Wed Episode #2141: Blackmailed Government: Trump, Mossad & the GOP’s Epstein Panic

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a
revolutionary act.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's the David Knight Show.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
As the clock strikes thirteen, it's Wednesday, the nineteenth of November.
You have our lord, twenty twenty five. Well, yesterday there
was a big vote, what people have been looking for
for quite a while. And after they got the vote
pushed through to have a vote, then it was overwhelmingly
nearly unanimous. Only one person did not vote to release

(01:05):
the Epstein documents. What would be the point of that
and why did Trump flip flop on all this. We'll
take a look at that, We'll take a look at
the reactions that are there, and we'll also take a
look at the economic at the plans that the Trump
administration has for fixing air traffic control, healthcare, and unaffordable mortgages.

(01:27):
Just joking, there is no plan. There's nobody coming to help.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
You're on your own.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
We'll be right back, stay with us.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Well, it was a huge fight to get past the
gatekeeper house speaker Johnson. And once they got past that
and just narrowly squeaked past that, then they finally got
to the vote, and people said, well, I think there's
gonna be a lot of people going to be crossing
the aisle to vote with this, and it turned out

(02:30):
it was four hundred and twenty seven to one. One guy.
I would not want to be him when he runs
for reelection. I don't know what's the matter with him.
Clay Higgins, he's from Louisiana, another one of these crazy
Louisiana politicians.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
No offense if you're in Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I know you probably didn't vote for these people, but still,
how did we get Bill Cassidy, this handmaid for Big Pharma,
Mike Johnson, a handmaid for Trump and anybody empower and
the sky. Clay Higgins, who to keep the Epstein documents quiet? Well,
this is what Massey had to say about it.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
I want to thank the generosity of Jim McGovern, Representative
McGovern for granting us this time. I'm embarrassed for my
own party today. I'm embarrassed we withhold withheld signing in
swearing in a duly representative of the people for forty
nine days just to avoid this vote that's finally going

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to happen today. I'm embarrassed at my own party isn't
going to yield me. Time to debate this, even though
they say they support it and I authored it. They
don't even want to yield me time to debate this
during the bill debate.

Speaker 6 (03:44):
But I'm thankful.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Let me tell you who I'm thankful to. These three
brave women, Marjorie Taylor Green, Nancy Mason, Lauren Bober. They
have been threatened. They have been intimidated physically, politically. It's
disgusting and I the far left. They have been intimidated

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by people in our own party, and for what say
it Trump seeking justice for these victims. So my hats off.
I congratulate them for standing strong. I've always wondered where
were the Republican men during this battle. We've taken five months,
These three women and I have had to drag our
party to this floor today to even vote on this.

(04:29):
And Roe Kanna is the most to be thanked here.
In an extraordinary display bipartisanship, he did not hesitate when
I asked if we wanted to bring this bill to
the floor together, if he would stand in the trenches
with me, he said yes.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
And so the and bought armies that are on social
media attacking Thomas Massy. Oh he's a grand standard. Oh,
he's another list Chanel. No, he's not. As a matter
of fact, I didn't put him. It's a great clip
that somebody posted up. It's on Twitter where it goes
back to that encounter that he had with Jamal I
can't remember the name of the guy. He was rabidly,

(05:07):
you know, pushing gun control and it was a great
shouting match debate if you will, but more of a
shouting match in the halls of Congress. And Massey is
very strongly for the Constitution for liberty and other issues
like that, not Liz Cheney, the Cheney sound. But he
also had something to say about Mike Johnson as Bill.

Speaker 7 (05:30):
He says that it was poorly drafted, does not protect
the victims as well.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
What do you say to him, Well, he's trying to
he's trying to say that rich and powerful men who
were on the plane to Epstein Island are now victims,
that they would be victims because their names would get disclosed.
Like look at his PowerPoint presentation today. He's creating a
new category of victims. So I think that's how a
Christian man can stand up there and say a lie

(05:57):
like that is he's got something in the back of
his head. That makes it okay, But he if he
had real concerns, he could have introduced his own legislation.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Look, that's right.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, Mike Johnson is just unbelievable. Anybody who is a
Christian and identifies as a Republican ough to be embarrassed
because of Mike Johnson. Have to put a caveat there, Okay,
but Mike Johnson is not really what I consider when
I talk about a conservative or a Christian. And then

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he was asked about the personal attacks on him by
Trump because it wasn't just Marjorie Taylor Green. It wasn't
just Lauren Bobert being summoned in and brow beaten by
all of these people in the Trump administration, FBI, Department
of Justice, and the Attorney General and the President all
at once intimidating her and she was not intimidated.

Speaker 7 (06:54):
Is just a personal nature of this. I mean again,
he goes after you, your wife caused Margie Taylor Green
a trader.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Clear, he went after my late wife and my current wife.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 5 (07:06):
I think it's a new low for him, But again
we laughed it off. It's more to his detriment than mine.
That he puts something like that out, but I think
it was beyond the pale.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Absolutely, yeah. And then that's the thing about he just
keeps hitting.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Newer and newer, lower and lower hits with all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
And so one of the things I'm gonna talk about
once we get finished with this is the fact that
it's another week, another terrorist. We got Mohammed Ben Salomon,
the clown Prince, as Joels Linchley calls him. He's now
fetting another Muslim terrorists, another head chopper that is out there.
Of course, NBS didn't just stop at chopping heads. He

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chopped a koshogi into all these little tiny pieces there.
And Trump is fine, he says, well, a lot of
people didn't like that guy. You know, things happened whatever.
How many times do how many different data points do
we need for Donald Trump to figure out what kind
of a person, what kind of a quote unquote leader

(08:12):
he is. Congress overwhelmingly votes to release the Epstein file,
sending the bill to Trump. It was Clay Higgins at
Louisiana the only one in the House that opposed the measure.
As soon as it ed to the Senate, where Chuck
Schumer requested unanimous consent to pass the bill. Not a

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senator objected, so it was unanimous in the Senate, and
it was nearly unanimous except for one person in the House.
And again, wouldn't you think that would be the case.
Aren't these people concerned about optics. Everybody understands how this
looks if they try to hide this stuff, except for
Trump and Mike Johnson and Clay Higgins. I guess, you know,

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why would they object. That's a lose lose proposition. So
it's almost like Trump is being blackmailed by Masada or something.
As a matter of fact, when we look at this
and whether or not the information is going to come out,
I think that we're going to see that they put
in a clause there, and that clause is going to

(09:17):
keep any information from being released. And it is very
interesting to see why that clause is there, and we'll
talk about that coming up here. It's time to put
the political agenda and the party affiliations on the side,
said inn Epstein survivor Haley Rubson. This is a human issue.
This is about children. But you know what Trump is
going to do now is he's going to play the

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partisan card and the other aspect of this, A lot
of people say, why is Trump. You know, he was
for releasing the files, then he was against releasing the files.
Now he's for releasing the files again. Is it that
they've sanitized it of all Republican stuff and he's going
to focus on the partisan issue. That may be it,
But I think it definitely the fact that he didn't

(10:02):
want to be on the losing side of the vote.
I mean, he's been on the losing side of the
issue and blind and deaf to that now for several months.
But I think he finally realized that the thing that
mattered to him was if the Senate was going to
unanimously by voice vote push this through, and if he's
going to lose in the House four twenty seven to one.

(10:26):
I think Trump does not want to be on the
losing side. One thing he's got to have, and that
is clout, and he thinks that his clout comes from
clobbering people. So Mike Johnson sought to spend his reverse
on the bill as they push for transparency. He told
GOP lawmakers to vote their conscience and closed door meetings,

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and he accused the proponents of the bill of rejecting
his offer of talks to tweak the measure, negotiations that
they mocked as another obstruction tactic. The bill demands that
the Justice Department release is case fyles on Epstein. A
separate investigation conducted by the houseoversyche Committee has released thousands
of pages of emales and other documents from Epstein's estate,

(11:08):
showing connections to global leaders, Wall Street powerbrokers, influential political
figures in Trump himself. You know, the usual group of victims,
as Trump would put it after campaigning at sorry, as
Mike Johnson put it, right after campaigning on a vow
to release all the Epstein files. Trump dramatically changed his

(11:29):
tune last spring when Attorney General Bondi reportedly told him
that his name featured prominently in the documents. Well, do
we really need to know that? I mean, he was
obviously publicly partying with a guy for fifteen years of
best friends for fifteen years and wingman. The stonewalling campaign

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sparked widespread discontent within the MAGA movement. Trump unsuccessfully sought
to keep a lid on the rebellion for months, and
Johnson assisted by blocking efforts to force a vote on
the measure again, they were losers, Bigley, all right, loser,
that's h They should all.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Holding up that hands on.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
This does permit the Justice Department withhold materials in an
ongoing investigation, a loophole that could prove significant now that
Trump has also ordered a new probe of Democrats that
he claims had ties to Epstein. So there you go
if he says, but actually there's another aspect of it
as well, that they can hide this information. They're not

(12:34):
done yet, but he could if he starts investigation. He
could investigate of course Democrats. And if it's an active investigation,
we can't allow that to be released. See how that works.
So it can be both partisan and a cover up
at the same time. Even as Johnson prepared for a
massive vote in favor of the bill, he said the
Senate should fix the measure, but he didn't specify how

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mass encountered. He wouldn't accept any further manipulation, and he
warned the Senate before it went to them not to
mess with it.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
That is wrong.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
Do not let the Senate muck this bill up. And
if you are, if you're a party to that in
the Senate, you are part of this cover up that
we are trying to expose. I am sorry if one
of your billionaireed owners is going to get embarrassed because
he went to Rape Island, that is what they have coming.

(13:31):
In fact, they need to be on the other side
of bars a lot of them. Some of them will
be embarrassed, but some of them need to go to
prison and the survivors into that. So how will we
know if this bill has been successful. We will know
when there are men rich men and handcuffs being purp
walked to the jail. And until then this is still

(13:53):
a cover up.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
So in other words, it's not going to see seed.
You're not going to see the richmond and handcuffing pur
blalked to jail. You're also not going to have any
reform of the intelligence agencies. And I think that is
the most important thing, that is the wellspring of all
this kind of evil, And so I want to get

(14:18):
onto that the national security angle that is there. They
have basically admitted the fact that this is really the
intelligence agencies, like alex Acosta said the beginning, remember when
he was in his confirmation hearings for Department of Labor
head And again, why would Trump pick this guy. Did

(14:41):
he have any experience in labor issues? No, as an employer, No,
as a union guy.

Speaker 8 (14:48):
No.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
He had nothing that you had seen in his resume
that would recommend him for the Department of Labor. And
of course there's nothing a constitution that there's nothing in
the Constitution's resume that would allow a department labor either.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Let's just say that.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
But anyway, typically you would have somebody that there's some
rationalist why you put this guy in this unconstitutional department,
But there was nothing, no connection. It's been a lawyer
all of his life. He is one of ninety two
federal prosecutors. And he gave the sweetheart deal to Epstein.
And when he was asked about it, he said, well,
I was told he was intelligence and I was told

(15:22):
to lay off. Well, Matcy had more about the reactions.
He said, these documents need to be released, and don't
try to redact them because now we've got a law,
and that would be illegal.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
He said, Actually, they have to explain to Congress, and
we have a list of reasons they can't use to
redact material. And so, for instance, there's been a lot
of discussion about trying to protect men who might be embarrassed.
Let's say, because they went to the island, they can't
redact it for those reasons, and if they do, they're
breaking the law because this is passing the House, the

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Senate and being signed by the President.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
How long.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
That Marjorie answered that question perfectly, Well, we're done with We're.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Just congressman mess. Do you think you'll see your colleagues arrested?

Speaker 6 (16:14):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
And then he had this to say about Trump when
he was asked.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Well, he got tired of me winning, so he joined
our side. I have no animosity toward him.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I regret that it.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Got personal for some folks, but it never has for me.
It's always been about the survivors.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
What do you think he's a reversal?

Speaker 7 (16:34):
I mean after months of.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Fighting, you well, the speaker, the Attorney General, the FBI director,
the president, and the Vice president could have saved us
all this time and embarrassment, frankly for our own party. Uh,
if they'd just done the right thing four months ago.

Speaker 9 (16:50):
Do you want to believe.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Him, Congressman, I mean, for weeks he's been pushing against this.
Now he said he supports it.

Speaker 8 (16:54):
You buy it.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
He's only supporting it because President told him to support it.

Speaker 6 (16:59):
And so that's what Mike Johnson does. I'm talking about Trump.

Speaker 10 (17:01):
You buy President Trump saying that he wants the House.

Speaker 7 (17:04):
To pass this redisure.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Well, I'm concerned that now he's opening a flurry of investigations,
and I believe they may be trying to use those
investigations as a predicate for not releasing the files.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
And that's my concern. Think they'll try to block it, Well.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
They will.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
I'm afraid they're going to try to use a provision
of the law that allows you not to release these
materials if they're the subject of an ongoing investigation and
would harm in the release of which would harm the ongoing.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
And so what do you think this is all about?

Speaker 6 (17:36):
For President Trump?

Speaker 11 (17:37):
First, he was blocking this, pushing Republicans to block this
for so long.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Now he's reversing course, and he has the power to
release the full files anyway.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
That's pretty simple.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
For four months, he thought the best thing for him
was to keep the files secret, and somebody convinced him
that the best thing for him.

Speaker 12 (17:53):
Was to release the files.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
If they're serious about it, they should release them right now.

Speaker 13 (18:01):
Why do you think he is working so hard not
to get them relies for so many times.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
What do you think the real reason is?

Speaker 5 (18:08):
These files implicated billionaires and friends of him and m
of his and the political donors that he's trying to protect.
And Efstein also had close ties to our own intelligence
agencies and Israel's intelligence agencies. That's why there's so much
effort in trying to stop this. And I do believe

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they'll try to stop it somewhere else and that's going
to backfire on them too.

Speaker 14 (18:34):
So the President saying he'll sign it, you don't you'll
buy that?

Speaker 5 (18:37):
No, I think he'll sign it. I want to be
there at the signing party. I've never seen somebody not
get invited to sign.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Their own bill.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
But what't you saying?

Speaker 7 (18:45):
Just a personal nature of close after you your wife.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Caused Marjorie Taylor Green, He went after my late wife
and my current wife.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
And what do you think about that? I think it's
a new love for.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Already played that part of it and another quip. But yeah,
as a matter of fact, you know they've got a
couple of different ways to stop this. One of them
is to open up investigation. Of course, open up investigation
to democrats, and then you can keep it hidden. The
other course is the intelligence agency angle, and that's the

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key one. He almost talked about it, but not quite.
And so that's why this is really not going to happen,
because that is at the essence of this. I don't
think that even Trump is that tone deaf and that
blind to the optics of what's going on, that he
would stretch this thing out as long as he did,

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everybody would see that he was for it, then he
was against it, and I's for it, and so forth.
I don't think he would have done that if he
wasn't covering up for Asad and the CIA's understanding, the
CIA is the real government here, and I'm going to
explain that to you when we come back after the break.
I'm going to talk about where he's going to go
with the partisan stuff, but also the the bill itself

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has got a carve out there if the intelligence agencies
don't like it. So if they start the prosecution and
they say we've got we've got an active investigation, so
you can't talk about this, they can shut it down
that way. But they can also shut it down with
the national security special password that they have there.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Before we take a break.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
I'm going to cover the comments that are here, the
five Tyrant seventeen seventy six. I still say this is
all just more political theater that doesn't come from any
of this. That's true if you're looking at this from
the standpoint that we're going to get more information or
documents about what we already know is true. I mean,
I look at this as very much like the commissions
that were done to investigate whatever, whether it's ben Ghazi

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or the commissions in the UK to investigate the COVID nonsense,
which are always a cover up, you know, just like
the Warrant Commission was a cover up of the JFK assassination.
Missions are always a cover up. They're an opportunity, a
career making opportunity for grand standing for the people who
run these things. I mean, you go back to the
Warrant Commission. Arl Inspector became Senator for life because of

(21:12):
his magic pollet invention that he came up with and
he solved that. So it's like, you're good, you're our guy.
We're going to keep you there. We can use somebody
like you. But I think that the real issue, which
is what's going to come out of this is the
politics that are involved. And I think that that is

(21:33):
really consequential. I mean, this might have started to drive
a little bit of a wedge into the mind of
the MAGA people who mindlessly support Trump regardless of what
the man does. And this is the significance of it.
What it is doing is showing his character. Yet again,

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we've seen it over and over and over again. But
there's medications that perhaps this is the first time that
many people and MAGA will admit to the obvious and
not indulge in double think. You know, when you talk
about TDS, you know, Trump derangement syndrome as I like
to talk about, I talk about it as Trump delusion,

(22:14):
and the other D is Trump double think. You may
hate the lockdown and the masks, and you may hate
the vaccine all that, but the guy who did it,
the guy who boasts about it, even it's not even
that they don't understand the mechanism of how the federal
government gets around the Tenth Amendment by showering money, by
bribing and blackmailing people, but even brags about it, and

(22:37):
they are capable of doublethink. And so TDS is really
Trump doublethink syndrome, which we see happening with these people,
and perhaps, and I'm thinking that if anything comes of this,
it'll be that. But we already know Epstein, and we
already know that he's connected with Massad, and we already
know that Massad controls Trump and the CIA controls Trump,

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and these criminal agencies are working together all the time.
So if we can get some more exposure of that,
that'll be worthwhile. So Travis has joined us. Now, good
to see Travis. How's it going. What do you think
about all this stuff?

Speaker 6 (23:15):
It's going well.

Speaker 15 (23:16):
And it's just it's more the same, you know, It's
just this is business as usual, is the exact same
thing we've been dealing with more of the past year now.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
And it is interesting to see how Trump maneuvers this.
You know, first of all, they've got a couple of
escape clauses in this thing to keep any real information
from coming out there. But then publicly he reverses himself.
And this is the second time in a week that
we've seen him do massive reversals. It hasn't gotten much exposure.
I've mentioned it briefly on this show, but the fact

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that he was adamant against all economic reality that tariffs
do not raise prices. Of course they do their attacks.
They're either going to raise the price or the business
is going to go out of business. So he's either
going to drive people out of business or they're going
to raise the price. It's just like minimum wage or something.
And Republicans before Trump used to always understand that minimum

(24:06):
wage increases doesn't make anybody wealthier. What it does it
fuels inflation, raises costs and price And if you tax
corporations any way that you tax corporations, whether there's an
income tax or whether there's a tariff, those taxes are
always passed on or the business will pass on and
pass away. So this week what he did was he's

(24:29):
been telling everybody tariffs don't raise prices, and he's been
telling everybody that food is cheaper, right, so what do
you do this week? He said, well, I've got to
lower the price of food, so I'm going to lower
the tariffs. So right there, he admitted he was lying
about the inflation of food, and he admitted that the
terrorifts were increasing the price of all this stuff. So
he's not having a good week. If anybody is keeping

(24:50):
track of this, but I guess they really don't keep
track of it.

Speaker 15 (24:54):
Yeah, when nobody is paying attention, when nobody knows what's
actually going on, it doesn't matter what you say, It
doesn't matter what you do. You can say one thing
and do the exact opposite in just so long is
they only listen to what you say, they'll believe you.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
And that's the problem, is that they are tracking what's
going on, but they won't make the connection ever to Trump.
It truly is amazing. Go ahead and cover the rest
of these comments here we.

Speaker 15 (25:18):
Have Peasidovante seventeen seventy six says Trump will never allow
any actually damaging info on himself to be made public.

Speaker 6 (25:25):
That's right, which I agree with that, and.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
The damaging information about Trump has already been made public.
It's that they're parading around with this guy for the
longest time. I mean, you're not necessarily going to find
any documents that said, you know, I killed her with
the with a knife and you know, with Colonel Mustard
in the library or something. But you know, we got
a clue. We don't need to actually have the signed confession.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yes I did it.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Here it is, you know, we don't have to have
the email but actually confesses to all of it. We
have seen it and we can piece it together. But
it's the way that he's going to use this. I
think it's interesting to watch how this weasel is going
to try to weasel out of it. I think he
probably will, but it has awakened a lot of people
in Maga.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I think.

Speaker 15 (26:13):
I hope, so we can hope at least. Niburu twenty
twenty nine says Bondi Battel have used the shutdown time
to sanitize the Epstein files to Goligila Trump's satisfaction, and
now the rewrites can be released for the sheeple's distraction.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
You know, the interesting thing is they may sanitize the files,
but their cover up has dirtied them so much they
can never sanitize their public image again. The public image
of Bondie, of Cash Battel, of Dan Bongino, I don't
think can be sanitized at this point. I think that's
an interesting outcome.

Speaker 15 (26:49):
Yeah, now they've completely tied themselves to Donald Trump. Yeah,
a second term president who is going to be on
the way out. They've done everything they can to maintain
his image, to do his big despite the fact that
it's the exact opposite of what the American people want.
They cannot function in any other administration. As soon as
Donald Trump is gone, these people are out the door.

(27:11):
Everyone is already sick of them. I think Cash Bettel's
tenure is probably record time for someone being the most
hated FBI director. Everyone is looking at him saying, something
is wrong here, this is your fault. And it stops there.
It stops with Bondi and Patel and anyone else this touches.
But for some reason, the guy at the center of
it all, Donald Trump, is free and clear to do

(27:33):
whatever he wants.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
We're sick of the sickophants. And you know, that's that
trio there. And you can also throw in Mike Johnson
as well. It is absolutely sickening to watch these people
who will just do anything no matter. They think that
we don't see it, but we do, We absolutely do.

Speaker 15 (27:52):
Mike Johnson benefits a little bit from the fact that
he's such a non entity. He barely exists as a person.
You know, he's there, but he's kind of just like
the guy in the background. He's the guy that would
be extra number two hundred and fifty in a scene.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
Cash Bettel, you know, he's very unique looking.

Speaker 15 (28:10):
He's kind of it's very different Pam Bondy woman, so
that gives her a little bit of something. Mike Johnson,
he's just a stereotypical bureaucrat. You couldn't I couldn't pick
him out of a crowd if I were to walk
past him, despite the fact I know exactly what he
looks like. I would breeze past Mike Johnson and never
once think it was him.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
But if he went past the Cash ho tell he's like,
what's what's he looking at?

Speaker 2 (28:32):
What's up with the eyes.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Which looks like a possum that you shine a flashlight
into in the middle of the night.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
Stunned at all times, and said.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Unbelievably corrupt when you look at what he's doing with
the Jets and his girlfriend and the security details for her,
all the rest of the stuff. Just another example of
how these people have got a place at the table
and they are going to feast and uh wallow in
this corruption. That's what I'm seeing with the Trump administration.
So that's why I think it's important talk about this.

(29:00):
We need to understand the nature and the character of
these people.

Speaker 15 (29:04):
Yeah, I keep saying Cash Betel is as crooked as
his nose Zonovante seventeen seventy six, as Mike Johnson a Christian.

Speaker 6 (29:14):
Lol.

Speaker 15 (29:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's about my sentiments on it. To
fight tire at seventeen seventy six. Massey isn't on our
side because if he was, he would have told the
truth about the warp speed poison. He's never once come
out against it, and that's something.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Well, I agree, I agree about that, But he is
more on our side on some other key issues. As
a farmer himself, he has come out to say that,
you know, he's got the Prime Act, which says that
if you raise the cattle yourself, you should be able
to butcher it yourself and to get around the USDA.

(29:49):
So he has some very good legislation on some very
key issues. I'd put him in the same category as
Ran Paul, who I think was horrific on on the
warp speed stuff and still is. I Ran Paul is
the guy who is still trying to sell this lab
leak theory, which is a big cover up. Massy has

(30:10):
just kind of set it out. However, on some other
issues he's been very good, and I can't say that
about too many people in Congress, and he's willing to
take on Trump. So those are some important things. He's
gonna take on Trump. He's going to take on the
USDA to fight for our food freedom. Those are some
important things. So we'll applaud him on the issues. As

(30:31):
I said before, let's not have any of this stuff
where we create some you know, magic holy person who
is up there. If you start doing that and you
don't realize that there's flaws with everybody, then you're gonna
wind up worshiping him like Maga worships Trump. Take a
look at Massey, understand that he's wrong on some issues,

(30:54):
but not many of them, and when he's taking the
lead on some very important should support him on that.
That's the way I think we had to look at this.
No man is going to be perfect, especially in politics.
You're gonna have your disagreements with people, and of course
you know that that is a huge, huge issue. But
I think that he can still be on our side

(31:15):
on a lot of different issues. And I think it's
also important to see that he's got the integrity to
stand up to Trump. He is not part of the
hive mind, which is really, really unusual in Washington, highly unusual.

Speaker 14 (31:27):
Someone had to comment the other day, what were you saying?
So someone had to comment the other day that I
bought summed that up pretty well, said good or bad
politicians is always an issue by issue matter.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
That's right, that's right, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
You know, it's kind of the thing you know, we
talk about outlets, you know, news outlets, you know, don't
just take in everything the news outlet says. They can
occasionally make a mistake or something right, and but if
they are misleading you on issue after issue after issue,
at some point you got to say, well, you know,

(32:06):
I used to look at this site covering conservative issues
and I including that WND, Breitbart and of course info Wars.
But you know, they've become such cheerleaders for Trump that
they're no longer honest brokers of what they're doing. And
so you can have an honest disagreement with somebody, or
you can have a blind spot, you know, his blind
spot to the tech stuff. You know, look, I didn't

(32:30):
understand about vaccines all my life either, and he's coming
from a tech background and so a lot of that
stuff maybe, you know, just kind of that kind of mentality.
I don't know, I'm not making excuses for him. He's
wrong on that issue. I'm just saying he's right on
many other things, and it is issue by issue, and
so I think it's very important to stand up against

(32:53):
this high mind that has taken over Washington, and I'm
glad that he did that.

Speaker 15 (33:01):
Go ahead, Yeah, it's im board to remember that not
everyone believes the exact same thing you do. Yeah, you
can be right and they can be wrong, but they
can be honestly wrong. They may just actually believe something different.
They may not be trying to scam you. And perhaps
that is Thomas Massey Charlie hs Hays interesting that speaker

(33:23):
Mouse just rose up out of the swamp to become speaker.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
I wonder who orchestrated that.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I said that at a time, I thought, you know,
remember they went through several different votes and they couldn't
figure out who was going to be the speaker, and
then all of a sudden, this guy you've never heard
of before comes out. It's like, how did that happen? Well,
he found out right away when he started reversing everything
that he'd always said as a member of Congress. Once
he became Speaker of the House. He started jumping on
right away. Yeah, we're going to send more money to Ukraine,

(33:49):
more money to Israel for their wars and all the rest.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
It's like, uh oh, yeah, he is a swamp creature.
Now we know how this guy became Speaker of the House. Absolutely.

Speaker 15 (33:57):
Yeah, you ain't never had to sell out like me,
is what my Johnson was singing as he danced his
way up the steps.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
That's right, that's right, go ahead, That's.

Speaker 6 (34:05):
That's what the comments I have so far.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
So and of course, you know, we talk about people
who are sellouts, that's all.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
I just couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
This is Eric Adams, the current mayor of New York,
and so he's not gonna be mayor anymore. But he
went to Israel to tell them how much he loved him.
And I'm thinking, you know that I thought was a
seminal moment for Ma'm donnie. When they asked him, you
know what foreign country you're going to go to, and
he says, I'm not going to go to any foreign country.

(34:36):
I'm going to stay here, you know, mayor of New York.
I'm going to focus on the local issues here. They said, well,
you don't want to go to Israel because everybody else
is saying they're going to go to Israel.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
And Eric Adams.

Speaker 16 (34:48):
Listen to what he had to say here in Israel,
and as I finished, why did you come in back
here to Israel?

Speaker 17 (35:02):
And let you know that I asserved you as the mayor?
But I want to continue to have the title. That's
more important to me than anything.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
I'm your brother. Thank you, there you go, thank you.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
He was mayor of Israel. I didn't know that, did
you guys know that?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
No?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
He just said he served them as the mayor, serving
them as mayor of New York.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
He was serving Israel. How about that.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
We don't realize just how far down the tentacle stretch,
do we. It's absolutely amazing to me. Now everybody has
the kowtow to Trump, count out of Israel, Kautao to
the CIA or whatever. But you really know who controls you,
don't you. We're going to take a quick break, folks,
and we'll be right back and we're going to talk
about what is next with this.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
We'll be right back. You're listening to the David Knight Show.

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Speaker 3 (37:43):
Well, as Trump has been at war with the GP
to keep the Epstein stuff tamped down. Now he's going
to go to war with the Democrats, which is exactly
what you would expect, and I think that will tamp
it down completely. Interestingly, you have Anna Paulina Lune, who
is who's on the House Oversight Committee, said that Bill

(38:05):
and Hillary Clinton are refusing to appear before Congress to
testify in connection with the Jeffrey Epstein issue. And I
got to say, this is kind of amazing. It's kind
of the arrogance of Steve Bannon who refused to testify
and they got him for contempt of Congress. Right, all
you have to do is show up and take the

(38:25):
fifth But that's the arrogance of a lot of these
people in politics.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
They won't even do that.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Notice how the House Democrats suddenly have nothing to say
about it, said Anna Polina Luna. Well, again, these are
the partisan games that you would expect, and this is
their new strategy, so a smarter strategy than going to
war with your own people. But this is the next
stage of this. And Trump had this to say about it.
Let's see something that you post out a true social

(38:56):
Last night you urged House Republicans to vote in favor
of this Epstein release build they're going to vote on tomorrow.

Speaker 14 (39:02):
I just want to be super clear at your position.
Do you want to see that past the Senate? Would
you sign that bill if it gets to your desk?

Speaker 8 (39:08):
I do want to say, here's what I want. We
have nothing to do with Epstein, the Democrats, to all
of his friends Democrats. You look at this Reeq, and
you look at Larry Suttons Biltlin, They went to his
island all the time. Many of this or all Democrats.
All I want is I want for people to recognize

(39:29):
a great job that I've done on pricing, on affordability,
because we've brought prices way down, but they go way
lower on energy.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, lying about medicine wars.

Speaker 8 (39:40):
And another one coming pretty soon.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
I believe also a lot You've done a great job, and.

Speaker 8 (39:45):
I hate to see that deflect from the great job
we've done. So I'm all for it. You know, we've
already given fifty thousand pages.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
You do know that.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah, it's all Democrats, you know, except that Epstein is
a Democrat. Here he is with all Democrats. You know,
Bill and Hillary, and they're all Democrats. It's a club,
and Trump is always a Democrat until he decided that
he wanted to pretend, reinvent himself and tend to be
something that he really wasn't. So after initially calling people

(40:21):
using the release the files on convicted pedophile Jeffy Epstein,
calling them stupid, calling them foolish, he has now pulled
a one tot eighty and is now making a fresh
call to make all the files public because now the
partisan thing not only allows him to consolidate and try
to reunify his base of politicians there in Washington, but

(40:43):
it also allows him to do a cover up through
Pam Bondy if he prosecutes some of them, they should
vote to release the Epstein files because we have nothing
to hide. Well, here's the issue, right, Trump could have
ordered the release of the Epstein files himself, had to
wait for a vote in Congress, and he got called

(41:03):
out about that by a reporter. It made him absolutely furious,
so he said, so let's start talking about the Republican record, which,
by the way, in twenty twenty five has been really awful,
really awful. On the issues. And again, when you look
at Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, it's such a public record.

(41:25):
It's amazing that this guy can reinvent himself and pretend
that he is not a Democrat, that he's not a
Jeffrey Epstein pal. So Glenn Maxwell's petition to the Supreme
Court was not denied until this year. So under Trump's
Department of Justice own current guidelines, which were extensively revised

(41:50):
by Bill Barr during Trump's first term, the Epstein files
should not have been released while Biden was in office.
It's all Trumps the thing to remember. So why didn't
Biden release them? Well because they changed the rules on
that under Bill Barr. And so it really is something
that Trump could do, should do, still not doing. And

(42:13):
you had Epstein's brother went on with Cuomo, so that
he thinks that they're sanitizing the files. You know, I
think Epstein's brother is sanitizing what his brother has done.
It's truly as amazing that this guy has become a
source code, a source for teable.

Speaker 18 (42:33):
I Cuomo, you do want to talk about is I've
been recently told the reason they're going to be releasing
these things, and the reasons for the flip is that
they're sanitizing these files. There's a facility in Winchester, Virginia
where they're scrubbing the files to take Republican names out.
That's what I was told by a pretty good source.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah, well, that's a FBI tradition, and you know, it's
important to talk about this because we need to understand
that the FBI has always been involved in Li's cover
up in blackmail. This is a Jagger Hoover tradition and
we've seen it in things.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Like Flight eight hundred.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
It was the FBI who went around and confiscated evidence
that you had people who had air traffic control records
that saw the missile that shot down flight. They went
around and confiscated this. This is what the FBI does.
It lies, it covers up, it keeps information about people
who blackmails them. And of course you have the same
kind of corruption under Cash Mattel that you had under

(43:32):
Christopher Ray in terms of private use of the jet
that he criticized when he was out of power, but
now that he's in power, he's enjoying all the perks
of power. So the latest file showed a lot of
emails between the Epstein brothers, some of them that said
something made some allegations about Trump having some kind of

(43:55):
a sexual interaction with Bubba, and he was very adamant
that Bubba did not refer to the nickname of Bill Clinton.
And so I guess we can trust the brother of
Jeffrey Epstein. Whatever he has is the right. I'm sure
that he And when he was pushed on it, he said, well,
that's all I got to say. It has nothing to

(44:15):
do with Bill Clinton. And that's my last word on
that email.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
So there you go.

Speaker 6 (44:24):
Uh, well, thanks for clearing that.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Yeah, clearly is amazing that this guy has become a
go to so oh well, you know his brother said this.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
And that about Well, I consider the source mark.

Speaker 15 (44:35):
I trust the brothers, a multi billionaire, you know, predator,
pedophiles who that's who I go to for my news.
My trusted source is Jeffrey Epstein's brother. This is the
world we're living.

Speaker 14 (44:50):
Jeffrey Epstein's brother wants us. I believe that he knows
everything about all the people connected to Epstein, but didn't
have any idea about Epstein's business or what he was doing.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
He wasn't connected with any of it either.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
You know he was looking at all that he knows
everything about it, but he's looking at it from a distance.
I mean, it's just like, I don't know. There's something
wrong about that whole story here.

Speaker 15 (45:10):
Yeah, you've got all the inside details on all of this.
You know exactly who these emails were referring to, but
you weren't involved, or at minimum, you knew what was
happening because you have the context for this, and you
didn't say anything to anyone. She didn't go to the
FBI and say, Hey, I know he's my brother, but
he's involved in some really dark things.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
We've had a lot of those, guy, We've had a
lot of family relatives that have turned in people like
Ted Kazinski. The Unibomber's family brother turned him in when
he figured out that's what he was doing.

Speaker 15 (45:40):
But it was actually his wife that was like, it's
your brother. And he's like, no, it's not my brother.
She's like, it's definitely your brother. And then he read
the specific phrase cool headed logician, which is a phrase
Ted Kazinski often used, or often enough that he knew it.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
It was like, oh, it is him, it's him.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
That was right, Yeah, And they turned him in right,
but not Mark Epstein. He did not turn in his brother,
even though all this stuff was happening, and even after
he was convicted and continued to do this.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
And so there was an interaction on Air.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Force one that between a reporter and Donald Trump where
he told her quiet piggy.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
And again.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
It made him angry that she was persistent in terms
of asking him questions that he was not clearly answering.
And we see reporters who are persistent in their questioning
because we see politicians who always dodge it. And so
he just points a finger at her and tells her
quiet piggy. Yeah, there, quite piggy. Now, a lot of

(46:52):
people thought that was kind of inappropriate, and beneath the
office of presidency, it would be one of those people
who thinks.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
So I was kind of.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Interested to see that. Info War's take on it was
that was epic. No, it was juvenile, and it was
the kind of personality that we have seen from Donald Trump,
which is not the kind of personality that we ever
want to have in as a political leader. Pointing a
finger in the female reporter's face and saying quiet, quiet piggy.

(47:23):
Trump raised some eyebrows during several tense exchanges with members
of the press of the weekend. Of course, he had
another one with an ABC reporter who questioned his corruption
in his involvement with Saudi Arabia and also questioned the
clown Prince of Saudi Arabia NBS and about the Hainus

(47:46):
murder of Kushogi, and Trump really lost it with her.
So the off camera, the female reporter, who was later
identified as a Bloomberg reporter, began to ask if there
was anything incriminating in the Epstein emails, and Trump point
a finger in her face and said, quiet quite piggy.
Piggy's reportedly been a favored insult of the president in

(48:09):
the past. In his twenty sixteen presidential campaign, Former Universe
Alicia Machado, who won the title at the age of
nineteen while Trump was co owner of the organization, claimed
that Trump threatened to take away your title after she
gained weight. He'd yelloped me all the time, you tell
me you look ugly, you look fat. Sometimes he'd say, hello,
miss Piggy, Hello miss Housekeeping. And so Trump snapped at

(48:34):
another reporter who was asking about Tucker Carlson's recent interview
with twintes. He said, well, I found him to be good.
I mean he said things about me over the years.
I think he's good. Referring to Carlson, We've had some
good interviews. I did an interview with him where we
had three hundred million hits. See, that's the that's the

(48:54):
yardstick that Trump uses, is how much attention he gets,
and that's why he does the things that he does.
Began to ask a follow up as Trump was still talking.
He responded, will you let me finish my statement? You
are the worst. You're a Bloomberg, right, you are the worst.
I don't even know why they have you here.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
And so.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
The interaction that he had with this reporter, as I said,
info worst thought, it was epic.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Epic.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Again they love the low life, low class professional wrestling.
Aspect of this, the legacy media circa.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
I can understand part of it.

Speaker 15 (49:36):
You know, journalists, this class that has set themselves apart
from the average person that daine themselves the arbiters of truth,
and they are going to deliver to you the news
and you're going to believe.

Speaker 6 (49:48):
It because they said it.

Speaker 15 (49:50):
It's easy to sit there and anytime someone does anything
to them, go yeah, these people are the worst.

Speaker 6 (49:56):
They have lied to us. But there comes a point
where you have to look.

Speaker 15 (49:59):
At the off of the president and say, this is
beneath that station. It is you know, whereas you know,
maybe somebody it would be okay for somebody to do this.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Well, there's other ways that you can do that, you know,
there's other ways that you can do that. They can
shut it down without calling people names. But of course
it's that kind of juvenile third grade rhetoric that they love.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
And Mago at least still want.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
To kermit the frog voice, you know, made it a
little funny.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Yeahs, piggy or he could have done, could have done, babe, Right,
that'll be enough, Piggy, that'll do.

Speaker 6 (50:33):
That'll doig'll pig.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Uh So anyway, uh, the way they referred to it,
they said, the nagging reporter.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Look, Uh, reporters.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Can sometimes look like they're nagging because politicians are always deflecting.
They will always either change the subject or they will
not directly answer the question, and they will spin it.
That's the whole art of the politician. And so as
they are evading it, a good reporter is going to
press on, and that can be characterized as nagging. But

(51:08):
that's just doing her job.

Speaker 14 (51:09):
Yeah, nagging reporters, as Chres was saying, to exist, and
there are plenty of them. But she's nagging him about
why haven't you released the Epstein files, which you could
have done at any time. That's the key thing. I
think more important than him calling her piggy is that
he's calling her piggy so that he doesn't have to
answer why he's not releasing the Epstein files as he
could have done at any time.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
That's right, And even as critics are rather saying, look,
he called her piggy instead of saying, look, he doesn't
answer the question about releasing the Epstein files. And so
it is disgusting to see the way that he interacts
with people. But anyway, in the White House we see
that it's not we're talking about people that are disgusting

(51:53):
in people who are pigs. The White House intervened on
behalf of a real pig. This is Andrew Tate, and
I think it's yet another example of birds of a
feather when you look at Trump hanging around for fifteen
years of Jeffrey Epstein, his wingman, his best friend, and
then you look at what he's doing for Andrew Tate.

(52:15):
Look at what he's doing for p did he a
lot of talk about the fact that he's going to
get him off. It truly is amazing. And now I'm
not even talking about the massive corruption in terms of
the white collar criminals that he pardoned on behalf of
the Kushner crime family, one of whom after he got

(52:36):
pardoned by Trump and his at the end of his
first term, big white collar criminal. Now he's out there
literally beating people, even hitting a child. He's got an
assault battery charge against him, I think for a child,
but you know, going into a synagogue and berating the
other people that are there. It truly is Trump is

(52:58):
drawn to people like this. Again, it's birds of feather.
You look at that guy that he pardoned who has
just been he was doing drugs, but he's since he's
been out, he's.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Not being.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Retried for doing more drugs. Instead, he's turned to other
things in terms of abuse, physical abuse, and again just
flaunting the tall roads with his Lamborghinis and ferraris. He
just drives right through the calls. He doesn't stop. And
so this is the kind of people and that's that

(53:34):
kind of arrogance and even violence that characterizes I think
Andrew Tate as well. Federal authorities are chided for seizing
electronic devices from Tate and his brother, and we're told
to return them by the White House. These are records
and interviews that show this. Experts say this intervention was
highly unusual as well as inappropriate. So Andrew Tate the

(53:59):
self describe misogynists facing allegations of sex trafficking women in
three countries. When he and his brother left their home
in Romania to visit the United States, Tate posted on
x so the Tates will be free. Trump is the president.
The good old days are back. That's right, Yeah, all
of these people. Trump is just like Andrew Tait. He's

(54:23):
just like Jeffrey Epstein going is.

Speaker 15 (54:26):
I'll see a lot of people say, it's like, well,
these women aren't angels. They're old enough to know what
they're getting into. They're you know, they're freely choosing to
go to this man who they know is an abusive this,
that and the other. Just you have to protect the
gullible and the stupid.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, yeah, he doesn't excuse what he did.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
I mean, this is a monster.

Speaker 15 (54:45):
These women are obviously you know, the women that show
up to this are obviously kind of dumb. You know,
it's sad, and you can't let people like this prey
on the stupid someone. It's just you can't. You have
to do something about it. When there are monsters among you,
you need to remove them. This Andrew Tait is a monster.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Well, I've never been one to try to justify the
violence and sexual assault and are things that are done
by an individual by blaming the victim. That's really what
we're talking about here. You know, she shouldn't addressed that way,
she shouldn't have been jogging in Central Park and all
the rest of this stuff. And it's like, why would
you go there? Why would you feel it necessary to

(55:27):
try to excuse the behavior of this guy. His behavior
is what it is, regardless of the other person who
is essentially the victim. But again, I guess you know,
this is the pedophile pimp vote that Trump is out
there for.

Speaker 14 (55:40):
What Certain jobs are just inherently dirty. I mean obviously pimp,
but things like casino owner or a drug dealer, things
that are taking advantage of stupid people, providing vice for people,
you know, even if they're choosing that you're still a
scumback for providing that.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
I agree, yeah, And I think that's really the issue.
You know, Trump is not so much a real estate guys.
He's a vice guy, isn't he. And we kind of
see that in his friends that are there. So the
official who delivered the message was Paul Engracia trying to
ingratiate himself.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
I guess a.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Lawyer who previously represented the Tate brothers before joining the
White House, where he was working as a Department of
Homeland Security liaison. So you take somebody who was working
for these pimps and women abusers, and you make him
a liaison for Homeland Security.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
That's the Trump administration.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
The incident is the latest in a string of law
enforcement matters where the Trump White House has inserted itself
to help friends and to target foes. Trump has urged
the Justice Department to go after the elected officials who
investigate him and his businesses, and he pardoned a string
of political allies. And Andrew Tate is one of the
most prominent members of the so called manosphere, a collection

(57:01):
of influencers, podcasters, and content creators who help to deliver
young male voters to Trump and That is why I
oppose Andrew Tate.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
I think he is poison.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
I think people like Andrew Tate and Nick Fuentes are
poison in a whole new dimension and they mental and
spiritual dimension. They are absolute poison. They are the fentanyl
to our morality.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
I think. I know.

Speaker 15 (57:30):
I say this every time these guys come up, but
it's important to understand why they appeal to people. If
you don't understand why someone appeals to someone else, it's
very hard to counteract their message. Andrew Tait appeals to
men who have been scorned, have been looked down on, but.

Speaker 6 (57:47):
Been told they're worthless.

Speaker 15 (57:49):
Third wave feminism has been a blight on the country
and it is you know, run men out of a
lot of areas. It has made them feel useless and
uncared for. And then someone comes along and says, no, actually,
you have value. You're the one that builds society. You
are important, and that kind of validation is incredibly powerful

(58:09):
when all you've been told your entire life is you
are the source of all the world's problems.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
I agree, I agree, And that's what it does. Yeah,
it is a basically a reaction to something else that
is bad and people don't have any absolute standard of
where that should be, and so they overreact. The pendulum
swings back too far the other way.

Speaker 15 (58:31):
It's important to realize that feminism is bad, but also
maybe realize that perhaps we shouldn't keep women in a
Romanian sex slavery operation. You know, we can find a
happy middle ground between these two areas.

Speaker 6 (58:44):
Perhaps.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Yeah, people should ask themselves, why is he in Romania
of all places?

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Right?

Speaker 3 (58:53):
I guess he's kind of latching onto that vably impaler
vibe that's out there.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 15 (58:57):
I wonder why I didn't go to a notoriously lawless
and corrupt Eastern Europe.

Speaker 6 (59:01):
Yeah, I wonder what's going on there. It's strange.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Well, it's unclear why law enforcement want to examine these devices,
what their analysis found, or whether Engracia's intervention hindered any investigation.
The White House and DHS declined to answer any questions
about the incident of surprise. Law enforcement experts said it's
highly unusual for the White House to get involved in

(59:24):
border seizures or to demand authorities give up custody of
potential evidence and an investigation. A retired assistant director for
Homeland Security investigations, said, I've never heard of anything like
that in my thirty years of doing this. His job
was to analyze contents of electronic devices after they had
been seized by Custom and Border patrol. For anyone to

(59:48):
say this request is from the White House, he said,
that feels like an intimidation tactic. So again, why is
he weighing in on the side of Andrew Tate.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Well, because he's telling you who he.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Is, and who he is is a guy whose entire
life has been profiting from vice. In surprise reversal, Trump
now supports the GP release of the Epstein files. However,
as I said before, he's going to do that because
now the next wave of defense is to say that

(01:00:20):
we're going to prosecute some of these democrats over there.
So now this is an active investigation, you can't have
that information. But there is another very important caveat here
in this bill to release the information. People are not
buying that Trump didn't know what Jeffrey Epstein was up to.

(01:00:43):
A poll shows that only fifteen percent believe that, which
is pretty bad. You know, you've got an eighty twenty rule.
That's bad enough. This is eighty five fifteen Trump has
long insisted he had no involvement or knowledge of Epstein's crimes,
in spite of the massive evidence public evidence to the contrary.
But the poll conducted mid November with registered voters suggests

(01:01:06):
those niles increasingly falling flat. Sixty percent of Americans think
Trump knew what Epstein Epstein was up to, Only fifteen
percent said he did not, four to one four to one.
Thirty eight percent of voters said they believe that Trump
not only knew but participated in it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
That would be my opinion. I would be in that
thirty eight percent.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
So even Fox's Brett Bear is asking, why did it
take so long for Trump to support releasing these Epstein files?
Why is he still waiting for this procedure through Congress
to happen when he could do it on his own,
and he could just release this stuff. But the and
you have, Howard Kunstler said, come on, just spill the beans.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Already, just let this out. Why have this psycho.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Drama that is there so the never ending game of
political will hide the salami and the stonewalling, He said,
it developed into a soap opera over the weekend between
Trump and Marjorie Taylor Green acting out their lover's quarrel
on every public channel of news and gossip, until finally
Trump pulled one of his trade mark jujitsu moves and said, well,

(01:02:18):
now we're going to release the files. Well, the public
really wants to find out is switch celebrities politicians? Otherwise
we're having sex with underage girls. And so that said
celebrities can be frog marched out of public life only
tertiariy do they care that Jeffrey Epstein was some kind
of an agent or a go between for the US

(01:02:38):
UK Israeli spy services. I agree, and I think it's
too bad because that is I will continue to run
this fountain of evil in our society, the intelligence agencies
and in every society. It's not just American society, but

(01:02:59):
it's also and Israel as well. As he pointed out
in UK on Sunday night, Trump stepped out of the
way in one of his customary truth social blurts. Wouldn't
it be better if he just went on air with
an Oval office speech to level with the American people,
telling all that he knows and whether people need to
know about this drawn out Epstein business. Trump has had

(01:03:21):
many years to familiarize himself with all the details of Epstein,
and he knows because he was there, he must know
exactly what the guy was up to. Yeah, who he
catered to as global finance figure and a trafficker of
girls to the political elite. What could possibly shock anyone?
At this point, Trump should give that speech, whether the

(01:03:41):
House and the Senate vote to release the DOJ files
or not. Above all, I'm sure you realize that the
country can't stand any more lying, most particularly from Trump
and his entourage. The institutional damage is just too grave.

Speaker 14 (01:03:55):
Yah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
As I look at this, it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Reminds me the way this is unfolded and built built up,
and the stupid way of the presidency has responded to
it reminds me very much of the Richard Nixon thing
or the Watergate burglary. And it was all about the
cover up. Wasn't even really about the substance of it
so much so as our long national nightmare over That

(01:04:17):
was what Gerald Ford said when he pardoned Richard Nixon.
But we moved on from a third rate burglary to
these pedophile billionaires. But here's the key thing that's been
building up to for a long time. Ken Klippenstein said
that the issue of national security is going to block

(01:04:38):
the Epstein files release, and I believe that is the
case as well. Whether or not it is, I think
it's very telling that this escape clause was incorporated into
the bill, and as incorporated in the bill, Massey knew.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
It, even addressed it when he put it in there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
It says not the kind of national security that has
anything to do with national defense or harm to the nation,
but the self serving kind that protects a system from
the people by depriving them of information.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
And that is the key thing.

Speaker 14 (01:05:08):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
The guy who created this whole thing about national security
and the national security state was Truman. And of course
he also created the CIA, and he created the NSA
by executive order, and so, you know, setting up the
American empire to be the world's policeman, to have the
police action of the Korean War, to create the CIA,

(01:05:30):
of the NSA, and this whole thing of national security
that had nothing to do with the defense of the nation,
but they've used it to cover up everything that they do.
But eighty nine percent of Americans in agreement that the
Justice Department shore re LEAs all information about Epstein. The
image is clear national security is more important than democracy.

(01:05:50):
Take a look at Congress's long shot attempt to force
the release. The seemingly innocuous word appears in the resolution,
that one word is unclassified. And you got to ask yourself,
why would they say, well, we're going to release all
the information that is unclassified. Why would any of this stuff,

(01:06:11):
folks be classified? If they were telling us the truth
that didn't involve Masad and the CIA.

Speaker 15 (01:06:20):
So the fact that it's just if this is some
other countries national security secrets, who cares? That's on them.
That's on them to keep their secrets secret. If it's
that important to them, they should have done a better job.
If this involves another country, release it. I don't care
if it burns every last Israeli intelligence agent to the ground,
if they have to abandon every operation they're running, that's

(01:06:43):
not our business.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
There, congressc congresscares because they're owned by the Israeli government.

Speaker 14 (01:06:50):
That was my comment on it was that they aren't
releasing this for national security issues. Did they say which
nation's security?

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Somehow the word unclassified made its way into the Epstein
Files Transparency Act. It is the wrong word, says Ken Klippenstein.
He said no record. He's quoting from it. Okay, here's
what it says. Here's the escape clause. Why they're not
going to release any information regardless of what happens with
the investigations. That's just another way that they can do it.

(01:07:21):
But it says in the document itself, no record shall
be withheld, delayed, or redacted on the basis of embarrassment,
reputational harm, or political sensitivity, including to any government official,
public figure, or foreign dignitary. And then it goes on
to undermine all that. The bill says that if the
Attorney General makes a determination that covered information may not

(01:07:44):
be declassified and made available in a manner that protects
the national security of the US, including methods or sources
related to national security, the Attorney General shall release an
unclassified summary for each of the redacted or withheld classified information.
In other words, the Attorney General gets to decide what

(01:08:08):
to release and how to characterize it. And that's true
whether this is an ongoing investigation or she can just
wave the it's classified. If I released it, I have
to kill you type of thing. This is the way
Washington works, and this is I think the key takeaway
from all of this. Massey even said, well, you have
to put that in there if you're going to get

(01:08:29):
them to sign it. It's not something I would sit
and say, let's put that in there. It's something that
when you run the bill past other colleagues and you
say can you sign this, in fact, we can get
every Democrat.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
To sign it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
He says, it's one of the things that was that
we felt was necessary to put in there. So again,
the resolution consequently falls prey to the national security doctrine
that is infecting every corner of American life, you know,
national security bokes. It's basically this whole national security mechanism, the.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
CIA, the NSA, MASAD.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Six Also, that is what gave us the people like Epstein.
They routinely run these honey traps, honeypot traps to set
somebody up and blackmail them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
I mean, just take a look.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Jared Kushner's father did that to his brother in law
because they were going to testify against him. This is
he's not an intelligence I mean, this is just criminal
evil activity. But the evil activity that people like Jared
Kushner's father did has been institutionalized by the intelligence agencies.

(01:09:49):
Asked by independent journalist Michael Tracy about a similar carve
out for national Defense Information and other legislation in September,
that was what Massey had said at that point time.
He said, yeah, we put that in all the bills
because you got to understand that, no matter what happens,
we're not going to release any information that the national

(01:10:11):
security creeps want to have secret. And so we know
who the real government is, right, because you're not allowed
to criticize them. We know who the real government is
because you're not even allowed to say the name Voldemort, right,
you shall not be named is the CIA, the NSA,
the intelligence agencies. So you will not do anything that

(01:10:34):
reveals anything about them. And they always hide behind national
security because they are national security. They are the power
that is there, and it has infected everything. It is
a cancer that is metastasized throughout our entire society. And
when you look at drugs, and you look at sex

(01:10:56):
and all the rest of this stuff. This has all
been driven not just the blackmailing stuff, but even the
campaigns by the CIA to sell feminism and pornography.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
And all that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
It's coming from the usual people. They're always doing that
the fifty year old Freedom of Information Act states the
federal government cannot withhold data from public merely because it's embarrassing.
In a twenty twenty one lawsuit still pending, attorney Dan
Novak sued for the Epstein records, the FBI rattled off
a long list of information that says it cannot disclose,

(01:11:32):
which includes names that are under an implied assurance of confidentiality,
names that are under express assurance of confidentiality, names who
provided information, names of third parties of investigative interest, names
and identities of FBI special agents, and so forth, Foreign
government agency information under implied confidentiality, implied confidentiality, so it

(01:11:58):
goes on. They have all these different caps, so you
can't get anything of any importance for any of these
people about any subject. So of course we're not going
to see any Epstein documents because everything that we need
to know about our government is prohibited from us knowing
about from our government. King Clippson Science said the absurd
lack of transparency by government is a big reason for

(01:12:19):
the prevalence of conspiracy theories. He doesn't mention the fact
that it was the FBI that coined that term to
keep you from looking at their lives about the Kendy assassination.
When the government is hiding something, people are nactually going
to assume the worst. Well, I would look at it
from a different aspect. You know, these things are conspiracy facts,

(01:12:39):
most of them. Secondly, if you give these people the
ability to operate in secret without any transparency, and you
give them access to unlimited amounts of money and so forth,
what do you think that's given human nature? What do
you think that's going to do to people? Given time?
What do you think it's going to do to institutions
that are comprised of people? It's going to corrupt them.

(01:13:01):
And since these things have been around now for like
sixty years, eighty years, I guess this is why the
intelligence agencies are so thoroughly and completely corrupted. They have
been moving in this awful direction for the longest amount
of time. You give them the power to hide from

(01:13:22):
public scrutiny, you give them access to unlimited amounts of
power and money. You tell them they can do anything,
They can kill anybody that they wish, and nobody can
talk about it. Well, what do you think you're going
to wind up with that? Folks? Is the real essence
of this story, the rest of the stuff, whether people
wake up to what Trump really is, whether or not

(01:13:44):
they do some kind of a document dump. There's not
going to be any smoking guns, any of that stuff.
All of it will be sanitized one way or the other.
But the reality is is to see who it is
that's doing this and the nature of what our true
government really is. In nineteen ninety one, Congress passed a
law that gave up its power to oversee things relating

(01:14:06):
to national security.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Very interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
We had an oversight committee that was founded in nineteen
twenty seven for the purpose of overseeing the executive branch.
But then in nineteen ninety one they said, we don't
want to have that responsibility anymore. We don't want to look.
We don't want to be responsible for letting this thing
go through. Commonly cited statutory restrictions on oversight relate to

(01:14:30):
foreign intelligence activities. We have our own star Chamber, the Fies,
a court through the Congress is generally interpreted executive privilege
very narrowly. National security is the big exception to that.
It's as if Trump or any president for that matter,
has a panic button that is labeled national security Pam

(01:14:55):
Bondi explained back in March why the Epstein files will
be released. Asked by a Fox News host Sean Hannity,
if anything besides victim's information might need to be redacted,
she replied, well, of course national security. Again, if alex
Acosta and his initial hearings where they were interviewing him

(01:15:16):
for Labor secretary, why did you give him such a
sweetheart deal. Well, I was totally off of him because
he was with the intelligence agencies. He's now in subsequent testimony,
he has now completely reversed himself. So under oath talking
to Congress, alex Acosta lied either then or now, And

(01:15:37):
of course they're not going to do anything to come
after him. James Clapper lied to Congress as well. They
never came after him. But the reality is is that
this is really he was telling the truth of the
first time. This really is about the spy agencies, which
is not about national security except for the extent that

(01:15:59):
it is the government keeping it self secure. It's not
about protecting you and me. It's not about keeping us
out of warse about putting us into wars. As a
matter of fact, this huge scandal that has broken in Ukraine.
And guess what, Mike Pompey is now going to be
a advisor to the company that's at the heart of

(01:16:20):
that Ukrainian scandal. He's like a Dick Cheney, right, He's
going to get right in there and be an advisor
to them. I guess since he bragged about the fact.
He said, when I was at West Point, we're told
we don't lie, cheater steel, and we don't tolerate people
who do. But he said, when I went to the CIA,
we had classes on all those things. And the thing

(01:16:41):
that amazed me about all that was that I don't
think that's a funny joke. It is actually what is happening.
But the people at Texas A and M a conservative
university I forever there was one, laughed and applauded with that,
and I always think of shame on those people for
laughing and applauding for that. But I guess that's what

(01:17:03):
his role is going to be there in Ukraine. He's
going to teach them how to lie, steal, and cheat.
Maybe you'll also teach them how to do assassinations and coups,
because that's the reason that we have the Ukrainian government
that's there in the first place. But this is why
this is important. Yeah, the depravity of the elites and
the fact that they can do it with immunity, that

(01:17:26):
is important. People need to understand that. But understand that
the most elite of the elite are the intelligence agencies
like Massad and the CIA, that they are the ones
who control the government more so than the president. The
president will basically humiliate himself in public in order to

(01:17:47):
please Masad and the CIA. That's what the takeaway I
think from this whole Epstein episode is is it just
shows you that you know the figurehead of the president
and who the real government is, and the RealD government
is pure evil and of course you can't talk about
them and you're not allowed to see what they are doing.

(01:18:10):
That's the bottom line. Well, we're gonna take a break, Travis.
Give us the comments here.

Speaker 15 (01:18:16):
All right, pull them up right now, let's see what
we got. They're coming in as I speak, or a
bit uh sort of a system.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Now, yeah, let me let me start with it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Then let's see we've got marky Mark, thank you for
the Tippy said the phrase methods and sources enables all
sorts of mischief, all sorts of cover ups. Yeah, isn't
that interesting? You know they use these vague terms, and
that is just like, you know, a loophole that you
can drive an eighteen wheel er through even if you
can't speak English. Right, Plasma stream, thank you for the

(01:18:51):
tippys that I expected nothing from them in regards to
the Epstein files, but I will accept the free nails
to hammer the megas coffin on the public square and
in conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
That's right.

Speaker 15 (01:19:03):
And again that was mega m I ga, it's real
great Again, that's right. Gotta be careful when you're saying
those words. Yeah, defy tyrants seventeen seventy six. Anybody else
think Trump didn't look or sound well, Well, he hasn't
looked or sounded well my entire life, so it's kind
of hard to say.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Well, somebody actually called him out on his raspy voice.
I've got a clip about this here.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
I have a question about it as well.

Speaker 14 (01:19:28):
But can I just first ask that hell of the
President's always news? Your voice sounds a little rougher.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
You fill in our huts.

Speaker 8 (01:19:33):
I feel great. I was shouting at people because they
were stupid about something having to do with UH trade
in a country and I straightened it a but I
blew my stack at the well.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
Yeah, so it's just you know, it's just a yelling
at people. That's nothing, nothing, see, just move on, hey, Piggy,
that'll do pig go ahead, we speak.

Speaker 15 (01:20:02):
Yeah, super Charger, I saw a Toyota Supra on the
road the other day. Actually, there's not many of them
left around. Too many people wrap them around telephone polls
and things.

Speaker 6 (01:20:15):
It was exciting to see it. Exciting to see it,
Supercharger says.

Speaker 15 (01:20:18):
The Tates and Myron Gains are leading beat down men
into evil advice.

Speaker 6 (01:20:22):
We need to find better male role models for them.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
That's the whole point. I mean, you know, why make
these people role models? You know, that's our question, right,
you know, I understand why Trump likes them, He's just
like them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
But that's the question.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
They are undermining our society in a very evil way.
And it's all again I understand the blowback, and that's
always the danger. You know, when when we look at
and I would say, you know, even when you look
at Trump's gents tour here, right, there was a lot

(01:21:02):
of unjustified lawfare that was done against him. And on
the one hand. I've said in the past that was
what got him elected. So he ought to thank some
of these people, and the money that he spent that
he's going to give him write himself a check, he said,
for over two hundred million dollars for his legal fees.

(01:21:23):
And he's not gonna do anything for the J six people.
But that money. I just considered that to be campaign
expenses because they really put him in office as part
of a blowback. But there's a right way to handle
it and a wrong way to handle it. And to
destroy the rule of law to set up precedence that
I'm going to bring me the man and I'll find

(01:21:43):
the crime. That is the wrong way to handle it.
And so you know, we look at the Tate Brothers
and they are out there as a pushback against feminism.
And I don't use the adjectives of first, third, first,
second or third wave. I don't care. There's any feminism
that is good. Being feminine is good, but not feminism.
And so the pushback against that, there's other ways that

(01:22:07):
we need to push back against it, and we need
to be wise about how we oppose these things, and
we need to always have in mind what the goal
is not just to get even, but we have to
have a mindset of how we would like to change
things for the better. And we're talking about that, and
we talk about insurance coming up here in a second.

Speaker 15 (01:22:30):
Yeah, it's also important to remember just Andrew Tate has
a lot of money. He's got a lot of cars,
he's got everything that the world you know, prizes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
All those beers and worse to own, as the song says.

Speaker 15 (01:22:45):
Right, and any person with an ounce of common sense
would look at his life and say, I would never
want that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:22:52):
Any person should be able to look at that and say,
not for me, thank you. He is, you know, just
so obviously empty and trying desperately to fill avoid with
whether it's social media attention or sex or drugs or anything.

Speaker 6 (01:23:09):
He is desperate. Yeah, and it's obvious.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Yeah, there was an interesting backup.

Speaker 15 (01:23:14):
Ny men look at that and say that's what I need,
That's what I need. If only I had his Bugatti,
or if only I had all these women throwing themselves
at me, I'd be satisfied.

Speaker 6 (01:23:24):
You won't, Yeah, you won't.

Speaker 15 (01:23:26):
It's obviously not working for him, because he's still trying,
he's still striving, he's still on social media, desperate for attention.

Speaker 6 (01:23:32):
Yeah, he's still empty. You need christ.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
There was interesting take from a woman who didn't have
any real solution for her. She is eighty seven years
old and she's an author. She came after Musk responded
to a tweet and her response to him went viral.
It got like twelve thousand retweets or something like that,
and she said, look at this guy, and he's got

(01:23:58):
all this money in the world, but he doesn't seem
to enjoy anything in life. He doesn't pause and look
at anything that is beautiful. He doesn't reallyax. And you
could say that about pretty much all of these billionaires,
and you could certainly say it about somebody like Andrew Tate.
But constantly they're like a shark. They're constantly eating right,
constantly looking for new prey. And they can't just be

(01:24:20):
content to sit on the beach because if they did that,
the shark would die. And so she said that it
really got under his skin, but it was really true.
She said, you know, very simple people out there can
enjoy the beauty and their life, and they can enjoy
persons that they're around, and that type of thing. And
then she criticized him for not embracing the transgender aspect

(01:24:43):
of one of his children. So it's like, Okay, well
I know where she's coming from. This is somebody who
does not have a base of understanding. She can't even
understand what reality is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
But you know, we can look at this and we.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Can see the billionaires and so many of these influencers
and just how empty their life can be because of
what they're chasing. And I think that we need to
always keep that in mind. Marky, Mark, thank you for
Tippy said. Elon is a biblical name. Remember Elon the
Hittite from Genesis. Well, it's not where Elon Muscus Romans

(01:25:20):
he a Hittite. I don't know. That's interesting. You know
you talked about hit Heights. That was before evolution. The
big higher criticism of the Bible was it talks about
all these different nations and tribes and civilizations. We have
no record of them existing. And Hittites were like exhibit A.
Whoever heard of the Hittites except in the Bible. They
don't exist anywhere in the Bible. Then when they started

(01:25:41):
doing biblical archaeology, they found a wealth of archaeological evidence
of the Hittite society, and that's the way it typically goes.
But we're going to take a quick break, folks, and
we'll be right back loops on second.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
There we are.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
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Yes, welcome back, and Travis she said, we got a
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want to thank the people for that.

Speaker 15 (01:27:18):
Yes, I want to thank Marky Mark and New Jersey.
It says the phrase methods and sources, and we had
all sorts. Yeah we did.

Speaker 6 (01:27:24):
Yeah, we must have missed when that got covered.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Yes, but I agree with him that is a giant loophole.

Speaker 6 (01:27:30):
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Speaker 15 (01:27:30):
I think I don't think we covered plasma stream, but
just in case, I expected nothing from them in regards
to the Epstein files, but I will accept no, you
covered that one as well. You covered them all and
I'm just so used to reading them myself.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Well I'm that'll that'll do pig, just requiet pig. It
wasn't just in that interchange. But Trump is getting especially touchy.
You know, he's always been temperamental, He's always had temperament issues.
But ABC's Mary Bruce hit him in the Oval Office
with a couple of tough questions. Here's what she had

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to say.

Speaker 5 (01:28:08):
Is it appropriate, mister President, for your family to be
doing business in Saudi Arabia while you're president?

Speaker 15 (01:28:13):
Is that a conflict of interest?

Speaker 8 (01:28:14):
And your Royal highness?

Speaker 5 (01:28:16):
The US Intelligence concluded that you orchestrated the brutal murder
of a journalist.

Speaker 15 (01:28:20):
Note eleven families are furious that you are here.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
In the Oval Office.

Speaker 8 (01:28:24):
Watched Americans Who and the same So who you wire?
I'm with ABC NEWSIR, you're with who?

Speaker 18 (01:28:29):
ABC news?

Speaker 8 (01:28:30):
Fake news, ABC fake news. One of the worst, one
of the worst.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Does answer to ask you a question?

Speaker 17 (01:28:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:28:36):
I have nothing to do with the family business. I
have left and when I I've devoted one hundred percent
of my energy. What my family does is fine. They
do business all over. They've done very little with Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Actually they could.

Speaker 8 (01:28:47):
I'm sure they could do a lot, and anything they've
done has been very good. That's what we've done. We've
built a tremendous business.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
For a long time.

Speaker 8 (01:28:54):
I've been very successful. I decided to leave that success
pee behind and make America very successful and America more
successful by far than it ever was.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Americans looking like a casino.

Speaker 8 (01:29:06):
It could have been no matter who was president, there
would be nobody bringing in twenty one trillion dollars. That
I can tell you right now, as far as this
gentleman is concerned, he's done a phenomenal job. You're mentioning
somebody that was extremely controversial. A lot of people didn't
like that gentleman that you're talking about, whether you like
him or didn't like him. Things happened, but.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
He knew nothing of things happening.

Speaker 8 (01:29:27):
You can leave it at that. You don't have to
embarrass our guests by asking a question like that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Just yes, book to answer.

Speaker 10 (01:29:33):
You know, I feel painful about, you know, the families
of nine living in America, But you know, we have
to focus on reality, reality business. See all documents, and
based on documents that he used Saudi people and that
event for one main purpose is to destroy this relation,

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to destroy the American Saudi relation.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
That's the victims of the whoever buying.

Speaker 10 (01:30:00):
That that means they are helping was how to lead
the purpose of destroying this relation. He know that strong
relation between America and Saudi Arabia. It's bad for extremism,
it's bad for terrourism. And we have to approve him
wrong and to build our relation, to continue developing our relation.
It's a critical in the safety of the world. It's
a critical against extremism and terrorism. About the journals, it's

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really painful to hear, you know, anyone that's been losing
his life for you know, no real purpose or no
not in anegal Way. And it's been painful for us
in Saudi Arabia. We've did all the light steps of investigation,
et cetera in Saudi Arabia, and we've improved our system

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to be sure that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Nothing happened like that.

Speaker 10 (01:30:48):
And it's painful and it's a huge mistake and we
are doing our best that this doesn't happen again.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
All lives.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
Yeah, first of all, we murdered a we murder a report.

Speaker 14 (01:31:00):
That was a terrible mistake. We've got systems in place
to prevent us from murdering reporters on accident.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
Yeah, we accidentally chopped him up in little pieces over
an extended period of time.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
Whether he's alive at the time or not, we don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
But Trump's reaction sounded like a mafia don, didn't it.
You know, Well, hey, you know a lot of people
didn't like him, but you know, things happen, you know,
things happened. And then the Saudi guy, he realized that
tim Osman, the CIA operative, you know, he was really
doing this and using Saudi people because he wanted to
hurt the relationship between Saudi Arabia and America. That was

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his real goal and all of that, even though he
didn't do it, even though that's our job of our
own government.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
His real issue.

Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
He wanted to destroy tourism in Saudi Arabia and he
wanted to destroy that relationship between America and the Saudist
Isn't that an amazing explanation for nine to eleven. I'd
never heard that one before.

Speaker 14 (01:31:58):
Trump's things sounding like a mafia don. First, it's no
conflict of interest if my children are, you know, profiting
off to this, because I'm not involved in the family
business anymore. So therefore, even if my children are profiting
off that, he doesn't see that as a conflict of interest.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
Well, it's just like what Biden did with Hunter. It's
the same exact thing. You know, he's the big guy,
and they're trading on his influence with these deals that
they have. And so one person said, thank you to
Mary Bruce for giving it, for giving it to that
child rapist, So let's not sanitize what he has done.

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He finds a sick, twisted pleasure in defiling and ripping
apart the innocence of a child. And much respect to
her for calling him out on what is yet another
terrorist that he brings in and honors. The one that
he had last week was the guy who was always
with al Qaeda and ISIS and al Nousra, and the

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guy that our criminal government, the CIA helped in the
Pentagon put in power. They gave him their support and
everything else to put him in power. And now that
headshopper there is coming after Christians and Allowhites and a
lot of different minority groups. So Trump says to Mary Bruce,

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you're a terrible person. That would be a compliment coming
from somebody like him, and somebody like this terrorist. He
keeps bringing in these terrorists there Trump dismisses the murder
while praising the clown Prince, says New York Times. Trump
brushed off the murder of Jamal Kashogi by Saudi agents, saying,

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you know, things happen. Fighter jets and investment deals were
on the agenda for today. And it's not just Trump,
but there's also the Trump media that is blowing it
off as well. Trump strongly defended Prince Mohammed, who US
intelligence has said ordered the killing of Jamal Kushogi, the

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journalist who was killed by Saudi agents. Trump closes remarks
by thinking the Saudi clown prints for his earlier commitment
to invest a trillion dollars, and that folks is, by
the way, is absurd. You know, it's just like the
ridiculous amounts that have been pledged by the EU. There's

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no way that they're ever going to make those kinds
of investments. It's too much in terms of their gross
domestic clod They don't have that much money. The clown
Prince said, no one speaks better than the President. He
hailed the US Saudi relationship. He said, we believe the
opportunities are huge. Into the short remarks by saying that
betting sites had placed bids on what he might be wearing.

(01:34:53):
I guess I'm going to bid that he's going to
be wearing a white sheet.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
What's your bet lands? Well, he always wears the same
outfit everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
Is that? You know?

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
Has he got a different thing that holds a sheet
on his head? Does he change that from day to day?
Maybe he's got some colored underwear or something.

Speaker 14 (01:35:14):
I don't know the pattern of the picnic planket he
wears on his head is going to change.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
Trump just announced that he was elevating Saudi Arabia to
the role of a major non NATO ally, meaning the
kingdom in the US have agreed to work closely together
a military and economic initiatives. Know what it means is
that they're going to sell them some fighter jets and
that's all that that means. It's just for the military
industrial complext. Also there was Apple chief executive Tim Cook

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and in Nvidia's chief executive Jensen Hwaang. They sniff a
lot of money that could come around there. But certainly
the key thing is that he doesn't have the trillion
dollars to invest in the country He's talking about a
trillion dollar investment. But that is the size of Saudi

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Arabia's entire annual gross domestic product. They're not going to
invest that much.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
It's just like.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
The meaningless pledges from Ursula fond of whying about the
kind of investment that the EU was going to make
in the US when they were talking about tariffs. These
people throw these numbers out. Trump loves it. He parrots
these things out, and somebody will go back and say,
how big is that compared to their income? Their annual income.
And when you look at it and you realize that

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there's no way that they're going to make that kind
of investment, nobody pays attention to it.

Speaker 15 (01:36:39):
That should literally be the first thing, Yeah, anyone does,
Anyone with even the shred of common sense should look
at these numbers and go, well, what's the entire country's GDP,
what's their total export? And realize this is an impossibly
high number. They're not going to commit this percentage of
their entire.

Speaker 6 (01:36:57):
GDP to one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (01:36:59):
It's just ridiculous and I'm surd so.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
Just lies and bs that were being fat And by
the way, if you want to get upset about Koshogi's murder. Yeah,
you know, one murder is a tragedy, but a million
people being killed by a vaccine he that Trump cheers.
Or even if you just look at the direct kinetic murders,
you know, the bombings, He's got seventy some odd people

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that he's killed in one of them, for sure, a
fisherman that was not doing any drugs. So Trump has
killed far more people. And so I guess you know
it's not a big deal for him to host other
terrorists since he is a terrorist as well, because he
killed them for political reasons, right, and to strike fear.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
So I said.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
Mom had said that he's in discussions about contributing Saudi
money to reconstruction efforts in the Gaza. He said it'll
be a lot, Trump interjected, although the clown Prince did
not confirm. The Prince is not keen to get involved
in reconstructing or policing Gaza at a time when his
financial capital is limited and he is largely focused on

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his domestic economic priorities, unlike Trump. Right, in other words,
because I at least this guy is focused on domestic
economic priorities, not Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
He's out there doing everything.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
He now wants to be the leader of the world,
and that is his aspiration, and it's where his ego
has led him, and he really doesn't care about what
happens with America. Trump spends a lot of time denegrating
the press, but the vitriol that he's displaying in front
of a diplomatic guest, says The New York Times, is stunning.
He lashed out of the reporter's question, calling her a

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terrible person and saying that ABC news is broadcasting license
should be revoked. So again, Trump spent some time trying
to get the Prince to say that he's been the
best president for the Saudi Arabian US relationship, but the

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terrorist demurred. He praised FDR and Ronald Reagan, but not
Trump so much. Since Trump's election a year ago, Dar Global,
a business partner of the Trump organization that he has
that has close ties to the Saudi government, has announced
at least four Trump branded developments in Saudi Arabia. The

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Trump organization is also in negotiations that could bring a
Trump branded property to one of Saudi Arabia's largest government
owned real estate developments, overseeing by Prince Muhammad himself. So again,
this kind of crony corruption, crony capitalism, and has nothing
to do with Trump. It's all just his kids are

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out there, and you know, his being president opens the door.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
As we've talked about before, the crypto stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
Everybody says, well, I wouldn't be talking to them if
it wasn't for that connection, just like with Hunter Biden,
and so it's you know, he says that this guy
knew nothing about the murder Koshogi, but you know, hey,
a lot of people didn't like him.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
Eah, things happen, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
So the CIA said in twenty twenty one they assessed
that Saudi agents in Istan bull acted on the orders
of Muhammed ben Salmon when they killed and dismembered Kashogi
in twenty eighteen, who had written critically of the Saudi
royal family. And so if you're a reporter who criticizes that,

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for them right now, the only thing that happens is
Trump bertshoe verbally. But he is he would like to
do the same thing himself. Quite frankly, A lot of
people didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about, but
things happen, and so I think it's a very interesting
He had jets that were flying over and he brought

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him into the more elaborate side of the White House.
Here's what it looked like. This is how we honor terrorists,
you know, because he's going to be buying a lot
of jet planes, so we'll fly some of them over there,
and we'll have that other terrorist that we put into
office with our coup and Syria, we will bring him

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in on Veterans Day as a slap in the face
to our own military. Truly is amazing, is it? What
does it take? What does it take for people to
figure out where this guy is coming from. Well, the
way this was all represented again as we talked about it, it

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was epic. When he calls reporter, shut up pig. That
was the take from info Wars, and the take from
info Wars is maga, economy win.

Speaker 16 (01:41:53):
Look at this.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
He's going to give us a trillion dollars and it's like, yeah,
they're going to pass these lines onto you. Trump cheers terrorists,
and if he's selling economic bs to the crowd, then
info Wars will cheer the terrorists and sell economic bs
to the crowd as well. Truly is amazing to watch

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this corruption. Well, we're going to take a quick break,
and when we come back, we're going to take a
look at the insurance stuff about Obamacare. This big that's
the heart of this big fight that shut down the government.
That's what's going to happen with insurance, and so we're
going to take a look at what the Republicans are
talking about doing. When we come back, we're going to
take a quick break up. Well, actually, why don't you

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do the comments there, Travis before we go.

Speaker 15 (01:42:40):
All right, I'm just waiting for them to come in
right now. That is the one issue with the system
we have at the moment. We have to sending them
over a Travis Austin.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
He'll be back on Monday.

Speaker 15 (01:42:52):
That's right, be back Monday, and very excited to be back.
I Marty says another the words Massing admits you had
to allow a poison pill in the bill to get
it passed. Another shot in the foot.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 15 (01:43:07):
Right, if you're in Washington, you have to apparently make
concessions and do deals with the worst people on the planet.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
I would never be interested in being a congressman because
they can shut you down with parliamentary procedure and all
that they can put a gag on you where you
can't even talk, let alone pass a bill where you
think youre going to get something to happen. All of
the government is secret. All of it is run by
this evil cabal that we call generally national intelligence, and

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it's primarily the CIA. A lot of times I just
use that as shorthand, but it's all these different intelligence agencies,
a lot of them military, And of course the intelligence
agencies are not monolithic. Some of them have a right
wing agenda, some of them have a left wing agenda.
CIA is predominantly left wing, the military intelligence agencies the
other way. But you can't get anything done. Nothing is

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going to happen until the government in Washington collapses, and
it's going to be difficult to go through. But it
can't happen soon enough as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 15 (01:44:09):
Well, we've got Niberu twenty twenty nine says safety and
security equals the most tyrannical terms in the world. It's
for your safety. Yeah, it's for your safety, so you
have to go along with it. It's for your safety,
or it's for the kids' safety. They love saying it's
for the safety of children as they're trying to prey
upon them or mutilate them, or just flat out murder

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as many children as they can through abortion.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (01:44:37):
And those are the comments that I have.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
Okay, we got another one here from Niberu twenty twenty nine.
Back in the mid nineties, while as good buddy Clinton
was in office, Trump and asked if he ever ran
for president, he would run as a Republican to make
sure that he could get selected. Yeah, and a couple
more here was the piggy reference from the Lord of
the Flies. Yeah, that's a good question right there. That's

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from Plasma straammeils. All right, so or was it Lord
of the Flies? Was it from it? Or was it
actually the thing? Yeah, you kind of remember that. All Right,
We're gonna take a quick break. Folks will be.

Speaker 6 (01:45:10):
Well for you to assume Trump reads.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
Yeah, I don't think he does. Making sense common again,

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Speaker 3 (01:47:13):
Well, we've been spending almost two hours talking about what's
wrong with America, especially in Washington. But also you know
the different currents that have taken over our society, different
role models that we have there. I think this was
an interesting story that's gone viral.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
This is a.

Speaker 3 (01:47:29):
FedEx driver who dropped everything to go back and help
a grieving woman. Her name is Amanda Riggan. She works
hard as a FedEx driver, and she also runs a
mission that she calls Hungry Heroes to encourage others and
to thank local heroes by making them food, according to
its website, and here's what happened as she describes it.

(01:47:52):
One day, go ahead and run that clip lance.

Speaker 13 (01:47:54):
Hey everyone, as you can tell on that work, I
just had to pool over and share something real quick.
As I'm delivering, I pull up to this house. The
lady walks out because she's checking her mailbox for her newspaper,
and I have two boxes for so we start walking
up the driveway together and she asked me if I
had a happy holidays, and I was telling her how
busy it was, told her I had a really great

(01:48:17):
Christmas in New Year's and I asked her the same.
I was like, how was your holidays? And with tears
in her eyes, she said it wasn't good. And she said,
he's sick. My husband's sick. He has cancer. I continue
to small talk to try to change the subject because
that's awkward, and I deliver her package. She said, what's

(01:48:42):
your name? I said Amanda, and she told me her name.
I drove off. My heart's pounding. I do probably twenty
more stops and I have to go back. You know,
with this kind of job, we're on a tight schedule.
Quicker you do it her, quicker you get home. I

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saw what I was doing. I went back to that
neighborhood and rang her doorbell and asked her. She came
down the stairs and she had tears in her eyes
when she saw it was me. She smiled and I said, ma'am,
can I pray with you? And she just broke down.
She came out on the front porch and squeezed me
so tight. This lady I've never met. She hold my

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hands so tight. And I prayed for her and her
family and for her husband. And the point of this
is is a lot of people want the Lord to
use them, and for me, as an example, I pray
every day for the Lord to use me. But when
he's he's trying to use you, or when you feel

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that call and that tug on your heart strings, do
you move your feet?

Speaker 6 (01:49:53):
Do you move?

Speaker 13 (01:49:54):
Because I easily could have just went I have one
hundred stops. I easily could have just went about the
rest of my day thing about it. So when you
feel those tugs on your on your heart strings and
you feel like you need to do this, stop and
do it. Well you know what I mean? Oh man,

(01:50:15):
that was like the most genuine hug I've received in
a long time. And I just want to share that
with you.

Speaker 6 (01:50:21):
Guys.

Speaker 13 (01:50:22):
If you if you're praying for the Lord to help
and to use you in people's situations, when he is
giving you a chance, do it. If not, you're gonna
you're gonna continue to think about it and think about
it and regret it. Like so, be sure you know
what you're praying for when you're praying. I don't know.
I just it made me sad, but yet it made

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my day to this lady was just so alone. But anyway,
you guys have a good day.

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
So I want to pray I play that because you know,
we look at what is it that we can do.
We can transcend all this evil and government at Washington especially,
We can't transcend it. And we can do that with
just simple tasks that are one on one and that's
the only way that we will ever transcend that evil.
And so I think that is the important thing. You know,

(01:51:12):
we look at this this national debate and you know,
the problems come down, the rot comes from the head down,
doesn't it. But the solutions are not going to be there.
And it's something that you know, each and every one
of us needs to be able to do. You know,
first we establish our relationship with God, as she was
talking about, listening to God's leading and then taking action.

(01:51:36):
And there's things that we can do at the individual level.
That's why, you know, politics you want to keep your
head up. You want to look and see what is
coming and see the different directions the types of tax
that are coming. But politics is not going to protect anybody.
A good example of that, again is this big battle
of releasing the information, which isn't going to get released anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
But we can.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
Transcend that evil and we have to do it at
the local level. Gavin Newsom maybe is becoming a Christian
nationalist right well that's kind of sarcasm, but he made
a speech at a press conference two weeks back and
again he was chiding Trump and blaming him for the

(01:52:22):
shutdown which is being done by the Democrats for the
insurance issue. And we'll take a look at that before
we run out of time here. I hope I'll move
this on quickly. But he said, I spend a little
time at a wonderful Jesuit university. If there's anything I
remember about my four years with a further cause is
that the New Testament Old Testament have one thing dominantly

(01:52:45):
in common. It's about food and serving those who are hungry.
Did you realize that? I guess that's the Jesuit take
on the Old New Testament. Sum it up. No, we
should help people, you know, we should meet them where
their need is. But it's about much more than that.
And so he said, it's not a suggestion.

Speaker 14 (01:53:08):
Yeah, he says Bread of Heaven. It's all about food.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
It's not about suggestion. The Old New Testament its core.
It's central as to what it is to align to
God's will. Period for a full stop. He said, this
is the guy who, more than anybody else, has pushed
this abomination of same sex mirage on people. He was

(01:53:31):
doing it as mayor of San Francisco, in defiance of
the law and in defiance of then Governor Schwarzenegger. At
the time, he was marrying people who were same sex,
defying God's law as well. He said, these guys need
to stop the bs in Washington. They're sitting there in
their prayer breakfasts. Maybe they've got an edited version of
Trump's Bible and they added that out all that stuff

(01:53:54):
cruelty as the policy, he said. And so for many years,
writes this person on Christian Post, the left of anxiously
warned about the rise of Christian nationalism as an extreme
threat to our republic. The problem with Christian nationalism isn't
with Christian participation in politics, but rather with a belief
that there should be Christian primacy in politics and the law,

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said David French.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
In The New York Times.

Speaker 3 (01:54:20):
But the reality is is that, as I said to
many times, politics is really downstream of religion. It's people
who are secular who are humanists, people who are people
like Gavin Newsom. They will be exercising their religion even
if they are secularists and atheists politics advocating for a

(01:54:44):
particular policy outcome based on their own faith are no
longer in vogue with most Democrats, who are increasingly secular,
except that they do have a religion, they do have
a worldview. And that's what we're talking about when we
talk about Christianity being the found foundation of America, and
it's what I talk about when I think of Christian nationalism.

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They say, people that embraces those values, that embrace those
world views. The problem is is that people like Gavin
Newsom and the Democrats, they have faith, They have unwavering
faith in government, and they want to treat government as
if it were God. But I want to get to
this insurance thing before we bring on our guests real quickly.

(01:55:28):
You know, we've had Trump talk about the fact that
they're going to fix Obamacare and we're going to give
the money to the people. Well, what exactly is the
plan that we're supposed to trust. They're very cagey about that.
And you know, when we talk about false narratives, and

(01:55:49):
this is one of the best examples of it. Healthcare
premiums have been skyrocketing for twenty two million Americans. You know,
it seems to always happen when the government decides it's
going to help somebody. We saw this happened with college tuition.
The more the government got involved, the more the government
subsidized college tuition to make it affordable, the more expensive
it became. And the same thing is happening now with insurance.

(01:56:13):
So Trump's pushed to send the federal assistance directly to
consumers rather than health insurance. But guess what, they don't
have any details. There is no plan. You want to
get the government out of healthcare is really what you
want to have. It's in there too much and that's
what's driving the costs up. And Obamacare has failed exactly
as people said it would, but they use that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
Always.

Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
Government failure is used as an excuse to increase more government.
So they're looking at price increases and they're looking at
the price increases and saying, well, now we need to
go up on the subsidies as well. Just consider this
enacted by the Biden administration in twenty twenty one. They
enhanced the premium subsidies that made Obamacare policy more affordable.

(01:57:02):
And they're saying, if you remove those Biden enhanced subsidies,
people are going to see their premiums go up one
hundred and fourteen percent on average. Well, that's just In
other words, their response is once their policies make the
prices go up because they have subsidized it, actually made

(01:57:22):
it more than doubles one hundred and fourteen percent. So
after they subsidize it and make the prices go up,
their answer is, well, now we need more subsidies, rather
than saying we made a mistake the first time around.
But consider this, A sixty year old couple with an
income of eighty five thousand dollars could have to pay
twenty thousand dollars more annually for coverage. I don't know,

(01:57:45):
they don't say what the total cost is, but they're
talking about that's about, you know, fifteen hundred bucks or
so more each month if they don't have those subsidies.
And so this was the fight that shut down the government.
And guess what the party has an answer to this.
This is the true result of Obamacare, the fact that
it more than doubled the cost in a decade. The

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Democrat's answer is, well, let's double down with the subsidies then,
And the Republicans don't have a plan to reform anything.
Two senators Republicans have jumped on Trump's declarations, sketching out
different ways of shifting federal funds to consumers. Both of
these senators Rick Scott and Florida and Bill Cassidy, the

(01:58:29):
guy who has become the vaccine cheerleader in Congress. Neither
of them because they both had had a lot of
involvement in the medical business, I should say, and it
was they really don't have a plan to start with.
In other words, the Trump administration, in spite of all
the bs that Trump has put out there, well we're

(01:58:50):
going to give money to people. He hasn't put forward
a plan. There's been two plans that have been put
forward by two Senators, Rick Scott, and they're very sketchy.
They don't have any details, just a general idea of
what they would like to do. Trump doesn't even have
that much of a general idea. So Rick Scott said,
we need to have some kind of health savings account
style accounts to be able to buy healthcare that people want.

(01:59:14):
He has not provided any details about his legislation. His
proposal does not seek to repeal Obamacare, but he wants
to fix it. Let me just say when he says
fix it, that doesn't mean repair, that means cement it
in place, keep this thing and that's really what they're
talking about. And then you look at Bill Cassidy at Louisiana.

(01:59:37):
He said that they would direct the funds that would
have to be spent on the enhanced subsidies into flexible
spinning accounts the policyholders could use to shop. Well, where's
the information, where's the competition? None of that stuff is there.
We empower patients to go find the best deal for
their dollar. The drives competition that lowers costs, said Cassidy.

(02:00:00):
But he would retain Obamacare. Again, that's going to be
the key thing. It's always a ratcheting effect, isn't it.
You know, why won't they again, like I said before,
one of the things that they could do in terms
of affordability, let us keep the money and spend the
money first before we send you the taxes. So make
it fully tax deductible, or better yet, make it a

(02:00:20):
tax credit. You do that for education as well. The
complex US healthcare system is not designed for patients to
shop for services, says this article. The consolidation in the
industry has decreased competition. Yeah, where does that consolidation come from?
You know, really, just as we were talking yesterday to

(02:00:41):
John Richardson. The FDA is anti competition. They shut down
any different approach, any novel approach, anything that is natural,
anything that is affordable. The FDA is there to shut
it down, to criminalize that. And while these guys like
Cassidy through everything they can to push big pharma solutions

(02:01:04):
quote unquote giving consumers more control, the funds could actually
put upward pressure on health care prices, as the Cato Institute,
since they'll have more money to spend on services. That, folks,
is exactly the mechanism of what caused college tuition to
go up. You give the students more money with subsidies,
with this stuff, and all of a sudden, now the

(02:01:26):
colleges realize that, and so they raise their prices. And
there's more money out there, so we will charge you more.
And this is why when the government subsidizes something, the
cost always goes up. And so they don't have a
solution to the healthcare issue. Is they shut the government down.
And again, you know, they created some problems for people

(02:01:50):
who are dependent on the government, dependent on the government
for air traffic control, dependent on the government. Some of
the people because they need to have the food the
government wants that control. You know, as I talk about
the coming Thanksgiving holiday, Sean Duffy says, so I'll say,
you know, we're now open again, but we still have
a shortage of people and so forth and so on.
They're not going to fix the fundamental problem of that.

(02:02:11):
They're not going to fix the fundamental problem of so
many people being on welfare because the government wants to
have you dependent on them. And they're not going to
fix the issues with healthcare either. This whole shutdown was
just a again, it was just the government playing their
partisan games with each other.

Speaker 2 (02:02:32):
But we're going to take a.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
Quick break and we're going to bring back our guests.
Wait a second, we had he he had a doctor's point. Okay,
we had our guests. Is canceled on us. So h
doctor Shivaya Doray will get him back on another time.
I wanted to talk to him because he's going to
be running for Congress, and I do I like not
so much. I mean, he runs for Congress and he's

(02:02:53):
running for senator. Should say he ran for president as well.
I like what he does because he used that to
get attention and then he sells people a grassroots solution
and that's really what I want to talk to him about.

Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (02:03:11):
Approach that he takes as they talk about Thanksgiving. This
article here from study finds is telling us that Thanksgiving
is going to cost the average American up to one
thousand dollars. It's like, what, I don't see how that
could possibly be the case. But you know, it is
interesting when we look at what has happened with food

(02:03:34):
we complain all the time about, and of course this
is not just the cost of the food. They've included
a lot of different things in this cost. But when
you look at a turkey for example, I mean, we
used to listen to Old Time Radio a lot with
the kids when we be traveling in the car taking
a trip, because actually I liked the characterization of the
voices they had. Some people had really, really good voices,

(02:03:54):
and it was interesting to go back and get a
glimpse into what society was like, let's say in the
four or something like that, as well as it wasn't
anything that you have to worry about the kids hearing.
And there's one episode I don't know if you remembered
in an outline, it's where they were going on on
about a turkey. It was such a big deal because
the turkey was like fifty sixty dollars at the time,

(02:04:17):
and you go back and you look at that something
that's fifty or sixty dollars back in the forties, that
is really expensive, and adjusted for inflation to today's dollars,
it's insane, but.

Speaker 2 (02:04:31):
It is.

Speaker 3 (02:04:32):
We see that turkeys have become extremely cheap, and of
course it's because of the mass production tactics that they've done,
which is exactly what we're talking about yesterday, the convenience
foods that are there, but it's also making the food
cheaper and has to make it cheaper. A lot of
these techniques that they would do for mass production are
really making the food very unsafe, and so that's one

(02:04:55):
aspect of it. It's not one thousand dollars for the
food if it kept up with inflation, and that might
have been the case. But the average person will spend
nine hundred and fifty two dollars on food, drinks, decorations,
travel and miscellaneous expenses. Never seen travel added before you.
And every year they will go in at holiday times
like Fourth of July, barbecue or something, and they'll total

(02:05:17):
up groceries that people have as part of that meal
for that holiday. Well, that's only a small portion of this.
What they said was that food would cost one hundred
and seventy five dollars per household another one hundred and
ten going towards beverages. By that, I think they're meaning
alcohol to be that expensive. Eighty three dollars on holiday decorations,

(02:05:39):
miscellaneous expenses like replacing a broken appliance.

Speaker 2 (02:05:43):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (02:05:44):
I mean this headline one thousand dollars for Thanksgiving dinner
is really a clickbait. Buying a new outfit for Thanksgiving
another two hundred ninety one dollars and travel expenses for
two hundred and ninety three dollars. So again, this is
not looking at the cost of turkey, even though the
pictures throughout the article are turkeys stuffed with dollar bills.

(02:06:07):
Part of the reason the price tag feels so high
is that Thanksgiving is now morphed into a multi day event.
There's not just full family get together, which fifty one
percent of people do, but household only dinners and friends
giving celebrations.

Speaker 14 (02:06:24):
So what nonsense? Thanksgaving is being erased by Christmas as
it consumes more and more of the year. Also, I
completely forgot to buy my new Thanksgiving outfit this year
to get on that running out of time.

Speaker 3 (02:06:42):
Yeah, that's right, and speaking of nonsense, cloud fair yet again,
as we know yesterday we had some issues, some of
our viewers had some issues. X was down, chat GPT
was down. Cloud Fair, interestingly enough, is actually there for
protection against cyber threats. And I guess in the last

(02:07:04):
couple of years we've seen we've seen it shut down
more websites than cyber threats have. They said that there
was not a cyber attack, but it was an internal
service degradation that shut down all these different websites. I
would just say that you know what we're seeing here,
and as we concentrate and complicate our infrastructure, that concentration

(02:07:27):
and complication equals and shittification, which are what Cory Doctor
wrote calls this as everything becomes more.

Speaker 2 (02:07:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:07:36):
Another thing about cloud flair is it's also another line
of attack for certain groups. If they can get your
website or moved from cloud Flare, it leaves you basically unprotected.
You then have to do all the cybersecurity yourself, and
it is incredibly difficult. So cloud Flair is not a
good website, They have deplatformed people, they have gone after

(02:07:56):
people website.

Speaker 6 (02:07:59):
You know, you know what I'm say talking about.

Speaker 15 (02:08:00):
There a service that you basically need to operate on
the web, and people can go to them and say, wow,
you're platforming.

Speaker 6 (02:08:07):
This kind of hate is kind of rhetoric.

Speaker 15 (02:08:10):
Yeah, that's right, and then boom you get knocked off
cloud Flare and then your life becomes infinitely more difficult
when trying to exist online.

Speaker 14 (02:08:19):
Well, I'm interested to see what alternatives there are to
cloud Flair. I'm sure there's something, because that's another big
part of the problem is that it's all being consolidated.
So yeah, if like that major outage that we had
just a couple of weeks ago, was one server on
Amazon's cloud service thing went down and that took out

(02:08:40):
half the Internet, it seemed it was the amount of
centralization of what was supposed to be a decentralized network
the Internet is pretty shocking.

Speaker 3 (02:08:51):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The centralization and the complication
of our infrastructure is basically a real damnoclets hanging over
our heads. And another one of these is AI. Again,
we've now seen Google has pulled down their AI chatbot
because it accused Marsha Blackburn of a crime and it

(02:09:14):
had absolutely no basis for it. She said, it's an
act of defamation produced and distributed by a Google owned
AI model. This is Senator Marshall Blackburn from Tennessee, she'll
probably be the next governor of Tennessee. And its AI
model that they call Jemma, falsely claimed that Blackburn had

(02:09:37):
been accused of rape. When asked if there was any
such allegation against her, the AI's answer wasn't simplely yes,
but it created an entire fabricated story. You know, we
saw this very early on with Jonathan Turley and he
wrote about it, and it had as part of a
by He looked it up and he asked for information

(02:09:58):
about himself, and it said that he had been accused
of sexual misconduct as he took he's a law professor,
as he took like a field trip or something with
his students to Alaska's. First of all, I don't do that. Secondly,
I've never been to Alaska. Thirdly, nobody has ever accused
me of sexual assault. Every detail about it was wrong,
but it was highly detailed. It imagined all of this

(02:10:20):
stuff and it's the same kind of stuff that you
see from these large language models that you see when
you're doing images. I mean, it's one of the things
that makes images interesting, you know, when you're doing video
or because it'll imagine a lot of interesting details that
it would take you a while to put in. But
you know, it's one thing when you're doing that in art.
It's another thing when you're talking about people's lives. What

(02:10:42):
it did was said during her nineteen eighty seven campaign
for Tennessee State senator. A state trooper quote alleged that
she pressured him to obtain prescription drugs for her, and
that the relationship involved non consensual acts. The compelling narrative
would have been enough to fool somebody who wasn't familiar

(02:11:03):
with AI's habit of hallucinating, but Blackburn claims that Jimma
also generated fake links to made up news articles to
back it all up, and if you checked them, if
you actually click on the links, they were all dead ends.
They didn't exist. She said, this is not a harmless
quote unquote hallucination. She said, it is an act of

(02:11:24):
defamation produced and distributed by Google owned AI model, and
she demanded that Google shut it down until you can
control it. And since she has a very powerful senator,
that's exactly what they did. That's not going to happen
with you and I, but they did it for her.
They pulled the plug. They argued that the Chima model
was intended to be used by developers and was never

(02:11:46):
intended to be a consumer tool or a model, so
they yanked it from AI Studio. Google also rebuffed Blackburn's
claims that It's AI has exhibited a pattern of bias
against conservative figures, admitting to the far larger problem of
hallucinations being inherent to the large language model technology itself.

(02:12:07):
What do you know about AI studio Lance.

Speaker 14 (02:12:10):
It's just a place where Google has a bunch of
different ais that.

Speaker 3 (02:12:14):
You can Is it really targeted to developers or is
it out something's out there for the public.

Speaker 14 (02:12:19):
I mean it's out there for the public. You just
log onto it on any browser that is signed into
a Gmail account, which is almost everyone.

Speaker 2 (02:12:28):
Yeah, so they're lying about that as well.

Speaker 14 (02:12:29):
Right, it's restricted to only Gmail account holders.

Speaker 2 (02:12:33):
Oh, there you go. If you've got a Gmail account,
you are obviously a developer.

Speaker 3 (02:12:39):
And the other thing that we've seen from Google is
that they were using AI to search people's emails. You know,
if you've got a Gmail account, they'll use it to
search that. So they want everybody to have a Gmail account.
They'll entice you by saying, well, if you get that,
you've got access to some of our AI art tools,
But then they'll start searching all of your your mail

(02:13:01):
email by AI. Her complaints prefigure enormous legal quagmires in
the future, the seeds of which are being planted as
we speak. You know, this is another issue for AI
and the financial aspect of it, even if you don't
use AI, and what's going to happen when that AI
bubble bursts. Well, this summer, a Minnesota solar firm sued

(02:13:25):
Google for defamation after the search engine's giant notoriously shoddy
AI overviews falsely claimed that the business was being investigated
by regulators and had been accused of deceptive business practices,
backing these claims again with bogus citations. We've seen people
use lawyers who used it to put together case briefs,

(02:13:47):
and it fabricates cases that don't exist and other things
like that. So it comes after people with bogus allegations
and references articles that don't exist the rest of this
Reporting from The New York Times said that the suit
is one of at least six defamation cases filed in
the US over content generated by AI models. And so

(02:14:12):
we're going to take a quick break and when we
come back, we're going to take a look at some
more tech issues that are there. We've got a comment
and a contribution from mad Mems. Thank you very much
and says check email. So I appreciate that. I will
look it up see if we can find that butt it.
I'll have to do that after the show. And the

(02:14:35):
Five Tyrants seventeen seventy six said DK Baron Trump is
worth one hundred and fifty million dollars. He's made fifty
million since his daddy took off his nine months ago.
He's nineteen year ars old. How did he do that
so fast? I'm sure that has nothing to do with
his daddy being president, don't you think, I mean, this
is not a family influence that he's cashing in on

(02:14:58):
at all.

Speaker 14 (02:14:58):
I mean Trump specifically said that he's not involved in
the family business. That's just Baron Trump's business acumen as
a nineteen year old genius.

Speaker 2 (02:15:07):
That's right, Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 14 (02:15:09):
He just happened to be, you know, working with the
same people at Trump has in the White House.

Speaker 3 (02:15:14):
And if you believe that he's got something even better
than a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you, he's got
a used casino that he could sell you as well.

Speaker 2 (02:15:22):
Had some comments, Yeah, go ahead, you got some.

Speaker 6 (02:15:25):
Comments, Travis, let me check in fact I do.

Speaker 15 (02:15:31):
Okay, we got this about Mohammad beIN Salmon Nimbru twenty
twenty nine.

Speaker 6 (02:15:34):
Caligula.

Speaker 15 (02:15:35):
Trump constantly demonstrates his love. We're sleeping with the enemies
of the United States. Yeah, that's our good friend. Mohammad
ben Solomon done so much for the United States. I,
for one, remember the time when I was broken down
on the side of the highway and past me drove
a motorcade and Muhammad bin Salmon stopped and he hopped out.

Speaker 6 (02:15:54):
He changed my tire for me. He was a good guy.

Speaker 15 (02:15:56):
He's done so much for me personally, and I'm sure
for all of you as well. The Syrian girl. So
the most offensive thing in that interview was the smile
on the air base when the murder was brought up
to him.

Speaker 6 (02:16:07):
Just yeah, that happenedn't now?

Speaker 2 (02:16:10):
Yeah, you know, things happen.

Speaker 15 (02:16:11):
Yeah, sometimes you just have to chop a guy up
and put his pieces into suitcases.

Speaker 2 (02:16:17):
That was such a mafia comment, wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (02:16:18):
Ya.

Speaker 2 (02:16:19):
Oh, you know, things happen. It happened with this.

Speaker 3 (02:16:23):
It'd be a shame if something happened to some of
you reporters, wouldn't it. It's a very nice outlet you
got there. I'd hate to see anything happen to it.

Speaker 19 (02:16:31):
Yeah, a bibi, my friend, my friend, Habibi. This is
not the line of the questioning you wish to pursue
the five tyrant seventeen seventy six. Oh, that's the one
you read about Baron Trump. Well that's the comments we
have right now.

Speaker 3 (02:16:44):
Yeah, so I'm says that saund East or the fuel
Israelis are the propaganda wing, America is the muscle. Yeah,
it is a I guess we got in accord. We've
reached the chord and all that stuff. We're going to
take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 2 (02:19:10):
Well, welcome back.

Speaker 3 (02:19:11):
I mentioned this briefly yesterday, the fact that Reason magazine
has done several articles about in praise of driverless cars,
and I think they've really lost the plot here, I mean,
the key thing they try to make it. They say, well,
you know, we need to have more or not less
driverless cars. These things are so incredibly safe. The demand

(02:19:33):
for self driving services like Waymo grows, and so does
the evidence of their safety. Well, I've not seen that evidence,
as a matter of fact, and I would like, if
you want to compare it to human drivers, pull out
all the people who were drunk when they were driving.
Those people are still going to be on the road,
by the way, even if you've got self driving cars.

(02:19:56):
Except that where we know this is going. And Eric
Peters has talked to this forever. You know, as long
as he and I have been talking, we've been talking
about the crony capitalism of Elon Musk, and we've been
talking about self driving and.

Speaker 2 (02:20:09):
What the real issue is with that.

Speaker 3 (02:20:11):
And as he pointed out, you know, we've got autopilot
on planes, but in order for that to work, you've
got to have the air traffic controllers keeping these planes
way far away from each other. And in the same way,
you're going to have to have no human drivers. You
can't have that human element there, especially intoxicated drivers or

(02:20:32):
something like that. Now you can't have that. If you're
going to have the self driving cars, they're going to
have to be there on their own. They're going to
have to have full situational awareness and control of each
and everything or it's not going to work. And the
take that reason has here is that these are people

(02:20:53):
who are just ludites. The new ludites want to pump
the brakes on driverless cars. Then innovation comes those who
fear it. They say, no, here's the real issue. It's
about freedom, not safety. And it really bothers me to
see libertarians selling a false safety that is out there.

(02:21:16):
The illusion of safety has always used. It's never usually
when you sacrifice your liberty, you're sacrificing, as Benjamin Franklin said,
for the promise of safety, not for the reality of safety.
And even if what you were giving it up for
was safety initially, as I've said many times, if you

(02:21:37):
become a slave, and to the extent that you give
up your liberty piece by piece, slicing off little bits
of it. Each time you slice off your liberty, you
become more of a slave. And slaves are never safe,
so you're never going to get that slave safety. But
as Jefferson said, he prefers dangerous liberty to peaceful slavery,

(02:22:00):
for dangerous driving the car myself to the promise of
peaceful safety by a self driven car. The problem is,
i said many times, so many doctrinaire libertarians and libertarian
or conservative think tanks think that business can do no wrong,
government can do no right, and the liberals think that

(02:22:23):
government can do no wrong and business can do nothing right.
And what both of them miss is the fact that
it is a uniparty right in the sense that business,
big business and government have merged into a kind of
fascist symbiotic relationship that is here, and they just completely

(02:22:43):
missed the bigger picture.

Speaker 2 (02:22:45):
They said, The reality is, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 15 (02:22:47):
Any group that fails to realize, you know, the nature
of humanity, the fallen sin nature of humanity, will never
understand why these things happen.

Speaker 2 (02:22:57):
That's right.

Speaker 15 (02:22:58):
Any system, no matter who makes it, it can be
the most well intentioned, the most thoughtful person on the planet.
Eventually they'll be dead or it will pass on to
someone else who may not have those same intentions. And
since human nature is fallen, it will fall as well.
Everything built by human hands will eventually corrode, degrade, decay.

(02:23:21):
And you have to continually fight and maintain these fight
against the corruption, to maintain these systems. If you do
not do that, if you aren't continually striving to make
the system better, it will automatically get worse. You can
never rest on your laurels. You can never sit here
and say we have built the perfect system. Our system
of government is flawless, it works well, I'm checking out.

(02:23:45):
If you want a good system, you have to sit
there and continuously sedulously maintain it, monitor it, look at it,
and make sure that the people who are in charge
are doing what they're supposed.

Speaker 6 (02:23:58):
To be doing. Because, as I said, human nature is fallen.

Speaker 3 (02:24:01):
You can't put it on an autopilot like a way moment,
you know, And the founders understood that as well. They
because they came at government from the understanding that we
were creatures of God, and that meant that we all
had certain inaliable rights. And by the way, that's all
persons not citizens. You know, when we look at the
different bill rights and other things like that do process.

(02:24:24):
That means anybody that's within the jurisdiction of the government
needs to be treated as someone who is created by
God in his image, not just simply the citizens that
are there, but they also understood as you point out,
as Madison said, you know, because we're not angels, we
need to have government. But because the government's going to
be consisting of human beings, we have to really keep

(02:24:47):
an eye on them. Who watches the watchers type of thing,
And as Jefferson point out, we have to constantly be
reforming it. We're going to have to have more revolutions
to as it gets off course, you constantly have to
course correct it. It's not an autopilot thing. And just
by producing a paper document like the Constitution, it's not
self enforcing. And if we don't require these people to

(02:25:09):
follow basic moral and ethical principles, we're going to have
an immoral, unethical government, which is what we have.

Speaker 15 (02:25:16):
As they say, your land is always effectively whatever the
people will tolerate.

Speaker 2 (02:25:20):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 3 (02:25:22):
So they've got their statistics in this article they try
to make excuses for waymo. They don't talk about the
situations where they all went to one intersection and froze.
They don't talk about how they drive so slowly that
you could set an open cup of coffee on the
dashboard and not have it spilled. They don't talk about
the all those different aspects and how it freezes, for example,

(02:25:46):
at a four way stop, because it doesn't it can't
really figure out what the humans are going to do.
You know, we can kind of glance over and we
can kind of get a read on what somebody is
going to do at a four way stop, but it
is hesitant, and that just freezes, and then the people
behind it get outraged and they go zooming around it,
and that's when accidents happen. That's why I say you're

(02:26:08):
gonna have to take the people out of the equation completely.
Otherwise they can't really navigate things like four way stops,
and it's going to cause rage with.

Speaker 15 (02:26:17):
The driver's automaton cannot comprehend free will, and as such
cannot comprehend the human nature.

Speaker 2 (02:26:25):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (02:26:26):
So you know, when you look at this, they're trying
to walk back some kind of famous cases here they
had a cat that was run over by Weimo, and
they said, well, it was just a Badega cat. It
really didn't really belong to anybody, so it really wasn't
very important. And they made a big deal of the
fact that it hit one of these autonomous food delivery things, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:26:47):
A little R two D two that was delivering food.

Speaker 6 (02:26:50):
More robot on robot violence, that's right.

Speaker 2 (02:26:54):
Sad to see they got our two.

Speaker 3 (02:26:58):
So the reality is that human drivers are far more
likely to be involved in harmful accidents than driverless vehicles are,
says Reason, and they give some statistics which I seriously question.
Ninety one percent fewer serious injuries, ninety two percent, fewer
pedestrian crashes with injuries, seventy nine percent, fewer crashes resulting
in air bag deployment. Well, haven't even put these things

(02:27:22):
on the interstate, so that's a bogus reference there.

Speaker 15 (02:27:26):
I also have to question. Now, I'm assuming Reason isn't
being too dishonest. I'm assuming they've adjusted it for scale.
They've looked at it and said, well, there's orders of
magnitude more human drivers, and as such, you are just
going to have far more accidents there as opposed to
just putting in the raw numbers and going, look, you know,
the autonomous vehicles have only had a few instances of
accidents when you know there's only ae who knows how

(02:27:49):
many thousands as opposed to the hundreds of thousands of
people driving every day. So I assume they're being at
least good faith with those numbers, right, Yeah.

Speaker 14 (02:27:58):
I think I've seen where they play games with these numbers,
is that they'll have all accidents attributed to the person
that hit or was hit by the car, rather than
say that like the total number of accents that are
involved in, but rather the number of accidents that they

(02:28:19):
claim it caused when it's you know, driving super cautiously
and that amount of hesitation itself can cause an accident
even if they aren't legally liable.

Speaker 3 (02:28:30):
Mm hmmm, Yeah, I think you're going to do an
Apple apple comparison. You need to look at how many
accidents have and injuries have people had when humans are
driving golf carts. Compare that to these things, because that's
the real Apple to Apple comparison. For example, one of
the things that they're talking about here is the delivery

(02:28:50):
robot I mentioned colliding with a robo taxi at about
four miles per hour.

Speaker 2 (02:28:54):
See, this is a big issue, but it also.

Speaker 3 (02:28:57):
Tells you how these things drive and also tells one
of the reasons why they're not having that many accidents.
Do you really want to have to drive around at
four miles per hour?

Speaker 2 (02:29:06):
You know?

Speaker 3 (02:29:07):
That is and yet they say the slow approval of
self driving cars is costing lives.

Speaker 2 (02:29:14):
Yeah, that's right. It's corporate cheerleaders that are out there.

Speaker 14 (02:29:17):
Yeah, it's how many of these accidents was because of
a Weymo car or was with a Weymo car. It's
sort of the opposite of the games they played with
the COVID vaccines.

Speaker 2 (02:29:30):
Yeah, it is very concerning.

Speaker 3 (02:29:32):
But the luxury electric vehicle, you know, they want to say, well,
we need to have a marketplace, don't we. Well, you know,
the issue is is that the marketplace, even though it
is heavily heavily subsidized, like the luxury electric vehicle, the
marketplace is speaking. And the reason magazine the libertarians don't

(02:29:52):
want to listen to the marketplace. You know, why shouldn't
we be allowed to have the cars that we choose.
Why should it be forced down our throats? And this
is an issue above and beyond the self driving stuff.
But I think that the self driving thing was primarily
at the beginning, it was a way for Elon Musk
to add a razzle dazzle to the anodyne golf carts

(02:30:16):
that he was selling and say, you have their self
driving it's the future, and all the rest of this
stuff it's the future. If the government controls all of
your movement, that's the future. And that's why the very
first competition that DARPA ran was for self driving vehicles.
But now that they're taking away the subsidies, the luxury
electric vehicle is in trouble. Reason needs to look at

(02:30:39):
the marketplace and say, why can't we choose what kind
of cars we drive? And why when people are allowed
to make these choices, even if the government pays them
to make this choice of electric vehicle, people are not
choosing that. Sales of the expensive battery powered cars like
the Ford F one to fifty Lightning have stalled, forcing
autumn As to slow production and to offer more affordable vehicles.

(02:31:04):
Its future is in doubt. For it stopped making the
truck whose prices start at fifty five thousand dollars and
can rise to more than eighty five thousand dollars for
premium versions with added features, and it won't say when
or if production will restart for many years. Many of
the electric vehicles that Americans bought were luxury models that
typically sell for more than eighty thousand dollars Hummers Porsches.

(02:31:28):
When the subsidy went away, the high dollar vehicles really
began to slow down. And it's not even just that.
If you look at BYD which is the Chinese electric
vehicle company, they are much much cheaper and they've got
some cheap models. It's just people are not choosing to
have this technology because it's not mature enough to be

(02:31:50):
practical yet, and the governments everywhere are trying to force this.
So even the cheap Chinese evs are having a big issue.
The chief executive Volkswagen said in a conference call, we
have seen a clear drop in demand for the exclusive
battery electric cars and we're taking that into account. The

(02:32:12):
vice president of Edmunds, which does research on cars, of course,
said a lot of people thought that the high end
luxury EV segment was going to be sustainable and that
it would continue to grow, but with all the changes
that have come into the industry. It's just not as
big as we thought. I guess my big question is

(02:32:32):
will they be able to recover? You know, I look
at the analogy of what is happening with the d
industrialization of the West, and the first place that that
hits is with the automobiles with steel and with other
things like that because of power and because that's being
shut down, And I just kind of wonder, it's kind
of like the COVID lockdown, this de industrialization, and when

(02:32:54):
you look at how it impacted the education of a
lot of kids who were lying on schools. I wonder
how long it's going to take the industrial part of
Europe and American to recover from this forced lockdown by
the globe's based on climate nonsense. How long is it

(02:33:17):
going to take to recover from that. Just as we
saw the farms being damaged by Trump's lockdowns, they couldn't
get product to market in the format that they were
selling it, so they were just basically destroying the food
at the farm while there was nothing on the shelves
of the grocery stores. This is what happens when government
gets involved. And we'll just have to see if this

(02:33:38):
is a fatal thing, or if this is some kind
of a hit that it's just going to take a
long time to recoup from. A four deal in Arizona
said about seventy five percent of electric models that he
was selling were leased. He said, but without a strong
least proposition proposition on these vehicles, they become very much
on the high end from the affordability standpoint. Mercedes is

(02:34:00):
offering discounts of ten thousand dollars or more on some
electric models, and as much as fifty thousand dollars discount
on a Mayback, which has a starting price of one
hundred and eighty thousand dollars. They can't sell these things
even to the uber rich. It truly is amazing. But
we're going to take a quick break, folks, and we

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will be right back.

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Speaker 3 (02:37:19):
Well, as I mentioned earlier in the program, we got
Mike Pompeo is now advising a Ukrainian weapons company that
is at the center of a massive corruption scandal within
the company. He's now figured out a way to give
them classes on how to light sheet and steal, just
like he did at the CIA. He is advising a

(02:37:39):
heavily scrutinized Ukrainian defense firm called Firepoint, which will allow
him to benefit directly from Western military aid to Ukraine,
the war that he has advocated very heavily for more
and more spending. And this is yet another example of
the evolving door for these military industrial complex times quickly

(02:38:00):
rising to prominence in wartime. This company, Firepoint, is currently
under scrutiny for alleged price gouging practices. No really, I
guess that would be the way they advise them to operate.
That's why the military industrial complex operates here in the US,
right why not do it over there? And for its
ties to a Zelenski associate being investigated for corruption charges.

(02:38:24):
Critics also charged that the company has an unfair monopoly
over the drone market, earning about a billion dollars this year.
Firepoint is now constructing a factory in Denmark. A responsible
state craft reported last summer that Pompeo stood to benefit
from the Trump peace plan that he proposed in the

(02:38:44):
Wall Street Journal, which called for the Ukraine to join
the EU for a five hundred billion dollar lend lease
program for Ukraine to buy US weapons which he could
sell and profit from. He is also director at a
prominent Ukrainian telecom company. You know, this is again influence pedaling,

(02:39:07):
same kind of stuff that we softened Biden administration. Isn't
an interesting how much they are alike Pompeo would have
stood to gain from the economic benefits realized through the Ukraine.
And again, this is why we have these wars in
the first place. It is simply because of these types

(02:39:27):
of reasons. The graft scandal has weakened Zelensky. So it's
the French paper Lamond Zelensky is scrambling to secure support
from Western backers after being weakened by a one hundred
million dollar corruption scandal involving a close ally, the same
guy that's there. These people are just as corrupt as

(02:39:49):
they can be. It's no different than the Biden administration
and Hunter being put on as a director of an
energy company or whatever it was, I mean, Barisma, And
it's just you know, they even run the same grifts,
the Republicans and Democrats. But we're supposed to believe that
they're completely different, right, The revelations of widespread corruption in

(02:40:12):
Kiev could provide significant arguments for European politicians advocating for
reduced aid to Ukraine. The anti corruption probe by Ukraine's
Western back National Anti Corruption Bureau uncovered in a lleg
one hundred million dollar investment scheme involving state owned nuclear
energy from inner Goetom. Investigators have linked the company to

(02:40:36):
this same guy, timur Mindich, a close associate and former
business partner of Zelensky. So this is a different company,
but the same guy because he's involved in a nuclear
energy firm as well as the military industrial complex, again
looking very much like America. Right, France has demanded that

(02:40:57):
Ukraine engage in decisive fight again corruption as Lensky arrived
in Paris to seek military support from Macron on Monday,
and of course his wife loved to shop in Paris.
She was famous for spending fifty thousand dollars in just
an hour shopping in Paris. I wonder how they fit

(02:41:17):
all that stuff in the car. Once you have an
eighteen wheeler that they backed up to the place, and
she's not buying in bulk. It's the stuff that she
gets is so incredibly overpriced, you know, four thousand dollars
purses and all this kind of stuff. It does that up,
you know when you pretty quickly when you do that.
So this, folks, is what our money is going for.

(02:41:40):
Even Bill Gates said that Ukraine was the most corrupt
country on earth. That explains one of the reasons why
we are there and why we have our politicians who
always talk about national security. They always want to get
involved in these wars because then when the bolts start flying,
people aren't really paying attention. Who's grabbing the cash and running.

(02:42:02):
That's another example of this what we see that, you know,
while we're talking about war. Let's take a look at
Trump's policy towards Latin America. And of course it is
the big stick policy. Completely different than the way that
Teddy Roosevelt said, you said, you walk softly, but carry

(02:42:23):
a big stick. Trump's approach is to scream at people
and hit them in the face with a stick. And
so that's what we're looking.

Speaker 6 (02:42:33):
At, swagger obnoxiously.

Speaker 14 (02:42:36):
And then checking out at the first sign of any resistance.

Speaker 3 (02:42:39):
Yes, yes, but the family of a fisherman who has
been killed in the US military strike saying it just
wants to have justice. And this is the incident that
caused a blow up with the Columbian president calling out Trump.
And remember Trump say, all right, no more subsidies for
you guys because you produce. Well, really, we've known that

(02:43:02):
for a long time. Why were you giving them subsidies.
The guy who was killed is Alejandro Carranza, a Colombian
fisherman who his family said had long plied the Caribbean
in search of Marlon and tuna. He called his teenage
daughter and told her he was going fishing, and he
said he'd be back in a few days. The day
after he left, his family, fellow fishermen, and Columbia's president

(02:43:26):
say that he was killed in the US military strike
on his boat. The fur about what had happened to
him has ignited a feud over the US military built
up in the Caribbean and the legality of the deadly
attacks on nearly twenty vessels since September. Again, if we
have a situation where no evidence is presented and there

(02:43:49):
is no due process, they don't pull over the boats
and find drugs on it. And as I said before,
even if they did that, it would still be a
violation of US international law to then line the people
up on the boat and machine gun him to death. Right,
But the Trump administration just goes directly to that last
illegal action without looking to see if they even have

(02:44:10):
any drugs. The attacks have enraged the leader of Columbia, Petro,
who accused the US of murdering Caronza in one attack.
Trump responded by imposing sanctions on Petro and his family
and moving to slash aid to the country. This week,
Columbia suspended intelligence sharing with the US until the Trump

(02:44:32):
administration stops. It strikes Well, a secret US memo again
national securities. Not to anybody, I've got this secret memo
here has linked Venezuela to a chemical weapons threat. Well,
I tell you you know, history doesn't repeat itself, but
it sure does rhyme, doesn't it. Here we are back

(02:44:53):
to weapons of mass destruction and lies about weapons of
mass destruction. This particular time. The the lie involves saying, well,
they're doing fentanyl, which they're not doing. We've already established
that that's been known from the very beginning. Nobody has
ever in the past accused Venezuela of manufacturing or trafficking
in fentanyl that's coming from China, it's coming from Mexico.

(02:45:17):
But they're saying no, they're making feninol, which they're not.
And then they're calling fentanyl a potential chemical weapon. This
is in a classified Justice Department briefing authorizing the strikes
on these boats. So again secret, no debate, no second guessing.

(02:45:37):
There'll be no declaration of war either. You're not even
allowed to see what they say is the issue, right?
Isn't that interesting how that works? You say this is
in terms of national security, and we're going to just
get rid of the Constitution.

Speaker 14 (02:45:53):
The whole history repeating itself. It reminds me of the
guest you had on while back who was talking about Vietnam,
and one sort of famous sniper among the Vietnamese was
a girl that saw her father just shot randomly by
Americans and then said, Okay, now I hate Americans. I'm

(02:46:13):
going to kill as many Americans as I can. It's
just creating enemies. Obviously, there is no chemical weapons thread
from Venezuela, but you're going to start creating people in
Venezuela that want to destroy America.

Speaker 3 (02:46:27):
Oh yeah, you might create people who will do attacks on.

Speaker 14 (02:46:30):
Us, which is exactly what they want.

Speaker 3 (02:46:32):
Yeah, and I think that the whole issue about this war.
I think the timing is very dependent on when it
is politically expedient because there is no threat for Venezuela.
So the whole reason that they're going to do this,
you know, when Trump kicks off this war, which inevitably
he will do, it will be too politically expeditious for him.

(02:46:53):
It'll be another wag the dog thing. And they've now
come up with a name for it. We had Warpete
telling us that he's going to call this Operation Southern Spear.
Isn't it interesting that whenever they go to war they
always call it Operation you know something or the other.
That was what Operation warp Speed was. It was going
to war with you and me and all Americans. So

(02:47:17):
Warpete says, this mission defends our homeland, It removes narco
terrass from our hemisphere, and it secures our homeland from
the drugs that are killing our people. Yeah right, Every
single aspect of that is a lie.

Speaker 2 (02:47:32):
Isn't it amazing?

Speaker 3 (02:47:33):
You know, you got people like Mike Johnson and war
Pete who wear their Christianity on their sleeve, or in
the case of Warpeat, they tattoo it on their arm,
and they are such a reproach to the name of Christ.
And really, when you look at you will not bear
the Lord's name in vain. It's not really talking about
the kind of stuff that people like a pen and teller,

(02:47:56):
you know. When he talked about that, he said, I
don't like to use the F word because it just
makes you sound stife. But people use that for every
aspect of speech. They use it for an adjective, an anverb, whatever.
And he goes, but I love to blaspheme the name
of Christ because I don't believe in him. That's really
not what it's talking about. It's talking about people who
are just like you know, talk about an image bear

(02:48:18):
or whatever. This is a name bearer. You call yourself
a follower of Christ, and you do these kinds of things.
It's just I got to say, not, this is not
what Christianity is. These people are not the face of Christianity.
They're the face of hypocrisy and blasphemy. Chemical weapons angle

(02:48:38):
is unlikely to be very convincing to congressional leaders, much
less to the American public, says zero Hedge. But again,
the policy is to scream at people and hit him
in the head with a big stick. Venezuela has long
been a transit route for Columbian cocaine, but there's no
evidence that it produces a traffic s fentanyl, which is

(02:48:59):
typically Mexico smuggled over land. It is an incredible stretch,
said a former legal advisor to the State Department. And
we all know that fentinyl as a chemical weapon. Several
years going back, the single biggest source of the world's
fentinyl trade has consistently been identified as China and Mexico.

(02:49:23):
It's impossible to know, and it hasn't been disclosed where
there any of these some twenty boats have been blown
up by the military, have been loaded with fentanyl or
in what quantities or whatever they have. Right, we don't
know is blown up. We don't look, we don't do
an inspection, we don't do any legal due process. So

(02:49:46):
the Trump doctrine for Latin America is chaos, right santi
war and folks. That is his doctrine for America as well,
chaos and infighting, divide and concer. Trump is the king
of chaos. Under Trump, the US is unapologetically an empire

(02:50:09):
operating without pretense. That is what has changed the unapologetic
aspect of it, the idea that these things that they
were always didn't want you to see, that they tried
to hide from you, that they would deny. He does
it openly. International law is for losers. A newly minted
war department deploying the most lethal killing machine in history

(02:50:32):
need not hide behind the sham of promoting democracy anymore.
Recall that in twenty twenty three, Trump boasted, when I
left Venezuela was ready to collapse. We would have taken
it over. We would have gotten all that oil.

Speaker 2 (02:50:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:50:46):
It's the same type of thing he said about Syria
as well, we should take the oil, and they were
taking the oil, you know, as part of this ongoing
war before they overthrew the government. You had American soldiers
that were stationed there that were stealing the oil. And
you would have these reports in the press and they'd say, well,
you know such and such a there's rockets that hit
and you've had American soldiers in Syria that have been

(02:51:10):
killed or injured because of these rockets. What are we
doing in Syria? Oh, that's right, we're stealing the oil.
We become a giant pirate empire. Really, so this is
really about Trump's mission is not about being restrained by
respect for sovereignty. Venezuela, with our oil under its soil,

(02:51:33):
is now in the crosshairs of the Empire. Not only
does Venezuela possess the largest petroleum reserves, but it also
has major gold, cobalt box site and nickel deposits. It
would be simplistic to think that it is driven only
by natural economic motives. However, leverage over energy flows is

(02:51:54):
central to maintaining global influence. This is what we saw
in Syria as well. You know, Syria had some oil,
it wasn't that large. The primary oil issue in Syria
was a pipeline from our Arab allies that we wanted
to have run across there instead of the pipeline coming
from Russia. And so that was what that fight was about.

(02:52:16):
It's about energy flows. Most callingly, Venezuela nationalized its oil
instead of gifting it to private entrepreneurs. So this is
Venezuela has got a partnership for defense with China and
with Russia and with Iran, and so many conservatives will say, well,

(02:52:37):
that's reason enough to go destroy them, But they might
want to rethink that in twenty fifteen, Obama codified what
economist Jeffrey Sachs calls a remarkable legal fiction. And he's
not talking about the Paris Climate Accord. That was also
twenty fifteen. That was when John Kerry said, I and

(02:52:59):
Obama have self ratified this treaty. It should never have
been treated as anything legitimate. It was always a fiction.
But this is a different fiction about Venezuela. Obama's executive
order designated Venezuela as an extraordinary threat to US national security.
It has been renewed by each succeeding president. And this

(02:53:22):
executive order is really an implicit recognition of Venezuela's Bulvarian
Revolution as a counter hegemonic alternative challenging Washington's world order.
The FP reports tensions between Washington and Caracus have dramatically risen,
as if the one sided aggression were a tit for tat. Venezuela, however,

(02:53:43):
is seeking peace, but it has a gun held to
its head. Reiders blames the victim, claiming that the Venezuelan
government is quote planning to sow chaos in the event
of a US air or ground attack. How dare them
defend themselves, same kind of rhetoric that we see in
terms of Israel and Gaza. How dare them defend themselves

(02:54:05):
from attack? Why we have to step this up? In fact,
Maduro has pledged prolonged resistance to Washington's unprovoked assaults rather
than merely conceding defeat. So far, the death toll from
US strikes on the small boats off Venezuela exceeds seventy
five and continues to rise, but not an ounce of

(02:54:28):
narcotics has been confiscated. In contrast, Venezuela has seized sixty
four tons of drugs this year without killing anyone. Russian
Four Ministers Ministries Maria Zakarova said, now that the US
has suddenly remembered, at this historic moment that drugs are evil,

(02:54:49):
perhaps it's worth it for the US to go after
the criminals within its own elite, because it's the CIA
that created crack cocaine out of Central America, and it
was the American government that was escalating the production of
opioids out of Afghanistan while we occupied that. Yeah, if

(02:55:10):
you want to look at the drug war, I think
we has met the enemy, and the enemy is US
and a breathtaking understatement. The Washington Post allowed the breadth
of firepower would seem excessive for drug interdiction what is
glowingly described as a quote stunning military presence. Yeah, you

(02:55:31):
can see there's not too much pushback against this.

Speaker 2 (02:55:33):
War, is there.

Speaker 3 (02:55:34):
Venezuela is now on maximum military alert, with threatening flotilla
off of its course of its coast and some fifteen
thousand US troops standing by. Millions of Venezuelans have joined
the militia. The populace says, united around its Chavista leadership. See,
it's going to blow back on us. That's what always happens, right,

(02:55:56):
if you would not attack these guys, actually, somebody say,
you know, we're kind of tired of being poor. Maybe
we should try something other than Hugo Chavez and Madua.
Maybe we should try something other than socialism and communism.
But when you attack them, basically they're going to defend
their home.

Speaker 14 (02:56:16):
Far right will cause people to become more codified as
supportive of these regimes that haven't worked at all, have
been extremely oppressive for them. Because your wartime presidents are
always popular. The regime that's fighting the American imperialists is
going to be popular regardless of what it's done to

(02:56:36):
its own people.

Speaker 3 (02:56:37):
Yes, that's right. And of course the person that they
have chosen, that, you know, the US puppet that they
would like to put into place. She just won the
Nobel Peace Prize, Maria Karina Machado, and she is the
designated leader that the US would like to see in place.

(02:56:57):
She is calling for a military invasion of her own country.
How's that going to work out for her? This is insane.
And not only that, but she actually has gone bonkers.
She said there is absolutely no doubt that Maduro rigged
the twenty twenty election against Trump. So you can kind

(02:57:19):
of tell where this lady is coming from, and I
think all the people in Venezuela can see it as well.
This is another example of how it's going to backfire
against them. This is going to be the politics that's
going to backfire against them. The Washington Post now finds
that the Trump administration's approach is illegal. Really, the UN
experts warned that these unprovoked lethal attacks against vessels at

(02:57:40):
sea amount to international crimes. I look at this, I
just can't believe that the UN and the Washington Posts
ever get anything right.

Speaker 2 (02:57:51):
But this is pretty hard.

Speaker 3 (02:57:52):
To miss how badly this is set up, how stupidly,
foolishly and illegally it's being done. So what is new
is that the US administration is overtly flaunting supposedly covert machinations,
saying out, we've got the CIA scoping this thing out.

(02:58:12):
Usually they have the shame to not say that. Those
One of the jokes that Deve Chappelle made about Donald Trump,
he said, these other guys are then they're scheming about
things that they can do. He'll come out and he'll
tell you, you know, they're going to do this, this, and
this and there. And then he said, rather than.

Speaker 2 (02:58:28):
Stop them, he'll go back in there and join them.

Speaker 3 (02:58:30):
And that's what we have seen. The Wall Street Journal
says nobody in the Trump administration seems prepared to ask
the hard questions about what happens if they do destabilize
Venezuela in regime. But if they fail to topple it, Oh,
that could never happen, right, that didn't happen in Iraq
or Afghanistan or in these other places. So again, what

(02:58:54):
does boots on the ground mean. It's really going to
mean troops in the ground owned casualties. This is Latin
America under Trump's Donroe doctrine, as some people called it.
So that Monroe, it's Donroe. So yeah, he is being
presented with options and he's saying, well, I haven't made

(02:59:17):
up my mind yet. That's one of the most damning
statements I've heard. Going to war isn't about one individual
making up his mind about what he's going to do
when he's going to do it. But that's what this is,
plasma stream. Thank you for the tip. He said. Drugs
have been winning the war on drugs for about fifty
years so far, fifty four years. I might put a

(02:59:37):
one hundred quid on polymarket to predict that the winner
of the next round is going to be drugs. Yeah,
that's right. Citizen of America, KAKA says, what do you
think it cost us to blow up each of those
little fishing dinghies? About a million dollars?

Speaker 2 (02:59:53):
Well, that would be good for the people like Pompeo
who work for the military industrial complex. Thank you for
joining us. Have a good.

Speaker 12 (02:59:58):
Day, the common man.

Speaker 3 (03:00:14):
They created common Core and dumb down our children. They
created common Past, track and control us. They're Commons project
to make sure the commoners own nothing and the communist future.
They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated ordinary. But
each of us has worth and dignity created in the

(03:00:36):
image of God.

Speaker 2 (03:00:39):
That is what we have in common. That is what
they want to take away.

Speaker 3 (03:00:44):
Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire
to know everything about us, while they hide everything from us.
It's time to turn that around and expose what they
want to hide. You share the information and links you'll
find at the Davidnightshow dot com. Thank you for listening,

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