Wed Episode #2151: The Fentanyl Lie Behind Venezuela War

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Speaker 1 (00:30):
In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a
revolutionary act.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's the David Knight Show. As the clock strikes thirteen,
it's Wednesday, the third of December. You have of our
Lord twenty twenty five. Well, we're going to talk today
about crypto. What is going on with crypto? A lot

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of articles over the weekend. Is this the crypto collapse?
Is this the bursting of that bubble? And is it
a bubble? So we'll talk a little bit about that.
Also going to talk about a follow up to I
guess we call it the Pentagon piracy that is happening
because it's a thing at all that has any basis

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in law, constitution, or morality that we see happening down there.
And we've seen some very ugly things from the people
that are being labeled by Trump supporters as.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
The Seditious six.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
They basically don't have a foundation to stand on either
in terms of when actually called out. So we're going
to take a look at that. Judge Napolitano called it
as it was, and he said I hate to see
this happen, but he said what he thinks needs to happen.
We'll talk about that coming up as well, we'll be

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right back. You know, we're going to have Eric Peters
on today in the third hour. Looking forward to talking
to Eric. It's been a while since we talked. I'm
going to begin, however, instead of beginning with the problems

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that are in the world, I want to go back
to the foundation that we really need to recover. And
this is something that is going to be recovered. If
it is recovered, it's going to happen one by one,
one person at a time, one family at a time.
This is a grassroots recovering of our civilization. Now that
is to recover the Christian foundation of our civilization. And

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yet we can see some of the handwriting on the
wall as we bring in these different ethnic groups. You
think the Muslims are bad, well you might want to
take a look at the Hindus and what they do,
and what the Hindus do in India against other religious groups,
right against the Sikhs, against the Christians especially, and of

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course against the Muslims that both of them are fighting.
They're just as bad as the Muslims. And we have
a case here the Supreme Court in India now has
called a Christian Indian Army officer quote a misfit for
the Indian Army. Why because of his Christian faith, he's
not fit to be in the Indian Army. And this

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really kind of gets to the essence I think of
following illegal orders. You know, it is ultimately there is
a higher source than your military officer, than your law
or constitution in your country. Ultimately you will be answering
to God. This is a Christian officer who had allegedly

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refused to enter the sanctum sanctorum of his regiment's place
of worship supposedly for all faiths on the order of
his superior citing him Protestant Christian Monotheistic belief.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
And so.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
He had a pastor who advised him saying that's not
a problem. Can you imagine a pastor telling somebody to
violate their conscience?

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Right?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Again, this comes back to I think a personal understanding
because you have you know, Paul talks a great deal
about how meat sacrifice the idols, and he says, we
may know that it means nothing, but you don't offend
somebody who thinks that it does. And again, you don't.
You don't violate your conscience. And that's what this guy

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refused to do. He says, I'm not going to go
participate in these religious services to seek and hinder gods.
And we had that was really kind of the basis
of a lot of Christian persecution in the in Rome
at the very beginning. You just had to go take
a little bit of incidents and throw it on the
fire to the emperor as an act of obedience. What's

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the big deal about that? Well, Christians refused to do it,
and they died because they refused to do that. Now
to judge bench on the Supreme Court comprising Chief Justice
of India and another justice came down heavily on the
officer and called him a soldier who quote allowed his

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religious ego. Whose religious ego are we talking about here? See,
whenever you talk about religious freedom, it eventually comes down
to whose religion. Are we going to have a Christian
based worldview and religion that's going to be there? Are
we going to have secular humanists for example, or Hindu

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or Sekh or Muslim? And this is after he had
lost repeatedly at lower courts, they took it to the
Supreme Court. He had first gone to lower courts in
Delhi and then they took it all the way up
to to the Supreme Court, which really slammed him the

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underlying that soldiers cannot prioritize personal religious beliefs. This case
drew massive attention across the country as the undercurrents of
religious divide between the minority Christians the majority Hindus in
India continued to grow, fanned by Hindu nationalism. And I
got to say that this particular government that is in

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India right now under Modai, who when he came to America,
he was celebrated by Congress and by the President and
so forth. And Trump has put a close ally of
this political party in this religious group, and that would
be Tulsey Gabbard. He's put her in a very sensitive position.
He joined the Indian Army as lieutenant twenty seventeen and

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he was now troop leader of a squadron. He was
dismissed from the army for refusing to enter the sanctum sainctrum.
Actually that was in twenty twenty one, so it took
him four years to become a troop leader. He's been
fighting the dismissal since twenty twenty one. He was dismissed
for refusing to enter the temple despite repeated instructions from

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his commanding officer and advice from a pastor that his
faith would not be affected. A pastor who tells you
to violate your conscience, we had a lot of those
during COVID, didn't we This is not just an Indian thing.
We had a lot of really bad quote unquote leaders.
So his lawyer in the court said that the officer's

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faith was monotheistic. He refused to enter the innermost area
because it housed a guru Duarrah and a temple. He
argued that his client feared being compelled to perform rituals
prohibited by his faith. So I said, they told him,
this is a supreme court. Well, you can have your

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personal belief, but you know, just obey mine first right,
keep your personal belief to yourself and what in terms
of what you do howardly, you have to do what
I say. See, we see these same issues over time.
We see in different countries and different cultures, but it's
always the same thing, right, and the name of multiculturalism

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and being nice to everybody. Do what I say. I'm
not going to tolerate you, you need to tolerate me. That
type of thing, remarking that his behavior reflected the grossest
form of contempt and end discipline. The Bench added this
type of quote cantankerous attitude is not acceptable in the

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armed forces. Well again, we'll be talking about illegal orders.
And this is really where it begins. Experts are sounding
the alarm on the gruesome Christian persecution in Syria.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
You know, this is the.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Guy that came to visit Trump in the Oval office.
Is trump virtue signaled by what he said about Nigeria
And he's done nothing at all about Nigeria. Not that
he needs to go to war with Nigeria, but he
hasn't applied any pressure to Nigeria. I don't know what
pressure he could apply. It's not like they manufacture anything
that we buy, I think. And yet when you look

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at this guy, you've got a lot of leaders talking
about how horrible the massive persecution is. There after Assad
has been removed, they said, this is a former al
Qaeda fighter. He fought Americans and Mosul during the Iraq War.
He was commander of the area and then of course
he went to Syria joined another terrorist group and that

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terrorist group ended up overthrowing Assad. And I would say
with help from the Pentagon. Pentagon, the Pentagram, I call
him Pentagram so often anyway, these evil people and the Pentagon,
and I make no apology for saying that. I truly
believe they are evil. They're evil like the CIA. And

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when you look at the fact that they're using a
ten warthogs as air support for these people, that was
really clear that we joined with the terraces that we've
been saying for the longest time, that we were working
with al Qaeda in Syria. I remember when that was said,
and everybody, oh, that's the conspiracy sy that's not true
and everything, and yet it was true. We could see

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the final analysis. Who gets put in there. That's what
the CIA, the Pentagon does. That's why I when you
look at this phony drug war down in Venezuela, give
me a break. We've got you know. At the same
time Trump is boasting and defending the war crimes and
murder that are happening down there of civilians. They are

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coming after this imaginary cartel that is supposedly shipping imaginary
amounts of fentanyl. None of that is true. The fentanyl
coming from Venezuela is not coming from Venezuela. Everybody knows that,
and this cartel of the Suns is a nonexistent organism.
But of course we've already had a dress rehearsal for

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all of these lies with a pandemic. Regardless of whether
or not you believe that there was a virus, and
I do not believe there was a virus at all.
They never isolated it. But you had a pandemic declared
when even they said there were only three or four
people in the entire country that had had an issue.
In China, the same thing as Joel Center points out

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six people, they said, even if that were true, that's
not justification. So if they can have all of these
draconian measures and lockdowns and everything over a non existent pandemic,
over a non existent virus, and of course we can
have a war over a non existent organism that is

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supposedly but not really shipping fentinel, it's it's insane. But
they've they've established that we will go along with that
and that there will not be any sequences for them.
I've come to conclusion that religious freedom is the most
sacred human right of all, said one of the people
talking about what's going on in Syria. He says, think

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about that. If you don't have religious freedom, what do
you have. Religious freedom is the canary in the coal mine.
If you don't have religious freedom underneath it, you're going
to have terrorism. And that's what we see in Syria.
Yet Trump has no issue with real terrorists. And this
guy is really a terrorist, that's not what the situation

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is in Venezuela. And as I said yesterday laying that
clip of Trump saying, well, you know, in Libya, we
should have just gone in there where we made the mistake.
We should have gone in there. We should have done
a deal with him, even though he's a terrorist, right,
and we should have taken half of their oil, and
of course Venezuela has more oil than anybody. This is

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classic colonialism. You know, we see the left throw these
terms out racist colonialists, and so many times that it
destroys that word. Basically people get inoculated against. It's like
crying wolf, except this is really a wolf. This is
the wolf of colonialism. That's a colonialism. Wise, you go in,

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you overthrow the government, and you loot the country of
its natural resources. And that's what Trump is doing. He's
an old nineteenth century colonialist, a New York City Democrat
as well. But that's what he really is. And you
know when you talk about genocidal, Oh, don't use that word.
That's been used so much, and yet when it does apply,

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they get really upset about that. So sometimes it does apply.
We have here meanwhile in the US, and not just
in the US, but in the Bible Belt in the South,
we have a street preacher talking about free speech and
free exercise religion. Case involving a Mississippi street preacher arrested

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for sharing the gospweau'side a concert venue has now reached
the US Supreme Court, setting the stage were ruling that
could reshape how Americans defend their constitutional rights against local restrictions.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I wonder if the.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Supreme Court will pay any attention to their precedent of
ma versus Alabama. And you've heard me talk about that
over and over again. Just to briefly recap, somebody was
handing out religious tracts in the public square in a
town and the town was privately owned because it was
a coal company that owned the town, and they threw

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this person out. This person sued, went all the way
to the Supreme Court and marsh versus Alabama, and the
Supreme Court said, even if the public square is privately owned,
you cannot stop these rights that we recognize as being
basic human rights of free speech and free exercise of religion.

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And of course that case involved both the free exercise
religion and free speech. This one does as well. But
I use that case over and over again because you
had Jack Dorsey at Twitter said at least eight times
in congressional hearings that Twitter was a digital public square.
Muscus said the same thing since about X you see,

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after you bought Twitter, And so that's the principle that
applies here, and it should apply here. And I'm wondering
if they're going to obey that, if they're going to
throw that out and set a new precedent here. Officers
barred him from sharing Christ outside the Brandon Amphitheater. The
city forced him in to quote a designated protest zone,

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designated protests on And I've seen this over and over
again before the Bundy Ranch thing. I had already talked
about the RNC and the DNC, the Republican and Democrat
National Conventions when they have their presidential nominating commisions, what
they do is, if you want to protest that political
party at that event. They have a designated protest area

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and it is many many blocks away from the convention
center where they're having their meeting, so that nobody sees them.
And they have a cage. And if you want to
protest the Republicans at the Republican Convention or the Democrats
at the Democrat Communion, you go down to that cage
and they'll give you a microphone and a soapbox and

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you can scream your lungs out in this remote cage
because nobody will hear you. And they literally are caging
free speech. It's an amazing metaphor. But we saw it
again at the Bundy Ranch when I was there. When
we got there, they had cordoned off an area with
like some construction, I don't know what do you call it.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Fencing.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
It's like really set up usually to stop silt. You know,
when you've got instruction going on, they'll put these this
orange plastic stuff up.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
It's fencing, I was talking about.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
They had that around the area, and is first thing
Josh and I took a picture of. And they had
a very professionally printed sign that says free speech area.
You know, don't go anywhere else, you go here, this
is out and it was amazing how remote this was.
This is out in the middle of nowhere, northern Nevada,
where the Bundy Ranch was, and there was nobody up

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there except for the Bundy Ranch people and the protesters
who are there in a different area. But they wanted
you to go to this particular area. And somebody put
up a handwritten sign that said free speech is not
an area. It's not an area. But they do it
at the political conventions, they do it at other protests.

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Now they want to do it in terms of religious
street preaching as well. He said, I just love to
tell people about Jesus. I come to the venue to
hand out gospel tracts and to tell people about Christ.
Same situation that was happening in marsh Arces, Alabama. The
city used a broad ordinance to push them away from
the crowds, and action that he and his attorneys say

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amounts to viewpoint discrimination. The Supreme Court is not deciding
it whether the ordinance of the city violates the First Amendment. Instead,
the justices will determine whether he even has a legal
right to challenge the ordinance. After receiving a conviction but
no jail time. Lower courts dismissed his civil rights lawsuit,

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claiming he could not challenge the constitutionality of the ordinance
because he had already been convicted under it, even though
he never served jail time and could not file a
habeis appeal.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
This is crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I mean, how in the world can you get convicted
of something and you don't have a right to appeal that. Now,
the guarantee of religious liberty is meaningless if we don't
have the opportunity to protect those rights in court. And
these are principles that apply for every part of the
Bill of Rights. Under the Fifth Circuits view, people like

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mister Oliver must either break the law again or surrender
their constitutional rights. City officials saying that he shouted at
passerbys and he displayed graphic pro life signs. Well, actually
what he was showing was graphic anti abortion, showing pictures
of abortion murders. You know, pro life sign would be

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family having dinner at Thanksgiving or something like that. This
is pictures of babies that have been ripped apart by
the abortionists. It prompted complaints, of course, and so the
police got involved. They don't like you talking about murder,
do they Christian ministries and free speech advocates one that

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designated protest zones are increasingly being used nationwide to push
Christian expression out of sight, and we see this in
every aspect. I mean, you know, when you look at
the Supreme Court decisions that hit in the middle of
the twentieth century where they started putting a gag on
anybody saying anything about their religious beliefs, their Christian religion.

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You know, we're talking about the other stuff, that's fine,
but you want to talk about secular humanism, you want
to talk about evolution, that's great. Youant have feminism, that's great,
But those world views are approved, but you can't talk
about your Christian faith. So, you know, we saw that
kind of what it essentially did was to create in

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the same way that I was talking about these designated
protest zones, it created areas where the First Amendment free
expression of religion was not allowed. So it's kind of
it's now prohibited unless we allow it type of thing.
If they can limit your free speech in a public park,
they can take away a fundamental right.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
That's absolutely true.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
And so.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Do you have the right. This is what the Supreme
Court is looking at do you have the right to
challenge an unconstitutional law before being forced to violate it again?
Under the Fifth Circuits interpretation, Oliver and I guess it's Olivia, Yeah,
and others in his position face an impossible dilemma. Either
surrender their First Amendment freedoms and comply with a restricted ordinance,

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or knowingly break that ordinance again expose themselves to fresh
criminal penalties just to gain access to the courts. Constitutional
scholars warn of the Supreme Courts ruling can determine whether
their citizens can still preemptively defend their religious liberty and
free speech, or whether they must endure repeated prosecutions before
being allowed to contest government overreach. It's important fight against

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this stuff, but we have to realize that our rights
don't come from government. Government can take them away the
way Thomas Jefferson said. He said, life and liberty can
be destroyed, but they cannot be separated. And that's true

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of all this stuff. The government has the power to destroy,
but they can't really separate you from God.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
Right.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
The case arives when many believers see is an increasing
hostility towards public expressions of faith in the us, and
it's only going to get worse as we bring in
people from other countries who have absolutely no tradition of
tolerance that is a Christian thing. Christian students have all
faced growing government pressure to stay silent or to stay

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out of sight. So again, whose religion is it going
to be? The secular humanists, planned parenthood and feminism, Hindu religion,
what is it going to be? If the court rules
in his favor, it may reaffirm religious liberty does not
depend on government permission. Of course, it doesn't that Christians
do not lose their rights because others find their message uncomfortable.

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So we're back into hate speech territory again. If the
court rules against them, local governments may gain expanded authority
to confine, confine, or to restrict public evangelism, setting a precedent.
And that is always the case when you look at
the hate speech. Hate speech is just a facade for censorship.

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They're going to shut down the speech that they hate.
They will call it hateful. Well, I just want to know,
I want to take a quick break here, but I
thought this was an excellent point here. This is something
that I think we've all seen, but maybe we missed
something very significant in it. The Charlie Brown Christmas Special
is hitting its sixtieth anniversary December the ninth, so in

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about a week. And it was December the ninth, nineteen
sixty five, sixty years ago that it premiered. And this
person who wrote a article about it said that he
was in the first grade when they were doing Christmas pageants.
He said, our class performed a version of the Charlie
Brown Christmas since I was kind of a bookworm and

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already had a blue blanket to play the part of Linus.
As Linus, I memorize Luke to eight through fourteen, and
that has been hidden in my heart ever since. But
while working so diligently to learn those lines, there's one
important thing I didn't notice, and I didn't notice until now.
I'm going to play a little excerpt of that for you.

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See if you can notice a significant thing, he said.
Even though Linus's security blanket remains a major source of
ridicule for the otherwise mature and thoughtful Linus, he simply
refuses to give it up until he gets to a
certain point.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
Watch this everything I do turns into a disaster. I
guess I really don't know what Christmas is all about.
Isn't there anyone who knows what Christmas is all about? Sure,
Charlie Brown, I can tell you what Christmas is all about, lins, please.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in
the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And lo,
the Angel of the Lord came upon them, and the
glory of the Lord shall round about them. And they
were sore afraid, And the Angel set unto them fear not,
For behold, I bring you tidings of great joy which
shall be to all people. For unto you is born

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this day in the City of David, a savior, which
is Christ the Lord.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
And this shall be a sign unto you. You shall
find the Babe, wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
And suddenly there was with the Angel a multitude of
the heavenly host, praising God and saying glory to God
in the highest and on earth peace good will toward men.

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That's what Christmas has thought about, Charlie Brown.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
So did you catch it? When he gets to the
part he says fear not, he drops.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Us a security blanket right there. So is it a coincidence?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I think that Charlie Charles Schultz was a pretty strong Christian.
That's why he put that in there. And he got
a lot of pushback from CBS for putting that in
there in the first place. So he's got Lioness dropping
his security blanket right there. As he points out, he said,
Jesus separates us from our fears, frees us from the
habits we're unwilling or unable to break for ourselves. He

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allows us to drop the false security blankets they've been
hanging to. Yeah, the world is a scary place. Most
of us find ourselves grasping for something temporal, for security,
whatever that may be. Essentially, ours is a world in

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which it is very difficult to fear. Not So we'll
take a break and then we'll come back. We'll talk
about the things that that are bad that we do
not fear. We'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
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Speaker 6 (28:24):
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Speaker 1 (28:27):
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Speaker 4 (29:16):
Welcome back. We've got comments Guard Goldsmith course, you can
find them at Liberty Conspiracy Monday through Friday at six
PM says the Marcia Alabama case destroyed the principle of
private property, leaving its definition in the hands of government.
Once it is defined by the government put into private
prop that's the death of private prop But anything supported
by tax money is public, open to all the arguing
and dissent. Once the government makes something it's plaything, it

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becomes subject of the tragedy of the commons.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Well, I would disagree with that guard. I think that
what we're looking at here is the fact that our
ability to speak in our religious liberty is something that
can't be taken away, not by Elon Musk, not by
the richest of the rich. The purpose of government is
to protect are God given liberties, and that is I

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think more important than property. I know that Murray Rothbard
looks at all human rights as a property issue. I disregard.
I don't agree with that. I think that is simply
a secularist, materialist point of view that he's trying to
argue for, and so I don't agree with that at all.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
But let's talk a little bit about.

Speaker 8 (30:27):
Yeah, says the government is there to prevent an even
worse government from taking its place. If you just have
a power vacuum. The person with the biggest guns is
going to implement whatever government they want. So it's there
to ensure those rights was the goal of a just government.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
It's well, I mean from a standpoint, I mean you
could say that your free speech, your religious liberty is,
as Murray Rothbart says, a property right. So then you
have a clash of property rights are there, And you know,
if you have a class of property rights, if somebody
moves their fence onto your property, you take it to court.

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The court arbitrate about that. That's a legitimate purpose of government,
one of the few legitimate purposes of government. But you
know that if you want to take the Rothbart approach,
that would be what it is. But I don't take
the Rothbart approach. I think that's trying to justify human
rights in terms of materialist perspective. What do you want

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to say, Lance.

Speaker 8 (31:30):
Yeah, I was just saying that once these companies get
large enough, they start to take on government like powers
like the cameras can surveil you in a way that
the government is specifically prohibited from doing. And if they
are permitted to do that, it's essentially the same thing.
Once something gets big enough it becomes government esque, whether

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that's financial power or military power, and I feel like
the just government is to restrict these things from imposing
and limiting citizens' rights.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Well, you know, we understand that the whole adage that
behind every billionaire there's a crime. Well, I think one
of the things we need to understand is that there's
not these two separate groups out there. It's just like
there's not really the Republicans and Democrats. I have this
common agenda, and there is this regulatory capture issue that
we see over and over again, big farm of military

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industrial complex and so many different other things like that
where there's a merger. Just take a look at Elon Musk.
You know, Eric Peters are be coming on later, And
first time I talked to Eric, it was about the
fact that Elon Musk became so wealthy simply because he
was a king of crony capitalism, and so you can
use that relationship that you have with the government to

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make yourself wealthier. And it's really you know, the socialist
Democrats will say that the government can do no wrong
and the corporations can do no right. The opposite approach
from libertarians and conservatives is to always champion business and
to say that government can't do anything right. The problem

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is that they were fighting between big government and big business.
We're fighting a unified evil that is there. They're not
two separate things. They're just two heads of the same hydra.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
That are there comments here, three little birds. I'm fighting
preferred pronoun usage being mandatory in the workplace. I have
the same obstacles you mentioned in this case you discussed. Yeah,
I'm sorry to hear that. Then there's some disgust as well.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Yeah, discussed in the isusd Well, we have a JP
senator says that the report on this kill order that
came from Hegseth said, quote shocked us.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
All.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
That is Lisa Murkowski, and she is again one of
the left leaning Republicans, so she's not so much a
part of the tribe. She's kind of independent. She was
asking an interview, she said, They said, can I ask
you about the boat strikes well, the Washington Post reporting
your thoughts on that, if you think that they were

(34:13):
too far? Any concern with that conduct? She said, Well,
I have spoken out, I think through my support for
the King Resolution twice already, so yes, I have concerns
absolutely follow up, they said, well, can we talk about
the Washington Post story in particular, there are some folks
who say that Hegseth and the commander who ordered the
strike are liable for war crimes. Is that your interpretation,

(34:36):
she said, I think you're talking about the second strike. Well,
actually I said that about the first strike, and I
said that about the first strike before it came out
that in the first strike they had turned around. There
was absolutely no way that they were a threat, not
to the military that was there. They were not shooting
at them, they were running from them, and they didn't
have boats that could come to America, and they didn't

(34:59):
have any.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
We know that because.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
I say we know they didn't have any fentanyl, because
every one of these organizations that has been set up
to monitor this stuff has said that they don't have fentanyl.
So why is Trump making this story up? Well he
got away with it in twenty twenty with the pandemic.
So she said, yeah, I think it certainly raises that
concern when you have individuals that are literally in the water,

(35:28):
not the threat that they had initially presented. Perhaps, so yes,
I have expressed the concerns and continue to have them
thank you, she said. So the reporter pressed again, said, well,
war crimes specifically for that act, for that second strike,
and again there was no declaration of war, there was

(35:50):
no justification for the first strike, there was no threat
against them.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
She said.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I think I think what we have heard shocked us all,
and I think most would say that when you have
two individuals that are literally floating in the water, a
second order to kill them all is not something that
we would consider within the rules of war. Heg Seth
on Monday night appeared to shift the blame for the
second strike to the Admiral Mitch Bradley. And this is

(36:18):
why the first guy probably got out, because he knew
that was going to happen. They were going to shift
it down to away from Trump and Warpete, his sidekick.
They're going to shift it down to the guy in
charge of the area, which is what they're doing. And
of course I don't know will he be able to
shift it down to people below him?

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Will he do that?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
But then he comes on, he says, but he is
an American hero, a true professional, has one hundred present
my support. I stand by him. What they reminded me
of and brit Hume said, this is amazing to see
how he's throwing this guy into the bus. But when
I read that, it reminded me of Brutus's speech from

(36:58):
Julius Caesar, where he's I'm rather sorry, Mark Anthony, who
he's talking about Brutets. He says yes, he lays out
all these different issues of Brutus, and he says, yes,
Brutus is an honorable man in almost a sarcasm type
of way. So he pretends to praise him, and yet
what he's doing is he is setting him up for

(37:19):
the mob. Several of Mkowski's GOP senate colleagues of raised
concerns over the same strike on survivors, but told reporters
on Monday that they wanted to see further video evidence
of the strike and audio of the moment that the
order was given before weighing in. I just have to
say I spent a lot of time on this in
the past, and I'm doing this because I think this
is a central issue. This is a very important. We

(37:43):
all look at the military industrial complex and how it
is out of control in this country, and they have
spent money and blood over and over again on wars
that could best.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Be described as hoaxes.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Look at the weapon of mass destruction in Rock and
nine to eleven and the Vietnam Gulf of Tonkin and
over and over again. And when are we going to learn?
When are we going to push back in this particular war.
Not only are they obviously lying to us about all
of the basis of this thing, it's not a war.

(38:19):
They weren't being threatened. Everything about this is a lie, and.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
We need the audio. It is a podcast.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
It's all a lie.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Everything is a lie, and that certainly is.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
The truth about this particular case. And this is an
opportunity for us to call out the military industrial complex
and it needs to be it needs to be highlighted.
Now you got Mark Kelly says that the DOT didn't
mention the second strike on the boat. They said the
Congressional briefing was very evasive. He said, they didn't say

(38:54):
there was a second strike when they briefed us on
the first one in September. Second and they didn't share
all the information. Rubio and Hegsath had briefed a group
of top Congression members behind closed doors in November, and
Kelly revealed the General Council for the Defense Department had
seen quote evasive despite a bunch of questions from lawmakers,

(39:17):
he said, well, the problem is is that when you
ask Mark Kelly, he also gets evasive on this stuff.
US Defense secretary says he did not see any survivors
before the follow up strike on the drug.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Quote.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Now, you didn't see anything, right, the Schultz from huggin.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Zeroes, I see nothing. I don't see it.

Speaker 9 (39:41):
We were just blowing up the water there.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
That's right.

Speaker 9 (39:43):
We were fishing with ballistics.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, you know, there's something very fishy about all this,
and it is a fishing expedition. They're still fishing for
a reason to be there and to take the oil.

Speaker 9 (39:55):
What there were people in the water, we blew up.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
That's right. So he didn't see any of this at all. Right,
except again, this is not about the second strike. I
think you know, they want to make this about the
second strike. Fine, but it was really about the first
strike as well. The first strike would not have been
justified even if they weren't turning around. But then when
they were turning around, you had a lot of former

(40:22):
JAG people said, oh, that's a very different situation now,
and they're not a threat. It's the same principle, as
I said, if somebody breaks into your house and they're
coming at you, you are allowed to shoot them in
self defense. But if they grab your television set and
or running out with it, you're not allowed to shoot
them in the back. Same thing is true of police, supposedly,

(40:44):
and we see the police get away with this all
the time. But you're not supposed to use lethal force
against somebody when they're not a.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Threat to you.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
And yet that is especially true of the military because
of the lethality that heggs Seth likes to talk about
all the time. Problem is he has focused so much
on lethality that he pays no attention at all to
legality right or to morality. So he said he did

(41:13):
not personally see any survivors before a Dudley follow up
strike on an alleged boat in the Caribbean. How many
times are going to change the story?

Speaker 4 (41:20):
You know?

Speaker 2 (41:21):
First he said, well, we had to do a second
strike because we're worried about debris and the water being
a threat to shipping. The remains of this boat that
they just blew to some mother ings is going to
be a problem for some of the big military ships
that are there there.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Might be some atoms that get in the way.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Amazing.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Hagg Seth attributed the strike to the fog of war
and a chaotic situation. Well, the problem with a fog
of war argument, which is basically the way that he
had McNamara excuse what he was doing in Vietnam and
the Gulf of Tonkin lie, the falsefying lie that got
us into that war. The problem is is that you're

(42:03):
all fog and no war because you don't have a justification.
The Venezuelans have not attacked us. Trump wants to pretend
that the smuggling in a fentanyl is an attack on us.
Even if they were smuggling in fentinyl, that's not an attack.
And all the Conservatives who are saying that is are

(42:24):
simply lying to cover up for Trump. But they're not
even smuggling in the fentinyl. Trump, for his part, also
defended Admiral Bradley, although he distanced himself from the decision
to strike the vessel second time, saying we didn't know
anything about that.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
I know nothink and I can say this.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
I do want those boats taken out, and we're going
to start doing it on the land.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
As well, right, that's what he says.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
I guess they're going to start blowing up boats on
the land, and you know, you have to drop bombs
on Venezuela because they might build boats at some point
in time of the future if you don't bomb them
to smotherings. So heg Seth had gone on Fox News
just hours after the no survivors boat strike and bragged,

(43:13):
I watched it live, so okay. Heg Seth bragged on
Fox News that he watched in real time the controversial
boat strike that he's now distancing himself from after the
revelation that two survivors were subsequently killed. Again, it turned around,
so he would have seen that. He can't say that

(43:34):
he left before that was seen, because he was there
before they dropped the bombs. Heg Seth was blamed for
giving the order for initial reporting. But a sense pointed
the finger at the admiral while claiming to fully support him,
and that's what Brett Humes said.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
He said.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
He quote tweeted Hegseth's post.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
He said, this is how you point the finger at
somebody while pretending to support him. Earlier in the day,
he Hume had said on Fox News that the story
could be quote a big problem for the Trump administration.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
It should be it should be.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Ryan Goodman, a former General counsel for the Department of Defense,
said that if heg Seth ordered everyone on the boat killed,
then the Secretary is ultimately responsible for the second strike,
regardless of Bradley's involvement. And you know Trump is responsible
for sending this massive armada down there, right. I mean,

(44:35):
you know they're sending these troops down and then they
are at the same time saying, you do what I say,
whether it is legal or not.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
So if there's not.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
A legal war, you still have to kill everybody if
they tell you to kill everybody. So Trump and heg
Seth are saying our orders are to kill everybody, and
then when they kill everybody, they say, well, we didn't
order that. You know, you ordered the troops down there,
you order the troops to kill You are complicit in

(45:04):
all of this.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
I'm for mar A Lago, and I say kill them all.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Worst case scenario is what the Washington Post is reporting,
what CNN reported, which is that Secretary heg Seth is
the one who told Admiral Bradley that he wanted to
ensure that there would be no survivors. That is the
worst case scenario. The best case scenario for him is
that he gave some instruction to Bradley, who then interpreted

(45:29):
it to me the very same thing. But that would
also hold hag Seth responsible. Again, it would also hold
Trump responsible because Trump's the one who sent them down
to do that. He's in getting very serious about it.
He's canceled Christmas leave for these people. So again the
fog of war when the quote unquote war has not

(45:51):
been declared, and it's unjust to start with, it's not
going to get a declaration. But they're not going to
do that. They're just going to do it illegally. The
Free Thought Project says blowing up boats won't stop fentanel ending,
the drug war will. And I agree with their general

(46:12):
thrust here because, and I've said this many times, one
of the things that happens when you have prohibition, and
of course they don't want to call this prohibition. They
want to call it a drug war. And I think
that there is a reason for that. It's not just
so that, you know, they got a war on poverty,
they got a war on this, They got to war
on that they like to have czars about the drug

(46:33):
zar and all the rest of this kind of stuff. However,
I think it's very important for them not to call
it prohibition, because that would highlight the fact that there
is no constitutional authority.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
For the drug war. You had to have.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
You had to have a special amendment to the Constitution
to prohibit alcohol, and then a second one to bring
it back, the eighteenth and the twenty first Amendment. It's
easy to remember that because those are the drinking ages
in various states. Eighteen and twenty one. So the administration
calls the people killed narco terrorists.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Says a Free Thought Project.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
This is actually an article from.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
John Vibes says that the strikes are necessary to protect
American lives from the fentanyl epidemic. However, the Coastguard statistics
suggest this is what Rampaula said. He's not about a
core of the time. It's very specific. Twenty seven percent
of the suspected drug boat searches come up empty. Figures
have shown that fentanyl is not exported to the US

(47:30):
from Venezuela. It's all a lie to justify regime change,
and it's not even.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
A good one.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
And you know, it's not even just regime change. I mean,
this is what the left has always been screaming about
with colonialism. You know, there is a point and time
which these words do have meaning. And if you're going
to overthrow the country so that you can steal the oil,
which is what Trump has said over and over again.
He said about Libya, he said about Syria, and that's

(48:00):
what he's doing in Venezuela. He's wanted to do this
for a very long time. The strikes have triggered unprecedented
pushback from America's closest allies. For example, the UK has
stopped sharing drug interdiction information with the United States because
the British officials concluded that these strikes violate international law

(48:23):
and they amount to extra judicial killing. The UNS Human
Rights chief said the same thing. Colombia's president said the
same thing. After an innocent fisherman was blown up there
that was a Columbian citizen, he ordered his security forces
to suspend intelligence sharing until the attacks stop. Canada has

(48:45):
also made it clear that it doesn't want its intelligence
used to target boats for deadly strikes, even within the US.
And that's a key thing because you know, look at Canada,
and the UK. They're part of the five Eyes, you know,
the five and ten intelligence agencies or the you know,
the five Eyes of so on. They're looking at us

(49:06):
and they share intelligence on everything. But now they're pulling
back and saying, this is we don't even want to
have anything to do with this. It's kind of like
you know what they did with the royal family did
with Jeffrey Epstein, going to several.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Ties of this.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
This is too hot for US, and yet you know,
Trump just soldiers on. He's going to cover for Epstein.
It's amazing. Even within the US military, the operations provoked
serious concerns. Admiral Alvin Holsey, who commanded the US Southern Command,
oversaw the strikes, raised questions about their legality. During a

(49:39):
tense October meeting with Pete Hegseth, he offered to resign,
and then he stepped down after just one year in
a position that typically lasts for three years. When your
own admiral quits over legal concerns and your closest allies
won't share intelligence because they think you're committing war crimes,

(50:02):
you're probably committing war crimes. Think about that. Venezuela plays
essentially no role in the ventinyl crisis. The State Department's
own research shows that Mexico is the only significant source
of illicitt fentanyl reaching the US. Fentanyl is almost exclusively
smuggled overland from Mexico, not by boat through the Caribbean,

(50:26):
and not across the Canadian border. Think about the lies
that Trump has told us to create conflict, lies about
fentinyl coming from Canada, and how he femented conflict by
saying We're going to take over at Greenland. That kind
of disappeared, didn't it. Anyway. The boat's coming from Venezuela

(50:49):
carry cocaine, and most of that cocaine is headed to Europe,
not to the United States because European prices are higher
and enforcement is weaker. The administration is killing people off
in the Venezuelan coast. Listen to this, to stop a
drug that doesn't come from Venezuela and boats that are
not heading to the US, and they're killing them in

(51:13):
a war that doesn't exist, claiming that they are threatened,
claiming that they're threatened by people who have been shipwrecked
and are clinging to a burning boat. I mean, this
is literally the example that is used in the American
textbooks to tell the military you do not shoot at
people in the water when they've been shipwrecked. They're no

(51:35):
longer a threat. They're out of combat. And according to
the Nuremberg Treaty and other treaties that we've signed, that
is a war crime. And so everybody knows it's a
war crime.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Everybody knows it's a lie.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
Also, we have to think about you know, these are
boats that are probably loaded with cocaine and they're headed
to Europe. The European techno scene is suffering right now.
We're not going to get any good techno music for
who knows how long. And this is something we need
to be concerned about. This is another This is something
else that other people aren't considering. We need to think
about these things as well. Well.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Again, the administration's killing people to stop a drug that
doesn't come from Venezuela and boats that are not headed
to the United States. So this is forty chess. Maybe
it's four dimensional lives. Maybe that's what we're really getting
from Trump. Yet again, it's beyond stupid, but he got
away with it. He got away with it. In twenty twenty,
with the pandemic stuff, and he had the press. Same

(52:30):
people who were covering for him on this covered for
him on that. Don't worry. It's not the bad vaccine
that gates wints.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
It's the sugar water. This there.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Come on, you can take a little bit of aluminum
and mercury being injected into your veins. That's not a problem.
I know, I told you for twenty years that's the problem,
said Alex Jones. But now it's not because it's Trump,
so everything is fine. And because you know, we were
against wars in foreign countries like Iraq and everything. But
now that this is Trump, Alex Jones is trumpeting the

(53:01):
fact that we've got to go to war with Venezuela.
We need to not just overthrow the regime, but we
need to go back to nineteenth century colonialism. The mismatch
between their rhetoric and reality reveals something important about the
drug war. The actual flow of drugs has never been
the point. The war on drugs has always been about control.

(53:22):
And when we look at it from our perspective, what
prohibition does is it corrupts the police, it corrupts the courts.
They want the police and courts corrupted. They don't want
to have due process. They don't want to have any
limits on what they do about anything. They love this
idea of militarized police. That's what Daryl Gates did in

(53:44):
LA He was the one who started these swat teams
and the armored vehicles and anything.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
They love that kind of stuff. This is their.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Excuse all of these Everyone in government basically wants to
be their own petty little dictator. So if they can
get their own militarized swat team or polings force underneath them, nick,
they would be pinning medals to their own chest. If
they could, they'd be walking around like any one of
these third world dictators you see with the epaulets and

(54:12):
the chest loaded with metals. That's every single one, anyone
in your local city or town, or all the way
up to Congress and the President. That's what they want.
They won't admit it, but that's what they desperately want.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
And cops love to just steal stuff and not have
to go through an illegal process, which is what so
glass that forfeiture is. They love the no knock raids
and the militarized raids and all the rest of this stuff.
People use hard drugs because they're looking for an escape
from stressful, painful lives. They're self medicating for trauma, or
for economic desperation, for mental health conditions that go untreated

(54:47):
because they can't afford care, or because the stigma makes
them afraid to seek it. Attempts to cut off the
supply do nothing to address why people want these drugs
in the first laves. All it does is to make
the drugs more dangerous. And before we talk about how
they get more dangerous, understand, you know this, this article
here on Free Thought Project is looking at this from

(55:08):
a purely secular standpoint, but understand it is a spiritual issue.
I mean, these people are missing the fundamental issues in
their life, and so they're looking for some substitutes for God.
And it is a poor substitute. And that's why I
say it is You could say it's a medical issue,
but I think at its heart it is a spiritual
issue that is there. And as I've said before, I've

(55:30):
talked many times the law enforcement against prohibition leap and
these are for the most part, they don't talk about
it while they still have the job. They get out,
they retire, you know, they're no longer a prosecutor or,
a judge or a police officer. And so now they
talk about how futile and useless and corrupting the entire

(55:53):
war on drugs has been to the part of society
that they were working in, the institutions that they were in,
and they now that this is a problem that is
again you can say it's medical or psychological, but it
is spiritual and you're not going to solve that by
using this hammer of law enforcement. So how does it
make drugs more dangerous? As he correctly points out, when

(56:16):
you crack down on supply, you don't reduce demand. You
just push the market towards more potent, more dangerous substances
that are easier to smuggle. And this is not a theory.
We had seen this before, and I've been saying this
for decades now because I've been pushing back against the
drug war for decades publicly. And we saw this with

(56:37):
alcohol prohibition. What happened prior to alcohol prohibition, most people
were drinking beer or wine, which have much lower alcohol content.
That all shifted to harder forms of liquor, and even
dangerous improvised forms of liquor caused people to go blind,
and that was a result of prohibition, it started moving people.

(57:00):
The harder liquor overall really shot up. Why do they
do that? Well, as they point out, it's easier to
smuggle stuff that is more potent and more dangerous, and
that's how we got fentanyl in the first place. As
enforcement made heroin harder to move, traffickers switched to fentanyl

(57:21):
because it's fifty times more potent, meaning that you can
smuggle the same number of doses in a much smaller package.
Every escalation in the drug war has now made drugs
deadlier because you don't always get the dosage right, you
don't always cut it down right, and that's how people
overdose and die.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
So is this something that is.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
You know, we're going to go in and we're going
to throw out this imaginary cartel. Well, the US is
planning to keep troops in the Caribbean through twenty twenty eight.
This is noticed by a military reporting site that saw
the documents from the Defense Logistics Agency. They've been contracted

(58:05):
to supply large amounts of baked goods, including wrapped honeybones,
vanilla cupcakes, and sweet rolls. There we go, chunk food
for a junk war. Take our American cuisine with US
honey buns.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
We're playing a long game. We're going to poison the
Venezuelans with honey buns. But in about twenty years they'll
be so obese and sickly they can't fight back.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
We'll drop them from planes anyway. So a long list
of stuff, but that was at the top of the list,
literally in the article. They're dropping it for the Puerto
Rico zone from November of this year to November of
twenty twenty eight. Chunk food for a junk war. And
this is supplies for the Army, Navy, air Force, and

(58:50):
Marines and Coastguard. It's earmarked for this area and for
them being there. Just military is already amassed. Fifteen thousand
troops in the Caribbean, including five thousand sailors aboard the
USS gerald Ford aircraft carrier, which has more than seventy
five attack, surveillance and support aircraft. Trump has paved the

(59:11):
way for the invasion of oil rich Venezuela again actual colonialism,
not a misuse of that word. Trump has provided no
evidence of Maduro's involvement in drug trafficking. There's a little
evidence that this cartel even exists. This is a zero
hedge article. I mean, everybody knows this. Everybody who covers

(59:32):
this says all of this is a lie. There's no fentanyl,
there's no cartel, there's no decoration of war, there's no threat. Again,
he got away with these kinds of draconian measures. He
went to war with US with a lockdown, and the
pandemic lies based on pandemic lies and a non existent,

(59:53):
not isolated virus. The procurement's length of time and the
level of effort seemed to point to the operations continuing
at the current level for several years. Well, you know,
they said over and over again. I remember reporting this.
People in the Pentagon saying, we're going to stay in
Afghanistan until twenty fifty or what you know. I mean,

(01:00:15):
they want to be there for another twenty years, they
were saying. And yet it doesn't always work out that way,
does it. We're not in Afghanistan now. That was a
total unmitigated disaster. And I don't know, even though when
it's asymmetric warfare, they don't have a big they don't

(01:00:36):
have a way to defend against this aircraft carrier. But
we don't have a way to put boots on the
ground and take all their oil. I think it's significant
because it means that the Navy will maintain a large
presence in the Caribbean that is far larger than what
it has been in recent years. It further implies that
the Navy will be involved in these counter drug operations.

(01:00:57):
And again, as Marky Mark and New Jersey said, when
he was on naval vessels, they had to have the
Coastguard people that were legally trained to do this. They
had a strict protocol about how you would do an addiction,
how you would handle all of this, and they had
specialists who handled all that well. Yesterday I talked about

(01:01:18):
Meghan Kelly, and I think this is something that needs
to be focused on again, complaining that Trump is not
causing these people to die slowly, she said, I'd really
like to see them suffer, and I think that she
needs to get called out for what I think is
the most reprehensible take I have seen on this from

(01:01:39):
anybody and politics or comments from the left or the right.
I think Meghan Kelly has the most disgusting take on
all of this.

Speaker 10 (01:01:47):
So I really do kind of not only want to
see them killed in the water, whether they're on the
boat or in the water. But I'd really like to
see them suffer. I would like Trump and Hegseth to
make it last a long time so that they lose
a limb and bleed out a little like, I'm really
having a difficult time ginning up sympathy for these guys
who ten seconds earlier almost got taken out by the

(01:02:11):
initial bomb, but because.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
They managed to get.

Speaker 10 (01:02:14):
Ejected, you know, a little too soon, had to be
taken out in the water. I realized, legally it may
make a difference, but truly, Mark, this is a tough
case to really gin up the sympathies of the American people.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Really, really, I'm really having a difficult time.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
At taking her.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
I gotta say she does understand, of course, that Trump
and Hegseth are responsible for this, right, but she has
no problem with that because she likes that. This is
a person who's never seen war, She's never even reported
on war. This is a person who had never even
heard of civilized set forfeiture. She doesn't know anything about
the drug war. She doesn't know anything about real wars.
She hadn't understand the consequences of these things that she's

(01:02:53):
talking about. And she has absolutely no moral compass whatsoever.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
That video is utterly insane to me. It's the type
of thing where it's so absurd it almost feels like satire.
But she's being serious. M h. It's you know, you
can tell because she's like, oh, I just want to
see them suffer. She's not taking it to some absurd
point where she's trying to be funny with it. She's

(01:03:20):
not saying something like, you know, I really wish we
could make it worse for me, Like what if we
blow the up and then drop sharks in the water
around them?

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
You know, really scary. She's not alone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
I've seen this over and over again on social media,
and we got Maga out there cheering this stuff and
cheering this illegal war, this colonialism, this piracy that we're
doing in murder. And I see people over and over
again putting this stuff up and saying I voted for
this news.

Speaker 11 (01:03:45):
Venezuela's area Las has been closed off internationally as it
appears that an American strike is coming within days. These
are photos of the B fifty two Strata Fortress, America's
biggest bomber, and these are photos that the US has
released off the coast of Venezuela. Right now, the only
plane in the sky near Venezuela is an American spyplane.
Twenty percent of the entire US Navy is near Venezuela,

(01:04:07):
and a second aircraft carrier has shown up alongside B
fifty two and B one bombers. This is the largest
military build up America has done since the Iraq War,
and it is the largest naval build up since World
War II when America fought Japan. The firepower off the
coast of Venezuela could potentially turn the capitol into rubble
within hours, as the amount of explosives on these American

(01:04:28):
ships is just mind boggling. We do know that the
CIA is operating in Venezuela right now.

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
There have been.

Speaker 11 (01:04:34):
Routine simulated strikes from Puerto Rico with bomber jets toward Venezuela,
and each time they veer off at the last second.
All it takes is one day for Trump to give
the green order, and they're not going to veer off.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I've seen this post that over and over again, like,
oh rah, yeah, go for Trump. That's what I voted for, right,
you voted for this massive waste of money. Waste of life.
You voted for the CIA to conduct its wars and
for Trump to boast about it. You voted for that,
and you're stupid enough to boast about that on social media.

(01:05:08):
You know better than Megan Kelly. These people, it is
a sadistic evil and yeah, I voted for that. I
want to see that happening. Great, let's kill everybody, right,
It's that same attitude. Pete Hegseth is one of them. Okay,
he's like these yahoos out there who are posting that video,
and that's what you wind up with. You wind up

(01:05:31):
with war crimes and mass murder, because that's all this is.
Heg Seth had denied he personally ordered the strike, so
that may get heg Seth off the hook, said Kelly,
but she thought it was quote kind of annoying to
even debate it. Yeah, who cares about the legal issues?
You know, who cares about any of this stuff? I mean,

(01:05:51):
so what you know, if you got the power, you
just do whatever you wish, You kill whoever you want.
And you know, remember I referenced this yesterday, the Great
Escape where they finally catch some of these guys, and
remember what they did to.

Speaker 12 (01:06:04):
Them, surprised.

Speaker 13 (01:06:05):
I expected either a long stay or a very short trip.

Speaker 14 (01:06:08):
Yeah, I have to admit I'm a little.

Speaker 13 (01:06:13):
Worried that I have to God, I haven't blotted seventy
odd ledges. Oh no, no, we're all over twenty one
foot loosen the fancy free. We never have as far
as we did with Lgie Roger what it's worth. I
think he did a damn good job. I think we're older.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
At that point, they separate to go their different areas
because they're gonna kill them all. These are people who
are prisoners. They are out of combat, just like people
who are shipwrecked are out of combat. We've all understood
that you don't murder those people. It was something that

(01:07:06):
the bad guys dead.

Speaker 14 (01:07:08):
Loss for Symphia.

Speaker 13 (01:07:09):
All right, you can get out now, sat sure, league
for five minutes, It'll take hours before you reach the can.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
So when I see people like Megan Kelly, Pete, Haig
Seth and these people who say I've voted for this,
I gotta say, Travis, are we the bad guys? Hans Hans,
are we the bad guys?

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
You know?

Speaker 15 (01:07:37):
The baddies the organization tunneling, Tom and Harry came me alive.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
You know, we.

Speaker 14 (01:07:48):
I've never been happier, you know, Max, to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Which Megan Kelly when she saw that movie, I guess
I wanted to see them suffer. I wanted to see
them bleed out longer. They were killed too quickly.

Speaker 8 (01:08:14):
Right, Well, maybe they were just firing the guns and
didn't realize that they were going to be hitting people there.
There was no order given to shoot the people. They
were just shooting off some round.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
I'm sure the commander left before the machine gunist.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
Actually did it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
I didn't see anything. I know nothing about this. She said,
our armed forces should not commit war crimes.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
We should like, you know, not commit war crimes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
I think she checks her notes to say, yeah, we
shouldn't commit war crimes.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
That's the note to self here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
But she said, I also feel like I object to
even the scrutiny of this event because it's all kind
of manufactured. She said the criticism was on being done
to retroactively justify the video by Democrat members who call
them who Trump has called and she's called the seditious six.
InfoWars calls him that as well, who had posted a

(01:09:13):
video urging troops to refuse illegal orders. And look, I understand.
You know, we've seen Mark Kelly former.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
They posted like a video saying don't don't follow illegal orders,
and now they're trying to see the orders are like illegal,
and that's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Well, we've seen Mark Kelly, who is a former Navy
officer and pilot, and we've seen a retired CIA person.
And when they've been asked point blank by reporters, what
illegal orders have you seen?

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Folks?

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
It is all illegal from the very beginning. I've said
that over and over again. I'll just repeat it one
more time, and yet both of them will say, I
haven't seen anything. We're just concerned because of the rhetoric
that Trump has used that he might do this in
the future, so they back away. Now when you look
at that, and you know, Megan Kelly knows that this

(01:10:08):
is illegal, she has no problem with it. So she
understands that this is partisan stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
In other words, Mark Kelly and the CIA Democrat senator,
they don't care about the principles of a just war,
they don't care about a decoration of war, they don't
care about war crimes. If it was a Democrat president,
they would be fine with it. And I'm sad to
say that, you know, but the message needs to be
still It's still true. You do not follow illegal orders,

(01:10:40):
and that includes going out to fight a war that
is based on a false flag and that the government
has been conducting in a way that has absolutely regarded
for the lives of their troops or civilians. As I've
said many times, I wasn't going to go to Vietnam.
It ended before I had to make that decision, but

(01:11:01):
I would have gone to jail or another country. There's
no way I was going to kill people for that government,
for Richard Nixon, Henry Kissinger. No way I was going
to go kill people for them. They rejected my objection,
but they weren't going to make me go fight. When
you war is when you kill the people they tell
you to kill revolutionist when you figure it out for

(01:11:22):
yourself who the enemy is.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
Well, you could also just say that, since war hasn't
been declared, that by necessity, all these orders are technically
illegals matter what they're telling you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
From the very beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
But even even if you stipulate that they were there
legitimately in a legitimate war.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Which is a huge stipulation, the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Way they have conducted this from the very beginning is illegal,
Mark Kelly. She said his video was based on nothing.
She said, it is a fishing expedition, as if Trump
is not on a fishing ex peedition blowing up fishermen
and Venezuela trying to find a reason. They're trying to

(01:12:05):
find something to accuse Meg Seth of doing. Here's the
big problem. You know, when they go after Venezuela or Vietnam,
and as I've said before, we probably get caught in
this quagmire we should call it Vennom or something.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
But partial to Veezuela.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Yeah, but you know, when they go down there, they
do these kinds of provocations and they're hoping, I guess
that they can go the other side into actually shooting
back or something. But they don't have anything to shoot
back with, and so that kind of has backfired on them,

(01:12:41):
the fact that they're not getting any conflict out of
these people.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
So she said, so I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Really kind of not only want to see them killed
in the waters, you heard, whether they're on the boat
or in the water, but I'd really like to see
them suffer. I would like Trump and heg Seth to
make it last a long time. So they lose a limb,
and they bleed out again that she learned the statistic
dominatrix act with Roger Ales or something. I mean, this

(01:13:09):
is disgusting. But she also note that she understands that
it's Trump and hegsath we're ultimately responsible for this.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
You would think she would at least have the common sense,
the good sense to shut up about something like this,
to not say that part of it is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
I think she wants the publicity, you know, the whole thing.
I mean, I've heard Roger and Alex Jones say this
all the time. Roger Stone, there's no bad publicity, the
old axiom. They really live by that, right. I don't
care whether it's true or not, and I don't care
if it's bad. I want the publicity and whatever I
have to do to get it. Megan Kelly is the

(01:13:45):
same way. I mean, you heard her learn to curse
like a sailor, because every time she does it she
gets headlines. Look at what she said, right, and they
quote her. So she wants that. So in CNN they
had a legal analyst.

Speaker 4 (01:13:57):
Yeah. Also just go to show, like frequently in history
we see that the most bloodthirsty and cruel individuals turned
out to be women when they were given power for
some reason. Yeah, they have this sort of disconnection from it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
So the monstrous regiment of women, as John Knox said, well,
I think to just generalize that as always the people
who are not going to be part of the fight,
and their kids are not going to be a part
of the fight either. Legal analyst Elie Hunnig said on Monday,
in a word, they were illegal as a core principle

(01:14:32):
of the rule of on the law of war that
you cannot target and kill people who have been rendered
incapacitated or defenseless. That conflicts with a Geneva convention. There
was a group of Judge Advocate General JAG people, former
military attorneys who came out with this statement over the
weekend saying these acts would be patently illegal. Colonel Cedric

(01:14:53):
Layton just told you fifteen minutes ago on air that
it would be illegal. If you look at the Department
of Defenses own manual on the Law of War, listen
to this. It uses as an example of something that
would be illegal, this exact scenario. It says that if
you have survivors of a shipwreck, they cannot be targeted

(01:15:16):
because they are incapacitated. It's no different than what the
Nazis did to the Great Escape prisoners, folks. And if
we accept the principle that we can slaughter civilians, that
we can slaughter people after they're out of combat, even
if they were soldiers at some point now they are shipwrecked,

(01:15:37):
incapacitated prisoners, just kill them. That kind of evil government
will turn on all of us. That kind of tyranny
is going to come home against all of us. Judge
and Politano weighed in on this. He was on Fox News.
Actually no, he wasn't on Fox News, but he said,

(01:15:58):
you know, he worked at Fox News for four years.
Of Pete Hegseth, he says, it gives me no pleasure
to say this, but he should be prosecuted for war crimes.
So the people below him are in the military and
they would be should be court martialed. But heg Seth
should be prosecuted for this, and he's absolutely right. HeiG

(01:16:18):
Seth is so focused on lethality, lethality, lethality, he doesn't
care anything about legality, as I said before, or morality,
the higher moral law, which is if he's going to
put Christian tattoos all over himself. Maybe he ought to
think about that, maybe how to learn something about what
he professes to follow and the person that he professes

(01:16:41):
to follow. The principles of just war were formulated by Christians,
and he should brush up on that, do a little
bit of medial reading. He also needs to look at
the war Manual that defines what war crimes are. Trump
again says I want all those boats taken out, and
if we have to, we'll attack on land. Also again
he doubles down the pirate King of the Pentagon. Maybe

(01:17:04):
what they should do, you know, the casting around. They
can't call their football team the Washington Redskins anymore because
that's politically incorrect. They call them Commanders, So maybe they
should call them the Washington Pirates. I don't think there's
I don't think there's a football team. I've not really
paid attention for several decades there. But I don't think
there is a Raiders. I think still.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
But we're out of our depth here, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
That name was already taken. But I think Pirates is available.
I think there's a baseball team called the Pirates or something.

Speaker 9 (01:17:38):
The Orange Skins, and have that all implied?

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
The Orange Skins. That's right, piracy implied, raids implied. And
well I said before that Mark Kelly, who has been
given a golden opportunity to go up against Donald Trump
when Donald Trump is one hundred percent wrong, he blew

(01:18:03):
the opportunity, just like this CIA senator. He still can't
identify any illegal orders he says from Trump after the
video message to military personnel that they said, do not
follow illegal orders. Twelve days after telling military personnel that
they must disobey illegal orders, Mark Kelly of Arizona appeared

(01:18:24):
on NBC's Meet the Press and still couldn't name an
illegal order from Trump. He's not trying very hard. Actually
I could on all the list of them. Trump accused
the gang now known as the Seditious Six of sedition.
This is coming from the New American And I got
to say, I do not agree with the tone of

(01:18:45):
this article. The tone of this article from the New Americans.
Mike Kirkwood Also, it's a little bit poorly written. You know,
now known as the Seditious Six, accused them of seditions.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
Like, oh really, is that what he accused them of?
The Seditious Six?

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Well, you know, so how they call him a gang?
You want to see a gang, go look at Pentagon.
That's the murdering gang that we're talking about here, while
Medal of Honor recipient Dakota Mayer said that more than
once that the group was confusing young enlisted personnel. We
don't want to confuse them. We don't want them to
have to think about law and morality when they're out.

(01:19:19):
They're just follow orders, right Nurrenberg style politicians warning troops
about illegal orders that haven't happened is the same as
yelling fire in a theater, reckless, dangerous, and meant to
scare people. She said, Well, the actions in the Caribbean
are all illegal from the start. There's no declared war,
there is no justification to declare a war, so you

(01:19:44):
can start right there. Many veterans noted that troops don't
need to be reminded that they cannot obey illegal orders,
says the New American article. I disagree. Looks to me
like they do need to be reminded. They just murdered
people floating in the water. I tell you, I just

(01:20:05):
look at the conservative movement and I despise them as
much as I do the lefties out there who are
trying to groom little kids. They have different crimes that
they do, you know, and both sides, the leaders are
into pedophilia and rape, but they have different crimes that
Some of them want to mutilate children, others want to
mutilate people who are in the water. You tell me

(01:20:27):
the difference between the Republicans Democrats. I had some person said,
you know, David Knight just hates everybody. I hate these politicians.
I got to say, I despise what they do. Well,
so this is looking forward, he said, Kelly. He said,
what specific orders has he given? They're unlawfully, So well,
this is looking forward. I'm not gonna, you know, second

(01:20:49):
guess m on this illegal colonialism that he's got going
on down there in Venezuela. We know that it's about
the oil folks. There's no question about it from the
very get go, he said. But let me give you
a pass an outline of things that he has said
in twenty sixteen, said Kelly. Trump said that the US
military will follow his illegal orders he was given. He

(01:21:11):
was said something on the debate stage and was reminded
that that would be illegal, and he said the military
will not refuse his orders, regardless of whether they're legal
or not. You know, in the same way that he said,
I could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and these people
would still follow me. I can give ille illegal orders
and the military will still follow me. And then he

(01:21:32):
goes and gives illegal orders, and then he does shoot people,
not just on Fifth Avenue but everywhere with his poisonous vaccine. Anyway,
he said, the military will not refuse his order, regardless
of whether they're illegal or not. He also talked about
shooting protesters in the legs how an American? How unconstitutional
is that? Fortunately there was a secondary defense to stop this.

(01:21:56):
He's also talked about sending troops into US cities to
use those cities and people for training. He said, so
this is a simple message, follow the law, and it
was looking forward. They did a follow up question to him,
this is a veulker and meet the press. She said, well,
let me talk to you about some of what's happening
right now. The Washington Post reporting that heg seth gave

(01:22:19):
in order to kill everybody. Are you calling for US
service members to actively disobey orders like those? He said, Well,
if orders are illegal, not only do they not follow them,
they're legally required not to follow them. So do you
think that constitutes an illegal order? She asked, well, I
think that needs to be investigated. Seriously, you, as a

(01:22:44):
senator don't have the courage to call this out. How
do you expect people, the rank and file guys who
are out there, how do you expect them to have
the courage to stand against this.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
I've said this over.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
And over again with people with parents who say, well,
I'm sending my kids to school to be and light
to the other kids in the school. I said, do
you understand the circumstances that are there. They're not on
a peer to peer relationship with a teacher, and there's
a lot of peer pressure against them, but there's also

(01:23:14):
this authority figure pressure on them. You're sending them into
a spiritual war they haven't been properly trained and equipped for.

Speaker 4 (01:23:22):
We don't use child soldiers, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
And yet you know here is Kelly saying, well, I
think the soldiers need to push back against orders when
they're in the field. But I'm too afraid to even
criticize what Donald Trump has already done, not even what
he has proposed that he could do. So again, you're

(01:23:46):
required not to follow these orders, just like the Nazi
machine gun guy. Okay, he's the one who actually killed them.
He's responsible, but so is the guy who gave him
the orders responsible for that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
He says.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
As for what I would happen to military personnel who
refused to obey orders that they consider illegal, Kelly admitted
that that would be their problem. He doesn't have the
guts to do it, but he expects him to. Asked
whether he would obey an order to sink a drug boat,
Kelly said he's never questioned an order during his career,
and he had, he said, attacked boats during the First

(01:24:20):
Gulf War. And again, he has also never questioned an
illegal Democrat war. He has never questioned the unconstitutional drug
war either. He is a man who has no courage, unfortunately,
and neither does this CIA Senator Alissa Slotkin from Michigan.

(01:24:43):
She was asked, so do you believe President Trump has
issued any illegal orders? He's asked that on ABC News
and she said, to my knowledge, I'm not aware of
things that are illegal. There you go, so they are
writing checks that they are afraid to cash, they're telling.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
Other people illegal.

Speaker 9 (01:25:02):
What's that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Work for the CIA? We don't never see anything legal. Yeah,
if I douligen, I'd have to kill you. The admiral
who ordered the follow up strike on the alleged drug
boats is going to brief lawmakers tomorrow, so we'll see
what happens when that talk about that on Friday. The
US military is becoming more and more religious. However, as

(01:25:26):
the nation remains more secular and moves in the opposite
direction that all begs the question as to what is
religious right? Is it attending church? And that's what the
metric is here. They look strictly at church attendants. What
percentage of people go once a week, what percentage of
people go once a month, what percentage of people go
more than once a week to church? Number of military

(01:25:49):
personnel who attended church weekly is increased from twenty one
percent in twenty ten to twenty eight percent. And this
is looking at a demographic that is increasingly moving away
from church, eighteen to forty five year olds.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
They looked at the.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
People who are not in the military.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
They said.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
During the same time period, the number of surveyed civilians
who attended church weekly stayed at sixteen percent, while those
who attended more than once declined from nine percent to
seven percent. So they said the devotional military members has
gone up while the rest of the population has moved
more secular. I guess it's because, as they say, there's

(01:26:33):
no atheists in foxholes, you know. But when you look
at church attendance, there was a lot of talk about
the fact that warpeak was a part of this church
plant in Washington, d c. From Doug Wilson, and I
got to say, there needs to be some accountability there.
There needs to be some instruction. So what's going on,
Because it's more than wearing your faith on your sleeve

(01:26:56):
or tattooing it on your arms. You are not following
the way, you're not following Christ. We need to do this,
and we need to call this out. Whether it's people
who are excusing genocide for the Israeli government or it's
people who are excusing these war crimes for the Pentagon.

(01:27:19):
I'm not going to have any part of it, and
I hope you don't either. We need to call this out.
If we profess Christ, we need to call these people
out for what they're doing. I don't want to see
this done in my name. You know, there's a lot
of people who are Jewish who don't like what NETANYAHUO
is doing in their name, and I don't like what
the American government is doing in my name. I don't

(01:27:40):
support this at all. Some people are excusing its Venezuelan war,
these war crimes and this colonialism, just like they defend
the Gaza genocide. And you know, you can throw these
terms around, like genocide and colonialism and stuff. And this case,
the shoe fits and we should make them wear it.

(01:28:02):
You got some comments here, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
Right, three little birds as I refuse to use pronouns.
Was fired for it from a top five worldwide company
who was defended by Littler Mendelssohn, the largest employment law firm. Well, well,
good luck with that. Good luck.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
I'm sorry about that. Yes, thank you for standing on
your principles. Yeah, that's the key thing, you know. And
I'll just say to you that I've talked to so
many people after what has happened in twenty twenty in
twenty twenty one, where Biden was using economic pressure to

(01:28:35):
get corporations to force this injection on people in the
military was doing it as well. And I've talked to
so many people. The ones who don't have regrets are
the ones who did not cave, and many of them
wound up. It's not a guarantee, but many of them
wound up with better circumstances than they would have had
if they'd remained at that company. So sometimes, you know,

(01:28:57):
it's just like we tell kids when they're dating. You know,
sometimes if you get rejected, you might look back at
that at a later date and say, that was a
good thing. I really dodged a bullet there. I didn't
realize it. I've had in my life many things that
I really thought I wanted, and looking back on I
realized just how bad and harmful that would have been

(01:29:17):
if I'd actually gotten what I wanted.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
Defy Tire in seventeen seventy six says DK. Don't you
think the seal team who murdered the people clinging to
the boat wreck it should be put on trial for murder?

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Yes, the court martials. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that'd be the approach.
As Napolitano said, you know, the war crimes, that's what
you should put Trump and hegseth on trial. For the
military people from the admiral on down to the people
pull the trigger. They should be brought up on court
martial because the civilian while does not apply to them, So, yeah,

(01:29:53):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:29:53):
He says it's not the order givers who are the
most responsible, it's the order followers.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Yeah. I mean that guy didn't you have to pull
the machine gun trigger when he shot the prisoners who
were no threat to anybody.

Speaker 8 (01:30:04):
Right, I would say that. I think it's the other
way around that. Ultimately, it's the order of givers that
are the most responsible, and it's not just to go
after the followers and not the givers.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
Solo Cat nineteen eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
It rots from the head down, It really does.

Speaker 4 (01:30:23):
Yes, sorry, yeah, says Trump and hag Seth don't want
any survivors from their boat strikes. I've been able to
testify against them. Dead men tell no tales.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
That's right, that's right, absolutely right. But they did pick
up one survivor after one of these incidents. But I
do think that's a big part of it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
Dead guys don't prosecute Wally Walrus. You have to declare
war before there can be fog. This is the fog
of perpetual conflict. Executive action. What do we call cel
Bogus says, when was war declared? And like we were saying,
three little birds, it was declared in the fog got

(01:31:06):
lots of fog, lots of fog scaring everything. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Trump does get a little bit foggy at times, doesn't he.
Actually there was an article done about it, and it
was like the funniest thing I've heard Colbert say. And
I can't remember when, but they were talking about the
fact they got the MRI and people were asking Trump
what it was, and goes, I don't know what they
did it. It wasn't the brain. I passed those cognitive

(01:31:31):
tests with flying colors and everything. And then he had
his physician come out and say, well, men his age,
we like to get an MRI of general cardiovascular and
abdominal health and things like that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Colbert said, you know what else is good for the
health of men his age? Retirement? That was fun anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:31:55):
Brian and Deb McCartney says, drugs of mass distraction. Yeah,
Trump Berger, I can guarantee there were no drugs or money.
There was no drugs or money was on the boats.
The CIA would have taken that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Off first, That's right. Yeah, you want to go to
the real source of all this stuff. It's not the
cartel of the sons, it's the cartel of the intelligence
agencies out there, the CIA.

Speaker 4 (01:32:17):
Yeah, the cartel of the sovs Defy tyrants seventeen seventy six.
Government trying to stop people from hurting themselves by willingly,
willingly taking harmful drugs, yet forced them to take deadly vaccines. Lol,
can't make this crap up? Well, they want to be
the ones to get you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
That's a good point. Yeah, the symmetry I've talked about
how how in many ways, uh, this is like twenty
twenty and what Trump was able to do with all
the absurd lies that he pushed to people. And yet
you know, gonna kill you by forcing you to take drugs,
But they're going to kill other people supposedly to protect

(01:32:55):
the people who are willingly going to take these drugs.
That's the amazing Of course, CIA running the poppy feels
so they could have flood the country with an opioid epidemic.
Nobody connected the dots to that, and the mainstream media
or most of the alternative media either pause.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
An avante is seventeen seventy six. Bottom line, a government
unbound by the chains of the constitution and armed to
the teeth is much more dangerous than any scourge of drugs.
I agree, a Syrian girl. It's so absurd because she
is sucking up to the DC criminals. I don't believe
Kelly has any normal human empathies there for sale to
the highest bidder. Yeah, I mean you could kind of
see that there. She doesn't have remorse, and she doesn't

(01:33:33):
even have any excitement. She's just saying things. She's just
reading off a script. I don't think she believes anything
she says or ever has.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
She wants attention. She wants attention. That's the reality of it.
She'll do anything for it, say anything for it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
Possom King, Kelly did illegal bombing himself.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:33:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
I never questioned any orders I kill anybody they tell me.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
To you, Yeah, you just tell me who where when
Public Rising eighty three. The truth is there is a
build up of a culture of disregard for ethical combat law.
It's championed by heroic special forces types, and it comes
along with mission creep and undeclared unlawful conflict. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
When you look at what the seal teams are really
set up to do, they're set up to go kill
people without a declaration of war. And that's that's basically
where this all comes from. It's a real we all
look at it. It's amazing what these guys can do.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
But it's.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Like Michael Crichton Jurassic Park. You know, just because you
can do it doesn't mean you should do it right.
You should have those skills be great if you're using
it defensively against people that are actually attacking us, but
if you go out there playing James Bond killing people
that we've not gone to war with, people that are
not even a threat to us. Again, going back to

(01:34:49):
that mission in twenty nineteen where they killed all of
those North Korean fishermen just because they're afraid they might
say something.

Speaker 4 (01:34:56):
You know, Wally Walris says my on his twenty three
and he is getting ready for the army because he
sees no future and is seeking financial security. Gen Z
sees no future for themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
Yeah, it's a hard time. It's been slowly getting worse
and worse. Gen Z is now at that age where
some of them are fully out of high school and
getting out of college and they just they're realizing, oh,
everything I was promised is a lie. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Yeah, we're going to talk about that when we come
back the mom and pop businesses are going bankrupt at
a record amount.

Speaker 4 (01:35:33):
And of course this is the economy is doing great.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
This is part two of Trump's attack on Middle America
and Main Street. He loves Wall Street, but he doesn't
care about us. We are non essential.

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
Hi Boost says. This is literally WMD's all over again
by the same war mongering GOP making up a fake
boogeyman to start a fake war.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
And of course who was it that sold all the
stuff and who oversaw the torture and then covered it
upsal and who did he? Who did Trump make his
head of CIA during his first administration, Gina Haspbell. So
he campaigns and saying that, you know, the Iraq war
was based on a bunch of lies, and the other
politicians were afraid to say that, just like Mark Kelly

(01:36:15):
is afraid to say that this operation's whole operation Downovan
as well is illegal. So the other politicians were afraid
to say that it was a war based on a lie.
Trump says it, and then he puts the liar in
chief in charge of the CIA.

Speaker 4 (01:36:33):
ABU says, Dick Cheney is upset. He isn't alive so
he could participate. Yeah, and he says, is Tony Blair
and w Bush advising Trump? Yeah that's right. Yeah, same
as it ever was.

Speaker 2 (01:36:45):
They're set up to make a lot of money off
of what's going on in Ukraine these other places. Once
the shooting start stops, they will go in with their
reconstruction stuff. We're going to take a quick break, folks,
and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
Well, Bloomberg reports the mom and pop business Bankruptcy's hit
a record as debts rise. Well, the debts rising is
an effect, not really the cause of all this stuff,
And it's kind of interesting they said that there was
and I wasn't aware of this. I knew about the
Cares Act and these other things that were supposedly going
to help people who are losing their jobs, and people

(01:39:47):
were losing their small businesses because they didn't have access
to unlimited amounts of capital on Wall Street. You know,
these people operate outside of market realities. And I know
that firsthand because we operated for a very long time
against Blockbuster Video. As soon as they were bought by Viacom,
the parent company of CBS and Paramount, they never turned

(01:40:13):
to profit and they continue to operate for twenty years,
and they operated very with very predatory policies against mom
and pop stores. Where we were, they would pick one
store and they would open up right in front of them. Everywhere,
they spend fambuless amounts of money to buy an out

(01:40:34):
parcel so they could get in front of the store
that was already there in line. And they did that
to put people out of business. And they were able
to do that even though they were losing money.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
When Trump said mom and pop stores were non essential,
what he was essentially doing was recapping what Hillary Clinton
said when she was trying to push through Hillary Care.
People said, you know, small businesses are going to be
killed by what you're proposing. She said, I can't be
bothered by all of these under capitalized small businesses.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
So if you're a little who cares, not Hillary, not Trump.
And so as Trump was pushing this lockdown and the
first wave of massive disaster from main street and mom
and pop, they also were very kind to put in
a federal program that was designed to help the smallest
American businesses cut debt and get a fresh start. To

(01:41:33):
help you to declare bankruptcy without going through the bankruptcy courts.
You could have something that they called a sub Chapter
five made it cheaper and faster to go through bankruptcy
rather than having to go through the existing structure that
was there. Wasn't that nice of them? You know, Trump
does the lockdowns and says that you're non essential, and

(01:41:56):
then they set up a new way for you to
declare encruptcy to streamline the process. Isn't that nice? Maybe
what they were thinking of was how to streamline the
process so they didn't clog the bankruptcy courts. And so
now that has been in effect for six years, going
back to when Trump did that back in twenty twenty. Now,

(01:42:18):
high borrowing costs, cautious consumers, and the Trump administration's trade
war are weighing in on the earnings for the small businesses. Again,
we said this is going to happen from the very beginning.
It's pretty obvious. A year to date, these sub Chapter
five cases have increased more than eight percent tw tw
twenty one. At the same time, Chapter eleven petitions are

(01:42:41):
up about one percent to a little more than six
thousand and so. The sub Chapter five program began in
twenty twenty as a way to let individuals and small
businesses with less than seven million dollars in debt avoid
the cost and delay of using the traditional reorganization process.
So come in and they say you're not essential, you

(01:43:03):
will own nothing, but hey, we're gonna make you happier.
We're going to take away some of the paperwork for
you going bankrupt. How about that. That's the way that
Trump helped people. You know, this whole Cares Act thing
a massive, massive fraud, and yet apart from the overall
fraud aspect of it was the fraud of Trump saying

(01:43:24):
that it was relief for small businesses. More than fifty
percent of the money went to less than five percent
of the applicants, and it was the big businesses that
got the line's share. And I reported on this over
and over again as it was happening in twenty one
twenty twenty two. You had these people who had small
service businesses, retail type of thing, mom and pop stores,

(01:43:47):
and they said they couldn't get anything from the banks. Meanwhile,
you got the they redefined Trump redefined what the definition
of a small business was. So small business before that
was business that had fewer than five hundred employees, and said, well,
we'll make that fewer than five hundred employees per location,
so all of his hotels qualified for it. Aren't that nice? Well,

(01:44:10):
the Trump tariffs are also going to make toys more
expensive this Christmas shopping season. Ba humbug. I guess we
go from orange man tore from green man to orange man.

Speaker 4 (01:44:20):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
Grinch.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
In Trump's first term, he exempted many Chinese toys and
household items from tariff hikes. This time, they're going to
be subjected to a thirty percent import tax. And it
is amazing the amount of toys that we saw when
we were in China. We went to a was that

(01:44:45):
toy market, I guess, But it's like this giant warehouse
with all these individual vendors that were there.

Speaker 4 (01:44:50):
Amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
I've never seen anything like that.

Speaker 4 (01:44:51):
Just they had all their little stalls set up and
they were just packed in and.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
We bought a lot of little trinkets and stuff so
that we could. We knew it was going to be
difficult for her daughter because she didn't speak English. We're
going to explain to her what was happening. She's going
to be on a very long plane flight. And so
Karen planted out bought all these little trinkets and she's
going to introduce these new toys to her a little
bit at a time. On the trip back, we had
to go through TSA, and TSA confiscated every single one

(01:45:18):
of those toys. Don't you love TSA? I mean, just fantastic.
And as they're pulling these things out of the bag,
she's looking at I'm like, oh, oh, you know, I
know you can't have that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:26):
Thrown it away and that started her off right there.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
Anyway, Santa Claus might be able to evade customs checkpoints
in TSA as he magically snuggles toys into the country,
But I don't know we're going to get the Customs
and Border Patrol after him. Maybe they'll show up the
next day with a form telling you that you got
to pay the tariffs on it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:51):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
I'm sorry, is this from the North Pole? What did
Trump put on the North Pole? I mean he did
have Remember McDonald's Island. I remember that because it's like
Trump beats there, doesn't he But he put teriffs on
McDonald's Island, which has nothing but penguins.

Speaker 4 (01:46:06):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
I wouldn't need tearraff the North Pole, even though there's
no Santa Claus there.

Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
Right this year, when they do that phony thing where
they track Santa Claus around, You're gonna have Pete hag
Seth come on and just be.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
Like shoot him down, shoot him down, now kill everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:46:20):
Yeah, and then Megan Kelly kill everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
It'd be like the beginning of screwge right where they
have Do.

Speaker 8 (01:46:28):
You have any idea how many magical reindeer he had
pulling a slate.

Speaker 9 (01:46:32):
You don't need that many for just delivering toys.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
No, that, but look at all the elf slave labor
we could have that slave labor here in the United States.
Doesn't matter. We can't it no matter what people, But
they allow that to happen anyway, Importance from China, where
the basic toys and most basic toys and games are made,
will now be subject to a thirty percent tariff. And
guess what that's going to be passed on to you.
He put a fifteen percent tariff on Japan and lo

(01:46:57):
and behold, it's just a coincidence. I'm sure Nintendo said
that they are going to be raising prices by fifteen percent,
but they don't pass the tarassan right, they absorbed them.
It's going to be paid by Nintendo. He's going to
be paid by Japan. No, it's going to be paid
by the consumers. It's a tax on you. One of

(01:47:19):
the biggest tax increases in the history of America by
this tax and spend Democrat from New York, Donald Trump. Anyway,
maybe the children, he said, we'll have two dollars instead
of thirty dollars, says the man who played house with
little girls and Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 4 (01:47:35):
Yeah, just.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
So again he did call out Tim Waltz, not for
being a criminal, but for being retarded.

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
I guess he's retarded because he got caught.

Speaker 4 (01:47:47):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
So now a SMALLI run election scheme is breaking on
local news there you got a lot of people whistleblowers
saying that they told Waltz about this, but they were
shut down. Many of them were threatened over this stuff
instead of action being taken. Benny Johnson tweeted out. He said,
over four hundred Minnesota Department of Human Services employees have

(01:48:11):
accused Governor Waltz of ignoring widespread smally community fraud warnings
and retaliation against whistleblowers. After months of reports of whistleblowers
were ignored or punished, and after the state watched more
than a billion taxpayer dollars disappear into the black abyss
of shell nonprofits and fake meal programs. Waltz is officially

(01:48:36):
under investigation. Washington was forced to step in because Minnesota's
own leadership refused to protect its citizens and its money.
And I imagine a lot of this money is coming
from Washington, so they can say that it was mismanagement
of federal funds. A major House committee and the Treasury

(01:48:57):
Department have opened investigations. In the early states coming out
of Congress are well quite blistering, to say the least.
And one person, Kevin Dalton, has said, well, I know
everybody's angry about Tim Waltz and the billion dollar welfare
fraud in Minnesota, but I find it strange that nobody
seems to be talking about the fifty billion dollars and

(01:49:19):
welfare fraud that Gavin Newsom has a mast in California.
And we'll just wait. They will be talking about it,
probably waiting until they get a little bit closer to
the election. That's the same kind of thing that they
did with Hunter Biden's laptop, and we knew about that
long before it became a mainstream Republican narrative, and they

(01:49:44):
did that, they did it too late, and then of
course it got covered up. And if they had done
it earlier, they might have been able to fight back
against the mainstream media and the government cover up of
the Hunter Biden laptop issue. But they probably do this
same thing with Newsom weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:50:01):
You've got to pace yourself in revealing your enemy's scandals.
The American public has such a short attention span. If
you start talking about Gavin Newsom, now by the time
he's actually a threat, no one will care anymore. He's
already inoculated against it. Nothing ever happens to these people.
They simply get trotted out and the public looks at
them and goes, oh, yeah, that was bad, and then
they go back to whatever they were doing.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
Schools have thought about that, you know. One of the
schools of thought is that, well, we're going to drop
this on like election night eve, you know, some scandalous
thing about somebody. They did that with I think it
was John McCain. They made some statement about how he
had an illegitimate black baby or something like that, which
was totally mischaracterization of what had happened. I don't know

(01:50:42):
if that was him right. Anyway, they do that type
of thing, you know, wait till the very last minute,
like you're in some kind of an online auction.

Speaker 4 (01:50:48):
You know, we depend in the bid. We got to
snipe in with a scandal right at the last second.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
But the other part of it is, if you're going
to throw out something that's got a little bit of
a spainen to do, you better give yourself enough time
to explain it, and you better give yourself enough time
to counter explain it when the other people come back
with their excuses for it. Gop Senator is saying that
the Minnesota governor should be jailed over these fraud allegations.

(01:51:15):
And this is Tommy. I think it is Tubberville. I'm
not sure if it's tub tubber. I think it's tubber
I think somebody corrected me with that. I don't listen
to TV news, I just read it, so I sometimes
I don't understand how to pronounce these names. I put
the emphasis on the wrong salable with some of these people.

Speaker 4 (01:51:34):
Bet if they wanted the names pronounced correctly, they should
have them spelled phonetically, he said.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
Tim Waltz is directly responsible all upper case for the
all upper case one billion dollars in fraud. That is
funding all upper case Islamic terrorists. Oh, that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:51:55):
And then you know, we look at this. Lou Rockwell had.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
An obed piece about hate speech, made it to zero Hedge.
He said, you know what is hate speech? Well, and
we're told that it is negative remarks about various groups,
including women, Blacks, homosexuals, Jews, Muslims. It's alleged have a
negative effect on members of the group who hear or

(01:52:19):
who see the speech, and it encourages people to hate them,
and it cements negative stereotypes about them in people's minds.
Free speech may have some value, they say, but whatever
value it has has been outweighed by the evil of
the hate speech. Almost any group can claim to be

(01:52:39):
victimized by hate speech, except for white, heterosexual males and Christians.
But hate speech applies primarily to members of these so
called protected classes. Lou walkerl says, from a libertarian standpoint,
question of banding so called hate speech is a no brainer.

Speaker 3 (01:52:57):
You don't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
Banning any kind of speech, whether it's good or bad,
is incompatible with a free society. Yes, that's absolutely true.
As a matter of fact, we had Trump here's his
definition of hate speech that he gave us just recently.

Speaker 17 (01:53:15):
What do you make Pam BONDI sayings us going to
go out for hate speech?

Speaker 9 (01:53:19):
Is that?

Speaker 15 (01:53:19):
I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:53:19):
Fart of people out of your allies say hate speech
is free speech.

Speaker 17 (01:53:22):
You should probably go after people like you because you
treat me so unfairly.

Speaker 14 (01:53:26):
It's hate.

Speaker 17 (01:53:27):
You have a lot of hate in your heart. Maybe
if you're a met for ABC. Well, ABC paid me
sixteen million dollars recently for a form of hate speech. Right,
your company paid me sixteen million dollars for a form
of hate speech, So maybe they'll have to go after you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
Yeah, none of that is true. It just shows what
utter contempt Trump has for the Constitution Bill Rights, doesn't it?
What does it say in the Bill Rights? Congress shall
make no law abridging the freedom of speech, As Lou
rock Well says, no law means no law. But of

(01:54:04):
course these laws if you've got executive orders like Trump,
or if you can do lawfair like Trump, or if
you can use the FCC to threaten and blackmail people
into settling with your personal lawsuit that includes laws against
so called hate speech. And we're in a difficult situation

(01:54:27):
with this, so you know, we'll talk about what's going on.
Javier Malai converted to Judaism, and not just any Judaism,
but to the Chabad Lubovich sect, and he has switched
around Argentina from being one of the biggest critics of
Israel to being one of the most fawning followers of Israel.

(01:54:48):
And so he's coming up with something that he calls
the Isaac Accords, coming after the Abraham Accords. Again, right,
I wonder who's going to be sacrificed in the Isaac Accords,
But yeah, he knows where his bread is buttered, and
he's going to be able to get a lot of
money and other things from Israel for pushing their interests.

(01:55:12):
As a matter of fact, I look at this and
I think perhaps this is the answer as to why
this guy who is you know, he's hanging out with
Trump and Trump likes him and everything. But look at
what Trump did. How the Trump administration gave him twenty
billion dollars in said, and we're going to arrange for
another twenty billion dollars and private funds to be put together.

(01:55:33):
Maybe that's going to be some of the Jewish billionaire
friends of Trump to put together money for them. But
perhaps that is why he gets such special treatment and
moves to the front of the line instead of anything
being done for the farmers or for the ranchers.

Speaker 3 (01:55:48):
In this country.

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
And I think that I've not seen anything about the
alleged promises of helping the farmers who've been hurt by
this trade war that Trump has created. You had China
come back and agree to buy some more soybeans from
American farmers, but that lasted for like a week or

(01:56:12):
so and then they stopped it again. So it was
just virtue signaling to Trump so he could declare a victory.

Speaker 4 (01:56:21):
But he.

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
Puts CA Israel first.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
He puts anybody who is an ally of Israel head
of the American farmers and ranchers. The ISAAC Accords are
being promoted in partnership with Washington. They're modeled after the
Abraham Accords, which normalize relations between Israel and several Arab countries,
including the UAE, Baran, bahrain I, should Say, and Morocco.

(01:56:48):
Malaiy said Argentina would serve as a quote pioneer alongside
the US to promote the new framework to other Latin
American countries including Uruguay, Panama in Costa Rica. So there
you go.

Speaker 3 (01:57:02):
This is the.

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
Kind of colonialism that the Israelis do. Our colonialism is
what you see happening in Venezuela. We just go in
and kill everybody and take the oil. They have a
much more subtle way of buying influence and buying control
of other countries. Foreign Minister of Israel Gideon Sar praise
Malai's love of Judaism.

Speaker 4 (01:57:23):
He said.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
That Malai transformed Argentina from a critic of Israel to
one of its staunchest supporters. That was actually said by
the Times of Israel. He was raised a Catholic, but
he is now converted to Judaism and is paying off
handsomely for him.

Speaker 4 (01:57:41):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:57:42):
There's how Israel is blessing people. They bless the politicians
who do what they say. They bless them with money
and other things, them with underage girls and massad agents
and all kinds of wonderful goodies.

Speaker 4 (01:57:59):
I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
Argentine officials said that possible joint projects with Israel in
the field of fields of technology, security and economic development
are already under consideration. They'll teach them how to surveil
their people and control them. Well, there's an op ed
piece on RT from Rachel Marsden, the Epstein Israel link

(01:58:22):
that nobody wants you to take seriously while trafficking young girls.
He was also part of the effort to export military
grade systems to governments around the world. And that's what
this is really about, these isaacaccords, Right, They're going to
pay off Javier Malay with this kind of stuff. It's
just more of the Jeffrey Epstein issues.

Speaker 4 (01:58:43):
She said.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
When I first moved to New York, I walked into
my new dentist's office, and I genuinely wondered whether I
had accidentally wandered onto a victorious secret audition. Jeffrey was
Jeffrey there, Alex Wexner, the waiting room.

Speaker 4 (01:58:58):
Rich Jewish potential pedophile was it?

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
Who knows the way? The waiting room, she said, was
full of stunning young women. Eventually I learned the dentist
shared space with a modeling agency. You couldn't tell who
was getting veneers and who was getting a contract until
you were halfway down the hallway. Epstein's whole operation was
like a perverted crossover episode of Law and Order. Meet's

(01:59:22):
House of Cards. The salacious half got all the airtime,
but the geopolitical part seems to largely ended up in
the cutting room floor. Jeremy Scahill's drop site News recently
published inbox receipts showing that in two thousand and six,
Epstein teamed up with lawyer Alan Dershowitz to smack down

(01:59:43):
quote the Israeli lobby and US foreign policy unquote by
John Meersheimer and Stephen Walt. Dershowitz wrote that the rebuttal
wrote the rebuttal that he called debunking the newest and
oldest Jewish conspiracy. So Hersheimer and Stephen Walt do the
Israel lobby and US foreign policy, and he does the rebuttal.

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Epstein blasted it out to his rich and powerful pals,
perhaps a little light reading en route to Epstein Island,
or while being rubbed down by a member of Epstein's Harem.
The moment anyone points out that a certain foreign government
might be exercising influence, there's always someone who starts shouting
about bigotry and playing the race card. And I've said

(02:00:28):
it before and I'll say it again. If you criticize
a government that is not racism. And we're criticizing the government,
and they're Jewish people who criticize Net and Yahoo and
his government. As a matter of fact, he just had
to make the case that he wants a pardon. And
why is that he's asking the Israeli president for pardon.

(02:00:50):
Trump has has asked the same people to pardon Net
and Yahoo. What is it that he's doing that he
needs a pardon for? And again its internal issues. He
was not very popular in Israel. He's much more popular
on Capitol Hill. The seven richest billionaires are all Zionists

(02:01:12):
who are using the CIA to control the media's as
Brian shaw Hobby Alan mcleoud of mint Press News has
written about another excellent investigative report focusing on the current
big tech billionaires. We're all buying up legacy corporate media companies. Again,
this is Clarry Ellison and he has not only bought

(02:01:35):
the paramount stuff and all the subordinate properties there, but
he's moving to also get Warner and that would be CNN.
He's angling for CNN here. This is the new conservatism
that's attempting to silence any opposition to their Zionist agendas.
A handful of us determine what will be on the

(02:01:57):
evening news in the broadcast, or for that matter, in
the New York Times, Washington Post or Wall Street Journal. Indeed,
it is a handful of us with this awesome power,
strongly editorial power, and that is coming from Walter Cronkite,
who said that we have to decide which news items
out of hundreds of available we are going to expose

(02:02:18):
that day. And those news stories available to us already
have been called and recalled by persons who are far
outside our control. Well, Walter Cronkite said that at the
same time he was really participating in the operation mockingbird stuff.
So is this a cry for help? Was he blinking
say help, I'm under control? Blinking in a Morse code

(02:02:42):
to tell people that he was under the control of
the CIA. Well, the paramount sky Dance, the Ellison owned company,
of course, has moved very quickly to put a very
strong Zionist in charge of their news organization, Barry Weiss.
And this is to be a consolidation of media like

(02:03:03):
we have not seen before. You know, we remember years
and years ago we talked about how there was like
five companies and how there used to be dozens of
news organizations all consolidated down at that point in time,
five companies that were getting the studios, just like you know,
Viacom had Paramount studios and had CBS as well, So

(02:03:25):
you saw that kind of consolidation. Now they're moving to
bring into the consolidation tent social media, and that's what
Olsen is working on as well now. But not just that,
but then taking these these conglomerate holding companies that were
already really concentrated and then taking over another one of those,

(02:03:50):
like Time Warner CNN companies, and he wants to take
that over as well. It's really amazing when you look
at how consolidated it has become and how they're wanting
to control information. So we really do appreciate your support here.
We try to do the best that we can to
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they have to say, we question it, and we should
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But the narratives that are going to be generated, it's
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And we're going to take a quick break and I

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have some names that I want to read as well
before we take the break, But go ahead.

Speaker 4 (02:04:35):
And mark you on Twell says every legislator that went
along with the COVID fraud, and every member of the
military who fought in illegal wars has blood in their hands,
so no surprise they want to accuse OTHERSWD sixty eight.
You must first start the war to end the war
Nibaru twenty nine. Major General Smedley Butler stated the truths
of all wars. Three Little Birds, says fighting pro say,

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after my lawyer from the Alliance defending freedom was bought
out by another law firm overseen by Littler Mendelssohn, freedom
of religion and speech is dead.

Speaker 3 (02:05:08):
Wow scone.

Speaker 4 (02:05:09):
Collo rose Gardens says seals used to be hostage rescue
team like Dutch and Predator.

Speaker 2 (02:05:17):
Dutch compreeditor the character Yeah Dutch was well he ain't
got time to bleed now.

Speaker 4 (02:05:24):
I ain't got timed. I don't remember which character.

Speaker 2 (02:05:30):
Was it Jesse Ventura that said that, Yeah, I don't
remember which I don't know if he was Dutch, and
I don't remember that that well, I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (02:05:37):
I don't remember the names of the guys. I know
there's Arnold Ventura and that other I can never remember
the black actors name he was in.

Speaker 2 (02:05:48):
He was in that Rocky movie. Yeah he was Apollo Creed. Yeah,
almost had his name, but I'm getting old.

Speaker 4 (02:05:55):
I drove it off. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:05:56):
We do our best we can. But I do have
some names here that are member, and I have seen
these names over and over again because it's usually the
same people who contribute to make this program go, people
like Gretchen Thank you very much, Alexander W. Maurice G.
Julie W. Mary Moore, Sean Savka, Susan L.

Speaker 12 (02:06:19):
Kenneth C.

Speaker 3 (02:06:21):
Rose G.

Speaker 2 (02:06:22):
Julie W. Gregory, I, Benjamin R. Michael P. Thank you
to all these people. These are people who contributed on ZELL.
Susan L. Michael P, Sally O, Mitchell, M, Michael P.
Gretchen C again, Amy B, Peter, Adam D. Lewis, N. Lewis,

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I sorry, Susan L. Matthew M. Gregory C, Susan L.
Scott L, Terrence D. Lisa Kay and thank you Lisa.
That was I've seen your name here many times, so
that was a very generous contribution. I appreciate that. At
the end of the month.

Speaker 3 (02:07:05):
Ronald H.

Speaker 2 (02:07:07):
Marilyn G. Ryan F, Janice W. William D. William W.
And Michael L. Thank you so much, all of you.
And that is those are people who have contributed on
ZELL and I had not mentioned their names until since
the beginning of since the beginning of November, I can't

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reach this thing here and Karen just handed me people
who have contributed in terms of checks and Jony S.
Thank you very much. I appreciate that that is I
believe was that Karen didn't write that down, but I
believe that a new contributor and a very large contribution.

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I believe that was the name that was there. Matthew H,
Lois L and Gary B. Thank you so much. Those
are people who contributed by checks. And while we're here
doing the roll call of people who produce the show,
because that is what produces the show, the people who

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write the checks, I want to thank those on cash app.
It's a shortlist who contributed on cash app this month.
Christopher Jason, J. Dustin W.

Speaker 3 (02:08:27):
Brian P. Jeffrey A. Francis E.

Speaker 4 (02:08:31):
Dave W.

Speaker 2 (02:08:33):
Hollis H. Thank you very much. And the bottom line
is that we finished the month just over eighty percent,
and so I really do appreciate all of your support.
It worked out much better than we were thinking was
going to work out, and that came in at the
very last part of the month, and so we really

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do appreciate that. Thank you very much. We're going to
take a quick break, folks, and we will be right back.

Speaker 3 (02:09:02):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (02:09:02):
Oh yes, and we're going to be right back with
Eric Peters, who is our guest.

Speaker 3 (02:09:06):
So stay with us.

Speaker 2 (02:09:08):
We're going to talk about mobility and liberty, which we
should always be thinking about.

Speaker 3 (02:09:13):
We'll be right back.

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Speaker 2 (02:10:38):
Joining us now and it's always a pleasure. I have
Eric on. It's been too long since we talked. Eric
Peters of Eric Petersautos dot com. A real soulmate when
it comes to the issues of liberty and mobility as
these companies like to call it, but you know, it's
really driving cars is what we think of.

Speaker 3 (02:10:57):
We think of mobility I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:10:59):
Not looking at getting into some self driving taxi, and
I'm not looking at I don't think of.

Speaker 4 (02:11:04):
That as mobility.

Speaker 2 (02:11:05):
I think of mobility as being able to use a
car to go where I want, when I want, and
not have to follow a schedule from some mass transportation
thing or get into a car that's owned by these
corporate conglomerates.

Speaker 3 (02:11:19):
But thank you for joining us, Eric, Oh, thank.

Speaker 4 (02:11:21):
You, David.

Speaker 12 (02:11:21):
I always enjoy being here. And by the way, whenever
I hear that word mobility, I almost think the wheelchairs. Yeah,
I'm that guy. Well, I enjoy driving, and.

Speaker 2 (02:11:29):
They want to break our legs, don't they. I mean,
they sure seem to want to.

Speaker 12 (02:11:33):
And it's really something, you know, when I think about
how this country has changed in that respect, just over
the course of the last forty years. You know, when
I was in high school, most guys loved cars, and
a lot of girls like cars too.

Speaker 4 (02:11:44):
That's right.

Speaker 12 (02:11:44):
Now, you know, they have succeeded so effectively in alienating
people from cars. I get it. You know, they become appliances,
they've become soulless, and on top of that, they become
just impossibly expensive for ordinary people to even consider buying anymore.
So no wonder people are turning off to cars and
that's unfortunate. Getting us back to this whole idea of mobility,

(02:12:05):
which really just means, as you said, being able to
just go where you want to go without being leashed,
you know, without without having to put your take your
hat off and beg for.

Speaker 2 (02:12:17):
Yeah, there's a song about that, you know, got to
go where you want to go, do what you want
to do?

Speaker 12 (02:12:24):
What happened to that America?

Speaker 4 (02:12:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:12:25):
What happened to that song? We don't hear that anymore.
It's kind of like the other thing we used to
say when when I was younger, people would say, somebody
say can I do this? And it's like, hey, so
a free country. You don't hear anybody say that anymore,
do you? No?

Speaker 12 (02:12:37):
I don't think that for anybody say that since probably
nine to eleven, in twenty five years now. But that's,
you know, at least that's a sign of psychological health.
At least people aren't so deluded as to think that
we still live in a free country.

Speaker 2 (02:12:49):
That's right, But they are deluded enough to think that
they should make a federal case out of everything. That
was the other thing Hey, don't make a federal case
out of it, you know, if somebody is making a
big deal out of it, But now we make a
federal case out of everything. Every problem must be solved
and managed by government, and it has to be done
by government at the highest level. And not even that,

(02:13:10):
but now it has to be done by the president,
who will save us from all evil.

Speaker 3 (02:13:15):
It's this messianic figure.

Speaker 4 (02:13:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:13:17):
I was just talking yesterday about this article out of
the Atlantic and they were talking about a study that
was done by some people of the UK. They came
the same conclusions that Strauss and how did about the
Fourth Turning. They went back five thousand years of history.
One of the things they said was, you know, the
corruption and the decay and institutions. But also people start

(02:13:38):
getting very messianic about their leaders. And I thought, yeah,
that's what I see all the time about MAGA. You know,
it's got to be Trump. He's got some special mission
from God, you know, he's specially annoint it and all
the rest of this stuff. It is truly amazing. They're
so desperate for a messiah that they'll even project that
onto somebody like Donald Trump's crazy.

Speaker 12 (02:13:59):
It's sometimes jaw dropping. I'm a professional writer, so usually
I'm not at a loss for words, but when it
comes to Trump, I often find my job hitting the floor.
My eyes bottle like cash Betel, And what am I
going to even say about this stuff?

Speaker 4 (02:14:14):
That's right? It really is amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:14:16):
Well, you told me when we were just connected, and
you said, there's some interesting news about Miata that I
don't think I'm going to like.

Speaker 3 (02:14:25):
What is that news?

Speaker 12 (02:14:27):
Well, just some background. The Miata has been around since
nineteen eighty nine. They introduced it as a ninety model,
and it has been for many decades, one of the
most successful models that MASTA has ever brought out. Because
anybody's driven one will tell you it's just it is
one of the most enjoyable fun cars that you can
possibly get and drive. The problem is that it's gotten

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to be pretty expensive. The current model twenty twenty five,
the base price is nearly thirty thousand dollars, and some perspective,
back in nineteen ninety it was just over thirteen thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (02:14:59):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (02:15:00):
Now, granted some of that as inflation, and some of that,
of course, are what I call compliance costs, you know,
having to have multiple airbags in the things, and all
of the other stuff that's been added to vehicles that
has been raising the cost. People talk about inflation, and
of course that's true, but the thing that's important to
understand is that people's earning power hasn't tracked with the

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devaluation of buying power. That's really what inflation is. So
back in nineteen ninety, regular Americans could afford to have
two cars or even more. You could afford to have
the fun car. They get the Miata as the weekend car,
the track car, the fun day car.

Speaker 3 (02:15:36):
Right, summer car. Yeah yeah, but they.

Speaker 12 (02:15:38):
Also had you know, you've got to have something that
has more than two doors and more than two seats.
If you've got kids, you've got a family, you're going
to need something that's practical. So they would buy the
practical car for that purpose, but they'd have the Miata
for fun. Well, now things have gotten to be so
tight that most people can only afford one car, if
they can even afford that. So there aren't many people
left who can still afford a thirty thousand dollars fun

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car like a Miada, and a thirty thousand dollars crossover
on top of that, and the cost of insurance and
everything else that goes along with it. So what are
they doing. Well, when you're faced with a choice between
the practical and the fund most people are going to
have to pick the practical. That's just the way life is.
So it's not that the Maata has lost its appeal.
The problem is that there are not enough people anymore

(02:16:20):
who can afford it to sustain the car as a
viable enterprise for Mazda, And so apparently that's why they're
thinking about canceling it.

Speaker 2 (02:16:28):
Wow, Well, I got mine. Yeah, as not, as long
as the government doesn't find some way to declare it
illegal on the streets.

Speaker 4 (02:16:36):
I'm okay with that, and I do have mine.

Speaker 2 (02:16:38):
And from a practical standpoint, there's this eric groceries have
gotten so expensive that about all we can fit in
the car will fit in the back of it.

Speaker 12 (02:16:47):
Groceries, won't it.

Speaker 4 (02:16:48):
That's right.

Speaker 12 (02:16:49):
And there's another facet to this that's kind of interesting.
An additional rumor is that they're not going to cancel it,
but what they're going to do is put a hybrid
drive train into it for the next generation. Our car
has been out since I think twenty sixteen, so it's
getting a little old, you know, in terms of product cycles,
and that the reason for that is the reason why
you're seeing so many hybrid vehicles now everything. It used

(02:17:10):
to be that there was the Prius and maybe one
or two other hybrid cars on the market, and they
were marketed chiefly toward people who really wanted hyper efficiency
above everything else. You know, there's a market for that.

Speaker 2 (02:17:21):
I want to a virtue your signal about their greenness
that too.

Speaker 12 (02:17:24):
And now you may have noticed if you look at
the new car landscape, practically everything is hybrided now, you know,
to some degree or another. It's either a mild hybrid
or full hybrid or something. And the reason for that,
of course, has to do with the federal government continuing
to require ever stricter mileage and so called emission standards,
which chiefly means carbon dioxide, that awful gas that plants
have used to metabolize and produce oxygen for us so

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that we breathe. Trump, by the way, today is supposedly
going to make an announcement about CAFE the corporate average
fuel economy standards, and we'll see whether it's any meaningful
reduction or simply to kind of riff On or Well's
nine ten eighty four. Remember when the people were so
happy because Big Brother had decided to increase the choc oration,
when in fact, of course it had been decreased. So

(02:18:10):
what they had been hinting at was that they were
going to just roll them back or keep them at
where they were in twenty twenty. Well, the reason everything's
being hybridized right now is precisely because the only way
to comply with the twenty twenty standards was to build
these hybrids, which cycle the engine off as often as
possible and put smaller and smaller engines in cars. It's
the only way that they can achieve compliance with these

(02:18:32):
federal dictacs. So unless we see them actually roll back significantly,
or better yet, eliminate it altogether, I think we're going
to see more and more hybrids, and we're also going
to see fewer and fewer interesting cars like the Miata
available for people.

Speaker 2 (02:18:46):
Well, in terms of what Trump is doing, anything less
than a complete shutdown of the cafe regime is not
anything that I would be favorable of or applaud. But
if they roll it back a little bit, uh, you know,
it'll be pushed back with the next one. What they
really need to do is to go back and change
the or get rid of Nixon's e p A and

(02:19:10):
take away their power to regulate air pollution. Right, that
is the emission standards that need to be that needs
to be taken away from the e p A, and
the e p A it needs to be shut down.
I mean, let's not just stop with the cafe rules.
Let's get rid of the e p A, and let's
get rid of this finding that they can they can

(02:19:30):
uh tell us about all these gases, because that is
a real fraud we've got.

Speaker 3 (02:19:35):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:19:35):
EV pollution is being ignored for this fake climate crisis
is the headline of a What's up uh that dot
com article? And it's absolutely true they ignore the pollution
from the EV's But I think the biggest glaring hypocrisy
with all of this, as in the past, been that
they would ignore the two biggest polluters on Earth, China

(02:19:57):
and India. They could make as any power plants as
they wanted to and continue to make them, put no
cleaning devices on them whatsoever. And this was supposed to
address a global issue, Well, how does that address a
global issue? It's nonsense. But now we've had this kind
of come home in the sense of the AI data centers.

(02:20:18):
They want to put these AI data centers out there,
so they're obviously not interested in any missions anymore. And
this has really made outraged a lot of the environmentalists
that are out there. But it is just another example
of ha real hypocrisy. It's not a real problem. It
certainly is not existential, and it is if it's in

(02:20:38):
their advantage to do it, and it is in their
advantage for the AI. So because that's all about surveillance
and control, that is the killer app And so they're
going to do whatever they.

Speaker 4 (02:20:49):
Have to take.

Speaker 2 (02:20:49):
And they don't care if we own anything. They don't
care if we're able to go anywhere, and they don't
care if we've got any electricity. You know, you and
I have said that for the longest time. You know,
they don't even want us to have a electric vehicles.
They don't want us to have electricity. Nevertheless, you know,
own a car. So that's where this stuff is all going.
But you know, when you talk about the Miata, that
is such a perversion of the whole idea. The whole

(02:21:13):
idea of the Miata was to make it incredibly light
and simple, and so a lot of times, you know,
people talk about modifying the miatas. I mean, there's there's
a company called Flying Miata, and it's kind of interesting
what they do with it.

Speaker 3 (02:21:25):
Since it's such a lightweight car.

Speaker 2 (02:21:28):
They would shove in a V eight engine into the
Miata and I would read with curiosity about it, but
it was something that I never wanted because then you've
got to get this heavy transmission. And it was one
of the nice things about the Miada was how it
shifted and you know, very responsive, and how it could
turn on a dime. And it was all really about

(02:21:50):
being a momentum car rather than a zero to sixty car, right,
And so if these people are going to put in
there the you know, all the added weight and all
the rest of the stuff to make it a hybrid
and to make it complicated, to make it expensive, they
might as well cancel it.

Speaker 12 (02:22:07):
Well, I agree, And it just speaks to the kind
of tone deafness of the people who are running these
car companies. You'll see this happening across the industry. For example,
the Dodge. The people in charge of Dodge who thought
it would be a fine idea to take the Challenger
and the Charger, which were popular costs sold well, and
turned the thing into an Evy, and not only an

(02:22:27):
ev with a base price that was twenty thousand dollars
higher gas engine model, and they thought that that would sell.
They showing what I'm trying to get at is that
they were showing contempt for their own buyer demographic.

Speaker 3 (02:22:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, or Jeep. I'm sure you wear Jeep.
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:22:42):
Jeep is this French company, and they have upscaled the
Jeeps so much that nobody can their market can't afford it.
People wanted something that was rugged and affordable, and that's
the same kind of thing they're doing to the Miata.
They don't want to everybody wants to make exactly the
same car, and they all want to scale everything because
they understand how expensive cars are getting, and they know

(02:23:03):
that only they're really rich can afford this stuff. So
it's going to become a plaything for the rich. It
probably I don't know if it'll be in my lifetime
because I'm getting at the end of it, but probably
in your lifetime you'll probably see the idea that you know,
owning a car is like having a private plane today.

Speaker 12 (02:23:19):
You know, oh sure, it's going to be a reversion
to the early days of the car car industry, of
the car world. If he went back to say about
nineteen oh five or so, the only people who owned
a car were extremely wealthy people. You know, go watch
episodes of Downtown Abbey, the you know the BBC show.

Speaker 4 (02:23:36):
About that era, or Toad of Toad Hall.

Speaker 2 (02:23:40):
Right, yes, if you could aboard a car. And he
didn't really care what the fines were like. He was
very much like Elon Musk who opened up his He
opened up a couple of businesses. They're not too far
from we used to live in Texas. He had boring
and he had I think it was I can't maybe
it was SpaceX or something, but it was not. It's

(02:24:00):
not did anything to do with the launching thing. And
and he was violating all kinds of rules from the
Department of Transportation as well as dumping waste water directly
into the Colorado River.

Speaker 3 (02:24:12):
He didn't care.

Speaker 2 (02:24:13):
They kept finding him and they gave him the maximum
amounts of fines and he didn't care.

Speaker 3 (02:24:16):
So they said, well, we need to raise the fines up.

Speaker 2 (02:24:18):
And it's like, well, you know what they raised the
fines up, it's going to be applied against people who
can't afford it, and you're not going to be able
to raise the fine up high enough to affect elon
Musk under any circumstances. So he was kind of like
Toad of Toad Hall, you know, right.

Speaker 12 (02:24:34):
You know, here's something to kind of explain the point
to people who may not be familiar with the history
of it. Used to be that when you opened the
door of a General Motors vehicle, you would see this
little badge on the sill and it would say body
by Fisher.

Speaker 3 (02:24:44):
Yeah remember that, Oh yeah, And that.

Speaker 12 (02:24:46):
Is something that harkens back to the days of what
were called coach built cars before the Model t This
is around the turn of the last century, in nineteen
hundred or so. If you wanted a car, you went
to a coach builder and you would specify what you
want and it was all custom everything was made to order,
and obviously only very wealthy people could afford a vehicle
like that, so it was a rich man's toy. And

(02:25:08):
you know, Henry Ford came along and had the affront
rate to simplify the thing and to mass produce the
thing that had common parts that were stamped out and
so that anybody who worked at a Ford plant could
afford a car, you know, and for one hundred years afterward,
people like you and I, regular people could afford to
have a car. Well, they're trying to bring us back
to era when when vehicles were luxury items that only

(02:25:30):
the very affluent people in society could afford. It's really
despicable and I wanted to mention something else to get
back to what you were mentioning before about the whole
emissions slash climate control fraud. People don't realize that there
are evs that you can get in Europe. I did
an article the other day about a little car called
the micro Microleina. Did you happen to catch that?

Speaker 4 (02:25:52):
No? Id say?

Speaker 3 (02:25:53):
Microlina cute as a button?

Speaker 2 (02:25:57):
A Gali is so nice that they named it twice, right.

Speaker 12 (02:26:00):
What it basically is is a is a small electric
car that's essentially it looks just like the old BMW Isia.
Do you remember the Isota?

Speaker 2 (02:26:07):
Was that the one that opened in the front, Yes, exactly, see,
I've actually set in one of those up in Chicago. Yeah,
they head it does a display in a garment store.

Speaker 12 (02:26:16):
There so the same concept. It's just a little EV
it's not designed to go ludicrously fast, you know, it's
designed to be an urban, suburban, runabout little car, and
it costs about sixteen thousand dollars. Why can't we have that?
Well I attack electric cars all the time, but fundamentally,
what I'm attacking is the way they're being forced on
people and the way alternatives are being taken away from people,

(02:26:37):
not the EV as such, I really don't have a
problem with you know, why can't people buy a sixteen
thousand dollars basic car if they don't need ludicrous speed,
they don't need to go on the highway for several
hundred miles. And the point is like, if it truly
is the case that we're facing this existential threat the
climate is changing, you know, we're all going to die
unless we don't drive electric cars, Well, why wouldn't they

(02:26:58):
want to encourage these afordable little electric cars that people
could actually buy as opposed to these elitist cars, these
evs that you know, we're allowed to buy fifty thousand,
sixty thousand dollars electric cars, but we can't buy the
little sixteen thousand dollars electric car that you can buy
in Europe. It just speaks to the disingenuousness of the narrative,
the way they're trying to tell you that, you know,

(02:27:20):
you have to make this transition because if you don't,
we're all going to die in the climate catastrophe. Well,
it's nonsense. If that were true, they'd be doing everything
conceivable to encourage these low cost, efficient, simple little cars.

Speaker 3 (02:27:34):
That's right. It's just like the pandemic.

Speaker 2 (02:27:35):
If they really believe everybody's going to die, they'd let
us try some alternatives to their vaccine. But the plan
had been that they were going to lock us down
until they got their vaccine ready and then they were
going to inject everybody and all the companies harmless with
what they did. But you know, that was another smoking
gun about that fraud. But you know, as you're pointing
out these little little things like that, And I remember
there was also the Messerschmidt. Do you remember that that

(02:27:58):
was featured in Brazil. That was the car that the
character drove in that. I've never seen one of those
in person, but I have set in the BMW Isaeta
I've said in that thing. But you know, these things
are basically golf carts.

Speaker 3 (02:28:11):
Just own it, you know, why not?

Speaker 12 (02:28:16):
You know, I mean back when I was in college,
I drove a seventy four Beetle. Loved the car, but
really it wasn't much more than a golf cart.

Speaker 5 (02:28:22):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:28:22):
It had trouble maintaining sixty five miles an hour on anything,
you know, that was at all inclined. That was pretty
much top speed. You know, if you had a downhill
stretch and the wind was at your back, you might
be able to get to get up to about seventy
five miles an hour. And a Beetle it was fine.
It was cheap. It allowed me to get on wheels,
you know, so that I didn't have to walk or

(02:28:42):
take a bus. Yeah, and that's why I'm kind of
so annoyed about the fact that you can't buy new
vehicles like that little inexpensive ev that's available in Europe, because,
after all, if that thing were on the market, is
a used vehicle, it would probably cost only seven or
eight thousand dollars, you know, after a couple of years
of appreciation. And imagine, you know, you're you're an eighteen
year old kid, and you know, you don't have a

(02:29:03):
lot of money, but you'd like to have a car,
So you know, here's a car that you could would
work as your first car. And my point is, you know,
we're being denied all these alternatives. It's it's no longer
the case that the market response to what people want,
that's right, It's it's what the government demands, and it's
one size fits all. And that's why you know, you
hear everybody complaining about they all look the same. Well,

(02:29:25):
there's a reason for that. The reason they all look
the same is because they all have to comply with
the same government demands.

Speaker 2 (02:29:30):
That's right. Yeah, you remember I grew up in Florida,
and so the Volkswagen that I aspired to have was
the dune Buggy.

Speaker 3 (02:29:38):
Well you take care of that was that was practical
or not?

Speaker 2 (02:29:41):
And then really doubled down with a Thomas Crown Affair
that had Steve McQueen driving one of those.

Speaker 4 (02:29:46):
Remember that.

Speaker 2 (02:29:46):
I forget what the company was that those we just
called them, Yeah, that's all right, the Manx and we
just called them dune buggies for that. But Carrie's first
car was a Pento and that was another example. I
remember you talk about how that was your your right
of passage. That was how you knew you were an
adult and how you now had freedom. It was having

(02:30:08):
the wheels right. And so I remember scrutinizing the stuff
and figuring out how much I would have to work
in order to save up and buy a Pento. Before
you know, I was able to drive. Because they were
very cheap. I remember there were like, you know, fourteen
hundred dollars or something new. It was incredible how cheap
they were. Of course the dollar was I had a
lot more purchasing power than that it does now. But

(02:30:31):
you know, Karen got one of those. It had rubber mats,
you know, not carpet, of course, hand cranked windows and
all that kind of stuff. The trunk was so thin
that when you dropped the trunk, it didn't have a
hatchback on hers. But it had a little small trunk
that was maybe about a foot wide ft deep, you know,

(02:30:52):
and when you dropped it, it just shook such a
thin metal. And of course, you know, they were infamous
for explode hit in the back, but they cut every
corner that they could, including the safety equipment, to keep
it from exploding when it was hit in the back.
But it was It was what she needed and she
was able to get one used and fortunately for her,

(02:31:14):
before anything happened if she had an accident, somebody stole
it from her. We were all laughing about It's like,
who would steal this thing? Not only was it that,
but she had a slow leak in her radiator and
I was going to fix it over the weekend. But
it was like Thursday. She goes out to get into
the car and she's got her water jug with her
that she's going to top it up with before she
goes to work, and the car was gone. She called

(02:31:39):
me up and she said, you didn't bring me home
last night? Right, I drove home less night. He's like, yeah,
that's right. She goes, my car has gone. It took
us a while to actually pinch ourselves and wake ourselves
to the fact that somebody had stolen the thing.

Speaker 3 (02:31:52):
He's like, ooh, would steal this?

Speaker 2 (02:31:53):
And everybody joke said you leave it running with the
keys in the car and a bad neighborhood or something
to get this to happen. But it was transportation and
sometimes that's what you need. And they don't want us
to have that anymore.

Speaker 12 (02:32:05):
Yeah, No, everybody needs that you know Leona Coke, who
was at four at the time and who was responsible
for the Pinto to creed that it would be kept
under two thousand dollars brand new, and they managed to
do that. Think about that. Imagine that a brand new
car now, granted inflation and everything, but still two thousand
dollars for a brand new car, meaning that five or
six years down the road, cars like that were abundant,

(02:32:27):
and you know, on the used car market for kids
who didn't have a lot of money. I mean, just
like you, when I was that age, when I was
in high school, I saved the money that I earned
from cutting grass and shoveling snow and all that other
stuff in my McDonald's after school money so I could
buy a car. Yeah, you know, everybody knows that. Today
it's almost impossible for a teenager to work a part
time job or cut grass and be able to afford

(02:32:48):
anything as far as a car goes, because they're so expensive.
And that's really tragic, it's really sad, and it's hurting
not just teenagers who are trying to become adults, but
people on the lower end of the economic spectrum. They're limited,
their options are limited. It's not just about, hey, I
want to go for a joy ride. If you can't
drive to work, your work options are limited.

Speaker 4 (02:33:07):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:33:08):
If you can only go wherever the bus goes, where
the train goes, that means you can only get certain
kinds of jobs, and it probably means you're going to
have to live in an urban area. But guess what,
everything's more expensive in the urban area than it is
farther out. So really it's a kind of an assault
on the You know, it's ironic, isn't it. You know,
we've heard from the Democrats and the left for years
about the plight of the working man and the average guy. Well,

(02:33:29):
the average guy and the workingmen are the ones who
are most being harmed by these things, and now it's
it's leached out farther and it's metastasized, and it's beginning
to make it very difficult for middle class people oh
to have the standard of living that so called working
class people had fifty years ago.

Speaker 2 (02:33:45):
I agree, yeah, And it's like, what are they What
is their end game with all this stuff? Right?

Speaker 3 (02:33:51):
Is it just to kill us all? Or what is it?

Speaker 2 (02:33:53):
Because it doesn't make any sense that they keep taking
everything away from everybody. They want to take away our
jobs and so forth and put us on a universal
basic can come.

Speaker 3 (02:34:02):
You know, what's the endgame with that?

Speaker 2 (02:34:04):
It is so anathetical to what Henry Ford was about,
as they said, you know, we're going to make the
cars cheap enough that the people who work on the
assembly line manufacture them can afford to have one. And
so you know what is the endgame for the people
they really do hate us. It's this concentration. And that
was the other aspect that these people noticed going back
over five thousand years, the frustration and the lack of

(02:34:29):
a sense of control of your own life, no opportunity
and all the rest of this stuff, which is precisely
what the agenda is for the technocracy and the people
who are around Trump that you know, Peter Thiel and
these Curtis Jarvin types. They want a society that's going
to be libertarian for them and authoritarian for us. And

(02:34:51):
that's what they're pushing to. And it's like, how do
you think that that's going to be sustainable? People have
never put up with that in history, So you know,
they may be able to put an in for a
short period of time, but I don't think it was
going to last.

Speaker 4 (02:35:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:35:03):
Psychologically, it's very interesting, and I think part of it
is kind of a pathological thing in that it is
some people, it's not enough to have generational wealth, you know,
to have enough money, not only for themselves to live
without any care whatsoever about financial worries, their kids and
their kids' kids are going to be completely taken care of.
It's never enough. How many billions do you need? Elon

(02:35:25):
Musk's network is what sixty billion or something crazy like that.

Speaker 3 (02:35:30):
That, Yeah, and.

Speaker 12 (02:35:31):
It's still not enough. They need more. You know, it's
not enough to have a yacht. You have to have
two yachts. Then you have to have a private chet,
then you have to have four.

Speaker 2 (02:35:39):
The biggest jot you got to have bigger than the
billionaire next door.

Speaker 12 (02:35:43):
Yeah, and so that it's almost as if there's an
element of sadism in it. It's not that, oh, I've
got something really nice. I've got you know, I've got
a Diamoner mayback. But my neighbor, my god, that guy
has a Chevy suburban. The guy down, you know, the
guy cutomer Grass has a Chevy suburban. I don't want
him to have that yeah's somehow diminishment that you know,
I feel it's only it's only I only feel good

(02:36:04):
if I'm the only one who has something nice. I
think that's part of psychologically what's motivating all of this.

Speaker 1 (02:36:10):
That's right now.

Speaker 2 (02:36:11):
I think you're absolutely right, and that's one of the
reasons why they buy things like a mayback, because I'm
the only one. It's got a mayback, right, are they
they buy a dress or a purse that costs four
thousand dollars or eight thousand dollars or something. You know,
it's that exclusivity, and then there's only so far that
you can go with that exclusivity until it's necessary for
you to exclude stuff from other people. And that's really

(02:36:34):
where this is all headed. I agree, it is really
a kind of a sickness that's there. But we've always
seen that it's an addiction that these people have to money, right,
the love of money. It becomes like a drug to them,
It really does.

Speaker 12 (02:36:47):
I get another interesting aspect of this, if I, if
I might elaborate just to touch because it's almost a
cartoon indictment of capitalism, but it's not capitalism because almost
all of these people and in almost every case, they
are acquiring their role through governments.

Speaker 3 (02:37:01):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (02:37:02):
First thing we talked about when I had you on
was your article about Elon Musk being the king of
crony capitalism, and that was more than a decade ago
when we first talked about that, and that, as you
point out, was how he got his wealth.

Speaker 3 (02:37:14):
I said that earlier in the program.

Speaker 2 (02:37:16):
I said, you know, you look at this and so
many times you see people who are libertarian or conservative
and they want to champion businesses and say business can
do nothing wrong and government can do nothing right. And
then the Democrats are the other way, right, government can
do nothing wrong, businesses and private companies can do nothing right.

(02:37:36):
The reality is is that they've merged and that's what
makes it all so evil. And they don't see that,
you know, they imagine that we've got a free market
or that we have capitalism, but it's not that at all.
It's this kind of mixture that we see in China,
and we recognize it in China. How they come in
and say, well, you're going to have to give us
a piece of that. But we're seeing that in spades

(02:37:58):
now with Trump. You know, he's using taking over buying
a share of intel and using government money to start,
you know, acquiring assets to own it. I mean that
is socialism, Marxism, central planning. All the things that Republicans
used to oppose, they now applaud because Trump is doing it.

Speaker 12 (02:38:20):
Yep, they've so poisoned the well. And in addition to that,
younger Americans in particular don't know their own history. That's
right now, Henry Ford can be considered a capitalist. Henry
Ford figured out a way to make a better mouse trap,
and he didn't use the government at all to subsidize
his business. What he did was to make a product
that people could afford. And a very interesting thing about

(02:38:42):
Ford was that the Model T got progressively less expensive
with each model year because he would fine tune it,
figure out ways to make it cost less, and he
was able to scale things up and he sold more
of them, so he could make more on volume than
on individual unit sales. Yeah, you know, it was such
a boom for average people because it liberated them from
the yolk of having to be tied to an urban area,

(02:39:03):
to a city. A farmer could buy a Ford Model
T and he could use it as a tractor. You know,
they made it to be modular, so you know, you
could you could have it out on the farm. And gasoline,
of course, was portable, so even in the time before
there were gas stations, you could bring gas to where
there wasn't any gas. And you know, we've taken this
for granted as a civilization, this idea that we can
just go where we want to go. That was not

(02:39:25):
the case once. You know, it was almost kind of
a feudal order where you were stuck where you were
by circumstances. And you know, the dawn of that age
changed that, and now we're reverting back to that age
and we're being dragged back into it because most people
just don't appreciate just how good we had it, and
they might once it's all gone.

Speaker 3 (02:39:45):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (02:39:46):
Well, you know, a lot of this comes and I've
mentioned many times there was an obed pace that really
dropped my jaw when I saw it by the CEO
of LYFT. I can't remember his name. I don't know
if he's still the CEO. But the guy had been
anurban planner by education, and so he loved cities and
he said, cities are the best invention of mankind. And

(02:40:07):
cars are the worst invention, and I thought, this is
just so upside down and backwards. Nobody agrees with that
in reality, because the reason that we have suburbs, and
the reason that we have what these urban planners derisively
call urban sprawl is because people don't like living all
pressed up against each other, and they're willing to spend

(02:40:30):
time and money so they can get more space around them.
But they hate that because these urban planners are all
about control. And when we look at the when you
look at Lyfty, you look at Uber, you know they
were all about owning all of the transportation privately, right
and making it kind of a fascist run system, not

(02:40:50):
directly owned by the government, as if they would own
all the buses and the rails and subways like that,
but the fact that they would partner with God to
make sure, you know, they do whatever government wants them
to do. If they government tells them that David Knight
can't ride anywhere, they would enforce that for them. And
so they're all about that, that kind of a partnership

(02:41:11):
that we see there, and they're all about getting rid
of As Travis Kalalnik of Uber used to say, the
reason our rides are expensive. Is because that other dude
in the car. We're going to get rid of that
other dude in the car. We're going to have self
driving cars. That's where we want to go. So who's
going to be able to afford to driving these things?

Speaker 4 (02:41:30):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:41:30):
Because it's not just one sector with artificial intelligence or
bodies and everything. They're going for every sector all at once.
They're trying to reduce this is. There's an MIT report
saying that they could get rid of it. I forget
how many tens of millions of jobs, but it was massive.
It was like maybe twenty million jobs or something. We
think we can replace twenty million jobs right now with AI.

(02:41:51):
If we get really serious about this, we build the
data centers.

Speaker 3 (02:41:55):
And well, they don't do.

Speaker 12 (02:41:56):
That because it will increase their profit margin, will reduce
their health care costs. Also, you know you mentioned how
this guy, the lift guy, says that cities are bad
and are good, but cities are good. It's an unconscious
confession his subjective value. He personally thinks that cities are great,

(02:42:16):
and he personally thinks that it's bad to not live,
you know, in them, and doesn't even appreciate that other
people might have a different point of view, and if
they have a different point of view, you know, theirs
should be stomped. You know, they shouldn't be allowed to
have their different point of view. That's the that's the
mentality of the people that we're dealing with. They can't
live and let live. They can't say, Okay, I've got

(02:42:37):
a point of view. I like living in an urban hive,
I like living in an apartment. You go ahead and
live in the country the ability you want to. They
can't do that. That whole, that whole American idea that
we used to have of live and let live, different
strokes for different folks. It's just being exterminated by this,
this this arrogant one size fits all. Everybody's going to

(02:42:57):
do the same thing mentality.

Speaker 2 (02:43:00):
Yeah, I like evs, so you're going to use an
EV right, I'm going to demand that you use it.
There's not going to be any other exception.

Speaker 4 (02:43:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:43:07):
I've got a couple of comments here. Birdhouse Bloe says,
I don't even recognize as the cars today. They all
look the same. That's absolutely right, and it's not by accident.

Speaker 12 (02:43:17):
The reason they all look the same is because they
all have to comply with the same federal regulations, and
that greatly limits the ability of designers to come up
with anything different. Yes, it's kind of like the best
way to understand it if you follow cob racing. They
literally have this template. It's this thing that they put
over the body of the car. The car has to

(02:43:40):
be within those parameters in order to be legal to use.

Speaker 3 (02:43:42):
On the track.

Speaker 12 (02:43:43):
So that's why the NASCAR cars all look the same.
No matter whether it says Ford or whatever, they all
look the same. And that's the reason why when you
go to a car showroom, pretty much all the cars
look like they got stamped out of the same factory
and a different badge got put on the fender.

Speaker 3 (02:43:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:43:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:43:58):
He also has a command. He says cars used to
have character. You know you're talking about that. That reminds
me of the Superbird, And I think it was Richard
Petty they did that, remember that it had and they
actually sold off for consumers. I had a friend of
mine in high school. His dad bought him a road
Runner Superbird and had that long extension on the front,
and it had like the spoiler on the back that

(02:44:20):
was like five feet above the trunk and everything it
was crazy that he was driving this around on the road,
but he could do it, you know, and.

Speaker 12 (02:44:27):
It was a two hundred mile an hour car mentality, Yeah,
and a really cool thing about stock car racing. And
so they literally were stock cars in the sense that
they took a production car, you know, and they turned
it into a race car. Now, the cars that you
see on a NASCAR circuit, they're all the same tube
frame chassis underneath us with this skin on the top

(02:44:47):
that's supposed to vaguely kind of remind you of a
Ford or it's not anything at all remotely like a
car that you can buy at the dealership, whereas back
in the day, like your friend did, you could buy
basically Richard Eddy's car.

Speaker 3 (02:45:00):
Yeah, he took version of Eddy's car. And that's what crazy.

Speaker 4 (02:45:03):
It was funny, you know.

Speaker 12 (02:45:04):
And they used to say, you know, went on Sunday,
sell on Monday, and it was true because you know,
you went to the race, and if you were a
Chevy guy and you watched the Chevvy win the race,
or a Dodge guy whatever, you were happy about that
and you wanted to be associated with that. So you
went and bought that car because you thought it was
a winner because it won the race, and there was
truth in that.

Speaker 4 (02:45:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:45:21):
Now, you know, motorsports, at least as far as NASCAR goes.
I know I'm going to get some hate for this,
but I consider it to be the World Wrestling Federation
of Motorsports.

Speaker 2 (02:45:29):
That's good, that's funny. But every time I say John
in his car, you know, it was really nice guy.
And the funny thing about it, he was not the
kind of guy that would show off, and he didn't
do that with anything else, and he was actually I
always felt that he was embarrassed when people noticed his car.

Speaker 3 (02:45:47):
Yeah, my dad, those out a character.

Speaker 2 (02:45:50):
It was amazing.

Speaker 12 (02:45:51):
Those cars, those those those Daytona Superbirds. Those cars now
are hundreds of thousands of dollars if you want to
buy one. Now that the day when they were available
to the dealers, they couldn't sell them. A lot of
times they would sit on the lot and you know
they would eventually get fire sold to somebody for a
budget price because, like your friend, people felt a little
awkward driving around in this thing with this huge wing

(02:46:11):
on the back, you know, and that bullet nose that
it had on the front.

Speaker 2 (02:46:14):
Yeah, yeah, extended it. It's like, yeah, how you going
to park that anyway? I assuming that you didn't use
that for your parallel parking driving test. It never fit
in the parking space. It was it was crazy, and
it was always a lot of fun to see him.
And I hope he didn't wreck it. Maybe if he
if he kept it, he's got a lot of money
now he could get for that. But yeah, Burnhouse Blue

(02:46:37):
also says I used to buy many used cars for
five hundred or less back in the eighties. Even that's true.
You know, let's talk a little bit about you got
an article just came out this week, a solution for
a created problem.

Speaker 3 (02:46:49):
Tell us about that.

Speaker 12 (02:46:50):
Oh yeah, Well, we all have experienced the frustration sitting
at a traffic light and the light in front of
us goes green and as soon as you cross the
intersection up ahead, there's another and it just went red.
Oh yeah, and so you know, signal timing. It's a problem,
but it's a problem is easily remedied by timing the
signals so that generally speaking, on a given stretch of road,

(02:47:10):
most of the lights will go green sequentially in order
so that the traffic can flow well. Instead of just
doing it the simple way. Now, one of these tech
bro companies, associated with the University of Michigan, has proposed
the fine idea of collating and collecting data being transmitted
from your car, your GPS data and other data, so
that the system recognizes how many cars are on a

(02:47:32):
given stretch of road or to given time, how fast
they're moving, and they can use AI to coordinate the lights.
Of course, really what this is about again is monitoring you,
collecting data about you. They swear up and down on
a stack of Brave New Worlds that it's anonymized data,
but of course it's not. It's only anonymized because they
choose it to be anonymized. All of this is tied,

(02:47:54):
particularly to your car. People don't realize. Most people don't
know that pretty much all cars down with It, made
with in the last ten or fifteen years, have what
they call telematics, which means that they are constantly in
communication with the Hive, I call it the Hive. They're
receiving updates, they're transmitting this, and you have no consent
and no ability to thwart that. And it's quite remarkable

(02:48:16):
that there hasn't been more outrage as far, at least
as far as I'm concerned, I don't like the idea
of my car being like my cell phone in that
it is controlled by some corporate entity somewhere that can
decide that it wants to update it, ie change it,
or that it can use this device to track my movements.
Not because I'm a criminal, but because I have I
don't want people knowing where I'm going, That's reasonable. I

(02:48:39):
don't feel like I ought to have an ankle bracelet
on unless I've actually been convicted of a crime, that's right.

Speaker 4 (02:48:44):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:48:45):
There was an interesting thing reported on the last couple
of weeks, and there was a guy who was pushing
back against a bunch of statists who were pushing for
some new safety devices or something to be made mandatory
on cars. This is a guy who before he became
a politician, he used to sell cars, and so he

(02:49:07):
decided he would go around and see if these people
actually had bought these safety devices that were optional on
their car. So he went around and got their ven
numbers for their cars, looked it up and found out
that these people who were saying, you absolutely have to
have this stuff had declined paying for it when they
had the option to, and we're going to use their money.
So he said, so now you're going to force everybody

(02:49:29):
to buy what you chose not to buy when you
had the opportunity to do it. And their reaction to
it was like, how dare you get my ven number
and look this stuff up? You violated my privacy And
this is the most hypocritical thing you can imagine. These
are the people who are spying on us with everything,
as you point out, in our car and all the
rest of it. But of course there's also the massive

(02:49:51):
flock network of cameras that are out there doing automated
license plate readings, and not just the license plate, but
they are creating an id profile of your car, looking
at the idiosyncrasies of it, does it have a dent
on the side, or a scratch or this or that,
and tracking that literally tracking it for law enforcement all

(02:50:12):
the time, and doing that as a contract, and that
is exploding. That's the kind of you know, public private
tyranny that we see over and over again. And I
thought it was just the most amazing. I played that
clip a couple of weeks and within the last couple
of weeks, and the attitude of these people, how dare

(02:50:33):
you do this when they are mandating stuff for people
and they are spying on people all the time.

Speaker 12 (02:50:39):
It's really interesting to me that, you know, this gets
us into the subject of the driver assistance technology, which
is related to it. Why is it that it is
made standard equipment now in every vehicle even though the
overwhelming majority of people do not want this. I can't
tell you how many times I get emails and comments
whenever I do show like yours, people say, you know,

(02:51:01):
I despise being parented by my car. I don't like
lane keep assistance, I don't like any of that. I
want to turn it off. You can't turn it off anymore.
All you can do is turn it down. And it's
interesting that these manufacturers, who you'd think would not want
to alienate their customers. Why would you put something in
a vehicle that most people don't want. Yeah, well, it's
because they want it. And then the question is veg

(02:51:23):
well why do they want it? And I think the
reason is because there's just gradually, piece by piece putting
together the system in which you will have no control
over your car beyond which beyond what they want you
to have. So the minute that you go outside the
parameters of that, you know, the car will correct you,
and it may get to the point where it just
shuts off or it doesn't operate at all if you

(02:51:45):
don't operate it within the allowable parameters. And at that
point we might as well just all sign up for
a Johnny cab. And which is ultimately, I think what
they really do want.

Speaker 2 (02:51:54):
It is it is and that's why these car companies
have been partnerships, in a partnership with government to add
all these expensive add ons and all these things that
people don't want, because it drives the price of the
car up and they can charge people for that. But
the problem is is that they've kind of you know,
one thing that Vladimir Lenin got right, as he said,

(02:52:15):
the capitalists will solved a rope that she used to
hang them, and they used to hang these guys.

Speaker 4 (02:52:21):
Now is you know, they.

Speaker 2 (02:52:23):
Sold all these safety device ropes to rope you in
and now their cars are so expensive people can't afford it.
But then, of course the solution to that is to
get even more into a relationship and a partnership with
the government so that they are the providers with this
mobility stuff that's going to be privately owned, but will

(02:52:44):
be heavily controlled, and there'll be a you know, the
government will tell them what to do, and of course
you'll have the politicians who will get to wet their
beak as the mafia people say that it's basically this
is going to operate. It's going to be a Chinese model.
That's why the open China for this time inevitably too.

Speaker 12 (02:53:02):
To speak to your point about not seeing their own
self interest, there will have to be a winnowing of
the number of manufacturers because it just doesn't make sense
to have as many manufacturers as there still are producing
essentially the same thing. Why not consolidate everything kind of
like they did in the Soviet Union, where you could
get a lot of maybe after fifteen or twenty years
on a waiting list. It's going to be trembant.

Speaker 4 (02:53:25):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:53:26):
Those are your choices back in the old Soviet days.
And ultimately I see something like that happening.

Speaker 4 (02:53:30):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:53:31):
Philip Dick, the great sci fi writer, foresaw this. If
you read his novel Blade Runner, they don't get into it,
or the novel is do Androids stream of Electric Sheep.
The movie Blade Runner is the one that people are
more familiar with. But in the novel, everything is controlled
by what's called the Turtal Corporation.

Speaker 1 (02:53:47):
Everything.

Speaker 12 (02:53:47):
It's sort of like, you know, the Amazon of our time.
It's just this, every single consumer good is made and
manufactured by this one pyramidal, structured, massive corporation that controls everything.
Book decades and decades and decades ago, and here we are,
you know, very prescient and the way it foresaw, you know,
what corporalism would turn capitalism into.

Speaker 2 (02:54:11):
All these dystopian novels have become a manual for these people.
I think, yeah, you talk about you'd wait for decades
for that. That was one of the best Ronald Reagan jokes.
Basically in Russia, right, the guy orders on enough as
a cary, let's just say, as a washing machine, and
he goes, I will have that for you in ten years.

Speaker 3 (02:54:29):
And the guy says.

Speaker 2 (02:54:31):
Afternoon or morning, And he says, why do you ask
is ten years from that? He goes, well, because I've
got the dishwasher coming in the morning ten years from now.

Speaker 12 (02:54:43):
Sad. Yeah, because for those of us who can remember
the way America used to be, you know, never thought
America would become like the Soviet Union, that's right, and
rapidly on our way to becoming exactly that.

Speaker 2 (02:54:55):
Well, you know, it's even to the extent that you've
got a lot of these concerns vative influencers. And again,
these are not people who are researchers and not reporters,
they're not journalists. They are influencers that ought to tell
you something. But they're out there trying to rehabilitate Richard Nixon,
of all people, our fifty five mile an hour guy

(02:55:16):
who created the EPA and so many other issues out there,
and he opened us up to China and he set
us down on this path. And I said, you know,
think about it, Conservatives. If you like Richard Nixon, you
got to like Henry Kissinger, mister globalism himself.

Speaker 4 (02:55:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:55:31):
But it's amazing how this has all. You know, it's
a long term plan that they've been operating on.

Speaker 12 (02:55:38):
You know, with regard to what we talked about at
the beginning of the interview, the federal fuel economy standards,
you know, I think it's the best way to challenge
that is to say, why is the government involved in
that at all?

Speaker 2 (02:55:48):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 12 (02:55:49):
I mean, what business is it of the government to
decree you or I how many miles for gallon a
vehicle that we choose to buy with our own money. Yeah,
must get.

Speaker 2 (02:55:58):
Where's that in the constant and where is the authority
for the EPA and the constitution?

Speaker 3 (02:56:03):
Right?

Speaker 12 (02:56:03):
And it's based on a fatuity.

Speaker 5 (02:56:05):
You know.

Speaker 12 (02:56:05):
The argument is that if the government weren't weren't doing this,
then the mean old automakers would make nothing but gas
guzzling cars and we'd all be at the mercy of
Big Well, it's nonsense. Before Cafe came along in the
early seventies, there were plenty of fuel efficient cars available. Yeah,
so it's a lie. And you know, these these mandates
that are coming out. The cafe thing costs you money. Yeah,

(02:56:26):
your car gets thirty five miles for gallon, but it
also costs forty thousand dollars now, so you're really not
saving any money because you've got this micro engine, turbocharged
hybrid augmented thing with a CBT transmission and yay, I'm
getting you know, five miles more per gallon. Then I
you know, I'm then the vehicle that costs thousands and
thousands of dollars left less. But you know, because people

(02:56:48):
just can't do basic math anymore, so they buy into
this nonsense.

Speaker 3 (02:56:52):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (02:56:52):
Yeah, I like this sapped piece that you put out
the last generation, but it's out yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:56:59):
You started by saying, before.

Speaker 2 (02:57:00):
The nineties, men drove cars and kids rode bicycles without helmets.
Now men well wear helmets to ride a bicycle, and
kids aren't allowed to ride in a car unless they're
strapped in a safety seat. You know that that is
the amazing thing. You know, Travis just had to get
a car seat for their son, and of course you
know they're talking about, well, this is going to last

(02:57:20):
up until, you know, whatever the age is, and and
you know, they make the cars so that they have
different inserts that you can put in when they're small,
and they can keep staying in that car seat forever,
you know, as they get older and older. It's amazing.

Speaker 12 (02:57:38):
And you know, one of the hidden costs of that,
by the way, with regard to the safety seat mandate,
it effectively pushes people to buy a three row suv
at some point or across because if you've got more
than two kids, you know, it becomes just too difficult
to fit the seats in the back of the thing,
so you need to so then you have to move
up and buy this much more expensive vehicle, you know,

(02:57:58):
I you know, I just I missed the days. You know,
when we were kids. You went for a drive, Mom
and dad, are you opened the door? Just jump in
the car and go.

Speaker 2 (02:58:06):
Yeah, now you got to go. You got to be
able to get in the car and get them into
the car seat and all the rest of this stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:58:11):
I mean, we just used.

Speaker 2 (02:58:12):
To the climb in these cars. They didn't have seat belts,
they didn't have padded dashboards or anything. We used to
joke about it. Even when in high school, you know,
they started putting in the seat belts. They weren't mandatory yet,
and we used to laugh about it. And so yeah,
we used to just somebody have an accent. We just
hose the blood off the dashboard and saw the car gain.

Speaker 12 (02:58:31):
Sure, you know, I understand that there is an increased risk.
I know some people listening to us might be appalled
at what I'm suggesting here, but I think it's gotten
to be almost neurotic. No, I think it is about
fear that pervades our society about what might happen, you know,
Heaven for Fenn you know, you get in a car
and drive down to the mailbox without your seat belt on,
you know, you might die. This is the attitude that

(02:58:51):
people have now, and it's just it's over the top
and it's silly. Yeah, and just on a moral level,
if you're an adult, you don't need to be parented.
Presumably you're grown up, so ease off, leave me alone.
I'll make decisions all the way, costs, benefits, risks and
reward for myself. You have no right to parent another adult,
that's right.

Speaker 2 (02:59:12):
Yeah, they would be absolutely appalled to see what happens
in China when we were there like twenty years ago.
You know, you got somebody's the family. They don't have
an issue v they don't have a car, they got
a motorcycle, and they just tell the little kids that
are maybe you know, four years old, just hang on,
you know, there's no seat belt. There's nothing there. Somehow

(02:59:32):
they managed to survive. I used to always laugh about
the magic school bus. So when the thing would come
on and they would start by saying seat belts, everybody said,
there's no seat belts on a school bus. They cover
them with laws and yellow paint to make sure that
nobody gets hurt. You know, it's always great talking to you.

Speaker 12 (02:59:49):
Eric.

Speaker 2 (02:59:50):
We're out of time. That went by really, really fast,
as it always does. Thank you so much, Eric Peters
dot com. Check it out, folks, great sight for news.

Speaker 12 (03:00:00):
Thank you, David, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (03:00:01):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (03:00:06):
The common man. They created common Core, dumbed down our children.
They created common Past to track and control us, their
Commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing and

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the communist future. They see the common man as simple,
unsophisticated ordinary. But each of us has worth and dignity
created in the image of God. That is what we
have in common. That is what they want to take away.
The most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire

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