Wed Episode #2102: Trump’s UN Circus: Escalators Stall, Teleprompters Fail, Wars Multiply

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a
revolutionary act. It's the David Knight Show. As a clock
strike thirteen, It's Wednesday, the twenty fourth of September, Year
of Our Lord, twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, it is on again, off again, turn around, spin around,
and we never know from one hour to the next
what Trump is going to do. Now he's done a
complete spin around, and now he wants to pursue the
war in Ukraine until the end. The end of what
you might ask, he thinks that Ukraine can win it.

(01:13):
He says, is it just bluster for negotiation? That's the
way he's being explained by many of his diehard apologists.
But is it also incredibly stupid and dangerous? That's what
I think. We're going to talk about Trump's appearance at
the UN. We'll be right back. Well, Trump went to

(02:11):
the UN yesterday and it began with an escalator that
stopped as soon as he got on it. That was
kind of the way that he kicked off his campaign.
Roger Stone came up with that idea, Trump coming down
the escalator. If only that had happened well ten years ago,
ten years ago, right on time, I would say, yeah,
we are. We got video footage that punctuality and love

(02:36):
the punctuality isn't that great? He's right on time. I
wonder how he managed to get everything together in time.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
A few questions being shotted, there a response.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
We had to walk up, and so he had a
problem with that. He had a problem with teleprompter and
uh so his supporters like Zarah Headger saying they tried
to sabotage you, poor thing. It's really tough, you know.
While while that is breaking, other news that we're going
to have today is how YouTube kicked off people like

(03:07):
me because they didn't like the policies and you know
what we're talking about. But it's all being laid at
the feet of Biden. Nobody will criticize his majesty. This
I got kicked off during Trump, I got kicked off
again during Biden in May. I got kicked off of
two financial platforms and YouTube when I had where I

(03:29):
had a music channel. So it is not just about
the people who talked about COVID getting kicked off. Anyway,
Let's go back to the U N.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Break in real fast. It just reminds me of that
Mitch Hedberg joke. You know, I love escalators, because you know,
escalator's never broken, it just temporarily becomes stairs.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
I was about to bring that up, escalator temporarily stairs.
We apologize for the convenience.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
He had to he had to take the stairs. And
then when I started to make his speech, the teleprometer
didn't work, so he had to actually like do a
speech and think and talk. And maybe that's why some
of the stuff came across as so strident and bullying,
except that's kind of his personality. So the only thing

(04:12):
that was good about it, which in a sense, when
I look at all the different things that Trump has done,
especially in just the last couple of months, you know,
hiding the Epstein files and taking all the hits to
hide the Epstein files, the wars that he is trying
to get us involved, and now he's even trying to
start restart the Afghanistan war, but he's trying to get
us involved in wars in South America. He's trying to

(04:36):
escalate the Ukraine War. He never tried to stop it.
If he wanted to stop it, he could have stopped
it immediately because he's the one giving all the weapons
to Zelenski, giving him weapons and giving him money. If
he wanted to stop it, he could have done it.
You're not a Nobel Peace Prize negotiator if you're arming
one side of the conflict. It's just absurd. But when

(04:57):
you look at all the things that he's done, the
attacks on free speech and everything else, supposedly in the
memory of Charlie Kirk, who was pushing for free speech,
trying to re establish free speech in the university, so
in his honor, you're going to censor people. It's just
the most absurd thing. So when Trump comes out and

(05:18):
starts lecturing the countries about how this global warming stuff
is nonsense, you're destroying your own countries with the global
warming and the climate change nonsense, as well as immigration stuff.
I look at it and it's like I almost wish
he wasn't on my side on any issue, because it
only poisons that issue and people's minds. Isn't that. It's

(05:42):
like somebody who takes your side and then all he
does is scream with people and say stupid things about it.
He doesn't explain why climate change is wrong. He just
says that it is, and he taunts people over it.
So it's actually counterproductive. For people on our side of
the issues. After a moment of confusion, Milania quickly strode

(06:05):
up the stalled steps and Trump followed behind. And I
guess that was the issue for him, So bdeezer for
her to get up the steps than it is for him.
As we all get older. Here, he says, all right,
I got from all I got from the UN was
an escalator that on the way up stopped right in
the middle. If the first lady wasn't in great shape,
she would have fallen. But she's in great shape. He

(06:28):
was in great shape. There's two things I got from
the UN. A bad escalator and a bad cole prompter.
I thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
A lie too far?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, yeah, So he just it was as they said,
it was a blistering attack on the UN. So he was.
He attacked and criticized the UN. He attacked and criticized
London mayor Saidia Khan, that's a target rich environment right there.
European countries who were a betting uncontrolled migration. He attacked Putin.

(07:02):
He attacked countries that are recognized Palestinian statehood. Of course,
he attacked Biden windmills, the climate change hoax, and took
an anti globist position. He said climate change is the
greatest con job ever perpetrated on the world. Again, it
doesn't help our side for Trump to be taking our

(07:23):
side and to not explain why it's a con job.
He says, you're destroying our countries and they're being destroyed,
and he's gotten so deranged. I just take for him
to be on my side on any issue. Trump is
now going in details as they were blogging this on
zoo Hedge about the death and destruction in the Ukraine War,

(07:43):
taking a swipe at Biden, saying it shows you what
leadership is and what bad leadership can do to our country.
And now he's going to follow the exact same policies.
What did Biden do? He did sanctions against Russia, which
is what Trump is boasting about. He's going to do
really good sanctions and it's really good work this time.
And so Biden did that and he armed Ukraine. So

(08:05):
Trump is going to do the same things that Biden
did and he expects different results. On tell me he's
not crazy. That's a definition of crazy.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
No, it's not about what gets done, it's about who
does it. That's right, when our guy does it it's fine.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah it didn't or Combiden did it, but the same
things will work when Trump does it.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Well, you see when my president does it, it's not illegal.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, I tell you, he's looking for a distraction. You
think that he wouldn't start a war to get off
of this Epstein thing. Look at what Clinton did, right,
Clinton got us involved in a war, but not as
dangerous a war as this is going to be. It's
absolutely insane. And he was really counting Russia, calling them
a paper tiger, saying they're not a real military. If

(08:45):
they were a real military, they could have finished this
off in a week or so, you know, like we
did in Afghanistan twenty years were there, we still lost,
So it's Trump says European nations must immediately cease all
energy purchases from Russia. Otherwise we're all wasting a lot
of time. You know, that's what we wanted to destroy Russia.
Let's make it clear it.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Will also destroy Europe to do that as well.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
They physically cannot cut themselves off from this without endangering
their own populations. As we move towards winter, Trump.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Says US is fully prepared to impose quote a very
strong round of powerful terrorists, which would stop the bloodshed,
I believe very quickly if Putin doesn't agree to end
the war in Ukraine. That was all done by Biden.
When Biden put sanctions on, it was a windfall profit
for Plutin. He cut the price and cut payment in
gold or Russian currency, and it was a three hundred

(09:40):
billion dollar windfall for him. So Trump says that Europe
is going to hell. That's his words. It goes scorched
to earth on the failing countries in the UN blasting
immigration the world, ending nukes, and Sharia law in London.
So it was just a gripe session that he had

(10:03):
took him at Sadik Khan as a terrible mayor. He is,
I said London was heading towards shree law. It is.
He said, there's no more global warming, no more global cooling.
Get away from the green scam or your countries will fail.
He complained about renewable energy, calling it useless, warning that
it was leading Europe to the brink of destruction. So

(10:26):
again he said that he hectored hair starmer for three days,
that he was there every day telling you you've got
to get away from this green stuff, and I'm sure
that's persuading everybody. Don't you think Trump slammed the UN
for not helping me to stop conflicts. He's not trying
to stop any conflicts. He falsely claimed that he had

(10:47):
ended seven wars. I'd like to enumerate those. Can you
think of any war that he has ended? I can't
think of a single one. I can think of wars
that he is eager to start. I mean, he even
wants to go to war with Greenland in Canada. When
he began in Panama, what was the purpose of all
that stuff? And he's being cagy about saying, yeah, we
might use force against Canada. It was all to create chaos, confusion,

(11:12):
and disruption. It's just professional wrestling, and it's how he
publicizes things. But he says it's time to end the
failed experiment on open borders because your countries are going
to hell and climate change is the greatest kind job
ever perpetrated on the world. He's on the right side
of those issues, but he doesn't give any good reasons,
and who knows if he's going to stay on that

(11:33):
side or not. You can't count on him being on
the right side of anything. For more than two minutes.
And of course he won't explain why everyone says I
should get the Nobel Peace Prize for each one of
these achievements. But for me, the real prize will be
the sons and daughters who live to grow up with
their mothers and fathers because millions of people no longer
be killed in endless and unglorious war. And he's saying

(11:57):
this at the same time he is doing every thing
he can to escalate and to prolong the war and
to create a conflict directly with Russia and America. This
is what's so amazing about Trump, and that's why I've
lost all faith in this country. I gotta say, you know,
just as I was saying to this guy, said, gee,

(12:19):
David is against everything. You bet you bet you think
I'm going to side with Trump because he says the
right thing for right now about climate change. She said
the right thing about ending the war. Never believed he
was going to do it, And of course he's added
a lot of other wars he'd never talked about. We've
got people so angry at the United States and Canada
and the tariffs and retaliation for what he's done. That's

(12:42):
affecting Florida Orange juice sales. That's what this guy has done.
He's created conflict where there was none. Everybody was very
happy about the fact that the US and Canada had
the longest unpatrolled border. So you get this Trump shill
Jack be Soviet, go up to the border. Look at
this this town. There's no there's no fens. You know,
there's no guard dogs, there's no guard towers, people machine guns.

(13:05):
We got to fix this. What's the matter with these people.
I know exactly where Jack B. Soviet is coming from,
and I know where Trump is coming from, and I
know who they work for. You can see it and
the agenda. You don't need specific names, and so you
better believe that I don't support Trump. That's the issue
that I got with Charlie Kirk. I know that Trump

(13:25):
knew what he was doing. I don't think he's that stupid,
and I know that Charlie Kirk is not that stupid.
Why would Charlie Kirk try to get him in office again,
try to explain away all of the faults instead of
trying to correct them. If he's got any influencer Trump,
That's what I don't get about it. Somebody said, you
don't like Charlie Kirk because he supported Trump. You're right,

(13:46):
that's the issue I've got with him. Also saw him
sell out the family and christ when he used a
black guy's homosexual He went, we got the cultural war
that we're doing right, and he has this young black
guy home sexual there and behind him he's got the
big thing that says culture war. And so there were
some people from Nick Flenttey's group that said, exactly, how

(14:09):
does that help us when the culture war? How does
that strengthen families? And of course it doesn't. But Charlie
Kirk got very angry about that and defended this guy
that he platformed on Turning Point USA for years. This
is just big tent partisan politics, folks. There's no principles
involved in that. It discussed me. Reports in the Norwegian

(14:31):
press claimed that Trump cole called the country's finance minister
to discuss the peace prize. He should get a peace
prize evidently because he's raising tariffs on everybody. I think again,
I think he always spells peace with an eye. That's
what he wants, and so he's had Pakistan, Israel, Cambodia,

(14:51):
Azurebaijohn Armenia, Rwanda and Gabon have said he should get
the Peace Prize. Is there any real country that is
saying this?

Speaker 1 (15:02):
No?

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, is there a country that we can't immediately break
in five minutes with some economic policy we put in place.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
That's right? Yeah? What about Ukraine, Russia, Venezuela, all these
different things and other countries that he has threatened and
harmed who have not done anything. So that is his
he really wants that for some reason. I think they
should come up with a new prize. I think they
should have the Ignobel piece prize because he is ignoble.

(15:32):
He is not noble. The New York police stopped Emmanuel Macron.
He was walking down the sidewalk and they would't let
him get across because Trump's entourage what's coming through. You
know how that works, and they come to town is
total chaos and they stop everything in every direction. And
he was a bit incensed, as you can imagine. Macron,

(15:54):
and so he has a Trump's number on his phone
and it was all in French, so he didn't play
the video, but he calls up Trump and he says,
let me get across the road because they're blocking it
for you. And he says, if you can't see it,
and he said, let me pass and I'll negotiate with you.
Says to the police. He goes, if you can't see
the entourage coming, if it's that far away, just let

(16:17):
me pass. I will negotiate with you. I guess that's that.
He talks and he's at these meetings here, but he
calls up Trump and he says, so, how are you
guess what I am waiting in C Street because everything
is closed down for you. He says, Welcome to America.
That's right, Yeah, welcome to New York. By the time,

(16:38):
that place says always good luck. It seems like every
time I go up there, remember that.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, the last time we were there was no last
time we were there for work. We got stuck in
traffic for three hours plus trying to get out of
the Holland Tunnel. I want to say it was yeah,
oh oh, that was absolutely nightmarish.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
You know, you can't go anywhere to use them even
you know, I mean, you're you're stuck there. But it
was also we were there to report on something that's
happening at the U N Yeah, you were trying to Yeah,
the Armstraight Treaty and U and it was total gridlock
around there. But then it got really bad when we
tried to get out in the Holland tunnel. Oh, it's

(17:18):
just crazy. Well the video in this article, what's that.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
There's a video of a macron.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, it's just all in French. So we have no
idea back. I was right, you want to get the
con DA.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Thank you very much. DJ really do appreciate it, says David.
We are in dangerous grounds. The merger of government religion
is very dangerous. The new tv USA tour is loaded
with Hindus, Mormon's, Jews and Catholics. Tp USA was a
Christian organization.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah, I thought it was kind of interesting. Yeah. I
read that observation from a guy who was in the UK,
and he says, in the UK, they won't even talk
about God. They won't mention Christ except as a swear word, right,
And he was so excited to hear politicians saying that.
And I guess that's my problem with it is because

(18:07):
I know these politicians. He doesn't because he's in the UK,
so he doesn't know what these guys are about. When
you see people like Rubio and others, and the things
that they have said, the things that they have done.
To me, Yes, God can use anybody, you know, as
one pastor said, you know, God spoke to BATLM to
his ass, his donkey, and he says, and He's used

(18:29):
many an ass since then, and so God can use
that when somebody says something. And maybe there's somebody who's
really not political, as I'm in paying attention to who
these guys are and so that hypocrisy of them and
their personal life doesn't get in the way of the message.
I look at it, and to me, it's like some
guy that's been caught red handed in a whorehouse, the pastor,

(18:52):
and then he shows up on Sunday morning and he's
going to preach. It's just you can't get past that hypocrisy.
And that's the way it is with these politicians, you know.
So I look at it. That's why I said, I
guess I'm just too critical, but I thought more about it,
and that's why I'm critical about this. I can't get
past this hypocrisy. I know what these guys have done.
You know. It's like, you know, when I look at

(19:15):
these Christian news sites, it's mostly well, this celebrity said
nice things about Jesus, and so we're going to platform
him for this, and you know, you should you should
investigate this because this celebrity likes Jesus. And then next
to that is are more articles about how some high
profile pastor has been caught in some sexual abuse thing

(19:38):
or something. It's just those two things all the time,
and there's just this cognitive disonance when that happens, and
many times, and some denominations like what was the guy
that just I have sinned? A guy that became a SoundBite?
What was his name?

Speaker 4 (19:56):
I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Anyway, you know, you got somebody like that. And some
of these nominations, they get caught multiple times at whorehouses
and they just they just come back and the people
just keep following them. And that's what I see happening
with politics and religion in the GOP. I can't go there.
It just bothers me. That hypocrisy, that rank hypocrisy just

(20:22):
gets in the way of the message so much I
can't hear the message anymore. And I know there's a
lot of people out there that like that about this.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Travis go ahead and Megan nick one one thank you
very much need to scroll that down, says Islam is
an Antichrist religion. Well, every other religion is an anti
christ religion. Yeah, think about it.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, I've told the story before we went to We
were in Vegas and we went to hear and teller
and Pencholotte said, uh, I don't use the F word.
He says, everybody uses the F word for every type
of speech. They use it as a noun, as an adjective,
as an adverb, and all this other stuff. And he says,

(21:06):
I try not to do that because I try to
have a good vocabulary. He said, I think that's a crutch.
People use that and they don't have a vocabulary to
express themselves. He goes, but I deliberately work to blaspheme
the name of Jesus Christ. And that's exactly the way
these people are. You know. It's just it's deliberate, and
it's across the board. I had. We had friends. His

(21:32):
wife had grown up in Japan, and she said, it's
funny because all the people there are see what is it?

Speaker 4 (21:42):
I believe?

Speaker 2 (21:43):
But she said, you know they're not Christian, very very
tiny Christian population is there. But she said everybody there
is swearing using the name of Jesus, but there's other
ways that we can take Jesus's name in pain. And
that's some of what we saw with some of these
politicians taking his name in vain.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
We've got Big brit Is back again. Some idiots were
saying stopping the escalator might have killed Trump.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Oh, we can only hope.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
I mean having to walk.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
This is the guy who's been escalating every conflict he
can think of across the across the world. So it
is fitting that they would try to stop the escalator.
That's he is the escalator. I am the escalator.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
Do they realize that escalators are dangerous when they're moving?
It stopped escalator is no threat.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
It's just the stairs.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, you know when it's moving that you could theoretically
be injured by it.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Oh, no, it's there. Back in the sixties, my dad
had an out of town client who came in and
he had never been to the big city, so to speak,
as Tampa. Tampa is not a big city in nineteen sixties,
and he took him someplace they went they had an escalator,

(23:04):
and the guy was absolutely flum mixed and scared to
death about how to get on this thing. When he
got on it, he squatted down the sides. He got
down really lower there. Why he was looking anyway, that's
you had to be there. I guess.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
What's going on the floor. It moves. Denver hadaway. Trump's
own White House was controlling a teleprompter, just as is
the case with the other heads of state that speak
at the General Assembly. B. L. Houghton, war is just
peace through strength, lol, bulldog piece through U went climate lockdowns? Yeah,

(23:44):
Fran seeing climate change. We climate change. We used to
call that season not anymore. You can only have this
rhetoric back and forth.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Man.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
I remember when the seasons were stable, and it's gotten
so much warmer. It hasn't.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Well, I've used that as an example. Just try to
break through the group think of people. I said, you know,
think about the profound effect that the sun has on
our climate. Right, we have just a little bit of
a The seasons are caused because of a little bit
because we have the tilt, and then that little bit
of change and distance from the sun causes us to
have these major seasonal changes. So that is the driving

(24:24):
force behind her. That's still we still have seasons, even
if they think that there's some kind of global warming
greenhouse I've had going. We still have seasons. That means
the predominant influence on our climate is obviously the sun.
You can't get these people to even think that is correct.
When I said that, people attack me for saying that.

(24:45):
I mean, it's just that's how far gone this country is.
It's useless. It's hopeless, really.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Is DG eight. Thank you again, David. As long as
Trump is in power, government tyranny will rain, no discernment, question,
nothing trust this government. People will blindly defend their choice
of the lesser of two evils.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, if they admit he's evil, it means they are
complicit in it because they voted for it.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Epstein Island says he's through telling NATO to shoot down
Russian jets.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, it's that amazing.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
KWD sixty eight. Trump shows at Charlie Kirk's memorial while
scripture being read and takes applause, talks about hating enemies.
What an evil, ego ridden enemy he is.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yes, of course you noticed that they couldn't find any
quote or he said about Christ. He couldn't even open
the Bible and get his staff to find something that
he could repeat, like the Hindu Dead. But not even
Trump would could find a single thing in the Bible
that he would repeat.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, Big brit is back again. I have to agree
with him that the UN is a danger funding illegals
in the climateh Oaks.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, but he's not going to get out of the UN,
all right. He will point to the problems that we
all know. He knows what the problems are, and he'll
identify the problems that we see. But he'll do exactly
the opposite, or he'll do nothing right, or he'll do
something like, you know, when we understand what's going on
with autism stuff, and everybody knows what's going on with this,
he'll come up with a misdirection, tell you that it's

(26:13):
tail and all.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
That. That's such a ridiculous statement after all this. Maybe
it's the tile in all of course, how could we
have been so blind?

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Maybe it's a floor height in the water. Oh, no, way,
they were doing that in.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
The sixth No, we're fighting to keep that in.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, that's right, he's fighting to keep the floor height
in the water. That's the Trump administration for you.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
KWD sixty eight. Trump will say and do little things
that need done in maggot years, they ignore the rest
of what he does. That is twenty thirty work over
two hundred executive orders, and three quarters are technocracy tyranny.
That's right, Bulldog. AI is chastising me for using the
term climate lockdown as being a conspiracy. A. Yes, the
lockdowns were a conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
My first when I first got chat gbt I I
I interacted it with a few things about climate and
about COVID, and of course it's going to toe the
party line, and so I said, ah, this thing is
useless and it's rigged because there's no logic behind any
of these mcguffins.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
DG eight, thank you again. I try to warn people
about APAC, they will defend it to their last breath.
Ask them, why would Trump take two hundred and fifty
million from them when they fund Pelosi, Nadler, shift Waters
and Hakem Jeffries.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah. Yeah, Israel is the closest take about to bipartisan
politics here. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Unfortunately, apparently all it takes to build a coalition of
the willing is a massive war chest.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
It's one bird and there's two wings to it. That's
what's going on. In this country.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
DJ says, David noticed Trump Advance kept pointing out Charlie
Kirk's God. Do they worship a different god?

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I didn't notice that I did it, and I couldn't
bring myself to actually watch it or even any clips
of it. I just, you know, like I said before,
the hypocrisy makes me want a puke.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Star Barkley says war is peace, and Three Little Birds
says they murdered Kirk, so the indoctrination of our college
kids can continue unfettered.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, they won't talk about you know, Kirk talked about
how the colleges were the problem. He was going to
go there and talk to them. Nobody wants to talk
about getting rid of the colleges. Nobody wants to talk
about you know, if they want to have colleges, fine,
let the students pay for it. Let it be with tuition.
You know. One of the reasons why tuition is so
expensive is because it was so heavily subsidized by the government.

(28:31):
Whenever you subsidize something, it gets more expensive. Why do
you think they subsidize it so heavily. Why do you
think that they won't do anything about it. They love
to have these problems that are being generated by these institutions.
It gives them an excuse, gives them, gets everybody riled
up so that they think that if they vote for
their candidate, he's going to fix this stuff. Well, we're

(28:54):
going to take a quick break, and when we come back,
we're going to talk about Trump's AI bio weapon. But
he wants to do out there. He's he loves bioweapons,
he loves m R n A, he loves AI, and
he just keeps coming back to these themes over and
over again. We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
You're listening to the David Night Show.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Well, LA's had an interesting uh inside here. When we
take a break, tell the people. When you just told me.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
Just about the Trump on the escalator's story, I thought
it was amusing. The first ever escalator was an amusement
park ride that just went up a few stairs to
a little platform, then you walk down regular stairs on
the other end.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
How about that. That sounds like a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
It was hugely popular.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Apparently, My goodness, the stairs they move.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Actually it was a much better time. People kind of
that kind of wonder over simple things like that. Now
we've not just become jaded we have become oppressed by
the technology, and we want to talk about robotics coming up.
You know, what would those people think about the robots.
I think they'd pull out their shotgun and grind the
or cheat them. Yeah, you talk the appropriate response.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
The famous line, sufficiently vanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
But you know, if you were to go back two
hundred years, I think they would already find what we've
got currently to be pretty indistinguishable from magic.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Oh yeah, absolutely, And of course I guess the real
magic is that people living today would go back and say,
how were they able to make these things for themselves?
How were they able to be self sufficient and survive
on their own? Because that's what they were doing two
hundred years ago. They were surviving on their own. They

(32:15):
didn't have corporations and government to feed them, and now
we've become a helpless little dependence on them.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yeah. The thing is, if you were to take someone
from two hundred years ago and transpose them into the
modern world, they could adapt to it. To take someone
from now and put them two hundred years into the past,
they'd probably die. They would almost definitely just keel over.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Well, we may have that experiment re enacted because of
what Trump is doing at the UN. Yesterday he called
out the UN for not doing enough for peace, praise
his own peace making as he's saying he wants to
go to war with the Russians. For eighty years, the
US has participate in the UN, the dominant form of
rules based international order that was meant to prevent wars.

(32:58):
Has it worked out too well? Has it neither the
rules nor the prevention. Trump proposed his own method of diplomacy,
largely through trade pressure that hasn't brought peace. We need
to understand that sanctions and attacking people in terms of
trade is a prelude to war that has always led

(33:18):
to war in the past, and it is very much
like a siege put around a city state. It used
to not have nation states until the Fourth Turning of
the Industrial Revolution. Remember, as I've said before, Italy had
a civil war at exactly the same time we did
eighteen sixty one to sixty five. It was not over slavery,

(33:39):
it was over the Fourth Turning of the Industrial Revolution
and the creation of a nation state. Prior to that,
power was distributed and you had different centers, and so
it's very easy to put a siege around a town
that had a castle and try to starve the people out.
And that is what sanctions are on a larger scale,
and it is a it is a form of war.

(34:01):
The President said the high terrace that he enacted forced
other countries to renegotiate trade agreements with the United States.
He called the practice a defense mechanism and said it
can be a model for more effective diplomacy around the world.
It is a defense model in the same way that
we had the Defense Department, which he now has appropriately

(34:23):
renamed the Department of War. It is a war mechanism.
That's what sanctions are. Much of Trump's speech touted his
actions and his policies independent of the UN. And just
remember back in the first term of Trump, he threw
out some red meat to his base, saying, I think
we'll get out of the UN because conservatives in mainstream

(34:46):
America doesn't like the UN, never wanted to be in
the UN. But of course that red meat was nothing
but an illusionary nothing burger, as it typically is. You
couldn't even make a Trump taco out of it. His
administration is launching an international effort to stop countries from
conducting bioweapon research, which he characters as a growing danger

(35:09):
after the COVID nineteen pandemic. No, it was his jab.
He's the father of the bioweapon. That's what we should
call him. Also to pioneer AI's verification system as part
of the effort. This is all about creating an overlord
AI system and to the extent that he combines it. Remember,
the very first thing he did was to have an

(35:31):
event with Larry Ellison and to say that they wanted
to have AI design custom, genetic custom to your genes.
mRNA his injection has always been a genetic injection, and
they admit as much. And now they're telling us, oh, yes,
you know, mRNA can modify DNA, And of course there's

(35:53):
a lot of garbage and DNA in the injections to boot.
But it was pretty obvious from the very beginning. I said,
if you just think about this, if the mRNA they
tell us so, it doesn't it doesn't change the DNA,
it copies the DNA. Well what if it doesn't copy
it exactly right, Well, then it's going to change it,
isn't it. It was very simple to understand that that

(36:16):
could happen, even accidentally. But that it could also happen
deliberately was shown in the summer of twenty twenty as
they were rushing through all this stuff before it was
deployed by Trump, was still in the development stage. I
reported that Thomas Jefferson University did some experiments with mRNA
and they said, look, we can use it to change

(36:37):
your DNA. So I said, that's it, folks. Nobody wanted
to report that that cover with story was spiked right away.
Nobody wanted to talk about that. But that is the reality.
And when you look at Susan Monterez, who was put
in at the CDC, and I don't know if she
was taken out because of this, if the good guys won,

(36:58):
I don't know if there's any good eyes in there,
or if it was just a personality conflict between her
and rf K Junior. But I know that whoever got
her put in that position, and the Trump administration put
her in there because she was part of BARDA, the
biological equivalent of DARPA, also ARPA H and so both

(37:20):
of those things are horrific in terms of the way
they're weaponizing technology against us in a way that is medical.
And her focus was on the same thing that Trump's
focus on his first day was, and that is a
combination of AI and mRNA. So it raises a lot

(37:41):
of red flags with me to see Trump talking about
AI and bioweapons yet again, because mRNA is the bioweapon.
It wasn't something that came out of a lab. The
COVID pandemic was not something that was weaponized as gain
of function. But you'd notice that even though they want
to promote that narrative to cover up what they did

(38:04):
with the vaccine deliberately, they will not stop the gain
of function. And he's not even saying we need to
have a treaty that is going to stop this. He says, oh,
we'll police it with AI. This will be an excuse,
a use case for AI to make sure they can
put AI everywhere. He's doing this for his technocracy buddies

(38:24):
who are controlling. He does things for Israel, and he
does things for the technocracy, And both Israel and the
technocracy are doing everything they can contrary to our interests,
but they completely own him. So his administration is launching
an international effort to stop countries from conducting bioweapon research.
Of course, he won't lead the way and stop it

(38:45):
here also to pioneer an AI verification system as part
of the effort. We'll wait and see just how this
is going to be imposed on people. In February, America
sided with Russia and on a resolution that called for
an end to the Russian Ukraine War. Except now he

(39:05):
has flipped on that as well. Trump pulls a jaw
dropping one eight, ruthlessly mocking Russia as a paper tiger.
Trump made a shocking announcement about his administration's new approach
to Ukraine. Just like that, he changes right, turns on
a dime. Why because he is rudderless. He has no principles,

(39:29):
He has nothing to steer him whatsoever. So he's just
a ship blown about by every change in whim. Trump
declared that he is now willing to back the Ukraine
until it recovers all the territory taken by the Russians.
So he thinks that they can get everything back from
the Russians, they can win the war. Quote unquote, what
does that mean to win a war like that? I

(39:52):
think you win a war like that by stopping it.
That's the most successful thing that you can do, he says,
quote after getting to know understanding the Ukraine Russian military
and economic situation. Oh so does he admit that he
was just spatting his mouth off without any understanding of
the situation when he said he was going to end
it in twenty four hours and after seeing the economic

(40:12):
trouble it is causing Russia. I think Ukraine, with the
support of the European Union, is in a position to
fight and win all of Ukraine back in its original
form with time patients, in the financial support of Europe
and in particular NATO, NOE of the American taxpayers, who
will be made bigger debt slaves for this war to

(40:33):
kill people?

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Also, who will be left to occupy this territory at
that point?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, the on't they mean Ukrainians left? It's crazy. The
original borders from where this war started is very much
an option. And why not? Russia has been fighting aimlessly
for three and a half years, a war that should
have taken a real military power less than a week
to win, taunts Trump, This is not distinguishing Russia. Well,

(41:01):
what about our war in Rock, in Afghanistan and many
other places Since World War Two? We have fought one
asymmetric war after the other, and the best that we've
been able to manage is a stalemate in Korea. In fact,
is very much making them look like a paper tiger.
He said, when the people living in Moscow and all

(41:23):
the great cities, towns, districts all throughout Russia find out
what is really going on with this war, the fact
that it's almost impossible for them to get gasoline through
the long lines that are being formed, and all the
other things are taking place in their war economy where
most of their money is being spent on fighting Ukraine,
which has great spirit and is only getting better. Ukraine
would be able to take back their country its original form.

(41:46):
Who knows, maybe even go further than that which we
know has always been the goal of NATO to overthrow Russia.
NATO has been the aggressor in this folks for decades,
so going back to the nineties, Putin and Russia are
in big economic trouble and this is the time for

(42:07):
Ukraine to act. I wish both countries well. We will
continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do
what they want with them. Good luck to all, yeah,
and go knock yourself out. Let's have a war. It
was just in February. Here we are now in September
that he advance blew up at Zelensky in the Oval office.

(42:29):
But now he's become full Lindsey Graham on this thing
and is absolutely insane. From the very beginning, everybody said,
there is absolutely no way that Ukraine can win this
war with Russia unless America enters it along with and
you don't even have to have Europe. But we're going
to have a war between US and Russia. That's what

(42:51):
Trump wants.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Good luck to you all. Is such an utterly insane
thing to say.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
About nonsecretary about a war.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
It's not a base ball game, you know. This isn't oh,
I just hold both sides have a good time.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
It is for him. It is for him. He thinks
that he won't be touched by this, and he probably won't.
He's got his little bunkers no matter what happens, He's
got his bunkers to hide in. But it'll be our war,
rich man's war, poor man's fight. As I said before
and I said it again on Twitter and response to
him saying this stuff. War is when they tell you
who to fight. Revolution is when you figure out who

(43:25):
the real enemy is. In a major shift, Trump says
he now thinks Ukraine can win back all the territory
taken by Russia. What an incredibly stupid and dangerous man
he is. He despises this country. He puts this country last.
Our interests are behind all of these corporate interests and

(43:45):
donors and bribers who are showering him with cash. Whether
it's a foreign country or whether it's an industry group
or a particular person, they all come first. Our concerns
are none of his concern It's a big This post
of Trump and I just read to you is a
big shift, and Zelensky says that it is very positive.

(44:07):
He thinks. Selinsky added that he believes that Trump understands
for today that we can't just swap territories. It's not fair.
He says, yeah, it's not fair. I need to have
my territory. I want my NATO membership, and I don't
care how many Ukrainians I have to kill to get it,
says the leader of Ukraine. And the same thing is

(44:27):
true in every country. Putin doesn't care about Russians, Trump
doesn't care about Americans, Zelensky doesn't care about Ukrainians. Fred
Mertz doesn't care about the Germans, Micron doesn't care about
the French, and hair starmer doesn't care about the Brits.
They all hate us. They're all looking for ways to
kill us. That's the reality of this. The goal of

(44:50):
Trump's social media posts and subsequent comments to reporters about
it was to exert maximum public pressure on Russia to
get them to the table for a deal. Oh yeah,
he has been so effective at negotiation, hasn't he with
this abrasive bullying tone that he takes with everybody. So
he's going to mock Russia and say, yeah, real country
would have won this war by now. We'll see how

(45:12):
long this thing drags on once Trump gets involved in it.
Trump is not able in four years to conclude successfully
the war in Afghanistan. He made no attempt to leave.
The thing came crashing down in a kind of Sigon
evacuation under Biden, which again is Biden's fault. But Trump

(45:35):
didn't do anything to end that war that he promised
to do for four years, And he's not going to
do anything to end Ukraine. The military industrial complexity so
beholden to doesn't want it to end. Macron applauded Trump's statement.
I think he is very very right in this one. Yeah, right,
because they all want war, all the Europeans want war.

(45:57):
If we come back completely Ukraine and this situation, given
the Russian economy is suffering, there's an opportunity of a
good future, Macron told Trump, right. Trump then added, I
really do feel that way. Let's get them their land back.
If you're gonna do that and you're going to take
some of the Russian land, it is absolutely insane. Lindsey Graham,

(46:19):
who last month said that Russia and Ukraine would have
to swap some territory to end the war, is now elated.
Now instead of having to make concessions to end the war.
The guy who has been saying we're going to go
in to Russia, We're going to get Putin, remember that,
I've played that quip many times. He and John McCain
went to Ukraine and several years ago, well before Russia invaded,

(46:42):
and said to the Ukrainians, all right, right now, you're
fighting your fellow Ukrainians. We're going to go into Russia
and we're going to get Putin. That's what you guys
are going to do. And they pan the camera round
and the people are like deadpan. It's like seriously, and
that's what they're doing. But now Graham is excited. I mean,
he'd come around even to this saying they're going to

(47:02):
have to give up some stuff. So I wonder what
is end this for Trump? I mean, somebody must have
either threatened him or paid him off big money to
get him to flip like he did. Trump also conveyed
to the press, though there doesn't appear to be an
end in sight for the conflict, looks like it's not
going to end for a long time. Because that's what

(47:22):
we want. We want endalysts, wars, that's what we've always had.
This is the guy who keeps bragging about how he
deserves the peace Prize. I like to give him a piece.
Trump has repeatedly said that exchanging territory between Ukraine and
Russia would be a key element of any solution to
end the war. So again, a paper tiger, and we're

(47:44):
going to get all their land back, plus some from Russia.
And Trump stunned people when he was asked if NATO
should shoot down Russian planes. Zolenski was asked by MSNBC
anchor Katie Turre. I do want to play something, he

(48:05):
just said reporters as he was meeting. I'm sorry. It
wasn't asked to Zelensky. This was MSNBC playing this. Somebody
asked him, do you think that the NATO countries would
shoot down Russian aircraft if they entered their airspace? Yes,
I do, said Trump. That was quick helping to understand
the president's position right now on Russia, she said, and

(48:26):
von Hilliard was also there. He said, the lack of
a statement coming from this president of the US in
this situation where Article five were to be invoked by
NATO allies, there's a question of whether the US under
this Trump administration would be committed to defending countries that
could face incursions from Russia. And what we have seen
over the course of the last two weeks are that Romania,

(48:48):
Poland in Estonia all reporting judge drones and Russian aircraft
entering their airspace. Hilliard said, well, again, this is the
narrative that Poland has been pushing, and as we pointed out,
these were drones that we've had this situation before where

(49:09):
Ukraine uses electronic jamming on these drones. These drones are
not armed. They were decoy drones for the ones that
were armed and did have electronic countermeasures. So these are
the low echelon drones are just out there as decoys.
They got jammed, they went over the border ran until
they fell. The only damage that they could find was

(49:30):
a house they said was hit by a drone, except
that the Polish military and Donald Tusk, the Polish Prime Minister,
knew before they put out the story that it was
actually their own missile, a dud that was fired from
an F fifteen that hit that house. It was not

(49:50):
a drone, and they knew that before they put out
the report saying that it was a drone. What they
were trying to do was to get the president, who
was part of the opposition, and the president of Poland
was not on board with a war with Russia like
Donald Tusk, who is an EU globalist, so they were
trying to gaslight him and the entire world by thinking

(50:13):
that there had been trying to make the case they
have been an attack. It was nothing of the sort.
It was all a false flag narrative. It was all lies.
And these people continue to try to drag us into
World War three. That's what this is about. And now
Trump is fully on board as well, because, like Donald Tusk,
Donald Trump is also a globalist. People just haven't figured

(50:37):
that out in the United States yet. Nothing could be
clearer to me than that this guy is planning for
that team. He's not America first, he's America last, Israel first,
the globalist agenda next, and America last. That's where Trump is.
For the fourth time this year, he's allowed a deadline
to come and go after welcoming put on the US soil.

(51:00):
The president was just asked at what point will he
stop trusting Putin, and he said he'd give him about
another month. Well, I think that that trust, that that
timeframe has already left. I think Ukraine says Rubio has
to agree to a peace deal. He's saying this as
Trump is trying to escalate everything. So again, are they

(51:22):
playing good cop bad cop? I think this is a
very stupid and dangerous game. Rubio said, It's not up
to us to win the war. He said when asked
why the conflict continues despite Trump's repeated promises to end
it on day one of his new administration. Yeah, those
are just things that he said to get people to
vote for him. He never had any ability to do that.

(51:46):
We always knew that he never had any intention even
of trying to do that. We always knew that as well.
It's just things that he tells us base and they
believe him, and then they defend him when it doesn't happen.
The Russians have to stop the war, said Rubio, and
the Ukrainians have to agree to a peace steal. The
secondary states of the US would be would retain the

(52:08):
role of a broker and the conflict for as long
as possible. We are not an honest, neutral third party
when we are arming one side of the conflict and
threatening the other side. The only way that the US
is going to be broker is with an amount of
money that Trump is giving these people that makes us

(52:29):
all broker than we were before.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
There's also the fact that Zelenski is never ever going
to agree to a pace steal.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Now.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
The corruption he's engaged in and he's been able to
get away with is solely because of the fog of war.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Because that's right, that's why he wants to keep this
war going.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
Because there's thousands upon thousands of Ukrainians dying. No one
has the time to really sit there and prosecute him
for what's going on. The second that ends. The second
there's a cease fire and people look at what he's done.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
A most interesting character in Ukraine is this guy Alexey Arrestovich,
because he's kind of like Dave Chappelle says Trump was.
He says, he'll come out and he'll tell you these
guys are a bunch of criminals, and he'll go right
back in and join them. And that's the way that
Arrestovich was. And the Zelenski administration. Remember they got elected
in twenty nineteen. It had already been five years the

(53:18):
civil war where they were bombing these people in let's
Eastern Ukraine or Western Ukraine. It's eastern Ukrainia, and so
they've been bombing the people who wanted to remain with Russia.
And so he put together, Zelensky put together a team
for peace talks because he had run on that platform

(53:41):
just like Trump did, but he had no intention of
doing it. And so Arrestovich was the guy who was
the lead negotiator in that. And when he comes back
and he talks to Ukrainian on TV, they said, well,
the chances of piece he goes none, They said, oh,
that's horrible. He goes, no, it gets worse in three years.
And it was two thousand and nine when he said it,
and it was twenty twenty two when Russia did it.

(54:03):
He said, we're going to be at full war with Russia.
And he said and she said, oh, that's really horrible.
He goes, the country will be devastated, destroyed, But he said,
the good news is we're going to get into NATO.
And the reporter really was not too impress that he
got kicked out of the Zelenski administration when during the

(54:24):
war you had a Russian cruise missile that hit a
residential high rise that was there and hurt a lot
of people, and Zelensky wanted to make that he wanted
to blame Russia for that, saying they deliberately targeted it,
rather than it's something that happened in the fog of war.
Rest of Ith came out and said, actually, what happened

(54:45):
was we shot that cruise missile, it went off course
and hit the apartment building. And then he was fired.
Now he is running against Zelenski for president, and if
he doesn't get killed, he'll have some interesting things to say. Yeah,
he's already said some interesting things. He said that he
told everybody. He said, Ukraine is going to be destroyed.

(55:06):
He said it again if we continue down this path.
He said, the only way forward for Ukraine to continue
to exist as individuals and even as a country is
forced to have a negotiated settlement and then to put
ourselves in a position of intermediary of trade between Europe
and Russia. He said, that's a role that we could fulfill,

(55:26):
but would work for us. But he goes, there is
no other role that we can have. So he's still
telling people the truth. But people don't want to hear
the truth. They don't hear the truth in Ukraine, they
don't want to hear the truth in the US either.
So the German Army is revealing what their expected losses
will be from a conflict with Russia. The German army

(55:46):
apparently disagrees with Trump that the Russian army is a
paper tiger. They said to expect to suffer one thousand
wounded soldiers a day in the event of a conflict
with Russia. Realistically, he said, The surgeon General Ralph Hoffmann
told Reuters on Monday, he said, realistically, we're talking about
a figure of around a thousand wounded troops per day

(56:08):
when asked about the potential casualty rate. But of course
this is a price that they're willing for other people
to pay, isn't it. You know, the Germans don't care.
The German government doesn't care about Germans. The Ukrainian government
doesn't care about Ukrainians. Russians government doesn't care about Russians.
The American government doesn't care about Americans. This is where
we see it everywhere. So yeah, okay, a thousand people

(56:30):
wounded to day? How many killed? Earlier this year, Kremlin
spokesperson Dmitri Peskov warned that Germany is becoming dangerous again. Yes, Mertz.
Fred Mertz had earlier vowed to make the Bundesfarr the
strongest conventional army in Europe. He also labelled Putin as

(56:52):
perhaps the most serious war criminal of our time. Well,
that's the title that Trump is in competition for out
there blowing up ships left and right. As a matter
of fact, I didn't play this, but I'll play it
for you. This is the latest murder on the high
Sea from Donald Trump. You know, what do you say

(57:13):
about somebody who destroys boats and kills everybody on board,
without warning, without legal justification. They are war criminals. By
the way, I've talked about what Due Tarte did as
president of the Philippines. You know that he's now. I
just saw yesterday he is under arrest and at the

(57:35):
International Criminal Court for the extra judicial killings that he
did as part of his war on drugs. And it
is no different in principle than what Trump is doing
with this. He kills about twelve thousand people, but they're
not even coming after him for that. They've got him
at the International Criminal Court. He's turned eighty and he's
under arrest. He left as president in twenty twenty two,

(57:58):
I believe, and then they arrested him, and the same
thing could the same fate could be there for Donald Trump.
I think that had just skipped the impeachment this time
and have some international people arrest him after he leaves office,
that'd be a better solution. Something of happen somewhere. US

(58:20):
officials say that regime change in Venezuela is the real
goal of military action in the Caribbean. We don't know
what their real goal is because they just won't discuss this.
They're going to do whatever they wish, whatever they decide
in secret. They will not involve the American people. They
won't even involve Congress in this. US officials have told
The New York Times that the real goal of the

(58:42):
US military build up in the Caribbean and the bombing
of the boats in the region is regime change in Venezuela. Well,
it might be the oil, right, but what we know
is it's not fentanyl. That's yet another Trump lie. The
policy is largely driven by Marco Rubio. Back in twenty nineteen,

(59:02):
the first Trump administration attempted to back a coup against Maduro.
Rubio posted a photo on Twitter a former Libyan leader
Momar Gaddaffi the moment he was being brutally murdered, in
an apparent threat to the Venezuelan leader. The Trump administration
claims that Maduro is a leader of a drug cartel,
but has not produced any evidence for the charge. As

(59:25):
a matter of fact, there have been analysts within the
Trump administration that says that that's not the case. Trump
has also framed the military campaign in the region as
a response to overdose deaths in the US due to fentanyl,
but fentanyl is not produced in Venezuela and it does
not go through the country on its way to the US. Well,

(59:47):
that didn't stop him from charging making the same charge
against Canada. He will tell any lie that he feels
as necessary in order to declare an emergency and act
like a dictator.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
We got fentanyl to the north and fentanyl to the south.
Looks like we're fenced in.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Yeah, we're Finnel fence. So the real goal is to
drive mister Maduro from power. I think the real goal
is to take the oil. Driving him from power is
a means to that end. And all the talk about
the war on drugs is just a headfake and a

(01:00:25):
prevarication to try to act as a justification here. US
officials have said the Trump administration is considering direct strikes
on Venezuelan territory. Of course, that's why they're there with
the big armada, which could lead to a full blown
war with the country. But of course it could also
lead to a full blown war with Russia and China,
which Trump doesn't care about. Maybe that's why he turned

(01:00:47):
one a because he knows he's going to be at
war with Russia and China anyway. So is he any
different from Putin. I mean, if Trump is going to
invade Venezuela take their oil, does he have more or
less justification than Putin did to go into Ukraine. I
think Putin had. I'm not saying he was justified in

(01:01:08):
doing it, but I think you could make a better
case that what he did was more justified than what
Trump is doing. After all, Ukraine would not allow the
Russian speaking, Russian culturally linked areas to have their own
self governance and to remain with Russia. That was a
core part of that. And Ukraine had been part in

(01:01:31):
the Crimera especially, had been a part of Russia for
four hundred years. Venezuela was never a part of America.
And you can't make any humanitarian case whatsoever that we
should invade Venezuela to stop something that is going on there.
It is nothing other than political, geopolitics and oil, which

(01:01:55):
is why they're going into that area. Coming.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
You got a comments Big brit Is back again. They
were saying if he was on a moving escalator, a
sudden stop could have made him fall backwards.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
I know, well, if you look at that picture, he
was about to get on the escalator when it stopped.
Maybe he was on the first step, but he wasn't
in the middle of the escalator anyway, and they at
the bottom of it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
Truly a terrifying prospect to consider. What if the escalator
all of a sudden stops at its blistering pace, might
be thrown around the Syrian girl. Yeah, Trump, So get
the US out of the UN, and get the UN
out of the US, then I'll believe your critical insights
on the organization. M yeah, you can. He could just say,
you know what, get out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Well. He goes to the wall of Economic Forum in
Davos and he lectures them about how wonderful he is
and how nationalism is the way forward. And then within
a week of coming back his big pharma HHS secretary
declares the pandemic and in a couple of months he

(01:03:00):
locks everything down. Exactly what the World Economic Forum in
the UN wanted and exactly what the American government practice
for two decades. Don't believe a thing this, kan Man.

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
Says Okaw sixty eight. The road to twenty thirty is paved.
We may change lanes, but the Putties are heading to
the end uniparty roads. Hadrian was right. Putin doesn't want
to stop the war either, that's right, they've got their agendas.
Yeah at em.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Well, you know we're here at the end of the
fourth turning, and at the fourth turning, they need a
war because all of their institutions are obvious failures and
the people are getting very upset with them. This is
how you control the people, how you get them to
fall behind you. This is what we saw in NETANYAHUU
doing Israel tremendous political upheaval. Well, he was incredibly unpopular,

(01:03:48):
he had corruption charges coming against him. He had they
had had one election after the other because it could
even though whose party kept coming out on top, they
couldn't put together al and they didn't have enough volts
to form a government. So they did like like three
times in a row. And so to pull everybody together,

(01:04:08):
you have the war, the false flag attack go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
We have Audi.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
M R R.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Trump is all in with the Ukraine nonsense just as
much as his predecessor.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
KBD sixty eight maggible cheer as their march into Trump's
freedom cities. Well, it's got freedom in the name.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
It's got to be good.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
Yeah, and you need to scroll up. Yeah, at the Mr. R.
Trump the peace President. Wars are not meant to be one.
They're meant to be continuous.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
That's right, modern retro radios where you find Dowdy, that's great.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
Yeah, Epstein Island. Trump is doing exactly what Biden was
doing with both Israel and Ukraine. It's the same as
it ever was. It can use unabated ratus. Bro They
never wanted to win or even tried to win. It
was just two murder Americans and enrich the government. I'm
of the opinion that there hasn't been a a single
war that America could not win that we have engaged in.

(01:05:03):
It's simply that we have just been there to advance
our agendas, and they like seeing American citizens die, so
they're not interested in winning it there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
That was certainly the case with Vietnam. I tell you,
it's just amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
They could with the technology they have, they could basically
reduce all of these countries to ashes. They could basically
exterminate the population, in my opinion, which not that you should, but.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
You know, well, I be like at Vietnam, they won
every battle, but then they would abandon the area that
they just fought over. That was a deliberate strategy by
Robert McNamara, one of the premier globalists of his.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Time Epstein Island. Trump is doing exactly what ratisbro Nope,
schmiet Wave Zelenski wants every white Ukrainian man dead. Ukrainian
men know this, Yeah, deep.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
Cloud and Pitten strategy on steroids. It's not just replacing
them by drowning them out with huge number of immigrants
that are also actively killing them off.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
And that's what they want to do throughout Western civilization.
That's one of the reasons why they want another reasons
why they want to have war. They have. You can
just take all these different boxes as to why they
want a global war. And now it's amazing to see
this how they'll hold out that false hope to Maga. Yeah,
Maga is Charlie Brown, not Charlie Kirk and Trump and

(01:06:27):
the rest of these people are loosey holding the football.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Go ahead, be my Valentine. Many people do not know
they have lime disease with various symptoms. This bacterial spyro
sheet can hide in the body, fooling the immune system.
Of course, lime disease being another wonderful gift from our
military industrial complex.

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
I don't know if I missed the comment that was
in response to a comment from I believe a Syrian
girl talking about how it was gain of function.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Yeah, citizen of a they've got they want to give
people a meat allergy as well.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Yeah, now you don't get to eat red meat despite
the fact that it's you know, basically the best food
for you when it comes to a nutrient profile. Citizen
of Americaca, when the entire world's preparing for war and
the citizen read just wants peace and a decent standard
of living and doesn't care about the foreign entanglements. They
just want the potholes filled. They just want the pot

(01:07:22):
holes filled.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
And apparently Bulldog says there's a sniper attack at an
ice facility, a shooting in Dallas, Texas. H Well, that's
not gonna be good. That's going to lead to more
extreme measures. Yeah, and he says officials confirmed the suspected
tutor was later found dead of a self inflicted gunshot.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Hmm. Yeah, same time when we see over and over again,
isn't it. Well, when we come back, we're going to
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Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Supporting glasses half fool, it's not half emptying exactly. All right, Well,
let's talk about Trump AI and biological weapons. Now, what
he's saying is he wants to use AI to enforce
biological Weapons Convention. So to try to limit this that
would be dangerous enough. It was only going to be that,

(01:12:39):
but I think there's going to be a combination with
this because we've seen this as I mentioned before from
the Trump administration from day one, Larry Ellison and others
saying that they were going to combine mRNA with AI
to do genetic treatments.

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Audi has been a very generous contributor over the years,
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Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Of course, he also has modern retro radio. But yeah,
that new program on Rumble, Everything is a Lie. Yeah,
that's good. That's it's also true. I think, well, again,
the people that he has put in there and the
programs that he has supported. If you read between the lines,
you understand that this is not about trying to stop

(01:13:47):
bioweapons and buy weapon deployment and control. It's about making them.
Stargate was about making another bioweapon, just like his operational
warp speed so called vaccine. So I find this to
be very concerning. Trump announced the effort under which AI
will pioneer, he says, to prevent potential disasters. I'm announcing

(01:14:11):
today that my administration will lead an international effort to
enforce the Biological Weapons Convention. Well, why don't you lead
by getting out of it yourself. This is just like
the UN itself. He wants to talk about how bad
the UN is, but he won't get out of it.
He wants to talk about how dangerous biological weapons are,
but he won't stop it. He needs a mission for AI,

(01:14:34):
and of course this mission is the very least. It's
going to be surveillance, and it's going to be total
information awareness. He's going to pioneer an AI verification system
that everyone can trust. He says. It's going to be
a system that no one can trust. It seeks to
know everything about everyone. Okay, that's where they're going. May

(01:14:55):
have what everyone says. How AI is a solution looking
for a problem. But the government is more than happy
to provide however many problems it needs.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
The government has an excess of problems.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Yeah, they can provide the problems as well as the
funding that's always there. He's enumerated several things that he's
done since we taken the White House in January, including
yet again the big lie ending seven Wars that evidently
is this week his favorite lie other than the one
that I never tell lies. The lie that he ended

(01:15:30):
seven Wars is is number one. So AI is ready
for this. You think we have a new term that's
been coined by researchers. They call it AI generated work
slop work slop. They said it is killing teamwork because
it's getting people angry with their fellow workers who are

(01:15:53):
using AI. That's creating a bunch of problems that they
then have to go back in and clean up, and
it is causing a multimillion dollar productivity problem. So it
looks like you got to give it the key mission
of making the world, say, from bioweapons. Uh, you know
you can't talk about that with a straight face if
you're not going to do anything to clean up and

(01:16:15):
to reform after what was done in twenty twenty with
Trump and many of these other same leaders that are out.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
There, you're going to give AI the keys to the bioweapons.
It's going to say, ooh, I've accidentally released them all.
I did that even though you told me not to
do that. You're exactly, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Yeah, that that dialogue from that that AI that deleted
that company's entire database. I know you told me how
to do that, but I did it. Anyway. This will
be catastrophic for you want it, It's like, yeah, well bazydoodle. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
Also, it just just reminds me of once a company
reaches any sort of size, you reach a point where
you know, there's just some filler employees. They don't actually
do very much at all. They're just kind of there.
AI allows them to churn out this nonsense to make
it look like they're busy, which then results in instead
of them being negligible, they're a hindrance because, as it's saying,

(01:17:03):
the real workers, the people that are actually getting stuff done,
have to go in and redo their work.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
That's right. It's extra work for the real workers coming
from the non workers and the AI work slop that's
coming in.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
It's just as I said, a company of any size,
eventually you reach a point where you just need bodies
and places, and you know, if a guy will just
sit there and do the minimum, you know, it is
what it is you just need somebody to sit there
and do something, And now he can sit there and
do something and have chat GPT export. You know, I'll
have to.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Make it look like I'm doing something. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
Look, here's a thousand pages you now have to sift
through and see if any of it is valuable.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
That's right. Well. The term work slop was coined by
Harvard Business Review and they were looking at a study
that was done by Stanford and a company called Better
Up Labs looking at productivity, and they said AI has
been a massive productivity loss. We know it's been a
massive loss of capital. As they bought into this illusion.

(01:18:02):
Surveyed workers report forty percent of eleven and fifty US
based full time employees received work slop in the past month,
with each incident costing nearly two hours on one hundred
and eighty six dollars monthly per person. Recipients of work
slop say cinders seem less creative and reliable, while a

(01:18:22):
Harvard Business Review experiment found a nine percent competence penalty
and said freelance workers are being hired to clean up
sloppy AI outputs, So think maybe it's not going to
create massive unemployment anyway, maybe what it'll do is will
create so much work slop that you've got to have
hire more humans to fix it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
You're going to your job will be to sift through
the most mind numbingly boring derivative nonsense you have ever seen.
Because chat you can tell when an AI is writing something.
It all has this very pseudo intellectual feel to it,
where it's inserting words in places to bloat a sentence,
making it large than it needs to be. You know,

(01:19:01):
it's almost it's very sort of first year philosophy student
almost in the way it speaks.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Yeah, it's a pseudo intellectual pedantic yeah. But and that's
what they're talking about in this They're talking about company memos,
emails and stuff like that are wasting people's time and
other things that they're doing. But of course, when we
talked about the code just last week, we were talking
about the fact that it was creating some very subtle
errors that it was that were difficult for people to

(01:19:28):
be able to catch, and when it was generating code,
it would leave glaring vulnerabilities for hackers to be able
to exploit. So all these things that is even worse
than just the workslop that they're talking about here, you're
going to see when we see these issues with our
complicated infrastructure like we saw over the weekend, excuse me,

(01:19:52):
at various airports. You're going to see this. And is
it going to be a case of sabotage by hackers
or by foreign governments or is it going to be
sabotage by AI coding. It's going to be kind of
difficult to tell. Certainly, they'll make it easier for these
malicious actors to do what they want to do. So

(01:20:13):
they said, it's all about the plight of workers who
have to fix their colleagues AI generated WORKSLOP. They said,
work content that masquerades is good work but lacks a
substance to meaningfully advance a task. The injection of AI
tools in the workplace has not resulted in some magic
productivity boom. Instead, it has just created the amount of

(01:20:34):
time increased the amount of time that workers say they
spend fixing low quality AI generated work. This study came
out the day after the Financial Times analysis of hundreds
of earnings reports and shareholder meetings transcripts that were fire
filed by Standard and Poors five hundred companies that found
huge firms are having trouble articulating specific benefits of widespread

(01:20:59):
AI adoption, but they had no trouble explaining the risks
and the downsides. So they are struggling to find a
benefit that justifies their massive investment in it. But you
ask them what are the downsides and they've got a
million of those right away. Why are they doing this, Oh, well,
because they've been told by these ultimate hucksters like Sam Walton,

(01:21:21):
who go into these dog and pony hearings and Congress
and say, you know, this is so important. It's going
to be civilizational ending if the other bad guys get it,
and it's going to be the end of your company
if you don't get it and the other guys get
it first. So if you've got an AI gap, you
better get with it, you better buy our product. This
kind of fear mongering that's been done by our government

(01:21:42):
and the technocracy is behind this, and everybody is bought
into this. They can't find any justification for it in
terms of benefits. They understand what it's happening with it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
Well, if you don't get the AI, your competition's going
to get the AI. You don't want that, do you?

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Yeah, fear of missing out. That's it. So they anticipate
benefits such as increased productivity were vaguely stated and are
harder to categorize than the risks, they said, but they
couldn't describe how this technology is changing their business for
the better. This is the case, folks, of almost all
of the latest technology. It's not changing our lives, our businesses,

(01:22:20):
our communities, our families for the better. It's big change, yes,
but not for us. It's making things better for the
people who are creating the change and creating the disruption.
It's good for them. It gets them money. It makes
us poor. It takes us down the path of where
we own nothing, they said. Despite thirty to forty billion

(01:22:43):
dollars in enterprise investment into gen AI, this report uncovers
a surprising result in that ninety five percent of organizations
are getting zero return, says Harvard Business Review, Industry level
transformation remains limited because people are having to Now, humans
are trying to clean up the mess that the AI

(01:23:05):
has created. So what's going to happen when this suddenly turns?
And I think it will turn suddenly. This has been
the fear of missing out. The conventional wisdom, you've got
to go with AI. And when people realize the reality
of this, and you're starting to see several of these
reports out there, and all of a sudden it comes
to a screeching halt. What happens those stock market crashes

(01:23:28):
because stock market has been built on this AI bubble
from the very beginning. It's not to say they won't
find some use for AI in the future. I hope
they don't, but it's inevitable that they will. But it's
just that the hype got so far out ahead of
the reality. It's the same thing that happened with the
dot com bubble. And I said this from the very beginning,

(01:23:50):
didn't I The anecdotes.

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
Have first observations. Just this reminds me so heavily of
the dot com burst and how these people go in there.
Everyone's excited, they want whatever technology you've got on off
for sure, that sounds great. You know the future is now?

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Yeah, yeah, that was I got burned really badly on that,
so I once that's right, I learned that lesson. I
was like a toddler who got a third degree burned
on their hand with that pot. I thought I would
be smart and invest in the picks and the axes
of that gold rush, but even the picks and the
axes went down on that. Anecdotes have heard, we've heard

(01:24:28):
from workers, and the rise of industries like Vibe coding
cleanup specialists all suggest that workers are using AI, but
they may not be leading to actual productivity gains for companies.
In other words, why do you have to have a
coding cleanup specialist?

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
There's also another thing to realize is there is basically
only a certain amount of work you can get through
in a day, no matter what you're doing. The company
may not have anything else for you to do. Yeah,
and it doesn't you know, it doesn't benefit you to
sit there with the AI and generate one hundred of
thous different pages of nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Well. The other thing is is that always in the past,
when I was in working in engineering software, we'd see
that the really good code is typically written by one
guy and he would come up with a killer app,
and then what would happen is a big company would
buy it, and then they'd put a team of programmers
on it to try to maintain it, and it would

(01:25:23):
start rapidly going downhill. From that, it's much much harder
for other people to pick up on the structure and
the nuance and everything that you know, one person, maybe
two people would put together working very closely. That's a
big part of all the mythical man months, thinking that Okay, well,
if one person can do this amount of work in
this amount of time, then we can get this big

(01:25:45):
engineering product, and we can hire a lot more people
and we have this many man months that we put
on this. But because of the organization, the interaction and
things like that, it doesn't work out that way. You
don't get that kind of proactivity game. And so AI
is somebody's gonna have to come up with the term.
There's equivalent to the mythical man mod maybe the mythical

(01:26:06):
machine moth that it's going to be there.

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
But yeah, one of the things a lot of people
don't realize is technology doesn't really advance by having a
giant team of people working on something. Usually, like you said,
it's one you know, very smart, highly dedicated individual that
pushes technology forward in a leap, and then you know,
you have these teams of people that may iterate on
what they've created and change it in different ways and
add things to it. Generally, making it worse over time.

(01:26:32):
But it's generally, like you said, a small team one
or two people that are very, very dedicated and highly
highly intelligent, borderline genius that takes something and you know,
give you something you've never seen before that the world
has never considered because they wanted it. They thought the
world could use this.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
I worked at at Data General. They were trying to
make the leap into doing a generalized office computer, so
they bought this I think it was. It spent a
long time. I think it was a word processing system.
I just remember it was done by one guy and
they bought it when we got the code and they
wanted to support it to this system and looked at
it and it was such an unbelievable mess. It was

(01:27:11):
written in Fortreit it was just one go to statement
after that. There was no organization to it all. I
mean that's one of the things when you're writing code
in a company, there are certain conventions that you follow
to make your stuff readable by other people and to
organize it so that other people can come in and
find it there. This was just this ad hoc thing
that he wasn't necessarily a genius, but he was a

(01:27:32):
good salesman they bought the farm. It was truly amazing.
But what a piece of garbage that was. Anyway, that's
what makes me think, you know, I can really relate
to this. If AI comes in and just creates this
total garbage stuff, and you've got to have a cleanup
specialist who comes in to fix it, it'd be better to
have it that kind of person. Just write it clean

(01:27:53):
from the very beginning instead of a clean up specialist.
You have a clean coder from the beginning, it's going
to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
And I assume a can be useful for someone who
is very, very good at the job. They know what
they're doing, they know what to look for. They can
give it some prompts and he can very quickly check
to see if it's done what he said while he's
doing other things on the side.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Give it some small tasks. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28:12):
Whereas you know, someone who doesn't know what they're doing
generates an entire code base, you know, thousands upon thousands
of lines. You then need someone like you know, someone
who is incredibly good at the job, to come through
and then scan through it so he doesn't have time
to actually work on anything of his own.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Mm hmmm. So what they're saying with this is that
it is it is grieving a number of workers. So
other coworkers are using AI to make presentations, reports, right emails,
do other work tasks that are then filed to their
colleagues and their bosses. It appears to be useful, but
it's not work slop. Ethniquely uses machine softload cognitive work

(01:28:51):
to other human beings. When co workers receive work slop,
they're often required to take on the burden of decoding
the content inferring the missed or false context. A cascade
of effortful and complex decision making process may follow, including rework,
uncomfortable exchanges with colleagues. They write, they said they surveyed

(01:29:12):
workers and told them that they're now spending their time
trying to figure out if any specific piece of work
was created using AI tools, so they could identify possible hallucinations,
then to manage the employee who turned in the work slop.
The most alarming cost may have been interpersonal. Here's another
example from the legal field. Right We've had several situations

(01:29:35):
where people have filed legal briefs where they had AI
write it for them, and AI cited a bunch of
imaginary precedents in similar cases that never existed, and then
when the judge checks their work because they failed to
do it, the judge looks at this work slop, and
you've had situations where the judge has censored the law

(01:30:00):
firms and things like that for following false briefs like that.
But it's the AI that's hallucinating, adding a bunch of nonsense.
So you create this whole lawsuit, and you've got to
have another group of people to go through and fact
check and double check everything that's in there to make
sure that it has not just been made up. Low effort,
unhelpful AI generated work is having a significant impact on

(01:30:22):
collaboration at work. Approximately half of the people who surveyed
viewed colleagues who sent work slop as less creative, capable,
and reliable than they did before receiving the output. Forty
two percent of them said they saw them as less trustworthy.
Thirty seven percent saw that colleague as less intelligent. Evidence

(01:30:42):
is mounting that AI is affecting people's work in the
same way it's affecting everything else. It's making it easier
to output low quality slop that other people men have
to weighe through. But here's the thing that is really concerning.
We talked about this slop and we talk about handing
off key tasks of law enforcement and policing of bioweapon construction.

(01:31:04):
Think about AI. When it's just going to be handed
off by the government to do this kind of stuff,
it is truly going to be dangerous, and that's how
they want to use it. Maybe we should call this
new thing operational warp speed stupidity. We kind of get
stupid at an increasingly fast rate, accelerating.

Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
Rate, operation warp slop.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:31:29):
We have opossum king. Alcohol kills twice as many as fentanyl. Yeah,
alcohol is truly Yeah, people ignore how dangerous it is,
but people become addicted to it and it absolutely destroys
their life. Alcohol addiction is one of the worst addictions
you can have.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Yeah. I remember when we talk about the we were
on drugs. People equate alcohol addiction to heroin addiction in
terms of how addictive it was or other Class one
drugs that were out there. That's one of the reasons
why alcohol was the first thing to be prohibited. You know,
at the time, Travis, they had cocaine and coca cola, right,

(01:32:06):
they didn't try to prohibit that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:07):
That's how we built things like the Hoover Dam.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
They tried to you know, they were more concerned about
the alcohol to prohibit it than they were the cocaine.
You know, you could have selw Holmes could take cocaine,
Coca cola, could use cocaine. But let's not use a
alcohol that is really bad stuff, Audi, Mr. R. The
War on Drugs is not interested in fighting addiction now.

(01:32:30):
It's interested in getting a like all wars, that's supposed
to go on forever, and it's supposed to expand like
a cancer.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
And interested in giving your local police department an APC
so they can terrorize you Denver ataway. Fentanyl was invented
by doctor Joel Paul Jansen in nineteen fifty nine. The
name Jansen sounds familiar, it's because that was the name
of J and J's m Marte COVID vacks interesting interesting
Nibaru twenty twenty nine. Lime disease equals pump island equals

(01:32:57):
Operation paper Clip.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:00):
Wait until you are forced to rely solely on the
Virtual AI Customer Service REP. I begin to lose my
mind if I am kept on hold for too long.
If it if it becomes a circular nonsense of oh,
please tell me what you would like. I'll connect you
to a representative. All our representatives are busy. Would you
like me to solve your problem? I begin to go squirrely.

(01:33:23):
I start thinking about Ted Kazinski. But it's the only
a matter of time when most gut workers will be
mass laid off and their salary budgets pocketed. Yeah, that's
not going to end up in a tax cut for us.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Well, that was what DOGE was about from the very beginning.
Minimizing government, maximizing governance, minimizing the number of government employees,
maximizing their surveillance of us. That was what it was
about from the very beginning, and it's still going down
that path.

Speaker 4 (01:33:53):
Yeah, out of mr r AI is to be used,
not relied on. It does have its uses and it
can be very helpful, but it is something you need
to monitor and keep track of. You can't just turn
your brain off and go AI do this for me.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
Well, you know it's useful for things like entertainment, right
where hallucination comes unhandy. Hallucination can be entertaining, but if
you've got something specific that you want it to do,
because that's part of your story that can be unbelievably frustrating.
The most simple directions will be ignored or it'll do

(01:34:28):
exactly the opposite, And so it is a very frustrating
thing to work with. And sometimes you wonder would I'd
be better off just learning how to create the computer
graphics myself by hand.

Speaker 4 (01:34:39):
It'll get fixated on things for some reason.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Yeah. Yeah, And so it does something like it makes
the character go in the wrong direction, walk backwards, and
so you know, the more you try to stress that
the direction that you want this character to walk, the
more it will make him go in the wrong direction.

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
Down. It's like a disobedient child.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
Yeah, it's crazy, bulldog.

Speaker 4 (01:35:05):
How many GOV lawyers and paralegals can be fired, Probably
the vast majority of them, given how frequently they've done
DEI hires. They're probably staffed up with some of the
dumbest people you could ever possibly imagine. So realistically, you
could probably replace most of government with AI and barely
notice a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
They need to maybe hire more of them to check
the lawsuits that are making up references.

Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
Are also I've said this before, but part of what's
saving us is just the sheer level of bureaucracy that
we are dealing with. It's a pain for us, it's
a pain for them. They are trapped by it too.
All we are all beholden to the dreadful, calcifying majesty
that is bureaucracy A culty sim I pay for chat GBT,
and it's helping archive over forty years of writing and videos.

(01:35:53):
It's super for creative uses. Like I said, it does
have its uses, and just as long as you're monitoring
it and keeping track of it, and you were the
one that's in charge, it can be very helpful. I
see tons of people online though. Anytime something is posted
on x immediately the first comment is at grock is
this real? At Grock disreel. Yeah, they've turned off their brain.

(01:36:15):
They are simply asking for AI to define reality for them,
and that is a very very dangerous place to be.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Well. They use the influencers to define reality for them
as well, and they don't realize that when you're talking
about things like that as opposed to creative uses that
it is. It's been nudged by the people who are
controlling it. They pay people to build in biases into
them about things like climate change or things like the

(01:36:43):
so called pandemic and stuff like that. So just be
careful of that, you know, and understand. That's why you
should always look at different sources of information, because you
never know. Somebody might be honest and all of a
sudden someone comes along and bias them out. We have
seen many of the all media do and about face.
As a matter of fact, I think it was a

(01:37:03):
freethought project that had that article talking about the about
face of so many people in the alt media and
how they become echo chambers to influence people for Trump
or the Republican Party or something like that, as opposed
to they used to be. You know, I'm not going
to take sides on any of these parties because they're

(01:37:25):
all lying to us. You know. That's why that guy
accused me of being he hates everybody. It's like, you
better believe I hate the Democrats and Republicans because I
know who they are, I know what they have done,
and I can't unsee it. So yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:37:39):
Part of it is everybody has to be worried about
audience capture. It's a pressure that everyone feels. Well, if
I say this it might upset my audience and that
could lead to negative circumstances for us, and you have
to be very careful that you're not giving into that, yeah,
which you know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Well we haven't, so you can see where we are. Yeah,
so they look at the askage, you can know we're
not bowing to pressure on.

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
This arrest machine gun. Thank you very much. Also very
spooky name that one of those might be coming to
all of our doors. If you really want to get mad,
try ordering a pizza over the phone at any local
chain pizza place. Their AI will make you think you
make healthier choices. I have not. I have not had
to deal with that as someone that can't eat gluten,

(01:38:26):
I'm probably saved from that as a general rules you Yeah,
three little birds emp. Also fun fact, when gluten leads
to bread in general leads to worse outcomes with schizophrenia.
So it increases the rate of schizophrenia.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
So you think that maybe what's happening to our society? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
Possibly During World War Two, when certain places were cut
off from wheat, they didn't have the supply so they
couldn't eat it. Their rate dropped dramatically, and when the
wheat came back, the schizophrenia rate jumped back up to
its standard a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
So it's not the SSRIs wonderbread.

Speaker 4 (01:39:01):
That could be a combination.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
Okay, look at people today.

Speaker 5 (01:39:05):
They're eating far more bread than any time in history,
and you can see it with a glance.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
Yeah, and the and the grain has been modified, sometimes
genetically modified, but if not, it's been modified through selective
breeding for a very long time. So the wheat that
we're eating is not like what the people ate the
time of Christ. No, not at all.

Speaker 4 (01:39:27):
Three little birds EMP could disable AI. Well you have to.
I'm assuming they're taking precautions and shielding some of them
at least. But then again, who knows. Who knows what
these people do?

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
We can always hope we're gonna find out, probably soon enough,
if Trump keeps on this warpath antagonism.

Speaker 4 (01:39:47):
Yeah, bulldog, AI equals control over what remains of humanity.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
I mean, just think about Trump and what he did
that you hand. I mean, where else can you have
somebody just you know, every other bread ba as Nobel
Peace Prize, and every other breath is taunting U the
other large nuclear power. I mean, what a man of
lunacy and contradiction He is, and he continues to get

(01:40:13):
away with it. He is a walking piece of double think.
It's just amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
Perhaps that's how he gets away with it. He's so
utterly confusing and doesn't hold a position at all that
no one can define him.

Speaker 9 (01:40:25):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:40:26):
The real octos spook. One of AI's greatest use is
one of the one of AI's greatest use of as
resources and the students using it to write their papers
for schools slash colleges Gardner Goldsmith. I just saw that
the Italian the trick.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
Is on them. I haven't learned anything.

Speaker 5 (01:40:42):
I think that was sarcasm.

Speaker 4 (01:40:44):
Yeah, yeah, Also, I mean, considering what colleges teach, you know,
you're probably better off using the AI to write all
your stuff and not absorb anything at this point. So
more power to him. Gardner Goldsmith. I just saw the
Italian government is sending a military ship to support the
Sumood Aid flotilla after Israel hit it with flash bangs
and frag grenades last night.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
Hmmm, I didn't see that last night. Good to see
a Guard liberty conspiracies. But Guard has every evening money
through Friday on Twitter.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
And rumble and rumble.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
Yes, as has the substack.

Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
Which is Guard Goldsmith, I believe or is that? I
think he's kept it separate and the substack is Guard Goldsmith.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
I know I'm subscribed to it. He's got a great
Sunday newsletter that he puts out.

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
That's one of the problems with having everything delivered automatically.
You sign up once and you have to look at
it and you're like, what was that called?

Speaker 5 (01:41:35):
That's right, especially if you get taken off of it randomlys.
A lot of our audience has.

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
Yeah, I've got my wife's phone number saved in my phone,
and I, for the life of me, couldn't tell you
what it actually is. Epstein Island, says Donald Tusks. It's
a very it's a very orange walrus Well.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
The name like that he got, I'd be in the
Republican Party, an elephant. The alphant in the room is Donald.

Speaker 4 (01:42:01):
Tusk minute man, Militia. I know so many people who
search something and then their AI answer. They take it
as fact, as if the AI is infallible. Yeah, I
see that. Continually, just the AI will say something completely
wrong and someone else will have to come and be like, no, actually,
this isn't that. It's from this other thing over here.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
Yes, yes, Well, we're going to take a quick break
and when we come back, we're going to talk about
this YouTube censorship and we're going to ask you all
the questions as to what you think about what we
should do to proceed forward with this. So we'll be
right back.

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Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Well, we had an interesting admission from Google, which is
nothing new actually, and this is Google admitting that the
Biden White House pressured content removal and they promise to
restore banned YouTube accounts like yours. Truly, we all knew

(01:45:40):
that this was happening. As a matter of fact, this
is only a partial, limited hangout. This is because the
House Judiciary Committee under Jim Jordan issued a subpoena to
them and started an investigation to reveal the extent of
government influence on content creation. This is and yet at
the same time they want to pretend that this was

(01:46:02):
not done under the Trump administration, and it was done
under the Trump administration. What I also find interesting is
that they want to say that this is simply about
people who are opposing the so called pandemic and the
so called vaccine treatment that was proposed for this. Well,
if you said something about the masks, or the lockdowns

(01:46:24):
or the vaccine, no, it was about so many things.
As a matter of fact, when you start to look
through this article where they're describing it, they said, well,
YouTube will provide an opportunity for all creators joined to
rejoin the platform if they were taken off for repeated
violations of COVID nineteen. And then they add and election integrity,

(01:46:46):
and then when you continue to read this article, they
will continue to add more and more qualifications. I was like, okay,
so now it was COVID nineteen and it was a
twenty twenty election. Oh and then it was also Hunter
Biden's laptop. Okay, It's very much like the joke about
the uh that disappeared. Well, that's where is it them?

(01:47:12):
The one about the money python and the Spanish inquisition
remember that where he comes in If you can find that,
I don't know, I thought it was on here, but
it's the Spanish Inquisition, right. It comes in, he goes
our main tool is this, and then also this. Oh,
our two main tools are this, right, and then he
keeps going down that thing three or four. And that's

(01:47:32):
what they're doing with this, saying YouTube does not use
third party fact checkers to determine whether content should be
removed or labeled, said the lawyer for Google. No, they
just follow the government rules, and this is their Nuremberg defense.
I was just following the orders right to pull people out.
I don't like this, but I was just following the orders. No,

(01:47:55):
they were perfectly good with that. And as a matter
of fact, it's not limited to Google, it's not to
the social media. I got kicked off five months until
the show started. They kicked me off in May. I
was kicked off of PayPal, Venmo, and YouTube, all those
in May of twenty twenty one. Don't tell me that
this wasn't somebody in the Biden administration that was focused

(01:48:17):
on me. They want None of these places would give
me a reason for why I was kicked off either,
and I know that it was something that was happening
through the Trump administration. It was in twenty eighteen at
the midterms that you had eight hundred sites that were
kicked off because they were against the police, surveillance state

(01:48:38):
and the wars that were going on. That was the
one thing they had in common. They weren't getting kicked
off simply because they were pro Trump or because I
had questions. The election had not taken place at that
point in time, and we didn't have the COVID nineteen,
so none of that stuff that they say, you know,
the hunter, Biden's laptop, all that stuff came years later,
So it had nothing to do with that. And it

(01:48:59):
was happening, and the Biden in the Trump administration as
well as a Biden administration. And yet what this is going,
what they're going to use this for. You'll have the
GOP say, yeah, but what about Biden? What about Biden?
So since Biden did it, we can do it rather
than saying Biden did it and let's make sure that
never happens again. Know, they'll say Biden did it, so
we can do it. That's what we're getting from these people.

(01:49:22):
Senior Biden deministration officials, including White House officials, conducted repeated
and sustained outreach to Alphabet, a parent company of YouTube Press,
the company regarding certain user generated content related to the
so called pandemic that did not violate its policies. And
they also pointed to people as well, let's understand this

(01:49:44):
is not simply about topics. It's also about people. Just
like they've got a no fly list and you're not
allowed to know if you're on it. Well, you will
find out that you're not that you're on this list
when they tell you can't fly. But then they won't
tell you anything about why you're put on there. They
won't tell you how you can get off of that
list either. This is the same thing, except it's really

(01:50:06):
kind of a no see, no reach list. You can
be like Elon must said on X, well you're going
to have the ability to have speech, but you won't
have any reach. We're not going to kick you off
the platform. We'll just make sure nobody can see you.
That's called shadow banning. So you get shadow banned or
you get taken off completely. And that's the name of

(01:50:30):
the game that's there. So now they're saying they will
give an opportunity for people to rejoin. YouTube does not
use third party fact checkers. He said they value conservative
voices on their platform. Do they really? These creators have
extensive reach and play an important role in civic discourse,
so now they want it to be the public square again?

(01:50:51):
Is that right? The revelations Echo findings and the Murthy
versus Missouri case, where lower courts found that federal agents
taken on a role similar to the Orwellian Ministry of truth.
It's not like we didn't always know this. It was
very clear what was happening. So when will it change?
Will it change with the next pandemic, the next war?

(01:51:12):
Look at how rapidly Trump did a one to eighty
on Ukraine. These people are arbitrary and capricious in terms
of what they will kick you off for, and the
mechanisms have not changed. They have confessed what they did,
but there's not going to be any real change or
prohibition against that, not at all.

Speaker 5 (01:51:33):
How he's done a complete on free speech with Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
Yeah, that's right, that's right. So we've seen it over
and over again, especially on free speech. So you know,
will it be because I oppose Trump? Because I get
kicked off because I pose Biden? This is the way
this thing works. So the question I would ask other people,
if you want to put a comment in there, do
you think we're out even bothered to try to get

(01:51:58):
onto YouTube again. I'm really conflicted over this. I hate
the platform so much, I hate Google so much. I
don't want to have anything to do with them, But
I don't know if they would bring me back either.

Speaker 4 (01:52:10):
I don't know Yeah, what happens with us seems absolutely
specifically targeted because of what happened with the Christmas Channel.
It didn't have anything to do with the show. It
didn't have your voice. There's nothing that it could have
keyed off of. When it comes to AI.

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
It did have You're listening to the David Knight Show.
We left that on there because we used the commercial
pumpers that we had, so possibly you got that that's
the only thing that said it was a David Knight Show. Yeah,
the name of the channel didn't say that. It was
just that we had that thing you heard at the
end of the music pumpers that would create You're listening
to the David Knight Show.

Speaker 4 (01:52:43):
Yeah. To me, that seems very far fetch that the
AI would have that specific SoundBite indexed and known to
look for it. It could. To me, it feels specifically
targeted from YouTube for us. That could be wrong. Yeah,
but I have seen that a lot of different people
who were banned that have come back to YouTube, so

(01:53:04):
they are actually letting people back. On whether they would
let us is another story. But you know, guys, one
specific guy who I never expected to see on YouTube again,
they had him banned and he was just completely disallowed
from uploading his back and so it's.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
Well, they're very eager to platform Nick Fuente's right now everywhere.
I mean I'm seeing articles all the time from the left,
from the Drudge Report and everything about Nickquente's. You know
if when did Nick Haffer lunch today? You know, it's
that kind of stuff, and they really want him to
be the face of their opposition for obvious reasons.

Speaker 4 (01:53:39):
I think, well, I mean, he's, in my opinion, he's
absolutely controlled. After January sixth, you know, so many of
his followers got arrested and nothing happened to him, despite
the fact he was the ringleader of his little girls.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
He was. There are all these different meetings with Alex
Jones as well, So I mean the two of them,
you know, look at what happened to their follower and
what did not happen to them. The dog that did
not bark, as Sherlock Hohlms said, that's kind of solway
was the case about controlled opposition very much? So yeah,
so again Biden, all the headlines from all the conservative

(01:54:18):
papers all trumpeting the fact that Biden did it, but
they will not talk about what Trump did. And Trump
did it as well. And as I said, I don't
see any of Jim Jordan, none of these other people
saying we're going to make sure that corporations and bureaucracies
don't punish people for what they say. I mean, because

(01:54:40):
they're not going to do that, because at the same time,
you've got Trump trying to weaponize the FCC. And Jimmy
Kimmel came back and I thought what he had to
say was very funny, Actually the funniest thing I've heard
him ever say. Listen to what he says about his return.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
He tried his best to cancel me. Instead he forced
millions of people watched the show.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
That backfired Bigley. He might have to.

Speaker 4 (01:55:04):
Release the Epstein files to distract us from this.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
Now that's perfect because the firing of Kimmel, along with
all these other things that Trump has been doing, were
to distract people from the Epstein files to start with.
So that was a clever joke. Whoever wrote that, you know,
and these guys he did a late night show when

(01:55:28):
they were really focused on jokes. They had a pretty
good writing staff. Many of the people who were on
the staff had a career of their own as comedians
later on, so again Biden pressed YouTube to censor COVID
misinformation and any information about the vaccines, any information about

(01:55:51):
Hunter Biden, all the rest of this stuff. But there's many,
many other things, and specifically it was about people. As
I said before, a no see list that is there.
Brendan Carr says networks must serve the public interest. Is
that any different than what Biden was saying when he
said that these network these social media must serve the

(01:56:13):
public health. So we're going to justify censorship during COVID
so forth because we've got to protect public health. And
so now the Trump administration and Brendan car at the
SEC says that we have to serve public interest. Every
time they put the adjective public in front of something,

(01:56:35):
it's exactly the opposite of what you might hope it means.
And so since the since all of this stuff is
happening again, would Trump take us into a war in
order to distract us from this stuff? Of course Clinton
did that with a wag the dog. And Trump has
no compulsion whatsoever about mass murder or murder on a

(01:56:58):
one to one basis. So Google is vowed to restate
the banned YouTube accounts after admitting to political censorship, let
us know if you think that we should.

Speaker 4 (01:57:07):
Watching, And the majority of people seem to be saying, yeah,
you should get on YouTube. They may eventually ban you,
but at least maybe you'll get to, you know, share
with more people.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
I don't know, you know, when when Alex started attacking me,
when Owen left or was fired, whatever happened. I don't
know what happened. I wasn't there. But when he started
attacking me again, you know, five years later, he hasn't
gotten over it, and people started contacted us say I
didn't know that you were still there. It's like, yeah,
that was the point. Alex at first didn't want to

(01:57:39):
use my name, and he wanted to shut down all
the different avenues that even keeping some of the places
we were posting stuff. But now the it's turned around
in a different direction. I would also talk about before
leave this the tech issue. It was kind of interesting,
you know, we talked about how Lance had a situation

(01:57:59):
where he gave the classic case, I don't know what
is at least you got a lamb and a wolf
and a cabbage or something. You got to get them,
ferry them across and you left out one of the
key ingredients, and it wanted to give you the canned response,
and when you pointed out it was wrong, you just
kind of melted down. It was really funny. It was
like something straight out of a Star Trek sci fi episode.

(01:58:20):
You could almost see the thing shaking and smoking as
the lights are flashing.

Speaker 5 (01:58:25):
Yeah. Yeah, the old rule of you've got a wolf, sheep,
and a boat and you got to get across the river.
But you can only take one of these things. But
if you leave the wolf with the sheep and lead it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:40):
So you left out one of those and it couldn't
handle it. People are doing a similar situation now with
football teams. They asked the latest chat GPT chat GPT five.
They asked it to tell it teams that don't end
an S, and it comes back and says, yes, there's
two NFL teams whose names don't end with an S,

(01:59:02):
before proceeding to list the two names that do. Uh,
that's the Miami Dolphins and the Green Bay Packers, and
then it says, well, wait a minute, they do end
with an S, especially when you point it out to it,
and then it says it gets into a loop and
it can't get out of that. It is it is

(01:59:23):
absolutely definite. First it'll go for Miami Dolphins back then
go to the Washington Commanders and Chicago Bears, because every
team ends with an S. And they said it has
a nervous breakdown, just like when you slightly modified that
test and started trying to just put it back and
it'll come back and say no. Now, the actual answer

(01:59:44):
is it'll say at one point just like it did
with you, and it'll come back and they'll regurgitate that
and come up with another couple of teams that end
an S. And it's it's kind of interesting to see
how it functions. China is opening a Bedega that is
going to be entirely run by robots, and this is

(02:00:04):
a little shop and it's become something of a curiosity
for people to watch this thing. But understand that the
robots are suddenly coming. They're going to start mass producing
these things, and they want to have the biped robots,
even though in a lot of manufacturing operations, the non
walking robots are actually far more efficient and make a

(02:00:27):
lot more sense. They're a lot more stable because they're
not mobile, or maybe they have wheels instead of two legs,
because two legs mean that they can't lift as strong
as things as they could if they were solid. And
so here you see a combination of robots that are
kind of this particular one looks like Captain Pike from
Star Trek. We had the machine. I wonder if it

(02:00:49):
just if it beats over and over again. But there
are some really weird robots that are coming as well.
One person said, well, maybe all the robots aren't going
to be imitations of human beings. You know, maybe what
they'll do is they'll imitate centipedes and other creepy crawleys
as well, which is what we're seeing right here. This
isn't going to be the future of warfare, and this

(02:01:11):
is what idiots like Trump are going to wind up
unleashing on us with their geopolitics. This is what we're
going to wind up having to fight. So we have our.

Speaker 5 (02:01:22):
Employees, but that could be real weapons.

Speaker 2 (02:01:26):
Yeah, exactly. We've seen some of some really bizarre things
coming out of China as well. So yeah, these things
right now at this point they're just toy prototypes. But
the interesting thing is when you talk to a lot
of these people, you know they elon Musk and his

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Optimus robot. They said that's going to be a trillion
dollar product, and yet when he did his demonstration, he
had human operators that were there. The same thing is
happening with the another robotics firm where the guy invited
the reporters to come into his house. He says, at first,

(02:02:07):
everybody's kind of wary of this robot. It's just doing
household chores, acting like a butler. But he goes after
about a half hour, they get over that, and then
within another half hour they're just fine with that. Then
as he continues to talk to them in the interview,
he admits that it's actually human employees who are actually
running this thing from VR headsets. Again, just like we've

(02:02:28):
said before, AI stands for actually Indians. And this is
a repeated theme that you see throughout these articles, even
one from Technocracy that was brought in and from the
Washington Post where they're trying to hype the fact that
there's a massive army of robots on the way, they
still admit that they are, for the most part, being

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controlled by humans.

Speaker 5 (02:02:51):
And let's a step beyond having a maid. You have
a maid that's remotely tele of prompting in with the
you know, super expensive thirty thousand dollars walking robot costs.

Speaker 2 (02:03:04):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's of course this guy is
wealthy enough that he can hire somebody to control the
robot made remotely. That's crazy. Well, we're going to take
a break before we do, let's grab a couple of
these comments. Here we have Eric Peters of ap Autos
Eric Peters autos dot com. He's going to be joining us,

(02:03:25):
and it's always a great It's always great to talk
to Eric. Looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (02:03:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:03:29):
Citizen of Americaca says automation is garbage, but in the
end of this century, the atomic bomb will no longer
be considered the most catastrophic thing to mankind, rather robotics
and artificial intelligence.

Speaker 2 (02:03:39):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (02:03:40):
Christian const Social conservator says it is ridiculously to a
broad comparison to Alcoholer's event and only have to do
a per capita comparison, that is a you know, that's
a fair assessment to make, and you have to compare
the number of people that are on each and the outcomes.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
I would just suggest people don't use either one. Yeah,
I would suggest you don't compare them yourself. How about that?

Speaker 5 (02:03:59):
Yeah, up the other comment saying that there are more deaths,
which you know, it is obviously more depths and what
he said is fair that you need to look at
per capita. But I was just putting that up as
a criticism of the prohibition.

Speaker 4 (02:04:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Audi m r R. They want
us to use AI in place of thinking, yeah, just
trust the AI. It'll tell you what you need to know.

Speaker 2 (02:04:24):
I maybe means anti intellectual.

Speaker 4 (02:04:26):
Yeah, CULTI sim will you tube blues of the lawsuits
of people suing them? That is beyond my ability to predict.
The courts are so incredibly corrupt and unjust that getting
a reading on what they'll decide on any case is impossible. Really,
in my opinion, it's.

Speaker 2 (02:04:43):
Hard to say. I mean, even if they had to
give compensation to people, it would be worth it for
them to toe the line with the government so the
government doesn't take punitive action with them. The government has
a big stick, and it's got lots of carrots in
its pocket, and it hands out those treats to people
if they do what they want, and it hits you
with a big stick if you don't do what they want.

(02:05:04):
That's how they get their way with the corporatetocracy, and
that's where we're going with the technocracy. We're gonna take
a quick break and we'll be right.

Speaker 1 (02:05:10):
Back defending the American dream. You're listening to the David

(02:07:54):
Knight Show.

Speaker 2 (02:07:56):
Welcome back and joining us now is Eric Peters of
Eric Peters autos dot Com. Always great to have Eric on.
He has focused on liberty and mobility because you can't
have one without the other. It's kind of all what
Jefferson said about life and liberty. He said, the hand
of force can destroy life or liberty, but cannot separate them.

(02:08:18):
Of course, he said disjoin them. But that's a little
bit stilted for our language, but it definitely is true,
and you cannot disjoin liberty and mobility either. So I
always enjoy Eric's take on things. Eric, I was sad
to see that you're We were just talking about this
over the break. You wrote a piece three days ago.

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You said, our Charlie, what happened in your family?

Speaker 9 (02:08:45):
Well, yeah, it's a tough thing to talk about. I
hope all the people to do this well enough. But
we had a had about a two and a half
year old mixed freed German shepherd lab and you know,
he's been my companion for that whole time and just
a very big presence in our life. Anyway, he got
hit by I guess a car truck. I'm not sure

(02:09:05):
exactly which, And it was really jarring because as anybody
who's been through having a pet die knows, it's one
thing when your pet is elderly and old or sick
and you you know, you understand that it's going to happen,
and you have time to prepare for it. But you know,
with a with a young pet like that, to just
be gone instantly, just like that, just what happened really difficult.

(02:09:27):
You know, boy, for the last several days has happened
on Friday, I've been having deja vu, you know, certain
times of the of the day, like oh, I better
put put water in paces bowl, or oh, it's time
for us to go for our run. I went for
a run on Monday, and you know, one of his
things that he would do he would carry around he
was a strong dog, a big log in his mouth
and he would keep it in his mouth for a

(02:09:47):
mile or more on our run. You know, It's just
one of those things. And as I'm running by myself,
which was strange. I saw one of the logs that
he dropped off on the trail and it just really,
I'm sorry, it kind of really overly emotional about it.
So I apologize.

Speaker 2 (02:10:03):
Oh no, I understand, absolutely understand. It's like you said,
it's the suddenness of this, and I think that's one
of the things that really magnified what happened to Charlie Kirk.
But I think you know, when we look at it
and how they have taken his legacy and they have
flipped it completely opposite of what he was known for,
what he ought to be remembered for. They're doing everything

(02:10:24):
they can to make a saint a celebrity or whatever.
They're in Oklahoma, they want to put a Charlie Kirk
statue on every university campus. I think the right way
to honor him is to support free speech, but it
seems like the people who agreed with him and who
followed him want to do just the opposite of that.

(02:10:47):
They want to attack free speech, and they think this
gives them an opportunity to do what they know the
left was doing to them before. What do you think.

Speaker 9 (02:10:55):
Trump, did you happen to patch the interview. It was
a couple of days after Kirk's assassination, and I wish
I could remember who the journalist was. It was a woman,
and you know, she was asking Trump about the calls
to suppress what they called hate speech. Now, it's interesting
that Trump all people the right. It's not even exactly
what they excoriated the left for doing during the twenty

(02:11:17):
twenty four campaign season, and it was one of the
reasons why people voted for Trump, because they were tired
of having their differing opinions framed as hate. I've got
a question, Oh, you're hateful. You know, we can't discuss
that because clearly you're a Cretan and you're you know,
you're motivated by malicious motives rather than Hey, I just
have a question. Anyway, this female reporter asked Trump about that,

(02:11:40):
and Trump had the egregious vulgar gall to say something like, uh, well,
Charlie Cook does he may not think that way anymore.
I can't remember that.

Speaker 2 (02:11:50):
Yeah, that's exactly what he said. We played that clip. Yeah,
she said, Charlie kirkch said there's no such thing as
hate speech. I probably wouldn't say that now. Yeah, that's yeah, just.

Speaker 9 (02:11:58):
Spicable because again, everything that whether you agree with what
Kirk had to say or not, I think the one
thing that has to be universally acknowledged is that he
was willing to debate. He was willing to discuss practically
any topic, including even Israel and the influence of the
Israeli government over the American government. And I think that's
ultimately what got him into trouble. You know, Trump demands

(02:12:18):
Lockstep adherents and even worship of himself and his policies,
and he does it in a manner that's just so
abrasive and insulting to the people who support him. This
latest business of doing the parking break one eighty on Ukraine,
you know, again, it's another example. You know, if people
had been aware that he was going to do that
in twenty twenty four, I doubt many people would have

(02:12:39):
voted for him. One of the reasons, small reasons people
voted for him was we are sick of all these wars.
We're sick of being forced to finance it through our
taxes and thereby be complicit in it. You know, the
mass murder in Gaza. We want no part of this stuff.
It's got to stop. That's one of the reasons why
people voted for him. And now this brazen guy just says, well,
we're going to back you. And not only that, he's

(02:13:01):
saying that Ukraine has a right to not only sees
back every territory that it's lost, but potentially even more
than that.

Speaker 2 (02:13:06):
Yeah, it takes back from Russia. Exactly.

Speaker 9 (02:13:09):
It's madness. How do they think that this is going
to be received by Putin? What do you think Putin's
response to this is going to be. I wouldn't be
surprised if he amps things up because he believes that
he's got a narrow window of opportunity now to finish
this situation before boots that go on the ground, potentially
American boots.

Speaker 2 (02:13:27):
That's right. Yeah, he is taunting Putin, saying he doesn't
have much a military. He could have finished this off
in a couple of weeks, you know, like we finished
off Afghanistan, right in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 9 (02:13:38):
I was having a conversation with a friend of mine
who stopped by yesterday about this, and we got to
talking about Putin versus Trump and the difference between a
serious person and a clown.

Speaker 2 (02:13:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:13:48):
Now, whatever you may think of Putin. You don't have
to say that you like him. You know, that's a
childish argument. It's not about whether you think he's a
nice man or a bad man. He's a serious man.
He's a serious person with his credentials, who is not
an idiot and who understands history. And look at Trump,
what do we have. You know, we literally have a
clown going up against a serious person, a dangerous clown.

Speaker 2 (02:14:10):
I believe he was installed for that very reason. You know,
even had his first Commerce secretary, William Let's see Webber Ross,
who said that you know, it was the Rosschild bank
that he was working for, and he said, you know,
when Trump was going bankrupt, he showed up and he
saw this big crowd around him. He said, I contacted
the Rothschild people and I said, hey, this is somebody

(02:14:31):
I think we could use. And I think that's exactly
why they're doing. They're using him as a clown. They're
using him to divide people, They're using him to create chaos.
I think that's his.

Speaker 9 (02:14:40):
Role and also a distraction, and maybe the worst kind
of distraction imaginable, you know, as everything falls apart internally,
and you know, potentially, let's say the Epstein things percolates
up again, or we find new details about what may
have been involved in Kirk's murder that could have incredibly
damaging repercussions, a perfect thing to get people's mind off

(02:15:01):
of that. Well, perhaps a big war in Eastern Europe
was do just that. That's right, and that's what I
have this creepy feeling maybe in the works.

Speaker 2 (02:15:11):
And I think he's absolutely capable of it. You know.
You look at what he's doing with the trying to
make an excuse that he can blow up ships off
of Venezuela without even stopping them or verifying that they're
running drugs. And as I pointed out at the same
time that he's saying, this is an appropriate response, and JD.
Vance is saying it's appropriate. Marco Rubio and Pete Haiksth

(02:15:32):
are all saying, oh, this is what our military is for. No,
it's not. We had our military was stopping ships, inspecting them.
If they find drugs, they would take the drugs, they
would arrest the people they didn't line them up on
the side of the boat and machine gun them. And
so this is an extra judicial killing. I told the
audience earlier on the program, I said, Dutarte did this

(02:15:53):
in the Philippines. He said, you know, you think it's
a drug dealer, shoot to kill, And he's now and
the International Criminal Court and they're looking at him for
those extra judicial killings. It's a crime, it's a war
crime that he's doing. So he's perfectly capable.

Speaker 9 (02:16:08):
Yeah, it's a psychopathic elaboration of that old if you
see something, say something. Now, if you see something, kill something. Yeah,
these are acts of war and they're also the acts
of a coward bully in that Venezuela. It's just another
example of big old Uncle Sam throwing his weight around
and extraditionally extra judicially killing foreign nationals outside of the

(02:16:30):
United States with impunity because you know, we can do it.
What's Venezuela going to do about it?

Speaker 2 (02:16:35):
That's right?

Speaker 9 (02:16:35):
You know, I think at some point Trump is going
to whack the wrong guy, and Putin could be just
the guy who's the wrong guy to whack.

Speaker 2 (02:16:42):
That's right, That's right. Yeah, it's very concerning, you know,
even escalated saying you know, we should shoot down Russian
jets if they get anywhere close to the borders and
things like that as well. It's a dangerous time that
we live in. Of course, very much like the Chinese curse,
isn't it may you live in interesting times. There's never
a shortage of thanks very part. It's like and now
for something completely different from Trump than he said yesterday.

(02:17:04):
You know, it's like money Python.

Speaker 9 (02:17:06):
I'm glad you brought up China. It just I happened.
I needed to break thro other day, and so I
was just watching some random YouTube videos, and I was
watching some videos of depicting scenes in China around, for example,
their train stations and their airports, their infrastructure, which is
immaculate and modern. I looked at their bullet trains, and
I compared it with what's going on in this country.
You know, China is actually concerned with China and trying

(02:17:29):
to build up its own internal society and improve itself,
where it seems that the US is de industrializing and
rapidly descending from second to third world status, you know,
to the extent we can actually see the change from
day to day.

Speaker 2 (02:17:42):
Yeah, and it's by design, and it's by the same
people that are running Trump. Even though he pushes back
against the climate mcguffin that I call it still it's
the deliberate de industrialization of the West. And there's two
sides of that. They want to de industrialize the West
while they give China the advantage in terms of manufacturing,

(02:18:02):
and the huge advantage that they have is in terms
of energy cost. But as Jeryl Slenti has said many
times on the show, he said, the business of China
is business. The business of America is war, and that's
not serving us well.

Speaker 9 (02:18:16):
And constructiveness, Yeah, I saw something also related to China
that talked. It was a person talking about how in
China the oligarchs, the really rich people kind of do
what American oligarchs did in the late part of the
nineteenth and early twentieth century when they did things like
the Carnegie Library. You know, they funded these these vast
things that were good for Americans, you know, leaving aside

(02:18:36):
the question of corporate oligarchs. At least they put me
back into the country, whereas now the oligarch class in
this country just flaunts its gratuitous, egregious theft wealth, you know,
with one twenty thousand dollars mcmanson after the next, and
yachts and lavish lifestyles, thumbing their nose and rubbing our
faces in it.

Speaker 2 (02:18:55):
Yeah, yeah, And to make it clear. You know, when
you look at somebody like can Ford who had his issues,
he wanted to make sure that his workers could afford
to buy the product that he has. Who's going to
buy these products when they replace all of us with robots,
That's what their goal is. They won't replace everybody with robots.
And I said when Trump did his tax cut in

(02:19:17):
twenty seventeen, because it was all targeted towards corporations and
he was going to incentivize them to bring to onshore manufacturing,
I said, that's not going to happen until they've got
the robots to replace the workers. I said, that's why
they've got the open border immigration. And once they have
robots to that point, they'll get tough on immigration and

(02:19:39):
they will pay these oligarchs a lot of money to
bring factories back, but it's not going to bring back
any jobs. They're just going to be incentivized to build
the factories and they'll brag about the fact that they've
got manufacturing in the United States, but they won't be
using it to raise the standard of living of anybody.
And I think that's really what is happening and what

(02:19:59):
is going to happen?

Speaker 9 (02:20:01):
I think so too, And I'd like to focus on
something that you mentioned, which has to do with that
word about owning things. You know, they're not concerned about that.
It's not it's not that they're you know, well, how
are people going to be able to afford these fifty
thousand dollars vehicles that they're pushing out right now? They
know that the end goal is for you to not own.

Speaker 2 (02:20:19):
The vehicle exactly.

Speaker 9 (02:20:20):
The end goal is for you to rent the ride,
to rent everything, you know, sort of like the way
that you pay for a streaming service so that you
can watch TV. That's what they want, Serial debt. They
want to completely disconnect us, you know, the typical average
American from owning anything, in order to control everything.

Speaker 2 (02:20:40):
It isn't like they didn't tell us. They constantly it's
like you will own nothing, right, yes, you'll be happy.
And I thought about you this way. So why I
wanted to get you back on because I thought, yeah,
I haven't talk to Eric for a while. I saw
that Portia was having problems, and Portia, of course owned
by VW, and the two of them are having to
pull back because they can't sell their evs. And I

(02:21:02):
remember I said, and I talked to the audience, I said, yeah,
Eric's been saying this for the longest time. They should
have hired him as CEO of Portie. They wouldn't have
had this issue because you knew, and of course common
sense would tell us that they have a huge advantage.
These companies that have been making internal combustion engines for
a long time, they had a huge advantage to China

(02:21:23):
or to other potential competitors that had to be destroyed
by saying no, now we can't use internal combustion engines.
We're going to have to do the skates of the evs.
And China's got the advantage with the battery technology. They've
also got now a manufacturing advantage in terms of cheap
available energy. Energy is so expensive in the UK they're

(02:21:43):
shutting down all their manufacturing and in Germany it's very expensive.
They can't be cost competitive with it. But now they're saying, hey,
we're going to have to pull back a little bit.
We've mal invested billions of dollars in the EV industry.
Nobody wants these things, nobody's buying it, so now we're
going to have to pull back and try to have
a cottage industry of maybe being allowed to sell some

(02:22:06):
internal combustion engines. But it's going to break the back
if it's even allowed of these, If they even allowed
to sell a few boutique things to the rich, it's
still going to break their back.

Speaker 9 (02:22:18):
It will, and this is a general problem. Stilantis, which
is the parent company of the Dodge, Ram, jeep and
Chrysler brands, announced about a week ago that they were
not going to produce the electric version of the Ram
fifteen hundred pickup that they had planned bring out in
twenty twenty six because they understand that it would be
a disaster that nobody's going to buy it. And so
rather than just build these things and then shipping them

(02:22:40):
to dealers where they're just going to sit and then
having to give them away fire sale prices, which is
what Fords had to do with fighting, they figured it
is one thing to do is to cut bait. You know,
they've practically destroyed the Dodge brand already by getting rid
of the engine in the charger and getting rid of
the Challenger altogether and replacing it with this electric charger,
which has been an epic flop. I mean it is

(02:23:01):
even worse than the Adds, a disaster back in the fifties,
and it hasn't been remarked on, but I mean it's
that bad. They can't sell these things. I have yet
to see one in the wild. I have yet to
see one on the road. They haven't even sent me
one to review yet. Because you know, it's not just
that they're short range and all the other problems that
electric vehicles have. It's not well made. It's a problematic,

(02:23:23):
problem prone vehicle that suffers endless glitches such as bricking,
to the point where they have to send out a
technician to try to figure out why it won't move. Now,
the other thing is that you brought up. I find
this leaf endlessly fascinating with regard to portion and these
other manufacturers that are no longer run by car people,
because any car guy would tell you that a Porsche

(02:23:43):
there are intangibles when it comes to a car like that.
It's not just about how quickly it goes to zero
to sixty. You know, they fatal error and thinking well,
we'll just basically produce a Tesla that looks like a
Porsche essentially, you know, and somehow we'll sell that feeling.
To understand that one of the big reasons that people
buy Porsches is because they love that six cylinder boxer

(02:24:04):
engine and they love the sound that it makes and
the emotional, visceral feeling that you get that is lost entirely.
Electric vehicles are fundamentally homogeneous. Say what you will about
you know, will the reply it and this and that?
But they're fundamentally when you drive one, you've driven them all.

Speaker 2 (02:24:18):
Yeah, you know, and don't they does Porsche and some
of these other sports car companies when they make their evs,
do they take the Tesla approach in terms of instrumentation,
because that's one of the things that is also a
part of the field. You know, how does the controls feel?
Does it feel solid or tensy? I hate the idea
that I've got to use a touchscreen while I'm driving.

(02:24:38):
How is that safe? You know, you're supposed to use
hands off of your phone or we'll give you a ticket.
But hey, it's a wonderful thing if we take all
the controls. Even on Tesla, you can't even adjust the
direction of the air vents without using the touchpad that
is attached to the dashboard.

Speaker 9 (02:24:57):
Yep, and they're all doing it now, right now in
the driveway. I have a brand new twenty twenty six
Kia Sportage, which is a nothing special little crossover that
stickers for about twenty eight thousand dollars, and it's got
a full width, single sheet LCD screen for everything, you know,
the main instrument cluster, and then off to its right
is the thing that you have to tap and swipe
through in order to operate functions such as, you know,

(02:25:18):
changing the station that you're listening to. And you're right,
And it's just an illustration of how disingenuous the government
is because on the one hand, they say to people, ah,
you can't use your cell phone while you're driving, because
it's dangerous to be looking at your phone and swiping
and tapping a screen while you're trying to drive. You
can't keep your eyes on the road. But it's no
problem if you build the thing into the car. Yeah,

(02:25:39):
it's okay.

Speaker 2 (02:25:40):
We need to have some controls that I have to
take my seat belt off in order to use, right, Yeah, so.

Speaker 9 (02:25:44):
One of the you know, to get back to circle
back to what we were talking about. The great disaster
in my opinion. And it's another one is that this
homogeneity of appearance in the interior of cars that has
been that has been bequeathed to us by this obsession
with reproducing the smartphone in your car, the look of
a smartphone, so now you've lost that individuality too, instead

(02:26:05):
of having this kind of neat array of gauge. Is
a really good example of this. A couple of weeks ago,
I had the latest Mini Cooper and it used to
be that one of the cool things about the Mini Cooper,
which is owned by the Germans, it's owned by BMW,
but nonetheless was that they replicated the feel, the look
and the function of the sixties Minis. You know, if
you've ever been in one of the models, they had
the cool little chrome toggle switches, you know, and it

(02:26:28):
had a vibe to it, that feel, and it was
like no other car. Well, they did what everybody else
is doing, and they got rid of essentially all of
the physical tactile controls, the switches and knobs, and in
lieu of that, they put one gigantic pie plate touchscreen,
you know, in the middle, in the center of the
and it looks cheap, it looks homogeneous and it's also
in a way, in my opinion, it's anti human, it's

(02:26:50):
antiseptic cold.

Speaker 2 (02:26:52):
You know, they shut down the last UK factory for
the Mini bmwdad Am, I correct.

Speaker 9 (02:27:00):
They just shouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 2 (02:27:02):
I saw something because again, you can't do manufacturing in
the US because hair Starmer, the Nazi doesn't want you
to have any energy, so they shut it down. I
don't think, you know. And it was an article of
the UK uh and they were saying, you know, this
is something that was fundamentally British, as you point about,
very any idiosyncratic, and now it's not going to be

(02:27:24):
made anymore in Britain because of the cost of energy
that's there.

Speaker 9 (02:27:30):
Yeah, if nothing survives any longer except the brand, you know,
that's what you get label well, you know, inside the same.

Speaker 2 (02:27:37):
When you talk about the design of these cars and
how we've lost so much of this around this area.
You know, we're not too far away from Pigeon Forge
and last week they just had a big classic car
show and uh, that's when it really hits home, you know,
when you see one of these cars, which it never
really valued. I mean it might have just been like

(02:27:58):
a family sedan or something, you know, fifty years ago.
But you look at it, it's like, wow, that's really quirky.
That's kind of interesting looking. Look at those colors, you know,
and all the rest of this stuff. Look at the colors,
look at the chrome. It really is entertaining to see
cars that were just ordinary cars or ordinary trucks half
a century ago. To see them and to see how
different they were and how unique they all were. And

(02:28:21):
so it really kind of drives it home here in
the Pigeon Forgerry. And they have these car shows that
happened frequently. The big one was last weekend. They had that.
But you've got some articles at Eric Peters Auto's dot
com about some of the difficulties of keeping these older
cars running, talk about ethanol blues.

Speaker 9 (02:28:42):
Was that about, Yeah, you know, I have to, as
the saying goes in the hood, cop to something which
is bigrassing for me, because you know, I shouldn't all
of all people just should not have happened to me.
But I was lazy one day, and this is several
months back, probably about eight months ago, when I was
out driving my old muscle car. I have a seventy
six ran Zam and rather than go all the way

(02:29:03):
into town where they have a station that sells unadulterated
pure gasoline, which is normally what I use to fill
the car up with because it sits sometimes for and
get I get preoccupied with work and other things. Sometimes
the car, unfortunately, will sit for several months before I
have time to drive it. Anyway, I filled it up
with E ten, which is only ninety percent gas and
ten percent ethanol, and I left it to sit, and

(02:29:26):
it sat for about three months. God helped me. You know,
I deserve to be beaten for that. Anyway, I went,
I went to start it, and boy, I barely got
it to run, and it was going, you know, smoke
pouring out of it. A long story short, I ended
up having to take the carburetor off the engine and
completely disassemble it and clean out the ethanol gunk inside

(02:29:48):
the carburetor because the fuel had gone bad over the
time that I kept it in storage. Basically, and you
know this is a problem with these older vehicles because
you know, my car was made in nineteen seventy six,
and in nineteen si seventy six, when you bought gas,
you actually got gas for your money. One hundred percent gasoline.
Most people don't understand that most pomp gas is ten
percent ethanol alcohol. And if you own a vehicle that

(02:30:11):
was made before that came into being, that vehicle was
not designed for alcohol. Alcohol is a different fuel than gasoline.
It has different properties. It attracts water among other things.
It's corrosive.

Speaker 2 (02:30:22):
Does it degrade faster than pure gasoline? Then I guess
it does. That's what you're saying. Pure gasoline will degrade
as well, right, but much longer period of time.

Speaker 9 (02:30:31):
Yeah, anybody who has outdoor power equipment knows that the
real problem is if you put ethanol in a gas
jugglets saying you put it in your shed and leave it,
you know, it'll tend to accumulate water much more rapidly
than regular gasoline. And you can also look at the color,
the change in the color, you know, as it starts
to go from almost translucent to sort of a yellow
and then a darker yellow color. And that's a clue

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not to use it.

Speaker 2 (02:30:52):
By the way, Well that's interesting. You also talk about
oil and additives in the oil that are different now
for the older cars.

Speaker 9 (02:31:02):
Well, yeah, it's not just the additives. Again, to get
circling back to the transam. After I cleaned out the
gunk from the carburetor and got it running well again,
I recognized, oh boy, it's time to change the oil.
So I went down to the autoparts store and I
looked at the rack of oil, and the rack of
oil is you know, it's the whole with the store.
They have all kinds of different oil, but they didn't
have any ten forty anymore, you know, and my car

(02:31:25):
when it was made was designed to have ten forty oil.
So that's what specified and that's what I used. There's
a reason why there's a specification, you know, and generally speaking,
it's sound policy to follow what the specification is.

Speaker 2 (02:31:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:31:37):
Yeah, but you know, if you've been to it, if
you've been to a car parts store lately and looked
at the oil rack, you'll see all these exotic formulations,
you know, zero W fifty this and that because they
thinned out the oil because it helps with compliance. You know,
this is this is again, it offers the manufacturers this
incremental friction reduction which translates into slightly higher gas miles.

(02:31:58):
Not anything you would notice as a vehicle owner, but
when you factor it out, over say half a million
vehicles that you build. Then it helps corporate average fuel
economy with the compliance with that federal requirement, and it
also helps with emissions. And you know, this is the
obsession now that the manufacturers have it's compliance. Their primary
customer now is the government, not you. You know, you're

(02:32:19):
sort of an instidentual person. I'm longing to buy what
the government says you're allowed to have.

Speaker 2 (02:32:23):
That's right, that's right, because the government put them out
of business if they don't please the government. And so
that is their primary customer. In so many cases, the
only customer that they care about is the government. That's
really what's going on with social media and with YouTube,
I think, isn't it? It is?

Speaker 9 (02:32:39):
And so, long story short, I ended up having to
go online to find a good, high quality ten forty
for my old muscle car. Now, previously I'd also had
to go online to get there's an additive. It generally
it goes by the acronym ZDDP and it's essentially a
zinc manganese additive. And it used to be president present
in all the store, motor store, blog, motor oil, but

(02:33:00):
they began to take it out and now there's a
much less of that additive in store ball At motor oil.
If you have a new or late model vehicle, it
doesn't matter the engine was designed for that. But if
you have an older vehicle, particularly an older American vehicle
with what's called a flat tap at camshaft, so essentially
an American car made before the early eighties with a
V eight engine, typically it's important that you use that additive.

(02:33:23):
And if you're going to be somebody to go, if
you're going to go out and buy one of those
classic cars from that era, it's something to be aware
of because if you don't use that additive, you risk
valve train failure. The camshaft and lifters in those engines
were designed to have that anti friction additive in it,
and if you use regular oil, you're very likely to
have a problem that you don't want to have.

Speaker 2 (02:33:43):
What about the aftermarket, Let's say that you have some
problems because you didn't have the right oil and fuel
and things like that. How difficult is it to get
parts for these things. I'm sure it varies depending on
how rare your car is, but just something kind of
in the middle or something maybe like a you know,

(02:34:03):
a fifties Chevy or something like that. Is it really diffinitent?
Do they have much of an aftermarket for parts with that?

Speaker 9 (02:34:10):
Yeah, particularly with mechanical things. One of the great pluses
of owning, say a General Motors product or Forward product
from that era is that they shared mechanical things. Engines,
you know, an engine like a small block Chevy was
used in practically every model vehicle that Chevrolet made, you know,
from the fifties through the sixties, seventies, and eighties, and
so there is a robust and abundant aftermarket as well

(02:34:33):
as used market for those kinds of parts. You'll have
sometimes difficulty finding trim pieces, you know, for an odd
ball make you know, say it was a one year
vehicle where they only had that that grill for that
one year. I have that issue with my seventy fix
as a unique front end for that for that year.
So yeah, sometimes, you know, these cosmetic parts will be
more difficult to find. But generally, if you pick a

(02:34:53):
popular vehicle that was made in large numbers from that era,
you're not going to have any difficulty finding the necessary
parts that you have to have in order to keep
the vehicles serviceable and running.

Speaker 2 (02:35:04):
That's interesting, Yeah, because I guess I certainly do see
a lot of classic cars right here. Yeah, I guess
if you had an Edsul and you got your horse
collar a grill, you.

Speaker 9 (02:35:15):
Can keep that going. One of the great is Volkswagen Beetle.
You know, to this day, you can easily find any
part that you need to keep a Beetle running. So,
you know, that's a great choice if you just want
a very basic, simple, completely analog, non non digital, non
data mining, non connected car that anybody could service. If
they're willing to turn a screw driver or a wrench

(02:35:36):
and have basic hand tools, that's a great choice.

Speaker 2 (02:35:38):
Yeah, yeah, I know there's a huge aftermarket for the mazes,
especially the first generation of Maza that's out there. They're
even doing full restorations, and or at least were for
a short period of time ount and if they are
still doing it now, it's a couple of years ago.
They're doing full factory spec restorations in Japan. They would
do it in Japan and the factory was doing it,

(02:36:00):
Mazda was doing it. I don't know if they're still
doing that or not. Now you got an article and
I'm reaching back now at the beginning of August. Pontiacs
were cool. I thought they were as well. I was
just so amazed that when they decided they're going to
get rid of an entire make that they kept Buick
and got rid of Pontiac. I thought that was really strange,
because Buick was always perceived as kind of an older

(02:36:24):
person's car, or it was a family car, something like that,
where as Pontiac's had kind of a sporty panache to them.

Speaker 9 (02:36:32):
Right, yep, well there's a reason for that. For whatever reason,
Buick's are immensely popular in China, and that's where they're
believe it or not, GM sells a ton of Buicks
in China, where it's considered kind of a status vehicle
to have, and all they sell here are made in China.

Speaker 2 (02:36:48):
Is that right? Yeah, we used to use Buick. We
use that as newphinism for throwing up, someone says in
the bathroom selling Buick's.

Speaker 9 (02:36:57):
Now. It's really sad though, with regard to Pontiac and Pontiac's,
one example of many is that you had a once
distinctive brand, and in fact, Pontiac actually was literally a
car company at one time. It wasn't a marketing company.
It actually had an engineering staff and they engineered their
engines which were different than Chevy engines. So when you
bought a Pontiac, you weren't just buying a rebadge Chevy.

(02:37:18):
There may have been commonality of the underlying platform, but
it was a fundamentally different car. I'll again refer to
my own car. A seventy six Pontiac Transam is a
very different car than a seventy six Camaro. Even though
they share a common underthing, their drive frames are different,
and that makes it worth buying the Pontiac. You know.
It's not that one's better or worse. It's simply that

(02:37:38):
it is different. And GM actually allowed Pontiac for a
great deal of time to be sort of the raucous
you know, go get them a brand, you know that
had had performance and style and attitude, kind of like
what Dodge was before Stilantis ruined everything.

Speaker 2 (02:37:56):
Yea.

Speaker 9 (02:37:56):
You know, they just had this great reputation for you know,
not just crude muscle cars, but cool muscle cars. It
had some panastu them, you know, like Catalinas and Grand
Prixs and of course GTOs and everything, which were a
little bit more refined than say something like a Chevelle
ass which is a great car, but it's not the
same thing as a Gto right right, yeah, yeah, And

(02:38:18):
they just hollowed all of this out. And this was,
by the way, I think the first wave of casualties
from compliance. The reason the Pontiac ended up dying was
because General Motors was under enormous pressure to try to
figure out how to get these different brands Pontiac, Buick, Oldsmobile,
all their different divisions that had different engines. Each one
of those engines had to be certified independently by the

(02:38:40):
federal government as being in compliance with the stuff. That
costs a lot of money. So General Motors made the decision, well,
what we're going to do is corporatize. We're going to
just put Chevrolet built engines in pretty much everything that
we sell. They did this beginning in the eighties, and
that way they only had to certify the Chevrolet engine,
which they could put in a Pontiac and a Buick

(02:39:01):
and an Oldsmobile, which is what they did. But by
doing that, they just gutted any reason for having a
Pontiac or an Oldsmobile or even a Buick. It's all
you're getting is a Reskin Chevy with the identical drive train.

Speaker 2 (02:39:12):
Over and over again. I tell people, you know, the
real problem with industry and manufacturing and innovation in the
United States is the government. They are the biggest obstacle.
They are far more destructive of jobs and manufacturing than
any company abroad or any country abroad. All this stuff

(02:39:33):
about tariffs is a misdirection away from the true source
of the problem, which is government regulation. And even when
they're talking about the housing crisis, some people are talking
about how expensive houses have become because of government regulation,
but the government's not talking about doing anything of that.
They're talking about playing some financialization games in terms of

(02:39:53):
interest rates or subsidies or this or that, but they're
not going to do anything about the overregulation, all the
green mandates that are there. Trump will go to the
UN You'll say you're destroying your country with all this
green stuff and everything, But he won't take those regulations
off of cars or homes, so he can't have nice
things anymore.

Speaker 9 (02:40:13):
That's correct. We have become as a culture so habituated
to the government being involved in these things, and really,
I think that's that's the bone of the matter. Why
is the government involved in car design?

Speaker 2 (02:40:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (02:40:25):
You know, a good example of this is, you know
the whole I wrote an article about Ralph Nader a
couple of weeks ago and the core of air and
his allegations about the core of air being unsafe. This
doesn't matter, for the course, if the car is unsafe
and effective in some way, that can be handled in
tort claims. That's the way these things ought to be handled,
instead of this broad brush, one size fits all of
the federal government decreem. You know, you will have this

(02:40:47):
particular safety standard and it doesn't matter what you know,
what side effects that safety standard has, even if it
ends up being less safe. Good example of that being
in the mid seventies, they imposed a roof crush standard
on the you know, the vehicle had to be able
to support the weight of the vehicle if it got
turned upside down. So as a result of that, you've
got these gigantic A, B and C pillars. Those are

(02:41:09):
the things that support the roof. The A pillars at
the right base, shield be in the middle, and C
in the back instead of being you know, these these
thin and graceful things that you could easily look around
and you had this expansive view of the outside world
around you. Now you're essentially in a tank. You know,
I drive new bars all the time. He was like,
you're in a tank. You have essentially no visibility often

(02:41:30):
to the right and to the left because of this
enormous B pillar that's there to support the weight of
the vehicle if you roll it over. But the problem
is now when you pull out from a side street,
you're likely to get t boned because that thing is
created that blind spot. You didn't see the car, but
that was coming at you from the side.

Speaker 2 (02:41:47):
That's right. Yeah, I agree. You know, how did we
wind up still being able to keep convertibles with that?
I know I've got on my convertibles. I got some
really huge A pillars on them, but.

Speaker 9 (02:41:58):
Very cleverly, like you know with regard some of them,
you know, with Maza, the Miadi, as you know, they
built a roll bar into the backs of the seats. Basically,
that was one way that they did it, and some
of the manufacturers took that a step farther with pop
up roll bars. You know, Mercedes did that with some
of their highest vertibles, and they also managed to reinforce
the structure of the windshield in a way that made

(02:42:19):
it supportive of the vehicle if it were to roll over.
But you know, it's it's just the point is the
government's involvement in this stuff is just so insufferably obnoxious.
We are and to put a finer point on it,
you know, we talk about the government as if it's
sort of this entity out there, and I like to
I like to point out to be what you're really
talking about is a relative handful of micromanaging bureaucrats who

(02:42:42):
are the weavils within these regulatory bodies. You know, go
to the DOT or NITSA. How many people work there?
A few thousand. So you've got a few thousand people
in these regulatory bodies who are dictating to three hundred
and thirty million people, you know, the design of the
cars that they're allowed to have.

Speaker 2 (02:42:58):
Yeah, exactly right. Just you know, and we have spineless
politicians who let the bureaucrats rule over us and never
do anything to push back against them.

Speaker 9 (02:43:07):
And that's my design. You know, they've all fladed this.
They'll say Congress in particular, they'll say, well, I can't
do anything about it, because you know, the bureaucracy is responsible.

Speaker 2 (02:43:16):
That's right.

Speaker 9 (02:43:17):
You're the ones that offloaded their responsibility under the constitution
to legislate. You know, there's legislation and there's regulation, and
regulation has the force and effect of law. Yet it's
not voted for, which means there's accountability. You know, you
can't out, you can't vote out of office, an EPA apparatup.

Speaker 2 (02:43:34):
You know, they claim that they're not responsible for it,
even though, as you point out, they delegate this to them. Yes,
then you know something gets really bad and there's a
huge outroar uproar about that, then they can come in
and say, uh, okay, we're going to save you from
these bad guys, the regulators. So it's a very calculated
political ploy, isn't it. And I think we got do

(02:43:55):
we have a couple of comments questions for him.

Speaker 4 (02:43:58):
Good to talk to you here got citizen drag the
KAKA says Eric, would he'd like you to speak on
the fact that they're trying to pass legislation so you'll be
able to ensure a car that's over twenty five years old,
which is just utterly ridiculous because of course we know
that twenty five years ago all calls cars were death traps.
People were dying left and right. It's only within the
past few years that the cars have become safe at

(02:44:19):
all and people can drive him without living in constant fear.

Speaker 2 (02:44:22):
Yeah, and on that same line, Eric, California, just you know,
they wanted to it's missions. I think that they had
there and it was like a thirty five year moving average,
and they were trying to adjust that a little bit,
and they shut it down. The huge blow. It's Jay
Leno's law. Maybe you heard about that.

Speaker 9 (02:44:41):
Surely, surely punitive and vindictive. Yeah, Leno I think learned
a valuable lesson. You know, I think he, in his innocence,
might have believed that rational considerations and reasonable considerations might
cause the California legislature and Regulatory apparat to agree that, yeah,
you know, vehicles that are thirty five years old are
constitute a very small minority of the vehicles that are

(02:45:03):
in use as daily transportation, and so yeah, we'll exempt them,
as most states do, from having to go in from
emissions testing. This is purely punitive because they want to
push these cars off the road, and it's particularly egregious
in California because it's not even a matter of whether
you pass the tailpipe sniffer test. You know, when you
bring your car into the inspection station and they put

(02:45:25):
the probe in the tailplate and in most states, if
it passes that you pass and you get your sticker.
In California, doesn't matter whether you pass the tailpipe sniffer
test if any of the factory original emissions equipment has
been tampered with, altered, or removed. Now what that means.
You're talking about the thirty five year old car, or
how about a fifty year old car, and maybe the
original smog pump or EGR system had to be replaced

(02:45:48):
because it's a thirty five year old vehicle. Thirty five
year old, Well, what if there is no aftermarket replacement?
And more finally, in California, every aftermarket replacement has to
have a California Air Resources Board number, a certification that
it's been approved by CAR. So if it doesn't have that,
even if everything works, and even if the emissions are
with inspect they will still fail the vehicle on the

(02:46:08):
basis of failing the visual and not having the CARB
approved replacement part. So this is purely, purely punitive and vindictive,
and I do see this sort of thing expanding. You know,
they're going to start targeting cars and they're going to
say we can't permit vehicles that don't have the latest
advanced driver assistance technology to be on the road, you know,

(02:46:29):
because of the threat that they present and the people
are going to die. That's the sort of thing that
I foresee that they're going to start doing in the
next few years.

Speaker 2 (02:46:35):
Oh yeah, yeah. And it's kind of interesting too because
when I was doing modifications to Mamiada about seven years ago,
the companies I was getting the aftermarket parts on which
were taking those parts that you just mentioned and pitching
them completely. But they were based in California, and I thought,
you know, this is kind of interesting. They can't sell
their own product. Even at that time, many of their

(02:46:57):
things were not CARB compliant and they couldn't sell them,
and the two people who lived in California only to
people who lived outside of California. But it's getting much
much worse, you know.

Speaker 9 (02:47:07):
You know, an common thread that runs through all of
this is that there's no requirement that tangible harm be produced,
in other words, a victim. A really fine example of
this is the crucification of Volkswagen, and I revisited that
issue recently in a column. It's been about ten years
now since Volkswagen got raked over the coals for cheating
on federal emission certification tests. Yes, and you know, at

(02:47:31):
the time, and even to this day, I continue to ask, well,
who was hurt by any of this? All the the
only thing that happened was that the government was affronted.
You know, Volkswagen, like every other vehicle manufacturer, programmed its
vehicles to pass the test. That's the whole point. They
made it so they would pass that. And not only
this is an important point, not just the federal emission
certification test. Nobody ever disputed these vehicles when they were

(02:47:54):
bought and put into service in states where people had
to go to get emissions testing, you know, at the
state level, and get the tailpipe probe put in, they
all passed. The only kerfluffle happened after this independent lab
subjected the cars to an entirely different test that found
that under certain operating conditions, oh my gosh, the vehicle
will emit slightly higher, fractionally higher amounts of oxides of nitrogen,

(02:48:18):
which is a regulated emission for the EPA. And the
amount was minuscule. It was literally a fraction of a fraction,
in other words, something that was meaningless in terms of
whether it was hurting anybody, It didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (02:48:30):
It was so draconian. You and I talked about this
many times. It was so draconian that it was clear
that it wasn't about what they said it was about.
It was really about, as we said, getting rid of diesel.
I mean, they had criminal charges against executives. It was
something like four billion dollars if I remember correctly. It
was outrageous what they were doing. And we talked about that,
how you didn't see anything at all like that with

(02:48:51):
the Takata air bags that were blowing up spontaneously and
killing people, or with the pinto you know, and the
deliberate exclusion of some devices that would keep that explosion
from happening. So it was something that we've never seen before,
even when human lives were at stake, and there was
nobody that was harmed by any of this stuff.

Speaker 9 (02:49:13):
Well, the reason why they did it, though, it wasn't
just that it was diesel. It was that Volkswagen uniquely
was selling a lineup of very affordable diesels as recently
as twenty fifteen. You know, it's ten years ago, not
even You could have bought a brand new Volkswagen Jetto
with a TDI engine for about twenty two thousand dollars.
Now that old car had a seven hundred mile driving

(02:49:34):
range and would get fifty plus miles per gallon on
the highway and could probably be counted on to go
for three hundred thousand miles or more. Now, it's a
curious coincidence, isn't it that around the same time the
Volkswagen started getting raped over the coals over this emissions
cheating thing. That's when the big push for evs began
right around that time, around twenty fifteen. And I think

(02:49:55):
the reason that they went after Volkswagen was because they
could not abide the comparison. You know, on the one hand,
twenty two thousand dollars Jetta TDI, seven hundred mile range,
refill it in three minutes, keep it for twenty years,
drive it for three hundred thousand miles. On the other hand,
Tesla Model three, fifty thousand dollars car that goes maybe
two hundred and seventy miles, and it's going to need
a new fifteen thousand dollars battery after eight years, it

(02:50:18):
just would have been a harder sell. So they had
to go after Volkswagen. I think, you know, if Volkswagen
had continued making engines like that, other manufacturers would have
started to do the same. In fact, Chevy did chevrolety.
You could get a Malibu diesel for a little while there,
and other manufacturers would have done it because it's appealing.
I mean, I like the idea of a you know,
brand new twenty two thousand dollars car that gets fifty

(02:50:38):
something miles per gallon seven hundred miles. You know, diesel
is great. You know, it's a wonderful option for people
who want a durable, long legged, long lived vehicle. So
naturally they had to take that away from us.

Speaker 2 (02:50:50):
Yeah, checked all the boxes in terms of competition with
the electric vehicles, as you point out, is durability, reliability, affordability, range,
It was all there. I had to go, It really
had to go. They've got an agenda and they don't
want you to have something that you can afford. They
don't want you to have a long range because they
want to keep you on a short rope. Whether they're

(02:51:11):
smart city and they're probably geo fencing to make sure
that you can't buy anything outside of your approved city
and that type of thing.

Speaker 9 (02:51:19):
It's just amazingly it's a really important thing for people
to understand, and it's a difficult thing to understand because
the undercurrent of malevolence that's there is difficult for most
people to come to grips with. But it's almost axiomatic
that you cannot have an authoritarian system in which people
are still free to move about as they like on
their own initiative, in their own vehicle, unsupervised, unmonitored, and uncontrolled.

(02:51:43):
In order for them to impose a truly authoritarian system
on Americans, they have got to get control over transportation
and particularly personal transportation. And when you filter everything that's
going on through that, everything becomes comprehensible.

Speaker 2 (02:51:58):
That's right. I tell people all the time. The TSA
is a transportation security agency, right, it's not the airport
security agency. And they want to do that. They want
to eliminate the private vehicles so that everything becomes like
the airport. If you like that, certainly you'll be able
to keep that authoritarian government. If you like your authoritarian government,

(02:52:19):
you can keep it or they'll keep it for you.

Speaker 4 (02:52:23):
With something like geo fencing and the Tesla's they can
just simply section you off, say oh no, your car
just simply will not go there. You turn it that way. No,
we're going to autopilot you back into your safe zone.
We're not allowed over here. You're not allowed to go this.

Speaker 2 (02:52:36):
Far, and you won't have enough range really to get
out of there anyway. You know, it's fifteen minute city.

Speaker 9 (02:52:40):
That's about how creepy it is. And it's incredible, al Blase.
So many Americans are they think, even if they're aware
of it, they will say, oh, well, that would never happen.
They would never do that to us.

Speaker 2 (02:52:51):
Yeah, you know, Eric, about ten years ago, I went
to an auto show in Texas a start round up, Yeah,
a long star round up. It's a real big classic show,
and I think it's got to be an America made car,
and it's got to be they don't include the it's
got to be older than the Mustangs. Older than sixty four.

(02:53:13):
Sixty five is a cutoff, right, So they didn't want
to take it at that point. But there's a lot
of modification to them, and a lot of rat rods
that are out there, you know, really grungy cars that
people kept going and modified. I went around and I
talked to all these people and they were all different ages.
You know, people had cars they were seventeen or eighteen

(02:53:34):
years old that they had fixed up up to people
who retirees. And I asked them all, do you think
the government is going to make private cars go away
and gasoline cars go away? Oh? Yeah, they all said.
And to a man, they pretty much all said, including
like seventeen eight year olds, it will never happen in
my lifetime. It's like, man, the disconnect that was there

(02:53:54):
at that time was just that was the most You know,
the cars are interesting, but the most interesting thing was
how these people had lied to themselves about the government's
intentions and its abilities to rob them of their mobility.
It truly is amazing.

Speaker 9 (02:54:10):
The intentions were always there. I think the technology has
made it much more feasible to fast track things. They
wouldn't have been able to do what they have wanted
to do for fifty years, you know, back in the
eighties and nineties or even the early two thousands, but now,
particularly within the last ten years, they have now got
the ability to utterly and completely control vehicles to a

(02:54:33):
degree that most people would not believe until they have
to deal with it. I give various examples. One is
the illusion that you have in a modern car that
you're controlling how fast you drive.

Speaker 2 (02:54:44):
You're not.

Speaker 9 (02:54:44):
When you push down on the accelerator pedal, all you're
doing is feeding data to the computer. You're not connected
to the engine, to a cable system and a throttle
any longer. You're sending data to a computer, and the
computer then is telling the engine, okay, increase the RPMs
or to certain amount to give you the illusion that
you're the one who's controlling the car. I had a

(02:55:05):
Ford expedition a couple of weeks ago, and I was,
this is a big vehicle, big SUV, and I'm trying
to back the thing up in my driveway. Now I've
lived where I lived for twenty years. I know my driveway.
There's a there's a big bush at the one side
of my driveway, and I know, because again I've been
doing it for twenty years, exactly how far I can
back up before I hit that bush. But the Ford

(02:55:25):
slams on the brakes a couple of feet before I
get anywhere near the bush because again safety, but you know,
read dig down and to think about what that means.
The vehicle can decide that it's going to stop. Yeah,
you know, I curate your will, it's going to exercise control.
And bit by bit they're doing this. I had an
article look the other day about this speed limit assistance technology.

(02:55:46):
I love how they call it assistance technology, Like you
didn't know you were driving faster than the speed limit,
and now the car is, well, oh, thank you so much,
car for telling me that I'm driving faster than the
speed limit. And you know, first they try to shame you.
There's a little icon that pops up in the dashboard
that shows us a speed limit sign and it goes red.
You know, you're driving faster than the speed limit. And
sometimes there's a chime that companies it. And this is

(02:56:08):
weirdly standard now on all the vehicles. Why is that,
you know, it's not optional for people who need assistance.
If I need assistance, oh I love that, I'll buy
some assistance. No, they're making it standard because what they're
doing is in classic Fabian socialist style, slowly, bit by bit,
you know, getting people used to this stuff, and the
next step will be not just assisting you to know

(02:56:28):
that you're driving faster than the speed limit, It will
be preventing you from driving any faster than the speed
limit by using the drive by wire throttle, by using
the electrically controlled braking system to prevent you from doing it.
And what they're doing with that is making driving such
a it's no longer fun. You feel like you're guaranted,
you feel like you're a kindergartener again. And that's deliberately.

(02:56:51):
They want you to just say, you know, the heck
with it? Why why am I signing up for a
seven hundred dollars a month loan for the next six years.
I don't even control the car. The car nags me
and pesters me all the time, it tells me what
to do. The heck with it. I'm just going to
get my app on my phone and I'll know tap
it and I'll get.

Speaker 2 (02:57:05):
My pride that. Yeah. The comedian British comedian Ruin Atkinson,
who plays mister Bean. He was an engineer before he
became a comedian, and he's got a lot he loves cars,
and he's got a lot of very expensive hypercars. And
he said, well, you don't really drive these so much
as you manage them, because there's so much drive by

(02:57:27):
wire stuff in it. And I remember when Michael Hastings
was killed, and I think he was killed. I don't
think it was an accident, and he was He had
rented a late model Mercedes when that happened, and he
was he thought that people were after him with the
government because of what he was reporting on. He'd had
a lot of death threats from the government, and so

(02:57:48):
he went out to his car. His landlady said he
would go out to the car and he'd look underneath
it and all this other kind of stuff to see
if there was some kind of a bomb on it.
But they you know, when you have the when the
computer is able to control your acceleration, you're breaking, you're steering,
and all these other things, it's very, very easy to
assassinate somebody that way. And they have illustrated over and

(02:58:11):
over again at the black Hat conference in Vegas how
easy it is to hack one of these cars as well,
because they're also online, so everything is under computer control
and it's also online, so any bad actor, especially the government,
can jump into this thing and do whatever they wish.
They can shut you down or if they want to,
they can try to make it look like it was

(02:58:32):
an accident. This is the type of thing we've been
seeing for a long time. Yeah, you had your article
when you're talking about the insurance, when will people decide
to stop paying? And you talk about the fact that
you've got an antique car, you drive it three hundred
miles a year and stay within about a ten mile
radius of your home in rural Virginia, and why should

(02:58:53):
you have to pay insurance for that? That should be
your decision for that. But of course it is this
corporate government fascism that we see over and over again
where they force you to buy their product, isn't.

Speaker 9 (02:59:04):
It It is? And now they are using insurance to
price people out of vehicle ownership. Yeah, everybody you probably
had this happen to you as well, has had their
premium increase by on average twenty five to thirty percent
and in some cases fifty percent or more for absolutely
no reason having to do with anything they did in
terms of having an accident, filing a claim anything, or

(02:59:25):
even a speeding ticket. You get the notice in the mail,
and all of a sudden, your premium is, you know,
double what it was the year prior. Why because they can,
you know, because they don't have the option to say no.
Imagine what a cup of coffee would cost if the
government said you have to go to Starbucks, you canify
a cup of Starbucks coffee at least once a week.
You know, we'd be paying ten dollars for a cup

(02:59:46):
of coffee at Starbucks.

Speaker 2 (02:59:47):
That's exactly where we are, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (02:59:49):
That's essentially where we are with this. And I you know,
we are getting to a point. You know, I have
my ear to the ground about things like this, and
it's also my own personal opinion that everybody's feeling pinched
because of the everything.

Speaker 2 (03:00:00):
Everything that's going up, and they don't include it and
the evaluation of inflation either do that.

Speaker 9 (03:00:06):
And so you know, when it comes down to a
choice between you know, obeying the law and handing a
check over to these insurance mobsters for a large sum
of money that could be used to pay your electric bill,
or you know, for your family, what's the choice. Well,
you know, probably a lot of people are going to say,
you know what, I'm going to buy food for my
family instead of sending this check to all State or Geicoe.

Speaker 2 (03:00:26):
Yeah, and so what.

Speaker 9 (03:00:28):
You know, I mean, the the illegal aliens can with
impunity because they you know, they can't. They can't get
blood out of a stone, can they. You know, they
don't have any access disease. So and I'm not I'm
really I'm not. I'm not disparaging people who are in
that category because I understand people are trying to improve
their lives and all of that. Just trying to make
the point that there are no consequences for those people.
You know, if if they want to go out and

(03:00:49):
drive without insurance and hit you and wreck you, they'll
walk away from it and the state will do nothing
about it. But you and I we don't hit anybody,
you know, we haven't caused any problems for anybody. But
we didn't handle the money to the monsters. They'll cancel
your driver's license, they'll cancel your registration, and if they
catch you driving, they'll know impound your vehicle and potentially
arrest you for it.

Speaker 2 (03:01:09):
That's absolutely right. Yeah, you're absolutely right. That's the way
it works. It's a two tier standard already in many
different areas that we've got in this country. Well, well
at a time, it is always great having you on Eric,
anything you want to tell us about what's happening with
your website.

Speaker 9 (03:01:23):
Oh, well, nothing more than what's on there. You know.
I posted an article this morning. It's more of a
thought piece about how we're all kind of in this
bad marriage situation in this country. You know.

Speaker 2 (03:01:33):
Yeah, Trump is the guy who has bad marriages. He
specializes in that, doesn't he Well.

Speaker 9 (03:01:38):
Isn't it interesting that, for the most part, most people
will say, okay, you know, if you have a situation
where a couple just can't work it out, they're at odds.
You know, nobody would say, well, they have to stay
married and be miserable for the rest of their lives.
People accept that sometimes marriages don't work, and you know,
there's a divorce. It's not a happy thing. But it's
better than forcing people who can't live together to live together. Somehow,

(03:02:00):
that seems to be off the table.

Speaker 2 (03:02:01):
Why is that?

Speaker 9 (03:02:02):
You know, we're at a point in this country would
be left right and just people who want to be
left alone chiefly versus those won't leave people alone. Why
can't we just figure out a way to peacefully separate
ourselves and that way end this fractiousness, you know, and
just instead of going to blows with each other, and
that includes blows at the ballot box and trying to
constantly figure out a way to elect our guy to

(03:02:23):
impose our will on the other side, how about we
just figure out a way to go our own way
and live and let live. The problem is that probably
half the country doesn't want to live and let live.

Speaker 2 (03:02:33):
Yeah, I've talked about that. You know, if you look
at the Scandinavian countries, they have split apart and joined
together in various combinations many times, and you know they
would peacefully join together, peacefully break apart, and there was
never a war over it. We don't have a government
like that.

Speaker 9 (03:02:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (03:02:48):
When Marjorie Taylor Green started talking about having a national divorce,
I said, yeah, the problem is is that we're married
to an abusive spouse who once he finds out that
we want to divorce him, he's going to come kill us.
You know.

Speaker 9 (03:03:00):
Ye that I recurrently use because I think it's very
pithy and it says it all. And it's a picture
of Abraham Lincoln and the caption reads, if you try
to leave me, I'll kill you.

Speaker 2 (03:03:10):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (03:03:12):
You know.

Speaker 2 (03:03:12):
The ultimate abuse of the household. That's exactly the case,
especially in the country that was formed over the right
of secession and self government. That was the basis of
America's existence from the very beginning. How could you deny
that to somebody. I'm always all about secession, and I
would say, if at first you don't seceed, try try again.

Speaker 9 (03:03:35):
Maybe my motto for everybody, it's a safety valve and
everybody should on board with that.

Speaker 2 (03:03:39):
And of course there is one other thing we can do.
And the people at tenth Amendment have talked center I
have talked about this a lot. There is another avenue
of this, and that is nullification. That is kind of
the middle point. You know, we say, well, we're just
going tognore what you have to say. So there is
nullification and non commandeering and short of and that effectively

(03:04:01):
can allow you to seceed issue by issue if you've
got people at the state level who have the backbone
to do that type of thing. And that's the big
if we don't because they're all on the take. I
don't think that we're going to get this country back
until we have a catastrophic economic system that's going to
destroy the ability of our government. With us dollars or
reserve currency to just print money out of thin air

(03:04:25):
until that disappears, We're going to have the same type
of situation.

Speaker 9 (03:04:28):
We do have one power under our control, and it
is to simply not participate, to opt out our own.
You know, with regard to new cars, if you don't
want to be data mined and controlled, well, don't buy
a new car. You know, keep the older car that
you have, get an older car, fix it up, you
know during the pandemic. Don't wear a mask, don't pullo,
don't comply. If enough of us as individuals, you don't

(03:04:49):
have to join an organization, just a bide b It's
in your own moral compass. And you know, if this
is wrong, I don't like this. I'm not going along
with it. I'm just taking my stand. I'm not going
to be a cattle and go along moving with the
herd just because that's what the herd does.

Speaker 2 (03:05:08):
Yeah, I'd been thrown out of so many different places
and restaurants in Texas. I had to move to Tennessee
because I had promised these people I would never be
back because of the way that they insisted that I
wear a mask, and so I left. Then I said,
and I won't be back, and I kept my word
by moving to the state. That's the only way I
could do it. It's always great to have you on Eric,
Eric petersautos dot com. Folks had great sight for liberty

(03:05:31):
and mobility and a little bit of nostalgia now as well,
because that's how the only way we're going to be
able to keep our mobility is with classic cars. Thank you, Eric,
always great to.

Speaker 9 (03:05:42):
Talk to you.

Speaker 4 (03:05:42):
Thank you, Travis, Thank you Eric. Always a pleasure speaking
to you. And before we go, ACSA B, thank you
so much for that. We really do appreciate it. Says
so awesome DK and family. Thanks for everything. I wish
I could do so much more.

Speaker 2 (03:05:55):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 4 (03:05:55):
I appreciate you so much. ACSAP, thank you. It really
is because of your support that we're able to continue
this and we really cannot thank you enough.

Speaker 2 (03:06:01):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (03:06:02):
Folks, Thank you all very much. God bless you all
have a wonderful rest of your day.

Speaker 2 (03:06:06):
Yes, the common man, they created common Core that dumb
down our children. They created common past, track and control us,

(03:06:27):
their Commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing
and the communist future they see the common man as simple,
unsophisticated ordinary. But each of us has worth and dignity
created in the image of God. That is what we
have in common. That is what they want to take away.

(03:06:50):
Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire
to know everything about us, while they hide everything from us.
It's time to turn that around and expose what they
want to hide. Please share the information and links you'll
find at the Davidnightshow dot com. Thank you for listening,

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