January 21, 2025 • 42 mins
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In this candid episode, Kate Anderson, mom of three and owner of Kate Anderson Fitness, joins Reesa Morala, LMFT, to explore the challenges of raising children with vastly different personalities. Kate opens up about the struggle of recognizing how her own negative self-talk influenced her children’s inner narratives and the steps she’s taking to break the cycle of self-criticism.
As they discuss parenting strategies, self-awareness, and personal growth, Kate also shares her recipe for a Big Mac Casserole—a creative, family-friendly twist on a fast-food classic that’s sure to be a hit at the dinner table.
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Big Mac Casserole
INGREDIENTS:
2 lbs of lean ground meat
1 c Thousand Island dressing
1/4 c mayonnaise
1 c diced yellow onion
1 c diced dill pickle
1 tbsp onion powder
1 tbsp garlic powder
1 tsp salt
1 tsp pepper
1 cup shredded triple cheddar cheese blend
24 oz frozen tater tots
INSTRUCTIONS:
1. Pre-heat oven to 375.
2. In a large skillet with cooking spray, sauté onions until lightly translucent and add ground meat and brown.
3. Once cooked through, remove and place in an oven safe casserole dish and set aside.
4. In a separate bowl, mix dressing, mayonnaise, dill pickles, onion powder, garlic powder, salt, and pepper.
5. Take 3/4 of mixture and combine with the ground meat and half of the cheese.
6. Top with the remainder of the cheese and cover the whole casserole with tater tots.
7. Cook in the oven until tater tots are golden brown and mixture is bubbling.
8. Remove from the oven and drizzle the remainder of sauce mixture on top.
9. Serve on its own or on bed of greens.
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And I'm sure some of thenegativity and the frustration
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he could feel and he he couldbecome frustrated.
Then it starts to becomeself-talk.
Hey everyone, thanks forjoining me.
My name is Reesa and I'myour host.
We are talking to real familiesabout real stories here on the
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Real Family Eats, where we'vegot food for thought
and thoughtful food.
So let's eat! Hey everyone,my guest today is the
lovely KateThanks for joining us today.
(00:49):
You're welcome.
All right, so for everyonewho doesn't know you out there,
can you introduce yourselfand tell us a little bit
about your parenting lifeand what you do?
Sure.
I’m Kate Anderson And I'ma mom of three kids
and my kids are all older.
22, just graduated college, 18.
Just graduated high school.
And then the little guy is nineand he's just living
(01:12):
his best life.
That’s where we’re at with that.
And then I also own a business.
I own Kate Anderson fitnessand just trying to juggle
parenting and kidsand everything and just trying
to raise, like, happy, healthygood for society kids.
(01:32):
Yeah, that's the goal.
Well, we're doing it.
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I know you mentionedKate Anderson fitness.
Can you tell us kind ofhow we can find you?
What are some of the programsthat you offer?
Thank you.
So, Anderson Fitness,you can find it on Facebook
and on Instagram.
(01:53):
Facebook.
More reliablesource, I’m on there more often
And let's be honestwith regard to what we offer
we really catered towards momsand families.
When I first started11 years ago, I had two goals
in mind one, get moms togetherfor the social dynamic.
Right?
Because we all need to suffertogether, nobody wants to suffer
(02:16):
alone. Absolutely.
What can I do to makefitness and nutrition easy
for moms or families in general?
Because you alwayshave something.
Yeah, we like moms.
We always put ourselveson the back burner.
And really, we need to bethe oxygen mask.
And we need to care of ourselvesto help others.
Yeah. We always Forget thatpart.
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Absolutely.
Everything we do iskid friendly.
And there's been days.
And this is why I love it.
Is the days where people walk inwith puke all over
their clothes.
And like I am here or.
I made it.
You're my person.
Glad you're here. Yeah.
And then throw the kidat somebody.
You know.
Absolutely. Very cool.
(02:59):
And so that's definitelya place to check out more local.
Do you do it just herein Temecula.
It’s Temecula, Menifeeand, Murrieta those 3 locations,
Kind of the tri-citiesYeah. Perfect.
All right, so make sure tocheck it out.
All right.
So what recipe are you goingto share with us today?
Okay.
First my disclaimerthis is not healthy, but
(03:19):
it came from one of ourdear friends as a quick,
easy meal.
Healthy.
You're healthier.
I've made it healthier, guys.
It's healthier.
But the thing is, the kidslove it.
And when you have thisa few minutes to just throw
something together, this is justa great one to do.
So these are going toprotein in it right?
Absolutely.
So let me you maybe we'll figurethis out.
(03:42):
But one of the things I wantedto mention make it healthier
that we're talking about it.
Okay, so, friend,can I eat this?
We actually got a giant fatof lettuce.
Yeah, and, like, make a saladand throw this on top of it.
Okay, so that way we're gettingmore vegetables that we
are actually the fun stuffof it.
Yeah, right.
These things together.
Just like a salad bowl.
Okay. Yeah.
(04:02):
And so this is calledand you call it like the Big Mac
is something that casserole.
Yes. Okay.
So we made it healthy.
And I think the fact thatlike you said, you can
then serve it on top ofwhat else?
I mean, that would still alignwith kind of the Big Mac, right?
You normally.
Yeah.
What greenery on thereeven though it's not
maybe as much as like soupy.
(04:23):
So we can add that.
So I love that okay.
So what do I get started with.
And I'll I'll start cookingwhile we chit chat. Perfect.
You're gonna startwith the ground turkey for
then let's go back.
Let's start with the onions.
First we're going to take themand turn them brown.
Okay, I can do that.
And then I'll just like spraythe pan or whatever.
You are there I can do that.
So I do want to hear more.
(04:44):
I know we're chattinga little bit, and I'd love
for you to kind of share some ofreal life parenting struggles,
because after all, that's whatwe're here to chatting about.
And, hey, talk tome a little bit about some of
your experience, why we'rekind of the different dynamics,
your older kiddos, and thenadding, you're you're the
third, right.
(05:05):
And some of the, the strugglesthat kind of happened there.
And I know your familyis a little bit different
because you're not alwaysparenting with a partner,
correct?
Yeah. So, actually both timelike I share with you, as this
military is now pilot too, sohe has always been gone.
(05:26):
So when I raised both girls,he was just not around.
He's missed, I think, with theexception, maybe two
birthdays, all Kerry'sbirthdays.
Oh, really?
And so, you know.
And she's now 18.
She's not 18.
Exactly.
Just to give you guys whatI think she I think he's missed
maybe 15 or 16 ever 18birthdays. Wow.
(05:47):
And there's years whereI was just sad because
he'd come home the day after herbirthday or close.
You know, we just kind of.
It just kind of happened.
Yeah.
And, you know, you deal withthat heartbreak.
And within.
And then.
Yes.
And then the little guy.
So now he's my husband's homesomewhere, right?
And then we got this little guy,and there's an age gap
(06:09):
between the two older ones.
Yeah.
And then this little guy who isvery different, you know,
my first one was seveninches for the second one
is easy to like.
Happy go lucky to pleaseeverybody.
And super easy.
Always willing to helpwith anything or everyone.
And then you got this little guywho's just neither of
those things.
(06:29):
Well, he's both of those things.
Really.
Okay, so I think it was his ownlittle creature. Yeah.
So it's very different.
And they say this and it'sso true to having the two girls
and then having a boy.
His boys are just different.
Like, your boys arereally great.
Like they really are great.
My son literally wakes up.
And for the time he was born,I swore he'd wake up.
(06:50):
I want to just destroy stuff.
Yeah.
Lots of energy.
Yeah.
You know, like, let's take thisapart. Let's.
And I'm like, what is happening?
Yeah.
Especially when you raisetwo girls who are just very,
like, energy, but it'sa different type of energy.
Okay?
And somebody told me once and I,I held on to it and boy
it's not other you know worse.
(07:12):
And the girls are justwith energy.
And it's just a differentenergy okay.
And I'm so grateful to have thembecause how boring with my life.
The other boys.
But yeah.
So like there's challengeswith him and he is pretty much
being raised by not just me.
But then he's got thesetwo older sisters who are very
(07:34):
much like this weirddynamic of big sister role
as well as a parent role.
How does that play out?
Like how do you thinkthat kind of changes things?
So like they're on himlike way harder and I don't know
what happens, but like, as youhave kids, you sure caring less
about their structure and youjust think, yeah, they turned
(07:57):
out okay.
Oh my goodness.
I can totally relate.
I remember, you know, with myfirst one Malachi, it was
very much like sanitizeeverything and like,
oh my goodness, you did thislike sound the alarm, you know,
versus like, but at the endof the day, like you would
sanitize everything and youso watching the bottom
of a sheet.
So then by the secondwhen you're like, oh,
(08:18):
you're gonna lick your shoeanyway.
So you just, you just and Ithink you just become more
relaxed with it and you justmaybe become okay, like,
you know what?
They're going to be okay.
And I think it's my favoritething to share to people
is whenever they'reworried, like, yeah, your kid's
going to be fine, right?
Like and also, you know, atleast there's some talk about
therapy later on, right?
(08:39):
Like, I know I'm giving somebodya job, a future job.
I know there's no matter howgreat of a parent we think
we are not.
Yeah.
Our kids, we grew upwith a whole different
perspective over somethinglike what happened to
what really happened.
And even my girls now haveconversations and I'm like,
that's not what happened.
But in their head, yes, that'show their life look, right?
(09:00):
Absolutely.
Can't judge on theirperspective.
So I think just giving yourselfthe freedom to just be like,
yeah, like, are you doingthe best you can for what?
You're good.
Sure.
And then each kid hasa different personality
too. Yeah.
And, JJ is definitely overlyconfident, which has its
(09:21):
own challenges.
We think honesty. Right.
We're absolutely.
And I imagine again,like we look at these qualities
and sometimes right, it can makeit really difficult
on the parents jobbecause you're you're trying
to navigate this at thesame time knowing like
the confidence, like you said,can be a huge asset
as he grows up.
And so how do you navigate likeI want you to feel confident
(09:42):
at the same time like do there'slimits. Yeah.
I mean I've learned to like mynew phrase that I've been
using lately is stuffwe can talk.
I mean, I talk.
Yeah, and his sisters talk.
He talks to me more thanthe rest of us.
And I just learned to say,you are going to be such
a successful sales personor business person later on.
(10:02):
Yeah, because that is a greatcharacteristic that you're
looking for in a futureemployee.
Right now the endlessramble you're.
Yeah.
Two seconds.
You I think you're absolutelyright.
It's a balance of likeyes we want to we want to
do this.
At the same time if you arean environment where you
(10:23):
can't be the only one likemonopolizing the conversation,
but there's also some degree oflike sharing.
We're working on this.
Hey, we're all a workin progress.
That's that's the real truth.
Yeah.
And yeah, I know with JJ, he's.
My girls are so academic.
Okay.
Like, I, I couldn'teven tell you how to log
(10:45):
into their grades at all,because if they got a
minus that or freaking out,I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean, so, you know, I, I yeah,I never check their grades.
I never ever, ever, ever.
And they're always studying.
They're always doing homework.
They're always reading booksand they're just so
academic. Yeah.
And then you got JJ who,he's smart and I believe is just
(11:10):
as smart as the sisters,but he doesn't want to apply it
in the same way that theywanted to apply it.
So with my oldest, she was smartand wanted everyone to know
how smart she was. Okay.
And then with the middle,we always joke that she's the
secret smarty and likeshe's smart, so she has
to work so hard and studyso hard to get where she was.
(11:33):
Right.
It didn't come natural to her.
Yeah, but she's willing to putin the work because that's
what she wanted.
And then JJ he's like ohit is what it is.
Yeah I looked through his reportcard.
Yeah 80% in his writing.
And like two my girlsnever going to be ever okay.
And I'm like dude this is likealmost a C.
(11:55):
And he's like well it's 80%.
It's still a B.
And even C's are fine.
So you get degrees are like,let me kid you and you
get the degree.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, and that's the thing,right?
I'm sure that he mightlook at it and go, do I want to
go?
And that's what I'mworried about.
And then like, you know,and it's such a weird switch
(12:17):
to have two very academic kidsand then have the one where
you're just fighting for it.
And I'm trying to change mymindset, too, because I was
so frustrated last year withhis spelling.
Okay, 20 words, two weeks.
Learn them.
I don't understand why you can'tlearn them.
And so then I startedrealizing that for me,
(12:38):
when I learn things,I got to move around.
I got to travel and whatever,I don't I can't just study
something.
Yeah.
So then I just start tyingthat in with baseball.
So we play around the worldwith his spelling words.
Okay.
Which helped, but stillthere were some weeks
where he just wasn't doing greatwith the styles. Right.
And the frustration.
And you, you just want to saylike, dude, like I don't
(13:01):
understand why you're suchan idiot about that
in your brain.
Yeah, right.
And then I'm like, I'm suresome of the negativity and the
my frustration he could feeland he, he could be from
frustrated.
Then that starts to becomea self-talk.
Him right for him for him.
Yeah.
Like oh I can't do it.
Like I can't do it,I can't do it.
Yeah.
(13:21):
So I switched around this yearand the new thing I'm
telling him, and they getthis thing lined up that I can
switch it this year.
So he, got tested in his wholeoffensive game, which is a story
in itself.
I when he became he's goinginto a fourth or fifth class.
Okay.
So what I've done now, somethinghe only on paper are you for
(13:44):
like they tested youand they said, you're so smart
now they know you're so smart.
They're putting you in a fourth,fifth class and fourth grade.
So they think you're so smartthat you're capable of
doing this.
Yeah.
That means you're one ofthe smartest kids in school.
So you have to work sohard this year to prove to them
how smart you are.
And I'm hoping that maybelike that switch dynamic
(14:05):
of telling him everyone believeshow smart you are.
Build him up and put in the workthen. Yeah.
Do you think that for him?
You know, because I hear yousaying that, like you said
on paper.
So for the game is our versionof the gifted and talented,
you know, program that,you know, he's got the skills.
(14:27):
He's got the capabilities.
Do you think for himthere's just a lack
of motivation or lack of,like buying?
I think he's a third kid.
You know, birth is a real.
But I think it's yeahI think it's, combination one
the lack of motivation andself-discipline to do it.
(14:49):
And you just see every kid'sdifferent then we just have to
be on him more.
Right.
And actually when theyappreciate it I'm just
going to be more strictabout his education with him.
And then it's alsothe combination of
the attitude of like the relaxedattitude about it.
(15:09):
Like he doesn't get sowrapped up in what other people
want to like him, buthe doesn't feel like his grades
define who he is, which isa great thing.
Holding on to say hi,I was going to say,
you know, his.
You definitely hear some of theopposite, right?
I can remember, even just frommy own childhood, this idea
where I put so much pressureon myself because I, I thought,
(15:34):
you know, in order for my,you know, and I have a
whole different dynamic, but,you know, the narrative that was
going on in my head was I had todo all these things in order to
kind of be be a good childand kind of live up to that
and the standards that they set.
Absolutely.
And so there was this like hyperfocused kind of perfectionism
(15:57):
that ended up kind of comingfrom that.
And so I can actually appreciatekind of and his and
and you know, he is therea little bit you know,
it doesn't define melike you said.
And I can be still, I knowyou know, my own human,
if you will, without it beingnecessarily attached to my
accomplishments, whichI think is huge.
(16:18):
Like, I think I wouldhave loved, like a little
freedom.
Absolutely to be ableto do that.
And so, you know, to kind ofI can it's that balance.
Yeah.
It's just like a differentlike everything about him
I feel like has to bea different reaction, response
and parenting style,like all those things
(16:39):
together. And and you don'tthink that.
Yes, of course, he'sstill the youngest, so I worry
the most about him.
Okay.
The other two, I'm like,you know, they're adults
now. Yeah.
You know, I've done the bestI could.
I'm hoping that they still canmake good choices in life.
But at the end of the day, Imy influence has diminished.
(17:02):
And now they have a greaterinfluence of their peers
and themselves, what they wantto do right for him.
I still need to work on himbecause he's only nine.
And you know he wasreally raised with this adult
household.
So he never really had toysto play with it like yeah.
It was just like he kind ofjust skipped the whole baby
(17:25):
baby and things just likeall right let's go.
This is what we're doing.
We've got a, we'vegot a bunch of other things
to do.
Yeah.
Know I think that I helped buildthat confidence.
Two is I can walk on tothe high school like you
know, you know, parking lotat like the grounds or whatever.
The campus.
Yeah.
And he just goes hangs outwith the high school kids
(17:46):
and he just thinks he'sone of them.
And you're just like,I wish I was super shy.
I know you're kind of can'tsee yourself as a kid.
I'm like watching himand I'm like, okay,
I would never do half the stuff.
He just.
He just walks up as a, hey,how's it going?
Yeah.
But you know, also thenbringing it back in my head
to stay focused on, you know,sometimes, like, you don't
(18:10):
have to.
And I'm sure he gets itfor me too.
The bossiness, that's no real.
Well, I like to blameother people, but I was
just about to ask that because Iheard you mentioned, like,
you know, seeing for himlike that, he was really
struggling, like with thespelling words, for example,
like, what was the narrativefor you?
Is there a specific reason that,like for you that was
such a like, oh, you know,red flag?
(18:32):
I need to like tune in.
Like, yes, I know oftentimesI hear from parents that we have
our own narratives that we'retrying to battle as well.
I'm trying to figure out, like,is this a response to, you know,
something that we'veexperienced?
All right.
For me, I'd love to know more.
Yeah.
Like so for me, growing upas oldest of five kids and
my parents weren't great parentsfor me, for what I needed.
(18:57):
Right.
They were super strict.
I was not allowed to doanything ever.
And if I got an A-minusresponse was not a great job.
I was.
Well, I don't understand why,you know, work harder.
You should have done better.
Yeah.
And so, like, I kind of grew upwith that mentality that like,
it didn't matter what I didand I still do that as an adult.
Right.
(19:17):
Like it was never I was neversuccessful enough.
I was never good enough.
It was never enough for me whatthey thought I should be doing.
And that's going to be hard ona kid's like psyche.
Yeah, like, and, you know,I mean, when you're in the
middle of it, you don'treally realize it's true.
And so my parenting soundsalmost flipped on my parents.
(19:38):
Yeah.
Where my kids want todo something.
Yes.
Go experience life. Go do it.
But let's talk it through.
What does this look like?
And let's navigate it all thepossibilities before you
go do it. Yeah.
But if you still chooseto do it.
Oh you need to learnthese things right. Yeah.
Before you're an adult, beforeyou're like oh absolutely.
(19:59):
Yes.
I was kind of giving themthe like, yes.
You're giving them a basicstructure and kind of insights
or thoughts and weirdnessthat you have kind of
as an adult while alsostill saying, like, at the end
of the day, you've got to learnto navigate yourself.
Yeah.
Your own lesson.
And so I think, you know what?
JD has given him a lot ofthe freedom.
(20:20):
And then seeing thosefailures and seeing like
those grades coming in,I'm just saying almost like,
oh, maybe I'm failing him,maybe I'm not like this.
But then it wasn't.
I was just doing what I didfor the girls without
adjusting the parenting stylefor that child.
Yeah.
You know, you're just like,okay, like, come on.
(20:41):
And if your sister saidI, you know, I may say this,
but it's like, if your sisterscan do it, I know you can do
like you're capable of this,you know, and, and so I it's
this year is just goingto be really about trying
to adjust my parent in stylefor him. Yeah.
And it's gonna be really hardto be like the tough superstar
(21:04):
parent, but that's the parent.
He might need me to be with him.
Do you think that there wassome of that battle
internally to when when you sawkind of the struggle with the
selling words of like,I want to do things differently
from my parents at thesame time?
I'm like, oh, like you said,am I feeling, did I do something
(21:24):
wrong?
Like, it's not working?
What's happening?
Yeah, exactly.
And then but also, let's berealistic, the kid will
spend hours playing a video gameor playing basketball
or football or doing anythingother than studying.
Is fireworks, right?
So typical.
Too many children, let'sjust call it like it is.
So, so in my head.
(21:44):
And like every time,if you spend half the more time
you spend doing all theseother things.
Yeah.
Just just spelling words, then,you know, them.
So I just really have to work onparenting, okay.
And I'm not sure what thatlooks like.
And I just laughed too,because there's a lot of things
with the third kid that I kindof just, I my life was different
(22:05):
than I when I had the first oneor second one.
Yeah.
Where it's just you look at it,you're like, oh, it's bad.
It's just thrown together.
It's no longer this nice,neat thing that the other girls
had to make.
Like, yeah, it just.
And then there was anythingwith it, the sheet, you're like,
did you even attempt to putyour sheet back on.
It's just French in the bottom.
And then like in the roomyou see this little pockets
(22:25):
of what used to be clean clothesand he's just hidden.
Yeah.
Because for whatever reason, itseems easier to hide
your clothes and hang it 100%.
Like I see the same thing.
Yeah.
So I think I just heard, like,you're the only kid here now.
You're going now from theyoungest of having all
these like, oh, you're like,so great to me, seeing and being
(22:47):
more aware and all the littlethings that I want you to do
better.
You know, and we need to drivemore attention to where.
So I think this is justgoing to be a rough year
for both of us.
Growing pains.
Yeah.
And you know, and I know thisis the challenge of it,
but I'm think there's goingto be a lot of days for all
(23:08):
of you in the corner rocking,crying like yeah, exactly.
That was the yeah. Yeah.
And all these things these dayswhere I send a text message
to the girls and I'm like,what do you guys think?
You know, because I do.
They've gone through myparenting.
And I do like theirfeedback too, because I want
(23:29):
to make sure I'm doing theright thing.
Okay. So there's, there'sa lot of text messages
for the girls.
What would you say.
What do you think.
You know.
And they're on the otherside of it.
But they've been raisedby me too.
So I feel like it's a goodcombination situation. So.
Yeah. Okay. So I'm addingmy seasoning.
Yes or no okay.
(23:50):
And then after this where am Iheaded?
So, you know, with thisyou're going to turn it off
and you're literally just goingto throw everything in and just
actually you guys are going totake this.
I do about half of this, mixit all in.
Okay.
And then I actually doabout half of this as well.
So all of that half half okay.
And leave that alonefor now okay.
So together it's a mixit in here.
(24:12):
Yeah.
Mix in the restaurant together.
Perfect.
I'm all about using 1 or 2pans, like.
Yes.
Again, we're trying tomake it easier on parents
because we don't.
We're dealing with, you know,messy rooms and spelling words.
And then I have to try.
Ten or, you know, ten pansand all the dishes
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that come along with exactlylike, everything.
And, you know, like, you know,if you don't have those,
they are responsiblesuper sauces in the house,
which I think is important.
Right. Yeah.
You know, I wantedto circle back because you said
something that I thinkis so valuable and that I don't
hear a lot from parents,which is I'm open to feedback
(24:54):
from my kids abouthow am I doing.
Can you tell me, like what?
Where does that come from?
And like for most people,you get feedback or the,
you know, even the slightest.
It's like, don't, don'ttalk to me about my parents.
You know, it's it's such atouchy subject because it's such
a personal cycle. Right.
And I think you asked meit has to be directly from
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the heart.
Okay.
Tell me more like so whenparents judge, you know,
their parent is snarkyand whatever.
Okay?
It's not like they're hereto help you.
It's we're here to judge you andtell you everything you're
doing wrong.
And we're doing right.
Right.
So more like that.
That competition elicitedred lines.
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I mean, I will tell you, I'm,I judge a lot.
I at least standing because Ifeel like there's some,
you know, that judge, butthey're like, oh no, I'm not.
I'm.
And so I appreciate at leastthe ownership.
Yeah.
So you know I get that.
But at the same timeoccasionally there's
(25:58):
helpful advice I can givea spirit of that. Yeah.
With the girls.
It's not coming from a judge.
Nothing.
I mean, they couldvery well say, mom, you suck.
Cool.
Thanks for sharing.
You know, feedback.
And it's okay, becauseI know what they're saying.
I'm asking them and givingthem permission for
the feedback.
And I think when you askpermission and you're
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willing to, you're at a placementally, physically,
emotionally where you'rewilling to hear somebody out.
Yeah, that's what opens up theconversation.
And it's like that with anythingright.
And that's a really great point.
I think kind of going backto that unsolicited right.
There's there can be so manylike thought processes
where you see someone and you'relike I'm just going to tell you
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what to do, how to makethis better.
And like you said,they may not be in the mental
capacity or see to be ableto receive it with the intention
that you're trying todeliver it.
And so then it very muchdoes like this isn't helpful.
Like, please stop talkingright now anyway, with the kids.
Like there are situationsthe girls especially having sex
for this in this versionthroughout all the other
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sounds good.
But there's Hunter Harris,who have my eight year old had
a conversation with me about.
She's frustrated, the wayher body looked or the food
she was eating or whatever.
Okay.
And you just get to, all right.
And we're responding to youas a mom.
Are you looking for the responseas a parent or are
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you looking for the responseas a nutritionist and somebody
in the industry?
Yeah, because all three of thoseare very it's like asking,
are you looking for somethingor are you asking for
a solution?
Yeah.
What do you need from me? Yes.
And then once you figure outwhat the need is, yeah,
then you can adjustyour response based on that.
So, Yes.
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So then you're just like, okay.
And then you go that direction.
So when I ask the girlsif because I'm like, okay,
am I making I don't want tomake a mistake.
Yeah.
I mean, there's a third kidhaving worked a parent for
23 years ish.
And yourself is going tomake a mistake.
Right.
And so, what was it recentlythat I asked the girls out?
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So the girls have always beenobsessed with surf camp, okay.
And lived and died and saw,like, surf camp was their world,
Since Jules was my oldest, was9 or 10.
So start going and then caretook it on because her
sister took it on and loved it.
And surf had to go for a week.
No parent contact at alland it was just their summer
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and it was so important.
And then for me to seetheir growth from within,
because your parentsaren't there to guide you.
Yeah, you got to figure outhow to do this yourself.
Yeah, absolutely.
And and the maturity,there's so many great benefits
from this program. Okay.
And I sent JJ, last summer forthe first time.
Okay.
Well, he again is young,is a different lifestyle.
(28:51):
My girls would go offlike my oldest was for a divorce
household.
Last time was with her dad,half time with me.
So she was used to goingperiods of time without me.
Got it.
The middle would go tomy parents house and visit
with them for a weekor two weeks.
Or how long?
Often, like whenevershe wanted to.
I never really hadthat experience because
he was part of the Covid thing.
And when he would have startedto do that and yeah,
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he just didn't get thatopportunity.
So this was the first timehe actually was away from home
to the point where youcan see me and talk
to me for more than one day.
And there was home care wasthere on site.
So he she was a counselorthat last year.
Okay.
So he knew she was thereand he was okay as far as
that goes.
And you're seriously just astupid intern thrown together
(29:35):
super easy.
Awesome.
And then sprinkle cheeseand all that good stuff,
and then, some.
I'm the cheese on time, and thenthe team members are all that
in there, and then we sprinkleall these things.
But now, thank you for yourpatience.
And I guess you want to usewords versus just for you.
That's right.
(29:55):
And so yeah.
So this is like this first I'mgoing to that in had a bad cabin
with like a couple of kidsI just didn't I was wasn't
the counselor.
So only was this his firstexperience.
He had not I was in not like anormal experience.
There either.
Okay.
I have to learn to navigate.
Yeah.
(30:15):
Like that's just it is so.
And I picked him up.
He was super excited.
Just couple things thathe was done with it.
Like, I don't want to go backand care for me.
It's like, yeah, he justwasn't having a great time.
And she.
I mean, so he could gofor a walk.
And so you can talk toher about, you know, just
different things going onwhile he was there.
(30:37):
And this year I gave himthis expensive 15 or $18 a week.
So it's like a really expensiveprogram, not something where
you're like, hey, let's try thisout again.
Yeah.
You have to be committedto the cost.
Absolutely.
So I said, hey, you.
I go back and he's like, no,I don't want to go again.
And so then at that point,what do you do?
Do you tell your kid he'sgoing to go back and try it
(30:58):
again?
Now he's a year older and it'sa different experience
this year.
And it's just there's not goingto be there.
So what did you end up doing?
I consulted the girls okay.
And they said, you know,he was young last year
skip this year I'm try itone more year the following
summer.
So he'll be going in at ten.
And I'm just gonna tell himI want to try it one more time.
(31:20):
You're older now.
Different kids.
It's really just somethingI really don't like.
Yeah, yeah, but it's just if theprice wasn't so expensive,
it would have been a differentsituation, right? Okay.
So you really got to factorin the cost.
Like, is this a lessonhe needs to learn?
What if he's just miserable?
I just waste all this moneyon something where he's
(31:41):
just nobody happy withthat, right?
Yeah.
Well it's our.
Yeah. Yes.
I'm just trying to navigateand so and the feedback was
you should try it againbut don't force them to go
this year.
You know because sometimes it'sjust like we try brussel
sprouts right.
Yeah.
Sometimes your first timeyou try them you're like
oh that's disgusting.
And then you'll try themlater on and your taste
(32:02):
buds change or someone made ita different way or whatever,
and all of a sudden they'rethe best you've ever had. Yeah.
So here we got brussel sproutsone like right.
So I kind of like the kidsto try their experiences
a few times to see.
Yeah.
And then also I'm like,I might just be neurotic
about this.
This is not really is thereno lesson to learn from here?
(32:22):
What for you.
I'm curious.
Like, why is that so importantfor them to give it a try
and maybe even more than once,with some time in between
at some point?
Yeah.
Why is that something that foryou is a high value, you change
your perspective to changeyour life change.
You've learned more alongthe way, and your experience
(32:43):
is not going to be necessarily.
It's like copy and paste.
You're creating a differentexperience.
Yeah. So, if you goback into the artist screen
and the pickles and like,drizzle or whatever.
Yeah, all the pickles, pickles.
And then there's some cheese on.
Okay.
(33:03):
So over on my dad's and thenit's on top, and then I wait
till it comes out beforeI sprinkle more on. Okay.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
So I don't need to useas much of it.
I don't use as much in it.
And that's really high fat.
And there's no nutritionalvalue in there.
Let's just call it what it is.
It's just amazing.
Oh.
(33:23):
So, yeah.
So I think, and you don'tever want a kid to have
such a negative experience ona life of that, right?
You want them to reference itand find the bullet
points of, hey, like thisworked out or whatever.
Yeah.
And sometimes it's just notfor them.
It's hard.
Again, it's hard because,you know, you compare your kids
(33:47):
so much.
The two girls like that wasso much. And it it helped,
you know, format them towho they are now like
and some of the things that theyvalue now in community service
and like all these thingsthat they teach and learn
to get along with everybody,and people would fly in from
other countries, so.
Oh, wow.
You know, like, yeah, there isjust cultures and just so much
(34:09):
experience.
They're learning fromthis one week.
That I would hate for himto miss out on it. Yeah.
Absolutely.
It's you know if he'snot learning anything from it
and I think that's a reallygreat point of being able.
Yes.
There's there's that value.
Right.
And that those are the thingsthat we you saw it sounds like
in your girls.
(34:29):
And we're able to kind of saythey got so much out of that.
I would love for, you know,JJ to kind of get the
same amount at the same timebecause they're unique,
different individualsand humans, then he may
not get kind of the same.
From, you know, even though,like you said, same parents,
same activities, sameeverything.
(34:51):
But there's there'sstill different people are
likely going to get kind ofdifferent things out of it.
Exactly.
One thing after 1 or 2, is itbecause he has had that
experience and havingto be alone?
Yeah, he's not really alone.
So, you know, and who knows?
And I think that's that'sbrings me back to kind of
what you said at thebeginning where you're gonna,
in some way, shape or form,we're gonna screw our kids up.
(35:13):
Yeah, right.
And let's just.
Oh, man, I say it all the time.
And so it's just figuring outkind of, are you doing kind of
the best that you can dowith the information
that you have?
You know, if not like,it sounds like for you, if
it's information that maybeyou don't have, you're willing
to kind of go seek out,you know, other thoughts,
maybe other, you know, educationor whatever that looks like
(35:36):
to be able to at least make aninformed decision.
And then at that point,I'm saying this is this is what
I've got.
Yeah, I think that's very truebecause I am able to do personal
training.
Like here's today's issue.
Yeah, this is my therapy,right? Yeah.
I like it's a mutuallybeneficial situation.
These clients are older.
They've gone through itlike something you're
doing here.
(35:56):
Right.
Just sharing your experienceand then creating something
that you can learn fromand create the best version
of yourself for your kids,your family that you can create
while doing it.
Absolutely.
Okay, let me grab thetater tots.
I've been hanging out hereand then after, so I'm going to
put them on top.
And then what am I doing therein the oven?
(36:18):
I don't know what I was I saythree 5450 something like that
forever. Okay.
A heated oven and a heated.
Well, we don't know if itneeds to be eaten.
At least, at least, at leastmake it a temp.
That's okay.
Let me, you is also letme go back here. Okay?
You guys, nine years ago.
(36:39):
Okay.
And here we swap out the,these here has for, like,
cauliflower hot or sweet potato,two hearts.
Okay.
And then, maybe with alittle bit more nutritional
value.
That's always an option.
So you take your house, so maybefinding something that that fits
your palate.
(37:00):
It's your kid's palate.
Exactly.
I mean, the goal, ofcourse, is to, I don't
even know if ancestry 50,but that is what I turned it
on, so. 350.
And how about how long I.
So it's like a golden brown.
Yeah.
Perfect, I like that.
That sounds okay.
I can do that.
So let's have this in here.
And in the meantime.
(37:22):
In the meantime I did pre bake.
Went ahead of time.
Look at that.
You see you already know make itlook like that.
Yes. Perfect.
Good job.
Hey this is an expert.
And so you said after this,I'm drizzling on top.
Exactly.
I can do that.
And then, like you said, kind ofserving it with on top of,
(37:44):
like a bit of something that hada little nutritional
value to it.
Yeah.
Because overall, when you'rejust doing a serving of it,
you can ground turkey,you're getting potatoes,
which had some, well, kind ofpotatoes.
Right.
You know, there are somepeople, some you can feel, some.
And then yes, I need some morenutritional value. Okay.
(38:06):
Helps as well.
Yeah.
Like, let's be honest, even asnot nutritionally dense
and healthy as this, maybeit's still better than doing
the drive throughBig Mac, right?
Why am I think that's a greatpoint, right?
Because if there are ways thatwe can get creative because our
kiddos aren't, most kiddos,I should say, aren't like
(38:28):
lining up the door to stuffthemselves with brussel sprouts
or cauliflower, you know?
And so we've got to berealistic about what
are the things that our kiddosare going to eat.
And so if the options are drivethrough, you know, McDonald's,
get yourself a real Big Mac or,you know, something
that's kind of healthyand healthy, at least
(38:48):
we can control, like thesalt content.
You know, any of that?
Like you said, maybe you do likea little fat kind of an island.
And or you want it.
Yeah.
The tater tots.
I know you mentionedyou swapped out and, instead
of ground beef, you didground turkey to kind of
get a leaner meat in there.
As well as cutting downsome of the cheese,
(39:10):
I totally did.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, because the thing is,to what you're feeding your kids
is not only whatthey're learning and they're
going to take on with them,there's also they're
growing. Right.
We need to create obesity issuch a problem.
The United States.
And the more I'm in thisindustry, the more I'm learning
not to judge.
But also it still shocks mehow many parents like our age
(39:31):
who grew up off of soda.
Yeah, not new vegetables,not new fruit.
I just like, sometimes, like,what do you eat? Yeah.
And then that's what they knowand that's what they give
to the kids.
But luckily now we have so manyother sources out there
as far as entries and TikTok,which show you great healthy
recipes, on Instagram to help ustry and create a better version
(39:57):
of what we grew up with. Yeah.
And yeah, this food is what'sfueling them.
So it is fuel.
So more we could dobetter options.
There does.
Absolutely.
So I love that you sharethis recipe.
Thank you so much I am I knowmy kids are super excited to
try it.
I know Josh is really excited totry it so I'm sure it's going
(40:18):
to be a hit.
So thank you so much forsharing this and as well
as sharing your story as far asnormalizing again, hopefully the
message is parenting isreally hard and that is normal
at every age.
And that you're not alone indoing this.
(40:39):
And it can feel awful.
Awfully lonely sometimes.
And know that there areother parents.
It is not just all, you know,vacuuming in your pearls.
We are like, we're in itand struggling.
And just like, find your time.
Yeah, those people are with youthrough the struggles.
You rely on them or they relyon your own family.
(40:59):
Sometimes you just gotta findyour tribe.
They fit into you, and sometimesyou gotta try a couple different
ways, right?
Yeah.
And then we have less peoplesupport you.
It makes it less scary.
Yeah, absolutely.
All right.
Well, thank you so much.
And thanks for joining us.
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So let's eat! Hey everyone,my guest today is the
lovely KateThanks for joining us today.
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You're welcome.
All right, so for everyonewho doesn't know you out there,
can you introduce yourselfand tell us a little bit
about your parenting lifeand what you do?
Sure.
I’m Kate Anderson And I'ma mom of three kids
and my kids are all older.
22, just graduated college, 18.
Just graduated high school.
And then the little guy is nineand he's just living
(01:12):
his best life.
That’s where we’re at with that.
And then I also own a business.
I own Kate Anderson fitnessand just trying to juggle
parenting and kidsand everything and just trying
to raise, like, happy, healthygood for society kids.
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Can you tell us kind ofhow we can find you?
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So, Anderson Fitness,you can find it on Facebook
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(01:53):
Facebook.
More reliablesource, I’m on there more often
And let's be honestwith regard to what we offer
we really catered towards momsand families.
When I first started11 years ago, I had two goals
in mind one, get moms togetherfor the social dynamic.
Right?
Because we all need to suffertogether, nobody wants to suffer
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alone. Absolutely.
What can I do to makefitness and nutrition easy
for moms or families in general?
Because you alwayshave something.
Yeah, we like moms.
We always put ourselveson the back burner.
And really, we need to bethe oxygen mask.
And we need to care of ourselvesto help others.
Yeah. We always Forget thatpart.
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Absolutely.
Everything we do iskid friendly.
And there's been days.
And this is why I love it.
Is the days where people walk inwith puke all over
their clothes.
And like I am here or.
I made it.
You're my person.
Glad you're here. Yeah.
And then throw the kidat somebody.
You know.
Absolutely. Very cool.
(02:59):
And so that's definitelya place to check out more local.
Do you do it just herein Temecula.
It’s Temecula, Menifeeand, Murrieta those 3 locations,
Kind of the tri-citiesYeah. Perfect.
All right, so make sure tocheck it out.
All right.
So what recipe are you goingto share with us today?
Okay.
First my disclaimerthis is not healthy, but
(03:19):
it came from one of ourdear friends as a quick,
easy meal.
Healthy.
You're healthier.
I've made it healthier, guys.
It's healthier.
But the thing is, the kidslove it.
And when you have thisa few minutes to just throw
something together, this is justa great one to do.
So these are going toprotein in it right?
Absolutely.
So let me you maybe we'll figurethis out.
(03:42):
But one of the things I wantedto mention make it healthier
that we're talking about it.
Okay, so, friend,can I eat this?
We actually got a giant fatof lettuce.
Yeah, and, like, make a saladand throw this on top of it.
Okay, so that way we're gettingmore vegetables that we
are actually the fun stuffof it.
Yeah, right.
These things together.
Just like a salad bowl.
Okay. Yeah.
(04:02):
And so this is calledand you call it like the Big Mac
is something that casserole.
Yes. Okay.
So we made it healthy.
And I think the fact thatlike you said, you can
then serve it on top ofwhat else?
I mean, that would still alignwith kind of the Big Mac, right?
You normally.
Yeah.
What greenery on thereeven though it's not
maybe as much as like soupy.
(04:23):
So we can add that.
So I love that okay.
So what do I get started with.
And I'll I'll start cookingwhile we chit chat. Perfect.
You're gonna startwith the ground turkey for
then let's go back.
Let's start with the onions.
First we're going to take themand turn them brown.
Okay, I can do that.
And then I'll just like spraythe pan or whatever.
You are there I can do that.
So I do want to hear more.
(04:44):
I know we're chattinga little bit, and I'd love
for you to kind of share some ofreal life parenting struggles,
because after all, that's whatwe're here to chatting about.
And, hey, talk tome a little bit about some of
your experience, why we'rekind of the different dynamics,
your older kiddos, and thenadding, you're you're the
third, right.
(05:05):
And some of the, the strugglesthat kind of happened there.
And I know your familyis a little bit different
because you're not alwaysparenting with a partner,
correct?
Yeah. So, actually both timelike I share with you, as this
military is now pilot too, sohe has always been gone.
(05:26):
So when I raised both girls,he was just not around.
He's missed, I think, with theexception, maybe two
birthdays, all Kerry'sbirthdays.
Oh, really?
And so, you know.
And she's now 18.
She's not 18.
Exactly.
Just to give you guys whatI think she I think he's missed
maybe 15 or 16 ever 18birthdays. Wow.
(05:47):
And there's years whereI was just sad because
he'd come home the day after herbirthday or close.
You know, we just kind of.
It just kind of happened.
Yeah.
And, you know, you deal withthat heartbreak.
And within.
And then.
Yes.
And then the little guy.
So now he's my husband's homesomewhere, right?
And then we got this little guy,and there's an age gap
(06:09):
between the two older ones.
Yeah.
And then this little guy who isvery different, you know,
my first one was seveninches for the second one
is easy to like.
Happy go lucky to pleaseeverybody.
And super easy.
Always willing to helpwith anything or everyone.
And then you got this little guywho's just neither of
those things.
(06:29):
Well, he's both of those things.
Really.
Okay, so I think it was his ownlittle creature. Yeah.
So it's very different.
And they say this and it'sso true to having the two girls
and then having a boy.
His boys are just different.
Like, your boys arereally great.
Like they really are great.
My son literally wakes up.
And for the time he was born,I swore he'd wake up.
(06:50):
I want to just destroy stuff.
Yeah.
Lots of energy.
Yeah.
You know, like, let's take thisapart. Let's.
And I'm like, what is happening?
Yeah.
Especially when you raisetwo girls who are just very,
like, energy, but it'sa different type of energy.
Okay?
And somebody told me once and I,I held on to it and boy
it's not other you know worse.
(07:12):
And the girls are justwith energy.
And it's just a differentenergy okay.
And I'm so grateful to have thembecause how boring with my life.
The other boys.
But yeah.
So like there's challengeswith him and he is pretty much
being raised by not just me.
But then he's got thesetwo older sisters who are very
(07:34):
much like this weirddynamic of big sister role
as well as a parent role.
How does that play out?
Like how do you thinkthat kind of changes things?
So like they're on himlike way harder and I don't know
what happens, but like, as youhave kids, you sure caring less
about their structure and youjust think, yeah, they turned
(07:57):
out okay.
Oh my goodness.
I can totally relate.
I remember, you know, with myfirst one Malachi, it was
very much like sanitizeeverything and like,
oh my goodness, you did thislike sound the alarm, you know,
versus like, but at the endof the day, like you would
sanitize everything and youso watching the bottom
of a sheet.
So then by the secondwhen you're like, oh,
(08:18):
you're gonna lick your shoeanyway.
So you just, you just and Ithink you just become more
relaxed with it and you justmaybe become okay, like,
you know what?
They're going to be okay.
And I think it's my favoritething to share to people
is whenever they'reworried, like, yeah, your kid's
going to be fine, right?
Like and also, you know, atleast there's some talk about
therapy later on, right?
(08:39):
Like, I know I'm giving somebodya job, a future job.
I know there's no matter howgreat of a parent we think
we are not.
Yeah.
Our kids, we grew upwith a whole different
perspective over somethinglike what happened to
what really happened.
And even my girls now haveconversations and I'm like,
that's not what happened.
But in their head, yes, that'show their life look, right?
(09:00):
Absolutely.
Can't judge on theirperspective.
So I think just giving yourselfthe freedom to just be like,
yeah, like, are you doingthe best you can for what?
You're good.
Sure.
And then each kid hasa different personality
too. Yeah.
And, JJ is definitely overlyconfident, which has its
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own challenges.
We think honesty. Right.
We're absolutely.
And I imagine again,like we look at these qualities
and sometimes right, it can makeit really difficult
on the parents jobbecause you're you're trying
to navigate this at thesame time knowing like
the confidence, like you said,can be a huge asset
as he grows up.
And so how do you navigate likeI want you to feel confident
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at the same time like do there'slimits. Yeah.
I mean I've learned to like mynew phrase that I've been
using lately is stuffwe can talk.
I mean, I talk.
Yeah, and his sisters talk.
He talks to me more thanthe rest of us.
And I just learned to say,you are going to be such
a successful sales personor business person later on.
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Yeah, because that is a greatcharacteristic that you're
looking for in a futureemployee.
Right now the endlessramble you're.
Yeah.
Two seconds.
You I think you're absolutelyright.
It's a balance of likeyes we want to we want to
do this.
At the same time if you arean environment where you
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can't be the only one likemonopolizing the conversation,
but there's also some degree oflike sharing.
We're working on this.
Hey, we're all a workin progress.
That's that's the real truth.
Yeah.
And yeah, I know with JJ, he's.
My girls are so academic.
Okay.
Like, I, I couldn'teven tell you how to log
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into their grades at all,because if they got a
minus that or freaking out,I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean, so, you know, I, I yeah,I never check their grades.
I never ever, ever, ever.
And they're always studying.
They're always doing homework.
They're always reading booksand they're just so
academic. Yeah.
And then you got JJ who,he's smart and I believe is just
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as smart as the sisters,but he doesn't want to apply it
in the same way that theywanted to apply it.
So with my oldest, she was smartand wanted everyone to know
how smart she was. Okay.
And then with the middle,we always joke that she's the
secret smarty and likeshe's smart, so she has
to work so hard and studyso hard to get where she was.
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Right.
It didn't come natural to her.
Yeah, but she's willing to putin the work because that's
what she wanted.
And then JJ he's like ohit is what it is.
Yeah I looked through his reportcard.
Yeah 80% in his writing.
And like two my girlsnever going to be ever okay.
And I'm like dude this is likealmost a C.
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And he's like well it's 80%.
It's still a B.
And even C's are fine.
So you get degrees are like,let me kid you and you
get the degree.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, and that's the thing,right?
I'm sure that he mightlook at it and go, do I want to
go?
And that's what I'mworried about.
And then like, you know,and it's such a weird switch
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to have two very academic kidsand then have the one where
you're just fighting for it.
And I'm trying to change mymindset, too, because I was
so frustrated last year withhis spelling.
Okay, 20 words, two weeks.
Learn them.
I don't understand why you can'tlearn them.
And so then I startedrealizing that for me,
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when I learn things,I got to move around.
I got to travel and whatever,I don't I can't just study
something.
Yeah.
So then I just start tyingthat in with baseball.
So we play around the worldwith his spelling words.
Okay.
Which helped, but stillthere were some weeks
where he just wasn't doing greatwith the styles. Right.
And the frustration.
And you, you just want to saylike, dude, like I don't
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understand why you're suchan idiot about that
in your brain.
Yeah, right.
And then I'm like, I'm suresome of the negativity and the
my frustration he could feeland he, he could be from
frustrated.
Then that starts to becomea self-talk.
Him right for him for him.
Yeah.
Like oh I can't do it.
Like I can't do it,I can't do it.
Yeah.
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So I switched around this yearand the new thing I'm
telling him, and they getthis thing lined up that I can
switch it this year.
So he, got tested in his wholeoffensive game, which is a story
in itself.
I when he became he's goinginto a fourth or fifth class.
Okay.
So what I've done now, somethinghe only on paper are you for
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like they tested youand they said, you're so smart
now they know you're so smart.
They're putting you in a fourth,fifth class and fourth grade.
So they think you're so smartthat you're capable of
doing this.
Yeah.
That means you're one ofthe smartest kids in school.
So you have to work sohard this year to prove to them
how smart you are.
And I'm hoping that maybelike that switch dynamic
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of telling him everyone believeshow smart you are.
Build him up and put in the workthen. Yeah.
Do you think that for him?
You know, because I hear yousaying that, like you said
on paper.
So for the game is our versionof the gifted and talented,
you know, program that,you know, he's got the skills.
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He's got the capabilities.
Do you think for himthere's just a lack
of motivation or lack of,like buying?
I think he's a third kid.
You know, birth is a real.
But I think it's yeahI think it's, combination one
the lack of motivation andself-discipline to do it.
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And you just see every kid'sdifferent then we just have to
be on him more.
Right.
And actually when theyappreciate it I'm just
going to be more strictabout his education with him.
And then it's alsothe combination of
the attitude of like the relaxedattitude about it.
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Like he doesn't get sowrapped up in what other people
want to like him, buthe doesn't feel like his grades
define who he is, which isa great thing.
Holding on to say hi,I was going to say,
you know, his.
You definitely hear some of theopposite, right?
I can remember, even just frommy own childhood, this idea
where I put so much pressureon myself because I, I thought,
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you know, in order for my,you know, and I have a
whole different dynamic, but,you know, the narrative that was
going on in my head was I had todo all these things in order to
kind of be be a good childand kind of live up to that
and the standards that they set.
Absolutely.
And so there was this like hyperfocused kind of perfectionism
(15:57):
that ended up kind of comingfrom that.
And so I can actually appreciatekind of and his and
and you know, he is therea little bit you know,
it doesn't define melike you said.
And I can be still, I knowyou know, my own human,
if you will, without it beingnecessarily attached to my
accomplishments, whichI think is huge.
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Like, I think I wouldhave loved, like a little
freedom.
Absolutely to be ableto do that.
And so, you know, to kind ofI can it's that balance.
Yeah.
It's just like a differentlike everything about him
I feel like has to bea different reaction, response
and parenting style,like all those things
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together. And and you don'tthink that.
Yes, of course, he'sstill the youngest, so I worry
the most about him.
Okay.
The other two, I'm like,you know, they're adults
now. Yeah.
You know, I've done the bestI could.
I'm hoping that they still canmake good choices in life.
But at the end of the day, Imy influence has diminished.
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And now they have a greaterinfluence of their peers
and themselves, what they wantto do right for him.
I still need to work on himbecause he's only nine.
And you know he wasreally raised with this adult
household.
So he never really had toysto play with it like yeah.
It was just like he kind ofjust skipped the whole baby
(17:25):
baby and things just likeall right let's go.
This is what we're doing.
We've got a, we'vegot a bunch of other things
to do.
Yeah.
Know I think that I helped buildthat confidence.
Two is I can walk on tothe high school like you
know, you know, parking lotat like the grounds or whatever.
The campus.
Yeah.
And he just goes hangs outwith the high school kids
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and he just thinks he'sone of them.
And you're just like,I wish I was super shy.
I know you're kind of can'tsee yourself as a kid.
I'm like watching himand I'm like, okay,
I would never do half the stuff.
He just.
He just walks up as a, hey,how's it going?
Yeah.
But you know, also thenbringing it back in my head
to stay focused on, you know,sometimes, like, you don't
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have to.
And I'm sure he gets itfor me too.
The bossiness, that's no real.
Well, I like to blameother people, but I was
just about to ask that because Iheard you mentioned, like,
you know, seeing for himlike that, he was really
struggling, like with thespelling words, for example,
like, what was the narrativefor you?
Is there a specific reason that,like for you that was
such a like, oh, you know,red flag?
(18:32):
I need to like tune in.
Like, yes, I know oftentimesI hear from parents that we have
our own narratives that we'retrying to battle as well.
I'm trying to figure out, like,is this a response to, you know,
something that we'veexperienced?
All right.
For me, I'd love to know more.
Yeah.
Like so for me, growing upas oldest of five kids and
my parents weren't great parentsfor me, for what I needed.
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Right.
They were super strict.
I was not allowed to doanything ever.
And if I got an A-minusresponse was not a great job.
I was.
Well, I don't understand why,you know, work harder.
You should have done better.
Yeah.
And so, like, I kind of grew upwith that mentality that like,
it didn't matter what I didand I still do that as an adult.
Right.
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Like it was never I was neversuccessful enough.
I was never good enough.
It was never enough for me whatthey thought I should be doing.
And that's going to be hard ona kid's like psyche.
Yeah, like, and, you know,I mean, when you're in the
middle of it, you don'treally realize it's true.
And so my parenting soundsalmost flipped on my parents.
(19:38):
Yeah.
Where my kids want todo something.
Yes.
Go experience life. Go do it.
But let's talk it through.
What does this look like?
And let's navigate it all thepossibilities before you
go do it. Yeah.
But if you still chooseto do it.
Oh you need to learnthese things right. Yeah.
Before you're an adult, beforeyou're like oh absolutely.
(19:59):
Yes.
I was kind of giving themthe like, yes.
You're giving them a basicstructure and kind of insights
or thoughts and weirdnessthat you have kind of
as an adult while alsostill saying, like, at the end
of the day, you've got to learnto navigate yourself.
Yeah.
Your own lesson.
And so I think, you know what?
JD has given him a lot ofthe freedom.
(20:20):
And then seeing thosefailures and seeing like
those grades coming in,I'm just saying almost like,
oh, maybe I'm failing him,maybe I'm not like this.
But then it wasn't.
I was just doing what I didfor the girls without
adjusting the parenting stylefor that child.
Yeah.
You know, you're just like,okay, like, come on.
(20:41):
And if your sister saidI, you know, I may say this,
but it's like, if your sisterscan do it, I know you can do
like you're capable of this,you know, and, and so I it's
this year is just goingto be really about trying
to adjust my parent in stylefor him. Yeah.
And it's gonna be really hardto be like the tough superstar
(21:04):
parent, but that's the parent.
He might need me to be with him.
Do you think that there wassome of that battle
internally to when when you sawkind of the struggle with the
selling words of like,I want to do things differently
from my parents at thesame time?
I'm like, oh, like you said,am I feeling, did I do something
(21:24):
wrong?
Like, it's not working?
What's happening?
Yeah, exactly.
And then but also, let's berealistic, the kid will
spend hours playing a video gameor playing basketball
or football or doing anythingother than studying.
Is fireworks, right?
So typical.
Too many children, let'sjust call it like it is.
So, so in my head.
(21:44):
And like every time,if you spend half the more time
you spend doing all theseother things.
Yeah.
Just just spelling words, then,you know, them.
So I just really have to work onparenting, okay.
And I'm not sure what thatlooks like.
And I just laughed too,because there's a lot of things
with the third kid that I kindof just, I my life was different
(22:05):
than I when I had the first oneor second one.
Yeah.
Where it's just you look at it,you're like, oh, it's bad.
It's just thrown together.
It's no longer this nice,neat thing that the other girls
had to make.
Like, yeah, it just.
And then there was anythingwith it, the sheet, you're like,
did you even attempt to putyour sheet back on.
It's just French in the bottom.
And then like in the roomyou see this little pockets
(22:25):
of what used to be clean clothesand he's just hidden.
Yeah.
Because for whatever reason, itseems easier to hide
your clothes and hang it 100%.
Like I see the same thing.
Yeah.
So I think I just heard, like,you're the only kid here now.
You're going now from theyoungest of having all
these like, oh, you're like,so great to me, seeing and being
(22:47):
more aware and all the littlethings that I want you to do
better.
You know, and we need to drivemore attention to where.
So I think this is justgoing to be a rough year
for both of us.
Growing pains.
Yeah.
And you know, and I know thisis the challenge of it,
but I'm think there's goingto be a lot of days for all
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of you in the corner rocking,crying like yeah, exactly.
That was the yeah. Yeah.
And all these things these dayswhere I send a text message
to the girls and I'm like,what do you guys think?
You know, because I do.
They've gone through myparenting.
And I do like theirfeedback too, because I want
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to make sure I'm doing theright thing.
Okay. So there's, there'sa lot of text messages
for the girls.
What would you say.
What do you think.
You know.
And they're on the otherside of it.
But they've been raisedby me too.
So I feel like it's a goodcombination situation. So.
Yeah. Okay. So I'm addingmy seasoning.
Yes or no okay.
(23:50):
And then after this where am Iheaded?
So, you know, with thisyou're going to turn it off
and you're literally just goingto throw everything in and just
actually you guys are going totake this.
I do about half of this, mixit all in.
Okay.
And then I actually doabout half of this as well.
So all of that half half okay.
And leave that alonefor now okay.
So together it's a mixit in here.
(24:12):
Yeah.
Mix in the restaurant together.
Perfect.
I'm all about using 1 or 2pans, like.
Yes.
Again, we're trying tomake it easier on parents
because we don't.
We're dealing with, you know,messy rooms and spelling words.
And then I have to try.
Ten or, you know, ten pansand all the dishes
(24:34):
that come along with exactlylike, everything.
And, you know, like, you know,if you don't have those,
they are responsiblesuper sauces in the house,
which I think is important.
Right. Yeah.
You know, I wantedto circle back because you said
something that I thinkis so valuable and that I don't
hear a lot from parents,which is I'm open to feedback
(24:54):
from my kids abouthow am I doing.
Can you tell me, like what?
Where does that come from?
And like for most people,you get feedback or the,
you know, even the slightest.
It's like, don't, don'ttalk to me about my parents.
You know, it's it's such atouchy subject because it's such
a personal cycle. Right.
And I think you asked meit has to be directly from
(25:15):
the heart.
Okay.
Tell me more like so whenparents judge, you know,
their parent is snarkyand whatever.
Okay?
It's not like they're hereto help you.
It's we're here to judge you andtell you everything you're
doing wrong.
And we're doing right.
Right.
So more like that.
That competition elicitedred lines.
(25:36):
I mean, I will tell you, I'm,I judge a lot.
I at least standing because Ifeel like there's some,
you know, that judge, butthey're like, oh no, I'm not.
I'm.
And so I appreciate at leastthe ownership.
Yeah.
So you know I get that.
But at the same timeoccasionally there's
(25:58):
helpful advice I can givea spirit of that. Yeah.
With the girls.
It's not coming from a judge.
Nothing.
I mean, they couldvery well say, mom, you suck.
Cool.
Thanks for sharing.
You know, feedback.
And it's okay, becauseI know what they're saying.
I'm asking them and givingthem permission for
the feedback.
And I think when you askpermission and you're
(26:18):
willing to, you're at a placementally, physically,
emotionally where you'rewilling to hear somebody out.
Yeah, that's what opens up theconversation.
And it's like that with anythingright.
And that's a really great point.
I think kind of going backto that unsolicited right.
There's there can be so manylike thought processes
where you see someone and you'relike I'm just going to tell you
(26:40):
what to do, how to makethis better.
And like you said,they may not be in the mental
capacity or see to be ableto receive it with the intention
that you're trying todeliver it.
And so then it very muchdoes like this isn't helpful.
Like, please stop talkingright now anyway, with the kids.
Like there are situationsthe girls especially having sex
for this in this versionthroughout all the other
(27:01):
sounds good.
But there's Hunter Harris,who have my eight year old had
a conversation with me about.
She's frustrated, the wayher body looked or the food
she was eating or whatever.
Okay.
And you just get to, all right.
And we're responding to youas a mom.
Are you looking for the responseas a parent or are
(27:22):
you looking for the responseas a nutritionist and somebody
in the industry?
Yeah, because all three of thoseare very it's like asking,
are you looking for somethingor are you asking for
a solution?
Yeah.
What do you need from me? Yes.
And then once you figure outwhat the need is, yeah,
then you can adjustyour response based on that.
So, Yes.
(27:42):
So then you're just like, okay.
And then you go that direction.
So when I ask the girlsif because I'm like, okay,
am I making I don't want tomake a mistake.
Yeah.
I mean, there's a third kidhaving worked a parent for
23 years ish.
And yourself is going tomake a mistake.
Right.
And so, what was it recentlythat I asked the girls out?
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So the girls have always beenobsessed with surf camp, okay.
And lived and died and saw,like, surf camp was their world,
Since Jules was my oldest, was9 or 10.
So start going and then caretook it on because her
sister took it on and loved it.
And surf had to go for a week.
No parent contact at alland it was just their summer
(28:29):
and it was so important.
And then for me to seetheir growth from within,
because your parentsaren't there to guide you.
Yeah, you got to figure outhow to do this yourself.
Yeah, absolutely.
And and the maturity,there's so many great benefits
from this program. Okay.
And I sent JJ, last summer forthe first time.
Okay.
Well, he again is young,is a different lifestyle.
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My girls would go offlike my oldest was for a divorce
household.
Last time was with her dad,half time with me.
So she was used to goingperiods of time without me.
Got it.
The middle would go tomy parents house and visit
with them for a weekor two weeks.
Or how long?
Often, like whenevershe wanted to.
I never really hadthat experience because
he was part of the Covid thing.
And when he would have startedto do that and yeah,
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he just didn't get thatopportunity.
So this was the first timehe actually was away from home
to the point where youcan see me and talk
to me for more than one day.
And there was home care wasthere on site.
So he she was a counselorthat last year.
Okay.
So he knew she was thereand he was okay as far as
that goes.
And you're seriously just astupid intern thrown together
(29:35):
super easy.
Awesome.
And then sprinkle cheeseand all that good stuff,
and then, some.
I'm the cheese on time, and thenthe team members are all that
in there, and then we sprinkleall these things.
But now, thank you for yourpatience.
And I guess you want to usewords versus just for you.
That's right.
(29:55):
And so yeah.
So this is like this first I'mgoing to that in had a bad cabin
with like a couple of kidsI just didn't I was wasn't
the counselor.
So only was this his firstexperience.
He had not I was in not like anormal experience.
There either.
Okay.
I have to learn to navigate.
Yeah.
(30:15):
Like that's just it is so.
And I picked him up.
He was super excited.
Just couple things thathe was done with it.
Like, I don't want to go backand care for me.
It's like, yeah, he justwasn't having a great time.
And she.
I mean, so he could gofor a walk.
And so you can talk toher about, you know, just
different things going onwhile he was there.
(30:37):
And this year I gave himthis expensive 15 or $18 a week.
So it's like a really expensiveprogram, not something where
you're like, hey, let's try thisout again.
Yeah.
You have to be committedto the cost.
Absolutely.
So I said, hey, you.
I go back and he's like, no,I don't want to go again.
And so then at that point,what do you do?
Do you tell your kid he'sgoing to go back and try it
(30:58):
again?
Now he's a year older and it'sa different experience
this year.
And it's just there's not goingto be there.
So what did you end up doing?
I consulted the girls okay.
And they said, you know,he was young last year
skip this year I'm try itone more year the following
summer.
So he'll be going in at ten.
And I'm just gonna tell himI want to try it one more time.
(31:20):
You're older now.
Different kids.
It's really just somethingI really don't like.
Yeah, yeah, but it's just if theprice wasn't so expensive,
it would have been a differentsituation, right? Okay.
So you really got to factorin the cost.
Like, is this a lessonhe needs to learn?
What if he's just miserable?
I just waste all this moneyon something where he's
(31:41):
just nobody happy withthat, right?
Yeah.
Well it's our.
Yeah. Yes.
I'm just trying to navigateand so and the feedback was
you should try it againbut don't force them to go
this year.
You know because sometimes it'sjust like we try brussel
sprouts right.
Yeah.
Sometimes your first timeyou try them you're like
oh that's disgusting.
And then you'll try themlater on and your taste
(32:02):
buds change or someone made ita different way or whatever,
and all of a sudden they'rethe best you've ever had. Yeah.
So here we got brussel sproutsone like right.
So I kind of like the kidsto try their experiences
a few times to see.
Yeah.
And then also I'm like,I might just be neurotic
about this.
This is not really is thereno lesson to learn from here?
(32:22):
What for you.
I'm curious.
Like, why is that so importantfor them to give it a try
and maybe even more than once,with some time in between
at some point?
Yeah.
Why is that something that foryou is a high value, you change
your perspective to changeyour life change.
You've learned more alongthe way, and your experience
(32:43):
is not going to be necessarily.
It's like copy and paste.
You're creating a differentexperience.
Yeah. So, if you goback into the artist screen
and the pickles and like,drizzle or whatever.
Yeah, all the pickles, pickles.
And then there's some cheese on.
Okay.
(33:03):
So over on my dad's and thenit's on top, and then I wait
till it comes out beforeI sprinkle more on. Okay.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
So I don't need to useas much of it.
I don't use as much in it.
And that's really high fat.
And there's no nutritionalvalue in there.
Let's just call it what it is.
It's just amazing.
Oh.
(33:23):
So, yeah.
So I think, and you don'tever want a kid to have
such a negative experience ona life of that, right?
You want them to reference itand find the bullet
points of, hey, like thisworked out or whatever.
Yeah.
And sometimes it's just notfor them.
It's hard.
Again, it's hard because,you know, you compare your kids
(33:47):
so much.
The two girls like that wasso much. And it it helped,
you know, format them towho they are now like
and some of the things that theyvalue now in community service
and like all these thingsthat they teach and learn
to get along with everybody,and people would fly in from
other countries, so.
Oh, wow.
You know, like, yeah, there isjust cultures and just so much
(34:09):
experience.
They're learning fromthis one week.
That I would hate for himto miss out on it. Yeah.
Absolutely.
It's you know if he'snot learning anything from it
and I think that's a reallygreat point of being able.
Yes.
There's there's that value.
Right.
And that those are the thingsthat we you saw it sounds like
in your girls.
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And we're able to kind of saythey got so much out of that.
I would love for, you know,JJ to kind of get the
same amount at the same timebecause they're unique,
different individualsand humans, then he may
not get kind of the same.
From, you know, even though,like you said, same parents,
same activities, sameeverything.
(34:51):
But there's there'sstill different people are
likely going to get kind ofdifferent things out of it.
Exactly.
One thing after 1 or 2, is itbecause he has had that
experience and havingto be alone?
Yeah, he's not really alone.
So, you know, and who knows?
And I think that's that'sbrings me back to kind of
what you said at thebeginning where you're gonna,
in some way, shape or form,we're gonna screw our kids up.
(35:13):
Yeah, right.
And let's just.
Oh, man, I say it all the time.
And so it's just figuring outkind of, are you doing kind of
the best that you can dowith the information
that you have?
You know, if not like,it sounds like for you, if
it's information that maybeyou don't have, you're willing
to kind of go seek out,you know, other thoughts,
maybe other, you know, educationor whatever that looks like
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to be able to at least make aninformed decision.
And then at that point,I'm saying this is this is what
I've got.
Yeah, I think that's very truebecause I am able to do personal
training.
Like here's today's issue.
Yeah, this is my therapy,right? Yeah.
I like it's a mutuallybeneficial situation.
These clients are older.
They've gone through itlike something you're
doing here.
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Right.
Just sharing your experienceand then creating something
that you can learn fromand create the best version
of yourself for your kids,your family that you can create
while doing it.
Absolutely.
Okay, let me grab thetater tots.
I've been hanging out hereand then after, so I'm going to
put them on top.
And then what am I doing therein the oven?
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I don't know what I was I saythree 5450 something like that
forever. Okay.
A heated oven and a heated.
Well, we don't know if itneeds to be eaten.
At least, at least, at leastmake it a temp.
That's okay.
Let me, you is also letme go back here. Okay?
You guys, nine years ago.
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Okay.
And here we swap out the,these here has for, like,
cauliflower hot or sweet potato,two hearts.
Okay.
And then, maybe with alittle bit more nutritional
value.
That's always an option.
So you take your house, so maybefinding something that that fits
your palate.
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It's your kid's palate.
Exactly.
I mean, the goal, ofcourse, is to, I don't
even know if ancestry 50,but that is what I turned it
on, so. 350.
And how about how long I.
So it's like a golden brown.
Yeah.
Perfect, I like that.
That sounds okay.
I can do that.
So let's have this in here.
And in the meantime.
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In the meantime I did pre bake.
Went ahead of time.
Look at that.
You see you already know make itlook like that.
Yes. Perfect.
Good job.
Hey this is an expert.
And so you said after this,I'm drizzling on top.
Exactly.
I can do that.
And then, like you said, kind ofserving it with on top of,
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like a bit of something that hada little nutritional
value to it.
Yeah.
Because overall, when you'rejust doing a serving of it,
you can ground turkey,you're getting potatoes,
which had some, well, kind ofpotatoes.
Right.
You know, there are somepeople, some you can feel, some.
And then yes, I need some morenutritional value. Okay.
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Helps as well.
Yeah.
Like, let's be honest, even asnot nutritionally dense
and healthy as this, maybeit's still better than doing
the drive throughBig Mac, right?
Why am I think that's a greatpoint, right?
Because if there are ways thatwe can get creative because our
kiddos aren't, most kiddos,I should say, aren't like
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lining up the door to stuffthemselves with brussel sprouts
or cauliflower, you know?
And so we've got to berealistic about what
are the things that our kiddosare going to eat.
And so if the options are drivethrough, you know, McDonald's,
get yourself a real Big Mac or,you know, something
that's kind of healthyand healthy, at least
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we can control, like thesalt content.
You know, any of that?
Like you said, maybe you do likea little fat kind of an island.
And or you want it.
Yeah.
The tater tots.
I know you mentionedyou swapped out and, instead
of ground beef, you didground turkey to kind of
get a leaner meat in there.
As well as cutting downsome of the cheese,
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I totally did.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, because the thing is,to what you're feeding your kids
is not only whatthey're learning and they're
going to take on with them,there's also they're
growing. Right.
We need to create obesity issuch a problem.
The United States.
And the more I'm in thisindustry, the more I'm learning
not to judge.
But also it still shocks mehow many parents like our age
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who grew up off of soda.
Yeah, not new vegetables,not new fruit.
I just like, sometimes, like,what do you eat? Yeah.
And then that's what they knowand that's what they give
to the kids.
But luckily now we have so manyother sources out there
as far as entries and TikTok,which show you great healthy
recipes, on Instagram to help ustry and create a better version
(39:57):
of what we grew up with. Yeah.
And yeah, this food is what'sfueling them.
So it is fuel.
So more we could dobetter options.
There does.
Absolutely.
So I love that you sharethis recipe.
Thank you so much I am I knowmy kids are super excited to
try it.
I know Josh is really excited totry it so I'm sure it's going
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to be a hit.
So thank you so much forsharing this and as well
as sharing your story as far asnormalizing again, hopefully the
message is parenting isreally hard and that is normal
at every age.
And that you're not alone indoing this.
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And it can feel awful.
Awfully lonely sometimes.
And know that there areother parents.
It is not just all, you know,vacuuming in your pearls.
We are like, we're in itand struggling.
And just like, find your time.
Yeah, those people are with youthrough the struggles.
You rely on them or they relyon your own family.
(40:59):
Sometimes you just gotta findyour tribe.
They fit into you, and sometimesyou gotta try a couple different
ways, right?
Yeah.
And then we have less peoplesupport you.
It makes it less scary.
Yeah, absolutely.
All right.
Well, thank you so much.
And thanks for joining us.
If you or anyone that you knowis struggling with any of
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the topics that we discussed intoday's episode, make sure
to check out our show notesfor support and resources.
You can get help.
Thanks again for joining uson today's episode of The
Real Family Eat.
If you're a parent readyto share your real life
parenting story, make sure toreach out to us and our website
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found in the show notes.
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and resources.
All of that can be foundin our show notes,
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