able to do that at info Wars, but we're able
to do that here.

Speaker 1 (02:19:48):
So I want to get.

Speaker 13 (02:19:49):
You back on with what is happening now. You've got
a book that you're selling at your website. We'll get
into that in a little bit. But last time I
interviewed you, we talked about a the book that you
and your son had done, Romans thirteen, and it seems
like people did not understand Romans thirteen or I don't

(02:20:10):
think that we would have gone through what we went
through in twenty twenty with lockdown churches and all the
rest of this stuff. I remember when we talked, you know,
the standard line was you do whatever the government says
unless they start infringing on your religious freedom.

Speaker 1 (02:20:26):
And said the time, I.

Speaker 13 (02:20:29):
Don't believe that they're going to stand up for their
religious freedom if they take that tact. And of course
we saw when the lockdown happened under Trump, that they
didn't tell us a little bit about your opinion about
what happened with that and the aftermath of it.

Speaker 14 (02:20:47):
Well, I think what we saw was exactly the open
demonstration of what you and I had discussed. Yeah, that
is the false into potation of Romans thirteen. And you
alluded to the book that my attorney's son and I wrote,
Romans thirteen the True Meaning of Submission, and we took

(02:21:10):
all of the verses in well not all, but the
vast majority of the verses in both Testaments Old and
Knew to show that nowhere does God command his people
to submit to evil authority, and that doctrine of submission
to civil authority, per the first couple of verses of

(02:21:32):
Woman Chapter thirteen, has made sheepy servants of the state
out of what should have been and once were courageous,
bold men of God, unafraid to speak truth to power
and to resist the attempts of those in authority to

(02:21:54):
make slaves out of God's people. We are servants to
only one, and that's Jesus. Cris So, I think that
the doctrine, the false doctrine of Romans thirteen, as it
has been taught in the not a part of the
twentieth century, and the twenty first century has produced exactly

(02:22:16):
everything that we saw a demonstrated during the COVID tyranny.
And I think the evidence of that still continues today.
But you know, before, you know, it was always about
something that they consider to be non biblical. You know,
if you are talking about abortion, if you are talking
about the intrusion of our Fourth Amendment liberties and invasion

(02:22:40):
of our privacy and the Second Amendment and all of
these these issues, constitutional issues, these Romans thirteen. Preachers in
Christians would say, well, you know, God has called me
to preach the Gospel, and I'm not going to preach that.
I'm not going to get involved in all these quote
unquote political things. And when you know, when they mean
I can't preach the Gospel, then then I'll show you know,

(02:23:03):
some resistance. And they would, they would po who any
attempt to stand for basic fundamental God given liberties, and
they use onmost thirteen as a cop out. Well, then
COVID came along and guess what they said. You can't
meet in your church services, you can't preach, you can't assemble,

(02:23:28):
you can't observe your Resurrection day services, observe the birth
of Christ. I mean, all these are now, these are
not constitutional issues. These are you know, basic fundamental biblical issues.

(02:23:48):
And pastors just rolled over shut the churches, didn't have have,
you know, their meetings, They shut down their operations entirely,
and they they prove that they are truly nothing more
than slaves of the state. I think that was a

(02:24:08):
great wake up call to the condition of the church.

Speaker 13 (02:24:11):
I agree, and a big part of that is that
they want to at all costs avoid any kind of
political controversy. You don't do that, and I appreciate that
you speak to what people are living in their daily
life and you say, this is how we think the
biblical principles apply here. And I think that is something
that sadly missing in most of the church. And we
had a lot of people. There were a few churches

(02:24:35):
that never closed, and I interviewed some of those pastors.
There were some churches that closed for a while then
kind of came to their senses or whatever and reopened up.
And some of them talked about the fact that they
got it wrong, that they interpreted that wrong, and they
would never do it again. But there were some very
big churches that did not go back, even though they

(02:24:57):
opened up, and even though they had fights, they never
went back and corrected their commentaries or their statements on
their website or what they told people about Romans thirteen.
And I think that's very important. Yeah, I mean, we
can all make mistakes. We can all make mistakes, but
we need to be public about it. And the way
I look at it, a lot of people who shut

(02:25:19):
down for four or five months and then opened up
and then got into big fights with the government over it,
they just kind of ignored what had happened those first
four or five months. I think that's kind of like
a pastor who's been caught an adulterous affair just kind
of say, well, let's forget about that.

Speaker 1 (02:25:33):
We'll move on.

Speaker 15 (02:25:35):
You know.

Speaker 14 (02:25:36):
Yeah, it's hard for I don't know why, but we've
reached a point in our in our history were I
don't know, somehow it's a sign of weakness or something
if you acknowledge that you were wrong and what you
taught from the pulpit. I mean, I've reme into this

(02:25:58):
with the designers issue big, big time. That's you know,
but you know, for example, there was John MacArthur, who
recently passed away, a pastor of a large church in
southern California, well known writer and broadcaster. He was a

(02:26:19):
man that four decades throughout his career he would impune
pastors around the country who would resist governmental usurpation of
their power to intrude upon the freedom of speech and

(02:26:40):
the freedom of religion, and go forth on even the
freedom of assembly in certain cases, and he would castigate
them as being disobedient to Romans thirteen. And he was
one of the most foremost advocates of the false document

(02:27:00):
of Romans thirteen in the country. And because of his influence,
he impacted a lot of fellow pastors. Then when COVID
hit and his church was hit personally there in California,
you know how California was about everything, and so he

(02:27:23):
actually reversed his position on that issue, and he challenged
the authority of the state of California to close his
church and so forth, and he actually was willing to
go to court to find it. So I admire him
for doing that. But Bill, to your point, he never
one time during all that period of contest between him

(02:27:48):
and the State of California He never one time public
had got up and said, you know I was wrong
in the past. You know, all these other issues that
men of God were, you know, we're fighting a long
time before I thought this issue. Yeah, you know, they
were fighting issues of freedom and faith for a long time,
and some of them were paying a very heavy price

(02:28:10):
for resisting, and he never took their side. He always
condemned them for violating when I was thirteen. Now he's
doing the same thing, and he's resisting the you.

Speaker 1 (02:28:21):
Know the I remember when that happened.

Speaker 13 (02:28:23):
State he shut down from what was at March till
about in July or whatever, and then they opened up
I think really the final straw when they said all right,
all right, you can get together, but you can't sing.
It's like, okay, we're done with this nonsense. But like
you said, he didn't go back and change his commentaries
or anything. And a year later you had Todd Friel,

(02:28:47):
who was also fairly well known on YouTube and on
the places and very connected to MacArthur. As they were
getting ready to roll out the vaccine mandates in September,
he said, and again you know the Romans thirteen line,
And he said, and look, John MacArthur says this, this
is this, and I played the clip and I said, yeah,

(02:29:09):
but that's not what John MacArthur's been doing for the
last year. Maybe you need to take a look at
the difference between what he said in his former commentaries
and what he's actually doing today. And I thought that
was what cod Friel said. I call him pinwheel freel
because he said, if government tells you wear pinwheels on
your head, you wear pinwheels on your head. It's like, yeah,
but you don't have to become a pincushion for a

(02:29:33):
poisonous kool aid Injection's that's the insanity of all this stuff.
But yeah, I think when I look at it, let
me get you your take on this, I look at
it as from a political sphere. When they become when
they're installed in their office, government employees swear to pull
the Constitution, and so their authority comes from the Constitution

(02:29:57):
and it comes from their.

Speaker 1 (02:30:00):
To it.

Speaker 13 (02:30:00):
And if they are in rebellion to the Constitution, they
don't have any authority. And I see Romans thirteen in
the same way that you know Roma's thirteen. He talks
about authority coming from God. He's established these governments. Well,
how do we know if it's a legitimate government. Well,
we can take a look at what they're doing. And
if what they're doing is in a rebellion to God,

(02:30:23):
then they don't have authority. It's just like if they
were rebelling against the Constitution. What do you think I.

Speaker 4 (02:30:30):
Mean?

Speaker 14 (02:30:31):
In our book, we make that, We make that very
clear that Romans thirteen was not giving a blank check
to civil authority to run roughshod over the God given
liberties of the people. In fact, that that same passage

(02:30:53):
in Romans chapter thirteen that talks in the early verses
about submitted to the higher power to keep reading, and
they always stop at verse two. But when you keep
reading it like for example of verse three, for rulers,

(02:31:13):
civil rulers are not a terror to good works, but
to evil.

Speaker 5 (02:31:19):
That's right.

Speaker 14 (02:31:20):
Well, no, then be afraid the power do that which
is good. That's out praise are the same, for he
is the verse four, he is the minister of God
to be for good. So at the same time that
almost thirteen tells us to admit to government, it's telling
government that government has the responsibility to be good, righteous

(02:31:43):
and just in their implementation of law. And if they
are not good, righteous, and just in their implication of law,
there is no implication in the duty of the Christian
to submit to that evil. I mean, so that's like saying, Okay,

(02:32:03):
if the government commands you to do such and such,
which is obviously evil, unjust, immoral, et cetera, you have
no moral authority to submit to that. In fact, you
have a moral authority to resist that.

Speaker 1 (02:32:19):
I agree.

Speaker 14 (02:32:20):
Well, that's a part of the entire passage. So it's
a twofold. You know, it's a responsibility on government to
be good and righteous adjust and when government is good, righteous, unjust,
and you should have the support of the people. But
when government is not good, righteous and just, it should

(02:32:41):
not have supported the people. So that is clearly defined
in Romancepter thirteen as well, because I just choose to
skip over those verses.

Speaker 13 (02:32:50):
Yes, yes, I absolutely agree. While we're talking about civil government,
we just had the eightieth anniversary of Hiroshima. I'm curious
to get your take on this and if you think
that fits in And what I look we talk about
frequently is a just war theory, which was something that's
been put out by many Christians trying to restrain the

(02:33:14):
evil of war as much as possible, and trying to
restrain the way that it's conducted and the conditions under
which it has fought.

Speaker 1 (02:33:23):
How do you view Hiroshima.

Speaker 2 (02:33:28):
All.

Speaker 14 (02:33:28):
I think it was one of the greatest greatest tragedies
in US history. I think it's I agree, it is
an everlasting blight on the reputation of a nation that
was supposed to be in the city on the hill,
the nation that at the standard of good government, honesty

(02:33:50):
in government, righteousness and government as a protector of humanity,
a protector of life, a protector of them all, everything
that America was stolid on, you know, the goodness of
government and the righteousness and the accountability of government to

(02:34:13):
we the people. And they were straight on government by
the Constitution and the rule of law over the will
of man, and all these principles upon which America was founded.
When we dropped those bombs on Lagazaki and Niroshima, atomic bombs.

(02:34:34):
By the way, we're the only nation in the history
of the world that was ever used in them. Yes,
what a reputation.

Speaker 1 (02:34:42):
And on a civilian target as well. That's the key thing,
isn't it.

Speaker 13 (02:34:46):
The civilians right, and they're not a civilian target. And
I think that's the key thing, isn't it The fact
that and that was that was really kind of a
hallmark turning point I think in World War Two of
attacking civilians and both sides did it. There was a
bombing of London, then they retaliated with Dresden and Hiroshima
and Nagasaki, and it's really heinous. It's something that I

(02:35:08):
think Western civilization kind of went straight down the tubes
with that.

Speaker 1 (02:35:13):
We haven't recovered since then.

Speaker 14 (02:35:16):
No, In fact, I think we're still seeing it being
played out today in the genocide and.

Speaker 1 (02:35:20):
Gossa, yes, exactly.

Speaker 14 (02:35:21):
And the way that the American government is supporting the
laws and slaughter of genocide, identic cleansing, all of the
above committed by Israel with America's total support. We're supplying
the weapons, the bombs, the missiles, the munitions, with the
intelligence you know, c I, A and Masada working hand

(02:35:43):
in hand to implement all of this atrocity. And you know,
all that I think is just a continuation of what
happened at the end of World War Two with the
dropping of those two ucoming bombs.

Speaker 1 (02:35:56):
That's right, we lost our way.

Speaker 14 (02:35:57):
It did more then then just kill thousdands of thousands
of civilian Japanese people. It seared the conscience of the
American government.

Speaker 1 (02:36:13):
That's a good way where the American.

Speaker 14 (02:36:15):
Government felt like, well, we have the we have the right,
We are morally superior to anyone else in the world.
We can define goodness and righteousness as we want to.
We are the exceptional nation and we have the power
to do it, and so we we can do anything
we want. And so we are seeing that today in

(02:36:38):
twenty twenty five, which is just a continuation of the
of the false war doctrine, the unjust war doctrine of
the end of World War two.

Speaker 13 (02:36:49):
I absolutely I agree. Yeah many times the excuses made
by the Pentagon and others that well, that allowed us
to end the war early. But if they had used
that against military forces, I think it would have had
the same effect. The key thing is that the targeting
of civilians, which is what we're seeing in Gaza now,

(02:37:11):
and the idea that we don't start wars now, we
start wars preemptively, and that was at the beginning of
World War two. That was something that was a day
of infamy. When the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor. Now, of
course we know that FDR stood down and invited that
in many different ways. Nevertheless, for them to initiate war

(02:37:33):
that has still been everybody understands that.

Speaker 1 (02:37:36):
You know, there's.

Speaker 13 (02:37:36):
Always an argument as to who began the war. We
see that argument playing out between Israel and Gaza. We said,
argument playing out between Russia and Ukraine. So everybody understands
that that is unjust. And what I'm concerned about when
I look at what's happening with Israel and with much
of this other stuff that Christians are cheering, is that

(02:37:57):
even atheists and pagans understand and instinctively the right and
wrong about starting wars, the right and wrong about targeting
civilians and sustaining this when there's no threat to you.
And it is really amazing to me to see Christians
who are sharing this type of thing. But of course

(02:38:17):
that is coming out of well, I think is a
bad theology. And you've got a book that addresses that,
the incredible Schofield and his book I think you have
on your website tells a little bit about that.

Speaker 14 (02:38:30):
Yeah, that is the most thoroughly documented and fully researched
biography of Cyrus Schofield ever written. And when you were
talking about what you just said that the whole emphasis
behind that is built through futurism, also called dispensationalism, also

(02:38:55):
called prison Zionism, and it was it was started not
by Schoolfield, but by a man named John Darby, who
was a generation in front of Billfield, but they overlapped
in the latter years of Darby's life and a Darby disciple,

(02:39:17):
by the way, the idea of a rapture by a
pre second coming resurrection of Christian people, that concept was
never taught in church history from the time of Jesus
all the way up until the mid eighteen hundreds. Yes,

(02:39:39):
so for over eighteen hundred years there was never a
doctrine called the rapture or dispensationalism or featuring them we'll
call what you will.

Speaker 13 (02:39:50):
And yet now that is pretty much taken over. That's
pretty much taken over in terms of American Christianity has.

Speaker 14 (02:39:55):
Oh yeah, absolutely dominant. Yeah, But the history of it
is there was a prophecy conference in Glasgow, Gotlin in
I think the year was eighteen thirty, and there was
a woman who self identified trance channeler, Margaret mnddald I

(02:40:18):
believe was the name. And she spoke in this conference
and you know this whole trans channeling stuff that's the mind,
and she went into a trance on stage and she
started to babble forth this two stage return of Christ,

(02:40:39):
with the book called Rapture being stage number one. And
that was the first time that I can find in
my research where in church history that doctrine was taught.
And it wasn't really even taught. It wasn't a pastor
getting up and expounding the scriptures. It was this demonic

(02:41:02):
trans channeler that went into a trance and you know,
said that this is what she was shown by the
spirits and all this kind of stuff. So the whole
beginning of the Rapture was demonic in my view. Well, anyway,
it was picked up by the founder of the Plymouth
brother by the name of John Darby. He became the

(02:41:23):
champion of this doctrine. He had a man that disciples
of B. S. Schofield, who was young at the time.
And Schofield was a con man. He was a fraud,
He was a thief. He spent six months in jail
for a fraud. He was a deserter of his family.

(02:41:46):
He walked out on his wife. And now we're talking.
You know, this has the mid eighteen hundreds. There was
no social security, there was no welfare, right, there were
no benefits. I mean he just left this two little
girl and his wife. He you know, gave himself a
lawyer title. He never went to law school, he never

(02:42:11):
he was never a lawyer, but he put a law
degree behind his name, and he started working in law
after his so called conversion and he got onto his
religious kick. He gave himself a theological degree that he
never earned. He never went to college. But but he

(02:42:32):
you know, if you if you look at the Schoolfield Bible,
I'll say a virus I Scholfield d d Well. That's
just the degree that he gave himself. I mean, this
man was a fraud's fraud. He was the Commn's command.
I mean he's you know, he would have made P. T.
Barnum jealous. Yeah, this and this is the guy that

(02:42:58):
founded we now know as Christmas. Ion is over Schoolfield futurisms.
And the thing is the genius of it, the thing
that made it suffice. They say, why how did this
sweep the country and become bold? You know, and seminaries
and Bible colleges and churches all across the United States.

(02:43:21):
The genius of it was, I got to explain this
to you just a minute to help you understand how
this became so popular. It didn't become popular because of
the doctrine. It didn't become popular because of what was
being said in the Bible until the time of Schofield

(02:43:41):
Bible dollars. You go back into the post Reformation days
like Adam Clark and Ala Barnes, and Matthew Henry and
John Gill and all these James and Fosset and Brown,
you name it, all these commentators. Whenever they would study
the Scripture, they would they would write their commentaries in

(02:44:06):
a separate book. They would not put their words on
the same page as the words of God, because they
had such a holy reverence for the words of God
that they felt they would be sacrilege for them to
put their words their commentaries in the same page as

(02:44:31):
the scripture. Well, therefore they would write their books in
a separate and the complete separate volume. So if you
wanted to read the Matthew Heard Commentaries, for example, the
classic foremost commentary of all the time, you would have.
You would have to have your open bottle on one
side of the desk and then your open Matthew Henry

(02:44:53):
commentary on the other side of the desk, and look
back and forth. And that's how you had to study
and learn. What go Fiel did. He ignored that and
he put his comments on the same page as the Bible,
so whenever you open the Bible, you had the scripture

(02:45:13):
versus and his commentary on the same page. Well, this
was a breakthrough in that it was such a convenience
for people. You didn't have to carry two books around,
you know, to look back and forth. You could just
open the Bible and you had the commentary and the

(02:45:33):
Bible on the same page. So it was a marketing tool.

Speaker 1 (02:45:39):
Yeah, yeah, we see that today.

Speaker 13 (02:45:40):
I walk into a Bible store and they've got a
different They got a Bible for different professions, let's say, right,
you know, or for men or for women or whatever,
and they dress up the cover and they'll have stuff
in there about the profession or this or that, and
they'll try to tie it into whatever section of the
Bible then.

Speaker 1 (02:45:58):
But it's all about market.

Speaker 14 (02:46:01):
All right, right, And all got that from Scholfield. He's
the one that started that, and that's why a big
name is so popular. It wasn't because of what he wrote.
It was because of the marketing tool in the way
that the book was published, and of course it was
financed by Oxford Press. Oxford Press was owned by Zionists.

(02:46:23):
The Zionist agenda was promoted in Scholfield's. Billfield was an
uneducated man. He never finished any kind of formal education.
He was intelligent, he was articulate. He knew how to talk,
he knew how to read. He did he did teach
himself and all that kind of thing, But he did

(02:46:45):
not know theology in any state man or form. The
only thing he knew was what he was taught by
by Darby, and he'd simply regurgitated Darbyism, which became Schoolfieldism.
During the time of Darby, he was a contemporary of
the great preacher, maybe the greatest Baptist pressure of all time,

(02:47:09):
Charles Burry, London, Zeeland. And whenever he started hearing the
doctrines of Darby and this split resurrection theory of a
pre second coming rapture, and pat built some of the
nutribulation and all this stuff, Charles Spurgeon publicly repudiated ye Darbyism,

(02:47:32):
and he warned the church if they you know, if
they followed this, it was going to lead disaster. But
when Skolf came along and published his Bible, that sealed
the deal. And then the seminaries and the Bible colleges
started picking it up, and then the passengers started picking
it up. And today eighty percent of evangelicals buy into

(02:47:55):
Persian Zionism. It's a monster.

Speaker 1 (02:47:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:48:00):
And you know, when you look at this, Christ told
us that the way we'll know false teachers and false
doctrine is by their fruit. And I would say the
fruit has been really, really bad of this. And that's
one of the things I've told people. I said, look,
you know, everybody's got their complicated eschatology charts and everything.
It's like, let's just take a look at what you're

(02:48:21):
the result of what this teaching is getting you to do.
It's getting you to cheer the starvation and murder of children.
And maybe you should go back and take a second look,
because your eschatology should not be trumping the obvious principles
are laid out in the in the Bible.

Speaker 15 (02:48:40):
For us, the legacy of cis Cofield is the gedocide
in gossip. Yeah, the slaughter everything that is happening in America,
support for it, and let's say so, let's let's be real.
I mean, there's a lot of reasons why America is

(02:49:04):
supporting this genocide and Godsia, they support anything Israel does.
And of course we all know about the Israel lobby
a PAC and you know dozens of other lobby groups
representing Israel are are literally buying the US Congress. Yes,

(02:49:27):
members of both parties. I mean the starting that that
stranglehold is starting to crack a little bit because of
the utter grotesqueness of the slaughter of the essence in Gaza.

Speaker 1 (02:49:40):
Yes, I think it was becoming.

Speaker 13 (02:49:42):
I think that along with the apparents of Ted Cruz
on with Tucker cross and I've got a lot of
issues with Tucker Crossing, but he kind of laid that
out there, just like what can you explain that? Can
you defend that? And of course he couldn't.

Speaker 1 (02:49:56):
Yeah. Uh.

Speaker 13 (02:49:56):
And I think a lot of people saw that and
start scratching their heads, saying, when maybe there's something really
wrong here, and there is there is something really wrong
that that wasn't.

Speaker 14 (02:50:06):
That wasn't an interview interview, David that was a snuff film. Uh,
I mean, uh, Tucker just just slaughtered Uh. Senator Cruns
made it look like the idiot that he is. But
you know, aside from the stranglehold of the APAC lobby

(02:50:27):
on Congress in the White House, which is massive, I'm
not diminishing that at all. I mean, it's it's it's ungodly.
The way our Congress is being bought by a foreign
government is the Israel lobby. I mean, it's it's it's unconstitutional,
it's illegal, it's a moral it's an American it's it's

(02:50:50):
it's it's everything bad in the world. You know, that's
happening through APAX and the Israel lobby.

Speaker 13 (02:50:58):
Remember when Trump said is used to home Congress, and
he said, rightfully, so they do.

Speaker 14 (02:51:03):
They do Congress, They on Congress. But but but the
reason that that's able to be successful, this is my point,
is that that couldn't work if the if the evangelical
churches of the country were not supporting it. Agree because
they're providing the moral and spiritual cover for this. You know,

(02:51:26):
if if the great notable preachers of the day, the
ones who have the giant platforms and are speaking to
hundreds of thousands of people and have the ear of
so many folks in our country. If they would stand
up and preach the truth about Israel, about the New Covenant,

(02:51:49):
about you know, what is right and wrong in the
eyes of God under the New Covenant, and the truth
about biblical Israel, expose Christians Zionism for the falsehood that
it is, and really speak truth to power, they would
be able to negate the power of the Israel lobby,

(02:52:11):
and they have the power to change the course of
the country. I'm talking about the Pulpits of America, the pastors.
This has always been the case, I agree, But because
they're providing cover morally and spiritually for what Israel is doing,
there's no incentive for anyone to change course.

Speaker 9 (02:52:32):
You know.

Speaker 14 (02:52:32):
For the longest time, I really put the blame for
this at the feet of the Pulpits.

Speaker 1 (02:52:36):
I agree.

Speaker 13 (02:52:36):
For the longest time, I've looked at these a lot
of these churches, very left wing churches that'll have their
rainbow celebrations, you know, where it's basically a worship service
for LGBT, And I look at that and it's like,
you know, that is you know what is the matter
with these people. And the people on the right, well
look at that and just shake their head and say,
you know, they have they're not worshiping Christ, worshiping something

(02:53:01):
else that is against Christ.

Speaker 1 (02:53:04):
And yet the conservatives do the same thing.

Speaker 13 (02:53:07):
We got a lot of churches like Hage's Church, who
is just basically a worship service for a political entity,
a foreign government Israel, and I see that as being
an exact correlation to what's happening with the progressive leftist
churches and what they're doing with the LGBT or with
CRT or whatever you know, DEI that type of thing.

(02:53:30):
They have their leftist ideology and they worship it, and
the right is doing that as well. And as people
are trying to speak against abortion, against child mutilation and
these other things, we've got people who are looking at
the vast majority of Christians who are applauding what's going
on in Israel because of their eschatology, and they're shaking

(02:53:53):
their heads and saying, you know, you say that you
stand for innocent life, but you don't stand for innocent
life at all. So as a reproach, as a hypocrisy
that I've seen Caitlin Johnstone, many people who are not
Christians just shaking their heads and saying, you Christians, what's
the matter with you?

Speaker 1 (02:54:09):
And I look at it and I think, what.

Speaker 13 (02:54:11):
A reproach it is to the body of Christ, What
a reproach it is to the name of the Lord
Jesus Christ for them to do this kind of stuff,
and everybody sees it. I've seen one essay after another
from people who oppose this war and saying, what's the
matter with these Christians. It reminds me of what happened
in Corinth where Paul was saying, you Christians, in this church,
you are embracing sexual practices that even the Pagans don't embrace.

(02:54:34):
And that's basically what I see happening here. They've got
a moral sense of what a justified war is, that
Christians have surrendered because of their eschatology or whatever reasons.

Speaker 14 (02:54:50):
No, You're exactly right. I have several videos that are
making the grounds on social media. A lot of people
have picked up videos, are reposting them, and some of
them are reaching hundreds of thousands and even millions of people.
And I'm making that very point. I'm saying that what's

(02:55:12):
happening in evangelicalism today is that the pastors who are
promoting Christian Zionism and their unreserved support for this godless
state of Israel is driving people away from the Gospel. Absolutely,

(02:55:34):
we're supposed to be preaching the Gospel, reaching people for
Christ with the Gospel, showing people the love of Christ,
showing people the grace of God, showing people that what
Jesus on the Cross, you know, has brought us together
as wanting in one body in Christ is neither juno
gentle or boma free. We're all want in Christ. Everyone
is equal at the Cross. And yet the doctrine of

(02:55:58):
Christian Zionism, it's separating people into cast systems, and it's
separating people away from the Gospel of Christ. And what
you're saying is it's making people sick to their stomachs
when they see the way that Christiansidy's pastors are supporting

(02:56:20):
the awful, awful atrocities that are going on every minute
of the day over there, and they're seeing the videos
of it now on social media, when we're seeing it
every day in front of our very eyes lives time,
you know, and we are seeing it, and they're looking
at the churches and they're hearing what they're saying, and

(02:56:41):
they're saying themselves that that's Christianity. I don't want it.
And a statistical fact that there are more people leaving
Evanozelical churches today than any time in our nation's history.
And that started in the year two thousand with the
wars in Iraq and Afghanistan when Bouche launched all that. Yeah,

(02:57:06):
it started then, but now then it's come to a tsunami. Yes,
it's a tsunami of people that are leaving churches and
it's driving people away from the Gospel. So it's more
here at stake than just that's right, the.

Speaker 15 (02:57:22):
Secular, more here than just the political. And it's not
just it's also impacting the spiritual I agree, iiber and
fabric of America.

Speaker 1 (02:57:31):
I agree.

Speaker 13 (02:57:32):
And it's not just the people on the outside. And
this is something that's been a problem with in the
church as well. People become so attached to the rapture
and the prophecies and all the rest of the stuff
that they'll break fellowship with you as a Christian if
you disagree with them on this, and it's it's become
the most important thing to them. And you have to say,
but wait a minute. The most important thing is the

(02:57:53):
Lord Jesus Christ. He said, you search the scriptures, you
think you have eternal life in them, but they testify
of me. That should be your hermaeneutic. That should be
the view that you approach the text with. What does
this tell me about Christ? And especially even Revelation. It's
the revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ. It's not you know,
what's going to happen to Israel. But that's the way

(02:58:13):
it's read. You know, it's amazing to me, but it's
a real problem. That's why i'd like to I'm gonna
have to get your book, the incredible Schofield and his book,
and that's available at your websites.

Speaker 1 (02:58:24):
And I know that you had to go.

Speaker 13 (02:58:26):
I think we've gone over the amount of time that
you'd allotted here, so I'll wrap this up pretty quickly.

Speaker 1 (02:58:30):
Again.

Speaker 13 (02:58:31):
People can find Libertyfellowship mt dot com. That's where you
can find the book. That's where you can find Pastor Baldwin,
and also on Chuck Baldwinlive dot com. Thank you so
much for joining us. Always interesting and important.

Speaker 1 (02:58:46):
To talk to you. Thank you so much, sir.

Speaker 14 (02:58:48):
Thank you David very much.

Speaker 12 (02:58:50):
Thank you.

Speaker 13 (02:58:50):
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