December 10, 2024 • 48 mins
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In this episode, Rachel, mom of two, joins Reesa Morala, LMFT, to share her journey of navigating life as a single parent to a child diagnosed with Type I diabetes. Rachel discusses the fear and challenges that come with managing serious medical needs, including some scary close calls, and how she worked to establish a “new normal” for her family.
As they explore parenting insights, resources, and coping strategies, Rachel also shares her go-to Steak and Potatoes recipe—a classic dish that brings comfort and connection to the dinner table.
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Garlic Butter Steak Bites and Mash
Credit: @yummyRecipes
Ingredients:
For the Garlic Butter Steak Bites:
1 1/2 lbs sirloin steak, cut into bite-sized pieces
4 cloves garlic, minced
3 tbsps unsalted butter
1 tbsp olive oil
Salt and pepper to taste
Fresh parsley, chopped (for garnish)
Instructions:
1. In a large skillet, heat the olive oil over medium-high heat.
2. Season steak bites with salt and pepper.
3. Add the steak bites to the skillet in a single layer (you may need to cook them in batches to avoid overcrowding). Cook for about 2-3 minutes per side, or until browned and cooked to your desired level of doneness.
4. Remove the steak bites from the skillet and set aside.
5. In the same skillet, add the butter and minced garlic. Cook for about 1 minute, or until the garlic is fragrant and the butter is melted.
6. Return the steak bites to the skillet and toss to coat them in the garlic butter. Cook for an additional 1-2 minutes to heat through.
7. Garnish with chopped fresh parsley before serving.
8. Place a generous scoop of mashed potatoes on each plate. Top with the garlic butter steak bites.
9. Serve immediately and enjoy!
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If you or your loved one is struggling with any of the topics discussed, here are some resources:
CDC - 3 Ways to Help Manage Your Child's Type 1 Diabetes:
https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/caring/3-ways-help-manage-childs-type-1.html
Children with Diabetes: https://childrenwithdiabetes.com/
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Okay, you're ready to go home.
(00:01):
And I said, no, I'm not.
You can not send me homewith my child.
I am not equipped to takecare of her, and I'm going
to kill her.
Hey, everyone.
Thanks for joining me.
(00:21):
My name is Reesa and I'myour host.
We are talking to real familiesabout real stories.
Here on The Real FamilyEats, where we've got food
for thought and thoughtful food.
So let's eat.
(00:46):
All right, everyone, hey.
Today our guest is thelovely Rachel.
Rachel, thank you so muchfor being a guest on the show
with us today.
Thanks for having me.
Yes.
I am so excited to oneget to taste and cook your yummy
recipe, but also to heara little bit about your story
(01:08):
and some of the experience.
The real experience that you hadon the parenting side.
But first, for anybody who's notfamiliar with you like I am,
can you introduce yourselffor us?
Yes, I my name is Rachel. I'm.
I always forget how old I am.
To be honest, I think I'm 42.
I might be 43.
(01:28):
Who's counting?
Right? Like.
Oh, yeah.
I have two girls, 19.
She's 19, 19 and 15,I am divorced, I was, divorced
my husband in 2018.
And so it's been meand my girls, living the crazy
single mama hood.
(01:49):
Since then.
So I currently work at a placecalled Lake Forest Hearing
Professionals, and Ihave started going back
to school for medical billingand coding, and still trying to
figure out how to keep mymy little toes and hands
in what I did previously atmy old job with working
(02:10):
with kids and students.
So very cool.
And I know, I know that we kidsand students is how we met.
So I think you kind of get is inthat world for quite some time.
Yes. Okay.
So before we go into your storyand a little bit about your
(02:31):
journey, what recipeare you sharing with us today?
So we are a steak and potatoesfamily pretty much like.
And that is what we eat.
My youngest is a typeone diabetic, which is part of,
a huge part of our story now.
And so we try to do aton of protein, but she is
also my carb loader and can'tlive life without carbs.
(02:54):
And so we manage that with alittle bit of potatoes
on the side because sheloves potatoes.
So this is one of her favoriterecipes.
Wonderful.
So getting started.
And what are some of the stepsthat I'm going to be doing
here at first.
And then I can get cookingwhile we chat a little
bit about, as you mentioned,your story?
Yeah.
So just putting the steak in thepan and kind of, I don't even
(03:18):
know the right terminologyfor it is it's searing it up.
We cook it all.
We do.
Okay.
We've got it here.
I think we put a littlebit of there.
We put a little bit of that,and then we just make it.
Yes.
Am I putting oil in or butter?
We do oil, but you cando better.
Whatever I got, I got some,some nice avocado oil here.
(03:39):
That's that's fancy.
Well, I'm in California now.
You know, I actuallyhad to add up similarly.
Okay.
So I'll do this all year.
That and then, once I've got itall seared, is there
anything else that I needto worry about doing our.
That is like, kind of digup potatoes?
(04:00):
Are you doing, like,real potatoes are like
box potatoes?
Because we do box for sometimes.
So I, I've already boiled myreal potatoes.
You're so amazing.
No, I got the littlesteamer, guys.
I left the peels.
You know, they that'sthat's the real what I had
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time to do today.
Okay, so I'll do thatthen with my potatoes as well.
So that's what I'm what I here.
Yes. Cool.
Okay, so while I getthis started, I know
you mentioned, your kiddowho has the type one diabetes.
(04:43):
So when did that journey I mean,because that's that's unique
in itself and I imaginebrings a whole nother set
of challenges outside of justbeing a teen mom, which
in itself, I feel like I haveso many parents that they're
like, yes.
So we get divorced in 28, 2019.
(05:08):
It was official for her,and I got super, super sick
in 2020.
And it takes like, I have to bedying in order to miss work.
Like I don't miss work.
It's just what my grandmotherinstilled in me very young.
And, we were on the couch fora week. Solid.
(05:32):
She was at a school.
I didn't go to work.
We didn't get tested for Covid.
It was 20, 20.
No idea.
It could have been Covid.
Who knows?
I don't know, maybe it was abad flu, I don't know.
Anyways, so after that,she had started to lose a
ton of weight, but she wasbeing food like gravy.
(05:57):
I would make dinnerand she would have a full plate
and then an hour and ahalf later she's like,
I'm hungry.
And so we would get into a fightbecause I was like,
there's no way you're hungry.
You just eat an entire meal.
Yeah.
And she was hungry.
And then she would eat anotherentire meal and she would eat
and eat and eat.
And I was like, okay,this is so weird.
(06:18):
She would drink a ton of water,a ton, which I'm a
water drinker.
So I was like, yeah, girl.
Yeah.
So how can you say you're right?
You're doing amazing.
I'm so proud of you.
And then I'm with herall the time.
It was Covid, so we were homedoing school from online,
(06:38):
which is, let me tell you.
Oh, good golly, Miss Molly.
Anyways, so I didn't really knowwhat it.
Yeah, I know, so I didn'treally notice a ton.
But one day it was reallywarm outside and we were
going to my aunt's houseand she put on a pair of shorts
and this shirt, and I justlooked at her and was like,
(06:59):
something is not right.
And so I went to I lookedat my oldest and I said if we're
going to my aunt's house,we're going to my aunt lives.
I said, if there's anythingabout playa, I'm taking her
to the doctor tomorrow.
And so my we walk into my aunt'shouse, she pulls me aside
and she goes, what is wrongwith Kaia?
(07:20):
And I was like, going tothe doctor.
So then I called the next day.
They got her in that daybecause I had given her all the
symptoms.
We'd gone into her pediatricianand she did a test to find
ketones, and she said,I think she's got diabetes.
And I thought she had a calf,a place that when she was born,
(07:43):
which we were told could turninto a minute.
Wait.
So that's always in theback of my head.
So I was thinking, she's gotleukemia.
Like I already prepped myself.
Like I already had the journeyin my head.
I was like, this is whatwe're going to do.
It's going to be fine.
We're going to figure it out.
And she's like, so she'sgot diabetes.
I'm like, yeah, what year?
But I'm like, okay, Igot a plan.
(08:06):
It's gonna be fine.
I got a place.
It's going to be fine.
And then she's like, I think shehas diabetes.
And I'm like, what is that sick?
But I wasn't ready.
Oh.
So was it because I heard youmention, you know, when you
went over to your relative'shouse like, that was
kind of your your call sign?
Was that because you werelooking for kind of that
(08:27):
second opinion?
Someone else is also saying,like, if it doesn't mean do
I like something is different,but I can't put my finger on it.
But if you notice it right awayand that's obviously what it is.
Gotcha.
So I'm curious aside fromnot going what is it.
I have no idea what you'retalking about right now.
What else I mean as this as youas a doctor explain kind of as
(08:52):
this is unfolding, I'd loveto know kind of what was
going on for you as, asmom like, in your head.
I'd love to hear your thoughts.
So I am.
I'm not a panicker.
And don't panic.
I like to have a plan.
And so in my head, she's sayingall these things, and in my
(09:15):
head, I'm formulating a plan.
And I would repeat backto some of my thoughts
and things.
And the doctor looked at meand she said, I've known you
since she was born.
You are planning in your headright now.
And I said, yeah,of course I am.
And she goes, you have to stop.
(09:36):
And I said, why?
And she goes, because there isno plan for diabetes.
You have zero control.
So right now you are tryingto get control over something
that is going to makeyou insane.
So you have to understandright now, in this moment,
(09:56):
you do not have control overthis disease.
And I was like, oh.
I know you because we goway back the idea of not
having that control.
Like you said, you're a planner.
I mean that's got to be sucha wild shift.
(10:17):
And so part of me even just offputting off settling
in that sense it was I feltthis lump in my throat of like.
And I just knew that thatwas actually a legitimate
statement.
I don't know how I knew it.
I didn't know all the insand outs.
I mean, I knew whatdiabetes was, but I didn't know
(10:38):
the depth of what it is.
Okay.
And so they sent us to Lori'sChildren's Hospital that night.
We had to check her in.
She was at she wasn't super highin comparison to some people
that I have talked to.
She was at 900, a normalrange was 80 to 150.
(11:00):
So we were in we got admittedinto Lori's that night
and then it became very real.
That first night I just cried.
I did a lot of cry.
I'm going to cry now.
But that's that's right.
And I have so many parentsthat have said that
(11:20):
the same, same here, like,oh, I'm going to cry this.
I think we forget thatwe are humans.
We've got our own emotionsand we absolutely do cry
at the time.
Our kids are crying.
We're sitting there, right therewith the words, I don't know.
I'm crying.
You're crying?
Yes.
That is so incredibly real.
(11:40):
Yeah, yeah.
And then the next day camethe first 24 hours the nurses
took.
Not even the first 24,I want to say was maybe
the first eight hours.
The nurses total control.
And then they said, all right,let's go, let's go.
What?
We're going to train youhow to do this.
I'm like, I'm going to killmy child.
And they're like, no, you're notscared.
(12:01):
We're going to figure this out.
So they immediately startedshowing me injections and poking
her finger and reading,her glucose monitor and going
through all the things.
And we had a training that was afew hours long at the hospital
at two different times.
Her dad had to come down becausethere were two separate
households, and they wouldn'trelease her if he didn't
(12:22):
come down for training becauseshe slept at his house.
Sometimes.
So, we were both down theredoing all the training, and then
we stayed one more night and thenext morning and they're
like, okay, you're readyto go home.
And I said, no, I'm not.
You cannot send me homewith my child.
I am not equipped to takecare of her, and I'm going
(12:43):
to kill her.
And they're like, you are notgoing to kill her.
I said, yes, I am like,what if I don't wake up
in the middle of the night?
Like, what if she fallsso drastic and she doesn't
even know what it feels like?
And I'm sleeping, and Idon't wake up to my alarm
to check her fingerand the poker finger in
the middle.
And I did check her numbers,and she falls into a coma
(13:04):
and they're like, youare thinking, worst case
scenario?
I said, right, that's how mybrain goes.
I said, I can't, I can't,you cannot, you can't
give me her like you can'tlet me take my daughter home.
It's just you can't do it.
And they were like, you're goingto be fine.
You're going to figure it out.
It takes time.
It's trial and error.
And I was like, trial and erroris going to kill my child.
(13:26):
There is no trial and error.
Yeah.
And so, she said, like you said,with your own kids, like,
it's one thing when you'relike, at work and, you know,
you're learning a computerproblem and it's trial
and error, okay. It's it's we'llfigure it out.
But like you said thatthat's my kid.
(13:46):
Like, no, no, no, it's not ait's not a trial or I'm saying
compiler error.
And then we got home and thefirst probably I got in touch
with some people right away.
They partnered me with somegreat groups and support groups
I had put up posted on Facebook,and I had a girlfriend
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who also had a daughterwho is type one.
And so she put me inwith this moms group
immediately.
And the outreach was amazing.
I think it honestly gave mea little bit of hope
in the midst of all the crazyof trying to figure out all this
new ness and what can we eat,what we can't eat.
How much insulin do we give?
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When do we poker finger.
They introduced me to this thingcalled Dexcom, which is a,
glucose monitoringsystem that she wears on
her body.
At the time I called andour insurance didn't cover it.
And then I had been prayinglike, God, we need this,
I need I, I need this,I need this like, how is this
(14:51):
going to work?
And I have no idea how it works.
I am a strong faith believer.
I have a strong foundation inin my faith with God,
prayed, prayed, pride parade.
Prayed.
My team at work was praying.
My prayer partners wereout there praying.
All of a sudden the followingweek, it showed up on our
doorstep.
I completely paid for after myinsurance company kept
(15:16):
telling me that it wasn'tgoing to be covered.
Oh wow.
It was amazing.
Got her hooked up with Dexcom,but that week that we didn't
have it, I literallydid not sleep because I was so
afraid of her numbersnot being where they should be
in the middle of the night,and me doing something wrong,
(15:38):
that the anxiety from thatI didn't sleep at all.
And at that time I had my girlsall the time.
They didn't go with their dadbecause he just wasn't ready
to help care for herat that time.
And so my aunt would come overfor a couple hours
during the day just tolet me sleep, and then she would
(15:59):
have to go back to work,and I'd have to figure it out.
So how is your daughterat this point?
She was a it was three daysbefore her 12th birthday.
Oh, wow.
And what in the what a wayto have a 12th birthday man
begging the nursing staff.
She goes, If I'm still in herefor my birthday, you guys bring
(16:21):
me a cake.
And they were like, yes, itgoes, can I even eat cake?
And they were like, yes,you can have cake and we will
give you cake.
Yeah.
Oh my, I.
And so you went, you know,you're not like you.
So kind of 12 years out of theinfant stage and it sounds
(16:42):
like kind of right back in itto those sleepless nights of
just like, on edge.
Is my baby okay.
But still even now four yearsinto it I get, if I'm lucky,
three solid nights of sleepa week.
Wow.
Our numbers go off in the middleof the night, whether she's
(17:03):
dropping or whether she'scompletely out of range
and high, I have to go inand give her an injection
or I have to wake her upand give her juice or milk
or something to make hernumbers rise.
And it's a fight.
She doesn't realize it,but we will
fight at 2 (17:20):
00 in the morning.
She refuses to drink or eatanything, and I'm like,
you have to get up and drink.
The next morning comes along.
She has no idea.
She doesn't remember fightingwith me.
And so to me, it becomes hardbecause I'm fighting
with someone who doesn'tremember and I'm trying
(17:41):
to get angry at her, but I'malso tired.
From no sleep.
And it's just one ofthose certain girl things that
just keep, it's like a hamsterwheel.
And I have to learnkind of grace with her.
I'm so curious.
You mentioned kind of thatdifficulty, like you said,
(18:04):
to kind of wake up and have thisinteraction that hopefully,
you know, at this age, you know,you're hoping that they're
they're learning and thenwe're adapting and being able
to kind of move out ofthat fight.
And then like you say to them,you know, in the morning she go,
I don't even remember this.
So, you know, she isn'tnecessarily cognizant to be able
(18:24):
to kind of learn or to apply,you know, any skills.
In that sense, it sounds liketo be able to grasp
the importance of what you'retrying to do in that moment.
At 2 a.m.
in the morning, she doesn'tgrasp the concept of
it generally, her own.
I have multiple conversations.
(18:45):
She she has to want it.
And she's a teenager.
She doesn't want tobe different.
She didn't want thingson her body that makes her
different than someone else.
Which is why she won'tget a pump.
And everyone's like, well,you should make her get a pump.
I'm like, I can't make herget a pump on her body.
Like, yeah.
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Think about what you say beforeyou speak because that just
doesn't make sense.
Just like I can't everput anybody right.
Met a teenager.
Have you made a teenager doanything that they want to do
because it doesn't usuallyend well. Yeah.
And so her end is like,it's just going to you're going
to have to prep yourselfprobably for a hospital visit.
(19:28):
You're she's either going topass out or she's going to
go into DKA, where she's so highthat her body starts to
shut down like it's she's justa teenager.
And so the reality of it is, isthat's where I'm at.
I can't force her to take careof herself.
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I can show her.
I can tell herthe importance of it.
But do you tell any othernormal teenager the things
they should and should not do,and then watch them perform
all the things that theyshouldn't, should not do?
Yeah.
I mean, let me knowbecause I need to have
right things.
(20:09):
Has got to be a magic saucein there somewhere, right?
There's got to be something.
I mean, yeah.
Is that scary for youas a parent to kind of
in this moment, you know, you'reyou're hurt outside of your body
are making these choices thaton the, on the high level are
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developmentally appropriate.
You know, we can comprehendand go, yeah, it totally
makes sense.
You're at a point where you'relearning that autonomy and
and finding that independenceto be able to make your own
decisions at the same time,like you said, knowing that
this is the are very bigdecisions having to
do with health, which is isis a big thing.
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I mean, yeah, I'm so curiousas a, as a parent is that
is that scary?
Freaks me out.
But what am I going to do?
Yeah.
One of the things that I'velearned, and that's what
the doctor said stays with me,is that I'm trying to control
something that I have zerocontrol over.
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Yeah, and it's easy to say,very easy to say.
But when you're living somethingthat you have no control over,
I can give her applesauceone night when she is at 40,
which will bring her to,let's say, 80, which is a
normal range.
I can give her the sameapplesauce the next day at
(21:36):
the same point, and it willshoot her up to 200 points,
and then I have to giveher insulin to bring her
back down.
Wow.
You have zero control over itand it doesn't matter.
And so even the endo tells meyou can't control it.
So you need to stop because youare going to make
yourself crazy.
(22:00):
Wow.
And can you for for anybodywho's listening.
Because I think, I thinkmany would be in a similar
boat is you where like ona high level you've maybe
you've heard about diabetesand you have a general sense.
But what has beenyour experience of what
does that actually mean.
What does like a day to daylook like for you as a parent
(22:24):
of a child with type one,day to day or several injections
trying to get her to stayin range, we used to work.
We used to weigh her foodall the time.
And portion for our.
Yeah.
Because you have to knowhow many, sugar grams,
(22:44):
how many carbs are in eachserving that you give your child
because that's dependent onhow much insulin they get.
And so you're constantlyweighing and looking at
reading labels.
It's like having a childwith allergies.
You want to make sure you readthe labels really well.
It's teaching, a ton of math.
You have to know how many carbsyou're eating, and then
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you have to divide itby a specific number.
And that's going to give youthe amount of insulin that you
need to take.
Oh, wow.
And so it becomesvery much of a, a math game too.
And I hated math.
So when they're trying to tellme, like, this is going to be a
math game, I'm like, you don'tunderstand what the I hate math.
(23:26):
Yeah.
And they're like, you're goingto get really good at it.
And I'm like, that's not one ofmy goals in life.
So, you know, that'snot on my life plan, not on my
life plan, not on theone thing that Rachel wants
to learn.
I don't write, I'm not reallyinterested.
Wow.
And so when when those,like you said, those drops
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happen or the spikeshappen for you, kind of
what's the thought process,what's going on in your head
in those moments?
So again, I'm not a superpanicky person.
We were at she's up, she playsvolleyball for club, and this
was probably the one timewhere I panicked.
So she was up her Dexcomwas reading a one number,
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but she was starting to actsuper funny.
She was slurring her words.
She couldn't stand up straight.
She couldn't walk in astraight line.
That was like, thereis something wrong.
And I poked her finger.
She was at 26, which isextremely dangerously low.
(24:36):
We were walking up to theparking garage to get back
into the car and she couldn'twalk.
It was just me and her,one of her volleyball teammates,
by the grace of God, literallywas not far behind us.
But we didn't know that.
Okay, I kept making her sit upand I was like, Kaia,
look at me.
You cannot fall asleep.
(24:57):
You.
I need you to stay awake.
I need you to keeplooking at me.
I need you to keeptalking to me.
And she's like, I just wantto lay down.
I just want to go to sleep.
And I'm like, not an option.
We had exhausted all of oursugar and carbs, everything
she had already eaten, and thenher Dexcom was so far off
that I didn't think weneeded anything before we left
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the gym.
So wow, I didn't have anything.
I had nothing.
Her volleyball teammatewalked up, and I looked at her
as her mom and I said,I need you to sit with her,
and I need you to not let herfall asleep or lay down.
And she saw her finger poke,and it said, 26 and so
(25:42):
she's freaking.
And I'm like, no, no, no,no, no.
If anyone needs to freak,it's this one.
You get it?
Hold it together.
I just need you to staywith her.
So I ran to get the carpicked her up, and I don't
even remember how fastI was going, but I know
it wasn't the speed limit to thenearest Culver's and pound
to eat ice cream, andgave her pop, and she
(26:06):
didn't have to have any insulinbecause that's how low she was.
And typically with ice cream,she has to have insulin.
She's not a big pop drinker,but she has to have insulin.
It's primarily sugar.
And so she didn't have tohave any.
And in that moment I wouldthat was probably the scariest
moment.
Yeah, sure.
(26:26):
I knew my insides were inpanic mode, but I couldn't
do that because it wasn'tthe time for me to panic because
she needed help.
I had to get my stuff togetherbecause it's not about me.
I had to figure out and get herunder control.
And then after that, I cried.
(26:48):
Yes, I cried the whole ridehome.
Is that has that been difficultto kind of.
Because what I'm hearing you sayand let me know if I'm off base
is that it sounds like fairlyfrequently you are having to
to kind of hold whateverbig emotions are naturally
coming up for you as a parent,kind of watching your kiddo
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go through these things at such,you know, drastic swings
at some point to have tohold on to them while you
put the fires out.
It sounds like I think that'spretty normal.
And maybe that's just a couple.
(27:33):
Okay, so just be my normalsay that. Yeah.
Because I think for how I havealways imagined it as your kids
get to have big emotions,but you get to be that
calming sense and that calmingpresence that allows
them to process and havethose moments.
But if you're both having themat the same time, how is that
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helping either one of you?
Yeah.
And so I very much amlike, okay, let me figure
your emotions out.
Let's get you in a safe placeand then I'll have my moment.
But we can't have a momentat the same time because things
are going to fall apart.
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And in our and just and I mean,I would imagine that other
parents feel this way too,that being a single mom,
like there are some thingsthat I just don't get the
opportunity to fall apart.
Until it's my turn and notall the time is it my turn
right away.
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What I really like.
So it sounds like in thosethat you have been able
to kind of find that balanceand still allowing yourself,
it sounds like that permissionto have your own emotions. Yes.
We may have to like push a pausefor a moment, but then it
sounds like you've been ableto find a way to to give
yourself that permission,that it's okay to also have
your own emotions and whatand that stands out
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so much to me because Ifeel like I've talked to
so many parents where sometimesthey get that part,
or maybe they don't feelentitled to to have that part of
still having your emotionsand just quickly try to grab
that and go, no, it's not there.
Let me kind of brush it.
I don't have time for it,whatever that narrative
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is for them.
And so I'm so curious, like,what for you is kind of
maybe the moment.
Has it always been that waywhere you've been, you know,
good about allowing yourselfto have emotions and space
and time for those as well.
Or is that something you you hadto learn?
That is something I hadto learn.
I was a bottler.
I didn't have emotions.
Emotions are stupid.
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I am not dealing with them.
I am not processing them.
It's not happening.
We're going to put youin a little bottle and we're not
going to talk about it. Yeah.
I had at my old job, my oldcampus pastor, literally
for a year, worked on me about.
You need to talk aboutyour emotions.
We're going to talkabout things.
We're going to dive inand literally broke me.
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And I was like,I don't like this, but all I do
is cry.
Now, what?
Everything inside your, I criedall the time.
I cry all the time now.
It's awful.
But I think that's because it isa release.
Like it's now.
What I was going to say nowbecause it's a release.
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So now I just cry all the time.
It's amazing.
Everybody knows that.
Get Rachel going and she willcry.
Guaranteed.
Yeah.
And I know how normalizingthough, you know, to
maybe have that seen in youand maybe inspire others
that it's it's totally okay.
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It doesn't it's not areflection.
Having those emotions.
Nope.
Isn't a reflection on yourcharacter.
On on how you are as a parentor anything and said,
it sounds like it normalizesyou almost.
One of the things,that I remember someone had
said to me is thatyour daughter?
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See you strong all the time.
They think you can do anything,but you are human and
you have a limit.
If your children don't see youhaving limits and having moments
where you can't hold itall together, they're going
to have an unrealisticexpectation of where they need
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to achieve that.
They have to have itall together, that they can't
fall apart, that they don'thave permission to feel
the feels or feelall the things.
If you are constantlytrying to be Wonder Woman.
And so that stuck with me a lot.
Yeah, because I don't want themto ever feel like they have
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to live up to an expectationof having it all together
because it's unrealistic andit's not real.
And to have to hear that,I mean, that sounds incredibly
powerful to kind of be remindedand framing it in that way
that, you know, even if you'renot necessarily willing to give
yourself permission yet,you know, doing it from
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that motivation ofthis is really important
message for me to sendto my kiddos, and that it does
kind of start with that,that modeling piece and really
being able to to demonstrateto them, this is what
I want for you.
So, you know, gosh, how manyparents are we much
more motivated when it'sabout the results of our kids?
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Let me tell you right now,I'm like, I know I don't do it.
However, what I know is reallyhealthy is if you do it
like this, you're goingto love it so much better,
because I haven't mastered that.
But if I can tell youand teach you and show you,
you're going to be light yearsahead of me.
Yeah, and isn't that.
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I feel like what so many of usparents are striving for
are right for that growth,for them, for to raise
those good human beingsthat we can look at and go,
oh my gosh, the fact thatyou're able to do all these
things that I didn't have thecourage to do, that's I'm so in
awe of you.
Yeah, for sure, but it'snecessary.
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I absolutely right thatthat's just it.
It's not easy.
It's like it maybe looks like insome of the movies or on
some of those.
So it's not like real.
It's all of the star.
They, like have this.
They say it'll be fun.
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They said, oh, easy.
Going to be easy.
Really, really, really.
Yeah.
Let me have a conversation.
Yes, ma'am.
Yes, ma'am.
Terrorist.
And you know, they're allso prim and proper.
It's like, oh, thank you.
My kids are.
Yes.
Right away.
The dishes.
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You want me to get youroffering to.
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay.
You turn first, you turn.
And have you seen Moana?
Yes.
The thing in our house isdon't make me turn into the car.
I want to be to feed.
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I really want to be.
To feed.
Do not make me go to car.
Yeah.
Okay.
I've got my pan.
I've steered some.
I mean, am I putting my butter,my garlic, getting kind
of making, like, a little saucefor my do in here.
Yep. Yes. Cool.
Okay.
I can do that.
So I'm super curious.
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You know, it sounds like you,you've had a lot of
growing pains that you'vehad to kind of endure
and figure out.
And I know you mentioned some ofthose resources, that you found
that have been super helpful.
Are you able to sharea little bit more about
what are those resources?
Are they things that areavailable to you, other families
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that maybe we can kind ofclue them in, that maybe they
they're not aware of some ofthese resources. What what did
you find that works for you?
A mine are all primarily relatedto diabetes.
Just because that my worldthat I live in.
Yeah.
So there are a ton ofFacebook groups that I'm
a part of.
Wendy City parents.
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I'd have to look up the names.
But if anybody wants toknow them, you can always
give them my email addressand I can send that to them.
Some of them are local to whereI'm at. Okay.
I've read some booksand diabetes.
I've done a lot of lookinginto things, asking questions
that every endo appointmentthat we go to.
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I'm just a huge advocate for,and I'm a huge fighter.
I am not going to go downwithout a fight.
And so this is something I haveto learn.
And I'm going to figure it outbecause I'm not going to let
my child suffer because I'm notwilling to do the work.
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Wow.
And it's hard.
I'm not saying that.
It's I'm not sayingand don't hear what I'm
not saying, what I'm not saying,because that's what happens
in the world we live in.
We hear things that aren'tbeing said.
I'm not saying that every parentwho doesn't do those things
is not advocating fortheir child.
I just, you know, myself.
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Yeah, I am a go getter and anon stopper.
And so I'm constantly wantingto learn and do new things.
I'm a single mom.
I work 40 hours, sometimes morea week.
I also am in school full timeright now, so my plate's full.
Yeah, it's it's real.
(36:58):
I have a daughter who plays clubvolleyball.
My type one.
She's in volleyballall the time, constantly
at tournaments.
We're driving all over by wherewe live.
We go to tournaments inother states.
You master a schedule, youfigure it out with my
older daughter.
She's in college right now,so it's a little bit easier
because she's away at school.
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But trying to find that time tospend with her so she
doesn't feel so lostin the shuffle.
Because Kaia does require morefrom me than she does.
And that doesn't mean that Ilove her less, or that I love my
youngest more.
There is a requirement,to care for her just
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differently.
I don't love my childrendifferently, but I have to care
for them differentlybecause they're different.
And that's just a lot of it.
What has that been difficultto to balance that because like
you said it, it takes.
Yeah.
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It's awful.
There are work in progress.
It is right.
My oldest will be like, youdon't love me.
You love her more.
And I'm like, listen up, Linda.
That is not the truth.
That might be how you areperceiving it.
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But the reality is, is that sherequires her.
She doesn't have a pancreas.
I'm at.
I'm a pancreas now.
Like I should have a shirtthat says I'm a pancreas.
I don't get paid for that job.
But that's what I am right now.
Yeah.
So it's you just.
And it's educating herand having her understand.
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And yes, to her it feels likeI care more about my youngest.
It's not the reality,but the reality is she requires
more.
You have a body that functionsat total normal capacity
and can do all thenormal things.
Your sister does not have a bodythat can function normally,
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and so we have to helpher function to be quote unquote
whatever normal is.
Yeah.
And so that just requiresme giving her a little and that
I wouldn't even say moreattention.
It's making sure she's educatedand knowing what she needs
to do.
Absolutely.
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And you know that it's likeyou mentioned kind of this idea
that it it it we canprovide them all of these words
and try to again educate themthat I promise you,
I assure them I love youjust the same.
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And sometimes it does make itlike you said, they don't always
perceive it that way.
And we can't, no matter how muchwe want to kind of will them
to, to perceive it.
And so it is just kind ofcontinuing to show up
in the ways that we can'tcontrol what we have here.
Well, that's the themeof today's episode,
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Ciara Control, no control.
I'm telling you what I tell all.
Any new family is like,you have zero control over this.
Just let it go now.
And I was that's actuallyperfect because I was
going to say if you, you know,if we did channel, you know,
you had a Deloreanthat could take you back.
(40:34):
Is there anything thatnow, looking back, you would
tell yourself sooner or that youwould offer to any, any families
that are maybe experiencingsomething similar, just getting
their diagnosis that youwould offer?
It's it's going to be hard.
It's going to be rough,but you're going to
figure it out because you wantyour child to be successful
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and you want your child to bethe best version of themselves.
So as a parent, you're goingto do what needs to get done,
but it's not going to be easy.
Like I have never been onethat's going to tell you
everything's rainbowsand unicorns.
The waterfall.
That's so pretty.
Now it's going to be hard.
But the world that we livein, we're not meant to live
(41:19):
easy life.
It's not.
It's just not meant to bethe way that it is.
Things happen.
Our world is broken.
And.
So what are you goingto do with it?
Are you going to let it?
This is just me.
I don't say I know the worldis not great.
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But I don't sit in thenegativity of it.
I choose to look beyond and seewhat the good is and hold on
to that and cling on to thatwhile knowing my world
is probably falling apart.
But why is that importantto you?
Part of me?
Why is that important to youor need it for you?
Because it can put you downinto a deep, dark hole
(42:02):
really quick.
And I am a naturally joyfilled person and happy.
But just because I am joyfilled in happy doesn't mean
I don't experience sadness.
Anxiety.
Okay, inside out too, let's talkabout it like I'm joy.
Okay, I get it.
And I'm learning that sadnessis actually something that you
(42:22):
need in order to have joy.
Yeah.
So as much as joy I want tohave, I also know the reality of
the world is things are goingto go wrong.
And so what do you how are yougoing to figure it out?
My grandma raised me to,not be defined by your situation
and figure it out.
Pull up your bootstraps.
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We're going to figure this out.
You're not going to sit hereand you're not going
to play victim.
We're going to get upand we're going to figure it
out.
I had a tough love grandma.
We made it tough love, kid.
Yeah, well, what I'm hearingyou say is that it sounds like
you're finding your waythrough that balance.
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That balance of still givingyour emotions the time
and the space, acknowledgingthem.
Like you said, we're not justpretending.
You know, I'm putting themin that circle that they
draw around that.
That's right.
I know this is the only placethat you can have
where you stay.
Exactly.
You know, where we'reworking our we are balance
exactly.
At your time of workon me, right?
(43:27):
Yeah.
And then at the same time and soit sounds like you're also kind
of acknowledging that forthe things that you do have
a choice in and that you doget to say and like you said,
you're choosing to, okay,I may not know this, but I'm
going to go out and read a book.
I'm going to educate.
(43:47):
I'm going to find myselfthat support.
It's not easy, like you said,and maybe everything in
me is going, don't do this.
We can't learn this.
Like you said with the math,it doesn't seem to.
It literally tells you.
Yeah, and and to be ableto kind of say that might be,
you know, my anxiety speakingright now and anxiety,
(44:09):
I hear you.
I understand you're freaking outright now, but guess what?
Like we're going to figurethis out.
There is light.
Even though it looks likeit's super far away.
We can do this.
It does take it sounds likekind of that one foot in front
of the other kind of consciousdecision to and baby steps.
It doesn't have to beall it does.
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It has to be one step at a timeto get you to the next hour,
to get you to the next day,to get you to the next week.
It doesn't have to,and you don't have to have
a plan.
Figure it out for five yearsfrom now.
Let's work on tomorrow.
Yeah, I think that'sa great point that sometimes,
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you know, zooming in and kind ofjust looking at the right here,
right now, what can I impact?
Can be helpful.
And pretty soon, like you said,you've made it that week.
You've made it that monththat the years.
But it does kind of take thatjust like you said, that
that baby step of figuring outwhat is it that I can,
(45:10):
I can't control in thisparticular moment because
there's a whole lot elsethematic.
And so I can show that I can.
Yeah.
And I remember it's lookingback to say, what did you get
through?
Like, sometimes you have to lookin the rear of your mirror
and say, wow, look at allthat I got through when I didn't
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think I could.
And acknowledging that andknowing that and calling
that out and being proudof yourself for that.
Because sometimes you need toget it out.
You need to be in your headtelling yourself that you can do
those things.
And you did do those things.
So your own cheerleaderand having the self-compassion
(45:51):
to do so. I'm.
Yeah, that's awesome.
And all the while,like you said, we don't
get paid for this job.
No, this is free babies.
I know magnets for using.
Well, recently I, I believeI'm done with my mashed
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potatoes.
And I got my meat and my sauce.
I'm gonna put it together,mix it all loveliness.
And I thank you so much, notonly for teaching me this lovely
recipe that I'm superexcited to eat.
And I know that my kiddos,my kiddos also very much love.
I mean, you know, mymy husband's from the Midwest
(46:34):
too, so he's a meat and potatoeskind of potato kind of guy.
Yeah.
So this is this is rightup your alley.
And so I, I love that you werewilling to teach me this recipe.
I'm so grateful for you and toeven share your story in helping
that cause pulling backthat curtain, we're getting
rid of that.
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That perfect facade, as youmentioned, and really
showing that little one hereto fact no, it's perfect.
We have our work and it can beincredibly healing and
helpful when we show them to,all right, people are
gonna be like, this lady iscrazy, Risa.
(47:17):
They don't really know me.
So they think I'm not.
You know what?
Aren't we all a little bit,though?
I think we have her be I cuzwe have children.
True statement.
Well, thank you so much.
I so appreciate you.
And I'm sure I'll tap you for.
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I'm sure you've got many,many a stories that you could
you could share with us.
But in the meantime, thank youso much.
And thank you, everyone fortuning in.
We'll see you next time.
If you or anyone that you knowis struggling with any of
the topics that we discussed intoday's episode, make sure
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to check out our show notesfor support and resources.
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And I said, no, I'm not.
You can not send me homewith my child.
I am not equipped to takecare of her, and I'm going
to kill her.
Hey, everyone.
Thanks for joining me.
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My name is Reesa and I'myour host.
We are talking to real familiesabout real stories.
Here on The Real FamilyEats, where we've got food
for thought and thoughtful food.
So let's eat.
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All right, everyone, hey.
Today our guest is thelovely Rachel.
Rachel, thank you so muchfor being a guest on the show
with us today.
Thanks for having me.
Yes.
I am so excited to oneget to taste and cook your yummy
recipe, but also to heara little bit about your story
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and some of the experience.
The real experience that you hadon the parenting side.
But first, for anybody who's notfamiliar with you like I am,
can you introduce yourselffor us?
Yes, I my name is Rachel. I'm.
I always forget how old I am.
To be honest, I think I'm 42.
I might be 43.
(01:28):
Who's counting?
Right? Like.
Oh, yeah.
I have two girls, 19.
She's 19, 19 and 15,I am divorced, I was, divorced
my husband in 2018.
And so it's been meand my girls, living the crazy
single mama hood.
(01:49):
Since then.
So I currently work at a placecalled Lake Forest Hearing
Professionals, and Ihave started going back
to school for medical billingand coding, and still trying to
figure out how to keep mymy little toes and hands
in what I did previously atmy old job with working
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with kids and students.
So very cool.
And I know, I know that we kidsand students is how we met.
So I think you kind of get is inthat world for quite some time.
Yes. Okay.
So before we go into your storyand a little bit about your
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journey, what recipeare you sharing with us today?
So we are a steak and potatoesfamily pretty much like.
And that is what we eat.
My youngest is a typeone diabetic, which is part of,
a huge part of our story now.
And so we try to do aton of protein, but she is
also my carb loader and can'tlive life without carbs.
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And so we manage that with alittle bit of potatoes
on the side because sheloves potatoes.
So this is one of her favoriterecipes.
Wonderful.
So getting started.
And what are some of the stepsthat I'm going to be doing
here at first.
And then I can get cookingwhile we chat a little
bit about, as you mentioned,your story?
Yeah.
So just putting the steak in thepan and kind of, I don't even
(03:18):
know the right terminologyfor it is it's searing it up.
We cook it all.
We do.
Okay.
We've got it here.
I think we put a littlebit of there.
We put a little bit of that,and then we just make it.
Yes.
Am I putting oil in or butter?
We do oil, but you cando better.
Whatever I got, I got some,some nice avocado oil here.
(03:39):
That's that's fancy.
Well, I'm in California now.
You know, I actuallyhad to add up similarly.
Okay.
So I'll do this all year.
That and then, once I've got itall seared, is there
anything else that I needto worry about doing our.
That is like, kind of digup potatoes?
(04:00):
Are you doing, like,real potatoes are like
box potatoes?
Because we do box for sometimes.
So I, I've already boiled myreal potatoes.
You're so amazing.
No, I got the littlesteamer, guys.
I left the peels.
You know, they that'sthat's the real what I had
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time to do today.
Okay, so I'll do thatthen with my potatoes as well.
So that's what I'm what I here.
Yes. Cool.
Okay, so while I getthis started, I know
you mentioned, your kiddowho has the type one diabetes.
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So when did that journey I mean,because that's that's unique
in itself and I imaginebrings a whole nother set
of challenges outside of justbeing a teen mom, which
in itself, I feel like I haveso many parents that they're
like, yes.
So we get divorced in 28, 2019.
(05:08):
It was official for her,and I got super, super sick
in 2020.
And it takes like, I have to bedying in order to miss work.
Like I don't miss work.
It's just what my grandmotherinstilled in me very young.
And, we were on the couch fora week. Solid.
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She was at a school.
I didn't go to work.
We didn't get tested for Covid.
It was 20, 20.
No idea.
It could have been Covid.
Who knows?
I don't know, maybe it was abad flu, I don't know.
Anyways, so after that,she had started to lose a
ton of weight, but she wasbeing food like gravy.
(05:57):
I would make dinnerand she would have a full plate
and then an hour and ahalf later she's like,
I'm hungry.
And so we would get into a fightbecause I was like,
there's no way you're hungry.
You just eat an entire meal.
Yeah.
And she was hungry.
And then she would eat anotherentire meal and she would eat
and eat and eat.
And I was like, okay,this is so weird.
(06:18):
She would drink a ton of water,a ton, which I'm a
water drinker.
So I was like, yeah, girl.
Yeah.
So how can you say you're right?
You're doing amazing.
I'm so proud of you.
And then I'm with herall the time.
It was Covid, so we were homedoing school from online,
(06:38):
which is, let me tell you.
Oh, good golly, Miss Molly.
Anyways, so I didn't really knowwhat it.
Yeah, I know, so I didn'treally notice a ton.
But one day it was reallywarm outside and we were
going to my aunt's houseand she put on a pair of shorts
and this shirt, and I justlooked at her and was like,
(06:59):
something is not right.
And so I went to I lookedat my oldest and I said if we're
going to my aunt's house,we're going to my aunt lives.
I said, if there's anythingabout playa, I'm taking her
to the doctor tomorrow.
And so my we walk into my aunt'shouse, she pulls me aside
and she goes, what is wrongwith Kaia?
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And I was like, going tothe doctor.
So then I called the next day.
They got her in that daybecause I had given her all the
symptoms.
We'd gone into her pediatricianand she did a test to find
ketones, and she said,I think she's got diabetes.
And I thought she had a calf,a place that when she was born,
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which we were told could turninto a minute.
Wait.
So that's always in theback of my head.
So I was thinking, she's gotleukemia.
Like I already prepped myself.
Like I already had the journeyin my head.
I was like, this is whatwe're going to do.
It's going to be fine.
We're going to figure it out.
And she's like, so she'sgot diabetes.
I'm like, yeah, what year?
But I'm like, okay, Igot a plan.
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It's gonna be fine.
I got a place.
It's going to be fine.
And then she's like, I think shehas diabetes.
And I'm like, what is that sick?
But I wasn't ready.
Oh.
So was it because I heard youmention, you know, when you
went over to your relative'shouse like, that was
kind of your your call sign?
Was that because you werelooking for kind of that
(08:27):
second opinion?
Someone else is also saying,like, if it doesn't mean do
I like something is different,but I can't put my finger on it.
But if you notice it right awayand that's obviously what it is.
Gotcha.
So I'm curious aside fromnot going what is it.
I have no idea what you'retalking about right now.
What else I mean as this as youas a doctor explain kind of as
(08:52):
this is unfolding, I'd loveto know kind of what was
going on for you as, asmom like, in your head.
I'd love to hear your thoughts.
So I am.
I'm not a panicker.
And don't panic.
I like to have a plan.
And so in my head, she's sayingall these things, and in my
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head, I'm formulating a plan.
And I would repeat backto some of my thoughts
and things.
And the doctor looked at meand she said, I've known you
since she was born.
You are planning in your headright now.
And I said, yeah,of course I am.
And she goes, you have to stop.
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And I said, why?
And she goes, because there isno plan for diabetes.
You have zero control.
So right now you are tryingto get control over something
that is going to makeyou insane.
So you have to understandright now, in this moment,
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you do not have control overthis disease.
And I was like, oh.
I know you because we goway back the idea of not
having that control.
Like you said, you're a planner.
I mean that's got to be sucha wild shift.
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And so part of me even just offputting off settling
in that sense it was I feltthis lump in my throat of like.
And I just knew that thatwas actually a legitimate
statement.
I don't know how I knew it.
I didn't know all the insand outs.
I mean, I knew whatdiabetes was, but I didn't know
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the depth of what it is.
Okay.
And so they sent us to Lori'sChildren's Hospital that night.
We had to check her in.
She was at she wasn't super highin comparison to some people
that I have talked to.
She was at 900, a normalrange was 80 to 150.
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So we were in we got admittedinto Lori's that night
and then it became very real.
That first night I just cried.
I did a lot of cry.
I'm going to cry now.
But that's that's right.
And I have so many parentsthat have said that
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the same, same here, like,oh, I'm going to cry this.
I think we forget thatwe are humans.
We've got our own emotionsand we absolutely do cry
at the time.
Our kids are crying.
We're sitting there, right therewith the words, I don't know.
I'm crying.
You're crying?
Yes.
That is so incredibly real.
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Yeah, yeah.
And then the next day camethe first 24 hours the nurses
took.
Not even the first 24,I want to say was maybe
the first eight hours.
The nurses total control.
And then they said, all right,let's go, let's go.
What?
We're going to train youhow to do this.
I'm like, I'm going to killmy child.
And they're like, no, you're notscared.
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We're going to figure this out.
So they immediately startedshowing me injections and poking
her finger and reading,her glucose monitor and going
through all the things.
And we had a training that was afew hours long at the hospital
at two different times.
Her dad had to come down becausethere were two separate
households, and they wouldn'trelease her if he didn't
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come down for training becauseshe slept at his house.
Sometimes.
So, we were both down theredoing all the training, and then
we stayed one more night and thenext morning and they're
like, okay, you're readyto go home.
And I said, no, I'm not.
You cannot send me homewith my child.
I am not equipped to takecare of her, and I'm going
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to kill her.
And they're like, you are notgoing to kill her.
I said, yes, I am like,what if I don't wake up
in the middle of the night?
Like, what if she fallsso drastic and she doesn't
even know what it feels like?
And I'm sleeping, and Idon't wake up to my alarm
to check her fingerand the poker finger in
the middle.
And I did check her numbers,and she falls into a coma
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and they're like, youare thinking, worst case
scenario?
I said, right, that's how mybrain goes.
I said, I can't, I can't,you cannot, you can't
give me her like you can'tlet me take my daughter home.
It's just you can't do it.
And they were like, you're goingto be fine.
You're going to figure it out.
It takes time.
It's trial and error.
And I was like, trial and erroris going to kill my child.
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There is no trial and error.
Yeah.
And so, she said, like you said,with your own kids, like,
it's one thing when you'relike, at work and, you know,
you're learning a computerproblem and it's trial
and error, okay. It's it's we'llfigure it out.
But like you said thatthat's my kid.
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Like, no, no, no, it's not ait's not a trial or I'm saying
compiler error.
And then we got home and thefirst probably I got in touch
with some people right away.
They partnered me with somegreat groups and support groups
I had put up posted on Facebook,and I had a girlfriend
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who also had a daughterwho is type one.
And so she put me inwith this moms group
immediately.
And the outreach was amazing.
I think it honestly gave mea little bit of hope
in the midst of all the crazyof trying to figure out all this
new ness and what can we eat,what we can't eat.
How much insulin do we give?
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When do we poker finger.
They introduced me to this thingcalled Dexcom, which is a,
glucose monitoringsystem that she wears on
her body.
At the time I called andour insurance didn't cover it.
And then I had been prayinglike, God, we need this,
I need I, I need this,I need this like, how is this
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going to work?
And I have no idea how it works.
I am a strong faith believer.
I have a strong foundation inin my faith with God,
prayed, prayed, pride parade.
Prayed.
My team at work was praying.
My prayer partners wereout there praying.
All of a sudden the followingweek, it showed up on our
doorstep.
I completely paid for after myinsurance company kept
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telling me that it wasn'tgoing to be covered.
Oh wow.
It was amazing.
Got her hooked up with Dexcom,but that week that we didn't
have it, I literallydid not sleep because I was so
afraid of her numbersnot being where they should be
in the middle of the night,and me doing something wrong,
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that the anxiety from thatI didn't sleep at all.
And at that time I had my girlsall the time.
They didn't go with their dadbecause he just wasn't ready
to help care for herat that time.
And so my aunt would come overfor a couple hours
during the day just tolet me sleep, and then she would
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have to go back to work,and I'd have to figure it out.
So how is your daughterat this point?
She was a it was three daysbefore her 12th birthday.
Oh, wow.
And what in the what a wayto have a 12th birthday man
begging the nursing staff.
She goes, If I'm still in herefor my birthday, you guys bring
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me a cake.
And they were like, yes, itgoes, can I even eat cake?
And they were like, yes,you can have cake and we will
give you cake.
Yeah.
Oh my, I.
And so you went, you know,you're not like you.
So kind of 12 years out of theinfant stage and it sounds
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like kind of right back in itto those sleepless nights of
just like, on edge.
Is my baby okay.
But still even now four yearsinto it I get, if I'm lucky,
three solid nights of sleepa week.
Wow.
Our numbers go off in the middleof the night, whether she's
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dropping or whether she'scompletely out of range
and high, I have to go inand give her an injection
or I have to wake her upand give her juice or milk
or something to make hernumbers rise.
And it's a fight.
She doesn't realize it,but we will
fight at 2 (17:20):
00 in the morning.
She refuses to drink or eatanything, and I'm like,
you have to get up and drink.
The next morning comes along.
She has no idea.
She doesn't remember fightingwith me.
And so to me, it becomes hardbecause I'm fighting
with someone who doesn'tremember and I'm trying
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to get angry at her, but I'malso tired.
From no sleep.
And it's just one ofthose certain girl things that
just keep, it's like a hamsterwheel.
And I have to learnkind of grace with her.
I'm so curious.
You mentioned kind of thatdifficulty, like you said,
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to kind of wake up and have thisinteraction that hopefully,
you know, at this age, you know,you're hoping that they're
they're learning and thenwe're adapting and being able
to kind of move out ofthat fight.
And then like you say to them,you know, in the morning she go,
I don't even remember this.
So, you know, she isn'tnecessarily cognizant to be able
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to kind of learn or to apply,you know, any skills.
In that sense, it sounds liketo be able to grasp
the importance of what you'retrying to do in that moment.
At 2 a.m.
in the morning, she doesn'tgrasp the concept of
it generally, her own.
I have multiple conversations.
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She she has to want it.
And she's a teenager.
She doesn't want tobe different.
She didn't want thingson her body that makes her
different than someone else.
Which is why she won'tget a pump.
And everyone's like, well,you should make her get a pump.
I'm like, I can't make herget a pump on her body.
Like, yeah.
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Think about what you say beforeyou speak because that just
doesn't make sense.
Just like I can't everput anybody right.
Met a teenager.
Have you made a teenager doanything that they want to do
because it doesn't usuallyend well. Yeah.
And so her end is like,it's just going to you're going
to have to prep yourselfprobably for a hospital visit.
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You're she's either going topass out or she's going to
go into DKA, where she's so highthat her body starts to
shut down like it's she's justa teenager.
And so the reality of it is, isthat's where I'm at.
I can't force her to take careof herself.
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I can show her.
I can tell herthe importance of it.
But do you tell any othernormal teenager the things
they should and should not do,and then watch them perform
all the things that theyshouldn't, should not do?
Yeah.
I mean, let me knowbecause I need to have
right things.
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Has got to be a magic saucein there somewhere, right?
There's got to be something.
I mean, yeah.
Is that scary for youas a parent to kind of
in this moment, you know, you'reyou're hurt outside of your body
are making these choices thaton the, on the high level are
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developmentally appropriate.
You know, we can comprehendand go, yeah, it totally
makes sense.
You're at a point where you'relearning that autonomy and
and finding that independenceto be able to make your own
decisions at the same time,like you said, knowing that
this is the are very bigdecisions having to
do with health, which is isis a big thing.
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I mean, yeah, I'm so curiousas a, as a parent is that
is that scary?
Freaks me out.
But what am I going to do?
Yeah.
One of the things that I'velearned, and that's what
the doctor said stays with me,is that I'm trying to control
something that I have zerocontrol over.
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Yeah, and it's easy to say,very easy to say.
But when you're living somethingthat you have no control over,
I can give her applesauceone night when she is at 40,
which will bring her to,let's say, 80, which is a
normal range.
I can give her the sameapplesauce the next day at
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the same point, and it willshoot her up to 200 points,
and then I have to giveher insulin to bring her
back down.
Wow.
You have zero control over itand it doesn't matter.
And so even the endo tells meyou can't control it.
So you need to stop because youare going to make
yourself crazy.
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Wow.
And can you for for anybodywho's listening.
Because I think, I thinkmany would be in a similar
boat is you where like ona high level you've maybe
you've heard about diabetesand you have a general sense.
But what has beenyour experience of what
does that actually mean.
What does like a day to daylook like for you as a parent
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of a child with type one,day to day or several injections
trying to get her to stayin range, we used to work.
We used to weigh her foodall the time.
And portion for our.
Yeah.
Because you have to knowhow many, sugar grams,
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how many carbs are in eachserving that you give your child
because that's dependent onhow much insulin they get.
And so you're constantlyweighing and looking at
reading labels.
It's like having a childwith allergies.
You want to make sure you readthe labels really well.
It's teaching, a ton of math.
You have to know how many carbsyou're eating, and then
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you have to divide itby a specific number.
And that's going to give youthe amount of insulin that you
need to take.
Oh, wow.
And so it becomesvery much of a, a math game too.
And I hated math.
So when they're trying to tellme, like, this is going to be a
math game, I'm like, you don'tunderstand what the I hate math.
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Yeah.
And they're like, you're goingto get really good at it.
And I'm like, that's not one ofmy goals in life.
So, you know, that'snot on my life plan, not on my
life plan, not on theone thing that Rachel wants
to learn.
I don't write, I'm not reallyinterested.
Wow.
And so when when those,like you said, those drops
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happen or the spikeshappen for you, kind of
what's the thought process,what's going on in your head
in those moments?
So again, I'm not a superpanicky person.
We were at she's up, she playsvolleyball for club, and this
was probably the one timewhere I panicked.
So she was up her Dexcomwas reading a one number,
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but she was starting to actsuper funny.
She was slurring her words.
She couldn't stand up straight.
She couldn't walk in astraight line.
That was like, thereis something wrong.
And I poked her finger.
She was at 26, which isextremely dangerously low.
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We were walking up to theparking garage to get back
into the car and she couldn'twalk.
It was just me and her,one of her volleyball teammates,
by the grace of God, literallywas not far behind us.
But we didn't know that.
Okay, I kept making her sit upand I was like, Kaia,
look at me.
You cannot fall asleep.
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You.
I need you to stay awake.
I need you to keeplooking at me.
I need you to keeptalking to me.
And she's like, I just wantto lay down.
I just want to go to sleep.
And I'm like, not an option.
We had exhausted all of oursugar and carbs, everything
she had already eaten, and thenher Dexcom was so far off
that I didn't think weneeded anything before we left
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the gym.
So wow, I didn't have anything.
I had nothing.
Her volleyball teammatewalked up, and I looked at her
as her mom and I said,I need you to sit with her,
and I need you to not let herfall asleep or lay down.
And she saw her finger poke,and it said, 26 and so
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she's freaking.
And I'm like, no, no, no,no, no.
If anyone needs to freak,it's this one.
You get it?
Hold it together.
I just need you to staywith her.
So I ran to get the carpicked her up, and I don't
even remember how fastI was going, but I know
it wasn't the speed limit to thenearest Culver's and pound
to eat ice cream, andgave her pop, and she
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didn't have to have any insulinbecause that's how low she was.
And typically with ice cream,she has to have insulin.
She's not a big pop drinker,but she has to have insulin.
It's primarily sugar.
And so she didn't have tohave any.
And in that moment I wouldthat was probably the scariest
moment.
Yeah, sure.
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I knew my insides were inpanic mode, but I couldn't
do that because it wasn'tthe time for me to panic because
she needed help.
I had to get my stuff togetherbecause it's not about me.
I had to figure out and get herunder control.
And then after that, I cried.
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Yes, I cried the whole ridehome.
Is that has that been difficultto kind of.
Because what I'm hearing you sayand let me know if I'm off base
is that it sounds like fairlyfrequently you are having to
to kind of hold whateverbig emotions are naturally
coming up for you as a parent,kind of watching your kiddo
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go through these things at such,you know, drastic swings
at some point to have tohold on to them while you
put the fires out.
It sounds like I think that'spretty normal.
And maybe that's just a couple.
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Okay, so just be my normalsay that. Yeah.
Because I think for how I havealways imagined it as your kids
get to have big emotions,but you get to be that
calming sense and that calmingpresence that allows
them to process and havethose moments.
But if you're both having themat the same time, how is that
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helping either one of you?
Yeah.
And so I very much amlike, okay, let me figure
your emotions out.
Let's get you in a safe placeand then I'll have my moment.
But we can't have a momentat the same time because things
are going to fall apart.
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And in our and just and I mean,I would imagine that other
parents feel this way too,that being a single mom,
like there are some thingsthat I just don't get the
opportunity to fall apart.
Until it's my turn and notall the time is it my turn
right away.
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What I really like.
So it sounds like in thosethat you have been able
to kind of find that balanceand still allowing yourself,
it sounds like that permissionto have your own emotions. Yes.
We may have to like push a pausefor a moment, but then it
sounds like you've been ableto find a way to to give
yourself that permission,that it's okay to also have
your own emotions and whatand that stands out
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so much to me because Ifeel like I've talked to
so many parents where sometimesthey get that part,
or maybe they don't feelentitled to to have that part of
still having your emotionsand just quickly try to grab
that and go, no, it's not there.
Let me kind of brush it.
I don't have time for it,whatever that narrative
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is for them.
And so I'm so curious, like,what for you is kind of
maybe the moment.
Has it always been that waywhere you've been, you know,
good about allowing yourselfto have emotions and space
and time for those as well.
Or is that something you you hadto learn?
That is something I hadto learn.
I was a bottler.
I didn't have emotions.
Emotions are stupid.
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I am not dealing with them.
I am not processing them.
It's not happening.
We're going to put youin a little bottle and we're not
going to talk about it. Yeah.
I had at my old job, my oldcampus pastor, literally
for a year, worked on me about.
You need to talk aboutyour emotions.
We're going to talkabout things.
We're going to dive inand literally broke me.
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And I was like,I don't like this, but all I do
is cry.
Now, what?
Everything inside your, I criedall the time.
I cry all the time now.
It's awful.
But I think that's because it isa release.
Like it's now.
What I was going to say nowbecause it's a release.
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So now I just cry all the time.
It's amazing.
Everybody knows that.
Get Rachel going and she willcry.
Guaranteed.
Yeah.
And I know how normalizingthough, you know, to
maybe have that seen in youand maybe inspire others
that it's it's totally okay.
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It doesn't it's not areflection.
Having those emotions.
Nope.
Isn't a reflection on yourcharacter.
On on how you are as a parentor anything and said,
it sounds like it normalizesyou almost.
One of the things,that I remember someone had
said to me is thatyour daughter?
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See you strong all the time.
They think you can do anything,but you are human and
you have a limit.
If your children don't see youhaving limits and having moments
where you can't hold itall together, they're going
to have an unrealisticexpectation of where they need
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to achieve that.
They have to have itall together, that they can't
fall apart, that they don'thave permission to feel
the feels or feelall the things.
If you are constantlytrying to be Wonder Woman.
And so that stuck with me a lot.
Yeah, because I don't want themto ever feel like they have
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to live up to an expectationof having it all together
because it's unrealistic andit's not real.
And to have to hear that,I mean, that sounds incredibly
powerful to kind of be remindedand framing it in that way
that, you know, even if you'renot necessarily willing to give
yourself permission yet,you know, doing it from
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that motivation ofthis is really important
message for me to sendto my kiddos, and that it does
kind of start with that,that modeling piece and really
being able to to demonstrateto them, this is what
I want for you.
So, you know, gosh, how manyparents are we much
more motivated when it'sabout the results of our kids?
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Let me tell you right now,I'm like, I know I don't do it.
However, what I know is reallyhealthy is if you do it
like this, you're goingto love it so much better,
because I haven't mastered that.
But if I can tell youand teach you and show you,
you're going to be light yearsahead of me.
Yeah, and isn't that.
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I feel like what so many of usparents are striving for
are right for that growth,for them, for to raise
those good human beingsthat we can look at and go,
oh my gosh, the fact thatyou're able to do all these
things that I didn't have thecourage to do, that's I'm so in
awe of you.
Yeah, for sure, but it'snecessary.
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I absolutely right thatthat's just it.
It's not easy.
It's like it maybe looks like insome of the movies or on
some of those.
So it's not like real.
It's all of the star.
They, like have this.
They say it'll be fun.
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They said, oh, easy.
Going to be easy.
Really, really, really.
Yeah.
Let me have a conversation.
Yes, ma'am.
Yes, ma'am.
Terrorist.
And you know, they're allso prim and proper.
It's like, oh, thank you.
My kids are.
Yes.
Right away.
The dishes.
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You want me to get youroffering to.
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay.
You turn first, you turn.
And have you seen Moana?
Yes.
The thing in our house isdon't make me turn into the car.
I want to be to feed.
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I really want to be.
To feed.
Do not make me go to car.
Yeah.
Okay.
I've got my pan.
I've steered some.
I mean, am I putting my butter,my garlic, getting kind
of making, like, a little saucefor my do in here.
Yep. Yes. Cool.
Okay.
I can do that.
So I'm super curious.
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You know, it sounds like you,you've had a lot of
growing pains that you'vehad to kind of endure
and figure out.
And I know you mentioned some ofthose resources, that you found
that have been super helpful.
Are you able to sharea little bit more about
what are those resources?
Are they things that areavailable to you, other families
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that maybe we can kind ofclue them in, that maybe they
they're not aware of some ofthese resources. What what did
you find that works for you?
A mine are all primarily relatedto diabetes.
Just because that my worldthat I live in.
Yeah.
So there are a ton ofFacebook groups that I'm
a part of.
Wendy City parents.
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I'd have to look up the names.
But if anybody wants toknow them, you can always
give them my email addressand I can send that to them.
Some of them are local to whereI'm at. Okay.
I've read some booksand diabetes.
I've done a lot of lookinginto things, asking questions
that every endo appointmentthat we go to.
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I'm just a huge advocate for,and I'm a huge fighter.
I am not going to go downwithout a fight.
And so this is something I haveto learn.
And I'm going to figure it outbecause I'm not going to let
my child suffer because I'm notwilling to do the work.
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Wow.
And it's hard.
I'm not saying that.
It's I'm not sayingand don't hear what I'm
not saying, what I'm not saying,because that's what happens
in the world we live in.
We hear things that aren'tbeing said.
I'm not saying that every parentwho doesn't do those things
is not advocating fortheir child.
I just, you know, myself.
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Yeah, I am a go getter and anon stopper.
And so I'm constantly wantingto learn and do new things.
I'm a single mom.
I work 40 hours, sometimes morea week.
I also am in school full timeright now, so my plate's full.
Yeah, it's it's real.
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I have a daughter who plays clubvolleyball.
My type one.
She's in volleyballall the time, constantly
at tournaments.
We're driving all over by wherewe live.
We go to tournaments inother states.
You master a schedule, youfigure it out with my
older daughter.
She's in college right now,so it's a little bit easier
because she's away at school.
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But trying to find that time tospend with her so she
doesn't feel so lostin the shuffle.
Because Kaia does require morefrom me than she does.
And that doesn't mean that Ilove her less, or that I love my
youngest more.
There is a requirement,to care for her just
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differently.
I don't love my childrendifferently, but I have to care
for them differentlybecause they're different.
And that's just a lot of it.
What has that been difficultto to balance that because like
you said it, it takes.
Yeah.
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It's awful.
There are work in progress.
It is right.
My oldest will be like, youdon't love me.
You love her more.
And I'm like, listen up, Linda.
That is not the truth.
That might be how you areperceiving it.
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But the reality is, is that sherequires her.
She doesn't have a pancreas.
I'm at.
I'm a pancreas now.
Like I should have a shirtthat says I'm a pancreas.
I don't get paid for that job.
But that's what I am right now.
Yeah.
So it's you just.
And it's educating herand having her understand.
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And yes, to her it feels likeI care more about my youngest.
It's not the reality,but the reality is she requires
more.
You have a body that functionsat total normal capacity
and can do all thenormal things.
Your sister does not have a bodythat can function normally,
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and so we have to helpher function to be quote unquote
whatever normal is.
Yeah.
And so that just requiresme giving her a little and that
I wouldn't even say moreattention.
It's making sure she's educatedand knowing what she needs
to do.
Absolutely.
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And you know that it's likeyou mentioned kind of this idea
that it it it we canprovide them all of these words
and try to again educate themthat I promise you,
I assure them I love youjust the same.
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And sometimes it does make itlike you said, they don't always
perceive it that way.
And we can't, no matter how muchwe want to kind of will them
to, to perceive it.
And so it is just kind ofcontinuing to show up
in the ways that we can'tcontrol what we have here.
Well, that's the themeof today's episode,
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Ciara Control, no control.
I'm telling you what I tell all.
Any new family is like,you have zero control over this.
Just let it go now.
And I was that's actuallyperfect because I was
going to say if you, you know,if we did channel, you know,
you had a Deloreanthat could take you back.
(40:34):
Is there anything thatnow, looking back, you would
tell yourself sooner or that youwould offer to any, any families
that are maybe experiencingsomething similar, just getting
their diagnosis that youwould offer?
It's it's going to be hard.
It's going to be rough,but you're going to
figure it out because you wantyour child to be successful
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and you want your child to bethe best version of themselves.
So as a parent, you're goingto do what needs to get done,
but it's not going to be easy.
Like I have never been onethat's going to tell you
everything's rainbowsand unicorns.
The waterfall.
That's so pretty.
Now it's going to be hard.
But the world that we livein, we're not meant to live
(41:19):
easy life.
It's not.
It's just not meant to bethe way that it is.
Things happen.
Our world is broken.
And.
So what are you goingto do with it?
Are you going to let it?
This is just me.
I don't say I know the worldis not great.
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But I don't sit in thenegativity of it.
I choose to look beyond and seewhat the good is and hold on
to that and cling on to thatwhile knowing my world
is probably falling apart.
But why is that importantto you?
Part of me?
Why is that important to youor need it for you?
Because it can put you downinto a deep, dark hole
(42:02):
really quick.
And I am a naturally joyfilled person and happy.
But just because I am joyfilled in happy doesn't mean
I don't experience sadness.
Anxiety.
Okay, inside out too, let's talkabout it like I'm joy.
Okay, I get it.
And I'm learning that sadnessis actually something that you
(42:22):
need in order to have joy.
Yeah.
So as much as joy I want tohave, I also know the reality of
the world is things are goingto go wrong.
And so what do you how are yougoing to figure it out?
My grandma raised me to,not be defined by your situation
and figure it out.
Pull up your bootstraps.
(42:43):
We're going to figure this out.
You're not going to sit hereand you're not going
to play victim.
We're going to get upand we're going to figure it
out.
I had a tough love grandma.
We made it tough love, kid.
Yeah, well, what I'm hearingyou say is that it sounds like
you're finding your waythrough that balance.
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That balance of still givingyour emotions the time
and the space, acknowledgingthem.
Like you said, we're not justpretending.
You know, I'm putting themin that circle that they
draw around that.
That's right.
I know this is the only placethat you can have
where you stay.
Exactly.
You know, where we'reworking our we are balance
exactly.
At your time of workon me, right?
(43:27):
Yeah.
And then at the same time and soit sounds like you're also kind
of acknowledging that forthe things that you do have
a choice in and that you doget to say and like you said,
you're choosing to, okay,I may not know this, but I'm
going to go out and read a book.
I'm going to educate.
(43:47):
I'm going to find myselfthat support.
It's not easy, like you said,and maybe everything in
me is going, don't do this.
We can't learn this.
Like you said with the math,it doesn't seem to.
It literally tells you.
Yeah, and and to be ableto kind of say that might be,
you know, my anxiety speakingright now and anxiety,
(44:09):
I hear you.
I understand you're freaking outright now, but guess what?
Like we're going to figurethis out.
There is light.
Even though it looks likeit's super far away.
We can do this.
It does take it sounds likekind of that one foot in front
of the other kind of consciousdecision to and baby steps.
It doesn't have to beall it does.
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It has to be one step at a timeto get you to the next hour,
to get you to the next day,to get you to the next week.
It doesn't have to,and you don't have to have
a plan.
Figure it out for five yearsfrom now.
Let's work on tomorrow.
Yeah, I think that'sa great point that sometimes,
(44:49):
you know, zooming in and kind ofjust looking at the right here,
right now, what can I impact?
Can be helpful.
And pretty soon, like you said,you've made it that week.
You've made it that monththat the years.
But it does kind of take thatjust like you said, that
that baby step of figuring outwhat is it that I can,
(45:10):
I can't control in thisparticular moment because
there's a whole lot elsethematic.
And so I can show that I can.
Yeah.
And I remember it's lookingback to say, what did you get
through?
Like, sometimes you have to lookin the rear of your mirror
and say, wow, look at allthat I got through when I didn't
(45:31):
think I could.
And acknowledging that andknowing that and calling
that out and being proudof yourself for that.
Because sometimes you need toget it out.
You need to be in your headtelling yourself that you can do
those things.
And you did do those things.
So your own cheerleaderand having the self-compassion
(45:51):
to do so. I'm.
Yeah, that's awesome.
And all the while,like you said, we don't
get paid for this job.
No, this is free babies.
I know magnets for using.
Well, recently I, I believeI'm done with my mashed
(46:13):
potatoes.
And I got my meat and my sauce.
I'm gonna put it together,mix it all loveliness.
And I thank you so much, notonly for teaching me this lovely
recipe that I'm superexcited to eat.
And I know that my kiddos,my kiddos also very much love.
I mean, you know, mymy husband's from the Midwest
(46:34):
too, so he's a meat and potatoeskind of potato kind of guy.
Yeah.
So this is this is rightup your alley.
And so I, I love that you werewilling to teach me this recipe.
I'm so grateful for you and toeven share your story in helping
that cause pulling backthat curtain, we're getting
rid of that.
(46:55):
That perfect facade, as youmentioned, and really
showing that little one hereto fact no, it's perfect.
We have our work and it can beincredibly healing and
helpful when we show them to,all right, people are
gonna be like, this lady iscrazy, Risa.
(47:17):
They don't really know me.
So they think I'm not.
You know what?
Aren't we all a little bit,though?
I think we have her be I cuzwe have children.
True statement.
Well, thank you so much.
I so appreciate you.
And I'm sure I'll tap you for.
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I'm sure you've got many,many a stories that you could
you could share with us.
But in the meantime, thank youso much.
And thank you, everyone fortuning in.
We'll see you next time.
If you or anyone that you knowis struggling with any of
the topics that we discussed intoday's episode, make sure
(48:01):
to check out our show notesfor support and resources.
You can get help.
Thanks again for joiningus on today's episode of
The Real Family Eats.
If you're a parent readyto share your real life
parenting story, make sure toreach out to us and our website
found in the show notes.
And that goes for today'srecipe, social media support
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All of that can be foundin our show notes,
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